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IT'S A LITTLE AFTER 7. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE JULY 14TH, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL ROLL SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL CASSATLY.
COMMISSIONER ROBERT GRABOWSKI.
SO WE'VE GOT EVERYONE. SO THE ALTERNATES WILL NOT BE VOTING THIS EVENING. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SUBMIT A GREEN COMMENT CARD TO THE SECRETARY. FIRST OFF, FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS. THESE ARE COMMENTS UNRELATED TO AGENDA ITEMS. BOARD WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING. ANY ISSUES WILL BE NOTED BY STAFF FOR FOLLOW-UP.
AS APPROPRIATE. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO EXPRESS THEIR COMMENTS.
STAFF, ARE THERE ANY COMMENT CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC, OR ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENT CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC.
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OF THE JUNE 9TH, 2026 MINUTES.ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO APPROVED. MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECONDED. I THINK I HEARD IT OVER HERE FROM OKAY, COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, NEXT IS REGULAR AGENDA.
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STAFF, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO, CHAIR.THANKS. CAN THE SECRETARY PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES? THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANTS AND STAFF WHO MAY BE PROVIDING TESTIMONY.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAKING COMMENTS.
PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS MATTER IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. YOU CAN BE SEATED.
THANK YOU. FIRST ORDER FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS 1666
[2.1666 North Old Dixie (Cemex) - A Future Land Use Map amendment to designate the subject property with a General Industrial land use, for a .77+/- acre property located at 1666 N. Old Dixie Hwy. (PZ#26-6867) ]
NORTH OLD DIXIE, C-MEX FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT APPLICATION.APPLICANT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AND GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION. WOULD YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN? FORGOT I'M SHORT. GOOD EVENING.
I'M SHANNON LEE WITH SOUTHERN PLANNING CONSULTANTS REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER, BIG DOG DEVELOPMENT.
THEY RESCUE DOGS, SO QUITE A NICE CHARITY. AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PRESENT THIS APPLICATION FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FOR THE PROPERTY. IT'S LOCATED AT 166 OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY. IT IS THE OLD CEMEX FACILITY. I THINK YOU'RE ALL PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH IT. THE REQUEST CORRECTS AN OMISSION FROM THE TOWN'S COMP PLAN BY ASSIGNING A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO THE PROPERTY WHERE THERE CURRENTLY WASN'T ONE. SO THE PROPERTY HAS LONG BEEN ZONED INDUSTRIAL PARK.
WHEN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED, THE PROPERTY WAS INADVERTENTLY LEFT OUT WITH A CORRESPONDING LAND USE DESIGNATION. SO THIS AMENDMENT JUST ALIGNS THE COMP PLAN WITH THE PROPERTY'S EXISTING ZONING. SO THE PROPOSED GENERAL INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPERTY'S EXISTING I-1 ZONING, AND IT CREATES IT AVOIDS CREATING A MISMATCH BETWEEN THE COMP PLAN AND THE LAND USE. SO THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 0.77 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY VACANT FOLLOWING THE DEMOLITION OF THE FORMER CEMEX FACILITY ORDERED BY THE FLORIDA EAST COAST CORRIDOR.
THE SURROUNDING AREA CONTAINS A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. FOLLOWING THIS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT, THE OWNER INTENDS TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN APPLICATION WE ACTUALLY DID THAT YESTERDAY, SO IT'S IN FOR TWO SMALL WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING. AND THE FUTURE APPLICATION WILL GO THROUGH ITS OWN TECHNICAL REVIEW AND REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE ZONING. SO THE AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN. IT PROVIDES THE PROPERTY WITH A NEEDED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT'S BEEN ABSENT SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE COMP PLAN. UM, THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINED THAT THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC IMPACTS ARE MINIMAL. SO WE HAVE THAT REPORT. NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF IDENTIFIED NO ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AMENDMENT. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE REQUEST DOES NOT EXPAND THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT BEYOND WHAT IS ALREADY CONTEMPLATED
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IN THE EXISTING I-1 ZONING. SO WE APPRECIATE STAFF'S THOROUGH REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH RESPECT TO THE AMENDMENT, AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO THE SAME.THANK YOU, UH, STAFF, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, THATCHER HART, PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE TONIGHT. UM, SO THIS APPLICATION, AS YOU HEARD, IS TO ESTABLISH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN FOR THE OLD CEMEX PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON NORTH OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY. THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE A DESIGNATION PER THE TOWN'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
IT NEEDS TO BE ASSIGNED A DESIGNATION OR TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO DEVELOP THE PARCEL.
PROPOSED CHANGE TO GENERAL INDUSTRIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T SATISFY CRITERIA 3 RELATED TO ISOLATED LAND USES OF THE 4 CRITERIA LISTED IN SECTION 27.178, JUST OUTLINING THE CRITERIA FOR ALL FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENTS FOR THE MAP. HOWEVER, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SEPARATE FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES BY OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY ON THE EAST SIDE, AS WELL AS THE FEC RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE WEST AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH DOES PROVIDE ADEQUATE BUFFER FROM OTHER USES ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FEC RAILROAD AS WELL.
UH, THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH IS LOCATED WITHIN TEQUESTA'S JURISDICTION, AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE ON THE MAP. UM, RIGHT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THERE, AND IT'S ALSO OWNED BY THIS APPLICANT. UM, THE SITE HERE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS PLANNING ON BEING DEVELOPED IN TANDEM WITH THE SITE IN TEQUESTA, AND THE PARCEL IS DESIGNATED WITH COMMERCIAL LAND USE ON THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, THE USES WITHIN TEQUESTA'S COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE LISTED WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER DESIGNATION. THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT. AND WE HAVE COMMUNICATED THE INTENTIONS OF THIS DESIGNATION WITH THE QUEST, AND THERE WERE NO CONCERNS WITH THE APPLICATION. AND THEN JUST GENERALLY, THE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL LAND USES DO TYPICALLY ABUT EACH OTHER AND GO NEXT TO EACH OTHER, JUST CONSIDERING THAT THEY ARE BOTH INTENSE LAND USES. SO I'D BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
VERY GOOD. THANKS. WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS FROM MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER KEENAN? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
THIS IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PARTICULAR SPECIFIC LAND USE, BUT JUST THE DESIGNATION.
DO YOU HAVE THE MIC ON? OH, I'M SORRY.
THIS IS BETTER. IT'S A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION GIVEN ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT WE ARE NOT YET AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL LAND USE, WHICH MIGHT RAISE MORE QUESTIONS. SO IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
COMMISSIONER ROGOL? NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? NO QUESTIONS. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, UH, IS PROBABLY FOR THE APPLICANT. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WAS THERE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION ON THE SITE THAT HAD TO BE DEALT WITH? WE'VE DONE AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY AND NOTHING WAS FOUND ON THE PROPERTY.
SO CEMEX CLEANED IT UPON THEIR EXIT.
COMMISSIONER CASSATLY? YEAH, DON'T SIT DOWN. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WE'VE DEALT WITH THE PROPERTIES ALONG THE RAILWAY BEFORE. AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL DESIGNATION THAT EXTENDS OUT. YOUR PROPERTY DOES NOT INFRINGE ON THAT DESIGNATION.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELSO.
I HAD THE SAME ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONS AS YOU DID, SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
JUST CURIOSITY QUESTION ON THE TEQUESTA SIDE, HOW MANY UNITS OR BUILDINGS ARE YOU GOING TO DO? 3 WAREHOUSES. 3.
SO IT'LL BE IN THAT AREA A TOTAL OF 5.
I ALSO THINK IT'S A GOOD USE FOR THAT AREA, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. I KNOW THAT THERE WASN'T ANY TRAFFIC TRIP STUDIES FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY SINCE IT WASN'T DESIGNATED, BUT, BUT DO WE KNOW HOW MANY TRIPS A DAY THE CEMEX PROPERTY ACTUALLY GENERATED HISTORICALLY? NO, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
OKAY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST BE INTERESTING. I MEAN, IF, IF I WERE LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S WHAT'S THE DELTA BETWEEN WHAT WAS AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE? CERTAINLY.
AT THE FUTURE LAND USE LEVEL, WE TYPICALLY DO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. REALISTICALLY, THE PROPERTY WAS USED AS INDUSTRIAL, LIKE A GENERAL INDUSTRIAL USE, SO THERE WAS A NUMBER OF TRIPS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY COMPARABLE TO WHAT THE APPLICANT'S GOING TO BE REQUESTING HERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SITE PLAN. SO WHILE IT DIDN'T HAVE A LAND USE DESIGNATION ON IT, IT WAS STILL BEING USED FOR A PRETTY SIMILAR USE, GENERAL INDUSTRIAL USE. SO IT DID STILL HAVE SOME TRAFFIC ON IT ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
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STERLING.OOPS, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER BLUM.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? SO I'LL START ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER STERLING? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER BLUM? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER KELSO? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER CASSATLY? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI? NO COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER ROGOL? NO COMMISSIONER KEENAN? NO QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, SO THEN, ALL THAT BEING SAID, CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF 1666 NORTH DIXIE NORTH OLD DIXIE CMAX, A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT APPLICATION? MOTION TO APPROVE.
COMMISSIONER KEENAN, WE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, WAS THAT COMMISSIONER MR. KELSO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM, SEA GLASS. AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION 6-1-23 TO AMEND A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT FOR 23 MULTIFAMILY UNITS TO ALLOW EITHER RENTAL OR FOR-SALE UNITS. IT'S QUASI-JUDICIAL.
ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES? I'LL START ON MY RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER STERLING.
UH, YES, I VISITED THE PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER BLUM? I ALSO VISITED THE PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER KELSO? I ALSO VISITED THE PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER CHRIS HADLEY? NONE.
I VISITED THE PROPERTY AND SPOKE WITH TOWN STAFF.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? I VISITED THE PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI? NO DISCLOSURE.
COMMISSIONER ROGOL? I VISITED THE PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER KEENAN? UH, NO DISCLOSURE.
I, I VISITED THE PROPERTY THE LAST TIME AROUND, BUT NOT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE. SO, APPLICANT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION.
I APPRECIATE THAT, CHAIR AND COMMISSION. FOR THE RECORD, ZACH CICERO WITH CUTLER AND HERRING IN JUPITER. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER WHO IS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, MR. MILES RICH. HE IS THE CEO OF RICH PROPERTIES, AND THIS IS IN REGARDS TO A PROJECT THAT WE GOT APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL COMING UP ON 3 YEARS AGO NOW. UH, THIS IS A SMALL PIECE OF LAND, 2.3 ACRES. IT WAS APPROVED FOR 23 MARKET-RATE TOWNHOMES, AND INCLUDED IN THAT APPROVAL WAS 2.5 WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS, WHICH MILES OPTED TO DO THE FEE-IN-LIEU OPTION FOR THOSE., AND I WILL ADDRESS THAT IN A COUPLE SLIDES HERE. UH, THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF BUSH ROAD, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY THE LAUREL OAKS COMMUNITY, TIMBERWALK COMMUNITY, OR OWL POINT. IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO CHASEWOOD CONDOS. SO THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY FAIRLY SIMPLE. IT IS TO AMEND THE PUD TO ALLOW FOR EITHER 100% RENTAL OR 100% FOR SALE PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION HERE. SO IT'S NOT A MIX OF BOTH, IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER, AND JUST GIVING THAT FLEXIBILITY. AND FOR CONTEXT, THE SITE IS APPROVED FOR 100% RENTAL RIGHT NOW. FOR SALE IS NOT AN OPTION RIGHT NOW IN THE APPROVAL. SO THE MOST CRITICAL PIECE OF INFORMATION YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND ON THESE SCENARIOS IS HOW THAT AFFECTS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FEE.
IN THE CODE, WHEN YOU HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS APPROVED AND YOU OPT TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTING THOSE, YOU PAY A FEE PER UNIT, AND THEN THAT FEE IS CONTRIBUTED TO THE FUND, THE, THE TOWN'S WORKFORCE HOUSING FUND. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, UH, IT WAS APPROVED FOR RENTAL, 2.5 UNITS, SO THAT'S $150,000 PER UNIT TOTALING $375,000 FOR THIS APPLICATION. ONCE THAT IS PAID, MILES CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH PERMITS. FOR SALE IS $200,000 PER UNIT, SO IF HE OPTS TO DO TO DO FOR SALE, $500,000 WILL BE PAID TO THE TOWN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PERMITS. BUT EITHER SCENARIO REQUIRES THIS FEE.
THERE'S NO OPTION WITHOUT THIS FEE. SO IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, AND LET'S SAY COUNCIL DID APPROVE THIS AND THIS WAS ADOPTED, UH, I'LL IT'LL BE TWO SCENARIOS MOVING FORWARD. THE RENTAL SCENARIO, WHICH CURRENTLY EXISTS WITH THE APPROVAL, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WE WOULD PROVIDE A RECORDED COVENANT TO THE TOWN, WHICH IS REALLY JUST A LEGAL MECHANISM TO PRESERVE THE RENTAL STATUS ON THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE TOWN WOULD ISSUE THE INVOICE FOR $375,000, MILES WOULD PAY THAT, AND THEN PROCEED WITH PERMITS. IF MILES TODAY AND THIS WAS APPROVED, LET'S SAY HE WANTS TO DO FOR SALE THEN IT WOULDN'T BE A COVENANT. HE WOULD SIMPLY
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SUBMIT A MINOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE TO THE TOWN, WHICH WOULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. WE WOULD BASICALLY JUST STATE THAT WE INTEND TO MAKE THESE FOR-SALE UNITS.ONCE THE TOWN APPROVES THAT AMENDMENT, THEY WOULD ISSUE THE INVOICE FOR $500,000. MILES WOULD PAY THAT AND PROCEED WITH PERMITS. SO IT'S REALLY JUST GIVING THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO ONE OR THE OTHER RATHER THAN RENTAL. THERE'S A FEW CO-WORKERS OF MINE THAT LIVE IN TIMBER WALK AND OWL POINT.
THEY WOULD PREFER FOR SALE. I THINK AT THIS POINT WE WOULD PREFER FOR SALE AS WELL, BUT WHO KNOWS WITH THE MARKET SHIFTS IF RENTAL WOULD BECOME FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE AT THAT POINT. BUT REALLY, I THINK, UM, IN MY CLOSING STATEMENT, FOR SALE IS MORE JUPITER-CENTRIC, ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THE CLOSEST RENTAL COMMUNITY IS MALLARD COVE. CHASEWOOD CONDOS, WHILE THERE ARE A LOT OF RENTALS, IT IS FOR SALE, IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED CONDO UNITS INSIDE OF THERE. SO, UM, THAT WAS MY CLOSING STATEMENT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, THE OWNER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
[3.Seaglass – (Quasi-Judicial) Amendment to Resolution 61-23 to permit the development of 23 multifamily residential units as either entirely rental or entirely for-sale condominiums for a 2.93± acre property located at 105 Rich Circle (FKA 550 Bush Road). (PZ#26-6859, 26-6860)]
GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSION. FOR THE RECORD, JOSEPH DRAY WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. AS THE APPLICANT HAS STATED, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND THE SUBJECT RESOLUTION TO PERMIT 23 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE DEVELOPED EITHER AS ENTIRELY RENTAL OR AS ENTIRELY FOR SALE. THE UNITS WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED AS RENTAL, SO IF APPROVED, THE REQUEST WOULD PROVIDE THE APPLICANT FLEXIBILITY REGARDING THE UNIT OWNERSHIP TYPE. UH, THE DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND FINDS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE TOWN CODE BASED ON THE ANALYSIS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AS WELL AS SUBJECT TO LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT 1 ON PAGE 71 OF YOUR PACKETS. UH, IN REVIEWING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, THERE IS A CONCERN REGARDING COLLECTING THE APPROPRIATE FEE IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTING WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS. UM, AND AS PART OF SEA GLASS'S, UM, DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO MAKE PAYMENT FOR 2.5 WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS, UH, IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTING THEM.AND AS THE APPLICANT STATED, THERE ARE RATES PROVIDED IN THE TOWN CODE WITH A DIFFERENT RATE FOR THE RENTAL VERSUS THE FOR SALE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.
UM, SO IF THE 23 UNITS ARE DEVELOPED AS RENTAL, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD PAY THE FEE FOR 2.5 RENTAL WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS. UM, AND THEN IF THEY'RE DEVELOPED AS FOR SALE, THE APPLICANT WOULD PAY FOR 2.5 FOR SALE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS. UM, LASTLY, IN THE EVENT THAT THE UNITS ARE INITIALLY DEVELOPED AS RENTAL,, BUT IN THE FUTURE THE OWNER DECIDES TO CONVERT THEM TO FOR SALE, UH, THEN STAFF HAS INCLUDED A CONDITION REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT A COVENANT OR A SIMILAR DOCUMENT, UH, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, UH, PRIOR TO SUCH CONVERSION. AND SO THIS CONDITION HAS BEEN ADDED, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THE TOWN IS NOTIFIED IF AND WHEN A CONVERSION FROM RENTAL TO FOR SALE OCCURS IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND IS THEN ABLE TO COLLECT THE APPROPRIATE IN LIEU WORKFORCE HOUSING FEE, WHICH WOULD ONLY BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAYING FOR 2.5 FOR-SALE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS AND 2.5 RENTAL FOR-SALE RENTAL UNITS, EXCUSE ME. SO ULTIMATELY, THE MODIFIED CONDITIONS PROVIDE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE UNITS AS EITHER RENTAL OR FOR SALE, AND THEY ALSO ACCOUNT FOR THE POTENTIAL CONVERSION FROM RENTAL TO FOR SALE IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU, AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
GREAT. LET'S START ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
GIVEN THE ECONOMICS OF THIS ARRANGEMENT, WHY ARE YOU EVEN BOTHERING TO MAINTAIN THE FLEXIBILITY OF RENTAL? I MEAN, YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE SO MUCH MORE MONEY ON THE SALE. WHY HOLD BACK ON THE RENTAL? I THINK IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR US TO KEEP THE FLEXIBILITY, BUT RIGHT NOW IF WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, IT WOULD BE FOR SALE. WE PREFER TO GO THAT, THAT ROUTE.
YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY YOU'RE HOLDING BACK AND KEEPING THE OPTION OF RENTAL GIVEN THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF SALE.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU GAIN IN HOLDING BACK ON IT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SO MUCH AS WHAT WE GAIN, BUT WE WOULD LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO RENTAL IN THE FUTURE., WHO KNOWS HOW THE MARKET WORKS.
OF COURSE, FOR SALE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR US RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK BEING ABLE TO KEEP IT SINCE IT WAS APPROVED AT THAT TIME AS RENTAL, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR US AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER ROGOL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE CONDITION THAT THE STAFF OUTLINED? IF YOU GO RENTAL AND THEN DECIDE TO GO FOR SALE.
NO, SIR, NO OBJECTIONS ON ANY CONDITIONS BROUGHT BY STAFF.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI.
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SO WHEN I REVIEWED YOUR LETTER TO TOWN STAFF, AND THEN I LOOKED AT THE AMENDMENT, AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED AT THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION I WAS A BIT CONFUSED AS RELATIVE TO WHAT THE NUMBERS, IF THEY CHANGED AT ALL. SO THE QUESTION I GOT IS, DID THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO CONDITION 8 SUBSTANTIVELY CHANGE THE AMOUNT TO BE PAID IF THE WORKFORCE CRITERIA IS NOT MET? AND I GUESS THAT IS PROBABLY FOR STAFF.COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR ME? SO, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. IT HAD ONE SET OF DOLLAR VALUES IN IT.
OKAY. THEN THE LETTER SAID, WELL, WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE TO THIS SET OF DOLLAR VALUES.
AND THEY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO NOT ONLY SECTION 4, SUBSECTION 8, BUT ALSO SECTION 03, WHICH I NOTICED DIDN'T COME FORWARD. AND THEN WE ENDED UP WITH THIS REFERENCE TO THE TOWN CODE. OKAY, NO DOLLAR VALUE, POINTS STRAIGHT AT TOWN CODE, FOLLOW THIS FORMULA. AND ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS, RELATIVE TO THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, HAVE WE SUBSTANTIVELY CHANGED THE VALUE OF THE FEES? GOT IT, I, I FOLLOW YOU.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. UM, SO THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL APPROACH TO IT. WE FOUND AN EASIER WAY TO DO IT, WHICH IS JUST BASICALLY REFERENCING THE TOWN CODE. THE RATIONALE BEHIND DOING THAT, AS WELL AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE FUTURE IS THAT IF THEY DECIDE TO CHANGE TO FOR SALE 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND THAT FEE IS TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE WHAT IT IS TODAY, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. SO THE REASON WE WENT BACK TO THAT CODE WAS REALLY, ONE, TO SIMPLIFY IT, AND THEN TWO, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT HAPPENS WAY FURTHER OUT THAN ANYBODY HERE ANTICIPATES, WE'RE STILL ABLE TO CAPTURE THOSE DOLLARS LONG TERM.
THAT MAKES GREAT SENSE. SO THANK YOU. BUT RELATIVE TO, SAY, EVERYTHING STARTS TODAY AND THEY WERE TO SHOW UP TOMORROW WITH A CHECK, WOULD THE AMOUNTS STILL BE SIMILAR? THEY'RE IDENTICAL TO WHAT THEY WOULD BE TODAY.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. SO I JUST HAD ONE FOR TOWN STAFF AND SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC, BUT DO WE DO WE FEEL AS A TOWN THAT WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF RENTAL UNITS AVAILABLE COMPARED TO PROPERTIES FOR SALE? OR I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO ATTRACT A CERTAIN WORKFORCE AND A CERTAIN DIVERSITY OF POPULATION. ARE WE WOULD WE PREFER, IF IT WAS UP TO US, TO HAVE MORE RENTALS AS OPPOSED TO FOR SALE? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE TRACK.
NOT SOMETHING WE ENCOURAGE ONE OVER THE OTHER. WE REALLY LET MARKET CONDITIONS DECIDE.
THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, AND THEN I GUESS, ARE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE IN ZONING, IS THERE, WHETHER IT'S A MULTI-FAMILY FOR RENTAL OR A TOWNHOMES FOR SALE? NO, NO, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE.
SAME. OKAY. UM, YEAH, THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE. COMMISSIONER CASSATLY? I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER KELSO? JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO DO RENTAL HOUSING YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEN I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I HAD THAT SAME QUESTION AS FAR AS IF IT CHANGES TO FOR SALE IN 10 YEARS FROM NOW. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CURRENT DOLLARS. IT WILL BE WHATEVER THE FEE IS AT THAT TIME.
AND QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IS IF IT DOES GO TO FOR SALE, WOULD IT JUST LIKE THE COMMUNITY NEARBY ALLOW RENTALS? YOU KNOW, THE OWNERS TO RENT OUT THEIR PROPERTY? SO YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING TO HAVE A HYBRID? PROBABLY. I MEAN, THAT'S THE MOST COMMON, AND I DON'T THINK THE TOWN GETS INVOLVED IN HOA DOCUMENTS, BUT THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT COMMUNITY, SIMILAR TO EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY, REALLY. AND THERE COULD BE A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT YOU COULD PURCHASE AND RENT OUT. LIKE THE TOWNHOME COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN, YOU CAN PURCHASE UP TO 3 RENT OUT 2, LIVE IN 1. BUT YEAH, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, I WOULD ANTICIPATE.
OKAY, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS FOR THE TOWN TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR FUTURE, IS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH RENTAL IF WE WANT IT, YOU KNOW, IN THAT IF IT DOES GO TO FOR SALE. AND THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER BLUM, WHAT IS YOUR TIME FRAME WHEN BUILDING? JUST THE TIME FRAME.
I'LL ANSWER. YOU STARTING TO COMPLETION? 12 TO 16 MONTHS.
YEAH, 12 TO 16 MONTHS TO START. NO, COMPLETE.
OKAY. AND THE QUESTION FOR THE TOWN: THE WORKFORCE HOUSING MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED, HOW MUCH OF THAT HAS BEEN USED TO BUILD WORKFORCE FORCE HOUSING?
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WE'VE NOT, WE'VE NOT USED ANY OF IT YET. UM, WE HAVE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE HAVE A ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION THAT WILL BE GOING TO COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO USE THAT MONEY. UM, BUT FOR NOW, WE HAVE NOT USED IT FOR ANYTHING YET.HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN COLLECTING IT? UH, SINCE ABOUT 2016 WAS WHEN THE CODE WENT ON THE BOOKS. SO YEAH, AND SOME OF IT'S BEEN THROUGH COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LINKAGE FEE, SOME OF IT'S AND THROUGH UNITS SUCH AS THIS TYPE OF PROJECT, UM, CONTRIBUTING FEES TOWARDS THAT.
AND WHO IS THE ROUNDTABLE? WHO'S WHO'S GOING TO BE GOING TO THE TOWN COUNCIL? SO THAT IS SCHEDULED? THAT'S HAPPENING SOON? IT HASN'T BEEN SCHEDULED YET THAT I'M AWARE OF, UM, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT SOME POINT IN THE IN THE FUTURE.
SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME BEEN COLLECTING MONEY. NEED TO MAKE IT WORK.
NOTHING PERSONAL. IT SOUNDED THAT WAY, BUT NOTHING PERSONAL. THANK YOU. I'M DONE.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER STERLING.
I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, WHAT IS KIND OF THE ANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, SALES PRICE OF THESE UNITS AND/OR RENTAL, MONTHLY RENT ON THESE THINGS? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. I'M NOT HOLDING YOU TO IT, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ON THE PRICE POINT. AND MILES CAN SHAKE HIS HEAD BEHIND ME, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMPARABLES FOR THESE TYPES OF TOWNHOME UNITS. AND OF COURSE, THESE ARE NEW BUILD.
I THINK THE TOWNHOMES COULD BE IN THE $800,000 RANGE. RENT PRICES COULD BE UP TO $5,000 PER MONTH.
UM, IT'S I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF ON TANGENT HERE, BUT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT SHOULD THE TOWN HAVE MORE RENTAL UNITS. IT'S A LITTLE UNRELATED, BUT MAYBE THE TOWN SHOULD HAVE MORE RENTAL UNITS AT THE $2,000 RANGE. RENTAL UNITS AT THIS RANGE REALLY JUST BRING ON SNOWBIRDS, PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE HERE, THEY JUST HAVE A RENTAL UNIT FOR, UM, JUST SEASONAL. SO JUST MY TWO CENTS ON THAT, BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE RANGE I ANTICIPATE.
THANK YOU. UH, ARE THERE ANY, UM, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? THERE'S NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU. UH, ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? AND I'LL START ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN? NO COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER ROGOL? NO COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI? NO COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? NO COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER CASSATLY? NO COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER KELSO? ONE COMMENT. I WANTED TO REITERATE WHAT COMMISSIONER BLUM WAS SAYING.
TO ME, OUT OF THIS PROJECT, THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND IS, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN, FROM TOWN COUNCIL ON DOWN, ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING AND HOW THAT'S LIKE ONE OF OUR TOP 3 THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT YET, AS LONG AS I'VE SAT ON THIS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, ALMOST EVERYTHING HAS ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, FUNDS TO THIS, YOU KNOW, PROJECT. SO I THINK THAT IS I'M SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROUNDTABLE BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THAT'S A KEY THING, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR US GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU.
NOTHING. ELSE, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER KELSO WAS SAYING.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER STERLING? NO COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF SEA GLASS AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION 61-23 TO PERMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF 23 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS APPLICATION? MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BASED ON THE FINDINGS ON THE STAFF REPORT. AND THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL NOTED IN EXHIBIT 1.
THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
MR. THOMPSON, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU ALL.
[STAFF UPDATE ]
ALL RIGHT, STAFF UPDATE.THANK YOU, CHAIR. JUST A FEW UPDATES ON A COUPLE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN TO YOU OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. UM, FIRST, ON JUNE 2ND, THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED THE BAYSIDE OFFICE PROJECT THAT ENDED UP HAVING A CONDITION ADDED TO IT TO REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS ON THE ROOF, AS WELL AS TO ADD SOME LANDSCAPING ON THE NORTH SIDE, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE VIEW FROM THE PARK.
DID THEY TALK AT ALL ABOUT THE LOUVER? THE LOUVERED THOSE REMAINED AS MOVABLE, OR WERE THEY FIXED? MOVABLE. MOVABLE, OK. AND IT PASSED 4 TO 1 WITH THE MAYOR DISSENTING.
OKAY. JUNE 16TH WAS THE FINAL APPROVAL OF SECOND READING OF THE FIRE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU ALL LOOKED REVIEWED A FEW MONTHS AGO AS WELL. SO THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY ON CONSENT. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE ITEMS THAT YOU SAW LAST MONTH, BEARS CLUB PUD AND SHOPS AT JUPITER PUD, OR SHOPS AT JUPITER MOVING FORWARD TO 7/21. SO THAT AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED TODAY. BEARS CLUB SCHEDULED FOR FIRST READING, UM, NO CHANGES TO THAT ONE.
UM, BUT SINCE THE P&Z MEETING AT THE SHOPS AT JUPITER, WE HAD A COUPLE UPDATES. UM, THE TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAD UPDATED THE PLAN
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FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. THEY WENT WITH AN ELONGATED ROUNDABOUT DESIGN, WHICH WAS ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE FULL TURNING MOTION WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO WHERE THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT DESIGN. UM, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY, JUST EASEMENTS FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT WORKED OUT POSITIVELY.ON ANOTHER, ANOTHER POSITIVE NOTE, UM, THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED A $96,000 CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THAT PROJECT. UM, OVERALL, THAT PROJECT'S ABOUT $1.2 MILLION, UM, BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING A $96,000 CONTRIBUTION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN WORK ON THAT ONE. UH, AND THEN THANKS TO THE DISCUSSION THAT NIGHT, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME UP. WE HAD ADDED SOME CONDITIONS AS WELL BEFORE THINGS MOVE FORWARD TO COUNCIL, UM, RELATED TO THE PAINTING OF THE MOVIE THEATER BY JANUARY 1ST, 2029, UM, COVERING THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA OF THE PARISIAN, UM, CLEARING SOME EXOTICS WITH A MONITORING REPORT REQUIREMENT FOR THE PRESERVE AREA. UM, AND WE'VE ALSO REFINED THAT PARKING CONDITION, WHICH WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT THAT NIGHT BEING AMENDED BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT. SO, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE AMENDED THAT LANGUAGE TOGETHER.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MOVING FORWARD TO NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT, UM, WITH ALL THOSE ADDITIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISCUSSION. THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. UM, AND THEN JUST LASTLY, AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
IT'S NOT OUR NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT IT IS IN SEPTEMBER. THE DATE OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING CHANGED FROM THE 8TH, TUESDAY THE 8TH, TO THURSDAY THE 10TH.
THAT WAS AS A RESULT OF SOME BUDGET HEARINGS NEEDED TO GET MOVED AROUND, BUT WILL BE HERE ON A THURSDAY NIGHT IN SEPTEMBER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.
HEY, GARRETT, UM, QUICK QUESTION. THE OVAL ROUNDABOUT, WILL THAT BE BUILT THE SAME TIME AS WHEN THEY IMPROVE THE SHOPPING CENTER? SO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. UM, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT COUNCIL DOES NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT. UM, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, SINCE IT'S IN THE CRA, FOR IT TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE CRA IT COULD JUST BE THAT OVAL ROUNDABOUT. IT COULD BE THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR AS A PROJECT.
UM, SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE DISCUSSION THAT COMES OUT OF TUESDAY NIGHT.
ISN'T THAT A COUNTY ROAD? THE TOWN TOOK OVER THE EAST SIDE OF A1A. I'M SORRY, OF INDIAN TOWN ROAD.
AND I GET CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN TONIGHT'S MEETING? MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? VERY GOOD. THANKS, EVERYONE. COUNCILLOR.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.