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>> GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 PM,
[Call To Order]
AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER A TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF THURSDAY, AUGUST 7TH.WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
FOR ALL THOSE THAT ARE ABLE, PLEASE JOIN ME IN STANDING.
ALMIGHTY GOD, AS WE GATHER HERE TODAY IN SERVICE, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MAY OUR CHOICES REFLECT THE TRUST PLACED IN US BY OUR COMMUNITY, AND MAY YOU GUIDE OUR WORDS, OUR ACTIONS, AND OUR DECISIONS AS WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH INTEGRITY, PURPOSE, AND RESPECT. AMEN.
>> WE WILL NOW PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
>> MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
[1. Proclamation declaring August 2025 as Florida Water Professionals Month.]
>> WE BEGIN TONIGHT. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS BEFORE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
FIRST ONE IS A PROCLAMATION THAT I'LL BE PRESENTING TO AMANDA BARNES, OUR DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES.
I'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND COME DOWN THERE.
PROCLAIMING AUGUST 2025 AS FLORIDA WATER PROFESSIONALS MONTH.
WHEREAS WATER IS ONE OF FLORIDA'S MOST VITAL RESOURCES, ESSENTIAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, AND ECONOMIC GROWTH; AND WHEREAS THE DELIVERY OF CLEAN, SAFE, AND RELIABLE WATER, AS WELL AS THE EFFECTIVE TREATMENT OF WASTEWATER IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE DEDICATION AND EXPERTISE OF HIGHLY TRAINED WATER PROFESSIONALS; AND WHEREAS FLORIDA'S WATER PROFESSIONALS WORK AROUND THE CLOCK TO MANAGE WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES AND PROTECT WATER SOURCES AND ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH STRICT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STANDARDS; AND WHEREAS THESE PROFESSIONALS PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN SAFEGUARDING OUR COMMUNITIES, SUPPORTING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROMOTING SUSTAINABLE WATER PRACTICES ACROSS THE STATE; AND WHEREAS THE FLORIDA SECTION OF THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION HAS DESIGNATED THE MONTH OF AUGUST AS FLORIDA WATER PROFESSIONALS MONTH TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR THEIR SERVICE AND COMMITMENT; AND WHEREAS THERE ARE SEVERAL NON-PROFIT PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS IN FLORIDA THAT PROMOTE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF FLORIDA'S WATER UTILITY INDUSTRY THROUGH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF FLORIDA CITIZENS AND TO PRESERVE THE STATE'S WATER RESOURCES; AND WHEREAS THOSE ORGANIZATIONS RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES AND ADMINISTRATIVE CODE THAT REGULATE THE WATER INDUSTRY AND OFTENTIMES ACT AS LIAISONS BETWEEN THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND INDUSTRY PERSONNEL; AND WHEREAS THIS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZES ALL PEOPLE WHO PLAY A SUFFICIENT SIGNIFICANT PART IN OPERATING AND MAINTAINING DRINKING WATER, WASTEWATER, AND STORM WATER SYSTEMS IN FLORIDA BY CELEBRATING FLORIDA WATER PROFESSIONALS MONTH, WHICH APPLAUDS THEIR CONSTANT EFFORTS TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, JIM KURETSKI, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST 2025 AS FLORIDA WATER PROFESSIONALS MONTH IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK THE WATER PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK DILIGENTLY EVERY DAY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SAFE, CLEAN, RELIABLE, AND SUSTAINABLE WATER FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.
IN WITNESS, WHEREOF, I HAVE HERE ON TWO SET MY HAND AND SEAL THE SEVENTH DAY OF AUGUST 2025.
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[LAUGHTER].>> MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION.
WE DON'T TAKE LIGHTLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE SAFE AND RELIABLE DRINKING WATER AND STORMWATER SYSTEMS. MY STAFF WORKS VERY HARD AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THEM.
>> WE ARE TOO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY OUR JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT,
[2. Jupiter Police Department Status Update.]
A STATUS UPDATE, AND OUR CHIEF.MICHAEL BARBERA, CHIEF OF POLICE.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A STATUS UPDATE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS GOING OVER STAFFING, CRIME TRENDS, AND CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND RESPONSE.
BUT BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
IT'S REALLY GREAT FEELING AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, SEEING ALL THOSE KIDS AND FAMILIES HOLDING SIGNS.
THE SUPPORT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY, IT'S PHENOMENAL.
BUT ALSO, I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU BECAUSE EVERY COUNCIL PERSON SHOWED UP, RODE WITH ONE OF US, AND HAVING THE SUPPORT FROM YOU IS INCREDIBLE, SO THANK YOU.
BUT THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THERE WERE SO MANY MEMBERS OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWN THAT WERE ALSO HERE.
TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT, NOT ONLY WITHIN THE TOWN DEPARTMENT COUNCIL, AND THEN SEEING ALL THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE ON A ROAD WAVING THE SIGNS AND SAYING THANK YOU.
I DID HAVE TO TELL FRANK TO SHARE SOME WITH THE KIDS, AND HE DID, HE LISTENED, SO WE GOT TO THROW SOME CANDY OUT THE WINDOW.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. THANK YOU.
WE'RE ALLOCATED AT 121 ALLOCATED POSITIONS.
ON TUESDAY, WE SWORN SIX NEW OFFICERS.
THEY JUST STARTED THEIR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 116 POSITIONS ARE FILLED.
TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE CURRENTLY PROCESSING.
WE PLAN ON STAFFING THEM OR GETTING THEM HIRED SOMETIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 116.
I WANT TO GO OVER RESPONSE TIMES BECAUSE THIS IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FOR JUPITER COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
RESPONSE TIMES ARE WHAT WE CALL PRIORITY P CALLS, AND THOSE ARE PRIORITY 1 CALLS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN A 911 CALL BECAUSE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, PEOPLE CALL 911 WHEN IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY.
ACTUALLY, PEOPLE CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER WHEN IT IS AN EMERGENCY.
BUT THE DISPATCHER MAKES A DETERMINATION RIGHT THEN IN THERE IF IT'S A PRIORITY 1 CALL.
IN JANUARY TO JUNE OF '24, THAT RESPONSE TIME, WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL HELLO TO HELLO, MEANING HELLO ON THE PHONE TO THE OFFICER SHOWING UP, HELLO, I'M HERE TO HELP YOU.
FROM JANUARY TO JUNE '24, IT WAS FIVE MINUTES AND 12 SECONDS, AND THEN YEAR TO DATE '25, THAT WENT DOWN TO FOUR MINUTES AND 33 SECONDS.
KEEPING IN MIND THE AVERAGE CALL, WHEN YOU DO CALL THE COMO OR 911, IT'S A 51-SECOND AVERAGE FROM THE TIME THE DISPATCHER PICKS UP TO WHEN THEY DISPATCH THAT CALL.
THAT TIME RIGHT THERE AT THE RESPONSE TIME, IF YOU MINUS 51 SECONDS, THAT IS OUR RESPONSE TO THE CALL AVERAGE.
THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE IN MY MIND.
FINANCIAL CRIMES. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IN MY PRESENTATION BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE THE EVER-INCREASING CRIME TREND AS YOU GET ON THE INTERNET OR TV.
IT'S CONSTANT. I'M SURE YOU'RE GETTING THE TEXT MESSAGES, EMAILS, EVERYBODY TRYING TO SCAM YOU OUT OF SOMETHING.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, IT'S COUNTERFEITING, EMBEZZLEMENT, EXTORTION, CREDIT CARD, FRAUD BY FALSE PRETENSE, IDENTITY THEFT, ETC.
THE REASON I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS THIS JUST ISN'T A NORMAL CALL FOR SERVICE WHERE AN OFFICER CAN SHOW UP AND HELP SOMEBODY AND BE DONE IN FIVE OR 10 MINUTES, THIS USUALLY TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT OF THE OFFICER TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHERE THE SCAM IS COMING FROM,
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WHETHER IT'S A PHONE NUMBER, AN IP ADDRESS, EMAIL ADDRESS.THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY CAN.
USUALLY, A REPORT IS WRITTEN AND THEN THAT GOES THROUGH TO OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, AND THOSE DETECTIVES END UP DOING MULTIPLE SUBPOENAS, SEARCH WARRANTS ON BANK RECORDS, THE LIST GOES ON.
THESE CASES CAN TAKE MONTHS, I'VE SEEN SOME OVER A YEAR.
AS YOU LOOK, IT'S INCREASED STEADILY SINCE '24 UP TO 111.
WELL, LIKE I SAID, EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN LITTLE NICHE OF BEING COMPLICATED, AND WE HAVE TO SORT THAT OUT.
WHAT WE'VE DONE, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH AN EVER-GROWING PROBLEM, WE'VE REALLY MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO TELL THE PUBLIC IN JUPITER HOW NOT TO BECOME A FRAUD VICTIM.
WE STARTED BY PLACING FLIERS ON BITCOIN ATMS, WHICH SEEMED TO BE A TREND.
FOR SOME REASON, PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY CAN PAY THEIR WATER BILL OR THEIR SUN PASS VIOLATION USING BITCOIN ON ATM.
COMMUNITY PRESENTATIONS IN EVENTS, WE GO OUT TO EVERY COMMUNITY EVENT WE CAN AND TALK ABOUT FRAUD PREVENTION.
SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, WHEN THE BI-MONTHLY JPD NEWSLETTER, WE'RE PUTTING FRAUD INFORMATION ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, ANYTIME YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE A VICTIM, OR SOMETHING JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT, ON OUR WEBSITE, WE DO HAVE A BE SCAM SMART PAGE.
I WELCOME PEOPLE TO CHECK THAT OUT.
WE DO HAVE A VIDEO THAT FORMER OFFICER CANONICO MADE ABOUT A LOT OF THE SCAMS, HOW NOT TO FALL VICTIM TO THEM.
THAT'S ON OUR URL, BUT YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND GO TO THAT PAGE, BE SCAM SMART.
FINALLY, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW. PERSONS OFFENSES.
IT'S OUR PERSONAL SAFETY, SO THERE'S ALWAYS CATCH OUR ATTENTION ABOUT PERSONS CRIMES.
THOSE INCLUDE ASSAULT OFFENSES, WHICH ARE DOMESTIC ASSAULT OR BATTERIES, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, SIMPLE ASSAULTS, INTIMIDATIONS, HOMICIDES, AND THE LIST GOES ON.
YEAR TO DATE, '24-'25, WE ARE EXACTLY AT 202.
BUT IF YOU LOOK, I HIGHLIGHTED DOWN THE BOTTOM, IN 2022, WE WERE AT 231, 2023, YEAR TO DATE, 221.
IT'S STEADILY DECREASING, WHICH IS GOOD TO HEAR.
I'M HOPING AS TIME GOES ON, IT WILL CONTINUE TO DECREASE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, PERSONS OFFENSES ARE VERY PERSONAL AND INCLUDES OUR SAFETY.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE UPDATE.
JUST SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, NOW THAT WE SWORE THOSE SIX PEOPLE IN, WE ARE 95% FULLY STAFFED.
FRAUD INVESTIGATIONS ARE BECOMING INCREASINGLY MORE COMPLEX AND VERY, VERY TIME-CONSUMING FOR THE OFFICER AND DETECTIVE.
FINALLY, TO TRY TO SUM IT UP, I THINK AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE, WE ARE VERY, VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH A SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY AND TOWN COUNCIL, AND SUPPORT STAFF FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND WE'RE VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE TO HAVE EVERYONE SUPPORT.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT TO THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
I WILL OPEN UP. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE ONE. WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THE DECREASE IN CALL TIME TO?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THAT OUR DISTRICT CONFIGURATION.
WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY THREE DISTRICTS, NORTH 1, 2, AND 3, NORTH, SOUTH, AND THE EAST SIDE.
I THINK THE OFFICERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE COGNIZANT ABOUT POSITIONING THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF CONGREGATING IN ONE END OF THE DISTRICT.
IT'S JUST A COMMUNICATION PIECE WITH SUPERVISORS AND OFFICERS.
I THINK IT DECREASES THE TIME.
WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE TO THE DECREASE IN PERSONAL OFFENSES OVER THE LAST 3, 4 YEARS?
>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I HAD LUNCH WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF LAST MONTH AND I TALKED TO THE DISTRICT COMMANDER FOR NORTH AND PALM BEACH COUNTY PBS.
WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE ALL PART 1 CRIMES, WHICH ARE YOUR PERSONS CRIMES, MOTOR VEHICLES, BURGLARIES, THEFT, RIGHT NOW, AS OF 2024, THIS WHOLE AREA IS DOWN AN AVERAGE OF 20% IN PART 1 CRIME.
FRAUDS ARE INCREASING, AND FRAUDS ARE BECOMING A LOT MORE COMPLEX, SO IT'S TAKING A LOT OF OUR TIME AND ENERGY.
INSTEAD OF RESPONDING TO THESE PERSONS CRIMES LIKE THE ARMED ROBBERIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING MORE RESOURCES AND TIME INTO THE FRAUD-TYPE INVESTIGATIONS.
IT'S JUST NOT THIS JUPITER, IT'S ACTUALLY THIS AREA FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY AND MARTIN COUNTY THAT WE STATISTICALLY CAN SEE THIS PART 1 CRIMES ARE DOWN 20%.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE LICENSE PLATE READERS, CAMERAS ON PEOPLE'S HOMES, EVERYBODY HAVING A PHONE OUT VIDEOING, PLUS THE COMMUNICATION PIECE WITH ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER SYNERGISTICALLY AS TASK FORCES AND SHARING ALL THAT INTELLIGENCE.
I THINK TECHNOLOGY HAS REALLY DRIVEN THAT CRIME TO GO DOWN.
>> JUST CURIOUS FOR YOUR OPINION ON THIS, I HAVE A HYPOTHESIS.
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BUT THE PERSON OFFENSES, I THINK, CAN AND ARE AFFECTED BY THE REPUTATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY WITH SOMETHING, OR THE COMMUNITY.
BUT THE FRAUD ONES, ALMOST NO NEW BOUNDARIES, SO REPUTATION REALLY DOESN'T MATTER, AND IT CAN BE COMING FROM ANYWHERE.
IS THAT REALLY WHAT THE DATA SHOWS?
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT, JUPITER IS KNOWN AS A PREMIER AGENCY IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, AND I PERSONALLY, I KNOW I'M BIASED, BUT I THINK WE'RE ONE OF THE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SEEING HOW WE DO THINGS COMPARED TO A LOT OF OTHER PLACES AND A LOT OF OUR SUCCESS RATES.
I DO AGREE WITH YOU WITH THE PERSONS CRIMES.
WHETHER SOMEONE'S GOING TO COME FROM DOWN SOUTH OR UP NORTH AND COME TO JUPITER TO COMMIT A CRIME, THEY KNOW BASED ON OUR REPUTATION, WE'RE MORE LIKELY GOING TO GET CAUGHT.
THE FRAUDS, THEY EXPAND INTERNATIONALLY.
REPUTATION WON'T CARRY OVER THE INTERNET LIKE THAT.
WE DO SEE THEM AS FAR AS, WHETHER IT BE NIGERIA, CHINA, RUSSIA, WE'RE SEEING THOSE TYPE OF SCAMS THAT FAR AWAY.
WE TRY TO WORK WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS ON THOSE. YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
>> I THINK WE ALL SEE THOSE SCAMS BECAUSE WE ALL GET THEM.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES MY LICENSE WAS GOING TO BE REVOKED FOR MISSING SOME PAYMENT.
>> BUT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE AND I KNOW THAT OVER TIME, OUR POLICE HAVE MOVED INTO DOING MORE OF THE FRAUD TYPE WORK, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE VICTIMS TO KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WILL AT LEAST LOOK INTO IT AND TRY TO HELP.
COULD YOU ALSO SPEAK TO, THIS IS I THINK THE BIGGEST THING OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT POLICING THAT I THINK I TRY TO SHARE TO THE COMMUNITY IS POLICE CAN ONLY GO SO FAR, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE ONES THAT DO THE PROSECUTION, SO DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?
>> IT'S A PHASED PROCESS, SO WE MAKE AN ARREST BASED ON PROBABLE CAUSE AND THEN WHEN WE MAKE THAT ARREST AND A PERSON GOES TO JAIL, WE FILE WHAT'S CALLED FILING, WE FILE THAT PAPERWORK, THAT PROBABLE CAUSE WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REVIEWS THAT AND THEY DETERMINE WHAT THEY SAY IS TO PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, WHETHER THEY WILL ACTUALLY FILE THOSE CHARGES AND TAKE IT TO COURT.
IT'S A PHASED PROCESS, WE HAVE OUR POSITION OF THE PROBABLE CAUSE.
STATE ATTORNEY DECIDES WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY FILE OR GO TO COURT OR MAKE A PLEA AGREEMENT.
>> BOTTOM LINE, THEN POLICE CAN ONLY GO SO FAR AND THEN IT GETS HANDED OFF, WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE PROSECUTED.
>> EXACTLY. MANY TIMES WE'LL MAKE AN ARREST, THEY'LL GO TO THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR FILING, AND THEY'LL DECIDE EITHER TO NOT FILE THE CHARGES OR MAKE A PLEA AGREEMENT OR TAKE IT TO COURT.
>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE NEW STAFF THAT WAS SWORN IN THE OTHER DAY.
>> BUT FOUR OF THEM, THROUGH THE CERTIFICATION PROGRAM THAT THE TOWN OFFERS?
>> TELL ME HOW YOU CHOSE THOSE FOLKS TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.
>> THERE WAS FOUR THAT WE SWORN YESTERDAY THAT WE PUT THROUGH THE POLICE ACADEMY AND SO THERE'S TWO TYPES, WE WILL OPEN UP HIRING FOR NON CERTIFIED.
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE POLICE ACADEMY YET, YOU'RE NOT CERTIFIED, OR WE WILL OPEN UP A PROCESS FOR ONLY CERTIFIED OFFICERS, AND THAT MEANS YOU'RE ALREADY CERTIFIED, MAYBE YOU WORK FOR ANOTHER AGENCY, OR YOU WENT TO THE POLICE ACADEMY, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A JOB.
LAST YEAR, WE OPENED UP POSITIONS FOR NON CERTIFIED AND SO PEOPLE PUT IN THEIR APPLICATIONS, THEIR RESUMES.
THEY ARE REVIEWED, AND THEN THE RECRUITER AND THE TRAINING TEAM WILL DECIDE WHICH ONES ARE THE BEST TO BE INTERVIEWED.
THEY GO THROUGH AN ORAL BOARD PANEL.
THEY'RE ASKED A SERIES NUMBERS OF QUESTIONS, LOTS OR SCENARIO BASED, LOT INTEGRITY BASED QUESTIONS, AND THEN THEY DECIDE WHICH ONES OUT OF THAT POOL THEY'RE GOING TO SPONSOR, SO WE ACTUALLY HIRE THEM AS A NON CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICER.
WE SEND THEM TO THE POLICE ACADEMY, AND WE MONITOR THEIR PROGRESS THROUGHOUT, AND ONCE THEY GRADUATE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THEY SAW ON TUESDAY, WE SWEAR THEM IN AND THEY'RE PROUDLY POLICE OFFICERS.
>> THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
>> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A GOODNIGHT.
>> MOVING ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
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THIS IS A TIME FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS, AND THE COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IS ASKED TO STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PRIOR TO ADDRESSING TOWN COUNCIL.
WE GENERALLY DON'T DISCUSS THE ITEMS, WE REFIRM THE STAFF FOR FOLLOW UP AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?
>> YES, SIR. WE HAVE TWO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
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STEAN ERICSON, FOLLOWED BY WILLIE PUZZ.>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, STEAN ERICSON 3713, SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE.
I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY A FEW OF THE SERVICES THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE IS CURRENTLY PROVIDING.
THERE WAS SOME MISTAKES FOR MISINFORMATION LAST TIME.
AFTER THE PRESENTATION ON JUPITER FIRE DEPARTMENT THE JULY 15 MEETING, COUNCILOR CHOY ASKED WHAT SERVICES WILL BE ENHANCED WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN DEPARTMENT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE NOW.
THE THING IS, PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE HAS BEEN PROVIDING WHOLE BLOOD ADMINISTRATION IN JUPITER SINCE 2022.
IN JULY OF 2022, PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE WAS THE ONLY DEPARTMENT OF PALM BEACH COUNTY AND ONE OF THE FEW IN FLORIDA TO PROVIDE WHOLE BLOOD ADMINISTRATION TO PATIENTS IN THE FIELD.
WE ROLLED OUT OUR PROGRAM IN NORTH COUNTY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO JUPITER'S RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
TODAY, ALL 10 OF OUR EMS CAPTAINS CARRY PLASMA AND SIX OF THOSE CARRY WHOLE BLOOD AND PLASMA, WHICH IT'S A VERY BENEFICIAL THING FOR THE PATIENTS.
BOTH HEALTHCARE DISTRICT HELICOPTERS THAT ARE STAFF WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE FLIGHT MEDICS ALSO CARRY WHOLE BLOOD AND PLASMA.
THE EMS CAPTAIN IN STATION 19 HERE IN CENTRAL BOULEVARD IN JUPITER HAS ADMINISTERED THE WHOLE BLOOD TO 11 PATIENTS IN JUPITER.
OF THE SEVEN PATIENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED OUTCOME REPORTS FOR, FIVE OF THOSE SURVIVED.
CONSIDERING THE CRITICAL CONDITION OF THOSE PATIENTS, THEY LIKELY WOULD NOT HAVE SURVIVED WITHOUT THE WHOLE BLOOD.
EVERY YEAR, PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE PRODUCES AN ANNUAL REPORT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THESE ARE PRESENTED TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR GIVEN TO THE TOWN MANAGER FOR DISSEMINATION.
IN THE END REPORT FOR 2022, WHOLE BLOOD IS DISCUSSED ON PAGE 13.
IN 2023 REPORT, PAGE 23 EXPLAINS THAT OUR WHOLE BLOOD PROGRAM WON AN AWARD FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND WE PUBLISHED A PAPER ABOUT THE BENEFITS AND THE OUTCOMES OF WHOLE BLOOD ADMINISTRATION AND IS IN THE NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE.
OUR WHOLE BLOOD PROGRAM IS MENTIONED AGAIN ON PAGE 24.
THERE'S A WEALTH OF INFORMATION IN THESE ANNUAL REPORTS THAT WE PRODUCE FOR JUST THE TOWN OF JUPITER, AND MOST OF IT IS PERTAINED TO THE EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER RESIDENTS.
I HOPE THAT YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THOSE AND REVIEW THOSE, AND IF YOU HAVE NOT, ESPECIALLY TO THE NEWER MEMBERS, I WILL GLADLY PROVIDE ANY OR ALL OF THESE IF YOU WOULD LIKE THESE.
MR. KITTRO KNOWS HOW TO GET HOLD OF ME IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT AT LEAST NOW IS CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, AND THAT'S ALL IN THESE REPORTS HERE.
MR. MAYOR, YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT IF YOU WERE NOT CREATING YOUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, TRAFFIC SIGNAL PREEMPTION WOULD NOT HAPPEN IN JUPITER.
THE THING IS, WE HAVE TRAFFIC PREEMPTION LIVE RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE FOR TWO YEARS IN A PROGRAM WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT WAS INITIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE US ONE BRIDGE.
IT CONTROLS US ONE, ALTERNATE A 1A, INDIANTOWN ROAD, AND SOME OF THE AREAS SURROUNDING TEQUESTA.
ADDITIONALLY, EVERY UNIT THAT RESPONDS IN JUPITER OUT OF STATIONS 11, 15, 16, 18, AND 19, ALREADY HAVE THE MODULES FOR TRAFFIC PREEMPTION INSTALLED IN THEM THAT WE ARE PREPARING, CAN I GO? JUST A FEW MORE SECONDS. FOR A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE PREPARING TO TAKE LIVE THAT WOULD HAVE INCLUDED THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES TOWN.
THIS IS THE SAME PROGRAM THAT HAS 16 UNITS WITH TRAFFIC PREEMPTION AND BATTALION TWO HELPING TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH THE NORTH-LAKE BOULEVARD AND B LINE HIGHWAY.
TO SAY THAT TRAFFIC PREEMPTION IN JUPITER WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE WITH THE CREATION OF JUPITER FIRE DEPARTMENT IS JUST NOT CORRECT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE ANYWAY SO JUST LET YOU KNOW.
LET ME THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR LISTENING.
LET ME CLARIFY THOSE THINGS. THANK YOU.
>> BY THE WAY, FOR THE RECORD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND I READ THOSE REPORTS.
THANK YOU. OBVIOUSLY, NEWER MEMBERS WOULDN'T.
WHAT I REFERRED TO CLEARLY ON TRAFFIC PREEMPTION IS ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THE FACT THAT BECAUSE WE'RE IN FACT PAYING THROUGH THE COUNTY TO GET TRAFFIC SIGNALS SO WE CAN MOVE UP TRAFFIC PREEMPTION.
I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO EVENTUALLY GET IT, BUT THEY'RE DOING BY REGIONS AND I'M NOT DEBATING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY FOR THE RECORDS SO YOU UNDERSTOOD.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT INDIANTOWN ROAD, WHICH IS THE MOST CONGESTED AREA THAT RESIDENTS YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT. THANK YOU.
>> JUST TO REITERATE, MR. MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE REPORT.
>> WE'LL GET THEM TO THEM. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCILORS AND TOWN MANAGER.
MY NAME IS WILLIE PUZZ AND I LIVE AT 6121 UNGER STREET.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.
I HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
THE FIRST ONE IS TO REINFORCE WHAT AN OUTSTANDING JOB YOUR SUMMER CAMP TEAM DOES.
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OUR SON HAS BEEN A CAMPER FOR MANY YEARS AND HAS HAD THE GREATEST EXPERIENCES.THE PLANNED ACTIVITIES, THE DEVELOPED RELATIONSHIPS, THERE THAT THE CAMP TEAM GIVES TO THE CAMPERS, I FEEL IS SECOND TO NONE.
I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE STAFF AND COUNCILORS WHO HAD THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON OUR SON THROUGH THE YEARS.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE A THANK YOU TO MR. NED, MR. AUSTIN, MR. BRYSON, MISS CRYSTAL, MR. DAN, MISS KATIE, MR. LONDON, AND MISS SCHUYLER.
NOW THERE ARE SO MANY OTHERS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO RECOGNIZE, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAD THE DIRECT IMPACT ON OUR SON.
WHILE OUR SON IS AGING OUT OF THE TOWN CAMP EXPERIENCE, AND HE HAS SAID, IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF I COULD HAVE ANOTHER YEAR.
HE STILL HAS THE MEMORIES THAT HE IS GOING TO STICK WITH HIM FOR A LIFETIME.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS TWO FOLD, AND IT RELATES TO EMAILS THAT I'VE SENT TO SOME OF YOU ABOUT TWO COMMUNITY ISSUES THAT I UNFORTUNATELY HAVEN'T RECEIVED A REPLY BACK ON.
THE FIRST ONE IS TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR ATTENDING THE COUNTY'S COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN KICKOFF MEETING.
HE MADE COMMENTS AT THIS MEETING THAT HE WAS READY TO ROLL UP HIS SHIRT SLEEVES PERSONALLY, SO THE TOWN DOES THIS PART TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THE CONTRACTOR IN THE DISCOVERY PHASE.
MY EMAIL WAS ASKING IF WE COULD ASK THE COUNTY'S CONSULTANT TO ATTEND A COUNCIL MEETING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND SHOW TOWN RESIDENTS THAT JUPITER IS SERIOUS ABOUT ADDRESSING ITS TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
THIS WOULD ALSO REINFORCE THAT RESIDENT INPUT IS IMPORTANT TO THE PROCESS, WHICH WE HEARD DURING THAT MEETING.
THE SECOND IS TO FOLLOW UP ON THE E-BIKE ISSUE.
THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY IS HOSTING AN E-BIKE AND MICRO MOBILITY SAFETY WORKSHOP IN SEPTEMBER.
MY EMAIL ASKED IF A COUNCILOR OR A TOWN REPRESENTATIVE WAS GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS IMPORTANT COUNTY WIDE TOPIC.
WE HAD THE E-BIKE ISSUE, TOWN HALL A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND THAT WAS VERY PROMISING.
BUT THIS E-BIKE ISSUE IS STILL A TOPIC ON SOCIAL MEDIA TODAY.
I JUST FEEL THE TOWN PARTICIPATION IN THIS WORKSHOP IS IMPORTANT AND VITAL FOR OUR TOWN. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEFORE US THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 15 MEETING.
[3. July 15, 2025, Town Council Meeting Minutes]
I DON'T SEE ANY CORRECTIONS ON THE DIAS IF THERE ARE NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED.>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THIS IS ITEMS FOUR THROUGH 12 ON THE AGENDA.WAS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISHED TO PULL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?
>> YES, SIR. MR. CRAIG MAURY WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM FOUR, AND MR. WILLIE PUZZ WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NINE.
>> ANY MEMBER OF THE DIAS WISH TO PULL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?
>> YES. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 12.
>> I HAD WANTED TO PULL FOUR AND NINE AS WELL.
>> I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON APPROVING THE AMENDED AGENDA, WHICH WOULD CONSIST OF 5,6,7,8,10, AND 11.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING BACK TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR,
[4. Ordinance 13-25, 2nd Reading, Amending Chapter 20, Article V, of the Town’s Municipal Code pertaining to Backflow Prevention and Cross-Connection Control of the Town’s Water System.]
PULLED BY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL SUNDSTROM.TURNING TO THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
DID YOU WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS OR I DID RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CRAIG MAURY, 230 BLOCK AILES LANE HERE IN JUPITER.
LET ME START BY SAYING I AM IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT.
I'M GLAD TO SEE IT HAPPENING, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS SOME FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD CHANGES.
I EMAILED ALL OF YOU AND STAFF, AND I HOPE I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, I DON'T CARE TO ADDRESS THOSE.
I WANT TO ADDRESS HERE THE TESTING ASPECT.
THE HOMEOWNERS WHERE I LIVE IN SONO MILES HAVE USED AT LEAST SIX DIFFERENT PLUMBING COMPANIES TO TEST THE BACKFLOW PREVENTERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE, ONE TOLD THE HOMEOWNER THE TEST HAD FAILED AND WANTED $500 TO REPAIR IT.
THE HOMEOWNER DID A SECOND TEST WITH ANOTHER COMPANY AND IT PASSED.
WAS ANOTHER HOME OWNER HAD A TEST DONE, WAS TOLD IT FAILED, AND THEY ACTUALLY PAID $1,775 TO HAVE THE BACKFLOW PREVENTER FIXED.
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THE HOMEOWNER DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER THEY DO NOW.THESE FAIL THEN PASS SCENARIOS SUGGEST THAT EITHER THE TESTING PROTOCOL IS FLAWED, IF COMPANIES CAN GET SUCH DIFFERENT RESULTS OR THE PLUMBING COMPANY OR SOMEONE AT THE PLUMBING COMPANIES, I'LL JUST SAY UNSCRUPULOUS AND PERHAPS SHOULD NO LONGER BE CERTIFIED.
ONE QUESTION THAT ROSE TO ME WAS, HOW DOES A RESIDENT FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A SPECIFIC PLUMBER OR PLUMBING COMPANY FOR HAVING BEEN TOLD THAT THEIR BACKFLOW PREVENTER FAILS, AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE SAYS IT PASSES? I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN ANSWER, BUT THAT'S ONE QUESTION.
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I'VE LIVED IN JUPITER NOW FOR SIX YEARS NEXT MONTH.
IN THOSE SIX YEARS HERE, WE HAVE RECEIVED EXACTLY ONE NOTICE TO TEST OUR BACKFLOW PREVENTER AND IT WAS A PINK ONE SAYING, YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED TWO THIS IS YOUR LAST ONE.
WE NEVER GOT THE FIRST TWO, WE GOT IT TESTED 15 DAYS TO TEST IT OR LOSE THE WATER, WE GOT IT DONE.
WITH THIS, I HEARD LAST TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WERE 31,300 SERVICE CONNECTIONS AND THAT IMPLIES TO ME 50-75, 000 NOTIFICATIONS PER YEAR GOING OUT BY THE WATER PURVEYOR.
I'LL BE REAL INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT WATER PURVEYOR IS GOING TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS NEW 90, 60, 30 DAY REQUIREMENT.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS AMENDMENT SAYS IT'S EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SHARE ONE ITEM THEN I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM, TO COMMENT, AND THEN I THINK OUR DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES WAS GOING TO RESPOND.
BUT JUST IN CASE OTHERS DON'T THINK TO SAY THIS.
IN THE WEEKLY TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT, THERE WAS AN ATTACHMENT 2 THAT WAS PROVIDED BECAUSE I HAD ASKED FOR THIS INFORMATION.
IT WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IT TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BACKFLOW DEVICES AND WHAT THE HISTORICAL RATE HAS BEEN.
I THINK OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT IT'S A SMALL SUBSET OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY THOSE THAT HAVE THE RISK OF HAVING SOMETHING ELSE INTERCONNECTED WITH THEIR SYSTEM.
TO THE DEGREE, YOU FOLLOW UP ON EVERYTHING, TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT, ATTACHMENT 2 WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.
>> I HAD JUST ONE QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP AND I'LL ASK OUR DIRECTOR OF THE UTILITY TO COME FORWARD.
BUT WE HAD SPOKEN, MR. MAURY ABOUT THE ISSUE OF 15 DAYS.
THE NOTICE OF 90, 60, 30 DAYS IS NOT FOR IF IT FAILS TO REMEDY IT.
IT'S JUST TO GO THROUGH THE RECERTIFICATION TO IDENTIFY IF IT DOES PASS OR FAIL.
THE 90, 60, 30 IS TO DETERMINE IF IT'S PASS OR FAIL.
IF IT DOES FAIL, IT SAYS, THEN ON PAGE 6 THAT THERE ARE 15 DAYS TO REMEDY IT.
THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT SUFFICIENT TIME? I HAD THOUGHT WHEN I READ THE ORDINANCE AT FIRST THAT IF I GET A NOTICE AT 90 DAYS, I'D IMMEDIATELY START TO WORK TOWARDS IDENTIFYING PASS, FAIL AND REMEDYING THAT.
BUT YOU'VE GOT DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU START TO RESPOND TO THOSE NOTICES, POTENTIALLY ONLY 15 DAYS TO REMEDY IT, IS THAT CORRECT FIRST OF ALL AND IS THAT SUFFICIENT?
>> THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
IF YOU ARE DUE FOR TESTING, I'M NOT GOING TO PICK A MONTH BECAUSE I'LL DO THE MATH WRONG IN MY HEAD, BUT YOU'RE DUE FOR TESTING, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NOTICE 90 DAYS, 60 DAYS, AND 30 DAYS PRIOR TO YOUR DUE DATE.
YOU IN ESSENCE, HAVE 90 DAYS TO GET YOUR BACKFLOW DEVICE TESTED AND RECERTIFIED.
IF BY YOUR DEADLINE, YOU HAVEN'T REPORTED THE RESULTS, THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER 15 DAYS TO DO IT.
IN ESSENCE, YOU HAD WHAT? 90 + 15, YOU HAD 105 DAYS TO DO THAT.
IF AFTER THAT 105 DAYS YOU HAVEN'T, THEN WITH THE DISCRETION OF THE TOWN MANAGER, WE CAN INTERRUPT WATER SERVICE.
IN THE INSTANCE WHERE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A CROSS CONNECTION.
ONE OF MR. MAURY'S QUESTIONS IN HIS EMAIL WAS RELATED TO SITE INSPECTIONS BY TOWN STAFF.
THIS ORDINANCE UNDER NO SCENARIO, ARE WE JUST GOING TO GO DOOR TO DOOR AND INSPECT EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY. THAT'S NOT THE INTENT.
THE INTENT IS IF WE SUSPECT A CROSS CONNECTION EXISTS, AND THE MOST LIKELY WAY THAT WE WOULD DO THAT WOULD BE IF
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OUR METERS ARE REGISTERING FLOW BACKWARDS THROUGH THEM, THEN WE WOULD GO INSPECT THE PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT A CROSS CONNECTION.IF THERE IS A CROSS CONNECTION, WE'RE REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE TO SEVER IT IMMEDIATELY AND TO NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE AMENDED ORDINANCE SAYS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE 15 DAYS TO RECTIFY IT EITHER BY PUTTING AN APPROPRIATE BACKFLOW DEVICE OR MAKING SURE THAT THE CROSS CONNECTION IS COMPLETELY GONE, WHATEVER THE INSTANCE WAS.
ONE, IF IT'S JUST REGULAR TESTING, YOU HAVE, IN ESSENCE, 105 DAYS TO GET IT DONE, AND UNLESS YOU HAVE A VIOLATION WHERE YOU HAVE A CROSS CONNECTION, YOU'LL HAVE 15 DAYS.
WE HAVE NEVER HAD A PLUMBER REPORT TO US, LONG LEAD TIMES ON BACKFLOW PREVENTERS OR PARTS FOR REPAIRS.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY. WE JUST NEVER HAVE HAD THAT REPORTED TO US AS A PROBLEM.
>> IF THERE WERE AN ISSUE THAT WERE TO COME UP, COULD THERE BE A GRACE PERIOD WITH NOTIFICATION TO UTILITY?
>> AS LONG AS THE CUSTOMER IS TAKING INITIATIVE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE, WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK WITH THEM.
>> THEN JUST ONE MORE ITEM WITH THE PLUMBER AND CERTIFICATION.
I UNDERSTAND THE TOWN HAS A BACKFLOW PREVENTION AND CROSS CONNECTION WEB PAGE ON ITS WEBSITE.
IT DOES TALK ABOUT THE CERTIFICATION THAT PLUMBERS NEED TO HAVE TO BE QUALIFIED TO DO THIS WORK, IS THAT RIGHT? BUT IF YOU COULD ALSO SPEAK TO MR. MAURY'S POINT, JUST IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE PLUMBER OR IF ONE DOES FAIL AND A SECOND OPINION PASSES, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE EXPENSIVE WORK FOR A RESIDENT.
>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT MORE CLOSELY.
I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT BEING REPORTED TO US.
I AGREE $500 TO REPAIR OR REPLACE THE BACKFLOW SEEMS EXCESSIVE.
THE RESEARCH THAT WE DID, WE DID CALL A COUPLE PLUMBERS, AND WE FOUND THAT THE AVERAGE COST TO TEST A REDUCED PRESSURE DEVICE OR A DOUBLE CHECK VALVE IS $125 FOR ANYTHING UNDER TWO INCHES, AND THEN OVER TWO INCHES, IT'S $150.
THEN THE AVERAGE COST FOR A PLUMBER TO COME IN AND TEST A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN BULK IS $75 PER DEVICE.
THAT'S JUST WHAT WE FOUND FROM CALLING A COUPLE OF PLUMBERS.
>> I'LL JUST ASK THIS IN A QUESTION FORMAT, BUT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED.
IF IN USING A SO CALLED PROFESSIONAL, THERE'S A FEELING LIKE IT WASN'T PROFESSIONAL, HOW WOULD A RESIDENT REPORT THAT OR DO WITH THAT INFORMATION? WHAT I WOULD ANSWER, BUT I'D ASK YOU TO ANSWER AFTER I DO IS WE HAVE THIS JUPITER CONNECT SYSTEM AND IT'S A CATCH ALL.
WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE IT BECAUSE ONE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS IT USED TO BE YOU COULD CALL SOMEBODY AND THEN IT WASN'T BEING TRACKED.
EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN THERE GETS TRACKED SO IF IT'S AN UNUSUAL ITEM, I'VE USED IT, MOST OF THEM AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE PROGRAM TO GO TO THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON, BUT AN ADD BALL ONE, THAT MAY BE ONE WOULD BE LOOKED AT.
BUT I DO THINK WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION.
I THINK WE'D HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE USED IT.
BUT I THINK WE'D ASKED IN THE LAST MEETING, AND OUR STAFF WAS GOING TO DO IT IF WE DIDN'T ASK, WAS GOING TO TRY TO BE AS PROACTIVE AS WE CAN IN SHARING, ARE WE DOING THAT? WHO IS AVAILABLE TO DO THIS WORK? THEN THAT MAY ELIMINATE OR REDUCE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
>> THE STATE REQUIRES THAT IT'S A LICENSED PLUMBER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THAT THEY ALSO HAVE A BACKFLOW CERTIFICATION BY AN ACCREDITED COMPANY AGENCY THROUGH THE FLORIDA SECTION AWWA, AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION.
I WOULD SAY, IN CASES LIKE THAT, IF YOU JUST LET US KNOW, WE HAVE A WEBSITE EMAIL ADDRESS, BACKFLOW@JUPITER.FL.US OR CALL OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT, AND FOR ANY EGREGIOUS CHARGES, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET IN TOUCH WITH THE PLUMBERS AND FIND OUT WHY WAS IT THAT MUCH MONEY AND SEE IF IT WAS JUSTIFIED AND WE'LL HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
>> I THOUGHT MR. MAURY SAID $1,700.
DID YOU SAY THAT? THAT'S $1,700.
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>> IT'S WORTH JUST FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN DONE TO COST THAT MUCH MONEY.
>> QUICK QUESTION. WOULD WE OR COULD WE HAVE A LIST OF APPROVED CONTRACTORS SANCTIONED BY THE TOWN THAT THE TOWN COULD VET AND THERE'D BE A SAFE VET TO GO THROUGH? ANYBODY CAN DO IT THAT'S LICENSED AND CERTIFIED, BUT IS IT FEASIBLE?
THE CLOSEST THAT I COULD COME UP WITH IS WE CAN PUT OUT A SOLICITATION OR A LETTER OF INTEREST TO PLUMBERS AND THEY CAN PROVIDE US WITH A PRICE SHEET OF WHAT THEIR NORMAL ROUTINE CHARGES WOULD BE, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT LIST TO CUSTOMERS.
>> THEY MAY BE EAGER TO DO IT KNOWING THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF THESE JOBS, AND THEY MAY BE WILLING TO REDUCE THEIR PRICE JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE GUYS OUT THERE DOING IT.
THEY GET MORE ADEPT TO IT, THEY'RE QUICKER, THEY STOCK THE PARTS, THEY JUST RUN OUT AND DO IT, AND PEOPLE HAVE MORE COMFORT IN CALLING APPROVED CONTRACTORS. IT'S DOABLE.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WE WON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE PLUMBERS, BUT THEY WOULD JUST BE BASICALLY RESPONDING TO THE LETTER AND THEN THEIR NAME WOULD BE PROVIDED ON A LIST THAT WE CAN SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD POST IT PUBLICLY, BUT ANYBODY THAT CONTACTED US AND ASKED FOR IT, WE CAN PROVIDE IT TO THEM.
>> WE REALIZE WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS UNPRECEDENTED, NOT NORMALLY DONE SO WE OWN IT WITH YOU.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE US FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER.
THIS IS NOT BURDENED UPON YOU BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING A CONTRACT.
YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD APPARENTLY, IT'S LEFT TO THE INDIVIDUALS, BUT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, THE ASSOCIATION HANDLES IT, SO IT'S LESS LIKELY TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
BUT SOMEHOW WE'LL TAKE IT AS AN ACTION ITEM.
WE'RE NOT JUST DUMPING IT ON OUR WATER UTILITY DIRECTOR TO DO, BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THIS, BUT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE BEST INFORMATION WE CAN, BECAUSE BOTTOM LINE, HAVING IT TESTED AND FIXED, IF NEED BE, IS WITH THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST COST EFFECTIVELY.
>> I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO JUST SHARE THAT.
IN THE DASHBOARD THAT I PROVIDED, IN 2024, NOT WE, BUT OVER 6,400 BACKFLOW DEVICES WERE TESTED OR REPORTED AND 168 OF THOSE FAILED.
WE'RE NOT IN A BAD POSITION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE THAT COMPLIANCE RATE AND JUST KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE COMPLYING AND TESTING AND REPAIRING.
BUT WE WILL TRY TO WORK AT COMING UP WITH SOME WAY TO CONTROL PRICING.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, CAN YOU PUT THE GUIDELINES WHAT THE AVERAGE PRICING IS ON THE WEBSITE IN CASE CONSUMERS ARE OUT THERE LOOKING AND THEY GET THIS CRAZY 1,700, AND YOU GET 125 AND 150? THAT SHOULD BE THE RED LIGHT OR THE FLAG RIGHT THERE FOR 17.
>> WELL 1,700, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DONE.
I HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE THAN JUST TESTING AND RECERTIFYING.
I'M GUESSING THE 125 IS FROM THE COME OUT, TEST IT, IT PASSES AND THEY REPORT THE RESULTS [INAUDIBLE]
>> BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT TO THE OVERSIGHT IF YOU PUT OUT A LIST OF SUGGESTED, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN BETWEEN THE TIME THAT LIST WAS PUT OUT, IT'S DEFINITELY HARD.
>> THE REQUEST ACTUALLY GOES TO THE TOWN MANAGER TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE IT'S BEYOND JUST THE WATER UTILITY HERE.
WE HAVE PROCUREMENT RULES THAT I'M NOT CLEAR ON.
MR. KITZEROW YOU AGREE TO TAKE THAT ON.
>> WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING INTO IT, MAYOR.
>> YOU MAY NEVER GET TO 100% ACCURACY ON THE TESTING BECAUSE SOMETIMES VALVES WITH SEDIMENT AND SILT, THEY CAN WORK INTERMITTENTLY.
AM I CORRECT ON THAT? THERE MAY BE MISTAKES.
>> THOSE ARE EASY TO FLUSH THEM OUT.
>> THANK YOU. I CAN MAKE A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 13-25, SECOND READING.
>> A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
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>> MAYOR, I NEED TO READ THE ORDINANCE TITLE.
>> SORRY. THANK YOU. READ IT ON SHORT TITLE.
>> ORDINANCE 13-25, AND ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA, PERTAINING TO BACKFLOW PREVENTION AND CROSS CONNECTION CONTROL CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 20, ARTICLE V, THE TOWN CODE BY AMENDING THE DEFINITIONS OF CERTAIN TERMS, ADDING A NEW DEFINITION AND AMENDING THE REGULATIONS CONTAINED IN SECTIONS 2217, 2219, 2021-2236, 2238-2239, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC VISIT ITEM NUMBER 9,
[9. Authorization of Work Order No. 34 of Contract EPW 2016-12A with Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc. for Jupiter Fire Rescue Department – Temporary Fire Station Professional Consulting Services in an Amount Not to Exceed $63,139.87]
PULLED BY MR. PUZZ.DO YOU WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS AND DID YOU NEED A PRESENTATION?
AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCILORS, TOWN MANAGER, WILLIE PUZZ 6121 UNGERER STREET.
THIS BASICALLY IS JUST A GENERAL COMMENT ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
IN MANY CORRESPONDENCES FROM COUNCIL AND THROUGH THE TOWN, THERE'S BEEN MENTIONS OF EFFORT OF TRANSPARENCY ON THE FIRE ISSUE.
YOU HAVE EVEN OPENLY DEFENDED THAT THE FIRE DECISION WAS WELL COMMUNICATED AND THAT THE PUBLIC HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK OF IT.
BUT HERE WE ARE, BEFORE US IS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FOR A POSSIBLE TEMPORARY FIRE STATION BY A SCHOOL THAT COULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT MANY MAY HAVE HEARD OF THIS ISSUE.
WHAT'S EVEN MORE TROUBLING IN RELATION TO TRANSPARENCY IS THAT THERE'S A WEB PAGE TITLED FIRE STATIONS AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
IT SAYS, AND THIS IS QUOTING FROM THE PAGE.
"THIS PAGE PROVIDES UPDATES ON ONGOING FIRE STATION CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE NEW CINQUEZ FIRE STATION, AND THE PIATT PLACE FIRE STATION, AS WELL AS INFORMATION ON EXISTING STATIONS THAT WILL BE INTEGRATED INTO OUR FIRE SERVICE NETWORK." THERE IS NO INFORMATION ON STATION 16.
THERE IS NO MENTION OF A TEMPORARY STATION TO COME.
MY RESEARCH OF "TEMPORARY" FIRE STATIONS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE SHOWED NO RESULTS.
PLEASE MAKE TRANSPARENCY HAPPEN. THANK YOU.
>> JUST TO COMMENT ON THAT. NOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR OBSERVATIONS.
>> IT'S INTERESTING WE DO SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EFFORT TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING TRANSPARENT.
IT IS EXTREMELY COMMON PRACTICE TO USE A TEMPORARY FIRE STATION WHILE AN EXISTING STATION IS GETTING RENOVATED.
WE DID ALWAYS ANTICIPATE THIS AND HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.
WASN'T LIKE THIS JUST CAME OUT OF LEFT FIELD FOR US.
WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN WE NEEDED TO DO THIS WHEN WE GET THE STATION BACK FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY.
IT NEEDS TO GET RENOVATIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN IS ABOUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF TOWN MANAGER IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE TRANSPARENCY POINT.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSION, WE ASKED FOR A 90-DAY TRANSITION PERIOD, ONE OF WHICH PART OF THAT PROCESS WAS TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE ON STATION 16 AND THE TRANSITION OF THAT STATION.
AS YOU WELL KNOW, THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION SUPPORTED THE FLIP OF THE SWITCH APPROACH, AND THIS IS BASED ON MY OWN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE, YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE FIRE DEPARTMENT PULL OUT OF A STATION AT 12 O'CLOCK MIDNIGHT, AND THE NEXT FIRE DEPARTMENT COME IN AT ONE SECOND PAST MIDNIGHT AND EXPECT THEM TO FUNCTION.
WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO PUT UP A TEMPORARY STATION BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN.
NOW, HAVING SAID THAT FOR TRANSPARENCY, I DID ASK THE FIRE CHIEF, AND THE POLICE CHIEF WENT AND MET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS STATION BEING THERE AND MET WITH THE LOCAL SCHOOL OFFICIALS TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE STATION TO BE THERE VERY LONG.
WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STATION WAS WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE DISTRICT, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DIDN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT RESPONSE TIMES AND WAS ABLE TO ADEQUATELY HOUSE THE THE STAFF THAT WILL BE THERE.
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WE'VE WORKED THROUGH ALL OF THESE ISSUES, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS THE MAYOR SAID, UNLIKE THE POLICE STATIONS, I HAVE SINCE FOUND OUT THAT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE TEMPORARY FIRE STATIONS, AS A MATTER OF FACT THERE ARE TEMPORARY FIRE STATIONS ALL AROUND THE COUNTY, AND ONE OF OUR DEPUTY CHIEFS IN THE PREVIOUS LIFE WITH ANOTHER COUNTY FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, ANOTHER FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, THAT WAS HIS JOB.THE TEMPORARY STATION THAT WE HAVE SECURED WAS ACTUALLY USED BY ANOTHER LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT WHILE THEIR STATION WAS BEING RENOVATED.
WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN.
THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE WE HAD ANY ANY OTHER PUBLIC DISCUSSION, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES WAS THAT I'VE ASKED THE FIRE CHIEF TO GO DOWN AND MEET WITH THOSE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, AND WE'VE GOTTEN VERY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THEM WANTS TO OPEN THE CLUBHOUSE FOR US TO USE.
ALL WE WANTED TO REALLY DO WAS JUST LET THEM MAKE SURE THAT WE LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING.
I DON'T KNOW, CHIEF, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT.
I KNOW YOU WERE THE PERSON THAT WENT DOWN AND SPOKE TO THEM.
>> HI, DARREL DONATO, FIRE CHIEF, JUPITER FIRE RESCUE.
AS THE TOWN MANAGER SAID, FOR US, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE ENSURE THE CONTINUITY OF SERVICE THAT WHEN RESIDENTS CALL 911 ON OCTOBER 1, 2026, JUPITER FIRE RESCUE IS GOING TO BE READY TO RESPOND.
WE DID MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO TRY AND CREATE A TRANSITION PLAN WITH A COUNTY ON ABACO STATION TO TRANSITION THAT EARLIER, BUT THAT DIDN'T TRANSPIRE.
WE ARE STILL WAITING TO MEET WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT A FIRE DEPARTMENT TO RUN AND WE HAVE CALLS THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN AND WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND.
WE CAN'T WAIT ON THAT AND WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED, NO MATTER WHAT, WE HAVE TO BE READY.
THIS IS A STATION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN USED HERE LOCALLY.
IT'S DESIGNED AS A FIRE STATION, IT'S CAT5 RATED.
WE DO NEED TO USE THAT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF SERVICE AND RESPONSE TIMES IN THAT AREA.
WE DID GO MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS IN THAT AREA, AND AS WELL AS MET WITH THE PRINCIPAL OF THE SCHOOL TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
THIS STATION IS NOT GOING TO MOVE THERE UNTIL MARCH, APRIL TIME FRAME.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM AS WE GO THROUGH THAT.
RIGHT NOW, THE ITEM YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS SIMPLY TO DO THE ENGINEERING.
TO PUT A BUILDING ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, YOU GOT TO MAKE IT THROUGH A NUMBER OF PROCESSES, AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROCESSES THAT ANY PRIVATE INDUSTRY, BUILDING OR ANYBODY ELSE WOULD GO THROUGH.
WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF OUR PERMITTING STUFF IN ORDER.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS SIMPLY TO GET AUTHORIZATION TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS, TO GET THE BUILDING STUFF IN ORDER, TO COME BACK, TO GO THROUGH YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING PROCESS, THROUGH YOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND BEFORE COUNCIL FOR ALL THOSE THINGS AGAIN.
TONIGHT IS JUST AN ITEM THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GET THE ENGINEERING THINGS GOING SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THIS AT A FUTURE DATE.
>> MAYOR, I HAD ALSO PULLED NUMBER 9, AND I WANTED TO ASK CHIEF DONATO WHILE HE WAS HERE, JUST TO CONFIRM, WE DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF STATION 16 OR THE CONDITION OF STATION 16, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. I HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS EARLIER ON WITH THE CHIEFS OUT OF THE COUNTY AND THEY PROMISED ME AND ASSURED ME THAT THE STATION'S IN GREAT SHAPE, THAT IT'LL BE TURNED OVER IN GREAT SHAPE, AND I TRUST AND BELIEVE THEM THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
I HAVE NO REASON TO THINK ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS WHAT ALL EQUIPMENT AND FURNITURE HAS TO GET MOVED IN TO MAKE IT USABLE. WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL IS LEAVING AND WHAT ALL STAYING.
WE ATTEMPTED TO GET A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE FINER DETAILS AND THAT MEETING WON'T OCCUR UNTIL JANUARY.
IF WE NEED TO HAVE A TEMP STATION, WE'VE GOT TO START THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO GUARANTEE THE YOU OF SERVICE, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEFORE YOU.
>> I AGREE. I WISH THOSE CONVERSATIONS COULD BE EARLIER THAN JANUARY, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY COMMITTED.
I HAD PULLED THIS FOR TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS SUCH A HOT TOPIC IN TOWN.
THERE'S A LOT WE DON'T KNOW, AS YOU SAID, INCLUDING THE CONDITION OF 16, INCLUDING THAT THIS PERMANENT PROCESS WILL GO.
YOU OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO SHOW RESPECT FOR
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THE COMMUNITIES AROUND THERE WHO ARE IMMEDIATELY AFFECTED.I SPOKE WITH THE HRA PRESIDENT FOR TUSCANY AND OTHERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN WITH YOU AND HAVE OFFERED TO HELP. THAT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR.
I WANTED TO CHECK WITH THEM AS THIS ITEM WAS ON THE AGENDA AND SHARE THAT AND JUST CONFIRM THAT TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US.
I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH RESIDENTS AS WE LEARN MORE WORKING WITH THIS CONSULTANT. THANK YOU.
>> CHIEF, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT EQUIPMENT THEY'RE GOING TO PULL AND TAKE OUT ON OCTOBER 1ST.
WOULD YOU IMAGINE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE FAIRLY STRIPPED DOWN?
>> I DON'T THINK SO. I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AGAIN WITH THEM, VERY GREAT CONVERSATIONS, THEY INDICATED TO ME THAT IT'S LIKE BUYING A HOUSE, THOSE THINGS THAT ARE FIXED, STAY BUT THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NOT FIXED GO.
BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE STATION YET.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET INTO IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE, DON'T KNOW WHAT'S FIXED, WHAT'S NOT.
OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF SERVICE, NO MATTER WHAT.
WE WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE PREPARED NO MATTER WHAT.
>> VICE MAYOR, IF I COULD ADD ANOTHER THING TOO, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF HAVING WORKED WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE FOR 20 YEARS NOW, BOTH AS A POLICE CHIEF IN JUPITER, POLICE CHIEF OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND NOW AS THE TOWN MANAGER.
THEY'RE VERY PROFESSIONAL DEPARTMENT, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING ANY ISSUES OR CHALLENGES FROM THEM.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LITTLE TENUOUS AT TIMES, AND IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF IT, BUT WE'RE FULLY EXPECTING THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE WILL BE VERY PROFESSIONAL AS WE GET CLOSER TO THIS TRANSITION.
AS THE CHIEF SAID, BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY.
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. THESE ARE THE INITIAL STEPS.
JANUARY IS TOO LATE, BUT WE'RE NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN PROFESSIONALISM FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.
>> PUBLIC SAFETY'S PRIORITY 1, SO WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, CORRECT?
>> I KNOW THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY.
>> I THINK YOUR ANALOGY OF WHEN YOU BUY A HOME, FOR EXAMPLE, FIX STUFF STAY, BUT THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT THERE IS NO STANDARD.
DOES THE APPLIANCES STAY OR NOT? THEY MAY GO AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE APPLIANCES THERE OVER AT 12:00 MIDNIGHT THAT NIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK OUT AND MAKE SURE, AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT, IT'S THE EQUIPMENT AND STUFF THAT OUR FIREMEN NEED AND PARAMEDICS, SUPPLIES AND WHATEVER, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE SUPPLIES BEHIND, SO THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF STUFF.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOUR TEAM IS DOING AND GETTING AN EARLY START ON THIS AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS THERE.
>> ALSO, WE'LL NEED TO BRING THAT STATION UP TO THE STANDARDS OF OUR NEW OR MORE MODERN STATIONS, CORRECT?
>> WE DON'T ANTICIPATE GOING THROUGH AND TEARING IT DOWN AND REBUILDING IT.
>> BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S INSIDE.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW THAT THEY DO A GREAT JOB WITH THEIR FACILITIES.
THEY'VE GOT SOME GREAT FOLKS OVER THERE.
THEY DESIGN GREAT FACILITIES, AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE GREAT PROBLEMS. WILL WE NEED TO GO IN AND PUT IN FURNITURE? I'M SURE WE WILL.
>> WILL WE NEED TO GO IN AND MAYBE PUT SOME PAINT SOMEWHERE, THAT'S POSSIBLE.
SOME OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT NOT KEEP US FROM OCCUPYING IT.
WE CAN DO IT DURING IT, BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW AND THIS CONTINUITY OF THE SERVICE IS ESSENTIAL, WE DO NOT WANT ANYTHING THAT WOULD EVER JEOPARDIZE OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THE AREA AROUND THAT STATION.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLAN THAT GUARANTEES THAT WE'RE READY TO GO.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING BECAUSE COUNTY FIRE RESCUES HAS SERVED THIS COMMUNITY WELL.
WE APPRECIATE THOSE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
WE FEEL IT WAS TIME TO MOVE ON, BUT THERE'S STILL ALWAYS IS THIS SITUATION OF SENSITIVITIES, AND I GET THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRYING TO GO OUT OF A WAY TO EMPHASIZE THE COUNTY AS PART OF THEIR NORMAL PROCESS, RENOVATES STATIONS, AND SO IF THEY'VE LEFT BEHIND SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE RENOVATED,
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THAT'S NOT A NEGATIVE.THEY DO IT. IT HAS TO BE DONE.
HOMES DO IT, IT'S LIKELY WE'RE GOING TO FIND SOME STUFF THAT HAVE TO BE RENOVATED.
THEY WOULDN'T BE RENOVATING BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE MOVING ON, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
NONE OF THIS IS ANY FAULT-FINDING, BUT WE HAVE TO EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME OF THAT.
THERE IS ANY HOME YOU EVER BUY.
YOU PUT IT WELL BY USING THAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE WE ALL COULD RELATE TO THAT.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 9 AS WELL.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[12. Resolution 80-25, Approving a Unit Price Contract with Johnson-Davis Inc. for Utility Infrastructure Repairs (WS2539) for an amount of $1,500,000.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM 12, PULLED BY COUNCILOR GUISINGER.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED BY JOHNSON DAVIS AND WILL LIKELY BE ENGAGED IN THIS CONTRACT, SO I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
>> I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON RESOLUTION 80-25.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES 4:0 WITH COUNCILOR GUISINGER ABSTAINING.
[13. Discussion of the Parks Facility Master Plan and Guiding Document.]
MOVING ON TO THE ROUND TABLE.WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE PARK FACILITY MASTER PLAN AND GUIDING DOCUMENT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAS COMMENTS?
>> IT'S ALWAYS UNUSUAL IN A ROUND TABLE, SO I WOULD ASK HIM TO COME UP AND MAKE HIS COMMENTS IF HE CAN SO WE CAN ADDRESS THEM.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. JUST REAL QUICK.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY APPRECIATION FOR THE COUNCIL FOR TOWN STAFF THAT TOOK SO MUCH TIME PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
OBVIOUSLY, THE CONSULTANTS AS WELL, BUT THE OVERSIGHT BY THE TOWN OF JUPITER STAFF HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL GETTING TO THIS POINT.
I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MASTER PLAN, AND IT'S GREAT.
ADDRESSES A LOT OF RENOVATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED.
SOME EXCITING ITEMS THAT ARE COMING TO THE PARKS LIKE MAPLEWOOD PARK.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY APPRECIATION TO EVERYBODY FOR GETTING TO THIS POINT.
WE'RE EXCITED HOPEFULLY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SEE IT THROUGH, JUST LET US KNOW, BUT REALLY APPRECIATE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU, ADAM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MIKE KAUFMAN, COMMUNITY SERVICES.
I'M INCREDIBLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THE PARK FACILITY MASTER PLAN AND GUIDING DOCUMENT, WHICH HAS COME A LONG WAY OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO THE PRESENTATION.
SPEAKING A LONG WAY, BACK IN 2023, THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE WAS DEVELOPED TO CREATE A MASTER PLAN, AND THERE'S SEVERAL STEPS THAT TAKE PLACE IN ORDER TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WE'RE PROPOSING THIS DRAFT MASTER PLAN.
SOME OF THOSE STEPS INCLUDE SOLICITING PUBLIC INPUT THROUGH PUBLIC WORKSHOPS.
BACK IN APRIL OF 2024, WE HAD A PUBLIC WORKSHOP THAT INVOLVED 80 RESIDENTS THAT WENT THROUGH SEVERAL EXERCISES WHERE WE WERE TO COLLECT DATA AND DO AN ANALYSIS.
WE ALSO HAD AN ONLINE SURVEY THROUGH I BELIEVE THE MONTH OF APRIL IN 2024 THAT HAD JUST UNDER 800 RESPONDENTS, AND AGAIN, ABLE TO COLLECT DATA AND ANALYSIS, AND ALSO UTILIZING AND LEVERAGING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS IN ORDER TO COLLECT INFORMATION THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE RESPONDING TO.
ALL OF THAT REALLY IS THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT TODAY IN THE DRAFT MASTER PLAN.
WE'VE ALSO COLLABORATED WITH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS.
THAT INCLUDES SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT WE SHARED THIS DOCUMENT WITH THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GIVE INPUT ON, AND ALSO OUR EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE HAVE CONTINUOUS RELATIONSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE'VE ASSESSED OUR INVENTORY AND ALSO ANALYZED OUR NEEDS AND ESSENTIALLY HAVE DEVELOPED A ROAD-MAP OF PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ALIGN WITH OUR CIP, AND WE'VE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT THIS DOES ALIGN WITH OUR CIP PROCESS.
LASTLY, THE PLAN DOES IDENTIFY AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, WHICH AGAIN, WE'VE ALIGNED WITH OUR FINANCE.
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>> I TOUCHED ON PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT WE HEARD THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS, I GOT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC OVER 80% OF THE RESIDENTS, FEEL THAT THE COMMUNICATION EFFORT DONE BY THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS EFFECTIVE AND THAT THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF WHAT PROGRAMS THE DEPARTMENT OFFERS.
SOME OF THE MORE POPULAR FACILITIES INCLUDE ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK, JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK, LIGHTHOUSE PARK, INDIAN CREEK PARK, AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
THE MOST USED FACILITIES CORRELATE WITH THOSE MOST POPULAR FACILITIES, INCLUDING ALL THE PLAYGROUNDS, ATHLETIC FIELDS, FITNESS TRAILS, AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS THE HUB OF PROGRAMMING HERE, THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THE EMPHASIS REALLY FROM THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WAS SHADED OUTDOOR AREAS.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT GETS HOTTER EVERY YEAR.
THERE WAS A BIG EMPHASIS ON INCORPORATING MORE SHADED AREAS AND IMPROVING UPON WHAT WE HAVE.
ALSO, THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT INDOOR GYM SPACE FACILITIES, FACILITY UPGRADES, PLAYGROUND ENHANCEMENTS, WHICH WE'RE ALREADY CURRENTLY DOING GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND ADDITIONAL PARKING, WHICH IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ALL THESE UPGRADES, WE DON'T ASSURE THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR PEOPLE TO UTILIZE.
LASTLY, THERE'S A LOT OF HIGH SUPPORT.
THERE'S A COMMON THEME FOR SUPPORT AMONG RESIDENTS FOR REVITALIZING THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES.
WHAT'S THE STRATEGIC APPROACH AND THE PLAN VISION? IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ICON, THE REVITALIZE, CONNECT, EXPAND, AND ENHANCE, THAT SEEMS TO BE A CORE THEME THROUGHOUT THE DRAFT.
REALLY, THAT IS THAT TOWN OF JUPITER HAS A STRONG PARK INFRASTRUCTURE TO BEGIN WITH 22 TOWN-OPERATED PARKS.
WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS LEVERAGE AND UPGRADE THE EXISTING FIELDS, COURTS, RENOVATE RESTROOMS, PLAYGROUNDS, CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND EXPAND THE PARKING.
NOT ONLY THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT THE TOWN INVESTMENTS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE ALL THIS FUNDING FOR PROJECTS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EXTENDING THE LIFE MAINTENANCE OF THESE AND HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PLANS AND STANDARDIZATION THROUGHOUT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WHICH THEY DO ALREADY A FANTASTIC JOB MAINTAINING OUR PARKS.
THEN OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO UPGRADE OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS TO EXPAND THE LIFE CYCLE OF OUR FIELDS.
CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH SHADE, OBVIOUSLY, ADD SHADE, WHERE IT'S POSSIBLE, PLAYGROUNDS, PAVILIONS, BLEACHERS, THAT'S ALL THROUGHOUT THE PLAN AS WELL.
THEN ENHANCE THE CONNECTION AND ACCESS.
WE WANT TO ENSURE THE NUMBER ONE AEROBIC EXERCISE, NOT ONLY HERE LOCALLY BUT NATIONALLY, IS WALKING, AND WE WANT TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER IMPROVE THEIR LIVES AT OUR PARKS BY EXERCISING.
WE WANT TO CREATE THOSE TRAILS AND PATHWAYS.
BUT ALSO, WE WANT TO ENSURE CONNECTIVITY JUST MAKES SENSE FOR THE AVERAGE USER AND RESIDENT, GETTING FROM POINT A TO POINT B, WE WANT TO MAKE THAT SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE.
THEN WE WANT TO FIND EFFICIENCIES AS WELL AND PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY WHERE IT'S POSSIBLE AT THE WEST JUPITER RECREATION CENTER AND ALSO AT THE AQUATIC CENTER.
I KNOW IT'S HARD TO SEE THIS MATRIX, BUT REALLY IT'S PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY THROUGHOUT THE DRAFT MASTER PLAN, AND REALLY IT'S IDENTIFYING THE PARKS AND THEN THE CORRESPONDING PROJECTS UNDERNEATH THEM.
ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED SHORT, MID AND LONG TERM, SO 1-3 YEARS, 4-6 YEARS, AND 7-10 YEARS.
WE'VE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE ALIGNED THIS DRAFT MASTER PLAN WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN MATCHES WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
ALSO IT ADDRESSES AND IMPLEMENTS THE TOWN STRATEGIC PLAN.
BUT ULTIMATELY, THIS IS REALLY A GUIDING FRAMEWORK FOR THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROCESS.
IT GIVES US THE ABILITY EACH FISCAL YEAR TO CHOOSE FROM DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
ON WHAT WE CAN DO IN CERTAIN YEARS AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO OTHER YEARS.
MAYBE SOME YEARS WE ARE ABLE TO DO MORE PROJECTS THAN OTHERS, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THIS GIVES US A STRATEGIC POSITION, COORDINATION, AND ORGANIZATION TO LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED FOR AND IMPLEMENT THEM SYSTEMATICALLY.
SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED ARE THE COMMUNITY CENTER IMPROVEMENTS, THE ATHLETIC FIELD AND PARK UPGRADES, THE TRAIL AND CONNECTIVITY PROJECTS, RESTROOMS, STORAGE FACILITIES, AND THEN THE PLAYGROUNDS AND AMENITIES.
NEXT STEPS, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS WE'RE OBVIOUSLY SEEKING TOWN COUNCIL GUIDANCE ON PROJECT PRIORITIZATION.
IF THERE'S ANY INPUT ON TONIGHT'S ROUND TABLE, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY UPDATE THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THAT INPUT.
THEN WE'RE LOOKING TO FORMALLY ADOPT THE PLAN ON AUGUST 19, WHICH IS OUR NEXT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
THEN ONCE THAT PLAN IS OFFICIALLY ADOPTED, WE'D POST THE PLAN TO OUR WEBSITE, AND THEN ESSENTIALLY THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS WOULD BEGIN FROM THERE.
I TRY TO KEEP THAT BRIEF AND SWEET TO THE POINT AND HOPEFULLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE.
>> I'LL KICK IT OFF. NUMBER 1,
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I THINK THIS IS A PHENOMENAL EFFORT.THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE WAS INITIATED IN 2023.
I WOULD SAY IT HAS ALREADY DRIVEN AND INFLUENCED PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT I WANT THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE'RE DOING A PLAYGROUND UPGRADE PROGRAM THAT REALLY WAS INITIATED THEN AND NOW WE'RE GETTING THE REPORT.
SOME OF WHAT IS IN RECOMMENDATIONS IT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY.
IT'S UNDERWAY BY THIS INITIATIVE.
I HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS I WANT TO MAKE TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MORE TRY TO FRAME IT TO THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE SITTING HERE AND IT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.
STAFF PRESENTS WHEN THEY'RE DONE AND THEN WE RECEIVE IT, BUT WE ULTIMATELY HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, WE ALSO HAD MET ONE ON ONE.
I THINK YOU MET WITH EVERYBODY.
FEEDBACK WAS PROVIDED FROM EVERY ONE OF US INDIVIDUALLY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER SAID, BUT WE INDIVIDUALLY GAVE INPUT.
I SAW SOME REVISIONS WERE MADE IN THE TEXT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I REACTED TO THIS FORMALLY ADOPT THE PLAN ON AUGUST 19.
QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S AN IMPOSSIBILITY, BUT IT ISN'T.
IT'S THE DECISION, AND I'M JUST FRAMING THIS BECAUSE AS THE MAYOR I HAVE TO TRY TO STEER US, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S THE FIVE OF US TO DECIDE.
THE REASON WHY I HAD SAID THAT IN DISTO ONE ON ONE WAS WE HAVEN'T HAD OUR CIP PLAN WORKSHOP.
THAT COULD BE OKAY, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC THEN UNDERSTANDS.
WE COULD ADOPT IT IF THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED AT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION, OR WE CAN I DON'T WANT TO SAY TABLE BECAUSE WE ARE USING IT AS WAS SAID VERY WELL.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I LOOKED AT, AND I HAD REVIEWED THIS BEFORE I REVIEWED THE CIP, AND I'VE ALREADY GIVEN COMMENTS ON, BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, AND I THOUGHT I WAS VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE PLAN THAT WAS IN THE CIP.
THE TOTALITY OF THIS PLAN WAS IN THE $75 MILLION TO $100 MILLION RANGE, SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY.
WE GOT TO USE THIS TO PRIORITIZE AND MAKE DECISIONS.
PART OF IT IS ONES WE ALREADY MADE OR WE WILL MAKE COLLECTIVELY IN THE CIP.
I THOUGHT SOME THINGS IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ACCELERATE THEM. LIMITED FUNDS.
IF SOMETHING GETS ACCELERATED, SOMETHING GETS PUSHED BACK, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO GET INTO THE WORKSHOP CONVERSATIONS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FRAME EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE MAKING A DECISION ON.
EVERY CIP PROCESS WHICH IS ANNUALLY, STAFF WOULD BE USING THIS AS A GUIDELINE, AND WE'D BE USING IT AS A GUIDELINE.
WE WANT TO GET MAXIMUM BENEFIT OF HAVING USED THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO FRAME IT SO THEN EVERYBODY CAN WEIGH IN ON YOUR OPINION ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S SEPARATE FROM GIVEN SPECIFIC ITEMS. I DO THINK DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS BEING RECEIVED, SOME OF THE COMMENTS I MADE ALREADY TO STAFF THAT WILL BE IN THE WORKSHOP.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, AND I'LL JUST USE ONE AS AN EXAMPLE IS THAT LIGHTHOUSE PARK.
IT'S INTERESTING, YOU LOOK AT THE SCORING TABLE ON PAGE 69 IN THE DRAFT. IT'S FUNNY.
FOR YEARS, I REMEMBER OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING, HEY, WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH LIGHTHOUSE PARK, AND I DIDN'T GO TO LIGHTHOUSE PARK, SO I WASN'T AS FAMILIAR WITH IT.
WELL, I'VE BEEN GOING TO LIGHTHOUSE PARK. IT'S A NEED.
THESE THINGS NEED TO BE DONE AT LIGHTHOUSE PARK AS AN EXAMPLE.
NOW, FIVE US WILL DECIDE THAT, SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE NEEDS TO BE MOVED UP.
I THINK WE'RE WELL ON A WAY FOR THE PLAYGROUND UPGRADES, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING ENOUGH TO RENOVATE THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS IS A CRITICISM ON OUR STAFF BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION TO PRESENT TO US KNOWING WE HAVE A LIMITATION ON FUNDING.
BUT IN THE END, THAT'S WHAT PRIORITIZATION IS ABOUT.
IF ALL OF US WERE TO AGREE OR A MAJORITY, THAT, YEAH,
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WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE MORE THE RENOVATION OF THE FIELDS, THEN IS IN THE DRAFT CIP WE HAVE, THEN WE EITHER HAVE TO FIND FUNDING OR SOMETHING ELSE MOVES BACK.WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ALL THAT TONIGHT.
I'M JUST USING THIS AS AN ILLUSTRATION TO KNOW THAT WE'RE RECEIVING THIS.
IT'S GOING TO SERVE US EXTREMELY WELL.
YOU ALL CAN WEIGH IN ON YOUR OPINION ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S LIKE WHEN WE DO ACT UPON IT, IT ISN'T GOING TO BE AS CLEAN AS EVERYTHING'S ADDRESSED BECAUSE EVEN OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN ONLY IS A FIVE YEAR LOOK AHEAD.
THIS IS THE MOST DIFFICULT OF TIMES THAT I'VE EVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH IN 25 YEARS ON GOING BEYOND WHAT MONEY WE HAVE.
I'LL JUST PAUSE THERE AND I'LL JUST TURN TO MY LEFT FIRST.
COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM, DO YOU WANT TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY?
>> SURE. YES, WE MET WITH STAFF ONE ON ONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INCLUDING THE COMMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE HISTORY SECTION.
IF ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LEARN ABOUT THE HISTORY OF RECREATION, SPECIFICALLY IN OUR DEPARTMENT, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I'LL SHARE SOME THOUGHTS I HAD JUST BECAUSE IT'S OUR FIRST TIME SHARING OUR REACTIONS AND OUR PRIORITIES TONIGHT.
THE CIP, IT'S FIVE-YEAR PLAN, BUT THIS PLAN GOES BEYOND THAT.
WE'VE GOT THE SHORT, MEDIUM, LONG TERM.
THE CIP IS IMPORTANT AND I AGREE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I HAD IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF, BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN OUR CIP DOCUMENT AND HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
IT IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE ARE DOING SUCH A SCRUB OF IT BECAUSE OF OUR BUDGET ENVIRONMENT AND FUTURE BUDGET ENVIRONMENT, AS WE HEAR IN THE EXTERNAL ENVIRONMENT, THERE'S STILL THIS DISCUSSION ON PROPERTY TAXES.
YOU HAVE TO PUT AN ASTERISK ON ALL OF THIS.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT WILL BE NEXT YEAR, WHAT LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT YEARS.
WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH WHAT WE CAN AND WITH WHAT WE PRIORITIZE.
I LOOK AT THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY ON PAGES 106, 107,108, 109, THAT SHOWS THE SHORT, MID, LONG TERM PROJECTS.
THOSE CIP PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING BEYOND, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE OPERATIONAL LOGIC WILL BE FOR THAT.
YOU AND I HAD SPOKEN BEFORE HOW MY PRIORITIZATION WITH MY EXPERIENCES IN PARKS, WHICH WILL LOOK DIFFERENT FROM YOURS, AND THINKING OF JTAA AND OTHERS WOULD BE I WOULD WANT TO PRIORITIZE CAPACITY.
LAND IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO TO EXPAND CAPACITY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIGHTING FEATURES.
THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, BUT THERE'S NEWER TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BETTER ABLE TO DIRECT LIGHTING AND DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT REACHING OUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND REALLY CONSIDERING LIGHTING AT LIGHTHOUSE PARK, MAPLEWOOD PARK, JUPITER VILLAGE, POTENTIALLY, THAT ALLOWS OUR FIELDS TO BE USED FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH GIVES US MORE CAPACITY WITHOUT NEEDING MORE LAND.
THAT WOULD RELIEVE SOME PRESSURE, I THINK, FROM THE NUMBER OF USERS WE SEE ON THOSE FIELDS AND COURTS, SO LIGHTED TENNIS.
LIGHTING TO ME WOULD BE A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT EXPANDS CAPACITY.
SHADE IS ANOTHER THING THAT MAY EXPAND CAPACITY.
I LOOKED AT OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE.
IN OUR PICKLEBALL LEVEL OF SERVICE IS LIKE ONE QUART PER 9,000 OR SO WE'RE DOING VERY WELL THERE.
TENNIS IS ONE PER 4,000 AND WE'VE FALLEN SHORT A LITTLE BIT.
I WOULD NOT BE IN SUPPORT OF REPLACING A TENNIS COURT WITH A PICKLEBALL COURT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE.
IT COULD BE ADDING PICKLEBALL COURTS IN FUTURE YEARS, WHICH I SEE HERE.
IT COULD BE SHADING THEM TO EXTEND THEIR USE OR LIGHTING THEM TO EXTEND THEIR USE.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE DISCUSSION OF HOW CAN WE ADD CAPACITY WITHOUT BUILDING ALL NEW EVERYTHING THAT MAY BE LOW HANGING FRUIT.
LET'S SEE. NOT REPLACING TENNIS WITH PICKLEBALL CAPACITY.
THEN I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION.
IT'S OFF FROM THIS, BUT WE JUST RECEIVED A TON OF DATA ON RECREATION.
I WONDER ACTUALLY IF IT CHANGED OUR PROGRAMMING OR OUR LOOK AT PROGRAMMING
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AT ALL BECAUSE I LOOKED AT PAGE 37 AND FISHING IS WILDLY POPULAR.DO WE HAVE ENOUGH FISHING PROGRAMMING FOR THIS TOWN BASED ON ITS NUMBER 1 STATUS ACROSS SO MANY AGE GROUPS? I'M CURIOUS.
NOT SYSTEM FACILITIES, BUT IN OUR EFFICIENCIES AND PROGRAMMING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS, ARE WE LOOKING AT ANYTHING PROGRAMMING-RELATED OR HAVE WE LEARNED ANYTHING ABOUT OUR PROGRAMMING THROUGH THIS?
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK A CONSTANT EVALUATION OF OUR PROGRAMS IS ALWAYS HAPPENING.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SO MUCH DATA AT HAND THROUGH SUCH A COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT PUT YOURSELF UNDER A MICROSCOPE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL AREAS OF GROWTH, ESPECIALLY FROM A PROGRAMMING STANDPOINT.
YES, THERE IS PROBABLY AREAS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON, AND I'VE ALREADY BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH KRISTEN, WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, THAT WE WILL BE EVALUATING THAT.
>> IN SHORT, MY BIGGEST AREAS OF FOCUS WOULD BE ON THIS IMPLEMENTATION PRIORITIES.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON TONIGHT IN TERMS OF THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.
IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THE SHORT, MEDIUM, AND LONG TERM PROJECTS LIST.
I'M THRILLED TO SEE ARTIFICIAL TURF FOR JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK IN THE SHORT AND MID TERM.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE MAYOR HAS A POINT WITH COMPARING THAT WITH OUR CIP SCRUB.
I WOULD RECOMMEND GIVING DIRECTION THAT THIS PLAN INCORPORATE THAT CIP DISCUSSION AS WELL.
MAYBE WE HOLD OFF ON FORMALLY ADOPTING THIS.
IT COULD BE SOME SHORT THING AFTER THE CIP, JUST SO EVERYTHING GOES TOGETHER AND IS THOUGHTFULLY DISCUSSED.
>> LOOKING AT THIS, LET'S DO IT AFTER THE CIP.
LET'S DISCUSS THIS TONIGHT, LET'S DISCUSS CIP, LET'S MARRY THE TWO, AND THEN WE'LL FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
MY PRIORITIES WOULD BE MOVE UP SPORTS LIGHTING AT LIGHTHOUSE PARK.
BUT AGAIN, THAT IS GOING TO HAVE CERTAIN CONCERNS.
THE TIMELINE ON THAT COULD BE LONG IN MAPLEWOOD, VICE MAYOR, YOU LIVE OVER THERE.
>> DO YOU WANT TO HEAR BASEBALL BATS AT 10:00 PM, I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT THE RESIDENTS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE RESIDENT INPUT.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT ALL OF THAT, BUT THE GENERAL PROGRAM LOGIC FOR ME IS, HOW CAN WE EXPAND CAPACITY WITH THIS QUE, MORE QUICKLY DONE ITEMS POTENTIALLY OR LESS EXPENSIVE ITEMS AND THEN WORK ON THE QUALITY OR DO BOTH IN A WAY AND PUSH BACK OTHER THINGS LIKE SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY'S RECREATION MASTER PLAN, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE CONCEPTUAL PLANS FOR ALL THE PARKS IN THE TOWN, AND THEY'RE ADDING SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS EVERYWHERE.
DO WE NEED TO ADD OURS AT THE SAME TIME? IS THAT GOING TO MEET A NEED WHILE WE CAN BE FOCUSING ON SOMETHING ELSE? I REALLY THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BIGGER PICTURE.
AN VOLLEYBALL COURTS MAY NOT BE MY PRIORITY, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT THEY'RE BEING ADDRESSED ELSEWHERE IN THE TOWN.
THEIR RECREATION PLAN SPEAKS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SPEAKS TO MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL.
LIKE EVEN IN VALENCIA IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE A GREEN.
IT BELONGS TO THE TOWN, BUT MY HOA MAINTAINS IT AND KIDS PLAY SOCCER THERE ALL THE TIME.
YOU HAD SPOKEN TO THAT IN THE PLAN AS WELL, THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PRIVATE, NOT PRIVATE, BUT HOA MANAGE SPACES FOR PEOPLE.
THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING IN ALL OF THEM.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS UPGRADING SOME OF THEIR FIELDS AS WELL.
WHILE THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE TO OUR PUBLIC, WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO PARTNER, AND WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT THAT AND THAT SHOULD BE IN THIS PLAN. WHAT'S AVAILABLE.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE SPECIFICS ON THE JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL.
I KNOW THAT WE'LL BE DOING THAT LATER, BUT WHICH COURTS, WHICH FIELD, IS IT JUST THE TRACK? WHAT ARE THEY USING? A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, I THINK.
THAT'S MY RANT AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THIS.
I MET WITH YOU AND SCOTT REYNOLDS AND TOWN MANAGER.
I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING.
I WOULD AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
LET'S GIVE THIS WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CIP.
I'M STILL GOING THROUGH IT AND PRIORITIZING.
I GUESS MY MAIN PRIORITY IS MULTI USE FIELDS, WHAT THE MOST IMPACT, GET BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK THERE TO START AND OTHER THINGS.
BUT THERE'S A LOT TO DIGEST HERE.
JUST A QUICK. COUNCILOR SAMSON'S COMMENTS ABOUT LIGHTING, OTHER PARKS.
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A HISTORY LESSON MAPLEWOOD.WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL MANY YEARS AGO, RUST SKATE WAS STILL HERE AND HE WAS OUR FORMER DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC AMONG OTHER THINGS.
I WALKED BY HIS OFFICE, SAY, RON, COME, I GET A STORY FOR YOU BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND MAPLEWOOD PARK. IT'S BEAUTIFUL PARK.
I LOVE IT. HE SAID, DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE USED TO BE LIGHTS BEHIND YOUR HOUSE IN MAPLEWOOD? I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I THINK WHEN THEY WERE DEVELOPING LOXAHATCHEE CLUB AT PUBLIC COMMENTS, ONE OF THEIR ATTORNEYS SHOWED UP AND SAID, I HAVE A CHECK FOR $1,000,000 TO THE TOWN IF YOU TAKE THOSE LIGHTS OUT OF MAPLEWOOD PARK.
THE COUNCIL WERE YOU HERE FOR THAT?
>> NO. I DON'T REMEMBER IT COUNCILS.
>> THAT MILLION DOLLARS WENT TO START JCP.
THAT DEAL WAS ALREADY MADE, AND IT'S NOT THAT I LIVED THERE, BUT IT'S LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO BACK ON THAT, BUT EVERYTHING'S UP FOR DISCUSSION.
BUT ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT?
>> I THINK, I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISCUSSION.
MY CURIOSITY AND DISCUSSION AROUND IT WENT TO LOTS CHANGED IN 20 YEARS, INCLUDING TECHNOLOGY AND THE ABILITY TO DIRECT THE LIGHTS, SO THEY AREN'T AS DISTURBING.
BUT THE SOUND MAY BE ANOTHER ISSUE.
BUT IT'S WORTH EXPLORING BECAUSE THE POTENTIAL UPSIDE IS SO BIG, MAYBE.
BUT AGAIN, THE TIMELINE, ALL OF IT.
>> JCP, THAT'S ANOTHER THING IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT OUTDOOR SPACES, BUT INDOOR IS A REALLY BIG DEAL.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND NEW STAFF THAT WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THERE.
THEIR MASTER PLAN SPEAKS TO WEST JUPITER COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THEY DO WANT MAJOR RENOVATIONS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO STRUGGLING WITH FUNDING.
ON PAPER, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY, POTENTIALLY FOR THIS TO BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
THAT SHOULD BE ANOTHER PRIORITY.
I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S MORE DETAIL ON JUPITER COMMUNITY CENTER, WHAT YOU SEE, WHAT ITS NEEDS ARE, WHAT ITS FUTURE COULD BE.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL? BECAUSE I SEE THE CIP AND I SEE WAY OUT IN 35, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE.
>> JUST FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM A LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE TO EXPAND THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE, AND THE TOWN WE FEEL IS BETTER POSITIONED TO DO THAT.
BUT CURRENTLY, IT'S MORE OF AN EVENING ROUTE EVENING CENTER WHERE I BELIEVE JTA ACTUALLY USES THE FACILITY FOR PRACTICES AND WHATNOT, BUT WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY DURING THE DAY THAT WE COULD LEVERAGE PROGRAMMING, MAYBE SENIOR PROGRAMMING OR SHIFT PROGRAMMING FROM THE COMMUNITY CENTER HERE AT THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX OVER TO THE WEST JUPITER COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THAT EXPANDS AND OPENS THE FOOTPRINT LOCALLY.
THERE'S LOTS OF OPTIONS, LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
>> IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. THE MULTIPURPOSE GYM FLOOR, THAT THAT'S COMING FORWARD VERY QUICKLY.
I THINK THAT WILL REALLY ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD AND SEEN.
SOME OF IT'S NOT NECESSARILY STUFF THAT RESIDENTS WOULD NOTICE.
BUT THAT IS, THE AUDITORIUM FLOOR, ALL OF THAT. THANK YOU.
>> I WANT TO JUST ADD, PARTICULARLY NOW INTERJECT FOR THE BENEFIT, PARTICULARLY FOR NEWER MEMBERS, AND I'LL STILL GO BACK THE VICE MAYOR, BUT I THINK THIS IS UNDERLYING AND IT'S IMPORTANT.
IS AGAIN, THIS WAS AN INCREDIBLE EFFORT.
I HAVE THE BENEFIT OF KNOWING HOW THE PLAN HOW THE TOWN HAS BEEN PLANNING.
IT'S DOESN'T REALLY COME OUT OF THE DOCUMENTS.
I WANT TO JUST POINT THIS OUT.
FIRST OF ALL, LEVEL OF SERVICE, AND I'M LOOKING AT SECTION 3.2.1 AND IT'S ON PAGE 76 IN THE ORIGINAL DRAFT, SO IT MIGHT HAVE MOVED A FEW PAGES WITH THE CHANGES.
BUT I JUST CAN'T OVER EMPHASIZE THAT I'M GOING TO ASK A REQUEST TO STAFF, AND IT'S AN OPEN ITEM TO COME BACK.
THIS PROCESS SHOULD ENABLE CHANGING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS.
WE SHOULDN'T BE JUDGING AGAINST STANDARDS THAT WERE SET IN THE PAST.
I CAN'T OVER EMPHASIZE THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN EMBRACED THE COM PLAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE MORE THAN ANYBODY EVER DOES, BUT IT CHANGES.
I THINK WHEN PICKLEBALL BECAME SO POPULAR, WE REDEPLOYED FIELDS THE PICKLEBALL.
KNOWINGLY, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP IN ROLLER HOCKEY, I PEN TO KNOW THAT WE HAD KIDS COME TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING ASKING FOR ROLLER HOCKEY.
WHAT THE NUMBER THAT GET PUT IN THERE IS HOW MANY ROLLER HOCKEY,
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IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE, HOW MANY ROLLER HOCKEY RANKS WE HAD.THESE ARE ALL JUDGMENTAL THINGS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN NOW IF WE REDEPLOYED IT, WE MADE A JUDGMENT THAT WE COULD DO WITHOUT IT, DO A HIGHER PRIORITY.
I DO BELIEVE THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF TRACK, BUT I THINK WE REDEPLOYED SOME TENNIS COURTS TO PICKLEBALL COURTS, AS AN EXAMPLE.
I THINK IT'S TIME TO RESET THAT. NO, UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT MY POINT WAS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A SHORTFALL IF YOU USE THIS, PLUS THERE'S A COMPLICATION BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR FIELDS ARE USED BY 50% OF THE FIELD USAGE IS OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A COMPLICATED THING.
BUT WHAT IT SHOULD DO IS SET THE RATIOS, IF YOU WILL OF WHAT PERCENTAGE SHOULD BE TENNIS COURTS VERSUS PICKLE COURTS WE HAVE DONE IT OVER THE YEARS, BUT THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN EFFORT LIKE THIS.
THIS SHOULD BE AN OUTCOME AND SO NOT NEGATIVE, BUT DISAPPOINTED LIKE THAT WASN'T FLAGGED, SO I'M FLAGGING IT BECAUSE TO JUDGE AGAINST A CRITERIA THAT WAS DATED THE LAST TIME WE UPDATED IT AND DIDN'T HAVE THE EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF THE LAST TWO YEARS OF PUBLIC INPUT.
I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO COME BACK AND PROPOSE, CHANGES, AND WE'LL DO THAT IN SOME MEETING BECAUSE WE SHOULD.
BUT I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, SO NOBODY'S TAKEN TOO LITTLE.
WE GOT TO DO TWO MORE HERE BECAUSE IT SAYS SO HERE.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS IF YOU LOOK, AND IT ALSO GOES TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS IF YOU GO BACK 2025 YEARS BACK WE REALIZED WE HAD A TOWN THAT WAS GOING TO BE REALLY GROWING AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT CERTAIN AND THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY CENTER IS 20, IT'S OVER 20 YEARS.
BUT I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS PUT IN AND WE KNEW THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT TO THIS DAY, SO THEN ALL THE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS, FOR EXAMPLE, MOST OF THEM GOT CLUBHOUSES.
WE KNEW THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND IT DOES TO THIS DAY, GETS USED BY ASSOCIATIONS FOR THEIR ANNUAL MEETINGS AND SUCH, WHEREAS THOSE THAT HAVE CLUBHOUSES DON'T.
I JUST USE AS AN EXAMPLE, EVEN SOMETHING LIKE ONE OF THE USES IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND WE ALSO KNEW THAT THERE'S THE SCHOOLS AND WHATEVER THAT COULD BE USED.
THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT USE IS A BALL ONE THAT WE NEVER INTENDED TO ENTIRELY PROVIDE OURSELVES.
THEN I'LL GO TO THE RECREATIONAL TO THE PLAYGROUNDS AS AN EXAMPLE.
IT'S INTERESTING IF YOU LOOK IN AND AGAIN, ON PAGE 81, BUT IT MAY HAVE MOVED ON WALKABILITY OF TOWN PARKS.
I THINK IT'S MISLEADING AND IT DESERVES A FOOTNOTE AND I SAY THAT NOT TO CRITICIZE BECAUSE I LOOK AT THIS IN THE NORTH END OF THE TOWN, THE ONLY PLACE THAT THERE'S A WALKABILITY ISSUE, ACCORDING TO THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE TWO PARKS THAT WE HAVE.
I DO THINK WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT WHERE THE GAPS ARE, SO THE GAPS QUITE FRANKLY ARE EXPLAINABLE BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM, NOT ALL OF THEM, WERE REMEDIED WHEN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS HELPING TO DRIVE WHAT AMENITIES NEEDED TO BE PROVIDED.
PARTICULARLY IN THE WAY OF PLAYGROUNDS, I JUST WANT TO SHARE IN COMMUNITY SPACE, MEETING SPACE, THAT WAS PLANNED AND WE NEVER WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED AND NEVER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SET ASIDE LAND OR WHATEVER.
THOSE TWO THINGS TO SOME DEGREE, NEED TO BE FOOTNOTED.
BECAUSE IN THE END, WHAT THE TOWN NEEDED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COMMUNITY HAD THE FACILITIES THAT THEY NEEDED, SO WE WERE TRYING TO EQUALIZE, IF YOU WILL.
YOU DON'T SEE ABACOA IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THE MOST PART, NEIGHBORHOODS TO HAVE MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN THERE.
AGAIN, I'M JUST LAYING THIS OUT BECAUSE IT'S FUNDAMENTAL TO THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT SO AGAIN, I WOULD SUBMIT A FOOTNOTE IS IN ORDER.
MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DON'T HAVE A WALKABILITY ISSUE. IT'S INTERESTING.
MY GRANDDAUGHTER, I HAVE A 28 MONTH OLD GRANDDAUGHTER AND MY DAUGHTER MOVED FROM MALLORY CREEK TO THE SHORES.
JUST LIKE SHE USED TO WALK TO THE PLAYGROUND IN MALLORY CREEK, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES IT'S A LOT.
I'VE DONE A LOT OF THEM WITH HER.
MOVE TO GO TO THE PLAYGROUND, NO DIFFERENT THAN WHERE WE HAVE TOWN PARKS.
>> I WONDER I AGREE WITH THAT.
I REMEMBER AN EARLIER DISCUSSION WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT,
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THERE'S A NATIONAL STANDARD OF PARKS.>> THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION.
THEY CREATE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS.
>> THEY CREATE A LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARD. I AGREE.
>> BUT THIS WAS JUST DONE FOR TOWN AND I'M NOT CRITICIZING, SO THAT'S A SHORTFALL.
IF WE MAKE SURE WE'RE INVENTORYING AND FOOTNOTING, THAT WE KNEW THE REASON WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE SHORES OR THESE OTHER AREAS, WE MAY FIND THERE'S SOME WE NEED TO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE OUGHT TO AT LEAST SAY, BUT THEY HAVE THE AMENITIES.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A STANDARD EARLIER ON THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE NATIONAL PARKS THAT YOU NEED SO MANY COMMUNITY GARDENS, AND THE TOWN DOES NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL TOWN COMMUNITY GARDEN.
BUT YOU HAVE OTHERS THAT DO INCLUDING IN ABACOA.
YOU'VE GOT THE ABACOA COMMUNITY GARDEN THAT ANYONE CAN JOIN.
THAT NEED IN THE COMMUNITY IS BEING MET JUST NOT SPECIFICALLY BY THIS SPECIFIC SERVICE PROVIDER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO AS WELL, AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A PLAYGROUND THAT WE USE, THAT'S NOT A TOWN PLAYGROUND, BUT IT DOES HELP MEET A LEVEL OF SERVICE.
I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS A ONE STOP SHOP DOCUMENT, A COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT, IS IT WORTH INVENTORYING ANY OF THAT?
>> AS A MINIMUM, IT NEEDS TO BE FOOTNOTED.
SOMEONE THAT LIKE SOMEONE WE'RE MOVING IN SHORES DOESN'T KNOW WHAT I KNOW SAYING, GEE, WELL, WHY AM I LEFT OUT? WELL, YOU'RE NOT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT.
BECAUSE IT TRULY WAS PLANNED BY TOWN STAFF, RIGHT KNEW THAT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IT'S SOMEWHAT KIND OF COMPLICATED, BUT IT IS THOSE THINGS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN.
WE DIDN'T ORIGINALLY HAVE A A PLAYGROUND IN THE SHORES WHEN I MOVED IN THERE, BUT WE RETROFITTED ONE, WE DON'T HAVE A SHADE STRUCTURE AND DON'T NEED ONE BECAUSE IT'S A NICE TREE AREA SHADED.
>> ANOTHER GOOD POINT THOUGH IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN.
PICKLEBALL IS UP PLUS 50% A YEAR.
WE HAVE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE BEING SEVEN QUARTS, AND WE HAVE 23, WE'RE MORE THAN EXCEEDING IT.
I HAD RAISED THAT IN THE ONE ON ONE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY AMENDED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ADD PICKLEBALL.
IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN, SO WE FIXED IT.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT YEAR THESE WERE CREATED.
THEY MAY HAVE DIFFERENT YEARS.
WHEN WAS TENNIS PUT AT ONE PER FOUR OR ONE PER SIX FOR BASEBALL? THEY MAY BE DIFFERENT YEARS, THE RULER HOCKEY.
>> MOST OF THEM ARE REALLY DATED. I JUST TELL YOU THAT.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY WERE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE CURRENT NEED IS MOST DON'T BE INFLUENCED BY THAT.
JUST LOOK AT WHERE WE HAVE GAP STILL.
>> BUT ALSO IN SPECIFIC BECAUSE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE THEIR OWN TENNIS COURTS.
WITH THAT AWARENESS, WHAT IS THE RIGHT SIZE FOR JUPITER AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? I THINK THAT'S WORTH LOOKING AT.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHEN THEY WERE PUT IN PLACE.
>> I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT OPINION SHOULD BE IN HERE, RIGHT ABOUT THAT AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN WHIP OUT IN A WEEK, BUT YOU WANT TO REFLECT ABOUT IT, AND COME BACK AND SO THEN IT'S MEANINGFUL THAT WE'VE TOOK A TWO YEAR EFFORT, AND IT TRULY LEADS INTO ADJUSTING CAPACITY AND RECOGNIZING WE THERE TRULY IS A CAPACITY SHORTFALL.
JUST TO THAT POINT, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE COMMENTS THAT THE STUFF I WAS GIVEN THE CIP WAS AND I APPRECIATE YOU INCREASED CAPACITY BY MAKING IT MORE USABLE. YES.
>> BUT IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDING FIELDS, THAT'S AN EXPENSE.
I THOUGHT THAT THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS IN PARTICULAR, WE'VE BEEN HEARING THAT FOR YEARS.
I JUST THINK THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY COUNT THEM AS IN THE FIELD AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE RENOVATING THEM, YOU LOSE THEM FOR A BIT OF TIME.
I JUST WAS ADVOCATING TO GET STARTED ON THAT SOONER OR LATER.
YOU MAY SAY IT'S NOT ADDING CAPACITY, BUT IT'S ADDING BETTER QUALITY WHICH IS A PRIORITY.
>> IT'S THE PRIORITY, I WOULD SAY.
>> I THINK IT IS. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE CIP MEETING.
EVERYBODY YOU CAN WEIGH IN TONIGHT ON HOW YOU SEE THE PRIORITY, AND THEN FROM THAT, IT'LL LEAD INTO THE CIP, BUT I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT.
THEN TAKE ONE LIKE LIGHTHOUSE AS AN EXAMPLE.
THEY HAD IN YEAR 7 OR 6 LIGHTHOUSE TO RENOVATE AND EXPAND THE RESTROOM AS AN EXAMPLE.
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BUT EXPANDING IS EXPENSIVE AND IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE IN SEVEN YEARS, SEEMS TO ME LET'S DO A LOW COST RENOVATION.>> MAYOR, ACTUALLY, I DID FIND OUT.
I REMEMBER YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.
IT HAS BEEN RENOVATED RECENTLY.
THE PARKS TEAM HAS ADDRESSED THAT ALONG WITH JUPITER VILLAGE, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS ALSO RENOVATED.
>> FINE, BUT THAT'S THE POINT. RENOVATIONS, IF THEY'RE NEEDED, AND STAFF WOULD KNOW THAT BETTER THAN US UNLESS WE HAPPEN TO HAVE BEEN THERE, IS AS OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL YOU DO A BIG EXPANSION.
LET'S BOOST IT UP WHERE YOU CAN QUICKLY AND COST EFFECTIVELY.
>> ONE MORE POINT. COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM REFERENCED INDOOR GYM SPACE.
I THINK EVER SINCE I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS IN A GIRLS VOLLEYBALL, WE HAVE A MAJOR DEFICIT OF INDOOR GYM SPACE FOR BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL AND OTHER FUNCTIONS.
BUT THE COST OF THAT, WE'VE LOOKED AT MAYBE DOING IT ON THIS CAMPUS AT ONE POINT, WE WOULDN'T DO THE WHOLE CAMPUS, POLICE STATION, TOWN HALL, MAYBE GYM SPACE AT ONCE, BUT WE DID IT IN PIECES.
BUT I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THE COUNTY'S FACILITY ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THAT MIGHT BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING TO EXPAND THAT, BUT WE REALLY NEED MORE INDOOR SPACE.
>> I KNOW, BUT THAT'S ONE OF MY PRIORITIES, BUT AGAIN, IT'S COST.
IT'S A BIGGIE, BUT I WOULD PIGGYBACK ON THAT ONE.
THAT'S IT. LIKE I SAID, A GREAT DOCUMENT, A LOT OF WORK, AND WE HAD A GREAT MEETING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, SO MOVE IT ON.
>> I WON'T BELABOR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND I AGREE THIS IS A 10 YEAR PLAN, LOOK SEE THING.
AGREE, MARRY IT UP WITH THE CIPS.
BUT PRIORITIES, I LOOK AT THINGS NOW A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY IN AGE DEMOGRAPHICS FOR OUR FIELDS.
NOT SO MUCH THE PARKS, I THINK THE PARKS, WE'VE GOT THEM DISPERSED THROUGHOUT.
BUT FIELDS, WE'VE GOT 40, 50, 60-YEAR-OLD PEOPLE OUT THERE PLAYING BASKETBALL.
MAXIMIZING ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, I THINK, WE REALLY SHOULD ADDRESS.
TECHNOLOGY, YOU'VE NAILED IT WHEN YOU SAID, LIGHTLY.
HOW CAN WE MAXIMIZE MAPLEWOOD PARK WITHOUT OFFENDING THE NEIGHBORS? HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE TECHNOLOGY SO THAT IF YOU DO HAVE FOLKS THAT WANT TO PLAY BASKETBALL AT NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THEY CAN DO IT WITHOUT OFFENDING.
PARKING OVER AT LIGHTHOUSE PARK, THAT WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER.
AGAIN, COST EFFECTIVE-WISE, HOW CAN WE MAXIMIZE GETTING MORE FAMILIES? FAMILIES ARE HERE FOR QUALITY OF LIFE.
IF THEY GET TO THE PARK AND THEY CAN'T GET THE CHILDREN OUT OF THE CAR TO GET TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO ON THE FIELD BECAUSE THE PARKING IS AN ISSUE, ARE WE REALLY DOING THE PARK JUSTICE IF WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION? AGAIN, THE SYNERGY OF THE FAMILY, SPREADING IT OUT, GIVING EVERYONE IN THE FAMILY THAT OPPORTUNITY TO USE WHAT WE HAVE THERE'S SO MANY GREAT IDEAS COMING OUT OF HERE, BUT I CAN SEE IT NEEDS TO MARRY UP WITH CIPS.
IT REALLY DOES. I WON'T GO INTO, BUT THEY'VE ALL HAD GREAT CONCEPTS, GREAT IDEAS.
MAXIMIZING HAS TO BE SOME WAY TO LOOK AT IT WHERE COST EFFECTIVENESS GOES ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> I AGREE. WE HAD JUST RECENTLY BEEN TO A PRESENTATION WITH YOU AT 6:00 PM, AND WE HAD HEARD ABOUT PARKING AT LIGHTHOUSE BEING AN ISSUE WHEN SOCCER IS IN PLAY ON SATURDAYS.
THERE'S NO PROJECTS HERE, BUT TO HAVE A PLAN OR A CONCEPT THE WAY THAT IT HAS OTHERS COULD BE A START SOMEWHERE.
>> MY TURN? I DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF A LOT OF YOUR PAST KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE RELATIVE TO THE PLANNING.
BUT I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SENIOR DIRECTOR AND DID ANSWER A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE A FEW MORE BASED ON THE DETAILED REVIEW OF THE PLAN ITSELF, BUT I'LL SHARE WITH THOSE LATER.
THEY'RE JUST MAINLY COMMENTS, BUT I DID GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE PRIORITIES.
WHAT WERE MY PRIORITIES, WHAT I THOUGHT WE SHOULD ADDRESS.
OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE BIG ITEMS FOR ME IS A HIGH MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT, FACILITIES AND FIELDS WHICH TRANSLATE TO HIGHER COST TO THE TOWN TO MAINTAIN.
MY QUESTION YOU ARE HIGH MAINTENANCE COSTS ON EQUIPMENT AND FACILITIES PRIORITIZED FOR RENOVATION OR REPLACEMENT IN THIS PLAN? I SAW A LOT OF DETAIL WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO VARIOUS THINGS, BUT WHERE THOSE COST IMPACT, IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE COST MORE TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING IS THE REPLACE IT OR RENOVATE IT.
I JUST WANT THOSE CONSIDERED IN THE PLAN.
>> ABSOLUTELY. DEFINITELY THE COST IMPACT OF WHAT WE'RE MAINTAINING RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN, BUT THEY ARE DUE FOR RENOVATION.
WE HIGHLY UNDERSTAND THAT MAINTAINING THOSE FIELDS REQUIRES A LOT OF DEDICATION AND KUDOS TO OUR PARK STAFF.
THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB MAINTAINING THE FIELDS,
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BUT IT DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF TIME AND ATTENTION.I THINK THE TURF FIELDS ARE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLANS, I THINK IT HAS A HANDFUL OF TURF FIELDS AND SEVERAL DIFFERENT PARKS.
THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE AND FREE UP SOME STAFF TIME AND CREATE SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES TO FOCUS AND BE MORE FOCUSED ON MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE.
OBVIOUSLY, FROM ALL YOUR WORKSHOPS AND MEETING IN THE SURVEYS, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WAS OBVIOUSLY SHADED FACILITIES, WHETHER IT BE BLEACHERS OR PLAYGROUNDS.
TO ME, THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE SHADE STRUCTURE IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GETTING ANY COOLER IN FLORIDA, IT'S GETTING A LOT WARMER.
I REMEMBER SITTING COACHING EITHER SOFTBALL OR WATCHING GAMES, HOW HOT THOSE AREAS CAN BE BEHIND HOME PLATE AND THOSE BLEACHERS.
I VERY MUCH ENCOURAGE AS SOON AS WE CAN MAYBE EXPEDITE THE ADDITION OF SHADED AREAS FOR THESE PARKS.
BACK TO WHAT COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM'S STAND, NUMBER OF MY PRIORITIES WAS IMPROVED AND ADDED LIGHTING, ESPECIALLY FOR CAPACITY AND ALSO PUBLIC SAFETY.
OBVIOUSLY, PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE BIG ISSUE, SO WE GO TO MAKE SURE WE GOT FOLKS THERE AT NIGHT THAT THEY'RE SECURE AND THEY HAVE GOOD LIGHTING.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS AND I APPLAUD THE TOWN FOR THE CONNECTIVITY AS FAR AS THE TRAILS AND CONNECTING WITH THE PARKING. I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF OUR ELDER POPULATION SPENT A LOT OF TIME WALKING, SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO GET OUT IN OUR PARKS AND BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND.
I DID A ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT I APPLAUD YOU FOR AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IS A LUCITY?
>> YEAH, ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
>> THAT'S THE ASSET LIFECYCLE MANAGEMENT TOOL THAT YOU'VE GUYS HAVE INCORPORATED.
I KNOW YOU PLAN ON RUNNING A PILOT PROGRAM WITH THAT TOOL.
BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF THROUGH HIRING AN INTERN OR MAYBE A TEMP WORKER TO TAKE ALL THE DATA WE HAVE AND DUMP IN THAT TOOL BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY POWERFUL TOOL.
IT'LL FORECAST WHAT THE LIFECYCLE OF OUR VARIOUS EQUIPMENT FIELDS ARE.
WHEN DO WE HAVE TO START PLANNING FOR REPLACEMENT AND INCLUDE THAT IN OUR CIP BUDGET ON A YEARLY BASIS.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TOOL, AND WHAT ARE WE CAN DO TO START IMPORTING ALL THE DATA WE HAVE AND NOT JUST THE PILOT PROGRAM INTO THAT TOOL FOR ALL OF OUR PARKS, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL IN THE FUTURE.
>> WE HAVE A BRAND NEW PARK SUPERINTENDENT THAT'S GOING TO BE STARTING THIS UPCOMING MONDAY, SO VERY EXCITED TO TASK HIM WITH LOOKING AT OPERATING SOFTWARE AND POTENTIALLY LEVERAGING THAT.
>> GREAT. THAT'S GOOD NEWS, SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
ONE THING, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS REGARDING THE JUPITER COMMUNITY CENTER, THE ROOF, ITS STATE OF REPAIR AND EVERYTHING.
ALSO THE WINDOWS AND THE HVAC SYSTEM.
ARE THESE SYSTEMS EXPECTED TO LAST ANOTHER THREE YEARS? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY PLAN JUST IN CASE WE HAVE TO MOVE IN EARLIER TO DO REPAIRS OR REPLACEMENT?
>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE ENGINEERING TEAM WITH.
I KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS NOT HERE WITH THE TOWN, THAT THEY DID DO SOME PATCHWORK IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS TO TRY AND GET BY TO WHAT WE NEED.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY CAN EVALUATE WITH THE ENGINEERING TEAM AND COME UP WITH A CONTINGENCY PLAN AND ALSO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FACING FROM OUR CURRENT ISSUES.
>> ONE LAST THING, I LIKE HOW YOU LAID OUT THE MASTER PLAN VISION FOR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, UTILIZE AND REVITALIZE, CONNECT, EXPAND, AND ALSO ENHANCE REGARDING THE TOWN'S ACCESS TO INDOOR AND OUTDOOR REC FACILITIES OWNED AND OPERATED EITHER BY THE COUNTY OR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
HAS THE TOWN MADE ANY HEADWAY ADVANCING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THESE ENTITIES?
>> AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THE JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL WAS ASKED TO BE PUT ON PAUSE UNTIL WE'VE DEVELOPED THE JTA ATHLETIC POLICY, WHICH WE ARE FIRMLY ESTABLISHING HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT FINALIZING THOSE DETAILS OF THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, AND COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM, WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT AGREEMENT WITH YOU AS WELL, AND WITH COUNCIL.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE REMITS ON THE AQUATIC COMPLEX AND ALSO THE WEST JUPITER RECREATION?
>> THE AQUATIC COMPLEX, WE WERE IN DISCUSSION WITH BOB HAMILTON.
HE IS THE CIP DIRECTOR OR THE DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
WE WERE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY TO DEVELOP A SPLASH PAD AT THE AQUATIC CENTER.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY HAD FUNDING TO RENOVATE THE POOL AREA, BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDING TO TRANSITION THAT KIDDIE POOL AREA INTO A SPLASH PAD, WHICH THEY FELT WOULD BE MORE CONDUCIVE FOR THE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S WHERE THE TOWN OF JUPITER WAS GOING TO STEP IN.
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BUT MY LAST CONVERSATION WITH HIM IS THAT HE WANTED TO GET THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS BEFORE THEY COMMIT TO ANYTHING AND BEFORE THEY COME HERE AND SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THOSE PLANS.OBVIOUSLY, THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOR THAT INITIAL PROJECT, I'M SURE, IS APPROPRIATELY FUNDED.
>> LASTLY, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S GOT THE RIGHT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
ALSO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAD ALL THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS INPUT TO IT.
A NICE JOB ALL AROUND BY THE ENTIRE TEAM. THANK YOU.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
>> SORRY. JUST WANTED TO RAISE TWO MORE POINTS AS I WAS LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUE.
ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO FLAG HERE, RAISE POTENTIALLY IS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THE PLAYGROUNDS.
WE WILL BE DOING ALL THE PLAYGROUNDS OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
WE'RE DOING SOME OF THE BIGGEST ONES NOW.
WE REALLY HAVE RELIEVED A LOT OF PRESSURE AND A LOT OF FAMILIES ARE ABOUT TO ENJOY THESE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS THE SAME DESIRE TO RENOVATE SOME IMMEDIATELY OR COMPREHENSIVELY.
EACH PLAYGROUND IS VERY DIFFERENT.
EACH OF THESE FACILITIES IS VERY DIFFERENT.
WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
WE HAVE COLLECTED INPUT, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS ONE TIME SNAPSHOT IN THE BEGINNING AND THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AGAIN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
WE'VE LEARNED THAT THESE ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S IMPORTANT.
I'VE REALLY LIKED THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU PUT OUT WITH A QR CODE IN ADVANCE, AND THEN YOU'RE GETTING FEEDBACK THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND THROUGH THE QR CODE.
WE SHOULD DO THAT IN ADVANCE OF ANY DESIGN OR PLANNING, JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE POSSIBLE AND EASY.
BUT I THINK ABOUT CAPACITY AGAIN IS JUST WEIGHING HEAVILY ON MY MIND.
WE USED TO HAVE A FITNESS CENTER ON TOWN HALL.
HERE AT TOWN HALL BEFORE THE NEW BUILDING, WE HAD A FITNESS CENTER.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF GROUPS THAT ENJOY THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE IT NOW, TO MY KNOWLEDGE IN THE TOWN.
IT WAS PROPOSED AT CINQUEZ PARK I SEE IN THIS PLAN.
I WORRY SOMETHING TO PUSH BACK, SOMETHING TO ADD, MAY BE SOMETHING LIKE REINTRODUCING A FITNESS CENTER AT CINQUEZ PARK, SO THAT THERE IS THAT CAPACITY FOR PEOPLE AND MAYBE PUSHING BACK A PLAYGROUND WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE MORE TIME, FOR EXAMPLE, OLD TOWN HALL, I REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT'S A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE ALWAYS SAID THEY MIGHT JUST WANT A FRESH COAT OF PAINT ON THAT.
[LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DESIRE IS GOING TO BE, BUT I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A RUSH TO CHANGE THAT AREA.
IT MIGHT WARRANT A DISCUSSION WHERE YOU TRADE THAT OUT.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
>> I WILL MENTION THERE ARE FOUR PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE BEING DESIGNED FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
WE ARE APPROACHING 100% ON CONSTRUCTION DESIGN.
WE WOULD COME, I KNOW FROM THE LAST TOWN COUNCIL MEETING WHEN I CAME AND PRESENTED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT A PRESENTATION WAS ASKED TO BE GIVEN, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY SCHEDULE THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
>> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE SHARED SOME OF THOSE PLANS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOU'VE GOTTEN INPUT, SO THAT'S BEEN GREAT. THANK YOU.
>> THREE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS LEFT THAT I HAD WHEN I CAME HERE, BUT I'VE BEEN PICKING FROM MY LIST.
FIRST OF ALL, AND THE FIRST TWO MAY NOT MAKE ME POPULAR, BUT I'M UP HERE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC.
THE MAPLEWOOD PARK LIGHTING, I HAD HEARD SOME HEARSAY ABOUT THAT, BUT I'D RATHER WE APPROACH THESE THINGS, ASSUMING THERE'S NO WALLS CONSTRAINING US, CONFINING US, SAYING I KNOW I'M SURE WITH OTHERS, BUT THAT I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO FROM SOMEBODY THAT WAS MY MENTOR.
THE WALLS THAT WE PERCEIVE ARE THE WALLS THAT CONFINE US.
I DON'T PERCEIVE ANY MORE WALLS.
UNTIL I'M PROVEN OTHERWISE, AND IT MAY HAPPEN VERY QUICK BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING UP ABOUT THIS, WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER LIGHTING MAPLEWOOD PARK BECAUSE YOU STILL WOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE YOU WOULD BE GETTING PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT IT.
I KNOW YOU SAID THAT RUSS SHARED THAT BACKGROUND, BUT THAT MILLION DOLLARS SPARED LIGHTING THERE FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE MAY EVEN HAVE MOVED ON.
BUT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT MAXIMIZING OUR FACILITIES.
I JUST WOULDN'T HAVE WEIGHED IN AS OPPOSED TO NOT HAVING SPOKE UP.
I'D ASK, AND OFTENTIMES THERE'S SOMEBODY ON STAFF OR A TOWN ATTORNEY MAY REMEMBER THE HISTORY ON THAT, NOT TO GET IN DISCUSSION HERE.
BUT THE WHOLE THING IS, AS HAS BEEN SAID BY OTHERS HERE TONIGHT IS TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE USE.
WHILE THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT 20 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, DEFERRED IT BEING DONE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE,
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UNLESS SOMEONE TELLS ME OTHERWISE, WE STAY CONSTRAINED BY THAT.>> NO, I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO HAVE SAID IT ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL.
I KNOW EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE THEN UNLESS SOMEONE TELLS US OTHERWISE.
>> THERE'S SOME LIGHTING THERE NOW. THE BASKETBALL COURTS ARE LIT, I THINK AT 10:00, AND THE RACKETBALL COURTS [INAUDIBLE].
NOW THAT WE'RE BUILT OUT AND CONSTRAINED TO THE DEGREE, THERE'S ANY FIELDS THAT WE COULD MAKE MORE AVAILABLE, IT BEHOOVES US.
THAT WAS ONE. THEN THE FITNESS CENTER AND IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL MANY YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T FOCUS ON FITNESS CENTER.
THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME TOOK THE POSITION THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVATE FITNESS CENTERS.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO THINK BECAUSE WITH LIMITED MONEY, DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? I'M NOT SAYING WE MEAN TO NOT DECIDE NOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE A FITNESS CENTER BECAUSE THERE'S A BUNCH OF FITNESS CENTERS IN TOWN AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO COMPETING, IF YOU WILL, ON THAT.
THEN I THINK I HAD ONE MORE HERE.
I DO THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE A POLICY OF SORTS, WHAT PARK TYPE WE USE.
>> DO WE FEEL WE OUGHT TO HAVE RESTROOMS? IN MY OPINION, I'M ALWAYS SAYING THIS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY.
GEE, IT'D BE NICE TO DO A LOT OF STUFF, BUT A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAYGROUND IN THEORY IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, AND THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN HISTORICALLY IS, YOU GO BACK HOME, AND WE HAVEN'T PUT RESTROOMS IN THERE.
WHEN A PARK GETS LIKE AN INDIAN CREEK TO WHERE IT'S VIEWED AS A FLAGSHIP ONE OR WHATEVER, THAT'S A LARGER ONE, IT'S DRAWING PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT WALKING THERE AND THEN DOING A RESTROOM.
MAYBE THERE WAS A COUPLE THAT THERE WAS A SUGGESTION ABOUT RESTROOMS, AND I CAN LEARN OTHERWISE AND CHANGE MY MIND, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO RETROFITTING THOSE.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT, BUT WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE DISTRACTING US FROM DOING OTHER HIGHER PRIORITY NEEDS.
THAT HASN'T BEEN ESTABLISHED TO CRITERIA.
I JUST WOULD ASK STAFF COULD THINK ABOUT THAT AND WE COULD MAKE SOME POLICY DECISION BASED ON HOW YOU WOULD ARTICULATE IT, RIGHT.
I SEE THAT TONIGHT THERE'S A CONSENSUS WE KNOW THAT IT'S ALL ON OUR MIND THAT IN THE CIP WORK-SHOPPING AND THE BUDGET PLAN THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THIS FIVE-YEAR CIP.
AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC, WE'VE ALREADY INCORPORATED A LOT OF THIS.
THAT'S WHY PARKS HAVE NOW DONE SOME OF THE PLAYGROUNDS, BUT THAT'S THE WAY WE ROLL INTO LINKING THIS DOCUMENT WITH THE PRIORITIZATION DECISIONS THAT GO INTO CIP.
ACTION ITEM FROM STAFF TO COME BACK ON THE COMP PLAN LEVEL SERVICE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGE.
I AM AGAIN EMPHASIZING TO YOU THE COMPLICATIONS OF WE'RE ONLY OBLIGATED TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS.
KNOWING THAT WHEN OUR STANDARD, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIELDS ARE USED TWICE AS MUCH, WE REALLY CAN'T CONTROL THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T BUILD TWICE.
BECAUSE THINK ABOUT IT, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS HERE.
WE'RE PLANNING FOR 65,000, BUT THERE'S REALLY TWICE THAT WHEN YOU TAKE.
THAT'S A COMPLICATION OF THE COM PLAN.
NONETHELESS, WHAT I WOULD EXPECT AND WE ALL WOULD WANT IS THE PRIORITIZATION OF WHAT DO WE NEED TO ADD CAPACITY? WHERE CAN WE REDEPLOY CAPACITY? BOTTOM LINE, THAT'S WHAT THE TAKEAWAY.
I'M JUST ADVISING THAT AS OPPOSED TO GETTING TOO CAUGHT UP.
WELL, WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WHEN YOU HAVE 50% OF THE USERS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT.
I JUST TALK ABOUT NUMBER OF FIELDS.
I THINK TO SOME DEGREE, IT'S A STAFF DECISION.
I DO THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE, I'M ASKING MY COLLEAGUES TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF EXECUTIVE AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE SOME OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO WHEN THE PUBLIC PICKS THIS UP WHEN YOU POST IT AS IT'S BEEN ADOPTED, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
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DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN INCORPORATE A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING FROM A FOOTNOTE STANDPOINT OR FROM CHANGING IT.
>> BUT THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN GET IT FOR THE 19TH.
>> UNDERSTAND. THEN OUR ACTION WOULD BE YOU WOULD COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE IT READY.
I THINK THAT WE ALL AGREE TO THAT.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE YEARS TO DO IT, BUT THIS WAY, IT'S IN YOUR CONTROL WHAT TO COME BACK, BUT JUST SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WILL TRANSLATE AND BE A GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT WE'LL BE USING AS WE GO FORTH.
>> GENERALLY, I'VE BEEN VERY BROAD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE DOLLAR NUMBERS NEXT TO ANY OF THESE, CIP IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
I'VE TRIED TO SPEAK IN TERMS OF OPERATING LOGIC IN PRINCIPLE AND LEAVE THAT TO STAFF TO REALLY WORK OUT THE NUMBERS, KNOWING THE PRIORITIES OF COUNCIL.
SPORTS LIGHTING FOR INDIAN CREEK, I SEE IN LONG TERM.
BUT ALSO IN LONG TERM, I SEE A PARKING AREA FOR EASTVIEW MANOR PARK, WHICH AGAIN IS A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
THAT MIGHT GO ALONG WITH RESTROOMS, TOO.
THOSE HAVE NEVER HAD PARKING BECAUSE THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN WALKING FROM THE HOMES IN THE AREA.
THAT MAY BE THE WAY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PREFERS IT, WHO KNOWS, BUT PARKING IS EXPENSIVE.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE PUSHING BACK.
I WOULD PUSH FORWARD SPORTS LIGHTING FOR COURTS TO AGAIN INCREASE CAPACITY.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A SPECIFIC PRESCRIPTION, BUT AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, AND I HOPE A MAJORITY, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS, JUST CAPACITY IS AN OPERATIONAL LOGIC TO IT.
THEN, AS WE GO INTO CIP, WE TRUST OUR STAFF TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO PUSH BACK AND WHAT TO BRING FORWARD TO FULFILL THAT.
THEN THE COMP PLAN, YES, I AGREE WITH, AND FOOTNOTES.
JUST AGAIN, THE BIGGER CONTEXT, BECAUSE AGAIN, EACH MUNICIPALITY IS SO UNIQUE.
WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE FEATURE, PARTICULARLY IN ABACOA.
I LIVE WITH ALL THESE EXTRA PLAYGROUNDS AND FIELDS, AND THINGS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ACCOUNTED FOR IN GARDENS.
THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE. THANK YOU.
>> THERE'S TWO MORE ITEMS, AND IT CAME UP IN JUST THE LAST FEW MINUTES TO MAKE SURE YOU ADDRESSED IN THE SUMMARY.
COLLABORATION WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT LEVERAGING THEIR FACILITIES TO MEET THE NEED.
IT'S ADDRESSED IN HERE, BUT IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT THAT'LL BE AN ONGOING THING AS IT HAD, AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR HOW WE'RE DOING MORE OUT-OF-THE-BOX THINKING OF CONTRIBUTING AT THE COUNTY POOL TO GET A SPLASH PAD IN THERE.
THAT'S THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE THING TO DO.
THEN AT WEST JUPITER COMMUNITY CENTER, WHEREVER THAT, I KNOW STAFF MADE A RUN AT THAT AND GOT REJECTED.
AT LEAST I WAS HEARING MAYBE THERE'S SOME HOPE THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.
BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS MAY NOT HAPPEN THIS YEAR, AND WE MAY NOT HAVE A PLAN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING AT IT, HAVE TO.
WE MEANS THE COUNCIL, TOWN MANAGER, YOU, STAFF, EVERYBODY. WE JUST HAVE TO.
THEN, NOT REMISS WITH COUNCIL GUISINGER HAD ASKED, WE MADE PROGRESS WITH INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS? WE HAD IN LOCAL AGREEMENTS, AND THEY EXPIRED AND CHANGED.
NO, I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE THAT.
IT STILL IS A PRIORITY TO THE COUNCIL, AND WE REALIZED WE HAVE TO HELP.
THE FACT THAT JTA STARTED INCURRING MORE COSTS, THEY CAME TO US FOR USING THE FACILITIES.
THAT SOMEHOW IN THE NEW INTERLOCAL, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT TO THE WAY THAT THE ORIGINAL ONE DID.
IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT JUST SERVING THE SAME COMMON POPULATION OF PEOPLE.
I REALIZE THERE'S COSTS IN KEEPING THE SCHOOL FACILITY OPEN.
BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST REACTING TO THEY WERE SAYING THEY WERE HAVING TO INCUR MORE COSTS THAN THEY HAD IN THE PAST.I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE HEARING.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO TRY TO GET THAT ADDRESSED IN THE INTERLOCAL IF WE CAN.
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DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE ENOUGH GUIDANCE HERE?>> [OVERLAPPING] ABSOLUTELY. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE THOROUGHNESS AND ALL THE FEEDBACK.
I THINK EVERYTHING IS WELL WITHIN REACH OF ACCOMPLISHING.
WE'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE FINISH LINE, SO VERY EXCITED TO GET IT ACROSS THE LINE AND MEET THE NEEDS OF COUNCIL AND OBVIOUSLY SUBSEQUENTLY THE RESIDENTS.
>> AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[TOWN ATTORNEY]
>> MOVING ON TO REPORTS. TOWN ATTORNEY.
>> A COUPLE OF REPORTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
TODAY, I PARTICIPATED IN A PHONE CALL WITH COUNSEL REPRESENTING MR. MODICA.
I HAVE SOME ENCOURAGING NEWS TO REPORT.
THAT REMAINS CONFIDENTIAL, BUT I AM GOING TO SHARE THAT WITH THE TOWN MANAGER TOMORROW AT SOME POINT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'M HAVING SOME WISDOM TEETH PULLED TOMORROW, SO FRANK, IT'LL BE LATER IN THE DAY.
I HOPE I WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK CLEARLY TO YOU.
I WILL BE ON VACATION THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
MY PARTNER, TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW, IS GOING TO HAVE TO DELIVER THE INFORMATION, BUT IT'S BEEN A PROGRESSIVE PROCESS, AND I THINK WE ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS I KNOW ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE OF SENATE BILL 180.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE QUITE AWARE OF THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON ALL COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA.
I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH OTHER LAND USE AND MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS AROUND THE STATE ABOUT THIS, INCLUDING LAW FIRM THAT REPRESENTS A NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES IN BROWARD AND DADE COUNTY, WHICH SUCCESSFULLY CHALLENGED THE FORM 6 LEGISLATION.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF CLOSE FRIENDS AND CONTACTS THERE.
THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN LEADING THE CHARGE TO CHALLENGE SENATE BILL 180.
WHAT SENATE BILL 180 DOES SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR IS THAT IT EFFECTIVELY ELIMINATES THE COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO MAKE CHANGES TO ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ITS LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, RETROACTIVE TO NOVEMBER 1 OF 2024, AND GOING PROSPECTIVELY THROUGH 2027.
BUT IT GETS WORSE THAN THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE BILL THAT SAYS, THEREAFTER, ANYTIME THERE IS A HURRICANE THAT ANY EXECUTIVE ORDER EXTENDED, EMERGENCY ORDER EXTENDED WILL ALSO BE APPLIED WITHIN 100 MILES OF THE PATH OF THAT HURRICANE.
NOW, SENATE BILL 180, GIVEN THE STORMS THAT WE HAD IN 2024 AND 2023, EFFECTIVELY COVERED ALL 57 COUNTIES OF FLORIDA.
WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR STRONG STORM SEASONS AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE WARMING OF OUR OCEANS AND WARMING OF OUR CLIMATE, IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT, AND I THINK SCIENTISTS HAVE REPORTED, THAT HURRICANE ACTIVITY IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO BE STRONG.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THAT LEGISLATION COULD GO BEYOND 2027.
IT COULD KEEP PERPETUATING ITSELF BECAUSE OF EACH STORM SEASON.
WEISS SEROTA, WHO'S THE LAW FIRM THAT I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS WITH HAS A PLAN TO CHALLENGE THE LEGISLATION.
THEY ARE ASKING COMMUNITIES WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN AS PLAINTIFFS IN THE CHALLENGE TO INVEST $10,000.
THEIR GOAL IS TO ATTRACT 50 COMMUNITIES THROUGH FLORIDA,
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WHICH PROVIDES A SIGNIFICANT WAR CHEST.BUT A SIGNIFICANT WAR CHEST IN LITIGATION OF THIS NATURE IS WHAT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO GO THROUGH THE APPELLATE LEVELS, UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE COMES TO ITS SENSES AND AMENDS THE LEGISLATION.
THERE'S ALSO SOME TALK OF THAT, AND PERHAPS LITIGATION WOULD ASSIST THEM IN COMING TO A REASONABLE CONCLUSION ABOUT PLANNING IN FLORIDA.
I WANT TO SAY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE A LONG TIME THAT THE LEADERSHIP OF MAYORS GOLONKA, WODRASKA, AND KURETSKI OVER THE YEARS.
ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE HALLMARKS OF THIS COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO PLANNING IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY.
INNOVATIVE AND RESPONSIBLE PLANNING HERE HAS BEEN THE HALLMARK OF JUPITER FOR AT LEAST 30 YEARS, AND IT'S GIVEN YOU AND OUR CITIZENS THINGS LIKE THE RIVER WALK, ABACOA, ENVIRONMENTAL BOND ISSUES TO PRESERVE OPEN SPACE, AND THE RESULT OF THAT IS NOT BY ACCIDENT; IT'S BY GOOD PLANNING.
I'M ON A LITTLE BIT OF A SOAPBOX HERE, BUT THE THOUGHT THAT GOING FORWARD, YOUR ABILITY TO PLAN FOR YOUR COMMUNITY WILL BE RESTRICTED UNDER THE THREAT OF LITIGATION BY PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO DO NOT LIKE YOUR PLANNING IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK BEARS STRONG CONSIDERATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS LITIGATION.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TONIGHT; I AM ASKING YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT AND, AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING, MAKE A DECISION.
BUT I THINK TO ME, THIS IS THE MOST DAMAGING PLANNING LEGISLATION THAT I'VE SEEN IN FLORIDA SINCE I BEGAN MY CAREER AS A LAND USE PLANNER BACK IN 1979.
>> THINK ABOUT IT, AND WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO DISCUSS IT, I'M READY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? IS THERE A TIMELINE ON THIS WHEN YOU NEED TO HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL?
>> I WOULD SAY SOONER THAN LATER.
LAST WEEK, CITY ATTORNEYS WERE AT THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE FOR THREE DAYS IN BOCA RATON.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SUSAN TREVARTHEN, WHO'S A PLANNER LAWYER WITH WEISS SEROTA.
SUSAN, AND I WERE AT THE SAME LAW FIRM MANY YEARS AGO THAT FRED BASELMAN WAS THE HEAD PARTNER THERE, AND MR. BASELMAN WAS THE ARCHITECT OF MOST OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT LAWS IN FLORIDA, AND SO WE GREW UP IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LEGISLATION WITH A LOT OF OUR COLLEAGUES THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
IT'S REALLY THE LATEST ATTACK ON HOME RULE.
BECAUSE IN FLORIDA, AS YOU KNOW, A GROWTH STATE, AND CONTINUING TO BE A GROWTH STATE, AND JUPITER IS IN REALLY A CYCLE OF THERE'S STILL GROWTH GOING ON, BUT THERE'S REDEVELOPMENT GOING ON.
YOU STILL HAVE TO PLAN FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
THE RESTRICTION ON OR THE FEAR THAT A COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE THAT IF YOU ADOPT RESPONSIBLE PLANNING LEGISLATION, IT COULD BE ATTACKED BY A PROPERTY OWNER WHO DOESN'T AGREE THAT IT'S RESPONSIBLE, AND CHALLENGE THAT LEGISLATION, AND IF THEY WIN, RECOVER THEIR ATTORNEY FEES HAS A SIGNIFICANT CHILLING EFFECT ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.
>> WELL, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THREE ITEMS, AND I'LL WEIGH IN ALREADY PERSONALLY.
NUMBER 1, I CAN HYPOTHESIZE SOME OF WHAT WE DO MAY BE OKAY, BUT NONETHELESS, THIS IS SO FAR REACHING.
WE TALK TONIGHT ABOUT LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR PARKS AND REC.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT DOESN'T FALL IN THE CATEGORY.
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YOU CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS NO ONE BUT US, BUT IT'S OUR GUIDING.I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A ROUND TABLE ON ALL THESE THINGS.
WE HAVE BEEN AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES, BUT WE DO THEM TYPICALLY.
WELL, SOME OF THE ONES WE DO IS WITH THE AGREEMENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT STILL COULD BE DONE, BUT NOT CLEAR FROM THE LEGISLATION.
THEN IN THE WAY OF TRAFFIC, WE RELY UPON, AND WE FEEL COMPELLED TO MEET OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE OBLIGATIONS FOR TRAFFIC.
WE UPDATE THAT ON A PERIODIC BASIS TO REFLECT WHERE WE ARE, AND FROM THAT, WE DECIDE WHAT TO SPEND CAPITAL DOLLARS ON.
WE USE THE COMPLAIN AS MUCH, AND MORE THAN I THINK ANYBODY I KNOW.
I'M IN ON THE $10,000 AND IF MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO WAIT, WE'LL CALL IT BACK AGAIN.
BUT IN ADDITION, I DO THINK OF THIS ONE MAYBE SHOULD BE ROUND TABLED, NOT TO HOLD UP, SAYING WHETHER WE WILL OR WON'T AGREE.
BUT I DO THINK THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT US.
HERE I'M TALKING ABOUT LET'S UPDATE OUR COMPLAIN, AND MAYBE I DIDN'T HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK THAT.
THAT'S WHY ANOTHER MEETING WHERE YOU GIVE US WE CAN USE EXAMPLES OF THINGS YOU THINK WE CAN.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING CAN BE CHALLENGED, WHICH IS WHAT MAKES THIS WHOLE THING WHY $10,000 IS MONEY WELL INVESTED TO GET CLARITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO WEIGH IN OR YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT?
>> I THINK IT'S AN EGREGIOUS TACK ON HOME RULE, AND I'M ALL FOR FIGHTING IT.
WE'RE BUILT OUT, LIKE YOU SAID WE'RE DOING, NOT RENOVATION.
>> REDEVELOPMENT. BUT OTHER TOWNS THAT ARE GROWING, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT JUPITER HAS DONE TO DEVELOP THEIR TOWN, AND AT THE WILL, THE PEOPLE, AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS CHOOSE.
ANY ATTACK ON HOME RULE JUST DRIVES ME OUT OF MY MIND, AND I'M ALL IN. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.
>> I GENERALLY AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW IF IS THERE A MEMO OR SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC MORE DETAIL.
>> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT. WE HAVE A MEMO COMING OUT TOMORROW TO THE TOWN MANAGER ON SENATE BILL 180.
WE HAVE ALSO PUT IN MOTION WITH MR. SICKLER, IDENTIFYING ALL ORDINANCES, LAND USE, AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED SINCE NOVEMBER 1, 2024, ALONG WITH PROSPECTIVE ORDINANCES THAT THE PLANNING STAFF HAS GOT NOW IN PROCESS.
WE'RE DOING THIS FOR OUR OTHER THREE COMMUNITIES THAT OUR FIRM REPRESENTS ALSO.
WHAT WE WILL GO THROUGH AND DO WITH THOSE ORDINANCES IS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, A RISK ANALYSIS.
KEEPING IN MIND THAT REGARDLESS OF OUR OPINION, THAT SOMETHING MAY BE A LOW RISK, IT'S NOT OUR OPINION THAT MATTERS, IT'S A PROPERTY OWNER'S OPINION THAT MATTERS.
IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT TO SAY THERE IS A SAFE PLAN AMENDMENT OR THERE IS A SAFE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION THAT THE COUNCIL CAN ADOPT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHO MIGHT FIND IT OFFENSIVE.
>> FIRST, I THINK THAT THAT'S INCREDIBLY HELPFUL, NOT ONLY THE SB 180, BUT ALSO HOW IT APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO JUPITER, AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.
B, I THINK THAT THAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL IN WHAT WE MAY ENDEAVOR TO DO POTENTIALLY, AND WILL HELP LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND OTHERS.
THEY'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR THESE TYPES OF SPECIFIC EXAMPLES FROM MUNICIPALITIES.
THE HOURS OF EFFORT, I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE SPENDING ON THIS WILL NOT BE WASTED. THANK YOU.
>> LET ME ADD ONE OTHER THING BECAUSE THIS JUST CAME OUT LAST WEEK, ORANGE COUNTY, WHICH YOU KNOW IS A LARGE METROPOLITAN COUNTY.
AS PART OF THE UPDATE TO THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEY ADOPTED A VISION STATEMENT.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A VISION STATEMENT FOR WHAT THEY SEE IN TERMS OF GROWTH OF THEIR COUNTY.
THAT PLAN AMENDMENT WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AS ALL TRANSMITTED PLAN AMENDMENTS MUST GO.
THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH, OF COURSE, IS UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE GOVERNOR, ADVISED ORANGE COUNTY THAT THEY WERE NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY'S PLAN AMENDMENT.
THE FIRST LAYER IS THAT WE HAVE
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PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH YOUR HOME RULE AUTHORITY, AND THEN WE HAVE THE STATE DIRECTLY ADDRESSING AT LEAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS.NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, BUT THEY DO BECAUSE OF THE STATUTORY PROCESS OF PLAN AMENDMENTS.
>> SOME IN THE STATE ARE DRIVING US TO UNBRIDLED GROWTH.
RIDICULOUS. BY HANDCUFFING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT WAY.
>> FOR GROWTH, BUT DON'T WORRY, WHILE THE PUBLIC WANTS US TO WORRY ABOUT GROWTH, AND MANAGE IT.
>> THE PURPOSE OF THIS LEGISLATION IS JUST TO ALLOW ANYBODY TO BUILD ANYTHING THEY CARE ABOUT. REALLY.
>> I THINK THEY VIEW IT AS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY POST COVID, WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH INTEREST IN THE STATE.
THEY WANT TO CAPTURE, AND RETAIN AS MUCH OF IT AS POSSIBLE, AND ANY OBSTACLE IS A CHALLENGE.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
>> WELL, KEEP IN MIND WHILE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PROMOTING GROWTH, WHICH, OF COURSE, PROMOTES POPULATION, POPULATION REQUIRES SERVICES THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS PROVIDE.
THEY'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
IN THE WORDS OF KARL HAYASON, IT'S A DOUBLE WHAMMY.
>> IT MAY WORK COUNTER TO THEIR GOALS.
IT MAY NOT RETAIN RESIDENTS IF THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC OR QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS.
>> WHEN WE SAY BY ELIMINATING PROPERTY TAXES, THAT MONEY COMES FROM SOMEWHERE SO IT GETS SPOON FED FROM THE STATE TO THE TOWNS, AND THEN YOU'RE RESTRICTED ON, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, WHAT YOU CAN DO, AND HOW YOU CAN SERVE YOUR CITIZENS. AM I CORRECT?
>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS BILL IS SO BROAD, IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING FROM BEFORE AFTER HURRICANES, WIND MITIGATION, FLOOD MAPPING, WHAT COUNTIES CAN, AND CANNOT DO AFTER A HURRICANE.
THIS BILL IS HUGE AND IT'S WIDE, AND EXPANSIVE.
BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.
WE NEED TO HEAR ABOUT IT, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
>> THE GAP, THE CENTRAL CONTROL.
>> IT'S OKAY. BUT I THINK I'VE ONLY HEARD TWO THAT HAVE SAID THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS 10 GRAND.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD JOIN THE FIGHT, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
>> I'M SUPPORTIVE TOO, BUT I'M ALWAYS GOING TO SAY, LET ME READ THE MEMO FIRST.
>> I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST THINKING, I JUST KNOW THE MEMO IS GOING TO TELL ME WHAT I NEED.
>> YEAH, AT THIS POINT, IT'S NOT A COMMITMENT, BUT THE LAW FIRM NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHO IS LIKELY IN, AND WHO'S NOT.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WEIGHING IN HERE.
>> THEIR TRACK RECORD IS A GOOD ONE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WHO JOINED IN THE FORM 6 FIGHT.
MY GUESS IS THOSE ARE FAIRLY ENLIGHTENED COMMUNITIES, AND THAT THE SAME COMMUNITIES WILL PROBABLY PARTICIPATE HERE.
>> WELL, IN ESSENCE, THIS BILL DOES ALSO STRENGTHEN THE STATE'S EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, NUMBER 1.
THAT'S HOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT, IF YOU WILL.
BUT IT REALLY PUT THAT HANDCUFFS ON WHAT LOCALS CAN DO.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING YOUR MEMO, AND SEEING IT ALL.
[TOWN MANAGER]
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
MR. BAIRD, PLEASE DON'T WORRY TOMORROW ABOUT TRYING TO GET TO ME DURING THE DAY.
I'D RATHER YOU GET YOUR WISDOM BACK. I WILL MAKE [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR SAID.
>> MIGHT BE WAITING A WHILE. I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE ANYTIME OVER THE WEEKEND.
IF YOU WANT TO CHAT OVER THE WEEKEND, JUST TEXT ME.
MAYOR, AND COUNCIL, THE FIRST THING I'M REALLY HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT FINALLY, THE QUIET ZONE DESIGNATION FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER WILL GO INTO EFFECT TOMORROW AUGUST 8.
THE DESIGNATION REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR TRAINS TO SOUND THEIR HORN AS THEY APPROACH THE SIX RAILROAD CROSSINGS LOCATED IN JUPITER, AND SHOULD SIGNIFICANTLY CUT DOWN ON THE TRAIN HORN NOISE THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR RESIDENTS, AND BUSINESSES.
WITH THE QUIET ZONES GOING INTO EFFECT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO BE VIGILANT WHEN AROUND THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
WHILE TRAINS WILL BE PASSING THROUGH A BIT QUIETER, THEY WILL STILL BE MOVING VERY QUICKLY.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH CHIEF BARBERA, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A POLICE PRESENCE AROUND THE CROSSINGS STARTING TOMORROW,
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AND PROBABLY UNTIL NEXT MONDAY, WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.TO GIVE COMMUTERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AWARE, AND REMIND THEM, BE CAREFUL.
THEN ALSO THE WEEKEND TRAVEL, THE WEEKEND PEOPLE OUT AS WELL. YES, MAYOR?
>> I'VE SAID THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES BECAUSE I KNOW BRIGHT LINE TOLD ME THIS.
ULTIMATELY, IT'S AT THEIR DISCRETION.
DO WE KNOW WHEN CHRISTER GARDENS, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE SIGNS DOWN BEFORE IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE.
IT'S EFFECTIVE IN OUR ASKING BRIGHT LINE.
BUT DID THE GARDENS, DID THEY IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENT THE GARDENS BECAUSE THAT'LL BE A TELLTALE SIGN?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENTED THE GARDENS.
I KNOW WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS FINAL PHASE, THEY WANTED US TO WAIT UNTIL THE GARDENS WAS ALL THE WAY IN COMPLIANCE.
WE'VE BEEN SO FAR AHEAD OF A CURVE THAT WE JUST WANTED TO GET IT DONE.
>> I'M NOT SURE IF THE GARDENS HAS GONE AHEAD NOW.
>> IT WAS REPORTED SO THE GARDENS DID A SECTION.
THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING, JUST PEOPLE A PUBLIC HEARING.
EVERYTHING'S IN ORDER, THE FEDERAL RAILROAD ASSOCIATION HAS AGREED.
WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN AND IT SHOULD BE ACQUIRED, IT IS DESIGNATED.
BUT THEN THE LAST STEP IS BRIGHT LINE HAS TO IMPLEMENT THAT IN THEIR OPERATIONAL PROCEDURES, AND TO THE DEGREE THAT THE GARDENS GOT A SECTION OR ALL OF IT.
IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF ANYBODY KNEW IF THEY IN FACT, LIKE STOPPED THAT SAME DAY OR THEY COULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL WE JOINED.
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER EITHER, MAYOR.
I KNOW IT WAS GOING BACK, AND FORTH.
WE WERE REALLY MOSTLY CONCERNED WITH JUPITER'S.
>> YES. I SAY BRIGHT LINE. THAT'S ALSO FEC.
THEREFORE IT GOES TO THE RAILROAD OPERATORS, AND THEN NOW THEY NO LONGER OBLIGATED.
I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE DISAPPOINTED TOMORROW IF IT TURNS OUT THEY'RE STILL BLOWING THE HORNS.
>> IF THEY NEED TO, THEY CAN STILL BLOW THE HORNS.
> I HOPE THERE'S AT LEAST STORY OUT HORN, SOMETIMES YOU'RE NOT BLOWING IT.
>> CAN WE PUT THIS OUT OUR SOCIAL MEDIA?
>> YEAH, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT.
>> WHILE I'M AT IT, I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS SO I JUST WANT TO THANK A FEW FOLKS, ROGER HELD, CJ LAND, ALL THE STAFF, INCLUDING MANY PEOPLE IN PUBLIC'S WORKS WHO WORK SO HARD TO GET THIS DESIGNATION.
AS YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN AROUND, AND AROUND, AND SO I CAN'T THANK THEM ENOUGH.
ALSO, AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT AT PART NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AT THIS PAST TUESDAY, TWO NIGHTS AGO.
OUR POLICE OFFICERS, FIRE RESCUE PERSONNEL, AND STAFF WERE REALLY JUST HUMBLED BY THE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
FOR THOSE THAT WERE IN THE PARADE, IT WAS REALLY JUST REMARKABLE TO SEE ALL THOSE LITTLE KIDS DRESSED IN POLICE UNIFORMS, AND FIRE UNIFORMS, AND JUST REALLY REMARKABLE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR THAT.
THEN LAST WEEK, THE TOWN'S PLANNING, AND ZONING STAFF HOSTED THE FOCUS GROUPS WITH RESIDENTS, AND BUSINESS OWNERS ALONG CENTER STREET CARTER TO DISCUSS THE TWO KEY INITIATIVES RELATING TO THE PALM BEACH COUNTY PROJECTS TO WIDE AND CENTER STREET.
WE'VE ALSO CREATED A WEB PAGE TO COLLECT INPUT FOR ANYBODY THAT WASN'T THERE, AND WANTS TO GIVE INPUT, AND ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 AT 6:00 P.M, THE TOWN WILL HOLD A PUBLIC INPUT WORKSHOP HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
THEN FINALLY, OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE PERFORMING A SYSTEM WIDE MAINTENANCE OF THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM BEGINNING NEXT TUESDAY, AUGUST 12.
DURING THAT TIME, CHLORINE WILL BE USED TO DISINFECT THE WATER.
>> JUST TO ASSURE EVERYONE, THIS PROCESS IS SAFE, AND IT'S A RECOMMENDED PRACTICE TO MAINTAIN WATER QUALITY THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.
BUT OUR WATER CUSTOMERS MAY NOTICE A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THE TASTE OF THE WATER, BUT PLEASE REST ASSURED THAT THIS IS SAFE TO DRINK AND COOK WITH.
THE PROCESS IS GOING TO END ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2. THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR.
[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]
>> AGAIN, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON THE TOWN MANAGER.
ALL OF THE ENERGY, AND WE'RE STILL COMING UP WITH A NUMBER, 05,000 PEOPLE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MORE.
THE ENERGY THAT OUR RESIDENTS SHOWED FOR OUR STAFF, FIRST RESPONDERS.
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FOR ME, PERSONALLY, IT WAS JUST VERY HEARTWARMING.I WAS VERY PROUD TO BE IN THAT FIRE TRUCK, BY THE WAY.
I WANT TO ALSO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE NEW SIGNS THAT ARE UP ON THE SLOWDOWNS.
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE IN CARS ALONG TONY PENNA SLOWING DOWN.
THAT WAS A GREAT TIMING BEFORE SCHOOL.
AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK PUT ON THEM BETWEEN CIPS, BUDGETS, PARKS, AND RECS.
THEY HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB, AND AS I SIT HERE AND LISTEN, WE CAN ALL KEEP ADDING, AND THEY GET VERY HUMBLY.
THEY DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH AMAZING PRODUCTS FOR US TO FINALIZE IN THE COMING MONTHS.
PLEASE CONVEY THEM. THANK YOU.
>> A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE WERE ALL INVITED TO MEET WITH SOME OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, AND I WAS ABLE TO GO AND THE MAYOR ALSO WAS THERE, AND THEY WANT TO DISCUSS THEIR FIVE YEAR TRAFFIC PLAN THAT THEY'RE PUTTING INTO THEIR CIP, AND WE GOT A TOUR OF THE FACILITY AND WE GOT A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
THEY WANT TO KNOW FROM THE TOWN OUR PRIORITIES AS THEY WORK IT INTO THEIR BUDGET, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED, SO WE'RE ON THAT.
ALSO THERE'S TALK OF, AS THE HALF PENNY SALES TAX, SUNSETS THAT THEY'LL BE A NEW SALES TAX IS STRICTLY JUST GOING TO BE FOR TRANSPORTATION.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE OUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER.
BUT WE NEED, ESPECIALLY I WOULD SAY SPECIFICALLY, OUT ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, CENTER STREET, INTERSECTION INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THEY SAID THEY'VE ALREADY DONE AS MY MEMORY CORRECT THAT THEY ALREADY DID A STUDY ON THAT INTERSECTION OF CENTRAL AND INDIANTOWN ROAD.
WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND JUST STAY ON TOP OF THAT.
GOOD THINGS HAPPENING THERE. AGAIN, I WAS INVOLVED.
I WANT TO THANK MAJOR CHRIS SMITH.
HE LET ME RIDE IT IN HIS VEHICLE AT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
IT WAS FANTASTIC, AND THAT'S THE FIRST ONE I WAS INVOLVED IN.
I'VE BEEN ON VACATION THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THE OUTPOURING OF THE RESIDENTS COMING OUT AND THE RESPECT AND THE ENTHUSIASM WAS JUST YOU GUYS ALL FELT THAT IT WAS AMAZING.
THIS TOWN REALLY SUPPORTS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK OFFICER DIAZ HAD A LOT TO DO THAT WHOLE NIGHT.
HE DESERVES A LOT OF RECOGNITION FOR THAT.
THIS IS A LATE NIGHT. I'LL WRAP IT UP.
>> A FEW QUICK ITEMS, NUMBER 1.
I KNOW STACY SOMETIMES WATCHES THESE MEETINGS, SO I WANT TO GIVE A SHOT OF APPRECIATION TO HER WHEN THIS NEW DIAS WAS CREATED.
THE PHONE CHARGER ESCAPED THE MAYOR'S AREA AND SO I REALLY HADN'T HAD ONE BECAUSE LIKE THE ONE ON THIS SIDE IS REALLY, IT'S OUT OF REACH SO THAT I WAS ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT USING ONE OUT OF REACH AND I LEAVE IT BEHIND.
I ASKED HER JUST YESTERDAY TO SEE IF SHE COULDN'T GET ME A PAD.
I WALKED IN HERE, TYPICAL OF STACY.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO HER.
>> BUT THERE'S PLUGS TO DO IT, BUT THEY WOULD BE HERE PERMANENTLY, AND IT ISN'T JUST ME, SO MAYOR SHOULD COME OFF OF THAT BECAUSE WHEN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER OR ANYBODY ELSE USES THIS UP HERE, IT MEANS PEOPLE SITTING IN THE SEAT NEED TO USE IT.
THANK YOU. JUST A FOLLOW-UP ON VICE MAYOR'S COMMENT.
I HAD ASKED AND ARRANGED, I'D ALWAYS WANTED TO GET DOWN OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROL CENTER AT THE COUNTY AND TRIED TO DO IT WHEN OUR NEW ENGINEERING DIRECTOR WAS THERE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, HE HAD VACATION PLANNED.
WE HAD A MEETING, WHICH THE VICE MAYOR WAS THERE. I WAS THERE.
YOU ALL HAD AN INVITE TO IT AND HE WASN'T THERE, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET BACK TO DOWNLOAD.
BUT I'M JUST PLEASED TO SAY IN ADDITION TO SEEING THE TRAFFIC CONTROL CENTER, WHICH I'D ALWAYS IMAGINED BUT NEVER SAW, WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT CONVERSATIONS.
MR. KITCHER, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU TO SHARE BECAUSE I DO THINK SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS ABOUT.
WE HAD REALLY SOME WIDESPREAD DISCUSSION.
I WOULD SAY ON THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE VICE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT.
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WELL, THEY WERE ASKING STUFF FROM US, AND I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEM FOR THEIR INPUT, LIKE ON DONNA ROSS ROAD AND WHATEVER.WE BEGAN THE DIALOGUE WHICH IT MAY WELL HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THE WEEK OR TWO BEFORE WHEN OUR ENGINEERING DIRECTOR WAS THERE.
I JUST KNOW NOW IT DID WITH ON OUR BASIS.
WE'RE OFTEN RUNNING TOGETHER, AND WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT IS THEY WERE TELLING ME ABOUT A PROJECT.
THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF POTENTIAL ROAD PROJECTS THAT WE JUST NEED TO UPDATE THE LINE OF SITE TO BECAUSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THEY'RE IN THE DESIGN PHASE AT CENTRAL BOULEVARD AND INDIANTOWN ROAD FOR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, NOT COMPLETELY LIKE WE NEED, BUT NONETHELESS AN IMPROVEMENT AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS AND I'M GOING TO GET MORE DETAIL SO WE CAN SHARE IT AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT ON THE DIAS, BUT IN THE PUBLIC.
BUT THEY'RE EXTENDING THE EASTBOUND TURN LANES FOR CAPACITY TO TURN NORTHBOUND ON THE CENTRAL BOULEVARD.
THEN THEY'RE GOING TO ADD A LEGITIMATE NORTHBOUND THROUGH LANE UP TO RIVERWALK, I SUPPOSE, WHERE IT ALWAYS WAS AN ODDBALL ONE, TO PEOPLE TURNING.
YOU'RE REALLY TURNING IN THE LANE THAT'S ALREADY EMERGED LANE.
THEY'RE MAKING THAT MORE OF A PROPER DESIGN, WHICH WILL HELP OUT EVEN FOR NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC.
THEY'RE PROCEEDING TO DO ROAD PROJECTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT PROJECTS WE HAD THEY WANTED TO LEARN ABOUT OR ONES WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS ADVOCATED TOGETHER, SO BOTTOM LINE, IN THAT SPIRIT, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE SOME.
I THINK, UNIQUELY, MR. KITRO, WE SHOULD HAVE A MEETING WITH YOUR STAFF, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE THAT I MAY KNOW, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, AND THEN THAT CAN BE COMMUNICATED ON THE COUNCIL.
PROBABLY EVERY ONE OF US ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BUT THE THING THAT I WAS DELIGHTED ABOUT, AND I CAN OVER-EMPHASIZE MY GRATITUDE TOWARDS STAFF, AND I MEAN STAFF.
I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ON THIS COUNCIL WHEN WE BEGAN STRATEGIC PLANNING.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE CREATED OUR VISION AND WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN OUR SMALL TOWN FIELD AND NOT ONE OF US REALLY KNEW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING WE SAID DECADES AGO AND I SUBMIT TO YOU.
WHAT I WAS DELIGHTFUL TO ME WAS, I WAS IN ONE OF OUR FIRE VEHICLES AT THE FIRE TRUCK AND WITH TWO OF OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT ARE FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA.
IT WAS SO DELIGHTFUL TO HEAR THEM OBSERVE LIKE, WOW, I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING THE LIKES OF THIS.
WHILE WE KNOW IT AND WE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, AT THAT MOMENT, AND I'VE ALREADY GONE BACK AND TOLD SOME STAFF IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST THE JOB THAT OUR POLICE DO.
BUT PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE SAYING, THANK YOU, POLICE.
OUR STAFF WHO PUT SIGNS OUT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT IT, COMMUNICATIONS.
IT'S LIKE AN ENTIRE TEAM EFFORT.
THAT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED JUST BECAUSE COUNCIL SAID WE WANT TO MAINTAIN A SMALL-TOWN FEEL.
IT JUST WAS PARTICULARLY GRATIFYING.
I'M JUST THANKFUL AND I KNOW ALL OF US THAT WERE THERE AND SO AS WE GO DOWN, I'M JUST EMPHASIZING THAT.
BUT THAT IS AGAIN, JUST THE HEARING TWO MEMBERS THAT NOW ARE PART OF THE TOWN BUT DIDN'T LIVE HERE WERE STUNNED BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
THAT'S A STATEMENT. STAFF NEED TO HEAR THAT TOWN MANAGER TO REALLY CELEBRATE THAT. THANK YOU.
I'D ASKED LAST MEETING FOR INFORMATION AND IT WAS IN THE WEEKLY REPORT.
THE STORMWATER UTILITY INSPECTIONS OVERVIEW AND METRICS.
THERE'S BEEN IMPROVEMENTS SINCE I LAST SAW IT.
I REALLY WANTED TO SHOUT OUT AND RECOGNIZE.
I WANTED NEWER MEMBERS, OR MAYBE ALL OF YOU, TO REALIZE THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT EXISTS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT DOCUMENT, THAT IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE WORK BECAUSE THEY KNOW ALL THE HOTSPOTS THAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
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BUT WE DON'T ALLOW OURSELVES TO BECOME A VICTIM.I KNOW THIS FIRSTHAND, NORTHERN F. THE HEIGHTS CONTROL DISTRICT, OTHER ENTITIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ELEMENTS OF THE STORM WATER SYSTEM.
BUT BEFORE OUR STAFF STARTED DOING THIS, THOSE THINGS WOULD OCCASIONALLY BE NEGLECTED.
I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE CALLED INTO OUR STAFF TO REPORT SOME THINGS AT THE CHOKE POINT THAT COULD, IN FACT, CALL RESULT IN FLOODING.
I CAN GIVE MORE COMMENTS TO STAFF, AND THEN IT REALLY WAS ENLIGHTENING ON THE BACKFLOW PREVENTION INSPECTION RESULTS, WHAT IT SHOWS.
THANK YOU. THEN JUST LASTLY, I WANT TO SAY THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THE QUARTERLY UPDATE.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, OF COURSE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I HAVE, BUT THAT WAS THE MOST WELL-DONE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE THAT WE'VE EVER HAD.
I KNOW THAT IT HASN'T BEEN FOR LACK OF EFFORT.
THERE'S BEEN A REAL EFFORT MADE TO REALLY IMPROVE THAT, TO MAKE IT MEANINGFUL THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN ONE LIKE THIS LAST ONE.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF.
AGAIN, I KNOW MANY HAVE DONE IT, AND BECAUSE WHEN IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IT, THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO US UP HERE, WELL, AND OUR STAFF.
THE BIG BREAKTHROUGH IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPEN.
THE FACT THAT EVERYONE, THEY'RE MOVING ALONG, RIGHT PROGRESS IS BEING MADE, CERTAINLY WE RUN IN OBSTACLES AND WE CLIMB OVER THEM, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> TO BE SUPER QUICK. NUMBER 1, I TEXTED AND A COLLEAGUE IN PALM BEACH GARDENS AND THEIR QUIET ZONE STARTED THE MORNING THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO START.
I HOPE YOU NEVER KNOW, BUT JUST WANTED TO CHECK ON THAT.
NUMBER 2, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE THE OTHER DAY ABOUT PLEASE SEE US ON OUR WORST DAYS.
SOMETIMES THAT WORST DAY CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT MEANING FOR EVERYONE.
BUT THIS IS A CHANCE FOR THEM TO BECOME NOT JUST A PROTECTOR, BUT A NEIGHBOR.
TO SEE EVERYONE, TO CONNECT WITH EVERYONE.
SMALL TOWN FIELD PARADES, YOU KNOW YOUR TOWN.
HAS A SENSE OF COMMUNITY WHEN YOU PARADES AND THEY KEEP GOING.
I'M ALWAYS WORRIED THEY'RE GOING TO FADE.
I LOVED COUNCIL CHOY AND HER DOG, THE DALMATIAN, THE MASCOT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UNTIL THEY FIND ONE.
ANYTHING, JUST TO BRING THAT INTEREST AND THAT HEART TO IT.
THIS IS THEIR NIGHT. WE WANT TO SUPPORT THEM.
WE WANT TO SUPPORT THEIR CELEBRATION SO THAT IT ALWAYS CONTINUES.
I LOVED IT. I ALWAYS DO. MY KIDS LOVED IT.
WE FORGOT A BAG OF CANDY TILL THE VERY END.
I HAD TEN FULL HANDFULS TO THROW OUT AT ABACOA.
IT WAS A GREAT MOMENT. THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD. THAT'S IT.
>> JUST IF I COULD ADD ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE QUIET ZONES, ROGER HELD MUST BE WATCHING.
BECAUSE I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE THAT THE FRA INSPECTORS AT THE COLUMN IF THE HORNS ARE REPEATEDLY BEING SOUNDED.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT TOMORROW THE QUIET ZONES WILL BE GOOD.
GOOD SIGNS. EVERYBODY'S TALKED ABOUT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT ALSO, BUT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, IS MY FIRST TIME WRITING.
I APPRECIATE THE PRIVILEGE OF HIM HOSTING ME IN HIS VEHICLE.
BUT REALLY AMAZE ME AS A LOT OF TURNOUT FOR TOWN, BUT THE NUMBER OF CITIZENS GOING DOWN THE VARIOUS ROADS WHO KNEW HIM BY NAME.
THAT'S A TRIBUTE TO THE POLICE PERSONNEL BE EMBEDDED IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND HATS OFF TO HIM BECAUSE EVERYBODY SCREAMING OUT HIS NAME.
HE WAS TOSSING CARS AND BALLS EVERYWHERE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, AND I LEARNED A LOT JUST RIDING WITH HIM AND TALKING TO HIM.
SECOND, I APPRECIATE THE PROCLAMATION, THE RECOGNITION TONIGHT OF THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT.
THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB SAFEGUARDING AND PROTECTING OUR WATER AND MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM.
I THINK THAT WAS A WELL-DESERVED PROCLAMATION TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> THE TIME IS NOW 9:44, AND WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.