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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. IT'S A LITTLE AFTER 7:00.
[Call To Order]
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.DO THE CALL TO ORDER. VARNISA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A ROLL?
>> VICE CHAIR, RICHARD DUNNING.
>> COMMISSIONER MICHAEL CASSATLY.
>> COMMISSIONER DAN GUISINGER.
>> COMMISSIONER DAVID THOMPSON.
>> THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT TO ESTABLISHED QUORUM.
IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SUBMIT A GREEN COMMENT CARD TO VARNISA.
SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO EXPRESS THEIR COMMENTS.
NEXT ARE CITIZEN COMMENTS UNRELATED TO AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THE BOARD WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING.ANY OF THESE ISSUES BROUGHT BY SPEAKERS WILL BE NOTED BY THE STAFF OR FOLLOW UP.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENT CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> YES. IF I COULD HAVE MR. ROBERT BAINE COME TO THE PODIUM.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ROBERT BAINE.
I RESIDE AT 4739 CHANCELLOR DRIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF ABACOA.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD TONIGHT.
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS OVER THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE VACANT TRACTS IN ABACOA TOWN CENTER.
I HAVE DETAILED THOSE CONCERNS IN THE E-MAIL THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BOARD AND ALSO TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M NOT GOING TO REITERATE THOSE HERE.
THERE IS ONE ISSUE AND I'M NOT TOTALLY CERTAIN THAT IT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD.
BUT IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION YESTERDAY.
AS YOU KNOW, THE ABACOA PHASE 1 POA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING INFRASTRUCTURE OF TOWN CENTER.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS IN PHASE 2.
THE VILLAGES AT ABACOA POA PROVIDE 75% OF THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE PHASE 1 POA.
NOWHERE HAVE I SEEN ANY MENTION THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT INTENDS TO MAKE ANY CONTRIBUTION AT ALL TO THE INCREASED EXPENSES THAT DUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD ACCRUE TO PHASE 1 AND CONSEQUENTLY TO THE VILLAGES.
DESPITE INCREASING HOUSING DENSITY BY ROUGHLY 75%.
THE BUSINESSES, CONCERTS, AND SPECIAL EVENTS ARE A LARGE PART OF WHAT MAKES ABACOA ATTRACTIVE, BUT THERE ARE EXPENSES AND MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE AND EXPECTING THE CURRENT RESIDENTS TO PICK UP THE WHOLE TAB CERTAINLY FEELS AS THOUGH IT BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
QUITE FRANKLY, GIVEN ALL THE ALREADY VOICED CONCERNS, THIS WOULD BE ADDING INJURY TO INSULT.
FINALLY, I HOPE THE BOARD WILL MAINTAIN A REASONABLE SKEPTICISM TOWARDS THE DEVELOPERS ASSURANCES THAT ALL WILL BE WELL AND THOUGHTFULLY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS I'VE PUT FORTH BOTH TONIGHT AND IN THE E-MAIL.
I AM NOT ANTI DEVELOPMENT, BUT I DESIRE A REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WORKS FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS, CURRENT AND FUTURE OF ABACOA. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. JOHN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN FOLLOW UP ON?
IF I CAN HAVE MR. TIM MURPHY AND AFTER MR. MURPHY, DAWN ZANGARA, FORGIVE ME IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TIM MURPHY.
I LIVE AT 181 FLORENCE DRIVE IN TUSCANY, WHICH IS A ABACOA.
I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER THERE SINCE 2011, AND I'VE LIVED IN JUPITER SINCE 2007.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ALL SERVICE ON THE COMMITTEE OR THE COMMISSION.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT TASK FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU ARE FINDERS OF FACT, MUCH LIKE A DISTRICT COURT.
YOU HAVE AN ADEQUATE STAFF TO REVIEW PROMISING AND ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS.
TAKE THAT ALL IN MIND THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE IN THE TOWN CENTER APARTMENTS AS THEY ARE GENERICALLY CALLED RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN UP ZONING, REALLY, AN UP ZONING THAT CHANGES AT THE TOWN CENTER BY HAVING NOT JUST FOUR BUILDINGS THAT ARE DESCRIBED IN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS, BUT IT'S REALLY SIX BUILDINGS.
EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE WINGS PLUS TWO PARKING LOTS AND THEN A THIRD PARKING LOT.
WHETHER THERE'S AN ADEQUATE SUFFICIENCY AROUND THOSE ISSUES OF TRAFFIC CONTROL AND SAFETY AROUND PARKING, YOU WILL GET INTO ALL OF THAT FROM YOUR STAFF AND FROM OTHER CITIZEN COMMENTS.
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MY POINT TONIGHT IS I'D LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE UP ZONING WOULD BE.THE DEVELOPERS HAVE MENTIONED BARCELONA AND THE PROBLEMS WITH ASSOCIATED WITH GETTING WORKFORCE HOUSING OUT OF THAT EXPERIENCE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WERE SERVING ON THE COMMISSION AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
ITS UNITS PER ACRE IS SOMEWHERE OVER 14 UNDER 15, THE DU ON IT IS.
IMAGINE THE SAME DENSITY ON THOSE 24 ACRES THAT IS BEING REQUIRED ON A LITTLE OVER A LITTLE UNDER SEVEN ACRES THAT ARE LEFT AS VACANT LOTS NEXT TO ROGER D. IT WOULD MEAN THE DENSITY RIGHT NOW OF THE ROGER DEAN APARTMENTS TO BARCELONA IS 29% OF IT.
IT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE AN EQUIVALENT UP ZONING TO OVER 1,200 UNITS.
IF BARCELONA WOULD BE DEVELOPED WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF INTENSITY.
IF YOU'VE SPREAD THAT OUT TO BROADER AREAS, YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT OF WHAT THAT INTENSITY WOULD BE.
THAT'S MY POINT TONIGHT. PLEASE, THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAWN ZANGARA.
I LIVE AT 11:30 PRESCOTT DRIVE SOUTH IN WINDSOR PARK IN ABACOA.
PRIOR TO THAT, I LIVED IN CHARLESTON COURT.
I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OR A RESIDENT OF ABACOA FULL TIME FOR OVER 15 YEARS, A HOMEOWNER FOR OVER 20.
MY COMMENTS ARE SIMILAR TO TIM'S REGARDING THE DENSITY.
WHILE I DO SUPPORT WORKFORCE HOUSING, I UNDERSTAND IT.
OUR COMMUNITY THRIVES ON THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE IN SO MANY AREAS OF OUR BEAUTIFUL TOWN.
HOWEVER, THE DENSITY THAT THIS PROJECTED PROJECT WILL INCUR. I'M DOING SIMPLE MATH.
WE HAVE PROPOSING 334 UNITS ON A LITTLE OVER SEVEN ACRES, THAT'S 48 UNITS PER ACRE.
I KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE ON ALL OF ABACOA TOWN CENTERS 70 PLUS ACRES IN ORDER TO GET THEIR NUMERATOR AND DENOMINATOR TO WORK OF 20 UNITS PER ACRE.
I GET THAT. YET I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE DENSITY IS APPROVED, AND THE VARIANCE IS APPROVED OF 20 UNITS PER ACRE IN ALL OF ABACOA TOWN CENTER FOR 70 ACRES, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT COULD HAPPEN.
I KNOW 20 YEARS COULD GO BY IN A BLINK OF AN EYE, BUT THAT OPENS UP AN INCREDIBLE DENSITY IN ABACOA TOWN CENTER FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
I ASK ALL OF YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL AND SEE IF THERE CAN BE SOME OF COMPROMISE WITH THE DEVELOPER REGARDING STICKING TO THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE ADDITIONAL, I BELIEVE IT'S 104 UNITS.
INCORPORATE WORKFORCE HOUSING, WORK WITHIN DENSITY REQUIREMENTS OF OUR TOWN SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR UNIQUE, SMALL TOWN FEEL HERE IN JUPITER, WHICH HAS BEEN PART OF THIS TOWN'S MISSION STATEMENT FOR YEARS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA
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IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 12TH, REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> THE MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER KELSO, AND SECOND, COMMISSIONER CASSATLY.
>> ANY OPPOSED? MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[REGULAR AGENDA]
STAFF, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA?>> THANKS. NEXT WILL BE THE SWEARING IN OF WITNESSES.
THIS IS FOR ALL THE APPLICATIONS TONIGHT AND FOR THE APPLICANTS AND STAFF WHO MAY BE PROVIDING TESTIMONY, DOES NOT INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE JUST MAKING COMMENTS.
>> WILL YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR UNDER THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY THAT
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THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS MATTER IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?>> JUST TO NOTE, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE ONLY ITEM THAT'S QUASI JUDICIAL IS ITEM NUMBER 2, THE WENDY'S.
THE FIRST ITEM AND THIRD ITEM ARE ALL LEGISLATIVE ITEMS, NOT QUASI JUDICIAL.
>> THE BAIL ANNEXATION FUTURE LAND USE AND REZONING.
[2. Beyel Annexation, Future Land Use and Rezoning]
WE WILL START WITH THE APPLICANT GIVING THAT PRESENTATION.>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
FOR THE RECORD, ALEC DICKERSON WITH 2GHO.
HERE ON BEHALF OF VENUS AND MARS LLC.
TONIGHT'S REQUEST IT'S A THREE PORTION REQUEST.
FIRST IS FOR A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION FOR A 0.2 ACRE PROPERTY FROM UNINCORPORATED PALM BEACH COUNTY TO TOWN OF JUPITER LIMITS.
SECOND BEING A FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY'S DESIGNATION OF CH/5 COMMERCIAL HIGH, TO TOWN OF JUPITER'S INLET VILLAGE FLEX.
THE THIRD IS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT OR REZONING FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY'S DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO THE INLET VILLAGE FLEX SOUTH DISTRICT.
GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF OUR SITE.
HERE IT IS ALONG NORTH A1A, ADJACENT TO THE JUPITER OXBOW FOR CONTACTS, A FEW POINTS OF INTEREST, TO THE NORTH IS THE INLET VILLAGE MARINA.
FURTHER NORTH SPY PROPERTY TO THE NORTHEAST IS THE JUPITER INLET CONDOMINIUMS TO THE SOUTH IS THE EXISTING INLET WATERS DEVELOPMENT.
THE KEY DEVELOPMENT MILESTONES IN ORDER TO GET TO AN APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.
WE FIRST NEED TO COMPLETE TONIGHT'S REQUEST, WHICH IS FOR THE ANNEXATION LAND USE AND REZONING.
FOLLOWING THIS APPLICATION, WE WILL BE FILING A CERTIFICATE TO DIG AS THIS AREA HAS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.
OUR APPLICATION FOR THE CERTIFICATE TO DIG WILL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE TOWN'S HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD.
FOLLOWING THAT, WE WILL APPLY FOR A SMALL SCALE PUD SITE PLAN FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BILE PROPERTY.
THE OWNERS OWN TWO CONTIGUOUS PARCELS TOTALING ABOUT A HALF AN ACRE.
THEY PURCHASED THE SUBJECT ANNEXATION PARCEL, THAT'S THE PARCEL HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN 2018 AND THE TOWN OF JUPITER PROPERTY IN 2022.
THEY'VE BEEN MEETING WITH STAFF HERE SINCE PURCHASING THIS JUPITER PARCEL ON PLANS TO COMBINE THESE TWO PARCELS AND DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL USE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
HOWEVER, IT DOES CONTAIN TWO NON CONFORMING ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY.
PALM BEACH COUNTY'S ERM DIVISION ISSUED A CODE VIOLATION LAST MONTH FOR THE REMOVAL OF A NATIVE TREE ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS CODE VIOLATION CAME DOWN ON DECEMBER 13TH, AND AS SOON AS THE PROPERTY OWNERS RECEIVED THE NOTICE, THEY QUICKLY RECTIFIED IT BY PAYING A FEE IN LIEU TO SATISFY THE VIOLATION.
THE FEE WAS $2,880 FOR THE REMOVAL OF AN OAK TREE.
AS THIS LETTER STATES HERE, THE VIOLATION WAS RECTIFIED AND A NOTICE OF COMPLIANCE WAS ISSUED ON DECEMBER 23RD.
JUST A FEW IMAGES OF THE TREE FOR THE RECORD.
THE REASON WHY THE OWNERS DID REMOVE THIS TREE FROM THE PROPERTY IS BECAUSE IT EXHIBITED SIGNS OF POOR HEALTH.
IT POSED A HAZARD TO NOT ONLY THEIR PROPERTY BUT THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
UNDER THE ADVISEMENT OF A TREE SERVICE, THEY DID REMOVE THE TREE, HOWEVER, THEY DO SUBMIT THAT THEY DID NOT GET A PERMIT FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY.
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THEREFORE, RECTIFIED THE CODE VIOLATION WHEN IT CAME.FOR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, THERE IS CRITERIA THAT WE ARE HELD TO COMPLY WITH.
WE ARE CONTIGUOUS TO THE SUBJECT MUNICIPALITY ON ALL SIDES, ESSENTIALLY.
IT ACTUALLY REMOVES THE PALM BEACH ENCLAVE THAT IT'S THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED IN LANE WE PALM BEACH COUNTY.
FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WILL RESULT IN A LOGICAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE ADOPTED LEVELS OF SERVICE, AND IT YIELDS THE POTENTIAL FOR SENSIBLE INFILL REDEVELOPMENT.
AS I NOTE, THE ANNEXATION IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER'S ANNEXATION STUDY, AS IT DEEMED THIS LOT A DESIRABLE LOT TO ANNEX INTO THE TOWN LIMITS.
THE SECOND COMPONENT TO THIS REQUEST IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND REZONING.
WITH THIS ANNEXATION, IT IS NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATIONS FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE LAND USE TO GO FROM THE PALM BEACH COUNTY DESIGNATION OF CH/5 TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER'S DESIGNATION OF INLET VILLAGE FLEX.
FOR THE ZONING, WE ARE PROPOSING THE PALM BEACH COUNTY DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO THE TOWN'S INLET VILLAGE FLEX SOUTH DESIGNATION.
JUST A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THE LAND USE.
YOU CAN SEE OUR PARCELS GRADE OUT AS IS THE ONLY UNINCORPORATED PARCEL IN THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREA.
OUR PROPOSED LAND USE IS JUST FILLING THAT IN TO MATCH WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY.
SAME THING WITH THE ZONING, IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT STICKS OUT AS AN UNINCORPORATED PIECE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO FILL THAT IN WITH THE SAME INLET VILLAGE FLEX SOUTH.
>> THE CRITERIA FOR FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENTS AND REZONINGS.
WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE TOWN'S PLAN.
WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE PATTERNS.
WE DO NOT CREATE AN ISOLATED LAND USE DESIGNATION AS WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING RID OF THE ONLY ISOLATED LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THAT AREA.
WE WILL NOT INCREASE THE TRIPS WITH THIS LAND USE AMENDMENT, AND THE AMENDMENT IS NEEDED DUE TO CHANGED CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH IS THE ANNEXATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
REGARDING TRAFFIC, THE OWNERS HAVE AGREED TO VOLUNTARILY CAP THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FAR NOT TO EXCEED THE ESTABLISHED RATE SET BY PALM BEACH COUNTY.
AS A RESULT, NO NEGATIVE IMPACT WITH TRAFFIC IS CREATED WITH THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT.
OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID WORK WITH THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND CAME UP WITH THIS CAP IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THERE WASN'T ANY ADDITIONAL NEGATIVE TRAFFIC IMPACTS IN THE INLET VILLAGE.
IN CLOSING, OUR ANNEXATION LAND USE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL NECESSARY ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE TOWN STUDIES, AND IT DOES NOT AFFECT ANY ADOPTED LEVELS OF SERVICE.
FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE SECTIONS OF THE TOWN'S CODE.
TRAFFIC ANALYSIS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
JUPITER'S STAFF REPORT INDICATES COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
LASTLY, WE WILL ADD TO THE TOWN'S TAX BASE WHEN WE ANNEX IN AND DEVELOP THE PARCEL.
WITH THAT, I THANK THE BOARD FOR THEIR TIME, AND WE WILL YIELD TO STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE DO THAT, I NEED TO GET EX-PARTE DISCLOSURES ON THIS. START OVER HERE.
>> THIS IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM.
>> EVEN IF WE GO THROUGH THE C PART, THAT'S NOT EITHER?
>> THANK YOU. THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS MARTIN SCHNEIDER, I'M WITH THE TOWN'S PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
ALEC DID A GOOD JOB OF SUMMARIZING THE VARIOUS APPLICATIONS AND REQUESTS.
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AS STATED, THERE'LL BE THREE DIFFERENT VOTES.THERE'LL BE A ANNEXATION, A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, AND REZONING.
BASED ON THE FACTS AND FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION AND CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND ZONING MAP ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF THE TRIP CAP IS INCLUDED WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ORDINANCE TO ENSURE THAT THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT IS MET.
THE ANNEXATION, THE PROPERTY IS IN UNINCORPORATED ENCLAVE, SO THE ANNEXATION IS REASONABLE AND ACTUALLY ENCOURAGED TO GET RID OF THE ENCLAVE THAT EXISTS NOW.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WILL ASSIGN A TOWN DESIGNATION WHEN THE PROPERTY COMES INTO TOWN.
NEEDS TO BE ASSIGNED A TOWN FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.
THE INLET VILLAGE, FLEX SOUTH IS CONSISTENT AS WAS SHOWN ON THE MAP.
IT IS THE LAND USE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING IT AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE USES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.
IF THERE'S INTEREST IN DISCUSSION ON THE TRIP CAP, IT WOULD BE DURING THE MOTION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD TALK ABOUT ANY TRIP CAP QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU HAD ON THAT.
THEN THE THIRD PART IS THE REZONING, WHICH HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE ZONING DISTRICT IS THE DISTRICT THAT IS THE MOST CONSISTENT WITH THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SINCE THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN THE TOWN, THEY CAN NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CERTIFICATE TO DIG YET.
IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED, AND IT IS A PROPERTY WITHIN THE TOWN, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CERTIFICATE TO DIG, WHICH WOULD BE NECESSARY BEFORE THEY DO ANY SUBSURFACE DISTURBANCE ON THAT PROPERTY.
REGARDING THE TREE THAT WAS REMOVED, ANY DECISION ON ANY FURTHER MITIGATION FOR THE REMOVAL OF THAT TREE WOULD TAKE PLACE WHEN THE APPLICANT DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND SITE PLAN WHEN THEY WANT TO DO SOME DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY.
AS STATED, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO A VOLUNTARY CAP ON TRIPS BASED ON THE FLOOR AREA RATIO OF THE EXISTING COUNTY LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THIS EQUATES TO 463 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS, AND THIS CAP WILL BE IN THE ORDINANCE, SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD AND THAT BE THE DETERMINATION OF THE COUNCIL.
THE STAFF REPORT TALKS ABOUT THE INLET VILLAGE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT TOOL.
THIS IS NOT REGULATORY REQUIREMENT, IT IS INFORMATIONAL ONLY, AND IT WAS USED TO GAUGE HOW MANY TRIPS WERE REASONABLE IN THE INLET VILLAGE TO MAINTAIN THAT TWO-LANE CONFIGURATION, WHICH WE HAVE OUT THERE NOW.
THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT TOOL PRODUCES A MUCH LOWER NUMBER OF TRIPS FOR THE PARCEL THAN THE TRIP CAP, WHICH IS BASED ON THE EXISTING FLOOR AREA RATIO OF THE PROPERTY UNDER THE EXISTING LAND USE.
AGAIN, THAT'S ONLY INFORMATIONAL, BUT IT COULD BE INTERESTING INFORMATION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
WITH THAT, LET ME JUST READ THE CONCLUSION REAL QUICK.
SORRY, I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THE PAGE. THERE WE GO.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUESTED VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS ON THE PROPERTY BASED ON THE EXISTING AND FUTURE POTENTIAL USES, AND FOUND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
THE ANNEXATION OF THIS PROPERTY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S ANNEXATION STUDY AND COMPLIES WITH FLORIDA STATUTE BY NOT CREATING AN ENCLAVE.
THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION, FUTURE LAND USE, AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS APPLICATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLANS, GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES PROVIDED A TRIP CAP IS INCLUDED WITH THE FUTURE LAND MAP ORDINANCE TO ENSURE THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY 3.2.10 IS MET.
THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE AND TOWN REQUIREMENTS FOR ANNEXATION AND WITH THE APPLICANT'S VOLUNTARY TRIP CAP ON THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE
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FAR TO NOT EXCEED THE EXISTING RATE UNDER THE COUNTY LAND USE DESIGNATION.THERE WILL BE NO INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY RESULTING FROM THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT.
WITH THAT, I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S START OVER HERE ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER BLUM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? QUESTIONS?
>> YES. FOR THE APPLICANT, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
NOW, IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS YOU PLAN TO PUT A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON THAT SITE, BUT YET IN YOUR COMMENTS, YOU DISCUSSED MULTIFAMILY, SO WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO WITH THAT?
>> SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT ALLOWED BY ANY INLET VILLAGE DISTRICT, SO IT IS A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING.
IT'LL CONSIST OF TWO UNITS, A MAIN RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WITH A RESIDENTIAL OVER GARAGE.
>> YOU PLAN TO JOIN THAT WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT THEY ALSO OWN?
>> THEY OWN THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST, AND WE WILL COMBINE THOSE TWO PROPERTIES AND MAKE ONE DEVELOPABLE SITE.
>> THANK YOU. QUESTION FOR THE STAFF.
SINCE YOU SAID THIS IS A SITE THAT POTENTIALLY HAS ARCHAEOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE, IF THEY FIND SUCH, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE DEVELOPMENT?
>> IS THIS MIC ON? IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION AND THE QUALITY OF THE MATERIALS ON THE SITE AS TO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
BUT IT COULD ADJUST THE LOCATION OF BUILDINGS OR SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD, BUT THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED WHEN THEY DO THE CERTIFICATE TO DIG IT.
>> THANK YOU. WE ARE ANNEXING IT INTO THE INLET VILLAGE, SINCE ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE IN THE CRA, WHY WOULD WE NOT ALSO ANNEX IT INTO THE CRA OR PUT IT INTO THE CRA?
>> [INAUDIBLE] HASN'T BEEN A DIRECTIVE TO BRING THEM INTO THE CRA.
>> LAST QUESTION IS, AND YOU HAD BROUGHT IT UP IN THE STAFF REPORT, IVF VERSUS IVR, IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN JUST TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHY WOULD IT NOT BE IVR?
>> WELL, THAT CREATES AN ISOLATED DISTRICT.
IT'D BE THE ONLY IVR WITHIN THAT AREA.
IT COULD BE DONE THAT WAY, BUT THEIR REQUEST WAS FOR INLET VILLAGE, FLEX SOUTH, AND THAT IS WHAT MATCHES AND THERE'S REALLY NO CONFLICT WITH THAT SELECTION.
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT COMBINING IT WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL.
>> NO. THE ONE THEY WANT TO COMBINE IT WITH IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN THE VILLAGE.
>> I WAS WONDERING HOW THAT WOULD WORK THERE.
>> IT HAS THE INLET VILLAGE FLEX LAND USE AND THE FLEX SOUTH ZONING.
IF THIS ONE WAS CHANGED TO RESIDENTIAL, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THEIR OTHER HALF OF THE PROPERTY.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.
>> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
YOU DO NEED TO COMBINE THE TWO SPACES, THE TWO ADJACENT PROPERTIES SO THAT YOU CAN BUILD ON IT, CORRECT?
>> IS IT A WORKAROUND, SINCE YOU CAN'T HAVE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE, TO MAKE IT SO THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL UNIT OVER THE GARAGE, WHICH CAN BE OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY THAT HAS THE FAMILY PROPERTY, THE LARGER HOUSE? IS THAT THE INTENT OR IS IT FOR RENTAL?
>> I BELIEVE THE INTENT WAS FOR THE OWNER TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS A WORKAROUND, BUT THE OWNER IS HERE.
I CAN HAVE THEM COME UP AND CLARIFY THAT.
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE TOO THAT THOSE ISSUES WILL NEED TO BE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED AT SUCH TIME THAT THEIR APPLICATION FOR A SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD IN THE SMALL-SCALE PUD, AND STAFF WILL HAVE FURTHER ANALYSIS ON THAT ISSUE AT THAT TIME.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS DANNY BOYLE.
WE WERE PLANNING ON BUILDING A SECOND UNIT THAT WE COULD RENT OUT FOR SOME INCOME IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S WHAT WE WERE PLANNING. THANK YOU.
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>> THEN TO CLARIFY, IN THE FUTURE, THAT WILL BE WHEN THEY'LL DETERMINE ABOUT THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE AND THE INTENT TO DIG.
WILL THAT ALSO BE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MARKER THERE, BECAUSE IT'S CELESTIAL RAIL, OR WHEN I READ IT GOES BACK TO 1,500 BC, POTENTIALLY? THAT'S OLD.
>> WE'LL MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS.
THERE ARE SOME MARKERS, AND WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS ON OTHER DEVELOPMENT SITES TO SHOW SOME DEMARCATION OF WHERE THE CELESTIAL RAILROAD RAN EITHER THROUGH PAVERS THAT INDICATE THE LOCATION OF THE RAIL LINE.
>> WILL THE PUBLIC BE ABLE TO VIEW THAT IF THERE'S ARTIFACTS DUG UP? FROM MY OWN EDUCATION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> AGAIN, IT WILL DEPEND ON THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT'S FOUND IN THEIR CULTURAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT, AND WHAT'S DETERMINED BY THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD AS PART OF THE CERTIFICATE TO DIG.
IT COULD JUST REQUIRE MONITORING DURING THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION.
IT MAY REQUIRE PRESERVATION OF CERTAIN AREAS, BUT CERTAINLY, THEY'LL BE SOME DOCUMENTATION.
>> QUESTION FOR THE STAFF, PLEASE. HELP ME WITH THIS.
AS FAR AS RIGHT NOW, IF THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED, THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE USE MAP FOR THE TOWN.
IS THAT CORRECT? THEN THEY COME BACK AGAIN IF IT'S APPROVED. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
ONE IS TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY AS ITEM A, ITEM B IS TO SIGN A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S THE ITEM THAT CONTAINS THE TRIP CAP THAT THE APPLICANT HAS OFFERED, AND WE'VE PROVIDED SOME ANALYSIS IN THE REPORT.
THEN ITEM C IS TO PLACE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.
IF ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PASSED ULTIMATELY BY THE COUNCIL, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO GO THROUGH THE CERTIFICATE TO DIG PROCESS THROUGH THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD.
ONCE THEY GET THEIR CERTIFICATE TO DIG AND IDENTIFY WHAT AREAS CAN BE DUG OR DEVELOPED, THEN THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN, AND IN THIS CASE, A SMALL-SCALE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT WILL COME BEFORE THIS BOARD.
>> THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
REGARDING THE TREE, IT IS OBVIOUS THAT IT DID HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH ITS HEALTH.
DO WE NORMALLY GO AND LOOK AT THE TREE AND FIGURE OUT IF IT NEEDS TO COME DOWN AND WOULD WE HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO TAKE THIS DOWN BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THIS TREE?
>> WE WOULD HAVE HAD A CERTIFIED ARBORIST REPORT OR INDICATION ON THAT, AND WE WOULD HAVE TYPICALLY DONE AN INSPECTION.
SINCE IT WASN'T IN THE TOWN'S JURISDICTION, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY PALM BEACH COUNTY.
I PRESUME THEY WOULD TAKE A SIMILAR PROCESS HAD A PERMIT BEEN APPLIED FOR TO REMOVE THE TREE.
>> WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE APPLICANT'S SOLUTION ON REMOVAL OF THE TREE BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A PRETTY KEY PART OF THE SITE.
THE OTHER QUESTION I'VE GOT IS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC GENERATION.
IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, THE COUNTY CALCULATION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS 463 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS. THAT'S THE COUNTY CAP?
>> THAT WOULD BE THE CAP FOR THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FAR THEY COULD DEVELOP ON-SITE.
>> BUT THEN OUR INLET VILLAGE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SKETCH TOOL GENERATES A MUCH LOWER CAP, AND THAT IS BASED UPON THE CAPACITY OF THE NEWLY NAMED JIMMY BUFFETT MEMORIAL HIGHWAY THERE. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YES. THE SKETCH TOOL SPECIFICALLY WAS INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF LIMITED CAPACITY REMAINING ON A1A, JIMMY BUFFETT MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, THEN TOOK THE REMAINING CAPACITY AND ESTIMATED FOR THE REMAINING UNDEVELOPED PARCELS.
IF YOU DIVVIED UP THAT CAPACITY ON PRO-RATA BASIS, OR EQUAL FOR EVERYBODY PER ACRE BASIS, THAT WOULD EQUATE FOR THIS PROPERTY TO NEED TO BE LIMITED TO 35 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS.
>> APPROXIMATION ON THAT WOULD BE FIVE MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
IT'D BE ALLOWED WITH 35 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS APPROXIMATELY.
THAT JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THAT NUMBER RELATES TO AS IT RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT.
>> THE 463 CAP THAT THEY VOLUNTARILY SUBMITTED DOESN'T LIMIT US TO REQUIRING A LOWER NUMBER IF THEY COME BACK AND APPLY FOR A CERTAIN PUD, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ASSIGN A FUTURE LAND USE, THE COUNCIL HAS PLACED LIMITS OR PLACED TRIP CAPS ON PROPERTIES,
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AND IN SOME CASES, THOSE WERE RECOMMENDED BY THIS BODY ON OTHER PROPERTIES.THAT'S A POINT WHERE THE COUNCIL HAS A LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF LIMIT AS PART OF THE LAND USE, AND THEN WHATEVER CAP IS PLACED AT THAT POINT IN TIME ON THE LAND USE WOULD HAVE TO BE ADHERED TO WHEN THEY COME FORWARD WITH THEIR SITE PLAN.
ESSENTIALLY, IT WOULD BE THE PARAMETER FOR WHICH THEY HAVE TO PLAN FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
>> MY POINT IS THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS FLEXIBILITY TO REDUCE THAT 463?
>> YES, WITH RELEVANCE TO LIKE THE INTENT OF BEING ASSURED THAT EVERYBODY HAS A PROPORTIONAL PAIR PIECE OF THE PIE THAT REMAINS SO TO SPEAK.
>> THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER THOMASON.
>> QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MIC'S ON OR NOT?
>> YES. IT'S ON. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> SO WHEN THE PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED, WAS THE GENTLEMAN, DANNY, WERE YOU AWARE OF THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE AREA TO START WITH?
>> HAVE YOU BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROPERTY AND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THAT?
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY, HOW THAT'S BETTER.
>> WHO'S ANSWERING THE QUESTION NEEDS TO COME TO THE MIC AND MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE?
>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REASK?
>> THAT'D BE GOOD. SO WERE YOU AWARE OF THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROPERTY DUE TO THE ADJACENT ARCHAEOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE?
>> AND YOU'VE ALSO BEEN FOLLOWING THE SPERRY PROPERTY AND WHAT'S GONE ON WITH THAT?
>> DO YOU HAVE A PLAN SHOULD YOU ENCOUNTER THE SAME OBSTACLES THAT THE SPERRY PROPERTY HAS?
>> IF WE DIG UP SOMETHING THAT'S HISTORIC, WE'LL STOP. WE WON'T DO ANYTHING.
>> YOUR NEXT STEP IS TO HAVE THE CERTIFICATE TO DIG, WHICH THE HRB WILL GRANT.
WHEN YOU GO TO COMBINE THE TWO PROPERTIES TOGETHER, YOUR EXISTING ONE AND THIS NEW ONE THAT THE TOWN WILL ANNEX, I IMAGINE THAT YOU'LL NEED A CERTIFICATE TO DIG AS WELL FOR THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY?
>> WE ALREADY HAD SOME OF IT DUG AND WE WERE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
>> AND THAT'S WHERE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE MITTENS HAD BEEN DISCOVERED?
>> WELL, NO. THEY DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING.
THEY JUST FOUND AN OLD HINGE AND SOME POTTERY THAT WASN'T THAT OLD.
>> SO TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NO MIDDENS THAT ARE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY?
>> NO. BUT WE ARE GOING TO DIG THE OTHER PIECE AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
>> QUESTION FOR STAFF FOR CLARIFICATION.
THE OAK TREE THAT WAS CUT DOWN THAT THE COUNTY WENT AND DID THEIR FINDING PROCESS, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS ADHERED TO.
HAD IT BEEN A TOWN OF JUPITER PIECE OF LAND AT THE TIME AND THEY WISHED TO CUT DOWN A TREE ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO FILE A PERMIT WITH THE TOWN IN ORDER TO CUT DOWN A TREE?
YES. WELL, YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY WAS.
>> REGARDLESS OF THE CONDITION OF THE TREE, IF IT POSED A LIMB.
>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVALUATED UPON SUBMITTAL OF THE PERMIT.
>> AND THAT NORMALLY TAKES APPROXIMATELY HOW TIME? HOW MUCH TIME?
>> MATTER OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
>> I THINK MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED BY EVERYBODY ELSE.
MY ONLY LASTING QUESTION IS, IS THERE AN INTENT TO BUILD MORE LATER DOWN THE ROAD? THAT THIS WILL BECOME A TRUE MULTI FAMILY OR MULTI USE?
>> NO, MA'AM. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING ELSE.
ARE YOU RESIDING IN THAT PROPERTY NOW?
>> NO. THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD. THANK YOU.
>> I'M SORRY, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
>> MOST OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, BUT MY QUESTION IS, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS FOR THE RESALE OF THE ENTIRE PARCEL WITH ANY OTHER PARTIES AT THIS TIME?
>> THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. THANK YOU.
>> THANKS. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
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>> ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION?
>> A MOTION TO THE NEXT PROPERTY INTO THE TOWN.
WE'VE GOT TO START WITH THE ANNEXATION IS ONE VOTE THE FUTURE LAND USE IS THE SECOND VOTE.
NO COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION FROM ANYONE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> WHAT WAS THE MOTION, MR. COMMISSER?
>> THE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY.
>> THE FIRST ONE IS TO ALLOW FOR THE ANNEXATION.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KEENAN. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> THE SECOND ITEM IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OF THAT?
>> I SO MOVE TO APPROVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
>> COMMISSIONER KELSO, CAN YOU SECOND.
>> COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. ALL IN FAVOR FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
>> UNANIMOUS. THIRD IS THE REZONING.
COULD I HAVE A MOTION BY SOMEONE ON THAT?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THE C SECTION FOR THE ZONING AS IT STANDS.
>> COMMISSIONER BENSON, MAKES THE MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> COMMISSIONER ASSET. ALL IN FAVOR.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THAT APPROVES. THANK YOU.
[3. Wendy's]
THE WENDY'S SITE PLAN SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE AND REPLACE AN EXISTING NON CONFORMING FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, REDUCE NON CONFORMITIES ON THE PROPERTY, RECONFIGURE THE DRIVE THROUGH A PARKING AREA AT OUTDOOR SEATING, REQUEST AN OFFSITE, DUMAS AND PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO THE TOWN TO MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.ARE THERE ANY EPTE DISCLOSURES, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> DROVE BY THE SITE AND SPOKE TO THE TOWN STAFF.
>> NO DISCLOSURE. I SPOKE WITH TOWN STAFF AND DROVE BY THE SITE. COMMISSIONER DUNNING.
>> THANK YOU. APPLICANT IS WELCOME TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF P&Z BOARD.
MY NAME IS CRAIG MCDONALD THE CORPORATE PROPERTY SERVICES ON BEHALF OF WENDY'S RESTAURANT.
WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THE WENDY'S AT 626, WEST INDIANTOWN ROAD, JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX HERE.
JUST TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO.
WE'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH THE 2,666 SQUARE FOOT WENDY'S RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH.
DOWN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER, THERE'S A 358 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED COOLER FREEZER ADJACENT TO THE DUMPSTER AND THE RECYCLING ENCLOSURE AS WELL.
THAT WILL ALL BE DEMOLISHED AS WELL.
UP IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, WE'RE GOING TO GET OFF THE ONE WAY IN ACCESS FROM THAT INTERNAL ACCESS DRIVE THAT EXISTS TODAY.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE EXISTING NON CONFORMING WENDY'S RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH.
WE'RE GOING TO DECREASE THE EXISTING SITE NON CONFORMITIES.
WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE THE VEHICULAR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO AND FROM THE SITE.
THE RESTAURANTS PROPOSE TO BE OPEN AND OPERATIONAL FROM 6:00 AM IN THE MORNING TO 1:30 AM, SUNDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
I WANT TO RUN THROUGH A LIST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR WE GET TO THE SLIDES.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A 2,228 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WITH 487 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR DINING.
WE'VE GOT VASTLY ENHANCED CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THAT COMPLIES WITH THE IOZ DESIGN GUIDELINES.
WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND SAFE ON SITE CIRCULATION.
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THE LANDSCAPING FOR THE SITE IS GOING TO BE VAS IMPROVED.IT'S GOING TO GO FROM 18.3-28.36%.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE SLIDES COMING UP.
I'LL PROVIDE AN ADA CONNECTION TO INDIANTOWN ROAD WHERE NONE EXISTS TODAY.
WE'RE GOING TO REWORK THE CURB CUTS OFF INDIANTOWN ROAD AND THE SOUTHEAST CORNER INGRESS EGRESS CURB CUT TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT STANDARDS AND MAKE ACCESS INTO AND LEAVING THE SITE A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN IT IS TODAY.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO PROVIDE VEHICULAR INGRESS EGRESS TO THE TOWN'S MUNICIPAL COMPLEX FROM INDIANTOWN ROAD THROUGH THE WENDY SITE TO THE COMPLEX.
WE'RE REQUESTED A DUMPSTER EASEMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY SO THAT WE CAN CONCEAL THE ENCLOSURES FROM INDIANTOWN ROAD WITH THE BUILDING.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO REDUCE THE OBVIOUSLY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE DECREASES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REDUCTION IN DAILY TRAFFIC TRIPS PLUS AM/PM PEAK HOUR.
HERE'S JUST THE BLACK AND WHITE SITE PLAN, SO WE COULD TRY TO SHOW YOU THE 25 FOOT PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT WE'RE DISCUSSING, THAT'S GOING TO RUN FROM INDIANTOWN ROAD ALL THE WAY TO OUR SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO ENTER THE MS COMPLEX EASILY FROM INDIANTOWN ROAD.
WE HAVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT, THERE'S THE BUS STOP.
WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK FROM THAT BUS STOP THAT'LL RUN ALL THE WAY INTO MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
YOU'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT WESTERN SIDEWALK FROM THE BUILDING THAT CROSSES THE 25 FOOT PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT.
THE ADA ACCESS CONNECTION TO INDIANTOWN ROAD WILL OCCUR FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN IT'LL CONTINUE SOUTH INTO THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX AND CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK THAT'S JUST ADJACENT TO THE PARKING THAT'S THERE TODAY.
HERE'S THE COLORED SITE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH LANDSCAPING IS ON SITE AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
IT'S A VAST IMPROVEMENT OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY AND A REALLY SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE.
YOU CAN SEE ALSO THE ENTRANCE OFF OF INDIANTOWN ROAD DOWN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, AND THEN THE ACCESS EVEN THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY ON THE SITE TODAY.
THE DUMPSTERS ARE ALSO LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE BUILDING IN THE DRIVE IN THAT LITTLE AREA WHICH WE'RE REQUESTING AN EASEMENT FROM THE TOWN, SO THEY'LL BE COMPLETELY SHIELDED FROM VIEW FROM INDIANTOWN ROAD.
HERE'S A PEDESTRIAN PATHOS TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TO CONNECT TO THE BUS STOP THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY AND CONNECT INTO THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
HERE'S A 25 FOOT PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WILL BE PROVIDING THE TOWN THAT'LL PROVIDE DIRECT ACCESS FROM INDIANTOWN RIGHT INTO THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
THIS IS OUR COLORED LANDSCAPE SITE PLAN THAT WE IMPOSED ONTO THE TOWN'S MUNICIPAL LANDSCAPE PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE THE VAST AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE AND WE'RE PROPOSING ON OUR SITE AND HOW WE REALLY FIT IN TO THE OVERALL MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
THIS IS THE COLORED SITE PLAN OVERLAID ON AN AERIAL, AND YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY FROM THE TOWN MUNICIPAL COMPLEX INTO OUR SITE AND BACK OUT TO INDIANTOWN ROAD WITH THE PARKING THAT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED ON THE EAST AND THE NORTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
THE 25 FOOT PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT CLEARLY DEFINED BY SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT PATH AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PEDESTRIAN PATHS DOWN IN THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX A TIE AS WELL.
THERE'S THE OVERALL AERIAL THAT SHOWS THE SITE AND MILITARY TRAIL, DANIEL'S WAY, AND WEST INDIANTOWN ROAD, AND HOW THE CONNECTION FROM OUR SITE TO ALL THOSE ADJACENT ROADWAYS WOULD WORK.
HERE'S A VASTLY ENHANCED ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FROM WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
WE'VE GOT MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF MATERIALS ON THE BUILDING, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN SEE IF YOU VISIT THE SITE UPGRADE THIS IS GOING TO BE TO THIS SITE.
WITH THAT SAID, WE WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD.
WE DO AGREE WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
WE'RE GOING TO BURY THE UTILITY LINES.
WE'RE GOING TO LANDSCAPE THE MEDIAN.
ONE DISCUSSION WE'D LIKE TO HAVE WITH STAFF IN BETWEEN NOW AND COMMISSION IS MAYBE SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THE STREET LIGHT CONDITION THAT'S BEEN IMPOSED ON US.
WE ARE PROVIDING THE 25 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT, PUTTING SOME CONNECTIVITY, AND THE AVALORM TAXES, MY CLIENT'S BEEN PAYING FOR 30 PLUS YEARS IN THIS SITE.
WE'RE JUST HOPING WE HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSIONS FROM CONSIDERATION ON THAT COMMENT.
BUT THE REST OF IT WE AGREE WITH.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
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>> I'LL LEAVE IT UP ON THAT PICTURE. I PRESENT.
GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD, GARRETT WATSON WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, BASICALLY A KNOCKDOWN AND REBUILD OF AN EXISTING NON CONFORMING RESTAURANT.
THIS RESTAURANT PRECEDED THE IOZ THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1989, WAS BUILT BEFORE THEN, SO IT EXISTS AS A LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE.
AROUND 2011, THE TOWN WAS LOOKING TO ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT OF SOME OF THOSE NON CONFORMING USES.
WE HAD A LOT OF THEM IN THE IOZ.
WE DEVELOPED SOME PROVISIONS IN THE COMP PLAN AND THE CODE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE STRUCTURES TO RENOVATE.
THERE WERE SOME PROVISIONS FOR THAT.
THERE COULDN'T BE AN INCREASE IN INTENSITY BEYOND 10%.
THERE COULDN'T BE AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF STORIES.
IT COULDN'T EXPAND ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES, AND EXISTING NON CONFORMITIES ON THE PROPERTY NEEDED TO BE REDUCED AND OR ELIMINATED.
THIS PROJECT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THOSE PROVISIONS.
>> WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS ONCE BEFORE IN 2017, WENDY'S RECEIVED SITE PLAN APPROVAL, BUT THAT SITE PLAN APPROVAL HAS SINCE EXPIRED.
THAT PLAN WAS AN IMPROVEMENT FROM WHAT IS OUT THERE TODAY, BUT THIS PLAN IS AN IMPROVEMENT FROM THAT PLAN AND THAT APPROVAL.
WE HAVE INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENTS C, THE STAFF REPORT FROM BACK THEN BECAUSE IT COVERS A LOT OF CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ROLLED OVER TO TODAY.
MOST NOTABLY, THERE'S A LOT OF EASEMENTS THAT ARE SHARED BETWEEN WENDY'S, BETWEEN THE BANK THAT'S NEXT DOOR, AND BETWEEN THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, AND THEY'RE ALL TO THE BENEFIT OF EACH OTHER.
THEY'RE ALL FOR THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPING, SIDEWALKS, PARKING, COMMON ASSETS THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE SHARED BETWEEN INTERCONNECTED PROPERTIES.
THAT HISTORY LIVES REALLY IN THAT OLD STAFF REPORT, AND IS JUST REFERENCED IN THIS REPORT THROUGH THAT OLD STAFF REPORT.
SOME OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT ENHANCEMENTS I JUST MENTIONED WITH THIS SITE PLAN AS OPPOSED TO 2017, INCLUDE THE NEW FORMAL DRIVEWAY THAT LEADS INTO TOWN HALL, REALLY THE NEW MUNICIPAL BUILDING THAT WE'RE SITTING AND WILL BE THE TERMINAL VISTA OF THAT ENTRYWAY.
A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF VEHICULAR CONFLICTS.
IF YOU SPENT ANY TIME AT ALL ON THE DRIVE THROUGH, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE UNUSABLE ONCE YOU HAVE A FEW CARS THERE.
THIS PLAN IS GOING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VEHICULAR CONFLICTS.
THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING INCREASED ON SITE.
ALMOST EVERY NON-CONFORMITY WAS COMPLETELY ELIMINATED, AND GREEN SPACE WAS VERY CLOSE TO BEING CODE-COMPLIANT.
LASTLY, A LOT MORE DRIVE THROUGH STACKING THAN WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AS IT RELATES TO THE COMPOUND POLICY, THIS IS A DECREASE IN INTENSITY, SO IT COMPLIES WITH THAT PROVISION.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT ADDING A SECOND STORY.
IT'S NOT EXPANDING ONTO ANOTHER PROPERTY BEYOND WHAT EXISTS ALREADY TODAY THROUGH ALL OF THOSE VARIOUS EASEMENT AGREEMENTS, AND ALL THE NON-CONFORMITIES HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED, OR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED.
I'M GOING TO COVER JUST A FEW CONDITIONS REAL QUICK AND THEN I'LL CONCLUDE.
WE HAVE FIRST A CONDITION AS IT RELATES TO THE FAST FOOD USE FOR THE DUMPSTER.
TO PUT ON THE RECORD, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ISSUE OF WENDY'S EVER HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THEIR DUMPSTER, OR ODOR.
BUT A COMMON ISSUE THAT DOES COME UP WITH FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS OVER TIME IS THAT THEIR DUMPSTERS BECOME UNKEPT.
IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM MAINTAINING IT, AND TO ALLOW FOR THE TOWN TO HAVE SOME PROVISION TO ENFORCE THE CODE, WE'VE ADDED A CONDITION THAT SHOULD A NOTICE OF VIOLATION BE FOUND ON THIS PROPERTY, THAT THEY'D HAVE TO SUBMIT A DUMPSTER ODOR MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND THAT COULD INCLUDE A SEALED DUMPSTER, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY SEALED STRUCTURES THAT ARE TAKEN OFF SITE, SANITIZED, THEN A NEW CLEAN ONE IS BROUGHT IN ON SITE.
WE'VE SEEN THAT AT THE CULVER'S RESTAURANT.
THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS THAT WAS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, WHEREAS THIS HAS SOME MORE DISTANCE, BUT IT IS A COMMON THING, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT COVERED.
IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING, YOU WILL NOTE ON PAGE 2-6, THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NON-CONFORMITIES THAT EXIST TODAY.
REAL BRIEFLY, THOSE ARE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS THAT ARE NON-COMPLIANT, TERMINAL LANDSCAPE ISLANDS THAT DON'T EXIST OR AREN'T COMPLIANT.
A GREEN SPACE IS SUBSTANDARD, AND FOUNDATION PLANTINGS ARE ALMOST NONEXISTENT.
AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THOSE ARE ALL BEING ELIMINATED.
LANDSCAPE BUFFERS WILL BE ENTIRELY COMPLIANT WITH TOWN CODE.
FOUNDATION PLANTING IS GOING TO BE COMPLIANT WITH TOWN CODE.
LANDSCAPE ISLANDS CONFORM TO TOWN CODE, AND THE GREEN SPACE IS JUST 1.6% SHORT OF CODE COMPLIANT, BUT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ENHANCEMENT FROM WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
AS IT RELATES TO EASEMENTS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF EXISTING EASEMENTS THAT ALREADY ARE BETWEEN ALL OF OUR PARTIES HERE ON THE MUNICIPAL CAMPUS AND WENDY'S AND THE BANK.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD A COUPLE OF NEW ONES TO THAT LIST.
THERE'S A PUBLIC CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT THAT MR. MCDONALD WAS MENTIONING, THAT'S FOR THE NEW ENTRY DRIVEWAY.
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THAT WILL BE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE TOWN AND THE RESIDENTS.THERE'S A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT BEING REQUESTED.
WENDY'S HAS THE RIGHT TO UTILIZE A PORTION OF THE BANK'S PROPERTY FOR PARKING, AND ACCESS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT CONSTRUCTION WAS NOT COVERED IN THAT EASEMENT, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDED NOTICE, AND AGREE AND TOWN SIGNAGE EASEMENT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A WAY FINDING PROGRAM FOR TOWN HALL TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN FIND THEIR WAY AROUND.
WENDY'S, SPECIFICALLY, THE SOUTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, MAY INCLUDE A PIECE OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT SURE AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO LEAVE OPTIONS OPEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FACILITATE THE MOVEMENT OF THE PUBLIC AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
THOSE ARE ALL EASEMENTS THAT WENDY'S IS GIVING REALLY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE TOWN.
IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, A DUMPSTER EASEMENT FOR WENDY'S FROM THE TOWN IS TO OFFSET THAT.
IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PLAN, THE APPLICANT PROVED THAT THE DUMPSTER COULD BE PUT ENTIRELY ON SITE, NO EASEMENT NEEDED.
BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE TERMINATING VISTA OF THAT ROADWAY.
AS YOU CAME IN, YOU WOULD SEE TOWN HALL AND THE DUMPSTERS RIGHT OFF TO YOUR RIGHT, AND IT DIDN'T MAKE FOR THE TYPE OF AESTHETICS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF EASEMENTS THE APPLICANT WAS GIVING TO THE TOWN, I FELT APPROPRIATE TO OFFSET THAT, AND MOVE THE LOCATION OF THOSE DUMPSTERS.
NOT ONLY BE SAFER FOR THEM TO ACCESS, BUT TO PROVIDE A VISUAL ENHANCEMENT TO THE TOWN AND ITS RESIDENTS.
THAT'S ALSO A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, MR. MCDONALD NOTED THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO UNDERGROUND THE UTILITIES OR PAY A FEE IN LIEU FOR THAT.
AS PART OF THAT, WHEN THOSE UTILITIES GO UNDERGROUND, WHICH IS A CODE REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE UTILITIES TO GO UNDERGROUND.
WHAT'S LEFTOVER IS THE WOODEN POLES WITH THE COBRA HEADS.
WHAT'S BEEN OUR PRACTICE IS TO INSTALL THE DECORATIVE STREET LIGHTING THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF BRAMAN BMW, IN FRONT OF WALMART.
THAT DECORATIVE STREET LIGHTING ISN'T A CODE REQUIREMENT PER SE, BUT IT'S PART OF THAT PROCESS OF BRINGING THEM DOWN.
WE'LL HAVE TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE THAT, AND IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
LASTLY, REALLY THE LAST MAJOR CONDITIONS ARE RELATED TO SIGNAGE.
THEY HAVE FACADE SIGNAGE THAT'S TOWN CODE COMPLIANT.
IT'S ADEQUATELY SIZED FOR THE BUILDING.
IT'S NOT OVERLY SIZED, AND THEY HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN THAT THEY'VE PROPOSED, WHICH COMPLIES WITH OUR TYPICAL SEVEN FOOT HEIGHT THAT YOU'VE SEEN NUMEROUS TIMES IN NUMEROUS DEVELOPMENTS RECENTLY.
JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYS, WE'VE ADDED THAT AS A CONDITION.
SOMETIMES THINGS COME BACK AFTER THE FACT, AND IF THERE'S NO CONDITION IN THERE, AMENDMENTS CAN HAPPEN.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYED AS SOMETHING AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION IN PERPETUITY.
LASTLY, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A SECTION ON PAGE 2-8 THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ELECTRONIC MENU BOARD.
I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THAT A MILLION TIMES OVER THE YEARS TO FAST FOOD, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER OR HAS NOT HISTORICALLY BEEN ALLOWED.
THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF CHANGES OVER THE YEARS THAT HAVE LED TO THE POSSIBILITY OF OPENING THE DOOR FOR THIS.
MOST NOTABLY IN 2019, WE PROCESSED A CODE AMENDMENT FOR THE MALTZ THEATER TO HAVE A CHANGEABLE COPY SIGN, AND THAT WAS DONE IN ELECTRONIC FASHION.
IT WAS DONE TO BE MORE EFFICIENT FOR THEM TO LOOK NICER, AND TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THEIR SHOW DEMAND.
THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE WENT THROUGH A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO APPLY TO THAT TYPE OF SIGNAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE, AND THAT IT WASN'T TOO BRIGHT, AND THAT IT DIDN'T CHANGE MESSAGING TOO OFTEN.
THOSE THINGS WERE LAID OUT IN THE CODE.
WE'VE COPIED ESSENTIALLY THOSE EXACT CODE PROVISIONS OVER WITH THIS CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR WENDY'S PROPOSED ELECTRONIC MENU BOARD SIGNAGE.
IN REVIEWING THOSE CODE SECTIONS, WHAT CAME TO LIGHT WAS THAT YOU CAN REALLY LIMIT THESE TYPES OF SIGNS TO MAKE THEM CONFORM TO BASICALLY ACT EXACTLY AS AN EXISTING MENU BOARD SIGNAGE.
BUT INSTEAD OF ROTATING THEM AROUND EVERY DAY, TWICE A DAY, YOU WOULD JUST SIMPLY CHANGE THE MESSAGING ON THE COMPUTER.
THESE CONDITIONS ACCOMPLISH THAT, AND MAKE THE NEW ELECTRONIC BOARD FUNCTION VERY SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING BOARDS, BUT DOING IT SO IN THE 21ST CENTURY.
REALLY QUICK, BEFORE I CONCLUDE, I WANTED TO POINT OUT ON PAGE 2-5 AND 2-6, WE ADOPTED A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM.
THAT'S AN ACTION ITEM WE HAVE TO SECURE A RIGHT AWAY TRANSFER AGREEMENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ENABLE THE REALIGNMENT OF DANIEL'S WAY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY CAME UP DURING THE ORIGINAL WENDY'S APPROVAL BACK IN 2017, 2018.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS BACK THEN THAT WERE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY ARE NOW.
WE'VE NOTED THOSE IN THE REPORT.
MOST NOTABLY THAT THE STUDENTS HAVE STARTED PARKING OFF MILITARY TRAIL, AND NOT DANIEL'S WAY.
THAT WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE BECAUSE THE STUDENTS USED TO BACK UP ON DANIEL'S WAY FROM THE SCHOOL TO INDIANTOWN ROAD ON A DAILY BASIS,
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AND THAT NO LONGER OCCURS.AS WELL AS WE'VE MADE A NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS BETWEEN TOWN HALL, MILITARY TRAIL, AND INDIANTOWN ROAD THAT DIDN'T EXIST BACK THEN.
WE'VE PERFECTED THOSE EVERY TIME WE'VE HAD A SITE PLAN CHANGE HERE ON TOWN HALL.
THERE'S AN EXHIBIT THAT'S ATTACHMENT D, THAT SHOWS ALL OF THOSE.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF ALL THOSE CHANGING CONDITIONS.
IT'S SOMETHING FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
BUT WE WANTED YOU TO SEE ALL THAT GOOD CONNECTIVITY THAT'S BEEN WORKED ON OVER THE YEARS.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CONCLUDE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THANKS, KEVIN. LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN ON QUESTIONS.
>> JUST ONE, OR TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.
ONE IS, I SAW THAT THERE IS A GREATLY EXPANDED EXTERIOR SEATING AREA AS PART OF THE PLAN.
IS THERE ANY INTERIOR SEATING THAT REMAINS? HAS IT BEEN REDUCED DRAMATICALLY? WHAT'S THE STORY ON THE SEAT?
>> THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT MORE SPECIFICALLY, BUT THERE STILL IS INTERIOR SEATING AS WELL AS OUTDOOR SEATING THAT'S BEING ADDED.
>> YES. THERE'S DEFINITELY INTERIOR SEATING FOR THE RESTAURANT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
THE DRIVE THROUGH GENERATES A LOT OF THE BUSINESS WITH THIS TYPE OF USE TODAY.
BUT IT'LL ENHANCE WITH THE OUTDOOR DINING, ESPECIALLY IN THE MONTHS WE HAVE IN FLORIDA NOW.
IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO SIT OUTSIDE AND ENJOY A MEAL.
>> IS THE TOTAL SEATING CAPACITY DRAMATICALLY INCREASED FROM WHAT IT IS TODAY?
>> NO. IT'S JUST ABOUT THE SAME, I THINK.
>> YEAH. I THINK WE'VE DECREASED ON THE INTERIOR A LITTLE BIT.
>> THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WITH RESPECT TO THE DUMPSTER, IS THERE A PROBLEM FROM THE GET-GO IMPLEMENTING A SEALED DUMPSTER APPROACH?
>> IT'S AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.
LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN 2017, IT WAS A REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT THAT IT BE TRIGGERED BY A NOTICE OF VIOLATION BECAUSE WE WEREN'T AWARE OF ANY ISSUES, AND WE HADN'T ENCOUNTERED ANY ISSUES.
LIKE I STATED BEFORE, I HAVE TO DATE, NOT HEARD OF ANY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THAT, BUT WE WANTED TO CARRY THAT FORWARD BECAUSE IT WAS A DECISION OF COUNSEL TO ADOPT THAT PREVIOUSLY.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THE LOCATION VIA THE EASEMENT THAT MIGHT MAKE IT MORE PROMINENT IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO DETECT ODORS?
>> BACK WHERE IT'S PROPOSED, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY ANYMORE, THAT'S THE BACK OF THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING.
GIVEN THAT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE WILL SHIFT TO WHAT WENDY'S WILL PROVIDE, IT'LL BE EVEN LESS UTILIZED.
IT'S NOT NEAR ANY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE HIGHEST CONCERN.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF FACTORS THAT GIVE A GREAT CONCERN THERE, BUT UTILIZING THE CONDITION, IF THERE EVER IS AN ISSUE, LET'S SAY TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING IT, AND WE CAN'T GET THEM TO MAINTAIN IT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THAT.
>> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS PROBABLY ON BOTH SIDES, WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH PAYING FOR THE LIGHTING.
IF EVERYBODY ELSE PAYS FOR THEIR LIGHTING, AS YOU STATED, THE CAR COMPANY, IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR LIGHTING, THEN WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE WHEN THERE'S BEEN EASEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND MOVED IN A LOT OF CONCESSIONS FOR A NON-CONFORMING BUILDING TO START WITH?
>> THE CONDITION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ADDING THE DECORATIVE LIGHTS ALONG INDIANTOWN ROAD.
WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME CONSIDERATION THERE.
THIS ACTUAL OWNER OPERATOR OF THE STORE.
WENDY'S HAS BEEN HERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS, PAID A BUNCH OF AD VALOREM TAXES.
WE'RE GOING TO AGREE TO BURY THE POWER LINES.
WE'RE ACTUALLY ALSO AGREEING TO LANDSCAPE THE MEETING OUT THERE.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO GET SOME CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WE ARE PROVIDING THAT 25 FOOT PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT IN.
WE'RE PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN FOR THE TOWN TO CONNECT BACK IN THERE.
WE'RE JUST WITH SOME DISCUSSIONS WE WANT TO HAVE WITH STAFF FURTHER BEFORE WE GET TO COUNCIL.
>> IT'S A TYPICAL CONDITION THAT LIKE I SAID, WHEN THOSE UTILITIES GET UNDERGROUNDED, THAT THAT DECORATIVE STREET LIGHTING OCCUR.
IT'S BEEN A STANDARD CONDITION SINCE ABOUT 2012, MAYBE A LITTLE EARLIER.
THAT SAID, THE CODE IS SPECIFIC TO UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES, AND THE LIGHTS ARE AN ASPECT OF THAT, BUT NOT CLEARLY DEFINED IN THE TOWN CODE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME FURTHER INVESTIGATION TO SEE IF THERE'S DISCRETION THAT COUNCIL COULD GRANT THAT OR NOT.
>> DOES THIS DISCUSSION PASSING THIS, AND AGREEING WITH THIS TONIGHT CHANGE THAT?
>> YOU COULD CERTAINLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL IF YOU FELT STRONGLY ABOUT THAT CONDITION BEING IN THERE OR NOT?
>> I'M SAYING IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT, IF WE VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT, AND WE OKAY IT THEN IT'S INCLUDED AS IS WITH THE LIGHTS?
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>> THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A CHANGE UNLESS WE DON'T PASS IT?
>> SPECIFICALLY, IT WOULD BE CONDITION 7B IN EXHIBIT 1, WHICH IS ON PAGE 2-13, MIDDLE OF THE PAGE.
THAT WOULD BE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
>> BUT AS IT STANDS, IT'S WITH THE LIGHTS, CORRECT?
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
>> I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M ASKING ABOUT GARBAGE, OR THE WORDS DUMPSTER MITIGATION.
>> DAVID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MIC IS ON?
HOWEVER, WALK ME DOWN THIS TIMELINE, AND THIS IS FOR STAFF, IF THE PROPERTY IS ISSUED A NOTICE OF VIOLATION THAT NOTICE OF VIOLATION IS ISSUED UPON DISCOVERY OF SAID ODOR OR WHATNOT?
>> SO WITHIN ABOUT 24-HOURS OR SO?
>> CORRECT. WE WOULD HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED.
CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD GO OUT AND DOCUMENT THE VIOLATION, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE PAPERWORK AND PROCESSING.
>> SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S 24-HOURS.
THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF DAY PROCESS.
>> TYPICALLY, YEAH, IT'S MORE.
>> THEN WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THEN, WENDY'S HAS A CHANCE TO REVIEW, AND GET APPROVED THEIR ODOR MITIGATION PLAN?
>> THEY JUST NEED TO SUBMIT WITHIN 30 DAYS A DUMPSTER ODOR MITIGATION PLAN, AND IT CAN HAVE A VARIOUS NUMBER OF STRATEGIES TO RE REVIEWED BY THE TOWN.
WE GAVE SOME OPTIONS IN THERE, SUCH AS A SEALED DUMPSTER, GARBAGE PICKUP SCHEDULES, INSTALLATION TIME FRAMES AND PERMITTING.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE OPTIONS.
>> FROM START TO FINISH, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, IT COULD BE MINIMUM 30 DAYS, MAXIMUM UNTIL YOU CAN GET A LID FOR THE GARBAGE?
>> YEAH, UNTIL THEY CAN SECURE AND FINALIZE WHATEVER THEIR STRATEGIES ARE FOR MITIGATING DUMPSTERS.
IT MAY BE SOMETHING AS EASY AS, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF PICK UP.
WE REALIZE THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS SANITIZED AND INSTEAD OF GETTING PICKED UP ONCE A WEEK, IT WILL GET PICKED UP TWICE A WEEK.
THERE ARE VARIOUS NUMBER OF STRATEGIES.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE SEALED DUMPSTER.
>> BUT SOMETHING COULD BE DONE?
>> JUST SEEMS A LOT OF TIME REGARDLESS.
IT SEEMS A LITTLE ISSUE THAT COULD BE SOLVED VERY QUICKLY.
PERHAPS, AND REALLY, THIS IS A CARRIER FROM THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN APPROVAL THAT THE COUNCIL HAD VOTED TO IMPOSE AS IT RELATES TO IF A NOTICE OF VIOLATION WERE TO OCCUR.
WE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD AGAIN FOR CONSIDERATION, BUT IF YOU FEEL AS THOUGH IT'S AN UNNECESSARY ASPECT, YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.
>> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I THINK NOTING THE OBVIOUS IRONY OF MR. MCDONALD WORKING ON BEHALF OF WENDY'S, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE NOTICED THAT.
>> [LAUGHTER] I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS ABOUT TRUCK ACCESS AND DELIVERIES.
CAN YOU JUST SHOW REAL QUICK ON THE SITE PLAN HOW A SEMI WOULD PARK IN THE PARKING LOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DRIVE AND THE PARKING WOULDN'T BE IMPACTED?
>> MR. MCDONALD MAY COME UP HERE, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND MR. MCDONALD, WHEN HE COME UP HERE THE SIZE OF VEHICLES AS WELL THAT TYPICALLY DO DROP OFF AND THE LOCATION.
>> SEE IF I CAN GET YOU BACK TO THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S GOING TO BLOW UP. THERE YOU GO.
MOST LIKELY THE TRUCKS AND WE DO USE 18 WHEELERS FOR DELIVERY, FOR SURE.
THEY HAVE BOX TRUCKS FOR CERTAIN TYPE OF DELIVERIES AS WELL.
BUT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MAXIMUM SIZE, WE DO HAVE THAT DELIVERED.
THEY WOULD ENTER OFF WEST INDIANTOWN ROAD AND THEN CIRCLE ON THE BYPASS LANE.
YOU CAN SEE THE DRIVE THROUGH CARS RIGHT THERE, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER OR EXIT THE SITE AND HEAD BACK OUT TO INDIANTOWN ROAD.
>> THEY PARK ON THE PLAN SOUTH ALONG THAT BACK ROAD AND THEN WHEEL ACROSS.
BECAUSE YOUR ENTRY TO THAT STORAGE AREA IS ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE DOORS?
>> YEAH. BUT THEY ONLY COME IN NON PEAK HOURS.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN REAL EARLY MORNING OR AFTER DINNER RUSH.
WHEN THEY PARK THERE, THEY JUST WHEEL IT OFF.
BUT THE BACK PORTION OF THE BUILDINGS ARE COOLER FREEZER AND A LOT OF THE SUPPLIES ARE BROUGHT BACK RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
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>> AND ANOTHER QUESTION, IT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE TO ME THAT THE ADT IS GOING TO DECREASE.
IS THAT JUST BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING? IT DOESN'T TAKE ACCOUNT OF DRIVE THROUGH TODAY OF A WENDY'S OR CHICK FIL A OR WHATEVER COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO IS?
>> I THINK IT REGULATES GRAPHIC FOR DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT.
>> BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT TO ME AS A BUSINESS PERSON THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FEWER TRIPS IN THIS NEW LOCATION THAT YOU DO COMPARED TO THE OLD LOCATION.
>> BASED UPON THE SIZE, IT'S GOING FROM 2,600 TO 2,300. DECREASE A LITTLE BIT.
>> THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER DUNNING.
>> QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. WITH REGARDS TO THE LANDSCAPE MEDIUM CONTRIBUTION, HOW DO YOU INTEND TO?
>> TAKE CARE OF THAT. HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO HAVING SECURITY CAMERAS IN YOUR AREA OUTSIDE? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE PERCEPTIVE TO DOING?
>> I THINK THIS OWNER OPERATOR DOESN'T INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS.
THAT'S USUALLY UP TO THE OPERATOR OF THE STORE, BUT I'M SURE THOUGH IF IT'S THE TOWN'S LOOKING FOR US TO.
>> WOULD YOU MIND HAVING THAT AS PART OF THE APPROVAL?
>> I SUPPOSE WE COULD AGREE TO THAT.
>> VERY GOOD. THE ONLY OTHER THING WAS BIKE RACKS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE ONE BIKE RACK THERE.
WE HAVE A LARGE POPULATION THAT RIDE BIKES IN OUR AREA, AND PERHAPS YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT ANOTHER ONE THERE, I GUESS DEPENDING ON THE NEED FOR IT, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP OUT.
>> ABSOLUTELY IF THE DEMANDS THERE WE'LL PUT IT IN FOR SURE FOR CUSTOMERS.
>> THANKS. COMMISSIONER CASSATLY.
>> THANK YOU. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT JUST HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS.
IF WE DO A PRECEDENT WHERE WE EASE UP ON A DECORATIVE LIGHTING, DOWN THE ROAD, WILL WE HAVE TO EASE UP ON THAT FOR OTHER.
>> THEN MY OTHER ONE IS, IS THERE GOING TO BE A COOLER AIR OF THE DUMPSTER, LIKE THERE IS IN THE CURRENT STORE?
>> NO, THAT'S AN OLD CONCEPT. THAT'S WAY PAST THIS PROBLEM.
THE COOLER FREEZER ACTUALLY IS BEHIND THE BUILDING JUST THE WEST OF THE MAIN DINING ROOM AND THE KITCHEN.
>> I GUESS MY OTHER COMMENT, I'LL SAVE UNTIL WE HAVE A DISCUSSION, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THE SIGNAGE THAT THE ELECTRONIC SIGN.
>> THANKS. COMMISSIONER KELSO.
>> I APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND THE WAY YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON SO MANY ASPECTS OF THIS.
WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE TIME FOR COMPLETION AND WILL IT BE CLOSED FOR HOW LONG OR ASSUMING THAT ALL APPROVALS [OVERLAPPING]
>> USUALLY THIS WILL BE PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR MONTHS FROM THE TIME WE DEMOLISHED TO WHEN WE REOPEN.
I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET BEFORE COUNCIL IF WE GET APPROVED NEXT MONTH.
I THINK OUR PERMIT PLANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE READY SOON, SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE AT LEAST SUBMITTED AT OUR OWN RISK, JUST TO GET A JUMP START ON THAT, BUT I THINK THEY WANT TO GET STARTED IF WE COULD GET MAY OR JUNE AND HAVE IT BEFORE OCTOBER BACK OPEN IN THE SEASON.
IT'S FAIRLY QUICK TURN AROUND.
>> THEN I SAW THAT YOU'RE ADDING A TRASH RECEPTACLE OUTDOOR, WHICH MAKES SENSE.
I WOULD HOPE THAT JUST LIKE THE WAY CULVER'S HAS IT, SO THAT YOU CAN ACCESS IT FROM THE DRIVE THROUGH OR FOR OUTDOOR SEATING.
>> WE'LL HAVE TRASH CANS FOR THE OUTDOOR SEATING, THE DUMPSTERS DOWN BELOW, THAT I THINK CULVER'S CAME IN.
>> BUT IT TALKED ABOUT THE TRASH RECEPTACLE AND THE BENCHES. THAT WAS [OVERLAPPING].
>> WITH THE OUTDOOR SEATING, YES.
WE'LL BE PROVIDING THAT FOR SURE.
>> THEN THE ELECTRONIC BOARD, I ASSUME IT CHANGES LIKE FROM BREAKFAST TO LUNCH [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. IT GOES FROM BREAKFAST TO LUNCH AND DINNER.
IF YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH ANY FAST FOOD RESTAURANT THESE DAYS, I HAVE MULTIPLE CLIENTS.
WHAT IT'S DONE, IT'S BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE MENU BOARDS DOWN ALMOST IN HALF BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST LIKE A TV THERE.
IT'S SUCH A CLEAR, CLEAN CRISP PICTURE OF IT.
IT'S NOT MULTIPLE TIMES CHANGING.
IT'S JUST SIMPLY GOING LIKE GARRET WAS SAYING IN THE PAST, YOU HAVE TO GO OUT PULL A PIN AND ROTATE THE MENU BOARD AROUND.
THIS JUST ALLOWS THEM TO HIT A BUTTON INSIDE AND IT CHANGES FROM BREAKFAST TO LUNCH AND DINNER.
REALLY IT ONLY CHANGE ONE TODAY FOR THIS OPERATION.
>> I ALSO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS TOTAL TRIP GENERATION BEING LOWER.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN A BRAND NEW WENDY'S.
IT'S LIKE A NEW PUBLIC. EVERYBODY RUSHES THERE.
>> WE HOPE THAT OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU REBUILD A RESTAURANT, YOU HOPE THE DEMAND, PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND SEE IT.
BUT YOU CAN ONLY BASE TRAFFIC ON WHAT THE IT GENERATION, AND IT JUST BASED UPON SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT'S DECREASING ABOUT 300 SQUARE FEET, SO THEREFORE, IT COMES UP WITH LESS TRIPS,
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BUT MAYBE IT DON'T BE ABOUT THE SAME OR YOU HOPE WHEN YOU REBUILD A RESTAURANT, YOU DO DEFINITELY GET A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE IN BUSINESS, FOR SURE.THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PUTTING ALL THE MONEY INTO THIS.
>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
>> I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A QUESTION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SURE. IF YOU CAN COME UP AND SPEAK INTO THE MIC, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
>> HI GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA PARCHMENT, AND I SPECIFICALLY HAVE A QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO DIGITAL SIGNAGE THAT WENDY'S PROPOSING.
AS STATED EARLIER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF AT CITIES PROVIDE BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO MAKE THE CHANGES AND IT TAKES US INTO THE 21ST CENTURY.
MY QUESTION IS, IF IT'S APPROVED FOR WENDY'S, WILL OTHER BUSINESSES BE ABLE TO MAKE THE SAME APPLICATION TO HAVE THE CURRENT SIGNS CHANGE TO THAT OF A DIGITAL AS WELL? DOES IT OPEN THE DOOR FOR OTHER COMPANIES AS WELL?
>> WELL, SORRY, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS THE STAFF TO ADDRESS?
>> YES. YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT, JOHN. THANKS.
>> TYPICALLY, IF THE COUNCIL MAKES AN INTERPRETATION, WE WOULD APPLY THAT TO OTHER LOCATIONS IF THEY HAVE A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE.
YOU WILL ALSO NEED TO FILL OUT A GREEN CARD WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTACT US, WE CAN FOLLOW UP.
>> VERY GOOD. LET'S HAVE SOME DELIBERATION.
LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> I APOLOGIZE. THANKS. HI, HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ.
I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE WENDY'S.
COUNCILMAN, FOR YOUR QUESTION, WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING SURVEILLANCE OVER AT THE RESTAURANT.
FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. DELIBERATION. LET'S START THOUGHTS, COMMISSIONER KEENAN.
>> I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION AND YOU RAISED THE POINT, IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE A SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS, IT WOULD BE PRESUMABLY SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT THE STAFF HAS LAID OUT.
BUT ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS 7B HAS TO DO WITH LIGHTING.
HOW WOULD THAT BE ADDRESSED WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE ARE DOING TONIGHT?
>> WELL, I THINK AS JOHN SAID IT'S 7B, WAS IT JOHN?
>> I THINK WE EITHER APPROVE PER THIS OR WE CHANGE THIS.
ON CAUTION IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF PRECEDENT.
THIS AS GARRET SAID HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2012, AND IT'S BEEN REQUIRED PRETTY MUCH A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR ANYBODY ELSE DOING UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES ALONG INDIANTOWN.
>> JUST TO AVOID THE PRECEDENT, WE WOULD KEEP IT AS IS.
>> MINE IS STILL ON THE LIGHTING, AND AS HE SAID, I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENCE OF THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERY PERSON WHO'S BUILDING, REBUILDING, OR WHATEVER SAYING, I DON'T WANT THIS.
I DON'T WANT THAT. THIS IS WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR BUILDING OR INDOOR REBUILDING IS THAT YOU PUT YOUR LIGHTS OUT THERE.
YOU'RE BEING UNFAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED TO THAT STIPULATION AND THEN YOU'RE OPENING THE DOOR FOR THAT COST TO BE PUT ON THE TOWN.
I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM REQUESTING FOR IT TO BE TAKEN OUT.
I WOULD VOTE FOR IT TO STAY AS IS.
>> I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A BUSINESS ASKING FOR SOME LENIENCY OR CHANGES TO ANY PROJECT.
I THINK THAT'S THEIR RIGHT TO DO SO.
IT'S OURS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD.
I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING AND NOT ESTABLISH NEW PRECEDENTS AND CHANGING ANYTHING. THANKS.
>> I REALLY LIKE THE ARCHITECTURAL UPGRADE.
I LIKE THE STACKING OF THE DRIVE THROUGH, THE MINDFULNESS AROUND THAT, THE SAFETY, THE EASEMENTS, MAKING THE ENTRANCE TO THE CITY HALL COMPLEX MUCH EASIER FOR EVERYONE.
I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I AGREE.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT ISOLATING CERTAIN PROJECTS AND DEVIATING FROM WHAT WE'VE REQUIRED OF OTHER FOLKS. COMMISSIONER DUNNING.
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU.
I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN TAKE THE TRAFFIC OFF INDIANTOWN ROAD IS WELCOMED AND ME, FOR INSTANCE, I DON'T LIKE HANGING OUT ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, TRYING TO PULL INTO THE DRIVE THROUGH.
I THINK IT'LL PAY OFF BENEFITS ONCE YOU HAVE THAT DONE,
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YOU HAVE THE NEW SETUP DONE AND THE NEW RELOCATION.I WILL COME IN MORE IF I'M NOT ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, AND I THINK A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WILL, TOO. I APPRECIATE THAT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS IN THE PLAN AND SURE MY COLLEAGUES CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIGHTING AND THE SIGNAGE.
I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE STATEMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN SURVEILLANCE.
I THINK THAT'S WELL NEEDED IN THIS TIME.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CASSATLY.
>> EVERYTHING THAT I FELT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.
>> I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT PLAN.
I LIKE THE WAY THE TOWN AND THE APPLICANT HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO MAKE THE CONNECTIVITY MUCH BETTER AND GETTING THE TRAFFIC OFF OF INDIANTOWN ROAD. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLUM.
>> I AGREE WITH WHAT MS. KELSO HAS SAID THAT THE WAY YOU'VE WORKED TOGETHER HAS MADE A VERY NICE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
>> VERY GOOD. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE REQUEST?
>> COULD WE MAKE IT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN AND AMENDMENT SUBJECT TO THE NINE CONDITIONS SET OUT BY THE STAFF.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING SPECIFIC, YES.
MOTION TO APPROVE AS DRAFTED BY TOWN STAFF.
>> SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR.
>> ANY OPPOSED? APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
[4. Neighborhood Subdistrict Signage ]
NEIGHBORHOOD SUB-DISTRICT SIGNAGE, ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.CAN YOU GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION, PLEASE?
>> THIS IS A TOWN INITIATED, NOT A PRIVATE PARTY INITIATED.
>> GOOD EVENING FOR THE RECORD, SCOTT THATCHER WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
ABACOA, LOCATED IN THE MXD ZONING DISTRICT, HAS A SPECIAL SIGN CODE TO ALIGN WITH THE ATTRIBUTES AND CHARACTERISTICS OF A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT.
THE SIGN CODE WAS WRITTEN WITH MIXED USE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED COMMUNITIES IN MIND.
SPECIFICALLY, THE TOWN CODE ALLOWS NEIGHBORHOODS IN ABACOA TO HAVE SIXTH TALL ENTRY FEATURES.
WITH SIGNAGE AT A MAXIMUM OF 4 SQUARE FEET.
BUT ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BUILT AT THEIR ENTRANCES IN THE COMMUNITIES IN ABACOA.
NEW HAVEN, DURING ITS RECENT PLANNING TO UPDATE THEIR ENTRYWAYS AND PERIMETER LANDSCAPING, ALSO EVALUATED THEIR ENTRY SIGNAGE.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DESIRED TO REDEVELOPMENT ENTRYWAYS TO REMOVE THEIR ENTRY COLUMNS AND REPLACE WITH ENTRY WALLS.
THE NEW ENTRY WALLS ARE PROPOSED TO HAVE SIGNS AT 20 SQUARE FEET, WHICH EXCEEDS THE CODE'S MAXIMUM.
FOR COMPARISON, THE HIGH DENSITY USES OF RESIDENTIAL URBANIST SUB-DISTRICT, ALSO IN ABACOA, WHICH INCLUDES NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS OSCEOLA WOODS, AND SOPHIA ARE ALLOWED 35 SQUARE FEET.
IN FRONT OF YOU IS A SLIDE IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER IS SOPHIA, WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO 35 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY CONSTRUCTED THEIR SIGN WITH 24 SQUARE FEET.
IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OF ATTIC ABACOA, YOU'RE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF 100 SQUARE FEET, AND LIKE THE EXAMPLE ON THIS SLIDE, OCEAN WALK CONSTRUCTED AT 40 SQUARE FEET.
STAFF HAS REQUESTED TO PROCESS A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST TO ALLOW LARGER SIGNS.
[NOISE] STAFF NOTES THAT THE ABACOA PROPERTY OWNERS ASSEMBLY, INC. APPROVED NEW HAVEN'S PROPOSED DESIGN OF THE SIGN AND REVIEWED THE LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSED ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SLIDE.
THIS LANGUAGE WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO NOT JUST NEW HAVEN, BUT TO ALL NEIGHBORHOODS IN ABACOA.
THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT HAS SHOWN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHICH ONLY REFERENCES THE SIGNS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
IT DOES NOT SET STANDARDS FOR THOSE SIGNAGE.
STAFF WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU.
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LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER BLUM.
>> I LIVE IN ABACOA, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK THAT SIGN IS VERY ATTRACTIVE, AND YES, AS YOU GO THROUGH, IT'S HARD TO DELINEATE THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS FOR DIFFERENT YEARS.
>> SORRY, CAN I GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELSO.
>> I TOO AGREE WITH IT. I THINK IT'LL MAKE EVERYTHING MUCH EASIER TO FIND BECAUSE THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM BEFORE IS PEOPLE FINDING DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I AGREE.
>> MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS NB DISTRICT JUST IN ABACOA OR IS THIS THROUGHOUT JUPITER?
>> IT'S APPLICABLE TO THE MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT.
THE ONLY PROPERTY IN THE TOWN THAT HAS THAT ZONING IS THE ABACOA DEVELOPMENT.
>> THIS WAS INITIATED BY THE ABACOA PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, IS THAT RIGHT? THE REQUEST FOR CHANGE?
>> THE REQUEST WAS INITIATED BY THEM, AND THEN THE APPLICATION WAS DIRECTED BY THE MANAGER'S OFFICE.
>> THIS DOESN'T SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER PARTS OF JUPITER.
THIS IS JUST SPECIFIC TO ABACOA.
>> THE REST OF JUPITER HAS A HIGHER NUMBER THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED.
>> DOES THE STAFF HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS, WHETHER IT'S DETRIMENTAL OR NEUTRAL?
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S DETRIMENTAL, BUT THE MXT ZONING DISTRICT HAD VERY DELIBERATE PROVISIONS THAT WERE SET FORTH IN IT, TO REALLY DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ABACOA WOULD RESULT IN, INSTEAD THE REGULATIONS ARE VERY SPECIFICALLY TALLER TO BE DIFFERENT THAN CONVENTIONAL ZONING OR THE TYPICAL SUBURBAN SUBDIVISION.
>> HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT ORIGINAL CODE WRITTEN FOR THE ZONING.
LET'S SEE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON?
>> IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE EXISTING SIGN?
I THINK THAT THERE WAS A DESIRE TO HAVE LARGER AND DIFFERENT SIGNAGE PART OF THEIR UPGRADES THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN PURSUING.
>> WITH THIS CHANGE, I IMAGINE THAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES WILL END UP WANTING TO MAKE A SIMILAR CHANGE.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LOOKING SIGN.
I IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES OR AT LEAST HAVE THE PERCEIVED NOTION THAT IT WILL, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
THE OTHERS WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW SUIT.
>> IT'S LIKELY. PEOPLE USUALLY TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONESES.
>> WHERE ARE THE FUNDS COMING FROM FOR THIS? [OVERLAPPING] FROM THE HOA?
>> WHERE ARE THE FUNDS COMING FROM TO CREATE THE NEW SIGN?
>> IT WOULD BE FUNDED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, I PRESUME.
>> PROBABLY THE INDIVIDUAL HOA, NOT THE POA.
>> THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PASSED.
>> IS THIS SIGNAGE LIKE THAT'S ON A WALL? IS IT INTENDED FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A PERMANENT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PART AS A SIGN OR AS OPPOSED TO A SIGN FOR WENDY'S? WHEN IT SAYS SIGN, IT MAKES ME THINK OF A SIGN, NOT A WALL. ARE THERE STIPULATIONS?
>> THEY WILL BE SUBJECT TO SUBMITTING A BUILDING PERMIT.
IF THIS PASSES THROUGH THE COUNCIL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A BUILDING PERMIT WITH THE DETAILS.
YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THIS DESIGN, YOU'RE APPROVING OR YOU'RE CONSIDERING CHANGING THE CODE TO INCREASE THE SIGN COPY AREA, FACTUAL WORDS, NEW HAVEN, AND IN THIS CASE, THAT IS THE EXAMPLE, NEW HAVEN AT ABACOA.
YOU'RE CHANGING THAT NUMERICAL LIMIT FROM FOUR SQUARE FEET, WHICH THEY'RE CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO 20 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU.
THEY COULD COME BACK WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DESIGN.
>> I JUST HAD TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.
ONE IS, DO WE KNOW IF THIS APPLICATION FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE WALL ON THE SIGN, HOW MANY ROAD ENTRIES INTO ABACOA,
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NEW HAVEN WILL HAVE THIS WALL? IS IT JUST ONE? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS IN AND OUT.>> THEY'VE INDICATED TO US THEY WANT THEM AT THE TWO ENTRANCES, ONE OFF OF FREDERICKS MALL, AND THEN ONE OFF OF UNIVERSITY.
>> FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK FOR SIMILAR.
>> DO WE KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAS STANDING FOR THIS? THAT IS TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HOA AND THE POA WORKS IN ABACOA, BUT WHICH ENTITY HAS THE STANDING TO REQUEST THIS? I'M NOT SURE.
>> TYPICALLY, AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS WOULD BE FILED BY AN APPLICANT, APPLICATION FEE WOULD BE PAID, WE WOULD PROCESS IT THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS THROUGH THE DRC, AND BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL.
IN THIS CASE, THIS APPLICATION WAS DIRECTED BY THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD.
IT IS CONSIDERED A TOWN INITIATED AMENDMENT.
>> CONSIDERED TO BE A TOWN INITIATED AMENDMENT?
>> YES. STAFF INITIATED THIS AMENDMENT.
>> I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THANK YOU.
>> VERY GOOD. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'LL FILL OUT A CARD IF I NEED TO.
>> FOR THE RECORD, DONALDSON HEARING HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF NEW HAVEN HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
THEY HAVE THEIR BOARD MEETING TONIGHT.
OTHERWISE, THEY WOULD BE HERE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE.
THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT THEY'RE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF MILITARY TRAIL, UNLIKE ANY OF THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, ONE OF THE ENTRANCES IS WELL BACK FROM THE MAIN STREET.
THEY'RE BEHIND THE BERMUDIANA CENTER AND OF COURSE, THEN THEY'RE ON FREDERICKS MALL ACROSS FROM MUCH MORE SUBURBAN STANDARDS.
BUT I THINK AS POINTED OUT, THE CODE THAT EXISTS TODAY IS 25-YEARS-OLD.
SOME OF THE WAY FINDING IS CHALLENGING IN THERE TODAY AS POINTED OUT BY A FEW FOLKS, INCLUDING A FORMER APOA MANAGER THAT'S WELL VERY FAMILIAR WITH ABACOA.
WE THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STANDARD.
IT'S ONLY 20 SQUARE FEET, SO IT'S LESS THAN THE RESIDENTIAL URBAN STANDARD AND SIGNIFICANTLY 3-4 TIMES LESS THAN WHAT THE SUBURBAN STANDARDS SUCH AS ADMIRAL'S COV ACROSS THE STREET COULD DO ON THOSE AREAS.
THROUGHOUT THE AREAS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, MOST OF THE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN PUT SIGNAGE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE NOT GIANT, LARGE, MASSIVE AREAS THAT WE SEE IN OUR SUBURBAN STANDARDS.
I THINK THAT THIS PLAYS INTO THAT VERY WELL, AND IT'S GREAT TO GIVE OUR COMMUNITIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE, REINVEST, TO ADD VALUE TO THEIR COMMUNITIES.
ON BEHALF OF THE NEW HAVEN HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> NOT THAT I KNOW OF. [LAUGHTER] NO.
>> ANY COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? START WITH COMMISSIONER BLUM.
>> I THINK IT'S GREAT. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT IT SHOULD BE MORE NAVIGABLE AS YOU GO BETWEEN COMMUNITIES.
>> I THINK WE GO AHEAD WITH IT.
>> WELL, I THINK IT LOOKS REALLY NICE, AND IF THAT'S WHAT THE FOLKS WANT, THE RESIDENTS WANTS, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD LET THEM HAVE IT. LOOKS NICE.
>> THANKS. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON?
>> VERY GOOD. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE REQUEST?
>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE INCREASE IN THE TOTAL ALLOWABLE SIGN SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM FOUR FEET TO 20 SQUARE FEET.
>> COMMISSIONER THOMPSON INITIATES THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. COMMISSIONER KELSO.
>> ANY OPPOSE? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
PLANS ON STAFF UPDATE. THANKS, SCOTT.
[STAFF UPDATE]
>> YES. JUST A FEW ITEMS. AT THE NOVEMBER 19TH, COUNCIL MEETING, THE FLAGLER WHARF SPECIAL EXCEPTION SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED ON DECEMBER 17TH, THE CRA MASTER PLAN,
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2024 UPDATE WAS ALSO APPROVED, AND THE REZONING THAT YOU SAW FOR 1352 US HIGHWAY 1 WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE US HIGHWAY 1 CORRIDOR ZONING DISTRICT, MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL.ALSO OF SIGNIFICANT NOTE, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I'M DEEPLY SADDENED TO ANNOUNCE THE PASSING OF TWO KEY PLANNING PROFESSIONALS WHO SERVED HERE AT THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
SHE SERVED ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FROM 2001-2016 AND WAS THE CHAIR FROM 2008-2016.
SHE ALSO SERVED AS COMMISSIONER FOR THE JUPITER INLET DISTRICT FROM 2019-2021.
SHE WAS A RETIRED PLANNING PROFESSIONAL FROM THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND A STAUNCH ADVOCATE FOR THE HEALTH AND VIABILITY OF THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER.
I BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE REFERRED TO AS THE QUEEN OF LOXAHATCHEE, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
SHE WAS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH.
SHE PASSED THE BATON TO YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS TO COME FORWARD AND SERVE ON THE COMMISSION, AND YOU WILL BE GREATLY MISSED IN THE COMMUNITY.
HE WAS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR HERE AT THE TOWN OF JUPITER FROM 1994-2005.
HE WAS BROUGHT ON IN LARGE PART TO SHEPHERD THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT PROCESS, THE ABACOA DEVELOPMENT.
WHICH WAS A HUGE UNDERTAKING CONSIDERING A 2000 ACRE DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
FROM THAT TIME, WHILE HE SERVED HERE, THE POPULATION INCREASED BY ABOUT 50%, HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING FOR SAM, TOM BAIRD HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING FOR HIM AND WITH HIM, AND HE IS SADLY MISSED ALREADY BY MANY.
I JUST WANT TO PASS THAT ALONG TO THE COMMISSION AND THOSE WHO KNEW EITHER OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
>> THANKS, JOHN. I WORKED FOR HIM AS A PLANNER.
THEN I WORKED WITH HIM IN THE COUNTY WHEN HE WAS AN ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, AND I WAS A LAWYER AND WE DID THE PALM BEACH COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THEN SAM HAD A LITTLE HELP, BUT SAM GOT HIRED HERE BECAUSE WE WERE ON THE PRECIPICE OF ABACOA, AND THERE WAS NO BETTER PERSON IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAN SAM SHANNON TO TAKE A MASSIVE PROJECT THAT TRANSFORMED THE TOWN THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHICH HE DID AND WE WROTE A 100 PAGE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, I THINK IT WAS.
OR 104 CONDITIONS OR SOMETHING? AT LEAST. THAT'S WHAT I DID WHEN I WORKED FOR SAM WAS WE DID DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACT IN THE TREASURE COAST REGION.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IN ADDITION TO THAT, HE REALLY ELEVATED THE USE OF COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING AS A TOOL TO ACCOMPLISH COMMUNITY GOALS.
HE ALSO OVERSAW ALL OF THE PROCESS WITH BRINGING FORWARD THE CORRIDOR STUDY FOR US HIGHWAY 1 THAT RESULTED IN THE RIVER WALK THAT WE ENJOY TODAY.
HE WORKED TO PROTECT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN JUPITER, THE SHORES AND THOSE COMMUNITIES FROM A CORRIDOR GOING TO MARTIN COUNTY BEING DEVELOPED THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND DEFENDED THAT THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS THAT OVERSAW THOSE MATTERS AT THE TIME.
HE WAS JUST A VERY UPSTANDING HONORABLE PERSON, BUT MANY OF US HAVE VAST DEAL.
MINING PRACTICE AND GOOD ETHICS.
>> THANKS FOR THAT BACKGROUND.
NOT TO GO BACK TO THE MUNDANE, BUT WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THE FENCE ISSUE.
>> THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I HAD THAT ON MY LIST, AND IT DIDN'T MAKE MY FINAL CUT. THEY HAVE COMPLIED.
>> THEY REDUCED THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE AS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE PROCEEDINGS IN A VERY QUICK ORDER.
>> THEY DID WHAT? WHAT DID THEY DO?
>> THEY REDUCED THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE TO MEET THE CODE.
>> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN OR TOWN STAFF FOR YOUR WRAP UP?
>> ONE, AGAIN, THIS IS MUNDANE, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD RECEIVE THESE DOCUMENTS ELECTRONICALLY? I REALIZE SOME OF THEM ARE OVERSIZED, BUT THE IDEA OF PASSING PAPER AROUND IN 2025 JUST SEES ME A LITTLE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE COMPLETE, NISI SENDS
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AN EMAIL TO YOU ALL THAT INCLUDES THE LINK TO THE ELECTRONIC AGENDA.THAT'S ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE IF ANYBODY DOES NOT WANT TO RECEIVE THE PAPER COPIES, WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF HOW TO LOAD IT UP ON YOUR COMPUTER AND SUCH, IF YOU WANT TO BRING A DEVICE.
>> I WANT TO EXPLORE THAT. IT JUST SEEMS CRAZY THAT WE'RE STILL GETTING PAPER.
>> TO DO THAT TOTALLY ELECTRONICALLY FOR A WHILE, WORKS GREAT.
>> CAN WE [OVERLAPPING] NOT DO IT ON THESE LIKE THE COUNCIL AGENDAS?
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU CAN PULL UP, ACTUALLY, YES.
>> WOULD WE HAVE ENOUGH MONITORS THOUGH? ONE, TWO, THREE.
>> [BACKGROUND] THE ROOM WASN'T DESIGNED FOR THE SIZE.
>> WHO WANTS PAPER? [LAUGHTER]
>> WE USUALLY ALWAYS HAVE, SOME THAT WANT TO MAINTAIN THE PAPER.
WE'D BEEN MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT AND REDUCE THE DELIVERIES AND SUCH.
>> I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL ABOUT THAT LATER ON.
I CAN AVOID PAPER AND JUST GO ELECTRONIC.
>> WE CAN INQUIRE WITH YOU, ALL OF YOU, YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT? CONFIRM BEFORE THE NEXT AGENDA GOES OUT.
>> PROBABLY SAVE THE TOWN SOME MONEY.
MAYBE TO SAVE THE TOWN SOME MONEY WITH LARGER DOCUMENTS.
>> GREAT. BE MORE SUSTAINABLE.
>> JOHN, WHAT'S THE TOWN'S CODING ON AEDS LIKE THIS? WENDY'S HAVE TO HAVE AN AED?
>> I'M NOT SURE. I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
>> I KNOW WE'VE BEEN PUTTING THEM IN PARKS AND I'M WORKING TO GET ONE OVER AT JUPITER WHITEHOUSE AT THE BUILDING THAT THE TOWN OWNS, BUT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT, IS THERE A CERTAIN SIZE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR A RESTAURANT? IS IT WORTH LOOKING INTO? THEY WORK TREMENDOUSLY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] RESTAURANT SHOULD HAVE ONE.
>> THEN ONE LAST ITEM BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN CENTER FOR THE APARTMENTS.
YOU MAY RECALL MOST OF YOU, I THINK WE'RE HERE, SOLVE THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR SO AND DID NOT SUPPORT THE INCREASE IN THE DENSITY.
I WENT TO COUNCIL AND IT WAS DISCUSSED ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS.
THEY TABLED THE ISSUE AND ASKED TO SEE THE DETAILS OF THEIR SITE PLAN WHEN IT COMES BACK.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THAT.
WE'RE JUST ABOUT TO GIVE THEM COMMENTS ON THAT.
THAT'S WHY IT GOT PUSHED BACK.
THERE WAS A CHANCE IT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE JANUARY 21ST MEETING, BUT WE DID PUSH OUT SOME INFORMATION LAST FRIDAY THAT IT WOULD NOT BE ON THAT AGENDA.
IT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE ON FEBRUARY'S AGENDA, BUT WE WILL UPDATE THE FOLKS THAT HAVE INQUIRED IF IT SHOULD COME UP ON THAT AGENDA BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
THEN DEPENDING ON THE ACTIONS OF THE COUNCIL, IF THEY CHANGE THE CODE OR IF THEY DON'T CHANGE THE CODE, THEY MAY COME BACK WITH THEIR APPLICATION OR JUST REVISE THEIR APPLICATION EITHER MEET THE CURRENT CODE OR IF THEY GET THE INCREASE THEY'VE REQUESTED BRING FORWARD THE APPLICATION AND THEY'LL COME THROUGH THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
>> [BACKGROUND] JUST A COMMENT. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, JOHN FOR ALL YOU DO AND YOUR RESPONSIVENESS AND WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR TEAM, HOW THEY SUPPORT THE TOWN AND US, AND IT'S JUST REALLY GREAT AND CART.
VANESSA. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL PASS THAT ALONG TO STAFF AS WELL. [NOISE] APPRECIATE THAT.
>> THANKS, EVERYONE. WE'RE ADJOURNED.
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