>> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE FEBRUARY 13,
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.STAFF, IF YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU. NOW THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED QUORUM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION, PLEASE LET THEM HAVE ONE OF THOSE GREEN COMMENT CARDS TO THE SECRETARY.
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NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE MINUTES.WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 14, 2023.
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> ALL OPPOSED? PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
THESE ARE THE COMMENTS THAT ARE UNRELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING.
THE BOARD WON'T DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING.
ANY ISSUES WILL BE NOTED BY THE STAFF FOR FOLLOW UP AS APPROPRIATE.
STAFF, ARE THERE ANY COMMENT CARDS FROM THE PUBLIC OR ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
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NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.STAFF, IS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA THAT WE SHOULD NOTE?
>> NO CHAIR. THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IS WE DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR AN INTERVENOR, BUT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE DURING THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
>> OKAY. I CAN'T HEAR YOUR MIC.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL LENGTH OF THAT ITEM AND POTENTIAL SHORTNESS OF THAT ITEM, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TAKE ITEM NUMBER TWO FIRST AND MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THAT ITEM BEFORE YOU TAKE UP THE REST OF THE REGULAR AGENDA.
>> OKAY. SO WE CAN SWITCH THOSE AROUND ONE OR TWO.
DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT OR CAN WE JUST MAKE THAT DECISION?
>> JUST A MOTION TO REORDER THE AGENDA.
>> OKAY. SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO REORDER THE AGENDA.
>> OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT.
NEXT UP, SECRETARY CAN YOU PLEASE SWEAR IN WITNESSES? AND THIS IS FOR ALL THE APPLICANTS AND ALL THE APPLICATIONS FOR TONIGHT.
YOU'RE PROVIDING TESTIMONY, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PUBLIC.
>> CAN YOU PLEASE STAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR UNDER THE PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS MATTER IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
[5.B.2. 705 Paulina Road]
>> WE'LL START WITH AGENDA ITEM 2705 PAULINA ROAD ON THE LISTED AGENDA.
AND THE BOARD WILL BE SITTING AS THE ZONING BOARD ADJUSTMENTS AND WE WILL BE THE FINAL ACTION FOR THE VARIANCE APPLICATION.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION STARTING OVER HERE, PAUL?
>>> NO OTHER THAN A DISCUSSION WITH JOHN SICKLER.
>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
>> I VISITED THE PROPERTY AT 705 PAULINA.
I MET WITH THE OWNER AND WAS ABLE TO GO BACK AND ACTUALLY GET A FIRSTHAND VIEW OF THE DOCKET ITSELF.
SO TOOK A COUPLE PHOTOGRAPHS MYSELF AND THAT WAS IT.
>> I MET WITH THE OWNERS, THEY INVITED ME IN.
THEY ALSO TALKED TO RIDING DOWN THE ROAD AND TALKED TO ONE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT LIVED ON, LET'S SEE, 120 ELSA.
I'M SORRY. ONE OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS I TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT IT TOO.
AND I TALKED WITH STEPHANIE AND I TALKED TO JOHN ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND SOME OTHER ISSUES.
>> I DROVE OVER THERE, I TALKED TO A NEIGHBOR THAT WAS WALKING, WHO HELPED LEAD ME TO GO TO BODIE STREET WHERE I COULD GET A PRETTY GOOD VIEW OF WHAT WAS GOING ON, HOW IT WAS LAID OUT.
COUNCIL I'D LIKE TO ASK WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE HERE AS FAR AS THE INTERVIEW IS.
>> I KNOW THE COMMISSION MAY BE AWARE THAT YOU RECEIVED A LETTER FROM
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A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL THAT IS SEEKING TO INTERVENE INTO THIS PROCEEDING.THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES A NOTICE OF INTERVENTION SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION CAN WAIVE IN TERMS OF YOUR DECISION WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE INTERVENE.
TYPICALLY YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO DO SO IF IT WAS PREJUDICIAL TO ANYONE.
YOUR OPTIONS REALLY ARE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PERMIT INTERVENTION, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SO THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT PREJUDICED BY THAT, AND SO THAT THE BOARD CAN BE INFORMED ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT THE INTERVENER IS RAISING SINCE YOU ONLY GOT IT THIS AFTERNOON, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER CONTINUING THAT ITEM.
THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE COMMISSION THOUGH.
>> ABOUT DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS.
WE WERE GETTING E-MAILS AS LATE AS 2:00 TODAY AND PEOPLE WORK, HAVE OTHER JOBS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD TO SET A PRECEDENCE BY TAKING IT ON RIGHT NOW.
IN MY ESTIMATION, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY POSTPONE THIS BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A FLORIDA STATUTE ON THAT TOO.
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO ANOTHER TIME BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEW INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO DIGEST, THE TOWN HAS TO DIGEST.
AND COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS THING CONTINUED AT ANOTHER MEETING.
>> SO THE FORMAL MOTION IS TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING.
>> OKAY. WE GOT A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> OKAY. CONTINUE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL GO BACK NOW TO ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA,
[5.B.1. Roger Dean Stadium]
WHICH IS ROGER DEAN STADIUM.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS? GOING THE SAME WAY. DAVID MILLER.
>> I JUST WALKED THE PERIMETER, DID NOT GO INSIDE THE GATES, THAT WAS IT.
>> I DROVE AROUND, LOOKED AT ALL THE SIGNS, LOOKED AT THE AREA, GOOGLE EARTH. THAT'S ABOUT IT.
>> JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY I WALK AROUND THERE.
>> OKAY. THE APPLICANT WILL GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION FIRST.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING AND GLAD TO BE IN YOUR NEW FACILITY HERE.
MY NAME IS GEORGE GENTILE, I'M ONE OF THE CONSULTING FIRMS THAT'S WORKING ON THE PROJECT FOR THE RENOVATIONS FOR ROGER DEAN STADIUM.
I HAVE ALSO WITH ME KIRK BAUER, WHO IS WITH FAWLEY BRYANT ARCHITECTS.
THEY ARE THE LEAD ARCHITECT AND DESIGN TEAM WORKING ON THE PROJECT.
MR. MIKE BAUER IS HERE, WHO'S THE GENERAL MANAGER OF ROGER DEAN STADIUM.
JASON WEBBER FROM KIMLEY-HORN, OUR ENGINEERS, DYLAN RODEN FROM MY OFFICE.
WE ARE ALL HERE TO PRESENT A MODIFICATION TO THE APPROVAL THAT WAS DONE BY THE TOWN COUNCIL WHICH STARTED IN AUGUST AND ENDED AUGUST OF THIS PAST 2023.
WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION AND BETWEEN KIRK AND I WILL BE PRESENTING IT TO YOU.
THEN KIRK ALSO HAS THE 3D MODELING IF YOU NEED ANY SPECIFIC LOCATIONS WHEN WE GET INTO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING ROGER DEAN STADIUM IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
THE TEAMS FOR THIS RENOVATION PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT IS COMING BACK TO THE TOWN.
IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE KEEP THE TEAMS HERE IN JUPITER PLAYING WE HAD TO, AT THE LAST SPRING TRAINING, MOVE THEM DOWN TO WEST PALM BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING READY TO START CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S REALLY THE GOAL OF THIS, WHAT WE CALL THE PIVOT PLAN, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE, IS TO KEEP THE TEAMS HERE AND ALSO DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH CONSTRUCTION IN THE ABACOA AREA WHICH IS ALSO GOING TO BE A BIG BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS.
KIRK IS GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO YOU IN A MINUTE.
THE STADIUM, THEIR ASSOCIATED FACILITIES AND ACTIVITIES WERE CONSTRUCTED IN 1997.
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I KNOW A LOT OF THE COMMISSIONERS HERE ARE NEW.YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE THE OTHER.
I THINK MR. DENNING WAS HERE WHEN WE DID THE OTHER PRESENTATION.
THE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE TOWN OF JUPITER PALM BEACH COUNTY TO ENSURE THE STADIUM REMAINS A TOP ATTRACTION HERE IN JUPITER.
SEVERAL MINOR PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR THE RETAIL STORAGE, VIP SEATING, THE CANOPIES, THE SIGNAGE, SCOREBOARDS, PRACTICE FIELDS, AND THE BATTING TUNNELS ARE PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
AGAIN, WE STILL ARE MAINTAINING A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE LAST APPROVAL, BUT THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT.
THIS IS THE FIRST MAJOR RENOVATION TO THE FACILITY SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
WE HAVE TAKEN THIS TO THE ABACOA POA AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN TO APPROVE THE REVISIONS TO THE RENOVATION PLANS THAT WE BROUGHT IN BEFORE SO WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE SITE IS 90 ACRES.
IT'S IN THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS AS YOU ALL KNOW IS ABACOA.
IT'S IN THE MXD RECREATION SUBDISTRICT.
THE EXISTING USE OF COURSE IS ROGER DEAN CHEVROLET STADIUM AND ASSOCIATED SPRING TRAINING FACILITIES.
IT IS USED FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES FOR BASEBALL.
THE PRACTICE FIELDS ARE AND THE STADIUM HAS EVENTS THERE AS WE ALL KNOW AND WE'VE ALL ATTENDED.
IT'S A GREAT ASSET TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE REPRESENTING THEM TONIGHT.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO KIRK AND HE'S GOING TO GO OVER THE PIVOT PLAN SUMMARY AND THEN GO OVER THE ITEMS VERY BRIEFLY WITH YOU AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS.
>> I THINK IT'S INTERESTING. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME THIS EVENING TO REVIEW THIS PRESENTATION WITH US.
WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE PIVOT PLAN IS REALLY BACKED BY THE WORD IMPACT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED ON THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE 2019.
THERE WERE IMPACTS TO THE TEAMS WITH THEIR OPERATIONS AND HAVING TO ESSENTIALLY EITHER BRING IN TEMPORARY FACILITIES AND PUT LARGE TENTS ON PRACTICE FIELDS.
THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT AS TEMPORARY STRUCTURES AND HAVING A 180 DAY TIME LIMIT.
IT WOULD ALSO BE IF A HURRICANE OR STORM CAME THROUGH, IT WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO RELOCATE SPRING TRAINING AND ALSO THIS NEW PIVOT PLAN ACTUALLY HAS A CONDENSED CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE THAT TAKES US FROM 24 MONTHS DOWN TO 12.
IT'S GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE IMPACT ON THE TOWN PROPER WITH NOT ONLY THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, ANY PARKING ISSUES, BUT ALSO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC OF BRINGING THE MATERIALS IN.
IT'S GOING TO MINIMIZE THAT TIME FRAME.
REALLY THIS PIVOT PLAN, WE'VE GOT A NEW TEAM MEMBER ON BOARD THAT TOOK A FRESH LOOK AT IT.
THROUGH THE EXPLORATION, IT'S REALLY LED BY NOT IMPEDING THE EXISTING UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT WAS REALLY THE BIG THING WHEN WE WERE KNOCKING THE CLUBHOUSES DOWN AND BUILDING NEW STRUCTURES THAT WERE MAJOR OVERHAULS THAT WERE HAPPENING WITH THE UTILITIES.
WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO IN THE PIVOT IS ACTUALLY RENOVATE THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING CERTAIN PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN THOSE CLUBHOUSES AND ARE CURRENTLY SMALLER THAN WOULD BE LEAGUE OR INDUSTRY STANDARD AND WE'RE MOVING THOSE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS INTO NEW STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON SITE WITHOUT HAVING TO IMPACT THOSE UTILITIES.
REALLY, WE FOUND A WAY TO GET MORE OUT OF THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES.
THEY'RE 25 YEARS OLD, THEY'RE IN GREAT SHAPE.
SO WHY SPEND THE MONEY TO TEAR IT DOWN AND REBUILD SOMETHING NEW IF WE CAN REUSE IT? IT'S ACTUALLY, EVEN IN THIS CASE, A MORE SUSTAINABLE APPROACH.
WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE HERE, AGAIN, IT'S LED BY KEEPING THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES IN PLACE, BUILDING NEW STRUCTURES, HIGH LEVEL.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS AND THE FAN EXPERIENCE, ALL OF THAT'S BEEN MAINTAINED.
WE DO HAVE A NEW, MORE CONTEMPORARY DESIGN FOR THE THIRD BASE BAR AREA, THIRD BASE GROUP SEATING AREA SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE REVISED PIVOT PLAN THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT.
AGAIN, THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS THAT I'VE JUST MENTIONED, WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE SHORTLY IN THE RENDERINGS.
ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY ON THAT PIECE.
AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE CARDINALS CLUB HOUSE RENOVATION.
WE'RE BUILDING A NEW BATTING TUNNEL, A NEW PLAYER DEVELOPMENT BUILDING.
WE'RE BUILDING ESSENTIALLY A DINING AND MEETING BUILDING.
ON THE MARLINS SIDE WE'RE DOING A CLUBHOUSE RENOVATION.
WE'RE BUILDING A NEW PLAYER DEVELOPMENT BUILDING.
WE'RE RENOVATING THEIR EXISTING BATTING TUNNEL.
THEN THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE RENOVATED AND NOT ADDED TO.
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THEN WE'RE JUST BUILDING A LARGER MAINTENANCE STORAGE BUILDING THAT'S FURTHER BACK IN THE SITE, FURTHER AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW.AS YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS AN ARCHITECTURAL SITE PLAN.
AT THIS SCALE IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP THAT MUCH.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JOHN AND GARRETT, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO GO THROUGH AND PUT TOGETHER THE FIGURES OF WHAT IS THIS CHANGE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE.
WE HAD PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED APPROXIMATELY 60,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING PER CLUBHOUSE ON THE NEW BUILDS.
INSTEAD, WE'RE KEEPING THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES THAT HAVE A 32,000 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT AND BUILDING NEW STRUCTURES AND WE'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING LESS AREA.
WE FOUND A WAY TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE PROGRAM OF THE SPACES.
HERE THIS 3D AERIAL RENDERING IS DEPICTING OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE PIVOT PLAN.
THE STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS, THE TEAM STORE THAT'S STAYING THE WAY THAT IT IS.
IT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL GLASS STOREFRONT AND A PUBLIC PRESENCE RIGHT THERE ADJACENT TO ABACOA.
WE'RE STILL DOING INTERIOR RENOVATIONS FOR THE STADIUM.
OPERATIONS AND TICKETING OFFICES.
WE'RE GOING TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING VISITORS CLUBHOUSE AND BRING IT UP TO THE AMERICAN RED CROSS STANDARD FOR IT TO BE A POST STORM EVENT SHELTER.
THEN WE'RE ALSO DOING, IN ADDITION TO THAT STRUCTURE, TO HOUSE THE MLB REQUIRED MALE AND FEMALE UMPIRE LOCKER ROOMS. THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME, THEY'RE THERE, WE'VE JUST SHIFTED THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE AROUND TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT THAT IT HAD ON THE UTILITIES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN SEE MY MOUSE NOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
WE'LL GET THROUGH WITH THE RENDERINGS AS WE GO.
BUT THIS IMAGE HERE, EACH ONE IS NUMBERED AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH STARTS AGAIN TO THE PIVOT PLAN OF KEEPING THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES INTACT AND DOING INTERIOR RENOVATIONS AND UPGRADES.
THIS PAINT LEGEND THAT'S HERE, SAME COLORS THAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE DOING NEW BUILDS.
WE'VE SENT IN THE PAINT CHIPS TO ABACOA POA.
EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH THIS AND REALLY BRING IT UP TO THE CURRENT CONTEXT WITH ABACOA AND MAKING IT BLEND IN TO ITS NEIGHBORING SURROUNDINGS AND FOLLOWING THAT MASTER PLAN.
HERE, THIS IS A 3D OVERALL RENDERING OF WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IF YOU WERE THE BIRD UP IN THE SKY.
THE TEAM STORE THERE IS IN THE CENTER.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME WORK ON THAT PLAZA AREA ON THE FIRST BASE SIDE.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACK, THOSE ARE THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON ENHANCING THEIR AESTHETICS, AND JUST, AGAIN, THEY'VE GOT GOOD BONES, AND WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM A BREATH OF FRESH AIR AND AN IMPROVEMENT.
THIS RENDERING HERE IS SHOWING THE ROOF OF THE THIRD BASE BAR AREA AND THE UMPIRE LOCKER ROOM ADDITION TO THE VISITORS LOCKER ROOM.
WE'RE ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE FACILITY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE TWO EXISTING CLUBHOUSES THAT ARE REMAINING, BUT THE NEW STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE BUILDING ARE WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE PLAYER DEVELOPMENT BUILDINGS.
THOSE HOUSE LARGER STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING AREAS, SO THEY GOT 5,000 SQUARE FOOT WEIGHT ROOMS PLUS OR MINUS.
WE'VE GOT ATHLETIC TRAINING, HYDROTHERAPY, AND COACHING SPACES.
THERE'S CERTAIN PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS THAT WE DECIDED TO PUT OUT IN THESE NEW STRUCTURES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE ABOUT 40 FEET APART GIVEN THE MAJOR UTILITY CORRIDOR THAT RUNS JUST ON THE CORRIDOR THAT'S ON THE BACK SIDE OF THOSE CLUBHOUSES.
THE INTENT WAS KEEP THOSE THERE, AND THEN WE HAVE THESE BRIDGING CANOPIES THAT CONNECT IT.
REALLY OUR DESIGN TEAM LOOKED AT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE EXISTING STADIUM AND GLEANED AND BROUGHT SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE INTO THOSE CANOPIES THAT ARE CONNECTING, BUT ALSO GIVING IT A MORE COHESIVE CAMPUS LOOK, AND WE'LL GET FURTHER INTO IT.
THIS IMAGE HERE IS ON THE THIRD BASE GATE AREA.
THIS WILL BE AN AREA THAT IS A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ART AND PUBLIC PLACES.
AGAIN, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH ARTISTS IN GETTING THOSE PROPOSALS.
THESE RENDERINGS, AGAIN, IT'S THE EXISTING STADIUM, BUT WE'VE GIVEN IT, IN THIS CASE, THIS IS WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE REPAINTED.
PART OF THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WITH THE STADIUM, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE NEW COLORS AND THE NEW SCHEMES THAT EVERYBODY'S SEEN AND APPROVED.
EVENTUALLY, WHEN THAT STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, THE GREEN WILL GO AWAY, IT'LL HAVE THE MORE METAL GALVALUME ROOF.
AGAIN, BLENDING IN FURTHER WITH THE CONTEXT OF ABACOA.
TEAM STORE RENDERING, AGAIN, WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE DESIGN OF THE TEAM STORE, PLENTY OF GLASS.
BUT REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO GET TO IS THE THIRD BASE BAR AREA ON THE STADIUM SIDE.
THERE'S FIXED SEATING THAT CANTILEVERS OUT IN THE FRONT OF IT, AND THEN THERE'S GROUP SEATING AREAS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.
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IT'S ADA ACCESSIBLE WITH A LIFT.THERE'S A BAR ON THE TOP FLOOR AND BOTTOM FLOOR.
IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY INTERESTING NEW FRESH APPROACH IN TERMS OF FAN EXPERIENCE WITH THE SPRING TRAINING FACILITY.
THIS RENDERING HERE IS THE EXISTING CARDINALS CLUBHOUSE WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A FACE LIFT, ADDED SOME MORE OF THE RED THIN BRICK.
I DID A BLUE ACCENT TILE AND JUST REALLY GAVE IT A MORE STATELY TOWER ELEMENT.
THE TOWER IS EXISTING, BUT WE JUST DID A FACADE TREATMENT TO BRING IT INTO THE CURRENT CONTEXT.
THIS IS THE PIECE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE CONNECTING CANOPIES.
THE ENTRY TOWER PIECE THAT YOU SEE THERE, THAT IS THE ENTRY COMPONENT INTO THE CARDINALS PLAYER DEVELOPMENT BUILDING, AND THE CANOPY THAT CONNECTS IT HAS TO BE 20 FEET WIDE AND 13 FEET HIGH BECAUSE THAT UTILITY CORRIDOR IS ALSO AN EMERGENCY ACCESS.
AGAIN, GLEANING FROM THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE EXISTING AND LOOKING A WAY TO MODERNIZE IT, MAKE IT A LITTLE FRESHER, THIS RENDERING HERE IS SHOWN AS IF YOU WERE STANDING IN THE CARDINALS AGILITY FIELD LOOKING BACK AT THEIR DINING AND MEETING BUILDING.
THIS IS THE CARDINALS BATTING TUNNEL.
IT'S THE SAME DESIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST TIME.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I THINK WE'VE REDUCED TWO BAYS ON IT.
THE TEAM DIDN'T FEEL THAT THEY NEEDED EIGHT TUNNELS, THEY WENT BACK DOWN TO SIX.
THIS IS THE UPGRADED ENTRY AND TOWER COMPONENT FOR THE MARLINS CLUBHOUSE.
AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME BUILDING THAT'S THERE, WE'VE JUST GIVEN IT A FACADE TREATMENT AND JUST GAVE THE TOWER A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF THE MATERIALS AND ITS PROPORTIONS.
THIS STRUCTURE HERE IS THE MARLINS PLAYER DEVELOPMENT BUILDING, THEIR AGILITY FIELD THAT'S BEHIND IT, AND AGAIN, THE CONNECTING CANOPY THAT ACTUALLY GLEANS THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT OF THE SHADING STRUCTURES FROM THE MAIN STADIUM.
AGAIN, ON THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING SIDE, WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST DOING AN INTERIOR RENOVATION ON THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING, AND WE'RE BUILDING A LARGER MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT STORAGE BUILDING THAT'S FURTHER BACK IN THE UTILITY YARD, SO IT'S FURTHER AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW.
WE'VE GOT A CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCING PLAN LOOKING AT ESSENTIALLY THE TIMELINES OF HOW THE ELEMENTS OF CONSTRUCTION ARE GOING TO GO ON, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN SHARED WITH YOU GUYS THROUGH GEORGE AND STAFF.
WE'RE CLOSE ON TIME, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE OVERALL SUMMARY OF WHAT THE PIVOT PLAN IS.
>> WE'RE GOING TO END OUR PRESENTATION THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND I KNOW STAFF HAS A PRESENTATION.
WE'LL RESERVE OUR 36 SECONDS FOR ANY OTHER COMMENTS LATER. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
GARRET WATSON FOR THE RECORD WITH PLANNING & ZONING.
AS THE APPLICANT NOTED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM REALLY SINCE SHORTLY AFTER THE LAST APPROVAL, WHICH MANY OF YOU ALL ACTUALLY REVIEWED LAST AUGUST.
THE PROPOSED PLAN ACTUALLY KEEPS BASEBALL OPERATING OUT OF JUPITER AND IT ALSO REDUCES MANY OF THE IMPACTS OF THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED PLAN.
THE PREVIOUS PLAN IMPACTED SOME TREES WHICH WERE HAVING TO BE MOVED AND MITIGATED.
IT ALSO IMPACTED SOME PARKING AREAS TEMPORARILY AND WE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE A LOGISTICS PLAN IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY WERE SHUTTING DOWN AS THEY WERE DOING CONSTRUCTION WOULD ALLOW OPERATIONS TO CONTINUE AT A MINIMAL LEVEL.
THIS PROPOSED PLAN REALLY REMOVES ALL THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN.
STAFF HAS PROVIDED YOU WITH A TABLE ON PAGE 3 OF THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE BUILDING DATA.
THIS IS REALLY JUST SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE DELTA BETWEEN WHAT YOU APPROVED LAST AUGUST OR RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND WHAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IT TOTALS ABOUT 29,000 THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, BUT AS THE APPLICANT STATED, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT, THEY'VE RE-IMAGINED THOSE SPACES AND BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE USES UNDER THE NEW BUILDINGS.
WHILE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IS BEING REDUCED, AND THAT TYPICALLY WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO BACK TO COUNCIL IF IT'S A REDUCTION FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED.
THEY ARE DONE IN SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
THE CODE NECESSITATES THAT ANYTIME YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW BUILDING THAT'S LARGER THAN 2,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT REQUIRES COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK HERE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH THIS PLAN.
AS I NOTED PREVIOUSLY, A LOT OF THIS REPORT IS VERY SIMILAR BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS VERY SIMILAR.
A LOT OF THE SAME ELEMENTS REMAIN, THE PUBLIC ART REMAINS, A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY IN TERMS OF ADA PARKING.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO GO THROUGH THOSE.
THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.
WE'VE MAINTAINED THAT CONDITION FOR A FLORIDA LICENSED DESIGN PROFESSIONAL TO WRITE US A LETTER OF COMPLIANCE.
WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE THAT.
IN ADDITION, AS YOU'LL REMEMBER OR MAY RECALL, LAST AUGUST WE HAD BROUGHT UP AN ISSUE WITH PARKING ALONG CENTRAL THAT WASN'T DIRECTLY RELATED TO STADIUM OPERATIONS,
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BUT MORE SO TOURNAMENTS.THE COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF AT THAT TIME TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IN ADDRESSING THAT SAFETY ISSUE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BURDEN THE APPLICANT WITH THE TIME IT WOULD TAKE AND THE COST IT WOULD TAKE TO PRODUCE THOSE FACILITIES, BUT RECOGNIZED THAT IT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.
WE'RE ASKING FOR AND THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WILLING TO HELP US WITHIN 90 DAYS OF APPROVAL, WE HAVE A CONDITION THAT STATES THAT WE NEED BASICALLY ENOUGH OF A SITE PLAN OF THAT AREA TO BE ABLE TO APPROACH THE COUNTY AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INTERSECTION IS SAFE.
THAT IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT.
AS IT RELATES TO ARCHITECTURE, VERY SIMILAR PREVIOUSLY WHAT WAS PROPOSED, WHAT'S ACTUALLY LEFT UP ON THE SCREEN IS ESSENTIALLY A RE-IMAGINING OF THAT NEW CLUBHOUSE.
THAT CLUBHOUSE WAS GOING TO HAVE A MORE PUBLIC FACING DESIGN TO IT.
THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSE DEFINITELY DOES NOT HAVE THAT PUBLIC FACING DESIGN, SO THEY WENT THROUGH AND RE-IMAGINED A LOT OF THOSE FACILITIES AS PART OF THIS PIVOT PLAN.
PREVIOUSLY, THERE WERE SOME CONFLICTS WITH THE UTILITY CORRIDOR.
THIS TIME WITH THE PLAN, THERE'S MUCH LESS CONFLICTS WITH THAT UTILITY CORRIDOR.
THERE ARE A FEW MOVING PIECES STILL WITH HOW THOSE BUILDINGS ARE CONNECTED WITH CANOPIES, AND SO WE HAVE A CONDITION IN THE WATER SECTION THAT STATES THAT ANY STRUCTURES THAT ARE WITHIN 10 FOOT HORIZONTAL OF A WATER FACILITY, WHETHER THAT'S A WATER MAIN OR A SEWER FACILITY, THAT IT REQUIRES AN INDEMNITY AGREEMENT, AND THAT'S JUST TO PROTECT US IN CASE, FOR SOME REASON, WE NEED TO GO AND DO MAINTENANCE AND WE BREAK SOMETHING.
THE ENGINEERS ARE PRETTY CONFIDENT AT THIS POINT THAT IT WON'T EVEN BE NECESSARY, BUT JUST IN CASE WE NEEDED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THOSE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE.
SO THERE'S A CONDITION TONIGHT AS WELL IN YOUR PACKET RELATED TO THAT.
WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CONCLUDE AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> THANKS, GARRET. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER KEENAN?
>> JUST ONE. SO THE APPLICANT AGREES WITH THE THREE CONDITIONS STATED BY THE STAFF?
>> YES. I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT IN OUR PRESENTATION.
BUT YES, WE AGREE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT STAFF HAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS.
>> AS LONG AS WE'RE GOING TO SATISFY THE PRECONDITIONS THAT STAFF HAS PUT IN PLACE, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR.
>> IT'S THE WHOLE PAGE ON EXHIBIT 1.
YOU GUYS KEEP MAKING IT BETTER AND BETTER, AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE.
>> I HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH IT.
>> I ONLY HAD ONE QUESTION TIMING WISE ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO IS THIS ALL GOING TO BE DONE DURING THE SUMMER SO THAT THERE'S NO DISRUPTION TO SPRING TRAINING?
>> THE PROGRAM THAT WE DID, AS MR. BAUER INDICATED, IS ABOUT A 12-MONTH PERIOD.
IT WILL BE STAGED BETWEEN RENOVATIONS OF THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES THAT ARE THERE, AND THEN THE NEW BUILDINGS WILL BE A PART OF A PORTION OF IT.
BUT WE ANTICIPATE NO INTERRUPTION OF THE SPRING TRAINING ACTIVITIES.
THAT'S, AS I STATED IN THE BEGINNING, WE WANT OUR TEAMS TO STAY HERE, TO PLAY HERE IN JUPITER.
>> VERY GOOD. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
>> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION?
>> I'D LIKE TO ASK ONE LITTLE QUESTION.
THE BRICKS THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT THEY PUT THEIR NAMES AND ALL THAT STUFF ON. ARE THOSE GOING TO REMAIN?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY THE APPLICANT WITH REGARD INCLUDING I GUESS EXHIBIT 1, WHICH HAS THE CONDITIONS FOR COMPLIANCE.
>> LIKE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT?
>> GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> VERY GOOD, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO COUNSEL AND WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED CONSTRUCTION HOPEFULLY.
[5.B.3. Exceptions to Development Regulations and Definitions]
EXCEPTIONS TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND DEFINITIONS.THIS IS INITIATED BY THE TOWN SO THE STAFF GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION ON THIS.
>> GOOD EVENING. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME?
[00:30:04]
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME UP HERE.THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS, JUST TO BE BRIEF, IS TO ADDRESS A LOOPHOLE THAT WAS CREATED IN 2021 WHEN THE TOWN ADOPTED THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE BEACON PHARMACEUTICALS, WHICH IS NO LONGER AN ACTIVE APPLICATION.
IT OPENED THE DOOR TO ALLOW, IN PARTICULAR, THE TWO EXAMPLES WE SHOWED YOU IN THE PACKET, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, TO EKE OUT A THIRD, ALBEIT SMALLER, BUT WHAT APPEARED TO BE A THIRD STORY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACTS OF THAT.
THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY FOUR MAJOR CHANGES TO THE CODE.
THE FIRST ONE BEING TO THE DEFINITIONS, AND THAT IS TO ADDRESS DEFINITIONS OF STORY AND GROSS FLOOR AREA.
THE SECOND IS TO PROVIDE AN INTENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION OF THE CODE, AND TWO, THE INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE IT IS COMPATIBLE, IT HAS THE CORRECT CHARACTER OF THE AREA IN WHICH THE STRUCTURE IS PROPOSED.
THE THIRD ONE IS TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THOSE DEVELOPMENT EXCEPTIONS RELATED TO HEIGHT, AND THOSE RELATE TO THE ROOFTOP MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, STAIR TOWERS, AND ELEVATOR BULKHEADS.
THEN FINALLY, THE LAST ITEM IS A NEW PROVISION THAT PROHIBITS THE USE OF SHADE STRUCTURES ON THE ROOFTOP OF BUILDINGS THAT CREATE OR EXCEED THE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS OF THAT DISTRICT.
THOSE ARE THE FOUR BIG THINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE.
WE DID NOTICE THE TWO EXAMPLES IN HERE.
WE DID LET THE PROPERTY OWNER KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING THROUGH SO THAT THEY WERE AWARE AS WELL.
BASICALLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD WAS AWARE YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING RELATED TO THE TWO INDIVIDUAL HOUSES.
THIS IS A TOWN WIDE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES.
THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES TO VISUALIZE SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT WERE CREATED UNINTENTIONALLY BY THE ADOPTION OF THE PRIOR ORDINANCE.
>> I'M SORRY. DID YOU SAY WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE TWO HOUSES THAT WERE MENTIONED?
>> NO. THEY'RE JUST CITED AS EXAMPLES TO ILLUSTRATE HOW SOME DESIGNS ARE COMING FORWARD TRYING TO USE SOME OF THOSE LOOP HOLES.
BOTH ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING, SO THESE AREN'T REALLY THE FINAL PLANS.
I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
>> ARE THERE ACTIVE SUBMISSIONS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS TEXT AMENDMENT?
>> YES. BECAUSE WE WORKED WITH THEM, WE RECOGNIZE THE ISSUE AND THAT IT WAS AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
IN THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES, PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE SPEC HOMES, SO WE DON'T HAVE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS AND IT WAS AN ARCHITECT WHO WAS LOOKING AT THEM.
>> YOU'RE ASKING US TO ESSENTIALLY CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE PRETTY MUCH AND PUT THIS NEW VERBIAGE IN SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CREEPAGE ON HYPE THE BUILDINGS.
>> ULTIMATELY GET TOWN COUNCIL POLICY DIRECTION.
YOU MAY BE OKAY WITH WHAT IS OCCURRING.
WE JUST SAW IT TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE TWO STORY LIMITATION THAT EXISTS IN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R1, AND THOUGHT WE SHOULD BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION AND BUBBLE IT UP BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
>> WE WOULD BE VOTING TO ADOPT WHAT YOU HAVE HERE AS FAR AS THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
>> YOU'LL BE VOTING TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY ADOPT A CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE.
>> JOHN, IS THERE A REASON WHY IN 272305, THE HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS, WHY THE ENTIRE PROVISION DOESN'T MAKE REFERENCE TO IT BEING APPLICABLE TO NON-RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE BUILDINGS THE ENTIRE SECTION? IS THERE SOME REASON WHY SOME OF THESE ITEMS MUST REMAIN POSSIBLE? IN OTHER WORDS, I'M LOOKING AT SHUTTING DOWN THE WHOLE POSSIBILITY NOW AND SAYING NON-RESIDENTIAL ONLY FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT.
[00:35:02]
>> FOR EXAMPLE, CHIMNEYS HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO EXCEED THE ROOF HEIGHT, SO THAT IT PREVENTS FIRES, FOR EXAMPLE.
THOSE THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN THE ISSUE BECAUSE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY INCREASE LIVABLE SPACE, OR POTENTIALLY AIR CONDITIONED SPACE, TANKS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WATER TOWERS.
WE GET VERY FEW OF THOSE, SO WE DIDN'T SEE IT AS AN ISSUE.
FIRE TOWERS, ORNAMENTAL TOWERS, THOSE AREN'T TYPICALLY WE NOTICE AS PART OF BUILDING PERMITS, IF THEY'RE AIR CONDITIONED SPACE AND IF THEY'RE EXCEEDING SOMETHING AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT, THAT'S HOW THESE TWO PERMITS WERE DETAILED.
AND WE LOOKED AT THEM AND WE WERE ABLE TO BUBBLE THIS UP AS [INAUDIBLE]
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
>> OH, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
>> NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
>> THANKS, JOAN. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> YES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 6-24, EXEMPTIONS TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND DEFINITIONS.
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.
>> JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. WE'LL HAVE TO CORRECT THAT.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AND WE WILL JUST NEED TO CONFIRM THE ORDINANCE NUMBER BEFORE THIS DATE. SORRY FOR THAT.
>> LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS LINKAGE FEES.
[5.B.4. Linkage Fees]
THIS IS ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, AGAIN, INITIATED BY THE TOWN, SO THE STAFF WILL GIVE US THEIR PRESENTATION.GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. FOR THE RECORD, LIZZY CONLEY, PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A TOWN INITIATED ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO SECTION 207-30-1901 IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL LINKAGE FEE FROM 1-2 DOLLARS PER SQUARE FOOT.
AFTER THE FIRST 10,000 SQUARE FEET GROSS FLOOR AREA.
SO STAFF HAS DRAFTED THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE LINKAGE FEE AS REQUESTED BY TOWN COUNCIL DURING THE SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023 YEAR BASED AMENDMENT DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED AT THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
THE PURPOSE IS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INCREASES IN INFLATION, CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AND HOUSING DEMANDS.
THE BASIS IS THE MODIFICATION TO SET AN INCREMENTAL INCREASE IN THE LINKAGE FEE TO ADDRESS THE SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES IN LAND COSTS AND IMPACT OF INFLATION ON HOUSING CONSTRUCTION COSTS SINCE 2015, WHICH IS WHEN THE LINKAGE FEE WAS FIRST ADOPTED.
THE LINKAGE FEE IS THE COST TO THE DEVELOPER THAT'S LINKED TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE PURPOSE IS TO OFFSET THE WORKFORCE HOUSING NEED THAT IS CREATED THROUGH BUILDING NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE COLLECTION OF MONEY IS SET ASIDE WITHIN THE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND THE TOWN ESTABLISHED FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEPOSITING THOSE FUNDS COLLECTED PURSUANT TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM, AND CAN BE USED ONLY FOR SEVERAL HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN TOWN CODE.
WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL FIND A COMPILATION OF RESEARCH INCLUDING SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES AND THEIR LINKAGE FEES THAT WERE EITHER ADOPTED OR JUST INFORMATION FOUND THROUGH NEXUS STUDIES.
JUPITER HAS A LOW FEE BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL ADOPTION IN 2015.
SINCE THEN, WHEN YOU COMPARE THE MEDIAN HOUSING COSTS IN JUPITER, THEY HAVE SINCE DOUBLED, WHICH WOULD CONSTITUTE THE LINKAGE FEE GOING FROM $1-$2 INCREASING THIS RATE TO TWO DOLLARS CAN BE AN INTERIM RATE UNTIL THE TOWN COUNCIL DISCUSSES THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AT A FUTURE ROUND TABLE TO BE HAPPENING IN QUARTER 2 OF THIS YEAR.
THEY MAY CONSIDER KEEPING THE TWO DOLLAR RATE OR UNDERTAKING A NEXUS STUDY TO ESTABLISH A NEW RATE.
THIS TEXT CHANGE IS BASED OFF OF THE DIRECTION GIVEN AT COUNCIL TO NARROW THE GAP OF INFLATION AND INCREASING HOUSING COSTS, AND THIS TWO DOLLARS CAN BE THE INTERIM AMOUNT UNTIL THE ROUND TABLE.
SO LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
[00:40:04]
>> I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN YOU SAY IT'S GOING TO NARROW THE GAP FROM INFLATION, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY DOUBLING THE PRICE, CORRECT?
>> YES. SO THIS IS THE THE COST THAT IS TO THE DEVELOPER AND SO IT'S INCREASING THE COST THAT IT WOULD COST TO CREATE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF THE COST TO BUILD THAT HOUSING.
SO THAT'S WHY THE RATE IS INCREASED.
>> DID THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION?
>> YES. DOESN'T MEAN I LIKE THE ANSWER, BUT YES.
>> IT DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO ACTUALLY COVERING THE COST, BUT IT'S REDUCING THE GAP.
>> SO WHAT IS THE COST? WHAT WOULD COME CLOSER TO THAT?
>> THE NUMBERS THAT WERE IN THE STAFF REPORT GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE CHARGING.
ON PAGE 303, IN PALM BEACH GARDEN, THEY DIDN'T ADOPT THOSE CHARGES.
THEY'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING IT BY DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS.
BUT THEIR STUDIES SHOWED THAT INDUSTRIAL HAS AN IMPACT OF $10.30 PER SQUARE FOOT.
COMMERCIAL IS 19, JUST OVER $19.
HOTEL IS $11, AND EXTENDED STAY IS JUST 86 CENTS.
IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE ESTIMATED REAL COST IS THAT HAS BEEN PRODUCED FROM NEXUS STUDIES BY OTHER COMMUNITIES.
AND THAT'S WHY WE CONSIDER OUR FEE A NOMINAL FEE BECAUSE IT'S ON THE VERY LOW SIDE.
>> I THINK, CYNTHIA, THIS IS COMPLICATED AND HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, EVEN IF I'M IN COMMERCIAL ESTATE.
THIS IS A FEE THAT IS PAID BY A DEVELOPER WHO'S BUILDING IN THE CITY, WHO'S NOT BUILDING WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE PUT IN A POOL OF MONEY THAT THE TOWN CAN USE TO HELP WORKFORCE HOUSING BE CONSTRUCTED.
>> IS IT OFTEN USED AS AN IMPACT FEE? IS THAT A TERM THAT THEY USE FOR INTERCHANGEABLY?
>> IT'S NOT QUITE AN IMPACT FEES, NO.
IT'S A LINKAGE FEE TO WHAT IMPACT YOU ARE MAKING, BUT GIVEN THE COMMERCIAL, NON-RESIDENTIAL USERS.
>> IMPACT FEES I THINK ARE NORMALLY USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> TRAFFIC, SCHOOLS, ROADS, LIBRARY.
>> OTHER STUFF. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TAG FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING TO HELP US BUILD MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
>> IT GOES INTO OUR HOUSING TRUST FUND, WHICH IS THE OTHER REASON WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A ROUND TABLE WITH TOWN COUNCIL BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT TWO-AND-A-HALF MILLION IN THAT FUND TODAY.
AND SO WE LIKE MORE INPUT ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH USING THAT MONEY IN ORDER TO PRODUCE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
>> IF WE AGREE WITH THIS, ARE WE LIMITING OR HAMSTRINGING COUNCIL TO 1-$2 FOR THE IMPACT FEE?
>> NO, BECAUSE WE CAN AFTER THE ROUND TABLE, WE'LL BE GETTING INPUT FROM COUNCIL AND THEY MAY SAY, WELL, WE WANT TO KEEP TWO DOLLARS OR WE WANT TO DO A NEXUS STUDY IN ORDER TO PRODUCE THE AMOUNT THAT'S APPROPRIATE, CLOSER TO THE COST OF PRODUCING WORKFORCE HOUSING OR THEY MAY SAY IT'S FINE.
BUT THIS IS JUST AN INTERIM STEP AS MISS CONLEY HAD STATED.
>> COMMISSIONER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> COMMISSIONER GUISINGER? BACK TO THAT AGAIN. THE CURRENT LINKAGE FEES TIED BACK TO 2015 DATA, THE ONE DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT.
TO NARROW THE GAP USING TYPE OF GAP ANALYSIS BETWEEN THEN AND NOW.
THE INFLATION RATE INCREASED HOUSING COSTS IS SUPPORTED BY 100% INCREASE IN THE CURRENT FEE RATE FROM $1-$2.
>> WELL, THE ORIGINAL RATE OF A DOLLAR WAS A NOMINAL FEE AT THE TIME WHEN WE LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
THEY WERE STILL LOOKING AT FEES GREATER THAN, AS I RECALL CORRECTLY, THEY WERE AT LEAST SEVEN DOLLARS OR MORE AT THE TIME AS A FLAT RATE.
[00:45:02]
NOW THE ONES THAT ARE IN ON PAGE 4-3, GIVE VARYING RATES DEPENDING UPON THE USES.THAT'S WHY WHEN WE TALKED TO DEVELOPERS AT THE TIME WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 2015 WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM, THEY AGREED THAT A DOLLAR, A SQUARE FOOT MINUS THE 10,000 WAS PRETTY NOMINAL AND WE WOULDN'T CAUSE A LOT OF IT.
>> IT DIDN'T NECESSITATE DOING A STUDY BECAUSE THE FEE WAS SO LOW.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE MORE CLOSER TO WHAT THE ACTUAL DEMAND IS OR IMPACT TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO AN EXCESS STUDY TO GET MORE SPECIFIC DATA BASED ON YOUR LOCATION AND COSTS.
>> WE DON'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN ANY OF THE PROPERTY TYPES NOW.
IT'S JUST ONE DOLLAR FOR NON RESIDENTIAL ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> WAS IT 2.7, 2.5 MILLION YOU SAID YOU'VE COLLECTED TO DATE
>> HOW IS THAT MONEY ALLOCATED? IS IT STILL SITTING THERE OR WE'RE ACTUALLY USING IT TOWARDS WORKFORCE HOUSING?
>> IT'S JUST SITTING THERE RIGHT NOW IN THE HOUSING TRUST FUND, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ROUNDTABLE WITH COUNCIL BECAUSE PALM BEACH COUNTY APPROVED THEIR HOUSING BOND AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO USE THE MONEY IN ORDER TO PRODUCE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT SIMILAR IDEA.
>> IT'S NOT PERTINENT TO THIS DISCUSSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND AT A LATER TIME HOW THAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED THEN, HOW'S THEY GET FROM THE TOWN TO A BUILDER FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THAT'S WHAT THE DISCUSSION AND POLICY DIRECTION WE NEED TO GET FROM COUNCIL.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTION.
>> FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, ARE THERE OTHER WAYS TO GENERATE FUNDS FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING OTHER THAN FROM THE LINKAGE FEE?
>> WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FEE IN LIEU FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU REQUIRE RESIDENTIAL WORKFORCE HOUSING ON A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD YOUR WORKFORCE HOUSING ON THE SITE.
THE FEE IN LIEU IS 2000,000 FOR SALE AND THEN IT'S SLIGHTLY LESS FOR RENTAL.
THAT'S WHERE MUCH OF THE MONEY HAS COME FROM.
>> BUT OTHER MONEY COULD BE RAISED THROUGH GENERAL FUND ALLOCATIONS OR OTHER FUND RESOURCES.
>> SOME MUNICIPALITIES USE THEIR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT MONEY OR THEIR SHIP MONEY WHICH IS GENERATED.
WE GET COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT MONEY, ABOUT 300,000 EVERY YEAR.
THERE'S OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT IT COULD BE COUPLES WITH, BUT WE HAVEN'T GONE THERE YET.
>> ALSO CRAS COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES.
>> BUT OUR CRA DOES NOT LIST WORKFORCE HOUSING OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS PART OF THE EXISTING CRA PLAN.
>> THE SECOND QUESTION, THE DOLLAR LINKAGE FEE, RIGHT NOW.
WE SAID IT'S CURRENTLY BEING GENERATED.
THERE'S 2.5 MILLION THAT'S SITTING.
IT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR ANY WORKFORCE HOUSING AT THIS POINT.
IT WOULD ONLY BE USED FOR FUTURE.
>> CORRECT. THAT ALL OF THAT MONEY IS NOT FROM LINKAGE FEE CONTRIBUTIONS.
MOST OF IT IS FROM DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS.
>> JUST ONE QUESTION. HAS A ROUND TABLE BEEN SCHEDULED YET WITH TOWN COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THIS?
>> WE'RE SHOOTING FOR APRIL, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN PLACED ON AN AGENDA CALENDAR YET BY ADMINISTRATION.
>> VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM?
THERE'S NO COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO SECTION 27-3191 TO INCREASE THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL LINKAGE FEE FROM $1 TO $2 PER SQUARE FOOT AFTER THE FIRST 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS, FOUR AREA.
[00:50:01]
[STAFF UPDATE]
>> WE'VE MOVED INTO A NEW BUILDING WHICH YOU'VE BEEN INTRODUCED TONIGHT.
THE ITEMS THAT HAVE GONE FORWARD TO COUNCIL CENTRAL LAST MEETING.
ALL OF THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE COMP PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
THE K2 MOTORSPORTS WAS APPROVED, PRETTY SURE WITHOUT ANY CHANGES.
THE SEA GLASS TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT ON BUSH ROAD WAS APPROVED WITH THE AFIN INCREASING THEIR CONTRIBUTION AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC BENEFIT AND THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 75,000 TO BE DEPOSITED INTO THE HOUSING TRUST FUND IN ADDITION TO THE 150 THEY WERE PROPOSING.
ZANZI OUR OVER FISHERMAN'S WHARF WAS APPROVED AND THE BUILDING CODE UPDATES WERE APPROVED.
THE APPLICATION REHEARING ORDINANCE HAS NOT BEEN HEARD BY COUNSEL, THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR FIRST READING NEXT TUESDAY ON FEBRUARY 20TH.
>> ONE QUESTION TO JOHN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> ON K2 MOTORS, ARE THEY SENDING YOU A REPORT, LIKE THEY PROMISED TO SHOWING THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT? NO MORE THAN 10.
>> THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO ONCE THEY INITIATE THEIR CHANGE, THEN THEY'LL FALL INTO A SYSTEM OF HAVING TO DO IT ALL.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT IS TWICE A YEAR MAYBE.
>> COMMENT. NO QUESTION BUT A COMMENT.
>> CHANGE YOUR COMMENTS. THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IS TUESDAY, MARCH 12TH.
I'M ADJOURNING AT, WHAT IS IT, 7:52. THANKS EVERYONE.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THOSE THAT PUT THIS FACILITY TOGETHER.
IT'S A REMARKABLE FACILITY, VERY PROUD OF IT, AND PROUD TO BE HERE.
I'M PROUD TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST PLANNING AND ZONING COUNCIL TO BE HERE.
I THINK THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
>> I WANT TO GET.
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