[Call To Order] [00:00:04] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT'S A LITTLE AFTER 7. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MAY 12, 2026 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. STAFF, PLEASE CALL ROLL SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM. HERE. HERE. VICE CHAIR BETH KELSO. HERE. COMMISSIONER MICHAEL CASATLY. HERE. COMMISSIONER ROBERT GRABOWSKI. HERE. COMMISSIONER MARTY ROGEL. COMMISSIONER PAUL KEENAN. COMMISSIONER DAVID THOMPSON. HERE. COMMISSIONER CYNTHIA BLUM. HERE. COMMISSIONER EDWARD STERLING. HERE. THANK YOU. THANKS. NOW THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SUBMIT A GREEN COMMENT CARD TO THE SECRETARY. NEXT ARE CITIZEN COMMENTS UNRELATED TO AGENDA ITEMS. BOARD WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING. ANY ISSUES WILL BE NOTED BY STAFF OR FOLLOW-UP AS APPROPRIATE. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO EXPRESS THEIR COMMENTS. STAFF, ARE THERE ANY COMMENT CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC, OR ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO, NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. [MINUTES] NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS A REVIEW OF THE APRIL 14, 2026 MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. COMMISSIONER BLUM AND COMMISSIONER SATTLEY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED. [ORDER OF BUSINESS] NEXT IS THE REGULAR AGENDA. STAFF, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO CHANGES. [2. Ordinance 11-26, Approval to Amend Chapter 10 of the Town Code, Fire Prevention and Protection, to adopt the Florida Fire Prevention Code and Uniform Fire Safety Standards. (PZ 26-6937)] THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ORDINANCE 11-26, FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT APPLICATION. I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE STAFF TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, MY NAME IS ANDREW ARMINAS. I AM THE FIRE MARSHAL, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION OFFICER AND THE CHAPLAIN FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER. AND I'M HONORED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TRYING TO GET THIS ORDINANCE SINCE WE ARE DOING A TRANSITION OCTOBER 1ST FROM SERVICES TO PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE TO JUPITER FIRE RESCUE. AS THE FIRE MARSHAL, WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THAT WE CHANGE THE FIRE ORDINANCE FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY TO JUPITER. AND THE BEST THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE, RIGHT, IS THE SAFEST BOOK THAT FLORIDA HAS EVER ESTABLISHED FOR FIRE SAFETY, LIFE SAFETY, AND FIREFIGHTER SAFETY. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ADOPT THAT AND NOT ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY HAS. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ADOPT THE SAFEST BOOK OUT THERE AND ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO GO THROUGH SO I CAN GO THROUGH COUNTS. THANK YOU. DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? OKAY, LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN AND WORK OUR WAY ACROSS. THE QUESTION IS THE SAME IF THEY SAID... YES, THEY DO HAVE THE SAME STATUTE. ARE THERE... ARE THERE ANY VARIATIONS THAT THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING? YES, THEY HAVE 60 PAGES OF AMENDMENTS ON TOP OF THAT. HAVE THOSE BEEN REVIEWED TO DETERMINE IF JUPITER WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ANY OF THOSE? WE HAVE REVIEWED THEM, BUT THERE ARE JUST SO MANY. AND AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT THE SAFEST BOOK OUT THERE IS THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE, WHICH I'VE USED THROUGHOUT MY CAREER, INSTEAD OF THE ADDITIONAL 60. SO, YEAH, THE SAFEST BOOK OUT THERE IS JUST THE PLAIN FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE. RIGHT, BUT THE WORDING, AS I SAW, I GUESS, IN THE PROPOSED MOTION, IS THAT THIS IS THE ACCEPTABLE MINIMUM STANDARD. AND MY QUESTION TO YOU REALLY IS, ARE THERE ADDITIONS TO THAT MINIMUM IN THOSE 60 PAGES THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING? SURE, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A MINIMUM. YOU KNOW, IT'S THE STANDARD. SO MINIMUM, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT MINIMUM. IT IS THE STANDARD THAT EVERYBODY USES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. NOW, IF A CITY WANTS TO ADD TO IT, THEY COULD. BUT REVIEWING IT, I BELIEVE THE STANDARD SHOULD BE STATUS QUO, MAKE IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO GET PERMITS AND EASIER FOR THE TRANSITION TO HAPPEN AND COST-EFFECTIVENESS. STILL HAVING SAFETY AS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. COMMISSIONER ROGEL? NO QUESTION. COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI? [00:05:02] YEAH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE HERE REAL QUICK. IF I READ THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT FOR THIS CORRECTLY, YOU ARE CALLING TO ADOPT THE 2004 EDITION OF THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE, NOT THE LATEST EDITION, THE 2024 EDITION OR THE 8TH EDITION. NO, IT SHOULD BE THE LATEST AND GREATEST, WHICH IS THE 2024 8TH EDITION. MY COPY HAD 2004. DOES IT? YEAH. I MEAN, YEAH, 2004. 2004. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF... YEAH, YEAH, NO, THAT IS INCORRECT. IT SHOULD BE THE LATEST AND GREATEST 2024 8TH EDITION. OKAY. GOOD CATCH. I COULD FIX THAT. THAT COULD GET FIXED. GOOD CATCH. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS, I'M READING SECTION 1019, RIGHT, THAT WE SPECIFICALLY LIST THIS THE YEAR OF THE EDITION, WHEREAS WHEN I GO TO THE STATE FIRE CODE... RIGHT? IT BASICALLY SAYS THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL SHALL ADOPT THE CURRENT EDITION OF THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARD 1, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. YEAH. COULD WE NOT ADOPT SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE HERE EVERY THREE YEARS? SURE. YEAH, I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. THEY COULD HAVE THAT SAME LANGUAGE. WE JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, FIX THAT LANGUAGE. SURE. BECAUSE I'M SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THEY'RE GOING TO PUBLISH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE UPDATES EVERY THREE YEARS. THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL WILL GET IT. AND YOU'LL SEND SOMETHING OUT TO EVERYBODY TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE NOW OPERATING OUT UNDER THE 9TH EDITION, FOR EXAMPLE. CORRECT, YES. YES, THAT COULD BE ADOPTED EASILY, YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, THE LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS, WE HAVE THE ONE ORDINANCE WE'RE ADDING OF OUR OWN IS AN OPEN BURNING ORDINANCE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. OKAY. I COULDN'T FIND A DEFINITION OF OPEN BURNING ANYWHERE. I FOUND A DEFINITION OF ALL SORTS OF OTHER TYPES OF BURNING, EVEN IN THE STATE CODE, BUT I COULDN'T FIND A DEFINITION OF WHAT... WHAT'S CONSIDERED OPEN BURNING? OKAY. DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER ADDING THAT? I MEAN, THE WAY I KIND OF LOOK AT IT, RIGHT, FOR A LOCAL RESIDENT, IS A CAMPFIRE RING CONSIDERED OPEN BURNING? YES, IT IS CONSIDERED AN OPEN BURN. BUT AGAIN, WE JUST GO WITH WHAT THE CODE SAYS. YEAH, I COULDN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE IN THE STATE LANGUAGE. NOW... FREELY ADMIT I DIDN'T GO INTO THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE TO SEE IF THAT DEFINITION'S IN THERE. IT IS. IT IS IN THERE. OKAY. AND I CAN CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANKS, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. COMMISSIONER CASALE? NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER KELSO? JUST A COUPLE QUICK ONES. HOW DOES THE JFRD FEE SCHEDULE COMPARE TO THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FEE SCHEDULE? IS IT LESS, EQUAL, OR GREATER THAN? WELL, THAT'S... THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THAT FEE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW IS BEING CONSIDERED, IS BEING TAKEN TO A PROFESSIONAL TO LOOK AT IT. I WANT IT TO BE LESS. I'M NOT HERE TO MAKE ANY MONEY. WHAT I WANT IS THE PERSON TO COME TO JUPITER AND ENJOY HAVING A BUSINESS HERE. I'M NOT HERE TO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SAFETY IS IN CHECK AND ALL THE PERMITS ARE IN CHECK. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOW GET A FEE SCHEDULE, RIGHT, AND WE'RE GETTING A CONSULTANT. TO GET THE FEE SCHEDULE TAKEN CARE OF, TO MAKE COMPARISONS OF WHAT'S THE BEST OPTIONS SO SOMEBODY COULD COME HERE AND BE HAPPY TO HAVE A BUSINESS IN JUPITER. SO THAT CONSULTANT IS WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. BEFORE WE SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DIALED IN BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE. BUT YOUR GOAL IS TO HAVE IT LESS THAN WHAT THE COUNTY IS CHARGING? OKAY. IN SECTION 10.3, IT SAYS THAT ALL PRIOR AGREEMENTS ARE REPEALED AS OF OCTOBER 1, 2026. BUT I THOUGHT THE MUTUAL AID AND HAZMAT ASSISTANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE COUNTY AND OTHER AGENCIES AROUND US. SO WOULD THOSE AGREEMENTS BE GOING THROUGH? AND IF SO, IN THIS LANGUAGE? YEAH, THAT'S TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE ENTITIES, THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL STUFF AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AND VERY DIFFERENT COMPARED TO THE FIRE CODE AND THE FIRE PREVENTION ASPECT OF IT. SO WHEN THE FIRE MARSHAL, OCTOBER 1ST, AND WE WORK DILIGENTLY WITH THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, WE'RE GOING TO START TRAINING TOGETHER IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS GREAT THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL AND I ARE IN GREAT TERMS AND COLLABORATING TOGETHER TO GET THIS TOWN AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE. AND THEY'RE HANDING OUT AND GIVING US ALL THE SUPPORT, AND WE ARE DOING AS WELL TO DO THAT. SO... THE HAZMAT MATERIAL STUFF, THAT'S MORE THE OPERATIONAL SIDE, AND THE FIRE PREVENTION SIDE, TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE. OKAY, SO ONLY THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE FIRE CODE WILL BE? YES. OKAY. [00:10:01] JUST THE FIRE CODE ITSELF. OKAY. AND KIND OF TO MR. KEENAN'S QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, UNLAWFUL BURNS OF WOOD AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO A HOME ENVIRONMENT OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN A LARGER ESTATE, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT HAVE A FIVE FOOT FIRE PIT THAT COULD HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A FLAMING WALL UP 30 FEET TALL? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO HOW HOW DOES A CITIZEN KNOW? BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF SUCH AN OBLIQUE LANGUAGE THAT HOW DOES A CITIZEN KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO? THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND ON THE CODE, IT DOES SAY THAT YOU NEED AN OPEN BURN PERMIT. SO THAT PERSON HAS TO SUBMIT A PERMIT TO OPEN BURN LIKE THAT. AND TO SEE IN THE CODE, WHICH IS THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE, IT'S IN THERE. I COULD FIX THE LANGUAGE. NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE JUST A HOME. NO, THEY REALLY JUST CAN'T DO THAT. THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR PERMISSION. AND WHEN WE GO, YOU CAN SHOW UP AND SAY, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BURN? I'M LIKE, OH, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, ESPECIALLY WITH AMBERS AND HOW DRY IT IS. EVEN THE THE FORESTRY DEPARTMENT SAYS YOU CAN'T BURN RIGHT NOW. SO YOU'RE SAYING THIS EVEN COVERS SOMEONE'S LITTLE FIRE PIT OUT BACK OF THEIR HOUSE? YES. WOW. YEAH, SO IT'S ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA IN THE DRY SEASON. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BURN BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THE GRASS CATCHES AND NOW WE HAVE A BAD FOREST FIRE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF BRUSH. YEAH. SO AGAIN, IT IS A LITTLE VAGUE IN THAT. IT COULD BE ADJUSTED AND GO WITH THE NFPA CODE, SORRY, THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE STATE. OKAY, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CHALLENGE IN ENFORCING THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEONE WHO'S JUST GOING TO HAVE SOME WOOD ON THE FIRE AND DO SOME S'MORES IS GOING TO GO FOR BURNING. AND THAT'S OKAY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S, BUT IF SOMEBODY CALLS AND COMPLAINS, THEN THERE'S THE PROBLEM. YOU GET IT? SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE STRICT ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE, YEAH, I'VE DONE THAT WITH MY CHILDREN, AND WE HAVE HAD A LITTLE FIRE PIT AND YOU DO S'MORES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT BURN GARBAGE. YEAH. AND PEOPLE THAT BURN SOMETHING THAT'S AN AMOUNT OF SIZE AND THEN THEY'LL CALL 9-1-1 AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE FIRE CREW WILL SHOW UP AND THE FIRE CREWS ARE PRETTY TRAINED ON WHAT TO SAY AND THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY CAN'T DO THAT AND YOU NEED A PERMIT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BURN SOMETHING THAT LARGE. SO THE CREWS ALREADY KNOW WHAT TO SAY WHEN WE GET THOSE CALLS. I'VE BEEN ON THOSE CALLS MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE CALLED AND SAID, HEY, SOMEBODY'S BURNING SOMETHING IN THE BACK AND SURE ENOUGH THERE'S PALLETS AND WE'RE LIKE, HEY, YOU CANNOT DO THAT. THERE'S NO WAY. YOU NEED A BURN PERMIT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE A PERMIT FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY IN A RESIDENTIAL PLACE. YEAH. WELL, I SAW WHEN IT SAID YOU HAD TO SAY HOW MANY HOMES ARE WITHIN A MILE OF YOUR HOUSE. I WAS LIKE, GOOD LORD. YEAH, THAT'S THE ISSUE. YEAH. BUT WE'LL BURN WITHOUT ASKING FOR PERMISSION. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST ABOUT THE WHOLE NEW PERMITTING ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT GOING TO CHANGE NOW WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER? WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH WITH THE COUNTY PROCESS AND COMING IN. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO INTEGRATE WITHIN THE WHOLE PROCESS OF WHEN A NEW DEVELOPMENT IS, OR A COMMERCIAL BUILDING OR A RESIDENTIAL HOME IS BEING PROPOSED, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FIT IN AND HOW IS A CONTRACTOR OR HOMEOWNER GOING TO BE EDUCATED ON WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH YOU GUYS? OH, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE IMPLEMENTING PHASES, PHASES ON COMMUNICATION. PHASES ON, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE FIRE CODE. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE, BECAUSE THEY DO EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, IT'S CALLED INTERGOV. AND INTERGOV IS WHERE EVERYBODY GETS THEIR PERMITS. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. WE'RE GOING TO STAY WITH THAT. SO IT'S SEAMLESS. I WANT IT TO BE SO SEAMLESS THAT YOU DON'T EVEN SEE IT. THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE IS THE PATCH, YOU KNOW? SO IT'S GOING TO BE INTERGOV, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO START POSTING FROM MAY NOW, RIGHT NOW MAY, ALL THE WAY TO OCTOBER. STATE CHANGE IS COMING. HEY, COME AND CALL ME, PLEASE. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT JUPITER HAS A FIRE MARSHAL THAT THEY COULD COME AND SAY, HEY, CAN I COME TO YOUR OFFICE? SURE. LET ME TALK. LET'S TALK. LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT. I WANT TO HAVE COFFEE WITH CONTRACTORS. I WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, COME AND HAVE A BUSINESS HERE AT JUPITER. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME. THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE. THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO USE THE SAFEST BOOK OUT THERE, WHICH IS THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE. AND GREAT QUESTION. AND IT'S GOING TO BE SEAMLESS. WE'RE GOING TO STILL USE INTERGOV. BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET COFFEE WITH CONTRACTS, SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO DO. LIKE THEY DO COFFEE WITH COPS. LET'S DO COFFEE WITH CONTRACTS. COME AND TALK TO ME. LET'S OPEN THIS BIG BOOK. SO BEFORE YOU DO SOMETHING, IT'S IN THE CODE. I BELIEVE IT. I BELIEVE THAT THIS BOOK IS THE BEST BOOK OUT THERE. AND I HAVE PASSION FOR IT. I LOVE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I WANT IT TO BE SEAMLESS. AND JUST THE LAST THING, I REMEMBER, AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT AS WE WERE TALKING [00:15:01] HERE, BUT SOMEWHERE IN THE PACKAGE IT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WILL FOLLOW THE FLORIDA FIRE CODE AND THE COUNTY FIRE CODE. BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT HAS AN ADDITIONAL 60 PAGES THAT WE WOULDN'T BE FOLLOWING THAT. SO THAT SEEMS, I'M JUST SAYING SOMEWHERE IN THERE IS A LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE FLORIDA. FIRE CODE AND THE COUNTY FIRE CODE SO SO YEAH RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHAT THEY DO THE COUNTY USES THEIR CODE AND THE FIRE PREVENTION CODE RIGHT BUT I'M JUST SAYING IN THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IS WE WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE COUNTY CODE AS WELL WITH THEIR 60 PAGES OF ONLY UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST AFTER OCTOBER 1ST THAT IS NIL IS NONE I'M NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT ANYMORE WE'RE JUST GOING TO USE THE SAFEST BOOK WE JUST NEED TO CORRECT THAT SOMEWHERE IN THERE SURE CORRECT THAT LINE YES OKAY THAT'S IT THANK YOU THANKS COMMISSIONER BLUM UM YOU JUST COMMISSIONER CALSO ASKED ABOUT THE FEE SCHEDULE AND YOU SAID THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF DATE WHEN OR TIMELINE? BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHAT THAT'S NO, NO, FOR SURE. FOR SURE. THEY'RE DOING IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. WE ALREADY SUBMIT, THEY SUBMIT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS DOING THIS AS WELL. SO WE HAVE SUBMITTED IT TO THEM AND NOW WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIMELINE. RIGHT NOW I DON'T, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S SOON. HOPEFULLY IT'S SOON BECAUSE I WANT TO GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF. TO SEE WHAT THE FEES ARE, WHAT THE PERMIT FEES ARE, AND AGAIN, I WANT IT TO BE AS COST-EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. AGAIN, I REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO COME AND ENJOY A BUSINESS HERE AND GET THEIR PERMITS DONE QUICKLY INSTEAD OF JUST TAKING TIME. AND I WANT TO EDUCATE BEFORE I ENFORCE. I REALLY BELIEVE IN THAT. I REALLY BELIEVE TO EDUCATE BEFORE YOU ENFORCE SO THAT CONTRACTOR COULD SAY, HEY, EVERYTHING IS DONE, AND WE CHECK THE BOX, AND WE HAND THE PERMIT, AND WE'LL GO OUT. MAKE SOME MONEY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YEAH. THANK YOU. NOTHING ELSE. COMMISSIONER STERLING. YEAH. UM, I JUST WANT TO BRING UP AGAIN ABOUT THIS OPEN BURNING. UM, CAUSE I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THIS AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS HAVE THESE LITTLE CHIMNEYS OR THESE EVEN THE GAS, UM, FIRE PITS OR FIRE TABLES AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND ACTUALLY WHEN I WAS EXPLORING, I THINK IT WAS UNDER THE, THE FOREST PROTECTION, VERBIAGE OF THE STATE FLORIDA, THEY KIND OF ACTUALLY DELINEATE. YEAH, IF YOU'RE BURNING WOOD, CHARCOAL, GAS, IF THE OPEN FIRE IS LIKE THREE FEET IN DIAMETER, IF IT'S 25 FEET AWAY FROM THE HOUSE OR THE STRUCTURE, THEN IT'S PERMITTED. AND I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I MIGHT RECOMMEND IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD GET THAT, JUST SO THAT SOMEBODY THAT JUST HAS THEIR LITTLE BACKYARD CHIMNEY DOESN'T GET THEIR NEIGHBOR CALLING, WELL, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION. SURE, WE COULD DO THAT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. WE COULD HAVE OPEN BURNING. I GOT IT IN MY NOTES. OKAY. AND WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS IN THE STATE. IT IS. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO. I THINK IT WAS UNDER THE FOREST PROTECTION. IT IS. PROTECTION. SO, YEAH, YOU MAY JUST ADOPT THAT. WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH FORESTRY. OH, YOU DO? WE DO. WE GOT A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. I DO. I HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH FORESTRY. WHEN I WAS CHIEF IN PRATT & WHITNEY, WE USED THEM CONSTANTLY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DANGEROUS STUFF BACK THERE. AND WHEN THERE'S A FOREST FIRE, WE NEED THEM. AND THEY'RE SO HELPFUL. AND EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A QUESTION, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS OPEN BURN, TAKE A GUIDE AND GUIDE ME CORRECTLY AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND THEN I ADOPT IT AND LET'S GO. OKAY. YEAH, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. SURE. THANK YOU. YOU MAY JUST HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT YOU DON'T GET ALONG WITH. I KNOW. I SEE A LITTLE FLAME. YEAH. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. SO ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? NO, NO COMMENT. ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? SO I'LL START ON MY RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER STERLING. CAN I JUST CLARIFY A COUPLE POINTS THAT I THINK WERE ASKED JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE MOTION? SURE. THERE'S REFERENCE TO THE 2004 EDITION BEING REFERENCED AS WELL AS THE COUNTY FIRE CODE BEING REFERENCED. IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION 1019, THAT'S CROSSED OUT, BOTH REFERENCE TO 2004 AND THE COUNTY. THAT MEANS THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT CODE SAYS. IT WILL BE STRICKEN. THE NEW LANGUAGE IS UNDERLINED. SO JUST FOR YOUR PURPOSES, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE TWO ITEMS BECAUSE THOSE WILL BE STRICKEN IF THIS IS ADOPTED. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. YEAH, I THINK MAYBE SOMETHING SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS NOTED WAS IF YOU LOOK AT THE ATTACHMENT NUMBER TWO, SECTION 10-19. YEP. IT SAYS THERE IS HEREBY ADOPTED THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE 2004 EDITION. YEAH. THAT'S CROSSED OUT. NO, NOT ON THE ATTACHMENT. THE ATTACHMENT IS THE EXISTING CODE. IT'S THERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE. OH. SO THAT SHOULD BE ALL REDLINED AS WELL? [00:20:01] IT'S EASIER IF YOU JUST LOOK AT WHAT SECTION TWO IS OF THE ORDINANCE. SECTION TWO WILL SHOW YOU AN UNDERLINED LANGUAGE BEING ADDED. OKAY. AND WHAT'S BEING STRICKEN IS STRUCK THROUGH. THE ATTACHMENT IS THE EXISTING CODE AS IS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, YOU'RE NOT GETTING WHAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. SO THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS TO YOU ABOUT CLARIFICATION THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT IS BEING STRICKEN IN THE NEW CODE. OKAY. SO TO TO YOUR COMMISSIONER TELL US OH YEAH THAT NO REFERENCE TO THE COUNTY CODE WILL BE IN THE NEW ORDINANCE PERFECT THANK YOU OKAY THANK YOU ALL RIGHT ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION STARTING ON MY RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER STERLING UM YEAH IN REGARDS TO THOSE UH 60 AMENDMENTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU WITH THE COUNTY CODE UM YOU WERE SAYING HAS ANYBODY REALLY REVIEWED THOSE IS ANY OF THOSE REALLY KIND OF PERTINENT TO THE POTENTIALLY, WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO ACCOUNT JUPITER? YEAH, THE FIRE CHIEF AND I HAVE REVIEWED THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND HE ALSO AGREES WITH ME TO SAY THAT THAT'S JUST REDUNDANT. AGAIN, HOW I SEE IT IS THAT THIS IS THE SAFEST BOOK OUT THERE. OKAY? WHY WOULD YOU ADD OR SUBTRACT TO IT? IT WORKS. IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, EVERYBODY USES IT. NOW, IF YOU ADD MORE TO IT, WHY? AND WE'VE SEEN IT. WE DON'T AGREE WITH IT. AND I'D RATHER JUST MAKE IT NICE AND EASY, BUT VERY SAFE. COMMISSIONER BLUM? I DO SEE ON 1019A, IT DOES SAY AS AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAD SAID. IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. OH, PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELSO? NO COMMENT. COMMISSIONER CASSATT-LEE? JUST ONE COMMENT. I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET INFORMATION OUT, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO IT, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE OPEN FIRE BECAUSE EVERYBODY LIKES TO HAVE A FIRE PIT OR OKAY AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A TOWN NEWSPAPER THAT COMES OUT I THINK IT'S A QUARTERLY THAT HAS ALL THE EVENTS GOING ON MAYBE SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT IT YOU KNOW WELL WE'RE GOING TO SEND EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS TO ALL THE CONTRACTORS WE'RE GOING TO DO WEBSITE UPDATES UH IN THE IN THE TOWN WEB WEB PAGE THEY'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO COORDINATE WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT HERE SO THEY COULD KNOW BUT THE OPEN BURN THAT'S A GREAT IDEA WELL, I'M TALKING MORE TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE WEBSITE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT IT LIKE IN THE WINTER NEWSPAPER THAT COMES OUT. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BURN, USUALLY. OKAY. AND ALL YOUR HOA CONTACTS. OH, HOA, GOOD. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. OKAY, HOA. I'M NOTING ALL THIS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI. NO COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER ROGEL. NO COMMENT. COMMISSIONER KEENAN. NO COMMENT. THANK YOU. SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF ORDINANCE 11-26 FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT APPLICATION. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. COMMISSIONER KEENAN AND COMMISSIONER ROGEL. LET'S SEE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY POST PASSES UNANIMOUSLY [STAFF UPDATE] WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF UPDATE UH PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR IF YOU COULD HEY THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU YOU COULD GIVE US A REPORT THANK YOU THE ONLY UPDATE I HAVE IS THAT THE APPLICATIONS THAT YOU HEARD ON JUPITER CHRISTIAN SCHOOL FOR LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES WAS SCHEDULED FOR TOWN COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON APRIL 21ST. AND IT WAS POSTPONED WITHOUT A SPECIFIC DATE, AND THAT MOTION PASSED 4-1, 4-1. SO CURRENTLY IT'S NOT MOVING FORWARD AT THIS TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND THEN ALSO JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT. THE TOWN IS HAVING AN ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION ON MAY 21ST AT THE TOWN GREEN IN COORDINATION WITH THE JUPITER TEQUESTA GARDEN CLUB, AND THAT WILL BE FROM 4-30 TO 7-30. THAT WOULD BE A TREE GIVEAWAY. HOW BIG? I'M NOT SURE HOW BIG THE TREES ARE. THEY'RE USUALLY NOT TOO BIG. I MEAN, USUALLY LIKE MAYBE THREE FEET OR FOUR MAYBE. OKAY, GOOD IDEA. 4.30 YOU SAID? 4.30. ON WHAT DATE? THE 21ST, THE THURSDAY. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, WOULD SOMEONE MAKE... WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT ON THE TOWN COUNCIL VOTE ON POSTPONING THE READING OF THE AMENDMENT FOR SUBSEQUENT PERMITS? THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO REQUEST IT [00:25:01] TO BE PLACED BACK ON THE AGENDA. SO UNTIL THAT TIME... THE APPLICANT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH STAFF, TO WORK THROUGH ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED. WE'RE JUST AT A POINT WHERE THEY'RE, I GUESS, DECIDING HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CHAIR TO FORMALLY RECOGNIZE THE WONDERFUL ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF STEPHANIE AND HER AMAZING NUMBER OF YEARS IN SERVICE ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US. YES. 30 YEARS. THANKS, PAUL. I'LL SEND THAT ALONG TO HER. APPRECIATE IT. WE HAD A CELEBRATION TODAY. I THINK YOU WERE ALL NOTIFIED. BUT WE HAD A CELEBRATION THIS AFTERNOON FOR HER 30-YEAR ANNIVERSARY. NICE. THANK YOU. OKAY, WITH THAT, WOULD SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE ARE ADJOURNED. NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 9TH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.