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>> GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 6:30,

[Call to Order]

AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL BUDGET WORKSHOP OF WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 14TH.

MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?

>> MAYOR KURETSKI?

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR SUNDSTROM.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILOR DELANEY. COUNCILOR FORE.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILOR MAY.

>> HERE.

>> TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW.

>> HERE.

>> TOWN ATTORNEY BAIRD.

>> WE BEGIN. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?

>> NO, MAYOR.

[1. Discussion of the Proposed Operating Budget for Fiscal Year 2025 and the Proposed Community Investment Program (CIP) Budget for Fiscal Years 2025 - 2029.]

>> SEEING NONE. MOVING ON TO THE SINGLE AGENDA ITEM WE HAVE IN THE WORKSHOP.

I TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR DISCUSSION OF THE OPERATING BUDGET, FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 IN THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEARS '25-'29.

AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, WANT TO PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT NORMAL PRACTICES IS THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS MET INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE TOWN MANAGER AND HIS STAFF TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED TONIGHT.

AT THAT TIME, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE COMMENTS AND I'M SURE EACH OF US DID.

TONIGHT'S A WRAP UP IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT COME UP TO MIND OR WHATEVER, BUT JUST SO THAT COMMENT THE PUBLIC KNOWS IF YOU DON'T HEAR MANY COMMENTS IS BECAUSE MAYBE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED.

WITH THAT, I TURN IT OVER TO STAFF.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, SCOTT REYNOLDS, OF THE FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

THIS EVENING, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR FY25 OPERATING BUDGET UPDATES AND ALSO THE CIP.

ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THE CIP, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE CIP IS A PLANNING DOCUMENT OVER A FIVE-YEAR WINDOW.

WE'RE LOOKING OUT OVER FIVE YEARS.

THE COUNCIL WILL ACTUALLY BE ADOPTING FY 25 AS THEIR BUDGET.

LOOKING FORWARD IS A PLAN, AND IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME, YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE PLANS CHANGE OVER TIME, BASED ON WHAT THE COUNCIL WISHES AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY BRINGS TO OUR ATTENTION OR THINGS INITIATIVES THAT STAFF BRINGS FORWARD.

JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF BIG NUMBERS HERE.

BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY CONCENTRATING IS FY 25, AND THEN LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE ON WHAT SOME POSSIBLE IMPACTS MAY BE GOING FORWARD.

FOR THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING, AND I'LL TRY TO MOVE IT ALONG, JUST THE UPDATES FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET.

LOOKING AT THE TOTAL FOR THE CIP IN A SUMMARY FORMAT, THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM FUNDING STRATEGIES, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE FUNDS.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME NEW PROJECTS, ANY INCREASES THAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE PLANNING WINDOW.

ALSO, TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX FUND.

I'VE PLAN ON SPENDING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THAT, BECAUSE DURING THE COMMERCIAL PAPER DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR US TO BRING SOMETHING BACK IN RELATION TO THE SURTAX FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE.

ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WATER FUNDS, STORMWATER FUND AND THEN END IT WITH A SUMMARY AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE'S BEEN AN ITEM THAT WE'VE PUT ON THE DAIS.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT AN ALTERNATE PROPOSAL FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION RELATING TO PLAYGROUNDS.

THIS ALTERNATE PROPOSAL HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD DUE TO COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM CITIZENS, ALONG AS HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS, THE PLAYGROUNDS, WE'VE WENT INTO LOOKING AT THE OLDEST TO BE TAKEN CARE OF FIRST.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT IS THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE ONES THAT ARE USED THE MOST.

WE LOOKED AT POSSIBLY CHANGING WHICH PROJECTS THAT WE TACKLE FIRST, THAT HAS TO DO WITH AGAIN, COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED ONLINE FROM CITIZENS OR FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM CITIZENS, AND THEN ALSO THE ONES THAT ARE USED THE MOST.

THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO RECEIVE THE MOST IMPACT QUICKLY.

AGAIN, I WANT TO REMIND YOU AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF PLANS THAT THE COMMISSIONS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AS A CRA, WE'RE WAITING FOR THE CRA PLAN, BUT WE'RE ALSO CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE FACILITIES' MASTER PLAN FOR RECREATION.

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WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

I'LL TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

JUST TO UPDATE ON THE OPERATING BUDGET SINCE WE LAST SAW THAT BACK IN JUNE.

THERE'S BEEN AN OVERALL REDUCTION OF $282,000 SINCE JUNE 20TH.

THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THE AD VALOREM TAX COLLECTIONS OF $81,000 SINCE JUNE SINCE WE RECEIVED THE TRIM ON JULY 1ST.

THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN OUR ESTIMATE FOR STATE-SHARED AND HALF-CENT SALES TAX COLLECTIONS, BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY ANTICIPATED.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH ABOUT THE FED INCREASING THEIR INTEREST RATES TO SLOW DOWN SPENDING, SO NOW YOU'RE SEEING SOME OF THOSE RIPPLE THROUGH AS FAR AS A REDUCTION IN THE STATES EVEN ANTICIPATING REDUCTIONS GOING IN THE NEXT YEAR FOR THE SALES TAX.

ALSO, THERE'S BEEN A REDUCTION OF $120,000 RELATED TO A MODIFICATION TO OUR TAKE-HOME VEHICLE POLICY WITHIN THE TOWN.

THERE'S BEEN SOME INCREASES IN EXPENSES DUE TO SALARY AND BENEFIT INCREASES DUE TO CHANGES IN THE FRS CONTRIBUTION RATES, ALSO INSURANCES, AND JUST TO EXPLAIN, AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS AS WE'RE WORKING THE BUDGET THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, STAFF UP IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WERE TRACKING PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIFE EVENTS, THEY CHANGED THEIR INSURANCE OR NEW HIRES THAT ARE BROUGHT ON, ALSO ANY CHANGES THAT COME DOWN FROM THE STATE RELATED TO FRS.

THEN WE MODIFY AND WE MAKE THESE CHANGES AS WE GO ALONG, ESPECIALLY AS WE START CLOSING IN ON THE WINDOW, THE FIRST AND SECOND READING IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN ULTIMATELY ADOPTION SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO OCTOBER 1, WE HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION POSSIBLE LEADING INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS.

THERE'S BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS THERE, NOTHING UNUSUAL. WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR.

THERE WAS A DECREASE IN THE JUPITER FIRE RESCUE OF ABOUT $50,000 THAT WAS DUE TO A REDUNDANCY IN ENTRIES.

WE WENT BACK AND DID A CHECK.

WE DO IT EVERY YEAR, WE GO THROUGH, WE VERIFY SOME OF OUR NUMBERS AND WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A DUAL ENTRY MADE WITHIN THE JUPITER FIRE RESCUE FOR ABOUT $50,000. THERE WAS A REDUCTION THERE.

ALSO, THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN THE OVERALL CONTINGENCY WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

STILL, A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY AMOUNT IS STILL MAINTAINED IN THE OPERATING ACCOUNT, AND NO USE OF RESERVES.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE JUNE 20TH MEETING.

STILL, THERE IS NO NEED TO USE RESERVES TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.

FROM THE WATER FUND, THERE IS A REDUCTION OF $53,000.

PRIMARILY, THAT'S DUE TO THE CHEMICAL COST REDUCTIONS EVERY YEAR, WE BID OUT THOSE CHEMICALS AND THIS YEAR, WE'RE SEEING THAT THERE'S A REDUCTION.

OVERALL $53,000 REDUCTION IN THE FUND, AND THEN THE STORMWATER FUND, THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE OF JUST OVER $24,000 PRIMARILY DUE TO THE SAME THING I SPOKE ABOUT IN THE GENERAL FUND, SALARY AND BENEFITS, FRS, INSURANCE, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WERE SHOWING UP THOSE NUMBERS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS RELATING TO THE OPERATIONS BUDGET? NOW, WE LIKE TO BE PRETTY CLOSE.

[LAUGHTER] FOR THE OVERALL COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PLAN SUMMARY, YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS INCLUDES ALL FUNDS, THE GENERAL FUND, THE WATER, AND STORMWATER.

AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, THE YEAR THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT FOR ADOPTION IS THE FY 2025, BUT WE HAVE A PLANNING WINDOW THAT GOES THROUGH TO 2029.

THE TOTAL FOR OVER THAT PLANNING WINDOW IS $110 MILLION, BUT FOR FY 25, IT'S $22.7 MILLION.

I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PLANNING WINDOW THAT WILL BE MODIFIED.

AGAIN, COULD BE MODIFIED BY THE COUNCIL, THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC OR STAFF INITIATIVES, OR EVEN OUTSIDE INFLUENCES.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OUTSIDE INFLUENCES GOING FORWARD, PRIMARILY FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THAT'S COMING DOWN, THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT NOT ONLY THE TOWN OF JUPITER, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO AFFECT UTILITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WE'RE WAITING ON, THEY'RE IN THE FINAL PHASES OF BEING PREPARED.

WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL, THE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

THAT'LL BE COMING TO THE COUNCIL IN VERY SHORT ORDER, THE CRA PLAN.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER AND THEN THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT.

THAT'S SLATED TO BE NEXT SUMMER, MOST LIKELY.

THAT'S STILL BEING WORKED AS WELL. YES, MAYOR.

>> JUST, AT THIS POINT,

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I WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT WITH REGARD TO IN-PROCESS ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE CRA PLAN.

I THINK THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT WE'VE MADE A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TO MASTER PLAN PARKS AND REC FACILITIES, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON MY NUMBERS HERE, BUT DESPITE THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE THE MASTER PLAN COMPLETED, THE FACT REMAINS THAT BETWEEN CARRYOVER BUDGET AND WHAT WE'VE PLANNED IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, WE GOT $26 MILLION OF ENHANCEMENTS ALREADY PROGRAMMED, NOW THOSE MAY CHANGE, THE SCOPE MAY CHANGE AND THE FUNDING MAY CHANGE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EMPHASIZING THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'VE NEEDED TO DO RESTORATIONS, AND THAT'S IN THE PROGRAM.

AGAIN, WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT, BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.

THEN WITH THAT, JUST TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION TONIGHT AS WE GO FORTH, YOU DID PRESENT ON THE DAIS A CHANGE IN THE PLAYGROUND RESTORATION, AND TO THE DEGREE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT THE STARTING POINT WAS, I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL, BUT I THINK THE CONSENSUS WOULD BE TO GO WITH YOUR AMENDMENT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO COMMENT TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION, WE START WITH THAT.

THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDES EVEN MORE FUNDING, ANOTHER MILLION OR WHATEVER, BUT FINE.

WE'LL, TO AVOID CONFUSION, WE PUT THE OTHER ONE ASIDE. THANK YOU.

I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE ACCEPTING IT AS IT IS, BUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THAT AS BEING IN THE PLAN.

>> YES, SIR. WE WILL BE MODIFYING THAT GOING FORWARD.

UNLESS THERE'S ADDITIONAL COMMENTS COMING FROM THE COUNCILS.

>> JUST TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT TO COMMENT ON.

>> YES, SIR.

>> THAT'S A CONSENSUS. I'M SEEING ALL HEAD NOD.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS YOU JUST POINTED OUT, THERE IS OVER THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW, THE PLANNING WINDOW, AS YOU JUST INDICATED, THAT CAN BE MODIFIED, $26 MILLION, BUT ONE OF THE LARGER ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO POINT OUT IS IN FY 29.

IT MAY CHANGE. IT'S WELL IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE'RE PREPARING FOR IT.

IS OUT OF THE WATER UTILITY IS OVER $12 MILLION COST THAT'S COMING DOWN FROM THE EPA.

IT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

AMANDA IS HERE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT'S OUT IN 2029, AND THE TOWN IS PREPARING FOR OTHER UTILITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND I ALWAYS THINK IN TERMS OF SMALLER UTILITIES.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUILD A BRAND NEW PLANT, WHEREAS WE'RE ADDING JUST A FILTRATION TRAIN, AND I DON'T MEAN TO MINIMIZE THAT BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, OTHER PLACES ARE LOOKING THEY MAY HAVE TO BUILD A BRAND NEW WATER PLANT AND THERE'S NO FUNDING TO GO ALONG WITH THIS.

IT'S A LONG TIME AWAY. IT'S IN 2029.

I THINK SOME THINGS WILL CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AS FAR AS MAYBE THERE MAY BE A FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR AND NOT JUST A LOAN, OR THINGS MAY CHANGE WITHIN THE REGULATION ITSELF.

BUT I DO HAVE AMANDA HERE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

GOING STRAIGHT TO THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THE CIP, WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU HAVE THERE THAT IS NOT INCORPORATED IN HERE, THE ONE THAT SITS BEFORE YOU ON THE DIAS RELATED TO THE PLAYGROUNDS, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN FY 25 TOTAL PROJECT COST OF $9.3 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

YOU CAN SEE GOING FORWARD, THERE IS A SLIGHT DEFICIT THAT WE'RE PROJECTING IN '27 AND '28.

NOT REALLY CONCERNED WITH THAT.

AGAIN, THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN WINDOW.

WE'VE HAD DEFICITS IN THE PAST THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO MODIFY PLANS AND CHANGE UP PLANS TO MAKE UP FOR THOSE DEFICITS, SO I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, THAT IF WE WANTED TO MAKE UP FOR ANYTHING, WE DO HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OF RESERVES IF WE WANTED TO GO THERE.

HOW IS THE PLAN FUNDED? ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW THIS SLIDE IN RELATION TO WHAT IS RESTRICTED AND UNRESTRICTED AS FAR AS THE FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO BE FUNDING THE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THE TOTAL FUNDING FOR THE GENERAL FUND BETWEEN THE FIVE-YEAR OF FY 24, FY 25 FISCAL YEAR IS $9.3 MILLION.

THE FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS MADE UP OF 8.5 MILLION AND UNRESTRICTED FUNDS,

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AND 800,000 AND FUNDING IS RESTRICTED.

YOU CAN SEE THE UNRESTRICTED IS THE AD VALOREM TAXES THAT ARE BEING PROJECTED.

THE CRA LOAN AND INTEREST INCOME, AND THEN AN AMOUNT OF RESERVES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE CIP TO PAY FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

ALSO RESTRICTED, THERE'S GRANT FUNDS AND THEN SURTAX MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SURTAX BECAUSE THE COUNCIL WOULD ASK AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING FOR US TO COME BACK SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT ENDING BALANCE AND THE AVAILABILITY AND HOW IT MAY BEST BE USED.

THERE ARE TWO NEW PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT PORTION OF THE CIP.

ONE IS THE ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK RENOVATIONS.

IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT OF THAT PARK, IT'S WELL OVER 20 YEARS OLD, OR I'M SORRY, IT'S NOW INTO ITS 20TH YEAR.

THERE ARE SEVERAL AMENITIES THAT HAVE REACHED THE END OF LIFE AND NEED REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT.

IF YOU'VE SEEN THE FENCING AROUND THE FACILITY, THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

ALSO THE SKATE RAMPS.

THERE ARE SOME HARD CONCRETE STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED AS WELL.

THAT'S $1.2 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, $575,000 FOR FY 25 IS PROGRAMMED.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE ATHLETIC FIELDS REPAIR AND RENOVATION.

THIS ONE IS A NEW PROGRAM.

IT'S A RENEWAL REPLACEMENT-TYPE PROGRAM FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELDS.

>> IF WE WANTED TO DO ALL THE FIELDS IN A FIVE YEAR WINDOW, THAT WOULD BE AN ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT, AND REALLY WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO GO ABOUT IT THAT WAY BECAUSE WE WANT TO LEAVE THE FIELDS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY ON THEM AS WE'RE REPAIRING OTHER FIELDS SAY AT JCP, WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE FIELDS.

THIS ISN'T JUST REPLACING SOD.

THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE REPLACING THE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERNEATH THE GROUND SUCH AS THE IRRIGATION, ALSO PUTTING IN NEW SOD AND DIRT THAT'S GOING TO BE IN FIELD GRASS.

PRETTY ROBUST PROGRAM.

STAFF IS PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, ABOUT $3.2 MILLION IS WHAT'S PROGRAMMED OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, STARTING WITH $75 THOUSAND IN 2025 FOR THE PLANNING OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT WE'LL GET MORE INTO THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE FACILITIES PLAN WHEN THAT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL AS WELL.

>> JUST, IT MAY BE IN THE DETAIL AND I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK QUICKLY, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS EARMARKED FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELD REPAIRS AND RESTORATION IN 2025 TO THE DEGREE THAT WE WANT TO I JUST LEAVE THAT AS AN OPEN ENDED ASK.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE BEST TIME AND IT PROBABLY VARIES ON WHICH FIELD IT IS.

BUT I WOULD HATE TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2025, NOT HAVING BEGUN SOME RESTORATION.

>> WELL.

>> IF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT, FINE.

BUT IF IT CAN BE DONE FROM PROJECT MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT AND IT FITS THE BEST TIMES TO DO IT.

I JUST I BELIEVE THAT AS AN ASK THAT STAFF CAN GET BACK WITH US.

AGAIN, ALSO, THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN WILL BE COMING BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL, SO THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE MASTER PLAN TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS.

>> I UNDERSTAND. BUT RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX WE KNOW IT'S BEEN 30 YEARS FOR THE FIELDS AND THEY'RE IN SAD SHAPE, AND WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE MANY YEARS.

BUT JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN MAYBE EMBARK ON THAT, DOING IT, START TO DO SOME OF THEM IN 2025.

WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S FUNDING THERE FOR THAT.

>> YES, SIR. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

>> MAYOR, I HAD ASKED IN MY INDIVIDUAL MEETING THAT WE PROBABLY START WITH JUPITER VILLAGE PARK.

IT'S ONE OF OUR SMALLER FIELD AREAS AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST NEEDED TO BE REDONE.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I'D ASK TO IS WITH THIS, LOOKING INTO UPGRADING THE RESTROOM FACILITIES AT THAT PARK AS WELL. THEY'RE VERY SMALL.

THEY JUST DEFINITELY NEED SOME UPDATING ON THAT.

I HAD ASKED WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, IF WE COULD JUST START LOOKING AT JUPITER VILLAGE PARK AS THE ONE TO START WITH SO.

>> I'M SORRY, AM, WHICH PARK WAS THAT?

>> JUPITER VILLAGE.

>> OURS, THIS LINE ITEM THAT I WAS SPEAKING TO IS JUST THE FUEL REPAIRS AND RENOVATION.

THEN THAT'S OTHER RENOVATIONS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF I DON'T DISAGREE.

>> JUST THE RESTROOM WOULD BE JUST AN ADD ON, BUT AS FAR AS THE TURF GOES FOR THAT PARK, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST, THIS ONE OF THE OLDEST IN THE TOWN, SO.

>> I WAS WITHHOLDING ANY JUDGMENT ON WHICH PARK FIRST, LET'S GET GOING ON IT.

>> THERE WAS A SUGGESTION BY COUNCILOR MAY THE LAST TIME WE MET THAT I THOUGHT WAS GOOD LIGHTNING DETECTION SYSTEMS. MAYBE WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING THOSE IN

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2025 THAT PRICE SHOULD BE A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN REPLACING SOD.

>> THEY'RE, SOMEBODY HAD BROUGHT AMOUNT THERE COST WISE, IT'S NOMINAL IN MY OPINION TO ADD THOSE IN. I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING.

>> I DO HAVE AN UPDATE ABOUT THE LIGHTNING DETECTION SYSTEM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

BECAUSE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT JUST REAL QUICK.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

I KNOW YOU'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.

>> I THOMAS FERNANDEZ, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING OF PUBLIC WORKS.

THOSE SYSTEMS TEND TO COST ABOUT $25,000 PIECE FROM THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD BUDGETED THEM WHEN THEY WERE WITH, WHEN I SAY WE DID IT FOR JCP AS WELL AS ACP.

I HAD ASSISTED PARKS AND RECREATION WITH THAT AND THE PAST FOR BUDGETING THOSE.

IT'S TO MY RECOLLECTION, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THEM AT ACP.

WE ALSO HAVE ONE AT JCP.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY OTHER PARKS CURRENTLY THAT HAVE THEM OTHERWISE.

>> I THINK, YOU COULD PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH BETWEEN MAPLEWOOD AND JUPITER VILLAGE, YOU COULD PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH ONE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE PROXIMITY.

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IT FROM MAPLEWOOD OR JUPITER VILLAGE.

ONCE YOU HEAR IT AT ONE PARK, I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY SAVE COST THERE, JUST PUT ONE IN THAT AREA, AND THEN LOOKING OVER AT LIGHTHOUSE PARK.

IF WE COULD AT LEAST MAYBE LOOK AT TWO, SINCE ACP AND JCP ALREADY HAVE THEM.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME, COUNSEL FOR.

>> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA.

>> GOOD EVENING, KRISTIN GEORGE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THORGARD, WHO IS THE SUPPLIER FOR OUR CURRENT LIGHTNING DETECTION SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE AT JCP AND ACP TO GET FULL TOTAL COST, OF WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR ONE UNIT TO SUPPLY MAPLEWOOD AND JUPITER VILLAGE PARK, AND THEN ALSO FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE AT LIGHTHOUSE PARK.

WE'RE JUST WAITING ON SOME FINAL FIGURES ON THAT AND WE CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU LIKELY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK ON THAT.

>> IS THAT A ONE TIME FEE OR IS THERE A MONITORING FEE THAT GOES?

>> THE ONE TIME FEE IS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE LIKE THOMAS SAID, IT'S ABOUT A $25 THOUSAND PER UNIT FEE.

THEN THERE'S MINIMAL COST ABOUT A $1,500 COST ANNUALLY THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SYSTEM.

>> WHAT'S THE LEAD TIME ON THESE SYSTEMS?

>> NOT LONG, I THINK. THEY HAVE PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN STOCK WHEN WE'VE BUILT THEM IN THE PAST, IT'S VERY QUICK TURNAROUND FROM START TO FINISH ON THOSE PROJECTS.

THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO FAST TRACK FOR THE 2025 SLOT.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO IN 2025.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'VE MADE NOTE OF THOSE TWO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE INCREASES AND DECREASES GOING FORWARD.

AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT IN REGARDS TO THE FUNDING OF THE PROGRAM, YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO BE ADOPTING THE FY 25 CIP, THAT LOOKING FORWARD TO 29, THAT'S A PLAN AND IT CAN BE MODIFIED GOING FORWARD.

BUT WE ALWAYS DO A COMPARISON BETWEEN WHAT YOU SAW LAST YEAR AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THIS YEAR FOR THOSE FUNDING WINDOWS.

YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE'S BEEN A $1.3 MILLION INCREASE IN THE CIP FOR FY 25.

AGAIN, THAT IS NOT INCORPORATING THE NUMBER OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN FRONT OF YOU RELATING TO THE PLAYGROUNDS, BUT WE STILL FEEL THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASH FLOW BASED ON THAT NEW PROPOSAL, WE'RE STILL WITHIN THE FUNDING WINDOW WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING RELATING TO INCREASES AND DECREASES, THERE'S AN INCREASE FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE FACILITY.

THAT IS A LEGACY PROJECT THAT HAS NOW HAD SOME INCREASES DUE TO ADDITIONS OUT AT THE FACILITY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN WHAT'S CALLED A WELL, WE'RE CALLING IT THE POLE BARN, BUT IT'S MORE OF AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.

[LAUGHTER] WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT TODAY.

BUT ENCLOSED STRUCTURE FOR STORAGE OF VEHICLES.

ALSO A PUBLIC WORKS STORAGE BUILDING THAT'S BEEN PLANNED.

BUT NOW WE'RE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS. ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH DIESEL FUEL.

OUR DIESEL FUEL TANK IS VERY SMALL.

WE DO NEED TO UPGRADE OUR DIESEL TANK.

THAT IS IN RELATION TO FIRE.

THE FIRE TRUCKS, THEY DO REQUIRE THE DIESEL,

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SO WE HAVE TO UPDATE OUR STORAGE.

ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT TO IS THE INDIAN TOWN ROAD WESTERN CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS, $4.8 MILLION INCREASE.

THAT'S A BRAND NEW IT'S NOT REALLY A NEW PROGRAM, BUT IT'S AN INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.

THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO THE LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION THAT WE RECEIVED $2.4 MILLION.

IT IS A MATCHING PROGRAM, IS WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING.

THE TOWN WILL HAVE TO PARTICIPATE WITH $2.4 MILLION, BUT IT'S A GOOD CIP IN THE FUTURE.

ALSO, THE SALFISH PARK SEA WALL REPAIR.

THERE'S AN INCREASE OF $1.5 MILLION DUE TO THE INCREASE IN SCOPE AND A FULL REPLACEMENT OF THAT SEA WALL ALONG THE PARK.

THEN THE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS, WE DID TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE INCREASES THERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THE NEW CIP SHEET THAT WE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU.

>> CAN I ON THAT PAGE?

>> SURE.

>> MY COLLEAGUES KNOW, I'VE BECAUSE I SAID IN COMMENT AFTER WE MET, I SAID IN COMMENTS SEPARATELY AND I'M LOOKING TO GET WHAT STAFF ON THE STREET RESURFACING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCOPE CHANGE FROM LAST YEAR'S FIVE YEAR PLAN IS VALID.

I'M NOT YES YET COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN DECREASE THE BUDGET.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AND I APPRECIATE MR. REYNOLDS, THAT YOU EMPHASIZE THAT WE'RE REALLY ADOPTING THE 25 PORTION OF THE CIP.

HOWEVER, THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IS EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT THE PLAN AT THAT SCALE.

BY THE WAY, KUDOS TO STAFF, THE TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF FOR THE SIGNIFICANT STEP UP IN DEFINITION BY YEAR, IN SERVICE STATE AND ALL THAT SCHEDULING.

I MEAN, I'M THRILLED THAT'S NEEDED.

BUT JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO KNOW AND STAFF STREET RESURFACING, EACH ONE OF US, I'M SURE, GET ASKED FROM THE PUBLIC, WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE DONE.

FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY HAD ASKED ME SOME MONTHS BACK ON IN NEW HAVEN ON WHEN ARE THEY FINALLY GOING TO GET THEIR STREET RESURFACED? WELL, I GO TO THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, AND I READ OUT OF THAT, AND I EXPLAIN TO THEM, YOU'RE IN THE PLAN HERE, AND NOW IT WAS MOVED OUT.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE DEFINITION.

BUT THEN WHEN THAT DEFINITION CHANGED, I JUST WANT MY COLLEAGUES TO KNOW, I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN AND I'VE ASKED.

I WANT TO WHY DID IT CHANGE SO DIFFERENTLY.

I UNDERSTAND WHO WAS ANSWERED THAT SOME OF THAT IS COORDINATION WITH STORM WATER, SO THAT THAT WORK IS COORDINATED, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT NONETHELESS, THERE'S BEEN THERE WERE SO MANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ON THAT ONE THAT I'M GOING TO GET TOGETHER BEFORE THE NEXT FIRST HEARING ON THIS AND MAKE SURE I'M CONVINCED OR BRING BACK CHANGES THAT I MAY FEEL IS NECESSARY.

I CONFIDENCE STAFF, BUT.

THAT WAS ONE WHERE [INAUDIBLE] IF ANY ONE OF US USE WHAT WAS ON THERE LIKE I DID, I HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE THINGS CHANGED.

DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING VICE MAYOR?

>> I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE AS WELL ON A DIFFERENT PROJECT, BUT I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE TIMELINES, THE SERVICE DATE, AND JUST BEING AS REALISTIC AS POSSIBLE ABOUT WHAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED YEAR AFTER YEAR.

I KNOW THAT YOU'VE TAKEN A REALLY HARD LOOK AT THAT.

I KNOW THE KAFIR AT THE END OF THE KAFIR ACTUALLY MENTIONS THE NUMBER OF MILES PAVED EVERY YEAR BY THE TOWN.

JUST LOOKING WITH ALL THAT WE HAVE ON TAP, WHAT WE CAN REASONABLY ACCOMPLISH EACH YEAR AND KEEPING IT REALISTIC IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR MANAGING EXPECTATIONS ON OUR PART AND ON THE COMMUNITY'S PART. THANK YOU.

>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS WE LOOK AT THE CIPS AND WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS AS WE PROGRAM THESE DOLLARS, THE COUNCIL APPROVES THEM, WE HAVE THEM SITTING IN THE CIP, AND THEN THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ALL THIS WORK DONE, AND SOME OF THAT CARRIES OVER INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

THE STREET RESURFACING IS ONE OF THEM, THAT HAS TO DO WITH PROJECTS BE TIMING, AND ALSO IT'S ON AVAILABILITY OF CASH.

THIS PAST YEAR, WE DID HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OF CASH.

IS JUST THE TIMING OF WHEN THOSE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE PAVED.

I KNOW THE PUBLIC SPECIFICALLY HAS EXPECTATIONS.

I SAW MY ROAD ON THERE, I'M GOING TO GET A PAVE NEXT YEAR.

THERE IS THAT EXPECTATION.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SETTING THAT TONE AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD OF WHAT WE REALISTICALLY CAN GET DONE IN A YEAR. THERE'S SOME TOO.

>> AGAIN, JUST TO EMPHASIZE, I EMPHASIZE,

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HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY ON STAFF HERE HEARD KUDOS BECAUSE I KNOW THE TOWN MANAGER HAS BEEN REALLY PUSHING THAT.

WOW, YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF PLANNING, AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

WHATEVER IT WAS LAST YEAR, WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE.

BUT NONETHELESS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THAT CASE, SINCE WE WERE DECREASING FUNDING, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT LIVING OUR SELF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE ROADS WERE MOVED OUT.

THEN JUST TWO OTHER SMALL ONES IN THIS PAGE, BUT WHILE I WHEN WE MET, I AGREED WITH THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE REDUCTION BECAUSE THE PUBLIC OVER THERE DIDN'T WANT IT.

BUT IS THERE A PROJECT TO REPLACE REPAIR, WHAT'S THERE IN KIND? BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, IT'S IN REALLY POOR SHAPE, AND STAFF CAN GET BACK WAS BEYOND THAT ONE.

>> SURE. [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE GOT E MAILS RECENTLY ABOUT THAT, AND I DON'T GO DOWN THAT AREA, BUT IF IT REALLY IS IN POOR SHAPE, IT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE WAS A PROJECT A FEW YEARS AGO FOR THE NORTHERN SIDE.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> THAT THE CITIZENS HAD INDICATED THAT THEY DID NOT WANT.

THIS WAS A PROGRAMMED IN PROJECT TO REPLACE THE ASPHALT PATHWAYS THAT ARE ALONG RIVERSIDE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS LOOK AT ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN THE TOWN AT THIS POINT.

>> UNDERSTAND. I JUST TO DEGREE I WAS GOING THROUGH SOME OLD E MAILS TODAY AND I SAW MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ASKING ABOUT THAT.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT

>> WELL, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW IS YOU HAVE SO MANY NEW HOUSES BEING CONSTRUCTED AND THEY'RE JUST RIPPING UP THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THAT HOUSE.

I TOLD STAFF, I CAN TELL THAT CONSTRUCTION SLOWS DOWN.

I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANY MONEY UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM THESE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES.

THEY'RE TO REPLACE WHAT THEY RIP UP.

BUT IT IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF COMPLETE REPLACEMENT.

BUT THERE'S ARE SECTIONS RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING THESE HOUSES.

>> TO THAT POINT, I DO GO DOWN RIVERSIDE A LOT.

I LIVE ON RIVERSIDE.

THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE GOES THROUGH MY PROPERTY.

IT'S ALL MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY NEXT TO ME, AND IT IS A BAD SHAPE.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, COUNSEL, THE LIABILITIES ON ANY NEW HOMEOWNER.

IF THEY DO ANY CONSTRUCTION AND DAMAGE WHAT WE'VE DONE, THEY HAVE TO FIX IT.

THAT'S OUR PROPERTY. THAT'S THE TOWN'S PROPERTY.

ANYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE IN THERE, AND THE BIG DRIVER OR WHY ALL THERE'S A HODGE PODGE OF SECTIONS WHEN SOMEBODY BUILD SOMETHING NEW, THEY'RE TEARING OUT THE OLD CRUSTY ASPHALT.

THEY'RE PUTTING IN BRAND NEW CONCRETE.

IT'S NOT REALLY THAT THEY'RE FIXING STUFF THAT'S BEING DAMAGED.

THEY'RE JUST FIXING STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

IT DOES DEFINITELY LEND ITSELF TO A LITTLE HIGHER PRIORITY, I THINK, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME VERY DANGEROUS SPOTS IN THERE WHERE THE TREES HAVE RUPTURED THROUGH AND IT'S SOMEWHAT IMPASSABLE ON BICYCLES NOW.

RIVERSIDE IS NOT A STREET YOU WANT TO GO OUT INTO IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP THAT IN A LITTLE TIGHTER TIME FRAME IF WE COULD, PLEASE.

>> THAT WORK IS UNDER CAPTION OF A GENERIC ITEM FUNDED BECAUSE IT'S ONGOING.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SINGLE THAT ONE OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING LOOKED AT.

THEN JUST LASTLY ON THE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS, AND I KNOW WE PROBABLY HAVE ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I KNOW WE'RE ADDING SUNSHADES, WHICH ARE A NEEDED FEATURE, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE HURRICANE TAKEDOWN AND REINSTALL MAN HOURS TO DO THAT.

>> WE'RE ADDING A COUPLE AND WE'LL DO THAT, BUT IT CAN ADD UP.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AWARE AND PLANNING FOR THAT.

IF WE WIND UP HAVING THREE OR FOUR HURRICANES IN A SEASON, AGAIN, ONE OR TWO SHADES BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ONES WE JUST INSTALLED IN EAST VIEW MANOR LET'S TAKE THEM DOWN, PUT THEM UP AND TRY THEM OUT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE BUYING ONES THAT WERE EASILY DONE.

I WAS DELIGHTED THAT WE REDUCED PUBLIC WORKS WORK ON PUTTING UP SHUTTERS ON TOWN HALL.

NOW THEY MAY BE ALL REDEPLOYED ON PUTTING UP AND TAKEN DOWN AND REINSTALLING SUNSHADES.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT FROM A RESOURCE STANDPOINT.

JUST DOESN'T FALL ON PUBLIC WORKS, AND THAT'S A LONGER TERM THING.

BUT IT'S JUST A ASK, AS WE ADD THESE, WE CAN BE MINDFUL OF THAT IMPACT.

>> I WOULD SECOND THAT. I HAVE A LOT TO SAY ON PLAYGROUNDS, BUT I'M SAVING COMMENTS FOR THE END.

A LOT OF OUR PARKS HAVE TREES.

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AS YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLANS FOR EACH OF THE PLAYGROUND UPGRADES, WHERE THERE ARE SEVERAL TREES, LIKE AN INDIAN CREEK PARK.

IT MAKES SENSE TO KEEP THEM AND NOT ADD SHADE SALES.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EVERY PLAYGROUND THAT HAS THOSE, AND TREES ARE THE MOST SUSTAINABLE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PARKS THAT HAVE THEM, BUT I ABSOLUTELY THINK IT'S WORTH GOING IN WITH EYES WIDE OPEN ON THESE BECAUSE ALTON PLAYGROUND, FOR EXAMPLE, IS VERY POPULAR WITH A LOT OF FAMILIES, AND THEY HAD TO TAKE DOWN THEIR SHADE SALES FOR MAINTENANCE ISSUES.

WE JUST NEED TO BE AWARE OF STAFF TIME ON THAT. THANK YOU.

>> VERY GOOD. MOVING ON TO SURTAX FUNDING.

WE ALWAYS SHOW THIS SLIDE EVERY YEAR TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRESS OF WHERE WE ARE IN RELATION TO THE CASH FLOW, THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTED WITH THE USE OF SURTAX FUNDING, LIKE THE NEW PD DATA CENTER.

WE USE 12.5 MILLION DOLLAR OF THE SURTAX, THE NEW TOWN HALL BUILDING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY STANDING IN.

$9,000,000 OF THAT, $3,000,000 WAS IN CASH, $6,000,000 WAS AN ACTUAL LOAN THAT IS DUE BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND OVER A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS.

WE'VE ALSO PROGRAMMED IN INTO THE FUTURE CASH FLOW FOR THE SOUTHERN EXTENSION OF ISLAND WAY, THE ROGER DEAN STADIUM QADFIELD LIGHTING.

WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THAT LAST YEAR.

DURING THE COMMERCIAL PAPER DISCUSSION, WE'D INDICATED THERE WAS 6.5 MILLION DOLLAR REMAINING AVAILABLE AT THE END OF THE SURTAX WINDOW, WHICH IS CLOSING IN 2026, THAT'LL BE THE END OF IT.

I ACTUALLY BELIEVE NEXT YEAR IN FY 25, WE WILL HAVE COLLECTED OUR TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S DUE TO THE TOWN.

WE WILL HAVE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN DO WITH HOWEVER WE WISH.

BUT IT WAS ASKED THAT I ANALYZE WE'RE AT WITH THE CASH FLOW AND MAYBE SOME PROJECTS THAT IF WE WANTED TO USE THE 6.5 OR MAYBE EVEN MOVE SOME OF THE FUNDING AROUND WHAT WE COULD USE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS ON.

I QUICKLY LOOKED THROUGH THE CIP AND FOUND SOME PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, SUCH AS THE PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE FACILITY RENOVATIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, WHICH IS JUST OVER $2,000,000.

THESE ARE ALL ADVALORUM FUNDED BY THE WAY, WE'D BE SAVING ADVALORUM DOLLARS.

THE RENOVATIONS, THERE WAS AT THE MARLINS QUAD, THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT THAT ISN'T FUNDED BY THE SURTAX, WHICH WAS $338,000.

INDIAN CREEK PARK RESTROOM BUILDING.

FOR $437,000, AND THEN THE POLICE MEMORIAL THAT'LL BE GOING IN NEXT YEAR.

THERE'S $200,000 IN THE LEGACY PROJECT FOR $200,000 THAT'S SIT THERE JUST OVER $3,000,000.

NOW, ANOTHER OPTION IS IT WON'T MOVE THE CASH FLOW OF THE 6.5 BEING AVAILABLE AT THE END OF LIFE, BUT ANOTHER OPTION IS IS THE BRIDGE LOAN THAT'S SITTING THERE OWED TO THE GENERAL FUND.

LIKE YOU JUST HEARD ME SAY, WE'LL PROBABLY COLLECT ALL OF OUR MONEY NEXT YEAR THAT'S DUE TO THE TAX FUND THROUGH THOSE COLLECTIONS.

IF YOU WANTED TO, WE COULD PAY THAT BRIDGE LOAN OFF EARLY.

TAKE THOSE FUNDS OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND.

IT'LL BE SITTING IN RESERVES.

ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU MOVE IT FROM THE SURTAX FUND OR IF YOU PLACE IT OVER IN THE GENERAL FUND, ANY INTEREST EARNINGS THAT WE'RE EARNING, THOSE FUNDS GO OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND.

THESE ARE CONSIDERED TO BE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS IN THAT RESPECT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING CURRENTLY IS THE $6.5 MILLION THAT WE'RE SHOWING AT THE END OF LIFE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO BE SPENT WOULD BE UTILIZED TO BUY DOWN ANY FUTURE INTEREST THAT WE WOULD BE INCURRING DUE TO THIS NEW STATION CONSTRUCTION.

AS YOU REMEMBER, THE IN THAT WE JUST HAD, $20 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATED BORROWING FOR THE NEW STATIONS.

WE CAN BUY THAT DOWN WITH 6.5 MILLION DOLLAR WORTH OF SURTAX.

IT'S AN ELIGIBLE COST, OR IF YOU WANTED TO MAYBE DO A LESSER AMOUNT.

I JUST THINK THAT GOING FORWARD, IF WE CAN BUY THAT DOWN, THAT'S JUST THAT MUCH INTEREST THAT THE CITIZENS WON'T BE PAYING GOING FORWARD ON THAT LOAN.

YOU'D ASK THAT I TAKE A LOOK AND THIS IS A SLIDE THAT I'VE BROUGHT TO YOU THIS EVENING FOR DISCUSSION.

>> NUMBER 1, TWO ITEMS. ONE IS PAYING OFF THE BRIDGE LOAN FROM THE GENERAL FUND FROM SURTAX MONIES THAT'S ALREADY COLLECTED.

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THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT? THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THEN YOU WOULD BRING BACK TO US?

>> YES. THERE'S ACTUALLY A RESOLUTION THAT DICTATES THE PAYMENT AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO BRING BACK ANOTHER RESOLUTION TO MODIFY THAT.

>> BUT PLEASE DO. I SEEM LIKE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT ONE.

SECOND OF ALL, WITH REGARD TO DEPLOYMENT, YOU'RE EARMARKING WHAT TO USE THE ENDING CASH BALANCE TO, IT DOES SEEM TO ME, PERSONALLY, I DON'T LIKE TYING UP MONEY THAT JUST SITS THERE, I'D RATHER BE HAVING IT ON PROJECTS BEING DONE.

I DO THINK THE RENOVATIONS AT THE QUAD.

I KNOW I THINK I HAD POINTED THAT OUT.

ISN'T THAT IN LIKE '28, '29 TIME PERIOD? I THINK IT'S OUT.

>> WE HAVE A PROGRAM RIGHT NOW IN '25 AND '26.

>>> TO BE DONE?

>> IN '26 TO ACTUALLY START AT WORK, '26.

>> BUT THEN I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I FOR SOME REASON, I WAS THINKING IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PUSHED OUT FURTHER.

WELL, WHAT'S I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES.

WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS LISTED HERE PLUS WHATEVER'S THE BALANCE OF WHATEVER WE CHOOSE GOING TO THE FIRE STATION.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY PARTICULAR PREFERENCES ON THESE SUGGESTED ITEMS FOUR ITEMS?

>> WE'RE NOT RESTRICTED TO THESE, I GUESS, ARE WE?

>> WELL, NO, WE WOULD BE GIVING DIRECTION AND THEN THEY WOULD THEY WOULD EARMARK IT.

BASICALLY, WE HEARD FROM A FINANCE DIRECTOR THAT THESE ARE QUALIFYING USES.

WE JUST HAVE TO GIVE DIRECTION, AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO US.

>> I THINK CLEARLY THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY NEEDS HELP BADLY.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THE LIGHTNING PROTECTION IS A PRETTY GOOD ITEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IS THAT A QUALIFIABLE USE OF THAT FUND?

>> THE LIGHTNING. NO, SIR.

IT HAS TO BE IT HAS TO BE A FAC CAPITAL ITEM WITH A LIFE EXPECTANCY OVER FIVE YEARS, SO THE BUILDINGS ARE DEFINITELY THEY QUALIFY.

>> I REALIZE WHEN WE DISPLACE GENERAL REVENUES WITH THE SURTAX, AND YOU'RE FREEING UP GENERAL REVENUES.

>> READY TO BE USED. EXACTLY.

>> WAS THERE A CONSENSUS ON THE PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE FACILITY?

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

>> THERE'S A CONSENSUS ON THAT.

I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS.

IS THERE ON THE FIRE STATION, JUST A MATTER OF IF WE ADD ANY OTHER THINGS THAT CONSUMES A 6.5?

>> YES. I'M ONE OF THE FIRE STATION BASIC.

>> YES. I AGREE WITH THAT.

>> INTEREST AVOIDANCE?

>> CORRECT.

>> NO BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

>> TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THE $2,000,000 FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF WHAT'S LEFT WILL BE USED TO BE PROGRAMMED IN WITH THE FIRE ALSO TO PAY OFF THE LOAN, I'LL BRING BACK A RESOLUTION FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> VERY GOOD.

>> I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE, THOSE ARE STILL BEING PROGRAMMED OUT OF GENERAL OPERATING.

LIKE THE POLICE MEMORIAL AND.

>> THOSE ARE IN THE BUDGET.

>> THEY ARE.

>> THEY'RE STILL IN THERE. THIS IS JUST IF WE WANTED TO USE TAX MONEY INSTEAD OF AVALON TAX. THEY'RE STILL IN THERE.

>> BY THE WAY. THE POLICE MEMORIAL, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT, YOU SAID NEXT YEAR.

YOU MEAN FIRST QUARTER OF 25, WHICH IS IN SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER.

>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IS ROGER HERE.

ROGER, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK ON THE SCHEDULE?

>> JUST SO MY COLLEAGUES KNOW, I'D ASK ANYTHING IN THE CURRENT UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, WE OUGHT TO KNOW BY QUARTER, BECAUSE THIS BUSINESS ABOUT G, IT'S NEXT YEAR, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CALENDAR YEAR.

>> TECHNICALLY, IT'S THIS YEAR.

>> BASICALLY, I JUST GOT THE PROPOSAL FROM SOLOMON ASSOCIATES TO DO DESIGN.

I'M WORKING WITH SHANE LUNSFORD OVER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO START DOING SOME SKETCHES WITH THE ARCHITECT AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BEFORE YOU.

WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT PROBABLY THE LATTER PART OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

>> WHAT'S THAT, THE PROJECT DONE?

>> I'M SORRY, THE SECOND QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

>> THE PROJECT DONE?

>> YES, SIR.

>> IS ARE THE SKETCHES PRELIMINARY OR WHAT? NOT YET.

I'M JUST I HAVE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH SOLOMON ASSOCIATES, SO THEY'LL START THE PROCESS.

>> WOULD YOU CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF PUBLIC INPUT?

>> DEFINITELY.

>> THE WAY WE APPROACHED THE ART WAS FANTASTIC HERE AND LOOK WE WE GOT OUT OF IT.

I WONDER IF THE PUBLIC WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AND COME UP WITH IDEAS.

>> CORRECT.

>> OR HOW WE COULD EVEN GO ABOUT MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT IS IN THE PROCESS.

>> THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING.

>> I THOUGHT I HAD SEEN A DESIGN FOR IT, BUT.

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>> BASICALLY, IT WAS THEY WENT OUT FOR RFQ, AND WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS IS THEY COULDN'T FIND THEY FOUND PEOPLE THAT COULD DO THE ARTWORK AND THEY COULD DO THE STATUE.

BUT NONE OF THEM WERE CONTRACTORS THAT COULD ACTUALLY PULL THE PERMIT, DO THE SITE WORK, DO THE ELECTRICAL.

WE'RE HAVING TO GO, WE HAVE TO RE-BET IT AND THEN GET A CONTRACTOR.

THEN WE ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHERE WE HAVE A MEMORIAL WALL, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHERE WE HAVE THE MEMORIAL WALL AND THEN WE'D INTRODUCE A STATUE INTO THE DESIGN.

LOOK AT TWO OPTIONS.

>> YEAH, I THINK YOU CAN PUT A POLICE TOO.

>> THAT MANIFESTS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING WITH SOME OF THESE ROAD SURFACING PROJECTS.

WE CAN PEOPLE TO BID ON CERTAIN PROJECTS. I UNDERSTAND.

WE'RE GETTING NO BIDS AND NO INCENTIVE FOR QUICK WORK.

PEOPLE ARE TURNING THAT DOWN, WE'RE SEEING ON THE BID.

IT'S TOUGH GETTING WORK DONE.

>> IT WAS MORE, THEY WENT AFTER THE ARTISTIC APPROACH AND THEY JUST WEREN'T CONTRACTORS.

NOW WE GET A CONTRACTOR THAT'LL WORK WITH THE ARTIST TO CAPTURE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

>> YOU COULDN'T KNOW THIS, ROGER, BUT I'VE ASKED ABOUT THAT PUSHED AND ASKED ABOUT THAT PROJECT FOREVER.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE DONE IMMINENT ANY DAY.

DISAPPOINTED, BUT UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT.

>> WELL, JUST SO I COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT MAYOR, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE HAD A PLAN PUT TOGETHER FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, AND THEN THE REALITY OF GETTING IT DONE, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN INTERNAL PROJECT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS THEIR MEMORIAL, WHICH IS RIGHTFULLY.

WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS WORKING THROUGH THIS, COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, BRINGING IT BACK TO COUNCIL, INTRODUCE IT TO THE PUBLIC, AND PEOPLE CAN WEIGH IN.

BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CAPTURE WHAT THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE LOOKING FOR IN THEIR MEMORIAL.

YES, I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HAD IT DONE.

WE THOUGHT WE WERE PRETTY CLOSE, BUT THEN THE REALITY OF TURNING SOME, WHAT WE LOOKED AT AS POTENTIAL DESIGN INTO AN ACTUAL MEMORIAL TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF A TURN ON US.

WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND RECREATE THE WHEEL.

I'M SURE WHATEVER WE COME FORWARD WITH IS GOING TO BE QUITE REMARKABLE.

>> THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY MAY HAVE NARROWED DOWN ON THE ART PIECE OF IT, OR IS THAT THE CASE? THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE BALANCE OF THE MEMORIAL.

>> WITHIN THAT $200,000 BUDGET, YOU'RE LOOKING MORE OF A MEMORIAL WALL WITH PLAQUES AND ENGRAVING.

THEY'RE EXPLORING OTHER REVENUE STREAMS, POSSIBLY TO GET THAT STATUE PORTION OF IT AS WELL.

>>OR TELL US, ASK US.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> OR ASK TELL COUNSEL WHAT IT IS AND ASK US, WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR THIS.

>> THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING NEEDED FOR THE STATUS.

>> WE CAN PROVIDE IT.

>> WE WILL GLADLY VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

>> WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THERE'S BEEN THE DELAY IS NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

>> YEAH, WE UNDERSTAND.

>> SOMETIMES, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS POLICE ARE GREAT AT DOING POLICE WORK.

BUT THEN WHEN WE START MOVING INTO THIS WORLD, SOMETIMES WE GET A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, AND SO WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY GET DONE.

CERTAINLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIMIT IT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY NO BECAUSE IT EXCEEDS THE BUDGET IN A YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE WAY.

WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK.

>> I HAD SEEN IN THE PAST AND I WAS PRESUMING THAT IT WAS THE WILL OF THE POLICE OR WHAT I WAS SEEING.

MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

MAYBE IT'S MATURED, BUT I THOUGHT IT INCLUDED AN ART PIECE.

WELL, THEN THERE ISN'T ENOUGH FUNDS AND TELL US HOW MUCH FUNDS WE NEED FOR THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO DOWNSIZE IT FROM WHAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING, PLEASE INVITE US INTO THE PROCESS.

>> I CERTAINLY WILL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR HERE AND WE WANT TO PROPERLY HONOR OUR POLICE.

>> JUST SO YOU ISN'T REALLY WITH DRIVING THAT AT ALL, SO WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU.

>> FOR THE WATER FUND. FOR THE WATER FUND, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT FY25 THAT YOU'LL BE ADOPTING,

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AND THEN WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED OVER THE FIVE-YEAR FUNDING WINDOW, $11.9 MILLION IS BEING REQUESTED IN FY25 FOR A TOTAL OF 13 PROJECTS BEING PROPOSED.

TOTAL FUNDING BEING REQUESTED OVER THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW, THAT'S A TOTAL OF OVER $55 MILLION.

WE FUND THAT THROUGH THE USE OF WATER R&R FUNDS, OFF-SITE FEES, AND THERE'S ALSO SOME GRANT FUNDS IN THERE FROM FEMA THAT IS BEING USED FOR THE PLANT HARDENED SERVER BUILDING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAID EARLIER WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL, IS THE UNFUNDED MANDATE THAT'S COMING DOWN FOR THE PFAS REDUCTIONS.

I REALLY WOULD LIKE AMANDA TO JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT THAT IS FOR THE PUBLIC AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THAT'S IN 2029.

WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT THE UTILITY WE'RE ABLE TO PROGRAM THOSE MONIES LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE.

BUT AGAIN, I ALWAYS THINK IN TERMS OF MAYBE EVEN SMALLER UTILITIES, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SOME OF THEM THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A BRAND NEW PLANT.

THIS IS MORE OF A FILTRATION EXPANSION FOR US, BUT REALLY I WANT AMANDA TO LAY OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

>> WHEN WE SPOKE EARLIER, YOU DESCRIBED IT FAIRLY CLEARLY, IT'S MANDATED BY THE EPA, AND YET THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ANY FUNDING FOR IT.

BUT IT'S ON US, AND WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.

AMANDA BARNES, DIRECTOR UTILITIES.

YES, IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, 2024, EPA REGULATED PFAS, WHICH CONSISTS OF SIX MAN-MADE CHEMICALS.

THE ONES THAT YOU WOULD PREDOMINANTLY HEAR ABOUT ARE PFOA AND PFOS.

THOSE MAN-MADE CHEMICALS WERE PREDOMINANTLY FOUND IN LIKE WATER AND STAIN RESISTANT FABRICS, NON-STICK ITEMS, TEFLON, AND FIREFIGHTING FOAMS. THEY WENT INTO PRODUCTION BACK IN THE 1940S.

IN 2000, EPA BANNED THE USE OF THOSE PRODUCTS OR THOSE CHEMICALS, AND SO SINCE THAT TIME, THEY ARE NOT BEING USED IN THE UNITED STATES ANYWAY.

HOWEVER, THE CHEMICALS, WHETHER INGESTED BY HUMANS OR TOUCHED JUST BY FABRIC ENTERS THE BODY AND DO NOT DEGRADE.

THEY ACCUMULATE OVER TIME, AND THEY'VE BEEN FOUND TO BE IN THE WATER SUPPLY.

IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY, IT'S MUCH MORE PREVALENT TO BE IN THE SURFACE WATER SUPPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES THAT WERE USING THESE MANUFACTURING PRODUCTS.

HERE IN JUPITER, WE HAVE FOUND THAT THEY'RE PRESENT IN THE SURFICIAL [NOISE] AQUIFER.

OUR NANOFILTRATION PLANT, MEMBRANE TREATMENT PLANT COMPLETELY REJECTS THE CHEMICAL, SO THEY ARE NOT IN OUR DRINKING WATER.

HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE AN ION EXCHANGE FACILITY, 1.8 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

IT IS USED AS LAST RESORT, BUT IT IS NECESSARY AS AN EMERGENCY BACKUP TO STABILIZE RO PERMEATE, WHICH IS THE WATER PRODUCED BY THE RO PLANT, THE REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANT.

CURRENTLY, BEFORE THE RULE WAS PROMULGATED OR PUT INTO REGULATION AT A LOW LIMIT OF FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION.

PRIOR TO THAT, THE EXPECTED LEVEL, WHAT THE INDUSTRY WAS EXPECTING AT 10 PARTS PER TRILLION, WE EXPECTED THAT THE ION EXCHANGE FACILITY WOULD BE OKAY.

AT FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE DETECTION LIMIT OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT TESTS FOR PFAS, IT'S FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION.

WE CAN MEET THAT WITH THE ION EXCHANGE FACILITY.

WHEN WE WERE PREPARING THE 2022 WATER MASTER PLAN, IF YOU GO BACK AND READ THAT, PFAS WASN'T REALLY ADDRESSED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE IT AS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

BUT WHAT WE DID CONSIDER IN THE MASTER PLAN WAS THE ION EXCHANGE NOT BEING ABLE TO MEET OTHER REGULATORY POSSIBLE REQUIREMENTS.

WE DID LOOK AT AN OPTION FOR FURTHER TREATING RO PERMEATE TO STABILIZE IT, AND THAT WAS A CALCITE CONTACTOR.

WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR IN 2029, WHICH IS THE YEAR THAT EPA HAS REQUIRED ALL UTILITIES TO MEET THE PFAS REQUIREMENT IS TO CONSTRUCT A CALCITE CONTACTOR FOR THE RO PERMEATE, AND WITH LOSING THE 1.8 MGD OF ION EXCHANGE CAPACITY,

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ADDING THE SIX NANOFILTRATION TRAIN, WHICH THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED AND ALL THE OTHER EQUIPMENT IS ABLE TO HANDLE A SIXTH TRAIN.

WE HAD PLANNED FOR THAT.

BASICALLY, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

WE ARE EVALUATING OTHER OPTIONS FOR REPLACING THE ION EXCHANGE FACILITY.

THERE IS THE OPTION OF USING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RESIN IN THE ION EXCHANGE FACILITY THAT COULD REMOVE PFAS.

HOWEVER, THE COST TO CONSTRUCT THAT, WE'D HAVE TO EXPAND THE FACILITY, THE COST TO OPERATE THAT.

THEN THE DESTRUCTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO FOR DEALING WITH THE USED RESIN IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE.

IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE UTILITY OR OUR CUSTOMERS.

THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THE BUDGET AMOUNT FOR 2029.

IT CONSIDERS CONSTRUCTING THE CALCITE CONTACTOR FOR THE RO PLANT AND THE SIX NANOFILTRATION TRAIN FOR THE NANOPLANT.

IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE THE IN EXCHANGE AND NOT CONSTRUCT THE SIX TRAIN FOR THE NANOPLANT, THAT WOULD REDUCE OUR CAPACITY.

CURRENTLY, OUR RATED CAPACITY IS 30 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

IT WOULD REDUCE IT BY 1.8 MGD.

THERE IS A STATE REQUIREMENT WHEN A WATER UTILITY REACHES 75% OF ITS RATED CAPACITY, THEY HAVE TO GO INTO A STUDY, AN INTENSIVE CAPACITY RATING STUDY AND IT'S BASED ON PEAK DAY, IT'S NOT BASED ON AVERAGE DAY DEMAND.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE TIMES, SPECIFICALLY USUALLY IN MAY, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT 75%, OR LIKE 74.6% OF OUR PRODUCTION IS 75% OF OUR CAPACITY.

IF WE WERE TO JUST ELIMINATE THAT 1.8 MGD ALTOGETHER, IT WOULD DEFINITELY PUT US INTO THE THRESHOLD FOR CONDUCTING THAT INTENSIVE CAPACITY RATING STUDY.

ANY QUESTIONS? SORRY, THAT'S A LOT.

>> I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT JUST A COMMENT ABOUT THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, I THANK YOU FOR THAT EXCELLENT SUMMARY AND ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING THIS, PROACTIVELY GIVING US ESTIMATES AND CASH FLOWS, ETC, ANYTHING MORE YOU COULD DO OTHER THAN THAT.

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE WAY WE SHOULD HANDLE THAT IS NOT YET PUT IT IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

MAYBE WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, CALL IT A PARKING LOT.

BUT WHEN THE EPA OR ANY GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY PROVIDE SOME UNFUNDED MANDATE OF SUCH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE PUBLICLY VETTED EVEN BEFORE.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE, OH, WE JUST PUT IT IN THERE.

THAT'S MORE THAN A THIRD OF ANNUAL WATER BILLS.

JUST THE IMPACT OF THAT.

TO THE DEGREE YOU SHOWED TO CASH FLOW IN '28 AND '29, I FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IT IN, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A KEEN AWARENESS OF THAT, AND WE NEED TO WORK ON TALKING TO LEGISLATORS AND WHATEVER THAT GEE HOW ABOUT SOME FUNDING HERE IF YOU REALLY WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BECAUSE WE CALL THEM OUT.

LOOK, WHAT YOU JUST ARE DOING TO THE CUSTOMER BILL HERE, IT'S RATHER SIGNIFICANT.

BUT WE HAVE TIME. TIME IS SHORT, WE NEED TO MOVE.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE I'M COMFORTABLE IN PUTTING 12.5 MILLION IN '28 AND '29.

LIKE WE'RE ACCEPTING THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND IT.

I JUST SHARE MY PHILOSOPHY ABOUT THAT.

BUT YOU PROVIDED US WITH SUCH GOOD INFORMATION.

THANK YOU, THAT I FEEL WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVEN'T HEARD YOU.

DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT A LOOMING ISSUE.

BUT THE FACT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE STARTING ON IT TODAY OR IN '25 MEANS THAT WE HAVE TIME TO WORK ON THAT.

>> TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME FUNDS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME AVAILABLE.

MR. REYNOLDS POINTED OUT THAT MOST MUNICIPALITIES COULDN'T ABSORB IT.

>> I'M NOT SURE THAT I WOULD BE THAT OPTIMISTIC.

JUST TO CONFIRM THIS, FY29 WILL THE PROJECT NEED TO BE COMPLETED AND COMPLIANT.

>> WE NEED TO BE COMPLIANT BY FY29.

>> FOR THOSE WHO HAVE TO REPLACE THEIR WATER UTILITIES, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SOME IN THIS COUNTY USE MEMBRANE TREATMENT AND OTHERS DO NOT,

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AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT MEMBRANE TREATMENT IS THE ONLY WAY TO RECEIVE IN FLORIDA, AT LEAST WITH ITS WATER TO REMOVE PFAS, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO CREATE A MEMBRANE TREATMENT FACILITY AND BRING IT ONLINE WITH CONSTRUCTION PERMITTING, ALL OF IT BY '29.

>> [OVERLAPPING] UNFUNDED.

>> CAN WE BE WRITING TO OUR OFFICIALS? WE'VE HAD SIMILAR ISSUES RECENTLY WITH QUIET ZONES, BUT WHAT MORE CAN WE DO ON THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE? I'M READY TO GET AGGRESSIVE.

WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT CAN WE WRITE? WHAT CAN WE SAY? THERE WAS A PRESENTATION BROUGHT BEFORE THE WATER RESOURCES TASK FORCE WITH THE COUNTY.

I'VE RECENTLY JOINED THAT COMMITTEE.

THEY SHARE IN THE FRUSTRATION.

WE SHOULD CERTAINLY BE MORE ACTIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS.

YOU'VE MONITORED THIS FOR SO LONG.

JUST FOR ADDITIONAL HISTORY FOR THE BENEFIT OF MY COLLEAGUES, WHEN THE WATER MASTER PLAN WAS BEING DONE, THEY HAD A WHOLE SECTION ON PFAS AND ON THESE FOREVER CHEMICALS.

I REMEMBER SPEAKING WITH DAVID BROWN AT THE TIME THE PRIOR DIRECTOR, AND HE EXPECTED A RULE TO COME ONLINE.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY EXPECTED SOME RULE TO COME ONLINE, BUT NOT AT THIS LEVEL.

AS YOU SAID, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE 10.

SO WHEN THEY LOWERED IT TO FOUR, AND WE WERE OKAY AT 10.

NOW WE'RE IN $12 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS LATER, WE WOULD MEET THIS NEW THRESHOLD.

IT REALLY DOES CATCH PEOPLE OFF GUARD.

I WONDER IF THERE WILL BE LITIGATION GOING FORWARD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, BUT THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY BIG DEAL FOR A LOT OF TAXPAYERS.

>> WHAT ARE THE PENALTY FOR NONCOMPLIANCE?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.

>> JUST OFF THE BAT.

>> WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT HERE, THIS IS A REGULATORY AGENCY PASSING ON A RULE AS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COSTS.

THE LEGISLATIVE BODIES MAY BE NOT EVEN AWARE OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS, [OVERLAPPING] WHICH IS WHY THAT BE OUR FIRST STEP IS TELL OUR LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES, HEY, LOOK WHAT THIS REGULATORY AGENCY IS EXPECTING SOMEHOW PEOPLE TO FIND THE MONEY.

THIS IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT.

>> THERE WERE OVER 120,000 PUBLIC COMMENTS MADE BY UTILITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

>> I'M SURE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> EXPLAINING THE CONCERNS AND NOTHING CHANGED.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR FOR FUNDING BUT RIGHT NOW THAT 2029 DEADLINE IS THERE.

>> NO. THE NORM HAS BEEN, AND I APPRECIATE STAFF WORKS TO FIND FUNDING.

THIS IS ONE THAT IS APPROPRIATELY ELEVATED SO THAT WE ALL ARE INVOLVED WITH GETTING THIS ISSUE ADDRESSED.

WE WOULD TARGET HAVING MORE CLARITY ON THIS BY THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.

>> YES, DEFINITELY, IT'S MY GOAL. [LAUGHTER]

>> BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT A BUDGET WHERE THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VICTIMS ON $12.5 MILLION.

>> I CONCUR.

>> I AGREE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO BE DRINKING THAT STUFF, BUT IT HAS TO BE PAID FOR.

>> I SAY WE JUST GO AFTER THE COMPANY THAT CREATED THE CHEMICAL AND MAKE THEM PAY FOR IT.

>> DUPONT.

>> SEND THEM THE BILL.

>> THERE ARE THE NEWS ARTICLES ABOUT LITIGATION ON THAT VERY TOPIC.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> VERY GOOD. MOVING ON TO WATER FUND THE NEW PROJECTS.

THERE ARE EIGHT NEW PROJECTS WITHIN THE WATER UTILITY RELATING TO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND WATER QUALITY SAMPLING STATIONS.

THIS PROJECT PROPOSES TO EXPAND UPON THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PILOT PROGRAM UNDER WHICH 31 SAMPLING STATIONS WERE INSTALLED AND COMPLETE THE CONVERSION TO A DEDICATED WATER QUALITY SAMPLING STATIONS AT THE REMAINING 99 COMPLIANCE MONITORING LOCATIONS IN THE SYSTEM.

ALSO THE NANO ACID TANK EMERGENCY REPLACEMENT.

THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY REPLACEMENT, IF YOU REMEMBER RIGHT, DUE TO THE ACID TANK RUPTURE, ALONG WITH THE 24-INCH AQUIFER WATER MAIN EMERGENCY REPLACEMENT.

THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WE FEEL THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT THAT OCCURRED THERE, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND JUST REPLACE THAT SECTION OF THE PIPE.

THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, SOUTH WELL REPLACEMENT IS ALSO PART OF THAT.

>> THE 24-INCH WATER AQUIFER, IS THAT THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE ROAD WORKOUT ON THE NAME TOWN?

>> CORRECT.

>> ARE WE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL RECOVERIES FROM THEM, THE CONTRACTORS THAT DID THAT?

>> I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE SEEKING THAT.

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>> WE HAVE TO FIX IT REGARDLESS, SO WE NEED TO BUDGET FOR IT. RECOVERY WOULD BE GOOD.

>> IT'S A 24-INCH MANHOLE AND IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON THAT.

ALSO, THERE'S SOME SIX-INCH WATER MAIN THAT IS BEING INSTALLED FOR NEW WATER SERVICES, WHICH ALSO CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW FIRE PROTECTION, FIRE HYDRANTS IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEN THE CENTER STREET VALVES AND SERVICE REPLACEMENTS, AND THE ION EXCHANGE SYSTEM REPLACEMENT FOR THE PFAS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, AND I THINK I HEARD CONSENSUS FROM THE COUNCIL TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE FY29 FUNDING WINDOW.

>> YES.

>> QUESTION?

>> YES.

>> I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE FOR MS. BARNES.

BUT YEARS AGO, WE HAD A PLAN THAT, AND THIS WAS BEING APPLIED FOR LIMESTONE CREEK, EVERYBODY IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA, WHEN THEY GOT WATER, THEY SIGNED ON TO AN AGREEMENT TO ANNEX WHEN THE TIME CAME IN ANNEX.

IS THAT PROGRAM STILL IN EFFECT OR DID IT GET CANCELED TO WATER? AND DOES ANYBODY KNOW?

>> WE CAN FIND OUT MAYOR.

>> IT MAY HAVE BEEN PULLED BACK FOR SOME REASON, BUT I JUST DON'T REMEMBER.

>> I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT PROGRAM.

I KNOW WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN TO DO A LARGER DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT WAS CONSIDERED AND DISCUSSED, BUT FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMES.

>> WELL, AT LEAST FOR THE DEVELOPERS.

WELL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, AND WHY I BRING THIS UP IS I UNDERSTAND HOLLY LANE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS AN UNINCORPORATED AREA.

SIX HOMES GOING TO BE SPENDING QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS, AND I KNOW HOW WE GOT INTO THIS MESS.

BUT, I KNOW THE WATER UTILITY SERVES TOWN AND UNINCORPORATED AREA, AND I GET THAT.

BUT AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, TO THE DEGREE THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME, IT WAS A STRATEGY IN GIVING WATER TO GET PEOPLE WILLING AGREEMENT TO INCORPORATE, I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOME OF THESE, WE SHOULD JUST AUTOMATICALLY TAKE ON A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT TO SERVICE THE STREET WITHOUT JUST HAVING THEM BORROW IF THEY WANT TO HAVE THEM BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING FIRE HYDRANTS WHICH IS ALL GREAT AND WHATEVER, BUT IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT TO THEM.

REDUCES THEIR PERHAPS THE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AN OPEN ASK OF STAFF, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW YOU'D GO ABOUT.

MAYBE MR. BARRETT HAS TO WEIGH IN.

BUT IS THERE ANY STRATEGIES WE WOULD HAVE.

WE'RE CONSIDERING A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN UTILITY EXPENSE TO SERVE IN UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT WE POTENTIALLY COULD INCORPORATE THEM AND BRING THEM ON THE TAX ROLLS.

>> YEAH, I WOULD NEED.

>> NO, IT'S AN OPEN ENDED QUESTION.

BUT THERE WAS A STRATEGY, AND MAYBE THAT STRATEGY, I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE CASE, MAY HAVE DIED, AND YOU DID SAY THIS, THAT, WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN, WHAT DO THEY SIGN OR WHAT DO THEY AGREE TO?

>> IN THE PAST, WHEN A LARGE DEVELOPMENT WOULD COME IN, THEY WOULD ANNEX.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A PROPERTY OFF OF FREDERICK SMALL, LIKE TOWARDS THE INTERCOASTAL THAT IS LOOKING TO ANNEX TO THE TOWN.

>> MAYBE A SIDEBAR, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A DESIRE IN THE COUNCIL AND IT MAY HAVE CHANGED BUT, TO INCORPORATE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.

>> THE HOLLY LANE AND BENDROSS ROAD, WHICH ARE THE TWO THAT ARE IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, ALL THOSE HOMES CURRENT ALL EXCEPT TWO ON BENDROSS ROAD, CURRENTLY HAVE WATER SERVICE, BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

>> I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

>> WE'LL PUT THAT AS A NOTE, MAYOR TO FOLLOW UP ON.

DOES THAT AREA FALL WITHIN OUR PROPOSED FIRE DEPARTMENT OR NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT?

>> WELL, IT WOULD IF THEY WERE INCORPORATED.

>> BUT IF THEY'RE NOT INCORPORATED, THEY'RE NOT?

>> NO. THEY ARE NOT SERVED BY PALMACH COUNTY.

>> BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM FIRE HYDRANTS?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAPS, WE HAVE A LOT OF POCKETS, ESPECIALLY OFF OF CENTER AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.

THERE USED TO BE SOME PLAN OR IDEA AROUND WATER SERVICE.

THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT RECEIVE WATER SERVICE THAT ARE UNINCORPORATED, BUT,

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TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE ARE FUTURE INVESTMENTS, I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION, AND UNDERSTAND THE CRITERIA DEFINING THOSE TERMS.

>> I THINK THE STANDARDS OF TODAY, AND I GET IT.

IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN A NEW WATER LINE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO FIRE HYDRANTS AT THE SAME TIME.

SOME OF THESE SMALL POCKETS BECAUSE, I KNOW RESIDENTS THAT LIVED IN NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG [INAUDIBLE] USED TO BE, THEY'D GET THE WATER UTILITY TO GIVE THEM WATER, BUT THE METER WAS ON [INAUDIBLE] EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE IN.

PEOPLE FOUND CREATIVE WAYS IN THE WATER UTILITY, AND HELPED ENABLE THAT.

BUT NOW WE HAVE A HODGEPODGE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS HERE. IT'S A HODGEPODGE.

IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD AND NOW WE HAVE TO GO IN AND, IT'S OLD AND WE HAVE TO GO IN AND MAKE A MORE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, BUT THAT MEANS THAT THERE ARE NO CONNECTION FEES THAT NORMALLY COME ALONG WITH DOING THAT KIND OF PROJECT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HAVING SOME IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN SECURE MORE FUNDING, OFFSET THAT, IT MOVES US TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

THAT'S WHY I MADE THE ASK.

>> WE WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT MAYOR.

THE NEXT THING IS JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE GENERAL FUND, WHERE WE'RE COMPARING THE WATER FUND FOR OVER THE FY '25 THE FY '29 WINDOW, LOOKING FOR INCREASES AND DECREASES AND POINTING THOSE OUT, YOU CAN SEE IN FY '25, WHICH IS THE BUDGET YOU WILL BE REQUESTED TO ADOPT GOING INTO THE FIRST AND SECOND READING, WILL BE $1.7 MILLION INCREASE IN '25.

THE MAJORITY OF THOSE HAS TO DO WITH THE DEEP INJECTION WELL SYSTEM.

ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT WITH THAT PROGRAM IS, WE ARE SEEKING GRANT FUNDS FOR THAT, $10 MILLION, ACTUALLY.

THAT'LL BE COMING IN AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THAT SUBMITTAL.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LEGISLATIVE ITEMS, THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'LL BE CONCENTRATING ON GOING FORWARD.

THEN ALSO THE HARDENING SERVER BUILDING AND THE TRAINING FACILITY.

THERE WAS AN INCREASE THERE, THEN THERE WAS A DECREASE DUE TO STAFF.

I WANT TO POINT THIS OUT.

WE'VE SPOKEN WITH AMANDA AND REBECCA, THE ASSISTANT UTILITY DIRECTOR ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEIR STAFF HAS BEEN DOING ON THE WELLS, AND EXTENDING THE LIFE OF THOSE WELLS, DOING ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, AND EXTENDING SOME OF THAT.

THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SHOW OVER THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW, THEY THEY WERE ABLE TO PUSH OUT SOME OF THE REPLACEMENT COSTS GOING PAST THE FIVE-YEAR FUNDING WINDOW TO THE TUNE OF $7.3 MILLION, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THERE, MR. MAYOR?

>> NO. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FROM ME SEPARATELY.

I TURNED IN 40 COMMENTS THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON, SO I'M NOT BRINGING THOSE UP HERE TONIGHT.

>> THE STORMWATER FUND, I SAY THIS EVERY YEAR, AND WE ALL KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE.

THERE'S MORE PROJECTS THAN THERE IS FUNDING AND RELATING TO STORMWATER HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

FOR FY '25, LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF $1.4 MILLION IS BEING PROPOSED, TOTAL OF 12 PROJECTS WITH THE LARGEST OF THOSE PROJECTS BEING THE STORMWATER ASSET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

THERE'S ONE NEW PROJECT BEING PROPOSED IN FY '29.

THE PLANT IS THE PINE GARDENS NORTH DRAINAGE BASIN INTERCONNECT.

THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET.

BUT OVERALL, THE STORMWATER FUND HAS REMAINED STEADY AND FOLLOWING THE PLAN THAT'S CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND BEEN APPROVED.

IN SUMMARY, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING WERE SOME OF THE PLANS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON COMING VERY CLOSE TO PRESENTING THEM TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE CRA COMMISSION, WHICH IS THE CRA MASTER PLAN, THE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT PLAN.

ALSO, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE DISCUSSED DURING THE OPERATIONS AND THE CIP PORTION OF THE BUDGET IS THE STABLE RESERVES.

WHICH HELPS MAKE UP FOR ANY FUTURE DEFICITS THAT WE MAY HAVE.

IF WE WANT TO DIP IT INTO THOSE RESERVES, WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE, OR AS WE DID THIS EVENING, WE'RE MOVING AROUND PROJECTS, AND HOW THEY'RE TO BE FUNDED.

WE DID SOME OF THAT THIS EVENING.

THE FIRE STATIONS, WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. REAL QUICK.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS EVENING THAT, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORTH CONTRACTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRE STATIONS AND ALSO THE REMOVAL OF THE UNDERGROUND STRUCTURE ON PYATT PLACE.

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THAT'LL BE ON 20TH OF AUGUST.

THAT'S COMING TO THE COUNCIL.

THEN IT WILL BECOME A LEGACY PROJECT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE FUNDING THAT IN FY '24, AND THEN THAT WILL GET ROLLED INTO YOUR FY '25 FUNDING PLAN AS A LEGACY PROJECT WITH FUTURE FUNDING TO COME FOR THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE FIRE STATIONS.

ALSO, THE PROPOSED PROJECTS, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING ARE BASED ON REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS OF PROJECT SCOPE AND TIMELINES, TRYING NOT TO OVERFUND PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCOPE IS MORE REALISTIC THAT WE CAN GET IT DONE WITH THE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND THE COUNCIL.

THE WATER FUND PREPARING FOR THE P STAFF, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THAT PROJECT FROM THE FY '29 WINDOW.

THEN, ALSO DUE TO WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WAS THE REHABS AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FROM THE UTILITY STAFF, SAVING OR ACTUALLY MOVING OUT SOME $7.3 MILLION IN FUNDING REQUEST TO LATER YEARS, AND THEN THE DEEP WELL INJECTION.

WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING THAT $10 MILLION IN FTEP STATE FUNDS LATER IN THE CALENDAR YEAR TO HELP FUND SOME OF THAT PROJECT.

I ALSO IN YOUR PACKET, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE DID INCLUDE THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES IN YOUR PACKET AND THE FUNDING THAT GOES ALONG WITH EACH OF THOSE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAW THOSE IN YOUR PACKET.

WE PROVIDE THAT EVERY YEAR TO YOU.

THEN, ALL THE CHANGES WE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING, WE WILL BE INCORPORATING THOSE INTO THE CIP, WHICH WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU ON THE 3RD OF SEPTEMBER FOR THE FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET.

WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, MAYOR, UNLESS YOU HAD QUESTIONS.

>> ANY CLOSING COMMENTS?

>> WE TALKED AT LENGTH AGAIN AND YOU AND STAFF, ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

>> THE MAYOR.

>> QUESTIONS?

>> WELL, QUESTIONS OR CLOSING COMMENTS, EITHER WAY.

>> SURE. NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU SCOTT FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND ALL OF THE HARD WORK AND JUST AGAIN ON THE REALISTIC TIMELINES AND BEING ABLE TO SHARE THAT.

I'M GLAD ALSO THAT YOU MADE THE INDIAN CREEK BATHROOM PROJECT COMMENT THAT'S NOT IN THIS PACKET, BUT IT IS FUNDED, IT'S PRIOR FUNDING OF $437,000 THAT IS GOING FORWARD.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE INDIAN CREEK PLAYGROUND PROJECT OF 1.5 MILLION, THAT IS A MAJOR PLAYGROUND BUDGET AND A MAJOR INVESTMENT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE INCREASED THAT TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF RESIDENTS OR DESIRES OF RESIDENTS.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BATHROOM.

THAT'S NEAR $2 MILLION GOING INTO THAT PACKET TO MAKE IT BETTER, WHICH IS GREAT.

I WANTED TO SAY ON THE PLAYGROUND RESTORATION, WE DO HAVE THIS NEW ITEM BEFORE US WITH THINGS MOVED AROUND.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS THAT WENT OUT ON A COUPLE OF POTENTIAL DESIGNS FOR PLAYGROUNDS AND THEY DIDN'T GET THE FEEDBACK WE EXPECTED.

THE WAY I VIEW THAT IS IT'S ON US.

BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT PROVIDE THE FUNDING.

THERE IS A NEW STANDARD IN PLAYGROUNDS TO HAVE SHADE.

THAT IS THE NUMBER 1 DESIRE OF RESIDENTS.

WE HAVE PLAYGROUNDS, BUT NO ONE USES THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO HOT.

AS A MOM AND I'M SURE COUNCIL AND MAYOR CAN SPEAK AS A PARENT.

THE THING TO KNOW ABOUT JUPITER PLAYGROUNDS IS IF YOU WANT TO PLAY AT A PLAYGROUND WITH YOUR CHILDREN, YOU'RE LEAVING JUPITER.

WE DO NOT STAY IN THE TOWN.

WE TAKE OUR KIDS TO GARDENS TO OTHER TOWNS.

THE GOAL IS TO STAY IN THE TOWN AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE USE THE PLAYGROUNDS AND SHADE IS REALLY GOING TO DO THAT.

IN STAFF, WE'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE SHADE AND CHANGE THE TURF BECAUSE MULCH ISN'T GREAT FOR STROLLERS ALL THE TIME, OR WHEELCHAIRS OR ANY OTHER THING.

IT GOT EXPENSIVE QUICKLY.

SOMETIMES IT COULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF.

THE RENDERINGS WERE SHOWING LESS EQUIPMENT, NOT ENOUGH EQUIPMENT, BUT HAVING THE SHADE THERE IN PLACE.

I WANTED TO MAKE A REQUEST AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THIS UPDATED SHEET HERE TO HELP PROVIDE SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO MEET THE EXPECTATION OF RESIDENTS.

I'VE BEEN CAREFUL ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

WE DO TRY TO REPAIR THINGS, MAINTAIN THEM WELL, BUT WHEN THEY REACH THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE, WHEN YOUR REFRIGERATOR BREAKS AT HOME OR APPLIANCE, YOU MAKE THAT UPGRADE AND YOU DO IT RIGHT, AND THEN IT GOES ON TO THE NEXT PERIOD.

WE HAVE THIS MASTER PLAN COMING.

THERE'S A SURVEY DONE WITH THAT, SOMETHING LIKE 51% OF SURVEY RESPONSE.

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THOSE MAKING RESPONSES USE PLAYGROUNDS ARE SOME OF OUR HIGHEST USE FACILITIES AND AFTER BEACHES OR PUBLIC RESTROOMS, THESE ARE REALLY HIGHLY USED.

I ALSO WANTED TO FOCUS MA TO SWAP HERE.

YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENT ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK LISTED IN '25, AND IT HAS A DIFFERENT BUDGET, YOU'LL NOTICE FROM FIND.

BUT, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE OLDER PARKS FIRST, BUT NOT ALL OF THE OLDER PARKS ARE BEING USED AND NOT ALL OF THEM ARE AS VISIBLE.

WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEED OF RESIDENTS WHO WANT SOME PLACE TO GO.

IT'S VISIBLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT TIERS OF NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL WITH DIFFERENT TIERS OF FUNDING.

SOME NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE EAST VIEW MANOR, WE JUST CUT THE RIBBON ON THAT ONE.

IT HAS NO PARKING.

IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAYGROUND.

IT HAS NO PARKING, IT HAS NO BATHROOM.

IT HAS NO OTHER RECREATION FACILITIES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A SMALLER BUDGET OR FOOTPRINT.

YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT ACROSS SOME OF THESE.

OTHERS, JCP ACP, HAVE THE PARKING, HAVE THE BATHROOMS, HAVE THE LARGER.

ABACOA IS SMALLER BECAUSE IT'S A SMALLER LOT SIZE AND YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH WITH THE SIZE OF THE SPACE.

BUT, THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS.

THE GOAL IS, LET'S GET PEOPLE USING MORE PLAYGROUNDS MORE QUICKLY, STAYING IN THE TOWN, ENJOYING THOSE FACILITIES.

LET'S GIVE STAFF THE RESOURCES TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN MEETING THE NEW DESIRES WITH SHADE.

LET'S BE SMART ABOUT IT, LOOKING AT TREES, LOOKING AT THAT, BUT ALSO HOW WE COMMUNICATE IT.

I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF ABOUT SOME OF THE RENDERINGS AND, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT FIRE STATIONS AND INDIAN CREEK PARK, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOME OF THE DELAY BECAUSE INDIAN CREEK PARK WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BEFORE, AND WE DELAYED IT BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT IT FOR OTHER USES.

BUT WE HAD RENDERINGS DONE OR WE BASICALLY PULLED THE AERIAL FROM PAPA MAPS SO THAT YOU COULD SEE WHERE EVERY TREE WAS, WHAT WAS THERE, AND THEN YOU COULD VISUALIZE IT OR HAVE IT DRAWN OUT.

WITH AI AND WITH SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT STAFF SHARED, SORRY TO GO ON SO LONG ABOUT THIS, BUT, RESIDENTS AREN'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY USED TO SEEING DIFFERENT RENDERINGS OR PLANS.

IF THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE TREES THAT THEY KNOW THERE OR THE BENCHES, THEY MAY ASSUME THAT WE'RE REMOVING TREES OR NOT PLANNING FOR BENCHES AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING EFFECTIVELY MANAGING EXPECTATIONS AROUND THAT.

BUT, THIS IS A MAJOR PART OF THE RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

IT'S HIGHLY TRAFFIC.

COULD BE HIGHLY USED IF YOU DO THIS.

THAT'S MY REQUEST.

THEIR REQUEST WAS FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

YOU'LL SEE MAPLEWOOD WAS 275, IT'S NOW 450, JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK WAS 450, IT'S NOW 735, BECAUSE IT'S A LARGER PARK.

ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK WAS 400, IT'S NOW 500.

THESE ARE INCREASES TO MEET THE SHADE AND THE EQUIPMENT.

THEN WE MADE A SWITCH ON ONE OF THE PARKS JUST TO GET THOSE HIGHER USE, HIGHER VISIBILITY PARKS DONE FIRST.

THAT'S WHAT I SUBMIT TO YOU GUYS FOR DISCUSSION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I AGREE 100% WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID IN THE REQUEST FOR INCREASES IN FUNDING.

ONE THING I'LL ADD TO IS JUST, I GET TOLD AND I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS IS, EVERYBODY WANTS SOME SPLASH PAD SOMETHING.

IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NORTH COUNTY REGIONAL PARK, THEY HAVE THE PLAYGROUND THERE.

THEY ALSO HAVE WHAT THEY CONSIDER A PASSIVE SPLASH PAD WHERE YOU CAN GO, HIT THE BUTTON, ACTIVATE THE WATER FOR 5, 10 MINUTES, WHATEVER, AND THEN IT'S LIKE A FLOW THROUGH DESIGN THING, AND I HAD ALREADY MET WITH A COMPANY A FEW YEARS BACK AND GOTTEN SOME PRELIMINARY PRICING ON THAT.

IT WAS AROUND $70,000 FOR SOMETHING OF THAT DESIGN.

>> AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE PARKS, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE USERS ARE, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT INVESTIGATED IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE ADDED IN AS WELL BECAUSE SHADE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE CHILDREN COOL, BUT SO IS WATER.

IF WE COULD HAVE SOME WATER FEATURE THAT WOULD COOL KIDS DOWN AND GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO PLAY WITH THAT, I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDED IN SOMEWHERE.

IF POSSIBLE, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY BECAUSE AGAIN, THE NARRATIVE IS IF WE WANT ANY WATER FEATURE, THEY HAVE TO GO TO PALM BEACH GARDENS TO EXPERIENCE IT.

LIKE THE VICE MAYOR SAID, TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE IN JUPITER IS THE GOAL.

I JUST WANTED TO TACK ONTO THAT IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

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BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE BUDGET. APPRECIATE IT.

>> I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING QUICKLY THERE, AND COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL LONGER THAN I HAVE, MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ME CLARIFY.

BUT THE NORTH COUNTY DISTRICT PARK, THAT IS A COUNTY PARK IN A MUNICIPALITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF THOSE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY?

>> THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT.

THAT'S WHY MANY YEARS AGO, COMMISSIONER MARCUS GOT WITH ALL OF THE NORTH COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES AND EVERY DISTRICT HAD FUNDING TO PUT A PARK AND THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT MADE THAT PARK WOULD BE IN THE GARDENS.

THEN THE GARDENS WHEN THE COUNTY TRIED TO DEVELOP IT, THEY OWNED THE PROPERTY.

THE GARDENS OBJECTED TO IT, AND IT SAT THERE FOR A WHILE.

THEN WHEN THE GARDENS BEGAN THEIR MASTER PLANNING, THEY APPROACHED THE COUNTY.

THAT'S WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE THAT THOSE FIELDS AVAILABLE.

WHILE THE GARDENS PAID FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE PROPERTY WAS THE COUNTY'S, SO IT'S BOUND WITH.

WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH THAT, WHICH HAS GOT A COUNTY SUBSIDY TO IT.

BUT MOST RESIDENTS WON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

THEY'LL THINK SEE THE GARDENS HAS THAT, BUT WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE BECAUSE I STRUGGLE WITH HOW DO I LOOK AT THAT PARK.

IS THAT LIKE A JOHN PRINCE PARK OR SOME OF THESE OTHER PARKS IN THE COUNT, THESE LARGE PARKS OR IS THIS A GARDENS FACILITY? IT HELPS TO CLARIFY THAT IT DOES HAVE THAT COUNTY COMPONENT AND COUNTY SUBSIDY AND IS FOR THE USE OF RESIDENTS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

THE REC MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO BE COMPREHENSIVE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT RECREATION FOR A WHILE, AND IT HASN'T COME OUT YET, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WORKING WITH BECAUSE THE SPLASH PAD REQUIRES SO MUCH.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE A POOL.

THERE'S LIABILITY, MORE REGULATIONS, THERE'S MORE STAFF, MORE MANTA.

THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT IS AN ENORMOUS UNDERTAKING.

IT'S NOT JUST PUTTING EQUIPMENT IN THE GROUND.

I KNOW THAT WE WERE LOOKING MAYBE, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH OTHER FACILITIES IN THE TOWN LIKE THE AQUATIC CENTER ON TONY PENNA, FOR EXAMPLE.

I KNOW THAT STAFF HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS ON THAT PROPERTY.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE HOW AND WHAT AND WHEN, BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM RESIDENTS WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND WE WANT TO MAKE AS MANY OF THOSE ITEMS POSSIBLE.

I HAD JUST SHARED WITH STAFF SOMETHING ABOUT THE MISTING POLES.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN [OVERLAPPING]

>> JUST TO CLARIFY [OVERLAPPING] THE WATER FEATURE I WAS DISCUSSING WASN'T NECESSARILY A SHALLOW POOL.

IF YOU GO TO THE REGIONAL PARK, IT'S LITERALLY A FLAT THING AND WATER JUST SHOOTS OUT OF VARIOUS LITTLE STRUCTURES AND THEN A BUCKET FILLS UP AND DUMPS ON YOU AND STUFF, BUT IT'S NOT A POOL PER SE.

IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO SHOOT THE WATER AROUND AND GET WET AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND COOL THEMSELVES DOWN.

>> NOT A POOL, BUT JUST WORRY ABOUT ALL THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT COME WITH THE WATER.

>> LIKE I SAID [OVERLAPPING]

>> BATHROOM.

>> THEY'RE DOING IT DOWN THERE, SO I FIGURED IF WE COULD INVESTIGATE THAT [OVERLAPPING]

>> AGREE. I THINK PART OF THE RECREATION MASTER PLAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY BIG ITEM AS WELL.

>> I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF WRAP-UP COMMENTS, BUT JUST REGARDING THE SPLASH PAD, THERE'S SET EXPECTATIONS, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT ADDING THAT HERE.

I AGREE THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE MASTER PLAN, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT.

I HAVE A 16-MONTH-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER WHO HAS BEEN DOWN IN THAT SPLASH PAD A NUMBER OF TIMES.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S A USER FEE.

BUT TO THE DEGREE THAT THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE I KNOW THAT HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN THERE, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT, BUT MAYBE IT'D BE ONE LOCATION IN THE TOWN AND AS WE'RE BENCHMARKING, WE OUGHT TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW OTHER NEIGHBORING GOVERNMENTS ARE HANDLING THAT.

THAT'S WHY I'M EMPHASIZING THERE'S A USER FEE.

>> WELL, THAT'S THE GARDEN'S FACILITY.

I WAS SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE NORTH COUNTY REGIONAL PARK.

>> NO. THERE'S LIKE BURNS ROAD.

>> YEAH, BURNS ROAD. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S WHERE YOU'D PAY A FEE, AND THEN IT'S FREE TO THE PUBLIC.

>> WELL, WE'RE GETTING THAT CONVERSATION.

[OVERLAPPING] THIS IS THE TIME TO CONSIDER IF WE WANT SOME ADDS.

[01:30:03]

NOT JUST UPGRADES, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER THAT AN ADD OF SCOPE, AND THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN.

BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO FIND WHAT'S THE SUITABLE PLACE FOR THAT AND HOW WOULD WE DO THAT.

BUT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT THAT'S NOT HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ADDING IT TO THE SPECIFIC BUDGET.

IT'LL BE A MASTER PLAN.

WE'VE ADDED A LOT OF STUFF IN THE BUDGET THAT CAN MOVE AHEAD AND WE MAY INFLUENCE THE DESIGN, BUT THAT'S A SCOPE ITEM, BUT I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

THE STAFF WOULD KNOW HOW TO REACT TO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN.

A FEW OTHER ITEMS JUST QUICKLY, I CAN'T OVEREMPHASIZE, I REALIZED WE HAVE STAFF HERE WITH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PROJECT WORK, ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND A LOT OF THAT WITH NO ONE'S FAULT HAS LANGUISHED FOR YEARS.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE CONCERTED EFFORT BEING MADE TO SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVE PROJECT PLANNING EFFORTS AND SCHEDULING AND COMMITMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THAT'S GOING TO PAY DIVIDENDS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT HARD WORK.

BUT I JUST WANT TO PREFACE WHAT I'M MAKING BECAUSE I'M TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY WITH MY COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT QUITE FRANKLY HAVE BEEN THE PRACTICE FOR YEARS, BUT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE PRACTICE.

AS AN EXAMPLE, FOR YEARS, WHEN THE PROJECT NO LONGER NEEDED FUNDING, IT WOULD FALL OFF THE LIST.

NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THESE PROJECTS THAT STILL WERE FUNDED, AND THEN FINANCE GOES AHEAD AND THE LAST FEW YEARS GIVES US THE BUDGET CARRYFORWARDS.

BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENED JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS STAFF DID, BUT WE DIDN'T.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT LIKE THERE'S ONE, COLLECT THE ROAD LIGHTING.

THERE'S A $296,000 BALANCE CARRYFORWARD.

I WAS FOLLOWING THAT ONE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BECAUSE THE COUNCIL HAD EARMARKED EVERY COLLECTOR ROAD TO HAVE LIGHTING.

WELL, RECENTLY, A RESIDENT ASKED ME, HOW DID THESE LIGHTS GET PUT IN? I WENT TO THE CIP BOOK TO FIND OUT.

I THINK THE LAST TIME IT APPEARED IN THE CIP BOOK WAS 2021, JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW LONG THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT.

I HAVE A JUST OPEN-ENDED ASK, IS WHAT IS REMAINING ON THAT BY WHICH WE'RE CARRYING FORWARD A BALANCE OF $296,000, THAT'S JUST AN ASK THAT I HADN'T SENT IN BEFORE, SCOTT.

BUT THERE'S A REASON I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S LEFT.

I DO THINK IT JUST POINTS TO THAT WE THE COUNCIL WANT TO KNOW IN-SERVICE DATES FOR CARRY PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED.

I'VE BEEN ASKING THAT WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S LEFT IN THE SCOPE AND WHEN IS IT TO BE DONE.

OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN FOR YEARS THAT IF SOMETHING IS A CONTINUUM, WE WOULD CARRY OVER THE BALANCE, AND THEN WE WOULD CONTINUE TO FUND.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S AN ITEM, AND I'M NOT FINDING FAULT WITH ANYBODY.

THIS WAS THE PRACTICE, BUT WE HAD PRIVATE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT GRANTS, AND WE HAVE THE BALANCE CARRYFORWARD IS $411,000.

THE CADENCE IS ABOUT 80 GRAND A YEAR OR WHATEVER.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO FUND IT, YET THE BALANCE CARRY FORWARD HAS GROWN.

I QUESTION HOW IT'S POSSIBLE TO SPEND IT.

TWO APPROACHES, WE DON'T CONTINUE TO FUND IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

WELL, WE RETURN SOME OF THAT.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TOWN MANAGER AND FINANCE AND STAFF TO TRY TO TRUE UP THOSE ITEMS BECAUSE WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TIED UP IN CARRYFORWARDS.

SOME OF THAT IS JUST THE PRACTICE WE'VE DONE FOR YEARS, BUT TIME TO CHANGE THAT PRACTICE.

I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE AND EXPLAIN THAT SINCE SO MANY OF STAFF ARE HERE TONIGHT.

WELL, TWO LAST ITEMS. NUMBER 1, DOLPHIN DRIVE.

COUNCILOR MAY HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT AT LAST MEETING.

THE WAY THIS WORKS, IF WE ALL HAVE NOTICED ON COUNCIL, THERE'S A WEIGH-IN.

ONE DOESN'T BRING AT THE CLOSURE.

[01:35:02]

I HAD TO FIND OUT WHAT THE STATUS WAS THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING OF.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR MAY, SO I'M WEIGHING IN.

I HAD TO [NOISE] SEE WHAT IT WAS, WHICH IS WHY I DIDN'T WEIGH IN LAST MEETING, BUT I AGREE THAT WE CAN'T FUND THE EXTRA ON THAT.

THEN, LASTLY, I'D BE REMISS, AND I MISSED IT EARLIER IN THE MEETING.

I HAD A NOTE HERE.

IN THE AUGUST 2ND WEEKLY REPORT, WE SAW ABOUT TWO IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE ON HANDLING WORK AND STAFFING IN PARKS AND REC, AND THAT TURF TANK SOLUTION, WHICH I UNDERSTAND, CRAIG WESTOVER, SUPERINTENDENT OF PARKS HAD FOUND.

THAT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY GOOD CELEBRATION EXAMPLE OF STAFF SHOULD ALWAYS FEEL WELCOME TO BRING FORTH IDEAS.

I'M JUST DELIGHTED FOR THAT ONE.

FIFTY-THOUSAND DOLLAR SAVINGS, BUT IMPORTANTLY, IT FREES UP STAFF.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> WE ARE TOO, MAYOR.

>> NO, I KNOW YOU ARE, AND IT WAS REPORTED, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT TAKES ME SOMETIMES A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET CAUGHT UP ON THE WEEKLY REPORT.

I JUST DON'T REMEMBER IT, HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED, SO I JUST WANT TO HAVE MENTION THAT ON THE RECORD THAT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE SUGGESTIONS THAT COME FORTH TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE HOW WE DO BUSINESS, AND I AGREE WITH THE OUTSOURCING OF REST ROOM MAINTENANCE AND WHATEVER.

I THINK THIS YEAR, THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT STEP CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR, IF I COULD, JUST VERY QUICKLY.

I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME NOMINATION FOR A TOWN MANAGER'S AWARD, OR CRAIG, COMING FORWARD.

I JUST THINK IT'S IN THE WORKS ALREADY.

WE'LL NOT ONLY RECOGNIZE HIM PUBLICLY BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR HIS SUGGESTION.

>> THERE'S A PROCESS FOR YOU TO DO THAT.

>> YES.

>> THIS IS COMING FROM THE COUNCIL HERE.

BUT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND THAT'S A MODEL OF SOMEBODY TO, HEY, IS THERE AN EASY WAY TO DO IT? ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR, IF I COULD, JUST TWO QUICK THINGS AS FOLLOW-UPS ON THIS PRESENTATION.

FIRST OF ALL, AS I SAID EARLIER, I WANT TO THANK SCOTT AND DAWN AND THE ENTIRE TEAM THERE FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK, AND ALL OF THE DIRECTORS, THEY'RE ALL SITTING HERE, READY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

WE RIFLE THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION IN ABOUT AN HOUR.

BUT THESE FOLKS PUT IN HOURS AND HOURS AND DAYS AND WEEKS, AND IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, SO KUDOS TO YOU GUYS, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK.

IF I COULD, MAYOR, JUST VERY QUICKLY, I WANTED TO RESPOND TO COUNCILOR FORE'S QUESTION ABOUT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL.

I'M LOOKING AT OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE HERE IN JUST A BIT FOR YOU.

DEPUTY CHIEF BARBERA, WHO IS HERE, HE FINISHED WITH THE LATEST MEETING ON JULY 9TH, WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSALS FROM SONG AND ASSOCIATES ON JULY 26TH.

WE'RE EXPECTING THE DESIGN PLANS BACK ON AUGUST 30TH, AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE SHOULD BE COMING TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR DESIGN PLAN ON SEPTEMBER 17TH.

THEN CONSTRUCTION BEGINS ON 3-6 OF 25, AND IF ALL GOES WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MEMORIAL DEDICATION EVENT AROUND APRIL 2ND.

I'M MAPPING IT OUT, WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY, ALL WORKS WELL AND WE'LL HAVE THAT EVENT ON APRIL 2ND OF 2025. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> I DIDN'T SEE ANY PUBLIC HERE OTHER THAN STAFF, SO NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW 8:09 AND WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.