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ADJOURN THE MEETING. UM, DOES

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ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, OR JUST GO INTO IT? OKAY, MOVING, UH, MOVING ALONG. UM,

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TIME IS NOW 6:37, AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL, UH, WORKSHOP, CIP WORKSHOP OF AUGUST THE 13TH.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR KURETSKI? HERE.

VICE MAYOR CHOY? HERE.

COUNCILOR DELANEY? HERE.

COUNCILOR GUISINGER? HERE.

COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM? HERE.

TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW? HERE.

ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? NO, SIR.

OKAY. ONCE AGAIN,

[1. Town of Jupiter Fiscal Year 2027-2031 Community Investment Program Budget Workshop]

AS I TURN THIS OVER TO STAFF, EXCELLENT EFFORT. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.

TO GET TO THIS POINT, THIS YEAR'S, AS YOU'LL GET INTO, IS A BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ADVANCE AND PREPARE FOR THE POTENTIAL IMPACT FROM THE REFERENDUM ON PROPERTY TAXES.

AND AS WE GO, OUR OBJECTIVE WOULD BE TO TRY TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH BOTH WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET AND IN WHICH ONES ARE CATEGORIES FOR PAUSING UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE KNOW THE OUTCOME OF REFERENDUM. SO, WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF.

WE'RE GETTING THE POWERPOINT UP. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SCOTT REYNOLDS, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER. THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

THE PROGRAM GOES FROM FY27 TO 2031. WE'LL ALSO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE OPERATING BUDGET SINCE THE LAST THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT IT IN JUNE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF GO OUT OF ORDER THIS YEAR COMPARED TO WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.

NORMALLY WHAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IS THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PLAN FIRST. AND THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE, AS YOU JUST INDICATED, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AMENDMENT 3 PROJECTS, POSSIBLY PAUSING OR CONTINUING.

THAT WILL BE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE GENERAL FUND. IN FACT, IT WILL BE ALL FOCUSED ON THE GENERAL FUND, AD VALOREM FUNDING, AND THE EXERCISE THAT WE WENT THROUGH AS STAFF AND TO GAIN FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL. SO WITH THAT BEFORE YOU GO, I JUST WANT TO IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO FOCUS ON THE AGENDA AND, NUMBER ONE, TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION, UM, BUT THEN ALSO MY COLLEAGUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT IS OR ISN'T THE CASE, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WE'RE HERE TODAY BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE LATER THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT THEN WE'VE GOT A MORE THOROUGH PACKAGE COME TO US. BUT THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE FEEDBACK IN OUR, YOU KNOW, INITIAL GOAL, AND WE HAVE ALL THE FEEDBACK IN, THAT STAFF HAS DIRECTION BY WHICH TO UPDATE THE PACKAGE AND BRING IT BACK ON FIRST READING. UM, SO, UM, AS, AS WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, THERE ISN'T REALLY A SPOT.

SOMETIMES WE DO IT AS WE GO; SOMETIMES WE DO IT AT THE END TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PAUSING, BUT IT'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT PROJECTS. UM, SO I'M JUST KIND OF ASKING MY COLLEAGUES HERE, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHEN WE GET TO THE WATER FUND. THAT'S JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE THAT'S THEN THE FIRST ONE UP WHEN WE GET TO THE SPECIFIC FUNDS. UM, THE FIRST TWO, THE UTILITY ONES, WERE NOT SUBJECT TO THE PAUSE DISCUSSION, SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD VET OUT EVERYTHING ON THOSE PROJECTS, CORRECT, BEFORE WE MOVE ON? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT. AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE GENERAL FUND, WE CAN KIND OF, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HOLD UP UNTIL THE PAUSE CONVERSATION BUT THEN GO BACK TO THE TOTALITY OF THE LISTING AND MAKE SURE WE GET OUR COMMENTS OUT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. GO AHEAD.

SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO GET US ALIGNED ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED. OKAY. THE UPDATING OF THE OPERATING BUDGET, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD AN INCREASE OF $92,000 DUE TO THE AD VALOREM TAX. WE

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RECEIVED OUR TRIM NOTICE ON JULY 1ST. WE HAD OUR WORKSHOP BEFORE THAT. SO WE DID HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE AD VALOREM TAX COLLECTION. THERE WAS A DECREASE IN THE PROJECTED GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY.

THAT'S PRIMARILY TO MAKE UP FOR OTHER ITEMS THAT WE SAW INCREASES FOR. ONE OF THE ITEMS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN THE CRA IS THE PD DRONE SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAM. A PORTION OF IT IS IN THE CRA DISTRICT ITSELF.

THE REST WILL BE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. SO THAT WAS A LATE ADD FOR $226,000. SO THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL FEES THAT WERE NEEDED. OVER IN THE I.S. DEPARTMENT, IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING CONTRACT HELP WITH FRONT DESK ASSISTANCE.

AND THEN WE'VE HAD SALARY AND BENEFIT CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH US BRINGING ON FIREFIGHTERS.

BUT EVERY YEAR, THE BENEFIT ELECTIONS OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO AS WE DO THE BUDGETARY PROJECTIONS, WE'RE CONSTANTLY UPDATING THE SALARY AND BENEFITS. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME SALARY AND BENEFIT CHANGES TO THE TUNE OF $333,000. THE FIRE FUND, THERE WAS A REDUCTION OF JUST OVER $500,000, AND THAT WAS DUE TO THOSE BENEFIT SAVINGS.

WE'VE ADDED THOSE DOLLARS INTO THE OPERATIONAL CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM OF THE FIRE FUND TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT AND ALLOW FOR NEXT YEAR. IF WE NEED, IF WE NEED THOSE FUNDS, WE CAN UTILIZE THEM.

IN THE WATER FUND, THERE'S INCREASE FOR, FOR PROTECTION CHEMICAL COSTS.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT AS THE COUNCIL. AND ALSO THE STORMWATER FUND, THERE WAS NO INCREASE FROM THE LAST DISCUSSION.

SO JUST TO GIVE AN OVERALL SUMMARY OF THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PLAN, YOU CAN SEE 152 MILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, 34 MILLION DOLLARS IN 2027, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES THAT GO INTO FUNDING THE CIP PROJECT PROJECTS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING GOES ANYWHERE FROM THE GENERAL REVENUES, AD VALOREM DOLLARS, GRANT FUNDING, AND THEN OF COURSE THE UTILITY-RELATED FUNDING SOURCES WITHIN THE R&R FUNDS. THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE OF $26 MILLION WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE FY26 ADOPTED CIP.

THE INCREASE IS PRIMARILY DUE TO $42 MILLION IN NEW WATER PROJECTS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE WATER PROJECTS AND THE INCREASES THERE. IN FACT, WHEN WE HAD OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AMENDMENT 3, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE INCREASES THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN PROJECT, SPECIFICALLY UTILITY-RELATED PROJECTS AND THE COST INCREASES WE'VE BEEN SEEING THERE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

SO A QUICK HIGHLIGHT, WE'VE ALL SEEN THIS OR WE'VE BEEN NOTICED ON IT. WE RECEIVED SOME FUNDING THROUGH THEIR LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION PROCESS. WE RECEIVED $50,000 IN THE HIGH-SPEED RAIL FENCING.

THAT'S ACTUALLY AN OPERATING ITEM, MATCHING FUNDS FOR THAT. THE TONEY PENNA AND CENTRAL BOULEVARD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, YOU ALL SAW THAT THE OTHER NIGHT AS THE TOWN COUNCIL. YOU ALL HAVE ACTUALLY APPROVED SOME FUNDING TO PROCEED FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT. THE A1A BEACHFRONT DRAINAGE, WE RECEIVED $100,000 THIS UPCOMING YEAR. THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN A CIP PROJECT. IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU'VE SEEN WHERE THE DRAINS DON'T ACTUALLY DRAIN THAT WELL. SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD IT IN OUR CIP TO FIX THOSE DRAININGS ALONG WITH WASH STATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THEM ALREADY IN THIS PAST YEAR. THERE'S THREE OTHER STORMWATER TYPE LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE ONE FOR $169,000 AT ALMA'S PLACE.

ALSO ALTERNATE A1A AND SAWFISH BAY OUTFALL. THERE'S A DRAINAGE BASIN THERE THAT'S, UH, WE RECEIVED $125,000 FOR.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT'S IN THE FDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY, UH, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PARTNERING ON TO, TO, UH, FIX. AND THEN THE SEMINOLE BASIN, UH, WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS OF $241,000. SO, PRETTY SUCCESSFUL YEAR, UH, REQUESTING FUNDS AND RECEIVING FUNDS. UH, THANK YOU TO OUR, OUR LOBBYISTS. THAT HAS DEFINITELY HELPED US OUT WITH THAT PROJECT PROCESS, AND ALSO OUR LEGISLATIVE OFFICIALS THAT MADE THAT POSSIBLE.

SO THE WATER FUND ITSELF, YOU CAN SEE A TOTAL OF 93 MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW.

THERE ARE SOME NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING ADDED FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

THERE'S THE TOTAL OF $93 MILLION WITH FUNDS COMING FROM WATER R&R FUNDS, OFF-SITE FEES, AND FEMA GRANT FUNDS.

WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF FOUR NEW PROJECTS BEING PROPOSED. I'LL

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GO OVER THEM IN A MOMENT.

MAJOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT HAVE COME INTO THE FIVE-YEAR FUNDING WINDOW. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE REAL QUICK.

THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN PART OF THE WATER MASTER PLAN FOR SOME TIME. THEY'RE JUST NOW COMING INTO THE FUNDING WINDOW. UH, THE PLAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WE WOULD FUND THESE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH OUR CASH, AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING IS IN 2022, I'M SORRY, 2032, THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO OUT AND BORROW SOME MONEY TO MAKE THE REST OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT WILL BE A 2032 EVENT, BUT THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ANTICIPATED WITHIN THE MASTER PLAN, AND NOW YOU'RE JUST STARTING TO SEE THOSE ELEMENTS COME INTO THE FIVE-YEAR FUNDING WINDOW.

THE BIG THING IS...

YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU START COMPARING THE FY26 CIP TO THE FY27. WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAD COST INCREASE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT BACK AT THE AMENDMENT 3 DISCUSSION, UP TO A 30% INCREASE ACROSS A NUMBER OF CIP PROJECTS BASED ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS, LABOR COSTS, MATERIAL COSTS, AND SOME ACTUAL PROJECTS EVEN MORE THAN THAT.

BUT THE FOUR PROJECTS I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE NEW THIS YEAR IS THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER WELLS RO-17, 18, AND 19. THAT'S A TOTAL OF $8.6 MILLION. AND THE JUPITER-TEQUESTA INTERCONNECT IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S $142,000 AT FY27. THE RO CAUSTIC TANK REPLACEMENT. THAT'S $453,000. I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT TANK. WE'VE HAD A POLY, I'M SORRY, THERE'S LIKE A PLASTIC TANK THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME ACCIDENTS OUT AT THE LOCATION. SO WE'RE CHANGING OUT THE STYLE OF THE TANK TO MAKE THEM MORE HARDY. SO $453,000 THERE. AND THEN THE UTILITY FIELD OPERATIONS WAREHOUSE EXPANSION. THAT'S BEEN A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR SOME TIME COMING INTO THE FUNDING WINDOW FOR $1.4 MILLION. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR NEW PROJECTS FOR THE WATER FUND. WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YEAH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION, DIRECTOR REYNOLDS. SO THIS ADDITIONAL FOR WHAT LOOKS LIKE 2031, $600,000, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE $42 MILLION? WHICH ONE? WE SHOWED 2031, WE SHOWED THAT THE COMBINED...

NO, IT'S WITHIN THE TOTAL OF THE 42 MILLION.

WITHIN THE 42? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO VERIFY. THANK YOU. JUST A FEW ITEMS. I'LL MAKE IT QUICK BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN MY COMMENTS IN TO STAFF. AND JUST A FEW POINTS I WANT TO BRING UP.

NUMBER ONE, THE 30% INCREASE IN RISING CONSTRUCTION COST IS ALARMING.

I KNOW TO EVERYBODY. I KNOW IT AFFECTED AT LEAST 15 PROJECTS.

AND IT'S NOT WORTH DEBATING ABOUT IT, WHETHER IT'S A SHORT-TERM ANOMALY. I CAN HYPOTHESIZE IT COULD HAVE BEEN TARIFF-RELATED.

TIME WILL TELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO ASK THE QUESTION, IF COSTS WENT UP 30 PERCENT, WHO'S REAPING THE EXCESSIVE PROFITS? BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS.

THE MARKET USUALLY ADJUSTS ITSELF, SO I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE IT AND EXPECT AN ADJUSTMENT HERE. I JUST WANT TO STAY FOR THE RECORD, SAY FOR THE RECORD THEN, I WOULD EXPECT THAT STAFF WOULD BE, AS WE GO FORTH THIS YEAR, WE MAY ACCEPT THE BUDGET BEING ADJUSTED, BUT TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO DIFFERENTLY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING COMPETITIVE PRICING SO THAT WE'RE NOT INCURRING THE 30 PERCENT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR INCREASE. I KNOW IT HAPPENED, BUT THERE WAS SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKETPLACE DUE TO TARIFFS AND GETTING EQUIPMENT AND WHATEVER THAT PEOPLE WERE RESPONDING WITH HIGHER PRICES, BUT THAT CAN'T BE SUSTAINED AS THINGS SETTLE OUT.

WE'RE NOT SEEING IT ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE.

WE'RE NOT SEEING THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS GO UP 30%. SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO HAVE SAID THAT. SO MY ASK IS THAT IN LEAVING IT IN THERE, THAT THERE'S INITIATIVE DONE TO TRY TO SEE EXTRA BEYOND NORMAL PRACTICES DOING SOMETHING TO MITIGATE THAT SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO THAT WAS ONE ITEM TO GET.

AND THEN THE...

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I HAD ASKED A QUESTION, AND YOU CAN GET BACK WITH ME ON PROJECT W1602, WHICH REEMERGED AS A LEGACY PROJECT.

THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE ON WHAT THE AVAILABLE BALANCE WAS.

LAST TIME IT WAS $2.12 MILLION, AND NOW IT'S SHOWING $867,000.

SO MAYBE SOME FUNDS WERE SWEPT, BUT COULD MR. REYNOLDS, YOU FOLLOW UP ON THAT? THAT'S IN THE EMAIL I SENT YOU.

THE FIELD OPERATIONS WAREHOUSE, FIRST OF ALL, ONES THAT ARE OUT INTO YEAR FIVE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CONSENSUS ALWAYS ON THE FIFTH YEAR OUT BECAUSE IT'S STILL TIME BEFORE WE GET TO IT.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO ASK, SO THE UTILITY IS CURRENTLY DOING A MASTER PLAN UPDATE, RIGHT? THAT COMES TO US, IS THAT GOING TO BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR? WE'RE DOING AN ANALYSIS UPDATE, YES. OKAY. WE DO THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER. SO THE LAST TIME WE HAD DONE IT WAS IN 22.

SO THEREIN, EVERY TIME WE DO AN UPDATE OF THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, IT BRINGS BETTER CERTAINTY WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING IS 10 YEARS OUT FROM THE LAST UPDATE, IT'LL BE FIVE YEARS OUT, IT'LL BE MORE CERTAIN. OKAY, SO THAT'S BEING WORKED ON.

THE, ON THE FIELD, UTILITY FIELD OPERATIONS WAREHOUSE EXPANSION, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO DEBATE IT OR CHANGE WHAT'S IN HERE, BUT WE JUST DID ACQUIRE A VERY SIGNIFICANT LARGE ASSET ON JUPITER PARK DRIVE. AND I'VE ASKED, AND I WOULD EXPECT WE ALL HAD THIS, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE AT THE VERY MINIMUM, A BUILDING SPACE UTILIZATION STUDY IS HAPPENING.

SO THAT WE COME ABOARD WITH UNDERSTANDING, LIKE, COULD THIS SPACE, WOULD THIS SPACE BE A GOOD FIT FOR, IF THERE WAS UNALLOCATED, UNACCOUNTABLE EMPTY SPACE IN THE BUILDING, COULD IT BE SUITABLE AND BENEFICIALLY USED BY THE FIELD OPERATIONS WAREHOUSE? NO, THE ANSWER MAY BE NO, BUT I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR. SO I WAS JUST EXPECTING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SPACE UTILIZATION STUDY DONE, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THAT'S JUST AN ASK, AND THEN OUT OF THAT WILL FALL WHAT GOES IN THERE, BUT THAT'S A TREMENDOUS ASSET.

WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THAT? UH, NO COMMENT, MAYOR. OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA YOU'RE WORKING ON SOME KIND OF SPACE OUT, YOU KNOW. WE, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAPPING THAT OUT. OKAY, THEN IT'S PREMATURE TO COMMENT ON IT, BUT, UM, JUST SEEMED LIKE AN AWFUL BIG SPACE. SO, UM, OKAY. UM, I GUESS THAT'S IT ON THE WATER PROJECTS, PENDING BY THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE WATER PROJECT? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SCOTT. UH, YOU SAID, UH, OUT IN '32 WE NEED TO BORROW MONEY. THAT IS IN THE PLAN? UH, WE WILL REEVALUATE, JUST AS THE MAYOR JUST INDICATED. THAT'S A NUMBER OF YEARS OUT, UH, BUT, UH, IN THE PLAN IT'S IT'S ALWAYS...

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CASH FLOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ANTICIPATED THAT THERE WILL BE SOME BORROWING THAT WOULD OCCUR IN THAT YEAR FOR THOSE PLANT UPGRADES.

BUT WE WILL REEVALUATE AS WE GO THROUGH AND SEE OUR CASH POSITION. SO MAJOR PLANT UPGRADES? YES. OKAY. YEP. THE DEEP INJECTION WELL FULLY FUNDED? YES. THAT'S NOT EVEN ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? YEP. THAT'S PAID FOR.

OKAY. IS THAT FULLY OPERATIONAL YET? THEY'RE NOT THERE YET, ARE THEY? CAN I LET AMANDA SPEAK TO THAT? YOU CAN JUST SAY YES OR NO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP FOR IT. OKAY.

OKAY, OKAY. THANKS.

I KNOW TARIFFS, MAYOR, STILL ARE AN ISSUE IN PROCURING AND USING A LOT OF MAJOR CORPORATE FRIENDS IN THAT BUSINESS, AND IT'S STILL CONFUSION AND, YOU KNOW, CAN'T BUY HERE BUT NOT OVER HERE, SORT OF. SO IT'S SHAKEN UP, BUT IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF TIME.

SO THAT'S IT. THANKS.

OKAY. I'LL JUST SAY I...

CONTINUE TO ALWAYS LOOK AT THE WATER MASTER PLAN THAT WE DO HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND WE DO EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE UPDATING IT AGAIN. BUT IT ALSO HAD A KIND OF CIP. IT HAD A FACILITIES PLAN, AND THIS TRACKS VERY CLOSELY WITH THAT. YOU CAN ALMOST COMPARE THE TWO. SO SOMETIMES EVEN UNLIKE OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR PROJECTS,

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THESE ARE PLANNED LONG IN ADVANCE, AND WE SEE THESE MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE COST INCREASES OVER TIME. YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS PLANNED LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE COMPARED TO THIS YEAR.

AND IN THE WATER MASTER PLAN.

SO WE DO SEE THOSE. WE SEE CHANGES IN HOW WE DID THE METER REPLACEMENTS. THOSE USED TO BE EQUALLY SPREAD OVER EACH YEAR. NOW THEY'RE ALL UP FRONT, WHICH WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. SO THERE AREN'T MANY SURPRISES HERE BECAUSE THERE NEVER ARE. IT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF THE WATER UTILITY. WE ALWAYS KNOW WELL IN ADVANCE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO.

IT'S HEAVILY REGULATED. WE HAVE TO UPDATE PLANS WHENEVER SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT UPDATES A PLAN. SO I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON IT. THEY DO A LOT OF VERY HARD WORK OUT OF THE UTILITY TRACKING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S OCCURRING. I MEAN, AS YOU JUST INDICATED, THERE ARE SOME REGULATORY THINGS THAT OCCUR, SPECIFICALLY AT THE PLANT AS YOU START REACHING CAPACITY WITH THE PERMIT THAT'S OPERATED AT THE PLANT. THEY HAVE TO BE UNDER CERTAIN PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE DEMANDS. THAT'S RIGHT. REGULATED BY FDEP. SO THAT'S ALL LAID OUT IN THE PLAN, JUST LIKE YOU SAID. AND YOU CAN SEE THESE THINGS COME TO FRUITION AS THEY COME WITHIN THE WINDOW. I THINK PERHAPS THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE IS THIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WE'RE HAVING IN 2031. I'VE KNOWN ABOUT THAT SINCE LONG BEFORE I JOINED COUNCIL. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED FOR AND MONEY HAS BEEN SAVED OVER MANY, MANY YEARS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT WE WOULD HAVE TO BORROW, KNOWING WE'D HAVE TO DO BOTH.

WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. TO PROTECT OUR WATER UTILITY AND PROVIDE A GOOD BALANCE FOR RATEPAYERS.

SO THANK YOU. I'D BE CAREFUL IN EXPECTING THAT MONEY'S BEEN SAVED. I SAY THAT IN FAIRNESS BECAUSE THE PHILOSOPHY HAD BEEN RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT WAS GOING TO BE COLLECTED FOR 50%, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO BORROW THE EXTRA.

SO WE HAVE BEEN BORROWING, SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN SAVING.

SO AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, WE GET TO THE POINT WE HAVE TO BORROW. THERE'S ASSUMED ALL THE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUNDING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SO THE SIMPLISTIC APPROACH WAS 50%. WHAT YOU'LL SEE, NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE RATE STUDY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PROVIDING IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ASKING OURSELVES, YOU LOOK AROUND AT THE OTHER UTILITIES, WHAT IS THE RIGHT LEVEL? LIKE WE TALK ABOUT EVERY YEAR IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHAT IS THE RIGHT LEVEL OF RESERVES? WHAT IS THE RIGHT LEVEL OF R&R FUNDING FOR A UTILITY? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING OURSELVES AND WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT, TO YOUR POINT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH CASH GOING FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO FUND ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. I'M GOING TO PAT OURSELVES AND THE CONSULTANTS ON THE BACK. WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB PLANNING FOR THAT AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE PROJECTS. EVEN IN LIGHT OF THESE INCREASES THAT WE'VE SEEN. AND WE STRIVE TO STAY VERY COMPETITIVE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PRICES THAT WE'RE RECEIVING ARE COMPETITIVE.

BUT AS YOU'VE INDICATED, AND YOU'VE SEEN, THE MARKET IS DRIVING THOSE 30%, 40% INCREASES FOR THESE PROJECTS. AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT, BUT YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT WHEN WE START COMING BACK.

WITH THE RATE ANALYSIS. WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL. AND THE GAP HAS ALWAYS BEEN, I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M SHARING THIS. TAKE THE DEEP WELL INJECTION SYSTEM.

WHAT WAS BEING RENEWED THERE? NOTHING.

SO IN CONCEPT, A RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT WAS TO FUND PLANNED REPLACEMENT OF STUFF THAT HAD TO BE RENEWED. THAT WAS A NEW PROJECT.

DIDN'T FUND A NEW PROJECT. WE USE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUNDS, DID WE NOT? YES. NO BETTER EXAMPLE THAN THAT. THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION NOW BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO I MEAN, THAT REQUIRED REGULATORY CHANGES AND SUCH.

YEAH, BLOCKS AHEAD. YEAH, BUT IN ANY EVENT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN THE MASTER PLAN GIVES US KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL, BUT THERE'S A HECK OF A LOT THAT HAPPENS IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT COULDN'T ADDRESS AND DOESN'T ADDRESS, NEVER HAS.

GO AHEAD.

I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THE WATER. ALL RIGHT.

UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL GO ON.

THE STORMWATER FUND IS RIGHT NOW SHOWING $13.9 MILLION.

$1.3 MILLION IS BEING PROPOSED IN FY27.

OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IS THE $13.9 MILLION. THERE'S FOUR NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE FIVE-YEAR FUNDING WINDOW. A NUMBER OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE TIED

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TO THE COUNTY'S PROJECT ON CENTER STREET, TRYING TO ALLEVIATE FLOODING OVER THERE. I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THAT THAT'S OCCURRING OVER THERE. SO THIS IS DOVETAILING INTO THE COUNTY'S PROJECT.

FIVE PROJECTS ARE TIED TO THE TOWN'S VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND HAVE GRANT FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

ON THE NEXT PAGE, ACTUALLY, I REFER TO THE NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. THE DOVER DITCH IMPROVEMENT PHASE TWO PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE THERE AT $98,500, THE NORTH JUPITER STORMWATER ADAPTATION FOR $945,000, THE ELSA ROAD AND STORMWATER PUMP STATION PHASE TWO AT $227,000 IN 2031, AND THE EASTVIEW MANOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S ALSO A PROJECT THAT WILL BE COMPLETE WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S ALSO WITH OUR PARTNERS.

OVER IN TEQUESTA.

ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION ON, IF YOU GO TO THE STORMWATER FUND PROJECT CHART, SLIDE 7, IN 2029 I SEE GRANT REVENUE, FDEP, OF OVER A MILLION. IS THAT JUST EXPECTED? IS THAT TIED TO THE VULNERABILITY REPORT? WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? AMANDA, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GRANT? GOOD EVENING. SO IN 2029, SEVERAL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED WILL QUALIFY FOR FLORIDA RESILIENT GRANT FUNDING UP TO 50% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. AND SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING.

PURSUING THOSE GRANTS. AND HISTORICALLY IN THE PAST WITH THE STORMWATER FUND, IF WE ANTICIPATE PURSUING A GRANT AND WE DON'T GET IT, THEN WE PUSH THE PROJECT OFF AND JUST KEEP REAPPLYING FOR GRANT FUNDING. RIGHT. BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE QUITE SUCCESSFUL IF YOU'VE DONE THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE RECEIVING THESE SUCCESSFULLY.

YEAH. THAT'S GOOD TO SEE.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE JUST TWO QUICK ONES, TWO QUICK ITEMS ON STORMWATER. NUMBER ONE, AND NOT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT ON PROJECT S-1290, WHICH IS A STORMWATER ASSET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, THERE HAVE NOW BEEN SIX CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF CARRY FORWARD FUNDING NOT ENCUMBERED OF GREATER THAN $1.1 MILLION.

AND IN FISCAL YEAR 27, THE FUNDING CARRIED FORTH IS ALMOST $1.7 MILLION. SO I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AS AN ASK.

THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE CAN ELIMINATE THE INCREMENTAL FUNDING IN 27 AND POSSIBLY BEYOND. I HEAR EVERY YEAR, NO, WE CAN'T, AND YET EVERY YEAR WE'RE CARRYING OVER SO MUCH.

SO NOT A CRITICISM, JUST ASKING, CAN WE CONSIDER DOING THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT? IT ALMOST SEEMS IT BEGS. WE DID THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, MAYOR. WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.

BUT THE FACT THAT IT WENT UP, IT'S THE HIGHEST CARRY FORWARD.

AND I KNOW THE STAFF DOES A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO FIND WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE IN THE YEAR. BUT THAT ONE HAS NEVER GONE DOWN.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO ASK, YOU KNOW, ON THE LEGACY PROJECTS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A PHENOMENAL SHARE THAT YOU GIVE US WITH THE BOOK, BECAUSE WE SEE, AND IT WASN'T ALWAYS THE CASE JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, WE SEE THE LEGACY PROJECTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT STILL HAVE SOME FUNDING IN AN ACCOUNT THAT WE THEREFORE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS SOME OF THOSE HAVE SIGNIFICANT AVAILABLE BALANCE. AND I'M JUST ACCUSTOMED TO MORE STRINGENT ACCOUNTING GUIDELINES THAT WE BEGIN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING OUT FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS WHEN IT'S PLACED INTO SERVICE.

ENCUMBRANCES ARE MADE AT THAT TIME, BUT ALL UNSPENT UNENCUMBERED FUNDS GET SWEPT. I THINK I HEARD LAST YEAR, GEE, THAT'S ONLY DONE ONCE A YEAR IN THE TOWN, BUT... IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THAT WOULD BE A BETTER PROCESS TO DO IT AS WE GO BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE PROJECTS THAT WERE PLACED INTO SERVICE IN 25.

AND IT SEEMS BY NOW IF THEY'RE IN SERVICE, YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER CHANGING THE PRACTICE ON THAT. AND THEN TWO WERE PLACED INTO SERVICE IN 26-1.

BY DOING THAT, WE SEE A HEALTHIER FUND BALANCE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT MONIES THAT ARE SITTING HERE ARE NOT SITTING HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR MORE. SO JUST AN ASK.

AGAIN. WHAT I WAS ACCUSTOMED

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TO FOR A FEW DECADES WAS AT THE TIME THAT PUT IN SERVICE, THE ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT GOT WITH ME AND SAID, HEY, IS THERE SOMETHING TO BE ENCUMBERED? AND WE MAY STILL HAVE PAYMENTS OUTSTANDING AND WHATEVER. WE WOULD TELL THEM HOW MUCH IS TO BE OKAY WITH THAT EXPLANATION THAT THOSE MONIES WERE KEPT ENCUMBERED. AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THERE WAS A MESSY ONE WHERE WE WERE IN LITIGATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE WEREN'T PAYING.

BUT THOSE WERE THE EXCEPTIONS, NOT THE RULE. AND THEN OTHERS WERE SWEPT. THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T USE THAT ACCOUNT ANYMORE.

BUT I JUST ASK FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. THAT'S IT.

OKAY, GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENDMENT 3.

BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT'S THE PROPOSED GENERAL FUND FOR THIS COMING YEAR. YOU CAN SEE THE CASH FLOW BALANCE. WE DO HAVE A SLIGHT DEFICIT SHOWING IN 2028. I DO THINK THAT THAT CAN BE RESOLVED.

WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING THAT ISSUE SINCE WE PUBLISHED THIS DOCUMENT TO TRY TO GET RID OF THAT $85,000. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT BEFORE FIRST READING.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE FUND BALANCE IS STILL THERE. STILL VERY HEALTHY. ONE THING I WANT TO EXPLAIN ABOUT THE CIP FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S THE ACTUAL OPERATING FUND FOR THE TOWN. THOSE FUNDS ARE ACTUALLY KEPT WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. THE CIP IS A SEPARATE FUND AND STANDALONE FUND ITSELF, MEANING THAT WE ARE NOT ACCUMULATING CASH IN THERE AS A SAVINGS ACCOUNT, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IN THE OPERATING FUND, SO YOU WON'T SEE THOSE LARGE BALANCES IN THERE. IT'S BASICALLY JUST TO PAY FOR PROJECTS AS THEY GET APPROPRIATED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL, AND THEN THE FUNDING IS MOVED INTO THE CIP FUND ITSELF, OR WHAT WE CALL THE 310 FUND IN THE ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT.

THE CASH FLOW THAT YOU SEE HERE, IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY EFFECT OF, ON AMENDMENT 3. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE WORKSHOP ON AMENDMENT 3. WE KNOW WHAT THAT, THAT AMOUNT IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE CARVED UP. WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT POINT YET. SO PROCEEDING FORWARD, WE JUST SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE CASH BALANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF AMENDMENT 3 DID NOT PASS AND WE PROCEED FORWARD AS NORMAL.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, AT THE END OF 2031, WE HAVE 4.6 MILLION DOLLARS BEING PROJECTED IN AVAILABLE CASH TO USE FOR OTHER PROJECTS. I ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW THE, THE AVAILABLE, UH, UH, UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OF THE GENERAL FUND ALONG WITH THIS, SO THAT WE GET A GOOD IDEA IF WE NEEDED SOME CASH TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE CASH. WE TALK ABOUT THIS EVERY YEAR DURING THE BUDGETARY PROCESS.

WE TALK ABOUT IT DURING THE OPERATIONS OF, I'M SORRY, THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING WORKSHOP. AND WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW THAT THREE-MONTH RESERVE BALANCE.

IT'S KIND OF A GOOD PRACTICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RESERVING AND THEN WE'RE WELL ABOVE THAT.

TO FUND THE GENERAL FUND ACTIVITY WITHIN THE CIP, YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S $17.1 MILLION PROJECTED FOR FY27.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES PROGRAMMED TO FUND THE GENERAL FUND.

THERE IS $9.9 MILLION IN WHAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE UNRESTRICTED DOLLARS THAT CAN BE USED TO FUND THE PROJECTS, AND $7.2 MILLION IN FUNDING THAT IS...

CONSIDERED TO BE RESTRICTED IN NATURE. $1.6 MILLION IS COMING FROM THE CIP RESERVES, MEANING THOSE ARE DOLLARS, LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THAT WERE LEFT OVER, THAT HAVE BEEN SWEPT BACK INTO THE STATE IN THE 310 FUND AT THE END WHEN A PROJECT IS CLOSED OUT. $1.6 MILLION IS COMING FROM THE CIP RESERVES, THE FUND THAT PROPOSED 27 PLAN.

THESE RESERVES WERE PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO THE FDOT WESTERN INDIANTOWN CORRIDOR PROJECT.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE FDOT HAS PICKED THAT PROJECT UP AND THEY WILL COMPLETE IT ON THEIR OWN. SO THERE WERE FUNDS THAT WERE LEFT OVER. THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, YOU HAD TWO PROJECTS THAT YOU USED SOME OF THAT MONEY TOWARDS ALREADY.

THE REMAINING FUNDS WERE USED TO HELP BALANCE THE CASH SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A DEFICIT IN FY27.

SO THAT REMAINING DOLLARS HAVE BEEN USED TO BALANCE THE CASH GOING FORWARD. $3.1 MILLION IN REMAINING INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX

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FUNDS HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED FOR FIRE 13. THAT WAS AND I THINK THAT'S JUST RECENTLY BEEN RENUMBERED, I THINK AS OF TODAY BUT IT WAS FORMERLY PALM BEACH COUNTY STATION 16.

WE HAVE RENOVATIONS AT THE QUAD FIELD HOUSE AND ROGER DEAN STADIUM. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION. JUST TO QUICKLY TALK ABOUT THE FIRE STATION, THE $3.1 MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR $3.8 MILLION PROJECT FOR THE FIRE STATION, I WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE DO A DEBT ISSUANCE, MAKE THAT PART OF OUR OVERALL DEBT ISSUANCE FOR A PORTION OF THOSE STATION IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEN USE THE REMAINING OF THE SURTAX MONEY TO OFFSET THAT COST. ALSO, $1 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND OPERATING RESERVES WAS BEING PROGRAMMED FOR FIRE VEHICLES AND PLAYGROUND PROJECT FUNDING.

I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT THIS EVENING AS WELL. BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THE DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES THAT GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND PROJECTS, AND THERE'S SOME RESTRICTED AND SOME UNRESTRICTED.

SO THE PROPOSED AD VALOREM AND SURTAX FUNDING PROJECTS, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT, UH... AS WE GO INTO AMENDMENT 03, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MAIN THING WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY AMENDMENT 3 IS ANYTHING THAT'S FUNDED BY AD VALOREM DOLLARS. THE AD VALOREM DOLLARS YOU CAN SEE HERE IS $39 MILLION OF THE TOTAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND PORTION.

YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A SPLIT UP BETWEEN GENERAL GOVERNMENT TYPE ACTIVITIES, WHICH IS PRIMARILY ENGINEERING.

YOU ALSO HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY-TYPE ACTIVITIES AND THEN PARKS AND RECREATION. YOU CAN SEE THE PARKS AND RECREATION IS JUST OVER $19 MILLION OVER THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS AT $10.9 MILLION, AND THEN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT TYPE TOTAL IS $9.1 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE THE LARGEST PORTION OF THE AD VALOREM-FUNDED PROJECTS IS SITTING IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION TYPE ACTIVITY. I WANTED TO SHOW THE SURTAX USAGE AND WHAT'S BEEN OBLIGATED. YOU HAVE $9.3 MILLION IN SURTAX-TYPE ACTIVITIES.

YOU HAVE SOME CARRY-FORWARD DOLLARS HERE RELATING TO THE RENOVATIONS OF THE MARLINS QUAD AT ROGER DEAN STADIUM, THE FIRE STATION 13 RENOVATIONS, THE JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK RENOVATIONS.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT THIS EVENING.

ATHLETIC FIELD REPAIRS AND RESTORATION AT $350,000, AND THEN THE SOUTHERN EXTENSION OF ISLAND WAY. THAT'S BEEN ENCUMBERED HERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AT 4.7, BUT A TOTAL OF $9.3 MILLION IS CURRENTLY ALLOCATED WITHIN THE PROJECTS WITHIN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT.

BY THE WAY, ON THE SURTAX, I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE, THANK YOU, GOD, FOR GIVING US THAT, BECAUSE IF EVERYBODY REMEMBERS, THAT WAS THE SURTAX FOR CATCHING UP ON INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT THERE WASN'T FUNDING FOR.

WE REALLY WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE IT FOR A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, BUT THEN THAT GOES TO SHOW THAT THAT WASN'T A SUSTAINED SOURCE, AND SO WE'RE LIKELY TO BEGIN FALLING BEHIND AGAIN ON INFRASTRUCTURE WITH OR WITHOUT REFERENDUM PASSING.

CORRECT. ONE OF THE THINGS, JUST TO POINT OUT ABOUT THE SURTAX, THEY DID A TRUE-UP OF THE SURTAX FUNDING AFTER JANUARY WHEN IT SUNSETTED, AND WE DID RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT CAME IN AND THAT'S THAT 1.9 MILLION DOLLARS YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT WE HAVE, UH, PROJECTED TO GO FOR STATION 13.

GENERAL FUND NEW PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME INTO THE PROJECT WINDOW UH, THE FIRE STATION 13 WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THAT IT'S A TOTAL OF 3.8 MILLION DOLLARS BEING PROJECTED FOR THAT PROJECT UH, LIGHTHOUSE PARK RENOVATIONS UH, MAPLE PARK RENOVATIONS UH, THIS FALLS BACK TO LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED AND ALSO THE JUPITER PARK DRIVE BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

SO THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE. ONE OF THEM IS THE ROOF AT $550,000, SCHEDULED TO BE '28. THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO GO TO '29.

WE'VE BEEN EVALUATING THAT, BUT $500,000 WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN OVER THERE AT THE NEW FACILITY. BUT JUST TO SET EXPECTATIONS, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS DON'T FUND YET OTHER RENOVATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER USERS IN THE BUILDING. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? NO, THESE ARE JUST GENERAL IMPROVEMENTS. I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTOOD THAT.

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I JUST WANTED TO, WHICH IS WHY I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE USER, YOU KNOW, STUDY SO WE KNOW WHAT OTHER THINGS WOULD GO IN THERE AND COULD GET A HANDLE ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE RENOVATED.

KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SO DIVING INTO THE, WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE JUST WENT OVER? NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DIVING INTO THE AMENDMENT 3 PROJECT FUNDING DISCUSSION. WELL, I THOUGHT THAT BECAUSE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, LIKE WE WERE GOING TO, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HOLD UP UNTIL WE GET INTO THE AMENDMENT 3 DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT GETS KIND OF MESSY, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY, WE'LL GO DETAILED AS WE GO THROUGH THE AMENDMENT 3. AND WHEN WE GO THROUGH THAT, WE GO THROUGH BY EACH AREA, IF YOU WILL. AND THEN WE CAN COVER ALL THE CIP PROJECTS.

SURE. I DO WANT TO SAY JUST, AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SAY IT, BUT... AND AS YOU KNOW, UH, MR. REYNOLDS, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING SOME OF THIS, THERE MAY BE FUNDING ADJUSTMENTS MADE AS A RESULT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT MAY, IN FACT, MAY, IN FACT, IMPACT AVAILABLE FUNDING, POSSIBLY IN A POSITIVE WAY, OR CHANGE WHAT THE FUND BALANCE IS. BUT THERE'S A SUBJECT TO DISCUSSIONS AND AGREEMENT AND COMMENT, THEN, UNTIL WE GET INTO THE PROJECT SPECIFICS.

YES, SIR. SO ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD THE COUNCIL LOUD AND CLEAR WHEN WE MET TO DISCUSS AMENDMENT 3, THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED STAFF TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK TO SEE IF THERE WERE POSSIBLE PROJECTS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY PAUSE OR WHAT COULD CONTINUE.

WE'RE TRYING TO PREPARE OURSELVES SO THAT IF AMENDMENT 3 WERE TO PASS, THAT WE WOULD COME BACK AND HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP. EITHER LATE NOVEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER, BEFORE THE FIRST OF THE CALENDAR YEAR ANYWAYS, TO START PREPARING FOR WHAT THE TOWN WILL DO AFTER THAT VOTE. THIS WILL DO THAT. ONCE WE'RE NOT REQUESTING THAT ANY PROJECTS BE ELIMINATED OR REMOVED, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE IF WE WANT TO DO IT DURING THIS DISCUSSION. BUT THE EXERCISE WAS WHICH PROJECTS COULD BE PAUSED OR DEFERRED.

AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT, IF THERE'S A PROJECT THAT COMES OUT AND THAT'S TARGETED TO BE PAUSED, AS THE COUNCIL INDICATED WHEN WE MET DURING THE WORKSHOP, THAT MEANS STAFF WON'T BE COMING BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL SEEKING A CONTRACT OR SUBMITTING AN RFP.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T STILL KEEP PLANNING. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ASKING FOR EXPENDITURE OF DOLLARS OR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS TOWARDS THOSE PROJECTS UNTIL WE KNOW THE OUTCOME OF AMENDMENT 3.

SO WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING THAT PROJECTS WILL GO AWAY UNLESS THAT IS, AGAIN, THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE DONE.

BUT IT'S A PAUSE, AS WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE COUNCIL. AND THE OUTCOME OF THIS, WHEN WE DO ADOPT WHATEVER CIP WE ADOPT, THERE COULD BE A CLEAR LISTING.

WITH THE TALLY OF WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN THEN POINT TO THAT.

AND I SUSPECT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE, BUT THIS IS A GREAT STARTING POINT FOR US TO DISCUSS. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A GOOD MANAGEMENT PRACTICE TO DO THIS, A GOOD STRATEGY, UNTIL THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF AMENDMENT 3 ARE REALLY UNDERSTOOD AND PUTS THE TOWN IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION SO THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL AFTER NOVEMBER TO START THIS PROCESS OF THINKING, I'M HOW CAN WE COMBAT THAT IMPACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FEELING. THE POTENTIAL PAUSE OF SELECTED CAPITAL PROJECTS IS INTENDED TO BE, AGAIN, TEMPORARY. IT'S A GOOD FINANCIAL MEASURE, AND THERE'S NOT A CANCELLATION OR A PERMANENT ELIMINATION OF PROJECTS UNLESS THE COUNCIL SO WISHES. THE TEMPORARILY PAUSING OF PROJECTS THAT ARE DETERMINED TO HAVE A LOWER IMMEDIATE PRIORITY WILL ALLOW THE TOWN THE ABILITY TO REASSESS FUNDING AVAILABILITY AND PROJECT TIMING. AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, ONCE PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED FOR A TEMPORARY PAUSE AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, THE COUNCIL, OF COURSE, WILL NEED TO HOLD AN ADDITIONAL WORKSHOP LIKE WE JUST DISCUSSED, AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED OR WE'LL DISCUSS HOW TO GO FORWARD WITH THE FUNDING FROM THERE.

BY THE WAY, BEFORE YOU GO BEYOND THIS PAGE, I'M READY TO GIVE YOU A GRADE FOR THIS ITEM. YOU'RE GOING TO WHAT? I'M READY TO GIVE YOU A GRADE. UH-OH.

NO, IT'S A GOOD ONE, I THINK.

IT'S A GOOD ONE, I THINK, BECAUSE WE KNEW WE HAD TO BEGIN SOMEWHERE, AND THIS WAS A LOGICAL FIRST PLACE. AND I KNOW FROM MY PRIOR CAREER

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THAT ALL CAPITAL SPENDING IS DISCRETIONARY, AND WE COULD, AND SO, BUT WHAT I LOOKED AT HERE IS ASSUMING THAT WE JUST ACCEPTED WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING FOR PAUSING, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS, WHICH ISN'T GOING TO BE THE CASE, BUT JUST TO SAY ASSUMING THAT, FROM THE NUMBERS ON THE FOLLOWING PAGES, IT WAS 38 MILLION. THAT 38 MILLION IS 7.6 MILLION A YEAR, WHICH IS HALF OF THE ROUGH, THE REMNANT IMPACT IN JUST ROUGH NUMBERS. SURE.

SO I JUST THOUGHT, GEE, YOU KNOW, THIS EFFORT REALLY, WE NEVER EXPECTED IT WAS GOING TO GET EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, WE KNEW OTHER THINGS WERE GOING TO BE DONE.

BUT I JUST, AS WE REFLECT, I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S A SUCCESS.

AND THAT NUMBER WILL BE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HERE. SO I GIVE A GREAT GRADE FOR THAT. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PAUSED ON THAT SAME NUMBER, BUT THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT. WELL, IT'S THE FISCALLY APPROPRIATE THING TO DO. I KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE COUNCIL GAVE CLEAR DIRECTION AT THE WORKSHOP TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THIS.

THE GRADING SCALE, JUST TO JUMP INTO THAT, OR THE VALUATION PROCESS, DUE TO AMENDMENT 3 PROJECTED IMPACT TO THE TOWN'S ABILITY TO RAISE AD VALOREM FUNDING, PROJECTS FUNDED BY AD VALOREM DOLLARS ARE THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS EXERCISE OR REDISTRIBUTION OF OTHER REVENUE TYPES.

TOWARDS HIGHER PRIORITY PROJECTS. FOUR SCORING CATEGORIES ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WHICH IS PUBLIC SAFETY, ANYTHING THAT'S REGULATORY IN NATURE, LEGAL, AND SERVICE DISRUPTION. EACH PROJECT WAS EVALUATED AGAINST THE SCORING CATEGORIES ON A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE.

SCORE OF ONE IS THE HIGHEST IMPORTANCE OR PRIORITY. A SCORE OF FIVE IS OF THE LOWEST PRIORITY IMPORTANCE. BASED ON THE PROJECT'S AVERAGE SCORE PROJECTS SCORING THREE OR LESS ARE PROPOSED TO CONTINUE AND PROJECT SCORING MORE THAN THREE ARE PROPOSED TO IN A PAUSE CATEGORY AGAIN IT'S A KIND OF A GO NO GO TYPE OF SCORING SYSTEM GENERAL FUND CIP PROJECTS ARE EVALUATED IN THESE THREE CATEGORIES OF GENERAL GOVERNMENT PARKS AND RECREATION PUBLIC SAFETY SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE GIVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT IT MEANS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, REGULATORY.

REGULATORY HAS BEEN A QUESTION OVER AND OVER AND OVER REALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL STATE OR LOCAL REGULATIONS OR PERMIT REQUIREMENTS IT'S AGAINST THE PROJECT ALSO LEGAL MAYBE WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OR MAYBE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY OR ANOTHER AGENCY AND THEN OF COURSE THE SERVICE DISRUPTION IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF DELAY IN THE PROJECT IT COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE TOWN'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL PUBLIC SERVICES OR MAYBE EVEN COST MORE LATER ON. SO THEY HAD TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

AND, OF COURSE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT, THAT'S ALWAYS NUMBER ONE FOR THE TOWN, IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY. DOES IT DELAY? IF WE DELAY THE PROJECT, DOES IT INCREASE THE RISK OF PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR EMERGENCY RESPONSE? SO WE ALWAYS GOT TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. AND THEN YOU SEE THE SCORING SCALE. STAFF WENT THROUGH THIS. WE REVIEWED EACH OF THE PROJECTS THAT MET THESE CRITERIAS.

THE COME UP WITH THE RANKINGS.

DIRECTOR REYNOLDS, REAL QUICK QUESTION ON THE PROCESS. WERE ALL DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED IN THIS SCORING AS A GROUP TYPE EVENT OR INDIVIDUALLY? WE ACTUALLY MET WITH THE DEPARTMENTS INDIVIDUALLY THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROJECTS AND GAINED THEIR INPUT INTO QUESTIONS THAT WOULD FIT INTO EACH ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES AND THEN WE SCORED THEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST BEFORE WE GO BEYOND THIS, I JUST WANT TO SHARE AGAIN I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PHENOMENAL EFFORT. I'M GRATEFUL.

BEFORE I HAD GOTTEN THIS, IT'S INTERESTING, I HAD GIVEN MY INPUT AND COME UP WITH SOME DIFFERENCES.

BUT NONETHELESS, THIS WAS AN EXTREMELY THOROUGH PROCESS. I FIND NO FAULT WITH IT. I COMMEND IT.

BUT JUST TO SHARE, BECAUSE WHEN WE GET INTO SPECIFICS, I WANT OTHERS TO UNDERSTAND. AND WE ALL CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY WE PRIORITIZE, AND THAT'S OKAY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE ALWAYS TALKED SO MUCH ABOUT CAPITALISM. WELL, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CAPITALIZED MAINTENANCE WORK AND CAPITALIZED IMPROVEMENTS UPGRADE WORK.

AND TO ME, THAT IS A DISTINGUISHING POINT BEFORE I THEN GO INTO RANKING THAT.

AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT MAINTENANCE GETS A FREE RIDE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE RISKS IF YOU DON'T MAINTAIN. AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU'RE DOING A MAINTENANCE PROJECT AND SOME PORTION IS AN UPGRADE WHERE YOU CAN SCALE BACK THE UPGRADE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

BUT I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, SO YOU'LL HEAR SOME OF MY CONVERSATIONS IS ABOUT,

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BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS WE'VE MOVED MAINTENANCE, WHAT I WOULD CALL MAINTENANCE ITEM INTO THE CAPITALIZED, INTO THE CAPITAL CIP. AND THAT WAS OKAY, BUT WE JUST NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT. SO ANYWAY.

AND THEN, ANYWAY, I GUESS THAT'S IT. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES, BUT THAT'S NOT A FAULT OF THIS. IT'S JUST THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, I'VE BEEN THINKING THAT WAY FOR 30 YEARS WITH MY PRIOR EMPLOYER, AND IT'S HARD TO GET IT OUT OF MY BRAIN.

WELL, TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, WE, I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SENT OUT TO EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THE RANKINGS AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU ALL COULD SEE THEM. AND WE ACTUALLY GAVE YOU YOUR OWN SCORING SHEET, SO DURING THE PROCESS YOU CAN WEIGH IN.

THAT'S THE POINT, THAT WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS.

IT'LL SPUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PROJECTS, AND TO ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECTS, WE HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE SCORING, THAT'S FINE. AND, OR IF YOU WANT TO MOVE SOMETHING AROUND, THAT'S FINE AS WELL. THIS IS YOUR PRO THIS IS YOUR CIP. BUT WE ASK THAT YOU DID THE SCORING AND DO YOUR OWN EVALUATION AS WELL, SO THAT YOU CAN COME PREPARED THIS EVENING, AND IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO WITH THAT I'LL JUST GO START GOING THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS IF THAT'S OKAY AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT STATUS OF EACH OF THE PROJECTS. WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS IN IF IT'S IN GREEN THAT MEANS IT'S IT'S BEEN SCORED TO CONTINUE. YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE IN THIS COLUMN HERE THE SCORE ANYTHING THREE OR LOWER WAS SCORED TO CONTINUE.

ANYTHING ABOVE THREE WAS SCORED TO HOLD OR PAUSE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE WE ALSO HAVE PROJECT CURRENT STATUS INFORMATION ON WHY SOME OF THE SCORES WERE LIKE THEY WERE. THE COLLECTOR ROADWAY LIGHTING PROJECT, IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN.

YOU CAN SEE THE LEGACY FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE AT $96,000, SO IT RECEIVES A SCORE OF 3. SO THAT'S BEEN FLAGGED TO CONTINUE. THE TONEY PENNA DRIVE AND BUSH ROAD INTERSECTION THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, $74,000, AND LEGACY FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. THAT'S ALSO BEEN FLAGGED TO CONTINUE AND SCORED UNDER THREE. OPEN SPACE PROGRAM, THAT'S ALSO ESCROW FUNDING THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT EVEN FUNDED BY AD VALOREM DOLLARS BUT IT IS IN THE CIP.

I PUT IT IN HERE JUST SO WE CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT IT THAT HAS ALSO BEEN FLAGGED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE OF THIS FUNDING SOURCE. THE INDIANTOWN ROAD WESTERN CORRIDOR, YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. THE LEGACY FUNDING THAT WAS THERE HAS NOW BEEN TURNED OVER TO AN FDOT PROJECT. THE REMAINING FUNDING HAS BEEN ALLOCATED BY THE COUNCIL AT THE LAST MEETING, AND ALSO THE REMAINING WAS USED TO BALANCE THE CASH FLOW GOING FORWARD WITHIN THE CIP. SO THERE WAS NO SCORE, PAUSE, OR CONTINUE ON THAT ONE.

THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, THERE'S AN RFP CURRENTLY OUT, TURN LANES, AND IT'S AN ONGOING PROJECT.

THAT WAS ALSO FLAGGED TO CONTINUE. THE BEACH ACCESS WALKOVER AND STAIRWAY RESILIENCE, THAT'S DUE TO EROSION. YOU CAN SEE IF WE WAIT MUCH LONGER ON THAT ONE, THE ACTUAL STAIRWELL WILL ACTUALLY START ERODING THERE.

SO THAT WAS FLAGGED TO CONTINUE. THE JUPITER PARK DRIVE IMPROVEMENTS, AS YOU HAD INDICATED EARLIER, WE DISCUSSED, JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE... ROOF AND THEN OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE BUILDING THAT'S ALSO BEEN FLAGGED TO CONTINUE.

CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE ON? SURE. DID YOU NOT SAY WE HAD A FIVE-YEAR LIFE ON THAT? I'M SORRY? DID YOU NOT SAY WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR LIFE LEFT ON THE ROOF? IT WAS ACTUALLY FLAGGED AS TWO TO THREE YEARS FOR THE ROOF.

WE COULD.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE COULD ACTUALLY EXTEND. I TALKED TO OUR ENGINEERING DIRECTOR.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXTEND THAT FOR ONE EXTRA YEAR BEYOND THAT AND DO SOME ROOF REPAIRS IF NEEDED. THE JUPITER BEACH SHORELINE PROTECTION, THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ILA THAT WE HAVE WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY. THEY HAVE BEEN PROPOSING SOME NEW PROJECTS COMING UP. THEY MET WITH THE BEACH COMMITTEE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, HERE RECENTLY, INDICATING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO START WORKING ON SOME PROJECTS. UH, WE BASICALLY, WE PUT TWO WE PUT BACK $250,000 ANNUALLY. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT GOES OUT FOR 30 YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN ACCUMULATING CASH TO PAY FOR THAT, SO WE'VE MARKED THAT AS CONTINUING. THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO THE ILA WITH THE COUNTY. THE SAWFISH

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BAY SEAWALL, AND A PROJECT THAT'S UNDER DESIGN FOR THE RETAINING WALL.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE AN ENCUMBRANCE FOR THAT, AND ALSO WE'RE APPLYING FOR STATE APPROPRIATIONS. THAT ONE'S BEEN FLAGGED TO CONTINUE PRIMARILY IF WE'RE APPLYING FOR THOSE APPROPRIATIONS, THE STATE WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THAT WE'VE FLAGGED IT TO NOT GO FORWARD.

THEY WANT TO SEE THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO CONTINUE THAT TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE GRANT APPLICATION. SO THAT ONE WAS FLAGGED TO CONTINUE. THE SIMS CREEK PRESERVE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S OUT TO BID. FY27 APPLYING FOR FUTURE FUNDING AS WELL. SO AGAIN, THAT ONE'S BEEN FLAGGED TO CONTINUE. $320,000 IS SITTING THERE AVAILABLE.

THE MAST ARM SIGNAL AT TONEY PENNA, AGAIN, THAT'S AN ILA COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL WITH STATE APPROPRIATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED. SO THAT CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, I THINK, LAST TUESDAY AS WELL. THAT WAS FLAGGED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE OF THOSE PURPOSES.

YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS ANSWER.

DIRECTOR REYNOLDS SCORED RELATIVELY LOW PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT, TO ME, IS A HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION. I CAN ATTEST TO THAT BECAUSE MY WIFE WAS.

T-BONED AT IT. SOMEBODY'S SPEEDING ACROSS IT. SO I THINK FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, I TALLY THAT AS A 1 AND END UP GETTING AN OVERALL SCORE OF 2. SO I JUST MAYBE HAVE THE TOWN GO BACK.

FOR WHICH ONE, I'M SORRY? THE LAST ONE, THE E0015, THE SIGNAL AT TONEY PENNA AND CENTRAL.

OKAY, THAT WAS ACTUALLY... AND I DRIVE IT EVERY DAY AND THERE'S PEOPLE RACING ACROSS THERE JUST IN AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

BUT IT'S CONTINUED. YEAH, IT IS. SO IT'S CONTINUED, BUT IF I HAD TO COME TO...

PRIORITIZE ALL THOSE THREES. I UNDERSTAND. IT'S A LOW SCORE. I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT'S A LOW SCORE FOR THAT. OKAY. YEAH.

OKAY. WE CAN UPDATE THAT. I'M JUST BEING CONTINUED, BUT I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE SCORE IT WAS GIVEN. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.

I GOT A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT, I THOUGHT IT'D BE BEST TO LET YOU FINISH EACH PAGE AND THEN WEIGH IN. SO YOU WERE EXPLAINING. SO FIRST OF ALL, ON THE COLLECTOR ROADWAY LIGHTING, AND I'M TRYING TO LOOK QUICKLY WHERE I GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM, BUT THERE WAS TWO ROADWAYS THAT WERE PROCEEDING, WERE LEFT TO BE DONE.

ONE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS THE ONE IN PROGRESS, SO YOU ENCUMBERED FUNDS, AND THE OTHER ONE, IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME WHETHER IT HAS STARTED YET, AND THAT WAS, I THINK, RIVERSIDE DRIVE. IF IT HADN'T YET STARTED YET, I WOULD CALL THAT A PAUSE, AND I JUST WANT TO USE THE EXPLANATION ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW ALL OF US, THIS HAS CHANGED FOR US, AND PEOPLE MAY SAY, OH, YOU'RE GOING TO PAUSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT...

THE COMMUNITY WANTED IT AND WE'VE BEEN DOING COLLECTOR ROADWAY LIGHTING. CENTRAL BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A CLEARLY A COLLECTOR ROAD OUTSIDE OF THE SHORES, HAS NO STREET LIGHTS. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAVE IT WAITING ON THE, YOU KNOW, WAITING ON THE COUNTY. SO QUITE FRANKLY, IF AMENDMENT, THIS AMENDMENT GETS PASSED, THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE ANY MORE COLLECTOR ROADWAY LIGHTING PROJECTS. AND WE'RE LUCKY WE GOT DONE THE ONES WE GOT DONE.

SO I JUST ASKED STAFF IF THIS, IF THERE'S ONE THAT IS IT CONSTRUCTED YET? I THINK IT SHOULD BE PAUSED. IT'S $100,000, BUT I JUST KIND OF WEIGH IN. I MEAN, THESE ARE TOUGH DECISIONS, BUT THAT'S THE WAY LIFE IS.

THE WORLD'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT IF IT PASSES.

AND I'M JUST GIVING YOU THAT EXAMPLE. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S FUNNY, MY WIFE WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, SHE COMMENTS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BECAUSE LONGSHORE DRIVE WAS DONE BY THE TOWN, WE HAVE LIGHTING, BUT YOU GO UP CENTRAL BOULEVARD AND THERE'S NOTHING, BECAUSE THE COUNTY HASN'T BEEN DOING IT AND THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO DO IT. AND SO WE HAVE TO START THINKING DIFFERENTLY.

THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE IS GOING TO BE LESS. WE CAN'T GO BACK AND CONTINUE TO UPGRADE IF THE PUBLIC DECIDED THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR IT. WELL, AND THAT'S A DIFFICULT ONE BECAUSE THAT IS SAFETY WITH THE LACK OF LIGHTING THERE. OH, YEAH.

NO, AND THAT PROJECT WAS INITIATED BY, AND WE GOT MOST OF OUR COLLECTOR ROADS, BUT I'M JUST SUGGESTING TO PAUSE, THAT ONE I WOULD PAUSE FOR THAT REASON.

I'M JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROCESS THAT I USE.

THEN ON WE THE INDIANTOWN ROAD WESTERN CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, YOU DID RIGHTLY SWEEP THE GENERAL FUNDS. DID YOU ALSO PULL BACK THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES? YES.

OKAY, SO THAT'S BEEN... YEP.

OKAY.

THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THERE'S... I SEE DETAILS IN THE WRITE-UP OF SCOPE OF WORK, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IN... AND ALL OF THAT WORK NOW WAS, UH, LISTED AS BEING TRAFFIC IMPACT

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FEES. AND, AND I, I JUST ASKED STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. I DON'T THINK ALL OF THAT WORK WOULD QUALIFY, UH, FOR BEING TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.

I SAW YOUR COMMENTS. OKAY, COME, COME THROUGH. AND AGAIN, UM, SO THEN IF IT ISN'T, THEN I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IF SOMETHING IS ELIGIBLE FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE, IT IS AN UPGRADE THAT, YOU KNOW, RISES TO A LEVEL. IF IT'S MAINTENANCE WORK AND WHATEVER, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS ONE MAY NEED TO BE PARTIALLY PAUSED. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SCOPE IS, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE OF THIS. WHEN SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE LIKE A BUCKET OF TYPES OF PROJECTS, SOME OF THEM COULD BE PAUSED, AND REALLY I'M GOING TO RELY ON STAFF TO HELP, YOU KNOW, DIRECT THAT. I'M NOT MICROMANAGING, BUT WE CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY PUSH THE PAUSE BUTTON ON CERTAIN THINGS.

ON THE SHORELINE PROTECTION, I GATHERED AND I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THIS IN THE WRITE-UP THAT THERE'S A JUPITER BEACH PROJECT BEING PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE TOLD TONIGHT. I AND MY COLLEAGUES, I'M SURE, WOULD BE ANXIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THAT PROJECT IS.

AND THEN FURTHER, I THINK GOING FORTH, BECAUSE I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE, BUT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO OUR LEGISLATORS. BENDING THEIR EAR ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE I, I USE THIS ONE AS AN EXAMPLE OF AN UNFUNDED MANDATE RIGHT? WE NEVER DID IT BEFORE, AND NOW IT'S AND, UH, AND THERE'S AT LEAST ONE LEGISLATURE THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL LEGISLATOR THAT'S SAYING, OKAY, THAT HE RECOGNIZES THAT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING HE OUGHT TO BE FUNDING, RIGHT, AND NOT US, RIGHT? THE, THE THE UM, SHORELINE PROTECTION PROGRAM ITSELF THAT IS A COUNTY PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND.

BUT IT IS ALSO FUNDED BY THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH. THEY ACTUALLY CARRY THE LARGEST LOAD OF THOSE PROJECTS. NO, I KNOW THEY DO. I KNOW THEY DO.

BUT I'M JUST BASICALLY, AND IT'S AN AWARENESS THING. I DON'T THINK MANY LEGISLATORS DID KNOW.

WE NEVER DID IT FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO. I KNOW WE'RE OBLIGATED PER THE ILA, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THOSE ARE THE KIND OF PROJECTS NOW WE NEED TO TARGET AND RAISE AWARENESS ON.

UH, AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A PROJECT NEXT YEAR, IT MAY BE TOO LATE, BUT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORTH, BECAUSE WE NEVER...

WE, UP TILL NOW, ASSUMED, RIGHTLY, THAT THE STATE AND FEDS ARE GOING TO FUND WHAT THEY FUND, AND THEN WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO FUND THE REST, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW WE GOT INTO THIS BEING STUCK WITH AN ILA.

BUT WE NEED TO PUSH BACK, BECAUSE I THINK THEY MAY BE RECEPTIVE TO IT. I DON'T WANT TO JUST KIND OF ACCEPT WE'RE NOW BOUND BY THE ILA, BECAUSE IF WE CAN GRANT FUNDING TO OFFSET IT, THEN GREAT.

AND WHILE I DON'T DISAGREE, YOU TALKED ABOUT ON THE SAWFISH BAY SEAWALL THAT IF WE'RE APPLYING FOR GRANT FUNDING, THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THE PROJECT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE, I CALL IT A PAUSE BECAUSE IT'S CONTINGENT UPON FDEP GRANT FUNDING.

OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE DONE CERTAIN THINGS, AND IF THE PROJECT IS ON THERE AND WE DON'T GET THE GRANT FUNDING, SOMETIMES WE'VE CONTINUED WITH THE PROJECT. THAT SEAWALL IS NOT IN ANY STATE OF COLLAPSE, AND SO IF IT HAS TO BE PUSHED OUT A YEAR OR TWO, THEN IT COULD BE PUSHED OUT.

SO I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT ONE IS A PAUSE BECAUSE IT'S CONTINGENT UPON FDEP GRANT FUNDING.

CAN I CHIME IN ON THAT? SURE.

OUR ENGINEER, WHAT WAS HIS ASSESSMENT WHEN THAT REPAIRS, MAYBE THE CAP ON THE SEAWALL NEEDED TO BE DONE? WE GOT OUR ENGINEERING DIRECTOR, WHEN HE JOINED, HE WAS OUT THERE IN HIS FIRST WEEK OR TWO.

I DON'T THINK HE DISAGREES, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING IS A GRANT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY ISN'T A STRETCH TO JUST SAY IT'S TIED TO THAT GRANT. IT IS.

IS THERE AN URGENCY TO FIXING THE CAP ON THE SEAWALL? GEORGE DZAMA, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. YEAH, SO THE SEAWALL, OBVIOUSLY, IT IS IN NEED OF REPAIRS, BUT IT CAN BE EXTENDED UNTIL WE GET IT FOR A YEAR. WE DO NEED TO GET TO IT SOONER THAN LATER, JUST LIKE ANY INFRASTRUCTURE, THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THE MORE DETERIORATION, THE REBAR SWELLS, AND IT BECOMES MORE COSTLY.

RIGHT, YEAH, OKAY. THAT WAS IT.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ON STATE APPROPRIATIONS. IS THERE A DEADLINE FOR SPENDING

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THAT FUNDING IF RECEIVED? OCTOBER IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

USUALLY WHEN IT GETS TO THE GRANT AGENCIES, YOU ENTER AN INDIVIDUAL GRANT AGREEMENT, AND IT'S USUALLY ESTABLISHED FOR A YEAR, BUT YOU CAN APPLY FOR EXTENSIONS. WE MAKE OUR BEST EFFORTS TO SPEND THE MONEY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE WE HAVE PRIORITIZED PROJECTS, THAT'S WHY WE KEEP GETTING MORE APPROPRIATIONS. BUT FOR THIS CYCLE, IS IT IN OCTOBER WHEN WE'RE SUBMITTING THE... WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE SEAWALL? THE APPLICATION IS SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 1ST THAT IT'S DUE, AND WE'LL RECEIVE RESULTS BY DECEMBER. RIGHT. AND THAT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GRANT THAT'S UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE STATE AGENCY TO GRANT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THE SLATE OF APPROPRIATION, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT CALENDAR.

THANK YOU. RIGHT.

CAN I CONTINUE NOW? OKAY.

SO WE PLACED IN BLUE THE ONES THAT WERE SCORED FOR A PAUSE.

AND REGARDING STREET RESURFACING, THERE HAVE BEEN CONTRACTS THAT HAVE CURRENTLY BEEN AWARDED THAT WILL GET US OUT TO THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN NO PROJECTS OR, I'M SORRY, NO CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED FOR THAT YET. SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT IT WAS PUT IN FOR A PAUSE. THERE'S, THERE'S NO CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION BASED ON THAT. SAME THING WITH THE TOWN-WIDE SIDEWALK R&R. IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS, OVER A MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW, AND IN AD VALOREM DOLLARS. THAT ALSO RECEIVED A PAUSE. PUBLIC WORKS FLEET BUILDING RENOVATION.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THE SIDEWALK R&R? SURE.

AGAIN, I LOOKED AT THAT. I THINK IT'S FOR NEXT YEAR, IT'S LIKE $165,000 OR WHATEVER. BUT TO ME, SIDEWALKS ARE BEING UPLIFTED THROUGH THE ENTIRE TOWN BY OAK TREES AND WHATEVER. I KNOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS IT. I KNOW THE SHORES HAS IT QUITE A BIT.

BUT YET THIS, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY, WAS SCORED FIVE AS OPPOSED TO ONE. THESE PRESENT TRIP HAZARDS, POTENTIAL INJURY, AND LIABILITY TO THE TOWN. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BY RANKING THIS SO LOW AT A 5 AS OPPOSED TO A 1? BY THE WAY, THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE GRINDING, DOES IT? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY, SO THEY DO. I JUST WANTED TO DISTINGUISH IF IT WORKS IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, AND OUR ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CAN TELL US IF IT'S DIFFERENT.

SO IT MEANS THAT SOME AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK FOOT... AS LONG AS YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH LIFT, STILL A TRIP HAZARD. YEAH, WE'LL CONTINUE THE GRINDING PROGRAM WITH OUR OPERATING.

BUT THE R&R WAS PRIMARILY FOR CONTRACTED WORK BECAUSE THE VOLUME OF WORK IS BECOMING TOO MUCH FOR OUR CREWS IN-HOUSE. AND SO WE'VE ELECTED TO GO TO THE CAPITAL FOR CONTRACTED WORK AND WE'RE ACTUALLY COORDINATING A LOT OF THIS WITH OUR RESURFACING PROJECTS SO WHEN WE'RE IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE EGRET'S LANDING WE'RE ACTUALLY UTILIZING THE CIP SHEET FOR THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENTS WITH THAT PROJECT OKAY ALL RIGHT SO ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE ROOT MITIGATION WHICH IS YOU KNOW GRINDING FOR THE HEAVE OF THE CONCRETE SLABS, ROOT HEAVING UP, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE HAZARDS ALL OVER TOWN. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE GRINDING, WE'LL HANDLE MOST OF THAT.

SO, YES, AS WE REMOVE, AS WE IDENTIFY SIDEWALKS, AND THE SAME GOES FOR OUR GUTTER, CURB AND GUTTER PROGRAM, WE REMOVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE COORDINATE WITH THE HOAS, WHOM ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TREES AND THE ROOTS, AND THEY HIRE, USUALLY HIRE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR TO DO THE ROOT PRUNING. AND THEN WE PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BACK. OKAY. AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT THAT THERE MAY BE SOME HOAS THAT SAY THEY CAN'T FUND THE ROOT PRUNING. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF DECISIONS OUR FUTURE MAY CAUSE US TO AGONIZE A LOT ABOUT, RIGHT? IF WE ALL JUST WAIT IN,

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YOU KNOW, I KIND OF... ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE GRINDING. I ASSUME YOU HAVE CRITERIA ONCE YOU GRIND SO MUCH, YOU'VE STILL GOT LIFT, AND IT DOES PRESENT IT'S STILL A TRIP EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE IN GROUND. YOU'D LOOK AT THAT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO R&R THE SIDEWALK? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY GRIND SO MUCH BEFORE THE SIDEWALK GETS SO THIN THAT YOU HAVE TO ELECT TO REMOVE THE WHOLE PANEL OF SIDEWALKS, SO 10 TO 30 FEET IN SOME AREAS.

AND THAT ADDS UP BECAUSE ALL THE TREES, THEY ALL GROW TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A...

THREE, FOUR-MONTH PAUSE. I DO HAVE A COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT IF WE COULD ON THIS. WITH THE HAZARDS FOR FALLING, WHERE DOES THE ADA COME INTO PLAY WITH THIS IF THERE IS AN ACCIDENT OR AN INJURY AS A RESULT OF THESE SIDEWALKS? SO OUR STAFF WILL GO AROUND AND EVALUATE TRIP HAZARDS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND WHAT WE DO IS WE END UP CLOSING THE SIDEWALK DUE TO IT BEING A SAFETY HAZARD.

WE IN SOME CASES WILL GRIND TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE AND IF IT'S BEYOND THE GRINDING AND THE ROOT UPHEAVAL IS SO EXTENSIVE WE JUST WE CLOSE THE SIDEWALK ENTIRELY AND YOU MAY SEE THAT IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THE CONCRETE, BUT IT'S STILL UP TO THE HOA TO GRIND THE ROOTS. AND MUCH LIKE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, SOME OF THESE HOAS ARE BECOMING MORE RESISTANT DUE TO COSTS.

BUT IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IF THE TOWN WERE TO TOUCH THE ROOT AND THE TREE WERE TO DIE, THE TOWN WOULD BE LIABLE. SO IF WE PUT THIS ON PAUSE, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY SAYING IT WAS INDIANTOWN ROAD OR CENTER, WHERE THERE IS NOT AN HOA, WOULD THAT BE IGNORED UNTIL WE OPEN THIS UP AGAIN OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK? EVERYTHING WE DO HERE TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO TRUST THAT OUR STAFF IS NOT GOING TO LET SOME ABSOLUTELY UNSAFE CONDITION EXIST. NOW THAT BEING SAID, A TRIP CAN HAPPEN WITH VARIOUS DIFFERENT DEGREES AND WE'RE ALWAYS AT RISK FOR THIS HAVING TREES, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, GREAT DISCUSSION AND I SHARE EVERYBODY'S CONCERN ABOUT THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORT TERM. AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IF THIS PASSES, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND PROBABLY REVISIT THE DECISION WITH AGONY ABOUT, WELL, GEE, WHEN WERE YOU REPLACING IT? AND WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND HOPEFULLY THE PUBLIC REALIZES THAT THESE ARE THE KIND OF SERVICES, LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING THAT I BELIEVE THEY WANTED.

BUT IF THEY SAY NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR IT. I THINK THAT'S COMING OUT.

I MEAN, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS. AND AS YOU SAID, THIS IS SHORT TERM. THIS IS JUST TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS. THIS IS NOT A HIGH-STAKES MEETING. THAT MEETING WILL COME LATER AFTER THE VOTE OR THINGS CONTINUE ON.

BUT WE'RE GETTING A GLIMPSE OF THE, MAYBE THE THINGS WE DIDN'T FULLY REALIZE ABOUT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. I DIDN'T REALIZE, AND I KNOW THE COUNTY WAS DISCUSSING THEIR CIP AND THEY TALKED ABOUT IF THINGS GET IN SUCH BAD SHAPE, WE'RE CLOSING BATHROOMS, WE'RE CLOSING FACILITIES BECAUSE OF SAFETY CONCERNS, AND THEY'RE NO LONGER USABLE.

THEY'RE AT THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE. SO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THIS WILL EVER HAPPEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT FUNDING THIS BECAUSE AMENDMENT 3 PASSES ONE DAY AND THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE PRIORITIZE, WE WILL LOSE SECTIONS OF THE SIDEWALK AND THOSE WILL NO LONGER BE AVAILABLE. SO I JUST NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. IT'S INTERESTING. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE PAUSING THIS. EVEN A BARRICADE, WHICH HAS BEEN USED, PEOPLE WALK AROUND, REMOVE IT. SO ALL IT IS IS IT'S A RISK. RESPONSIBLE ACTION ON STAFF TO TRY TO WARN PEOPLE THAT THERE'S A HAZARD AHEAD.

OF COURSE, BUT I'M STILL, TO ME, THESE... NO, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY DOESN'T KNOW THIS, WE PROBABLY GET A HANDFUL OF LITIGATIONS EVERY YEAR ON SOMEBODY TRIPPING, AND THAT'S SOMEWHAT MITIGATED BY THIS PROGRAM WE HAVE, BUT TRIPS STILL HAPPEN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION ON THE GRINDING. THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

CONTINUING ON WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS FLEET BUILDING RENOVATION, THAT'S A SMALL RENOVATION TO A BATHROOM OUT THERE. IT'S TOTALLY AD VALOREM FUNDED.

RIGHT NOW WE FELT LIKE A PAUSE FOR A COUPLE MONTHS ISN'T GOING TO BE HINDERED AT THIS POINT, BUT WE DO NEED TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS OUT OF THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD FOR THE BATHROOM FACILITY.

ENHANCED ENTRANCE TO THE MAJOR GATEWAYS ON

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INDIANTOWN ROAD. PHASE ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETE. PHASE TWO, PLANNING AND NOTHING IS OBLIGATED AT THIS POINT FOR THE $300,000 THAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE FUTURE YEARS OR EVEN THE LEGACY FUNDING THAT WOULD ROLL OVER. THAT RECEIVED A SCORE OF FIVE, SO THAT'S PLACED IT ON THE PAUSE LIST. THE SOUTHERN EXTENSION OF ISLAND WAY IS CURRENTLY STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE, STILL VERY EARLY. RIGHT NOW IT'S A IT'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES WITHIN THAT PROJECT, OVER $2 MILLION IN GENERAL REVENUES, A VAST MAJORITY OF SURTAX MONEY. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER, $10.3 MILLION FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS OF THE PAUSE AND HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION IN NOVEMBER OR LATE NOVEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONES ON THIS LIST ARE COMPLETE, SO THAT FUNDING WILL BE FREED UP TO GO INTO THE RESERVES. A TOTAL OF 17.6 MILLION DOLLARS, UH, LISTED HERE ON, UH, IN, IN PAUSE PROJECTS, THE LARGEST ONE, UH, BEING THE, UH, UH, 10.3 MILLION DOLLARS. OKAY, I HAVE A COMMENTS ON A NUMBER OF THESE. FIRST OF ALL, I'LL START WITH THAT LAST ONE YOU DISCUSSED, UH, THE SOUTHERN EXTENSION OF ISLAND WAY. UM, IT'S REALLY NOT A PAUSE. CONSTRUCTION CAN'T PROCEED ANYWAY. UM, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. I THOUGHT I SAW IT SOMEWHERE WHERE IT WAS AN NA.

SO, BECAUSE WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE WORKING ON THAT, BUT AS WE ARE, BUT IT'S, SO IT'S REALLY AN NA.

BUT THIS IS ONE, AND IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE HERE, IS AS I REFLECT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SO MANY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT MITIGATION PROJECTS THAT...

WE DIDN'T ALWAYS DEPLOY. A LOT OF TIMES WE JUST WENT TO GENERAL REVENUES. AND, YOU KNOW, GOING FORTH, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS DIFFERENTLY.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT. IT IS AT LEVEL OF SERVICE OBLIGATION. SO AND I MAY AND I WOULD EXPECT I'M THE MOST BIGGEST ADVOCATE THAT WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY ON THE RECORD, AND I THINK THE CIP SHOULD INCORPORATE THIS.

PROJECTS SHOULD NOW, SHOULD BE DESIGNATED AS BEING CONTINGENT UPON PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE FUNDING BY DEVELOPERS.

BY TAKING THAT STEP, BECAUSE THEY'RE RELYING UPON THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT'S OUR PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE, AND STAFF HAS WORKED THIS UP, AND THIS IS IN CONVERSATIONS WITH APPLICATIONS IN PROGRESS. CONSISTENT WITH THAT, THAT'D BE NOTED ON THE CIP SHEET. WE SHOULD REDUCE THE UNSPENT CARRY FORWARDS, RETURNING $2.735 MILLION TO THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE AND RETURNING SURTAX PROCEEDS, USAGE COMMITMENTS BY $2 MILLION.

AND THAT'S JUST A KIND OF A ROUGH ADJUSTMENT ON WHAT IS SITTING THERE TIED UP AS CARRY FORWARD FUNDING, BUT MORE APPROPRIATELY SHOULD BE REALLOCATED. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT.

SO? THAT SENDS A MESSAGE. THE WORLD'S DIFFERENT. PERHAPS WE MIGHT HAVE PROCEEDED WITH A PROJECT LIKE THAT, BUT CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT SHOULD THEN, YOU KNOW, BEGIN TO RESULT IN MOVEMENT ON SOME SIGNIFICANT MONEY.

ON THE INDIANTOWN ROAD WESTERN CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, I THINK MAYBE I ALREADY ASKED THIS, BUT YOU SAY YOU DID RETURN THE $800,000 IN ROAD IMPACT FEES? THE, THE, THE TOTAL, YES.

THAT'S PART OF THE, WHAT WE USE TO BALANCE OUT THE, THE CASH FLOW. ARE YOU READY I KNOW YOU COMMENT YOU USE THE, UH, THE 1.6 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND BALANCE, BUT YOU ALSO MOVE THE AND BECAUSE 800,000 WAS FROM ROAD IMPACT FEES FOR THAT PROJECT, RIGHT? WE PUT IT BACK INTO THE IMPACT FEE TRUST FUND AND WAS UTILIZED BY OTHER PROJECTS. OKAY. UM, SO ON THE STREET RESURFACING, I DON'T SUPPORT PAUSING IT, AND I'M GOING TO JUST STATE MY CASE. FIRST OF ALL, THAT IS CAPITALIZED MAINTENANCE WORK THAT IS AT LEAST PARTIALLY FUNDABLE BY USE OF LOCAL GAS TAX REVENUES THAT HAVE USAGE RESTRICTIONS, INCLUDING ROADWAY MAINTENANCE.

SO HERE'S WHERE WE GET INTO MOST OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES ARE UNRESTRICTED, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE.

AND I KNOW THAT WE EVEN THAT FUND ISN'T ENOUGH TO COVER, AND WE USE IT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THEN I WANT TO REVISIT, AND WHAT ARE WE USING IT FOR? BECAUSE I SUBMIT THAT, UH,

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ROADWAY MAINTENANCE IS IMPORTANT, AND THOSE THAT MAY NOT KNOW THIS, WHERE WE HAVE BEEN FALLING BEHIND IN STREET RESURFACING WORK.

RESURFACING INTERVALS HAVE INCREASED FROM 15 YEARS AGO, FROM 15 YEARS, YEARS AGO. AND I USED TO ARGUE WITH THE FIRST ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR THAT WAS HERE. WHEN HE SAID 15 YEARS, IS IT GOING TO LAST LONGER TO DO IT CONDITION-BASED? WE RECENTLY LEARNED FROM AN ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR THAT THE AVERAGE NOW IS TO GO TO 25 YEARS. SO WE'VE MOVED OVER TIME ABOUT AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN, AND YOU GO BEYOND THAT.

IN MY OPINION, AND I THINK IT'S IN HIS OPINION, THAT FURTHER INCREASE INTERVALS WILL INCREASE OVERALL COSTS AND LEAD TO INCREASES IN STREET POTHOLING.

SO I JUST THINK THAT'S NOT ONE I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH PAUSING. AND I LOOK AT, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE GET A LIST, AND I KNOW, I THINK COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM MAY BE DOING THIS AS WELL, AND WE'VE BEEN SLIPPING PROJECTS THAT WERE SCHEDULED, YOU KNOW, BEYOND, AND IT'S OKAY, BUT WE REALLY CAN'T. YOU KNOW, PROCEED WITH THAT. SO WE REALLY NEED TO, AND YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS, IS THAT OUR SCOPE OF STREETS THAT WE OWN AND HAVE TO MAINTAIN HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY, AND WE'VE NEVER MAINTAINED THEM. IT NEVER WAS IN OUR BUDGET. TAKE ABACOA, FOR EXAMPLE, NEVER WAS IN OUR BUDGET. NOW ALL THOSE STREETS ARE BEGINNING TO APPROACH THE 25-YEAR MARK AND HAVE TO BE DONE. SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ONE BEING PAUSED.

I AGREE ON THAT ONE. I'M OKAY WITH IT BEING PAUSED RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 33 DAYS BETWEEN OCTOBER 1ST. NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT TO SOME DEGREE, A PAUSE... I THINK WE HAVE TO RETHINK THAT WHOLE THING, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF IT. NO, BUT I HOPE ONES THAT WE LEAVE ON PAUSE WILL BE THE FIRST ONES WE'VE SOMEWHAT KIND OF ACCEPTED THAT, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT ONE AS PAUSED BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY THEN DIGGING HOLES FOR OURSELVES HERE. I PUT THAT IN WITH THE TOWN-WIDE SIDEWALK R&R. I THINK THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

AND THEN THERE'S A LEGACY PROJECT THAT'S BEING COMPLETED RIGHT NOW.

I SENT A NOTE IN CONVERSATION WITH MR. REYNOLDS ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP. AND IT JUST GOES TO HOW WE USED TO DO THINGS.

A PROJECT THAT WAS IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT IT'S NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION, E1901, WHICH IS JUPITER PARK DRIVE AT CENTRAL BOULEVARD. THAT PROJECT WAS FUNDED BY $1.2 MILLION IN GENERAL REVENUES, $63,000 IN ROAD IMPACT FEES, AND $49,000 FROM AN ESCROW CONTRIBUTION THAT I RECOLLECT GETTING FROM A DEVELOPER 20 YEARS AGO. BUT IN RETROSPECT, THAT TYPE OF PROJECT REPRESENTS THE TYPE OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY USE OF ROAD IMPACT FEES. AND TO THE DEGREE THAT ALL THE...

PAYMENTS HAVE NOT YET OCCURRED AND IT COULD STILL BE EASY TO DO. YOU KNOW, MY ASK IS TO USE EVERY LAST ROAD IMPACT FEE THAT WE HAVE IN THE ACCOUNT AND NOT DEPLOY GENERAL REVENUES.

BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE WORLD WE HAVE BEEN IN IS WE KIND OF JUST ONLY WENT TO THE POT OF ROAD IMPACT FEES, WHICH ARE NEVER ENOUGH. SO WE ALWAYS WENT TO GENERAL REVENUES AND WE HAVE TO REALLY CHANGE OUR WAY OF THINKING. IT CAN BE EMPTY AND IT SHOULD BE EMPTY, RIGHT, IF THERE ISN'T ENOUGH. THE ROAD IMPACT FEE FUND IS DWINDLING OVER TIME. I KNOW IT IS.

BECAUSE WE'RE NEAR BUILD OUT.

BUT ON THIS ONE, ONCE YOU GET DONE BOOKING THE PAYMENTS, THEN THE GENERAL IS GONE FOREVER. SO MY ASK IS JUST USE UP EVERY LAST ROAD IMPACT FEE ON THAT PROJECT WHICH TRULY QUALIFIES. AGAIN, WE'RE IN THE HUNT FOR DOING ANYTHING WE CAN TO IMPROVE OUR FUND BALANCE RESERVE, RIGHT? I THINK THAT WAS IT.

TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION PORTION OF WHAT'S BEEN SCORED TO CONTINUE. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE INDIAN CREEK PARK RESTROOM BUILDING. IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THERE'S $4,481 REMAINING THAT'S UNENCUMBERED THERE. THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, THAT'S ACTUALLY FUNDED BY CDBG FUNDING, $24,000. THAT SHOULD BE DONE BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

THE RENOVATION AT MARLINS QUAD AND ROGER DEAN STADIUM, THAT'S BEEN FLAGGED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE STADIUM. THAT'S SURTAX

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FUNDING, SO THAT WAS FLAGGED TO CONTINUE FOR THOSE REASONS PROPORTIONALLY. THE A1A BEACH SHOWER, WE RECEIVED A STATE APPROPRIATION. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

ALSO THE FLOODING THAT'S OCCURRING ON A1A AS WATER ACCUMULATES THERE, THAT WAS ALSO SCORED TO CONTINUE.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE DRAINS TOO, RIGHT? YES. ONE QUESTION ON THAT. SO ON THE A1A SHOWER REPLACEMENTS, AND AGAIN, IN THE DETAIL IN THAT REPORT, I THINK WE GOT OUR STATE APPROPRIATION WAS FOR WHAT MOVED FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING, DOES THAT MEAN NOW WE CAN ADD AND DO MORE THAN TWO THIS YEAR? WE COULD. THAT'S NOT HOW THE FUNDING WAS SET UP. NO, BUT IF THE FUNDING IS THERE TO DO IT, SOMETIMES IT'S EFFICIENT IF YOU DO MORE. THE SAME KIND OF THING. JUST ASKING ON THAT. WE COULD. WE COULD, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WISHES TO SEE. WELL, I MEAN, TO SOME DEGREE, THAT'S STAFF'S WAY OF THINKING, I WOULD HOPE, IS LIKE, IF YOU BUNDLE UP WORK, SOMETIMES YOU CAN SAVE MONEY DOING IT INSTEAD OF DOING TWO. JUST TO THE DEGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE FUNDING, WHICH IS GREAT. I DO HAVE TO SAY, IN TERMS OF STATE APPROPRIATIONS, THIS IS A VERY ATTRACTIVE ITEM TO RECEIVE FUTURE APPROPRIATIONS ON, AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS LEAD TO THAT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE REQUEST IS. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT RECREATION, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MUCH MORE POPULAR ITEM THAN FIELD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY SHARED BY A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.

SO THE PAUSE LIST YOU CAN SEE IS MUCH LARGER THAN THE CONTINUATION LIST FOR RECREATION. THE PRIMARY DRIVER WITH RECREATION IS THE FUNDING TYPE. IT'S MAINLY ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AD VALOREM DOLLARS. YOU CAN SEE THAT ACROSS MANY JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE DOING THE SAME EXERCISES WE ARE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR PARKS AND RECREATION AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE.

FOR THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY. SO YOU CAN SEE THE COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION AND REHAB.

THIS IS LEGACY FUNDING WITH SOME FUTURE FUNDING THAT'S CURRENTLY UNOBLIGATED.

RECEIVED A SCORE OF 4 AND ALSO BEING REQUESTED TO BE PAUSED.

THE PARKS AND RESTORATION PROGRAM PLANNING IS CURRENTLY IN THE PLANNING PHASES WITH FUTURE FUNDING CURRENTLY UNOBLIGATED. IT ALSO RECEIVED A SCORE OF 3.75. THE JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK RENOVATIONS, THE PROJECT IS REALLY COMPLETE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO POSSIBLY REALLOCATE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ATHLETIC FIELDS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S SURTAX FUNDS, WE'RE POSSIBLY LOOKING TO ALLEVIATE SOME DOLLARS THAT MAY COME OUT OF THE RESERVES FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO MAKE UP FOR THAT TRANSFER FOR OTHER PROJECTS. PLAYGROUND RESTORATION. FUTURE FUNDING ARE UNOBLIGATED BUT WE DO HAVE A SPLASH PAD I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SPLASH PAD THAT'S PART OF THAT RESTORATION PROJECT THAT'S 3.5 MILLION DOLLARS CURRENTLY UNOBLIGATED AT THIS POINT STILL JUST IN THE PLANNING PHASE THAT'S BEEN FLAGGED THE FOR A PAUSE THE CIVIC CENTER RENOVATIONS ONE THING I WILL SAY ABOUT THE CIVIC CENTER IT'S BEEN FLAGGED FOR PAUSE, THESE RENOVATIONS.

PHASE 1 HAS BEEN COMPLETE.

PHASE 2 IS IN THE PLANNING PHASE. THE CIVIC CENTER DOES CREATE REVENUE FOR THE TOWN. I WILL SAY THAT.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE IT'S BEEN FLAGGED FOR PAUSE BECAUSE IT IS FULLY AD VALOREM FUNDED. BUT IT DOES GENERATE SOME REVENUE FOR THE TOWN.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD? YES, MA'AM. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CIVIC CENTER RIGHT NOW THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH IT BEING USED? AS MUCH AS IT IS. AND AGAIN, REVENUE SOURCE. I'M SORRY. IS THERE ANY SAFETY ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE CIVIC CENTER RIGHT NOW? ANY OF THE WOOD? I'M CONCERNED. I THINK WE'VE DONE THOSE.

NO? NO, MA'AM. NO? MIKE HOFFMAN, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. THERE ARE NO SAFETY ISSUES AT THE CIVIC CENTER. OKAY, THAT'S IMPORTANT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THE ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK RENOVATIONS, IT'S SOON

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TO BE UNDER CONTRACT.

THAT'S ALSO BEEN FLAGGED AS A PAUSE, EVEN THOUGH THAT PARK IS SOON TO BE UNDER CONTRACT BECAUSE IT IS SOLELY FUNDED BY AD VALOREM DOLLARS. THE ATHLETIC FIELD REPAIRS AND RESTORATION, IT'S UNDER THE PLANNING PHASE.

FUTURE FUNDING IS CURRENTLY UNOBLIGATED. $4.5 MILLION IN AD VALOREM DOLLARS.

LIGHTHOUSE PARK, MAPLEWOOD PARK, AND INDIAN CREEK PARK, THOSE ARE FUTURE OBLIGATIONS.

THOSE HAVE JUST BEEN ADDED TO THE CIP THIS YEAR. THOSE HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE PAUSE LIST AS WELL, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE FUNDING SOURCE OF AD VALOREM DOLLARS. SCOTT, CAN I JUST BRING UP, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE SPRAY GROUND AND RESERVE FUNDING. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT OVER THIS LAST WEEK. CAN YOU SHARE WHAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER MORE RECENTLY? SURE.

THE SPRAY GROUND OR THE SPLASH PAD, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S CALLED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THE FUNDING OF THE...

IT WAS PUT INTO THE CIP IN FY26.

THE INTENTION WAS THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION COMING FROM THE RESERVES TO HELP FUND THAT PROJECT.

IT'S NOT JUST A SPLASH PAD.

THERE'S OTHER ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT PROJECT.

THERE WOULD BE A MILLION-DOLLAR TRANSFER COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN FUND THAT PROJECT AND ALSO... NOT DO THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT, NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE SOME ROLL DOLLARS THAT'S AVAILABLE, THAT CONTINGENCY MONEY AND STUFF OVER WITHIN THAT PROJECT THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW THE MAYOR, YOU WERE AN ADVOCATE OF DOING THAT. AND ALSO, WE HAVE $350,000 THAT'S CURRENTLY PLANNED IN AD VALOREM DOLLARS TO FUND THAT. AND WE HAVE SOME SURTAX FUNDING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY... UTILIZE OF $829,000, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS, FROM THE JCP PROJECT THAT'S WRAPPED UP THAT WE CAN POINT TOWARDS THAT PROJECT. SO WE'VE MADE UP FOR THE DOLLARS THAT WOULD HAVE CAME FROM THE GENERAL FUND IF THIS SPLASH PAD PROJECT, MEANING THAT THERE'S OTHER ELEMENTS TO IT BESIDES JUST THE SPLASH PAD, IF YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE ON WITH THAT, WE DID FIND OTHER ELEMENTS.

THERE IS SOME AD VALOREM DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT VERY MINIMAL. SO I DO WANT TO SAY, I UNDERSTAND THE SURTAX, IT'S LIMITED TO CAPITAL, CAN'T BE USED FOR DIRT, CAN'T BE USED FOR FIELDS. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE THE $829 IS COMING FROM.

I DO JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE OF THIS. I'M FINE WITH ALL OF THIS. I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE SCORES. I THINK THESE ARE NICE TO HAVE. BUT ON THE SPLASH PAD, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. THIS IS KIND OF COMPLETING THE INDIAN CREEK PARK. WE HAVE STATED PUBLICLY MANY TIMES THAT WE'RE DOING IT. IT'S IN THE PRESS, IT'S ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S MAILED TO RESIDENTS MANY TIMES. SO I THINK, I MEAN, THIS IS ONE, ESPECIALLY NOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO USE SURTAX FUNDING AND NOT PULL FROM RESERVES, IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THAT IS ONE THAT I WOULD WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR, JUST TO KIND OF COMPLETE SOMETHING THAT WE... STARTED A LONG TIME AGO AND I KNOW THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE DONE IN 26 AND WAS DELAYED SO I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE IT COME TOGETHER AND THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY ON THAT BUT ON THE REST OF IT I AGREE I THINK WE NEED TO PAUSE THESE AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB YOU KNOW I THINK I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE FIELDS THAT WE HAVE AND THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE HAVE AND WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW BUT THEY DO DESERVE THESE HIGHER SCORES AGAIN IT'S JUST FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THINGS GO.

BUT WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON ROADS AND ON THESE OTHER PRIORITIES IF IT COMES TO IT WITH AMENDMENT 3. SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO FINANCE THESE, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

SO THANK YOU. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT YOU POINTED OUT WITH THAT EXERCISE WAS THAT THE MILLION DOLLARS IN RESERVE FUNDING WOULD NOT BE NEEDED COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THAT'S A SAVINGS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET AD VALOREM-TYPE FUNDED ITEMS IN THIS EXERCISE. SO WE CREATED A SAVINGS, THIS IS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, OF THE MILLION DOLLARS WITHIN THE RESERVE BALANCE.

AND YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED HARD ON THAT AND THERE'S BEEN SOME SCOPE REDUCTION TOO. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THAT THIS WEEK. I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, BUT I THINK THE WAY I CAN EMPHASIZE MY LOGIC, I WANT TO JUST SHARE A PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S INTERESTING AND I ENCOURAGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES

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TO DO THIS, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, GO TO JCP, OBSERVE THE FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE.

IT'S INTERESTING, IN THIS CIP AND IN THE PROGRAM, THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS, COMPLEXES, ARE SUBJECT, ARE PLANNED, IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, IF WE WEREN'T PAUSING, TO REPLACE BLEACHERS AND SHADE STRUCTURES.

YOU GO OUT TO THE BASEBALL FIELDS. OH MY GOSH, FIRST OF ALL, THE WAY BASEBALL FIELDS WERE LOCATED, THERE'S MATURE TREES.

I'M JEALOUS ABOUT THIS, THE AMENITIES THAT EXIST. IF YOU WERE SOMEBODY WHO USES THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS, THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS IN OUR TOWN, IN ALL THE LOCATIONS, SHOEHORNED IN IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, OKAY? YOU GO TO ANY OTHER PARK, WHICH I'VE GONE TO A NUMBER OF THEM, THEY WEREN'T SHOEHORNED IN.

YOU GO TO LIGHTHOUSE PARK AND THERE'S A MINIMUM SPACE BETWEEN FIELDS THAT YOU HAVE TO SQUEEZE DOWN EITHER ON ONE SIDE IF YOU'RE A PARENT FAN OR ON THE OTHER SIDE THE TEAM.

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO SHADE.

GO THERE AT 2 O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON AND SEE. IT IS DEAD HEAT, SUNLIGHT. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE BENCHES FOR EVERYONE THAT AT LEAST ARE OUT ON THE FIELDS. I MADE THIS AT ASK FOR THE AS WE WERE STARTING TO DO THE WORK ON THE FIRST TWO MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS WERE DOING AND YOU KNOW WE WERE LOOKING AND WORKING WITH STAFF AND I THINK YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THIS BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT JTAA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CAME UP WITH A VERY PRACTICAL LOW BUDGET SOLUTION TWO OF WHICH ARE SITTING OUT IN THE OPEN MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS RIGHT NOW AT JCP.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AND DO IT. WOW, A BENCH WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SHADE.

MY SUGGESTION IS, NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO DO THAT IN EVERY MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.

AND I'VE ASKED, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD YET BECAUSE I JUST ASKED, BUT HOW MUCH IS THE COST TO JUST GO AHEAD AND BUY A BUNCH OF THEM, PUT THEM BY THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS AT JCP, LIGHTHOUSE, MAPLEWOOD, RIGHT? I MEAN, IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, MAYBE WE NEVER, AND I OWN THIS, BUT ALL THESE YEARS WE'VE DONE NOTHING.

YOU OUGHT TO JUST SEE THE PARENTS AND WHATEVER, THEY GOT TO DRAG OUT, YOU KNOW, TAILGATE TENTS AND WHATEVER TO GIVE SHADE FOR THE KIDS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S GOT TO STOP, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND TO JUST THINK ABOUT IT IS, WE'RE EVEN IN OUR PLAN, I THINK WE'VE FORGOTTEN, THEY'VE BEEN NEGLECTED, IT'S TIME TO CORRECT THAT. JUST LOOK AT THE BASEBALL, AND I'M NOT SAYING THINGS NEED TO BE DONE, BUT OH MY GOSH. SO I'M EXCITED, CONCEDING THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET BLEACHERS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET BLEACHERS WHEN YOU'VE GOT 10 FIELDS SHOEHORNED IN TOGETHER, OR MAYBE ALONG THE PERIMETER, BUT A JCP ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT YOU COULD GET A FEW MORE OF THOSE LOW-COST.

AND SO MY ASK IS THAT OUGHT TO BE A PRIORITY. LET'S FURNISH THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS WITH THAT. NOW, THINK ABOUT IT. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS HUGE PROGRAM, SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PUT SHADE, WHICH WE ALREADY HAD IN OUR STADIUMS, YOU KNOW, COMPLEXES, SOFTBALL, BASEBALL. WE NOW HAVE IT IN MOST OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS, BUT WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN. SO THAT'S A LOW-BUDGET SOLUTION. SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THAT. NUMBER TWO, WHEN YOU GO TO JCP, EVEN IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, IF I GIVE YOU A COMPLEX NUMBER OR A FIELD NUMBER, HOW WOULD YOU EVEN KNOW TO GET THERE? YOU DRIVE IN THE ROAD, THERE IS NO WAYFINDING SIGNAGE.

THAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY BEING WORKED ON AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A NEW STANDARD AND IT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT TO ME, THAT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TO VISITORS THAT COME, GRANDPARENTS OR WHATEVER THAT GO TO A GAME, THE ONLY WAY YOU KNOW IS YOU LOOK FOR A CAR YOU RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY, MANY PARKING. SO, I MEAN, THESE ARE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PAUSING, I'M OK WITH, YOU KNOW, DOING PAUSING. BUT THAT THOSE MINIMAL AMENITIES SHOULD BE LIKE A BASIC NECESSITY TO PROVIDE, SO I HOPE I GET SUPPORT ON DOING THAT. AND THEN MY FEELING ON THE SPLASH PAD IS, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ALSO I CAN RELATE TO THIS AS OTHERS, IS YOU SHOULD TAKE OUR GRANDKIDS.

YOU KNOW, UP AT TEQUESTA, TEQUESTA HAD THE SHADED PARK, THAT AND DOWN THE GARDENS THAT WE HAD NONE. AND NOW WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INVENTORY OF PLAYGROUNDS THAT HAVE SHADED STRUCTURES THAT WE'VE DONE TO THE TUNE OF FIVE OR SIX MILLION BUCKS.

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SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH PAUSING BECAUSE WE'RE PAUSING IF, IN FACT, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT TO SUPPORT THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS IN THE VOTE FOR THE REFERENDUM. AND THE SPLASH PAD IS GETTING INTO A NEW TYPE OF AMENITY.

AND YES, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT PAUSING. BUT IT ALSO, WE CAN START GETTING INTO THAT. IT ALSO HAS TO, THERE HAS TO BE MORE IMPACT ON OUR STAFF. YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A, I MEAN, IT'S DIFFERENT, RIGHT? SO I'M JUST, I THINK WE OUGHT TO JUST PAUSE ON THAT ONE AND SEE HOW IT GOES. MAINTENANCE-WISE? WHAT'S THAT? MAINTENANCE-WISE ON THE SPLASH PAD? I MEAN, SPLASH PAD IS A WHOLE, AND YES, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF IN THIS REFERENDUM.

WE'VE DONE MORE THAN TALK ABOUT IT. I MEAN, WE HAVE TOLD PEOPLE IT'S HAPPENING. WE'VE DONE THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT'S NOT JUST IN A PLAN. I UNDERSTAND. IT'S IN THE PRESS. WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE COMING.

AND IF WE ADD SHADE TO BLEACHERS, WHICH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH, I'M ALL FOR ALL RECREATION, AND I'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE RECREATION MASTER PLAN, BUT THAT'S NEW SCOPE AS WELL.

AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE MORE SUPPORT FOR SHADE AND GENERALLY, OR GENERALLY, BUT THOSE ARE NEW, THOSE ARE ADDITIONS THAT WEREN'T DISCUSSED UNTIL VERY RECENTLY.

WHEREAS THIS HAS BEEN, I MEAN, SINCE COUNCIL HAS CHANGED, LIKE WE HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WE'VE VERY PUBLICLY COMMITTED TO IT. WE'VE DONE IT IN OUR RECREATION NEWSLETTER THAT WE'VE MAILED TO RESIDENTS. THE PRESS HAS WRITTEN SEVERAL ARTICLES SAYING IT'S COMING.

JUST LAST MONTH, WE'VE HAD SOCIAL MEDIA ENGAGEMENT WITH RESIDENTS WHO ARE EXCITED AND EXPECTING IT.

WE HAVE CREATED A VERY CLEAR EXPECTATION FOR THIS, AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT SEPARATES IT FROM OTHERS. IT'S ALSO DESIGNED OR CLOSE TO THE END OF DESIGN, SO THIS IS SHOVEL-READY. SO IT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I PAUSE ON IT. I'M ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH ALL THE REST OF IT. I AGREE. I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FULL-TIME TO FUTURE. I THINK PLAYGROUNDS WE HAVE ENOUGH, I AGREE. I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO FINISH WHAT WE STARTED AND KEEP OUR PROMISE THERE. I THINK THAT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT GIVEN HOW PUBLIC IT'S BEEN FOR A LONG TIME. AND I SEE THE SPLASH PAD AS A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO OUR KIDS. RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO TO JCP, WHICH I TAKE MY GRANDDAUGHTER ALL THE TIME, IT IS VERY HOT. THERE'S PROBABLY NO MORE THAN TWO OR THREE PEOPLE IN THESE PLAYGROUNDS BECAUSE IT IS HOT.

TOO HOT. THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE.

BUT THERE'S NO PLACE FOR OUR KIDS TO GO LIKE A SPLASH PAD IN THE SUMMERTIME, UNLESS THEY GO ALL THE WAY OUT OF THE GARDENS. I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN TOWN.

WE'VE ADVOCATED FOR SOME WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORTING A SPLASH PAD. YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS, LIKE THE PAVILION, THE SHADED STRUCTURES, THE LANDSCAPING.

MAYBE THOSE COULD BE PAUSED, BUT JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SPLASH PAD, WHAT I PREFER.

I AGREE. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT THE MAYOR SAID RELATIVE TO THE SHADE STRUCTURES AND JCP.

THEY'RE DESPERATELY NEEDED, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SPLASH PAD GO FORWARD. WELL, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON ALL OF IT, WE'VE ONLY GOT A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION. THIS CAN COME BACK. I THINK WE NEED EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE OFFERED, SUGGESTED. YES, THE SPLASH PAD'S IN THE PROCESS. WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS MAINTENANCE AFTER IT'S INSTALLED, AND I'M SURE OUR STAFF HAS DONE THAT, COME TO ON OTHER CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE'VE ONLY GOT A FEW MONTHS.

SO I THINK STRUCTURES, SUNSHADES IN ALL OF OUR PARKS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

BUT I THINK IT JUST HAS TO WAIT. AGAIN, A FEW MONTHS IS NOT THAT LONG, AND THIS LIST IS GOING TO CHANGE.

I HEAR 3-2 ON THAT. SO HOW MUCH IS THE SPLASH PAD? I THINK THE WHOLE PROJECT, AND MIKE CAN CONFIRM, I THINK THE WHOLE PROJECT IS JUST LESS THAN $2 MILLION. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND, BUT IF SOMEONE'S ADVOCATING FOR JUST A SPLASH PAD, I MEAN, I HOPE... WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR A SPLASH PAD. NO, THE PAVILION WAS PART OF THAT.

NO, NO, THERE'S MULTIPLE ELEMENTS TO IT BESIDES JUST THE SPLASH PAD.

SO THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE SPLASH PAD IS A LITTLE OVER $1.5 MILLION, AND IF WE WERE TO INCORPORATE THE PARKING LOT, THAT'S A LITTLE OVER $300,000. $1.5 MILLION FOR THE SPLASH PAD? WELL, IT'S, AGAIN, INCORPORATING THE SHADE STRUCTURES, THE PAVILION, AND ALSO THE LANDSCAPING AROUND IT.

OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SUPPORT IT, AND IF THE THREE DO, AND IT'S THREE TO TWO, FINE, BUT OH MY GOSH.

I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT ON YOUR PARKS RESTORATION PROGRAM, THAT R-1301.

PART OF THAT CIP PROJECT INCLUDES, ON PAGE 27, TEN NEW

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AEDS AND STOP THE BLEED KITS.

CAN WE CARVE THAT OUT AND STILL GO FORWARD WITH THOSE KITS? I THINK THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT. I KNOW WE'VE PAUSED THE WHOLE THING, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY TO CARVE OUT THOSE KITS? YEAH, WE SURE CAN. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO MAYBE CONSIDER GOING FORWARD WITH THOSE KITS AT THE PARK, SO FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT. NOT A PROBLEM.

OKAY, MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION OF THE CIP, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE FIRE VEHICLE AND APPARATUS.

FY26 IS COMPLETE. WE DO HAVE $1.4 MILLION BEING PROJECTED FROM 2027 TO 2031. IT RECEIVED A SCORE OF 3 AND HAS BEEN FLAGGED TO CONTINUE.

FIRE STATION 13, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER. WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED DESIGN WORK ON THAT AND ARE EXPECTED TO TAKE POSSESSION OF THAT PROPERTY OCTOBER 1ST.

SO THAT WAS ALSO FLAGGED TO CONTINUE. THE POLICE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, THAT WAS FLAGGED TO CONTINUE.

ALSO, THE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE POLICE CARS IS VITAL TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MEETING THEIR EXPECTATIONS. WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF ROLLOVER OF THE FLEET, AND YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP UP WITH THAT ROLLOVER.

OTHERWISE, THE FLEET WILL FALL INTO DISREPAIR AND START FALLING BEHIND. IT COSTS YOU MORE IN THE FUTURE IF YOU DON'T KEEP UP WITH THAT REPLACEMENT CYCLE.

POLICE RADIO SYSTEM REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PUTTING MONEY AWAY EVERY YEAR FOR THAT. YOU CAN SEE WE'VE ACCUMULATED $3.2 MILLION IN LEGACY FUNDING TOWARDS THAT PROJECT. THAT'S GOING TO START COMING INTO FRUITION A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN EXPECTED. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR AREA PARTNERS ON THAT.

SO PROJECTED FUTURE FUNDING IS $2.8 MILLION. TOTAL PROJECT COSTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST OVER $6.2, $6.3 MILLION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

IN FACT, WE'LL BE COMING TO COUNCIL HERE VERY SHORTLY WITH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OR TO EXTEND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSORTIUM AND THEN ULTIMATELY BRINGING A PROJECT RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE FIRE AND FACILITIES RENOVATIONS OF FURNITURE AND FIXTURES OF $148,000. THAT'S NEARING COMPLETION WITH THE TEMPORARY STATION.

ALSO FOR THE STATIONS THEMSELVES, THE POLICE MEMORIAL NEARING COMPLETION, THAT'S $71,000 REMAINING THERE. AND THE TACTICAL VEHICLE WAS ACTUALLY DONATED FUNDS. WE ONLY HAVE $1,300 REMAINING UNENCUMBERED, BUT THAT VEHICLE IS ORDERED AND EXPECTED TO BE COMING ON SITE HERE SHORTLY. SO ALL OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY RECEIVED A SCORING TO CONTINUE. I HAVE A QUESTION ON... MAYOR, IF I COULD, ON THE STATION NUMBERS, I WAS GOING TO WAIT, BUT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT STATION 13. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FIRE CHIEF, AND WE'VE RENUMBERED ONE OF OUR STATIONS. SO INSTEAD OF 10, 12, AND 13, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP 10 ON THE EAST SIDE AT PIATT PLACE. 12 WILL REMAIN AT CINQUEZ. AND WHAT WAS GOING TO BE STATION 13 IS GOING TO BE... STATION 11 AND SO THAT WILL BE THE STATION ON MILITARY TRAIL NOW AND OUR TEMPORARY STATION AT ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK WILL BE STATION 11 SO OUR NUMBERS WILL BE 10 11 AND 12 AND WE'VE GIVEN 13 BACK TO PALM BEACH COUNTY AND WE'RE GIVING THEM THE 16 THEY'LL KEEP THE 16 YEAH WOW YOU'LL SPARE ME FROM HAVING TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHILE THE NUMBERS ARE NOT CONSECUTIVE THANK YOU IT HAS BEEN WHY THE LIFT, MAYOR? YOU THINK THIS PROCESS WAS BIG? YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THAT.

OH, YOU'VE MADE ME HAPPY.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE FIRE VEHICLES AND APPARATUS OF THAT 1.4 MILLION. 1.2 IS A NEW, I BELIEVE, A NEW AMBULANCE AND BRUSH TRUCK. IS THAT A NEW REPLACEMENT? WE'VE GOT FOUR AMBULANCES ALREADY, RIGHT? I'LL LET THE CHIEF TALK ABOUT THAT.

YES, SIR. AMBULANCES CURRENTLY HAVE A THREE-YEAR LEAD TIME.

YOU BUY AN AMBULANCE, THREE YEARS LATER YOU GET IT.

THE AMBULANCES THAT YOU PURCHASED IN, I HOPE I GET THESE DATES RIGHT, OCTOBER OF 2023. SO YOU

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PURCHASED AN AMBULANCE IN OCTOBER OF 2023. THEY JUST ARRIVED IN FLORIDA, AND THE CHASSIS WAS A YEAR OLD BEFORE IT EVEN GOT SENT TO GET MADE. THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A THREE-YEAR-OLD CHASSIS JUST ABOUT RIGHT NOW. WE HAVEN'T USED IT YET.

AND SO WE HAVE TO PURCHASE THESE VEHICLES AHEAD OF TIME, GIVEN THEIR BUILD CYCLES. AND SO THAT AMBULANCE WILL BE ADDED TO OUR FLEET. IT'LL MOVE THE OLDEST VEHICLE OR THE MOST USED VEHICLE INTO RESERVE STATUS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T...

KEEP THESE VEHICLES REPLACED AND RUNNING AND READY. THEY HAVE TO BE OPERATIONALLY READY 24-7 AT ALL TIMES. WE RUN A LOT OF RISK. SO WE HAVE FOUR AMBULANCES RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE FOUR. WE HAVE THREE PLUS A BACKUP. THREE AND A BACKUP. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT FOUR AMBULANCES WILL BE IN SERVICE WHEN THERE'S STAFFING AVAILABLE. WE WON'T PUT OVERTIME ON IT, BUT WHEN THERE'S... PEOPLE THAT AREN'T OFF ON VACATION, SICK TIME, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ALLOW ADDITIONAL STAFFING. WE'LL HAVE ALL FOUR AMBULANCES IN SERVICE, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP ALL FOUR OF THEM RUNNING AND BUSY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING TO COUNCIL A RESERVE AMBULANCE, A BACKUP TO THAT. IF WE LOSE AN AMBULANCE, IF AN AMBULANCE GETS IN AN ACCIDENT, IT'S OUT OF SERVICE, WE STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM. AMBULANCES GO IN FOR MAINTENANCE LIKE EVERY THREE MONTHS, HAVE TO BE OUT OF SERVICE A WEEK AT A TIME. IT'S A CRITICAL FUNCTION. WE JUST CANNOT RUN THE RISK OF NOT HAVING AMBULANCES READY AND AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES. ARE THERE ANY STEPS BEING TAKEN? I HEARD THERE MIGHT BE AN AVAILABILITY OF A DEMO TYPE AMBULANCE TO REDUCE SOME OF THE COST. IS THAT STILL? YEAH, WE'LL BE COMING TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 18TH TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. OKAY. AND MY SECOND QUESTION ON THE BRUSH TRUCK.

WE'VE GOT ONE NOW. IT'S STATIONED AT CINQUEZ AND WE'RE GOING TO STATION ANOTHER ONE AT...

AT 11. AT 11? YES, SIR. IT SEEMS ODD TO PUT A BRUSH TRUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, BUT... SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

I'LL PULL UP A GOOGLE MAP AND SHOW YOU THE ABACOA COMMUNITY.

OKAY. LOOK AT ABACOA FROM THE SKY, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WHAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY CALL OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? OKAY. BUT IT'S WHAT I WOULD CALL IS BRUSH. AND WITH RESIDENTIAL... HOMES THAT ARE IN ZERO LOT LINE HOMES, 10 TO 15 FEET AWAY FROM DENSE BRUSH. AND I THINK OF THE THINGS I WORRY ABOUT, THAT'S ONE I WORRY ABOUT SIGNIFICANTLY. SO IS THIS A REPLACEMENT TRUCK, OR DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE JUST A SECOND TRUCK TO HAVE IT? IT IS A SECOND TRUCK. OKAY. IT SAID REPLACEMENT IN THE, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, WAS IT REALLY A REPLACEMENT OR A SECOND TRUCK? WE DESPERATELY NEED SOME.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KEITH. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP ON THAT. JUST THE THREE-HOUR, THE THREE-YEAR WAIT PERIOD FOR THESE VEHICLES.

IS THIS A POST PANDEMIC PHENOMENON? YEAH. SO IT WAS GRADUALLY INCREASING AS WE WERE REACHING THE PANDEMIC. RIGHT.

GRADUALLY INCREASING. SO TYPICALLY YOU'D BUY A TRUCK.

IT WAS A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. IT WAS HITTING TWO YEARS PRE PANDEMIC. POST PANDEMIC, IT'S THREE, THREE AND A HALF YEARS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND YOU ISSUED YOUR PURCHASE ORDER IN OCTOBER OF 2023. THE TRUCKS JUST PULLED INTO FLORIDA YESTERDAY. WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY IN OCTOBER TO PURCHASE THOSE CHASSIS AHEAD OF TIME. THAT'S WHAT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THEM IN THE TIME FRAME THAT WE ARE.

BUT WE SAW AN OPPORTUNITY AND WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT. I REMEMBER THAT WELL. I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN. SO ON THE CONVERSATION THIS IS A SMALL ITEM BUT ON THE CONVERSATION OF BRUSH TRUCKS YOU KNOW I LIVE ON A PRESERVE I'VE THOUGHT FOREVER ABOUT HAVING TO TURN THE SPRINKLERS ON AND UH, AND GET THE HOSE OUT UH, IF IN FACT THE FIRE STARTS UH, AND SO ANYBODY LIVES ON A PRESERVE YOU KNOW BUT IN ADDITION TO TO THE BRUSH TRUCKS.

ARE STATIONS GOING TO HAVE...

THE SIGNAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE FIRE RISK.

WILDFIRE RISK? YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY INCLUDE THAT.

WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD. I HAD MENTIONED IT TO SOMEBODY ON YOUR STAFF A WHILE BACK, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, MY WIFE AND I, WE WALK A LOT, AND I GO BY STATION 19, AND I ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IT SAYS THE CONDITIONS ARE, RIGHT? SO I DO THINK THAT'S A GOOD PUBLIC SERVICE. I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK SOME OF OUR STATIONS, THOUGH, MAY NOT BE AS VISIBLE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'D PUT IT, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S A GOOD PUBLIC SERVICE. AND THEY CHANGE THE

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DIAL DAILY. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S UNIQUE HERE WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BEEN HERE FOREVER.

AND SO, THEREFORE, THERE'S A CADENCE OF REPLACING CARS THAT MAKES SENSE. AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, THOUGH, ON STAFF VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, AND I WONDERED, LIKE, WE CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE A VEHICLE, I THINK WE PURCHASED ALL NEW, WE CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE A VEHICLE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SO I JUST WONDERED, IN THAT CASE, IS IT JUST LIKE A SINKING FUND? BECAUSE THE FIRST CYCLE, THEY ALMOST ALL MAY REACH THAT AGE. YEAH, WE DIDN'T PURCHASE ALL NEW, IF YOU RECALL. WE DID PURCHASE SOME USED VEHICLES FROM JUPITER INLET COLONY.

OKAY, THANKS FOR THE REMINDER.

BUT IT JUST WAS UNUSUAL TO SEE A FEW STAFF VEHICLE REPLACEMENT THE FIRST YEAR WE GO INTO SERVICE. I KNOW A FEW HAVE BEEN DRIVING AROUND, BUT THOSE, THERE'S NOT LEAD TIME ON MUCH LEAD TIME, CORRECT? THREE TO SIX MONTHS. YEAH.

BUT IT WAS DUE TO THE PURCHASE OF THOSE VEHICLES FROM JUPITER INLET COLONY. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE BOUGHT THREE OF THEM. IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? I DIDN'T KNOW. YOU'RE REMINDING ME OF THAT. I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT. OKAY. SO WE BOUGHT THREE OF THEM. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THREE. AND THEN BEYOND THAT, 2031, 2031.

SO THEY'RE NEARING THE END OF LIFE. WE'LL START GETTING INTO A SEQUENCE LIKE OUR POLICE DO WHERE YOU LOOK AT THE AGE AND MILEAGE ON IT AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY GO BACK THROUGH SOME OF MY NOTES TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR WITH WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING.

GOING BACK TO THE VERY FIRST PART OF THE LIST, THE COLLECTOR ROADWAY LIGHTING PROJECT. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY PAUSING THAT PROJECT INSTEAD OF CONTINUING. I THINK, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO, I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I KNOW OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE RATING SYSTEM. AND I WOULD WANT TO KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT HAS THREE ONES, THOSE ARE HIGHEST PRIORITY. SO I'D WANT MORE DETAIL THERE. BUT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE. I KNOW THE MAYOR WAS SPEAKING ABOUT COLLECTOR ROADWAY LIGHTING.

ONE MAY BE IN PROCESS. THAT MAY BE THE LEGAL CATEGORY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. BUT IF THERE IS ANOTHER THAT HAS NOT BEGUN, I WOULD AGREE WITH PAUSING THAT. IS THE WRITE-UP SHOWING TWO ROADWAYS LEFT? SO THE ASSUMPTION IS ONE IS IN PROGRESS. RIGHT. SO IF THAT IS CORRECT, IF THAT'S THE ASSUMPTION, THEN I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE SECOND PART.

OKAY. SO AN AGREEMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE. I AGREE WITH THAT. I AGREE. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE SCORES.

ONE WAS FOR THE TOWN-WIDE SIDEWALK R&R.

THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION CHANGED FROM A 5 TO A 1.

YEAH, WELL, I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY. THAT'S HOW I SCORED IT FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY. I'D LIKE FOR THE TOWN TO GO BACK AND RE-EVALUATE THAT. OKAY. IS THIS DOCUMENT GOING TO CEASE TO EXIST, THOUGH? NO, I MEAN, THIS TABLE, IS IT GOING TO CEASE TO EXIST NOWHERE? NO, SIR. WE WILL ACTUALLY, ONCE WE SOLIDIFY THE SCORES, AND WE WILL ACTUALLY POST THOSE AND HAVE THEM AVAILABLE GOING FORWARD. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT, BUT I DON'T, I SCORE DIFFERENTLY. YEAH, I AGREE. I THINK THE SCORING IS A BIT DIFFICULT. I THINK IT'S USEFUL AS A TOOL FOR US UP HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.

THE ACTUAL, WHAT WILL BE POSTED WILL BE THE EITHER PAUSE OR CONTINUE. OKAY. NOT NECESSARILY THE SCORE. AND I SUGGEST A SCORE THAT SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE. WE DON'T WANT EVERYBODY DEBATING ABOUT THE SCORE. WE STILL MADE A JUDGMENT IN CONVERSATION.

IT'S A YES OR NO, PAUSE OR CONTINUE. IT'S A DECISION-MAKING TOOL FOR THIS BODY. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A WEBSITE. RIGHT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE SPECIFICALLY STATED THEY WANTED A SPECIFIC SCORE CHANGED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO RECOGNIZE THAT.

YEAH, I WANTED THAT CHANGED ON TWO OF THEM. ONE WAS THE SIDEWALK R&R, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS THE SIGNAL AT TONEY PENNA AND CENTRAL BOULEVARD. OKAY. I AGREE. YES. THE OTHER ONE STILL, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WILL STAY ON THE CONTINUED LIST, WHICH IS THE JUPITER BEACH SHORELINE PROTECTION, BUT WITH INSTRUCTIONS THAT WE ARE TO POSSIBLY SEEK IF THERE IS

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OTHER FUNDING AVAILABLE FROM OTHER AGENCIES. AND LET US KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT IS THAT'S COMING UP NEXT YEAR. I'M KIND OF STUNNED TO HEAR THAT.

BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE INTERVAL WAS LONGER. SO IN ONE RESPECT IT'S GOOD NEWS.

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE LINE OF SIGHT TO A PROJECT WHEN THE COUNTY DECIDES IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND THEN WHEN WE KNOW THAT THEN WE CAN SEEK FUNDING ASSISTANCE IN LIEU OF USING OUR MONEY.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE SAWFISH BAY SEAWALL HISTORIC ENVIRONMENTAL.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION AROUND PAUSING THAT PROJECT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE APPLYING FOR GRANT FUNDING OR JUST WAIT UNTIL WE RECEIVE THE GRANT FUNDS. I THINK THE WAY WE LEFT IT IS IT'S EFFECTIVELY PAUSED SUBJECT TO GETTING GRANT FUNDING. BUT WE'LL GET THAT RESPONSE PRETTY QUICKLY. YOU'RE SAYING DECEMBER WE MAY... TO THE DEGREE THAT SOMETIMES WE LOSE SIGHT OF THAT WHEN WE DON'T GET GRANT FUNDING AND THE PROJECT IS CATEGORIZED AS... OKAY, WE'LL MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.

THAT ONE YOU HEARD FROM OUR ENGINEERING DIRECTOR AND MYSELF. IT'S NOT URGENT. IF IT DOESN'T GET FUNDING, IT COULD BE DEFERRED. BUT THEN THERE'S A LESSON LEARNED IN THAT, TOO, AS WE GO FORWARD WITH FUTURE STATE APPROPRIATIONS REQUESTS THAT WE LOOK CAREFULLY AT WHAT WE REQUEST. AGREED.

YEAH. BUT, YEP. WE'LL KEEP THAT ON THE, DO YOU WANT TO PAUSE IT OR CONTINUE? WELL, WHAT IS THE FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT? THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT IS...

IS IT, NO, I THINK IT'S A FDEP GRANT AND IT'S NOT A STATE APPROPRIATION? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S A GRANT. SO IT'S A GRANT.

THERE IS A... THERE WAS THE SMALLER PORTION THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE STATE APPROPRIATION AND FOR THE DRAINAGE OVER ON THE FDOT RIGHT-OF-WAY. BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS GRANT FUNDED, A LARGE PORTION OF IT, WHICH IS THE, YOU KNOW, BIG DOLLARS. THE 1.7. A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS, YEAH. RIGHT.

SO THE IDEA OF THE SCORING WAS THAT IT WILL CONTINUE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO GO AHEAD, SUBMIT THE GRANT APPLICATION, AND CONTINUE TO SEEK GRANT FUNDING. AND WE CAN SHOW THAT IT'S WITHIN THE CIP OF THE TOWN, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE THAT. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. AND I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THIS COUNCIL IF, IN FACT, THEY COME BACK AND ONLY GIVE HALF THE GRANT WE EXPECTED. ARE WE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT? THAT'S CLEARLY UP TO THE COUNCIL. I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S POSSIBLE. BUT IN MY MIND, THERE'S NO URGENCY. SO I MAY BE IN THE MINORITY, AS I OFTEN AM. IF YOU GET HALF OF THE GRANT, YOU LEVERAGE THE GRANT. I UNDERSTAND.

YOU MAY NEVER GET IT AGAIN. I THINK WE CHANGED COURSE ON PROJECTS BEFORE. I'VE SEEN THIS COUNCIL WITH EAST INDIANTOWN ROAD AS AN EXAMPLE. AND COSTS CAN GO UP AND SEA WALLS ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. CORRECT.

AND IT AIN'T COMING DOWN. NO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD BE IN THE MINORITY.

OKAY. I THINK I'M HEARING CONSENSUS ON THAT TO KEEP IT IN THE CONTINUE CATEGORY.

THE NEXT PAGE RELATING TO THE PAUSE CATEGORY, I'M HEARING THAT MAYBE THE STREET RESURFACING, THERE WAS SOME AGREEANCE ON CONTINUING WITH THE STREET RESURFACING AND NOT KEEPING THAT AS A PAUSE. OKAY. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE SIDEWALKS.

I HEARD THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE ON ALSO CHANGING THAT TO A CONTINUANCE AND NOT A PAUSE.

YES. OKAY. GREAT.

FOR THIS ONE, THE A1A BEACH SHOWER REPLACEMENT LOOKED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL PROJECT OR SHOWER, BEING THAT WE DID RECEIVE THE STATE APPROPRIATION FOR THAT ONE. SO CONTINUE, BUT SEE IF WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL SHOWER REPLACEMENT. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM THAT.

NEXT ONE, THE PLAYGROUND RESTORATION SPLASH PAD. I HEARD THAT IT SEEMED LIKE I HAD CONSENSUS THAT WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SPLASH PAD PROJECT, AS OUTLINED BY MR. HOFFMAN, WITH THE SPLASH PAD AND THE SURROUNDING LANDSCAPING. IT'S JUST UNDER $2 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT. BUT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT, BUT THE REST OF IT, WE WOULD PAUSE. UM, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE AT JCP ALONG WITH SHADE STRUCTURES AT THE FIELDS. YOU WANT US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE

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INCORPORATED GOING FORWARD AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

BUT AS FAR AS THE TAKING OFF THE PAUSE LIST, THE ONLY THING THAT IS A PARTIAL UNPAUSE OF THE SPLASH PAD PROJECT.

THAT'S WHAT I HEARD ON THAT.

YEP.

OH, AND THE AEDS, I'M SORRY.

THE AEDS, WE WILL MAKE SURE TO OPERATIONALIZE THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THE OPERATIONS BUDGET. YOU HAVE THE AEDS AND THE STOP THE BLEED KITS. CORRECT. THAT WILL BE PUSHED INTO THE OPERATIONAL PHASE SO WE CAN FUND IT FROM OPERATIONS.

AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, THOSE ALL CONTINUED AS SCORED WITH THE ONE CHANGE THERE OF MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UPDATING STATION 13 TO STATION 11 THROUGHOUT THE CIP.

SO BASED ON THE DIRECTION, STAFF WILL UPDATE THE PROJECT LIST AND PROCEED BASED ON THE DIRECTION YOU'VE GIVEN THIS EVENING. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL TAKING THE TIME AND DOING THE EXERCISE. IN SEPTEMBER, COUNCIL WILL ADOPT THE FIVE-YEAR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PLAN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING, THAT THE PROJECTS THAT RECEIVE A PAUSE STATUS WILL NOT PROCEED FORWARD UNTIL AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, AND THEN WE'LL GIVE COUNCIL FURTHER UNTIL COUNCIL GIVES FURTHER DIRECTION. STAFF WILL RETURN TO COUNCIL AFTER NOVEMBER TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL REVENUE IMPACTS AND REVIEW THE LIST THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO COME IN MORE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE OUTCOME OF THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. SO THAT'S A BIG WIN FOR THE TOWN THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME THERE. SO WERE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? JUST A COMMENT AND OBSERVATION, AND I'VE BROUGHT THIS UP IN YEARS PAST, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD MAY BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, SO MAYBE MORE CHANGE MAY BE NEEDED.

IT'S INTERESTING. ONE THING DIFFERENT, A CHALLENGE THAT GOVERNMENT IS SADDLED WITH IS YOU CAN'T ENTER A CONTRACT UNTIL YOU HAVE ALL THE FUNDS.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT IS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

BUT NONETHELESS, I STILL BELIEVE, AND WE DID IMPROVE THIS YEAR, I DID CHECK, BUT WE CARRY OVER AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE DON'T SPEND.

AND AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CARRYING FORWARD $80 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, MONEY THAT'S NOT ENCUMBERED AND SET ASIDE. AND SOME OF IT IS DUE TO UNIQUE PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO HAVE IT. IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT. YOU HAD TO HAVE IT SET ASIDE.

BUT THE OPPORTUNITY, AND I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY HERE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF OUR CIPS, SO YOU TAKE THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, THE AVERAGE SPEND IS ABOUT $10 MILLION. AND THE CARRY FORWARD IS $28 MILLION. SO WE'RE CARRYING FORWARD THREE YEARS WORTH OF WORK.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING IN THAT FIRST YEAR MORE FUNDING. SO IF WE EVER COULD GET TO A PROCESS THAT WE ALMOST COULD... SKIP IT. IN MY MIND, YOU COULD, IF YOU WERE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU'D FIGURE THIS OUT. YOU COULD SKIP A YEAR OF FUNDING BECAUSE IF YOU WOULD JUST NOT, YOU'D BE IN MORE CONSCIOUS OF WHAT YOU'RE FUNDING AND NOT USING. SO IT JUST, I BELIEVE IT MAY BE A SOLUTION HERE IF THIS REFERENDUM PASSES.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO SEE AND ARE JUDGED BY PROJECTS WE BRING TO FRUITION AND, YOU KNOW, THE TIME TO GET IT DONE. I GET IT TAKES TIME AND ALL THAT, BUT I JUST SHARE, JUST THINK ABOUT IT. AND THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE UTILITY, YOU KNOW, NOW IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THERE'S SOME MORE SPEND, ABOUT A 20 MILLION SPEND BECAUSE OF THE ITEMS IN THE OUT YEAR. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CARRYING OVER $52 MILLION. SO AGAIN, I'VE BEEN OBSERVING THAT AND TRYING TO CHANGE IT. AND BY THE WAY, WE MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FROM LAST YEAR. SO WE DID RECOVER SOME, BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE CARRIED FORTH IN TOTAL ABOUT 20 MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN WE DID IN THIS CYCLE. SO WE'RE MAKING AN IMPROVEMENT.

BUT I JUST THREW THAT OUT, THAT WE STILL ARE CARRYING OVER 80 MILLION DOLLARS, AND IT'S NOT A CRITICISM, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. WE FINISHED THE PROJECTS. UH, NO, NO, NO, WE DEFINITELY DID, BUT AND THEY ARE TAKE THE ISLAND WAY SOUTH. WE CHOSE TO FULLY FUND THAT PROJECT AND

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IT'S NOT DONE, SO THAT'S $10 MILLION RIGHT THERE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE. AND POLICE RADIOS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE CHOOSING TO FUND IT ON A YEAR-TO-YEAR BASIS SO THE ACCOUNT BUILDS UP.

BUT IF WE HAD TO REALLY GET CREATIVE AND DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY, WE WOULD TRUST OURSELVES TO NOT BE SAVING IT, BUT THAT'D BE A CHANGE FOR ALL OF US, INCLUDING MYSELF, BUT I JUST WANTED TO OBSERVE THAT. AGAIN, FEEDBACK, WE REALLY MADE AND IMPROVED, BUT WE'RE STILL CARRYING OVER A LOT OF FUNDS THAT WE COULDN'T HAVE USED, WE DIDN'T USE. THERE'LL BE A CHANGE IN PARADIGM. WHAT'S THAT? CHANGE IN PARADIGM. NO, BUT THIS REFERENDUM MAY CAUSE CHANGES IN PARADIGM, RIGHT? SO I'M JUST LOOKING, THINK ABOUT IT. IF IT TURNS OUT WE JUST FOUND EIGHT MILLION A YEAR. IF THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS OUT, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER EIGHT. MAYBE SOME OF THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED BY, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING TO CARRY OVER SO MUCH EACH YEAR, AND THAT MAY GET US A NUMBER OF YEARS FORWARD, RIGHT? JUST A SOLUTION TO CONSIDER.

I'VE OFTEN HAD A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THE CIP BECAUSE IT HAS TO MEET STATUTE. IT'S PRETTY SPECIFIC IN HOW LEGACY PROJECTS ARE PRESENTED, CURRENT PROJECTS ARE PRESENTED. I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO SCOTT AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS, BUT WHY, IF WE'RE WORKING ON A PROJECT, IS IT IN LEGACY AND NOT IN THE CURRENT PROJECT IN FRONT OF YOU? THE WAY A PROJECT MANAGER WOULD LOOK AT THE CIP AND THE WAY A FINANCE DIRECTOR WOULD LOOK AT THE CIP OR STRUCTURE IT, CREATE IT FROM SCRATCH, WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT, I THINK. AND SO JUST EVEN UNDERSTANDING THE CARRY FORWARD AND WHAT THAT MEANS. I MEAN, NOT ALL THE DOLLARS ARE THERE.

OR YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ENCUMBRANCES. SO, I MEAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THAT FIRST.

BUT IT'S TRICKY. I MEAN, I TEND TO LOOK AT IT MORE LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING AS A PROJECT MANAGER. THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED, AND I STRUGGLE WITH THAT.

AND SO I MIGHT SEE DOLLARS THAT AREN'T THERE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE CATEGORIES AND ENCUMBRANCES. AND WE SHOULD I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN PRESENT IT, BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRED TO BE THIS WAY. THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING, IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHEN YOU'RE ADOPTING THE BUDGET, THESE DOLLARS ARE FLUCTUATING ALL THE WAY TO YEAR END, ESPECIALLY THE LEGACY DOLLARS.

RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE TO SHOW THEM IN THE YEAR YOU'RE ADOPTING.

REALLY, WHEN YOU'RE ADOPTING THE CIP, WE SHOW FIVE YEARS, BUT YOU'RE REALLY WHAT YOU'RE ADOPTING IS THAT FY27 AMOUNT.

AND THEN YOU CARRY FORWARD THOSE DOLLARS, WHATEVER IS REMAINING FROM YEAR END, AND THAT'S WHY WE DO THE YEAR END RECONCILIATION, TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO GET YOU TO AUTHORIZE THOSE CARRY-FORWARD DOLLARS BASED ON THOSE PROJECTS, RIGHT? BUT I THINK IT'S JUST FAIR SAYING, LIKE, I WOULD CREATE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DOCUMENT. I WOULD PRESENT IT DIFFERENTLY. I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND. I KNOW THAT'S WHY SOME OF US STRUGGLE WITH IT.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE BUT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING. I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. IT IS GETTING BETTER EVERY YEAR, BUT THAT IS, THAT IS A STRUGGLE, AN ONGOING STRUGGLE. WE DO SEEK COUNCIL'S INPUT WITH THIS DOCUMENT SPECIFICALLY.

WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SOME NEW SOFTWARE, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP COUNCIL, WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEEK INPUT FROM YOU ON HOW WE CAN DO BETTER AND WORK ON THE SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UTILIZING THE SOFTWARE TO ITS FULL EXTENT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T TOO MANY YEARS AGO YOU HAD TO DO A SPECIAL EFFORT TO HUNT AND GET US THE LEGACY PROJECT.

SO NOW THIS YEAR WAS ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT I NOTICED.

IN FACT, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT JUST AVAILABLE BUDGET, IT'S STATUS MORE. BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN COUNCILOR DELANEY ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE DEEP INJECTION WELL, I NOTICED FROM THIS LEGACY PROJECT SUMMARY ON PAGE 59 THAT ITS IN-SERVICE DATE HAD ALREADY SLIPPED FROM 2027 FIRST QUARTER TO FOURTH QUARTER. SO THAT IS THE IN-SERVICE DATE. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PROJECT MANAGEMENT IN THIS THAN HAD BEEN BEFORE, WHICH IS GOOD. SO I APPRECIATE IT. AND THEN WHAT WAS HELPFUL WITH WHAT YOU GAVE US WAS...

THEN WHEN YOU DID THE PRIORITIZATION, YOU GAVE ADDED INFORMATION, VERY SMALL BUT VERY IMPORTANT. TAKE THE BEACH PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SHEET IS A PROJECT THAT'S

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EMERGED, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS WHAT YOU DID, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PRIORITIZATION SHEET WITH STATUS WAS A GRAND SLAM WITH THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, BUT VITAL INFORMATION, I THINK, THAT MAYBE IF THAT HAD BEEN INCLUDED ON THE LEGACY PROJECT ALSO PAGE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THE STATUS. I AGREE. YEAH, AND YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT WE TELL YOU, AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN GETTING, IT HAS ABSOLUTELY GOTTEN SO MUCH BETTER OVER THE RECENT YEARS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS EMAIL AND FOR THE RANKING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD EFFORTS.

IT'S MADE OUR JOB A LITTLE EASIER, I THINK. THAT SOFTWARE WAS A REAL BREAKTHROUGH, I GUESS, ACCORDING TO YOU. I MEAN, ONE SHEET, IT'S REALLY GREAT.

I'VE HEARD SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE FONT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.

BUT EITHER WAY. IT'S NOT TOO SMALL. OKAY. IT WORKS. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY.

THE TIME IS NOW 8:53, AND WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.

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