>> GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 PM.
[Call to Order]
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I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF TUESDAY, MAY 21ST.WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE ABLE, WOULD PLEASE JOIN ME IN STANDING.
>> DEAR, GOD. ALLOW US TO BE RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
HELP US HAVE CLEAR MINDS AND TO USE WISDOM IN THE DECISIONS PLACED IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT, AMEN.
LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
>> COUNCILOR DELANEY? COUNCILOR FORE? COUNCILOR MAY? TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW?
>> WE'LL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THIS IS THE TIME FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS AND ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IS ASKED TO STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PRIOR TO ADDRESSING TOWN COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC CITIZEN COMMENTS?
>> YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE SEVERAL.
FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NANCY GONZALEZ FOLLOWED BY CINDY LOATH.
>> HI. MY NAME IS NANCY GONZALEZ. I LIVE IN THE SHORES.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO KEEP YOUR PROMISES AND TO REMIND YOU THAT FROM MY MEMORY, EACH OF YOU RAN IN ONE CAMPAIGNS ON THE PROMISE TO KEEP JUPITER THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL TO REDUCE TRAFFIC AND TO PROTECT JUPITER'S UNIQUE NATURAL RESOURCES.
IN THE DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, MAYOR KURETSKI, AFTER PUBLIC OUTCRY, PROMISED THAT THE TOWN WOULD NOT BUILD ON CINQUEZ PARK, AND IMPORTANTLY THAT YOU WOULD NOT BUILD ON THE ADJACENT LAND, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO SUCH THING, IT'S ALL THE PARK.
RESPECTFULLY, PLEASE ALLOW ME TO QUOTE THE MAYOR WORD FOR WORD, SPEAKING ABOUT A LOCATION FOR A FIRE STATION ON DECEMBER 5TH.
"EARLY ON, WE HAD THE THING WHERE MY- A MY SPACE BE.
SO THIS THING ABOUT THE DOG PARK, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S PROPERTY NEXT TO THE DOG PARK THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE BOND MONEY.
SECOND OF ALL, WE'VE DISCOUNTED THAT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS- AFTER IT WAS WRITTEN, BUT WE HAD TO PUT SOMETHING DOWN." DISCOUNTED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
IMPORTANTLY, NOTE THE REFERENCE TO PROPERTY NEXT TO THE DOG PARK.
NOW LET ME READ A QUOTE FROM THE TOWN OF JUPITER'S OFFICIAL FACEBOOK PAGE WHERE THE TOWN REPEATEDLY POSTED RESPONSES TO INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS CONCERNED ABOUT BUILDING A STATION ON CINQUEZ.
"CINQUEZ PARK AND THE DOG PARK ARE NOT BEING CONSIDERED AS A POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR A FUTURE STATION." I OPPOSE THIS LOCATION BECAUSE ONE, YOU PROMISED IT WAS OFF THE TABLE.
TWO, IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN ROAD BY NEEDING TO ADD ANOTHER TRAFFIC LIGHT TO ALLOW TRUCKS TO SAFELY HEAD EAST.
THREE, MORE CONSTRUCTION WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
FOUR, NOISES FROM TONS GOING OFF WILL DISTRESS DOGS IN THE PARK, MAKING IT UNUSABLE FOR MANY.
FIVE, THERE IS NO LANGUAGE IN THE DOCUMENT YOU'RE VOTING ON THAT PROTECTS THE HISTORIC BANYAN TREE IN THE PARK.
YOU SHOULD, AT MINIMUM, ADD LANGUAGE PROTECTING THAT TREE.
NO PRUNING, NO RELOCATING, NO TREE DOCTOR CONVENIENTLY DECLARING IT DISEASED.
FIVE, BUILDING ON PUBLIC PARKS TO SAVE MONEY IS NOT A GOOD LOOK.
I OPPOSE DEVELOPING ANY LAND ON OUR LIMITED PARKS AND GREEN SPACE, AS I SEE THAT AS A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
IF YOU'RE WILLING TO BUILD HERE, ALL BETS ARE OFF.
ANY GREEN SPACE COULD BE UP FOR GRABS.
PLEASE PROTECT OUR PARKS, PURCHASE PROPERTY IN AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION, OR BETTER YET, LET THE RESIDENTS VOTE ON THIS ENTIRE MATTER.
KEEP YOUR PROMISE TO NOT BUILD ON CINQUEZ PARK TO REDUCE TRAFFIC AND TO PROTECT JUPITER'S UNIQUE NATURAL RESOURCES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE]
>> CINDY LOATH, FOLLOWED BY LOUIS SIMMONS.
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>> I AM CINDY LOATH. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE KNOCK OF DASH CAMS IN THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I HOPE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS ON THAT.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW IT'S AFFECTED ME PERSONALLY.
WHAT THE ARREST ON JANUARY MAY 23RD, 2023, IT'S ALMOST A YEAR.
I TOLD YOU THAT I SOLD MY CAR BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER FELT SAFE IN MY CAR.
I SOLD MY HOUSE, I CAN'T SLEEP IN MY HOUSE.
I ACTUALLY NOW SUFFER FROM SLEEP PARALYSIS WHERE I THINK I'M AWAKE AND I'M NOT, AND I'M CONSTANTLY RELIVING THAT EXPERIENCE THAT NIGHT.
I'M STILL WORKING ON HAVING MY RECORD EXPUNGED.
NOW I'VE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO MY COMPANY WHAT'S HAPPENED AND IT'S DAMAGED MY REPUTATION AS WHO I AM.
AGAIN, EXPERIENCING WHAT HAPPENED TO ME THAT NIGHT.
I'M NOT GOING TO DRAW AND TALK MUCH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GOLFER BECAUSE I REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
I'M LEAVING SOON, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO FORGET MY FACE AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO FORGET WHO I AM.
I'M SORRY, THIS SOUNDS REALLY LOUD.
MY DAUGHTER, THE ONE THAT HAD A STROKE THAT JPD LEFT HOME ALONE, EXPOSED ALONE TWO MONTHS AFTER HER STROKE, SHE WROTE ME BEAUTIFUL LETTER FOR MOTHER'S DAY REMINDING ME THAT WE CAN ALWAYS FIND SOMETHING POSITIVE IN ANY EXPERIENCE, AND I'M SO GRATEFUL SHE WASN'T IN THE CAR BECAUSE SHE WOULD HAVE DIED THAT NIGHT.
SHE WASN'T CAPABLE OF FOLLOWING COMMANDS.
THEY WOULD HAVE PUSHED HIM TO THE GROUND BECAUSE HE'S NOT CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING COMMANDS, ESPECIALLY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'M GOING TO JUST TAKE THE LAST FEW MINUTES.
LAST WEEK, I DIDN'T SPEAK BECAUSE WE WERE HONORING POLICE OFFICERS AND THERE WERE CHILDREN IN THE ROOM GETTING THEIR AWARDS.
MY DAUGHTER IN 2019 WON FIRST PLACE IN THE EIGHTH GRADE DIVISION.
I BELIEVE IT'S AN AMAZING PROGRAM FOR THE KIDS.
IT CREATES A LOT OF PRIDE IN THEIR ART, AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT HELPED MY DAUGHTER LOVE ART MORE BECAUSE SHE WAS RECOGNIZED, AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALWAYS CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM FOR THE CHILDREN BECAUSE I THINK IT'S QUITE AMAZING.
I BELIEVE MR. DELANEY PRESENTED AWARDS IN 2019.
THEY HAD THE PLAQUES BACK THEN.
I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM FOR THEM.
>> LOUIS SIMMONS, FOLLOWED BY LINDA MCDERMOTT.
>> I'VE JUST BEEN INFORMED ABOUT THE ZONING REGULATIONS IN JUPITER ARE NOT FAVORABLE TO OPENING ANY DISPENSARIES.
I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU'LL RECONSIDER THOSE ZONING REGULATIONS SO THAT JUPITER CAN BE LIKE EVERY OTHER AREA IN PALM BEACH COUNTY THAT HAS DISPENSARIES.
THEY'RE ALL OPENING UP IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
THEY'RE MAKING A TON OF MONEY, AND I'M SURE PALM BEACH GARDENS IS MAKING MONEY FROM THAT, BUT JUPITER COULD MAKE MONEY FROM THAT ALSO.
I JUST THINK IT'D BE REALLY BENEFICIAL TO A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY USE THE DISPENSARIES AND NEED THE PRODUCTS THERE TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THEIR OWN HOMETOWN AND NOT HAVE TO TRAVEL FAR TO GET ANYTHING.
JUST ONE WORD ABOUT THE FIREHOUSE THINGS, I THINK PUTTING SOMETHING ON INDIANTOWN ROAD WOULD BE JUST A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE FOR EVERYBODY.
PEOPLE HERE DON'T USE THEIR TURN SIGNALS ENOUGH TO SAY THAT THERE'S NEVER ANY ACCIDENTS, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO INCREASE I THINK A LOT OF PROBLEMS TRAFFIC-WISE IF THERE'S A FIRE STATION RIGHT ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
>> GOOD EVENING, LINDA MCDERMOTT, CHADWICK DRIVE.
TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO REPEAT MY COMMENTS FROM MAY 7TH COUNCIL MEETING DUE TO THE FACT THAT ONCE AGAIN,
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THE AUDIO AND VISUAL PLAYBACK DID NOT WORK AT ALL.THROUGH THE EMAILS, I DID REQUEST THAT MY COMMENTS BE WRITTEN INTO THE MINUTES AND WAS TOLD THEY WERE JUST A SUMMARY, BUT THE MINUTES DON'T REFLECT THE KEY POINTS OF MY COMMENTS, WHICH THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO FIND IN PUBLIC RECORD.
HERE I GO. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I BELIEVE THE TOWN OF JUPITER HAS DONE MANY GOOD THINGS IN THE PAST, AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF.
BUT THERE IS ONE IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT I DON'T AGREE ON AND THAT IS CREATING JUPITER FIRE RESCUE AND TAKING AWAY PEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE FROM US.
ON THE APPOINTMENT OF A DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF WHILE STEPHEN SHAW HAS OUTSTANDING CREDENTIALS, I BELIEVE THAT ONBOARDING FOR THIS POSITION IS PREMATURE AND WASTEFUL SPENDING WHEN THERE IS NO OPERATING DEPARTMENT, STATIONS, STAFF MEMBERS TO TRAIN OR MANAGE AT THIS TIME.
HOW IS THIS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE? THE TOWN SHOULD HAVE SPENT THE MONEY ON HIRING A CONSULTANT TO DO A STUDY AND SAMPLE METHODOLOGY ON HOW MUCH THE FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE NEEDS TO BE IN ORDER FOR THE TOWN TO PROVIDE A TRUE BUDGET AND IMPACT STATEMENT ON REAL COSTS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS.
THIS IS THE UNKNOWN THAT NEEDS TO BE UNCOVERED FOR FISCAL TRANSPARENCY.
YOU STILL HAVE NOT PROVEN THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE BIO RESCUE SERVICES EQUAL TO PALM BEACH COUNTY BY RESCUE AT A REDUCED COST.
BUT MOST OF ALL, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN GIVE UP A PREMIER SERVICE WITH GUARANTEED BACKUP PLANS WITH THE INTENTION OF UTILIZING MORE MUTUAL AID THAN YOUR OWN UNITS AND EXPECT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO PAY FOR IT.
I DON'T WANT TO BE ON A WAITING LIST IF I HAVE A LIFE OR DEATH EMERGENCY.
VOTERS WERE NOT AWARE THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PULL THE CORD ON SAFETY, BUT THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
>> DANIEL MCANDREWS, FOLLOWED BY SENECA PRIDAMAKY.
>> DANIEL MCANDREWS, 6120 DRAKE STREET, JUPITER FLORIDA.
I'M COMING TO YOU AS A FATHER, A HUSBAND, AND A VETERAN.
I'VE BEEN IN JUPITER OVER 20 YEARS.
LISA, I LIVE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
I END UP VOTED FOR YOU THE FIRST TIME.
TAKING MY KIDS TO SCHOOL, I'M HEARING A LOT OF CHATTER ABOUT NOW THERE'S A LAWSUIT.
THERE'S A PAC FUND THAT'S SUING THE TOWN OF JUPITER, AND THEN THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS NOW SUING ANYBODY THAT SHIRTS OR PART OF THE PACK PHONE OR THAT WAS HERE, I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
I KNOW WE UNANIMOUSLY, YOU GUYS ALL VOTED TO DOUBLE THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S PAY, AND I HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD WHO WORE A SHIRT.
ARE YOU GUYS SUING ME AND MY FAMILY? DO I GO TO PUT MY TWO YEAR OLD UP ON THE STAND, BUT YET I'M ALSO A RESIDENT, SO ARE YOU ALSO GOING TO DEFEND ME? ISN'T THIS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? I MEAN, THIS IS SILLY IT'S OVER PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT TO VOTE FOR.
JUST HOW THE LAWSUIT WAS BROUGHT UP AND ANYONE THAT WEAR SHIRTS OR CAME UP HERE IS TURNING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, REPEATED THE PASS OR A LITTLE BIT OF THE BROWN COATS.
I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO RETHINK THIS.
IT'S SOMETHING SILLY OVER PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. SENECA PRIDAMAKY, WEST RIVER DRIVE.
IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE IS A PLAN TO CLEAR OUT THE NON NATIVES AND DEAD MALUCAS FROM 500 DELAWARE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE TAYLOR PROPERTY AT ONE FELL SWOOP INSTEAD OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN OF DOING IT IN PHASES TO PROTECT WILDLIFE, AND I DID CONFIRM THIS WITH THE TOWN.
IN THE FIRST PHASE, A TEAM CAME WALKING THE BARK OF THE NON-NATIVES AND THE TREES DIED WITH MINIMAL DAMAGE TO THE WETLAND.
THIS GREEN SPACE IS A THRIVING HABITAT FOR BOBCATS, FOXES, TURTLES, AND BIRDS, AND THE WETLAND HAS RED, BLACK AND WHITE MANGROVES, SPREADING OUT EVEN MORE NOW THAT THE MALUCAS ARE DEAD, AND THE MANGROVES HAVE MORE LIGHT.
APPARENTLY, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE DEAD TREES, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE CONTAINED IN THE WETLAND, AND SLOWLY DETERIORATING FROM THE TOP DOWN AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE FALLEN.
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GOING IN THERE WITH MACHINERY WILL DESTROY THE NEW RED MEMBROS ROOT AND CROSS THE LITTLE FINGERS THAT THE BLACK MEMBROS USED TO ALLOW THEIR ROOTS TO BREATHE.NOT TO MENTION THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WILDLIFE HABITAT.
BAIRD LIFE HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.
THERE ARE CARDINALS, BLUE CHASE, WOODPECKERS, DOVES, BLUE GRAY AND NIGHT HERONS, SPRAYS, HAWKS, AND TERES, JUST TO NAME THE ONES THAT I KNOW, I SEE LOTS OF BIRDS, BUT I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THEM.
BOBCATS ARE OFTEN SEEN BY US AND THE NEIGHBORS AS THEY COME FROM THE WOODS AND GO THROUGH THE BACKYARDS ALONG JONES CREEK TO DELAWARE SCRUB AND THEN SOUTH OF THERE ALONG JONES CREEK AGAIN.
I'M ASKING THE TOWN TO RECONSIDER THE MANNER IN WHICH THE NOMINATIVES ARE CLEARED OUT FROM THIS GREEN SPACE AND ASKING FOR CONTINUED PROTECTION OF THIS WETLAND. THANK YOU.
>> JEN CLAIRE, FOLLOWED BY KAREN VINCENT.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL, JEN CLAIRE, RIVERSIDE DRIVE PARK.
LET ME START BY EXPRESSING MY FRUSTRATION TOWARDS THE TOWN IN YOUR CONTINUED SPENDING SPRING IN REGARD TO THE JUPITER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
ALL WHILE THE ISSUE, ALLOWING RESIDENTS THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS STILL BEFORE A JUDGE.
WITH THAT SAID, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS WITH TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
EARLIER THIS WEEK WHEN THE AGENDA CAME OUT AND IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT TOWN COUNCIL WAS GOING TO VOTE ON BUILDING A FIRE STATION IN CINQUEZ PARK, I COULDN'T HELP BUT LAUGH.
BECAUSE I'VE SPENT COUNTLESS TUESDAY NIGHTS HERE AT THESE MEETINGS, LISTENING TO OUR COUNSEL PREACH TRANSPARENCY AND TRUTH, ONLY TO BE DISAPPOINTED ONCE AGAIN.
I WAS AT THE MEETING BACK IN DECEMBER AND LISTENED ATTENTIVELY AS THE MAYOR DECLARED THAT CINQUEZ PARK AND THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT WOULD NOT BE AN OPTION FOR JUPITER FIRE STATION.
YOUR OWN WORDS WERE THAT YOU DISCOUNTED THAT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, BUT THAT YOU HAD TO PUT SOMETHING DOWN.
YOU CONTINUED BY COMMENDING YOUR STAFF FOR PUTTING OUT UPDATES ON DEDICATED PAGES TO COUNTERACT MISINFORMATION COMING OUT FROM THE PACK.
YOU ALSO STATED HOW MUCH IT BOTHERS YOU THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU DON'T LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO WHERE EXACTLY IS THE MISINFORMATION COMING FROM? IF COUNSEL VOTES TO BUILD A FIRE STATION AT CINQUEZ PARK TONIGHT, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE MISINFORMATION CAME DIRECTLY FROM YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
THERE HAS BEEN A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY FROM THE BEGINNING.
NOW THE COMMUNITY CAN GO BACK ON THE WEBSITE AND WATCH THE MEETING ON DECEMBER 5, 2023, WHERE YOU DECLARED THAT CINQUEZ PARK WASN'T AN OPTION, AND THEY CAN SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHY THERE IS A LACK OF TRUST.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND THAT YOU CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK BECAUSE IF YOU DID, THIS WOULD HAVE GONE TO A VOTE MONTHS AGO. THANK YOU.
>> KAREN VINCENT, FOLLOWED BY MICKEY ISAACSON.
>> KAREN VINCENT,1003 SU STREET.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED TONIGHT, WHICH NORMALLY, I DO.
MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WHAT I PLAYS OFF OF HER IS THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY.
I'VE PREACHED THAT FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW SINCE ALL THIS STARTED.
I'VE BEEN TO ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING EXCEPT FOR WHEN I WAS OUT SICK.
MY BIGGEST THING WAS TRANSPARENCY.
YOU VERY BLATANTLY STATED AND PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE, CINQUEZ PARK WAS OFF THE TABLE.
THAT WAS A TOWN OF JUPITER POST, IT WAS IN THE MEETING FOR YOU TO TURN AROUND AND THEN SAY THAT, WE HAVE A LOOPHOLE.
WE'RE GOING TO USE THREE ACRES.
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT MAKES THE TOWN FEEL? WHY DO YOU THINK THAT EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN IS IN AN UPROAR AND MAD ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO START WITH BECAUSE IT REALLY NEVER WAS A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
I'VE BEEN HERE, AS YOU'LL HAVE, MADE SOME ATTEMPTS, AND YOU HAVE DONE ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST THAT ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE WOULD BE THE WORD THAT I WOULD USE.
IT GIVES PEOPLE A CHANCE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, TO HAVE A OPEN THING, TO REVISIT IT LATER, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS AND FEEL INCLUDED AND AT LEAST HALFWAY LISTENED TO.
TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, KNOWING THE OPPOSITION THAT THERE WAS AGAINST THIS AND TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT TODAY, YOU'RE ONLY PROVING ONE MORE TIME THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER DO NOT MATTER.
THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY AND IT IS AN OPAQUE GLASS THAT I'M STILL LOOKING THROUGH.
I AM SO DISAPPOINTED AND DISHEARTENED THAT YOU GUYS WOULD THINK THAT THAT IS OKAY TO GO BEHIND OUR BACK AND DO THAT AND THINK THAT YOU CAN VOTE ON IT AND NOT EVEN DISCUSS IT WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER. I'M VERY SAD.
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>> MICKEY ISAACSON, FOLLOWED BY AARON ACTESS.
>> GOOD EVENING, TOWN OF JUPITER PUBLIC SERVANTS.
I'M A PALM BEACH COUNTY RESIDENT, AT 11260 GLEN ORCHARD LANE, BOYNTON.
I, LIKE MANY OTHERS, BELIEVE THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN.
I'VE BEEN OBSERVING OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS AT THE SUPERVISORS ELECTION FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS OR ANY PARTY AFFILIATION.
THIS IS ABOUT STEALING ELECTIONS.
DON'T GIVE AWAY YOUR ELECTION TO WENDY LINK IN PALM BEACH COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.
IT LEAVES YOUR BALLOTS VULNERABLE.
YOU KNOW THAT THE SOES TABULATION CENTER WAS MOVED FROM RIVIERA BEACH TO WEST PALM BEACH IN THE MIDDLE OF A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR, AND SHE REFUSES TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO VIEW THE FACILITY.
I WOULD URGE YOU AND THE CITY COUNCIL LEADERSHIP AND YOUR RESIDENTS TO INSIST ON A TOUR SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS ARE TABULATED WITHOUT ID, NO CHAIN OF CUSTODY, AND MANY OTHER VULNERABILITIES? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT EDUCATING YOUR RESIDENTS BY OFFERING A WORKSHOP ON ELECTION INTEGRITY WITH YOUR RESIDENTS? IN THE PAST, OUR COUNTY, CITIES AND TOWNS HAD A CLEAR PATH TO FAIR AND HONEST ELECTIONS THROUGH THE MUNICIPALITIES.
IN THE PAST, PEOPLE WERE ELECTED, NOT SELECTED.
TODAY, CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE TAPPING THE OFFICIALS INTO PLACE WHILE HOLDING OR TAKING ELECTION AND TAPPING THE REST OF THE OFFICIALS, AND THEY'RE SELECTING THEM.
IN THE PAST, CITY CLERKS HAD TO VERIFY THEIR OWN VOTER ROLLS AND CERTIFY THE ELECTION RESULTS AND SECURE THE RESULTS IN THEIR MUNICIPALITIES.
THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TODAY.
TODAY, OUR ELECTIONS ARE PUT THROUGH A CENTRALIZED TABULATION CENTER AND CERTIFIED BY A SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.
SOE WAS APPOINTED AND TAPPED IN BY THE GOVERNOR, THEN SHE CHANGED HER PARTY AFFILIATION BEFORE RUNNING IN THE FOLLOWING ELECTION.
SHE HAS A $22 MILLION BUDGET FOR HER TABULATION CENTER AND SHE'S ASKING FOR ANOTHER 14 MILLION TO MOVE HER CENTER.
THESE ARE WHERE UNCERTIFIED MACHINES ARE USED AND CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET, AND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO CORRUPTION WITH USBS FLOATING EVERYWHERE IN THE TABULATION CENTER AND IN SHERIFF CARS ALL THROUGH THE COUNTY.
YOU PLUG THESE INTO COMPUTERS, THESE ARE WHERE YOUR VOTES ARE CAPTURED, AND THERE'S NOT A PAPER BALLOT.
YOU CAN CHANGE THE VOTE BY PUTTING THIS INTO A COMPUTER.
SHE'S CERTIFYING OUR ELECTIONS WITH 30 VOTER ROLES, NO CHAIN OF CUSTODY.
THE CITY MUNICIPALITY SHOULD BE CERTIFYING THE VOTER ROLES.
YOU GUYS KNOW WHO YOUR RESIDENTS ARE AND YOU CAN CERTIFY IF THEY'RE CITIZENS.
SHE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS FOR ALL OF OUR CITIES IN THE COUNTY OF PALM BEACH.
WE THE PEOPLE ARE AWAKE AND WE'RE WATCHING.
WE ARE WATCHING ALL 39 MUNICIPALITIES IN PALM BEACH COUNTY AND THE ILLEGAL ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES THAT YOU PAY INTO.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MRS. ACTESS.
I AM ACTUALLY A RESIDENT OF JUPITER.
WE SHARE OUR BEAUTIFUL PALM BEACH COUNTY FEDERAL ELECTIONS WITH MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE GOOD CONTROL OVER THEM.
THE GOAL OF MY PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY IS TO BEG THE MUNICIPALITIES TO RECLAIM THEIR ELECTIONS.
WE MUST ADDRESS VOTER ROLLS, ONLY AMERICAN CITIZENS VERIFIED TO REGISTER AND VOTE, PLUS THE RESULTS OF THE MARCH 19 ELECTION.
WE HAVE 60,000 POPULATION, 40,000 REGISTERED TO VOTE, AND WE HAVE 31,000 ACTIVE, WHICH IS 79%, WHICH IS NOT TOO BAD.
FOR THESE VOTERS, YOU HAVE 37 LOCATIONS WITH 23 PRECINCTS, WITH PRECINCT RANGE NUMBERS 3701-8408.
PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE PRIMARY, DONALD JOHN TRUMP WON PALM BEACH SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.
HER REGISTERED VOTERS WERE 503,000.
THE BALLOTS COUNTED WERE 112,000, AND THAT IS A 22% TURNOUT.
VERY BAD. FURTHER DATA AND PUBLIC RECORDS ARE NECESSARY TO EXAMINE FURTHER DETAILS OF INDIVIDUAL RACES BECAUSE THE DETAILS SHE HAS CONTAIN A DASH IF THE RESULTS OF THE CATEGORY VOTE BY MAIL, EARLY VOTING OR ELECTION DAY ARE BETWEEN 1 AND 29, A VIOLATION OF FLORIDA STATUTE 98.09812A FOR TRANSPARENCY.
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THE PUBLIC DESIGNEES WERE DENIED ACCESS TO ELECTION MATERIALS ACCORDING TO FLORIDA STATUTE 101.572.THESE ITEMS SHALL BE PROVIDED AS REASONABLE ACCESS DURING THE ACTIVE ELECTION, WHICH BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 5.
WHEN THE FIRST BALLOT WAS PROCESSED THROUGH THE BLUE CREST MACHINE, ARE THE VOTE EQUIPMENT CENTERS LOCATED IN RIVIERA BEACH.
NOW IT IS LOCATED IN WEST PALM ON CHERRY STREET.
WENDY HAS DENIED US ACCESS UNTIL 2025, BUT MAYBE SHE'LL ALLOW A TOUR FOR YOU.
WHEN THESE ARE PROCESSED THROUGH THE BLUE CREST MACHINE, THEY'RE CONSIDERED CAST, AND THERE IS NO VOTE WATCHERS PRESENT.
CONSIDER THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY HAS A CLERK, AND THAT CLERK SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PUBLIC RECORDS, INCLUDING VOTER ROLLS, VOTER REGISTRATION, ELECTION RESULTS, AND ALL ELECTION MATERIALS PERTAINING TO THEIR ELECTORS.
PARTICIPATION IN THE COUNTY CANVASSING BOARD IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
THE PROCESS HAS FAILED AND THE MUNICIPALITIES MUST RECLAIM THEIR ELECTIONS AND SERVE THE PEOPLE IN THIS CRITICAL CAPACITY. THANK YOU.
>> CANDACE ROJAS, FOLLOWED BY KYLE [INAUDIBLE].
>> GREETINGS, PUBLIC SERVANTS.
I RESIDE AT 3006 WATERSIDE CIRCLE IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA.
THE TOWN OF JUPITER APPEARS TO BE A VIBRANT AND BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
I'M CERTAIN THERE ARE MANY GOOD LEADERS HERE WHO HAVE NOT COMMITTED TREASON.
BUT REGARDLESS, I MUST SPEAK BOLDLY TO INTERCEDE FOR THOSE WITHOUT A VOICE TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND RESTORE THE REPUBLIC.
WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY MAY SEEM SHOCKING TO THOSE WHO ONLY WATCH FAKE NEWS AND BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS FINE.
BUT WHENEVER ANY GOVERNMENT BECOMES DESTRUCTIVE, IT IS THE DUTY OF THE PEOPLE TO ABOLISH IT.
I'M HERE TO PUT YOU ALL ON NOTICE AS A SOVEREIGN AMERICAN AND REQUEST YOUR OATHS AND BONDS, WHICH IS A PRE-STEP TO ACTIVATE THE MILITARY.
I BELIEVE THE MILITARY IS THE ONLY WAY BECAUSE THE ENTIRE POLITICAL SYSTEM IS BROKEN.
OUR ELECTIONS ARE NOT SECURE AND OUR LEADERS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, HAVE IGNORED EVIDENCE OF ELECTION VULNERABILITIES HERE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
FOXES ARE GUARDING THE HENHOUSE.
THE CONSTITUTION STATES THAT ALL OF THE POWER, NOT SOME OF THE POWER, BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, NOT THE EMPLOYEES.
IT STATES THAT FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING, AB INITIO.
IF YOU'VE NOT ALREADY HEARD, THERE'S A SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF THE OLD GUARD.
A PARADIGM SHIFT IS TAKING PLACE ALL ACROSS THE NATION.
NO MORE GENERATIONAL POLITICAL NEPOTISM, NO MORE SECRET SOCIETIES CONTROLLING THE MASSES, NO MORE APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS VIA THE TAP FROM SECRET SOCIETY HANDSHAKES.
DID YOU KNOW THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY IS AN ILLEGAL FOREIGN CORPORATION CALLED THE PALM BEACH COUNTY CHARTER, AND JUPITER IS PART OF THAT CHARTER? ALSO, THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS A MEMBER OF THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, WHICH IS A COMPLETE CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AND YOUR WEBSITE PROMOTES YOUR CITY AS WINNING A GLOBALIST AWARD AND IS ACTUALLY PROUD OF THIS.
YOU USE YOUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO PAY DUES TO GLOBALIST ORGANIZATIONS WITH CONNECTIONS TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM, CRIMINAL CARTEL WHOSE PRIMARY MISSION IS POPULATION CONTROL.
THIS TELLS ME YOU ALL NEED TO BE RETRAINED.
THE TOWN OF JUPITER OFFICIALS ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION OR COMMON LAW.
INSTEAD, YOU'RE OPERATING UNDER MARITIME LAW AND USING FAKE STATUTES TO PENALIZE THE PEOPLE WHEN STATUTES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USED TO CONTROL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOURSELVES.
YOU CHARGE ILLEGAL TAXES, FINES, CITATIONS, TRAFFIC TICKETS, AND FEES, AND USE RESTRICTIVE BOARDS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO KEEP CONSTITUENTS IN COMPLIANCE.
DURING THE MARCH 2020, COVID PANDEMIC SCAMDEMIC, MANY PEOPLE HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY BY LOCKING DOWN PEOPLE, CLOSING PUBLIC SPACES AND BUSINESSES.
THANK YOU. THESE ARE YOUR NOTICES.
I LIVE AT 17579 CARVER AVENUE, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CINQUEZ DOG PARK.
LAST WEEK, MY NEIGHBORS ALL GOT TOGETHER AND I WAS INFORMED LAST MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROSPECTIVE FIRE STATION THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ACROSS THE STREET.
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TO MY SURPRISE, I HAD MALISE SHOW UP, FRANK, AND ALSO THE CHIEF.I DON'T THINK THEY WERE COUNTING ON ME BEING THERE EITHER, BUT THEY WERE ALSO STATING THAT OR THEY WERE TRYING TO QUELL EVERYBODY'S WORRIES ABOUT ALL THE LIGHTS AND SIRENS AND HORNS AND SAYING THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ACTIVATING THOSE ON THE APRON.
HOWEVER, I KNOW THAT'S AGAINST POLICY AND IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
INDIANTOWN ROAD IS VERY HEAVY LADEN WITH TRAFFIC.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT UNLESS YOU'RE DOING THAT.
I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AS WELL, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE DOING THOSE.
IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, IT'S AGAINST POLICY, AND THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE WERE ALL WORRIED ABOUT WAS PARKING.
THEY SHOWED US THE PLANS THAT THEY HAD THERE AND SAID PARKING WOULD BE ALL ALONG THE APRON.
YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE APRON THAT EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONDING IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER, POTENTIALLY BLOCKING THINGS UP.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON IN THAT BIG FIELD OVER THERE.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE HOST BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND IT DOES BLOCK UP THAT ROAD SOMETIMES.
I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT THIS WAS A DIVORCE BETWEEN PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND JUPITER FIRE.
LIKE ALL DIVORCES, THE VICTIMS ARE THE KIDS, REFERRING TO THE COMMUNITY AS BEING THE KIDS.
WHAT I SAID TO THAT WAS, SHOULDN'T KIDS HAVE A SAY IN THIS? I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE NOT LETTING US SPEAK.
MS. MALISE SAID HERE THAT WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY'S PARK.
THEY HAVE PUT OVER $200,000 INTO THAT AND WE CAN'T JUST COMPETE WITH THAT.
IT WOULD BE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO THINK THE KIDS, THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN THIS BECAUSE LIKE CHIEF SAID OVER THERE, WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING HURT.
PALM BEACH COUNTY HAS A GREAT TRACK RECORD.
WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE CARDIAC RISK DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
I HAVE A THREE-YEAR-OLD, A WIFE AT HOME, AND I'M AWAY EVERY THIRD DAY, AND I HONESTLY DO NOT FEEL SAFE LEAVING THEM IN YOUR CARE.
I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.
YOU GUYS DO NOT HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD. PALM BEACH COUNTY DOES.
YOU GUYS ARE JUST SPENDING MONEY BLINDLY TRYING TO GET TO A POINT OF NO RETURN AND PROBABLY HOPING THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE LIKE, WE ALREADY GOT HERE, LET'S FINISH IT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. PLEASE PUT IT TO A VOTE. STOP SPENDING MY MONEY.
>> THAT WAS THE END OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.
>> COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEFORE US THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 7TH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
[1. May 7, 2024 Town Council Meeting Minutes]
I DON'T SEE ANY CORRECTIONS ON THE DIAS.UNLESS THERE'S ANY CORRECTIONS, I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THIS IS ITEMS 2-10 ON THE AGENDA.IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANTED TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?
>> YES. WE HAVE MASON TORRES IS PULLING ITEM 6 AND KAREN VINCENT AND KRISTEN HENRY ARE PULLING ITEM 10.
>> TOWN MANAGER? ANYBODY ON COUNCIL?
>> I WAS GOING TO PULL ITEM 10.
>> I'LL HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON APPROVING THE AMENDED AGENDA, WHICH EXCLUDES ITEM 6 AND 10.
>> I'D ASK THE TOWN MANAGER TO READ ORDINANCE 524 ON SHORT TITLE. TOWN ATTORNEY. EXCUSE ME.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ORDINANCE 524, AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF JUPITER FLORIDA, AMENDING THE TOWN'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.72 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF TOWN HALL AVENUE AND CALLEN DRIVE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT TO THE CONSERVATION PRESERVATION ZONING DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF LAWS IN CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE AMENDED CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[6. Adopting the Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Strategic Plan.]
PULLED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.[00:35:02]
>> GOOD EVENING, HONOURABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THE RECORD, MASON TORRES, 6814 MITCHELL STREET, LIMESTONE CREEK RESIDENT.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING REGARDING BICYCLE SAFETY.
I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING TWO MONTHS LATE TO BICYCLE MONTH.
MY WIFE GAVE BIRTH TO ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL BABY BOY IN MARCH, AND I HAVEN'T HAD A GOOD NIGHT SLEEP SINCE THEN.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE TOWN AND POLICE FOR THEIR PUBLIC OUTREACH CAMPAIGN TO INFORM RIDERS ABOUT E-BIKE SAFETY.
I'D LIKE TO SUPPLEMENT THAT KNOWLEDGE WITH BICYCLE SAFETY EXAMPLES FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
AS MAYOR KURETSKI ONCE SAID, JUPITER DOES NOT NEED A PILOT PROGRAM IF A POLICY IS ALREADY PROVEN ELSEWHERE.
AS AN ADOPTER OF VISION ZERO, WE KNOW THAT EVERY TRAFFIC FATALITY, PEDESTRIAN OR OTHERWISE, IS PREVENTABLE.
THE MOST VULNERABLE PEDESTRIANS ARE CHILDREN AND THE ELDERLY.
ACCORDING TO THE PALM BEACH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY, TWO THIRDS OF PEOPLE WOULD RIDE THEIR BIKES FOR DAILY TRIPS IF IT WAS SAFER.
THIS IS BACKED UP BY A RECENT NATIONWIDE STUDY CONDUCTED BY REI CO-OP AND PEOPLEFORBIKES.
NOW, I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, AND SO IS THE MAYOR, COUNCILOR FORE, DIRECTOR HERNANDEZ.
I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHERS IN THE ROOM.
BY REVIEWING THE ENGINEERING HIERARCHY OF CONTROLS, WE CAN REVIEW WHERE EXISTING POLICY FALLS ON THE CHART FROM LEAST TO MOST EFFECTIVE AT INJURY AND FATALITY PREVENTION.
THE LEAST EFFECTIVE CONTROL IS PPE.
USE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, SUCH AS BIKE HELMETS OR REFLECTOR VESTS.
THE LAW SAYS CHILDREN UNDER 16 MUST WEAR A HELMET, SO THAT'S GOOD.
THE NEXT MOST EFFECTIVE CONTROL IS ADMINISTRATION, CHANGE THE WAY PEOPLE BEHAVE.
THE JUPITER POLICE PUBLISHED A BULLETIN ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE ABOUT BICYCLE RULES AND SAFETY.
EXCELLENT. NEXT IS ENGINEERING CONTROLS, ISOLATE PEOPLE FROM THE HAZARD.
THINK BUFFERED BIKE LANES AND SIDEWALKS.
THIS IS HELPFUL, BUT A STRIPE OF PAINT WON'T STOP A DELINQUENT DRIVER IN A TWO TON SUV.
REPLACE THE HAZARD, REPLACE THE STRIPE OF PAINT WITH A PROTECTED BIKE LANE, WITH A HARD BARRIER, SUCH AS CURBS, CONCRETE BARRIERS, STREET PARKING, AND TREES.
LASTLY, THE MOST EFFECTIVE ENGINEERING CONTROL IS ELIMINATION.
REMOVE THE HAZARD, REMOVE THE CONFLICT POINTS BETWEEN DRIVERS AND CYCLISTS.
THIS WOULD BE AN OFF ROAD SHARED USE PATH OR GREENWAY.
WOULDN'T IT BE LOVELY FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES IF EVERY PARK, SCHOOL, NEIGHBORHOOD, CENTER, AND GROCERY STORE WERE CONNECTED BY AN OFF STREET SHARED USE PATH? THE BEST EXAMPLE OF BICYCLE SAFETY IS THE NETHERLANDS WITH THE WORLD'S HIGHEST RIDERSHIP.
THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION COMPARED AMERICAN AND DUTCH STREET DESIGN, AN 80-PAGE REPORT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW KEY DESIGN DIFFERENCES.
THE PEDESTRIAN ALWAYS HAS PRIORITY.
MOST SIDEWALKS ARE CONTINUOUS.
EVERY CURB CUT IS A SPEED BUMP.
CARS AND BICYCLES ARE SEPARATED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THIRTY SECONDS, PLEASE. CARS AND BICYCLES ARE SEPARATED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WHERE CARS AND BICYCLE SHARE ROAD, THE BICYCLE LANE IS PROTECTED BY A HARD BARRIER.
SPEED LIMITS ARE BELOW 20 MILES PER HOUR IN URBAN AREAS.
COMPREHENSIVE BICYCLE NETWORKS CONNECT URBAN CENTERS, PUBLIC TRANSIT, AND BICYCLE ONLY HIGHWAYS.
WE ALL KNOW CONCRETE ASPHALT AND LABOR IS EXPENSIVE.
HOWEVER, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MUCH CHEAPER THAN CAR INFRASTRUCTURE.
I THINK THAT IF THE TOWN OF JUPITER CAN SPEND 18 MILLION ON ITS HIGHWAY EXIT, IT CAN AFFORD TO SPEND MORE TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS, OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU.
>> DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE I MOVE HERE TO ACCEPT THAT MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT THE STRATEGIC PLAN?
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO PUBLIC BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER 10,
[10. Approving the purchase order for three (3) used Chevrolet Tahoes and associated equipment for Fire Rescue from Jupiter Inlet Colony in the amount of $113,339.]
PULLED BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR MAY.I ASK THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
>> KAREN VINCENT, FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN HENRY.
>> KAREN VINCENT, 1003 SIOUX STREET.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY REALIZES IT OR NOT, BUT I AM AGAINST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR JUPITER.
YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PROVIDE THE EXACT SAME SERVICE AND THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GET TOP OF THE LINE EQUIPMENT AND YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS GOOD.
BUT YOU HAVE A THING ON THE AGENDA TODAY TO GO BUY THREE USED POLICE CARS FROM
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ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT'S GETTING RID OF THEM BECAUSE THEIR GAS HOGS AND THEIR MAINTENANCE IS HIGH.THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR LIFESPAN.
YOU'RE SPENDING I DON'T KNOW, 119,000.
BUT YOU'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT BUYING SECOND RATE EQUIPMENT.
THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE OUTFITTED FOR WHATEVER USE YOU PLAN ON DOING BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO COME FULLY EQUIPPED AND IT'S GOING FROM A POLICE CAR TO SOMETHING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
HOW MUCH MORE MONEY ARE YOU GOING TO SPEND DOING THAT? YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY UNTIL IT COMES TO A POINT THAT YOU SAY WE'RE BEYOND THE POINT OF ANY RETURN, IRREGARDLESS OF HOW MANY TIMES EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY KEEPS COMING UP HERE, SPENDING THEIR TIME, COMING UP HERE TO TRY AND BEG AND MAKE IT KNOWN THAT WE WANT IT FOR A VOTE.
IF THE PEOPLE VOTE FOR IT, THEN SO BE IT.
IF THE PEOPLE DO NOT, THEN IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO PALM BEACH COUNTY, RENEGOTIATE A CONTRACT, DO WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BY THE TIME THAT YOU GET A FIRE DEPARTMENT IN HERE, AND THE TOWN OF JUPITER AT THE RATE THAT IT'S STILL GROWING BECAUSE WE KEEP CHANGING BUSINESS PROPERTY ZONING OVER TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP ADDING PEOPLE HERE.
YOUR POPULATION IS STILL GOING TO GROW.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A BIGGER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S ALREADY OUTGROWN THREE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THREE FIRE STATIONS CANNOT SERVICE THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
LOOK AT WHAT PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE DOES ON THEIR CALLS.
YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND YOU NEED TO TRY AND RE-EVALUATE AND DO WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE ASKING.
AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO LOOK LIKE YOU'RE DOING WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE ASKING.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCILOR.
KRISTEN HENRY, 109 MAJORCA WAY, JUPITER.
I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED TONIGHT.
SO IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE SCATTERED, BUT I DID WANT TO BRING UP THE AGENDA ITEM ABOUT THE PURCHASING THEY USED CHEVY TAHOES.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT VIEW ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW AS KAREN MENTIONED, THE TOWN OF HARWICH DID MENTION THAT THEY WERE GETTING RID OF THESE CURRENT VEHICLES, WHICH WERE ONLY A FEW YEARS OLD DUE TO THE HIGH MAINTENANCE AND THE COST OF GAS.
IN THAT CASE I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE ARE NOT.
I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO PURCHASE SMALLER VEHICLES FOR THEM.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS AN OPTION FOR US BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TAKING ON SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE GETTING RID OF BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS, WHY WE'D WANT TO INCREASE THE COST.
I'M SORRY, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT PREPARED BUT I ALSO WAS WONDERING, I KNOW THERE'S A CAR NOW CIRCULATING.
I KNOW IT WAS SPOTTED TODAY THAT THERE WAS ALREADY AN SUV OUT THERE ON THE ROAD, SO I WAS WONDERING WHY WE WERE PURCHASING THREE CHEVY TAHOES LIKE I SAID, JUST CURIOUS ON WHY WE CAN'T PURCHASE SOMETHING SMALLER ANYWAY AND GET A NEWER ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE LESS OR MORE COST EFFECTIVE.
AGAIN, I DON'T APPROVE OBVIOUSLY OF THE CONTINUED SPENDING.
I KNOW IN JUNE WE HAVE A PRE-TRIAL AND A TRIAL COMING UP TO STILL, NOT THAT COULD POSSIBLY PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO VOTE.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE CONTINUE TO SPEND THE MONEY WITHOUT THIS GOING THROUGH FIRST, SO.
>> NO QUESTIONS, MORE OR LESS JUST COMMENTS.
IN BUILDING THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT I WOULD RATHER HAVE TOP OF THE LINE NEWER THINGS, THINGS THAT ARE UNDER WARRANTY.
AT LEAST ONE OF THESE CARS IS PROBABLY ALREADY OUT OF WARRANTY, AND THE OTHER TWO ARE PROBABLY COMING UP AT THE END OF THEIR WARRANTY SPAN.
SO IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR US TO MAINTAIN THESE THINGS IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, AND IT'S OUT OF WARRANTY.
SO I WOULD JUST PREFER THAT WE WOULD ORDER THE THREE NEW TAHOES AS OPPOSED TO PURCHASING USED EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IF WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING FROM THE GROUND UP, WE SHOULD BE PURCHASING BRAND NEW EQUIPMENT.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S PROBABLY FOR THE COMMAND STAFF FOR THE TWO CHIEFS THAT AT LEAST WE HAVE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO COMMUTE.
I WOULD PREFER AT LEAST SINCE THE ORDER TIME IS 4-6 MONTHS, AT LEAST OVER THE NEXT 4-6 MONTHS WE COULD PROVIDE A VEHICLE STIPEND TO THE CHIEF AND THE DEPUTY CHIEF.
THAT IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS FOR COMMUTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND I WOULD PREFER TO SEE US GO WITH THE SHERIFF'S CONTRACT ORDER BRAND NEW TAHOES IF WE WERE GOING TO ORDER EQUIPMENT.
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>> THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED ON THE VEHICLES WAS THAT THEY WERE, WELL FIRST OF ALL WITH THE COMMENTS MADE, THESE ARE FROM JUPITER INLET COLONY AND THEY WERE PURCHASED BY A FORMER POLICE CHIEF.
HE'S GONE. OUR FORMER POLICE CHIEF IS NOW THEIR POLICE CHIEF AND THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THE VEHICLES. THEY DON'T NEED THEM.
HOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE IN JUPITER INLET COLONY? 500, MAYBE.
SO WHAT ARE THE MILES ON THE VEHICLES? 6,000?
>> I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT MILEAGE, BUT THEY'RE VERY LOW MILEAGE.
>> IT'S A VERY LOW MILEAGE. THEY'RE STILL UNDER WARRANTY?
>> YEAH. THEY REALLY ARE INTERESTED IN DOWNSIZING BECAUSE THE VEHICLES ARE TOO LARGE FOR THEIR JURISDICTION.
>> SO THAT'S WHAT STARTED THAT.
>> IF YOU'VE BEEN TO JUPITER INLET COLONY, IT'S A LITTLE SPIT AT THE END OF JUPITER ISLAND.
IT'S TINY. SO THEY DON'T NEED THE VEHICLES.
I'M OKAY WITH PURCHASING THEM AS LONG AS THEY'RE LOW MILEAGE AND IN GOOD CONDITION, AND IT'S A SAVINGS OF MONEY FOR THE TOWN, YOU DON'T TAKE THAT SHOW ROOM HIT.
SO I MEAN I'D BE INTERESTED IN WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
>> DO WE WANT A PRESENTATION OR TO HAVE STAFF SPEAK TO ANYTHING THEY HEARD JUST IN CASE THEY HAVE RESPONSE? IS THERE ANY?
>> [INAUDIBLE] FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
I WORKED WITH THE CHIEF ON THIS.
WE WERE APPROACHED BY CHIEF KERR OF JUPITER INLET COLONY THAT THEY HAD THESE VEHICLES THAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO LIQUIDATE BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE SIZE OF INLET COLONY VERY SMALL.
THESE VEHICLES ARE MUCH LARGER.
SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO DOWNSIZE TO A MUCH SMALLER VEHICLE.
THEY FEEL THAT IT WOULD BETTER SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN THESE VEHICLES, THEY ARE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.
YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE IS EQUIPMENT IN THE VEHICLE THAT ONCE WE GO TO RE-OUTFIT THEM, SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT WILL BE REPURPOSED THROUGH THE DEALER THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH TO OUTFIT THEM AS FIRE TRUCKS OR FIRE VEHICLES.
I WILL TELL YOU, AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERN ABOUT THE CHIEF AND THE DEPUTY CHIEF, THEY CURRENTLY ARE DRIVING VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE DEPUTY CHIEF'S VEHICLE.
WE DID RECEIVE THAT EARLIER AND THE CHIEF'S VEHICLE SHOULD BE HERE VERY SHORTLY THAT WE HAD ORDERED EARLY ON.
SO THAT SHOULD BE HERE VERY SHORTLY.
BUT HE IS DRIVING A STAFF CAR, SO YOU KNOW.
>> JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE.
WHAT WOULD THESE THREE TAHOES BE UTILIZED FOR?
>> WHAT WOULD THESE THREE TAHOES BE UTILIZED FOR JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE?
>> WE HAD PROGRAMMED INTO THE FY-25 BUDGET WE WERE GOING TO ASK FOR THREE VEHICLES OR ACTUALLY FOUR VEHICLES, I'M SORRY.
THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME OUR WAY WHERE WE COULD SAVE WELL OVER $100,000 BY PURCHASING THESE USED ONES THAT ARE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.
WE FELT IT WAS A GOOD SAVINGS OF TAX DOLLARS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS, YOU'D ASK ABOUT THE MILEAGE.
ON ONE OF THE ATTACHMENT, WE'RE PURCHASING THE VEHICLES FOR THE DEPRECIATED VALUE, ALONG WITH THE ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT.
THE MILEAGE IS ATTACHED TO THAT.
WE HAVE TWO 2023 VEHICLES, AND ONE IS A 2019 VEHICLE.
THE 2019 VEHICLE, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IS JUST OVER 17,000 MILES, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF MILES.
THE REST IS 9,600 AND THE OTHER ONE IS AROUND 10,000 MILES.
>> IN THE TIMELINE FOR FIRE, YOU'RE SAYING IT WAS IN THE BUDGET FOR 2025 OR IT'S PLANNED FOR 2025 AND THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME UP, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
WHAT IS THE USE OR WHERE DOES IT FIT INTO THE LONGER TIMELINE FOR OCTOBER 2026? DO WE HAVE THAT? JUST WHAT THE USE OF THE VEHICLE IS FOR.
>> NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
>> THE BUILDOUT OF THE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE THIS DEADLINE OF OCTOBER OF 2026, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.
NOW, WE HAVE OUR LONG-TERM TIMELINE. I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME.
THIS EXPENSE WOULD HAVE COME UP IN 2025 HAD WE NOT HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY, WHICH I RECOGNIZE..
IN 2025, WHAT WAS THE PURCHASE FOR? WHAT ELSE WAS BEING PURCHASED AROUND THAT TIME, OR WHAT STAFFING WAS BEING DONE? WHAT WAS THEIR USE TO GO WITH THE TIMING OF THAT PURCHASE?
>> I'LL ACTUALLY LET THE CHIEF ADDRESS THAT ABOUT THE STAFFING THAT'S COMING UP.
>> VICE MAYOR WHILE HE'S DOING THAT,
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THERE IS A QUESTION ON THE USE OF THE VEHICLES.I'M GIVEN THIS PERSPECTIVE FROM HAVING OUTFITTED HUNDREDS OF POLICE VEHICLES, EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES.
THESE ARE GENERAL PURPOSE, DESIGNED FOR COMMAND STAFF, DESIGNED FOR SCENE MANAGEMENT, DESIGNED FOR TRAINING, A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.
I THINK COUNCILOR MAY COULD PROBABLY ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT CHEVY TAHOES AND WHAT THEY'RE USED FOR AND THESE FOR GENERAL PURPOSES.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT LIKE COUNCILOR MAY, I'M VERY PARTICULAR.
I WOULD NEVER WANT TO SEE ANYTHING SECONDHAND.
THESE VEHICLES, I'VE LOOKED AT THESE, THEY COME FULLY EQUIPPED.
THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN THEM, INCLUDING THE LIGHT BARS, AND THEY'RE JUST TOO BIG FOR THAT JURISDICTION.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM.
IF YOU WASN'T GOING TO GET THEM FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WOULD PUT POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS RUNNING CODE, HIGH SPEEDS, DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND WE ALL KNOW, AND I THINK COUNCILOR MAY AND THE FIRE CHIEF WILL WILL ALSO BEAR TO THIS, IS IT'S CHALLENGING TO GET VEHICLES IN TODAY'S MARKET, VERY CHALLENGING.
THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME OUR WAY. WE DID OUR HOMEWORK.
WE'VE SEEN THE VEHICLES, WE'VE INSPECTED THEM, AND THEY DEFINITELY WOULD FIT FOR US MOVING FORWARD.
IF I HAVEN'T ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILOR, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
>> I'M SURE CHIEF CAN GO INTO IT.
I'M ASSUMING THEY'D BE USED FOR A COMMAND STAFF, WHICH I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT PURCHASING THOSE VEHICLES NOW FOR COMMAND, WHICH ISN'T GOING TO START RUNNING UNTIL OCTOBER '26 ANYWAYS.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THE VEHICLE SIT.
IF ANYTHING, LIKE I SAID, I'D RATHER SEE US WAIT, PURCHASE THE VEHICLES BRAND NEW.
I'D EVEN SAY PURCHASE THESE TAHOES AND UPGRADE THE CANINE UNITS FOR JUPITER POLICE BECAUSE I KNOW ONE OF AT LEAST IS RUNNING AN OLDER EXPLORER.
I'D RATHER SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO PURCHASE THESE ANYWAYS IN AN EFFORT TO SAVE MONEY IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THE POLICE TAHOES ANYWAY.
>> WE DO HAVE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I BELIEVE THE EXPLORER THAT THE CANINE IS RUNNING ASKED FOR THE EXPLORER.
I WAS A PREVIOUS HANDLER, WHETHER THAT WAS PASSED DOWN, I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE IS A TIMELINE FOR HIRING STAFF AND TRAINING AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW THAT GOES INTO THIS PROJECT AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON IT.
I ASSURE YOU THESE VEHICLES WILL NOT BE SITTING STILL.
THEY WILL BE PUT TO GOOD USE AND WE DO HAVE A TIMELINE MOVING FORWARD.
I'VE SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, THIS COUNCIL HAS GIVEN ME A DIRECTION.
AT 12:01 A.M ON OCTOBER 1T, 2026, WE HAVE TO BE READY TO GO.
UNTIL THIS COUNCIL OR COURT OR SOMEONE ELSE TELLS ME TO STOP, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR MISSION.WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETE OUR MISSION AND DO OUR JOB.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PURCHASE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO MOVE THIS ENDEAVOR FORWARD.
>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL, DARREL DONATTO, FIRE CHIEF.
WITH RESPECT TO THE STAFF, WE DID HAVE, IN OUR 2025 BUDGET, PROGRAMMED IN FOUR ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS WHO WOULD BE UTILIZING A VEHICLE.
WE PROGRAMMED INTO THAT BUDGET, AS WELL, THE PURCHASE OF FOUR VEHICLES.
WHEN THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME UP, IT WAS JUST A GREAT TIME BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING READY TO HAVE TO START THE PURCHASE OF THOSE VEHICLES NOW BECAUSE IT TAKES AT LEAST 4-6 MONTHS TO GET A STAFF VEHICLE THESE DAYS OFF THE SHERIFF'S BID.
THIS OPPORTUNITY AFFORDED US TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER, BUT REALLY, THE BIG THING IS IT'S SAVING THE TOWN OVER $100,000 IN THIS PURCHASE FOR A VERY SIMILAR VEHICLE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE FOR A STAFF FUNCTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
WE DO HAVE FOUR STAFF MEMBERS PROGRAMS THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT PROPOSED BUDGET.
WE'RE PROGRAMMING IN THE VEHICLES FOR THOSE STAFF MEMBERS.
THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE THE TOWN $102,000, I BELIEVE IT IS, TO ACCOMPLISH THAT TASK.
>> THE RED DOT READS ITS OFF. IT MAKES NO SENSE.
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>> DIDN'T COME WITH INSTRUCTIONS.
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, STUPID.
THERE ARE DEFINITELY TWO TRAINS OF THOUGHT.
I'VE SEEN THIS MY WHOLE LIFE, USED CARS VERSUS NEW CARS.
MY DAD TAUGHT ME THE PATH OF THE LATTER, USED CARS.
THE FIRST 10,000 MILES OF A CAR, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S BOUGHT A NEW CAR AND TURNED IT BACK IN IN 10,000 MILES, YOU'VE LOST ONE THIRD OF THE VALUE.
BUYING USED CARS IS A SMART THING TO DO FOR AN INDIVIDUAL.
I'VE PERSONALLY HAVE BOUGHT FOUR USED CARS, HAD THE MEANS TO BUY NEW CARS, BUT I LET SOMEBODY ELSE TAKE THAT HIT.
A 10,000 MILE CAR IS A GREAT CAR.
I'VE NOT PERSONALLY INSPECTED THESE, BUT TWO OF THEM ARE 2023S.
ONE OF THEM IS A 2019 WITH 17,000 MILES, BUT THE OTHER TWO WITH 10,000 MILES OR LESS, THAT'S THE SWEET SPOT OF A USED CAR.
THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN GET THE ABSOLUTE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK OF THE MONEY SPENT ON CARS.
FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I'M FULLY BEHIND IT.
I'M WITH YOU, COUNCILOR MAY THAT WHAT ARE THESE GOING TO BE DOING SITTING AROUND? I HOPE NOT. I HOPE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SITTING AROUND.
APPARENTLY, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME MONTHS TO GET IT PREP FOR USE, BUT OTHERWISE, I DON'T LIKE TO SEE A PIECE OF CAPITAL EQUIPMENT SITTING AROUND NOT BEING USED.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A IMMEDIATE USE FOR IT AFTER THE RE RIGGING? CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE?
>> THE PROCESS IS THAT TOMORROW MORNING WE WILL ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER TO JUPITER IN COLLIN AND THERE WILL BE A BILL OF SALE THAT WILL BE SIGNED OFF, AND THEN WE WILL GO GET THE TAGS.
NOW, I WILL TELL YOU WHETHER THEY ARE NEW VEHICLES OR USED VEHICLES.
THE OUTFITTING OF THE VEHICLES, EVEN WITH THE POLICE VEHICLES, IT TAKES TIME.
THERE IS A BACKLOG IN THE AREA FOR THE OUTFITTING OF THE VEHICLE, SO IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME.
EVEN THOUGH THESE VEHICLES, WE'LL HAVE THEM IN OUR POSSESSION EARLY ON, IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE WHILE BEFORE WE CAN GET THEM OUTFITTED.
WHETHER IT'S BRAND NEW OR USED, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.
>> WILL WE HAVE A USE FORM, THOUGH, AFTER? SAY, IT TAKES THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TO GET THEM OUTFITTED, WHAT WILL THEY BE USED FOR UNTIL 2026?
>> WELL, THE FIRST THING IS THAT WE WOULD TAKE OFF THE STRIPING OFF THE VEHICLES, AND THEN WE CAN USE THEM FOR EITHER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR OTHER AREAS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. I WOULD SAY THAT IN TERMS OF WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE USED, THE FY 2025 BUDGETS COME IN BEFORE YOU SHORTLY.
IN THAT BUDGET, WE'RE PROPOSING TO HIRE SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF, AND WE HAVE A TIMELINE, AND THREE OF THOSE STAFF WILL BE IN OCTOBER.
>> YEAH. PROVIDED EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET, THOSE STAFF WILL BE IN THOSE VEHICLES IN OCTOBER AND BY THEN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THEM UP AND READY TO GO.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S DOVE TELLING ACTUALLY NICELY.
>> IT'LL TAKE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS TO GET THEM OUTFITTED.
IT LOOKS LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS WE'LL NEED THEM. THAT LOOKS GOOD.
MY SECOND THOUGHT MAYBE JUST GOES BACK TO YOU, SCOTT.
A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB AS WE GO THROUGH VEHICLE, WE TRADE THEM IN.
WE GET VALUE FOR THEM FROM THE DEALER WHEN WE TRADE THEM IN.
I WILL TELL YOU THE TOWN UTILIZES THEIR VEHICLES UNTIL REALLY THE DEPRECIATED VALUE IS VERY MINIMAL.
THEY GO TO AUCTION, IS WHAT WE DO WITH THE TOWN VEHICLES.
>> WE ANTICIPATE USING THESE FOR SEVERAL YEARS?
>> IN REALITY, POLICE CARS LOOKING AT BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10 YEARS OF LIFE.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. THANK YOU.
>> WE MONITOR THAT, SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY, WHENEVER WE DO THE VEHICLE PURCHASE AND THAT'S BROUGHT FORWARD TO US, WE'RE GIVEN A FULL ACCOUNTING OF YOU CAN ASK ABOUT THE MILEAGE FOR THE VEHICLES.
THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK WITH JPD, THEY'RE REGULARLY LOOKING AT MAINTENANCE, SO THESE ARE VERY REGULARLY INSPECTED FOR PERFORMANCE.
IF THEY ARE NOT PERFORMING, THERE ARE THREE CRITERIA THEY LOOK AT, THEN THEY WILL DISPOSE OF IT.
>> I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES 4-1, WITH COUNCILOR MAY OPPOSING.
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>> MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA,
[11. KB Carlin]
PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA NUMBER 11.>> EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, GEORGE MISSIMER WITH COTLEUR & HEARING FOR THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WE HAVE TWO REQUESTS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
ONE IS A SMALL-SCALE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT AND THEN A REZONING CONCURRENTLY.
THE PROPERTY OWNER, REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TONIGHT WITH KB CARLIN LLC, MYSELF AND DONALDSON HEARING ARE HERE TONIGHT AS THE AGENTS AND PLANNERS AND OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS KIMLEY HORN.
AGAIN, AS I SAID, WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SMALL-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 1.62 ACRES LOCATED WITHIN THE US HIGHWAY 1 CORRIDOR OF THE JUPITER CRA.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF US-1 JUST NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF US-1 AND INDIANTOWN ROAD AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT AT TOWN HALL.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH END OF THE JUPITER OXBOW JUST NORTH OF THE HARBORSIDE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE CORNERSTONE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY AT THE INTERSECTION OF INDIAN TOWN AND US-1.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT CORNERSTONE AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH HARBORSIDE.
AGAIN, THE SITE AREA 1.62 ACRES, THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL WITH A EXISTING ZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE TO MIXED USE AND MODIFY THE ZONING TO THE US-1 INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY DISTRICT.
NOW, THE REZONING IS A TECHNICAL REQUIREMENT FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CRA.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THAT CODE, AND IT IS WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT SUBDISTRICT OF THAT CODE.
NOW, THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DOES NOT PERMIT ANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF EITHER MIXED USE OR ANY DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE REQUESTING TO MODIFY THAT LAND USE TO INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL AS PART OF OUR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, WHICH IS BEEN SUBMITTED TO STAFF.
AGAIN, JUST GOING OVER THE PROPERTY LOCATION WITHIN THE US HIGHWAY 1 CORRIDOR.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST TO THE NORTH OF HARBORSIDE AS WE DISCUSSED.
NOW, THE COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT SUBDISTRICT AND COMMERCIAL LAND USE REALLY REQUIRE THAT THE SITE WOULD HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED FOR PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL USE, BASED ON THE LAND AREA ITSELF BEING ONLY 1.62 ACRES.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S ABOUT AN ACRE OF WETLAND ON THE SITE.
OUR FOOTPRINT FOR DEVELOPABLE AREA GETS SMALLER AND SMALLER AT THE CLOSER YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, SO TO CREATE A MEANINGFUL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE BEING RIGHT NEXT TO US-1 AND THE RIDGE THAT GOES OVER THE JUPITER OXBOW IS SIGNIFICANTLY DEPRESSED.
BEFORE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ELEVATED.
THEN AGAIN, THE AREA THAT'S BUILDABLE ON THE SITE IS SO SMALL THAT CREATING SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY ADJACENT TO HARBORSIDE, WHICH WE KNOW HAS SIGNIFICANT VACANCIES IN ITS COMMERCIAL AREAS JUST IS NOT A RECIPE FOR SUCCESS FOR THIS SITE.
WE ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE OLD JUPITER BEACH ROAD RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS A TOWN OWNED RIGHT OF WAY PARCEL, AND THAT WOULD BE OUR PRIMARY ACCESS TO THIS SITE.
AS WE KNOW, JUST TO THE NORTH, THE TOWN IS CONSIDERING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FIRE STATION ON THE OHIO PLACE PIATT WE SEE THIS AS A SIGNIFICANT ASSET FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S NOT A DETERRENT FOR WHAT WE PROPOSE AND WE SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY BENEFIT THE PROJECT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE HARBORSIDE DEVELOPMENT IT'S EXISTING, IT'S BUILT, AND WE SEE IT AS A BENEFIT TO THE SITE, AND IT'S A PRIMARY FACTOR IN THE INVESTMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PUT INTO THE SITE AND THE INVESTMENT THAT WE SEE COMING THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AS I SAID, IN SUMMARY, WE ARE REQUESTING TO MODIFY THE LAND USE FROM COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
LIKEWISE, CONCURRENTLY, WE ARE REQUESTING TO MODIFY THE ZONING TO THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY ZONING DISTRICT AS REQUIRED.
AGAIN, BOTH OF THESE REQUESTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE SEE THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT BOTH EXISTING AND
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PROPOSED AS BENEFICIAL TO WHAT WE PROPOSE.THE ZONING DESIGNATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE ARE REDUCING SIGNIFICANTLY THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS OF POTENTIAL ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE, AND WE ARE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING ANY IMPACTS ON PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
WE RESERVE THE REST OF OUR TIME. THANK YOU.
FOR THE RECORD THATCHER PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT, THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ZONING OF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH OF HARBORSIDE WEST OF US-1.
AS IT'S GENERALLY UNDERSTOOD, FLORIDA STATE STATUTE STATES THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH EACH OTHER.
IN THIS CASE, CHANGING BOTH AS REQUESTED IS NOT REQUIRED IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.
THE KEY POLICY DECISION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR THIS APPLICATION IS WHETHER OR NOT RESIDENTIAL IS DESIRABLE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE TO MIXED USE.
THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WILL ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL TO BE ON THE SITE, WHEREAS THE EXISTING LAND USE WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW FOR ONLY COMMERCIAL USES.
THE PROPOSED ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE CURRENT AND PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE CORRIDOR AND THE SECTOR THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY.
STAFF HAS OUTLINED SOME CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING THE ADDITION OF RESIDENTIAL ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN YOUR PACKETS, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE RESIDENTS TO BE IMPACTED BY THE NOISE WITHIN THE DISTRICT DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF HARBORSIDE.
ADDITIONAL CONCERNS FOR THE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL, DO YOU HAVE TO DO WITH THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCES AS NOTED PREVIOUSLY, OF THE STREET BRINGING INTO QUESTION THE VIABILITY OF THE COMMERCIAL USE ON THE GROUND FLOOR, BUT LASTLY, JUST TO NOTE THAT IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT SECTION OF THE REPORT, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT APPROXIMATELY 60% OF THE SITE IS MADE UP OF MANGROVES AND WETLANDS.
IT'S TRADITIONALLY RECOMMENDED THAT LAND WITH THIS TYPE OF VEGETATION BE PROTECTED WITH FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING OF CONSERVATION.
HOWEVER, STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT THIS WOULD REDUCE THE DENSITY ALLOWED ON LAW FROM SIX TO FIVE UNITS AND FURTHER REDUCE THE INTENSITY FOR COMMERCIAL USES AS OUTLINED WITHIN THE REPORT.
BOTH THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED TO YOU TONIGHT BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO, AND WE HAVE PROVIDED A ROUGH DRAFT OF THE SITE PLAN AS ATTACHMENT K FOR YOUR REFERENCE, BUT THIS DOES NOT PARTICULARLY PERTAIN TO THE SITE PLAN TONIGHT, BUT I'D BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I NOTICED TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, THEY'RE SHOWING JUPITER RIGHT AWAY, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE USED AS THE ENTRANCE TO THEIR PROPERTY.
IS THAT GOING TO BE CLEARED, DEVELOPED, MAINTAINED BY THE APPLICANT?
>> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, DONALDSON HEARING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, KB CARLIN LLC.
THE APPLICANT WOULD WORK WITH THE TOWN TO DEVELOP THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
IT WOULD BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAR IT, RATE IT, AND LEVEL IT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT COULD ALSO BE DONE IN COOPERATION OR IN COLLABORATION WITH YOUR PROPOSED FIRE STATION, BUT THE APPLICANT IS 100% COMMITTED TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> BUT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BEAR THE COST OF THAT.
>> WHAT TYPE OF MANGROVE MITIGATION IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PLACE ON THIS PROPERTY?
THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH THE TOWN'S ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF AS WELL AS SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND DEP AND SO THERE WILL BE ACTUALLY PROBABLY BE A NET GAIN AND THE ONE BENEFIT THAT I THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE IS THERE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MORE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT BY REMOVING THE EXOTIC VEGETATION THAT'S ON
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THE SITE AS WELL AS THE EXOTIC VEGETATION THAT'S WITHIN THE MANGROVE AREAS THAT WILL END UP BEING PRESERVED.THAT INCLUDES ABOUT ONE ACRE OF MANGROVE WETLAND AREA THAT'S OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY WETLANDS AND MANGROVE FRINGE AND ALL OF THAT AREA WOULD BE RESTORED AS WELL.
CLEARLY A NET ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND THEN JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE APPLICANT IS 100% WILLING TO WORK WITH THE TOWN TO TAKE THE LAND THAT'S CURRENTLY WETLAND TODAY AND TO PUT IT INTO CONSERVATION LAND USE.
WE WOULD DO THAT AS A CONDITION OF OUR SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
WE WILL AGREE AS A PART OF WE AMEND OUR APPLICATION TO STATE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE INITIATED ACTION AS SOON AS OUR SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED, AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS DEDICATING A RIGHT OF WAY THAT YOU WOULD ON A PUBLIC ROADWAY, WHICH IS FAIRLY TRADITIONAL WITH DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE 100% COMMITTED TO DO THAT, AND I THINK THAT THAT IN ADDITION IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT.
I KNOW IT IS CONSERVATION, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW LIKE WE SEE DOWN IN RIVIERA BEACH WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT TRY TO PUSH THE LIMIT AND DEVELOP THOSE TYPES OF PROPERTIES.
OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO WORK WITH THE TOWN TO DO THAT AND TO IMPLEMENT THE APPROPRIATE MANAGEMENT PLAN IN THERE TO REALLY ENHANCE THAT AS A BETTER BENEFIT.
>> STAFF, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A REPORT THAT SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF MANGROVES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED FOR ANY OF THE DESIGNS OF THE PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR MIXED USE?
>> WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN INTO THOSE DETAILS YET.
I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
>> BUT THERE ARE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT RESTRICTIONS ON CUTTING MANGROVES.
THAT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU ASKED FOR, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO GET.
>> CUTTING MANGROVES IS A WHOLE OTHER THING.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE TAKING OUT ANY MANGROVES.
THERE'S A NET BENEFIT AS A PART OF WHAT WE WOULD DO IF THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED ITS COMMERCIAL.
GIVEN THE SMALL SIZE OF IT, MY GUESS IS, THERE YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT THAN WE CAN AS RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE DESIGN THE SITE PLAN, NOT ONLY BECAUSE THE TOWN REQUIRES A BUFFER FROM THE WETLAND JURISDICTIONAL AREAS, WE'VE HAD TO SET BACK FROM THAT.
THE AREA OF IMPACT IS ACTUALLY IN THE EXTREME SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE, AND IT'S RELATED OUR PLAN INCORPORATES A RIVER WALK CONNECTION THAT WOULD GO UNDERNEATH US HIGHWAY 1 TO THE EAST, AND TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION TO PHYSICALLY CONNECT TO THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT DOT PUT IN PLACE WHEN THEY DID THE ROADWAY WIDENING, THERE'LL BE SOME MINOR IMPACTS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD GET ADA ACCESSIBILITY.
THAT'S REALLY THE AREA OF IMPACT.
ALL THE OTHER AREAS WE'RE ACTUALLY STAYING AWAY FROM.
I WOULD SAY THERE'LL BE FAR MORE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT THAN THERE WOULD EVER BE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AS A RESULT [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU TO THAT.
>> OF COURSE YOU WILL, SIR. PLUS IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE ONE OTHER STAFF A FEW WEEKS AGO, WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP PLAN PUT TOGETHER.
THIS, UNDER THE NEW REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO IMPLEMENT AN ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM, AND SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE CAME RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX IN OUR APPLICATION INDICATING OUR COMMITMENT TO DO THAT, SIR.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, RETURN TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.
I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE SECOND ITEM.
I DON'T SUPPORT THE FIRST ITEM.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL ON THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE POLICY DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE.
>> I GUESS I'LL GO. MY CHALLENGE WITH THIS PROPERTY.
NOW, HERE WE ARE AGAIN, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY LOTS, OPEN PARCELS LEFT IN JUPITER AND THEY'RE ALL ODD BELL SHAPED, AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS A FEW TIMES.
MY CONCERN WITH THIS ONE IS USING THE 60% OF THE PROPERTY IS WETLAND AND THEY'RE USING THAT TO INCREASE THEIR DENSITY.
I LOOK AT THEIR RENDERING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING SITE PLAN, BUT IT JUST LOOKS VERY INTENSE FOR THAT AREA.
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[INAUDIBLE] I GO BOAT BY THERE EVERY WEEKEND TO PICTURE THAT THERE, AND THEN WE'D BE GIVING YOU THE EXCEPTION AND CHANGING THE ZONING TO LET THEM IN.I JUST REALLY CAN'T JUSTIFY THAT WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.
I WOULD SUPPORT ORDINANCE 20, 2024, WHICH WOULD BRING THIS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ROOT INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
IT WILL MAKE EVERYTHING CONGRUENT THERE.
OBVIOUSLY, THE MANGROVE SECTION IS VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE.
HOPEFULLY, WHAT'S YOUR SETBACK FROM THE ACTUAL BOUNDARY OF THE MANGROVES OR THE MEAN HIGH WATER LINE?
>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE AVERAGE SET BACK.
>> DO THE MANGROVES GO BACK THAT FAR, BECAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS.
>> WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 15 FOOT SET BACK.
FROM THOSE AREAS, A COMMERCIAL USE ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE DELETERIOUS. IT'S IN A HOLE.
[OVERLAPPING] WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DENSITY.
THAT COMES BACK AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN.
BUT TO FORCE COMMERCIAL USE ON THIS SITE WHEN YOU GOT HARBOR SIDE, THAT'S HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE IN A HOLE BECAUSE THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY TO GIVE VISIBILITY TO IT BECAUSE IT'S BELOW THE HEIGHT OF THE ROAD.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOU WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THE DENSITY THAT ASSOCIATED WITH TO WORK THOSE MANGROVE AREAS.
BUT AS A PART OF OUR PROPOSAL, WE WOULD COMMIT TO GIVE THAT LAND TO YOU, TO THE PUBLIC SO IT COULD BE PRESERVED.
WE CAN'T MAKE THAT PROMISE UNDER OTHER SCENARIOS, BECAUSE UNDER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ALLOWED TO UTILIZE THAT AS YOU READ IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO WE'D HAVE NO CHOICE, BUT TO APPLY TO PERMITS TO IMPACT THOSE WETLANDS, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THE REASONABLE AND RIGHTFUL USE OF THE PROPERTY TO HAVE A REASONABLE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO ACHIEVE THE 21,000 SQUARE FEET THAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS IS THE BEST USE FOR THAT PROPERTY, BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD MAKE A VIABLE USE OF THAT PROPERTY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILD IT UP, AS HIGH AS WE CAN GET IT WITH COMMERCIAL USE, SO THAT YOU COULD EVEN SEE INTO IT, BECAUSE NOBODY IS GOING TO BUILD AT THE PRICES THAT WE'D HAVE TO BUILD FOR TODAY ON A PIECE OF WATERFRONT PROPERTY, COMMERCIAL, THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE WARES OF WHICH THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL.
WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER OPPORTUNITY OF WORKING WITH THE TOWN AND ADDRESSING ISSUES OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND IMPACT AND TRAFFIC, BY WORKING WITH A MIXED USE.
ITS MIXTURE OF USE TO ACTUALLY COMPLEMENT HARBORSIDE.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS IT'S MISSING IN HARBOR SIDE.
IT CREATES A DIVERSITY OF USE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IN MIXED USES.
I WOULD BEG YOU TO CONSIDER THAT, AND IF IT'S THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD, WE CAN AT LEAST GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO POSTPONE AND TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITIES OF BENEFIT THAT WE CAN DELIVER TO THE TOWN FOR THIS AND COMMERCIAL.
FORCING US TO DO COMMERCIAL, WE HAVE TO IMPACT THE WETLANDS. NO CHOICE AROUND IT.
>> THANK YOU. I AGREE I'M NOT A FAN OF PUTTING RESIDENTIAL ANYWHERE NEAR HARBOR SIDE.
I MADE THAT DECISION WITH FISHERMAN'S WHARF ACROSS THE WATER, AND SAME HERE.
I'M NOT WILLING TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE THING AGAIN.
I AGREE WITH THE SECTION B, CHANGE IN TO MATCH THE ZONING AMENDMENT.
BUT AS FAR AS CHANGING IT FROM COMMERCIAL MIXED USE, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
>> I'M RELATIVELY NEW. I WAS BEFORE THE TIME OF HARBORSIDE.
I CAME INTO HARBORSIDE LATER AND I DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES IN DISTRICT 1, WHO LIVE ON THE WATER AND WHO UNDERSTAND THAT A BIT MORE WITH MITIGATION IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, THOUGH, I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION OF WHY NOT RESIDENTIAL, JUST BECAUSE, THIS IS JUST TO DISCUSS A WORKSHOP.
BUT, WITH WATER'S EDGE, THAT WAS DONE BEFORE HARBORSIDE WAS BUILT, IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THEY WAS NO EXPECTATION THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE WITH HARBORSIDE, AND WHEN IT CAME IN AFTER THE FACT AND STARTED IMPACTING WITH SOUND, THAT WAS A CONCERN.
IN THIS SENSE, IT REMINDS ME MORE OF ABACOA WITH THE AMPHITHEATER AND THAT IT ALREADY EXISTS,
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AND THEN IF PEOPLE WERE TO BUY IT, THAT EXPECTATION WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WOULD BE SOUND THERE.THERE IT IS INTERESTING WITH THE REDUCTION OF TRAFFIC, AND THE POTENTIAL MITIGATION OR CONSERVATION AROUND THE WETLANDS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION AND I'M NOT READY TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY, LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE TONIGHT.
>> I DO REMEMBER THE HISTORY OF HARBORSIDE WHEN IT FIRST CAME INTO BEING AND IT WAS PRECISELY AS YOU SAID, THOSE ACROSS THE RIVER, WE'RE LOOKING AT MANGROVES BEFORE HARBOR SIDE CAME IN, SO IT WAS VERY MUCH A SHOCK TO THEM.
AND THE NOISE WAS A PROBLEM FOREVER, BUT THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED. I AGREE.
I DON'T SEE FUTURE OF OWNERS HAVING MUCH OF A LEG TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S THERE.
IF I COULD DO THAT, I'D COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRAIN.
I WOULD REALLY DO EVERYTHING I COULD DO TO GET THAT TRAIN OUT OF THERE, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT.
THAT WAS THERE FIRST. HARBORSIDE IS THERE.
WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS A RESIDENCE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE FACED WITH THE FACT THAT THE HARBORSIDE IS THERE.
I THINK IT'S A BETTER USE FOR THE PROPERTY TO HAVE IT MIXED USED IN COMMERCIAL.
COMMERCIAL IS HIGHER IN DENSITY.
IT JUST BRINGS MORE CARS INTO AN AREA THAT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF PRESERVATION OVER COMMERCIAL AREA.
I'M INCLINED TO DO THAT, BUT I DO NOT LIKE THE DENSITY OF THIS.
AS COUNCIL MAY POINTED OUT, THAT'S TOO MUCH. LITTLE TOO HIGH.
THAT'S YOU MADE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.
I'M COMFORTABLE WITH CHANGING THIS TO MIXED USE BECAUSE I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, IT'S BETTER SUITED FOR THAT CORRIDOR OF US 1.
>> THE QUESTION THEN IS THE SITE PLAN.
BECAUSE THAT'S SEPARATE AND THAT COMES AFTER AND THAT DENSITY, I AGREE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, BUT THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM THE ZONING ISSUE.
>> BEFORE US, WE HAVE A LAND USE ISSUE, WE HAVE A ZONING ISSUE, AND THEN SITE PLAN COMES AFTER I THINK EVERYBODY'S WEIGHED IN, BUT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY TAKE ACTIONS OF SOME SORT INDIVIDUALLY ON THE TWO ITEMS. I BELIEVE THAT MY CONCERN ABOUT THE MIXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL IS WE ALL KNOW IT'S GOING TO DRIVE TO THE HEIGHT.
FOR THIS ONE SMALL SITE, TO HAVE A FEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING FOR HEIGHT, I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO THERE.
THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT OF THIS AREA, WHICH IS WHY I'M JUST OPPOSED TO CHANGING THE LAND USE ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT BUT I'M OKAY WITH CHANGING THE ZONING.
>> MAY I ASK WHAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IS OR WHAT IS PLANNED?
>> THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FOOT AVERAGE IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
WE DEVELOP A PLAN THAT'S THERE.
WHAT WE WOULD ASK IS PERHAPS YOU EITHER POSTPONE THIS TONIGHT AND LET US COME BACK OR TO AT LEAST PASS IT ON FIRST READING.
LET US TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM THAT MAYBE ADDRESSES THE DELIVERY OF THOSE CONSERVATION LANDS TO YOU SOONER.
SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE A BENEFIT.
I'VE HEARD THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT RESIDENTS HAVING ISSUE OVER THE NOISE.
I'VE HAD SEVERAL LOCAL PEOPLE, DEVELOPERS THAT REACH OUT AND SAY, WE'D LOVE TO BUY A UNIT THERE.
THERE'S NOTHING IN JUPITER TO BUY, THERE'S NO STOCK.
THERE'S NO NEW STOCK LIKE THIS.
IT WAS JOSH SIMON UNSOLICITED CALLED AND I INTRODUCED HIM TO MARK EARLIER IN THE WEEK.
WE ONLY HAVE SIX UNITS, AND I'M HEARING THAT THAT MAY END UP BEING FIVE BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE.
WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE TOWN ON THOSE ISSUES.
TO MAKE THIS A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GIVEN THE MARKET OF COMMERCIAL IN THAT SECTOR MAKES NO SENSE.
MIXED USE MEANS A MIXTURE OF USES, AND THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT HARBORSIDE IS MISSING.
THIS WOULD BE AN ASSET TO FINANCIAL SERVICES CEO FROM NEW YORK THAT PROBABLY HAS THEIR OFFICES THERE.
IF YOU COULD PERHAPS GIVE US A POSTPONEMENT, LET US TRY TO HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS AND PROVIDE YOU WHATEVER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.
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>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES.
AS THE MAYOR PRESIDING OVER THE MEETING, WHEN YOU ASK A QUESTION, I DEFER TO YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOUR QUESTION IS BEING ANSWERED GOING FAR AFIELD.
I DO INTERPRET SOMETIMES YOU MAY BE ASKING A QUESTION.
I CAN'T CUT THEM OFF BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE REST OF IT, BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TALKING ABOUT THE SITE PLAN.
WE'RE NOT DEPRIVING THEM OF RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S GOT A LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL.
THEY'RE ASKING TO CHANGE THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE TO INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL.
VERY CLEARLY, THAT'S THE POLICY DECISION.
SO WE HAVE THAT TO MAKE IF YOU WANT TO POSTPONE MAKING IT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS ALONG AND THEN HAVING MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT BECAUSE I ALWAYS START WITH WHAT'S THE POLICY PERSPECTIVE? BUT AGAIN, IT'S WHATEVER THE WILL IS OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL.
>> I'M INCLINED TO GO NO ON A, YES ON B.
>> I'M INCLINED TO GO YES ON A AND YES ON B FOR NOW BECAUSE IT'S FIRST READING, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH OR CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS AROUND MITIGATING THIS.
UNDERSTANDING THE SITE PLAN IS DIFFERENT, BUT I WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT AND HAVE MORE CONVERSATION AROUND IT, AND GIVEN THAT ORDINANCES HAVE TWO READINGS.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT ENTIRELY.
I AGREE WITH A AND B GIVING THOSE CAVEATS.
BUT IT STILL SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TWO TO THREE, SO I THINK POSTPONEMENT WOULD BE WISE.
>> DO THE APPLICANT HAVE TO ASK TO POSTPONE? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'M GOOD WITH NO ON A AND YES ON B.
>> WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON B.
>> WE CAN EITHER VOTE TO POSTPONE OR WE CAN VOTE NOW, BUT I THINK IT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF COUNCIL.
>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S A POLICY DECISION.
IF WE'RE SITTING HERE TONIGHT AND THREE OF US ARE MAKING A POLICY DECISION THAT WE DON'T WANT MIXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL, THEN EFFECTIVELY WE'RE OPPOSING THE ORDINANCE.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME REASON FOR IT TO COME BACK TO US, NOT TO MENTION THAT IF THAT IS THE CASE AND YOU POSTPONE THAT, BASICALLY, STAFF WAS LOOKING FOR THAT DIRECTION BEFORE THEY COULD PROCESS A SITE PLAN.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO VOTE NO ON THE FIRST ONE, WE WOULD REQUEST TO WITHDRAW THAT PARTICULAR PETITION.
FINE WITH YOUR PROCEEDING WITH B.
BUT WE WOULD REQUEST THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW THAT APPLICATION.
>> WHETHER WE WITHDRAW IT OR ACT ON IT, WE'RE PROVIDING POLICY DIRECTION TO STAFF TONIGHT.
>> I'M GOING TO TABLE A MOTION TO APPROVE B.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON APPROVING ORDINANCE 2-24.
I'D ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ IT ON SHORT TITLE.
>> ORDINANCE 2-24, AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE TOWN'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 1.62 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN THE INTERCOSTAL WATERWAY AND US HIGHWAY ONE ACROSS FROM BURT REYNOLDS PARK FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL C2 TO THE US1, WCE, WATERWAY COMMERCIAL AND ENTERTAINMENT SUBDISTRICT OF THE US1 INTERCOSTAL WATERWAY CORRIDOR, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF LAWS IN CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 2-24, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
AS REGARD TO ORDINANCE 10-24, I CAN TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT OR WE CAN CHOOSE TO LEAVE.
I'LL ASK TOWN ATTORNEY, HOW WOULD I TAKE AN ACTION ON PROVIDING STAFF THE POLICY DIRECTION WITHOUT ACTING ON THE ORDINANCE?
>> ACTING ON THE ORDINANCE IS THE POLICY DIRECTION.
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>> ACTING ON THE ORDINANCE IS THE POLICY DIRECTION.
>> YOU APPROVE THE ORDINANCE, WHERE YOU DON'T APPROVE THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY'RE ASKING.
>> TAKE A MOTION ON ORDINANCE 10-24.
>> REAL QUICK. THE APPLICANT, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT APPLIED FOR ORDINANCE 10-24, CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO WITHDRAW.
>> THEY'RE REQUESTING TO WITHDRAW.
SO WOULD WE GRANT THEM A MOTION, GRANT THEM THAT? LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO WITHDRAW THE THE ORDINANCE ALTOGETHER.
>>SIMPLY THEY'VE STATED ON THE RECORD THAT WITHDRAWING IT, YOU WOULD TAKE NO ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE.
IF AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE ANOTHER LAND USE IS PROPOSED, THEN THAT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE YOU IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE.
>> IF HE WANTS TO WITHDRAW IT, I'M FINE WITH HIM WITHDRAWING IT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AT A FUTURE TIME.
>> OKAY. BUT REGARDING FOR STAFF, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD PRETTY CLEAR THAT THERE'S DIRECTION HERE FROM THREE ON THE COUNCIL THAT ARE OPPOSED TO RESIDENTIAL ON THE PROPERTY.
STAFF EXERCISING A SITE PLAN REVIEW ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A WONDERFUL NIGHT.
>> WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER 12.
[12. Approving Cinquez Park as the site for the Western Fire Station, and Resolution 62-24 for approval of Work Order No. 50 to EPW 2016-12D to Wantman Group, Inc. for the design and construction criteria package for the fire station in an amount not to exceed $242,182.39.]
TURN IT OVER TO STAFF.>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL, AGAIN, DARREL DONATTO, YOUR FIRE CHIEF.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT WESTERN FIRE STATION.
FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ARE AMONG THE MOST CRITICAL OF PUBLIC SERVICES PROVIDED BY GOVERNMENTS TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND PROPERTY.
EFFICIENT DEPLOYMENT OF FIRE STATIONS IS ESSENTIAL TO ENSURING TIMELY RESPONSE TO EMERGENCY CALLS FOR SERVICE.
THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THE RIGHT LOCATION WHERE FIRE STATION IS SIGNIFICANT.
LOCATING FIRE STATIONS IS MULTI DIMENSIONAL, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF KEY CONSIDERATIONS, INCLUDING POPULATION DENSITY.
GENERALLY MORE PEOPLE, CREATES MORE DEMAND.
POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICS, THE OLDER THE POPULATION, GENERALLY, THE MORE DEMAND.
EMERGENCY CALL VOLUME, THAT'S THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND CONCENTRATION OF CALLS, SOMETIMES WE REFER TO THAT AS CALLED DENSITY.
FIRE CALLS, EMERGENCY MEDICAL CALLS, AND CALL SEVERITY, HIGH RISK VERSUS LOW RISK.
THE NEED TO ALIGN RESOURCES WITH THE GREATEST DEMAND IS ONE OF OUR PRIME OBJECTIVES, AND THE NEED TO OPTIMIZE RESPONSE TIME IS ANOTHER PRIME OBJECTIVE.
THEN ANOTHER KEY CONSIDERATION IS THE AVAILABILITY OF PROPERTY OF ADEQUATE SIZE AND ACCESSIBILITY.
THE SLIDE THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU NOW REPRESENTS THE WESTERN FIRE RESCUE RESPONSE AREA FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT RUNS EAST TO WEST ALONG INDIANTOWN ROADS CORRIDOR, AND THAT'S JUST FROM THE EAST OF THE MILITARY TRAIL AREA TO THE TOWN'S WESTERN BOUNDARY AND NORTH TO SOUTH BETWEEN THE [INAUDIBLE] LANDING COMMUNITY OF THE SOUTH AND THE SHORES ON THE NORTH.
AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS DISCUSSED IN THE EARLIER SLIDE, WE CAN BEGIN TO GRAPH AND MAP SOME OF THESE THINGS FOR THE WESTERN FIRE RESCUE RESPONSE AREA.
THIS SLIDE IS A HEAT MAP, WHAT IT SHOWS IS THE WORKLOAD OR THE CALL DENSITY FOR FIRE AND EMS CALLS IN THE WESTERN RESPONSE AREA.
THE HIGHEST VOLUME OF CALLS CAN BE SEEN ALONG THE INDIANTOWN ROAD CORRIDOR THAT'S BETWEEN CENTRAL AND MILITARY TRAIL AREA.
WITH ANOTHER HIGHER DENSITY AREA OVER ALONG CENTRAL BOULEVARD NEAR THE INDIAN CREEK COMMUNITY.
AS WE LOOK AT THESE HEAT MAPS, WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN PLACE OUR RESOURCES CLOSEST TO THE GREATEST RISK AND DEMAND SO WE CAN MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES FOR US TO ARRIVE AT AN EMERGENCY.
FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE TIMES FOR FIRST ARRIVING UNITS AND FOR THE TOTAL EFFECTIVE RESPONSE FORCE PROVIDE VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR US AS WE BEGIN TO MAKE RESOURCE ALLOCATION DECISIONS SUCH AS FIRE STATION LOCATIONS.
THE NEXT SLIDE REPRESENTS EMS CALLS ONLY.
EMS CALLS REPRESENT ABOUT 65% OF ALL CALLS FOR THE JUPITER FIRE SERVICE AREA.
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THIS IS THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF RESPONSES FOR FIRE RESCUE.THIS SLIDE CLEARLY SHOWS THE CONCENTRATION OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL CALLS RIGHT ALONG THAT INDIANTOWN ROAD CORRIDOR BETWEEN CENTRAL AND MILITARY TRAIL.
LIKEWISE, YOU CAN ALSO SEE A SIMILAR HIGHER DENSITY AREA OVER OFF CENTRAL BOULEVARD NEAR THE INDIAN CREEK COMMUNITY.
THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE CONCENTRATION OF STRUCTURE FIRE CALLS.
NOW, THIS INCLUDES NOT JUST HOUSES, BUT OTHER OUTSIDE STRUCTURES SUCH AS SHEDS AND LIGHT POLES.
AGAIN, THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF STRUCTURE FIRE CALLS IS FOUND ALONG THE INDIANTOWN ROAD CORRIDOR BETWEEN CENTRAL AND MILITARY TRAIL AS WELL AS THERE'S THIS SMALL INCREASED CALL VOLUME IN THE SOUTHWEST AREA ALONG CENTRAL BOULEVARD.
BASED ON ALL OF THOSE KEY CONSIDERATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED EARLIER, POPULATION DENSITY, POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICS, EMERGENCY CALL VOLUMES, EMERGENCY CALL TYPES, EMERGENCY CALL SEVERITY, AND ALL THE DATA THAT HAS BEEN ANALYZED, STAFF HAS REACHED THE SAME CONSENSUS.
THAT IS THAT THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE OFFERS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ALIGN OUR FIRE RESCUE RESOURCES WITH THE GREATEST CALL DEMANDS.
THIS WILL OPTIMIZE OUR RESPONSE TIMES, ALLOWING US TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY BETTER AND FASTER.
I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE PLACE THE TOWN'S WESTERN FIRE STATION SITE AT THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE.
THE SITE PLACES THE TOWN IN A STRONG POSITION TO PROVIDE FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE RESPONSE TIMES THAT ARE EQUAL TO OR BETTER THAN THE CURRENT SERVICE PROVIDER.
YOU CAN SEE THIS EMERGENCY CALL ANALYSIS.
THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS RESPONSE TIME ANALYSIS PERFORMED FOR THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE AS COMPARED TO THE SAME ANALYSIS FOR THE STATION 19 SITE AND THE COLUMN SHOWS A MEAN OR AVERAGE TRAVEL TIME FOR THE FIRST ARRIVING UNIT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE SHOWS A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT IN THE AVERAGE TRAVEL TIME FOR CALLS IN THAT WESTERN FIRE STATION AREA.
THE SECOND COLUMN SHOWS THE MEAN OR AVERAGE TRAVEL TIME FOR THE EFFECTIVE RESPONSE FORCE.
WHEN MEASURING EMERGENCY RESPONSES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHEN OUR FIRST UNIT ARRIVES ON SCENE, BUT AS WELL, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHEN ALL OF THE UNITS REQUIRED TO BE EFFECTIVE ARRIVE ON SCENE.
THE NUMBER OF UNITS YOU SENT TO A CALL WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THAT CALL.
THE NUMBER OF UNITS YOU SENT TO A CALL FOR SOMEONE WHO'S FEELING SICK, FOR EXAMPLE, IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT YOU WOULD SEND TO A CALL FOR STRUCTURE FIRE, BOTH REQUIRE DIFFERENT RESPONSES TO BE EFFECTIVE.
EFFECTIVE RESPONSE FORCE IS ALL OF THE UNITS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HANDLE AN INCIDENT, TYPICALLY BASED ON INCIDENT TYPE AND RISK.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE SECOND COLUMN, THE AVERAGE EFFECTIVE RESPONSE FORCE TIME FOR THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE IS SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE ERF TIME FOR STATION 19.
THIS THIRD COLUMN REPRESENTS THE 90TH PERCENTILE ERF TRAVEL TIME.
THIS MEANS THAT FOR 90% OF THE CALLS, THE NUMBER OF UNITS NEEDED TO BE EFFECTIVE WILL ARRIVE AT THE INCIDENT SITE IN 7 MINUTES AND 10 SECONDS OR LESS FOR THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE AS COMPARED TO 7:24 FOR THE STATION 19 SITE.
OF COURSE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'M SURE THAT YOU WILL HAVE IS HOW WILL WE DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
WE ESTIMATE ABOUT 12 TRIPS PER DAY FROM THIS FIRE STATION.
AN EMERGENCY USE ONLY LEFT TURN WILL ALLOW FIRE RESCUE TO TURN LEFT AND CROSS INDIANTOWN ROAD FOR RESPONSES THAT ARE EAST OF CARVER AVENUE.
WE WILL HAVE A FLASHING EMERGENCY SIGNAL THAT WILL TURN RED TO ALLOW FIRE RESCUE TO EXIT CARVER AVENUE, GO EITHER EAST OR WEST.
IN ADDITION, WE WILL HAVE A TRAFFIC PREEMPTION SYSTEM THAT WILL CHANGE THE INTERSECTION TRAFFIC LIGHTS TO GREEN IN ADVANCE OF THE RESPONDING EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THIS WILL FLUSH TRAFFIC IN THE DIRECTION OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE WELL BEFORE THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES GET TO THE INTERSECTION.
TRAFFIC PREEMPTION WILL MAKE EMERGENCY RESPONSES QUICKER AND SAFER FOR BOTH RESPONDERS AND THE PUBLIC.
THE STAFF MET WITH THE RESIDENTS ALONG CARVER AVENUE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD REGARDING THE PROPOSED FIRE STATION.
THE PROPOSED FIRE STATION WILL NOT BE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALONG CARVER AVENUE.
THE PLAN IS TO PLACE THE STATION APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET AWAY FROM THOSE HOMES ON CARVER AVENUE AND TO USE THE BANYAN TREE AND SOME LANDSCAPING TO HELP SHIELD THE STATION FROM THE RESIDENTS VIEW AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
TO BE CLEAR, THE BANYAN TREE AT CINQUEZ PARK WILL NOT BE CUT DOWN NOR DESTROYED, AND THE SPACE AROUND IT WILL BE RESPECTED AND PRESERVED.
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THE BELOVED DOG PARK SPACE WILL ALSO BE RESPECTED AND PRESERVED TO BE CLEAR, THE DOG PARK WILL NOT BE ELIMINATED.THE ROAD THROUGH CINQUEZ PARK WILL REMAIN OPEN DURING CONSTRUCTION AND AT THAT MEETING WITH NEARBY RESIDENTS, AN AMAZING YOUNG GIRL, ELEMENTARY AGE YOUNG LADY HAD A GREAT QUESTION, AND SHE WANTED TO KNOW, WOULD SHE BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO RIDE HER BIKE AND WALK IN THE PARK DURING CONSTRUCTION? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS, YES.
THE FIRE STATION WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO THE AREA THAT WILL ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF THE PARK.
OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THE JUPITER FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IS LOVED BY THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IT SERVES AND BY THE FIREFIGHTERS WHO WORK HERE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY NEARBY THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE, WE WILL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP JOHN SICKLER FROM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING, HE'S GOING TO NOW GO OVER AND REVIEW THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMPONENTS OF THIS PROPOSAL.
JOHN SICKLER, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THE RECORD.
ON THE SCREEN, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BUILT AT CINQUEZ PARK.
THE AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW REPRESENTS AN AREA OF APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES.
IT'S INTERESTING TO REMEMBER THAT CINQUEZ PARK WAS THE HISTORICAL LOCATION OF THE WEST JUPITER FIRE HALL.
THAT WAS A VOLUNTEER FIRE STATION SERVING THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AROUND JUPITER.
IN FACT, YOU MAY REMEMBER, THERE'S A HISTORIC MARKER THAT COMMEMORATES THE LOCATION OF THIS FIRE HALL ON THE PROPERTY TODAY.
THE TOWN ACQUIRED THE 13 ACRES, WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS CINQUEZ PARK IN 2008, AND THIS PLAN SHOWS THE IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT APPROVAL.
THREE ACRES OF THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, AND THE PURPOSE WAS TO ALLOW THE OPTION OF DEVELOPING OTHER ACTIVE USES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE REMAINING 10 ACRES WERE PURCHASED WITH OPEN SPACE BOND FUNDS, WHICH GENERALLY ONLY ALLOW FOR NATURAL AREAS AND PASSIVE USES.
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DOG PARK WAS ALLOWED IN 2014 AS PART OF THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AS A PASSIVE RECREATION USE, AND THIS WAS BASED ON AN OPINION PROVIDED BY THE TOWN'S BOND COUNCIL TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE BONDS THAT WERE FUNDING THAT FUNDED THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY ORIGINALLY.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME VERY CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS.
IT SHOWS A LAYOUT ON AN AERIAL OF THE CENTER IMAGE ON THE SLIDE.
IT SHOWS A LIKELY LOCATION FOR THE FIRE STATION ON THE SOUTH WEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT I'M CIRCLING ON THE AERIAL.
THE LOCATION OF THAT BUILDING IS ACTUALLY JUST TO THE EAST OF THE EXISTING BANYAN TREE, WHICH WILL BE PRESERVED ON THIS SITE.
THE BANYAN TREE WAS ALSO SEEN AS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO BUFFER THE BUILDING FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON CARVER AVENUE.
AS PART OF THIS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESS ROAD THAT CURRENTLY RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY CAN BE RELOCATED TO MAINTAIN THE CONVENIENT ACCESS THAT IT PROVIDES FOR RESIDENTS ON CARVER AVENUE, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS CENTER STREET WITHOUT NAVIGATING INDIANTOWN ROAD AND MAKING A U TURN.
ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE TWO IMAGES OF A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF A FIRE STATION.
THIS IS INSPIRED BY A STATION THAT'S LOCATED IN SANTA BEL.
THIS IS RECOGNIZED AS BEING REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY STYLE, THE COASTAL THEME, AND OUR ENVIRONMENT IN JUPITER.
NEARBY THE STATION JUST NORTH OF THE BANYAN TREE CONTINUES TO PROVIDE AREAS FOR OTHER ACTIVE USES THAT MAY BE DESIRED BY THE COUNCIL.
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THEY'RE ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER.THERE IS JUST A CONCEPT OF A FITNESS AREA.
THIS COULD BE LOCATED WITHIN THAT AREA OR IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE LOCATED ALONG THE NATURAL AREA PATHS THAT NAVIGATE THROUGH THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE WHERE THE TOWN RESTORED THAT AREA WITH NATIVE VEGETATION.
THIS WAS PRIOR TO, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL, THE SITE WAS REALLY A DUMPING GROUND AND IT WAS UNDER UTILIZED PRIOR TO THE TOWN'S ACQUISITION AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
AS IT RELATES TO ANY OTHER USES THAT MAY GO ON THE PROPERTY AND THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS PRIOR TO FINALIZING ANY PLANS.
IN ADDITION, ALL OF THIS WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH A SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS AND WOULD INCLUDE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE TOWN COUNCIL.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO THOMAS HERNANDEZ, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.
>> GOOD EVENING. THOMAS HERNANDEZ, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.
I'LL BE COVERING JUST THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS SHOULD THE TOWN COUNCIL DECIDE TO OR MAKE A SELECTION OF THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE.
ESSENTIALLY, THE TOWN STAFF HAS PREPARED A RESOLUTION FOR A DESIGN AND DESIGN WORK ORDER IN THE EVENT THAT THIS SITE WERE SELECTED.
ESSENTIALLY, WORK ORDER 50 WOULD BE APPROVED TONIGHT SHOULD YOU PASS RESOLUTION 6224, AND IT WOULD PROVIDE FOR A PRELIMINARY DESIGN AS WELL AS SITE APPROVAL.
THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WOULD GIVE THE TOWN STAFF THE ABILITY TO HAVE INITIAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR PUTTING THE PROJECT OUT TO BID AND ADVERTISE THE OVERALL WORK.
NEXT STEPS AFTER THE TOWN COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THE QUARTER WOULD BE TO ADVERTISE THE RFQ FOR DESIGN BUILD FIRMS. WE ARE PLANNING TO DO THAT IN LATE MAY.
NEXT STEP AFTER THAT, WGI WOULD SUBMIT THE SITE PLAN AND LAND USE APPLICATION.
WE'RE CURRENTLY SELECTING TO DO THAT IN LATE MAY EARLY JUNE TIME FRAME.
AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS, WGI WOULD BE COMPOSING LANDSCAPE DESIGN, AS WELL AS SITE LAYOUT DESIGN.
BASICALLY LAYS OUT WHERE THE BUILDING IS IN ORDER TO MEET SETBACKS.
PROTECTION PLANS, AS WE'VE NOTED TONIGHT, THE BANYAN TREE ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE ON THAT PROTECTION PLAN AS A BARK AND A STAPLE THAT WOULD BE PRESERVED AS A PART OF THE OVERALL SITE.
THEN THE NEXT STEP AFTER THAT WOULD BE WGI WOULD CONTINUE WORKING ON THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE, AND NO LATER THAN MID JULY OF 2024, THEY WOULD COMPLETE THAT PACKAGE.
THAT WOULD GIVE THE TOWN THE ABILITY TO AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, HOME SPECS ENSURE THAT THE TOWN IS ABLE TO BASICALLY GET EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, MEET ALL THE FIRE CHIEF AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS REQUIREMENTS FOR HOW THEY WANT THE BUILDING LAID OUT, WHAT GOES INTO THE ACTUAL FACILITY AS WELL AS HOW THE SITE IS GOING TO BE LAID OUT AND DESIGNED.
ALSO, AS A PART OF THAT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE, WE WOULD LIST DATES AS WELL AS CRITICAL INFORMATION SUCH AS, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS BROUGHT UP, ENSURING THAT THE ROADWAY IS RECONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE BUILDING OF THE NEW FIRE STATION.
ESSENTIALLY, WE WOULD NEED TO RELOCATE THE ACCESS ROAD THAT ALLOWS CARVER RESIDENTS TO CROSS BACK AND FORTH AND CROSS ACCESS THE SITE, SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD INCLUDE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN BUILDER WOULD KEEP AS A PART OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
NEXT AFTER THAT TIME, WGI WOULD CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THEIR SITE PLAN AS WELL AS THEIR LAND USE APPROVAL PROCESS GOING FORWARD TO P&Z BOARD AS WELL AS COUNSEL, LOOKING TO GET THAT APPROVAL LATE IN JULY FOR EARLY AUGUST OF 2024.
>> WITHIN SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS AFTER THAT, OUR TOWN STAFF WOULD WORK TO SELECT FOR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR A DESIGN BUILDER, AND THAT WOULD COME IN LATE JULY AS WELL AS EARLY AUGUST OF 2024.
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BRINGING THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE COUNCIL TO AWARD THE DESIGN BOAT CONTRACT IN THE LATE SUMMER OF 2024.THE DESIGN BUILDER WOULD THEN AFTER THAT PROJECT WAS AWARDED, BEGIN TO WORK ON THE FULL DESIGN IN ROUGHLY SEPTEMBER OF 2024 WITH THE TARGET OF BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION AND LATE CALENDAR YEAR 2024, AND THEN THE GOAL OF IN SERVICE DATE IN SPRING OF 2026.
RIGHT BACK OVER TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> IN SUMMARY, STAFF HAS RESEARCHED THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS FOR A WESTERN FIRE STATION LOCATION, INCLUDING POPULATION DENSITY.
MORE PEOPLE USUALLY CREATES MORE DEMAND.
IT'S NO COINCIDENCE THAT THE INDIANTOWN ROAD CORRIDOR WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WHO VISIT THAT AREA IS ALSO THE AREA OF HIGHEST FIRE AND EMS CALLED DEMAND.
POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICS, THE OLDER POPULATION, GENERALLY, THE MORE DEMAND.
THERE ARE TWO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES VERY NEARBY TO THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE AND THOSE FACILITIES DO INCREASE DEMAND IN THAT AREA.
EMERGENCY CALL VOLUME, THE HIGHEST DENSITY OF CALLS IS LOCATED RIGHT ALONG THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE.
THIS INCLUDES BOTH FIRE AND EMS CALLS.
THUS, THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE OFFERS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ALIGN OUR FIRE RESCUE RESOURCES WITH THE GREATEST CALL DEMAND.
THIS WILL OPTIMIZE OUR RESPONSE TIMES, ALLOWING US TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY BETTER AND FASTER.
WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL TOGETHER, AND IN MY EXPERT OPINION, THE CINQUEZ PARK SITE REPRESENTS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE LOCATION FOR THE WESTERN FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT WESTERN STATION.
IN 24 MONTHS, WE WILL HAVE FIREFIGHTERS AND FIRE TRUCKS IN THIS FIRE STATION.
A STAFF IS REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 62-24 TO BEGIN THE DESIGN PROCESS FOR THIS SITE.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
>> OH, YEAH. I GOT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY THAT THAT BANYAN IS NOT GOING TO BE TOUCHED.
NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO THAT TREE.
CAN I BE GIVEN THOSE ASSURANCES?
>> MY BOSS TOLD ME DON'T MESS WITH THAT TREE.
>> I'M ASSURING YOU, I WON'T MESS WITH THAT TREE.
>> THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TREE TO ME AND TO MANY CITIZENS.
THEY'RE VERY COOL TREES, VERY GOOD FOR WILDLIFE SUPPORT TOO.
>> I'M NOT THE EXPERT IN THIS AREA.
THOMAS PROBABLY IS MUCH MORE, BUT HE'S ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE'LL BE AN ARBORIST INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS PROCESS WELL BEFORE.
>> GOOD. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PREEMPTION.
BUT OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN ROAD IS TERRIBLE.
THE TRAFFIC PREEMPTION, WHEN THAT OCCURS, HOW LONG DOES IT USUALLY CHANGE THE LIGHTS? I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH QUESTION BECAUSE EACH ONE IS DIFFERENT.
TYPICALLY, WHAT DO WE SHUT AN INTERSECTION DOWN FOR?
>> YEAH. I HONESTLY CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.
>> THERE ARE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THAT ARE EXPERTS AT THAT AND SO I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.
I CAN FIND OUT FROM YOU FROM THE COMPANIES THAT DO THIS WORK.
HOW LONG IS THE LIGHT CHANGE? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE THE TRUCK TO GET OUT OF THE FIRE STATION?
>> HERE'S THE DEAL. TRAFFIC PREEMPTION IS DESIGNED BASED ON QUITE A FEW FACTORS.
THEY HAVE A VEHICLE THAT HAS A AVL OR AN AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LOCATOR, SO IT KNOWS GPS.
IT KNOWS YOUR VEHICLE SPEED AND DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.
BASED ON SPEED AND DIRECTION OF TRAVEL IS WHEN IT TURNS THE LIGHTS GREEN BEFORE YOU.
IF YOU'RE TRAVELING FASTER, IT TURNS THEM GREEN FASTER.
IF YOU'RE TRAVELING SLOWER, IT TURNS THEM GREEN A LITTLE SLOWER.
IT TIMES IT TO YOUR SPEED AND DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.
BUT THE GOAL IS BEFORE YOU GET TO AN INTERSECTION, THE LIGHT HAS ALREADY BEEN GREEN AND THE TRAFFIC HAS ALREADY MOVED AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE SET AND ADJUSTED.
AGAIN, I WOULD BE MAKING UP SOMETHING TO TELL YOU HOW LONG, I JUST CAN'T DO THAT.
>> BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, IT'S PULLING OUT OF THE STATION BASICALLY ONTO INDIANTOWN.
HOW LONG DOES THAT TYPICALLY TAKE? JUST YOU'RE GOING TO FLIP A SWITCH WHEN THEY'RE READY TO LEAVE THE STATION, SOMEBODY CHANGE THE LIGHT.
>> IT WILL TAKE SECONDS. IF YOU'RE GOING EASTBOUND, IT WILL TAKE LITERALLY SECONDS TO MAKE THE TURN AND GO EASTBOUND AND THEN PROCEED.
AS WELL AS IF YOU'RE GOING WESTBOUND, YOU WON'T NEED TO STOP THE EASTBOUND TRAFFIC, YOU'LL ONLY NEED TO DEAL WITH THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC.
IT WILL TAKE LITERALLY SECONDS TO MAKE THAT TURN AND GO.
THEN AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF YOU SHOULD ALREADY BE FLOWING AND THAT'S THE DESIGN OF THESE SYSTEMS. THEY'RE VERY EFFECTIVE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE PUT THEM IN THE TOWN OF
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PALM BEACH WHILE I WAS THERE AT ALL THEIR INTERSECTIONS AS WELL AS INTERSECTIONS OFF OF THE ISLAND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GET TO THE HOSPITALS QUICKER, EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE.ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEALS ABOUT TRAFFIC PREEMPTION, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT IT MAKES YOU GET THERE FASTER, IS IT IS MUCH SAFER FOR BOTH THE FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL AS THE DRIVERS, BECAUSE YOU'RE NEVER GOING THROUGH AN INTERSECTION FACING OPPOSING TRAFFIC.
THOSE LIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE RED FOR ANY OPPOSING TRAFFIC.
>> WELL, I'M PRESUMING THAT THE STATION ON CENTRAL, EVERY TIME THEY PULL OUT AND HEAD SOUTH, THEY PREEMPT THAT LIGHT.
>> I'LL DIRECT THAT TO KIM, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THAT'S NOT WORKING RIGHT NOW IF IT'S THERE BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN IT WORK AND ANYTIME I'VE SEEN THEM GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME NEW STUFF NOW.
>> CURRENTLY, THE TRAFFIC PREEMPTION DEVICES IN PLACE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER ARE AROUND THE US 1 CORRIDOR, INDIANTOWN ROAD, US 1A RIVERSIDE, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE BEING OPERATED BECAUSE OF THE US 1 BRIDGE BEING SHUT DOWN.
IT WAS PART OF FDOT PUTTING THOSE IN AND ALL THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE TRUCKS OPERATING IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE PREEMPTIONS IN THOSE AREAS BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TRAFFIC THEY WERE EXPECTING IN THOSE INTERSECTIONS, BUT IT WAS A POLICY TO START ROLLING THOSE OUT COUNTY WIDE.
A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS AROUND TOWN OF PALM BEACH UTILIZE TRAFFIC PREEMPTION TO HELP.
I'M NOT SURE I'D HAVE TO FIND OUT.
I DON'T THINK CENTRAL AND INDIANTOWN HAS IT, BUT THE ADVANTAGE THEY HAVE IS THEY HAVE ABOUT A 300 YARD START TO START UTILIZING LIGHTS AND SIRENS TO START CLEARING TRAFFIC TO NOTIFY PEOPLE OF THEIR APPROACH THERE.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
>> LACK OF PREEMPTION REQUIRES MORE AUDIBLE, MORE SIRENS, MORE LIGHTS, MORE NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
>> YEAH. YOU TYPICALLY POLICY IS YOU WANT TO START UTILIZING YOUR LIGHTS AND SIRENS AS YOU'RE APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION.
I'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT THE EXACT DISTANCE, BUT IT'S QUITE A BIT OF WAYS THAT YOU WANT TO START UTILIZING.
YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE YOUR LIGHTS ON, BUT UTILIZING SIRENS AND HORNS TO ALERT THE TRAFFIC OF INCOMING.
>> OF COURSE, PULLING ON INDIANTOWN ROAD HAS GOT TO BE SCARY.
YOU'RE PROBABLY BLOWING THE HORN LIKE CRAZY COMING UP TO INDIANTOWN ROAD.
YEAH. IT DEPENDS ON WHERE IT'S AT IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTION.
IN THE AFTERNOON, TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE AT A DEAD STANDSTILL.
I'LL ADDRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT LATER.
BUT YEAH, ANY HIGH RATE OF SPEED CORRIDOR, ONE OF OUR MAIN ARTERIES LIKE INDIANTOWN ROAD, ESPECIALLY CENTRAL AND INDIANTOWN ROAD.
I GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION A LOT.
YOU HAVE TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP WHILE UTILIZING YOUR LIGHTS AND SIRENS.
CLEAR ONE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC FIRST, GET TO THE MIDDLE AND THEN START CLEARING THAT OTHER DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'S SO CONGESTED, THEY DON'T REALLY SEE OR HEAR YOU UNTIL THEY'RE RIGHT UP ON YOU.
>> IT'S MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAT WAY TO BOTH THE FIRST RESPONDERS AS WELL AS THE GENERAL TRAFFIC?
>> IT'S NOT REALLY A STRETCH TO SAY THAT IT IS GOING TO BE SAFER FOR FIRST RESPONDERS AND GENERAL TRAFFIC TO PREEMPTIVE TRAFFIC?
>> YEAH. PREEMPTION IS DESIGNED TO DO THAT.
>> IT'S NOT REALLY A STRETCH TO SAY IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT QUIETER? YOU HAVE LESS SIRENS.
>> YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE UTILIZING, AT A POLICY AND CHIEF WILL DIRECT THAT POLICY.
BUT I KNOW MY POLICY IS I MAKE AS MUCH NOISE AS I POSSIBLY CAN BECAUSE AND YOU STILL CAUSE ACCIDENTS. YOU CAN'T AVOID IT.
>> BUT THERE'S ONLY THAT SHORT DISTANCE TO GO BEFORE YOU ONTO INDIANTOWN ROAD.
EVEN IF YOU'RE APPLYING IT AT THE SAME RATE, THE OVERALL AMOUNT OF TIME OF SIREN USE IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
>> DEPENDS. IT DEPENDS ON IF PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO YOU OR NOT?
>> IT WOULDN'T BE GOING UP, IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
>> NO. LIKE I SAID, I'LL ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF MY COMMENTS.
BUT MY CONCERN WITH THE UTILIZING THE SIRENS BY THE HOUSES IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UTILIZE THEM TO MAKE SURE ALL TRAFFIC STOPPED AND SEES YOU.
>> I GUESS THIS IS FOR STAFF AND POSSIBLY MR. SICKLER.
THIS WAS THE THREE ACRES THAT WERE ALLOCATED FOR OTHER ACTIVE USES, I THINK, WAS HOW YOU DESCRIBED IT.
TEN ACRES HAS TO BE RESERVED, AND I'M GLAD IT IS FOR PARK, GREEN SPACE, BUT THREE WERE DESIGNATED FOR OTHER USES.
>> THE 10 ACRES IS FOR NATURAL AREAS, ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION, TRAFFIC REDUCTION, AND OPEN SPACE.
NOT ACTIVE RECREATION USES, BUT PASSIVE.
>> THE REMAINING THREE ACRES WAS PURCHASED WITH GENERAL FUND MONIES, SO IT IS NOT RESTRICTED AS TO THE TYPE OF USE THAT CAN BE PLACED THERE.
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ON THE SITE PLAN, AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IN 2013, 2014, THAT SITE PLAN INCLUDED FUTURE USES FOR COMMUNITY GARDEN, ACTIVE RECREATION AREA THAT MAY HAVE INCLUDED A PLAYGROUND.IT INCLUDED AN OPEN GRASS ACTIVITY AREA, AND IT EVEN INCLUDED A RETAIL USE OF, I BELIEVE, 3,200 SQUARE FEET FOR COFFEE, DOUGHNUT SHOP TYPE USE, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN FOR A TYPE OF CONCESSION, BUT IT WAS ALSO TO LEVERAGE THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT WERE ASSIGNED TO THE PROPERTY TO RESERVE SOME TRAFFIC CAPACITY ON THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME.
>> UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, AND I REMEMBER WHEN THAT INTERSECTION HOSTED THE TREE, ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR THREE DECADES MIGHT REMEMBER, THAT WAS A VERY DILAPIDATED AREA.
THERE WAS A BUILDING THERE CALLED THE TREE, AND IT WAS A BAR THAT HAD BECOME SO RUN DOWN.
I BELIEVE IT WAS ACTUALLY USED BY FIREFIGHTERS AS A PRACTICE STRUCTURE MAYBE 20 YEARS AGO.
CAMERON, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT.
THEY ACTUALLY SET THE BUILDING ON FIRE AND EVERYBODY GOT TO PRACTICE ON A REAL BUILDING, AND THAT WAS HOW THAT BUILDING GOT TAKEN CARE OF, BUT IT WAS A HIGH DRUG USE AREA.
IT WAS A VERY DILAPIDATED AREA, SO IT WAS A HUGE EYESORE FOR JUPITER THAT GOT TRANSFERRED INTO A NICE PARK. IT'S A VERY NICE PARK.
I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE TO SEE PARK LAND TAKEN AWAY.
I'D LIKE TO SEE US ADDING PARK, BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT WHEN I FIRST SAW ALL THE PRESENTATIONS SIX MONTHS AGO OR SO, I WAS ASKING, WHY ISN'T SICKLER'S PARK BEING CONSIDERED? I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.
IT WASN'T TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.
SOME PEOPLE WERE QUOTING TONIGHT, SO I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS TRUE.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK MYSELF.
>> IT WAS ALWAYS IN CONSIDERATION WITH ME, I NEVER TOOK IT OFF THE TABLE.
WE'RE LUCKY THAT IN, WAS IT 2008 WHEN THE COUNCIL PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, THEY KEPT THIS ACRE OPEN FOR MAYBE A FUTURE TOWN USE IF NEEDED AND NOT MAKE IT ALL PARK.
>> GEOGRAPHICALLY, IT'S A PERFECT SPOT. YOU CAN SEE THAT.
>> CHIEF, I HEARD ALL ALONG THIS HAS BEEN YOUR FAVORITE SPOT, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES, BECAUSE OF THE HOT SPOTS.
I LOOKED AT THOSE AND WE ALREADY HAVE A FIRE STATION UP THE STREET DEALING WITH INDIANTOWN TRAFFIC.
THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT, SO WE'RE ALREADY DEALING WITH THAT AND IT'S RIGHT CENTRAL TO WHERE WE NEED A FIRE STATION TO BE.
IT'S A PERFECT LOCATION FOR IT.
>> EXCEPT FOR IT'S PART OF THE PARK.
THAT'S THE ONE PART THAT [INAUDIBLE].
THIS WAS NEVER OPEN SPACE, IT WASN'T.
JOHN, WHAT'S THE ACTUAL ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY? YOU JUST STATED A COUPLE OF THINGS.
>> THE PROPERTY HAS A ZONING OF PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL, WHICH ALLOWS A VARIETY OF PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES, OF COURSE, WHICH INCLUDES A FIRE STATION USE AND IT ALSO INCLUDES PARK USES.
>> RIGHT, BUT IF THAT COUNCIL WANTED THIS TO BE PART OF THE PARK, THEY WOULD HAVE MADE IT PART OF THE PARK.
WE'VE DESIGNATED SOME PARK LANDS HERE.
IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT THEY STRATEGICALLY LEFT THIS OPEN FOR FUTURE USE AND THE BENEFICIARIES OF THAT.
>> I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING AT THE TIME, THERE WAS ADEQUATE FUNDING WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE BOND FUND TO PURCHASE THE ENTIRE 13 ACRES, BUT TO YOUR POINT, THERE WAS A DECISION TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY FOR AT LEAST THREE ACRES FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED OVER THE YEARS.
>> I REMEMBER THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION IN 2017 WHEN THEY WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO NAME THE PARK BEFORE THE RIBBON CUTTING IN 2018.
THERE'S AN AGENDA AND VIDEO FOR THAT.
THEY ACTUALLY WERE THINKING OF NAMING IT BANDON TREE PARK.
THERE WAS A LIST OF NAMES BEING CONSIDERED.
NOT ONLY THIS COUNCIL BUT PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAVE ALWAYS REALLY APPRECIATED THE TREE, AND I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK I'M SPEAKING FOR ALL OF COUNCIL WHEN I SAY THAT WE WOULD NEVER.
IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF JUPITER'S HISTORY.
I WAS SURPRISED BY THE NUMBER OF EMAILS WE GOT TO THAT EFFECT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MENTION OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THIS PACKAGE.
I KNOW THERE WILL BE MORE DISCUSSION GOING ON AND THAT WE'RE IN A PERIOD OF QUESTIONS, BUT THAT DISCUSSION IN 2017 WAS REALLY INTERESTING.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT A VERY ACTIVE PLAYGROUND.
I'LL TALK ABOUT MY CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS BOTH IN THE PARK AND NEAR THE PARK OVER THE PAST WEEK, BUT THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PUTTING A TREE HOUSE IN THE TREE, BUILDING ALL AROUND THE TREE,
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VERY ACTIVE, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD FIND ANY SUPPORT TODAY.>> WELL, I'VE GOT JUST ONE LAST TOPIC AND I'LL TURN IT OVER.
PART OF WHAT I DO IS I'M A FORENSIC ENGINEER, AND I HAVE RECONSTRUCTED TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY FOR 34 YEARS NOW, OVER 5,000 TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS.
IT'S A VERY REAL CONCERN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT EFFECT WILL THIS HAVE ON TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, WHICH ARE PREVALENT? OF THE 5,000 I'VE DONE IN 34 YEARS, NOT ONE HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF A FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL TONIGHT.
NOT ONE HAS BEEN AT THE ENTRANCE TO A FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT SCORES, IF NOT, MAYBE 100 OF THEM HAVE BEEN AS A RESULT OF ANOTHER ACCIDENT ON THE SAME ROADWAY.
TRAFFIC STOPS FOR AN ACCIDENT AND THEN ANOTHER ACCIDENT HAPPENS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC STOPPED.
THE WAY TO REDUCE TRAFFICS OVERALL IS TO GET THE TRAFFIC FLOWING AGAIN, GET THE WRECKED CARS OUT OF THE WAY, AND RAPID RESPONSE ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, I THINK WOULD GREATLY HELP THAT PROBLEM OVERALL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE CAUSING ACCIDENTS.
WE'RE HERE TO HELP PRESERVE SAFETY AND ENHANCE SAFETY, NOT REDUCE IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT POINT ACROSS.
I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT TIME, BUT I WANT TO SAY IT ANYWAY, NOBODY WEARING A SHIRT IS GOING TO BE SUED.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
ALL LAWSUITS FILED, YOU CAN GET THEM ONLINE AND LISTS, WHO'S THE PLAINTIFF? WHO'S THE DEFENDANT? THE DEFENDANT IS THE PACK, AND ONLY THE PACK.
NOBODY WEARING A T-SHIRT IS GOING TO BE A DEFENDANT.
THAT'S JUST FABRICATED. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
NOT ON MY WATCH. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THIS.
RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE LAWSUIT.
ONE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO MEET WHAT PALM BEACH COUNTY IS DOING NOW, NOT REDUCE OUR EFFECTIVENESS, OUR RESPONSE TIMES.
IT'S MY GOAL TO MAKE THIS BETTER.
JUST LIKE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW IS PREMIER IN THE UNITED STATES.
WE CAME ACROSS THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
IT'S NOT MY INTENT TO MAKE THIS AS GOOD AS PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.
I WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER. AT LEAST OUR GOAL SHOULD BE TO MAKE IT BETTER, NOT EQUAL.
I THINK EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO MAKE A WORLD-CLASS NUMBER 1 FIRE DEPARTMENT.
QUITE HONESTLY, A LOT OF THIS LITIGATION THAT'S GOING ON THAT'S DRAINING US, THAT'S TAKEN AWAY OUR TIME, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.
WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO BE READY TO HAVE A TOP NOTCH FIRE DEPARTMENT READY FROM DAY 1 WHEN WE GET GOING.
JUST AS TOWN MANAGER JUST POINTED OUT A LITTLE WHILE AGO, WE'VE GOT A MANDATE, WE'VE GOT A DATE.
I PERSONALLY AND I BELIEVE EVERYONE ON THE [INAUDIBLE] UP HERE IS GOING TO TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT A PREMIER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
MY WIFE, MY CHILDREN, MY FRIENDS, AND FAMILY.
I'VE GOT A BLOOD CLOT IN MY LEFT LEG AND PULMONARY EMBOLISMS IN MY LUNGS.
I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL THAT'S GOING TO ENDANGER ANY OF MY FRIENDS, FAMILY, OR NEIGHBORS.
IT'S NOT OUR INTENT TO MAKE THIS AS GOOD, IT'S OUR INTENT TO MAKE IT BETTER, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT.
>> I WAS ASKING IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
WE THEN WOULD IN THE COMMENTS.
I HAVE SOME COMMENTS TOO, BUT NO, UNDERSTAND.
QUESTIONS. WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
WE HAVE LORI BAILEY BERTRAND, FOLLOWED BY TERRY GROOMS.
>> I ACTUALLY THOUGHT I WOULD BE SPEAKING AT THE REGULAR CITIZENS COMMENTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY I LIVE ON LOXAHATCHEE DRIVE.
I'VE LIVED IN JUPITER SINCE 1997.
I AM IN FAVOR OF THE LOCAL JUPITER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE THAT THE SERVICES SHOULD BE WITH THE CITY, THAT THEY KNOW MORE WHAT PEOPLE NEED.
THE FURTHER YOU GET AWAY FROM THE TOWN OR THE COMMUNITY, THE LESS THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE'S NEEDS AND WANTS, AS FAR AS THE GOVERNMENT.
I'VE HAD DOGS THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I HAVE LIVED HERE AND EVEN BEFORE HERE.
IN MY OPINION, CINQUEZ PARK IS ONE OF THE BEST IMPROVEMENTS
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IN THIS TOWN AND I WAS AT THAT PARK ALMOST FROM THE OPENING DAY.IT HAS BECOME AN INCREDIBLY POPULAR PLACE.
IT IS ALSO A SOCIAL HAVEN FOR PEOPLE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF SENIORS THAT GO THERE WITH THEIR DOGS AND TO MAKE FRIENDS, AND AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, SENIORS SOMETIMES DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SOCIAL CONTACT.
THAT IS ONE ASPECT OF THE PARK.
ANOTHER THING IS THAT THERE UNDER THE BIG BANYAN TREE.
THERE ARE OFTEN SUPPORT GROUPS THAT MEET THERE.
THERE USED TO BE A SUPPORT GROUP THAT WAS LED BY SOMEONE THAT I KNEW FROM THE PARK THAT SUPPORTED PEOPLE WHO HAD FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE.
THEY HAVE SINCE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
THERE ARE AA GROUPS THAT MEET AROUND THAT TREE IN THE EVENING.
JUST AS MANY OF YOU WERE COMMENTING, NOBODY WANTS ANYTHING TO HAPPEN TO THAT TREE.
MY UNDERSTANDING AND AND I'VE TRIED TO TALK WITH PEOPLE AT THE PARK.
I GO TO THE PARK PROBABLY FOUR TIMES A WEEK AT THE VERY LEAST AND I TRY TO TALK WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT THEIR CONCERN IS.
EVERYBODY'S AFRAID THAT THIS FIRE STATION WILL BE PLACED ON THE PARK PROPERTY ON THE DOG PARK AREA.
NOW, LISTENING TONIGHT AND WHAT WAS DEMONSTRATED, IT APPEARS THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE, SO LONG AS IT'S NOT TAKING ANY OF THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE DOGS, WHICH IS PEOPLE COME FROM SOUTHERN CITIES AND EVERYTHING TO THAT DOG PARK.
EVERYBODY SAYS THAT'S THE BEST DOG PARK THEY'VE EVER BEEN TO.
THEN THERE'S AN OPEN FIELD WHERE KIDS PLAY SOCCER, ETC.
WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT AS WELL.
MY UNDERSTANDING AND I MAY BE WRONG IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED WEST OF THE WESTERN MOST LITTLE PARK THAT IS THERE AND BETWEEN CARVER STREET AND THAT PARK AND THEN FACING INDIANTOWN.
THE ONLY OTHER CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM PATRONS OF THE PARK IS THE NOISE AND THE TRAFFIC.
THOSE THINGS AS AS YOU HAVE DISCUSSED, NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING.
I DON'T LIKE THE UGLY PERSONAL ATTACKS THAT ARE BEING LEVIED AGAINST THE TOWN COUNCIL OR THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THE TOWN MANAGER.
I THINK UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S BECOME PART OF TODAY'S WORLD.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S THE PROPER WAY TO ADDRESS THE MATTER.
I'M HERE SAYING I BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL IS ACTING IN OUR BEST INTERESTS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A FIRE STATION.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE SOMEBODY THAT HAS A HEART ATTACK OR SOMETHING AND IS NOT ABLE TO GET SERVICE.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
WE WANT IT TO BE PRESERVED, BUT WE UNDERSTAND ALSO THE OTHER NEEDS FOR THE TOWN. THANK YOU.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE SOUND COMING OUT OF THE STATION.
BUT AS SOON AS YOU'RE LEAVING THOSE GATES, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SOUNDING THE HORN BECAUSE IT'S ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO NOTIFY ANYBODY THAT'S ON THAT STREET THAT YOU'RE COMING AND GOING.
THE NOISE ISN'T GOING TO NOT STOP.
IT'S GOING TO START AS SOON AS THEY LEAVE THE DOOR.
WITH EVERY NEW ANNOUNCEMENT, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND COMMENTS BY BOTH INDIVIDUAL COUNSELORS AND FROM THE TOWN ITSELF.
YOU CAN CONTINUE TO PROVE THAT THE IDEA TO START A NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT IS BOTH ILL CONCEIVED AND BEING MISMANAGED.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU CREATED A LOOPHOLE, A WAY TO GAME THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE THE PROPERTY OUT OF THE PARK.
YOU CAN THINK YOU'RE SMART OR CLEVER, BUT ALL THIS DOES IS FURTHER ERODE THE PUBLIC TRUST IN OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND IN GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL.
THE IDEA OF TAKING AWAY PARK LAND IS TANTAMOUNT TO FRAUD.
WE WERE PROMISED THAT A FRAUD TO THE RESIDENTS OF JUPITER.
THE MONEY USED TO PURCHASE THE 13 ACRES WAS COMINGLED TO BUY THE ENTIRE 13 ACRES.
TO SAY NOW THAT YOU CAN DIVVY UP THE PROPERTY BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF MONEY USED IS BOTH LUDICROUS AND IN BAD FAITH.
EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AND PUSHED OUT TO THE MEDIA REGARDING CINQUEZ PARK REFERENCES 13 ACRE PARK.
THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AS JOHN REFERENCED THAT WAS USED TO SELL
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THE IDEA OF THE PARK SHOWS THAT THE ENTIRE 13 ACRES AREA AS A PARK, A PARK WITH A DOG PARK, PONDS, WALKING TRAILS, THE PLAYGROUND, ETC.IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT OTHER PLANS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST.
WHAT WAS SOLD TO THE RESIDENTS OF JUPITER WAS A 13 ACRE PARK, AND THERE WAS NEVER ANY INDICATION THAT AND ANYTHING THAT I COULD FIND TO SAY THAT IT COULD BE TAKEN AWAY.
YOUR CONSULTANT NAMED CINQUEZ PARK AS A POSSIBLE LOCATION, AND THEN YOU ALL QUICKLY WALKED IT BACK.
IT WAS STATED AT COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT CINQUEZ PARK WAS NOT BEING CONSIDERED BUT IT'S BACK.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO PUT A STATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO ENGINEER AND MANIPULATE HOW THE CINQUEZ PARK WAS PURCHASED AND WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH IT.
YOU ALL CAN AND WILL, BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD.
NOWHERE, WAS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT BECAUSE YOU ALLOWED MONEY FROM DIFFERENT PODS THAT THERE COULD BE AN INSTANCE THAT OUR PARKS OR GREEN SPACES CAN BE DIVIDED UP FOR SOME FUTURE PLAN.
DO WE HAVE TO SEE THE INVENTORY OF ALL OF OUR PARKS AND GREEN SPACES IN DETAIL HOW THE PROPERTIES WERE PAID FOR? ARE ANY OF OUR OTHER PARKS IN JEOPARDY OF BEING TAKEN AWAY? YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A STATION ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM PEOPLE'S HOUSES, SEVERELY DIMINISHING THEIR PEACE AND QUIET AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND PROPERTY VALUES? I MIGHT ADD.
ARE YOU REALLY THAT INCONSIDERATE OF THE RESIDENTS? NEVER MIND. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.
IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY THAT YOU'RE CORRUPT, STOP ACTING LIKE IT.
>> DANIEL MCANDREWS, FOLLOWED BY KAREN VINCENT.
>> DANIEL MCANDREWS. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STATION.
IF IT'S GOING TO BE TWO STORIES LIKE THAT, AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 300 FEET FROM THE HOUSES.
WELL, FIRE TRUCK GOING 40 MILES AN HOUR, THEIR DECIBELS CAN BE HEARD AT 300 FEET.
IF THEY'RE PULLING OUT, HAVING TO GO LIGHT SIRENS AND FPA STANDARDS, WHICH YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO TURN THEM ON TO GO TO THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE LIGHTS.
HOW MUCH OF THE LIGHTS GOING TO COST? WHAT'S THE LEGAL LIABILITY IF THEY'RE NOT GOING LIGHTS AND SIRENS PER THE FPA STANDARDS AND CAUSE AN ACCIDENT? NOW, WHAT ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE 300 FEET AWAY, WITH THE NOISES, WITH THE LIGHTS ON THE TWO STORIES.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRAINING THERE, WHERE IS THE WATER RUNOFF GOING TO BE? YOU GUYS SAID YOU'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN AN ISO-1.
THOSE ARE GOING TO BE SPOT FOR TRAINING FACILITY RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
IS IT GOING TO PREVENT WATER DAMAGE FROM THE TREE, OR WHAT ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL COMING THROUGH ALL OF THE GARBAGE TRUCKS OR WHENEVER THEY CHECK OUT THEIR TRUCK IN THE MORNING, ALL THE LOUD NOISES.
DOES THAT INCREASE THE DOG'S ANXIETY? ALL THE PEOPLE THERE, IS IT GOING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM COMING TO THE PARK? IS THERE GOING TO BE A CERTAIN TIME THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS? WHAT ABOUT 2:00, 3:00 IN THE MORNING AND OFF HURRICANE WINDOWS AND THEY CAN STILL HEAR THE NOISES? NOT ONLY ARE YOU DRIVING THEIR PROPERTY VALUE DOWN, YOU'RE ALSO CAUSING THEM TO BE UP ALL NIGHT.
THAT'S NOT DOING JUSTICE TO THEM. THANK YOU.
IF I TOOK MY DOG THERE AND FIRE TRUCK CAME OUT AND THEY BLEW THEIR HORN, MY DOG WOULD PROBABLY RUN AWAY.
SHE'D PROBABLY BREAK HER LEASH AND RUN, SKITTISH DOG.
YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO BRING, YOU WANT TO CALL IT SPECIAL NEEDS DOGS TO A DOG PARK WHERE BOND MONEY WAS USED TO BUY THIS.
NOTHING WAS SAID. WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME, VERY BLATANTLY, IT WAS SAID BY THIS TOWN COUNCIL, CINQUEZ PARK IS OFF THE RECORD.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO IT AND USE IT.
WHETHER YOU AGREED WITH IT OR NOT IN YOUR HEAD OR OPENLY, IT WAS WRITTEN FROM THE TOWN'S WEBSITE THAT CINQUEZ PARK WAS OFF THE TABLE.
NOW HERE WE ARE, NO DISCUSSION, NO NOTHING.
LET'S JUST PUT THE PARK THERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE.
THIS IS TIME AND TIME AGAIN OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND THAT'S WHAT MY COMPLAINT IS.
IF THE TOWN VOTES FOR A FIRE STATION, I WOULD BE BEHIND IT 100%.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT, AND MY PROBLEM ISN'T EVEN DOING THE FIRE STATION.
MY PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE NOT INCLUDED THE RESIDENTS IN THIS.
NOW, YOU WENT AND LOOKED AT A SMALL HANDFUL OF RESIDENTS OVER THERE.
I APPRECIATE THAT. DID YOU TALK TO ANYBODY WHO TRAVELS UP AND DOWN INDIANTOWN ROAD, EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I KNOW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU GO UP AND DOWN INDIANTOWN ROAD.
EVERY SINGLE INTERSECTION IS BLOCKED.
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YOU HAVE CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY.IT'S ABOUT 60% OF THE DAY, EVERY INTERSECTION IS BLOCKED.
I DON'T CARE WHAT LIGHT CONTROL YOU HAVE, WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA, AND YES, YOU SHOULD HAVE IT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE CARS MOVE.
HOW FAR AHEAD DOES THAT LIGHT CONTROL WORK? DOES IT WORK ALL THE WAY DOWN IF YOU'RE GOING WEST? IS IT GOING TO CHANGE EVERY SINGLE LIGHT SO THAT THE CARS CAN GET OUT OF YOUR WAY? BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE PARKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH EVERY SINGLE INTERSECTION, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S ANY PLACE FOR THEM TO GO TO MOVE.
YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A FIRE STATION WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO COME OUT AT THE ABSOLUTE WORST PLACE ON INDIANTOWN ROAD THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY COME OUT OF.
>> AFTER THE MAYOR ALREADY SAID THAT CINQUEZ PARK WAS NOT AN OPTION, HERE WE ARE AGAIN TONIGHT.
I'M CURIOUS, THE PLANS TO MANAGE JUPITER'S HIGH CALL VOLUME.
OUR STATION AT CINQUEZ PARK IS GOING TO BE BUSY.
LOUD, LARGE EMERGENCY VEHICLES GOING IN AND OUT OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA FROM A PARK WITH CHILDREN AND DOGS SEEMS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS NO MATTER HOW YOU PAINT THAT PICTURE TO US.
CHIEF SUGGESTED AN AVERAGE OF 12 CALLS A DAY.
THAT NUMBER IS LIKELY TO INCREASE BY 2026 BECAUSE CALL VOLUME IN THIS AREA IS ONLY GOING UP.
HE SUGGESTED QUICKER RESPONSE TIMES THAN PBCFR.
WHAT ARE THE PLANS TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY COVERAGE TO JUPITER WHEN ALL THE UNITS ARE TIED UP ON CALLS? THIS HAPPENED LAST WEEK WITH A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE FIRE.
WHERE WILL ADDITIONAL UNITS COME FROM? PALM BEACH GARDEN HAS FIVE STATIONS FOR APPROXIMATELY 60,000 RESIDENTS AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING A SIXTH.
THEY ARE BUSY AND HAVE TO ADD AN EIGHTH AND THEN THEY HAVE AN EIGHT AGREEMENT WITH PBCFR AND OTHER SURROUNDING DEPARTMENTS.
JUPITER HAS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AND PLANS TO PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT EXCEEDS THAT OF PALM BEACH COUNTY WITH ONLY THREE STATIONS.
CURRENTLY, PBCFR HAS THE ABILITY TO MOVE UNITS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE COVERAGE, BASICALLY ENSURING THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE WELL PROVIDED FOR AND CARED FOR.
IS THERE AN AID AGREEMENT CURRENTLY WITH PBCFR AND OR GARDENS AND ANY SURROUNDING DEPARTMENTS? IF SO, WHAT IS THE COST? BECAUSE THAT WASN'T LISTED ON THE CONSULTANT'S PRESENTATION? YOU'RE LOOKING TO EXCEED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT'S ALREADY PROVIDED, AND I'M JUST NOT SEEING HOW THAT'S POSSIBLE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO SELL US.
>> BACK TO COUNSEL. COUNSEL, MAY.
>> I NEVER REALLY GOT TO ASK QUESTIONS.
CHIEF, WHAT IS THE APPARATUS THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON HOUSING AT THIS STATION?
>> RIGHT NOW, THE PLAN IS THERE'LL BE AN ENGINE RESCUE AND BATTALION CHIEF AT THIS STATION.
BUT THAT'S STILL UNDER CONSIDERATION.
WE'RE HAVING SOME STUDIES DONE ABOUT RESOURCE PLACEMENT NOW.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IN THE BEGINNING THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY PUTTING A LADDER TRUCK IN THIS STATION IN THIS AREA WHEN CHIEF POZO WAS PRESENTING IT.
I WAS JUST MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN THE APPARATUS HAVE TO EXIT OUT ONTO CARVER AND THEN COME ONTO INDIANTOWN ROAD, MAKING THAT TURN BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY NARROW STREET.
I WAS JUST MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ANGLE OF THEM COMING OUT AND HAVING TO MAKE THAT TURN WITHOUT CAUSING BACKUPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ALONG CARVER AVENUE.
>> CURRENTLY, THE PLAN IS NOT TO HAVE THE LADDER TRUCK THERE.
WE'VE DONE SOME AUTO TURN MODELS.
EVERYTHING IS OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, COMPUTER GENERATED MODELS.
>> WELL, THAT WAS MY QUESTION, SO YOU GUYS CAN FOLLOW UP WITH COMMENTS.
>> NO, YOU'RE FINE. ONE QUESTION.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU, CHIEF OR FOR THOMAS.
WHAT SORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE RECONFIGURATION WILL THERE BE AT THE INTERSECTION OF INDIANTOWN ROAD AND CARVER? WE ALREADY GOT PERMISSION FROM EPID WE CAN GO EAST/WEST, CORRECT?
>> WE'VE RECEIVED BASICALLY A PRELIMINARY APPROVAL THAT THEY THEY APPROVE OF THE CONCEPT OF THE OPENING IN THE MEDIAN.
AT THIS POINT, THE FULL SURVEY HAS NOT BEEN PERFORMED FOR SUBSURFACE.
I DID THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF CINQUEZ PARK WAY BACK THEN.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS UTILITIES IN THE AREA OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
BUT THERE ARE VARIOUS UTILITIES, WHETHER IT'S GAS.
THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE FACTORED INTO THE LOCATION AS THE WHETHER IT'S THE EMERGENCY SIGNAL, MAST ARMS REPLACE, ALL THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE FACTORED IN.
THANKFULLY, RIGHT THERE ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, WE OWN THAT RIGHT OF WAY AT CARVER.
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SHOULD WE HAVE TO MOVE IT FURTHER UP, CARVER, WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO MAKE A LONGER MAST ARM AND GIVE ABILITY TO MOVE AND PLACE THAT.SHOULD WE HAVE TO, WE CAN ALWAYS RELOCATE THOSE UTILITIES, WHICH IS SOMETIMES COMMON AS A REQUIREMENT.
AS WE GO FURTHER AND GET MORE BEYOND JUST THE CONCEPTUAL, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE DESIGN BUILDER TO UP WITH THAT ANSWER.
WE DO HAVE VARIOUS UTILITIES, WHETHER IT'S WATER.
I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME FIBER IN THE AREA POSSIBLY AS WELL.
WHILE SINCE I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
I ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED CINQUEZ PARK AS A GENERAL KNOWLEDGE.
>> WELL, JUST TO KICK OFF MY COMMENTS, QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF.
REFRESH MY MEMORY. WHEN WAS YOUR FIRST DAY WITH THE TOWN?
>> REFRESH MY MEMORY. WHEN WAS YOUR FIRST DAY WITH THE TOWN?
>> OH, BOY. IT WAS ENDED JANUARY.
LET'S GO WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE.
>> THANK YOU. NOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS TO THE DEGREE THAT PEOPLE HAVE QUOTED THINGS THAT I'VE SAID AND ALSO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONED TRANSPARENCY.
YOU COULD SIT DOWN AND THIS ISN'T ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
BUT FIRST OF ALL I'M THE ONLY REMAINING MEMBER THAT HAD BEEN ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONCEPTS THAT WERE THOUGHT OF FOR THOSE THREE ACRES.
INITIALLY, I VIVIDLY RECALL OR FORMER MAYOR THINKING WORKFORCE HOUSING.
WE CONSCIOUSLY DECIDED AT THAT TIME WHEN WE PURCHASED IT 10 ACRES TO THE EAST, AND THEN WE LEFT AND THEN OVER THE COURSE OF A NUMBER OF YEARS WHAT COULD BE UNDER THREE ACRES HAS EVOLVED.
BUT GENERALLY, THAT'S THE REASON WHY 13 ACRES WEREN'T PURCHASED WITH BOND MONEY BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT THERE COULD BE SOME OTHER USE AND THE INITIAL USE THOUGHT WAS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SECONDLY, EARLY ON WHEN CINQUEZ PARK SITE HAD BEEN SPECIFIED BY A TOWN CONSULTANT, AND QUITE FRANKLY, I KNOW I FOR ONE, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS IN THE REPORT AND PEOPLE WERE CALLING US OUT LIKE WE'VE WE'VE DECIDED EVERYTHING.
I MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT IT WAS IT WAS AN OPINION THAT I HAD THAT I DIDN'T THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SITE WE'D END UP WITH.
I WAS MORE SPEAKING TO THE FACT.
MAYBE I DIDN'T COMMUNICATE IT CLEARLY, BUT NO, IT HADN'T BEEN DECIDED.
QUITE FRANKLY, I'VE PURSUED SEVERAL OTHER SITES THAT I THOUGHT AS A NON-PROFESSIONAL IN THAT BUSINESS, FIRE RESCUE, THAT THERE WOULD BE OTHER MORE FAVORED SITES.
I MADE ALL THOSE COMMENTS BEFORE WE EVEN HAD A JUPITER FIRE RESCUE CHIEF AND BEFORE ANY ANALYSIS OF RESPONSE TIMES BETWEEN SITES WAS EVER AVAILABLE TO ME FROM A SOURCE THAT I KNEW I COULD AND SHOULD TAKE AS SIGNIFICANT FACTS.
THE OTHER SITES THAT I THOUGHT WERE IN ONE OF WHICH WE HAD ACTUALLY ALSO PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED, TALKED ABOUT THAT WAS IN ANOTHER PARK, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WANT TO PICK A SITE THAT'S THE BEST FOR SERVING THE PUBLIC.
THE CHIEF SHARED WITH ME A WEEK AGO THAT ANOTHER SITE THAT I HAD BEEN PURSUING THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT HAVE SOME BENEFITS HAD A SLOW RESPONSE TIME.
YES, AS PEOPLE INDICATED THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE THE SITE, BUT THE ANALYSIS CAME OUT THAT IT'S THE BEST SITE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC SO I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
>> TRAFFIC ALONG INDIANTOWN IS PROBLEMATIC, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHERE I LIVE IN THE SHORES, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY FIRE RESCUE RESPONSES I PASSED FROM STATION 19.
I DON'T SAY THIS IN ANY NEGATIVE WAY, I SAY THIS IN A POSITIVE WAY.
THEY COME OUT OF STATION 19 AND THEY'RE NOT BLOWING THE HORN NOT UNTIL THEY GET TO INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT MY OBSERVATION IS HAVING WITNESSED HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF TIMES WHEN I'M LEAVING, WHATEVER.
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THEY USE THE HORN AS I'VE OBSERVED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POLICY IS, BUT WHEN IT'S NEEDED AS I THINK AS COUNCILOR MAY HAD INDICATED, WHEN NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE INTERSECTIONS WHENEVER.ONE OF THE REASONS I DIDN'T THINK CINQUEZ PARK WAS A GOOD SITE IS ON INDIANTOWN ROAD BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE SEEN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE FROM STATION 19 TURN WEST ON INDIANTOWN ROAD AND COME TO A DEAD STOP BECAUSE THEY COULD BLOW THE HORN ALL THEY WANT AND VEHICLES HAVE NO WAY TO PULL OVER.
BUT IRONICALLY, YOU THINK ABOUT IT IS THIS STATION IS GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE TRIPS THAT STATION 19 WAS DOING THAT WAS ON INDIANTOWN ROAD ANYWAY.
TO SOME DEGREE, IT'LL HAVE SOME ADVANTAGES, BEING ABLE TO SERVE MORE QUICKLY MOVE INTO OTHER AREAS.
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED AND LACKING ANYTHING ELSE, I HAVE TO RELY UPON THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE PROFESSIONAL THAT WE HIRED TO GUIDE US IN STARTING UP.
I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN IT AS A PUBLIC.
WE HAVE TRULY BEEN TRIED TO BE TRANSPARENT AND WHENEVER WE TALK SOMETHING, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE KNEW IT WAS A DONE DEAL.
NO, IT WAS NEVER A DONE DEAL, BUT WE'RE AT THE POINT, WE'VE BEEN STUDYING ALTERNATIVE SITES FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND WE'RE AT THE POINT, WE NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS IN CINQUEZ PARK HAS SHOWN BY THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED TO BE THE FAVORITE SITE WITH REGARD TO RESPONSE TIME TO THAT PART OF THE TOWN.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THAT TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET THOSE COMMENTS ON THE RECORD.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANY CLOSING COMMENTS?
>> YEAH, I AGREE. THE WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN FLUID, AND NOTHING'S BEEN DECIDED ON WITH THE STATION UNTIL MAYBE A WEEK AGO, I DON'T KNOW.
I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER SITES IN MIND.
THE LAST SITE THAT FELT LIKE WE COULDN'T WAIT AROUND FOR THE THE OWNER OPERATORS OF IT TO MAKE A DECISION, SO WE HAVE TO GET GOING HERE.
PERSONALLY, IT WASN'T MY FAVORITE SITE.
FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SAID, COUNSEL SAID, OH, WHENEVER I CAN USE IT; WAS IT A SOCIAL MEDIA POST FROM A STAFFER? THE DECISION'S MADE UP HERE BY FIVE OF US.
EVEN IF THE MAYOR SAID SOMETHING THAT HE CHANGED HIS MIND BECAUSE HE GOT MORE INFORMATION, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE COUNSEL SAID STATION'S NOT GOING THERE.
THIS WAS ALWAYS OPEN FOR ME AS I STATED EARLIER.
I KNEW ALL ALONG THAT THIS WAS THE MOST OPPORTUNE LOCATION FOR A STATION, AND AFTER READING AND ANALYZING I AGREE WITH HIM.
INDIANTOWN ROAD IS NOT THE MOST OPPORTUNE ROAD TO PUT A STATION ON, BUT LIKE I SAID EARLIER, PALM BEACH IS ALREADY RUNNING A STATION OFF CENTRAL AND THEY DEAL WITH THE SAME THING AND THEY DON'T PREEMPT THE LIGHT CYCLE.
I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON CARY ROAD.
WHEN I WAS A KID, I LIVED RIGHT ACROSS FROM A FIRE STATION, AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY WENT DOWN THE ROAD, IT WAS CLEAR THEY DIDN'T BLOW THE HORN, THEY BLEW IT WHEN THEY NEEDED TO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KEEP THEM FROM JUST BANGING ON THE HORN WHEN THEY TURN OUT OF THE FIRE STATION DRIVEWAY OR THEY RUN IT ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET.
I DON'T KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK ON THAT.
AS FOR CINQUEZ PARK, YOU WERE HERE WHEN THE TOWN COUNCIL PURCHASED THE LAND, WELL I WAS HERE DURING THE CONCEPTION OF THE PLAN FOR THE PARK, AND I TOTALLY SUPPORTED IT AND VOTED FOR IT.
AFTER WE PASSED IT A WEEK OR TWO LATER, WE ALL GOT FRAMED AERIAL PICTURES OF THE PARK.
YOU STILL HAVE YOURS? MINE'S FRAMED ON MY OFFICE WALL.
THAT PARK WOULD GET BULLDOZED OVER MY DEAD BODY.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ON SOCIAL MEDIA SPREADING THESE RUMORS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DESTROY THE PARK.
WHOEVER DOES THAT, I'VE SO HAD IT WITH ALL THOSE RUMORS GOING AROUND, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.
WE'RE DEALING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY HERE AND THIS COUNSEL HAS ALWAYS DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP THE PUBLIC AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
LOOK AT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WHEN TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW RETIRED, AT HIS GOING AWAY DINNER, IN CELEBRATION, HE POINTED TO THE TOWN COUNSEL AND HE SAID, "EVERYTHING I REQUESTED YOU GAVE ME." AM I CORRECT? NO? HE'LL BACK ME UP ON THAT.
ANYWAY, I HAVE A TON OF THINGS HERE.
I WON'T TAKE ALL NIGHT, BUT I AM OVER THE NEGATIVITY, THE LIES, THE INNUENDOS, ABOUT BACKROOM DEALS, CORRUPTION, BLAH.
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WE WERE PUT IN THIS POSITION BY THE COUNTY.THEY GAVE US A CONTRACT THAT WAS OUTRAGEOUS.
IT WAS IN EXCESS OF A QUARTER OF $1 BILLION A YEAR IN UPWARD COSTS AND AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE JUPITER TAXPAYER, I'M NOT PUTTING UP WITH IT.
I WOULD NEVER STAY WITH THAT CONTRACT.
WE OPTED FOR A FIVE YEAR ESCAPE CLAUSE.
THEY DEMANDED THREE, SO HERE WE ARE AT THREE.
I'M THE ONE THAT MOTIONED TO TELL OUR TOWN MANAGER TO SEND A LETTER THAT WE'RE EXECUTING OUR ESCAPE CLAUSE.
I'M THE ONE THAT DID IT. I'M GLAD WE DID IT.
THIS IS A HEAVY LIFT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
WE CAN'T WAIT FOR A LAWSUIT, WE CAN'T WAIT FOR A JUDGE.
WE HAVE A TIME FRAME, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
I GUESS THAT'S IT, AND I GUESS WE'LL GO ON FROM HERE. THANK YOU.
>> I CAN GO NEXT. I DO WANT TO SAY AND JUST REITERATE THAT THIS IS IN AN EARLY STAGE, AND THIS IS THE ABILITY TO PLAN THE SITE.
WHILE WE HAVE A DRAFT AND A CONCEPT, AS WE DID BEFORE, I ABSOLUTELY IMAGINE THAT THERE WILL BE TWEAKS TO THIS CONCEPT.
I IMAGINE THEY ALREADY ARE AFTER SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS.
I ALSO LIVE NEAR STATION 16, SO I CAN WALK TO STATION 16 FROM MY HOUSE IN A MATTER OF MINUTES AND WHAT I HEAR ARE TRAINS ALL THE TIME.
BUT I DON'T HEAR SIRENS AND I DON'T SEE THEM WHEN I DRIVE ON MILITARY AND I DRIVE BY THE STATION FREQUENTLY AND I DO NOT SEE SIRENS AS THEY'RE PULLING OUT.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO GET CLARITY AROUND THAT.
I WANT TO SAY THAT I TAKE DUE DILIGENCE VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I THINK ALL OF US DO, AND I THINK WE NEED TO ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AND MAKE THIS THE BEST POSSIBLE STATION THAT WE CAN.
IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO AUDIENCES, AND I'VE TRIED TO REACH BOTH.
THE FIRST AUDIENCE ARE PEOPLE THAT USE THE PARK, PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEAR THE PARK ON CARVER AVENUE, AND OTHER RESIDENTS THAT HAVEN'T NECESSARILY GOTTEN MIXED UP IN THE PACK AND ARE CONFUSED AND ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY MAY READ SOME OF SOCIAL MEDIA, NOT ALL OF IT.
SOCIAL MEDIA IS A REALLY HARD THING FOR A TOWN TO MANAGE BECAUSE THE TOWN IS A PAGE AND PAGES CAN'T JOIN GROUPS.
A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENS ON FACEBOOK IS ACTUALLY IN PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUPS.
FACEBOOK IS NOT A PUBLIC SQUARE.
THIS IS AS CLOSE AS YOU'LL GET TO A PUBLIC SQUARE, ALL OF OUR POSITIONS OUT FOR DISCUSSION.
IN TALKING TO THESE RESIDENTS AT THE DOG PARK, I ACTUALLY WENT A FEW WEEKS AGO BEFORE IT WAS EVEN ON THE AGENDA, AND I SPOKE WITH ABOUT 30 PEOPLE THERE THAT HAD DOGS AND USED DOGS.
AND WHAT THEY SAID WAS, FIRST OF ALL, DON'T BUILD THE STATION ON THE DOG PARK BECAUSE I NEVER SAID THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A STATION THERE.
I SAID, WE'RE NOT ACTIVELY CONSIDERING IT AT THIS TIME, KEYWORDS.
BUT WE MAY AND IF WE DO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING TO THE PARK, NOT TAKING AWAY IN TERMS OF TAKING AWAY A DOG PARK.
WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY A DOG PARK.
THEY ALSO ASKED THAT THEY'D LIKE MORE TRASH CANS AND MORE TRASH BAGS FOR THE DOGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WALK TOO FAR.
TALK ABOUT FOUNTAINS, THEY'RE GRATEFUL FOR FOUNTAINS THAT WERE PUT IN.
THERE'S A LOT OF TIME SPENT THERE WITH RESIDENTS TALKING ABOUT CONCERNS.
THEY ALSO SAID THAT THEY JUST LIKE THE GREEN SPACE, THE NATURAL ELEMENT OF THE DOG PARK.
INDIANTOWN IS VERY HUSTLE BUSTLE AND WHAT THIS OFFERS IS A CONTRAST TO THAT.
I'VE BEEN TO THE SITE MANY TIMES.
I'VE WALKED IT AT 6:00 AM TO WALK LAPS.
I'VE BEEN IN IT IN THE AFTERNOON AT A PARK BENCH FOR A COFFEE, AND I'VE BEEN IN IT IN THE EVENING WITH RESIDENTS.
IT'S NICE TO HEAR BIRDS AND SEE BEAUTIFUL TREES, AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE AROUND IT AND IN IT LOVES ABOUT IT.
THE DOG OWNERS APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT THE PARK.
THEN THE RESIDENTS THAT INVITED ME TO CARVER AVENUE, ALSO APPRECIATE THAT CONTRAST.
WHAT THEY ASKED FOR, AND IT'S ALWAYS BETTER IN PERSON, POLITICS IS BETTER IN PERSON.
IT GETS REALLY NASTY ONLINE, BUT IN PERSON, YOU CAN HAVE A BACK AND FORTH AND YOU OWN WHAT YOU SAY AND IT'S NICE.
BUT WHAT RESIDENTS ON CARVER WERE ACTUALLY SAYING WAS THAT THEY WANTED THE GREEN SPACE.
THAT FIELD ACROSS FROM THE HOMES, THEY WANT TO LEAVE IT AS IS OR ADD IRRIGATION, MAKE IT GREENER OR LANDSCAPING OR TREES OR A GARDEN OF SORTS.
BUT TO PLAY UP THE NATURAL ELEMENTS, THEY DO NOT WANT A PLAYGROUND THERE.
THAT'S JUST FROM THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO.
THAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME BECAUSE THAT HAD ALWAYS BEEN THE PLAN, AND THAT WAS IN A 2017 PLAN WITH THE TREE HOUSE WITH CONCRETE STEPS LEADING UP INTO THE TREE AND WRAPPING THE TREE.
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THAT WAS A DIFFERENT COUNCIL, DIFFERENT TIME.THAT IS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THIS FIRST AUDIENCE, AND I'M STILL GATHERING.
WE'RE STILL GETTING EMAILS SENT IN GOOD FAITH, CURIOUS, UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE WANT TO BE AS RESPONSIVE TO THEM AS POSSIBLE.
WE WANT TO HEAR THESE QUESTIONS, WE WANT TO ANSWER THEM, WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE AVAILABLE.
BUT THERE IS A SECOND AUDIENCE AND THAT AUDIENCE IS THE PACK.
THESE QUESTIONS POSE WITH THE SENSE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DISAGREE WITH US NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO FIND SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE.
IT'S BEEN THERE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
I WANT TO SAY IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE READING THESE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF LITIGATION, BUT THEY'RE ALL PUBLIC RECORD AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM NOW.
THEY'RE REDACTED, BUT THEY'RE HERE.
MY FAVORITE MIGHT BE THE FACT THAT THE UNION WAS SPEAKING TO THE ATTORNEY ABOUT AMENDING OUR CHARTER FOUR DAYS BEFORE OUR VOTE.
I HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT'S THAT?
I WOULD SAY, ALSO THE FIRE UNION WAS IN OUR AUDIENCE THE DAY OF THE VOTE COMING FROM WEST PALM BEACH TO SIT IN OUR AUDIENCE, THE DAY OF THE VOTE.
KNOWING HOW MANY MEETINGS WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS A MONTH AND WE HAVE A DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER 30TH TO MAKE THE DECISION.
THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME LIKELIHOOD OF SOMETHING HAPPENING OVER THAT NEXT FEW MEETINGS, SO I FOUND THAT CURIOUS.
THE PACK IS GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED NO MATTER WHAT.
THEY'VE SPENT $215,000 IN OUR COMMUNITY TO TRY TO STOP THIS.
THEY'RE TALKING TO A POLITICAL CONSULTANT ABOUT STRATEGIES, THEY'RE GETTING MESSAGES FROM POLITICAL CONSULTANTS ABOUT STRATEGIES.
ONE OF THEM IS, WELL, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE PETITIONS OUT, LET'S SAY DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY UNTIL THERE'S A VOTE.
THAT WAS A STRATEGY FROM A POLITICAL CONSULTANT PROPOSED TO THE PACK IN OCTOBER, AND I'M HEARING IT TODAY.
IT'S ALL CONNECTED THERE AND IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AUDIENCE.
WE HAVE THESE TWO AUDIENCES, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS ABOUT SAVING RESIDENTS, $1,000 A YEAR.
ACROSS THE AGREEMENT, THIS IS WORTH A QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS.
THIS IS ABOUT MONEY, AND IT'S ABOUT SAVING RESIDENTS MONEY, AND IT'S NOT A SMALL SUM.
IF WE CUT OUR MILITAR RATE, IT'S TENS OF DOLLARS A YEAR.
THIS IS $1,000 ON AVERAGE A YEAR.
WHAT THAT MEANS TO FAMILIES WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING IS MEANINGFUL.
WHAT'S $215,000 WHEN IT'S A QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS AT STAKE? THAT IS A DIFFERENT AUDIENCE.
WE HEAR IT, AND IT'S GETTING INCREASINGLY MORE STRIDENT.
BUT THAT SAID WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EARS OPEN, WE'RE LISTENING TO EVERYONE, BUT I JUST WANT TO SHOW THOSE TWO AUDIENCES AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WE ARE MEETING WITH RESIDENTS.
WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A BETTER SITE AND TWEAK IT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THOSE IN THE AREA. THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
>> I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC RESPONSE, I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME TO LOOK AT OTHER SITES BECAUSE I THINK IF WE WENT EVEN JUST A LITTLE FURTHER WEST OF HERE, JUST A LITTLE FURTHER WEST AND APPROACH THE OWNERS OF THE CROSSROADS PROPERTY OR SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM DESIGNATE SOME LAND TO PUT A FIRE STATION OUT THAT WAY, IT WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE RESPONSE TIMES, ESPECIALLY OUT TO OUR WESTERN AREAS SUCH AS RIALTO AND [INAUDIBLE] AND JUPITER COUNTRY CLUB.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU GET EITHER 19 OR 14 GOING THERE, ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTERNOON, GETTING OUT THERE, IT'S REALLY HARD.
EVEN THOUGH TRAFFIC PREEMPTION DEVICES WILL HELP, WHEN TRAFFIC HAS ALREADY AT A DEAD STANDSTILL FROM 95 GOING WEST TO ALMOST PANIC.
IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A DELAYED RESPONSE TIME COME DIRECTLY OUT ONTO TOWN ROAD.
JUST MY CONCERNS OF THE NOISE, I I KNOW HOW MUCH NOISE I MAKE COMING OUT OF MY FIRE STATION, WHICH IS STATION 16 AND I MAKE A LOT.
ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNINGS WHEN WE'RE DOING TRUCK CHECKS, YOU HAVE TO FIRE UP THE STALLS, YOU HAVE TO RUN THE FIRE ENGINE THE PUMP, TEST ALL THE PRESSURES, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S VERY NOISY AT 7: 00, 7: 30 IN THE MORNING, AND HAVING THAT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM A BUNCH OF RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE UTILIZING THE PARK,
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IT'S GOING TO BE DISTURBING.I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE ASPECTS.
I UNDERSTAND THE LOCATION IS GREAT BASED ON THE HEAT MAP.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE HEAT MAP WHEN IT WAS BEING PRESENTED IN A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE EMS CALLS ON THE HEAT MAP WERE ACTUALLY COMING FROM THE NURSING HOMES.
THERE'S THREE NURSING HOMES THAT WERE ON THE HEAT MAP SHOWING THE LARGE AMOUNT OF CALLS, AND A LOT OF THOSE CALLS ACTUALLY FALLS WITHOUT INJURY, WHICH IS BASICALLY A LIFT ASSIST, YOU HAVE TO GO AND HELP PICK THEM UP.
THOSE DON'T REQUIRE A CODE 3 RESPONSE, WHICH WOULD BE LIGHTS AND SIRENS.
THAT WOULD BE A CODE 1 RESPONSE.
THE RESPONSE TIME THING, I'D HAVE TO GET WITH CHIEF ON THAT CHART BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE HOW THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL TIMES FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING THOSE CALLS.
BUT TO SAY THAT YOU'D REDUCE THE TIMES WITH JUPITER FIRE RESCUE WHEN IT'S CURRENTLY NOT IN OPERATION, LIKE I SAID, I GOT TO GET WITH CHIEF, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT PROGRAM WAS USED IN PLACE.
TO SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REDUCE TIMES WITHOUT ACTUALLY CURRENTLY DOING IT IS HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT THOSE NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY WITH HOW TRAFFIC IS ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTERNOON.
THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE I HAVE TO RESPOND WHEN I'M CURRENTLY WORKING TO NINETEEN'S AREA, IF WE'RE SUPER BUSY AND I'M COMING FROM UP, AND I HAVE TO GO COMPLETELY OUT AND AROUND INDIANTOWN ROAD TO ACTUALLY GET THERE ON TIME BECAUSE INDIANTOWN ROAD IS JUST DEAD BACKED UP, AND I KNOW EVEN RUNNING LIGHTS AND SIRENS, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THE LOCATION IS GEOGRAPHICALLY GOOD, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC AND MITIGATING TRAFFIC AND TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE TO RESPOND TO A CALL.
I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT AND SAID THEY DON'T WANT A STATION AT THIS PARK FOR, NOT NECESSARILY, I KNOW IT'S THE FOOTPRINT LOOKS OKAY.
WE'RE NOT DISTURBING THE TREE, WHICH IS GREAT TO HEAR, BUT JUST THE AMOUNT OF DISRUPTIONS THAT COULD COME FROM THIS FIRE STATION FOR A VERY PEACEFUL PARK AND FOR THE RESIDENTS, THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST.
>> I'LL TAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE MATTER BEFORE US.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 6224.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO ONE WITH COUNSEL MY DISSENTING.
MOVING ON TO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON JONES CREEK VEGETATION TRIM AND UPDATE.
[13. Jones Creek Vegetative Trimming Update.]
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.
I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS BRIEF BECAUSE IT'S LATE.
BUT WE ARE AT THE FINAL STAGES OF THE JONES CREEK VEGETATIVE TRIMMING PROJECT.
WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT.
WHEN I LOOK BACK AT THE TIMELINE, IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS SINCE WE STARTED INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AND ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT, IMPROVING THE WATER QUALITY IN JONES CREEK, WHICH HAS A BACTERIA PROBLEM.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, JONATHAN BATISTA.
HE IS ONE OF OUR SENIOR ENGINEERS.
HE HAS BEEN MANAGING THIS PROJECT THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AND HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB.
I WANTED TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU AND HE HAS SOME GREAT VISUALS FOR YOU TOO.
TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT JUPITER RIVER ESTATES, THE VEGETATIVE TRIMMING PROJECT.
NOW, FOR TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT, LOOKING OVER SOME BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS, AND WHEN PARTNERING WITH COMMUNITY RELATIONS, WE'VE PREPARED A BEFORE AND AFTER DRONE VIDEO.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY IN JONES CREEK.
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WE WANTED TO ADDRESS NUTRIENT IMPAIRMENTS IN THE SOUTHWEST FORK OF THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER, REMOVE EXOTIC AND INVASIVE SPECIES THAT COMPETE WITH NATIVE VEGETATION.WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET, THE INITIAL TRIMMING WAS FUNDED FULLY BY THE TOWN OF JUPITER FOR $533,388.
THE MAINTENANCE TRIMMINGS OCCUR ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS FOR 10 YEARS, FUNDED THROUGH A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
ONCE THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, THE IDEA IS TO MAINTAIN IT IN THE STATE IT IS NOW.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROJECT GOALS, THE IDEA WAS TO OPEN ABOUT A 30-FOOT WIDE CORRIDOR FOR SUNLIGHT PENETRATION.
THIS VARIES DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE ON THE CANAL, PARTLY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT EXISTING NATIVE VEGETATION, AS WELL AS MINIMIZE A CANAL BANK DISTURBANCE, PROTECT THE SHORELINES, CLEAN UP TRASH AND DEBRIS, AND COMPLY OF PERMITS AND REGULATIONS.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE COMPLIED WITH THE FDEP MANGROVE TRIMMING AND PRESERVATION ACT.
WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO REMOVE ALL OF THIS VEGETATION, WE ALSO NEEDED TO BALANCE THAT REMOVAL WITH REGULATIONS AND GOOD PRACTICE, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MANGROVES THAT REMAINED IN JUPITER RIVER ESTATES WOULD BE HEALTHY AND LAST FOR YEARS TO COME.
THESE PHOTOS GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF WHAT SHERLOCK TREE, OUR CONTRACTOR, HAD TO DEAL WITH, ESPECIALLY BETWEEN DELAWARE AND CALOOSAHATCHEE AVENUE, WHERE LITERALLY THE SHORELINES WERE COVERED WITH VEGETATION FROM SIDE TO SIDE, THERE WERE FALLING TREES WITHIN THE WATER THAT THEY HAD TO REMOVE IN ORDER TO MAKE ANY PROGRESS.
IN SOME AREAS, THE WATER WAS STAGNANT WITH A LAYER FLOATING ORGANIC MATTER ON THE SURFACE.
WHEN I WAS OUT WITH SHERLOCK TREE INITIALLY, YOU COULD LITERALLY SMELL THE ODOR THAT CAME FROM THE STAGNANT WATER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TREES IMPEDING THE FLOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE MUCH WATER IN THAT AREA.
HERE'S THE FIRST BEFORE AND AFTER COMPARISON WHEN IT COMES TO DELAWARE AND CALOOSAHATCHEE.
YOU COULD SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE BEFORE TRIMMING, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THE WATER.
WHEREAS ON THE RIGHT SIDE AFTER TRIMMING, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE SUNLIGHT IS ABLE TO REACH THE WATER SURFACE.
IN THE SECOND COMPARISON BETWEEN SIOUX STREET AND MOHAWK STREET, THERE'S ALSO DENSE VEGETATION INHIBITING WATER MOVEMENT BEFORE THE TRIMMING, RESULTING IN STAGNANT AND ODOROUS WATER.
THEN SHORTLY AFTER TRIMMING, THE ORDER AND CLARITY OF THE WATER IMPROVED DRAMATICALLY.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE COLOR DIFFERENCE COMPARED TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
NOW, FOR THIS NEXT PHOTO COMPARISON, THIS IS THE FOOTBRIDGE NEAR MOHICAN BY THE JUPITER PARK.
NOW, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, BARELY CAN SEE ANYTHING THROUGH THE VEGETATION ON THE FOOTBRIDGE, WHEREAS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE MANY FEET DOWN THE WATERWAY.
NOW, AS ALL OF THIS WORK WAS HAPPENING, WE NOTICED THAT THE ECOLOGICAL HABITAT WAS ALSO AFFECTED IN A GOOD WAY, SO WE SAW THE IMPROVEMENTS IN WATER QUALITY IN TERMS OF ODOR, CLARITY, INCREASED NUMBERS OF BIRDS, FISH SIGHTINGS, AND EVEN IN THIS PHOTO, IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, THERE'S THE SILHOUETTE OF A MANATEE THAT DECIDED TO STOP BY ON A VISIT.
WHEN IT CAME TO THIS TRIMMING, THE INITIAL RESULTS ARE CLEAR; THE SUNLIGHT IS ABLE TO PENETRATE THE WATER SURFACE, THERE'S UNOBSTRUCTED WATERWAYS, REDUCED DETRITUS AND STAGNANT WATER, RESTORED ECOLOGY AND HABITATS, MANGROVES PRESERVED FOR HEALTHY GROWTH, WHILE WE ALSO REMOVED EXOTICS AND EVEN CREATED SOME BEAUTIFUL VIEWS IN THE PROCESS.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT JONES CREEK IS A TRIBUTARY TO THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER, WHERE IF PEOPLE CHOSE, THEY COULD EVEN MAKE IT ALL THE WAY FROM JONES CREEK TO THE RIVER.
THE IDEA IS, BIENNIAL MAINTENANCE TRIMMING WILL CONTINUE THE STORY, WHERE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HISTORY WITH JONES CREEK, AND THE IDEA IS TO MAINTAIN IT FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT RESIDENTS PLAYED A KEY ROLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROJECT, WHERE NOT ONLY DID THEY GIVE US STRATEGIC ACCESS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE WATERWAY, THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF THE EFFORTS THAT SHERLOCK TREE WAS MAKING IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS THE BEST PROJECT THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD.
FOR THE NEXT PART, I'LL BE OPENING UP THE DRONE FOOTAGE.
>> [MUSIC] IN OCTOBER 2023, THE TOWN OF JUPITER EMBARKED ON A MISSION TO RESTORE THE BEAUTY AND HEALTH OF JONES CREEK, A VITAL WATERWAY THAT FLOWS INTO THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER.
USING STATE-OF-THE-ART DRONE TECHNOLOGY, WE CAPTURED THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE JUPITER RIVER ESTATES PROJECT AREA BEFORE AND AFTER THE CLEANUP.
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THE MAIN GOAL OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY IN JONES CREEK.BY TRIMMING OVERGROWN MANGROVES, INCREASING SUNLIGHT, AND REDUCING DETRITUS IN THE WATERWAYS, WE AIMED TO CREATE A HEALTHIER ECOSYSTEM.
A SECONDARY OBJECTIVE WAS TO REMOVE EXOTIC AND INVASIVE SPECIES THAT COMPETE WITH NATIVE PLANTS, ENSURING A MORE BALANCED AND DIVERSE ECOSYSTEM.
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, THE TOWN'S CONTRACTOR, SHERLOCK TREE FACED CHALLENGES SUCH AS DENSE VEGETATION AND FALLEN TREES THAT EXTENDED FROM SHORELINE TO SHORELINE.
IN SOME AREAS, THE WATER WAS STAGNANT WITH A LAYER OF ORGANIC MATTER FLOATING ON TOP.
THIS WAS ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE CLEANUP EFFORTS.
THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT INCLUDED THE PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF NATIVE VEGETATION, WITH A FOCUS ON MINIMIZING DISTURBANCE OF CANAL BANKS.
IN FLORIDA, THERE ARE STRICT REGULATIONS ON HOW MANGROVES CAN BE TRIMMED AS PER THE MANGROVE TRIMMING AND PRESERVATION ACT.
THE TOWN ENSURED THAT MANGROVE TRIMMING WAS DONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW, BALANCING REMOVAL AND TRIMMING WITH MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ENVIRONMENT.
JONES CREEK IS NOW ON ITS WAY TO A HEALTHIER FUTURE.
MAINTENANCE TRIMMING IS PLANNED EVERY TWO YEARS TO KEEP THE WATERWAYS IN GOOD SHAPE, PAID FOR BY RESIDENTS WITHIN THE PROJECT LIMITS.
>> WHAT THIS VIDEO SHOWS IS THAT SEEING IS BELIEVING, WHERE BEFORE OUR FOOTAGE WAS TAKEN RIGHT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTED, AND WHEN IT CAME TO THIS AFTER DRONE FOOTAGE, WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH COMMUNITY RELATIONS, SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO AUTO, TO BASICALLY HELP US PIECE TOGETHER CERTAIN AREAS OF THE PROJECT THAT REALLY SHOW WHAT THIS WORK HAS ACCOMPLISHED IN TERMS OF NOT JUST HOW THE PROJECT LOOKS, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF MAKING A REAL HEADWAY TOWARDS IMPROVING THE WATER QUALITY IN THIS AREA.
>> THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> JUST A REMARKABLE TRANSFORMATION.
I WAS DOWN THERE A FEW YEARS AGO ON A GENTLEMAN'S BOAT AND INVITED ME TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR THE START OF THE PROCESS, AND WE'RE IN A SMALL BOSTON WHALE, WE HAD TO PULL OURSELVES THROUGH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CLEARED ALL THAT GROWTH OUT OF THERE.
>> YEAH, DEFINITELY WASN'T EASY.
>> NASTY. NICE JOB. THANK YOU.
>> WE HEARD FROM SOME RESIDENTS, I KNOW STAFF WAS FOLLOWING BACK UP WITH CLAIMS THAT PERHAPS SOME FALLEN TREES HAD NOT YET BEEN REMOVED, HAS ALL THAT PUNCH-LIST WORK BEEN COMPLETED NOW?
>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUNCH-LIST ITEMS, ALL THOSE ARE COMPLETED.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME MENTION OF SOME BRANCHES IN THE WATER, BUT RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY ORGANIZING TO REMOVE SOME OF THOSE BRANCHES.
>> DID YOU IN ANY WAY CHANGE THE DEPTH OF THE WATER OUT THERE? IT WASN'T REALLY YOUR TASK, WAS IT? NO? [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO. WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE DEPTH.
>> DO YOU FEEL THERE'S A NEED FOR IT? OR ARE YOU GETTING THE FLOW THERE THAT YOU WANT? I SEE A MANATEE THERE, THAT MANATEES DON'T DWELL WHERE IT'S STAGNANT, SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN.
>> WE DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE DEPTH OF THE WATER.
THE FISH LIFE HAS COME BACK, MANATEES ARE THERE.
>> DID YOU QUANTIFY FLOW IN ANY WAY OR IS IT JUST ANECDOTAL?
>> NOT FLOW. WE HAVE BEEN TAKING WATER QUALITY SAMPLES FOR BACTERIA, AND THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.
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>> WHAT WERE THE BACTERIAS? WAS IT ECOLI OR SEPTIC TANK RELATED IN ANY WAY?
>> NOT ECOLI. IT WAS JUST DEGRADED VEGETATIVE MATTER.
>> GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> IS THERE AN AVERAGE DEPTH IN THE WATER IN THERE THAT YOU COULD?
>> WE REALLY DIDN'T LOOK AT DEPTH.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT WAS TO TRIM THE VEGETATION.
I DON'T KNOW. THE CONTRACTOR AT SOME POINT WAS STANDING IN THE WATER, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DEPTH IS IN THERE.
>> LOOKS MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> THIS ALMOST MAKES UP FOR ALL THE TIME I WAS OUT SICK. JUST SAYING.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DID FOR JONES CREEK BECAUSE I LIVE ON JONES CREEK, AND I TRULY DO APPRECIATE IT AND IT IS BETTER.
THE WATER DOES STILL GET HUGELY CLOUDY.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE DEPTH VARIES, DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU'RE AT IN THE CREEK.
IF YOU GO UP CALOOSAHATCHEE IT'S A LOT SHALLOWER.
IF YOU GO ON THAT LITTLE BRIDGE THAT CROSSES OVER BETWEEN THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN MOHAWK OR MOHICAN DOWN THE RIGHT SIDE AT LOW TIDE, IT'S LOOKS LIKE A PUDDLE AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
THE CLOSER YOU GET TO LOXAHATCHEE RIVER, THEN GENERALLY, THE DEEPER IT GETS.
THERE'S SOME PRETTY GOOD SIZED BOATS OUT THERE.
MY ONLY THING I HAVE IS THAT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF DEBRIS.
I DON'T SEE THAT THEY'VE COME BACK AND CLEANED IT UP.
A LOT OF THE BOATS GOING DOWN, THE PROPELLERS AND STUFF ARE GETTING STUCK ON A LOT OF THE DEBRIS.
IT WAS A LOT WORSE UP CALOOSAHATCHEE, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE TO SAY IS IT NEEDS TO BE DREDGED, AND I'VE TALKED TO CAM AND I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ABOUT TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS GETTING SOME FUNDING AND SOME GRANTS AND MAYBE THEY CAN HELP ALSO TO BE ABLE TO GET IT DREDGED.
I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER SHARING THE COST WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN BECAUSE THAT IS A WATERWAY THAT GETS RUNOFF FROM INDIANTOWN ROAD, MILITARY TRAIL, EVERY SUBDIVISION, THE GOLF COURSES, IT NEVER USED TO BE LIKE THAT.
THAT CREEK USED TO BE CLEAR WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN THERE, YOU COULD CATCH REDTAIL SNAPPER ALL DAY LONG.
YOU CAN'T CATCH A REDTAIL SNAPPER, NOT FOR LOVE, NO MONEY BACK THERE NOW, BUT IT'S BECAUSE AS ALL THE SUBDIVISIONS BUILT UP AND ALL THE WATER THAT'S USED FOR DRAINAGE, AND THE ORIGINAL CHARTER DID SAY THAT JUPITER WAS ALLOWED TO USE IT FOR DRAINAGE AS LONG AS IT WASN'T TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ON THE BANK.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A JUPITER THING, I THINK IT'S A COMMUNITY THING.
I FEEL LIKE THAT THE COST FOR MAINTAINING THIS CREEK, SO THAT IT'S NOT POLLUTING LOXAHATCHEE RIVER, THAT IT SHOULD BE SHARED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN BECAUSE IT'D BE A LOT LESS.
I GOT $600 AD VALOREM TAX IN ADDITION TO MY INSURANCE GOING UP AND BETWEEN MY INSURANCE AND MY TAXES, I PAY WELL OVER $10,000 A YEAR, WHICH IS INSANE.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD THAT $600 ON IT, IT'S PRETTY HARD.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY WORTH IT BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE VEGETATIVE, I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. I DO APPRECIATE IT.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE TO SAY IS, A, I'M NOT IN THE COALITION, SO I'M NOT IN NEITHER ONE OF YOUR CLASSES.
[LAUGHTER] I AM MY OWN ENTITY.
MY CONCERN IS INDIANTOWN ROAD AND THE TRAFFIC AND WHAT IS GOING TO CAUSE BECAUSE NOBODY STOPS IN AN INTERSECTION.
THEY DON'T STOP BEFORE THE INTERSECTION.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON STOPS IN AN INTERSECTION.
I DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU GUYS HAD WITH THE GUY WITH THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD ABOUT MOST THINGS, AND THAT'S WHAT UPSETS ME THE MOST, THE CINQUEZ PARK THING, I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST HAD A DISCUSSION AND JUST TALKED TO THE PEOPLE ABOUT IT, KNOWING THAT NOT PREVIOUSLY YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT CINQUEZ PARK AND THE THREE ACRES, AND THAT WE WOULD BE REVISITING IT, BECAUSE THEN IT JUST MAKES IT LOOK BAD FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'VE BEGUN OUR PREPARATION OF ARGUMENTS IN THE TOWN'S DEFENSE OF THE LAWSUIT BROUGHT AGAINST THE TOWN BY THE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE, AND TO ASSIST THE TOWN IN ITS DEFENSE AND IN THE EVENT OF AN APPEAL, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT THE TOWN ENGAGE THE LAW FIRM OF KREUSLER-WALSH, VARGAS & SERAFIN.
IT'S COMMONLY REGARDED AS ONE OF THE TOP APPELLATE FIRMS IN THE COUNTY.
THIS FIRM WAS THE FIRM THAT REPRESENTED 17 CITIES,
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INCLUDING JUPITER IN A REFERENDUM QUESTION INVOLVING THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND FEES BEING CHARGED BY THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.MY REQUEST IS THAT THE COUNSEL AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH [INAUDIBLE].
>> YEAH, I'LL TABLE A MOVE FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
[TOWN MANAGER]
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY, WE JUST SAW THE WORK OF THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS TEAM IN THAT LAST PRESENTATION AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS BY THIS TEAM.
THIS PAST WEEK, THE TOWN'S COMMUNITY RELATIONS TEAM ATTENDED THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATORS ASSOCIATION ANNUAL CONFERENCE.
THIS IS A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION.
AT THE CONFERENCE, THE TOWN WON TWO OUTSTANDING AWARDS.
THE TOWN WON THE FMCA OUTSTANDING AWARD FOR WEBSITE DESIGN, WHICH YOU MAY REMEMBER WAS REDESIGNED LAST YEAR, AND FOR BRAND GUIDELINES, WHICH ESTABLISHES THE TOWN'S BRAND IDENTITY, PURPOSE, AND IMPLEMENTATION.
ALSO, THE TOWN'S ANNUAL REPORT FINISHED AS RUNNER UP IN THE ANNUAL REPORT CATEGORY. NOT TOO SHABBY.
INITIALLY, ALL FIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS TEAM, AUTO SUAREZ, JILL ALVAREZ, CAPE MACWONY, SANDY MCCREADY, AND SEAN REID, AS WELL AS OUR ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER KATE MARREO RECEIVED THE FMCA CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE IN GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS.
ONLY 17 CERTIFICATES OF EXCELLENCE WERE AWARDED AND JUPITER CLAIMED SIX OF THOSE.
THE TOWN AS A WHOLE, ALSO RECEIVED THE FMCA MUNICIPAL CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE.
JUPITER WAS JUST ONE OF 13 MUNICIPALITIES TO RECEIVE THE AWARD.
THE CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE PROGRAM HAS ONLY BEEN IN PLACE FOR TWO YEARS, AND JUPITER HAS RECEIVED IT BOTH YEARS WHILE KATE AND SHAWN HAVE ALSO RECEIVED IT BOTH YEARS.
FINALLY, LIKE SHE DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH TO DO, OUR ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER KATE MARREO WAS VOTED IN AS THE ORGANIZATION'S NEW VICE PRESIDENT.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ALL THOSE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS TEAM AND THANK THEM FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK.
THEY TRULY ARE REMARKABLE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
[TOWN COUNCIL - LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]
>> AFTER HEARING ALL THAT, IT'S A GREAT TOWN, ISN'T IT? [LAUGHTER] AND REFERRING TO THE JONES CREEK PROJECT, I'VE BEEN THINKING FOR A WHILE NOW, MAYBE AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD LOOK AT TEAMING UP WITH SOMEONE FOR DREDGING OF JONES CREEK IF WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT IT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE ENTIRE WATERWAY AND SYSTEM AND SO GET SOME FLOW THROUGH THERE.
JUST BRAINSTORM ALL BUT THAT'S IT.
>> I AGREE, I'VE BEEN BRAINSTORMING THAT WITH STAFF FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW, BUT I ALSO WANT TO JUST GIVE IT TIME TO JUST SEE HOW IT CONTINUES TO IMPROVE OR NOT.
I WANT TO SAY I DID SEE SOMETHING ABOUT TRASH ON CENTER STREET, AND WE DID HAVE THEM COME AND COLLECT, SO WASTE MANAGEMENT DOES COLLECT REGULAR PICKUPS ON CENTER STREET.
A COUPLE HAD BEEN MISSED, BUT THAT HAS BEEN REMEDIED.
IF ANYONE DOES SEE THAT IT'S NOT BEING COLLECTED, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
IN TERMS OF POINT OF PROCESS, I DID RUN ACROSS THAT ITEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT IN MANY WAYS, WE ONLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE TOLD, AND SO IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO SEND US AN EMAIL OR SEND THE TOWN AN EMAIL INSTEAD OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
I WENT TO MAX PLANK FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR AN OPEN DAY TO RESIDENTS, AND I WAS SO IMPRESSED AND SURPRISED AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GOING.
IT WAS THEIR BIGGEST YEAR YET.
THEY HAD 1,400 PEOPLE PRE-REGISTER EVEN BEFORE THE EVENT AND THEN THEY ACCEPTED PEOPLE AT THE DOOR.
MY DAUGHTER WAS ABLE TO MOVE THINGS WITH HER BRAIN WITHOUT HAVING TO, IT WASN'T LIKE A VIDEO GAME OR SOMETHING.
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE AND I'M SO GRATEFUL WE HAVE THAT IN OUR TOWN AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
I DID GET A TOUR WHILE I WAS THERE.
SOMEONE RECOGNIZED ME FROM A GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS MEETING,
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AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT, AND I DID SPEAK WITH THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE A NUMBER OF TIMES ABOUT THE CATS.I'M ACTUALLY WANTING TO THANK OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR HER QUICK RESPONSE ON THAT AS WELL AS DONALD ROSS ROAD, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN OPENED AND CLOSED AND SPINALLY OPEN AND WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
BUT THAT WAS SOME REALLY GREAT COLLABORATION AND JUST COMMUNICATION TO TRY TO GET THINGS FLOWING AGAIN.
I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING THE ISSUES WITH THE CATS ARE STARTING TO SEE RESULTS, WHICH IS GREAT.
THE LAST THING IS THAT I DID RECENTLY TODAY, JOIN THE BOARD OF THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.
I WAS INVITED TO JOIN OR ELECTED BY THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW MY LOVE OF BENCHMARKING AND COMPARING, I HAVE A DREAM TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO ALL THE OTHER ELECTEDS ALL THE TIME ABOUT ALL SORTS OF IDEAS, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT ONLY PURPOSE, BUT I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO IDEAS AND COMPARING CONTRASTING LEARNING AND I PROMISE TO BRING THE BEST IDEAS HOME. THAT'S IT.
>> JUST REAL QUICK. I KNOW WE HAD SOME CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING REGARDING THE MELALEUCA TREES ON DELAWARE BOULEVARD.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I CAN MAKE SURE STAFF ADDRESSES THAT WITH THE RESIDENT THAT WAS QUESTIONING THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO BE DISTURBING ANY WILDLIFE IN THE AREA AND THEN I KNOW THIS IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL, BUT JUST OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE RESIDENT THAT WAS ASKING FOR IT, AS FAR AS THE DISPENSARY ZONING CHANGES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE, I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH IT A FEW YEARS AGO, WE LOOKED AT IT.
BUT JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET HER SOME ANSWERS AS TO WHAT WE WENT THROUGH WHEN WE ULTIMATELY DECIDED NOT TO ALLOW FOR IT JUST TO GIVE HER SOME BACKGROUND AS TO WHY AND WHAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE PLACE AND JUST HIGH LEVEL.
I KNOW SHE ALREADY LEFT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY A PHARMACY, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME OF THE LIVE WORK UNITS IN ABACOA TO BECOME DISPENSARIES IF THEY WANTED TO, AND WE WEREN'T REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF PUTTING DISPENSARIES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE STAFF CAN GET WITH HER TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN MAYBE BRING IT BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I STILL DON'T THINK THE APPETITE IS QUITE THERE FOR IT, AND WITH THAT, IT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU.
>> JUST ONE QUICK ITEM. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY THIS YEAR TO PARTICIPATE AS MAYOR AND ALSO AS A GRANDFATHER WITH TAKE YOUR CHILD, GRANDCHILD, WORKDAY.
I TOOK AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHALLENGE THE CHILDREN THAT WERE THERE BY OFFERING THEM A MAYOR GIFT TO BE DETERMINED.
EVERYBODY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IS IT? AND I ASKED THEM TO SUBMIT A REPORT ABOUT WHAT THEY GAINED FROM ATTENDING, TAKE YOUR CHILD TO WORK DAY AND WHAT THEY LEARNED ABOUT THEIR PARENTS JOB AND I CAN TELL YOU I WAS REALLY DELIGHTED TO READ THOSE.
THEY'RE REALLY NICE AND PARTICULARLY SAYING THIS FOR I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST ONE PARENT HERE IN THE CHAMBERS, WHOSE CHILD DID SUBMIT SOMETHING AND KUDOS TO THE PARENTS WHO FOLLOWED UP AND MADE SURE THEY SUBMITTED BECAUSE I'VE CHOSEN TO AWARD ALL FOUR.
THIS IS A PERSONAL THING FOR MY WIFE AND I.
WE HAVE AWARDED THE FOUR CHILDREN A GIFT CARD THAT THEY'LL BE GETTING.
AGAIN, I THANK THEM, IT WAS DELIGHTFUL.
THE PASSION THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR PARENTS JOB, AND THE FUN THEY WERE HAVING WAS NEAT TO HEAR THAT.
THE TIME IS NOW AT 10:14. WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.