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>> GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 P.M. AND I CALLED TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF TUESDAY, DECEMBER 17TH, OUR LAST TOWN COUNCIL MEETING IN 2024.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IF ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE ABLE WILL JOIN ME IN STANDING.
>> DEAR GOD, GRANT US WISDOM AS WE ARE FACED WITH MAKING MANY DECISIONS THAT AFFECT US AS A COM.
AMEN. LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
>> NOW WE MOVE TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS AND YOU'RE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IS ASKED TO STATE HIS/HER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PRIOR TO ADDRESS IN TOWN COUNCIL.
COUNCIL GENERALLY DOESN'T DISCUSS THE ITEMS DURING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING.
ANY ISSUES RAISED OR REFERRED TO STAFF FOR INVESTIGATION THE REPORT IS FORWARDED TO COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?
>> GOOD EVENING. LINDA MCDERMOTT, 107 CHADWICK DRIVE.
BEFORE I FORGET, I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY, THE TOWN COUNCIL, HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
TONIGHT, I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.
MIXED-USE PROPERTIES BRING A LOT OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES TOGETHER TO MAKE LIFE MORE CONVENIENT, BUT THEY ALSO PRESENT SOME PARKING CHALLENGES.
IN MANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND WITH REPAVING OF PARKING SPACES THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA, I NOTICED THAT PARKING SPACE SIZES ARE SHRINKING AND THERE ARE LESS AVAILABLE AS NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND MIXED-USE CORRIDORS GET APPROVED WITH INADEQUATE PARKING SPACES.
OFTEN SHARING SPACES, AND AT TIMES THIS RESULTS IN OVERFLOW PARKING INTO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AND OPEN SPACES.
MAKING PARKING SPOTS TOO SMALL CAN END UP CAUSING DINGS TO CARS AND PARKING OVER THE LINE.
NOT TO MENTION ISSUES GETTING IN AND OUT OF VEHICLES.
WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO PRESERVE OUR GREEN SPACES.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES OR RENOVATIONS, ESPECIALLY WITHIN MIXED-USE CORRIDORS, ALLOW FOR ADEQUATE PARKING AND ACTIVITIES DO NOT RESULT IN OVERFLOW PARKING THAT ENCROACHES ON OTHER PROPERTIES OR RESULTS IN TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES.
I URGE THAT COUNCIL AND DEVELOPERS TO ALWAYS CONSIDER THE IMPACT ON EXISTING COMMUNITIES WHO WERE THERE FIRST.
LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL AS WORKING WITH PROFESSIONALS FOR CREATING AND KEEPING JUPITER'S FOOTPRINT AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
I DO KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL ALWAYS MAKES A MENTION OF PARKING CONCERNS, BUT WITH SO MANY MORE DEVELOPMENTS AND REDEVELOPMENTS, IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE NOTICED AS I VISITED RELATIVES AND FRIENDS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY SEEM TO BE MAKING THESE SPACES SMALLER.
I'VE WITNESSED MOTHERS WITH THEIR KIDS IN THE CARRIERS TRYING TO GET IN THE CAR AND CAN'T GET IN ANYMORE BECAUSE THE SPACES ARE TOO NARROW.
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THIS JUST LATELY IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO BRING IT UP WITH SOME NEW DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON, OUR MIXED-USE CONCERNS THAT MANY RESIDENTS HAVE HAD OVER PARKING AS WELL.
ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING TO MIND.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO A LOT OF THE GREAT ACTIVITIES IN JUPITER FOR THE HOLIDAY, AND I WAS COMING OUT OF HARBORSIDE JUST BEFORE THE BOAT PARADE AND A LOT OF OFFICERS WERE OUT THERE DIRECTING TRAFFIC, WHICH I WAS VERY GLAD TO SEE.
BUT THEIR REFLECTIVE VESTS DID NOT REFLECT VERY WELL.
THOSE WHO HAD THE WANDS WERE OKAY, BUT THOSE WHO DID NOT HAVE THE WAND, THEY JUST DID NOT REFLECT WELL.
I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT.
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I DO KNOW FROM WORKING AT POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU CAN'T USE FABRIC SOFTENER. THANK YOU.>> NEXT, WE HAVE CHRIS ST. NICHOLAS. [LAUGHTER]
>> HO HO HO, EVERYBODY. [LAUGHTER] IT'S ST. NICHOLAS HERE.
HOW'S EVERYBODY TONIGHT. [LAUGHTER].
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, GIVE MY THREE MINUTES.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, TOWN COUNCILORS. HI, TOMMY.
[LAUGHTER] FRANKIE, HOW ARE YOU? I AM CHRIS ST. NICHOLAS, BETTER KNOWN AS SANTA CLAUS.
I HAD THE GREAT PLEASURE OF SPENDING SOME TIME WITH THE CONSCIENTIOUS HARDWORKING AND DEDICATING EMPLOYEES OF THIS WONDERFUL TOWN LAST WEEK.
AFTER MAKING MY LIST, CHECKING IT TWICE, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT EVERY SINGLE TOWN OF JUPITER EMPLOYEE ONCE AGAIN IS NOT NAUGHTY.
I KNOW THAT YOU FEEL THE SAME.
WHILE MAKING MY LIST, I DISCOVERED THAT YOU FIND FOLKS, WHILE BEING ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ALSO TOWN OF JUPITER EMPLOYEES.
I THOUGHT I'D TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY FINAL VISIT THIS YEAR TO JUPITER, AND SEE WHICH LIST YOU MAY BE ON.
I MAY AS WELL START AT THE TOP.
MAYOR KURETSKI, I REMEMBER YOU AS LITTLE JIMMY.
AS FAR BACK AS I CAN REMEMBER, YOU ALWAYS LOVED CHRISTMAS, AND WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY AND VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ANY PRESENT YOU RECEIVED.
I KNEW LONG AGO WOULD ESCALATE INTO ADULTHOOD.
YOUR CHRISTMAS SPIRIT IS UNIQUELY DISPLAYED EACH HOLIDAY SEASON WITH A WONDERFUL LIGHTING DISPLAY AT YOUR HOME.
YOU HAVE BEEN AN INSTITUTION WHILE SERVING 23 YEARS ON THE TOWN COUNCIL.
YOUR VISION AND TRANSPARENCY HAS NOT GONE UNNOTICED.
THIS YEAR WAS A MILESTONE YEAR FOR YOU AS YOU RETIRED FROM YOUR CAREER AS AN ENGINEER WITH THE ELECTRIC COMPANY.
CONGRATULATIONS, LITTLE JIMMY.
ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU MALISE.
EVER SINCE YOU WERE A LITTLE GIRL, YOUR SMILE HAS BEEN INFECTIOUS.
PEOPLE ALWAYS SEEM HAPPY TO BE IN YOUR PRESENCE.
YOUR COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.
YOU HAVE BEEN TO MANY PLACES, BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC WITH THE SOLE INTENT OF HELPING PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE.
WHETHER IT BE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES AFTER NATURAL DISASTERS OR PERHAPS SOMEONE WHO HAD A DREAM OF OWNING AND OPERATING THEIR OWN SMALL BUSINESS.
EVERYWHERE YOU TURNED, YOU WERE HELPING PEOPLE AND PLACES IMPROVE.
YOUR SELFLESS ACTS CONTINUE TODAY, ALWAYS STRIVING FOR A BETTER JUPITER. I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
COUNCILOR DELANEY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, YOU ARE ALWAYS ON THE QUIET SIDE.
HOWEVER, ALWAYS A GOOD LISTENER, PLAYING STRICT AND CLOSE ATTENTION TO DETAILS.
THAT SEEMS TO BE HOW YOUR JUPITER POLITICAL CAREER STARTED.
ELECTED IN 2016, YOU DIDN'T COME IN NINE MILES AN HOUR WITH YOUR HAIR ON FIRE.
YOU OBSERVED THE PROCESS, LISTENED, GATHERED THE INFORMATION, AND THEN PROCEEDED TO ADDRESS THEM PROFESSIONALLY.
TODAY, YOU STILL STICK TO THAT SMART AND WISE APPROACH.
YOU CONTINUE TO PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF JUPITER.
ONE THING THAT DID CATCH MY EYE, I SEE YOU HAVE A NICE NEW WHITE PICKUP TRUCK.
PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY.
WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE DOGCATCHER.
[LAUGHTER] COUNCILOR MAY, CAM MAY DO THIS, CAM MAY DO THAT.
WHATEVER CAM MAY SEEMS TO DO, YOU DO IT EXTREMELY WELL.
ALL OF YOUR LIFE, YOU HAVE DEDICATED YOURSELF TO THE WELL-BEING OF OTHERS.
YOU ALWAYS PUT EVERYONE ELSE FIRST AND PROACTIVELY STRIVE TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE AND OUT OF HARM'S WAY.
YOU STARTED THIS LIFE JOURNEY AS A YOUNG HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT.
LIFE GUARDING THOUSANDS OF YOUNG CHILDREN DURING THE SUMMER BREAK.
AFTER GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL YOU BECAME A PALM BEACH COUNTY LIFEGUARD FOLLOWING YOUR DAD'S FOOTSTEPS.
JUST TO SPEED THINGS UP HERE, YOUR PASSION LED YOU TO GRADUATE FROM THE FIRE ACADEMY, FLORIDA STATE, AS WELL AS THE PARAMEDIC SCHOOL AT PALM BEACH STATE, ACHIEVING YOUR DREAM JOB AS A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC.
YOU BRING THOSE SAME VALUES AND PASSION TO THE COUNCIL.
I ALSO THANK YOU FOR YOUR IDEA OF RESTORING THE HOLIDAY LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE TOWN THREE YEARS AGO.
IT LOOKS GREAT. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
YOU ARE ALSO A SUPERB TOWN COUNCILOR, JUPITER IS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE YOU.
LAST AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, COUNCILOR FORE.
HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT THINKER, AND HE HAS A KEEN EAR AND LIKE MOST ENGINEERS THINKS THINGS THROUGH BEFORE SHARING HIS KNOWLEDGE ON A SUBJECT AS HE STRIVES TO BE CORRECT AND ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.
ANDY'S SHARP MIND AND ABILITY TO EXPLAIN THINGS FOR ALL TO UNDERSTAND IS UNCANNY.
FILLING A VACANCY IS NO EASY TASK.
IT DIDN'T TAKE ANDY LONG TO BLEND IN AND PROVIDE GREAT INPUT TO EACH AND EVERY TEAM ON THE TOWN COUNCIL OR THE CRA MEETING AGENDA.
APPOINTING ANDY WAS A SMART AND WISE DECISION.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE DECIDED NOT TO SEEK COLLECTION.
THANKS FOR A JOB WELL DONE, AND A SHORT BUT VALUABLE TIME AS A MEMBER TO COUNCIL, YOU SURELY WILL BE MISSED.
AS ALL OF YOU HAVE JUST HEARD AND CAN CLEARLY SEE, THIS FINE GROUP OF FIVE INDIVIDUALS ALL WALKED DOWN FIVE DIFFERENT PATHS.
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HOWEVER, ALL FIVE OF YOU CAME TOGETHER WITH ONE GOAL IN MIND.TO KEEP JUPITER A VERY DESIRABLE PLACE TO SETTLE DOWN, A GREAT PLACE TO WORK, A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY, AND A GREAT PLACE TO RETIRE, A GREAT PLACE FOR FUN, ALL WITH THE BEST INTERESTS OF EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT IN MIND.
ON BEHALF OF THE EMPLOYEES, THEY HAVE ASKED ME TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THEIR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE AND THE VALUE THEY PROVIDE TO OUR RESIDENTS EACH AND EVERY DAY.
THEY ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR THEM TO PROVIDE THE EVER SO IMPORTANT LIFE WORK BALANCE.
NOW FINALLY, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADO, THE MOMENT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR, I AM PLEASED TO INFORM YOU THAT ALL FIVE JUPITER TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE MADE SANTA'S NICE LIST.
YOU'VE ALL EARNED IT. CONGRATULATIONS. HO HO HO, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. [APPLAUSE]
>> THANK YOU, SANTA. CAN WE ASK ONE QUESTION AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT, BUT FOR ALL THE KIDS OUT THERE, CAN YOU TELL US THE HOUR ON CHRISTMAS DAY MORNING THAT YOU MAY BE FLYING OVER JUPITER?
>> IT'S VERY NICE AND COOL AT THAT TIME.
>> MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY. [APPLAUSE]
>> HEY, SANTA, REAL QUICK. YOU WANT TO COME BACK? CAN WE GET A PICTURE WITH SANTA UP FRONT? COUNCIL MEMBERS?
>> YOU'RE ALL IN THIS BOOK YOU KNOW. [LAUGHTER].
>> YOU WANT TO SEE MY NAME ON IT? [LAUGHTER]
>> I THINK LEWIS WANTS YOU UP FRONT.
>> SANTA IS ON OZEMPIC. [LAUGHTER].
[APPLAUSE] [INAUDIBLE] [MUSIC] [LAUGHTER]
>> FOR ANYONE WONDERING THAT WAS OUR TOWN ATTORNEY'S TIE.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY MORE CITIZEN COMMENTS?
>> THAT WAS THE MOST DELIGHTFUL SPEAKER TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
[1. December 3, 2024 Town Council Meeting Minutes.]
COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEFORE US THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 3RD TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.I DON'T SEE ANY CORRECTIONS ON THE DAIS.
IF THERE ARE NONE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THIS IS ITEMS 2-13.IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?
>> IS THERE ANY MEMBER ON THE DAIS WISHES TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?
>> SEEING NONE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE HAVE TWO ORDINANCES, ONE OF WHICH IS QUASI-JUDICIAL ON THE ORDINANCE 1324, SECOND READING ON THE REZONING.
DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES?
>> HEARING NONE. IT ASKS THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ THE TWO ORDINANCES ON SHORT TITLE.
>> ORDINANCE 1324, AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE TOWN'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.34 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1352 SOUTH US HIGHWAY 1 FROM COMMERCIAL OFFICE TO THE US HIGHWAY 1 INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY CORRIDOR DISTRICT, MIXED-USE RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF LAWS IN CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ORDINANCE 32.4, AND ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 15, ARTICLE 4 PERTAINING TO THE POLICE OFFICERS RETIREMENT FUND, PROVIDING FOR THE AMENDMENT OF DIVISION 3, SECTION 15380, ENTITLED INTERNAL REVENUE CODE COMPLIANCE TO PROVIDE FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE SETTING EVERY COMMUNITY UP FOR RETIREMENT ENHANCEMENT 2.0 ACT, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF LAWS IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SAVORABILITY, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
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ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[14. Ordinance 31-24, First Reading, Ritz Carlton - Quasi Judicial - Amendment to an approved 284± acre Planned Unit Development (PUD) on Lot 30 of Pod B, located at 502 Bald Eagle Drive. (Second Reading 1/21/25)]
MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.THE FIRST ITEM IS ORDINANCE 3124, FIRST READING.
DOES ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES?
>> WITH THAT, I'D ASK THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE APPLICANT OR WITNESSES OF ANY PARTY THAT WILL BE PROVIDING TESTIMONY TO BE STAND AND TO BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.
>> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS HEARING IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> THE ARGUMENT WILL BEGIN FIRST, PRESENTATION LIMITED TO 10 MINUTES AND IF YOU DON'T USE ALL 15 MINUTES, YOU MAY RESERVE REMAINING TIME FOR CLOSING ARGUMENT OR A REBUTTAL.
>> THANK YOU AND I'M JAMES STURGIS WITH ARCHITECT STURGIS, HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNERS FOR 502 BALD EAGLE AND RITZ-CARLTON PUD NOW KNOWN AS TRUMP NATIONAL PUD.
I'M HERE TO REQUEST AN AMENDMENT TO THE RITZ-CARLTON GOLF CLUB AND PUD TO ALLOW FOR A GUEST COTTAGE AT THE RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 502 BALD EAGLE DRIVE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED PUD B OF THE RITZ-CARLTON PUD DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED GUEST COTTAGE IS LOCATED ABOVE AN EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE WITH A PROPOSED ADDITION.
THE PROPERTY IS IN POD B, AS MENTIONED, IN THE UPPER LEFT, THE ACTUAL SITE LOT 30 IS IN THE LOWER LEFT OF POD B.
I BELIEVE IT'S 168 PLUS OR MINUS HOMES IN TOTAL.
THE ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL R-1, FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL R-1.
THE PROPERTY IN DISCUSSION HERE IS 0.60 ACRES.
>> THIS IS THE POD B ENLARGE ROTATED 90 DEGREES TO THE RIGHT, AND THE UPPER LEFT IS LOT 30.
IN THE HISTORY BETWEEN 1994-2005, COTTAGES WERE PERMITTED TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AS AN ACCESSORY USE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
HOWEVER, THIS WAS ABANDONED AFTER THEIR COMPLAINTS OF GUEST COTTAGES THAT WERE BEING USED FOR RENTAL UNITS.
THE SURROUNDING PUDS BEAR'S CLUB TO THE EAST OF THE RITZ-CARLTON PUD, ADMIRALS COVE, PUD TO THE NORTH HAVE PROVISIONS WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS THAT ALLOW FOR DETACHED GARAGE GUEST COTTAGES.
THE RITZ-CARLTON ALSO ALLOWED TWO PREVIOUS WAIVERS AND POD B, B AND 1 LOT 15A AT THE NORTH END OF THE POD B, AND THE OTHER ONE BEING POD A, LOTS 1 AND 2, WHICH IS SOUTH OF THE POD B.
THE DEFINITION OF A GUEST COTTAGE.
LIVING QUARTERS WITHIN A DETACHED ACCESSORY BUILDING LOCATED ON THE SAME PREMISES AS THE MAIN BUILDING TO BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR HOUSING MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY OCCUPYING THE MAIN BUILDING OR THEIR NON-PAYING GUESTS, SUCH QUARTERS HAVING NO KITCHEN FACILITIES AND NOT TO BE RENTED OR OTHERWISE USED AS A SEPARATE DWELLING.
ALSO, GUEST COTTAGES ARE TO BE INCIDENTAL AND SUBORDINATE TO THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING ON THE LOT.
THEY'RE NOT TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING PRINCIPAL DWELLING, THEY'RE NOT TO EXCEED 35% OF THE GROSS AREA OF THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING, NOR ARE THEY TO EXCEED 35% OF THE OVERALL LOT COVERAGE.
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THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER IS THE EXISTING DETACHED TWO CAR GARAGE, AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE GARAGE FOR TWO ADDITIONAL BAYS, AND THE GUEST COTTAGE WILL BE ON TOP OF THE GARAGE.THIS IS THE UPPER LEVEL OF IT.
IT'S GOT A COVERED BALCONY AND A BATHROOM AND A SMALL CLOSET.
THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 758 SQUARE FEET, IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PROPOSED GUEST COTTAGE.
THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE HAS 3,897 SQUARE FEET, CONDITION ON THE FIRST FLOOR, 03,718 CONDITION ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WITH PORCHES, AND THE ATTACHED ENCLOSED GARAGE.
THERE'S A TOTAL OF 8,143 SQUARE FEET.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
THE GUEST COTTAGE STRUCTURE HAS A TOTAL OF 1,814 SQUARE FEET, 528 OF THE EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE WITH AN EXPANSION FOR AN ADDITIONAL 528 SQUARE FEET FOR THE PROPOSED GARAGE AND 758 SQUARE FEET FOR THE PROPOSED GUEST COTTAGE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
THE TOTAL OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 22% OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE.
THIS IS AN ELEVATION OF THE FRONT.
ON THE LOWER LEFT WITH THE GABLE ROOF AND THE PAIR OF WINDOWS IS BASICALLY THE PROFILE OF THE EXISTING GARAGE.
WE'RE JUST EXTENDING THAT SAME PROFILE OUT FURTHER TOWARD THE STREET.
THEN THE GUEST COTTAGE SITS UP ON TOP OF IT TUCKED IN WITHIN THAT EXISTING ONE-STORY ROOF.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SECOND STORY OF THE GUEST COTTAGE, THE PEAK OF IS ABOUT EVEN WITH THE EVE OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE ROOF AND SO IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT EIGHT FEET LOWER THAN THE MAIN STRUCTURE, SO IT IS DEFINITELY SUBORDINATE.
THE WAIVER REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF DWELLING UNIT, THAT BEING THE GUEST COTTAGE.
IT CURRENTLY ONLY ALLOWS FOR ONE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND THE OWNER PROPOSES A GUEST COTTAGE.
THIS HISTORICAL PRECEDENCE WITHIN THIS PUD EXISTS IN POD B ON LOT 15A AND ON POD A, LOT 1 AND 2.
AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR GRANTING THE WAIVER TO THE PUD, THE OWNER PROPOSES TO DONATE TO THE TOWN TO BE USED TOWARD FUNDING UPGRADES TO THE TOWN PARKS, SUCH AS INCORPORATION SLASH PADS, $10,000.
AS A REFERENCE, THE PREVIOUS WAIVER REQUESTS IN THIS PUD DONATED $10,000 FOR THAT WAS IN POD A IN 2023, AND THEN $7,500 IN 2009, WHICH WAS THE LOT 15 AND POD B.
CONCLUSION. THE REQUEST IS PROPOSING A PUD AMENDMENT TO THE RITZ-CARLTON GOLF CLUB AND SPA TO ALLOW A GUEST COTTAGE ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED 502 BALD EAGLE DRIVE, LOT 50 POD B.
THE WAIVER IS LIMITED TO THIS ONE USE, THIS ONE LOT, LOT 50.
WE DID RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM THE TRUMP NATIONAL ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.
AGAIN, SIMILAR REQUESTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN POD A AND POD B.
THE OWNER WILL PROVIDE PUBLIC BENEFIT TO AID AND UPGRADING OF THE TOWN PARKS, SUCH AS SPLASH PAD, AND THE OWNER ACKNOWLEDGES THE PREVIOUS STAFF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THAT'S BASICALLY MY PRESENTATION.
>> I'D ASK THE STAFF TO PRESENT ITS REPORT.
>> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, PETER MEYER, SENIOR PLANNER STAFF.
THE APPLICATION FOR CONSERVATION TONIGHT IS A FIRST READING OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE RITZ-CARLTON PUD TO ALLOW A GUEST COTTAGE ON LOT 30 WITHIN POD B.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER FOR THE UNIT TYPE AND THE R1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW A GUEST COTTAGE AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE PRIMARY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT.
THE APP IS PROPOSING TO DONATE $10,000 TO THE TOWN TO BE USED TOWARDS FUNDING, UPGRADES TO TOWN PARKS, SUCH AS THE INCORPORATION OF SPLASH PADS.
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IT'S A STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF THE TOWN TO COMPLETE THE RECREATIONAL MASTER PLAN TO INCLUDE CURRENT FACILITIES, FUTURE PLAN FACILITIES, AND PARTNER FACILITIES, AND OPPORTUNITIES.THE RECREATIONAL MASTER PLAN INCLUDES PROVIDING SPLASH PADS.
IF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS NOT FOUND TO BE SUFFICIENT, A CONDITION WAS FOUND TO BE SUFFICIENT, A CONDITION HAS BEEN ADDED TO REQUIRE THE OWNER CONTRIBUTE TO $10,000 TO BE PLACED IN A TOWN FUND FOR UPGRADES TO TOWN PARKS.
IF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS NOT FOUND TO BE SUFFICIENT, THEN STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED OTHER PUBLIC BENEFITS ON PAGE 5 OF ATTACHMENT 2, WHICH IS, IT'S IN THE TOWN'S STRATEGIC PRIORITY TO UPDATE THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS OF EXISTING PRESERVATION AREAS AND GOLF COURSES TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ORDERS APPROVED BY A TOWN COUNCIL.
I WON'T GO OVER THAT HERE, I WENT OVER IT.
ON NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED APPLICATION WITH STAFF RECOMMENDED ADDITIONS.
THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT TO THE PUD WILL BE COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN CODE, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONS IN ORDINANCE 31-24, AND CONTINGENT UPON A TOWN COUNCIL APPROVING THE PROPOSED PUBLIC BENEFIT AND WAIVER REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. THANKS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT?
FOR BOTH OF YOU, I GUESS, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE THE APPLICANT FIRST.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE WALKWAY BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE HOUSE? IS IT COVERED?
>> YES. LET ME GET BACK THERE.
AGAIN, THE MAIN HOUSE IS THE PINK COLOR AND THE BEIGE AND THE LOWER RIGHT IS THE GARAGE.
THERE'S A 3.5 FOOT HIGH GARDEN WALL THAT EXISTS, BUT NO, IT IS TOTALLY DETACHED.
>> DID YOU CONSIDER ENCLOSING IT, MAKING AN AIR CONDITIONED SPACE CONTINUOUS?
>> YEAH. THAT'S THE MASTER BEDROOM SIDE OF THE HOUSE, SO IT WOULD HAVE NOWHERE THAT MADE SENSE TO COME INTO THE MAIN HOUSE.
>> THE WALKWAY FROM THE GARAGE COMES INTO THE MASTER BEDROOM?
>> THE WALKWAY AS IT EXISTS NOW, THE GARDEN WALL PROTECTS.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE MASTER BATH IS ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
THAT AREA THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE GARAGE AND BEHIND THAT WALL IS ACTUALLY OFF THE FRONT OF THE MASTER BATH.
>> BUT THE STAIRS MUST BE GOING TO A FAIRLY MAIN ENTRANCE, I WOULD THINK.
THERE'S A GATE ADJACENT TO THE GARAGE THAT GOES UP AN EXTERIOR SET OF STAIRS ONTO THE PORCH AND THEN INTO THE BONUS ROOM.
>> APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY FEET IS THE WALKWAY?
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES?
THE GARAGE IS LIKE 24 FEET, SO IT'S LIKE 20 FEET PLUS OR MINUS.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE YOU.
STAFF, PLEASE, PETER, THANK YOU.
WAS A ANALYSIS DONE TO SEE IF THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT?
>> I'M NOT SURE YOUR QUESTION.
>> FOR THE BUILDING CODE, SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT REQUIRES THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO BE COMPLETELY BROUGHT UP TO CODE.
>> FOR PLANNING AND ZONING IS NOT WHAT OUR CODE, MAY BE A BUILDING QUESTION FOR THEM, NOT FOR PLAN AND ZONING.
>> IS ANYBODY HERE FROM BUILDING? THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP, I GUESS SPECIFICALLY IS I'M A CONTRACTOR AND ENGINEER IN THE TOWN, AS YOU KNOW.
I CREATED A STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE THERE WAS A APARTMENT ABOVE THE GARAGE, GUEST COTTAGE.
WE AIR-CONDITIONED A WALKWAY SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO AND ELIMINATED THE NEED FOR A SPECIAL WAIVER BY DOING THAT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS CONSIDERED AND IF, NO, WHY NOT?
>> AS I MENTIONED, IT'S ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
IT'S THE MASTER BEDROOM, MASTER BATH SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THERE JUST REALLY WASN'T A PRACTICAL WAY TO ATTACH AN AIR CONDITIONING.
IT WOULD GENERATE PROBABLY 20*120,
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SO YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY A COUPLE 100 SQUARE FEET OF COVERED WALKWAY OR CONDITIONED CORRIDOR, IF YOU WILL, JUST TO GET IT LINKED TO THE MAIN COMPONENT OF THE HOUSE.>> IT WAS LOOKED AT, BUT IT JUST WASN'T PRACTICAL.
>> ARE WE AT ALL CONCERNED THAT WE'RE SETTING THE PRECEDENTS NOW? IS ANYBODY THAT ASKED FOR THIS? ARE WE GOING TO BE ASKED TO APPROVE IT? NOW THAT TWO HAVE DONE IT.
NOW THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD FROM NOW ON, WE JUST GIVEN.
>> IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND SO TO COUNCIL TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE IT'S A WAIVER.
>> CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE HISTORY? THE REASON GIVEN FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS CODE WAS SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T RENT THESE SPACES.
IS THAT YOUR INTERPRETATION OF HOW THIS CAME INTO FRUITION? WHAT'S THE NEXUS OF THAT ORIGINAL CODE?
>> THE CODE DOESN'T LIST A GUEST COTTAGE AS PART OF THE USES PERMITTED IN R1.
>> BUT WHAT WAS THE GENERATION OF THIS? WELL, IT WAS ALLOWED BEFORE THERE WAS A DAY.
COULD YOU PUT THAT SLIDE BACK UP WHERE IT WAS ALLOWED BEFORE A CERTAIN DAY, THEN WE ENACTED CODE TO STOP IT.
THE REASON THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE APPLICANT WAS THERE WERE GUEST COTTAGES THAT WERE BEING RENTED OUT.
>> YES, AND THERE, INITIALLY, WAS A POLICY OVER 20 YEARS AGO THAT ALLOWED THEM.
THEN WHAT WAS OCCURRING WAS WE WERE HAVING HOUSING ISSUES IN SOME OF THE CHARTER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE CONTINUALLY HAD CODE VIOLATIONS WITH.
IT BECAME DIFFICULT FOR THE TOWN TO NOT ALLOW THEM IN THE CHARTER NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEN ALLOW THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THE BEAR'S CLUB OR ADMIRALS COVE OR AN ABACOA.
THE POLICY WAS BASED ON THE ISSUES THAT WERE OCCURRING WAS CHANGED IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY.
THE CODE SAYS, WHAT ACCESSORY USES ARE PERMITTED IN EACH OF THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
THOSE DIFFERENT PUDS SUCH AS ADMIRALS COVE AND THE BEAR'S CLUB, AND EVEN LOCKA YACHT CLUB HAVE COME BACK AND REQUESTED WAIVERS FOR THE ENTIRE PUD TO ALLOW THEM INDIVIDUALLY FOR THEIR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE RITZ-CARLTON HAS OPTED TO PROPOSE THEM INDIVIDUALLY ON EACH LOT.
EVERY TIME SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO ONE, THEY COME BACK AND THEY ADDRESSED IT INDIVIDUALLY.
IT WAS THE CHOICE OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO DO IT THAT WAY.
>> THE FUTURE REQUEST WILL PROBABLY PRETTY MUCH AUTOMATICALLY BE GRANTED, I GUESS?
>> WELL, YEAH, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHERS, AND IT'S BASED ON PUBLIC BENEFIT IF THE COUNCIL FINDS THAT THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS APPROPRIATE.
THAT'S HOW ALL OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WAIVERS ARE ADDRESSED, IS THERE ADEQUATE PUBLIC BENEFIT IN ORDER TO SUBSTANTIATE THE REQUEST?
ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS?
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE SOUTH SIDE IS AN OPEN AREA, THE SIDE WHERE THE EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE EXISTS AND THE PROPOSED GUEST HOUSE IS.
THE NORTH SIDE IS A FAIRLY LARGE AREA AND ACTUALLY THAT WAS THE OTHER REASON TOO.
YOU CAN SEE IT MAKES A WEDGE IN THE BACK AND SO IT LEAVES ALL OF THAT GREEN SPACE OPEN SO IT DOESN'T INTRUDE ON THE NEIGHBOR.
>> WHEN ENCROACHING ON SETBACKS ON OTHER EXISTING PROPERTY LINES SOMETIMES ISSUES, HOUSES GETTING CLOSE TO OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY, BUT THERE WAS NO ISSUES WITH THAT, NO COMPLAINTS?
>> NO, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE AREA WHERE THIS IS GOING IS A COMMON AREA IN THE SOUTH SIDE.
>> I'M GRATEFUL FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET THIS ON THE RECORD.
THERE WAS A QUESTION OR RECOMMENDATION POSED BY STAFF, POTENTIALLY AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS FOR THE PRESERVATION AREAS AND GOLF COURSES.
I THINK YOU WERE RUNNING INTO TROUBLE IN TERMS OF WHO OWNS IT OR MANAGES THAT JURISDICTION.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT BRIEFLY?
>> CORRECT. WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED WITH TOWN STAFF, THE THINKING WAS THAT IT WAS PART OF THE POA PROPERTY, BUT IT IS NOT.
IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE GOLF CLUB PROPERTY.
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THE GOLF CLUB IS A COMPLEX ENTITY.IT'S GOT 15 TRUSTEES THAT ARE CREATING AN ENTITY, INCLUDING SOME BANKS AND OTHER COMPLEXITIES THAT THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO GET TO ANYBODY TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT APPROVED.
>> JUST WANT TO STAFF, FOLLOWING UP ON COUNCIL.
>> AT THIS PHASE OF EVERY PROJECT, AN APPLICATION HASN'T GONE OR THE PLANS HAVEN'T YET GONE, THIS IS FOR THE STAFF, HAVEN'T YET GONE TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I IMAGINE IF EVER IN WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS ARE THE BUILDING CODE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL IDENTIFY, CORRECT?
>> THEN IF IN FACT IT EVER DID AFFECT THE SITE PLAN THEN I GUESS IT WOULD COME BACK, CORRECT? OR YOU WOULD AT LEAST BECOME AWARE OF THAT?
>> IF IT AFFECTED THE SITE PLAN MAYBE A SMALLER STRUCTURE, MAYBE YOU WANT ME SEE THE SITE PLAN, BUT IF THE WAIVERS FOR THE GUEST COTTAGE IN GENERAL NOT ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THOSE CONDITIONS OF THE BEING SUBORDINATE AND TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE, YOU MAY NOT SEE IT AGAIN IF IT JUST MAYBE HAD TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE GUEST COTTAGE TO MAKE THE BUILDING COUNT.
>> I UNDERSTAND. MY POINT IS TO THE POINT THAT COUNCIL FORE TALKED ABOUT HAVING SOME EXPERIENCE THAT THAT COULD PROVE TO BE AN ISSUE.
I'M JUST SAYING WE WOULD NEVER DEAL WITH THAT NOW BECAUSE IT HASN'T YET GONE TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
BUT WHEN THAT COMES UP BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAD STUFF ALL THE TIME PROBABLY MOST OF IT'S INTERIOR.
BUT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND IF IT AFFECTED THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION THEN IT WOULD COME BACK.
STAFF WOULD DO IT AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE, CORRECT?
>> I'LL ADD AN EXAMPLE ON ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE DID IN THERE, WE ACTUALLY ENCLOSED SOME SPACE ABOVE THE ATTACHED GARAGE AND IT USED THE MAIN STAIR OFF FROM THE EXISTING HOUSE.
BUT WHEN IT CAME IN FOR BUILDING PERMIT, ACTUALLY WENT TO STAFF FOR PLANNING AND ZONING THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY ACTUALLY CALLED ME WITH A QUESTION TO CONFIRM THAT IT WAS ACCESS FROM THE MAIN HOUSE.
EVERY TIME IT GOES IN FOR BUILDING PERMIT IT DOES GET PASSED THROUGH STAFF FOR THEIR REVIEW AND THEY'RE PRETTY COGNIZANT ABOUT LOOKING INTO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. OPEN THE FLOOR TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> I SEE NONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY PARTY HAVE ANY REBUTTAL OR CLOSING REMARKS. DO YOU HAVE ANY?
>> THEN WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO BEGIN DELIBERATION.
I'LL START AT THE OTHER END, JUST TO TRY TO ROTATE COUNCIL MAY, ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD BEGINNING THE DELIBERATION?
>> NOTHING, REALLY. I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT PROPOSAL TO ADD $10,000 FOR OUR PARKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE A 6, 0 VOTE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SO IT'S HARD TO GO AGAINST THAT.
>> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRECEDENTS WE'RE SETTING.
WHO GETS TO HAVE ONE AND WHO DOESN'T, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH SAYING EVERYBODY GETS TO HAVE ONE IF THEY REQUEST IT.
I SEE NO CRITERION WHICH OTHER THAN SETBACK VIOLATIONS OR SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE BRINGING UP, MAYOR, BUT OTHERWISE, IT'S GOING TO BE EVERYBODY WHO WANTS ONE, GETS ONE.
MAYBE INSTEAD OF WASTING OUR TIME HEARING FUTURE ONES WE SHOULD JUST ACCEPT A BLANKET PUD TO ALLOW GUEST COTTAGES.
I THINK WE WERE TOLD THAT SOME OF THE PUD HAVE THAT BUT THEY DIDN'T REQUEST IT SPECIFICALLY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS PIECEMEAL? I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
>> NO, AND I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT YOUR COMMENTS.
I JUST OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL AND MYSELF I WOULD NEVER WANT TO AGREE THAT THIS MEANS THAT WE CAN'T DENY OR CHANGE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, THE WAY THE FACTS ARE, IS THAT IF THE, WAS CALLED A PUD WANTED TO COME IN AND HAVE A BLANKET THEN WE'D BE DEALING WITH AS A BLANKET.
THE PUBLIC BENEFIT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
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THIS PUD DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT.THERE HAD BEEN TWO OTHERS DONE.
THE FACTS I THINK BEFORE US TONIGHT OR THIS IS SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE.
AS OUR PREROGATIVE I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS WE WOULD AGREE AND SUPPORT IT.
BUT IF, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS A WAVE OF APPLICATIONS IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
THEN, QUITE FRANKLY, WE WOULD HAVE A BASIS TO ASK THE PUD TO COME IN AND LET'S AMEND THE PUD AND TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT PUBLIC BENEFITS.
I THINK JUST I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S FOR ALL WE KNOW, THIS IS THE LAST ONE FOR MANY YEARS GIVEN THAT BUT I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T AGREE WE'RE SETTING ANY PRECEDENT.
IT'S BASED ON THE FACTS BEFORE US AND WHAT THEY ASK IS, BECAUSE WE REALIZE HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE TO GO BACK TO THE PUD TO ASK THEM TO STEP UP AND DO THINGS WHEN IT'S JUST ONE.
>> THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO IT AT ALL EITHER.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY THOUGH THERE IS AN ALTERNATE TO THAT THAT YOU COULD HAVE AIR CONDITIONED SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO.
>> NO. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING, I THINK IT MAY WELL BE THAT THAT COMES OUT IN THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS BUT THEN THEY'LL DISCOVER THAT THEN, RIGHT?
>> RIGHT. THAT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE AREA FOR THAT TO BE PULLED OUT OF. I GET IT.
>> THE CONTEXT MAY BE DIFFERENT FOR EACH OF THESE AS WELL.
COUNCILOR DELANEY'S QUESTION IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORS AND SETBACKS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED BEFORE THOSE CAN BE DIFFERENT WITH EACH APPLICATION AND YOU GET A SECOND SET OF EYES LOOKING AT EACH ONE OF THEM AS WELL.
>> CLEARLY WHAT THE NEIGHBOR IS SAYING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THEY'LL NEVER RENT THE SPACE OUT SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THOSE ARE BASICALLY MY CONCERNS WITH THE OVERALL PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
>> EVEN THE PICTURE LEFT UP ON THE SCREEN SHOWS THE GARAGE IS FACING NOBODY.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT WON'T BOTHER ANYBODY.
>> COUNCIL FORE, WAS YOUR ISSUE, IF THE PUD, YOU'D PREFER THEM HAVING A BLANKET, A WAIVER SYSTEM WHERE IT WOULD JUST BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY OR IT WOULDN'T COME TO COUNCIL?
>> IF NEED BE. IF THE PUD ALLOWED GUEST COTTAGES THEN I THINK IT WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF OUR TIME. I DON'T KNOW.
YOU WERE ALL SPECULATING HOW MANY OF THESE ARE GOING TO COME DOWN LIKE A PARACHUTE.
MAYOR SAID MAYBE TWO YEARS BUT THEN AGAIN MAYBE IN TWO MONTHS.
JUST FROM A HOUSEKEEPING STANDPOINT DO WE WANT TO KEEP DOING THESE PIECE MEALS AND DO WE NEED THAT CONTROL? I THINK THE PUD PROBABLY IS IN THE BEST POSITION TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO ALLOW AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
>> I WAS SPECULATING IN THE FUTURE I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PAST.
>> HOW LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE WE'VE DONE IT?
>> I'M JUST SAYING THEY PRESENTED HERE FROM OUR STAFF IS HOW OFTEN THIS HAS HAPPENED?
>> '23 WAS THE LAST ONE. IT WAS 2009-'23.
>> BEFORE THAT. WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE A WAIVE, BUT IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN WE THEN COULD DEAL WITH IT.
>> TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. THOSE WERE MY CONCERNS.
>> WITH THAT I'LL TAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON ORDINANCE 3124.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 3124 AND FIRST READING?
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I'D ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ AN ORDINANCE 3124 ON A SHORT TITLE.
>> AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF TOWN PER ORDER APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE RITZ CARLTON PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROVIDING FOR A WAIVER TO THE UNIT TYPE IN THE ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW GUEST COTTAGE AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE PRIMARY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT ON LOT 30 OF PLAN B AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[15. Resolution 126-24, Approving the Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) Plan 2024 Update.]
RESOLUTION 12-624, APPROVING THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PLAN 2024 UPDATE.FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANT MAY WIND UP SAYING THIS BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, THIS PLAN, ALL OF US ON COUNCIL HAD MET MULTIPLE TIMES WITH STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANT, AND AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT.
WE JUST APPROVED IT AT THE CRA, WHICH IS SUBORDINATE TO THE COUNCIL.
YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT US TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS BECAUSE NOW WITH THE CRA APPROVING IT, WHICH WAS US IT COMES HERE AND THE TOWN HAS TO APPROVE IT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
WE'RE NOT LIKELY TO HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
>> STEPHANIE THORBURN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING, HAPPY TO BE HERE.
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THIS IS THE FINAL 2024 CRA PLAN UPDATE.YOU SAW IT TWO WEEKS AGO, MAYOR, AND IT IS A STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF THE TOWN COUNCIL AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY WITH YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT IT WILL BE COMPLETED AND IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR AND A HALF SINCE I WAS LAST HERE, ACTUALLY IN THE OTHER BUILDING, BUT WE CAME AND DID A ROUNDTABLE IN FEBRUARY OF 2023 AND THAT'S WHEN WE GOT GOOD INPUT AND REALIZED WE NEEDED SOME HELP.
WITH THAT, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE KIM DELANEY FROM TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND SHE'S GOING TO BE GIVING YOU THE PRESENTATION, A SHORTENED VERSION OF WHAT YOU SAW, IF YOU WANT, FROM THE DECEMBER 3RD MEETING. THANK YOU.
>> THANKS. GOOD EVENING. KIM DELANEY FOR THE RECORD FROM TREASURE COAST RPC.
THANK YOU FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK YET AGAIN TO COVER THE CRA PLAN UPDATE FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL.
I CAN TAKE A HIGH LEVEL VIEW THROUGH THE PRESENTATION IF YOU'D LIKE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC OR YOU AS A BOARD CAN DECIDE THAT MATERIAL WAS SUFFICIENTLY PRESENTED AT YOUR LAST WORKSHOP SO COMPLETELY AVAILABLE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD TO COVER ANY ASPECT OF THE PLAN THAT YOU'D LIKE?
>> WE COULD GO THROUGH IT AS A HIGH LEVEL.
AGAIN, WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT.
>> SUPER HAPPY TO. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF DISCUSSIONS BY THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC ON THE PLAN UPDATE, AND THE PLAN, OF COURSE, IS AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD.
WITH THAT, THE JUPITER CRA OR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2002.
IT INITIALLY HAD A BOUNDARY OF ABOUT 397 ACRES.
IT WAS EXPANDED BY ABOUT TWO ACRES TO ITS CURRENT SIZE OF 399 ACRES.
THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN ILLUSTRATES THE BOUNDARY OF THE CRA.
MOST OF THE PROPERTY IS UPLAND, ABOUT 252 ACRES WITH ABOUT 147 ACRES OF SUBMERGED LANDS AS WELL.
THE CRA HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY SUCCESSFUL.
IN FACT, ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL CRAS BOTH IN THE STATE AND REGION, THE MIGHTY POWER OF A SMALL AGENCY IS REALLY REMARKABLE.
THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES SOME OF THE NOTABLE CRA SUCCESSES THAT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, THE RIVERWALK, ENVIRONMENTAL LAND RESTORATION, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, PUBLIC PARKING AVAILABLE IN LOVE STREET, AND STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AGAIN, A SUMMARY OF THE CRA SUCCESSES ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CRA PLAN AS WELL AS IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS THAT LEAD TO TONIGHT'S HEARING.
COUPLE OF IMAGES JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THOSE TYPES OF SUCCESSES.
THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE KNOW AND LOVE ABOUT THE TOWN OF JUPITER ARE REALLY REPRESENTED I THINK SO WELL WITHIN THE CRA DISTRICT.
THE RIVERWALK, ENVIRONMENTAL LAND, RESTORATION BOTH UPLAND AND SUBMERGED LANDS AND DESTINATION QUALITY ENHANCED IN THE DISTRICT WHICH HAVE RESULTED IN TREMENDOUS PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE WHICH IS PART OF THE INTENT OF A REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO BEGIN WITH.
WITH RESPECT TO SCHEDULE WE'VE BEEN UNDERWAY WITH THE TOWN FOR ABOUT THE PAST 15 MONTHS OR SO.
THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE LEADING UP TO TONIGHT'S ADOPTION.
THE CRA BOARD MET MOST RECENTLY TWO WEEKS AGO AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PLAN TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
THAT SOUNDS AWKWARD FOR THE PUBLIC BUT LOGISTICALLY THE CRA BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING THE PLAN AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION SYMBOLICALLY, ACTUALLY, TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
THE TOWN COUNCIL IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRA PLANS ADOPTION AND ULTIMATELY FOR THE CRA PLANS IMPLEMENTATION.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ALONG THE JOURNEY AND THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS WITH THE CRA BOARD, AN OPEN PUBLIC WORKSHOP BACK IN APRIL IN THIS ROOM.
THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIVE OUTREACH IN THE FORM OF INTERVIEWS AND FOCUS GROUPS TO GET INPUT AND HELP REFINE THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN.
THE PLAN WAS ALSO DISTRIBUTED TO YOUR PARTNER AGENCIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
THERE'S BEEN NO SUBSTANTIVE FEEDBACK RECEIVED BACK FROM THOSE ENTITIES AND SO THERE IS NO COUNTER RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM ANY OTHER ENTITY THUS FAR IN THE PROCESS.
TONIGHT'S ACTION, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, IS CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION NUMBER 126-24, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ADOPTION OF THE PLAN AND THEN ULTIMATELY ITS IMPLEMENTATION.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NOTED REVISIONS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING ALONG THE JOURNEY THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE CRA BOARD WORKSHOP BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
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THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE PLAN DOCUMENT AS WELL AS THE LAST SET OF REVISIONS SUGGESTED BY THE CRA BOARD, WHICH IS JUST NOTING THAT LAND COSTS AREN'T INCLUDED AS PART OF THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS IN THE TAIL END, AND I HAVE A SLIDE TO ILLUSTRATE THAT.THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CRA PLAN.
THE PLAN IS REORGANIZED TO ACT AS A TOOLBOX AND SO THOSE PROJECTS ARE FAIRLY SITE SPECIFIC BUT THERE IS SOME LATITUDE AND THE PROGRAMS CAN BE IMPLEMENTED ON ANY PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT THE BOARD DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SUBSTANTIAL REVISIONS TO THE DOCUMENT THAT HAD BEEN IMPLEMENTED ACTUALLY INCLUDING TONIGHT, BUT UNTIL THIS UPDATE IS ADOPTED.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THE CRA HAS COMPLETED AND SO THOSE ARE TAKEN OUT AS PROJECTS FOR THE CRA TO INVEST IN.
THEN THE ONE PARTICULAR POLICY CHANGE IS THE REMOVAL OF PARKING GARAGE AS A FUNDING ITEM BY THE CRA.
NOTHING IN THE PLAN SUGGESTS THE PRIVATE SECTOR CANNOT PROVIDE A PARKING GARAGE IF IT MEETS ALL THE ZONING CRITERIA BUT THERE'S NO LONGER A PARKING GARAGE INCLUDED AS A CAPITAL ITEM FOR THE CRA AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
THIS MAP ILLUSTRATES THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS WITHIN THE CRA BOUNDARY.
I KNOW THOSE NUMBERS ARE VERY SMALL BUT AGAIN ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FOR REVIEW BY THE PUBLIC AND THOSE PROJECTS INCLUDE AN ARRAY OF ENVIRONMENTAL, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, PUBLIC WATERFRONT ACCESS, BUT THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LAND ACQUISITION IDENTIFIED, ALTHOUGH THE BOARD RETAINS THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT THAT AS PART OF ITS PROGRAMS. THE PLAN INCLUDES A NEW WATERFRONT ACCESS AND AMENITIES MAP WHICH IS ILLUSTRATED ON THIS SLIDE AND THE PROCESS HAS GIVEN THE TOWN STAFF A CHANCE TO REALLY ASSEMBLE A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
THE PLAN EXISTS AS ARCHIVAL DOCUMENT TO IDENTIFY THOSE SITES THAT HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED AND HOW THEY CAN BE USED FOR PUBLIC ACCESS, PARTICULARLY IN PUBLIC PARKS AS WELL.
TWO SITES IN PARTICULAR JUST TO NOTE AMONG THOSE THAT INVENTORY OF RESOURCES ARE THE PIATT PLACE PROPERTY AND THE INLET VILLAGE MARINA PROPERTY.
THOSE TWO LOCATIONS ARE ANTICIPATED TO SEE MORE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT OVER TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE EARLIER IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT STAGE.
THEY'RE JUST CALLED OUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS.
IN THE LAST WORKSHOP THE SUGGESTION TO ADD A NEW PROGRAM WAS IMPLEMENTED INTO THIS PLAN UPDATE WHICH IS TO ADD LAUNCHES FOR PERSONAL WATERCRAFT.
THERE ARE SOME LOCATIONS WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW LAUNCHES FOR KAYAKS, CANOES, PADDLE BOARDS, AND SMALLER NON-MOTORIZED WATERCRAFT.
ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES ARE REALLY A HALLMARK OF THE DISTRICT OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY MAKE IT A DESIRABLE PLACE FOR INVESTMENT AND AN ASPECT OF THE DISTRICT THAT REALLY CONTRIBUTES TO PROPERTY VALUE AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE PLAN HAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CRA TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN THE ARENA OF ENHANCING, RESTORING, AND IMPROVING ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE DISTRICT BOTH UPLAND AND SUBMERGED AS WELL.
>> THE RIVERWALK, OF COURSE, IS ONE OF THE MOST NOTED FEATURES IN THE CRA, AND THE CRA HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN REALLY TAKING THE RIVERWALK FROM AN IDEA FROM ITS GENESIS THROUGH ITS IMPLEMENTATION TO DATE.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL RIVERWALK INVESTMENT NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE SYSTEM, AND THAT'S ALL IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE PROGRAMS FOR THE CRA TO INVEST IN GOING FORWARD EITHER DIRECTLY OR WITH ITS PARTNERS, THE TOWN AND OTHER PARTNERS.
THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IS ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THE CRA DISTRICT THAT REALLY ADDS TO ITS DESIRABILITY FROM AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT AND FUNCTIONALITY.
THE PLAN INCLUDES A WHOLE SERIES OF COMPLETE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS FROM SOUP TO NUTS, FROM ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS TO BIKE SHARING, TO TRANSIT, TO WATER TAXIS, TO RIDE SHARING, EV CHARGING LOCATIONS.
IT REALLY IS FORWARD THINKING AND IDENTIFYING THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENTS THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CRA.
REALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS POSITION THE CRA TO BE ITS MOST EFFECTIVE IN BRINGING DOWN GRANT DOLLARS FROM OTHERS TO REALLY LEVERAGE CRA AND TOWN RESOURCES TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS HAPPEN TO THE EXTENT OF ITS ABILITY WITH OTHER DOLLARS FROM OTHER ENTITIES.
PARKING IS A VERY POPULAR TOPIC.
IN FACT, ONE OF YOUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE DISTRICT AND THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE CREATED FOR PARKING.
THIS MAP ILLUSTRATES THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE PARKING IS EITHER PROVIDED BY THE CRA OR TOWN DIRECTLY OR HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR PROVIDES PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC USE.
THIS MAP SERVES JUST AS AN ARCHIVAL DOCUMENT,
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AS WELL AS A PLANNING TOOL FOR THE CRA TO CONSIDER HOW TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE PARKING AND ACCESS TO DESTINATIONS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.CULTURAL AND HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE ANOTHER HALLMARK OF THE DISTRICT.
THE TOWN, IN FACT, HAS, I THINK IT IS THE OLDEST SITE IDENTIFIED, NOT JUST IN THE REGION, BUT ONE OF THE OLDEST SITES IN THE STATE OF DOCUMENTED HUMAN HISTORY.
THE PLAN ALLOWS THE CRA TO INVEST IN THE ACQUISITION, RESTORATION, AND ENHANCEMENT OF CULTURAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES WITH A CONSIDERABLE LATITUDE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THOSE SITES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE DISTRICT AND THE BENEFIT OF THE TOWN.
FINALLY, COMMUNITY POLICING AND MARINE NAVIGATION ASSISTANCE ARE IDENTIFIED AS PROGRAMS FOR THE CRA TO INVEST IN, TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF THE DISTRICT, ITS DESIRABILITY FOR INVESTORS AND ACCESS IN THE WATERWAYS, WHICH AGAIN, ARE HALLMARKS OF THE SUCCESSFUL DESTINATION FOR INVESTMENT THAT THE CRA DISTRICT REPRESENTS.
WITH THAT, THERE'S JUST TWO SLIDES ON REVENUES.
THE FIRST ONE TOUCHES ON TAXABLE VALUES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
THIS CRA, LIKE MOST CRAS IN FLORIDA, IS FUNDED THROUGH TAX INCREMENT FINANCING OR TIF.
TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IS A FINANCING MECHANISM ONLY AVAILABLE TO CRAS IN FLORIDA, AND IT ALLOWS AN AGENCY A CRA TO BOUND THE VALUES IN A BEGINNING YEAR.
THEN EVERY YEAR THEREAFTER, THE TAXES ON THE BASE VALUE CONTINUE TO GO TO THE CITY AND COUNTY OR THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY, BUT THE TAXES ON THE INCREMENT ARE REDIRECTED INTO A REDEVELOPMENT TRUST FUND THAT CAN BE ONLY SPENT ON PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS IN AN ADOPTED CRA PLAN WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CRA.
THAT'S WHY THE PLAN UPDATE IS SO IMPORTANT TO REALLY CLEARLY COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC WHERE THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE INVESTED AND IN WHAT FORM.
THIS CHART ILLUSTRATES THE TREND OF TOTAL TAXABLE VALUES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
IN YEAR 1, THE TAXABLE VALUE TOTALED ABOUT $167 MILLION.
IN THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR THAT WE'RE IN THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE DISTRICT IS AROUND 717 MILLION, SO A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE.
THE PROJECTION LONG TERM THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE AGENCY IS THE VALUES WILL APPROACH ABOUT $1 BILLION IN TOTAL VALUE, WHICH IS ABOUT A 500% INCREASE IN VALUE.
AGAIN, A REMARKABLE ACCOMPLISHMENT, ESPECIALLY FOR A SMALL DISTRICT, AND I REALLY STAND OUT BOTH IN THE REGION AND THE STATE.
WITH THAT, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REVENUE THEN FOLLOWS THE TREND OF TAXABLE VALUE INCREASE.
THIS CHART ILLUSTRATES THE TOWN'S SHARE OF TAX REVENUE OF TIF REVENUE, WHICH IS IN THE BOTTOM ON THE GREEN BARS, AND THEN THE TOP PART OF THOSE BARS IN THE BLUE IS THE COUNTY INCREMENT.
THAT'S THE REAL ADVANTAGE FOR HAVING A CRA TIF OFTEN, WHICH IS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE TOWN DOLLARS AND SECURE COUNTY DOLLARS THAT TYPICALLY EXCEED LOCAL TAX DOLLARS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT EFFORT.
FOR THIS AGENCY, THE FIRST YEAR OF TIF WAS ABOUT $290,000.
THE CURRENT CRA TIF IS ABOUT 3.8 MILLION, WHICH IS A $3.1 MILLION INCREASE IN THAT TIME FRAME.
AT THE CRA SUNSET IN 2034, THE EXPECTATION IS ABOUT 5.5 MILLION IN TIF REVENUE.
WITH THOSE REVENUE DOLLARS, THE PLAN INCLUDES A TABLE OF THE POTENTIAL COSTS OF WHAT WOULD BE CRA FUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THAT TRACKS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.
THE NEXT TWO SLIDES SUMMARIZE THE RANGE OF COSTS THAT ARE REASONABLY ANTICIPATED WITH RESPECT TO THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THIS DOES NOT LIMIT THE TYPE OF INVESTMENT THE CRA MAY MAKE.
IT JUST ILLUSTRATES THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE CANDIDATES AS TO BEST ESTIMATED COSTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
THIS AREA WOULD BE FULLY EXPECTED TO FUND OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND PROGRAMS AS WELL AS PART OF ITS IMPLEMENTATION.
THAT SAID, THIS SLIDE AND THE NEXT SLIDE DO SUMMARIZE THE RANGE OF CAPITAL COSTS.
CLEARLY, IF YOU SUM THESE UP, IT'S MORE THAN THE TIF REVENUE THAT'S EXPECTED AND THIS AREA WOULD BE FULLY EXPECTED TO SECURE GRANT DOLLARS AND LEVERAGE ITS DOLLARS WITH OTHERS TO IMPLEMENT BOTH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THE PROGRAMS THAT IT ANTICIPATES IT WILL UNDERTAKE.
AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC, A SUMMARY OF THOSE CAPITAL COSTS.
WITH THAT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY OF THE BOARD.
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND STAFF FOR THE EFFORT.
I THINK I'M JUST REPEATING WHAT ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY HAD SAID AT THE END OF THE CRA MEETING.
WE'RE TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY IN.
WE HAVE LESS THAN A DECADE TO GO.
IT WAS A GREAT PROCESS THAT WAS LED BY YOU AND STAFF TO GET PUBLIC INPUT, TO GET OUR INPUT, AND WE MEMORIALIZED WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED.
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WE ARE FORWARD LOOKING, RECOGNIZING THAT IT TAKES AN OPPORTUNITY HAS TO STEP UP.BUT WE'RE POISED WITH THIS PLAN TO MOVE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE INVESTING THE FUNDS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
AS WE ALL HAD SAID BEFORE AND COLLECTIVELY, THANK YOU.
WITH THAT, I'D ASK IF MY COLLEAGUES DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER THING TO ADD TO THAT, IF I SUMMARIZE CORRECTLY, THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ON RESOLUTION 126-24.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MOVING ON TO A ROUNDTABLE WE HAVE ON DISCUSSION OF
[16. Discussion of the JTAA partnership and relationship objectives, goals and plans.]
THE JTAA PARTNERSHIP AND RELATIONSHIP OBJECTIVES, GOALS, AND PLANS.>> I'M JUST PULLING UP MY PRESENTATION HERE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
FOR THE RECORD, I'M KRISTIN GEORGE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION HERE AT THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE IN NEED OF SOME DIRECTION REGARDING ONE OF THE TOWNS STRATEGIC PRIORITIES THAT RELATES TO THE RELATIONSHIP AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE JUPITER TEQUESTA ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, OR JTAA.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT EVERYONE THAT'S SITTING BEFORE ME HAS OR AT SOME POINT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT IN THEIR LIVES BASED ON THE WORK THAT IS DONE BY THE JUPITER TEQUESTA ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED NUMEROUS ATHLETIC PROGRAMS TO THE YOUTH IN JUPITER AND OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES FOR OVER 60 YEARS.
THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN HAS BEEN ESSENTIAL BECAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY DO, THAT WOULD BE A TASK THAT IS TAKEN ON BY THE TOWN WITH A VERY LARGE STAFF AND A VERY LARGE BUDGET TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY DO, WHICH AS A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION IS TREMENDOUS.
WE WANTED TO START THIS EVENING BY JUST REMINDING YOU ABOUT THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
I ALSO WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH EACH OF YOU ONE ON ONE IN YOUR MEETINGS WITH THE TOWN MANAGER BACK IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL 4.
BUT WE DID SEND OUT AFTER THAT MEETING THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION THAT WAS REVIEWED DURING THOSE ONE ON ONES, AS WELL AS SOME QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THAT CAME UP AS A RESULT OF THAT PRESENTATION.
MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT BRIEF.
I'LL MOVE THROUGH THE SLIDES RELATIVELY QUICKLY, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, FEEL FREE TO STOP AND ASK OR IF WE CAN WAIT TILL THE END, WHICHEVER IS YOUR PREFERENCE.
BUT TONIGHT, THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE SPEAKING TO, IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE LAST TWO THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE RELATED TO ATHLETIC FACILITY USAGE.
THAT IS TO DEFINE AND OUTLINE WHAT OUR PARTNERSHIP IS WITH JTAA GOING FORWARD, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE RELATIONSHIP GOALS, AND WHAT DOES THE PICTURE LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD WITH JTAA.
THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE NEEDING, AND THIS IS A SLIDE THAT I'LL SHOW AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN BE CIRCLE AROUND TO IT AT THE END AS WELL, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ABSORB IT ALL RIGHT NOW.
BUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET SOME DIRECTION ON, AND A REMINDER THAT THE TOWN AND JTAA HAVE BEEN OPERATING WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE SINCE THE LAST AGREEMENT EXPIRED IN JANUARY OF 2021.
FOR TONIGHT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS I'M GOING TO DISCUSS THE HISTORICAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE ALLOWED JTAA TO LEVERAGE THE TOWN'S USE OF MULTIPLE SCHOOL FACILITIES AT NO COST TO JTAA.
I'LL ALSO REMIND YOU ABOUT THE PROCESS AND POLICY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT'S STILL IN A DRAFT MODE RELATED TO THE ALLOCATION OF FIELDS AND ATHLETIC FACILITIES.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE ACTUAL USAGE OF THE FACILITY BY ALL OF OUR USER GROUPS IN THE TOWN, JTAA BEING ONE OF THE LARGEST OF THOSE USER GROUPS.
I ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO ASK FOR YOUR DIRECTION ON WHAT TYPE OF INVESTMENTS THE TOWN AND JTAA SHOULD CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR RELATIONSHIP.
JUST A BRIEF HISTORY ABOUT THE AGREEMENTS.
AGAIN, OUR RELATIONSHIP DATES BACK TO THE MID '60S.
WE'VE HAD VARIOUS RESOLUTIONS AND AGREEMENTS IN PLACE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS SINCE 1980.
THE MOST NOTABLE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO COME AS A RESULT OF THIS THAT YOU NEED TO BE UNDERSTANDING AND MADE AWARE OF IS THAT IN QUOTATIONS IN NOVEMBER 27, 1991, THAT WAS THE FIRST ACTUAL AGREEMENT THAT RECOGNIZED JTAA AS THE MAJOR YOUTH SPORTS PROVIDER FOR THE TOWN GIVING PRIORITY STATUS AS TO USAGE OF ALL TOWN PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
THAT STATEMENT COMES DIRECTLY FROM THAT AGREEMENT.
IN 1996, A NEW 15 YEAR AGREEMENT WAS PUT INTO PLACE.
IN THAT AGREEMENT, IT SPOKE TO THE TOWN PROVIDING $15,000 TO JTAA ANNUALLY TO PUT TOWARDS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE TOWN'S PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
THEN IN 2011, THE LAST OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE IN PLACE WAS A 10-YEAR AGREEMENT
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THAT IDENTIFIED JTAA AS THE USE SPORTS PROVIDER FOR THE GREATER TOWN, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF JUPITER, JUPITER FARMS, AND THEN OUR SURROUNDING AND ADJACENT COMMUNITIES AROUND US LIKE TEQUESTA AND JUNO BEACH.THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE DID NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN TRAVEL PROGRAMS AND RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
AGAIN, THERE'S NO CURRENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND JTAA, BUT BOTH SIDES HAVE BEEN WORKING IN GOOD FAITH TO ENSURE THAT THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED DESPITE THE FACT OF NO AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT WE HAVE UTILIZED SEVERAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR USE OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOLS HERE IN JUPITER, AND THERE WERE SOME COSTS INVOLVED WITH THAT, AND NOT FOR JTAA BUT THE TOWN'S CONTRIBUTION IN ORDER TO LEVERAGE SPACE FOR JTAA TO UTILIZE MOST NOTABLY THEIR INDOOR GYMNASIUMS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
THE THREE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAD WERE WITH JUPITER COMMUNITY HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT DATED BACK TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STADIUM AND FIELD, TRACK AND FIELD LOCATION OVER THERE AT THAT FACILITY, THE TOWN CONTRIBUTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TOWARDS THAT PROJECT.
THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ALLOWED THE TOWN TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FACILITIES, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL TO HAVE ACCESS TO TOWN ATHLETIC FACILITIES.
THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO THE GYMNASIUMS AND THAT WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT THE TOWN SIGNED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AT A CONTRIBUTION LEVEL OF $195,000 OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS THAT WENT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND A SMALLER PORTION WENT TO EACH OF THE SCHOOLS EACH YEAR FOR THAT.
WHAT WE THOUGHT THOSE FUNDS WERE GOING TO BE USED FOR, WHICH WAS REPAIRS AND RESTORATION OF THE FACILITIES.
WE'VE ACTUALLY FOUND OUT AFTER THE FACT THAT THOSE WERE CONSIDERED DISCRETIONARY FUNDS BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THOSE DOLLARS WERE NOT ACTUALLY PUT INTO REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE THAT GOES ALONG WITH FACILITIES SPECIFICALLY WITH INDOOR GYMNASIUMS, IT'S WOOD FLOORING RESTORATION ANNUALLY AND BACKSTOP MAINTENANCE OF BASKETBALL COURTS, ETC.
BUT SINCE THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE EXPIRED, MUCH LIKE WE WORK WITH JTAA, THE TOWN AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL PROVIDING FACILITIES TO EACH OTHER WHILE WE WORK TOWARDS A NEW AND IMPROVED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
WE'RE IN THE STAGES RIGHT NOW WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF DISCUSSING A DRAFT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT GOING FORWARD FOR USAGE OF ALL SCHOOLS AND TOWN FACILITIES AS WELL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO STATE SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THIS STRATEGIC PRIORITY DOES SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE COMP PLAN.
OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN OBJECTIVE 2.1 DOES OUTLINE THAT THE TOWN SHOULD SUPPORT EFFORTS AND WORK CLOSELY WITH VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY PROVIDE RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS. ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO JTAA, THEY ARE ONE ORGANIZATION IN PLACE THAT DOES PROVIDE A NUMBER OF RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR US, SO WE HAVE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH THEM.
THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THAT THE TOWN SHOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES, PARKS AND RECREATION, MUNICIPALITY SERVICES AND FACILITIES SO THAT WE CAN INTEGRATE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF JUPITER, RESIDENTS THAT COME FROM THOSE AREAS AND THEN THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
WE DO HAVE A CURRENT FACILITY ALLOCATION PROCESS, WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN'S PARKS AND RECREATION WEBSITE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE POLICY AND PROCESS ITSELF.
WE WILL BE HAVING A SEPARATE ROUNDTABLE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO DISCUSS THAT ALONG WITH SOME POTENTIAL FEE STRUCTURES TO PUT IN PLACE, BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT PROCESS WE DO NOW FOR FACILITIES, TOWN RUN PROGRAMS DO COME FIRST.
WE DO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FACILITIES HAVE OUR SPECIAL EVENTS.
OUR CAMPS, OUR YOUTH AND ADULTS PROGRAMS ARE PROGRAMMED INTO THEM.
AFTER THOSE HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED IN, WE DO WORK WITH JTAA AS THE RECREATIONAL SPORTS PROVIDER TO MAKE SURE THAT RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS GET WHAT THEY ARE NEEDING.
THAT IS BECAUSE RECREATIONAL SPORTS, THEY DON'T REQUIRE ANY TRYOUTS.
EVERY CHILD GETS TO PARTICIPATE.
IT'S NOT AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THE RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS ARE BASICALLY THE BASIS FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS GROWING UP HERE IN JUPITER.
THAT DOES TAKE PRIORITY AFTER A TOWN PROGRAMS. NEXT STEP COMES SCHOOL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS.
IF THERE'S SPACE THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL NEEDS TO PRACTICE OUT AT JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK, WE DO PUT THE SCHOOL BOARD INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS NEXT IN PLACE.
LASTLY, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A PROCESS FOR TRAVEL AND COMPETITIVE PROGRAMS TO BE ALLOCATED ANY LEFTOVER SPACE THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE AFTER THOSE OTHER THREE ARE ALLOCATED.
THE HIGH LEVEL PART OF THAT IS THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR FACILITY ALLOCATIONS.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE MAP THAT I'VE PROVIDED THAT WE DO A BENCHMARK THAT WE SHOOT FOR IS TO HAVE OVER 50% OF TEAM ROSTERS AND TEAM ORGANIZATIONS AT 50% ABOVE INCORPORATED TOWN OF JUPITER, AND THEN ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT WOULD BE 20% OUTSIDE OF INCORPORATED OR THE GREATER JUPITER AREA.
THE GREATER JUPITER AREA DOES INCLUDE JUPITER FARMS,
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SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES LIKE TEQUESTA, AND JUNO BEACH AS WELL.THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES JUST SHOW THE OVERALL PARTICIPATION LEVEL OF JTAA OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH REC SPORTS AND ALSO WITH TRAVEL SPORTS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO MEETING THOSE PERCENTAGES, BUT MIGHT BE SOME WORK TO BE DONE, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AT OUR NEXT ROUNDTABLE.
THIS NEXT SLIDE DOES TALK ABOUT OUR ANNUAL PARTICIPATION AND USE OF ALL OF THE TOWN'S ATHLETIC FACILITIES BASED ON USER GROUPS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TWO LARGEST USER GROUPS ARE TOWN PROGRAMS, AND THEN JTAA RECREATIONAL SPORTS.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE OUTSIDE ATHLETIC FIELD USAGE, THE TRAVEL SPORTS DO SEE A VERY LARGE PORTION OF THE HOURS AVAILABLE THAT THEY UTILIZE FOR TRAVEL PROGRAMS AS WELL.
THIS IS PROGRAMS OUTSIDE OF DAILY MAINTENANCE, WHICH TYPICALLY TAKES PLACE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 07:00 A.M UNTIL 3:00 P.M.
THESE ARE ANY PROGRAMS THAT TAKE PLACE AFTER AND OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS.
>> I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TOWN'S INVESTMENTS AND WHAT DOLLARS WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING TOWARDS AND CONTINUE TO PUT TOWARDS JTAA'S EFFORTS.
AS ONE OF THE LARGER USER GROUPS, LIKE I SAID, THEY DO TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME WITHIN OUR FACILITIES, AND WE PUT FORTH THE DOLLARS AND THE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FACILITIES ARE TOP NOTCH FOR THEM.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE TOWN PROVIDES FACILITIES AT NO COST FOR EITHER RECREATIONAL OR TRAVEL PROGRAMS, AND THAT'S BOTH FOR JTAA AND OTHER EXTERNAL GROUPS THAT ARE USING OUR FACILITIES.
WE SPOKE A LITTLE EARLIER ABOUT THE ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION OF 15,000 TO JTAA.
THAT WAS IN THE EARLY YEARS OF AGREEMENTS.
IT HAPPENED FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS AND THEN IN 2007, THE TOWN NO LONGER WAS CONTRIBUTING TO THAT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
WE DID FUND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT BACK IN 2016-'21.
THERE'S ALSO ONGOING DAILY MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES THROUGH OUR CIP AND OPERATING BUDGETS, WHICH I'VE OUTLINED IN THIS GRAPH HERE AND DAILY MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITIES AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE JUST FROM FISCAL YEAR '22-'25, THE TOTAL COST AND TOTAL INVESTMENT THAT THE TOWN PUTS INTO OUR FACILITIES IS QUITE REMARKABLE.
THOSE ARE THE SPECIFIC FUNDS THAT ARE PUT TOWARDS FACILITIES THAT IMPACT JTAA DIRECTLY.
IT'S IMPORTANT ALSO TO NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN PROCESS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
THE TOWN IS GOING TO BE PREPARING TO SEE WHAT DOLLARS WE WANT TO COMMIT TOWARDS THE PROJECTS THAT RAISE TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL THROUGH THAT MASTER PLANNING PROCESS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALSO THE JTAA CONTRIBUTIONS, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, IF THEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY DID, THEN THE TOWN WOULD BE HAVING TO BE ABSORBING ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY DO LIKE RECRUITING VOLUNTEERS, BACKGROUND CHECKS, MAKING SURE THAT COACHES ARE ALL CPR AND AED TRAINED.
THAT TAKES A TEAM AND THE TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS FOR JTAA ACCOMPLISHES THAT.
THEY ARE THEIR OWN 501(C)(3) ORGANIZATION WITH AN EXECUTIVE BOARD THAT MANAGES THEIR OWN FINANCIAL INVESTMENTS AND THEIR OWN STAFF.
THEY DO HAVE USER FEES THAT PROVIDE REVENUE TO FUND PROGRAM EXPENSES.
THEY ARE A VOLUNTEER BASED ORGANIZATION THAT MANAGES APPROXIMATELY 6,000 PARTICIPANTS ANNUALLY IN ALL OF THEIR PROGRAMS, BOTH TRAVEL AND RECREATION.
THEY DO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES THROUGH COMMUNITY SPONSORSHIPS AND FUND RAISING.
AGAIN, WITHOUT JTAA THE TOWN WOULD BE AT A LOSS, ESSENTIALLY.
AGAIN, I'M CIRCLING BACK ON OUR LAST SLIDE HERE ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT'S NEEDED AND I'M HOPING THAT THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS NOW THAT WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE TODAY'S INFORMATION, BUT I'LL LEAVE THIS SLIDE UP.
DIRECTION THAT WE'RE SEEKING IS, SHOULD THERE BE A FORMAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND JTAA, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SHOULD IT BE THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION? SHOULD IT BE A FORMAL AGREEMENT? HOW SHOULD THE TOWN BE INVOLVED IN THE USE OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT FACILITIES? SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE THAT SPACE ON BEHALF OF JTAA, AND THAT PROCESS DOES TAKE A LOT OF STAFF RESOURCES FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
JUST TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS RIGHT NOW, WHEN JTAA REQUESTS SPACE FROM A SPECIFIC SCHOOL, THEY HAVE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST TO ONE OF OUR TOWN RECREATION SUPERVISORS? IT STOPS THERE. WE FILL OUT A FORM, WE SEND IT TO THE SPECIFIC SCHOOL THAT THE REQUEST IS BEING SENT FOR? THE SCHOOL THEN HAS TO REVIEW AND SIGN OFF ON IT.
THE SCHOOL THEN SENDS IT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD WHERE THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS TO REVIEW IT AND ASSIGN ANY COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THEN IT COMES BACK AGAIN THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE SCHOOL TO THE TOWN AND THEN TO JTAA, WHICH IS EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING.
IT CAN SOMETIMES TAKE TWO MONTHS TO ALLOCATE OR TO REQUEST EVEN AND RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.
OTHER THINGS WE WANTED TO CONSIDER FOR YOUR FEEDBACK IS WHAT BALANCE SHOULD BE APPLIED TO VARIOUS USER GROUPS OF TOWN FACILITIES.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THERE'S MULTIPLE USER GROUPS. ARE WE WELL BALANCED? ARE WE OFFERING ENOUGH PROGRAMS IN THAT SPACE FOR JTAA AS WELL AS OUR SENIOR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS, ADULT ATHLETICS, AND VARIOUS REC AND TRAVEL ORGANIZATIONS?
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LASTLY, AGAIN, WHAT INVESTMENT SHOULD THE TOWN MAKE AND WHAT INVESTMENT SHOULD JTAA MAKE GOING FORWARD? AGAIN, I'LL LEAVE THIS SLIDE UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, I CAN HAPPILY ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.THIS IS A DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL ALSO.
>> I WANT TO MAKE A FEW OBSERVATIONS TO KICK THIS OFF AND THEN YOU CAN WEIGH IN IF ANYTHING I'M SAYING IS NOT CORRECT.
WHAT OCCURS TO ME WHEN WE GOT THIS, AND AGAIN, AS YOU INDICATED, YOU MET WITH EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY, WE ALSO ASKED QUESTIONS, AND HERE WE ARE TONIGHT COALESCE ABOUT SOME DIRECTION HERE.
REALLY, WE'VE HAD THIS JTAA PARTNERSHIP FOR 60 YEARS, AS YOU INDICATED.
BUT DURING THOSE 60 YEARS, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS, YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT AS A CRITICISM, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE THINK ABOUT THIS.
TWENTY YEARS AGO, WE HAD HEALTHY PARKS AND RECS AND PARK FEES, AND WE HAD HEALTHY OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS AS WE WERE BUILDING OUT OUR FACILITIES.
NEVER OCCURRED TO US UNDER THAT SCENARIO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME FEES TO PAY FOR THIS.
BUT EVEN THEN, JTAA DID PROVIDE SOME THINGS IN THE WAY OF UPGRADES, BUT THEY HAVEN'T IN MANY YEARS.
NOW, YOU FAST FORWARD IS THERE IS NO MORE FORESEEABLE IMPACT FEES.
THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH BUILT OUT.
HERE WE ARE EMBARKING UPON A PROGRAM TO UPGRADE OUR PARKS BECAUSE IT'S TIME TO RENOVATE THEM AND WE'RE DOING THAT.
WE'VE ASKED NOTHING OF JTAA YET.
THEN OUTSIDE OF THE UPGRADES, THERE'S OPERATING COSTS THAT WE HAVE.
WE REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN OTHER THAN WHATEVER JTAA DOES, WHICH WE MIGHT HAVE INDIVIDUALLY GOT SOME INPUT ON.
THAT'S WHAT OCCURRED TO ME, WAS NUMBER 1.
THEN AS IT WAS MENTIONED, AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, BUT IT WAS MENTIONED TOWN ATTORNEY HAD ADVISED AGAINST ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT, AND I'M GOING TO ASK HIM IN A FEW MOMENTS TO COMMENT.
BUT THAT GUIDANCE WAS BASED UPON, I UNDERSTAND THE LITIGATION WE WERE IN.
WHERE SOUTH MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENT WAS LITIGATING AGAINST A TOWN LIKE WE'RE BEING UNFAIR.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THEM TO USE OUR FIELDS AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE, BUT IT STILL STUNS ME HOW ANYBODY CAN HAVE A LEGAL STANDING WHEN THEY'RE NOT PAYING A DIME.
THE OTHER THING IS, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW AND I THINK EVERYBODY ON THE DIAS DOES, SOUTH MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENTS, THEIR GOVERNMENTS CONTRIBUTE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE FINANCIAL AVAILABILITY OF FIELDS.
THEN TO THE OTHER EXTENT, THE GARDENS NOW HAS NEW FACILITIES, AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, AND MY COLLEAGUES KNOW IS THAT, YEARS AGO THE COUNTY GOT TOGETHER, THE MUNICIPALITIES IN NORTH COUNTY AND THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT MADE TO FIND A PARK SITE THAT WOULD BE A REGIONAL SITE.
IT WAS LOCATED IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
THAT REGIONAL SITE THEN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR EVERYBODY'S USE.
IRONICALLY, INITIALLY, THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO BUILD ONE AND THE GARDENS WAS OBJECTING, THEN THEY CAME AROUND AND WANTED TO BUILD IT.
THEY NOW HAVE LEASED THAT COUNTY PROPERTY AND HAVE A FACILITY THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE EQUALLY AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY IN NORTH COUNTY.
THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THE GARDENS HAS PROBABLY THE MOST THOUGHT OUT FACILITY AND MEMBER REGISTRATION USAGE FEES THAT I THINK IS A STARTING POINT FOR US TO CONSIDER.
WHY WOULDN'T WE CONSIDER IT? DRAW ATTENTION ON AUGUST 23RD, KRISTIAN HAD RESPONDED BACK TO ALL OF US, THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE PRESENTATION WE HAD INDIVIDUALLY SEEN.
I THINK COINCIDENTALLY, THEY MAY BE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT NONETHELESS, BECAUSE I JUST MIGHT HAVE HAD THOSE ANSWERED IN THE MEETING.
I ASKED FOR A COPY OF THE GARDENS USE AGREEMENT, AND IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT.
NOW, THEY HAVE A FEE FOR NON-RESIDENCE VERSUS RESIDENCE, A DIFFERENT FEE.
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I PONDERED ABOUT THAT.WHY DOESN'T THAT MAKE SENSE TO US TOO.
I'D LIKE TO START FROM THE PREMISES, I'D LIKE NOT TO ADD THE FEES FOR JUPITER RESIDENTS, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH CHARGING A FEE JUST LIKE JTAA IF THEY GO DOWN TO THE REGIONAL PARK AND IT'S FOR JUPITER RESIDENTS.
IN FACT, I HAD TALKED TO THE GARDENS MAYOR ABOUT THIS AND THE COUNTY MAYOR, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
I THINK IT'S A ROADMAP TO FOLLOW.
WHY NOT AT LEAST CONSIDER IT? I'D ASK THE STAFF, AND THEY HAD TO GO BACK TO JTAA, WELL, TO DEFINE WHAT'S IN JUPITER AREA.
IN THIS EMAIL, AND MAYBE IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION, I THINK NOT ALL OF IT IS, BUT IN JUPITER AREA, BECAUSE WE DEFINE JUPITER AREA, IT SAYS HOW MUCH ARE IN THE TOWN, HOW MUCH ARE IN UNINCORPORATED PALM BEACH COUNTY WITHIN JUPITER, HOW MUCH ARE IN THE VILLAGE AT DUQUESA? THEN FOR THE OTHER AREA, IT DEFINES HOW MUCH IS THE GARDENS, HOW MUCH IS MARTIN COUNTY, AND THEN WHAT'S EVEN OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA? WE GOT THAT FOR BOTH RECREATIONAL AND TRAVEL SPORTS.
THEN THE USAGE IN THE DIFFERENT SPORTS AND WHATEVER.
I SUBMIT THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT FOR TONIGHT, FOR THE INITIAL DIRECTION, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND WITH THOSE NUMBERS THERE, THERE COULD BE SIGNIFICANT NEW REVENUE JUST ESTABLISHING THE FEE STRUCTURE THAT THE GARDENS HAS FOR THEIR FACILITY AND USAGE AND ADOPTING LIKE THEY HAVE BASICALLY NOTHING FOR RESIDENTS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE TO THAT HERE.
I'M NOT ASKING ANYBODY TO AGREE TO IT, BUT I'M JUST WILLING TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO MAYBE USE THAT AS A ROADMAP.
THAT WOULD BEGIN TO GET SOME REVENUES THAT THE TOWN GETS.
AGAIN, THE STAFF COULD COME BACK TO US.
HOPEFULLY, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM JTAA THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY'VE ACCUMULATED WHEN THEY NO LONGER HAD TO CONTRIBUTE TO US, I KNOW THEY HAVE OVER $1 MILLION IN A BANK ACCOUNT, WE DON'T.
BUT I'M SENSITIVE BECAUSE I WANT TO POINT OUT, AGAIN, IN THAT IN THAT STAFF INFORMATION WE HAD GOTTEN, THERE ALSO WAS A COMPETITIVE ANALYSIS WITH WHAT FEES ARE PAID FOR GARDEN FACILITIES FOR JUPITER, FOR BOCA, FOR WELLINGTON.
LOOK, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE ANY HARDSHIP FOR FAMILIES ANYWHERE, BUT WE'RE NOT BEING FAIR TO JUPITER TAXPAYERS IF BASICALLY WE'RE COVERING EVERYTHING.
BUT REALLY, THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE ASKED AND YOU GAVE US.
TO ME IT PROVIDES A ROADMAP TO BEGIN A PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT COMING DOWN TO ASKING WHAT JTAA IS GOING TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT JUST MORE FUNDAMENTALLY THOSE IN THE PROGRAMS. I'M JUST THROWING OUT THE GARDEN SO I SUGGEST THAT AS A STARTING POINT, YOU CAN REDISTRIBUTE THAT.
STAFF CAN LOOK AT IT AND RECOMMEND FROM THAT.
BUT IF I'M INTERPRETING CORRECTLY, WHEN EACH FACILITY IS USED, AND THEY HAVE IT COVERED FOR WRECK VERSUS TRAVEL AND THEN THERE'S DISCOUNTS FOR A WRECK VERSUS A TRAVEL AND WHATEVER.
THERE'S RECOGNITION OF TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE YOU THINK OF A TOURNAMENT, THERE WAS A TOURNAMENT JUST THIS WEEKEND FOR SOCCER, MY GRANDDAUGHTER THAT WAS IN IT.
MY WIFE AND I WERE AT MCDONALD'S AND THERE WAS A TEAM FROM BOCA THAT WAS IN THERE SO I DON'T WANT TO BE YOU KNOW, NOT MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT TOURNAMENTS CAN BRING BUSINESS TO OUR BUSINESSES AND WHATEVER.
BUT THE GARDENS EVEN ADDRESSED THAT, AS I THOUGHT.
AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS PERFECT, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MOST RECENTLY DID IT.
THEY DID IT UNDER SCRUTINY OF THE COUNTY, I WOULD.
IMAGINE, BECAUSE THE COUNTY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS FAIRNESS BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THE COUNTY FACILITY.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT I'M GOING TO CHOOSE TO THINK THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.
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REGARDING THE SCHOOL FACILITIES, I LEARNED A LOT FROM READING THIS AND THE DIALOGUE BECAUSE I GUESS I HAD FORGOTTEN HOW MUCH WE WERE PAYING.WE DID IT TO FACILITATE JTAA TO MAKE MORE FACILITIES AVAILABLE.
I THOUGHT WE'RE WORKING OUT WITH THE DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY'RE USING OUR FACILITY QUITE A BIT.
IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS A LOT MORE ONE SIDED.
NOW WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE TOWN MANAGER AND PERHAPS FROM YOU IN OUR MEETINGS WAS THAT THE DISTRICT IS EVEN CHANGING THEIR RULES, SO I WANT TO PAUSE ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT 1 TO DECIDE TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK OUT, LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN THEY TOOK THE REVENUE AND THEY DIDN'T USE IT IN THE SCHOOLS.
I THINK ALL OF US GOVERNMENTS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO SHARE USAGE OF ALL OF FACILITIES FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COLLECTIVE PUBLIC.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I WANT TO JUST SAY, I WANT TO PAUSE ON THAT ONE.
AGAIN, I MAY BE OVERRULED, BUT LET'S START WITH OUR FACILITIES TO BEGIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COLLECTING FEES SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THEM.
>> BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT COLLECTING. WE WEREN'T COLLECTING.
WE STOPPED COLLECTING FOR ANYTHING NEW AND WE'VE NEVER COLLECTED FOR MAINTENANCE, REALLY, SO WE NEED TO DO THAT.
I'M SORRY TO MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST A COMPLICATED ONE TO KICK OFF.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO GIVE COMMENTS BEYOND THAT.
>> CAN I FOLLOW THAT AND SHARE SOME OF WHAT I'VE BEEN FINDING OUT, BUT I ALSO MAY ASK, YOU MENTIONED THE TOWN ATTORNEY SPEAKING ABOUT JUST THE REASONING POTENTIALLY BEHIND NOT ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK OR GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
>> WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE [NOISE] WHY THERE WERE AGREEMENTS.
THERE WERE AGREEMENTS BECAUSE JTAA WANTED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, CAPITAL FACILITIES, BUILDINGS ON TOWN PROPERTY.
CONTRACTORS WERE ON TOWN PROPERTY.
OF COURSE, ANYTIME YOU HAVE PROJECTS IN THE USE OF YOUR PROPERTY, YOU'RE POTENTIALLY EXPOSED TO LIABILITY.
USING THE MOST RECENT AGREEMENT, THE 2010 AGREEMENT, AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE WERE IMPROVEMENTS MADE FOR CONCESSION STANDS AND SOME STORAGE BUILDINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WERE ON THE PROPERTY AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT.
THE TOWN RECOGNIZED WHAT ALREADY WAS RECOGNIZED, WHICH WAS THAT THE JTAA WAS THE TOWN'S YOUTH SPORTS PROVIDER.
THEY DIDN'T REALLY NEED AN AGREEMENT TO DO THAT, BUT THAT WAS THE BASIS OF THE AGREEMENT.
[NOISE] GOING FORWARD, IF THERE'S TO BE AN AGREEMENT, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY, WELL, WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OR WHAT ARE THE GAINS THAT THE TOWN WOULD RECEIVE FROM JTAA.
IT MAY BE SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IN LIEU OF HAVING TOWN STAFF DO THOSE ORGANIZATIONAL [NOISE] THINGS.
THEN LIKEWISE, WHAT IS IT THAT THE TOWN PROVIDES FOR JTAA? RECOGNIZING, OF COURSE, THAT ONLY ABOUT 50% OF JTAA IS ACTUALLY TOWN RESIDENTS.
ON THE CAPITAL SIDE OF THING OR THE INCOME SIDE OF THINGS, WHAT'S BEEN MISSING IN THE TOWN FOR YEARS.
OF COURSE, WHEN JTAA STARTED, THE TOWN WAS MUCH SMALLER AND THE WHOLE AREA WAS MUCH SMALLER, WAS DIFFICULT TO GET ENOUGH TEAMS SOLELY WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER TO HAVE WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A LEAGUE.
USING BASEBALL AS AN EXAMPLE, DEPENDING ON THE POPULATION, YOU WANT TO HAVE FIVE OR SIX TEAMS THAT WOULD PLAY ONE ANOTHER.
ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THAT WAS DONE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY LESSON, IS THAT, THE SCOPE OF THE PLAYER POOL WAS EXPANDED TO GO BEYOND JUST THE INCORPORATED LIMITS.
NOT MUCH IS COMING OUT OF JUNO BEACH BECAUSE IN JUNO BEACH,
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ON THE BASEBALL SIDE, IT THINKS THERE'S A SEPARATE LITTLE LEAGUE THAT GOES THERE.AT THE TIME THAT AGREEMENT EXPIRED, THE TOWN WAS IN ACTIVE LITIGATION WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENT.
THE TOWN SPENT WELL OVER $100,000 DEFENDING THAT LAWSUIT, AND THE LAWSUIT WAS PREMISED ON THE AGREEMENT.
SPECIFICALLY, ON THE AGREEMENT STATING THAT JTAA WAS THE [NOISE] PREFERRED YOUTH SPORTS PROVIDER IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THE PLAINTIFF CHARACTERIZED THAT AS THE EXCLUSIVE SPORTS PROVIDER, WHICH WASN'T CORRECT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE REALLY IS NO OTHER SPORTS PROVIDER IN JUPITER.
THERE'S A PROVIDER IN JUPITER.
THERE'S A PROVIDER IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, THE PBYAA.
AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH, NORTH PALM BEACH HAS ITS OWN YOUTH PROGRAMS. THE RECOMMENDATION OF NOT ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WAS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS THE EXISTING LITIGATION AND THE FACT THAT, THE TOWN HAD BEEN SUED OVER THE EXISTING AGREEMENT AND ONCE IT EXPIRED, OUR THEORY, WHICH NEVER PLAYED OUT BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO FILE A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT, WHICH LATER THE PLAINTIFF JUST DISMISSED ITS LAWSUIT RECOGNIZING IT WAS GOING TO LOSE.
BUT THE THEORY WAS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO PERPETUATE THIS ANTITRUST LITIGATION THEORY THAT THE PLAINTIFF HAD BY THEN ENTERING INTO ANOTHER AGREEMENT.
ONCE IT EXPIRED, ONE OF THE TOWN'S DEFENSES WAS, WELL, THERE IS NO AGREEMENT BETWEEN JTAA AND THE TOWN, SO THERE CAN'T BE AN ANTITRUST VIOLATION IF THERE'S NO AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES, BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR THEORY OF THE CASE.
THAT THE TWO PARTIES HAD ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT AND HAD CONSPIRED TO KEEP ANY OTHER YOUTH PROVIDER OUT OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
IN THIS CASE, IT WAS A TRAVEL SOCCER TEAM.
IT WASN'T EVEN AN EVEN ANALYSIS BECAUSE JTAA WAS PROVIDING AT THAT TIME APPROXIMATELY 16 DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPORTS.
THIS YOUTH PROVIDER WAS JUST ONE SOLE SOCCER TRAVEL TEAM ACROSS AGE GROUPS FROM, I THINK IT WENT FROM NINE ALL THE WAY UP TO 12 OR 16 YEARS OLD.
THAT WAS THE BASIS OF NOT RECOMMENDING ANOTHER AGREEMENT, BUT IF COUNCIL DECIDES THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT HAVING THE FORMAL AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO THE RELATIONSHIP OF JTAA PROVIDING YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMS. I THINK AS YOU CAN SEE NOW, THERE'S NO AGREEMENT NOW.
THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING THE PROGRAMS. THE TOWN'S STILL PROVIDING THE FACILITIES FOR THEIR PROGRAMS. WHAT WOULD BE GAINED OUT OF A FORMAL AGREEMENT? I'M NOT SURE.
I SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE 1996 AGREEMENT, THE TOWN PROVIDED $15,000 ANNUALLY TO THEM.
THE SECOND AGREEMENT WAS MORE FOCUSED ON CAPITAL FACILITIES.
ALL OF THE FIRST AGREEMENT HAD THAT ELEMENT TO IT ALSO.
IF YOU WISH TO PURSUE A FORMAL AGREEMENT, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON STAFF TO IDENTIFY, WELL, WHAT IS IT THAT THE TOWN WANTS TO GET OUT OF THIS FORMAL AGREEMENT, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR JTAA TO IDENTIFY, WELL, WHAT IS IT THAT JTAA WANTS TO GET OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT.
THEN IT'S IMPORTANT FOR BOTH OF THOSE PARTIES TO IDENTIFY, WELL, WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR WHAT WE'RE GIVING BECAUSE, THE AGREEMENT PRESUMES THAT, BOTH SIDES ARE GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF THAT FORMAL RELATIONSHIP.
I WOULD SAY SOMETHING MORE THAN WHAT THEY GET OUT OF IT NOW, WHICH IS A PRETTY STRAIGHT RECIPROCAL RELATIONSHIP OF TOWN PROVIDES FACILITIES, TOWN PROVIDES TO SOME EXTENT AN ORGANIZATIONAL FRAMEWORK,
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THE TOWN STAFF WORKS WITH THE JTAA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND THEN THE JTAA IN TURN PROVIDES US AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ESSENTIALLY, THAT RUNS THOSE JTAA PROGRAMS.>> JUST TO DEGREE, I WAS SAYING THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
MY TAKEAWAY WAS THE GARDENS HAPPENED TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH PALM BEACH GARDENS YOUTH ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.
WHAT TO ME IT DID, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, BUT I'D LIKE TOWN ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY, IS THIS PROBLEMATIC, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THEY'RE BOUND TO THEM, BUT WHAT IT DID DO WAS IT COVERED ALL THE STUFF THAT WE'RE NOT COVERING NOW, WHICH IS USER FEES, WHICH WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
REALLY, WE HAD EVOLVED TO BEING MORE LIKE BOTH ARE DOING SOME SERVICES FOR ONE ANOTHER.
THEN, DID YOU REALLY NEED AN AGREEMENT FOR THAT, BUT JTAA WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE FEES WE'RE GOING TO BE CHARGING IF WE ARE TO DO THEIR BUSINESS.
WHETHER THIS TURNS OUT TO BE AN AGREEMENT WHICH THE GARDENS HAD, IT SEEMS LIKE THE CONTENTS OF WHAT IS PUT TOGETHER THAT WE ALL GOT EXHIBIT A, B C SEEMED TO BE THOUGHTFUL.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS PATH OF SAYING, THERE SHOULD BE USER FEES AND THEY SHOULD BE DIFFERENT FOR TOWN RESIDENTS VERSUS SOMEBODY IN MARTIN COUNTY AND ELSEWHERE, AND WE SHOULD, AGAIN, BE MINDFUL IN MY MIND OF NOT WANTING TO TAX TOWN RESIDENTS WITH PAYING MORE, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY ARE IN THE WAY OF TAXES.
THEY SHOULD BE GETTING LOWER FEE, AND WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER SPORTS ORGANIZATION IS USING OUR FIELDS IS, IN FACT, ADMINISTERING IT FAIRLY THE WAY WE WANT IT.
IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU.
>> I MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR KRISTIN.
I'M GOING TO MOVE THIS PLAN, [NOISE]. THAT'S BETTER.
IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED SITUATION BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY AGREEMENTS THAT RELY ON EACH OTHER.
THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND I WANT TO CONFIRM MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT IT SEEMS A BIT MORE COMPLEX EVEN THAN WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING BECAUSE THE AGREEMENT IN PART IS BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THE NEED TO USE THOSE FACILITIES, IS THAT RIGHT? WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF TALKS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY MAY REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT SHOULD THERE EVER BE ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE WITH THEIR FACILITIES FOR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
IS THAT RIGHT? BECAUSE WITH HIGH SCHOOLS, THEY DO USE TOWN FACILITIES, WE USE SOME OF THEIR FACILITIES AND THERE WAS NO COST, BUT WITH MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN THE PAST, THERE WAS A COST.
>> THERE WAS A COST. YES. FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WE PAID 195,000 OVER THE FIVE YEARS TO GET PRIORITY USAGE ULTIMATELY FOR JTAA FOR THAT GYM SPACE.
THAT'S THE TOWN OF JUPITER PAYING THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS FOR THOSE TEAMS, WHERE 50% ARE JUPITER RESIDENTS.
IS VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA, IS THERE ANY COST SHARING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THAT GROUP OR IS IT SOLELY ON THE TOWN OF JUPITER WHEN THE RESIDENCY PERCENTAGE IS LOWER?
>> WHEN IT RELATES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT IS SPECIFIC TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THE COUNTY DOES NOT PAY ANYTHING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, FOR JTAA TO UTILIZE ANY OF THE SPACES WITHIN THE SCHOOLS.
THERE'S NO INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
>> NO COST SHARING ARRANGEMENT, IT COULD BE FAIR.
ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS I WANT TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GARDENS AND JUPITER.
AGAIN, IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE OF THAT DISTRICT PARK, WHICH IS A COUNTY PARK. DON'T GET ME STARTED.
[LAUGHTER] I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT, [LAUGHTER] BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT GARDENS DOES CHARGE USER FEES AND IT CHARGES A HIGHER FEE FOR JUPITER RESIDENTS AND THEY PAY INTO IT, BUT GARDENS ALSO USES 100% GARDENS' FACILITIES.
DO THEY USE SCHOOL DISTRICT FACILITIES? DO THEY USE COUNTY FACILITIES? DO THEY USE OTHER MUNICIPAL FACILITIES?
>> I DO KNOW THAT THEY USE THE SCHOOL BOARD FACILITIES.
THEY HAVE A PRETTY ALL INCLUSIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR USE OF ALL OF THE PALM BEACH GARDENS SCHOOLS.
IN FACT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN REFERENCING AS WE'VE GONE INTO DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD OF MIMICKING THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
WE'VE BEEN MET WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RESISTANCE FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO BE HONEST.
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WE'VE HAD DRAFTS THAT WE WERE PRESENTED THAT WE MARKED UP.WE'VE NOW PRESENTED THEM TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO IS NOW MULLING THAT OVER.
WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, AND THEIR NEXT STEP IS TO COME BACK TO US WITH A NEXT ITERATION OF THE AGREEMENT THAT IS SPECIFIC TO JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IT ALSO WILL INCORPORATE OTHER SCHOOLS INTO IT.
IT WOULD BE A ONE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDES ALL SCHOOLS AND ALL TOWN FACILITIES.
THEY'RE MOVING AWAY FROM DOING WHAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST, WHICH WAS THREE SEPARATE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR THE MULTIPLE SCHOOLS, SO CAPTURING IT UNDER ONE.
YES, THEIR REQUIREMENT IS THAT WE DO HAVE A FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH ANY USERS THAT ARE TO GAIN SPACE THROUGH THE TOWN.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANYONE LIKE JTAA.
OR ANYONE THAT THE TOWN TRIES TO GET SPACE FOR WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN IN ORDER TO PROCURE THAT SPACE.
UNLESS THEY WORKED SEPARATELY ON THEIR OWN, LIKE JTAA RIGHT NOW HAS A METHOD AND HAS A PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE FOLLOWED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PAY VERY LOWEST COST POSSIBLE, WHICH IS A NON-PROFIT COST THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD CHARGES FOR THEM TO UTILIZE THE GYMNASIUMS, ESSENTIALLY.
THERE HAS BEEN A PROCESS DEVELOPED.
THEY DID RAISE USER FEES TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE COSTS, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS AT THIS POINT AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH FROM PARENTS OR ANYTHING BALKING AT THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET GYM SPACE OR AT ANY INCREASED COST.
>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COSTS WOULD BE IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FROM 2021.
ANOTHER DIFFERENCE IS THAT, PALM BEACH GARDENS USES SCHOOL DISTRICT FACILITIES, BUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE FACILITIES, I GUESS, IN FIELD OR OTHER, THEY ARE MAJORITY GARDENS' FACILITIES.
GARDENS MANAGED, SO IT'S MORE COHESIVE, I WOULD SAY.
WHAT I'M GETTING FROM TALKING TO DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS IS THAT JUPITER HAS MORE OF A MIX OF FACILITIES.
IT USES THE VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA RECREATION CENTER.
>> SOME OF THE FIELDS, POTENTIALLY, IT USES JUPITER FARMS FIELDS, IT USES JUPITER FIELDS.
I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGES OF EACH OF THOSE, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT SOME TEAMS MIGHT BE ASSIGNED TO JUPITER FARMS AND OTHER TEAMS MIGHT BE ASSIGNED TO JUPITER, AND WE WOULD CHARGE A USER FEE, BUT THE COUNTY WOULDN'T CHARGE.
THE COUNTY HAS ITS OWN USER FEE ACCESS PROCESS.
THEN THE VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA HAS ITS OWN USER FEE ACCESS PROCESS.
HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT WITH THE DIFFERENT GROUPS? IS THIS ALL CORRECT OR DO I HAVE THE RIGHT UNDERSTANDING ON SOME OF THIS?
>> IT'S JTAA THAT HAS THOSE ABILITIES TO WORK WITH THE FEE STRUCTURES AT THOSE FACILITIES.
I DON'T THINK THEY PAY FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY FALL UNDER THE COUNTY'S YOUTH SPORTS PROVIDER.
THEY HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY FOR USE OF JUPITER FARMS PARK.
I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER FACILITIES THAT THEY UTILIZE MORE THAN THAT.
WEST JUPITER COMMUNITY CENTER.
>> IT'S LIKE MAYBE 90% JUPITER FACILITY.
>> THEN ANOTHER THING I THOUGHT OF WAS, YES, THE RESIDENCY NUMBERS ARE LOW, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET THEM HIGHER.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT THEY'RE NOT TURNING AWAY STUDENTS OR CHILDREN THAT WANT TO PLAY.
IT'S NOT THAT THERE IS THIS HUGE DEMAND AND THEY'RE CHOOSING IN A WAY THAT MIGHT BE LEAVING SOMEONE OUT.
THEY'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE WITH A FEW RARE EXCEPTIONS IF THEY REGISTER VERY LATE.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST A SNAPSHOT OF WHO'S INTERESTED BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO ACCEPT ALL OF WHO'S INTERESTED. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> THAT IS MY IMPRESSION. I KNOW THEY DO TRY VERY HARD TO KEEP WAITING LISTS DOWN IF THERE ARE ANY.
BASKETBALL, WHICH IS THE LARGEST ONE THAT ENCOUNTERS SPACE
>> IF THERE IS A LITTLE BY SPORT.
>> I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE PAYING SO MUCH AND WE ARE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON A RECREATION MASTER PLAN THAT WILL BENEFIT THE TOWN OF JUPITER, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES PAYING FOR THESE UPGRADES, AND THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS ARE CONCERNING.
I HAD WONDERED AS WE DISCUSS OPENLY AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN LEARNING AND THINKING ABOUT JUST WAYS TO INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE OF JUPITER RESIDENTS, WHAT CAN THE TOWN DO FOR JTAA? CAN WE HELP THE MARKET? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A NEED OR NOT.
I HAVE A LIMITED UNDERSTANDING HERE, BUT THAT WAS JUST ONE THOUGHT WAS SOMEHOW WORKING WITH THAT.
THE SECOND IS, IN TERMS OF RESIDENCY, YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT, AND I AGREE.
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I'M NOT SURE WE NEED AN AGREEMENT, FIRSTLY, BUT IF WE EVER DID HAVE ONE, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE A WAY OUT OF THAT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE BEST USE OF TOWN STAFF TIME.I'M LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
>> JUST TO SPEAK TO THAT REAL QUICK.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN OUR MOST RECENT CONVERSATION, WAS THE LABORIOUS TASK THAT IT TAKES TO GET SPACE ON BEHALF OF A USER GROUP.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT COMMITTED INTO LOOKING INTO SEEING IF THEY DO THAT FOR ANY OF THE OTHER SCHOOL AND THE LOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE WITH MUNICIPALITIES.
>> THEN IT'S ALSO A LOT OF WORK TO DETERMINE RESIDENCY. IS THAT A BIG PART? THAT'S A BIG PART OF ALL THE PROGRAMS YOU DO.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE WORK INVOLVED? I'M JUST THINKING THAT AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT MAYBE THAN ORIGINALLY MEETS THE EYE.
I DON'T WANT TO RUSH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE RUSHED, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THING I'M THINKING ABOUT.
>> WITH THE RESIDENCY, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS THAT THE TRAVEL TEAMS THAT APPLY OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT APPLY TO UTILIZE TOWN SPACE, THAT'S THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE REQUIRING, THE 50%.
FOR THE RECREATION, IT HASN'T BEEN AS BIG OF A DEAL.
MOST OF THEIR PROGRAMS, AND AS AN ORGANIZATION, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO THAT 50%, AND THE MAJORITY THEN THEREAFTER COMES FROM THE GREATER JUPITER AREA WITH THE SMALLEST PARTICIPANTS COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA.
WHEN WE RUN THE REPORTS FOR THE TRAVEL TEAMS, IT IS A TEAM EFFORT, WE HAVE TO ASK JTAA FOR ALL OF THE UNIQUE ADDRESSES FOR PARTICIPANTS FOR EVERY ROSTER.
THEN THAT INFORMATION GETS IMPORTED INTO EXCEL, WE SEND THAT TO OUR GIS DEPARTMENT WHO THEN SEPARATES IT OUT AND CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT PERCENTAGES AND NUMBER OF KIDS INCORPORATED OUTSIDE OF JUPITER, PALM GARDENS, THEY CAN SEPARATE IT OUT VERY SPECIFICALLY FOR US.
BUT THAT TAKES TIME AND STAFF RESOURCES IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT'S NOT USED TO WORKING WITH RECREATIONAL OR SPORTS PROGRAMS. IT IS A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS.
BUT WE DO THAT FOR EVERY TRAVEL ORGANIZATION AND EVERY TRAVEL SEASON.
WE HAVE NOT CAPTURED IT COMPLETELY FOR RECREATION BECAUSE WE'VE GOT WHAT WE PRESENTED IN THE REPORT, BUT AS THE COUNCIL WAS REQUESTING THAT INFORMATION, WE WERE RUNNING REPORTS ON THAT.
>> IT'S TIED INTO THAT, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR MASTER PLANNING PROCESS WHERE IT'S NOT COMPLETE.
>> WE HAVE SURVEYED FAMILIES, RESIDENTS.
WE DO HAVE A SENSE, BUT NOT FORMALLY YET.
WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT EFFORTS ON PARALLEL TRACKS, AND A LOT WILL HAPPEN DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT COMES BACK WITH, OR WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK OUT WITH JTAA, AND THEN WHAT ENDS UP BECOMING OF THE MASTER PLAN IN TERMS OF THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
WE DID HAVE THESE SOURCES OF REVENUE COMING IN.
I GUESS THAT WAS THE TIME ABACO WAS BUILT ON THE IMPACT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THOSE ARE GONE.
THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS 20, 25-YEARS-OLD, IT'S TIME FOR RECREATION, AND WE'RE DOING IT.
WE'VE GOT A STRONG START, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE FAIR TO JUPITER TAXPAYERS.
IF THERE'S COST SHARING OR STAFF TIME, IT'S SOMETHING THAT RESONATES FROM THE PRESENTATION.
>> BY THE WAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON, BUT JUST TO ADDRESS, THAT'S WHY I SAID, PUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AGREEMENT ASIDE BECAUSE WHEN WE DID IT, WHEN WE ASKED OUR REC DIRECTOR AT THAT TIME TO PURSUE THAT, WE WERE HEARING THAT JTAA WAS HAVING DIFFICULTIES GETTING IT, SO WE THOUGHT, HEY, WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP, THEY USE OUR FACILITIES, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T DO IT FOR THEM.
BUT TO THE DEGREE THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR US, WE WERE PAYING A FEE AND THEY WEREN'T PUTTING IT BACK IN THE SCHOOL.
QUITE FRANKLY, I'D PUT IT ASIDE BECAUSE IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT JTAA WAS GOING TO THE SCHOOLS AND GETTING WHAT THEY COULD GET.
TO ME, TABLE IT BECAUSE IT'D BE JTAA STEPPING UP AND SAYING, COULD YOU GET AN AGREEMENT AGAIN, IN WHICH CASE, WE'D SAY, WELL, WE WILL IF YOU PAY WHATEVER THE FEES ARE GOING TO BE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
THAT'S WHY I SAID, THAT'S COMPLICATED.
IT DIDN'T WORK OUT AS WE EXPECTED, AND WE DON'T HAVE ONE NOW.
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I JUST WANT TO BRING UP, THAT DOCUMENT I WAS REFERRING TO, THE GARDENS CHARGES, AND I ASKED, IT'S A $56 FEE FOR NON-RESIDENT REGISTRATION.I SAID, WHAT'S THE TIME PERIOD? THE NON-RESIDENT REGISTRATION FEE WAS ASSESSED FOR EACH SPORT REGISTRATION EVERY SEASON.
NOW, WHAT'S UNFAIR ABOUT THAT IS, FOR TRAVEL, FOR EXAMPLE, 10% OF THE TRAVEL POPULATION IS FROM THE GARDENS.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP TO GARDENS MAYOR AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT YOURS AS A BENCHMARK.
IN TURN, WE HAVE JUPITER RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE GARDENS LEAGUE, AND THEY'RE PAYING A $56.
I'M JUST SAYING, WE'RE TRYING TO BE FAIR HERE.
THAT'S WHY I DO BELIEVE THAT'S A STARTING POINT, IF YOU WILL.
CERTAINLY, IT'S NOT FAIR FOR OUR TAXPAYERS, ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY TO BE PAYING FOR MARTIN COUNTY.
THE PEOPLE IN MARTIN COUNTY SOUTH OF THE PARK USED TO BE CALLED A LOST TRIBE BECAUSE MARTIN COUNTY WOULDN'T PAY ANYTHING.
THERE IS NO REC FACILITIES OR WHATEVER.
WELL, HEY, IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO PAY A FEE.
AGAIN, WE CAN DECIDE WHAT THAT IS, BUT IT'S NOT FAIR INHERENTLY.
WE HAVE TO GET CAUGHT UP NOW, WITH THE NEW ERROR HERE AS WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY IN.
I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
I THINK EACH ONE OF US OUGHT TO LOOK, STAFF OUGHT TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT THAT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO ADVOCATE FOR WHY I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE STARTING POINT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO ALL OF IT, BUT BECAUSE THE GARDENS THOUGHT IT THROUGH.
THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCOUNT BASED ON RESIDENCY PERCENTAGES.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S PERFECT, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS, THEY HAVE.
WITH THAT, LET ME MOVE DOWN THE DAIS TO COUNCILOR MAY.
>> I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID SO FAR.
I THINK I WOULD NEVER BE IN A POSITION WHERE I'M GOING TO CHARGE A JUPITER RESIDENT TO UTILIZE THE FACILITIES THAT THEY ALREADY PAY FOR.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AND THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D WANT TO WORK OUT WITH JTAA, YOU COULD SAY, IF YOU HAVE JUPITER RESIDENTS REGISTERING FOR YOUR SPORTS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THIS FEE, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY IN THE OUTSIDE AREA, THEY WOULD BE PAYING THE FEE, AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT FEE IS.
WE COULD BENCH MARK IT OFF OF GARDENS OR COME UP WITH OUR OWN BASED ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO OUR FACILITIES TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED BECAUSE THEY ARE DEFINITELY IN NEED OF SOME R&R, A LOT OF THE FIELDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH JTAA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
RIGHT NOW I COACH JTAA SPORTS AND MY KIDS ARE PARTICIPATING, SO I'M DIRECTLY IMPACTED AS WELL.
A LOT OF THE KIDS THAT WERE ON MY TEAM AND OTHER TEAMS AND STUFF, THEY ARE JUPITER RESIDENTS AS WELL, SOME FROM THE OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS, UNINCORPORATED AREAS MOSTLY.
I THINK WE CONTINUE WITH THAT.
HAVING A FORMAL AGREEMENT, LIKE THE TOWN ATTORNEY SAID, PUTS US IN A DIFFICULT SPOT, AND IT'S A TRICKY SITUATION.
I WANT TO CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH JTAA, MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE ON THEM FOR WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO ALLOCATE FIELD SPACE AND RESERVE AND STUFF.
I SAT WITH KRISTIN AND ADAM A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FACILITATE THEIR NEEDS AND EXPEDITE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ALLOCATE FOR FIELD USAGE AND GYMNASIUM SPACE AND STUFF.
I THINK IT'S BEEN GOING WELL SO FAR WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T WANT TO REALLY WANT TO MUDDY UP ANY OF THAT, BUT AS FAR AS FEES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I DO AGREE THAT I THINK OUTSIDE OF THE JUPITER AREA, THERE PROBABLY SHOULD BE A FEE JUST TO HELP US WITH OUR RESTORATION OF OUR PARKS AND OUR FIELDS AND STUFF.
I'LL JUST KEEP IT SHORT TONIGHT.
I KNOW IT'S JUST A ROUND TABLE, BUT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH TRYING TO GIVE STAFF SOME DIRECTION AND LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND YOU CAN COME BACK TO US AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
THEN AS FAR AS THE ILA, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED AN ILA WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE NOT JUST FOR JTAA, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OTHER PROGRAMS COMING UP THAT HAVE WANTED TO UTILIZE JUST THE GRASS FIELD AT JUPITER ELEMENTARY, WHICH LOOKS TERRIBLE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT IT'S STILL FIELD USAGE.
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FOR OTHER PROGRAMS THAT'S NOT JTAA THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE FACILITIES, I WANTED AN ILA IN PLACE FOR THAT IF POSSIBLE.WE'RE SEPARATING THE TWO RIGHT NOW, BUT I KNOW WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON TRYING TO GET AN ILA WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
BUT IF IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE HAVE AN ILA AND IT HELPS JTAA, THEN I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TOO.
>> THIS WAS ONE OF MY INITIATIVES LAST YEAR, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.
I WANTED TO HEAR FROM ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES.
MY KIDS ALSO PARTICIPATED IN JTAA.
THEY CYCLED OUT AND WE SAW NEEDS FOR INDOOR USAGE, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
BUT THE WHOLE FUNDING PARADIGM HAS CHANGED, BUT AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED PROBABLY THE TWILIGHT OF THE IMPACT FEES FROM DEVELOPMENT.
I WAS VERY CONCERNED WITH THE FAIRNESS TO JUPITER TAXPAYERS, JUPITER KIDS NOT BEING A HIGH ENOUGH RATIO PARTICIPATING IN THE SPORTS, OVERPAYING AND ALL THAT.
I JUST THOUGHT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE GREAT JTAA RELATIONSHIP, AND THEN THE PROBLEM CAME UP WITH LAWSUIT.
I'M DUBIOUS ABOUT ANOTHER FORMAL RELATIONSHIP.
OBVIOUSLY IS WORKING OUT WITHOUT ONE, SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP CONTINUING TO HERE WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SAY.
LOT OF INFORMATION HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THIS IS THE DIRECTION I WANT IT TO GO.
I'LL TURN THE MIC OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE.
>> THANK YOU. I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE IS THREE OR FOUR FRIENDS UP IN HOBE SOUND WANTED TO COME DOWN THROW A FRISBEE IN ONE OF OUR PARKS, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT? THERE'S NO AGREEMENT OR NOTHING THAT WOULD COVER THAT?
>> WE'RE TALKING ORGANIZED SPORTS ONLY?
>> TRY AND MAKE THAT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC.
>> I THINK LIKE EVERYBODY HAD TWO KIDS GO THROUGH JTAA, AND ACTUALLY AT THE TIME, I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF JUPITER.
YOU HEAR JUPITER QUESTION, YOU JUST FIGURE IT'S PART OF MUNICIPALITY.
BUT I AM A JUPITER TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER, AND AS SUCH, I'M RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITIZENS OF JUPITER.
I'M ALSO A COUNTY TAXPAYER, I'M A TAXPAYER TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, BUT I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE TOWN.
THE TOWN IS PAYING FOR THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE USING, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMEWHAT FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF A FEE FOR NON-RESIDENTS.
BUT I'M NOT JUST A TOWN COUNSELOR, I'M A CARING HUMAN, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD SOME TYPE OF ADDITIONAL FEE.
MAYBE WE COULD THINK ABOUT AN INDIGENT WAIVER FOR A FEE FOR NON-RESIDENTS OR SOMEBODY IF THEY COULD SHOW THEY'RE IN A SNAP PROGRAM OR SOME OTHER PROGRAM THEY'RE ALREADY ENROLLED IN, WE COULD WAIVE A FEE.
BUT I FUNDAMENTALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD, PARDON UPON OF NON-RESIDENTS PAYING A FEE.
IT'S NOT AS THOUGH OUR RESIDENTS AREN'T PAYING A FEE.
THEY ARE THROUGH TAXES, THEY'RE PAYING THE FEE, SO THERE'S A WAIVER OF FEE FOR NON-RESIDENTS AND THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY FAIR.
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME WAY WE CAN FIGURE OUT TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD.
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO PAY SOME TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS UNLESS THEY'RE NOT CAPABLE OF PAYING IT.
AS FAR AS AGREEMENTS GO, I'M NOT VERY SHY ABOUT AGREEMENTS.
I THINK AGREEMENTS ARE SOMEWHAT LIKE FENCES, THEY MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND I HAVE EVERY FAITH IN THE WORLD THAT MR. BAIRD COULD PUT TOGETHER AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US THAN BEING AGREEMENT FREE.
FOR INSTANCE, OUR LIABILITY RIGHT NOW EXISTS, WHETHER WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT OR NOT, MIGHT IT BE POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD GET SOME TYPE OF WAIVER OF LIABILITY WITH SOME OF THESE AGREEMENTS.
YOU HAD MENTIONED LIABILITY FOR HAVING CONTRACTORS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT HAS IT CLEAR, LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
BUT WHAT IF ONE OF OUR TOWN VEHICLES BACKED OVER A GROUP OF KIDS? AS HORRIBLE AS THAT WOULD BE, WITH NO AGREEMENT AND NO WAIVER, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE IN A PARTICULARLY GOOD POSITION.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN WAIVE GROSS NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TYPE OF PROBLEM STRICTLY LEGAL CONCERNS, BUT COULD WE NOT PUT TOGETHER AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWN AND LIMITING OUR LIABILITY? IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO?
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IS THAT WITHIN OUR ABILITY, MR. BAIRD, DO YOU THINK?>> WELL, AS I SAID, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO AGREE TO.
WHAT ARE THE TERMS OF THAT AGREEMENT? WHAT IS THE TOWN RECEIVING FROM JTAA AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT? WHAT IS BEYOND GIVING OR ALLOWING JTAA TO USE TOWN FACILITIES? WHAT IS THE TOWN PROVIDING TO JTAA?
>> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN THEY TAKE OFF THE TOWN, WHICH MUST BE HUGE TO PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THESE EVENTS.
>> WELL, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME ANALYSIS OF THAT.
WHAT IT MEANS, BECAUSE OTHER YOUTH ATHLETIC ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE THE SAME TYPE OF FRAMEWORK THAT JTAA PROVIDES IN TERMS OF COACHES, AND ALL OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE IT PROTECTS THEM, HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS AND OTHER TYPES OF PROTECTIONS.
BECAUSE THEY'RE A LEGAL ENTITY TOO AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE PROTECTING THEMSELVES FROM INDIVIDUAL LIABILITIES THROUGH THE ORGANIZATION.
>> WELL, AS YOU POINTED OUT BEFORE, THE JTAA IS JUST ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S USING THIS.
MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH ALL ORGANIZATIONS.
>> I'M NOT AWARE OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE JTAA.
>> THERE'S NOTHING QUITE LIKE IT BECAUSE OF ITS SHEER SIZE.
>> WELL, THERE'S NO OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES 16 SPORTS.
>> RIGHT, SHEER SIZE, BUT THEY ALL OFFER.
>> THIS WAS PART OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE LAWSUIT.
THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE TRAVEL TEAMS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND USE THE TOWN'S FACILITIES, BUT THERE'S NO, CURRENTLY, AND HAS NOT BEEN ANY FEE FOR USING THAT FACILITY.
ACTUALLY, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS FROM JTAA, BOTH RECREATION AND TRAVEL, THERE'S NO SPACE FOR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO COME IN AND USE FACILITIES.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT DROVE THE LAWSUIT, WAS THAT, THIS INDIVIDUAL, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, ALTHOUGH HIS RESIDENCY WAS IN MARTIN COUNTY, LIVES IN JUPITER, WANTED TO USE JUPITER FACILITIES, EVEN THOUGH HE WASN'T A TAXPAYER OF JUPITER, AND REDUCED HIS TRAVEL.
THEY WOUND UP LEASING THE FACILITY DOWN IN [OVERLAPPING] PALM BEACH GARDENS, FROM A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.
BUT I THINK THAT WAS WHAT IN PART WAS SO ADVERSE TO THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME; WAS THAT, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
HERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS COMPRISED OF LESS THAN 50% OF JUPITER RESIDENTS, AND THEY WANT TO USE A JUPITER FACILITY FOR FREE.
THEY WOULD LIKE THE TOWN TO DISPLACE JTAA WHERE THERE'S BEEN THIS LONG HISTORICAL RELATIONSHIP AND REQUIRE JTAA JUST ESSENTIALLY TAKE A BACK SEAT, AT LEAST WITH RESPECT TO SOCCER SO THAT THEY COULD USE THE TOWN'S FIELDS.
I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE DONE THAT OPENING ARGUMENT.
>> I CAN IMAGINE. SOUNDS BRAVE FOR MSJ.
BUT THIS IS THE FIRST I'D HEARD OF SPACE ISSUES.
WE'RE BOOKED, I GUESS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE ARE BOOKED.
>> WELL, STAFF CAN ELABORATE, BUT IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE SPORT IN PART.
>> THAT REALLY BRINGS UP A [OVERLAPPING]
>> INDOOR SPACE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE TOWN HAS ITS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY CENTER.
THE COUNTY DOESN'T PROVIDE A SIMILAR FACILITY IN THE NORTH END.
BUT AS FAR AS BASKETBALL, INDOOR VOLLEYBALL, ALL THOSE SPORTS, THOSE FACILITIES ARE LIMITED.
THEN, WE FOUND OUT DURING THE LITIGATION JUST HOW SOCCER IS A VERY POPULAR SPORT.
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LOTS OF FAMILIES FROM THE NORTH END PLAYING IT, AND THE TOWN JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF FACILITIES REALLY, IN PART, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE SEASON TO MEET THAT DEMAND.>> WELL, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR BOTH SPACEWISE AND MONEYWISE, THE TOWN RESIDENTS SHOULD BE GIVEN PRIORITY, AND THAT'S MY CUT FEEL FOR, AND THAT'S WHAT I'D BE WILLING TO GO ALONG WITH.
STILL, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY SHY OF COMING UP WITH SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT THAT WOULD SPECIFY WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE SAYING IF IT'S DOABLE.
>> I THINK, IF I MAY JUST BUILD ON THAT, NUMBER 1, AND I SHOULD EMPHASIZE THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPLIED.
JTAA HAS SERVED THIS COMMUNITY FOR 60 YEARS.
THEY REALLY ARE A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM IN LARGE PART.
NOW I KNOW THEY HIRED AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BUT THEY'RE A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB FOR YEARS.
NONE OF THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT, I HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH JTAA, LET ME MAKE THAT CLEAR.
BUT I'D SUBMIT IT IS NOT WORKING BECAUSE THE SITUATION WE HAD WAS WORKING, AND WE HAD A LOT OF MONEY ON IMPACT FEES AND WHATEVER.
WE'RE BOTH DOING UPGRADES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH I DON'T SEE ANYBODY STEPPING UP, AND WE HAVE OPERATION COSTS THAT GO UP YEAR AFTER YEAR.
BECAUSE JTAA HAS TO MANAGE WHAT THEY CHARGE.
A LOT OF THE VOLUNTEERS ARE FROM UNINCORPORATED AREAS, SOMEWHERE FROM SOUTH MARTIN COUNTY, THAT WAS THE ISSUE.
THIS RESIDENT CLAIMED HE WAS IN JUPITER ZIP CODE, BUT IN MARTIN COUNTY.
BUT BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT THE GARDENS ACCOMPLISHED WAS ESTABLISHING USER FEES AND AT LEAST TRYING IN A WAY THAT THE YOUTH ORGANIZATION THEN HAD TO USE THEM.
BECAUSE THEY COLLECT A USER FEE.
THEY SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US WHERE EVERYBODY IS AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO PAY US.
THEREIN, ALL THIS IS TRANSPARENT, THEN THEY WOULDN'T CHARGE GARDEN RESIDENTS.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE PUNITIVE.
WE HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, THAT TOWN RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY PAYING TAXES TO THE TOWN, NOBODY ELSE IS.
THE USER FEES IS NOT INTENDED TO BE THE END OF A BILL IT'S JUST A PORTION.
QUITE FRANKLY, I'M SEEING THESE USER FEES WILL BE PROBABLY MORE FOR OPERATING COSTS THAN CAPITAL, BUT THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
BUT I JUST CAN'T OVEREMPHASIZE THAT WE'RE SATISFIED WHEN WE'RE THRILLED WITH JTAA.
WE'RE NOT UP HERE AS JUPITER REPRESENTATIVES TRYING TO GET OTHERS TO PAY FOR IT, BUT IT'S A FAIRNESS THING.
I THINK WE'VE ALL MADE THAT PRETTY CLEAR, I CAN'T OVEREMPHASIZE THAT.
MAYBE THIS ISN'T AN AGREEMENT, MAYBE IS JUST THE CRITERIA BY WHICH ANYBODY USING OUR FACILITIES WOULD HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE TOWN, SO WE HAVE SOME REVENUES TO PAY FOR OUR COST, IF YOU WILL.
IN THE WAY OF YOUTH SCHOLARSHIPS, BY THE WAY, IS JTAA HAS ALWAYS HAD TO SOME DEGREE, SCHOLARSHIPS, AND THEN OTHERS OFFER SCHOLARSHIPS TO THOSE THAT ARE NEEDY, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE TOWN, WHETHER IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, WHETHER IN MARTIN.
SCHOLARSHIPS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FUNDAMENTALLY PART OF WHAT THEY DO.
I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST OUR KICKOFF HERE.
I'M GLAD EVERYBODY WEIGHED IN.
I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY AND WRAPPING UP, BUT I THINK THIS IS ALL WE COULD GIVE IN THE WAY OF INITIAL GUIDANCE.
IT'S A COMPLICATED MATTER, BUT STAND DOWN ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ONE.
BUT YOU HEAR FROM JTAA, WE UNDERSTOOD UNDER THE DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, WHAT THAT'S WORTH, BUT WE'D HAVE TO BE COLLECTING USER FEES FOR THAT FACILITY THAT ISN'T OURS IF WE'RE IN FACT PAYING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR IT.
THAT WOULD WORK ITSELF OUT THAT WAY, BUT I'D RATHER NOT GET DISTRACTED BY THAT.
WE THINK WE ALL WANTED TO START WITH FUNDAMENTALLY THE BASICS OF LET'S SEE WHAT THE GARDENS DID AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT I DID SOME NUMBERS, BUT HAVE THE STAFF COME UP WITH, WHAT WOULD THAT BE IN THE WAY OF REVENUE.
COME BACK TO US AND SEE, AND THEN EVERYBODY CAN WEIGH IN? I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
I WAS JUST SUBMITTING WE'RE BLESSED WITH THE GARDENS JUST WENT THROUGH THIS.
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THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST THOROUGH BECAUSE THEY WERE KICKING OFF ALL NEW FACILITIES IN A WAY.>> HAVE NO PROBLEM CHARGING A FEE TO COVER OPERATING COSTS.
THAT SEEMS REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FEES IS ANOTHER ISSUE, BUT COVERING OPERATION COSTS, THAT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT COST FOR US.
>> WE'RE JUST UPGRADING THE BUSINESS MODEL TO THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.
CORRECT? PRETTY MUCH WE'RE DOING.
GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH JTAA, JUST MODERNIZING A LITTLE BIT.
>> BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE OTHER GROUPS.
I'M NOT 100% OPPOSED TO THAT EITHER AT THIS EARLY STAGE.
I THINK ALL THESE THINGS ARE EVOLVING.
BUT WHERE WE CAN BE AN ADVOCATE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR PROGRAMS AND OUR PARTNERS BEFORE A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT IS ALSO CHANGING ITS RULES THAT'S MAKING LIFE TOUGHER FOR ALL OF US.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR A LONG TIME.
IF WE CAN BE ADVOCATES THERE AND TRY TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT WORKS FOR ALL OF US, IN TERMS OF TIME AND RESOURCES AND THAT'S FAIR, I THINK IT'S WORTH THE EFFORT.
WITH THEIR NEW RULES, IT WON'T JUST BE JTAA BUT THERE MAY BE OTHERS THAT BENEFIT FROM IT.
WE'LL SEE WHAT WE END UP WITH.
I THINK WE SHOULD, I'M NOT CLOSE TO THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
>> I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE HAD ASKED FOR THEIR FEEDBACK PRIOR TO THE HOLIDAYS.
I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IT JUST WITH THEIR QUICK SCHEDULE.
IT'S COMING UP BEFORE US IN FOUR DAYS.
I'M GUESSING THAT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE'LL RECEIVE THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE DRAFT BETWEEN THE TWO OF US AND WE'LL SIT DOWN AGAIN AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND I CAN REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL HOW THAT GOES.
OBVIOUSLY, JTAA GETS THE PRIORITY AND SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS THAT I RECEIVED TONIGHT THAT I CAN RESPOND TO IMMEDIATELY INCLUDES CIRCULATING THE PALM BEACH GARDENS IN THE PBG YAA AGREEMENT THAT'S OUT THERE SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT FOR REFERENCE AS THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT.
THEN WE CAN ALSO DO A BENCHMARK STUDY OF WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE CHARGING NONRESIDENT USER FEES FOR AS A BENCHMARK, ANYWAYS.
>> WHEN YOU DO THAT, BY THE WAY, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE CAPTURING THOSE THAT ARE STILL IN THE IMPACT FEE CYCLE, WE'RE NOT.
THAT'S A DISTINGUISHING DIFFERENCE.
I WOULD THINK WELLINGTON MIGHT BE IN THAT CATEGORY, FOR EXAMPLE.
>> GARDENS IS STILL DOING WELL WITH THAT.
THAT'S A DISTINGUISHING DIFFERENCE, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU BENCHMARK, YOU REMIND US ON THAT.
AGAIN, ABOUT JTAA, AND I'M GOING TO JUST SHARE A PERCEPTION AND I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON REALITY.
WE'RE UNDER THE THIRD OR FOURTH GENERATION IN JTAA OVER 60 YEARS.
I HAVE A GRANDDAUGHTER WHO'S IN TRAVEL SOCCER.
PERCEPTION I HAVE IS JTAA, IT'S WITHIN THEIR CONTROL WHEN IT FIELDS, I BELIEVE [INAUDIBLE].
WE PRACTICE A LOT OUT IN FARMS BECAUSE PROBABLY, I'M GOING TO GUESS, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
IT'S IN THE EVENINGS WHEN IT'S NOT DESIRABLE AND MAYBE THERE'S LESS FEE.
THEY'LL ALWAYS HAVE THAT PREROGATIVE ON USE OF FIELDS.
THEN ALSO WHEN THERE ARE TOURNAMENTS.
A LOT OF THEM ON SUNDAY WHEN REC PROGRAMS DON'T WANT TO USE IT RIGHT EVER.
THE ONLY THING WE'D WANT TO THINK ABOUT IS ALLOWING A FIELD TO REST.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY REALLY ARE GOING OUT IN LARGE PART.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE GONE TO OVER THE YEARS.
I THINK YOU HAD IT IN YOUR WRITE-UPS.
WHATEVER CHANGE WE INTRODUCE HERE, JTAA STILL HAS AVAILABLE TO THEM OTHER SOURCES THAT THEY CAN MANAGE.
THE COUNTY DOES HAVE THE COUNTY COMMUNITY CENTER, IF YOU WILL, WHICH IS AT CENTRAL AND IT'S NOT USED MUCH, BUT THERE IS SOME INDOOR SPACE THERE THAT JTAA USES BECAUSE I KNOW, I'VE BEEN THERE. IN ANY EVENT.
>> I HAVE A VERY GOOD GRASP WITH THIS.
>> I'M GLAD. HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT FOR YOU.
>> YOU'VE GIVEN ME SOME GOOD DIRECTION, AND I WILL RESPOND BACK AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE TOWN MANAGER AND ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING I CAN PROVIDE FOR THIS EVENING?
>> NO, BUT I'M GLAD IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU FOLKS HAVE KEPT UP A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND EVERYTHING.
>> ALWAYS. I'LL REMIND YOU THAT WE ARE PLANNING ON COMING BACK WITH ANOTHER ROUND TABLE.
>> WE CAN UPDATE YOU ON THIS INFORMATION.
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THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE ALLOCATION PROCESS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR TRAVEL AND RECREATION AND POTENTIAL USER FEE STRUCTURE FOR OUTSIDE GROUPS USING TOWN SPACE SINCE THERE ARE NO FEES CHARGED FOR THAT AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OUTSIDE GROUPS THAT DO COME IN ASIDE FROM JTAA THAT ARE WANTING TO USE SPACE MORE AND MORE.WE CAN CIRCLE BACK ON THAT WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR GOOD WORK.
>> CAN I JUST ASK THE TOWN MANAGER, DO YOU FEEL YOU GOT DIRECTION TONIGHT?
>> WE DID, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK KRISTEN FOR THE PRESENTATION THAT SHE'S DONE.
A LOT OF WORK ON THIS, AND THE STAFF IS HERE WITH HER AS WELL, SO APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD DIRECTION FROM YOU.
>> I'M HAPPY TO SEE JTAA IS HERE TOO.
WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD REPRESENTATION FROM THEM.
I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE KEPT THEIR FINGERS ON THE PULSE, AND IT'S A PARTNERSHIP THAT GOES A LONG WAY BETWEEN THE TWO OF US.
THANK YOU AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS, EVERYONE.
>> MAYOR, THERE IS A CITIZEN COMMENT AS WELL.
>> GOOD EVENING. ADAM MEGAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR JTAA.
FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK STAFF HAS DONE, KEEPING US IN THE LOOP, ASKING FOR DATA THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO EVERYBODY.
BUT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK IS A GREAT STEP IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE LIVE FOR.
A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO JUST SPEAK ON.
THERE'S A LOT TO IMPACT, BUT I'LL KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
A COMMENT WAS MADE THAT JTAA REALLY HASN'T GIVEN BACK MUCH, EITHER FINANCIALLY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO THE TOWN.
STAFF CAN ATTEST THAT WHENEVER THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS FIXING OR IMPROVEMENT, WE ALWAYS SAY, HOW CAN WE HELP DO THIS? IF IT'S SCOREBOARDS, LIKE JCP, INTERMITTENTLY, SOME DON'T WORK.
CAN WE PURCHASE SCOREBOARDS FOR THE TOWN? OBVIOUSLY, IT GETS A LITTLE MAYBE MUDDLED IF JTAA IS PURCHASING IT, AND OBVIOUSLY, IT'S THE TOWN'S EQUIPMENT, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I REACH OUT TO STAFF AND WE TALK ABOUT IT.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP OUT IN THAT ASPECT? PLEASE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING THE FIELDS FOR GRANTED OR FACILITIES FOR GRANTED, THAT IT'S JUST THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY.
WE'RE ALL HERE TOGETHER TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE KIDS OF THE COMMUNITY A PLACE TO PLAY.
FEW OTHER THINGS TO POINT OUT.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO DIVE TOO MUCH INTO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AGREEMENTS.
WE HAVE SPENT ALMOST $500,000 FOR THAT SPACE.
THE $39,000 A YEAR THE TOWN WAS SPENDING ON BEHALF OF JTAA IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET COMPARED TO THE $500,000 WE'VE SPENT SINCE THAT TIME THE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNIFICANT.
THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. JUST THIS PAST YEAR, WE SPENT OVER $200,000 BETWEEN JUPITER MIDDLE SCHOOL, INDEPENDENCE MIDDLE SCHOOL, A LITTLE BIT IN DUNCAN MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR OUR FACILITIES.
AS WE BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER INTO RECREATIONAL SPORTS WHERE EVERYBODY IS INCLUDED, THAT'S $198 AN HOUR FOR A REC BASKETBALL GAME.
FOR YOUR JUPITER RESIDENTS, THIS FEE DOES GET PASSED THROUGH THEM TO SOME DEGREE, BUT THAT'S $198 AN HOUR.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S STANDPOINT, WE HAVE ABSORBED THAT COST.
IT IS A NONPROFIT RATE, BUT PLUS FEES, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE AT ALMOST $198 AN HOUR.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESIDENCY STATUS, OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.
WE CAN'T CONTROL WHERE EVERYBODY COMES FROM.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FEES, JUST REAL QUICK, I WANT TO POINT THIS OUT.
BECAUSE WE USE SO MANY DIFFERENT FACILITIES, TO DIFFERENTIATE WHAT A JUPITER RESIDENT USING JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK OR JUPITER FARMS PARK ON A RECREATIONAL SPORT BASIS IS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE.
WE MAY HAVE A BOYS 10-YEAR-OLD DIVISION THAT ONLY PLAYS AT JUPITER FARMS PARK, BUT WE MAY NOT KNOW THAT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE.
HOW DO WE ASSESS THEM A NON-RESIDENT FEE? [NOISE] I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
I CAN SHARE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION, WHATEVER ANYBODY NEEDS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY MORE CITIZENS' COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
[BACKGROUND] MOVING ON TO REPORTS. TOWN ATTORNEY.
[TOWN ATTORNEY]
>> WELL, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT REALLY A REPORT, IT'S JUST A RHETORICAL QUESTION.
I'M GOING TO PUT OUT THERE FOR Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT AND STAFF TO THINK ABOUT IT
[02:20:05]
BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT JUPITER RESIDENTS PAYING FOR JUPITER FACILITIES.ALL PROPERTY OWNERS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY PAY TAXES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THEIR FACILITIES, WHY IS IT THAT OUR CHILDREN ON TOP OF THE TAXES WE'RE PAYING TO USE THOSE FACILITIES THEN HAVE TO PAY ADDITIONAL USER FEES FOR THOSE FACILITIES? JUST A RHETORICAL QUESTION.
MAYBE SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP IN SOME DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
MY KIDS NEVER PLAYED AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S FACILITIES, BUT I'M STILL PAYING LOTS OF TAXES FOR THOSE FACILITIES.
THE ONLY REAL REPORT I HAVE IS TO SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU.
I HOPE IT'S A VERY PEACEFUL AND JOYOUS SEASON FOR YOU, AND I'LL SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.
>> THOUGHT YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY YOUR TIE AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD HERE, CLOSING.
[MUSIC] [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S ALL, FOLKS.
[LAUGHTER] NOBODY'S LEFT, BUT EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW.
WE TRY TO HAVE A TIE CONTEST, AND SO MR. BAIRD ALWAYS WINS TO MUSICAL ONE AND I ALWAYS HAVE, I THINK THE MORE FUNNEL-LOOKING ONE.
IF THE TOWN MANAGER WILL STAND UP.
>> I THINK HE MAY WIN THIS YEAR.
>> SINCE HE'S A ROOKIE, YOU GOT TO GIVE IT TO HIM.
[TOWN MANAGER]
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW I COULD POSSIBLY TOP THE TOWN ATTORNEY, BUT [LAUGHTER] I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY.
I'M JUST GOING TO REPORT OUT ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS REAL QUICK.
WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION TODAY FROM THE PROJECT TEAM ON THE US 1 BRIDGE THAT THE NAVIGATION CHANNEL UNDER THE BRIDGE WILL BE CLOSED TO ALL BOAT TRAFFIC THIS FRIDAY, DECEMBER 20TH FROM 8:00 AM UNTIL 6:00 PM.
THE CLOSURE IS TO ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE GIRDERS ON THE BRIDGE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND CONGRATULATE DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF STEVE SHAW AND EMS DIVISION CHIEF TIM ROCHE, FOR BOTH OF WHOM RECENTLY RECEIVED THE DONALD D. BETRILLO PARAMEDIC LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FROM THE BROWARD COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION.
THIS AWARD RECOGNIZES CHIEF SHAW'S AND CHIEF ROCHE'S EXTRAORDINARY ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE EMS FIELD DURING THEIR CAREERS AND IS A TESTAMENT TO THE DEDICATED AND ACCOMPLISHED STAFF THAT HAVE JOINED THE JUPITER FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.
ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE TWO OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE REACHED SOME SIGNIFICANT MILESTONES IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT WITH THE TOWN LAST WEEK.
GARY SHARPLES, WHO WORKS AT THE WATER PLANT CELEBRATED 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE TOWN, AND TOMORROW JERRY CATO, WHO ALSO WORKS IN PUBLIC WORKS, WILL CELEBRATE 35 YEARS WITH THE TOWN.
GARY AND JERRY ARE TWO OF MORE THAN 100 EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE WORKED FOR THE TOWN FOR 20 YEARS OR MORE.
WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY MORE THAN ONCE, [NOISE] I THINK SPEAKS VOLUMES OF THE DEDICATION OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
FINALLY, I CONCUR WITH WHAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY SAYS.
I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR.
2025 PROMISES TO BE AN EXCITING YEAR FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER AS WE CELEBRATE THE TOWN'S 100TH BIRTHDAY, AND WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR AS WELL. THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL START THE OTHER. COUNCILOR MAY.
[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]
WE GOT TO TOUR THE US 1 BRIDGE.
VERY ENCOURAGED WITH THE PROGRESS THAT THEY'VE MADE SO FAR AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME TRAFFIC MOVING OVER IT HERE SHORTLY.
THEY WON'T PROVIDE A HARD DATE, BUT I CAN SAY WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL BE VERY SOON.
I HAD A REQUEST COME THROUGH FROM CONGRESSMAN MAST'S OFFICE ASKING IF WE CAN GET A PROCLAMATION FOR RECOGNIZING THE LOXAHATCHEE BATTLEFIELD REENACTMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE IN JANUARY.
[02:25:05]
I THINK THE COUNTY IS GOING TO DO ONE, BUT I THINK BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO RECOGNIZE THAT.IT'LL BE TAKING PLACE ON JANUARY 25TH OF 2025.
IT'S SIGNIFICANCE TO US WITH FORT JUPITER BEING IN PENNOCK POINT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'D BE COOL IF WE COULD HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR THAT.
OTHER THAN THAT, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HANUKKAH, ALL THE THINGS TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE, AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAS A HEALTHY AND SAFE HOLIDAY.
>> KEEPING IT SHORT. HAPPY, MERRY, EVERYTHING.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK ITEMS. JUST TO CLOSE ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, KNOWING HOW SCHOOLS WORK, AS WE ALL DO, THERE ARE SOME INCREMENTAL COSTS TO ALLOW THE FACILITY TO BE USED AFTER HOURS.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE.
RESIDENTS USED THE RESTROOMS AND WHATEVER, SO IT'S NOT WITHOUT COSTS.
I REALLY MUCH GREATLY APPRECIATE JTAA STEPPING UP BECAUSE WHEN WE DID GET THE AGREEMENT, WE WERE DOING IT ON BEHALF OF JTAA BUT WE DIDN'T END UP GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THAT.
I APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT IT'S STILL PAID OFF BECAUSE IF JTAA WAS WILLING TO COVER THE COST WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY SO THAT IT'S LOWER COST ON THE KIDS, THEN THERE'S SOME VALUE IN PURSUING THAT.
THAT'S WHERE YOU SHARING THAT HELPS US, IF YOU WILL, THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO BE BRIEF TO GET DONE.
SNOW PLACE LIKE JUPITER BECAUSE IT HAPPENED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, WE ALL THOUGHT IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE EVENT.
IT GETS BETTER AND BETTER EVERY YEAR.
STAFF PUTS A LOT OF TIME INTO THAT.
SO MANY SMALL-TOWN MEMORIES WERE BEING CREATED WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE.
I REALLY JUST WANTED, IN CLOSING, TO THANK YOU STAFF FOR DOING THAT.
WE MAY HAVE COME UP WITH THE EVENT, BUT THEY TAKE IT THE NEXT STEP EVERY YEAR.
THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
THEN THE NEXT NIGHT, YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE HAVE A BOAT PARADE.
THEN THE NEXT NIGHT, WE HAVE THE JUPITER JTAA PARADE.
OH MY GOSH, ISN'T THAT SPECIAL? IT WAS 3,300 PARTICIPANTS IN THE PARADE AND THERE WAS MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALONG THE ROUTE.
MY WIFE AND I HAD 2,000 PIECES, AND WE ONLY GAVE IT TO THE LITTLE KIDS AND WE RAN OUT.
IT WAS THERE, IN FACT, IF WE LOOK AT THE PARADE DIRECTOR WHO TRIED TO RETIRE A FEW YEARS AGO, NOBODY TOOK HIS JOB AND HE STILL DOES IT, THAT IN HIS WRAP-UP SYNOPSIS, HE TALKED ABOUT THE PARADE HAVING BEEN CREATED BY JTAA 50 YEARS AGO.
WHAT DOES THAT REALLY SAY IS THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE TOWN.
I'VE ASKED TOWN MANAGER AND HE WAS JUMPED ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO IN JANUARY, BRING BACK THOSE THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THAT TO APPROPRIATELY THANK THEM FOR THAT BECAUSE CERTAINLY, WE ALL THINK THAT'S SUCH A SPECIAL PART.
AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY OTHER THAN TO SAY TO EVERYBODY, WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TOMORROW THE NEXT DAY, BUT HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYBODY AND ENJOY WHATEVER TIME OFF YOU HAVE WITH FAMILY AND WHATEVER.
I'LL MOVE DOWN THE DIAS HERE TO COUNCILOR DELANEY.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD ON TO COUNCILOR MAY'S COMMENT ABOUT THE TOUR OF THE BRIDGE TODAY.
AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK, AND THEY'RE PUSHING FOR THAT END-OF-THE-MONTH DATE.
I HOPE THEY GET THERE. A LOT OF VARIABLES, BUT WE'LL SEE.
MAY I HAVE A CHRISTMAS PROPOSITION, IF YOU'D INDULGE ME.
AS WE CLOSE OUT THE FINAL MEETING OF THE YEAR AND WE ALL GET READY TO TAKE SOME TIME OFF TO SPEND THE HOLIDAYS WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY, WE SHOULD REFLECT ALL THAT THE TOWN HAS ACCOMPLISHED IN 2024.
THE AMOUNT OF HARD WORK, DEDICATION, AND TEAMWORK EXHIBITED BY TOWN EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.
WHETHER IT'S FINISHING AN IMPORTANT PROJECT THAT ADDS VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY OR JUST PROVIDING THAT EXCELLENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE'VE ALL COME TO EXPECT ON A DAILY BASIS.
[02:30:03]
IT ALL CONTRIBUTES TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE ALL ENJOY IN JUPITER.TO THAT END, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE DO OUR OWN VERSION OF "GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN", EXCEPT IN OUR CASE, IT'S NOT DUE TO BUDGETARY ISSUES.
RATHER, IT'S TO CELEBRATE AND ALLOW OUR EMPLOYEES SOME EXTRA TIME TO REST AND ENJOY THE TIME WITH THEIR LOVED ONES.
THE TOWN IS CLOSED FOR DECEMBER 24TH AND 25TH FOR THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS.
LET'S EXTEND THIS TOWN GOVERNMENT HOLIDAY CLOSURE FOR ONE MORE DAY TO INCLUDE DECEMBER 26TH.
NOW, SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE CONSIDERED "CRITICAL" AND SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS ARE OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
TO THESE EMPLOYEES, I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHEN I SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE FOR BEING AWAY FROM YOUR LOVED ONES ON THE HOLIDAY SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE POLICIES IN PLACE THAT ALLOW THOSE CRITICAL PERSONNELS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF WHEN THE REST OF THE TOWN CLOSES FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
I TRUST THAT THOSE POLICIES CAN BE APPLIED TO THIS ONE-TIME SITUATION SO THAT EVERYBODY IS COMPENSATED APPROPRIATELY.
IF MY TOWN COLLEAGUES AGREE, TOWN MANAGER FRANK KITZEROW WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO EMPLOYEES AND WORK TO MAKE THE NECESSARY ADMINISTRATIVE ARRANGEMENTS.
BASICALLY, LET'S GIVE EVERYBODY THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS OFF.
>> WHAT GETS DONE THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS, ANYWAY?
>> THEY DESERVE IT. IT'S BEEN A LONG [OVERLAPPING]
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND I WILL BE SURE TO SEND THAT OUT, ALTHOUGH I SUSPECT THAT BY THE TIME I GET IN THE OFFICE IN THE MORNING, THIS WILL HAVE SPREAD ALL OVER THE PLACE.
[LAUGHTER] BUT I'LL DO MY BEST TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD US UP FROM LEAVING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> VERY QUICKLY. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BACK ON THE 100-PLUS EMPLOYEES THAT ARE 20 YEARS HERE.
NOW, OUR TOWN MANAGER CLAIMED IN GOOD REASON THAT IT WAS DEDICATION BY THE EMPLOYEES.
BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS.
IT'S ALSO A GREAT WORK ENVIRONMENT.
OUR TOWN'S A REALLY COOL PLACE AND NO SMALL PART FROM OUR INCREDIBLE STAFF AND THE CAPTAIN OF THE TEAM.
I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT YOU DO FOR US ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS AND WHAT THE STAFF IN GENERAL DOES FOR US.
EVERY TIME WE ASK THEM TO DO ANYTHING, THEY DO THE EXTRA MILE.
THEY CREATE INCREDIBLE PRESENTATIONS, VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, INCREDIBLY WELL-RESEARCHED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS. HAPPY HANUKKAH, EVERYONE.
>> THE TIME IS NOW 9:32. I'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.