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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. A LITTLE AFTER SEVEN, WE'LL GET STARTED.
[Call To Order]
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE JUNE 10, 2025, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HERE IN JUPITER TO ORDER.STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> COMMISSIONER MICHAEL CASSATT?
>> COMMISSIONER DAVID THOMPSON.
>> THANK YOU. NOW THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SUBMIT A GREEN CARD TO THE SECRETARY UP HERE.
SPEAKERS WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO EXPRESS THEIR COMMENTS.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
[ELECTION OF OFFICERS ]
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ELECT A NEW VICE CHAIR?>> ANY NAYS? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR KELSO.
NEXT ARE THE CITIZEN COMMENTS UNRELATED TO AGENDA ITEMS.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THE BOARD WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING.ANY ISSUES WILL BE NOTED BY STAFF OR FOLLOWED UP AS APPROPRIATE.
YOU DO NEED TO FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO, AND YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
STAFF, ARE THERE ANY COMMENT CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC, OR ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> YES. IF I CAN HAVE BARBARA TALTI, IF YOU CAN STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES TO EXPRESS YOUR COMMENTS.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BARBARA TALTI.
OUR PAD IS KNOWN AS VILLA DIAMANTE.
I RECEIVED A CODE VIOLATION NOTICE LAST WEEK REGARDING OUR HEIGHT OF OUR HEDGES, STATING THAT WE WERE FRONTING OLD JUPITER BEACH ROAD.
MY PROPERTY IS BEHIND A FORMAL OPEN GREEN SPACE IN VILLA DIAMANTE, AND WE DO NOT ABUT UP AGAINST OLD JUPITER BEACH ROAD.
ALONG OLD JUPITER BEACH ROAD, THERE IS A FOUR-FOOT-HIGH HEDGE.
MY PROPERTY FRONTS DIAMANTE WAY, AND THUS THE SHRUBS ALONG MY FRONTAL PROPERTY ARE FOUR FEET.
THE QUESTIONABLE AREA IS AROUND MY SIDE, WHERE THERE'S A SIDE ENTRANCE, NOT A FRONT ENTRANCE, WHERE IT ABUTS TO MY BACKYARD, WHERE WE HAVE A SWIMMING POOL, AND THOSE HEDGES ARE 6.5 FEET.
WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER WHO IS CONTESTING THE SIDE FRONT.
IT ALLOWS US PRIVACY IN OUR BACKYARD.
WE HAVE SUBMITTED ALL THE INFORMATION TO THE CODE VIOLATION, AND I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU ALL AT ZONING AND PLANNING.
I'M ASKING YOU TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION SHOWING THAT KENNEDY DID REQUEST THAT WE ARE FACING DIAMANTE WAY, NOT FACING OLD JUPITER BEACH.
I SUBMITTED PHOTOGRAPHS ALONG THE STREET SHOWING THAT THE RESIDENTS ACROSS THE STREET HAVE FULL FRONTAL CLOSURE BETWEEN TREES AND SHRUBS TO THEIR YARDS.
THERE IS ONE THAT HAS A SIX-FOOT FENCE ON THEIR FRONT PROPERTY, WHICH WE DO NOT.
WE ARE NOT OBSTRUCTING LINE OF SITE FOR POLICE AND MEDICAL PERSONNEL TO DRIVE DOWN OLD JUPITER BEACH ROAD.
I JUST ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THE INFORMATION THAT MY HUSBAND AND I SUBMITTED FOR BOTH 111 DIAMANTE WAY AND 208 DIAMANTE WAY, WHERE WE RESIDE AND RULE IN OUR FAVOR WHERE PRIVACY IN OUR BACK YARD WITH THE EIGHT-FOOT AND BELOW HEDGE AS REQUIRED FOR BACK AND SIDE YARDS AS OPPOSED TO THE FOUR-FOOT IN THE FRONT YARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. TOWN STAFF WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM IS MINUTES FROM THE MAY 13, 2025, MEETING.
[MINUTES]
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?>> COMMISSIONER KELSO, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> COMMISSIONER CASSATLY SECOND.
>> ANY NAYS? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
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PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED.ONTO THE REGULAR ORDER OF BUSINESS.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS]
STAFF, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING?>> NO. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO NOTE THAT MS. VINSON IS PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VINSON.
NOW, LET'S HAVE THE SECRETARY PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES.
THIS IS FOR APPLICANTS AND STAFF WHO WILL BE PROVIDING TESTIMONY THIS EVENING DOES NOT INCLUDE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAKING COMMENTS.
>> PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS MATTER IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. YOU CAN BE SEATED.
>> THANK YOU. ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
[3. Smash HQ]
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE SMASH HQ SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION.ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES? LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER BLUM.
>> BY THE SAME. I DROVE BY THE SITE.
>> I DROVE BY THE SITE AND SPOKE WITH STAFF.
>> JUST AS A REMINDER, I THINK DOES EVERYONE VOTE THIS EVENING, EVERYBODY HERE? ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THIS EVENING, THERE'S NO ALTERNATES, EVERYONE WILL VOTE.
STAFF, I'M SORRY, APPLICANT, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US YOUR PRESENTATION? THANKS.
>> GOOD EVENING, FOR THE RECORD, ALEC DICKERSON WITH TWO GHO HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, SMASH HQ, LLC.
TONIGHT'S REQUEST IS FOR A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO DESIGNATE 05,019 SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING GENERAL INDUSTRIAL USE TO BUSINESS OFFICE USE.
THIS ONLY AFFECTS UNIT 12, WHICH IS IN BUILDING 2, AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY ADDITIONAL SQUARE FEET TO BE ADDED TO THE BUILDINGS.
SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS REQUIRE FOR OFFICE USE IN EXCESS OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET IN THE I-1 ZONING DISTRICT.
THIS OFFICE WILL BE USED FOR THE SMASHED GULF HEADQUARTERS.
HERE'S THE PROJECT LOCATION AT THE INTERSECTION OF JUPITER PARK DRIVE AND JUPITER PARK CIRCLE, LOCATED IN THE JUPITER PARK OF COMMERCE AT 12:01 12 51 JUPITER PARK DRIVE, AND AS STATED, CONSISTS OF TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
SOME SITE HISTORY IN 2001, THE SITE WAS INITIALLY DEVELOPED.
IN 2018, IT WAS SOLD TO THE CURRENT OWNERS.
IN 2019, THERE WAS A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WENT THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVELY TO ADD MEZZANINE SPACES AS WELL AS CONDO THE FACILITY.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SMASH GOLF CLUB, IT'S UNDER THE LIV BRAND, WHOSE MISSION IS TO INSPIRE FANS AND PLAYERS TO EMBRACE THEIR FULL POTENTIAL, BELIEVES THAT EACH CHALLENGE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RISE HIGHER, AND CREATE A LASTING IMPACT.
SCOPE OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS CONSISTS OF THE OFFICES THAT WILL SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATIVE ARM THAT FURTHERS THE SMASH TEAM AND THE BRAND.
A SMALL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES ON SITE TO COORDINATE AND PLAN MEETINGS, AS WELL AS GOLF TOURNAMENT PREPARATION, WHICH CONSISTS OF EQUIPMENT ORGANIZING AND UNIFORMS. THERE WILL BE A GOLF SIMULATOR SLASH PUTTING GREEN, WHICH WILL BE FOR PRIVATE USE ONLY.
HERE'S THE PROPOSED USE DESIGNATION PLAN, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE BAIGE IS UNIT 12, AND ESSENTIALLY, ALL WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO SWITCH THAT FROM GENERAL INDUSTRIAL TO PROPOSE OFF ISSUES.
GENERAL SITE DATA IS A 2.2-ACRE PROPERTY.
LAND USE IS INDUSTRIAL, ZONING IS I-1.
IT IS A PART OF THE BIO-SCIENCE RESEARCH PROTECTION OVERLAY, HAS A TOTAL EXISTING BUILDING AREA OF 40,904 SQUARE FEET.
WE HAVE 19,334 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE USE AND 21,570 SQUARE FEET OF GENERAL INDUSTRIAL USE.
120 SPACES REQUIRED; THE SITE CURRENTLY CONTAINS 130 SPACES.
THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST PROCESS IS REQUIRED FOR ANYTHING OVER 02,500 SQUARE FEET FOR A BUSINESS OFFICE.
AS SUCH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT A BUSINESS OFFICE IS CONSIDERED
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A USE BY RIGHT IF IT IS UNDER 2,500 SQUARE FEET.THERE'S MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING USES AS THE SITE IS ALREADY DEVELOPED, AND THIS IS CONSIDERED JUST A USE DESIGNATION AT AN EXISTING FACILITY.
WE DID HAVE A TRAFFIC STATEMENT PREPARED AND WE SUBMITTED IT TO PALM BEACH COUNTY AND DID RECEIVE TPS APPROVAL, AND THAT'S THE LETTER FROM THE COUNTY RIGHT THERE.
MINIMAL EMPLOYEES AND STAFF, IT WILL HAVE LESS THAN TEN EMPLOYEES ON THE SITE.
IT'S NOT EXPECTED TO BE A DETRIMENT TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
INDUSTRIAL VERSUS OFFICE ANALYSIS.
IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, POLICY 1.1.13 STATES THAT OFFICE USES CAN BE ALLOWED AS LONG AS THE INDUSTRIAL PREDOMINANCE REMAINS.
WHAT WE DID IS WE RAN A FEW ANALYSES, BASICALLY ON THE PROPERTY ON THE OVERALL JUPITER PARK OF COMMERCE, AS WELL AS THE ENTIRETY OF THE INDUSTRIAL LAND IN THE TOWN.
WE CONCLUDED THAT THE PREDOMINANCE OF INDUSTRIAL WILL REMAIN.
AS FAR AS THE 1201 AND 1251 JUPITER PARK DRIVE ANALYSIS, PRIMARY INDUSTRIAL USE IS 52.7% OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHILE ADDITIONAL COMPATIBLE USES WILL BE 47.3%.
YES, THE INDUSTRIAL IS MAINTAINED FOR THE SITE.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE JUPITER PARK OF COMMERCE AND THE OVERALL TOWN OF JUPITER, FOR THE JUPITER PARK OF COMMERCE, THE PRIMARY INDUSTRIAL IS 71.9% OF THE CENTER AND 28.1% OF COMPATIBLE USES.
IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, TOTAL WE'RE RIGHT AT 51.9 OF PRIMARY INDUSTRIAL AND 48.1 OF ADDITIONAL COMPATIBLE USES.
AS MENTIONED, THE INDUSTRIAL PREDOMINANCE REMAINS THROUGH ALL FACETS OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION.
IN CLOSING, THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST TO DESIGNATE 05,019 SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING GENERAL INDUSTRIAL USE TO BUSINESS OFFICE, WHICH DOES NOT ADD ANY ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE CENTER.
STAFF FOUND APPLICATION CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING CODE.
WE DO HAVE MASTER POA APPROVAL TO SUBMIT THIS APPLICATION, AND WE REVIEWED THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
WE DON'T TAKE ANY ISSUES WITH THEM.
WE DID SPEAK WITH THE POA, AND THE APPLICANT AND THE POA WILL WORK TO RESOLVE THE PROPERTY LANDSCAPING.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF, AND WE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> GOOD EVENING, FOR THE RECORD, THATCHER HART, PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE.
TONIGHT'S APPLICATION IS FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE FOR SMASH HQ, WHICH IS TO CONVERT 5,019 SQUARE FEET FROM A CONTRACTOR'S OFFICE, WHICH INCLUDED A WAREHOUSE TO OFFICE INSIDE AN INDUSTRIAL I-1 DISTRICT.
BACK IN 2010, POLICY 1.3.13 AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADDED FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PREDOMINANCE TO ADD AS A CRITERIA TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY AND CLARIFY THAT OTHER USES ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AS LONG AS THE PREDOMINANCE USE TYPE REMAINS INDUSTRIAL.
LATER THAT SAME YEAR, IN 2010, THE TOWN CODE WAS AMENDED TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS FOR OFFICE USES THAT WERE OVER 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S WHY THAT'S HERE TONIGHT, THAT REQUIRES A TOWN COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR THAT AS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
TABLE FOUR ON PAGE NINE OF YOUR PACKETS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, OUTLINES THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE IMPACTS OF THE USE CHANGE, AS WELL AS THE OVERALL INDUSTRIAL PREDOMINANCES FOR BOTH THE SITE, JUPITER PARK OF COMMERCE, AND TOWN-WIDE INDUSTRIAL USE CALCULATIONS AS WELL.
STAFF REVIEWED AND DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLIANT WITH POLICY 1.3.13, AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR STAFF REPORTS.
IN ADDITION, UPON REVIEW, STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICATION SATISFIES ALL OF THE MINIMUM SPECIAL EXCEPTION CRITERIA.
HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE ONE CONDITION THAT YOU HEARD AND SAW IN YOUR PACKETS RELATED TO THE LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPERTY.
AS A PART OF THE STANDARD REVIEW PROCESS,
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STAFF CONDUCTS LANDSCAPE INSPECTIONS ON ANY PROPERTY THAT COMES BEFORE US AND FOUND THAT SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING IS MISSING FROM THE APPROVED PLAN THAT WE HAVE ON RECORD FOR THE SITE.YOU'LL SEE THAT PROPOSED CONDITION WITHIN EXHIBIT 1, THAT PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS OR WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST, THE APPLICANT SHALL PLANT THE MISSING VEGETATION AS IDENTIFIED WITHIN YOUR ATTACHMENT C. WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY FULL TIME AND PART TIME EMPLOYEES WOULD BE ENGAGED AT THIS SITE?
>> BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US, IT IS EXPECTED OR ANTICIPATED TO BE ABOUT FOUR.
>> ARE THEY FULL TIME OR PART TIME?
>> DO YOU ANTICIPATE HOSTING ANY FUNCTIONS AT THIS LOCATION?
>> NOT AT THIS MOMENT. IT'S NOT BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT ANY FUNCTIONS WILL BE HELD AT THIS LOCATION.
>> THANKS. COMMISSIONER VINSON.
>> THANK YOU FOR ASKING TWO OF MY QUESTIONS.
YOU SAID FOUR EMPLOYEES AND NO FUNCTIONS.
WHAT EXPECTED DAILY TRAFFIC? IS THERE GOING TO BE CLIENTS IN AND OUT, AND IF SO, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED TRAFFIC?
>> THE EXPECTED TRAFFIC WOULD BE MINIMAL.
I HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED A SCHEDULE OF THOSE MEETINGS, BUT I KNOW AS TOURNAMENT PREPARATION RAMPS UP, THEY HAVE TO MEET WITH DIFFERENT VENDORS OR ORGANIZERS THROUGHOUT THE DAY, BUT IT WON'T BE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT OVER WHAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE TRAFFIC STATEMENT.
>> I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IT WOULD PUT IN THAT AREA.
>> BASED ON THE TRAFFIC REPORT THAT WE HAD DONE, IT'S SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO BE MINIMAL.
BASED ON THE OFFICE USE AND THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS IS NOT GOING TO DEMAND THAT MUCH TRIPS ON THE ROAD.
>> THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS.
>> THANKS. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
>> MY ONLY QUESTIONS ARE REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING.
IT NOT ONLY INCLUDES THE LANDSCAPING AT THE BACK ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING, BUT YOU'RE ALSO AGREEING TO THE LANDSCAPING THAT AFFRONTS JUPITER PARK CIRCLE, THE MISSING TREES?
>> YES, SIR. ALONG THE JUPITER PARK CIRCLE LANE, JUPITER PARK DRIVE INTERSECTION. YES, SIR.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELSO.
>> ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
HAS THE JUPITER PARK DRIVE MASTER ASSOCIATION GIVEN YOU THEIR APPROVAL LETTER FOR THE CHANGE?
>> YES. WE SUBMITTED THE APPROVAL LETTER TO STAFF, WITH THE APPLICATION.
>> GREAT. THEN I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED THE CONCURRENCY RESERVATION LETTER.
AT WHAT POINT IN THE PROCESS WOULD THEY RECEIVE THAT?
>> YEAH. THEY WOULD RECEIVE CONCURRENCY BEFORE COUNCIL.
>> THEN A GENERAL QUESTION ON THE LANDSCAPING.
I NOTICED IN PAST LANDSCAPING PLANS, DID THE TOWN EVER REQUIRE A CERTAIN QUALITY OF PLANT MATERIAL TO GO IN? LIKE FLORIDA FANCY OR NUMBER 1 OR SPECIMEN IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS, ESPECIALLY LIKE NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENTRANCE, TREES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT?
>> PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLUM.
>> THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE REQUEST?
>> I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE FIVE CONDITIONS SET OUT BY STAFF IN THE AMENDED REPORT.
>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> COMMISSIONER CASSATLY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> ANY OPPOSED? NO. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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[4. Center Street / Alternate A1A Redevelopment Overlay Area (ROA) - ]
NEXT, WE'RE ONTO ITEM 3 HERE.CENTER STREET, ALT A1A REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA.
PRESENTATION ON POTENTIAL TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING ROA.
>> GOOD EVENING. STEPHANIE THOBURN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING.
HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT CENTER STREET, OUR HISTORIC MAIN STREET OF JUPITER.
THIS ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, THIS IS A PRECURSOR'S INFORMATIONAL ONLY.
THIS IS TO GET YOU PREPARED FOR THE ORDINANCE THAT'S GOING TO COME LATER ON.
SINCE THERE WAS SOME PREVIOUS WORK WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL AS PART OF A 2023 STRATEGIC INITIATIVE, THE OVERALL STRATEGIC INITIATIVE WAS CALLED AREAS OF LOCAL IMPORTANCE, EXPLORE DESIGNATING DISTINCT AREAS OR DISTRICTS OF LOCAL SIGNIFICANCE THROUGHOUT JUPITER.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, THEY HAVE ACTION ITEMS, AND SO WE WENT AND DID A ROUNDTABLE WITH THE COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY WHICH DISTRICTS AND WHICH AREAS ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.
THEY IDENTIFIED THE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WERE UNIQUE, UNIQUELY JUPITER, WHAT HAS CHARACTER, WHAT DO WE NEED TO HELP? WHERE DO WE NEED TO HELP? THAT ROUNDTABLE OCCURRED IN MID 2023.
THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, WE HAD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL IN LATE 2023.
FIRST OF ALL, WE TALKED ABOUT, IS THE EXISTING CENTER STREET, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT FIRST.
LET'S HANDLE CENTER STREET BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON THERE.
NOT ONLY IS IT AN EXISTING REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA, CENTER STREET AND ALTERNATE A1A IS A REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2010.
WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN 2010? WE WERE GETTING OVER THE RECESSION, SO WE WERE LOOKING AT INCENTIVIZING REDEVELOPMENT.
WHERE WERE WE DOING THAT? IN PLACES WHERE WE HAD OLDER, MORE MATURE PROPERTIES, THAT MAYBE WERE AT LOWER ELEVATIONS.
MAYBE THEY WERE BUILT PRIOR TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, MAYBE THEY HAD HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
THE COUNCIL DECIDED, LET'S LOOK AT CENTER STREET.
WHEN WE MET WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY, SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WERE, WELL, LET'S LOOK AT THIS INCENTIVIZING AS MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT NOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA, LIKE CELEBRATING THE HISTORIC RELEVANCE OF THE AREA OR HAVING ARCHITECTURE THAT IS HISTORICALLY CHARACTERISTIC OF THE AREA.
BUT IT ALSO ALLOWED REDUCTIONS IN FRONT SETBACKS, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, GREEN SPACE.
THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WAS UNIQUE TO THE AREA WAS PRESERVING LARGE TREES FOR EXAMPLE, A SIMPLE THING.
IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THE BUILDING IN TEQUESTA, THAT JUST GOT BUILT ON US1 THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FRONT DOOR IS, SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE ORIENT THE BUILDING TO THE STREET.
THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PARKING AND THEN ENHANCING VIEWS TO THE WATERWAY.
BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? THE WATER AT SAWFISH BAY IS BEHIND ALTERNATE A1A THERE.
THOSE WERE SOME THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS.
WE STARTED LOOKING AT, WELL, WHAT KIND OF AMENDMENTS DOES THE COUNCIL WANT? THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED.
ONE IS GOING FROM INCENTIVE-BASED TO REQUIREMENT.
THE OTHER WAS AROUND BUILDING HEIGHT AND MASSING.
THIS BOARD RECENTLY SAW THE FLAGLER WHARF PROJECT, WHICH IS IN THE ALTERNATE A1A ROA.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS OF ISSUE WAS BUILDING HEIGHT AND MASSING.
ULTIMATELY, THIS BOARD REVIEWED IT, AND IT WAS A TWO-STORY BUILDING, HAD HISTORIC CHARACTERISTICS TO THE ARCHITECTURE.
IT HAD A BUILDING THAT ACTUALLY FRONTED THE STREET, DIDN'T PUT UP A WALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALTERNATE A1A BECAUSE IT'S A HIGHWAY, VERSUS CENTER STREET, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL ALSO SAW AS BEING AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS ROA.
THEN OF COURSE, THE OVERARCHING THEME, WHICH IS THE HISTORIC NATURE OF CENTER STREET.
JUST BECAUSE I'M A HISTORY BUFF, GOING BACK, THIS AREA WAS THE SECOND DOWNTOWN, THE SECOND CENTER OF TOWN.
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THE ORIGINAL CENTER WAS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE INLET.THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CENTER WHERE SUNNY SANDS CAME IN, BUT I WON'T GET INTO THAT BECAUSE I'LL GET OFF TOPIC.
BUT THIS BECAME THE SECOND CENTER OF TOWN, WHICH MADE CENTER STREET CENTER STREET.
IT BECAME THIS PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CONGREGATED.
IT HAS AN AFFINITY FOR PEOPLE, AND IT'S TURNED INTO A DIFFERENT PLACE.
IT'S TURNED INTO A BIG CUT THROUGH, AND IT'S VERY FAST.
WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO BRING THAT CHARACTER BACK? WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS PLANNERS, IS WE LOOK AT WHAT ELSE PEOPLE DO.
THEN WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LOTS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF NON CONFORMITIES OUT THERE, WHICH NO SURPRISE, IT'S OLDER, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE OLDER NON CONFORMING LOTS THAT DON'T MEET AREA AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AREA AND DIMENSIONS, AND ALSO DEVELOPMENTS OR SITES THAT WERE BUILT LONG AGO THAT DON'T MEET CURRENT REGULATIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, MOST, I WOULD SAY, IN THIS AREA, DO NOT MEET THE MINIMUM GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE BACK THEN, WE DIDN'T HAVE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, THAT SOME OF THESE PLACES WERE BUILT IN THE '50S.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AND MAP ALL OF THOSE.
THEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES, IF YOU'VE EVER GONE TO FERRO VIA, WHICH IS NOW THE PATIO STORE, OR RALPH'S STAND UP BAR, IS PARKING.
PART OF THAT CAME ABOUT, IS BECAUSE, I DIDN'T SHOW IT IN THIS ONE, BUT I HAVE A PICTURE BACK IN THE '50S, AND THERE WAS ON STREET PARKING ALL ALONG CENTER STREET WHERE THE COMMERCIAL WAS.
A LOT OF THAT HAS GONE AWAY BECAUSE OF THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD AND SO A LOT OF THE PARKING HAS BEEN REMOVED.
HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE NON CONFORMITIES AND PARKING AND ISSUES WITH GREEN SPACE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS.
BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND OUR NEXT STEPS, WE'RE LOOKING AT COORDINATING THIS EFFORT WITH THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT WITH ALSO THE COUNTY'S EFFORT, WHICH IS IN THEIR FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO WIDEN CENTER STREET WITH THREE LANES, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY OF ALL THAT NOW.
THEY'RE BEYOND FEASIBILITY, THEY'RE STARTING DESIGN.
WITH THAT, KIM DELANEY FROM TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE AFTER THIS DISCUSSION.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH.
WE'RE GOING TO DO AN ONLINE SURVEY.
WE WANT TO HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE.
WE WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY FROM THE AREA TO COME AND GIVE THEIR INPUT.
THEN WE WILL ALSO POST ANY SURVEY RESULTS AND HOPING TO BRING IT TO YOU SEPTEMBER 9TH, AND THEN OCTOBER 1ST TO COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER 18TH, HOPEFULLY.
THESE ARE ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT WITH ALL THIS BEING SAID, JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT IT ALL MAY BE FOR NAUGHT, BECAUSE THERE'S A SENATE BILL THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE THAT BASICALLY SAYS IF IT GETS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR, THE MUNICIPALITIES CANNOT MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT MAKE RULES MORE STRICT WHICH WILL SEVERELY IMPACT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM ADOPTING NEW REGULATIONS SUCH AS THIS ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS ALL OUT THERE FOR YOU.
IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, WE DEFINITELY WILL.
WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AROUND JULY 3RD.
WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE'RE ALL HERE. WE ALL WORKED ON THIS.
IT'S NOT JUST ME. MARTIN SCHNEIDER HERE, AND JOHN SICKLER AND I, WE ALL WORKED ON THIS, AND JENNA JOHNSON.
SHE'S OUR NEW PLANNER AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK.
>> LET'S DO SOME QUESTIONS HERE, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER BLUM.
>> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
>> THANKS, COMMISSIONER CASSATLY?
>> SAME FOR ME. NO QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
>> I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND THIS IS PROBABLY A MUCH LONGER CONVERSATION ABOUT SENATE BILL 180.
IS THERE ANY SUNSET ON THE RESTRICTIONS THAT MUNICIPALITIES CAN MAKE?
>> BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT BACKTRACKS BASED ON THE THREE HURRICANES THAT HIT IN 2024.
IT RESTRICTS YOU FROM MAKING ANY MORE RESTRICTIVE OR BURDENSOME AMENDMENTS FOR A PERIOD ENDING ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2027.
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THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER SECTION THAT SAYS, IF A FUTURE HURRICANE HITS WITHIN 100 MILES OF THAT TRACT, THOSE COUNTIES AND CITIES IN THOSE COUNTIES COULDN'T CHANGE THEIR CODE FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR FOLLOWING THAT EVENT.>> GOT IT. BUT IT DOES EXPIRE.
>> YEAH. WE DON'T GET HIT BY ANY HURRICANES AND WE'RE NOT IN THE TRACT, THEN IT WOULD EXPIRE OCTOBER 1ST 2027.
THE REASON THEY'RE DOING THIS IS TO ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT OF AREAS THAT WERE HIT BY THE HURRICANE IN MORE OPEN?
>> THAT SEEMS TO BE THE LOGIC THAT THEY'RE USING, IS THEY DON'T WANT MORE RESTRICTIONS IN AREAS THAT [INAUDIBLE].
>> IF I COULD ADD, TOM AND I ARE LOOKING OBVIOUSLY INTO SENATE BILL 180 AND THE IMPLICATIONS.
OBVIOUSLY, IT HASN'T BEEN PASSED OR VETOED YET.
BUT WHERE YOU WERE LEADING HIT THE HEAD ON IT, IS WHETHER THAT APPLIES GENERALLY TO ALL DEVELOPMENT IN THESE MUNICIPALITIES VERSUS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY A STORM AND IMPOSING ANYTHING STRICTER THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM JUST GETTING BACK TO PRE-STORM FORM.
BECAUSE IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OVERARCHING IF IT'S NOT TAILORED AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING INTO, AND WE'LL GIVE GUIDANCE TO STAFF AND ALL THE BOARDS ONCE WE KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION IT'S HEADED.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
SORRY. I MAY BE A LITTLE MIXED UP WITH MY NOTES HERE.
>> EXACTLY. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC.
EXACTLY HOW MANY OPEN MEETINGS ARE YOU THINKING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE? BECAUSE JUST ONE MEETING IS DIFFICULT, TIMING WISE, AND FOR PEOPLE TO PLAN THEIR LIVES AROUND JUST HAVING ONE MEETING THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HEAR ABOUT.
I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP WITH THAT REAL QUICK.
IS THERE ANY PLAN FOR ANY TYPE OF MEDIA EXPOSURE LIKE A LARGER AMOUNT OF MEDIA EXPOSURE TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEIR INPUT IS WANTED ON THIS PROJECT.
>> YES, THERE WILL BE MORE THAN ONE MEETING, AND THERE WILL BE MEETINGS RELATED TO THIS ITEM, THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA, ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.
THEN THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE MEETING RELATED TO ROAD IMPACTS AND ROAD CHANGES THAT THE COUNTY'S DOING.
LAND USE AND ROADWAY USES GO TOGETHER, THEY'RE INTEGRAL.
BUT WE WANTED TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SEPARATE MEETINGS FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS.
THEN IN TERMS OF HAVING, IF WE FIND THAT THERE IS A NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL OPEN HOUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'LL DO THAT LIKE A COFFEE WITH COUNSEL.
BUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND WE'VE FOUND THAT IT WORKS REALLY WELL IS DOING ONLINE SURVEYS.
THEN PUSHING THAT OUT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH THE WEBSITE.
BECAUSE THEN IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE AND WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY, YOU'LL REACH DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS, WHEREAS THE PEOPLE WHO WILL COME OUT AND SEE AND VISIT ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NECESSARILY GIVING SURVEY INFORMATION.
IF WE SEE WITH THAT WE NEED TO DO IT AGAIN, WE'LL DEFINITELY DO IT AGAIN.
THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS DEPARTMENT IS INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE EFFORT AS WELL AS TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
THIS IS WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY'RE EXPERTS AT IT, SO WE'RE BRINGING THEM IN TO MAKE SURE WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. WILL THERE BE MEETINGS WITH THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES?
>> WILL THERE BE MEETINGS THAT ARE CENTERED AROUND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS?
>> WHAT WE DO AS PART OF THE OUTREACH IS WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL STAKEHOLDERS MEETINGS, WHICH WE BEGIN OUR LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS, WHETHER THEY BE HOAS OR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE GET WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IN ORDER TO GET CONTEXT OF WHO ARE THE LEADERS BECAUSE IN THIS AREA, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER, SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ALL THE HOAS.
THEN WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL AS BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST WHO EVEN LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED WHO WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND WE'VE STARTED THAT LIST AND WE'VE REACHED OUT, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A FEW FOLKS HERE ALREADY.
>> AS YOU KNOW, IT RUNS DOWN THAT WAY, THAT'S A FAIRLY HISTORIC AREA.
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>> WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
IS THE HISTORIC COMMITTEE OR PANEL GOING TO BE INVOLVED, THE TOWN OF JUPITER HISTORIC COMMITTEE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS IN PRESERVATION AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T GO BACKWARDS AND DAMAGE WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO PRESERVE.
>> THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD, WE PROVIDE INPUT, PROVIDE THEM UPDATES ON ITEMS. AND WE CERTAINLY WILL BRING THAT MESSAGE TO THEM AND GIVE THEM INFORMATION.
THE MAJORITY OF THE AREAS THAT ARE HISTORIC IN TERMS OF STRUCTURES ARE IN THE SINGLE FAMILY AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA.
NOT TO SAY THAT THERE ISN'T ANY, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE SIMS HOUSE, THAT IS NOT IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA, THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE ADAPTIVE REUSE IN IT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE COMMERCIAL SECTION.
ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE THEY LOVE BEING INVOLVED AND WE WANT TO HEAR THEIR INPUT.
>> THANK YOU. SO FAR AS THE ROAD AND THE WIDENING OF IT.
IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT LIKE YOU WERE DISCUSSING THE PARALLEL OR THE DIAGONAL PARKING THAT'S OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THE PATIO STORE IN RALPH?
>> AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD SEEN ANY DESIGNS FROM THE COUNTY.
>> BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE.
>> THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS.
>> PER SE OR THE PART OF THE RETAINING THE OLD FEEL AND NATURE OF IT.
>> WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT YET.
THE COUNTY'S DOING. IT'S THE COUNTY'S ROAD.
>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. IS IT ALL COUNTY OR?
>> ARE THEY TAKING IN DISCUSSION WITH YOU GUYS REGARDING IT?
>> WE'VE MET WITH THEM INITIALLY AND KIM DELANEY IS HERE AND SHE'LL GIVE A PRESENTATION ON MORE OF THE PROJECT RELATED TO THE COUNTY AND THE OUTREACH FOR THAT.
BUT YES, WE'VE HAD INITIAL DISCUSSION.
>> JUST BECAUSE IT IMPACTS LIKE A HISTORICAL AREA THAT YOU WANT TO RETAIN THAT FEEL, WHICH LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION ABOUT THE STUFF THAT'S NOT UP TO OUR CURRENT CODES, SO FAR AS GREEN SPACE AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT SO MUCH, SO YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HAVE THAT NOW, BUT ARE YOU EXPECTING PEOPLE TO BRING STUFF UP TO CODES TO CURRENT CODES, OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN OR WHAT?
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE INVESTIGATING, BUT REALISTICALLY TODAY, IF YOU'RE DOING CERTAIN CHANGES TO YOUR PROPERTY, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO MEET THE ENTIRE CODE UNLESS YOU'RE DOING A WHOLE INCREASE OVER 20%.
THERE'S LEVELS OF BRINGING THINGS UP TO MEET CODE.
BUT THEN THERE'S A BALANCE OF, WELL, WHAT MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF KEEPING THIS FEELING HISTORIC VERSUS OKAY, WE WANT TO BUFFER AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.
>> THAT'S MY POINT. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE HISTORIC AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU CAN'T CHANGE AND SAY EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE OR THE OTHER, OR IT'S A MOOT POINT, YOU'VE MODERNIZED TO THE WHOLE THING.
>> I THINK I'M DONE WITH MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
ONE, THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW WIDE DOES THAT SCOPE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD WE BE CONSIDERING POWER LINE MOVEMENT OR POWER LINE BAR BEING BURIED, THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES, OR IS THAT OUTSIDE THE SCOPE?
>> WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN, THIS IS THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA THAT BOUNDARY IS OUTLINED IN TILL.
THAT'S THE AREA WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT.
WE DO HAVE OTHER AREAS IN TOWN WHERE WE SPECIFICALLY SAY UNDERGROUND ALL UTILITY, ON REDEVELOPMENT, IF YOU MEET CERTAIN THRESHOLD.
I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED.
NOW, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL, IS THE COST NOW OF PUTTING THOSE THINGS UNDERGROUND IS MUCH GREATER THAN IT USED TO BE BECAUSE FP&L RECENTLY HARDENED EVERYTHING ON OUR MAJOR ROADS.
IT'S NOT AS CHEAP AS IT USED TO BE, AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT EXISTING BUSINESSES.
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WE'LL BE INVESTIGATING AND ANALYZING THAT.THE MAIN ISSUES THAT WE LOOKED AT FROM THE COUNCIL WERE BASICALLY FOUR MAIN ITEMS WHICH HAVE OFFSHOOTS, THOSE ARE THE FOUR MAIN ITEMS THAT COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK AT.
IT'S NOT TO SAY WHEN IT COMES THROUGH THIS BOARD, IF SENATE BILL ALLOWS US TO, THAT THIS BOARD CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.
>> THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE TO MY SECOND QUESTION, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE SENATE BILL.
WOULD WE CONSIDER AND THIS IS REALLY ALSO A QUESTION FOR COUNSEL, ASSESSING GROUNDS FOR PROCEEDING, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS SIGNED THE BILL, WE WOULD STILL PROCEED UNDER REASONABLY VALID ARGUMENTS THAT IT CAN BE DISTINGUISHED AND APPLICABLE.
YOU MENTIONED ONE SUCH ARGUMENT ALREADY THAT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO CERTAIN AREAS THAT WERE IMPACTED BY STORMS. I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S PREMATURE TO ASK THAT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME ONE QUESTION WE WOULD HAVE IS, SHOULD WE PROCEED ANYWAY UNDER ARGUMENT THAT IT SHOULD BE DISTINGUISHED AND NOT APPLICABLE?
>> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT STAFF IS CONTINUING TO WORK FOR WORK AND ANALYZE THE ISSUES.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THESE ITEMS. WE'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ALSO SAY BECAUSE ONCE IF IT GETS APPROVED, WHICH IT MOST LIKELY WILL, THEN THERE'S USUALLY SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW IT WILL BE ACTUALLY LAID OUT AND ADMINISTERED.
THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR OPINIONS FROM THE ATTORNEYS AS WELL AS OUR OWN.
IT IS A WAIT AND SEE A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S A STRATEGIC PRIORITY FOR THE STAFF.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT AREA FOR THE TOWN.
ALL OF THIS RESEARCH IS NOT FOR NOT.
>> IF YOU'RE READY, I'D LOVE TO INTRODUCE KIM DELANEY.
IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T MET HER YET.
SHE'S WITH TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
I'LL BRING UP HER AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE HER WORKING WITH US ON THIS. OH, I'M SORRY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. LET ME JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC ON CHANGES.
THAT'S RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
>> YES. IF I CAN HAVE MR. JOHN KAKU COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES TO EXPRESS YOUR COMMENTS.
I LIVE AT 917 NORTH LOXAHATCHEE DRIVE, AND BEING THAT I'VE LIVED ON THAT STREET FOR 34 YEARS, AND BEING AWARE WITH THE BASICALLY SETBACKS OF THINGS, BEING A GENERAL CONTRACTOR SINCE 2085, BUILDING A LOT IN JUPITER, MOSTLY COMMERCIAL.
I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS THE OLD TOWN FEEL, THERE'S ONLY FOUR BUILDINGS OUT THERE, AND MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN REDONE.
IN MY OPINION, STEPHANIE MAY CORRECT ME.
WE HAVE THE CHURCH THAT THEY JUST REBUILT A FEW YEARS AGO.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER OLD RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT'S TURNED INTO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOTALLY COMMERCIAL OR SOME COMMERCIAL ELEMENT RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, THAT'S BEEN REDONE.
THAT IS A HISTORICAL IN MY OPINION, BUT IT IS WHERE IT IS, AND YOU HAVE THE PATIO SHOP.
TO ME, WITHIN THE CENTER STREET QUARTER, THOSE ARE THE ONLY FOUR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
AS FAR AS PUTTING ANY LANDSCAPING, AS FAR AS EVEN PARKING IN THE.
BECAUSE WE RIDE OUR BIKES, WE WALK CONSTANTLY THERE.
IT'S LIKE TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS, ESPECIALLY IN FRONT OF RALPH'S AND THE PATIO STORE BECAUSE WHEN THEY EXPANDED CENTER STREET, THEY HAVE CARS HANGING OUT THERE.
WHEN BRIGHT LINE CAME IN, THEY DID US NO FAVORS AS FAR AS THE WAY THEY PUT IN THE CROSSWALKS, YOU GET THE HANDICAP RAMP.
THAT WHOLE THING FROM A GOVERNMENTAL PERSPECTIVE IS BY CODE, BUT FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, IT IS NOT.
BACK TO THE POINT OF, I GUESS, CHANGING MUCH AS FAR AS THE LAYOUT OR LANDSCAPING, FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT LEAST FOR THE RALPHS AND THE PATIO STORE.
AS FAR AS CODE, I'VE BEEN IN BOTH IN YESTERDAY'S BUILDING, YOU HAD BLOCK LIST. THEY WERE HARD.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY HAD TODAY, AS FAR AS THE QUALITY OF THE MATERIALS, EVEN THOUGH THE WAY THEY ARE PUT TOGETHER IS MUCH BETTER.
AS FAR AS CHANGING ANY OF THAT IN MY OPINION, IS JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS THEY KNOCK THEM
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DOWN BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING TO DO CENTER STREET, WHICH BACKS INTO THIS AND BEING LIVING ON THERE, DOWN THERE, YOU'RE EXPANDED AS FAR AS YOU CAN GET.AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL PARKING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I WILL, SINCE YOU WERE DISCUSSING AS FAR AS THE UPCOMING CENTER STREET.
I THINK OTHER THAN SOME GREEN SPACES BETWEEN LOCK HATCH RIVER ROAD AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS, THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN AREAS WHERE YOU CAN EXPAND.
LIMITED HOW FAR YOU CAN GO AND I WOULD ASSUME AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING AND I'M JUMPING THE GUN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE LANES, HOPEFULLY.
TURNING LANE BOTH WAYS IN THE MIDDLE AND ONE GOING LEFT AND ONE COMING EAST, ONE GOING WEST BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS WHEN IT SLOWS DOWN THERE PEOPLE GOING TO TRY TO TURN LEFT OR RIGHT IN THE TRAFFIC THERE EVER SINCE THE THE NEW BRIDGE AND THE EXPANSION OF ALL THE HOUSING, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.
I MEAN, IN THE WAY THAT WE THERE'S A COUNTY, DOT DESIGNED, THE CENTER STREET GOING NORTH ON ALTERNATE A1A, EVERYTHING NOW HAS BECOME A RACE TO GET IN THE LEFT LANE BECAUSE TEQUESTA TOOK OFF THEIR I GUESS FOUR LANES.
NOW YOU HAVE TWO LANES THERE AND GOING ONTO TEQUESTA DRIVE, WHICH IS OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR TURNING NOW.
I USED TO BEFORE WHEN JUPITER AND TEQUESTA WAS SMALLER.
YOU MIGHT HAVE TEN CARS. NOW IT BACKS UP OVER THE BRIDGE.
SAME THING NOW WHEN THEY HAVE A LIGHT THAT TURNS ON OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY.
SAME THING WHEN YOU TURN ON US ONE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S BEEN THROWN ON US BY THE PEOPLE GETTING OFF INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THOSE ARE THE PROBLEM, AND NOT JUST A COMMON SENSE PROBLEM.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT THE INPUT AS FAR AS THE OVERLAY AREA AND WHAT REALLY NEEDED TO BE DONE AS FAR AS ON THESE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
I DON'T SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AGAIN, AS I SAID, I'M JUMPING THE GUN AS FAR AS MY OPINION OF WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH CENTER STREET.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT CARD FOR THIS ITEM.
>> ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE COMMISSION? WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM,
[5. Center Street Corridor Improvements]
WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM 4.THIS IS THE CENTER STREET RIGHT AWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
THE PRESENTATION IS TO INTRODUCE THE PROCESS TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC OUTREACH TO GET INPUT ON THE PROPOSED CENTER STREET ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS UNDER DESIGN BY PALM BEACH COUNTY.
>> APOLOGIES. I JUST GOT A MINT FROM STEPHANIE, SO IT'LL TAKE A MOMENT.
KIM DELANEY FOR THE RECORD, FROM TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT.
>> MRS. DELANEY, COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE TREASURE COAST PLANNING COMMISSION COMMITTEE IS?
>> CERTAINLY. FLORIDA HAS 10 REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILS.
REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILS ARE ESTABLISHED IN STATE STATUTE AND EVERY COUNTY IS WITHIN A REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL FOR REGIONAL PLANNING PURPOSES.
THE TREASURE COAST REGION HAS FOUR COUNTIES; PALM BEACH, MARTIN, ST. LUCIE, AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTIES, SO ABOUT 2.4 MILLION PEOPLE.
THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILS ARE TASKED AS AGENCIES TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S WHY THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILS WERE CREATED UP IN THE 1970S.
[NOISE] PARDON ME. I'M SO SORRY.
THERE'S A MINT HERE. IT'LL BE GONE IN A MOMENT.
FLORIDA'S GROWTH PRESSURES WERE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN THE 1970S AS THE STATE STARTED TO EXPAND.
WHEN THE STATE OF FLORIDA REQUIRED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PUT COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING IN PLACE AND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT WAS PASSED, REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILS WERE CREATED IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
THERE WAS AN EXPECTATION OR A REALIZATION THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE SOME IMPACTS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD REALLY BE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL.
INDIVIDUAL TOWNS LIKE THE TOWN OF JUPITER DEALING WITH LARGE-SCALE PROJECTS LIKE SCRIPPS, MAX PLANCK, AND THE BIOSCIENCE OVERLAY, FOR EXAMPLE.
THESE ARE REALLY MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL PROJECTS.
EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT OCCUR JUST IN ONE JURISDICTION, THERE'S MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
PLANNING COUNCILS WERE, AGAIN, ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF ASSISTANCE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AS NEEDED, AND ALSO HANDLE LARGE-SCALE REGIONAL PROJECTS, LIKE MAJOR ROADWAY PROJECTS, WATER STORAGE, RESTORATION, POWER PLANT SITING, AIRPORTS, LARGE-SCALE PROJECTS, AGAIN, THAT HAVE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL IMPACTS.
WE ALSO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR EMERGENCY EVACUATION, HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS.
WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH BOTH THE STATE AND FED ON EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND TRAINING FIRST RESPONDERS.
WE HAVE A LOW INTEREST LOAN PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER FOR BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT
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THE REGION THAT'S OVERSEEN BY AN APPOINTED BOARD.WE WERE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF ASSISTANCE.
>> WHERE DOES THE FUNDING COME FROM?
>> THE FUNDING IS FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES.
THE BASE FUNDING FOR REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILS IS A PER CAPITA ALLOCATION FROM EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL COUNTIES.
THIS IS A BASE LEVEL SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND COUNTIES, AND THAT'S FUNDED REALLY THROUGH THOSE COUNTY DOLLARS.
THEN WHEN THE COUNCILS PROVIDE SPECIFIC ASSISTANCE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, TAKING THE TOWN THROUGH A CONVERSATION ABOUT A CENTER STREET PROJECT.
THAT SPECIFIC ASSISTANCE IS FUNDED BY EITHER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT RECEIVES THAT ASSISTANCE OR THE AGENCY THAT REQUESTED THAT ASSISTANCE.
>> WE HAVE A 28-MEMBER BOARD, 18 ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND 10 GUBERNATORIAL APPOINTEES.
THE COUNCILS ONLY WORK FOR PUBLIC ENTITIES.
WE DO NOT DO ANY PRIVATE WORK.
WE'RE A PUBLIC AGENCY AND NON-PROFIT, FOR THAT PURPOSE.
THAT'S THE BACKGROUND OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
FOR THIS PROJECT, THE TOWN ASKED FOR US TO ASSIST WITH A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION REALLY ABOUT CENTER STREET AND TO ASSIST IN ANALYZING THAT PROJECT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY.
IT IS FUNDED AND IT IS IN MOTION, BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF ISSUES RELATED TO CENTER STREET THAT ARE VERY LOCAL IN NATURE.
WE PROVIDE A LOT OF THAT TYPE OF FACILITATION WORK WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, ESPECIALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO PROJECTS LIKE ROADWAY PROJECTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT HAVE A HEAVY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT NEED, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE SPECIALTY THAT WE HAVE AS AN AGENCY.
WITH THAT, FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW ABOUT THE CENTER STREET PROJECT.
CENTER STREET, OF COURSE, AS YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING, IS IN NORTHERN PART OF JUPITER.
THE WESTERN PART OF THE ROAD WAS ALREADY IMPROVED OR WIDENED, REALLY, BACK IN 2018.
THE COUNTY NOW HAS FUNDING SET ASIDE TO WIDEN CENTER STREET FROM LOXAHATCHEE RIVER ROAD, EAST TO A1A.
THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION IN FY2028.
WE'RE ABOUT THREE YEARS OUT FROM THAT PROJECT HAPPENING.
THERE'S A LITTLE SHEET FROM THE COUNTY'S ROADWAY PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THE COUNTY HAS A MILLION DOLLARS ALLOCATED FOR ENGINEERING WORK AND ABOUT TWO-AND-A-HALF MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THEY'RE IN THE BEGINNING OF THEIR PROCESS.
WORKING WITH THE TOWN STAFF, WE'VE ALREADY ENGAGED WITH THE COUNTY AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE.
THERE'S A SET OF PRELIMINARY PLANS THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO THE TOWN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS SO THAT YOU CAN BEGIN THAT PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COUNTY'S NEEDS ARE WITH RESPECT TO CAPACITY ON THE ROAD, IF YOU WILL, AND WHAT YOUR NEEDS AND DESIRES ARE AS A COMMUNITY.
THE ROAD HAS WHAT'S CALLED A FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION.
ALL ROADS HAVE A FUNCTIONAL ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION THAT JUST IDENTIFIES WHAT THE ROLE IS OF THAT ROAD IN THE LARGER TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
CENTER STREET IS ACTUALLY CLASSIFIED AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR IN THE URBAN CATEGORY, WHICH SOUNDS SURPRISING BECAUSE THERE AREN'T A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT JUPITER THAT FEEL REALLY URBAN WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OTHER PLACES.
BUT IN TERMS OF ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION, THAT'S THE CLASSIFICATION THAT IS ASSIGNED TO THIS PARTICULAR ROAD.
THIS IS A SLIDE THAT YOU CANNOT READ, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL AVAILABLE ON THE TPA OR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY WEBSITE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS MEAN.
FOR A MAJOR COLLECTOR IN THE URBAN CATEGORY, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT FACILITY WOULD BE 2-4 LANES IN WIDTH.
IT WOULD HAVE LANES THAT ARE ABOUT 10-11 FEET.
THEY CAN VARY DEPENDING ON THE LAND USE CONTEXT OF THAT FACILITY.
TYPICAL SPEEDS ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE 30-45 MILE AN HOUR RANGE.
WHAT'S POSTED AND HOW PEOPLE DRIVE AREN'T ALWAYS THE SAME THING, BUT THAT'S THE DESIGN SPEED EXPECTATION FOR CENTER STREET.
A LITTLE DETAIL ABOUT THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE STANDARD FOR URBAN COLLECTORS LIKE CENTER STREET.
THE EXPECTATION IS THERE'D BE SIDEWALK WIDTHS OF 6-10 FEET, SOME TYPE OF BICYCLE FACILITY, LIKELY IN THE 4-6 FOOT RANGE.
THEN AGAIN, THOSE LANES WOULD BE 10-11 FEET IN WIDTH.
THE PALM BEACH TPA OR THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY, WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LARGE-SCALE PLANNING AND FUNDING IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, MAINTAINS AN ANALYSIS OF THE BIKE NETWORK IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
CENTER STREET, BECAUSE IT HAS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF BICYCLE TRAFFIC,
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IS ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED AS A TIER 1 FACILITY, REALLY RAISING THE PRIORITY FOR THAT FACILITY AS A QUARTER THAT NEEDS TO HAVE BICYCLE ACCOMMODATIONS CONSIDERED PRIMARILY AS ROADS ARE DESIGNED.THE REASON THAT ROAD HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A TIER 1 BICYCLE FACILITY IS BECAUSE THERE'S A HISTORY OF SOME CRASHES ON THE CORRIDOR.
THIS MAP IS A LITTLE CLIP OF THE CRASH MAP THAT EXISTS WITH THE TPA THAT RECORDS ALL OF THE CRASHES FROM ALL OF THE DATA SOURCES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CRASHES WITH SOME FATALITIES ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, WHICH IS THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT MAP.
A1A ALSO HAS SOME CHALLENGES, AND CENTER STREET IS NOT ALONE IN THAT.
OVER THE FIVE-YEAR TIMEFRAME, AND THAT'S THE FIVE-YEAR TIMEFRAME REPRESENTED IN THIS MAP, THERE ARE SOME SAFETY CHALLENGES THAT HAVE BEEN EVIDENCED BY CRASHES HAPPENING.
AS YOU ALREADY KNOW FROM STEPHANIE'S PRESENTATION THAT JUST PRECEDED, THE TOWN MAINTAINS A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT LOOKS AT LARGE-SCALE ISSUES ON A LONG-TERM BASIS ANNUALLY.
CENTER STREET IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAS MAINTAINED POSITION IN THE TOWN STRATEGIC PLAN OVER TIME.
THERE ARE TWO PARTICULAR STRATEGIC PLANNING AREAS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO CENTER STREET.
ONE OF THOSE IS THE TOWN'S FOCUS ON MOBILITY, AND IN PARTICULAR, THINKING ABOUT STRATEGIES TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS AND THE NUMBER OF CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE PEDESTRIANS, VEHICLES, AND CYCLISTS.
MOST COMMUNITIES MAINTAIN THAT AS A PRIORITY, BUT CENTER STREET IS PARTICULARLY ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES IN THE TOWN THAT IS A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE AS TO THOSE MOBILITY CONCERNS.
THE OTHER COMPONENT IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, OF COURSE, THAT YOU'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH, I WOULD IMAGINE, AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, IS THE TOWN'S DESIRE TO VERY CAREFULLY MANAGE GROWTH.
OF COURSE, THE CENTER STREET AREA IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS OF LOCAL IMPORTANCE THAT HAS A LONGSTANDING HISTORY OF PRIORITY IN THE TOWN.
CENTER STREET IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF HOW THAT AREA IS GOING TO FUNCTION.
MOST REAL ESTATE IN MOST COMMUNITIES IS MADE UP OF THE ROADWAY NETWORK.
YOU CAN DO YOUR BEST JOB ON THE PRIVATE SIDE OF THE LINE, BUT WHAT MOST PEOPLE EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY COME TO TOWN IS BEING ON THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
WHEN IT COMES TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND IMPROVING CONDITIONS, WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON HOW ROADS ARE DETAILED AND HOW THEY FUNCTION BECAUSE THAT IS, AGAIN, THE FIRST AND LAST EXPERIENCE MOST PEOPLE HAVE AS THEY ACCESS A PROPERTY OR LEAVE IT.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE TOWN'S TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, THIS IS A LITTLE CLIP FROM THE COMP PLAN.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS REALLY EVIDENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT CENTER STREET'S RELATIONSHIP IN THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IS THAT, AND ONE OF YOUR EARLIER SPEAKERS TOUCHED ON THIS, AS GROWTH HAS CONTINUED TO EXPAND INTO TEQUESTA AND THERE'S A GREATER DEMAND FOR FOLKS ACCESSING I95, CENTER STREET IS REALLY CLEARLY ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF QUARTERS THAT'S TAKING A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGH JUPITER, BUT NOT NECESSARILY TO JUPITER.
THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY FIND A LOT OF CONFLICTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE DESIGN OF FACILITIES THAT HAVE A HEAVY RESIDENTIAL BASIS.
THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO WALK OR RIDE THEIR BIKE OR THEY WANT TO WALK OR RIDE THEIR BIKE OR PUSH SOMEBODY IN A STROLLER OR TAKE THEIR DOG FOR A WALK OR TAKE A SCOOTER TO GO DOWNTOWN AND GET A DOUGHNUT.
WHEN CARS ARE TRAVELING THROUGH A COMMUNITY, THEY BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY.
DRIVERS BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO A PLACE.
IT REALLY IS VERY EVIDENT AS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE FUNCTION ON THE ROAD.
WHEN YOU'RE ON THAT QUARTER, AND WE'VE SPENT A GOOD BIT OF TIME JUST TRYING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THE CHALLENGES THERE, YOU CAN FEEL IT WHEN SOMEBODY REALLY WANTS TO GET PAST YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO ALL OF THE INTERFERENCE, IF YOU WILL, ON THE SIDE, WHICH IS ALL THE DRIVEWAYS AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
THAT, I THINK, IS ONE OF THE REASONS THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO ASSIST IN THE CONVERSATION.
AGAIN, WE MET WITH THE COUNTY AND HAD A KICKOFF CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
WE'VE PROVIDED THE COUNTY SOME BACKGROUND DOCUMENTS THAT YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, BUT THE COUNTY WASN'T AS FAMILIAR.
THEY NOW HAVE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOUR TREE STUDY AND YOUR EXPECTATION WITH RESPECT TO THE TYPES AND CALIBER OF TREES THAT SHOULD BE PLANTED ON MAJOR CORRIDORS, AND ALSO YOUR STORMWATER UTILITIES PLANNING.
THERE'S SOME FLOODING HISTORY ON THAT CORRIDOR.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WHEN YOU ADD ASPHALT IN A CONDITION WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE A FLOODING CHALLENGE.
WELL, THAT STORMWATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE AND WE DON'T WANT IT DUMPING DIRECTLY TO TIDE.
WE HAVE TO TREAT IT BEFORE IT MOVES.
THOSE ARE ALL MEASURES, IF YOU WILL, THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE PROCESS.
STEPHANIE ALREADY TOUCHED ON IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, THAT AGAIN, THIS IS AN AREA OF LOCAL IMPORTANCE, AND SO WE HAVE THAT AS A PRIMARY CHARGE AS WE APPROACH THE PROJECT ON YOUR BEHALF.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS
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THAT BECOME EVIDENT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT CENTER STREET.ONE OF THOSE IS ACTUALLY A NATIONAL MOVE THAT USED TO BE REFERRED TO AS TARGET ZERO.
THAT IS AN EXPECTATION THAT TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS SHOULD BE DESIGNED WITH A GOAL THAT THERE WOULD BE ZERO FATALITIES AND THERE WOULD BE ZERO SERIOUS INJURIES ON THE NETWORK.
NOW, THAT IS AN ASPIRATIONAL STANDARD BECAUSE WE ALL LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE LOTS OF VERY TROUBLING HEADLINES OFTEN.
BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WHEN TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES ARE DESIGNED, THAT SHOULD BE THE GOAL.
THE TPA, OR THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY HAS SET A COUNTYWIDE EXPECTATION, AND THE TOWN IS ONE OF THOSE ENTITIES THAT HAS RAISED THE FLAG AND SAID, WE WANT TO HAVE A CLEAR EXPECTATION THAT WHEN WE'RE WORKING IN THE TRANSPORTATION ARENA, OUR EXPECTATION IS ZERO FATALITIES AND ZERO SERIOUS INJURIES, AND SO WE NEED TO DO OUR VERY BEST JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CARRY THAT MISSION OUT.
ONE OF THE WAYS THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED IN COMMUNITIES IS BY SHIFTING THE FOCUS IN ROADWAYS FROM JUST FOCUSING ON HOW MANY CARS CAN MOVE COMFORTABLY THROUGH A SPACE, AND INSTEAD, THINKING ABOUT ROADS AS COMPLETE STREETS.
COMPLETE STREETS IS THAT TERM THAT'S NOW BECOME POPULARIZED IN THE LAST DECADE OR SO, AND THE NAME REALLY DESCRIBES WHAT THAT THINKING IS.
COMPLETE STREETS ARE STREETS THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR THE COMPLETE RANGE OF USERS.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE TRAVELING PUBLIC.
THE TRAVELING PUBLIC IS MOVING BEHIND THE WHEEL OF THE CAR, BUT THE TRAVELING PUBLIC IS ALSO WALKING AND RIDING THEIR BIKE AND ON A SCOOTER AND SOMETIMES IN A WHEELCHAIR AND SOMETIMES TAKING TRANSIT.
THAT'S REALLY A MUCH MORE DIVERSE GROUP OF USERS ON A TRANSPORTATION FACILITY.
HISTORICALLY, MANY ROADS WERE DESIGNED WITH A FOCUS ON MOVING AS MANY CARS AS QUICKLY AND CLEANLY AS POSSIBLE THROUGH A QUARTER, BUT IF YOU ZOOM OUT AND THINK ABOUT ALL THE USERS ON THE NETWORK, THE ROADWAY DESIGN IS BEING RECONSIDERED IN MANY PLACES BECAUSE THOSE OTHER USERS WEREN'T PRIMARY IN THE DESIGN FOCUS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT CENTER STREET AND THINK ABOUT WHO'S MOVING ON CENTER STREET, THESE ARE JUST PHOTOS FROM ONE DAY.
THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE SIDEWALK AND THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE BIKE LANE.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY HARD TO SEE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT ROADWAY DESIGN, WHICH IS THE VISIBILITY FOR THOSE OTHER USERS, HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ABILITY FOR THAT QUARTER TO FUNCTION AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE.
IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY THUS FAR, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF SUBJECTS THAT WE'RE REALLY ELEVATING IN THE DISCUSSION TO BE SURE THAT WHEN THE ROAD IS DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED, IT APPROPRIATELY ACCOMMODATES THAT RANGE OF USERS IN A WAY THAT'S RIGHT FOR JUPITER.
THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT ARE USED, SOME IN JUPITER AND SOME IN OTHER PLACES.
AS WE GET INTO OUR PUBLIC DISCUSSION WITH YOU AS A COMMUNITY, WE'LL LOOK FOR FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU? THE ROAD HAS SOME VISIBILITY CHALLENGES, AND SO THINGS LIKE LIGHTED CROSSWALKS CAN HELP IF THERE'S A LOCATION WHERE IT'S NOT REALLY AS VISIBLE FOR DRIVERS.
YOU CAN USE TEXTURED CROSSWALKS OR PROTECTED CROSSWALKS FOR PEOPLE TO GET SAFELY BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE STREET.
THESE ARE JUST SOME IDEAS, REALLY NOT FOR PARTICULAR FEEDBACK TONIGHT, BUT JUST AT A 20,000 FOOT LEVEL.
THERE ARE WAYS TO DESIGN CORRIDORS SO THAT THEY ADD TO THE PLACEMAKING OF A COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH JUPITER AND NOT TO JUPITER ON THAT ROAD, IT MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME DESIGN AS A ROAD THAT YOU REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO COME TO JUPITER AND COME TO THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ON THE CENTER STREET CORRIDOR.
ROADWAY DESIGN CAN DO THAT FOR YOU, DEPENDING HOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED.
DECORATIVE LIGHTING VERSUS STANDARD LIGHTING, LIGHTING THAT INCLUDES BANNER SIGNAGE.
LANDSCAPE MATERIALS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO A PLACE.
ADDING BALLARDS AND STREET FURNITURE IN LOCATIONS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.
LANDSCAPING CAN BE IN THE FORM OF BIOSWALES.
THE TOWN IS ONE OF THE LEADERS, FRANKLY, IN THE REGION IN USING THOSE LANDSCAPE TECHNIQUES THAT HAVE A DUAL PURPOSE.
LOOKS GREAT AND CLEANS THE STORMWATER.
YOU WANT TO GAIN THE MOST EFFICIENCY YOU CAN ONCE YOU MAKE A PUBLIC INVESTMENT, CERTAINLY.
>> OTHER DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS, REALLY FOCUS ON THE BICYCLE TRAFFIC ON THE CORRIDOR.
WHAT WE KNOW IS WHEN A THIRD LANE IS ADDED AND YOU GET A SCRAMBLE LANE IN THE MIDDLE, THE VIEW FOR DRIVERS BECOMES MUCH WIDER.
AS YOU HAVE A LARGER AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT TO VIEW AS A DRIVER, YOUR RANGE OF FOCUS BECOMES MORE DISTANT.
AS YOUR RANGE BECOMES MORE DISTANT, YOU SEE LESS ON THE SIDES OF THE ROAD.
WHEN THE KIDS RIDING A SCOOTER,
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SOMEBODY'S RIDING A BIKE, THEY TAKE A TURN INTO THE ROAD, YOU DON'T SEE THEM AS QUICKLY WHEN YOU HAVE MORE ASPHALT TO VIEW AS A DRIVER.THINKING CAREFULLY ABOUT BICYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONE OF THE UM, THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO PRIORITIZE AS A COMMUNITY.
THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT.
THERE ARE PROTECTED BIKE LANES, THERE ARE GREEN BIKE LANES.
THERE ARE SEPARATED BICYCLE FACILITIES.
THERE ARE MULTI-USE PATHS THAT ACCOMMODATE BOTH BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
THOSE ARE ALL ELEMENTS THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PREJUDICE IN MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE DO WANT TO DO OUR BEST JOB OF LAYING OUT ALL THE OPTIONS, SO YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THAT AS A COMMUNITY AND CONSTRUCT THE COMBINATION OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAKES SENSE.
JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER EXAMPLES, OF COURSE, STREET TREES IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, AND TREE COVERAGE IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT PART OF WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU'RE IN JUPITER AND YOU SPEND TIME HERE, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ELEMENTS, OF COURSE, THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO PRIORITIZE.
WITH THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE UNDERWAY WITH DUE DILIGENCE AT THIS POINT AND BEGINNING OUTREACH CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS ONE.
THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER AS TO WHAT TYPE OF PROCESS WOULD TAKE PLACE AND WHAT WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENGAGE.
WE'RE A PUBLIC AGENCY, AND WE CHARACTERIZE ALL THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH AS MUCH PUBLIC INPUT AS POSSIBLE.
WE FEEL AS AN AGENCY THAT WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THERE'S BEEN REALLY SOLID PUBLIC INPUT, THEY CAN MAKE MORE INFORMED DECISIONS AND BE MORE CONFIDENT IN THAT DECISION MAKING.
WE WILL BE SCHEDULING A SERIES OF FOCUS GROUP DISCUSSIONS, WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF TO HAVE A FOCUS GROUP WITH RESIDENTS, A FOCUS GROUP WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.
I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT OF THOSE AVAILABLE IN THE TIME FRAME THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT.
WE ALSO ARE EXPECTING A PUBLIC WORKSHOP IN THE OF JULY, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF NOW TO GET A DATE PINNED DOWN THAT HAS ENOUGH ROOM SO WE HAVE PROPER ADVERTISING AHEAD OF TIME.
STEPHANIE MENTIONED, I THINK, ALREADY, THERE WILL BE ONLINE ENGAGEMENT AS WELL.
WE RUN OUR PUBLIC WORKSHOPS NOW WITH A PUBLIC INTERFACE.
IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE WORKSHOP, YOU CAN STILL WATCH IT ON ZOOM.
YOU CAN SEND QUESTIONS IN, AND WE TRY TO GET EVERYTHING RECORDED AND ANSWERED TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
THEN WITH THAT INPUT, WE'LL GET INTO A DESIGN PROCESS IN THE LATE SUMMER AND WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO BRING BACK IN THE EARLY FALL.
THAT'S OUR TIME FRAME. I HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION HERE.
STEPHANIE IS REALLY OUR POINT OF CONTACT, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY IF YOU HAVE THEM.
WITH THAT [INAUDIBLE] COVER WHAT IS NEEDED.
>> THANK YOU. JUST TO FRAME, I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF US TONIGHT WHO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
IS TONIGHT'S MEETING INTENDED TO GET A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT, OR IS THIS JUST SET THE STAGE FOR HOW IT'S GOING TO BE SOLICITED?
>> IT'S A SET TO STAGE CONVERSATION, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE WHATEVER LEVEL OF INPUT YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE.
THIS IS YOUR MEETING AND WE'RE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE.
BUT THE MORE FORMAL PART OF THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS REALLY WILL BEGIN LATER IN THE MONTH OF JULY.
WHERE AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE A SMALL FOCUS GROUP DISCUSSIONS.
I THINK THE PATIENT WOULD HAVE 6-8 OR SO IN A VERY STRUCTURED WORKSHOP SETTING WITH A SET OF PLANS OUT WHERE WE CAN PINPOINT THIS TREE IS GOOD AND THIS CAR IS IN THE WRONG PLACE, THAT LEVEL OF GRANULAR DETAIL.
THEN OUR PUBLIC WORKSHOP WILL BE A TOWN HALL FORMAT.
AGAIN, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR A VERY DETAILED DISCUSSION WITH PROPER PLANS AND VISUAL INFORMATION, SO WE CAN BE VERY SPECIFIC WITH THAT.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO THIS EVENING IS WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
THEN THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR FOLKS WHO ARE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO STEP TO THE PODIUM AND ASK QUESTIONS OR OFFER COMMENTS.
STARTING WITH THE COMMISSION, LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR STAFF, AND THAT IS AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN JULY AND AUGUST, AND I THINK THE EARLIEST WE WOULD BE SCHEDULED TO HEAR ANYTHING WOULD BE SEPTEMBER.
COULD YOU PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH INTERIM STATUS REPORTS AS THESE THINGS OCCUR OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS SO THAT IT DOESN'T HIT US ALL AT ONCE IN SEPTEMBER, WE WILL HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING ALONG AND RECEIVING SOME UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE MEETINGS AS THEY OCCUR, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. THAT WAS IT.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER VINSON?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THIS TIME.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE BICYCLE TRAFFIC,
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WHERE IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU BROUGHT UP THAT THE PRIMARY CONCERN WITH THE ENTIRE PROJECT.THE BICYCLES ARE A PRIMARY CONCERN OVER VEHICULAR TRAFFIC?
>> NO. BUT EQUITABLY CONSIDERED WITH TRAFFIC.
THE ROAD WILL ABSOLUTELY BE WIDENED.
HOW IT'S WIDENED AND HOW IT ACCOMMODATES VEHICLES IS THE FUNDING RATIONALE FOR THE WIDENING.
RAISING A FOCUS ON BICYCLE COMFORT AND SAFETY AND PEDESTRIAN COMFORT AND SAFETY IS WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST AS IMPORTANT AS MOVING VEHICLES THROUGH WITH THE WIDEN ROAD; HOWEVER IT'S WIDEN.
>> EQUAL STATUS FOR BICYCLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE?
>> THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU AS A COMMUNITY.
THAT'S HOW OTHER AGENCIES HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT CORRIDOR.
THEY'VE RAISED A FLAG AND SAID BICYCLE SAFETY IS A CHALLENGE HERE.
PAY ATTENTION TO IT, AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE MISSION, I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BY THE TOWN COUNCIL IS TO DO THAT.
>> THE TRAVELING PUBLIC WOULD BE DEFINED THEN AS VEHICLES, BICYCLES, AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC?
THE TRAVELING PUBLIC IS VARIED IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
I THINK MOST OF YOUR TRAVELING PUBLIC IS EITHER DRIVING CARS, BIKES, WALKING, OR ON SCOOTERS. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
>> HAVE THERE BEEN TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE THAT SHOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF EACH ONE OF THOSE IS MADE UP, LET'S SAY, 70% IS VEHICULAR, 20% PEDESTRIAN, ETC.?
>> I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE COUNTS YET, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH YOUR STAFF TO SEE IF THEY CAN PUT A TUBE OUT TO PULL SOME OF THE COUNTS.
>> THEN ONE OTHER THING THAT I THOUGHT OF, SAFETY CONCERNS, WITH THE DESIGNATION OF SEVERE INJURY, WHAT CONSTITUTES A SEVERE INJURY? WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF A SEVERE INJURY?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE THAT.
I THINK IT'S HOSPITALIZATION, BUT I'LL CONFIRM THAT.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON MY PART.
I KNOW EVERYBODY AGREES THAT EBIKES ARE BECOMING JUST PROLIFIC EVERYWHERE.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOT A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON TRADITIONAL BIKE LANE DESIGN WITH THE USE OF EBIKES?
>> IT HAS. IT HAS AN IMPACT ON SIDEWALK DESIGN ALSO.
YEAH BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO RIDE THEIR EBIKE ON THE SIDEWALK AND SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ONLY SIX FEET WIDE.
HAVE A HARD TIME ACCOMMODATING A PEDESTRIAN AND AN EBIKE.
>> THERE IS NOT A LOT OF SPECIFICITY IN STATE STATUTES ABOUT HOW TO REGULATE E BIKES.
IN FACT, IT'S EXPRESSLY A CATEGORY OF USER THAT CANNOT BE REGULATED IN THE TRADITIONAL MANNER ANYMORE.
THAT'S A CHALLENGE. WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE TENDED TOWARDS MAINTAINING A BIKE LANE BECAUSE THE E BIKE RIDERS TEND TO PREFER TO BE IN A BIKE LANE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE INTERFACE WITH PEDESTRIANS.
THEN ALSO SLIGHTLY WIDER MULTI-USE PATHS, WHERE IF THAT RIDER PREFERS TO BE IN THE SIDEWALK CONDITION, IF YOU WILL, THAT'S ESCOOTERS AS WELL.
>> THERE'S MORE ROOM FOR BOTH OF THEM TO GET OUT OF THE WAY FROM ONE ANOTHER. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
>> GENERALLY, WHAT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH ON CENTER STREET?
>> I THINK IT'S ABOUT A 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE PLANS FROM THE COUNTY.
WE'VE REQUESTED THEM, BUT THEY HAVEN'T SENT THEM OVER JUST YET.
>> LAST QUESTION. I KNOW IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, BUT IS THERE A STAKEHOLDER THAT'S "IN THE LEAD OF THIS PROCESS," THE TOWN OF JUPITER, PALM BEACH COUNTY, PLANNING COUNCIL, WHO'S WHO'S THE FINAL DECISION MAKER ON THESE THINGS?
>> WELL, THE FINAL DECISION MAKER ON THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD WILL ULTIMATELY BE THE COUNTY.
IT'S THE COUNTY'S ROAD IN THE COUNTY'S JURISDICTION, AND THE COUNTY WILL LIKELY PROVIDE THE MAJORITY OF FUNDING FOR THE ROADWAY WIDENING.
THE COUNTY IS VERY COLLABORATIVE WITH COMMUNITIES OFTEN WHERE THERE ARE SHARED APPROACHES TO DESIGN.
IF THE TOWN WANTS ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ISN'T ALREADY FUNDED FOR THE PROJECT, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD PARTNER WITH LOTS OF JURISDICTIONS IN SEEKING GRANT DOLLARS AND SHARING THOSE COSTS.
ULTIMATELY, IT'S A COUNTY FACILITY, BUT IT'S IN YOUR JURISDICTION.
YOU HAVE SOME ADVANTAGE IN THAT YOU ARE WELL ORGANIZED AS A COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE UNDERTAKING A PROCESS LIKE THIS ONE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AND HELP INFORM THE DESIGN.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL FOR ME, COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE].
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>> THANK YOU. A NICE PRESENTATION.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FUNDING.
YOU SAID YOU GET A PER CAPITAL FUNDING FROM THE COUNTIES, AND THEN IT'S ON I DON'T HATE TO USE WORD PER DIEM, BUT IT'S ON A CONSULTATION BASIS.
>> IS THE COUNTY NOW THAT'S DOING IT IN THE TOWN?
>> JUST THE TOWNS DOING THE FUNDING FOR THIS.
I WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CRASH MAP.
OVER WHAT TIME PERIOD WAS THAT?
>> FIVE YEAR? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CRASH MAPS WHERE WE TAKE A SITUATION WHERE IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD, WE MAKE IT A THREE LANE ROAD WITH A SUICIDE TURN LANE IN THE MIDDLE.
I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO HELP TRAFFIC.
WE'VE ALL BEEN STUCK ON CENTER STREET WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO GO RIGHT OR LEFT INTO ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
HAVE THERE BEEN STUDIES THAT SHOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CRASH MAP WITH THE SUICIDE LANE? I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES A CERTAIN CONNOTATION.
WITH THE TURN LANE, DOES THE CRASH RATE GO UP AND THE ACCIDENT RATE GO UP FOR BIKERS, PEDESTRIANS, STROLLERS, WHEELCHAIRS, THE VEHICLES, TO HOLD.
>> IT DEPENDS HOW THOSE FACILITIES ARE DESIGNED. THEY VARY.
WHERE THERE ARE LARGER OFF ROAD FACILITIES, YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY POINTS OF CONFLICT FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS IN THOSE TRAVELING.
IT'S REALLY A FUNCTION OF DESIGN AND WE'LL PULL THE CRASH DATA FOR THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FACILITIES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
>> IF WE COULD DO A LIGHT COMPARISON WOULD BE INTERESTING.
THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF WITH THAT LIGHT COMPARISON, AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT PUTTING THE SAFETY FEATURES IN FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES.
WHICH ONES ARE THE MOST BENEFICIAL? IF WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE WANT TO MAKE IT THE MOST BENEFICIAL AND GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
>> MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FILL IN THAT PRIORITY.
I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU KEPT ON USING IT'S A TWO VERSUS A THROUGH ROAD.
I DON'T HAVE A FEELING ABOUT THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE I USE IT BOTH WAYS.
>> BUT I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC DO, IT'S JUST NOT WHAT I'M DOING.
IS THAT THE BIGGER ISSUE? ARE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS A TWO VERSUS A THROUGH ROAD? HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT? YOUR EXPERTISE IS DOING THIS, THAT YOU HAVE A PHD.
HOW DO YOU VALUE THAT THE TWO VERSUS A THROW?
>> YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE ROAD, THE COUNTY NEEDS THAT ROAD TO PERFORM A FUNCTION, COLLECT TRAFFIC AND DELIVER THAT TRAFFIC TO THE LARGER ROADWAY NETWORK.
HOW YOU DESIGN THE ROAD IS A LOCAL PREROGATIVE.
THE FASTER TRAFFIC MOVES THROUGH A FACILITY LIKE THIS, THE LESS YOU SEE ON THE FRINGES, AS A DRIVER, YOUR PERIPHERAL VISION IS REDUCED AS A FUNCTION OF THE WIDTH OF THE ASPHALT.
[NOISE] AS A COMMUNITY, THOSE ARE JUDGMENT CALLS.
THOSE ARE POLICY DECISIONS REALLY THAT YOU SET AS A PLACE.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE FASTER ON THE ROAD AND GET THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, YOU WOULD HAVE LESS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD SLOW THEM DOWN.
IF INSTEAD, YOU WANT TO MAKE A ROADWAY THAT IS MORE COMFORTABLE FOR LOCAL TRAFFIC AND MAYBE NOT AS COMFORTABLE FOR TRAFFIC MOVING THROUGH, THEN YOU WOULD DESIGN THE ROAD DIFFERENTLY, CREATE A SENSE OF ENCLOSURE AND CREATE VERTICAL ELEMENTS TO CHANGE THE VIEW OF DRIVERS.
THESE ARE POLICY DECISIONS FOR YOU AS A COMMUNITY TO DECIDE.
>> CAN YOU QUANTIFY THAT? IF YOU DO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF HOW TO ALLOW PEDESTRIANS TO BE SAFE OR CROSSING THE STREET, THE LIGHTS, TO PROTECT THE CROSSWAYS, THE SIDE PATH FOR THE BICYCLE WITH THE MEDIUM BETWEEN THE LANE AND THE BIKE LANE.
CAN YOU QUANTIFY THAT TO KNOW WHICH ARE GOING TO NOT ONLY BE THE MOST EFFICACIOUS FOR SAFETY, BUT WHICH YOU ARE GOING TO NOT ALLOW THE TRAFFIC SLOW DOWN OR TO SPEED IT UP? IS THAT QUANTIFIABLE?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THAT YOU ASK.
I'M SURE THERE IS SAFETY DATA TO QUANTIFY THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FACILITIES THAT HAVE MULTI-USE PATHS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND FACILITIES AND NO BIKE LANE AND FACILITIES THAT HAVE BIKE LANES AND SMALLER SIDEWALKS, SO I'LL PULL THAT DATA.
IT'S TRICKY DATA TO WORK WITH THOUGH, BECAUSE WHAT WE FIND IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A FACILITY THAT'S NOT COMFORTABLE FOR CYCLISTS, CYCLISTS SOMETIMES TEND TO AVOID THAT FACILITY.
BECAUSE PEOPLE AVOID THE FACILITY, YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY CRASHES HAPPENING.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE ROAD IS SAFER, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PLEASANT PLACE FOR CYCLISTS TO BE.
>> THERE'S A FLIP SIDE OF THAT, WHERE YOU MAKE A PLACE THAT'S REALLY COMFORTABLE FOR CYCLISTS, PEOPLE LIKE TO GO THERE.
WHEN PEOPLE LIKE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES MORE OFTEN ON A ROAD THAT HAS CARS,
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SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A HIGHER CRASH RATE THAT OCCURS.THERE'S AN ART AND A SCIENCE TO PLANNING THAT WE REALLY RESPECT BECAUSE THE SENSE OF PLACE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY COULD BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE SENSE OF PLACE FOR ANOTHER ONE.
WE REALLY RELY ON PUBLIC INPUT AND TAKING THE BEST PRACTICE EXAMPLES WE CAN TO ILLUSTRATE THOSE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS.
YOU CAN DECIDE AS A COMMUNITY IF IT FEELS RIGHT, BECAUSE THE DATA MAY NOT TAKE YOU TO THAT DECISION.
IT MIGHT BE MORE A SENSE OF, THIS IS WHAT'S RIGHT FOR JUPITER BECAUSE THIS FEELS LIKE THE PLACE THAT WE LOVE AND THIS IS WHY WE LIVE HERE.
EVEN IF I CAN'T PROVIDE THE DATA TO YOU TO SAY, NOW YOUR CRASH RATE WILL GO DOWN, YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BIKE THERE.
>> CONTROLLING OR CREATING A CONDITION WHERE IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE TO SPEED THROUGH THE CORRIDOR MIGHT BE THE BALANCE.
>> RIGHT. I'M TRYING TO GO BACK TO THE TWO VERSUS THROUGH, AND THAT THIS IS JUST YOU'RE SETTING THE STAGE, SO IT'S THAT SWEET SPOT, RIGHT? THE SWEET SPOT, IT'S THE SWEET SPOT OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW, THE PEDESTRIAN FLOW, THE BIKE FLOW.
ALSO THE SWEET SPOT OF WHAT THE TOWN AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE TOWN WANT. THAT'S THE BALANCE?
>> TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT AS A TOWN.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KELSO.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE GENERAL COMMENT.
WHEN WE PLAN ROADWAYS, IT SEEMS LIKE WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO IT BALANCED IN THE SENSE OF ON ONE SIDE, WE HAVE A SIDEWALK, ON THE OTHER SIDE WE HAVE A SIDEWALK.
ON ONE SIDE, WE HAVE A BIKE LANE, ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE A BIKE LANE.
WELL, I WAS RECENTLY OUT IN MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA, AND THEY HAVE A TWO-WAY BIKE LANE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.
IT REALLY WORKED OUT AMAZINGLY WELL BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT OF WALKERS AND BIKERS NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO BE IN THE SAME AREA.
IF YOU WERE WALKING, YOU TENDED TO GO ON THE WALKING SIDE OF THE STREET, IF YOU WILL.
THEN IF YOU WERE BIKING, YOU WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, AND YOU GOT TO WHERE YOU WANTED TO GO, AND IF IT HAPPENED TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, YOU JUST SIMPLY CROSSED AT THE CROSSWALK AND THEN WALK THE REST OF THE WAY.
I GUESS NOT NECESSARILY HAVING TO BE MATCHING, MATCHING ON EACH SIDE.
THERE ARE TWO-WAY BIKE LANE, THAT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL, AND I WAS NICE.
>> SURE. WE'VE DESIGNED A LOT OF ASYMMETRICAL SECTIONS LIKE THAT.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH RIGHT OF WAY YOU HAVE AND SOMETIMES THE DESTINATIONS ARE MORE ON ONE SIDE AND THE RESIDENTIAL IS MORE ON THE OTHER.
WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, AND WE'LL ILLUSTRATE AS MANY DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS AS PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN.
TRY TO TEST THOSE OUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT FIT FOR YOU FOR THIS CORRIDOR.
IT'S NOT AS ONE SIZE FITS ALL ON EVERY CORRIDOR IN THE TOWN.
THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS ON HALF OF THE CORRIDOR VERSUS THE OTHER HALF OF THE CORRIDOR.
>> EXACTLY, LIKE WE WERE TALKING IN FRONT OF RALPH STAND UP IN THAT.
THAT MIGHT BE THE SIDE TO HAVE THE WALKING, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE'VE MORE OF THE BIG PARKING LOTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT FOR THE TWO-WAY BIKE LANE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT HAVING PEOPLE MAYBE THAT ARE STANDING OUT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING FIVE FEET AWAY, AND YOU'VE GOT BIKES WHIZZING BY.
THINGS LIKE THAT. I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING THING TO BRING UP IS THAT ASYMMETRY PLANNING.
>> DEFINITELY. YES. I'M GLAD YOU RAISED THAT POINT.
THEN WE HAVE THAT AS ONE OF THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX.
THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT WAYS TO PUT THE CORRIDOR.
THERE'S PROBABLY 40 DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS THAT WE COULD FIT IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
WE HAVEN'T STARTED TO TEST IT YET, WE'RE BEFORE THAT STAGE.
CONSIDERING THAT AS ONE OF THE OPTIONS, I THINK IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLUM.
>> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE TOWN OF JUPITER SO WELL IN THE PLANNING.
MY CONCERN IS WITH THE PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT IT'S OCCURRING IN THE SUMMER, AND WE DO HAVE A FAIR NUMBER OF SEASONAL PEOPLE HERE, INCLUDING SEASONAL PEOPLE IN TEQUESTA THAT WOULD USE THAT CUT-THROUGH.
>> I FOUND IT, PARTICULARLY INTERESTING THAT YOU'RE DOING THE ZOOM, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT AS WELL AS THE SURVEYS.
I DO HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN, THAT MEANS THAT NOBODY CAN COME TO A FOCUS GROUP THAT MIGHT BE A SEASONAL RESIDENT.
>> WITH THE SCHEDULE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT.
>> WE CAN INCLUDE ZOOM AS PART OF THE FOCUS GROUPS AS WELL.
WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON OUR SIDE, BUT THE COUNTY'S SCHEDULE IS POINTED TOWARDS A SET OF PLANS BEING COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
AGAIN, WE HAVE AVAILABILITY AS IS RIGHT FOR THE TOWN, AND SO CERTAINLY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND SEE IF THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS TO STRETCH THE COUNTY SCHEDULE OUT.
THE COUNTY IS EXPECTING THAT IT WOULD COMPLETE THE PLANS BY THE END OF THE YEAR, AND SO TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER ANY VARIATIONS THAT MIGHT COME THROUGH THIS PROCESS,
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THE COUNTY IS GOING TO NEED THAT INPUT EARLIER SO THAT IT CAN GET THROUGH THAT.BUT CERTAINLY, I HEAR THAT, IT'S A CONCERN THAT WE RAISED ALSO AS WE LAID THE SCHEDULE OUT BECAUSE THE SEASONALITY OF JUPITER ISN'T SUBTLE, IT'S SIGNIFICANT.
WE'LL TRY TO DO OUR BEST. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MS. DELANEY. NEXT, WE'LL HEAR FROM COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
>> WE CAN FIRST HAVE LAURIE BAILEY STEP TO THE PODIUM.
AFTER MS. BAILEY, IF WE CAN HAVE MR. JUNG [INAUDIBLE], YOU CAN COME BACK AND STATE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM IF YOU LIKE.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LAURIE BAILEY.
I RESIDE AT 504 NORTH LOXAHATCHEE DRIVE.
THE TOWN OF JUPITER HAD INSTALLED SEVERAL PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS RECENTLY, AND THE TOWN MANAGER HAD TOLD ME, HEY, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR ADDITIONAL ONES, LET US KNOW.
I DID THAT AND MY CONCERN IS ON CENTER STREET, AND THEY INDICATED, WELL, OKAY, THAT'S COUNTY ROAD, SO THEY CONNECTED ME WITH I GUESS THE PLANNING OFFICE.
MR. SCHNEIDER REACHED OUT TO ME AND TOLD ME TO COME TO THIS MEETING TO MAKE MY COMMENTS TONIGHT, SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
SINCE I LIVE ON LOXAHATCHEE DRIVE, NORTH LOXAHATCHEE, I FREQUENTLY WALK ON CENTER STREET WITH MY DOGS, [INAUDIBLE].
THERE IS NO WAY TO CROSS THE STREET VERY SAFELY BECAUSE THERE'S NO CROSSWALK FROM OLD DIXIE ALL THE WAY TO PENNOCK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT IS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT WHEN YOU'RE WALKING.
I HAVE THREE LITTLE DOGS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT RISKY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS WALKING AND RIDING THERE, EVEN PEOPLE WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND STROLLERS.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA.
I THINK THERE'S HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT AREA.
THEY'VE SAID THAT THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK SOMEWHERE BETWEEN OLD DIXIE AND PENNOCK SO THAT WE COULD SAFELY GET ACROSS.
I WAS WALKING THERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND A NICE MAN TOOK A RISK AND STOPPED HIS PICKUP TRUCK SO THAT WE COULD RACE ACROSS.
MY ONLY CONCERN THERE IS IF I STUMBLE AND FALL OR IF MY DOGS DO.
BUT SINCE THIS IS A COUNTY ROAD, PERHAPS THIS COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT COULD LET THAT REQUEST BE KNOWN TO THE COUNTY OFFICIALS OR WHOEVER IS GOING TO BE MAKING THE DECISION BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU.
>> I THINK PREVIOUSLY, I HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH THE AREA BETWEEN OFF THE DOLPHIN DRIVE AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE COUNCIL HERE.
BUT IN PRACTICALITY, AGAIN, FROM SOMEONE WHO'S LIVED ON THERE 35, 40 YEARS IN WALKS, AND BIKES, AND ALL THAT, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS YOU MOVE THE BUILDINGS FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS DOWN TO MAYBE THREE OR FOUR BLOCKS WEST, THERE'S NO.
ALL THESE THINGS WITH BIKE LANES ON BOTH SIDES.
AGAIN, AS I SAID EARLIER WITH BRIGHT LINE, THAT WHOLE BRIGHT LINE WOULD HAVE NEED TO BE EXPANDED.
IT'S JUST A BOTTLENECK THERE THAT I THINK FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, OTHER THAN DEMOLISHING THE WHOLE THING AND REDOING IT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE LIMITATIONS OF ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT IN THIS SMALL AREA.
>> NEXT, IF I CAN HAVE MR. BRETT LEONI TO THE PODIUM?
FOR THE RECORD BRETT LEONI, 132 BARBADOS DRIVE.
KIM, GREAT PRESENTATION AS ALWAYS.
TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL DOES A GREAT JOB, BOTH HERE AND ALL THE COUNTIES THAT YOU GUYS WORK WITH, SO REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS AND MOST OF THEM WILL PROBABLY BE RAISED AT THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE'LL BE HAVING, BUT JUST TO GET ON THE RECORD TONIGHT.
FIRST OFF, WHATEVER THE COUNTY DOES DO NOT MAKE IT LIKE THE WESTERN PART OF CENTER STREET, PLEASE.
I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE UGLIEST ROADS WE HAVE IN JUPITER, AND IN THE COUNTY'S INFINITE WISDOM JUST SEEMED TO PUSH THAT THROUGH AND MADE IT PRETTY UGLY.
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TALKED A LOT ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, AS PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED, I THINK THAT THAT'S KEY.GROWING UP HERE IN JUPITER, I'VE TRAVERSED CENTER STREET ON PRACTICALLY EVERY POSSIBLE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.
FREQUENT THAT AREA PRETTY OFTEN WITH MY KIDS, JUPITER DONUTS IS ONE OF THE FAVORITES AND SIMS HOUSE, OF COURSE, IS, AS STAFF KNOWS.
ONE OF THE THINGS IT SEEMS LIKE THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO WITH CENTER STREET WITH PUTTING IN THAT CENTER TURN LANE, AND THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THE TERMINOLOGY ON THAT, IS TO REALLY MOVE AS MANY CARS AS POSSIBLE.
BUT CENTER STREET IS HONESTLY 95% RESIDENTIAL.
JUST THINK ABOUT PUTTING A MAJOR THREE-LANE ROAD WITH A CENTER TURN LANE THROUGH ANY ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I THINK IT'S, PERSONALLY, NOT A DESIGN I WOULD GO FOR.
I KNOW THE COUNTY WILL PROBABLY DO WHAT THEY WANT, AND WITH THE HELP OF STAFF, YOU CAN, AND THE REST OF YOUR TEAM, IMPLEMENT ELEMENTS THAT WILL MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE VISION ZERO IN A COMPLETE STREET, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL HELP.
BUT I DON'T THINK A CENTER TURN LANE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF CENTER STREET IS A SMART DESIGN.
MAYBE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL.
I KNOW WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER HERE, BUT ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER TO TAKE OVER THAT ROAD AND DESIGN IT THE WAY THAT WE WANT IT.
WE DID IT WITH A1A UP AT THE INLET DISTRICT.
I THINK IT TURNED OUT ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL, FANTASTIC ROAD UP THERE, TAKING IT FROM A FOUR-LANE ROAD THROUGH THIS LITTLE VILLAGE, TURNING IT INTO A TWO-LANE ROAD WITH SIDEWALKS AND TREES, AND LANDSCAPING.
I THINK IF COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER SEEING WHAT THEY CAN DO TO TALK TO THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER CONTROL, THEN WE CAN HAVE MORE OF A DESIGN IMPACT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> THANKS, ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE COMMISSION?
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
ON THE TOWN VERSUS THE COUNTY ON DOING THE ROADWAY, IS THE COUNTY SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROAD AND THE TOWN, THE SIDEWALKS AND BIKES? IS IT A CUMULATIVE, OR IS IT THE COUNTY HAS THE FINAL DECISION ON SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, AND ROAD?
>> THE COUNTY CONTROLS THE ENTIRE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY, SO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DRAINAGE, SIDEWALK, BIKE FACILITY, DRAINAGE.
THE COUNTY CONTROLS ALL OF IT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
>> OKAY. IF THERE'S INTEREST IN THE FOCUS GROUPS, HOW WOULD THE GENERAL PUBLIC KNOW THAT THEY COULD EITHER APPLY, VOLUNTEER, OR INQUIRE ABOUT SPECIFIC FOCUS GROUPS REGARDING?
>> I THINK STEPHANIE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS THE RIGHT POINT OF CONTACT.
MY INFORMATION IS HERE AS WELL.
BUT IT'S EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC, I THINK, TO COMMUNICATE WITH TOWN STAFF.
I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE. BUT THAT WAY WE CAN ORGANIZE IT.
>> YES. OUR STAFF CAN CONTACT US.
>> IF JOHN DOE UP THE ROAD DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, BUT FINDS OUT SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND SAYS, HOW COME I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING, AND HOW COULD I HAVE GOTTEN ON A FOCUS GROUP? HOW WOULD SOMEBODY BE ON A FOCUS GROUP? IS IT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR IS IT ONLY FOR BOARD MEMBERS?
>> WE'RE INCLUDING AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN.
>> BUT I'M SAYING, HOW WOULD THEY LEARN ABOUT THAT?
>> IF THEY CONTACT OUR OFFICE OR IF THEY FOLLOW THE NOTICES FROM THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS FOR THE TOWN IN GENERAL, THAT INFORMATION IS POSTED AND IT'S PUSHED OUT IN VARIOUS VEHICLES.
IF WE'RE MADE AWARE OF SOMEBODY'S INTERESTS, WE WILL CONNECT THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE OR ALL OF THE OPTIONS THEY HAVE ON HOW TO BE INVOLVED.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT.
IS THERE CONSIDERATION FOR THE TOWN THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT YOU WOULD DO AS SHE STATED AS LIKE INSTITUTE A TYPE OF ZOOM OR INTERACTIVE?
>> WE WILL ENTERTAIN ALL THOSE OPTIONS.
[OVERLAPPING] WE'LL RIGHT SIDE IT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, IF WE SEE WE NEED MORE OR TO CHANGE AND PIVOT, WE'LL REACT TO WHAT INVOLVEMENT WE'RE SEEING OR IS DESIRED TO CAPTURE THE MOST INPUT WE CAN GET.
>> BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COME IN PERSON, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ZOOM AT THE PARTICULAR TIME, BUT IF THEY COULD GO BACK AND WATCH IT, AND THEN BE ABLE TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE ANSWERED BY EITHER THE TOWN STAFF OR WHOEVER WAS APPROPRIATE.
>> YEAH. THE SAME TEAM IS THE TEAM THAT WORKED ON THE CRA UPDATE, AND THE COUNCIL WAS EXPRESSING MANY ACCOLADES FOR THE INPUT AND THE PROCESSES THAT WERE FOLLOWED.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO MEET EXPECTATIONS.
>> WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE TO
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SAY IS I HOPE WE DON'T MAKE A TURN LANE WIDE AS WEST [INAUDIBLE] IS BECAUSE EVERYBODY USES IT AS A TURN LANE IN THEIR BIKE LANE.I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON MAKING A BIKE LANE THAT'S AS WIDE AS A REGULAR LANE.
>> THAT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THEY RETROFITTED A SIX-LANE FACILITY, SO THERE'S SOME UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT RESULTED FROM THAT.
IT WAS AN ECONOMIC DECISION IN SOME RESPECTS AS TO HOW THAT WAS DONE.
THAT'S ONE ADVANTAGE THIS PROJECT HAS, IS IT'S BASICALLY AN EXPANSION OUT, SO IT'S NOT DEALING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S THERE [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT SEEMS MORE DANGEROUS BECAUSE EVERYBODY TREATS THAT EXCESSIVE BIKE LANE AS A TURN LANE [OVERLAPPING] DANGEROUS FOR THE BIKERS NOW THAN I THINK IT WAS BEFORE.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION FOR TODAY.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? NO. THANK YOU, MS. DELANEY.
>> APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF UPDATE.
[STAFF UPDATE]
MR. SICKLER, IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE ON RECENT TOWN COUNCIL ACTIONS ON COMMISSION ITEMS, PLEASE?>> THERE HAVEN'T BEEN MANY ITEMS MOVING FORWARD, SO REALLY JUST WANT TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> SORRY. THANKS, EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING THIS EVENING.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. SORRY, JOHN.
>> BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT YOUR FORMER COLLEAGUE ON THE COMMISSION DAN GEISINGER WAS APPOINTED TO THE VACANT SEAT ON THE COUNCIL FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
HE WILL BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING, JUNE 17TH? NO OTHER ITEMS FOR APPROVALS.
JUST ALSO WANT TO FOLLOW UP THAT THE EAST ENTRANCE TO THE TOWN HALL IS OPEN AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED PARKING IN THAT AREA, SO YOU HAVE NEW OPTIONS THAT ARE CONVENIENT TO THE CHAMBERS.
THEN ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR JULY 8TH MEETING, WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO CANCEL.
WE HAD ONE ITEM, BUT WE CONTACTED THE APPLICANT AND THEY WERE AMENABLE TO WORK WITH THE AUGUST SCHEDULE.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A NICE JULY 4TH HOLIDAY WEEK.
>> THANK YOU. WHEN WILL THE OTHER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS BE APPOINTED?
>> THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO BE APPOINTED ON JUNE 17TH.
>> THEY'LL BE HERE FOR THE AUGUST MEETING?
>> VERY GOOD. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?
>> ANY POSED? NO. WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
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