[00:00:01] IT'S 7 PM. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE JUNE 9TH, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. SO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SO THAT WAY WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM. CHAIR KEVIN KIRN. HERE VICE CHAIR BETH KELSO. HERE. COMMISSIONER MICHAEL CASSATLY. HERE. COMMISSIONER ROBERT GRABOWSKI. HERE. COMMISSIONER MARTY ROGOL. HERE. COMMISSIONER PAUL KEENAN. HERE. COMMISSIONER DAVID THOMPSON. HERE COMMISSIONER CYNTHIA BLUM. HERE. COMMISSIONER EDWARD STERLING. HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SUBMIT A GREEN COMMENT CARD TO THE SECRETARY. OKAY, NEXT, OUR CITIZEN COMMENTS UNRELATED TO AGENDA ITEMS. THE BOARD WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING. ANY ISSUES WILL BE NOTED BY STAFF FOR FOLLOW-UP AS APPROPRIATE. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO EXPRESS THEIR COMMENTS. STAFF ARE THERE. ANY COMMENT CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC, OR ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. OKAY. [MINUTES] OKAY, THEN NEXT WE MOVE TO THE MINUTES. REVIEW OF THE MAY 12TH, 2026 MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SO THAT WAS BLUM AND ROGEL. NEXT IS THE REGULAR AGENDA. CHAIR, YOU GET A VOTE. I'M SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. OK, VOTE IS UNANIMOUS. NEXT IS A [ORDER OF BUSINESS ] REGULAR AGENDA. STAFF, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO CHANGES. THANK YOU. CAN THE SECRETARY PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES? THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANTS AND STAFF WHO MAY BE PROVIDING TESTIMONY. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAKING COMMENTS. PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS MATTER IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. YOU CAN BE SEATED. OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM [2.Bear's Club (Quasi-Judicial) - A. Planned Unit Development (PUD) amendment to modify the PUD master plan located within a 400.9 +/- acre property known as the Bears Club PUD to convert 0.8 +/- acres of Common Area Tract “B” to widen Bears Club Dr (secondary entrance off Frederick Small Road) and to create a 0.6+/- POA Maintenance Area site (Phase 1C) and waivers to the front and side corner setbacks. B. Site plan application to construct a POA maintenance facility building on a 0.6 +/- acre site, redesign the Frederick Small Road secondary entrance, and add a manned guardhouse. (PZ 26-6722 & 6723)] ON OUR AGENDA IS THE BEARS CLUB PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT AND SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS. THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM. ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES? I'LL START ON MY RIGHT SIDE. YES, I VISITED THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU. NONE. SAME, I VISITED THE PROPERTY. AND I VISITED THE PROPERTY AS WELL. NONE. I VISITED THE PROPERTY. NO DISCLOSURES. OK. ALL RIGHT, NOW I INVITE THE APPLICANT TO GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION. OK, GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MORRIS CRADY. I'M SENIOR PARTNER WITH LUCIDO AND ASSOCIATES. WE'RE A LAND PLANNING, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM IN STUART, FLORIDA. AND I'VE BEEN HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING ON THIS PROJECT SINCE IT WAS APPROVED IN 1998. SO WE'VE BEEN DOING AMENDMENTS AND FINAL SITE PLANS EVER SINCE. AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE PROJECT AS IT MATURES 30 YEARS LATER ALMOST. I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION. AND WE'RE REALLY HERE FOR JUST TWO REASONS. FREDERICK SMALL ROAD ENTRANCE ROAD. IT'S AND ALSO ADDING A POA MAINTENANCE CENTER. SO THE BEAR'S CLUB, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IS A PUD. WE'RE BORDERED ON THE NORTH BY FREDERICK SMALL ROAD AND ON THE SOUTH BY DONALD ROSS ROAD, AND PALM ROAD TO THE EAST, AND RITZ-CARLTON PUD IS TO THE WEST. AND OUR MAIN ENTRANCE IS SHARED WITH RITZ-CARLTON AT A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION ON DONALD ROSS ROAD. AND WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL PUD, THE FREDERICK SMALL ENTRANCE, WHICH IS AT THE TOP HERE, WAS REALLY JUST TO BE A SECONDARY ENTRANCE FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO FOR THE SERVICE VEHICLES, MAINTENANCE VEHICLES, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS IS THAT THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES HAVE INCREASED. SO HAS THE NEED FOR LAWN SERVICES, FOR DELIVERIES, AND ALL OF THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES HAPPEN THROUGH THE SECONDARY ENTRANCE.. AND THAT'S HOW IT WAS DESIGNED ORIGINALLY. BUT IT'S CREATED A CONGESTION PROBLEM BECAUSE THE CARS DO STACK UP TRYING TO GET INTO THE PROJECT. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. WE HAD THE PHASE 1B MAINTENANCE AREA IS JUST RIGHT OFF OF THIS ACCESS. AND IT WAS INTENDED TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, EASY ACCESS INTO THE MAINTENANCE AREA. THE POA, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, HAS BEEN SHARING THIS MAINTENANCE AREA FOR YEARS, FOR DECADES WITH THE GOLF CLUB, AND IT'S BECOME DIFFICULT, TO SAY THE LEAST. SO THEY'RE THEY WERE LOOKING TO FIND AN AREA. SO WHAT WE'RE [00:05:01] DOING HERE AS FAR AS A PUD AMENDMENT IS WE'RE ADDING A NEW PHASE. PHASE 1B PHASE 1A WAS THE GOLF COURSE, PHASE 1B WAS THE GOLF CLUB MAINTENANCE CENTER, AND THEN PHASE 1C IS WE'RE HOPING TO REDESIGN THE ENTRANCE AND ADD A POA MAINTENANCE BUILDING HERE. SO REALLY, THE STATEMENT OF USE IS SIMPLE: REDESIGN AND EXPAND FREDERICK SMALL ROAD FROM 2 LANES, 1 IN, 1 OUT, TO 4 LANES, 2 IN AND 2 OUT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY, OUR ENGINEERS, AND WITH YOUR TOWN ENGINEER TO COME UP WITH A SAFE AND, AND, AND OPERATION OF THIS, OF THE, OF THE NEW ENTRANCE. WE'RE MODIFYING THE GUARDHOUSE. IT'S CURRENTLY A MANNED GUARDHOUSE, BUT IT ONLY HAS ACCESS FOR THE 1 LANE COMING IN AND 1 LANE GOING OUT. AND THEN WE'RE CONVERTING ABOUT HALF AN ACRE OF LAND FOR THE POA MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND ADDING APPROXIMATELY 2,800-SQUARE-FOOT MAINTENANCE BUILDING WITH A 630-SQUARE-FOOT OPEN STORAGE AREA. SO THIS IS THE CURRENT AERIAL SHOWING THE THIS IS THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING, PHASE 1B MAINTENANCE BUILDING, GOLF COURSE, AND THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO ADD PHASE 1C. I PUT IN THIS AERIAL JUST TO SHOW YOU THIS IS A 2008 AERIAL BUT YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING WALL THAT WAS PLACED IN THE MIDDLE OF A 25-FOOT BUFFER. WE DID MAKE A REVISION DURING THE COURSE OF THE REVIEW TO KEEP THIS WALL 20 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO SAVE A CLUMP OF OAKS OR SOME PALM TREES AND PALMETTOS IN THIS AREA. BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE ACCESS TO THE MAINTENANCE AREA. AND THEN BEARS CLUB DRIVE IS BASICALLY THE ENTIRE ROAD THAT ENTERS AND CIRCLES THE PROJECT. THIS IS THE EXISTING ENTRANCE. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'VE BEEN IMPACTING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THIS IS WHERE CARS OR VEHICLES DO BACK UP AND IT DOES CAUSE A PROBLEM HERE WITH CONGESTION. AND PART OF THIS IS TO REALLY TAKE CONTROL OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO IMPROVE THE ACCESS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SO THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE. WHEN I WAS OUT PUTTING THE SIGN UP, I DID THIS WAS ON A MONDAY, AND I DIDN'T GET THE STEADY STREAM VEHICLES, BUT I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS NUMEROUS LAWN AND SERVICE VEHICLES, DELIVERIES, TRUCKS THAT USE THIS ACCESS, MAKING IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTROL THE ACCESS AND ALLOW RESIDENTS OR GUESTS TO ENTER THIS PARTICULAR ENTRANCE. WE ARE REDESIGNING WE ARE MAKING A MINOR CHANGE TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO SAVE THIS CLUMP OF SAW PALMETTOS AND THESE PALM TREES. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT THIS AREA. WE'RE EXPANDING TO THE EAST. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY THIS IS THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE TWO-LANE FACILITY. WE'RE EXPANDING IT BY ABOUT 07,000 SQUARE FEET. THIS WILL BECOME ADDITIONAL PRIVATE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WILL GET DEDICATED TO NORTHERN PALM BEACH AS CURRENTLY ALL OUR ROADS ARE DEDICATED TO NORTHERN PALM BEACH. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL TO GET THEIR APPROVAL AND PERMISSION TO DO THIS CHANGE. AND THEN AGAIN, THE SITE PLAN, 2 LANES IN, 2 LANES OUT. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ALLOW THE GUARD TO ALLOW VEHICLES IN 2 WAYS, AND ALL OF THE SERVICE VEHICLES WILL COME IN TO THIS LOCATION. AND THEN WE HAVE 2 WAYS OUT. FOR VEHICLES LEAVING. AND WE'RE LINING UP THE ACCESS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE EXISTING ACCESS OF THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE GOLF CLUB AND PUTTING IN SOME TRASH OR SOME BINS FOR STORAGE AND SOME PARKING. AND THIS IS ALL TO BENEFIT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION. THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT'S RELATED TO THE ACTUAL GOLF CLUB. THIS IS JUST AN OVERLAY SHOWING HOW WE'RE MAKING THAT EXPANDED TURN LANE, SO WE ARE ADDING A TURN LANE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE SERVICE VEHICLES. AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH QUICKLY ON THESE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS. THE INTENT OF THE STORAGE BUILDING WAS LOW PROFILE. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FEATURE IT. IT'S GOING TO BE HIDDEN COMPLETELY BY WALL LANDSCAPE. NO ONE WILL SEE IT, BUT WE WANTED TO KEEP THE HEIGHT DOWN. IT'S 13.5, I THINK, AT THE AVERAGE ROOF HEIGHT AND 17 FEET AT THE PEAK. GUARD HOUSE, WE'RE USING THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WE THAT HAS BEEN UTILIZED THROUGHOUT THE COMMON AREAS. AGAIN, LOW PROFILE, THE ABILITY TO ACCESS FROM EITHER SIDE OF THE GUARD FACILITY. YOU CAN SEE THE GUARDHOUSE HERE IN THE SMALLER, BUT THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AGAIN, ALLOWING ACCESS ENTERING FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE GUARD FACILITY AND THEN TWO LANES OUT. THIS, BY THE WAY, IS THE ARCHITECT'S RENDERING OF THE OF THE OF THE OF THE GUARDHOUSE. DISREGARD THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SLIDES FOR THAT THAT I'LL SHOW YOU [00:10:01] IN A MOMENT. SO WE'RE REALLY, AS FAR AS WAIVERS, WE'RE ONLY REQUESTING A FEW SETBACK WAIVERS AND THEY'RE ALL INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT. WAIVER FOR THE GENERATOR, THE BUILDING, AND THE COVERED STORAGE, WHICH AGAIN IS THE GENERATOR IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO LOCATE IT BEHIND THE WALL SO YOU WON'T SEE IT. YOU WON'T, WELL, YOU CAN STILL HEAR IT. BUT IT HOPEFULLY WON'T BE USED THAT OFTEN. AND THEN AGAIN, THE COVERED STORAGE IS HERE AND THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING. SO ALL OF OUR WAIVERS ARE LOCATED, YOU KNOW, ALONG OUR ENTRY. THERE IS NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED THAT WOULD AFFECT THE TRAVELING PUBLIC ON FREDERICK SMALL ROAD. AND WE'RE MITIGATING THOSE SETBACK REDUCTIONS BY EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING ALONG OUR ROADWAY AND ALSO, OF COURSE, ALONG FREDERICK SMALL. AND HERE WE WENT AHEAD AND REALISTICALLY RENDERED THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT THE COUNTY OR THAT THE TOWN REVIEWED. AND THIS IS THAT CLUMP OF PALMETTOS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SAVE. THESE ARE EXISTING PALM TREES THAT WILL BE RETAINED. AND YOU CAN SEE I MEAN, IT IS GOING TO BE MUCH WIDER, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE FUNCTIONAL AND SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS USING THE ROAD, FOR THE PUBLIC USING FREDERICK SMALL ROAD, AND FOR THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THE PROJECT. THIS IS THE TWO LANES THAT ENTER. WE ARE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL OAKS. WE HOPE TO GET THAT CANOPY BACK, YOU KNOW, THE CANOPY THAT HAS DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS. SO WE ARE PUTTING IN LARGE OAKS AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GROW TOGETHER WITH THESE OTHER OAKS. AND WE DID AGREE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS SIDE OF THE PROJECT TO RETAIN SOME OF THE CHAMPION OAKS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA, THE 28 THAT THE OAKS THAT ARE OVER 28 INCHES. THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THE WALL IN FRONT OF THE MAINTENANCE AREA. THIS IS OUR RENDERING OF OUR PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND THESE ARE THE TWO LANES COMING OUT OF THE FACILITY. AND I THINK THAT OH, LET ME JUST TALK ABOUT PUBLIC BENEFITS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS IN RESPONSE TO A NEED THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED. ARE DEALING WITH ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS. WE'RE NOT DOING THIS TO IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES LIKE A DEVELOPER WOULD. THESE WAIVERS ARE NOT TO BENEFIT THE MARKET OR TO INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE HOMES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE DOING IT SPECIFICALLY TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND REDUCE VEHICULAR CONFLICTS AT THIS ENTRANCE AND CENTRALIZE THE POA OPERATIONS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT CONFLICTING WITH THE GOLF CLUB OPERATION. SO THEY ARE VERY COSTLY TO THE POA. AND AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THIS IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT AND WE ARE 100% IN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND ALL THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SO WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. OKAY. STAFF WILL GIVE YOU A REPORT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION. UH, FOR THE RECORD, JENNA JOHNSTON WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. UH, THERE ARE 2 APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE FIRST IS THE PUD AMENDMENT TO THE BEARS CLUB PUD TO ALLOW FOR THE CREATION OF THE PUA MAINTENANCE AREA SITE WITH REQUESTED WAIVERS TO THE SETBACK REGULATIONS. AND THE SECOND IS A SITE PLAN APPLICATION TO CONSTRUCT THE PUA MAINTENANCE FACILITY. REDESIGN FREDERICK SMALL ROAD SECONDARY ENTRANCE AND ADD THE MANNED GUARDHOUSE. STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND DETERMINED THE APPLICATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TOWN CODE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBITS 1 AND 2. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING WAIVER TO BOTH THE FRONT AND SIDE CORNER BUILDING SETBACKS FROM 25 FEET TO 10 FEET AND PROPOSES AS PUBLIC BENEFIT THE MODIFICATIONS OF FREDERICK SMALL ROAD TO INCLUDE THE RIGHT TURN LANE AND THAT CROSSWALK. IF THE PROJECT IS DETERMINED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PUBLIC BENEFIT, STAFF HAS INCLUDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, THE OWNER OBTAINED PALM BEACH COUNTY APPROVAL TO MODIFY FREDERICK SMALL ROAD AND PROVIDE VERIFICATION THAT THE APPLICABLE PERMITS HAVE BEEN SECURED. OTHER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL INCLUDE CONDITION 4 OF EXHIBIT 1, WHICH REQUIRES THE PROVISION OF OWNER AUTHORIZATION TO PROCESS A FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE GOLF COURSE PARCELS TO RECREATION AND THE PRESERVE AREA PARCELS TO CONSERVATION. THIS IS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES REQUIRING CONSERVATION AND RECREATION AREAS OF 10 ACRES OR GREATER APPROVED BY A DEVELOPMENT ORDER BE ASSIGNED THE APPROPRIATE CORRESPONDING LAND USE AND ZONING. OTHER NOTABLE CONDITIONS ARE CONDITIONS 4C AND 4D OF EXHIBIT 2. WHICH REQUIRES THE OWNER MODIFY THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE DESIGN TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON 2 OAK TREES ON SITE THAT ARE GREATER THAN [00:15:02] 28 INCHES DBH, AND REMOVAL OF THE PROPOSED MITIGATION CREDITS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE 2 TREES. THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING TO PRESERVE THESE TREES, AS THEY STATED. UH, STAFF HAS INCLUDED THE CONDITION TO ENSURE MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE 2 TREES, FURTHER ENSURING THE TREES ARE PROTECTED BY ADDING A CONDITION TO MODIFY THE ROADWAY DESIGN. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT INCLUDE OBTAINING APPROVAL FROM NORTHERN PALM BEACH COUNTY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO MODIFY BARRY'S CLUB DRIVE, ADDRESSING THE CAMERAS WITHIN THE PALM BEACH COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND PROVIDING THE DEPARTMENT WITH A MATERIALS BOARD AND PROPOSED DETAILS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE 2 ITEMS FOR A VOTE TONIGHT, WHICH WILL REQUIRE 2 MOTIONS. THE FIRST IS THE PUD AMENDMENT, AND THE SECOND IS FOR THE SITE PLAN. AND WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. NOW WE WILL COME UP TO THE COMMISSION. DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WE WILL AGAIN START ON THE RIGHT. COMMISSIONER STERLING. YOU SAY THAT IT IS GOING TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC IN REGARDS TO BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I THINK MOST OF THE TRAFFIC, IF NOT ALL OF IT, IS THE SERVICE VEHICLES, WHAT IT'S GOING TO EXPEDITE THE MORE EFFICIENT, I GUESS, TRAFFIC WITH THOSE VEHICLES. WELL, JUST GIVING A SEPARATE LANE FOR THE SERVICE VEHICLES TO UTILIZE. SO THEY WILL BE SEPARATE. IT'S REALLY THAT'S THE KEY ELEMENT, YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER BLOOM. IN THE ONE PHOTO THAT YOU HAD, THERE WAS A SIDEWALK TO THE EAST BUT I DIDN'T SEE ONE TO THE WEST. AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THAT SIDEWALK IS REALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IT WAS THE PROJECTED VIEW AND YOU HAD A PERSON THERE AND EVERYTHING. OH, OKAY. LET ME SEE. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT WAS A RENDERING, SO I'M NOT SURE IF I DIDN'T REALLY FOCUS ON THE SIDEWALK. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. WE'RE NOT REBUILDING THE SIDEWALK EXCEPT WHERE WE'RE DISRUPTING IT. SO WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WE ARE AFFECTING IT IN FRONT OF IT, BUT WE'RE RETURNING BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REMOVE IT UNLESS WE HAVE TO, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD IT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT TIES IN WITH OUR CROSSWALK THAT WE'RE BUILDING. SO THAT IS ALL RECONSTRUCTION IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO WILL THAT THEN GO THE LENGTH OF THE BEARS CLUB ON EITHER SIDE, EAST AND WEST? I THINK IT DOES NOW, DOESN'T IT? YEAH, IT DOES. YES, MA'AM. NOTHING ELSE. OK, COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI. OH, I'M SORRY, I MISSED ONE. THAT'S OK. I'VE DRIVEN BY THERE AND I'VE SEEN THE CONGESTION. THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF CONGESTION, WHICH I GUESS WE CAN'T ADDRESS WITH THE CAR MOVERS TAKING ALL THE CARS UP THERE. THEY LIKE TO STACK UP THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT GERMANE TO TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION, RIGHT? TWO QUESTIONS. THE OAK TREES ARE ALL GOING TO BE SAVED? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE JUST RECENTLY INSTALLED OAK TREES. THIS WAS DONE BY THE BEARS CLUB FOUNDING PARTNERS WITH THE CONDO MILLENNIUM PROJECT THAT WE'RE BUILDING. SO THOSE OAK TREES, YES, WE'RE CAREFULLY TAKING CARE OF THEM. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND THEY WILL BE PRESERVED AS AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE IS BEHIND THE WALL, THE 8-FOOT WALL THAT'S THERE NOW, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI. YEAH, ONE QUICK QUESTION. HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT DETERMINING THE SIZE, THE LENGTH OF THE SPECIAL RIGHT TURN LANE THAT YOU'VE ESTABLISHED? WELL, WORKING WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY PRIMARILY AND THE TOWN ENGINEER, YOU KNOW, OUR ENGINEERS. I DON'T KNOW IF ERIC HERE, ERIC, YOU CAN GET THEM. HERE'S OUR, SEE, THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S LONG ENOUGH? I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF. FOR THE RECORD, BRIAN KELLY, TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH SIMMONS WHITE. SO A COUPLE THINGS WITH THE TURN LANE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ALSO DONE WITH THIS TURN LANE, YOU'LL SEE IN THE SITE PLAN, OR YOU CAN SEE IT, IT'S ACTUALLY OFFSET A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE HAVE SOME STRIPING THERE. AND YOU DON'T NORMALLY SEE THAT. THIS WAS ACTUALLY DONE SPECIFICALLY DUE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE SITE, WITH THE IDEA THAT IF THERE IS SOME QUEUING IN THAT EASTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE, IF THERE'S NOT THAT SEPARATION THERE, IT CREATES SOME SITE VISIBILITY ISSUES FOR PEOPLE EXITING ONTO FREDERICK SMALL ROAD. SO IT'S REALLY DONE FOR SAFETY PURPOSES DOING THAT. AS FAR AS THE LENGTH OF THE TURN LANE, IT WAS COORDINATION WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY. IT ACTUALLY EXCEEDS THEIR TURN LANE STANDARDS, SO WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE LARGE, LONG ENOUGH. NOT TO MENTION THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW WITH THE QUEUING IS IT'S EXASPERATED BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE LANE. SO IF YOU MAY HAVE A VISITOR OR SOMEONE ELSE THAT OR VISITOR OR A RESIDENT TRYING TO GET IN, THEY'RE STACKED UP RIGHT NOW BEHIND LANDSCAPE VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BYPASS THEM. SO WITH HAVING THESE TWO LANES, THAT'LL MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT AS WELL. SO LET ME ASK THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION REAL QUICK. UM, ACTUALLY I GOT TWO OF THEM. HOW MUCH IN EXCESS OF THE STANDARDS IS THE TURN LANE I'D HAVE TO LOOK. I THINK IT'S ABOUT 50 FEET IN EXCESS OF THE STANDARDS. THAT'S ABOUT 2 TRAILERS [00:20:02] FOR THE LANDSCAPER. WILL IT BE POSSIBLE FOR SOMEBODY IN THE EASTBOUND LANE OF FREDERICK SMALL TO BYPASS THAT AND MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURN TOWARDS THE I SHOULD SAY THE LEFT SIDE ENTRYWAY? THEORETICALLY, YES, BUT THAT COULD HAPPEN AT ANY TURN LANE ANYWHERE. SOMEONE COULD USE THE THROUGH LANE. TO BYPASS A RIGHT TURN LANE. SO THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROPER. JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU GUYS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE STAFF PROPOSED? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN COMMISSIONER KEENAN. MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ARE HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION. THERE'S A REFERENCE TO SECURITY CAMERAS BEING PLACED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. WELL, THERE ARE SECURITY CAMERAS PLACED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK THAT OUT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY, AND THAT'S ALSO IN COORDINATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE WHAT'S THERE NOW TO DO THE WORK, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET A PERMIT FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY IN ORDER TO REINSTALL ANY OF THOSE VIDEO CAMERAS. OKAY, THESE ARE PRIVATE SURVEILLANCE WITH THE SECURITY YOU HAVE ON SITE? YES, SIR. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO KEEP THOSE TWO LARGE OAK TREES. YES. YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE CHARM OF THAT AREA. I THINK IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. THE GENERATOR, I NOTICED IN THE CONDITIONS 5A AND 5B TO THE PUD WAIVER THAT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE GENERATOR. YOU THAT IS BECAUSE THE GENERATOR HAS TO MEET BUILDING SETBACKS, SO IT IS GETTING A REDUCTION TO THE BUILDING SETBACK, WHICH THEN IS A REDUCTION TO THE GENERATOR. AUTOMATIC, IF ONE IS DONE, THEN THE OTHER. YEAH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFICALLY STATED, CORRECT? OK. AND JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, I NOTICED THAT SOME OF THE PLANT MATERIAL LIKE THE PINK WIGGLER AND THAT ARE NOT ADVISED FOR THIS ZONE, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEAUTIFUL. I JUST THERE WERE A COUPLE PLANT MATERIAL THAT WERE ON THERE THAT WERE LIKE ZONE 4 TO 8, AND WE'RE 10. SO, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO BRING THAT UP JUST IN CASE. I THINK THEY'LL SURVIVE, AND WE WANTED TO GO MOSTLY NATIVE. I THINK WE'RE 100% NATIVES NOW, SO THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THAT. OKAY, AND THEN ON THE SITE PLAN, IT SHOWS THAT THE WALL ON FREDERICK SMALL IS AT LIKE 20 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK. BUT THE ELECTRIC LINES, WHEN I JUST KIND OF PACED IT OFF, WAS LIKE 24 FEET OFF OF THE SIDEWALK. AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN YOUR RENDERINGS, WHICH UNDERSTANDABLY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS PRETTY. BUT SO IS YOUR WALL GOING TO BE ON THE ROADSIDE OF THOSE ELECTRIC LINES OR ON THE INTERIOR SIDE OF THAT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTRIC LINES AT THE ENTRY OR ALONG FREDERICK SMALL? NO, THEY'RE GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE IN I MEAN, I THINK THAT ALL THE ELECTRIC LINES ARE ON THE PROPERTY LINE. SO WE'RE INSIDE THE INSIDE THOSE. OK, BECAUSE THEN IT'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST 25 FEET IN. WE'RE GOING TO BE WELL, RIGHT NOW IT RUNS 13.5 FEET. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN HERE, IT'S 13.5 FEET. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT INTO 20 FEET IN THIS LOCATION ALONG THERE. SO WE'RE I'M NOT SURE. I'M JUST SAYING WHEN I WALKED IT OFF, I WENT OUT THERE TODAY AND, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE ACTUAL FPL POLE WAS LIKE 24 FEET. SO I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DESIGNATION IS THERE, BUT WELL, WE SHOULDN'T REALLY HAVE TO ALTER THIS AREA IN FRONT OF THE WALL TOO MUCH. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CONFLICT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE WALL. OKAY. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE AND CHECK OUT. YEAH. AND THAT'S IT FOR ME. OKAY. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? NO, NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. OK, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON. ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? COMMISSIONER STERLING? NO, NO, COMMISSIONER BLUM. I REALLY APPRECIATE, BECAUSE I THINK THE SITE LOOKS TERRIBLE RIGHT NOW AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE LANDSCAPING ALONE, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY A GOOD IDEA. SO THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CASSATTLY? I'M JUST TRYING TO THERE'S NOT A BIKE LANE IN THAT AREA, RIGHT? I'M JUST WONDERING HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK WITH THE RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE. YEAH, I DON'T REMEMBER ONE, SEEING ONE. OKAY, NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OKAY, COMMISSIONER LUBOSKI? NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER VOGEL? NOPE. COMMISSIONER KEENAN? NO, THANKS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE AS WELL WITH COMMISSIONER BLUM. I THINK IT'S PERFECT SPOT FOR THE POA BUILDING. AND THAT'S IT. SO CAN I GET A [00:25:03] MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE BEARS CLUB PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT AND SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE BEARS CLUB PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT WITH 2 WAIVERS AND SITE PLAN. BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN EXHIBITS 1 AND 2 AND THE ADEQUACY OF THE PUBLIC BENEFITS. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROGEL? OKAY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL IN FAVOR? I'M SORRY. I WANTED TO GO AHEAD OF MYSELF. AYE. EVERYONE VOTE, PLEASE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. UNANIMOUS. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. I GUESS FROM ALL THE COMMENTS I MADE AN ASSUMPTION. OK. NO, WE HAVE TO WE HAVE ONE MORE TO VOTE. YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE SITE PLAN ALSO. OH, I THOUGHT WE THAT MOTION WAS TO THE PAD. OH, IT WAS JUST FOR THE ONE. OK, I MEANT TO DO BOTH TOGETHER. HE SAID AND SITE PLAN IN THE MOTION. IT'S A DIFFERENT EXHIBIT. YEAH, YOU DID. I DID IT AS A SINGLE ITEM. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I'M ALL RIGHT, IS THAT OKAY? NOPE, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE BEARS CLUB SITE PLAN APPLICATION? SURE, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE BEARS CLUB SITE PLAN APPLICATION TO CONSTRUCT A POA MAINTENANCE FACILITY BUILDING ON A 0.64-ACRE SITE, REDESIGN THE FREDERICK SMALL ROAD SECONDARY ENTRANCE, AND ADD A MANNED GUARDHOUSE APPLICATION. BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN EXHIBITS 2, INADEQUACY OF PUBLIC BENEFITS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. OKAY, MR. GRABOWSKI. AND ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. OK, OUR NEXT ITEM [3.Shoppes at Jupiter (Quasi-Judicial) – Site plan amendment to revise the architectural elevations, add an enclosed loading dock, modify uses, and reconfigure a portion of the parking lot, for a 24.9+/- acre property located at 101 N. US Highway One. (PZ 25-6584)] ON THE LIST IS THE SHOPS OF JUPITER SITE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION. THIS IS ALSO A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM. ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES? WE'LL START ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN. NO DISCLOSURES. COMMISSIONER ROGEL. DROVE BY. COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI. NO DISCLOSURES. I ALSO DROVE BY AND LOOKED AT IT. ON GOOGLE EARTH. COMMISSIONER CASSATTLY? I DROVE BY AND I USE THAT AREA QUITE A BIT, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT. COMMISSIONER BLUM? AGREE. I USE THAT AREA QUITE A BIT, SO I'M FAMILIAR. COMMISSIONER STERLING? I VISITED THE PROPERTY. OKAY. NOW I INVITE THE APPLICANT TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING. KEN TUMA WITH URBAN DESIGN STUDIO. PLEASURE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING. HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SHOPS AT THE JUPITER, IT IS OWNED BY RAM CORPORATION. RAM RECENTLY PURCHASED THE FACILITY WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST TO MODIFY THE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR WHAT IS IN TODAY IN THE BELL'S BUILDING TO ALLOW FOR A WHOLE FOODS TO BE PLACED IN THAT FACILITY. ALSO IS A TOTAL WINE IS COMING TO THE FACILITY, SO THERE ARE SEVERAL CHANGES TO IMPLEMENT THIS. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF. WE APPRECIATE GETTING HERE THIS EVENING. OUR WHOLE TEAM IS ASSEMBLED HERE. WE HAVE RAM DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE IN THE AUDIENCE. I'M GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RAM IN A FEW MINUTES, BUT RAM HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS. THEY OWN APPROXIMATELY 10 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND GUESS WHERE THEY'RE BASED OUT OF? 3 MILES DOWN THE ROAD IN PALM BEACH GARDENS. WE HAVE OUR ARCHITECT, MR. WEBER, HERE. HE CAN ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT ARCHITECTURE. WE HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER, MR. KERR, IS HERE TO HELP US OUT FOR MANY TRANSPORTATION ITEMS. WE HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, MR. LAU, IN THE BACK. HE'S WITH THOMAS ENGINEERING. I HAVE WITH ME KAYLA MCKENZIE. SHE'S GOING TO GIVE A PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION WITH URBAN DESIGN. AND THEN ALSO, UNFORTUNATELY, JANELLE VINCENT, WHO IS THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT SHE IS LISTENING. SHE TEXTED ME THIS EVENING. SO, SO I'M GOING TO ASK THIS MCKENZIE TO GET UP AFTER I TALK FOR A SECOND ABOUT RAM. THEIR WHOLE TEAM IS HERE THIS EVENING. AS I SAID, THEY HAVE BEEN A BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 45 YEARS. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED TO PURCHASE THIS FACILITY. THIS IS NOT THEIR FIRST REDEVELOPMENT OF AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY OFFICE WORKED ON THIS PROJECT IN 1978. I WAS 9 YEARS OLD. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND. THINGS CHANGE. WHAT'S OLD IS NEW AND WHAT'S NEW IS OLD. PARAPETS CAME IN IN 1991. HERE WE ARE IN 2026, WE WANT TO TAKE PARAPETS OUT. AND THEN ALSO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER TIME. THIS CENTER HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED FROM A REAL CHANGE IN ABOUT 24 YEARS. SO I'M GOING TO ASK MS. MCKENZIE TO GET UP AND SPEAK TO YOU FOR A FEW MINUTES ABOUT THE REQUEST THAT IS [00:30:01] IN FRONT OF YOU. THEN I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND WALK THROUGH ARCHITECTURE AND ZONING AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. THANK YOU. KAYLA. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS KAYLA MCKENZIE. SO MOVING BACK INTO THE PRESENTATION. HERE YOU CAN SEE AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE, AND WE'RE LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF US HIGHWAY 1 AND INDIAN TOWN ROAD. GETTING A CLOSER LOOK, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE SURROUNDING USES OF THE SITE, AND ALSO THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF C-2 AND THE LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL THAT WILL NOT BE CHANGING AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. AND SOME OF THE EXISTING USES ON SITE ARE THE RETAIL RESTAURANTS, MOVIE THEATER, AND THE 3 FREESTANDING BUILDINGS ALONG US HIGHWAY 1, AND OUR OFFICE JUST WANTS TO NOTE THAT THE TEAM HAS MET WITH THE OCEAN PARKS BOARD OF DIRECTORS EARLIER THIS YEAR IN JANUARY, AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE REVIEW CYCLE. SO, SHOWING SOME OF THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON SITE, TO THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THE BACK OF HOUSE WITH DUMPSTERS THAT AREN'T IN ENCLOSURES AND UNMAINTAINED LANDSCAPING ALONG THE EXISTING WALL. ALONG WITH THE PHOTOS ON THE RIGHT, YOU COULD SEE THE FRONT FACADE OF THE STAPLES AND THE BELLS THAT WILL BE REPLACED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. SO, IN ORDER TO CORRECT SOME OF THESE DISPARITIES, OUR OFFICE IS PROPOSING 3 FORMAL REQUESTS. SO, THE FIRST IS TO CHANGE SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND BUILDING MATERIALS THAT YOU SAW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. ALSO, SECOND, WE'RE ADDING AN ENCLOSED LOADING DOCK AREA IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING TO SERVE THE INCOMING GROCERY USE. THIRD, WE'RE REARRANGING THE ONSITE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE SHOPPING CART CORRALS AND 3 SHORT-TERM PICKUP SPACES. AND FOURTH, WE'RE HAVING A CHANGE OF USE OF ONE TENANT FROM INDOOR FITNESS TO GENERAL RETAIL, WHICH WILL INCLUDE ENCLOSING 9 SQUARE FEET AT THE FRONTAGE OF THE BUILDING. SO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO WALK THROUGH EACH OF THOSE IN MORE DETAIL THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION. TURN IT BACK OVER TO KEN. THANK YOU. SO THE CHANGE IN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU SO WE DO HAVE SOME CHANGES IN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. THE SITE HERE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'LL NOTICE THE BELL'S FACILITY. YOU'LL SEE THE PARAPETS THE ARCHED ROOFS, WHICH BY THE WAY WERE PLACED IN IT WERE A REQUEST TO CHANGE, ADD THOSE IN 1991 WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS A PUBLIX. SO JUST FOR A FRAME OF REFERENCE, THE BELL'S BACK IN THE MID-'80S WAS A PUBLIX, AND THEN WHEN THE SHOPPING CENTER OPENED ACROSS THE STREET, IT ACTUALLY MOVED TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN THIS BUILDING WAS THE EXISTING PUBLIC SITE THAT WAS THERE TILL THE EARLY 1990S. AT THAT TIME, A REQUEST WAS COME IN FOR BELL'S TO ADD THOSE ARCHES TO THE FACILITY. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TIMES CHANGE AND SO DOES ARCHITECTURAL STYLES. BUT JUST FOR A FRAME OF REFERENCE, YOU'LL NOTICE THIS ROOF, THE PARAPET, AND THE ARCH ALL THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. THE PROPOSAL IS TO REPLACE IT WITH A WHOLE FOODS. YOU CAN NOTICE THE PARAPETS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, AND I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL OF THIS. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE'S COVERED PARKING HERE FOR GROCERY PICKUP AREA. THESE ARE METAL CANOPIES WITH ROOF AND RECESSED LIGHTING, REPLACING THAT, THAT, REPLACING THAT WOOD, REPLACING THAT METAL ROOFING AREA HERE. SO BASICALLY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING REMAINS EXACTLY THE SAME. WE'RE REPLACING IT WITH A METAL CANOPY AND RECESSED LIGHTING TO MAKE IT A NICE PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY AREA. THEN YOU'LL NOTE HERE, WE'VE CONTINUED THAT LOOK, DOUBLE STOREFRONT WINDOWS ALONG THE FRONT AND DOUBLE STOREFRONT WINDOWS ALONG THAT WHOLE FOODS AREA. SO THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING. JUST FOR A FRAME OF REFERENCE, THAT'S WHAT EXISTS TODAY, AND THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS IN A PERSPECTIVE VIEW. SO AN ELEVATION VIEW, HERE'S WHAT'S PHYSICALLY CHANGING. THE PARAPETS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE HAVE CHANGED. WE HAVE DOUBLE-STACK GLASS, STOREFRONT GLASS. YOU HAVE THIS CANOPY. YOU'LL NOTICE THE USE OF ACCENT COLORS. MR. WEBER HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF ARTICULATING DIFFERENT COLORS WHILE KEEPING IT WITHIN THE GENERAL TONE. OF THE STAIN, OF THE WHITE COLOR. HE ALSO HAS THESE CANOPIES. HE HAS A WAINSCOT OF STONE, VERMEER BEING HERE. AND THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING ACROSS THE ENTIRE CENTER. SO WE ARE CONTINUING THAT ALL ALONG THE CENTER, ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MOVIE THEATER. KEN, WHY AREN'T YOU IMPROVING THE MOVIE THEATER? WE CAN'T. THERE ARE LEASE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. MAYBE SOMETIME IN THE THE FUTURE, BUT ALL THE CENTER IS BEING CHANGED AND BROUGHT UP TO THIS NEW STOREFRONT IN THE NEW CLEAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, BASICALLY FROM BELL'S ALL THE WAY TO THE MOVIE THEATER. IT'S IDENTIFIED ON THE SCREEN AS YOU MOVE FURTHER WEST. THIS LARGE SPACE IS THE FUTURE LOCATION [00:35:01] OF TOTAL WINES, AND THEN THIS IS THE REST OF CENTER, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MOVIE THEATER STARTS. SO THE NEXT ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING TO LOOK AT IS LOADING DOCKS. THE EXISTING LOADING DOCKS TODAY ARE EXTERNAL. THERE'S NO COVER, THERE'S NO WALL, THERE'S NOTHING THAT BLOCKS THEM. THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING IS TO CHANGE THAT. AND THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'LL SEE THE AREA IDENTIFIED IN YELLOW. THE AREA IDENTIFIED IN YELLOW IS AN ENCLOSED LOADING DOCK AREA, AND HERE'S WHERE THE TRUCKS BACK UP INTO. THIS RED LINE, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN PLAN VIEW OR IN SECTION IN A SECOND, IS A 12-FOOT-HIGH WALL WITH LANDSCAPING ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO IT REALLY DOES A NICE JOB FROM WHAT'S THERE TODAY, WHICH IS BASICALLY A BLANK WALL AGAINST THE BUILDING. SO THIS IS THE VIEW OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. THIS RED LINE IDENTIFIES A 12-FOOT-HIGH SCREEN WALL FOR LOADING. YOU'LL NOTICE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF HEDGES OR PROTOCARPUS HEDGE ALL THE WAY ALONG THE BOTTOM. AND THEN ALONG THIS BLANK WALL IN THE BACK, WE'RE ABLE TO CREATE A TRELLIS FEATURE, AND THAT TRELLIS FEATURE WITH VINES AND HEDGE IT'S ACTUALLY A JASMINE HEDGE, IT'S A JASMINE HEDGE IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, OR VINE. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO ON A COUPLE OTHER SLIDES IDENTIFY WHERE WE'RE DOING DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES. THERE AREN'T ANY DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES BEHIND THESE BUILDINGS TODAY. THOSE WILL BE ADDED. YOUR TOWN STAFF HAS WORKED WITH US DILIGENTLY TO COME UP WITH DESIGN THAT MAKES SENSE TO BE ABLE TO ENCLOSE THOSE. IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA BEHIND WHOLE FOODS, IT'S A A COMPACTOR, BUT THE OTHER AREAS ARE STANDARD DUMPSTERS AND THOSE WILL BE ENCLOSED. SO HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY BEHIND THE CENTER. AGAIN, THE CENTER HAS BEEN TOUCHED FOR 24 YEARS. LUCKY THAT RAM HAS INVESTED INTO THIS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO REDEFINING WHAT THE CENTER IS. OUR GOAL AND RESPONSIBILITY AS PLANNERS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF IS HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION. THERE ARE NONCONFORMING USES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT PERFECT, BUT WE'RE MAKING A COUPLE STEPS BETTER THAN WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. SO ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS IS A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE BEING PROPOSED. YOU'LL NOTICE USE OF COCO PLUMS AND FENCING AND HEDGES, OR WALLS IN THIS CASE, ALL THE WAY AROUND THE FACILITY WITH A GATE, AND THAT WILL WHAT THESE DUMPSTERS WILL BE ENCLOSED IN. SO TODAY ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE EXISTING DUMPSTERS THAT DO NOT HAVE ENCLOSURES. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO ENCLOSE THOSE WITH WHAT YOU SAW ON THE EARLIER PAGES. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THERE IS AN EXISTING DUMPSTER THERE THAT DOES HAVE AN ENCLOSURE. WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE THAT WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING TO RECONFIGURE SOME PARKING AND ADD CAR CORRALS AND PICKUP SPACES FOR GROCERIES. WHOLE FOODS, AS PART OF THEIR PICKUP PROGRAM, HAS YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, RIGHT? YOU DRIVE THERE, NOW PEOPLE BRING OUT GROCERIES INTO YOUR CAR, AND THAT'S IN ESSENCE WHAT THESE ARE. SO OOPS, WRONG WAY. OKAY. SO WE'RE PROPOSING 7 PARKING CORRALS, 5 OF THEM FOR THE WHOLE FOODS AREA AND 2 IN FRONT OF TOTAL WINE. THOSE CAR CORRALS ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN. AND THEN IN PLAN VIEW AND SECTION VIEW, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD A SIGNIFICANT THEY'RE ABOUT 6.5 FEET WIDE, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING THAT WE COULD FIT IN THAT LANDSCAPING, AND IT'S PROTOCARPUS. AND THEN ALSO, THERE'S LANDSCAPING IN THE ADJACENT TREE ISLAND THAT IS ADJACENT TO EACH ONE OF THESE. SOME HAVE SABLE PALMS, SOME HAVE AND SOME HAVE SHADE TREES, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE WITHIN THE CENTER. WE'RE ASKING TO ADD THESE 7 CURBSIDE PICKUP SPACES. WE KNOW THEY DON'T COUNT FOR YOUR REQUIRED PARKING, BUT WE ARE ASKING TO ADD THOSE 7 CURBSIDE PICKUP SPACES. THOSE WILL HAVE THE CANOPY OF IN OVER THEM. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF THIS IS LOOKING FROM INDIAN TOWN ROAD NORTH AT WHAT IS NOW THE BELL CENTER. AND SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO ADD THE METAL CANOPY FOR THESE SPOTS. AND THEN WHEN IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THERE, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THE CHAIR MAY HAVE WENT BY THERE TODAY, YOU'LL NOTE ON THE SOUTH SIDE THERE IS REALLY NO LANDSCAPING THERE TODAY AT ALL. SO WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING PALMS. BUT WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF, CREATING SOME CUTOUTS, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD SOME LANDSCAPING TO THAT, AGAIN, TRYING TO GET THE NONCONFORMITY CLOSER THAN WHAT IT SHOULD BE. AND YOU'LL NOTICE WE'VE ADDED TWO TRELLISES HERE ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THAT HAS CONFEDERATE JASMINE AND SOME LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THAT AREA. PARKING SO WE DO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING. THIS SITE HAS HAD A SHARED PARKING ANALYSIS. I'M NOT GOING TO WALK THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL. MR. KERR IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT WE HAVE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING. WE HAVE 1,036. NOW, THERE IS A CONDITION APPROVAL IN THE BACK THAT I'M GOING TO REQUEST TO DISCUSS JUST FOR A SECOND WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT. BUT IN ESSENCE, TO MEET TO MAKE THAT MATCH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY REDUCED THE PART THERE ARE SEATS IN THE MOVIE THEATER, SO THERE'S A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF SEATS THAT ARE APPROVED IN THE MOVIE THEATER. RAM HAS AGREED TO REMOVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT [00:40:01] OF SEATS SEATS, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 40, I'LL GET THE EXACT NUMBERS IN A SECOND AND THAT'S HOW WE HAVE MATCHED THE PARKING. AND THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN TO A MOVIE THERE RECENTLY, I HAVE, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. THEIR MOVIE THEATERS HAVE CHANGED, AS YOU KNOW, THE SEATS HAVE GOTTEN A LOT BIGGER AND A LOT LESS PEOPLE ATTEND THOSE MOVIES. BUT WE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, AND MR. KIRK CAN GO THROUGH THAT IN DETAIL. WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING A MINOR MODIFICATION OF USES, THAT MINOR MODIFICATION OF USES IS A CHANGE INDOOR FITNESS TO GENERAL RETAIL. AND THEN ALSO OUR BIG ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE, WE HAVE 9 SQUARE FEET THAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO ADD TO THE SITE BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXISTING KIND OF A DOORWAY AND WE'RE ASKING TO CLOSE THAT OFF. SO THAT'S THE, THE MAJOR ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO ADD TO THE CENTER. AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN THE REAR OF THE SITE, AND THIS IS ADJACENT TO OUR FRIENDS AT OCEAN OCEAN PARK, WHO I KNOW ARE HERE THIS EVENING. WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON TRYING, LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE THAT SITUATION? WE HAVE MET WITH THEM BY ZOOM A COUPLE TIMES, BUT FIRST THING, WE'RE MODIFYING THE REAR OF THAT. WE'RE WORKING ON THE DRY VALLEY THAT'S IN THAT AREA BEHIND. THAT DRY VALLEY IS NOT VERY HELPFUL. WE'RE MAINTAINING THE PAVEMENT. WE'RE RESTRIPING ALL THE AREAS BACK THERE. THE CENTER HAS NOT HAD A LOT OF LOVE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND YOUR STAFF WORKING WITH RAM HAVE WE HAVE AGREED TO DO THAT AND CREATE THAT LAVA, AND THAT'S IN THAT REAR AREA. SO THIS IS EXISTING CONDITION TODAY, AND THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENT. IT CAME FROM YOUR STAFF. THERE WAS AN INGRESS AND EGRESS IMPROVEMENT, AND AFTER WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, WE SAID THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. WHEN YOU LEAVE TODAY, WHEN YOU LEAVE THE SITE, WHEN YOU LEAVE OCEAN PARK, OR WHEN YOU LEAVE OUR SITE THOSE TWO ROADS MERGE TOGETHER IN THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER. IT'S KIND OF AN AWKWARD INTERSECTION. AND THEN THERE'S AN EXISTING WALL THERE. AND LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING HERE. THERE OOPS THERE'S AN EXISTING WALL. AND THAT ONE EACH ONE OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS OUT IS A STOP CONDITION, GENERALLY IN THIS AREA. AND THAT STOP CONDITION IS ACTUALLY BLOCKED BY THIS WALL. SO IF YOU COULD SEE ON THIS SCREEN, YOU COULD BARELY SEE THE STOP SIGN. THAT I'M CIRCLING, THAT'S A STOP CONDITION. ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER STOP CONDITION AS YOU'RE LEAVING THIS FACILITY, AND IT'S BEHIND THE WALL. SO WORKING WITH YOUR TOWN ENGINEERS, THEY SUGGESTED, AND WE AGREE AFTER OUR ENGINEER LOOKED AT IT, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WALL SO THERE'S A GOOD LINE OF SIGHT SO THOSE VEHICLES CAN SEE EACH OTHER. IT'S A DIFFICULT INTERSECTION TO IMPROVE BEYOND THAT. IT WAS A SITUATION ESTABLISHED A LONG TIME AGO, BUT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STEP IN IMPROVING THAT INTERSECTION. LET ME SHOW YOU IN PLAN VIEW. SO BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING A LITTLE BIT OF WALL, ADDING THESE STOP BARS RIGHT HERE, AND ADDING STOP SIGNS SO THEY COULD SEE EACH OTHER. SO IT'LL BE A MUCH BETTER USE IT MIGHT BE A MUCH BETTER USE OF TIME. I'M OUT OF TIME, I'M GOING TO MOVE REALLY FAST. OKAY, SO WE ARE IMPROVING THE ENTRY POINT, ROYAL PALMS, AND AT THE MAIN INTERSECTION, REMOVING THE COCONUTS AND AGUACATE PALMS, AND WE ARE ADDING PORTULACARPUS HEDGE EAST AND WEST OR PORTULACARPUS HEDGE ON THE EAST SIDE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO MAKE THAT WALL LOOK MUCH MORE PRETTY. AND THEN WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS BOTH ALONG THE REAR, AND REALLY IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY IF YOU TOOK A DRIVE OUT THERE TODAY, PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF POWER LINES HERE, SO WE SPENT SOME TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT MATERIAL, THE SIMPSON STOPPER TREE, IN THE COCOA PLUM HEDGE WILL BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO ALONG THAT WALL. THERE ARE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ARE REALLY STORMWATER RELATED. MR. LAU AND CIVIL ENGINEERING TEAM ARE DOING IMPROVEMENTS TODAY. IT IS A IT IS A DIRECT DISCHARGE INTO THE MANGROVE AREA. WE'VE COME UP WITH A FILTER SYSTEM, WORK WITH MR. LAU TO BE ABLE TO HELP PROTECT THAT AREA IN A BETTER POSITION THAN IT IS TODAY. THERE IS A REMOVAL OF THE EXOTIC PLANTS THAT IS IN PROCESS THAT IN THE MANGROVE AREA. AGAIN, RAM JUST TOOK OVER THIS PROPERTY AND THEY ARE UPGRADING IT. PLEASE GO AHEAD AND WRAP IT UP. I'M DONE, MA'AM. I ONLY THE ONLY THING I'D HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE CHAIR, I DO HAVE TWO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT APPROPRIATE TIME IS NOW OR AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. THE APPROPRIATE TIME WOULD BE NOW, CORRECT? YES, PART OF THE PRESENTATION IS FINE WITH THAT. WE'LL GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL 3 MINUTES TO OH, IT'LL BE LESS THAN THAT. I'LL GO REALLY FAST. YES, MA'AM. SO CONDITION NUMBER 5, SHARED PARKING. THE WAY THIS CONDITION IS WRITTEN, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF, BASICALLY SAYS, HEY, YOU HAVE TO REMOVE SEATS FROM YOU HAVE TO REMOVE SEATS FROM THE MOVIE THEATER TO ALLOW CERTAIN USES TO OCCUR. WE AGREE IN CONCEPT. THE ONLY CHANGE I'M ASKING FOR BY THE WORDS THAT I'VE ASKED FOR IS IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE IS AN ICE CREAM SHOP A MOVES OUT, ICE CREAM SHOP B MOVES OUT, WE DON'T WANT TO BE STOPPED FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THAT. SO BASICALLY, THE WAY THIS CONDITION IS WRITTEN, WHAT WE THINK A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT IS, INSTEAD OF [00:45:02] FOR ANY INTERIOR BUILD-OUT IN THE PLAZA, THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE TO A CHANGE IN USE OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT INCREASES DEMAND WITHIN THE PLAZA INCREASES PARKING DEMAND WITHIN THE PLAZA, VERSUS IF KEN'S ICE CREAM GOES OUT, AND, AND JOHN'S ICE CREAM COMES IN AND HE HAS TO CHANGE SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST. THE NEXT ONE IS CONDITION NUMBER 06, AND THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY AN IMPORTANT ONE. AND MR. KERR IS HERE, AND HE COULD CERTAINLY ADDRESS THIS IN MORE DETAIL. CONDITION NUMBER 6 IS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND ABOUT DEDICATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY OR EASEMENTS. WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE WOULD DEDICATE OR WE WOULD PROVIDE AN EASEMENT FOR 10 FEET OF LAND ON THE NORTH SIDE. WE'RE ABSOLUTELY WILLING TO DO THAT. THERE IS ALSO A SUGGESTION OF CONSTRUCTING A ROUNDABOUT EXCUSE ME, PARTICIPATING IN A ROUNDABOUT. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CONDITION, BUT WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SUGGESTED ROUNDABOUT. AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF TODAY, AND THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS. ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS THE ROUNDABOUT THAT IS ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU. YOU. THAT ROUNDABOUT ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU IS A REAL PROBLEM FOR US JUST PHYSICALLY. WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE CONCEPT OF THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT PROVIDING ACCESS TO IT ACTUALLY ELIMINATES 32 PARKING SPOTS. THIS IS INDIANTOWN ROAD GOING EAST-WEST, AND, UH, AND THIS IS A ROUNDABOUT, AND THIS DOESN'T WORK FOR US BECAUSE IT ELIMINATES A LOT OF PARKING. HOWEVER, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF, AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS POTENTIALLY A BETTER SOLUTION NOT HAVING EGRESS INTO OUR SITE, BUT CREATING A ROUNDABOUT. AND WHERE THAT ROUNDABOUT COMES FROM, WAY BACK IN 2015, YOU DID A MOBILITY STUDY WHICH SAID WE NEED TO DO A U-TURN, THE ABILITY TO HAVE A U-TURN ON INDIAN TOWN ROAD. THIS WORKS FOR US, AND WE'RE WILLING TO, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO GRANT THE EASEMENTS NECESSARY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. WE CERTAINLY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF. WE'VE BEEN COMING UP WITH IDEAS OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO ATTENTION. AND I KNOW, MADAM CHAIR, I'M OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OK, AND THOSE ARE CONDITIONS. WHAT WERE THE TWO CONDITIONS? 5 AND 6. OK. OK, THE STAFF, IF YOU PLEASE GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION. HI, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSION. FOR THE RECORD, JENNA JOHNSON WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR SHOPS AT JUPITER. TO REVISE THEIR ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS, ADD AN APPROXIMATELY 01,200-SQUARE-FOOT ENCLOSED LOADING DOCK, WHICH DOES CONTRIBUTE TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PLAZA OUTSIDE OF JUST THE 9 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL IDENTIFIED IN THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL. UM, IN ADDITION, THE APPLICATION INCLUDES RECONFIGURING A PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT AND MODIFYING USES. THE PROPOSED REQUIRES REVIEW THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS DUE TO SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC RESULTING FROM THE THE ADDITION OF A SUPERMARKET USE AND THE CHANGE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS. STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND DETERMINED THE PROPOSED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE TOWN CODE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT 1. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BEFORE THE INDIAN TOWN ROAD OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN EXISTING LEGAL NONCONFORMITIES. DUE TO THE SCALE OF REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION, IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE INCENTIVES TO REDEVELOPMENT SECTION OF THE TAWD CODE AND IS NOT REQUIRED TO BRING THE ENTIRE SITE UP TO TODAY'S CODE REQUIREMENTS, BUT IT IS REQUIRED TO BRING THE SITE CLOSER TO CONFORMANCE, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS MADE EFFORTS TO DO. STAFF HAS INCLUDED CONDITIONS TO FURTHER BRING THE PROPERTY TO CONFORMANCE, INCLUDING REVISING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL PERIMETER PLANTINGS, AS WELL AS STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. THE INCENTIVES FOR REDEVELOPMENT CODE ALSO REQUIRES THE PROVISION OF NECESSARY EASEMENTS. AS DISCUSSED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE HAVE BEEN ACCESS CONCERNS IDENTIFIED PRIMARILY AT THE SOUTHEAST ENTRANCE TO THE PLAZA, WHICH IS AN ACCESS POINT ANTICIPATED TO SEE GREATER USE WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SUPERMARKET. TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN, THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS DRAFTED A SKETCH CONCEPT OF A TRAFFIC CIRCLE, WHICH INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT D. UH, THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE PROPERTY AT MINIMUM TO DEDICATE A RIGHT-OF-WAY EASEMENT. UM, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED CONCERNS WITH MEETING RIGHT-OF-WAY, UM, AS PART OF THE STAFF REPORT, BUT UPON FURTHER REVIEW, STAFF HAS CONFIRMED THAT THIS PORTION OF INDIANTOWN ROAD IS A MINOR ARTERIAL, AND IT DOES MEET THE RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIREMENTS FOR A MINOR ARTERIAL. THAT BEING SAID, WHILE THERE IS STILL A CONCERN REGARDING MEETING CODE REQUIREMENTS REGARDING NECESSARY RIGHTS FOR FUTURE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO BE PROVIDED, THERE'S NOT A CODE CONCERN REGARD REGARDING ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY. CONDITION 6 WITHIN THE EXHIBIT IDENTIFIES THAT THE OWNER PROVIDE THE EASEMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE [00:50:02] TRAFFIC CIRCLE OR PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE ACCESS IMPROVEMENT. THE APPLICANT INCLUDED AS PART OF THEIR PRESENTATION A DESIGN ALTERNATIVE FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE. THIS WILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT THE PRIMARY CONCERN IDENTIFIED BY STAFF AT THIS POINT IS THE SHIFT ONTO THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY, WHICH HAS NOT COME IN FOR REDEVELOPMENT, AND THERE IS NO INDICATION FOR WHEN THEY MAY REDEVELOP IN THE FUTURE. UM, I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR CONDITION 5 WITHIN THE EXHIBIT RELATED TO REMOVAL FOR THE THEATER. SEATS. THIS CONDITION WAS INCLUDED BECAUSE THE REMOVAL OF THESE SEATS IS REQUIRED TO MEET THE PLAZA SHARED PARKING, BUT STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO ENSURE THE LANGUAGE MEETS THE INTENT WHILE NOT INHIBITING UNASSOCIATED PERMITS. LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURE CHANGES. THE APPLICANT, AS SHOWN IN THEIR PRESENTATION, IS PROPOSING A CONTEMPORARY DESIGN STYLE, REMOVING THE ARCHED ENTRY PARAPETS, AND INCLUDING THROUGHOUT THE PLAZA THE ADDITION OF A COVERED CANOPY, STONE VENEER WAINSCOTS, AND A WHITE BUILDING COLOR WITH GRAY ACCENTS. REVISIONS TO THE THEATER ELEVATIONS ARE NOT BEING PROPOSED AT THIS TIME, AS DISCUSSED, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO REVISING THE ELEVATIONS TO COMPLEMENT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL AT TIME THAT LEASING ALLOWS FOR THE THEATER. AND WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, BUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. WE WILL GO TO THE COMMISSION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF. STAFF, WE'LL START ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN. JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC, YOU MADE THE STAFF MADE MENTION OF NO DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF INDIAN TOWN ROAD TO THE SOUTH? THERE'S NO PLANS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THERE? YES, THE PROPOSED EXHIBIT BY THE APPLICANT DOES SHOW IT SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT SOUTH. THAT ONE? YES, THAT ONE. AND SO YES, THEY HAVEN'T COME IN FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY MIGHT. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. HAS THERE BEEN I MEAN, MAYBE I'M SURE MAYBE YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND THERE'S A REASON WHY IT WOULD NEVER WORK, BUT ONE THOUGHT I HAD WAS, WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO LIMITING INGRESS TO COMING IN OFF OF ROUTE 1 AND LIMITING EGRESS TO GOING OUT ON INDIAN TOWN. THAT IS TO SAY, THERE'S NO INCOMING OFF OF INDIAN TOWN, ONLY OUTGOING. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU GET IN IS FROM ROUTE 1. SO BY LIMITING THE INGRESS AND THE EGRESS, YOU AVOID A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. JUST A THOUGHT. THERE IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THERE IS AN ALCOVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PLAZA. AS I RECALL, I THINK IT HAS IT'S GRASS-COVERED ALCOVE. IT'S KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE NEAR A RESTAURANT. WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THAT? ARE THERE ANY? AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT AREA, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE GRASS IN THIS AREA? I THINK IT'S A GRASSY AREA AND IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED WHOLE FOODS AND THE PROPOSED TOTAL WINE. IT'S BETWEEN THOSE TWO. OR SOME MORE SO. IT'S IN FRONT OF THE PARISIAN RESTAURANT, I THINK? CORRECT. YEAH. IT'S A GRASS ALCOVE AREA, YES. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP IT AS A GRASS ALCOVE AREA? YES. OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE COVERED AREAS? ARE THERE ANY COVERED AREAS THERE? IN THE SAME AREA? I BELIEVE THERE'S AN AWNING. IT'S NOT SHOWN IN THIS PLAN VIEW, BUT YES. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO STAY AS IS? WELL, AND THERE WILL BE OUTDOOR SEATING TOO. RIGHT, OUTDOORS. WELL, THE RESTAURANT CURRENTLY HAS OUTDOOR SEATING THERE. IS THERE A PLAN TO PUT A ROOF OVER THAT OUTDOOR SEATING? YEAH. I THOUGHT I SAW THAT SOMEWHERE, BUT I WASN'T SURE. NO, I KNOW I DON'T THINK SO. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR ARCHITECT TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER A ROOF IN THE PROPOSAL. OKAY. HEY, I'M BRIAN MALONEY WITH RAM, AND THIS IS BOB WEBER, ARCHITECT. I BELIEVE THERE'S A CANOPY ALONG THOSE SHOPS. THERE'S A CANOPY, YEAH, THERE'S IT DOESN'T EXTEND OVER THE EXISTING. YEAH, IT WON'T IT WOULDN'T EXTEND PAST LIKE WHERE THAT SEATING IS, THAT OUTDOOR SEATING AREA RIGHT, THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA. IT DOESN'T COME OUT THAT FAR? THAT WOULDN'T BE COVERED. IT WOULDN'T GO THAT FAR. OH, THAT'S A SHAME. YEAH. THERE IS A CANOPY ALONG THE ALCOVE ALONG THE SHOPS THERE. YEAH, EXACTLY. OK. THANK YOU. I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION. WITH RESPECT TO THE REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF SEATS IN THE THEATER, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE THEATER HAD CERTAIN [00:55:01] LEASE AGREEMENTS THAT MADE IT DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH. HOW IS IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO IMPOSE A RESTRICTION OR REDUCTION IN SEATAGE? I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO DEFER TO RAM ON THAT ONE. THE THEATER WANTS TO BE IN THE PROJECT LONG-TERM, AND WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT STAYING IN THE PROJECT LONG-TERM. YOU KNOW, THEIR BUSINESSES CHANGE AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SEATS AND THEY DON'T NEED ALL THOSE SEATS. I THINK WHAT'S SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM NOW IS THE LARGER SEATS THAT ARE RECLINERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHERE THEY'VE BEEN INVESTING THEIR MONEY INTO THEIR SPACE. AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, HOPEFULLY NOT TOO NEAR FUTURE, WE'LL WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND WE'LL TO DOWNSIZE AND AT THAT TIME WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THEIR REMAINING ELEVATION WOULD BE AND THEN HOW WE WOULD RETENANT THE NEIGHBOR THERE AND WHAT THAT ELEVATION WOULD BE. AND WE'RE JUST NOT READY TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME. BUT WE DO HAVE ASSURANCES FROM THEM THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, REALLY WANT TO DOWNSIZE AND RIGHT-SIZE THEIR BUSINESS. SO YOU HAVE A COOPERATIVE PARTY. YOU CAN'T OPPOSE IT, BUT YOU'RE THEY'RE COOPERATIVE. THEY'RE VERY COOPERATIVE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROVELL. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE BIG ISSUE WOULD BE TRAFFIC. WHAT HAPPENS IN TERMS OF THE ADDED CONGESTION WHEN THE BRIDGE OPENS AND EVERYTHING GETS BACKED UP? I HAVE LITERALLY BEEN ON INDIAN TOWN CLOSE TO A1A AS A RESULT OF THE BRIDGE BEING OPEN? GOOD EVENING. ADAM KERR WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, TRAFFIC ENGINEER. WE DID WORK THROUGH WITH THE TOWN STAFF TO ENSURE THAT ANY OF THE TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THIS COULD BE ACCOMMODATED ON THE ROADWAYS ON ON US 1 AS WELL AS INDIANTOWN AND SOME OTHER ROADS. THE BRIDGE OPENING IS AN EXISTING CONDITION. I WAS OUT THERE LAST WEEK WAITING FOR A LONG TIME AS WELL. SO THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS SITE, EVEN IF THERE IS THE CONGESTION ON INDIANTOWN DUE TO THE BRIDGE OPENING, THEY DO HAVE THE ACCESS ON US 1. SO IF THERE IS CONGESTION OR BACKUP ON INDIANTOWN, THEY'RE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE SITE AND HAVE THE FULL ACCESS. SIGNAL ON US 1. ALSO, PEOPLE'S SHOPPING HABITS SEEM TO HAVE CHANGED. I KNOW OURS HAVE. AND YOU HAVE MULTIPLE STOPS WHEN YOU GO GROCERY SHOPPING. INCLUDE YOU COULD BOTH WANT TO GO TO WHOLE FOODS AND TO PUBLIX. WITH THE ROUNDABOUT, IT SEEMS EASIER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT IT SEEMS TO COMPLICATE MATTERS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE TWO CENTERS. SO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO MUCH LIKE TODAY, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO FROM WHERE THE WHOLE FOODS WOULD BE TO THE PUBLIX, THEY HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS, BUT LIKELY THEY WOULD EXIT SORT OF THE SOUTHEASTERNMOST DRIVEWAY, AND THEN COME BACK ON INDIAN TOWN, GO THROUGH THE NEW ROUNDABOUT TO THE WEST OF THERE, AND THEN INTO PUBLIX. AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO THE WAY THEY WOULD DO IT NOW. THERE WOULD JUST BE A ROUNDABOUT THERE. SO THE YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THE ROUNDABOUT THAT YOU PUT FORTH AND WOULD BE FINE IF THAT WERE BUILT? YES. OKAY, COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI. SO HOLD ON, I GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC, BUT BACK ON THIS SUBJECT, RIGHT NOW THE ROUNDABOUT IS NOT BEING MANDATED, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S JUST EASEMENTS BEING PUT INTO PLACE FOR TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN FOR YEAH. SO WHAT AND I NOTICED THE WORDS TRIGGERING. WAS IT WHAT TRIGGERING EVENT WOULD BE REQUIRED THAT THAT ROUNDABOUT BE INSTALLED? CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE? THERE'S NO TRIGGER FROM A VOLUME PERSPECTIVE THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND I APOLOGIZE, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WASN'T AVAILABLE TONIGHT. I'LL DO MY BEST TO ARTICULATE WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO THERE'S NO VOLUME TRIGGER HERE, BUT IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN THAT WAS IDENTIFIED BY THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR TURNING MOVEMENTS. PEOPLE FREQUENTLY CUT ACROSS AND THEY SIT IN THAT, UM, GORED OUT SECTION AND MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN THERE. SO THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY, [01:00:01] TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER, TO ADDRESS THAT SAFETY CONCERN AND IDENTIFY TO ALLOW FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TURNING MOVEMENTS IN THAT AREA. IT WOULD NEED TO BE FURTHER STUDIED. THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD NEED TO BE FURTHER STUDIED. IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BE PLANNED FOR, UM, BUDGETED AND CONSTRUCTED AT SOME POINT. UM, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE CONDITION, UH, THAT'S IN THE PACKET TONIGHT IS REALLY JUST TO OPEN UP THE DOOR FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN. I UNDERSTAND. THANKS. AND ONE OTHER POINT TO THAT, UM, JOHN SICKLER FOR THE RECORD. UM, IF THE TOWN INITIATED A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECT, THAT WOULD BE A TRIGGERING EVENT. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HAVE IN PLACE EASEMENTS TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE SOLUTIONS, BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, ON UPGRADING INDIAN TOWN ROAD EAST OF US 01, WE DIDN'T HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY OPTIONS TO HAVE AS MANY SOLUTIONS AS THIS MIGHT BRING FORWARD. I WOULD ALSO NOTE IN THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, AS WAS POINTED OUT, IT SHIFTS THE NEED FOR THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY AND EASEMENTS ONTO A PROPERTY THAT'S NOT AT THE TABLE. SO THAT WASN'T REALLY SEEN AS A DESIRABLE SOLUTION. HOWEVER, I WOULD NOTE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALSO WORK WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON LOOKING AT A MODIFICATION OF THE EXHIBIT THAT WE HAVE FOR ON PAGE 122. I BELIEVE IT'S ATTACHMENT D, AS IN DAVID. UM, IF THERE WAS NOT AN ENTRY OFF OF THAT, UH, RIGHT OFF EXCUSE ME OFF THE ROUNDABOUT INTO THE CENTER DIRECTLY, AND CARS DID A U-TURN ESSENTIALLY THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT, IT WOULD SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE. AND IT WOULD AVOID AS MANY SPACES BEING LOST, AND IN PARTICULAR, THE PICKUP AREA THAT THE APPLICANT PRESENTED IN THEIR PLAN. I THINK THERE ARE SOME SOLUTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT MODIFICATIONS OF THIS, AND THAT'S WHY THE CONDITION ALSO REFERENCES AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL TO BE CONSIDERED. THANK YOU. THANKS, JOHN. NEXT QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. TABLE 9 OF YOUR ANALYSIS SELECTED 4 ROADWAY ELEMENTS TO GO STUDY FURTHER FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER. WHEN I LOOKED AT TABLE 4 AND 5 ON YOUR REPORT, I SEE ADDITIONAL ROADWAYS THAT ARE NEAR THE SIMILAR CAPACITY. SO I'M WONDERING, WHAT WAS THE CRITERIA FOR SELECTING JUST THOSE 4 ROADWAY ELEMENTS SHOWN IN TABLE 9 TO ANALYZE FURTHER? SURE. THE TABLES 4 AND 5 ARE THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE FDOT OR COUNTY MAINTAINED. AND THEY SET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OR THE CAPACITIES ON THOSE ROADS. THE REMAINING ROADS IN TABLE 9 ARE THE ROADS IN THE AREA THAT ARE MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN OF JUPITER. AND THE TOWN HAS SOME DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS FOR DETERMINING CAPACITY AND SUCH. SO THE NUMBERS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THEY ARE CONSISTENT. TABLES 4 AND 5 ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FDOT AND COUNTY MANDATED THRESHOLDS. AND TABLE 09, THE TOWN OF JUPITER ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S COMP PLAN. OK. LET ME MAKE A MARK THERE. FIGURE 3 OF YOUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SHOWS 13 AND 34 PEAK HOUR VOLUMES RIGHT TURN ACROSS THE TRAFFIC ON SOUTHEAST INDIAN TOWN ROAD ACCESS POINT. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE CURRENT CONDITION? SORRY, WHICH DRIVEWAY WAS THAT ON FIGURE 3? THE SOUTHEAST ONE. THE SOUTHEAST INDIAN TOWN ROAD ACCESS POINT. SO IT WOULD BE RIGHT THE ONE AT THE REAR OF THE YEAH, THE PLAZA. HOLD ON A SECOND. SO THE INCREASE IN TRIPS BY ADDING THE BY CHANGING IT TO THE GROCERY STORE RESULTS IN I'M DOING SOME MATH ON THE FLY HERE. I'LL ACCEPT THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL LET'S SEE, SO 200. SO OVERALL, LIKE, IN THE PM, WE WOULD BE ADDING ABOUT 30 OR SO TRIPS TOTAL TO THAT DRIVEWAY. AND RIGHT NOW IN THE PM, THERE'S ABOUT 55 OR SO ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER. THERE'S SOME MORE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONDOS. SO THERE IS AN INCREASE AT THAT DRIVEWAY. OK. SO EARLIER AND DURING YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT CUTTING THE WALL BACK TO IMPROVE VISIBILITY. WAS THAT [01:05:04] THE SOLE THING YOU WERE GOING TO GO DO TO GO IMPROVE VISIBILITY AND CIRCULATION IN THAT DRIVEWAY? YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S THE DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE SORT OF ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THEN THE DRIVEWAYS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONDOS AND THEY RUN SIDE BY SIDE, AND THERE'S NOT REALLY ENOUGH ROOM TO COMBINE THEM TOGETHER INTO A SINGLE DRIVEWAY, WHAT WE DECIDED WAS THE BEST SOLUTION AGAIN WAS TO MAKE IT AS VISIBLE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T TRYING TO, TO LOOK AROUND THE WALL. OKAY. YEAH, THE VOLUMES ARE PRETTY PRETTY LOW COMING OUT OF THE CONDOS THERE. WE DID GO OUT AND COUNT THAT. YEAH, I FIGURED YOU DID. I'M READING THE REPORT. THERE IS ONE COMMENT I DO HAVE FOR YOU. WAY TOO SMALL A FONT FOR US. TELL ME TO PUT MY GLASSES ON, RIGHT? I HAD TO PUT THEM ON TOO. AND IF YOU PUT IT LANDSCAPE, IT DOESN'T IMPROVE IT MUCH BECAUSE I TRIED IT. YEP. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE REST OF THEM ARE FOR STAFF. SO WHEN I READ THE STAFF REPORT, THE FIRST SENTENCE UNDER THE TRAFFIC SECTION KIND OF CONFUSED ME BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY SAID PULL IT OUT REAL QUICK. ANYWAY, HERE WE GO. YOU SAID THERE WAS A FINDING THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT CREATE RELATIVE TO THE OVERALL CONFORMANCE OF THE PROJECT AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. OKAY, BUT THERE'S A HOWEVER IN THERE, AND THEN YOU GO INTO, YOU KNOW, IT CREATES THIS TYPE OF TRAFFIC ENVIRONMENT. I'M NOT QUITE SURE, BECAUSE THE HOWEVER IN THERE, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE. DO WE WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THERE, DO WE GO FROM ONE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE NEXT? NO. SO THIS PROJECT, WHILE IT ADDS SIGNIFICANT ADT TO THE SITE, FROM A TRAFFIC PERFORMANCE PERSPECTIVE, IT DOES NOT IMPACT A LEVEL OF SERVICE ON THAT ROADWAY. THE CRITERIA THAT'S MENTIONED, SECTION 27.175 A4 REALLY LINKS BACK TO THE SAFETY FINDING FOR THAT DRIVEWAY INTERSECTION AS A CRITERIA THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED, WHICH NECESSITATED THE CONDITION THAT'S BEFORE YOU. OK, SO IT WAS THE DRIVEWAY AGAIN THAT KIND OF WHERE YOU CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, ONE WAY TO GO IMPROVE THE SAFETY HERE IS THE ROUNDABOUT. BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, GIVEN THE PREDICTED TRAFFIC LOAD, WE HAVEN'T REACHED A TO USE THIS WORD AGAIN, TRIGGER POINT THAT SAYS WE REALLY DO NEED TO GO AND IMPLEMENT THE ROUNDABOUT OR SOME OTHER SAFETY MEASURE? YEAH, IT'S REALLY IT'S PURELY RELATED TO THE TURNING MOVEMENTS AND SAFETY. OKAY. THANK YOU, GARRETT. AND I THINK ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF THAT I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ON. REGARDING THE, UH, DEVELOPER'S PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CONDITION 5 AND 6, I TAKE IT YOU'RE NOT COMPLETELY ON BOARD WITH THOSE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS YET? UM, AS IT RELATES TO CONDITION 05, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE, UM, LIKE THE IN REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF SEATS, THAT COULD CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, SO IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT THAT RELATES IT DIRECTLY TO A SITE PLAN, ROOF SITE PLAN. SO, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED AFTER THEY PROPOSED THEIR REVISION. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULD BE TALKED ABOUT. UH, I THINK THEIR ADDITION TO THE SECOND PART IS PROBABLY SUFFICIENT, BUT THAT COULD BE A CONVERSATION AS WELL. UM, IN REGARDS TO, UM, THEIR MODIFICATION TO CONDI CONDITION 6, THE WAY I'M UNDERSTANDING IT IS THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY PROPOSING A MODIFICATION TO THE CONDITION LANGUAGE. THEY'RE JUST PROPOSING AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE DESIGN AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, WHICH HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR TOWN'S TRAFFIC. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. CAN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE BECOME A SHOWSTOPPER HERE? THE RIGHT-OF-WAY? I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS NECESSARILY THE INTENT. OKAY. AGAIN, JUST TO LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE I DO LIKE THAT IDEA. YEAH. IT MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT MOVE. IT MAY BE IN SOME CAPACITY BUT NOT ANOTHER. SO IT WOULD NEED MUCH FURTHER ANALYSIS. BUT TO LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT POSSIBLE IS THE PURPOSE. THANK YOU, GARY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CASSATTLY. YEAH, THANK YOU. I THINK THE FACELIFT LOOKS NICE. I THINK [01:10:01] THE LANDSCAPING IS AN IMPROVEMENT, AND I THINK HAVING THE COVERED LOADING AREA WITH THE WALL AND THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY. THE AREA DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE SPRUCED UP A BIT. I DO HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION. I'LL GET TO THE TRAFFIC HANG-UP THAT EVERYBODY ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE IN A SECOND. YOU TALK ABOUT THE CLOSED DOORWAY GOING INTO I THINK IT WOULD BE THE LIQUOR STORE CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE THAT IS ON THE DIAGRAM, PLEASE? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH THAT. IT'S RIGHT HERE. OKAY. THIS BUMP OUT. AND THE YELLOW SQUARE WILL BE FILLING IN. AND THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE THE TOTAL FITNESS IS OR THE YES. THE FITNESS PLACE. OKAY. THE FITNESS, YES. AND JUST TO MY POINT, ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS FOR EV CHARGERS IN THIS PARKING AREA? I'M JUST WONDERING. NO? OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I GO THERE, I PULL OVER THE BRIDGE. I'VE BEEN THERE ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IF I GO STRAIGHT AND TRY TO ENTER ON THE EAST SIDE I'M SORRY, ON THE SOUTH SIDE ON INDIAN TOWN ROAD EAST I'M GOING TO MAKE AN ILLEGAL TURN TO PULL INTO THE PLACE. OKAY, SO, UM, I WILL GO TO THE INGRESS/EGRESS THAT'S ON US 1. UM, I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE PATIENT ENOUGH TO DO THAT. I SURVEYED A BUNCH OF FRIENDS TODAY TO ASK THEM ABOUT IT, AND THEY ALL MAKE THE ILLEGAL TURN. UM, SO I TRIED TO NOT MAKE THE ILLEGAL TURN, AND I ENDED UP GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CHURCH, MAKING A U-TURN WHERE I DROPPED MY GRANDDAUGHTER, OR PICK HER UP FROM CEC THERE WHERE THEY HAVE THE CHILDREN OF RICHMOND TO COME BACK AND THERE'S A COUPLE TURNS I HAVE TO PULL OUT. IT'S NOT THE SAFEST THING IN THE WORLD. WHEN I DO GO TO INGRESS, INGRESS ACROSS FROM, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT RIGHT OFF OF, I MAKE THE LEFT AT US 01, I MAKE THE RIGHT, I PULL IN AND GO IN THERE. SO I'M GOING LEGALLY AND USING THE LIGHT, WHICH IS A LOT SAFER. THEN I MAKE THE RIGHT TO GO TO STAPLES BECAUSE I HAVE TO BUY SOME STUFF FOR BUSINESS. AND I HAVE TO WATCH EVERYBODY COMING OUT OF MCDONALD'S, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY ALL WANT TO EAT THEIR FOOD RIGHT AWAY AND THEY'RE NOT STOPPING ON THE SIGN ON THE WAY OUT. SO THAT'S A DANGEROUS SPOT AND IT FLOODS PRETTY EASILY. WHAT'S THE REMEDY? WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE REMEDY FOR PEOPLE NOT MAKING THAT ILLEGAL TURN? APPRECIATE YOU FOLLOWING THE LAW. I'M GOING TO ASK MR. KERR FROM, FROM KIMLEY HORN TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, AS YOU POINTED OUT, IT IS AN EXISTING CONDITION WHERE IT WOULD BE AN ILLEGAL TURN TO TURN FROM INDIAN TOWN AS YOU'RE HEADED EASTBOUND TO TURN IN, RECOGNIZING THAT PEOPLE DO THAT. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT THEY DO NOW, WHICH IS UTILIZING THE DRIVEWAYS ON US 1 OR GOING DOWN FURTHER ON INDIAN TOWN TO MAKE A U-TURN AND AND COME BACK. IF THE ROUNDABOUT WERE AT SOME POINT IMPLEMENTED IN THE FUTURE, THAT ACTUALLY WOULD HELP THAT SITUATION BECAUSE IT WOULD GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO MAKE A U-TURN IN THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN COME INTO THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER OFF OF INDIAN TOWN. BUT WE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE TOWN ENGINEER TO TRY AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS ALONG THERE. AND IT'S THE SITUATION IS IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO GOOD, GOOD EASY SOLUTION TO SOLVE THAT EXACT SITUATION. SO IT WOULD CONTINUE THE WAY IT IS BY MAKING A U-TURN FURTHER DOWN ON INDIAN TOWN OR USING THE US 1. DOES THE TOWN HAVE ANY PROPOSALS TO REMEDY THAT? NO, I THINK YOU SUMMARIZED OUR TALKING POINTS AT ALL THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS. OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ANTICIPATED THIS PROJECT WOULD BRING FORWARD. AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE, WE'VE MADE THAT EARLY IDENTIFICATION TO THE APPLICANT TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS. YOU KNOW, THE TOWN DIDN'T COME UP WITH A GREAT SOLUTION WHEN WE WERE DOING THE EAST INDIAN TOWN ROAD DESIGN. AND AGAIN, PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE EXTRA RIGHT-OF-WAY AND WE WEREN'T TRYING TO ACQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THAT TIME. AND IT WAS A GRANT PROJECT AND IT HAD A LOT OF STIPULATIONS AND COMPLICATIONS. BUT NONETHELESS, WE HAVE BEEN MINDFUL OF THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT THAT CONDITION NUMBER 6 FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO THE EASEMENTS, AT LEAST TO TRY TO CREATE SOME OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE SHOULD THE TOWN TAKE ON THAT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE FUTURE. UM, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THE COUNCIL TAKE OR THE COMMISSION MAKES RECOMMENDATION OR THE COUNCIL MAKES FINDING ULTIMATELY THAT THIS PROJECT NECESSITATES THAT TO BE IMPLEMENTED AT THIS TIME. IT WOULD BE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THAT TRIGGERING EVENTS, SUCH AS A [01:15:01] CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT INITIATIVE. AS IT RELATES TO THE FLOODING, MAYBE, MAYBE THE ENGINEER CAN ALSO ADDRESS THAT, BUT WE DID MAKE THAT AN ISSUE AND LOOK TO TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. SO, IF SOMEONE HAS FROM THE TEAM IS ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. YEAH, I MEAN, WE SO INTERESTING, WHEN RAM BOUGHT THE PROJECT, GUESS WHAT? BASED ON STAFF'S DETERMINATION, WENT OUT AND CLEANED THE PIPES THAT WERE OUT THERE. THEY WERE FULL OF MUD, AND THE TEAM HAS WORKED REALLY DILIGENTLY TO GO AHEAD AND CLEAN UP WHAT IS OUT THERE. SO TODAY, UNFORTUNATELY, IT JUST WASN'T WELL MAINTAINED. I KNOW THAT RAM HAS AN ONGOING MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. THEY'RE VERY FOCUSED AS A LARGE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER, NOT A ONE-SHOT WONDER. ALSO, OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS HERE, HE'S ALSO INCLUDED SOME ADDITIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ON THE SITE THAT WILL CREATE SUMPS, AND WITHIN THOSE SUMPS WILL ALSO BE FILTER SYSTEMS, AND THAT FILTER SYSTEM IS WHAT'S GOING TO CLEAN THE WATER GOING OUT TO THE MANGROVES. SO THE NEW SYSTEM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETELY NEW, BUT IT PORTIONS OF THE SYSTEM THAT ARE NEW ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE FROM A SUMP SYSTEM. AND NUMBER 02, THE PIPES WILL BE CLEANED OUT. 3, RAM IS A SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THEIR PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING WITH THE FLOODING THAT HAPPENS THERE. YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN BECAUSE YOU HAVE 2 DEDICATED LANES TO TURN LEFT COMING OFF THE BRIDGE ONTO US 1. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IMPATIENT WHEN THAT BRIDGE IS UP AND YOU'RE COMING DOWN THERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE ILLEGAL TURNS BEING MADE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THAT LEFT-HAND TURN AND THEN A SECOND LIGHT TO TURN RIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN THE RIGHT-HAND LANE, GO STRAIGHT, AND MAKE THE ILLEGAL TURN. THAT'S WHAT'S PREVALENTLY GOING TO HAPPEN. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE EVERYONE'S GOING TO GO TO WHOLE FOODS, EVERYONE'S GOING TO GO TO TOTAL WINE, AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO INCREASE THE CONGESTION AND THE ACCIDENT RATE THERE. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE WHAT STAFF SAID ABOUT WHAT ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT, AND YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN. IT TAKES A COUPLE PARTIES TO TANGO HERE, TOO. THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH HAS TO CONTRIBUTE, SO YOUR STAFF IS BEING FORWARD-THINKING. THEY'RE THINKING, HEY, THIS PROJECT'S COMING IN NOW. SOONER OR LATER, WE ALL KNOW LEASES HAVE A CERTAIN TIMELINE, THINGS COME UP AND PLANS CHANGE, THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY GET THE COMMITMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH ALSO. SO I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO IMPROVE IT. WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOTHING'S EVER PERFECT, SIR. YEAH, UM, JUST ONE MINOR QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THE FACADE CHANGE IS NOT GOING TO BE DONE AT THE THEATER. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO STILL PRETTY WELL MATCH WHAT I REMEMBER. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE. I MEAN, THAT HAS A COLUMNS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, BUT IT'S A BUT THE CONTEMPORARY, YOU WILL NOTICE A DISTANCE, YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERENTIAL. BUT ULTIMATELY, AS MR. MALONEY SAID FROM RAM, THEY'RE IN THE MIDST OF LEASE DISCUSSIONS WITH OR THEY'RE IN THE MIDST OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MOVIE THEATER. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE A REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA HERE FAIRLY SOON. IT WILL BE REPAINTED TO MATCH. WELL, WE'VE MADE THAT COMMITMENT ON THE RECORD ALREADY. OKAY, THE MOVIE THEATER. WILL BE REPAINTED TO MATCH THE REMAINDER OF THE PLAZA? NOT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, BUT GOING FORWARD WE COULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS HE'S ABLE TO WORK ON THAT WITHIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEATER. OKAY, THANK YOU. SORRY, WE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. HEY, COMMISSIONER BLUM. SO THEN IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAINT THE MOVIE THEATER TO MAKE THAT MATCH, EVERYTHING NORTH OF THERE WON'T BE EITHER? THERE'S SEVERAL SHOPS AFTER THE MOVIE THEATER. I THINK WHEN WE THE THOUGHT IS THAT WHEN WE WORK OUT THE DETAILS WITH THE THEATER AND DOING THE DOWNSIZED THERE, THAT IT MAY WORK OUT BY THE TIME YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT WHERE IT FEELS LIKE ONE SEAMLESS THING. WE'RE JUST NOT PREPARED. WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T THE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE TO MAKE IT PART OF THIS APPLICATION. BUT THAT'S OUR DESIRE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOWARDS. WE'D BE DOING MAINTENANCE THOUGH, AND PAINTING AND MAINTENANCE OF I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS SPEND ALL THE MONEY TO BEAUTIFY THAT END AT ONE TIME INSTEAD OF BECAUSE WE COULD PAINT THE WHOLE BUILDING AND DO ALL THIS STUFF AND THEN LITERALLY A COUPLE MONTHS LATER BE COMING BACK IN. THAT'D BE MY CONCERN. WE WANT TO DO IT ONCE AND DO IT RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT PAINTING IS A PROBLEM FOR THE THEATER? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE FACELIFT, THE ELEVATIONS, ALL THAT, BUT PAINTING TO MAKE THAT UNIFORM, IT'S NOT AN OPTION? WE CAN SAY WE'LL PAINT IT, AND THEN [01:20:01] BUT I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS BY THE TIME WE ACTUALLY WENT TO GO PAINT IT, WE WE WOULD HAVE COME BACK THROUGH HERE HOPEFULLY AND BE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO PAINT IT AND DO, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS, SPEND MORE CAPITAL OVER THERE. SO SO WOULD YOU MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO PAINT IT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU'VE WORKED THAT OUT YET WITH THE THEATER? OH, OKAY. YEAH. IF WE DON'T REDEVELOP THAT IN AND SOMEHOW IT'S STILL A THEATER IN 10 YEARS, WOULD WE PAINT IT, AGREE TO PAINT IT? THAT MAKE THAT COMMITMENT NOW? YES. OKAY. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE ROUNDABOUT. MY ONE CONCERN WITH THAT THOUGH IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT THE BRIDGE BACKUP, SO THEN IT'S GOING TO BE BACKING UP INTO THE ROUNDABOUTS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE. I MEAN, I LIVE IN ABACO. I'M USED TO ROUNDABOUTS, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER STERLING. YES, I'M SORRY, IN REGARDS TO THE PAINTING, SO FROM ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CINEMA, IT'S STILL GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME COLOR, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO COLOR SCHEMES? YEAH, MR. STERLING. POTENTIALLY FOR A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, SO I JUST DOUBLE-CHECKED WITH THEM. SO BASICALLY, FOR THE SHORT TERM, THE ANSWER IS YES. FOR THE LONG TERM, THOUGH, WE HOPEFULLY BE BACK SOONER THAN LATER, AND MR. MALONEY MADE A COMMITMENT ALREADY THAT THAT HE WOULD DO IT WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD IF HE WASN'T ABLE TO WORK OUT THE ARRANGEMENT WITH THE MOVIE THEATER. OKAY. ARE THE PARKING LOTS GOING TO BE RESURFACED AND SUCH TOO, KIND OF BEAUTIFIED THAT WAY TOO? YES. YES. OKAY. GREAT. CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA WHAT SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM MEAN? YEAH. AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I REALLY MY OWN OPINION IS THAT IT'LL BE REALLY SOON ON THE LIKE, THAT IF WE DO IT AS FAST AS WE HOPE TO DO IT, THE CUSTOMER, MEANING LIKE YOU DRIVING AND GOING SHOPPING, PROBABLY WOULDN'T NOTICE ANY BREAK IN THE ACTION, SO TO SPEAK. LIKE, WHOLE FOODS OPENS AND THAT END IS ALSO DONE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THINGS HAPPEN IN PHASES, RIGHT? LIKE SURE. YEAH. THAT IT WOULDN'T BE NOTICEABLE THAT IT WASN'T ONE PROJECT TO THE CUSTOMER. THAT'S THE GOAL. I JUST WE'RE JUST NOT WHERE WE ARE ON THAT PART OF IT TO BE ABLE TO JUST BRING IT ALL TODAY. HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS WHOLE THING WILL TAKE TO DO, THE WHOLE PROJECT? THE WHOLE PROJECT? OR THE PART THAT YOU'RE APPLYING FOR TODAY? HOW LONG WILL THIS PROJECT TAKE? WE EXPECT THE THAT THE GROCERY STORE WOULD OPEN IN THE FIRST, LIKE, PROBABLY LATE Q1 OF '28. SO WHATEVER THAT IS, LET 20 MONTHS, 22 MONTHS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WHEN IS YOUR SITUATION TO TALK WITH THE THEATER? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON THAT? DO I MEAN, I ASSUME THAT YOU HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT ENDS AT A CERTAIN TIME? YEAH. SO THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT ENDS IN 2030, THE EARLY 2031. BUT WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WITH THEM. I'VE GONE OUT TO AND MET WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP AND WE'RE JUST WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY I LOVE THE ARCHITECTURE. I THINK IT LOOKS SLEEK AND NICE. THANK YOU, MS. JOHNSON. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, YOU KNOW, LOOK FOR THAT AREA. AND I REALLY LOVE ALL OF THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WATER ISSUES IN THAT AREA. SO I THINK THAT IS ALL THOSE CONDITIONS ARE CRUCIAL, I THINK, TO THIS PROJECT. A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO CONDITIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST. ONE IS ADDING A CONDITION OF COVERING THOSE TABLES IN FRONT, AS COMMISSIONER KEENAN HAD MENTIONED, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE THESE I'M SORRY, YOU WERE TURNED AWAY FROM THE MIC. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. A CONDITION ABOUT COVERING THOSE TABLES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF WHAT IS IT, LA PARIS? PARIS? THE PARISIAN? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE THOSE LITTLE WHITE TENTS AND THEY, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKS UNSIGHTLY. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS NEW THEATER, I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF YOU'RE NOT PUTTING A COVERAGE ON THAT TO HAVE THESE WHITE TENTS UP THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SEATING OUT THERE AND UNDERSTANDABLY THROUGH RAIN AND THE SUN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOME SORT OF COVERAGE. I'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING BE A PART OF THE NEW PROJECT THAT LOOKS CONTIGUOUS WITH IT. I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE'LL LOOK AT THAT BETWEEN NOW AND TOWN COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK WE'RE AGAINST IT. AND I'LL LET MR. MALONEY, WHO'S OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF ALL THE TENANTS, DISCUSS MORE SPECIFICS. RIGHT. [01:25:01] YEAH, OUR PLAN IS TO MEET WITH THE PARISIAN AND, AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT INTEGRATING THEIR BUSINESS WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THAT PLAZA AREA. AND WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO IT YET. BUT WE AGREE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT THAN EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. I DID ACTUALLY SEE IT IN ONE OF YOUR DRAWINGS. YOU HAD A THERE WAS A IT'S VERY HARD. YOU HAVE TO ENLARGE IT REALLY WELL. BUT IF YOU ENLARGE IT REALLY WELL, THERE IS A REFERENCE OF PUTTING A COVER OVER THAT AREA. IT'S IN ONE OF YOUR DRAWINGS. YOU GOT GOOD EYES. WELL, IT WAS AS FAR AS MY COMPUTER WOULD ENLARGE IT. THEIR SEATING KIND OF JUTS OUT PRETTY FAR, RIGHT? SO YOU WOULDN'T IT'S IN THE ALCOVE. IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE UMBRELLAS, LIKE A CANOPY. YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH, I DON'T THINK I MEAN, HONESTLY, FOR ME PERSONALLY, AS A NICER RESTAURANT, LITTLE UMBRELLAS WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING. CHANGING, AND IF YOU EVER SAT OUTSIDE, IT'S NOT ENJOYABLE. SO I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF TOTAL COVERING FOR THAT AREA. OKAY, OKAY. THE OTHER CONDITION I WANTED TO CONSIDER IS NUMBER 7, VEGETATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESENTATION, BECAUSE YOU HAVE PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, THE FLORIDA INVASIVE SPECIES COUNCIL LISTED CATEGORY 1 EXOTIC VEGETATION SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO REAL MEANS OR AN ENTITY THAT CAN ENFORCE ANY KIND OF PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE THERE BECAUSE THEY IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT I READ, IT SAID THAT THEY MAY DO A BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES PROGRAM. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS A PERPETUAL VEGETATION MANAGEMENT AND MANAGE MONITORING PROGRAM CONSISTENT WITH STANDARD BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. BECAUSE IN THEIR DOCUMENTS, IT JUST SAYS THEY MAY, AND IT'S UP TO MANAGEMENT IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT. AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S STRONG ENOUGH LANGUAGE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS SOME SORT OF TIMELINE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERY 2 YEARS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, ULTRA FREQUENT, BUT THEY NEED TO LOOK AT IT. AND IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT AREA GOES DIRECTLY RIGHT INTO OUR MAIN WATER SUPPLY, YOUR AREAS, YOU KNOW, THE NATURAL WATERWAYS. AND SO ANYTHING THAT'S IN THAT AREA IS JUST GOING TO INFEST, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE WATERWAY. SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT IS HAS SOME SORT OF MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT HAS SOME SORT OF STANDARD TO IT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT. AND THEN ALSO TO NO. 8, LANDSCAPING. UPON THE SUBMISSION OF THE FINAL PLANS AND PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHALL BE REVISED TO INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL PLANTER ADJACENT TO THE SUPERMARKET OUTDOOR SEATING AREA. IN THE STAFF'S DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW, IT NOTES THAT THERE IS DEAD AND DYING PLANT MATERIAL. AND, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE REPLACED OR AND IF NOT DURING THIS PROCESS, THAT IT THEN WOULD HAVE TO GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND I THINK THAT'S NOT A GOOD WAY TO DO IT, IS TRY TO LEAVE IT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH A PUNITIVE AND KIND OF A NEGATIVE WAY TO APPROACH THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT ALL DEAD AND DYING PLANT MATERIAL BE RESTORED PRIOR TO THE CO BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE FINAL THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON THE PROJECT. DEFINITELY GET DONE, AND I WOULD THINK DOING ALL THIS BEAUTIFUL WORK ON THE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WOULD WANT IT TO LOOK GOOD. SO I THINK THAT'S AN EASY ONE. UM, THIS COUNCIL CAN INTERJECT ON ONE THING, CHAIR. SO THERE IS A RESTORATION PLAN, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR ENFORCEMENT FOR THE MITIGATION FOR THE MANGROVES AREA. UNDERSTOOD. OK, PERFECT. THAT IS ON RECORD. I THINK TO ME THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS WHAT I THINK EVERYONE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS INDIAN TOWN ROADWAY. MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE I'VE PROBABLY ALMOST BEEN HIT THERE MORE THAN ANY TIME, YOU KNOW, OR REAR-ENDED, YOU KNOW. SO BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, SOMEONE WILL STOP IN FRONT OF ME TO TURN IN LEFT, AND THEN I STOP BEHIND THEM, AND THEN THE PERSON BEHIND ME IS NOT LOOKING. AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD THAT SCREECH, OR COMING OUT FROM, UM, UM, SPECIALIZED I THINK IT'S ENTRANCE NUMBER 2, THEY HAVE IT LABELED YOU KNOW, WANTING TO GET OUT, MAYBE EVEN TRY TO GET TO THOSE LEFT-HAND TURN LANES. [01:30:01] YOU KNOW, TO GO SOUTH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT FIRST LANE GUY GOING, OH SURE, COME ON ACROSS. AND THEN OF COURSE THE PERSON IN LANE 2 AND 3 ARE STILL GOING, YOU KNOW, AND JUST SMASH. SO I THINK AN IMPORTANT THING FOR TOWN COUNCIL WOULD BE TO SEE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHAT KIND OF ACCIDENT REPORTS WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS RIGHT IN THAT STRETCH OF ROAD. BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, OR SOMEONE GOING DOWN, TURNING AROUND, COMING BACK, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ALL THAT KIND OF THING. IT JUST CAUSES SO MUCH CHAOS IN THAT AREA. AND DRIVING THROUGH THERE, I CAN SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. BUT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF WAY TO GET A LEFT TURN LANE THERE INTO THAT NUMBER 2 ENTRANCE. AND I, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE ELSE I'VE SEEN THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY HAS A LIGHT THAT'S IN TANDEM WITH THE MAIN TRAFFIC LIGHT ON INDIANTOWN ROAD THERE. AND WAS IT ALTERNATE A1A? NO, US 01, US 1, EXCUSE ME. SO INDIAN TOWN ROAD AND US 1. SO THAT WAY IT STOPS TRAFFIC. LIKE, SO IF THAT LIGHT GOING WESTBOUND ON INDIAN TOWN ROAD TURNS RED, THAT LIGHT AT ENTRANCE 2 WOULD TURN RED AS WELL. SO THAT WAY EVERYONE COULD THEN MAKE THAT TURN BECAUSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S PEOPLE WAITING TO TURN LEFT, THEY BUMPER TO BUMPER. AND SO YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT. SO IF YOU HAD A WAY TO STOP THEM BEFORE THAT LEFT TURN LANE SO THEY COULD GO INTO THE SHOPPING PLAZA. I THAT WAY IT DOESN'T HINDER TRAFFIC FLOW, BUT IT JUST KEEPS THAT OPENING SO THAT WAY PEOPLE SITTING THERE WANTING TO TURN LEFT INTO THE SHOPPING MALL CAN. SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. I'VE SEEN THAT IN A COUPLE OF OTHER PLACES AND IT SEEMS TO WORK REALLY WELL WITHOUT DECREASING THE SPEED OF TRAFFIC FLOW. SO I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT JUST OBSERVATION. I'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR POINT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I FULLY AGREE WITH, AND THAT'S WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WE HAVE NOW. YEAH. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WAITING TO GET IN THESE NEW SHOPS? I KNOW I AM. YEAH. YOU KNOW? AND SO THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH MORE DANGEROUS. YEAH, EXACTLY. I MEAN, AND YOU WANT THIS AREA TO BE ROBUST. SO WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAY, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, YOUR ONLY OPTION REALLY IS IF BECAUSE MOST OF THE TOWN IS WEST OF THIS INTERSECTION, SO EVERYONE'S COMING EAST. AND TO GET INTO THAT SHOPPING MALL, IF YOU HAVE TO GO IN THROUGH THAT NUMBER ONE ENTRANCE ON, UM, US 1, IT'S BACKED UP SO MUCH OF THE TIME, ESPECIALLY AT ANY KIND OF, OF, YOU KNOW, PEAK HOURS. AND SO EVERYONE GOES THAT OTHER WAY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO I TO ME, THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN THIS PROJECT, IS FINDING SOME WAY TO MAKE THAT STRETCH NAVIGABLE AND SAFE. AND THAT'S MY COMMENTS. OKAY. SO ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. SOMEBODY'S RAISING THEIR HAND. OH, WE DO. COME ON UP. OKAY, YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES IN WHICH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SURE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS EDWARD CRONIN. I AM A RESIDENT OF OCEAN PARKS CONDOMINIUMS, WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S 300 NORTH A1A. UM, THE OCEAN PARKS HAS, UH, 13 CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS, AND 4 OF THEM RUN EITHER PARALLEL OR PERPENDICULAR TO, UM, THE WALL THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT BACKS UP TO WHERE, WHERE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE. THE CONCERN THAT MANY OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE, AND PARTICULARLY IN THOSE 4 BUILDINGS, IS, UH, HOW IS THE FOOD WASTE GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF WITH RODENTS AND INSECTS AND THAT KIND OF THING. THAT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT COMMUNITY HAS RIGHT NOW. IN ADDITION TO, I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE, BUT THAT WHOLE RIGHT-OF-WAY THING AND THEN TRAFFIC COMING OUT, GETTING ONTO INDIAN TOWN. THAT'S, THOSE ISSUES ARE WELL PAST MY PAY GRADE, BUT. I DID WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT, IF WE COULD, ABOUT THE FOOD WASTE COMING OUT OF WHOLE FOODS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. IF I MAY ASK ONE QUESTION, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE OUT OF OUR AREA, I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT AS FAR AS CHANGES YOU WANTED TO MAKE TO CONDITION 5 AND 6. I'M REALLY NOT QUITE STRAIGHT ON WHAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE. SURE. MA'AM, CAN I ADDRESS THE GENTLEMAN FIRST, AND THEN OR DO YOU WANT TO GO RIGHT TO THEY COULD YEAH, NO, GO AHEAD. JUST REAL QUICK. SO I JUST WANT [01:35:01] TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. THE DUMPSTER FOR WHOLE FOODS ISN'T A DUMPSTER. IT'S A TRASH A SEALED TRASH COMPACTOR, AND IT'S THE FURTHEST SOUTH ON THE SITE. SO WHOLE FOODS IS THE FURTHEST SOUTH, AND IT HAS A TRASH COMPACTOR., AND IT IS A SEALED TRASH COMPACTOR, WHICH MEANS IT DOESN'T LEAK FLUID EVERYWHERE. IN REGARDS TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT CONDITIONS 5 AND CONDITION 6, SOUNDS LIKE STAFF THAT WE ARE GENERALLY IN A I DON'T USE THE WORD IN ALIGNMENT, BUT WE CAN WORK THROUGH CONDITION 5. MY CONCERN WITH CONDITION 5 WAS IF KEN WANTED TO BUILD AN ICE CREAM SHOP AND THEN JENNA WANTED TO PUT AN ICE CREAM SHOP IN AND JENNA WANTED TO CHANGE THE BATHROOM AND IT REQUIRED A BUILDING PERMIT, I JUST DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GET STUCK. BUT IN REGARDS BUT IF WE AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THAT CONDITION. THAT, THAT WAS OUR CONCERN ABOUT THE CONDITION. THAT WAS A REASON FOR MY CHANGE. I BELIEVE STAFF IS GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONCEPT. WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE EXACT LANGUAGE. WE JUST DON'T WANT A TENANT WHO'S OUT THERE TODAY TO BE STUCK FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REALLY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. WHEREAS IF WHOLE FOODS IS COMING AND BELL'S IS LEAVING, THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION, AND IT DOES CHANGE THE PARKING. IN THE SECOND CONDITION NUMBER 06, WHICH IS WE ARE NOT AGAINST GENERALLY CONDITION NUMBER 6 AS WRITTEN, AS MR. SICKLER INDICATED. WE JUST HAVE PROVIDED A PROPOSED, PROPOSED REVISION TO THE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THAT ROUNDABOUT THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE TOWN AND THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND THE TOWN'S ENGINEER AND OUR ENGINEER. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ALL WEEKEND, AND THIS WAS A CONCEPT THAT WE COULD LIVE WITH, AND THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR US. THE OTHER CONCEPT WHICH SHOWED THAT INGRESS POINT AND THE TAKING OF ABOUT 30 PARKING SPOTS JUST DIDN'T WORK FOR US. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, WITH STAFF ON THAT. OK, BUT IT DOES STATE IN THERE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A ROUNDABOUT OR ALTERNATIVE ACCESS IMPROVEMENT, CORRECT? AND WE'RE MORE TOWARDS THE ALTERNATIVE. OK, NO, THAT'S FINE, BUT SO THE LANGUAGE STILL ENCOMPASSES BOTH, GIVES YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK THAT OUT. OK, YES, AND WE ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH THE NUMBER 5 AMENDMENTS THAT IF IT DOES, IF THE IF THE BUILDOUT DOESN'T CREATE A TRAFFIC OR EXCUSE ME, A PARKING DEFICIT, THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD. WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD SOMEBODY BACK IF THEY'RE NOT CREATING A HIGHER PARKING NEED. OKAY, SO YOU'RE AGREED WITH CONDITION 5 CHANGES? YES, I MEAN, WE MIGHT WORDSMITH IT A BIT, BUT IF WE CAN GET A IF THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WE WILL WORK. ON REFINING THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY REQUESTED IF NECESSARY. OKAY, AND THEN CONDITION 6 WILL STAY AS IS, AND BECAUSE IT ALREADY HAS THE FLEXIBILITY FOR YOU TO WORK IT OUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO ARE THERE LET'S SEE, SO WE'RE COME UP TO COMMENTS AND DELIBERATION AMONGST THE COMMISSION. SO COMMISSIONER KEENAN. JUST A QUICK OVERALL THOUGHT. WE'VE HEARD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT IDEAS WITH RESPECT TO CONDITIONS. I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC, IT HAS BECOME VERY OBVIOUS THE COMPLICATED PROBLEM THAT THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS, I THINK WE HAVE TO DEFER TO STAFF AND STAFF'S CONDITIONS AND STAFF'S DISCRETION ON A LOT OF THIS. OTHERWISE, WE COULD WE COULD COME UP WITH ABOUT 50 CONDITIONS THAT WE COULD ADD ON TO THIS. SO JUST IN TERMS OF OUR DELIBERATIONS HERE TONIGHT, I THINK I GATHER THERE'S A CONSENSUS THAT THIS IS AN EXCELLENT APPLICATION AND THAT WE'RE GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF IT. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS WHICH STAFF HAS ALREADY OUTLINED AND SUCH OTHER CONDITIONS AS THEY MAY DEEM NECESSARY. JUST AN OVERALL THOUGHT ON OUR APPROACH. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER ROGEL. I THINK THAT WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THE TRAFFIC IS A PROBLEM AND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED SOONER THAN LATER. AND THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COMMISSION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY START THINKING ABOUT, OR PRETTY QUICKLY AS THIS PROJECT GETS UNDERWAY, THAT THEY INCLUDE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S TIME TO INCREASE THE CAPITAL BUDGET TO BUILD WHETHER IT'S A ROUNDABOUT OR SOMETHING ELSE. BUT AS WE'VE ALL SEEN, THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI. I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER KEENAN'S REMARKS. I THINK WE'RE ALL IN, YOU KNOW, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO IMPROVE THE AREA RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF IDIOT [01:40:01] DOWN ROAD. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE IS REALLY CONCERNED WITH ACCESS, AS TO ECHO EVERYBODY'S POINT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S I FIND IT INTERESTING THOUGH THAT BASICALLY THERE'S THE FINDING THAT SAID, HEY, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE SAFE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECONCILE THAT. AND THAT'S THE I THINK THE QUANDARY WE'RE FACING WITH IS THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE STAFF'S CHALLENGE IS TO FIND A WAY TO GO RECONCILE THAT FOR US. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CASSATTLY. YEAH, I MEAN, I ECHO THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND NOT AS MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TO THE SHOPPING CENTER AS YOU WOULD LIKE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY. THE TENANTS AREN'T GOING TO BE AS PROFITABLE. AND NO ONE'S GOING TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE I COULD SEE EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU CAN EGRESS HEADING EAST ON INDIANTOWN ROAD. YOU CAN HAVE EGRESS INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER, AND YOU ALSO HAVE EGRESS IN THIS BEAUTIFUL SHOPPING CENTER THAT YOU'RE GIVING A MAJOR FACELIFT TO FROM PUBLIX CROSSING THE STREET. THERE NEEDS TO BE A REMEDY TO, TO APPROVE THIS AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. COMMISSIONER BLUM? I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD. COMMISSIONER STERLING? I DO THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A NICE IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROPERTY. I REMEMBER BACK WHEN IT WAS AN INTERIOR MALL, WHICH THAT WAS NOT A SMART DECISION BACK IN THOSE DAYS. BUT ANYWAY, BUT YEAH, IT'S KIND OF DEFINITELY NEEDS THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROPERTY. AND I THINK THE PROPOSAL IS DEFINITELY GOING TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY. AND A LITTLE CONCERN IS I THINK THE NEW TENANTS THAT ARE COMING IN ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY ADD TRAFFIC TO THE AREA. BUT AS I SAY, THAT'S UP TO THE, THE TOWN TO KIND OF COME UP WITH A REMEDY ON THAT. SO YEAH, I THINK IT IS DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT. GREAT. AND MY ONLY COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE EXISTING SITE PLAN THAT ARE POSITIVE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MY AMENDMENTS FOR NUMBER 7 AND CONDITION 7 AND 8, AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER. SO THAT BEING SAID, CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE SHOPS OF JUPITER SITE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION? I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT. WITH THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN EXHIBIT 1 AND WITH THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE COMMISSION THAT ALL TRAFFIC ISSUES BE GIVEN PRIMARY ATTENTION BY STAFF AND COUNCIL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD THE CONDITIONS ON 7 AND 8 THAT I ADDED OR NO? WE CAN ADD THOSE, YES. OKAY, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I'M JUST ASKING. NO, I YES, OKAY, AND CONDITIONS 7 AND 8. OKAY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY, MR. STERLING. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. YEP. OKAY, THANK [STAFF UPDATE ] YOU. OKAY, SO STAFF UPDATE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, UH, THE MAY 19TH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, THE ITEM FOR PLANET KIDS ANNEXATION, LAND USE AND REZONING, UH, WERE ALL POSTPONED TO THE JULY 7TH MEETING. I WILL NOTE IT. NOT TOO LIKELY THEY'LL BE HEARD AT THAT MEETING, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR AT THIS POINT. ALSO WANTED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING AT SCHEDULING THE BUDGET HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER, AND THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THEY CAN'T OCCUR ON THE SAME NIGHT AS, I BELIEVE, FOR THE COUNTY OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO THEY ARE PROPOSING, UH, THE HEARING DATE TO CONFLICT WITH YOUR, YOUR REGULAR MEETING DATE IN SEPTEMBER. TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT RESCHEDULING. WE DID SEND AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY, AND WE JUST LOOK FOR YOUR REPLIES AS IT RELATES TO YOUR AVAILABILITY. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE WILL POLL YOU AGAIN, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THOSE, THOSE DATES FOR THE COUNCIL ARE TO BE AFFIRMED ON JULY 7TH, SO THEY HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY SET THOSE DATES, BUT WE'RE JUST PREPARING FOR THAT. LIKELIHOOD. OKAY, UM, ONE OTHER THING I DID WANT TO ASK, AND I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT YOUR AGENDAS AND THE [01:45:01] PRODUCTION OF THE AGENDAS IS QUITE A PRODUCTION, UM, LITERALLY, UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF VOLUME AS IT RELATES TO THE TRAFFIC REPORTS, AND I KNOW AS IS NOTED TONIGHT, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO READ, AND SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE REPRODUCTION, UM, WE HAVE CONTEMPLATED JUST KEEPING LIKE EITHER THE CONCLUSIONS OR A HIGH-LEVEL PORTION OF THAT IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM AND RELYING ON THE ELECTRONIC COPY FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DIG DEEPER INTO ALL THE TABLES AND FIGURES, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE MUCH EASIER TO READ WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM ON A COMPUTER BECAUSE YOU CAN ZOOM IN AND SUCH. I JUST WANT TO GET INITIAL FEEDBACK ON THAT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING YOUR AGENDA PACKET A LITTLE BIT SMALLER AND FOR PRODUCTION PURPOSES AND REDUCE PAPER I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THE COMMISSION FEELS ABOUT THAT. ANY SO YOU'RE SAYING THE DETAIL BE ACCESSIBLE ONLINE? ONLINE. CAN WE, YOU KNOW, VANESSA, SEND YOU THE LINK THAT HAS THE ELECTRONIC THAT'S FINE. AND SOME OF YOU ALREADY DO, SEVERAL OF YOU ALREADY DO THE ELECTRONIC AGENDAS. YES. SO I WAS JUST KIND OF ASKING IF THE REST OF YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE USING THAT RESOURCE OF THE ONLINE VERSION FOR THOSE LENGTHY TRAFFIC REPORTS. SO, SO, JOHN, I WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE COMMENT. I'LL FULLY OWN UP TO IT. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEERING REPORTS, THE FORMAT OF THEM. SO WE GOT TO LIVE WHAT WE LIVE, AND THAT'S WHAT, IN MY MIND, THE ELECTRONIC VERSION IS FOR. I WAS JUST COMMUNICATING TO THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG ENGINEER, IF I WROTE A REPORT AND MY MANAGEMENT COULDN'T READ THE TABLE IN IT, I GOT RESOUNDINGLY THUMPED. SO I WAS TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIPLOMATIC THAN THAT. YEAH, I HAD A CHALLENGE READING A COUPLE OF THOSE PAGES BECAUSE THE FONTS JUST IN A COUPLE OF THE TABLES WERE REALLY SMALL. BUT WE, BEFORE THAT ISSUE CAME UP, WE WERE ALREADY, I WAS ALREADY WANTING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE PRODUCTION PART OF GETTING YOUR AGENDA OUT, AND I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY REALLY DIGS IN. THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL AND DATA IN THOSE TRAFFIC REPORTS THAT KIND OF GOES BEYOND THE LAYPERSON'S EVALUATION. SO IS EVERYONE I WOULD AGREE. IF I CAN'T READ IT, I DON'T NEED IT PRINTED FOR ME. OKAY. I'M FINE WITH IT. I JUST USE IT AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND REEVALUATE IT IF YOU REALIZE. I MEAN, IF IT'S AN ISSUE THAT TRAFFIC IS A SUBSTANTIAL ISSUE, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE IT ANYWAY. BUT ON SOME OF THESE WHERE IT'S NOT LIKE IN THE FOREFRONT OF ISSUES YEAH. I MEAN, THIS ONE WAS PRETTY MEATY RELATED TO TRAFFIC, SO WE MIGHT HAVE INCLUDED THIS ONE, BUT YEAH. NO, I'M FINE IF JUST THE TRAFFIC REPORT, AS LONG AS THERE'S A LINK SENT SO IT'S EASY TO GET TO IT AND FIND IT. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY, WELL, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GOOD EVENING, 8:48 * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.