>> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
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IT'S 7:00 PM.I'D LIKE TO CALL THE AUGUST 12, 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.
STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
>> I'M GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
>> COMMISSIONER MICHAEL CASSATLY? COMMISSIONER BETH KELSO?
>> COMMISSIONER ROBERT GRABOWSKI?
>> COMMISSIONER DAVID THOMPSON? COMMISSIONER KAREN VINSON?
>> COMMISSIONER CYNTHIA BLUM? THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER BLUM AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON ARE NOT HERE THIS EVENING.
COMMISSIONER KEENAN, YOU WILL BE VOTING TONIGHT?
>> JUST AS A LITTLE HELPFUL HINT, IF SOME OF YOU ALL ARE NEW UP HERE, THE BUTTON IS OFF WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY ON.
THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING RED ON YOUR SELECTOR BUTTON, AND YOU NEED TO SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MIC IN ORDER FOR THESE THINGS TO PICK IT UP.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEW PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER BOB GRABOWSKI ON MY FAR RIGHT AND COMMISSIONER MARTY ROGOL HERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE AND WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE TOWN OF JUPITER COMMUNITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
NOW THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SUBMIT A GREEN CARD TO THE SECRETARY, MS. AYRES UP HERE.
NEXT ARE CITIZEN COMMENTS UNRELATED TO AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING'S MEETING.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THE BOARD WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING.ANY ISSUES WILL BE NOTED BY STAFF FOR FOLLOW UP, AS APPROPRIATE.
YOU DO NEED TO FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD.
SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO EXPRESS THEIR COMMENTS.
STAFF, ARE THERE ANY COMMENT CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC OR ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT?
>> THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS REVIEW OF JUNE 10, 2020 5 MINUTES.
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ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.>> I SO MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOTION.
>> I'VE GOT INITIAL FROM COMMISSIONER KELSO, AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CASSATLY.
>> ANY NAYS? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
NEXT, THE NORMAL ORDER OF BUSINESS.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS]
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA FROM STAFF?>> NO CHANGES. THANKS. COULD THE SECRETARY PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES FOR THIS EVENING? THIS IS FOR APPLICANTS AND STAFF WHO MAY BE PROVIDING TESTIMONY, AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAKING COMMENTS.
>> PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS MATTER IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. YOU CAN BE SEATED.
>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS
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THE PROMENADE SHOPPES SITE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION.ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES? LET'S START ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> I DROVE BY THE SITE AND SPOKE TO TOWN STAFF.
>> I DROVE BY THE SITE AND WALKED THE PROPERTY.
>> I DROVE BY THE SIDE AS WELL.
>> NOT ONLY DID I DRIVE BY THE SIT ON THE WAY HERE, BUT EAT AT ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS AT THAT LOCATION ON A REGULAR BASIS.
>> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION.
>> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD.
EMILY O' MAHONEY WITH 2GHO, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND PLANNERS FOR THIS PROJECT, PROMENADE SHOPPES, AND THIS IS A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT WITH SHARED PARKING.
LET'S MAKE SURE. WE WANT TO INCREASE THE EXISTING MEDICAL OFFICE AND OUTDOOR SEATING.
TO DO THIS, WE ARE ASKING FOR A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INDIANTOWN ROAD, JUST WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND CIRCLE K. IT'S AN EXISTING SITE IT'S BEEN IN OPERATION FOR SOME TIME.
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IT'S GOT TWO BUILDINGS FACING ON THE STREET AND PARKING BEHIND IT.IN ADDITION, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF PRESERVE AREA ON THIS SITE.
IN 2003, IT WAS INITIALLY GRANTED APPROVAL.
THIS SITE WAS DEVELOPED IN 2005.
IN 2012, THERE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENT APPROVAL FOR EIGHT OUTDOOR BAR SEATS.
THIS IS FROM 2022 TO ADDRESS THE INCREASE IN OUTDOOR SEATING, WHICH HAPPENED PRIMARILY AFTER COVID AND TO ADJUST SOME OF THE USES WITHIN THE CENTER.
THIS IS A SIMPLE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE TWO BUILDINGS AND THE CONSISTENT TWO BAYS OF PARKING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE SITE.
YOU COULD EVALUATE ON THE SITE PLAN, THE SHARED PARKING RATIO, EVERYTHING WORKS.
IN FACT, TODAY, EVERYTHING WORKS AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS.
EVERYONE IS ABLE TO FIND PARKING SPACES.
WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION TO KEEPING A VIBRANT CENTER.
AS YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE OVER TIME, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MARKET DEMANDS.
JUPITER GRILL HAS A REALLY NICE FOLLOWING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ENJOY SITTING OUTSIDE THERE AND IT HAS NOT CREATED A PARKING ISSUE.
THE SITE'S ABOUT 3.3 ACRES AND 27,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING.
WE'RE NOT INCREASING ANY BUILDING, AND THE EXISTING PARKING STAYS THE SAME.
BY CODE, WE WOULD NEED 179 SPACES.
THAT'S 16 MORE SPACES THAN WHAT EXISTS ON-SITE.
THAT'S WHAT THE SHARED PARKING IS FOR, IF I DID MY MATH RIGHT.
THE SHARED PARKING COMES OUT LESS THAN THE AMOUNT OF SPACES THAT ARE THERE.
VERY SIMPLY, WE'RE REDUCING SOME OF THE OFFICE RETAIL.
NO, INCREASING 361 SQUARE FEET.
WE ARE DECREASING RESTAURANT AND WE ARE INCREASING MEDICAL OFFICE, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE.
IT'S OUTDOOR SEATING AND ADDITIONAL MEDICAL USE THAT DRIVES THIS AND THE TPS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY.
WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS VIBRANT CENTER TO MAKE IT FULLY LEASABLE.
ONE OF GREAT ASPECTS WITHIN THE TOWN IS NOT TO HAVE VACANT SPACE. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING FOR THE RECORD, THATCHER HART, PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, THE SUBJECT APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS FOR A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TENANTS OF THE PLAZA BEFORE YOU, AS WELL AS AN INCREASE OF THE MEDICAL USE AND AN INCREASE OF THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA.
THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL FOR THE OUTDOOR SEATING THAT IS ON THE SITE WAS IN 2012.
HOWEVER, SINCE THAT POINT AND BECAUSE OF THE COVID PANDEMIC, THE INCREASE OF SEATING HAS OCCURRED, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT HAS REQUIRED AN INCREASE OF THE MEDICAL USE ON-SITE.
IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH OF THOSE REQUESTS, THEY NEEDED TO DO A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT ON THE SITE, AND WE HAVE COORDINATED THAT AND RECEIVED THE APPROPRIATE APPROVALS AND MADE SURE THAT THIS AGREEMENT WOULD BE BRINGING THE PLAZA INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN CODE.
BUT WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S START WITH THE COMMISSION WHO HAS QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> JUST A FEW BACKGROUND QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET CLEAR.
THE ADDITIONAL SATING THAT IS OUTDOORS, IS IT THE SAME AMOUNT NOW AS IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2021 COVID ERA?
IS THERE AN INTENTION TO MAKE IT EVEN GREATER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW?
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>> IS THE MEDICAL USE EXISTING NOW OR IS IT IN INTENDED USE ONCE APPROVAL IS HAD? THE MEDICAL THE MEDICAL FACILITY THAT YOU SUPPOSED TO BE PROFESSIONALS IS NOW MEDICAL?
>> THE MEDICAL USE IS ALREADY IN?
>> WELL, THERE IS MEDICAL USE, BUT FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I AM FILLING IN FOR SOMEONE TODAY.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE MEDICAL USE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL EXISTS TODAY.
THIS IS BRINGING IT INTO COMPLIANCE.
>> IT'S A POST FACTO BRING INTO COMPLIANCE?
>> I'D HAVE TO GO LOOK BACK IN MY NOTES.
>> WHAT WAS THE PROFESSIONAL USE? DO YOU KNOW?
>> BEFORE IT WAS A MEDICAL USE, IT WAS PROFESSIONALLY USED.
>> MOST OF IT'S BEEN OFFICE IN THERE.
IT'S CHANGED OVER TIME TO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT EXACT SPACE HAS BEEN.
>> IS THERE AN EXPLANATION FOR THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN WHEN THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS MADE IN 2022, AND HERE WE ARE IN 2025? SEEMS LIKE A LONG STRETCH OF TIME THERE.
WE STARTED WORKING ON IT, WENT BACK AND FORTH.
I THINK JUST BETWEEN EVERYTHING THAT WENT ON, IT DIDN'T BECOME A PRIORITY AND IT JUST DIDN'T GET THE ATTENTION IT NEEDED.
>> ONE THING I'D ADD IS THE TOWN HAS ALWAYS TAKEN A VERY FRIENDLY APPROACH TO COMPLIANCE.
THE CENTER HAS BEEN FUNCTIONING AND EVIDENCE OF THAT IS THE SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WORKS, THE SHARED PARKING NUMBERS WORK.
BUT WE TAKE A VERY FRIENDLY APPROACH TO COMPLIANCE.
THERE WAS ALSO A PERIOD OF TIME IN THAT THREE YEARS WHERE THE APPLICANT WAS PURSUING OTHER OPTIONS FOR REDEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY.
THEY COME IN AND MET WITH US ON A FEW THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE RECTIFIED THE ISSUE, BUT DIDN'T END UP PURSUING THEM.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES PROPOSED OVER THE YEARS THAT DIDN'T END UP HAPPENING.
WE GOT TO THIS POINT WHERE THEY JUST WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT THEY HAD EXISTING TO GET IT CLOSED OUT AND GET IT COMPLIANCE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
>> IS THE SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT IN EXISTENCE YET?
>> NO. IT'S NOT. THIS IS A NEW SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.
>> I THINK THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO NOT APPROVE IT UNLESS THAT CONDITION IS MET, AS I RECALL.
>> IT'S JUST A STANDARD CONDITION THAT WE GET THE ACTUAL SIGNED AND EXECUTED SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.
THAT'S A STANDARD CONDITION ON ANY PROJECT THAT HAS SHARED PARKING.
>> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROGOL?
>> I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A PART IN HERE ABOUT THE LIGHT BULBS AND MAINTENANCE BEING AT THE CODE, THAT IF THE LIGHTS WERE OUT, THAT THEY WOULD ASK THEM TO REMOVE THEM AND THAT SOME LANDSCAPING WOULD BE IMPROVED.
IT JUST BROUGHT IT UP TO ME THE OVERALL SHAPE OF THE BUILDING IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND IT ACTUALLY NEEDS A LOT OF WORK AND YOU HAVE CHAIRS AND STUFF THAT ARE CHAINED AND SITTING OUT FRONT, WHICH IS WHAT IS FACING INDIANTOWN ROAD.
IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE BECAUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OUTSIDE STORAGE AREA AND IT FACES THE ROAD?
>> I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT BACK.
I MEAN, CONCERNING THE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING, WE UNDERSTAND THAT CONDITION, AND THAT'S A MAINTENANCE THING.
I THINK THAT RELY LIGHTS INTENT TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR STORAGE AREA ON THE FRONT ON INDIANTOWN.
>> IF YOU DRIVE BY AND LOOK, YOU'LL SEE HUGE STACKS OF THE PLASTIC CHAIRS THAT ARE SITTING THERE AND THEY FACE INDIANTOWN ROAD, SO IT'S A VERY POOR LOOK.
THE ONLY REASON WHY I ADD THAT IS BECAUSE THEY WERE SAYING THE THINGS ABOUT THE LIGHT ULT, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS. THANK YOU.
>> THANKS. JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR TOWN STAFF.
IN THIS SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAVE MIXED USES, YOU'VE GOT MEDICAL, YOU'VE GOT RESTAURANT, YOU GOT RETAIL.
WE DON'T TYPICALLY SPECIFY THE PERCENTAGES OF THOSE USES.
IT'S MORE OF SELF-GOVERNED BY THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH OF THOSE USES?
>> WELL, THE SHARED PARKING ACTUALLY RECOGNIZES THAT THOSE PARTICULAR USES HAVE DIFFERENT PEAK TIMES.
IT GIVES YOU A REDUCTION FOR THE TIMES AT WHICH YOU DON'T PEEK.
>> FROM HERE ON OUT, WE'RE GETTING
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A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.ANY CHANGES IN USE IN THE FUTURE WILL HAVE TO BE RERUN THROUGH THAT PARKING ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL COMPLIANT.
>> BECAUSE THE OBVIOUS QUESTION YOU HAVE IS, YOU LOSE THE PIANO PEOPLE AND YOU PUT IN A DENTAL OFFICE, SO NOW INSTEAD OF ONE PER 1,000, YOU'RE RUNNING SEVEN PER 1,000 PEOPLE THROUGH THERE IN A LOT OF VOLUME.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ONCE THEY'VE ESTABLISHED A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT, WE CAN MAKE ADMINISTRATIVE MODIFICATIONS TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.
FOR BETTER OR WORSE, A FEW YEARS AGO, THE TOWN DECIDED NOT TO CONTINUE PROCESSING BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS.
THROUGH THAT PROCESS, OUR PLANNING & ZONING STAFF MONITORED THOSE CHANGES IN USES AND ENSURED THAT EVERYTHING WAS KEPT IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THAT NO LONGER OCCURS, THERE'S NO COP, EFFECTIVELY.
THERE'S NOTHING PROACTIVE THAT'S DONE TO KEEP THINGS IN COMPLIANCE.
SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN LIKE THIS APPLICATION WHERE THEY FALL OUT OF COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD CHANGES IN USE AND DIDN'T DO THE DELIBERATE PROCESS UPDATE.
>> THANKS. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. COMMISSIONER CASSATLY.
>> I WAS CONCERNED A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE LIGHTING LOOKS LIKE AT NIGHT.
IT WAS BRICK PAVERS AND IT'S NOT THE MOST STABLE AREA WITH THE CHAIRS STICKING OUT THE LEGS.
MY OTHER CONCERN WAS THE NOISE LEVEL.
WHEN I WAS THERE WAS DURING THE DAY.
I DON'T EVEN THINK THE RESTAURANT WAS OPEN, OR IF THERE WAS, I DIDN'T SEE ANY ACTIVITY.
I WONDER, IS THERE A VOLUME FOR THAT MUSIC? I NOTICED THERE WAS A COMPLAINT WHEN THEY HAD LIVE MUSIC, WHICH THEY HAVE SINCE SAID THEY WON'T DO AGAIN.
BUT THERE WAS PIPED IN MUSIC AND I'M WONDERING, I KNOW IT'S A LONG WAY TO RESIDENTS HOMES, IF THERE'S A VOLUME LIMIT ON THAT OR WE NEED TO STATE SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
>> GO AHEAD. YOU GUYS ANSWER THAT THEN.
>> THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MEET THE TOWN SOUND ORDINANCE.
IF IT WAS AN ISSUE, OUR CODE OFFICERS COULD GO OUT THERE AND MEASURE IT AT THE PROPERTY LINE TO MAKE SURE IT'S COMPLIANT.
>> THAT WOULD BE BY COMPLAINT FROM SOMEONE TO INITIATE THAT?
>> THAT'S WHAT WOULD GENERATE IT.
>> THANKS. COMMISSIONER KELSO.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. ON THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, NUMBER 6, ABOUT THE LIGHTING, IT SAYS THE OWNER SHALL PROVIDE A MONTHLY MONITORING AND MAINTENANCE PLAN TO ENSURE THE STRING LIGHTING OF THE BUILDING ARE FUNCTIONING AND ANY DEAD BULBS WILL BE REPLACED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
IN A TIMELY MANNER IS PRETTY VAGUE.
WHAT'S A TIMELY MANNER? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE WITHIN 10 DAYS OF THE MONTHLY INSPECTION.
THAT WOULD GIVE UP TO 40 DAYS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO NOTICE AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A FREQUENTLY COMMENTED THING.
THE SECOND THING IS, AND SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED IN 2022, AND THOSE CHAIRS AND TABLES AND THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE THEN.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A FRIENDLY APPROACH TO COMPLIANCE, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY MAJOR SLIPPERY SLOPE BECAUSE IN THE NEXT PERSON, IF I WANT TO PUT CHAIRS OUT IN FRONT OF MY RESTAURANT OR BUSINESS, I'M GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU ALLOWED THEM TO DO IT, AND YOU EVEN KNEW THAT THEY HAD AN APPLICATION IN AND THEN YOU DID NOTHING ABOUT IT.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A FOLLOW UP PROCESS? IF A BUSINESS PUTS IN AN APPLICATION AND THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE COMMENTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, DO YOU PUT THAT SOMEHOW IN A TICKLER FILE TO GO CHECK THAT PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVEN'T GONE AHEAD WITH WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO?
>> NOT TO THAT DELIBERATE LEVEL.
THERE ARE THINGS WE WILL FOLLOW UP ON BECAUSE WE'RE AWARE OF IT, BUT THERE IS NOT A STANDARD PRACTICE FOR FOLLOWING UP AND INITIATING THE CODE COMPLIANCE.
WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE AS WELL, THAT IF YOU DON'T RESPOND WITHIN 60 DAYS, YOUR APPLICATION IS CONSIDERED WITHDRAWN, BUT THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> EXACTLY. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS OF JUPITER, IS THAT WE DO HAVE HIGH STANDARDS AND WE WANT THINGS TO LOOK NICE AND BE NICE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.
I THINK ESPECIALLY IN A CASE LIKE THIS WHERE THEY'VE GIVEN US NOTICE THAT THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PROCESS IN PLACE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY JUST DISAPPEAR, THAT WE GO AND CHECK THAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT.
IT'S LIKE ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS LATER.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY MAJOR SLIPPERY SLOPE.
>> THEN THE LAST THING, JUST AN INCONSISTENCY I NOTICED IN THE STAFF REPORT UNDER LANDSCAPING.
IT SAID THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH CHAPTER 23, ENTITLED LANDSCAPING, BUT THEN THE APPLICANT STATEMENT OF YOU SAYS, AS REQUESTED BY THE TOWN, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO BRING THE LANDSCAPE INTO COMPLIANCE.
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TO THAT END, A LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENT PLAN HAS BEEN PREPARED AND SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE RESUBMITTAL.DOES THAT MEAN THERE SHOULD BE A LANDSCAPE PLAN BRINGING IT UP TO CODE OR YOUR EXPECTATIONS THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF THIS APPLICATION?
>> TO YOUR EARLIER POINT, THERE'S BEEN SOME TIME BETWEEN WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED AND TODAY.
WE BELIEVE THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT WE'LL GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S BEEN ADDRESSED ACCORDING TO THEIR APPLICATION.
THEY DID SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN A BIT AND THEY'VE DONE SOME WORK, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS STILL COMPLIANT.
>> MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF THE CONDITIONS, IS MAKING SURE THE LANDSCAPE IS UP TO THE PLAN.
>> CERTAINLY. IT COULD BE ADDED TONIGHT AS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSION.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI.
>> I'M GOING TO POKE AT ITEM NUMBER 6 OF THE CONDITIONS ALSO.
COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW A MONTHLY MONITORING AND MAINTENANCE PLAN IS GOING TO ENSURE THAT THE LIGHTING WON'T BE IN THE CONDITION IT IS TODAY? BY THE WAY, WHEN I DROVE PAST IT TODAY, I IMMEDIATELY SPOTTED THREE BULBS OUT.
>> THE PURPOSE OF THE CONDITION, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A GREAT ENFORCEMENT METRIC IN THE CODE ABSENT THIS CONDITION.
REALLY, THE CONDITION WAS DESIGNED TO HAVE THEM GIVE US A PLAN FOR HOW THEY INTEND TO DO THINGS.
BUT AT THE VERY END OF THE CONDITION IT SAYS, IF THE LIGHTS ARE NOT MAINTAINED, THEY'RE TO BE REMOVED.
THAT ULTIMATELY COULD BE THE SCENARIO WHICH HAPPENS, BUT THIS CONDITION AT LEAST GIVES US AN ENFORCEMENT METRIC THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY AS ADOPTED.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THEY HAVE A DEMONSTRATED HISTORY OF NOT MAINTAINING THE LIGHTS.
>> THERE IS NO METRIC IN THE CODE, THOUGH, THAT REQUIRES THEM TO MAINTAIN THEM AT THIS POINT.
WITH THIS CONDITION, IT BECOMES AN ENFORCEABLE METRIC THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH COMPLIANCE ON.
>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
>> ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION?
>> I GOT TWO. I GOT A COUPLE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
APPARENTLY, WE'RE ALL STUCK ON THE LIGHTS.
BUT GOING BACK TO THE LIGHTS, WHAT IS THE PLAN IF YOU SAY, YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR LIGHT BULBS, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY YOU DID THEM, YOU DIDN'T DO THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER, TAKE THEM DOWN? THEN WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE? IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN, OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE DARK AND YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE OUTSIDE SEATING, OR IS THE OUTSIDE SEATING GOING TO BE RESCINDED? I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN DO THAT.
>> SORRY. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE LIGHTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE STAFF REPORT ARE JUST THE STRING.
>> THE DECORATIVE STRING LIGHTS.
>> EXACTLY. NOT THE LIGHTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO MEET THE PHOTO METRICS IN THE TOWN CODE.
>> ARE THERE ENOUGH LIGHTS OUT THERE WITHOUT THOSE THAT IT WOULD MEET THAT STANDARD THAT IT WOULDN'T BECOME A SAFETY ISSUE?
>> THERE IS AN ADOPTED PHOTOMETRIC PLAN FOR THE SITE.
WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH PERMITTING, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLIANT WITH.
NOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE NOT DONE ANY COMPLIANCE CHECK ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT STANDARD.
WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO RECOMMEND, THAT PHOTOMETRIC STUDY BE DONE.
>> SINCE THERE'S A LIGHTING ISSUE, IS THERE POSSIBLE? SINCE IT WAS NEVER APPROVED, THE OUTDOOR DINING, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIGHTING ISSUE.
>> OUTDOOR DINING REALLY FALLS UNDER PATHWAYS, WHICH IS A PRETTY LOW OVERALL LEVEL.
MOST PEOPLE LIGHT THEM ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT LEVEL BECAUSE YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME LIGHTING THERE FOR THE SAFETY OF YOUR PATRONS AND FOR LIABILITY REASONS, BUT THE CODE PROVISION DOES NOT ADDRESS OUTDOOR SEATING AREAS SPECIFICALLY.
IT'S REALLY MORE FOCUSED ON PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS AND VEHICULAR USE AREAS.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT IT IN THE CONDITIONS FOR THE STORAGE AREA THAT'S OUT FRONT TO BE REMOVED?
>> STORAGE OF THE CHAIRS AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE OUT FRONT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THAT FACING INDIANTOWN ROAD LOOKS REALLY BAD WHEN YOU DRIVE BY.
THE OTHER THING IS, WHAT IS THE WALKWAY PATH? IT'S ONLY THE ONE WALKWAY PATH, CORRECT? ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE AS YOU'RE GOING IN IN BETWEEN THE TABLES.
>> THAT'S THE DESIGNATED PATH AS PART OF THE PLANS.
IT'S THE ONLY PATH THAT YOU CAN SUBTRACT OUT OF THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THERE MAY BE MORE PATHS THAT ACTUALLY ARE THROUGH THAT AREA ON BOTH SIDES, BUT YOU CAN ONLY SUBTRACT
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ONE PEDESTRIAN PATH AND NOT COUNTED FOR YOUR OUTDOOR SEATING AREA.THE PLAN THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE RESULT OF THAT METHODOLOGY BEING APPLIED.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THE CHAIRS IN FRONT ARE TO ME A VERY BIG ISSUE.
IF YOU'RE WANTING TO HAVE OUTSIDE DINING, YOU SHOULDN'T BE STORING THEM WHERE IT'S FACING YOUR MAIN ROAD.
>> NO. OUTDOOR STORAGE IS NOT PERMITTED UNLESS IT'S SCREENED APPROPRIATELY.
>> I MAY BE SAYING IT WRONG, CALLING IT OUTDOOR STORAGE, BUT THERE'S TWO HUGE STACKS OF CHAIRS WITH CHAIN WRAPPED AROUND THEM.
>> I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CODE PROVISION THAT SAYS THAT OUTDOOR STORAGE IS NOT PERMITTED UNLESS IT'S APPROPRIATELY SCREENED.
IF THEY WANT TO REQUEST OUTDOOR STORAGE OF THOSE MATERIALS OR CHAIRS, THEY NEED TO COME IN WITH A PLAN THAT SHOWS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SCREEN THEM FROM PUBLIC VIEW.
>> TO KAREN'S POINT, DRIVING BY UNTIL I WALKED THE SITE, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BACK OF THE RESTAURANT AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAD EVERYTHING STORED OUT THERE.
>> THIS I DON'T THINK HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM, BUT JUST A QUESTION.
IS THIS RELATED TO OR DOES THE PIZZA RESTAURANT HAVE AN OUTSIDE DINING PERMIT? BECAUSE THE PIZZA AREA BLOCKS THE WHOLE SIDEWALK WALKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, NOT THE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK, BUT THE PAVER BRICK, AND IT'S COMPLETELY ENCLOSED AND BLOCKED OFF.
I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER THAT'S IN CODE OR NOT.
>> THAT ONE'S SHOWN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLAN.
IT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE 10% RULE.
THOSE TABLES AND CHAIRS EXIST AND THEY'RE SHOWN IN THAT HATCHED AREA JUST RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.
>> BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY CLOSED OFF.
THERE'S NO WALKING BY THAT, IN IT, OR AROUND IT.
>> THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE THEN?
>> I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHERE THE PAVER BRICK IS, GOING ACROSS THE WHOLE FRONT, GOING DOWN INDIANTOWN ROAD? THAT WHOLE PAVER BRICK AREA IN FRONT OF THAT RESTAURANT IS CLOSED OFF WITH GREAT BIG HUGE LONG PLANTERS THAT BLOCK IT OFF SO THAT YOU CAN'T GET AROUND IT.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO CROSS OUT AND GO TO THE SIDEWALK.
IT'S GOOD ON ONE SIDE THAT YOU CAN DO IT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
YOU'D HAVE TO LITERALLY WALK THROUGH THE GRASS.
>> WELL, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS THOSE ITEMS ADDRESSED, THEY'VE WAITED THREE YEARS.
IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE, WE CAN GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
>> THIS ONE I DON'T THINK IS RELATED TO THEM.
I THINK THAT'S MORE RELATED TO JUST THE BUILDING AND THE GENERAL OVERALL OF THE BUILDING AND COMPLIANCE THERE.
>> TYPICALLY, WE DON'T PROCESS APPLICATIONS AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO PROCESS AN APPLICATION THAT HAS KNOWN VIOLATIONS.
>> PERHAPS A SUGGESTION, WE CAN PUT THAT ITEM AS A FOLLOW UP FOR STAFF AND THEN INCLUDE, I'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4 ADDITIONS TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
DOES IT SOUND LIKE AN APPROACH? THEN APPROVE THAT THIS EVENING.
THE ONES I HAD WERE WITHIN 10 DAYS OF THE MONTHLY INSPECTION, THEY'LL GET THE LIGHT REPAIRED, LANDSCAPING WILL BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE, WE'LL DO A PHOTOMETRIC STUDY TO MAKE SURE LIGHTING IS IN COMPLIANCE AND THE OUTDOOR STORAGE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THOSE CHAIRS CLEANED UP, AND THEY WON'T BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
>> THE COMPLIANCE OF THE WHOLE BUILDING WITHOUT SIDE DINING.
THAT'S FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT. JUST CONFIRM.
>> THAT WOULD BE STAFF. DID YOU GUYS GET ALL THOSE CONDITIONS? WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> A SUGGESTION I WOULD MAKE JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ACCELERATED THE REVIEW OF THIS TO THE SEPTEMBER 4TH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, IN ORDER FOR THOSE ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE WILL SCHEDULE THAT FOR OCTOBER 7TH INSTEAD BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE THOSE ITEMS ADDRESSED SUFFICIENTLY BEFORE IT GOES TO PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
>> WILL IT COME BACK BEFORE HERE OR IT JUST GOES TO THE TOWN COUNCIL?
>> UNLESS YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT COME BACK TO YOU, IT WILL NOT COME BACK TO YOU.
>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO NOT TAKE ACTION TONIGHT AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES YOU'VE BROUGHT FORWARD, AND WE WOULD RESCHEDULE IT FOR ANOTHER PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.
IF YOU WANT TO ADJUST THE CONDITIONS AND BE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
>> THAT SEEMS THE MOST EFFICIENT PATH WHERE WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING ALL THE ISSUES, IF EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH THAT.
>> I AM OKAY WITH IT, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE.
IF THESE THINGS, WHETHER WE CONSIDER IT NOW OR WE CONSIDER IT IN DECEMBER, THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE THAT WOULD PROMPT THE ACTION TO BE TAKEN.
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>> I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S REALLY AN ENFORCEMENT QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT HELL HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE YEARS, AND ANOTHER 30 MONTHS WOULDN'T MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE UNLESS THERE'S A CONSEQUENCE.
>> JOHN, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
>> WELL, IF THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH THAT, I THINK WE'VE HEARD A PRETTY CLEAR EXPECTATION, I WOULD REFER IT TO CODE OF COMPLIANCE IF THEY DON'T ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
THEN IT'S IN THE HANDS OF CODE COMPLIANCE UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO HEARING.
>> IT WOULDN'T BE APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT?
IF THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIVE, WE CAN PUT THEM ON NOTICE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING ANY NEW APPROVALS FOR THEM.
WE ARE GOING TO SEND THEM TO CODE COMPLIANCE.
WE'LL GIVE THEM A NOTICE OF HEARING AND SCHEDULE THEM BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE.
>> JOHN, JUST TO CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.
IF THESE EXEMPTIONS ARE APPROVED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL AND THEN THEY DON'T COMPLY, THEN IT WILL BECOME A CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE AND GO BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE?
>> LET ME JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING.
IF THEY'RE OUT OF CODE RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT INCUMBENT UPON TOWN COUNCIL TO START ENFORCING IT.
CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT WHENEVER THAT IS.
I THINK TO GUIDE THIS BEFORE ANY MOTIONS MADE, HEARING STAFF CONCERNS, KNOWING THAT WE JUST DELAYED THIS AND POSTPONED IT TO THE NEXT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING INSTEAD OF THE IMMEDIATE ONE, THIS COMMISSION'S CONCERNS REGARDING CODE WILL BE NOTED.
IT SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO TOWN COUNCIL.
I ASSUME THAT WILL BE A PRETTY BIG RED FLAG FOR TOWN COUNCIL THAT WILL GIVE TOWN THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS.
VERY VALID CONCERNS, BUT THREE OF THE FOUR NEW CONDITIONS ARE REALLY CODE ISSUES THAT THIS BOARD HAS PICKED UP.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A BASIS TO REALLY DENY THIS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY TO DENY IT.
EVEN IF THEY APPROVE IT WITH THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES, CAN ENFORCE THE CODE AT ANY TIME, AND STAFF CAN WITHHOLD ANY FUTURE APPLICATIONS OR IMPROVEMENTS IF THERE'S ANY OUTSTANDING CODE VIOLATIONS.
IF THAT HELPS CLEAR THINGS UP.
>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
>> I SO MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE FOUR ITEMS YOU NOTED.
DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY THEM, OR DO YOU HAVE THEM?
>> WE HAVE WHAT WAS BROUGHT INTO THE RECORD SO FAR AS THE CONDITIONS.
>> SUBJECT TO THE STAFF'S ORIGINAL CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THE FOUR ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS RAISED.
>> YES. I HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KELSO. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI.
>> TWO OPPOSED, COMMISSIONER CASSATLY AND COMMISSIONER VINSON.
MOTION CARRIES WITH THE VOTING OF 5-2. THANK YOU.
NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS THE PAM HEALTH REHAB HOSPITAL.
[3. PAM Health Rehabilitation Hospital]
THERE'S TWO SEPARATE ITEMS HERE.ONE IS THE AMENDMENT TO THE ABACOA WORKPLACE AND WORKPLACE LIMITED SUBDISTRICT MASTER SITE PLAN, AND THE SECOND ITEM IS THE INDIVIDUAL SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATIONS.
THESE ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED IN SEPARATE VOTES, ALTHOUGH WE'LL TALK ABOUT THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
WE NEED ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES, AND THIS TIME, I'LL START ON MY RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI.
>> I DROVE BY THE SITE, WALKED IT, AND THEY HAVE A MINOR AFFILIATION WITH JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER.
I'M ON THE CORPORATE BOARD OF JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER.
>> THANK YOU. I DROVE BY THE SITE AND SPOKE WITH TOWN STAFF.
>> I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS SINCE I'M AN EMPLOYEE OF JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER AND THEY ARE AFFILIATED.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, CHAIR, PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER VINSON IS DISCLOSING A VOTING CONFLICT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 112 AS HER EMPLOYMENT WITH THE APPLICANT.
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THEREFORE, SHE'S GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE AND SHE CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION, EITHER, SO I'M GOING TO ASK HER TO TAKE A SEAT IN THE FRONT ROW DURING THIS ITEM.>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> NONE OTHER THAN GOOGLE EARTH MAPS.
>> THANK YOU. WE'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION.
>. WELL, THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
FOR THE RECORD, ZACH CICIERA WITH COTLEUR & HEARING IN JUPITER.
HERE ON BEHALF OF PAM HEALTH REHAB SPECIALTY HOSPITAL.
WE DO HAVE OUR PAM TEAM SITTING RIGHT BEHIND ME HERE.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST THREE SEPARATE APPLICATIONS, FIRST BEING A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT, SECOND BEING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE, THIRD BEING A WORKPLACE SUBDISTRICT PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS IS ALL TO FACILITATE THE PROPOSED 21,000 SQUARE FOOT EXPANSION.
THE EXISTING PAM HEALTH REHAB HOSPITAL, AND THIS IS IN PARTNERSHIP, OF COURSE, WITH JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER.
FOR CONTEXT, THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF INNOVATION WAY AND PIONEER ROAD.
THIS IS WITHIN THE ABACOA WORKPLACE SUBDISTRICT, AND IT'S RIGHT BETWEEN MILITARY TRAIL AND CENTRAL BOULEVARD.
THE EXISTING HOSPITAL WAS ONLY CONSTRUCTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
PAM HEALTH REHAB HOSPITAL PROVIDES ACUTE INPATIENT REHAB AND OUTPATIENT THERAPY SURFACES.
IT SPECIALIZES IN STROKE, BRAIN INJURY, ORTHOPEDIC INJURIES, TRAUMA, CARDIAC, AND PULMONARY CONDITIONS.
THE CURRENT BUILDING IS TWO STORIES, 49,000 SQUARE FEET AND FEATURING 42 PATIENT BEDS AND 186 EMPLOYEES.
THE FACILITY IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY FREESTANDING ACUTE INPATIENT REHAB CENTER IN NORTHERN PALM BEACH COUNTY, WHICH ACTUALLY I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE TODAY.
SINCE THIS OPENED, IT HAS OPERATED AT FULL CAPACITY WITH A HIGH DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL INPATIENT BEDS.
INCREASING THIS FACILITY'S BED COUNT BY 50%, WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO HERE TODAY WILL FILL A CRITICAL MARKET DEMAND FOR THE COMMUNITY WHILE ALSO CREATING 50 ADDITIONAL FULL TIME JOBS.
HERE'S THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT, THE PROPOSED AND TO BE MORE ACCURATE, 21,186 SQUARE FOOT OUTPATIENT EXPANSION FEATURES 21 NEW PATIENT BEDS TOTALING 63 BEDS WITHIN THE FACILITY.
TO ACCOMMODATE THE VERY INTENSE PARKING DEMAND SPECIFICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TYPE OF USE, WE ARE EXPANDING THE PROPERTY ACREAGE NORTHWARD BY 1.84 ACRES.
THAT'S IN THAT RED BOX, YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN.
THE PROPERTY WILL NOW TOTAL 6.84 ACRES.
THE EXPANSION WILL PROVIDE A SEPARATE OUTPATIENT ENTRY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT EXPANSION POLYGON THERE ON YOUR SCREEN, FRONTING PIONEER ROAD, AND THE EXISTING ENTRANCE FOR INPATIENT WILL BE MAINTAINED.
SEVEN NEW ON-STREET PARKING SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED ALONG PIONEER ROAD AND INNOVATION WAY.
THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED BY DSC ARCHITECTS.
THEY DO MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS AND HOSPITALS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
IT'S REALLY JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE EXISTING CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
WE'RE REALLY NOT TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE WITH THIS EXPANSION BUILDING.
THE EXPANSION IS ENTIRELY ONE STORY.
FEATURES A RECOGNIZABLE FRONT ENTRY FOR OUTPATIENT SERVICES, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN THERE ON THAT GRAPHIC.
THE DESIGN RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE ABACOA POA COMMUNITY ARCHITECT ON JUNE 24, 2025.
THE APPLICANT, THE PROJECT TEAM, AS WELL AS THE ARCHITECT WORKED ALONGSIDE TOWN STAFF, WHICH HAS BEEN FIRST CLASS THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT THE EXPANSION DESIGN PROVIDED ADEQUATE WINDOW AND DOOR FENESTRATION ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
I REALLY DON'T WANT A BLANK WALL FACING A ROAD.
IN COMPARISON WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING, THE HEIGHT TO THE TOP OF THE FLAT ROOF, THE EXISTING BUILDING IS 33 FEET.
THE NEW EXPANSION AREA WILL BE JUST OVER 16 FEET, SO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE SCALE, ESPECIALLY ALONG PIONEER.
WE ARE ASKING FOR ONE WAIVER TONIGHT.
THE WAIVER REQUEST IS 94 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES IN ADDITION TO THE 160 REQUIRED BY CODE.
THE TOWN CODE ONLY ALLOWS PARKING TO EXCEED THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF SPACES BY UP TO 5%.
ANY ADDITIONAL EXCESS PARKING SHALL REQUIRE A WAIVER.
WE HAVE PROVIDED A PARKING STUDY AND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GRASS PARKING, WHICH SATISFIES TWO OUT OF THE FIVE POTENTIAL METHODS FOR JUSTIFYING THIS TYPE OF WAIVER,
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AND THAT'S WRITTEN IN THE TOWN CODE.THIS EXCESS PARKING IS REALLY A RESULT OF TWO SEPARATE FACTORS.
FIRST BEING THE 88 PARKING REQUIREMENT.
SINCE THIS IS A REHAB FACILITY, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE 20% OF OUR PROVIDED PARKING, NOT THE REQUIRED PARKING, THE PROVIDED PARKING 254 AS ADA SPACES.
THIS SEVERELY LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF STANDARD SPACES ON SITE, ESPECIALLY IF THOSE ADA SPACES AREN'T TAKEN UP DURING OPERATING HOURS, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS, OF COURSE, 24 HOURS.
BUT THE SECOND POINT WOULD BE THE TOWN DOES NOT PARK OR REQUIRE PARKING FOR SHIFT CHANGE OVERLAP.
SPECIFIC WITH THIS MEDICAL USE, ONE EMPLOYEE CAN'T LEAVE UNTIL THE NEXT ONE GETS THERE.
SHIFT CHANGE AT 7:00 AM AND 7:00 PM.
WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR 15-MINUTE OR 30-MINUTE OVERLAP, SO 15 MINUTES ON THE FRONT-END, 15 MINUTES ON THE BACK-END.
ALSO GIVEN THE COST OF LAND PRICES, THE APPLICANT WOULDN'T BE CONSTRUCTING THESE PARKING SPACES UNLESS THEY ABSOLUTELY NEEDED IT GIVEN THE PATIENT DEMAND, AND THIS HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED INTERNALLY BY THE PAM TEAM.
THIS IS A IMAGE THAT I JUST GRABBED OFF OF GOOGLE EARTH, BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO GOOGLE EARTH, GOOGLE MAPS.
WE INCLUDED A SEPARATE IMAGE TAKEN BY AN EMPLOYEE IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU CAN'T FIND A SPACE ON SITE.
THE DEMAND IS THERE AND THIS IS REALLY NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE TO THOSE PATIENTS.
TO MAKE ALL THIS HAPPEN, WE DO NEED AMENDMENT TO THE WORKPLACE SUBDISTRICT.
WE'RE RELOCATING 18,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OR R&D INDUSTRIAL USE FROM BLOCK C TO BLOCK I, AND THEN SLIGHTLY REWORKING THE ROADWAY NETWORKS TO SHIFT THE ACCESS DRIVE TO THE NORTH AND MAINTAIN CODE COMPLIANT BLOCK LENGTHS.
IT'S MUCH MORE DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT I DID WANT TO GLOSS OVER THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A SEPARATE APPLICATION THAT WE'LL NEED IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALL OF THESE APPROVALS.
THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THE SPECIALTY HOSPITAL IS ALREADY THERE, OF COURSE, SO WE'RE JUST EXPANDING THE APPROVED SPECIALTY HOSPITAL USE, WHICH IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE IN THE CODE.
THIS REQUEST SEEKS TO EXPAND THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE FROM 48,000 SQUARE FEET TO ABOUT 70,000 SQUARE FEET TOTAL.
STAFF HAS DEEMED THIS REQUEST COMPLIANT WITH THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE CODE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
ALSO, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED AND COMMITTED TO PAY A NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LINKAGE FEE OF ABOUT $22,000 UPON APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION AND PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY DEVELOPMENT PERMITS.
TO SUMMARIZE, I'VE ALREADY COVERED THE THREE APPLICATIONS, SITE PLAN AMENDMENT, SPECIAL EXCEPTION, AND SUBDISTRICT AMENDMENT.
THIS IS TO ALLOW TO BE SPECIFIC ONE LAST TIME HERE, 21,186 SQUARE FOOT EXPANSION FOR THE PAM HEALTH REHAB HOSPITAL IN PARTNERSHIP WITH JUPITER MEDICAL, 21 NEW PATIENT BEDS, AND SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO THE MEDICAL MARKET, FILLING A VERY CRITICAL NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WITH THAT, I WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF.
>> GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS JANET JOHNSTON, AND I'M WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.
AS THE APPLICANT STATED, THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE WORKPLACE AND WORKPLACE LIMITED SUBDISTRICT MASTER SITE PLAN, AS WELL AS AMEND THE SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION TO ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING SPECIALTY HOSPITAL, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL OUTPATIENT FACILITIES, INCREASING HOSPITAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND INCREASING THE NUMBER OF BEDS.
STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND HAS DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICATIONS ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TOWN'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN EXHIBIT 1 FOR THE SUBDISTRICT MASTER SITE PLAN AND EXHIBIT 2 FOR THE SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION AMENDMENTS.
THE SUBDISTRICT MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN AMENDED BEFORE WITH PREVIOUS SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS.
EACH AMENDMENT, STAFF HAS FOCUSED ON MAINTAINING THE BLOCK STRUCTURE THAT IS TYPICAL FOR ABACOA.
THIS AMENDMENT HAS MAINTAINED THE SIMILAR BLOCK STRUCTURE.
IT'S EXPECTED THAT THE SUBDISTRICT MASTER PLAN WILL BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE AS THE VACANT BLOCKS ARE DEVELOPED.
AS DISCUSSED BY THE APPLICANT, PART OF THIS REQUEST INCLUDES A WAIVER FOR EXCESSIVE PARKING.
TO JUSTIFY THIS, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A PARKING DEMAND STUDY, WHICH WAS REVISED AND E AILED TO THE COMMISSION ON FRIDAY,
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AS WELL AS BEING PROVIDED TO YOU TONIGHT.>> THE REVISED STUDY HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND FOUND TO BE SUFFICIENT ON THE CONDITION THAT FURTHER ANALYSIS IS PROVIDED, FOCUSING ON INCORPORATING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF PARKING GENERATION FOR HOSPITALS AT A NATIONAL LEVEL.
ADDITIONALLY, A CONDITION HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED REQUIRING THE OWNER PROVIDE A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT PERMITS THE USE OF EXCESS PARKING WITH ADJACENT UNDEVELOPED OR REDEVELOPED PROPERTIES IF AT TIME OF DEVELOPMENT, THE USES ARE FOUND TO BE COMPATIBLE FOR SHARED PARKING.
ADDITIONALLY, AS STATED BY THE APPLICANT, A CONDITION INCLUDING PAYMENT OF A WORKFORCE HOUSING LINKAGE FEE HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED AND REQUIRED ENGINEERING CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE LAND SUBDIVISION, AS WELL AS UTILITY CONDITIONS RELATED TO REVISING THE CONCEPTUAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND AMENDING THE WATER SERVICE AGREEMENT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED.
THERE ARE TWO ITEMS FOR A VOTE TONIGHT, WHICH WILL REQUIRE TWO MOTIONS.
THE FIRST IS THE SUBDISTRICT AMENDMENT, AND THE SECOND IS FOR THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND SITE PLAN.
WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S START ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> YEAH, I DO. I PRESUME THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO REDO THE PARKING ANALYSIS BASED UPON THE TOWN ENGINEER'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SUBMITTAL.
>> I BELIEVE THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL WOULD BE TO MONITOR THE DEMAND.
WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THAT DEMAND IS NECESSARY ON SITE TODAY AND WITH THE EXPANSION AS WELL TOO.
WE'RE COMMITTED TO MONITORING IN THE FUTURE, AND IF ANY CHANGES ARE NEEDED BY STAFF, WE'LL CERTAINLY MAKE THOSE.
>> I NOTICED IN THERE FOR THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT THAT THE OWNER HAD CONDITIONS.
IS THE TOWN PLANNING AND ZONING SATISFIED WITH THOSE CONDITIONS FOR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT?
>> I CONFIRMED WITH THE DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES THAT THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT BEING INCLUDED AS A CONDITION.
>> ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I NOTICED ON THE PLAN WAS THE PUBLIC SQUARE WAS GOING TO BE MOVED.
I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT ITS FINAL LOCATION IS TO BE ESTABLISHED LATER. PAPERWORK EXERCISE.
ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE SUBDISTRICT PLAN?
>> THE ONE SHOWN IN THE PRESENTATION.
>> NO. NOT THAT ONE. THE MASTER SITE PLAN, I GUESS.
>> IT'S JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THAT.
>> IT'S AT THE BASE OF BLOCK 1.
>> WHAT IT SHOWS ON THE BLOCK?
I'LL GIVE YOU THE PAGE. HOLD ON.
IT'S PAGE 30 OF 90 OF THE REPORT.
>> THE RED SQUARE INDICATES THE LOCATION IT WAS PREVIOUSLY MOVED TO WITH THE ORIGINAL PAM SPECIALTY HOSPITAL APPROVAL.
THEN AS THE BLOCK STRUCTURE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT WITH THE EXISTING HOSPITAL TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXPANSION AND THE ROADWAY NETWORK WAS SLIGHTLY SHIFTED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, THE PUBLIC SQUARE NEEDED TO MOVE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
IT'S LIKELY THAT THAT'S GOING TO MOVE AGAIN WHEN THAT BLOCK IS ACTUALLY PLANNED.
IT JUST SIGNIFIES THAT SOMEWHERE IN THAT BLOCK, THERE NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC SQUARE IN ORDER TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE BLOCK STRUCTURE THAT'S REQUIRED.
THE THREE CARD MONTE I DIDN'T.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE IN THAT BLOCK ULTIMATELY TO SIGNIFY THAT THAT IS THE LOCATION THAT'S COMPLIANT.
IT'S LIKELY TO BE MOVED AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON WHAT ACTUALLY GETS FINALLY BUILT ON THAT BLOCK AND DEVELOPED.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION, I THINK.
YOU NOTED YOU'RE OPERATING AT FULL CAPACITY NOW.
IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, THE EXPANSION WOULD BRING ON 50 NEW JOBS AND AN ADDITIONAL HOSPITAL BEDS, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MULTI-SHIFT WORK.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES IT'S GOING TO EXPAND AGAIN?
>> WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS AT THIS TIME,
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AND IF THEY WERE TO EXPAND AGAIN IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULD COME BACK THROUGH THIS EXACT PROCESS BEFORE YOU.>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELSO.
THE NEW EXTENSION IS ONE STORY, AND TO HIS LAST QUESTION, IS IT GOING TO BE BUILT IN SUCH A WAY THAT A SECOND AND THIRD STORY COULD BE BUILT ON TOP OF THAT IN THE FUTURE?
>> I HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANY FUTURE EXPANSIONS.
BUT, FOR THE RECORD, LIKE I SAID, IF WE WERE TO EXPAND IT AGAIN, WE WOULD COME BACK THROUGH THIS EXACT SAME PROCESS.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU AND I HAVEN'T HAD ANY TALKS WITH THE APPLICANT THAT THEY PLAN ON DOING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
>> I'M NOT REALLY ASKING WHETHER THEY HAVE THE PLANS NOW, BUT IS THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO BUILD RIGHT NOW, IS IT GOING TO BE BUILT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT COULD GO UP TO TWO AND THREE STORIES?
>> WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO JUST BUILD A ONE STORY BUILDING, YOU DO THAT DIFFERENTLY THAN IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A TWO OR THREE STORY BUILDING?
>> YEAH. WE'RE JUST PROPOSING A ONE STORY BUILDING.
>> SKIRTING AROUND THAT, BUT OKAY.
>> NOW, YOU SAID THE SHIFT CHANGE? WHEN IS SHIFT CHANGE?
>> MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE, IS YOU DID THE PARKING ANALYSIS FROM 1:00 PM TO 3:00 PM.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR THE EXEMPTION IS THIS SHIFT CHANGE NEED.
WHY WAS NOT DONE AT THAT TIME?
>> WELL, IT'S REALLY BETWEEN, I WOULD SAY 10:00 AND 3:00 IS THE PEAK DEMAND.
BUT WE DO HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR A SHIFT CHANGE IN THE CALCULATIONS.
NOW HOW THAT WORKS OUT FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE PROBABLY DO HAVE THE PARKING FOR THE SHIFT CHANGE AT THAT TIME.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THE TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AT THE PEAK DEMAND HOURS.
THAT WOULD BE ONE THING I WOULD WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE IF WE'RE GIVING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO BE ABLE TO PARK THAT MANY PLACES ON THE BASIS OF A SHIFT CHANGE, AND YET THE PARKING ANALYSIS DOESN'T INCLUDE THE SHIFT CHANGE THAT SEEMS A NON-STARTER FOR ME.
THEN THE NEXT THING I HAD A QUESTION ON IS THE CONNECTIVITY FROM CORPORATE WAY TO INNOVATION WAY.
WHAT WOULD THAT BE? THAT WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY? NO. EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY? EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
I THINK SO. WHATEVER. AT THE END.
>> NORTH SIDE THERE. IT SAYS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PRIVATE ROAD.
>> IT'LL ACTUALLY BE A STREET THAT ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO BE, WELL, WE PROPOSED FOR IT TO BE AN ALLEY, BUT TO WORK WITH THE TOWN'S BLOCK REQUIREMENTS, THAT HAS TO BE A PROPER STREET SO WE'VE CHANGED THAT.
THE GRAPHIC MIGHT BE A LITTLE OUTDATED FOR THE LABELING THERE, BUT ON THE ACTUAL SUBDISTRICT PLAN, WE HAVE THE STREET SHOWN THERE.
>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. IT'LL BE A PUBLIC STREET MAINTAINED BY THE TOWN OF JUPITER OR WHO WILL BE MAINTAINING THAT ROADWAY?
>> THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED AT THE TIME OF FLATTING, WHETHER THE TOWN IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THAT STREET.
TYPICALLY, THE TOWN ONLY TAKES OVER THE STREETS THAT ARE IN THE ABACOA MASTER PLAN.
BEYOND THAT, IT WOULD BE UP TO THAT DETERMINATION AT THE TIME OF SUBDIVISION PLAT REVIEW.
>> PERFECT. BUT IT WILL BE A PUBLIC ACCESSIBLE STREET?
YEAH. WE DO HAVE ROADS WITHIN ABACOA, JUST FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT THAT ARE PRIVATE ROADS, BUT THEY HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS ON THEM THAT ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO TRAVEL THEM.
>> CORRECT. GREAT. LAST QUESTION IS, I NOTICE THERE'S TWO GENERATORS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT WAS FOR THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL GENERATORS OR EQUIPMENT FOR THIS ADDITION.
IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE IT WAS IN A FUTURE PLAN OR AN IDEA THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH THE FACILITIES TO HANDLE THIS 50% INCREASE AND NOT HAVE TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT OF CAPACITY.
>> I DON'T KNOW ALL THE SPECIFICS, BUT WE DO HAVE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF OF THE EXPANSION, WHICH WILL BE SCREENED WITH A SCREEN WALL, REGARDING WHAT EXACTLY IS UP THERE AND WHAT POWER THAT GENERATES.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH OUR ENGINEER ON THAT THOUGH.
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>> I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION AT AN ADA SPOT BECAUSE IT NEVER IS.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CASSATLY.
>> I'D LIKE TO REWORD THE QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER ASKED, IF YOU BUILD THE ONE STORY BUILDING, WOULD YOU HAVE TO RE-SUPPORT IT TO BUILD A SECOND FLOOR OR A THIRD FLOOR? I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET AT.
IS IT STRONG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A SECOND FLOOR WITHOUT DOING FURTHER WORK? WOULD THAT PHRASE YOUR QUESTION RIGHT?
>> I GUESS MY ANSWER, AND TRUST ME, I'M NOT TRYING TO AVOID THIS QUESTION.
>> MY ANSWER WOULD BE, THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE ARCHITECT WHO'S NOT HERE, OF COURSE, BUT IF I COULD ANSWER THAT ON HIS BEHALF, WE'VE HAD NO CONVERSATIONS WITH PAM OR MYSELF WITH THE ARCHITECT THAT THERE IS AN EXPANSION COMING IN THE FUTURE.
NOT SAYING NO TO THAT, THAT WOULD STILL REQUIRE THE SAME PROCESS, BUT EXACTLY HOW IT'S BUILT, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. ALSO, I FORGOT TO DISCLOSE AN EX PARTE, I SPOKE TO THE TOWN STAFF BECAUSE I HAD A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THE ABACOA WORKPLACE SUBDIVISION.
IT TOOK QUITE A WHILE TO GET THROUGH THAT, BUT I'M GLAD I DO UNDERSTAND IT, I THINK NOW.
I WILL SAY THAT WHEN I WAS THERE, THE FIRST TIME I WAS THERE WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 11:00 IN THE MORNING AND I DID PARK ON THE GRASS BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF SPACES ON THE PAVEMENT.
SECONDLY, I NOTICED THAT WHEN I PULLED OUT ON PIONEER WAY AND I'M DRIVING AN SUV, AND A SECOND TIME I WENT BY AN A REGULAR CAR, WHEN YOU LOOK TO THE SOUTH, WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO GET BUSIER NOW, PEOPLE ARE CUTTING THROUGH THERE.
I TAKE THAT SHORTCUT ALL THE TIME.
BUT NOW WITH EVERYONE COMING IN THE PIONEER WAY FROM THE SOUTH ON INNOVATION WAY, YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE TO THE SOUTH VERY WELL.
EVEN IN AN SUV THAT WAS ELEVATED.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING ON THAT SOUTH EAST CORNER, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT YOUR PROPERTY, TO TRY TO MAKE IT A BIT SAFER FOR AN EGRESS FOR A CAR.
>> RIGHT IN THIS LOCATION HERE THAT I'M CIRCLING? HOLD ON. SOUTH WEST CORNER?
>> YEAH. IF YOU'RE PULLING OUT IN THE SEDAN, THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE OVER THE HEDGE IN THE SIGN.
>> WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH STAFF.
>> IT WOULD BE THE VERY BOTTOM CORNER OF PIONEER DRIVE. SOUTH EAST CORNER THAT IS.
>> LOWER LEFT EDGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER VINSON.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> ACTUALLY, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
I JUST HAD ONE THAT I DIDN'T SEE THIS IN ANY PART OF THE APPLICATION.
YOU MADE A REFERENCE TO THERE ONLY BEING TWO SHIFTS.
>> I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE GRASS PARKING.
I WAS THERE AT THREE O'CLOCK ON MONDAY AFTERNOON.
I HATE WHEN PARKING CODE CREATES TOO MUCH PARKING THAT'S NEVER USED.
IF IT'S GOING TO BE UNUSED, I'D LIKE IT TO BE GRASS.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT APPLICATION OF THAT.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, I THINK I SAW THERE WAS A REFERENCE THAT 20% OF THE PARKING NEEDED TO BE ADA.
IS THAT A STATE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE? YEAH, 20%. BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE MORE THAN THREE QUARTERS OF THOSE ADA SPACES WERE NOT USED.
>> YEAH. WE'RE OBLIGATED BY STATE LAW TO PROVIDE THOSE AMOUNT OF SPACES.
IF THEY'RE NOT IN USE AND IF YOU DON'T NEED THAT PARKING SPACE, THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF STANDARD SPACES.
THAT'S THE PREDICAMENT WE FOUND OURSELVES IN.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE EXCESS.
>> THEN TWO OTHER QUICK QUESTIONS, ARE THERE ANY DISCHARGES VIA AMBULANCE?
>> YEAH. AT THE AT THE SOUTH END OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE.
>> I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, ARE THERE ANY SIRENS ACTIVATED BY AMBULANCES WHEN THEY ENTER OR LEAVE THE PROPERTY? NO?
>> THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY FOR THE PROPERTY, JUST IN GENERAL?
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TEN DAYS? OKAY. THOSE WERE MY COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.>> CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION?
>> WHEN I WAS THERE ONE TIME, ONE OF THE WORKERS BROUGHT OUT SOMEONE IN A WHEELCHAIR AND THEY WERE GOING AROUND THE PARKING LOT.
IS THERE ANY PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO OUT TO, IF YOU WILL? HE JUST SAT IN THE GRASS AREA OF THE PARKING LOT.
BUT I JUST THINK THERE MIGHT BE A NICE IDEA TO HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA WHERE THEY COULD TAKE PATIENTS TO TO GET A LITTLE SUN AND BE OUTSIDE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
WE DO HAVE A MOBILITY TRACK, WHICH WILL BE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING ALONG INNOVATION WAY.
THE GRAPHIC HAS SHADE ON IT, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT THAT WELL, BUT IT DOES HAVE A MOBILITY TRACK FOR THOSE PATIENTS.
>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC OR COMMENTS?
>> NO COMMENTS. ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION FROM THE COMMISSION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI.
>> WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A PROPOSAL MOTION?
>> THIS WOULD BE FOR THE SUBDISTRICT.
>> SURE. I'M SORRY. THERE'S TWO OF THEM.
THIS WOULD BE WITH REGARD TO THE SUBDISTRICT MASTER SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION CHANGES FOLLOWING THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> INCLUDING THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
VERY GOOD. THAT'S FROM COMMISSIONER CASSATLY. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> ANY OPPOSED? CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THEN ON TO THE APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE PAM HEALTH REHAB HOSPITAL'S INDIVIDUAL SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATIONS.
COULD I HAVE A MOTION ON THAT?
>> I MOVE WE APPROVE THE SITE PLAN SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RECOMMENDED BY THE P&Z STAFF.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI.
>> I HEARD COMMISSIONER KEENAN OVER HERE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? CARRIES WITH 7-0 VOTE.
SORRY. BECAUSE OF THE ABSTENTION, IT'S 6-0 WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM.
>> COMMISSIONER VINSON CAN JOIN US BACK ON THE DAIS.
>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ADMIRALS COVE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION.
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QUASI-JUDICIAL, ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES? STARTING ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN.>> I WALK THE AREA. I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROGOL.
>> NONE FOR ME EITHER. COMMISSIONER CASSATLY.
>> I LOOKED AT IT ON GOOGLE EARTH, AND I'M ALSO FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
>> THANK YOU. APPLICANT, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GIVE THE PRESENTATION.
>> THAT WAS LOUD. HI. MY NAME IS LAUREY HOOD.
I'M A LAND PLANER AT COTLEUR & HEARING.
THIS AFTERNOON, I'M GOING TO BE MAKING A PROPOSAL ON BEHALF OF THE CLUB A ADMIRALS COVE FOR A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'M GOING TO START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
AS I'M SURE, EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE PICKLEBALL CRAZE THAT HAS REALLY TAKEN OVER SOUTH FLORIDA AND HAS REALLY JUST CREATED AN UNPRECEDENTED DEMAND FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS BASICALLY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REGION.
OF COURSE, THE CLUB AND THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN PRETTY ADAMANTLY REQUESTING A SHADE STRUCTURE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THEIR LONG-TERM VISION FOR THE CLUB.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 12 EXISTING COURTS.
THEY ALSO DO HAVE A FORMAL APPROVAL LETTER FROM THE CAPTAINS WAY MPOA, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THEIR HOA, AND THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ISSUED.
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FOR THE LOCATION OF THE SITE, THIS IS BASICALLY A BROADER VIEW.WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS THE CLUB AT ADMIRALS COVE.
THE SITE PLAN THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON IS THAT LITTLE RED SQUARE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
OUR REQUEST IS A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.
WE WANT TO INSTALL A HIGH QUALITY SHADE STRUCTURE OVER FOUR EXISTING PICKLEBALL COURTS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT STRUCTURE WITHIN THAT GREEN DASH LINE.
THE LENGTH OF IT WOULD BE ABOUT 121 FEET AND EIGHT INCHES, THE WIDTH WOULD BE ABOUT 66 FEET AND 11 INCHES, AND THE HEIGHT WOULD BE 16 FEET.
THE TOTAL OF IT WOULD BE ABOUT 8,100 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DETAILED PICTURE.
THESE ARE OUR ENGINEERING DESIGNS TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER OF A LOOK AT IT FROM A SIDE VIEW AND A FRONT VIEW.
ESSENTIALLY, THE STRUCTURE WILL BE MADE OUT OF VERY HIGH QUALITY ALUMINUM.
IT'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN AIR STRUCTURE AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE A WHITE MESH OVERHANG.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE NO IMPACT TO DRAINAGE CIRCULATION, IMPERVIOUS PAVEMENTS, OR PERVIOUS SURFACES.
IT HAS AN EXTERNAL GUTTER SYSTEM ON THE SIDES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING PLANS, THAT WILL KEEP WATER AND RUNOFF FROM FLOODING ALL OF THE OTHER FEATURES.
OF COURSE, IT'S GOING TO BE WELL SCREENED IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING.
THERE ARE VERY MINIMAL CHANGES TO THE EXISTING SITE.
THE ONLY CHANGES THAT ARE MADE ARE STUFF THAT ABSOLUTELY HAD TO BE MADE, BUT IT WILL BE WELL SCREENED.
IT MEETS ALL OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
ON BEHALF OF THE CLUB AT ADMIRALS COVE AND OUR DESIGN TEAM, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION. AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS THATCHER HART, PLANNING & ZONING DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU JUST HEARD, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
IT IS AN 8,122 SQUARE FOOT SHADE STRUCTURE OVER FOUR EXISTING PICKLEBALL COURTS.
THOSE EXISTING PICKLEBALL COURTS WERE ORIGINALLY A TENNIS COURT THAT GOT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED TO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS IN ITS CURRENT STATE BACK IN 2023.
THEN DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE STRUCTURE IS OVER THAT 2,000 SQUARE FOOT LIMIT WITHIN THE CODE, IT'S REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S START ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN WITH QUESTIONS.
>> COMMISSIONER VINSON. SORRY. COMMISSIONER ROGOL.
DOES IT HAVE TO MEET HURRICANE STANDARDS AND IS THE SCREEN REMOVABLE? IF YOU HAVE HURRICANE COMING, ARE THERE PARTS OF IT THAT ARE REMOVABLE OR WHAT?
>> YES. THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN AN APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE, AND SO YES, IT DOES MEET ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS A FORMALITY TO GET THAT BUILDING STRUCTURE PERMIT.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CASSATLY.
>> MY CONCERNS ARE ABOUT THE HURRICANE.
JUST A QUESTION OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT'S THE MATERIAL MADE OUT OF? YOU SAID THERE'S A WHITE MESH ON THE SIDES.
>> FOR THE RECORD, ZACH CICIERA WITH COTLEUR & HEARING IN JUPITER.
IT'S A WHITE SATIN MESH MATERIAL ON THE TOP, AND THEN THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE IS ALUMINUM.
>> IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR ELECTRIFICATION UNDERNEATH IT FOR LIGHTING AT NIGHT?
>> THAT'S ALL BEEN APPROVED? MAYBE FANS OR SOMETHING, THAT ALSO WILL GO THROUGH PERMITTING PROCESS?
>> JUST LIGHTING, BUT IT'S COMPLIANT WITH ALL SHIELDING REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S ACTUALLY DIMMING THE LIGHT BECAUSE IT'S KEEPING IT UNDER THE SHADE STRUCTURE RATHER THAN TYPICAL COURT LIGHTING.
>> THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELSO.
>> I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I THINK PUTTING A COVER ON BOTH TENNIS OR PICKLEBALL COURTS IS A BRILLIANT IDEA IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
IF YOU PLAY OUTSIDE, YOU EITHER GET THE EARLY MORNING OR THE LATE EVENING BECAUSE IT'S SO BLOODY HOT.
BUT JUST A CURIOSITY QUESTION, WILL YOU HAVE FANS INSIDE AND LIGHTING INSIDE SINCE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT?
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THERE'S BEEN NO INDICATION THAT THERE WILL BE FANS.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE WILL HAVE LIGHTING. NO FANS.
>> BECAUSE WITH THE PICKLEBALL, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE INTERESTING DEPENDING ON HOW ROBUST THEY ARE.
THE WHITE MESH IS JUST ON THE TOP, NOT ON THE SIDE?
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GRABOWSKI.
THE WHITE MESH, IT DOESN'T DESCEND ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND, MAYBE A COUPLE OF FEET, AND IT'S LARGE FLOW AREA SCREEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> JUST OVER THE ROOF AND CAN BE REMOVED FOR THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE.
>> YOU MENTIONED THE RAINWATER ONE OFF WILL BE GUTTER DISCHARGED.
WHERE ARE THE GUTTERS GOING TO DISCHARGE?
>> INTO THE EXISTING STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM ON SITE.
IT'S BETWEEN THE TENNIS COURT AND THE STRUCTURE AND THEN BETWEEN THE OTHER PICKLEBALL COURTS TO THE SOUTH.
>> I AM SKEPTICAL ABOUT IN SOUTH FLORIDA WHETHER YOU'LL BE PUTTING FANS IN THERE IN ABOUT TWO YEARS.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
>> VERY GOOD. IF ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION HAS COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL START ON MY LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> NO QUESTIONS. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE REQUEST?
>> COMMISSIONER VINSON WITH A MOTION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
>> COMMISSIONER CASSATLY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
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>> AT THE JUNE 17TH COUNCIL MEETING, THE JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK UTILITY BUILDING SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
THEN AT THE JULY 15TH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, THE SMASH HQ SPECIAL EXCEPTION WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ALSO HELD FOCUS GROUPS TWO WEEKS AGO FOR THE CENTER STREET ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT THAT'S PROPOSED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY, AND FOR THE CENTER STREET NORTH ALTERNATE A1A REDEVELOPMENT, OVERLAY AREA MODIFICATIONS.
THAT'S A STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF THE COUNCIL.
IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE TURNOUT FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE HAD 30 PLUS ATTENDEES WITH A BUSINESS GROUP AND A RESIDENT GROUP.
OUR NEXT ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC WILL BE A WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 10TH HERE IN THE CHAMBERS FROM 6:00-8:00 PM WITH AN OPEN HOUSE IN THE HALLWAY AND THE COMMUNITY ROOM FOR THE HOUR PROCEEDING STARTING AT 5:00 PM.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUSH OUT INFORMATION ON THAT TO SEEK THAT INPUT.
YOU MAY RECALL, IT WAS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO THAT WE GAVE A PRESENTATION ON BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE THAT IS IN THE PROCESS.
>> 6:00-8:00 IS THE FORMAL WORKSHOP THAT'S FACILITATED.
THEN THE HOUR BEFORE THAT, FROM 5:00-6:00 PM, WE'LL HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE WITH POSTERS AND INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS ONE ON ONE WITH THE PUBLIC.
>> THIS IS A MEETING ABOUT WHAT AGAIN?
>> CENTER STREET ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FROM LOXAHATCHEE RIVER ROAD EAST TO DIXIE ALTERNATE A1A INTERSECTION, AS WELL AS THE ZONING REGULATIONS UPDATE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA FOR A1A NORTH OF INDIANTOWN ROAD, ESSENTIALLY, UP TO SAWFISH BAY PARK, AND THEN RUNNING DOWN CENTER STREET UP TO ROUGHLY WHERE TAYLOR & MODEEN FUNERAL HOME IS.
IT'S THE NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT THAT OVERLAY APPLIES TO.
>> HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY SPECIFICS, ANY SUGGESTIONS, OR ANYTHING?
>> IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, ACTUALLY, IF YOU GO TO THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, WE HAVE A WEB PAGE SETUP FOR THAT.
IT ACTUALLY INCLUDES THE POWERPOINT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU SAW.
AT THE END OF THE POWERPOINT ARE PAGES OF NOTES OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE PUBLIC MADE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TOWN STAFF? IF NOT, WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING.
>> MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
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>> WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.