Jan 16, 2024 Town Council

>> THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 PM AND I ALONG WITH MY TOWN COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AND TOWN MANAGER,

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[Call to Order]

[BACKGROUND]

>> DEAR GOD, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER ON THIS DAY IN OUR NEW COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

WE HUMBLY ASK FOR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION TO CONDUCT A MEETING FILLED WITH WISDOM, PRODUCTIVITY, AND RESPECT.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, HELP US TO ACCOMPLISH OUR COMMON GOALS.

AMEN. LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

>> QUEEN, GEORGE, PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

[BACKGROUND] EVERYONE MAY BE SEATED.

I DO WANT TO THANK OUR TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF FOR ARRANGING US THE PRIVILEGE TONIGHT TO KICK OFF A MEETING WITH THE POLICE HONOR GUARD, THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> MAYOR KURETSKI.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR DELANEY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILOR FORE.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILOR MAY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM.

>> HERE.

>> TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW.

>> HERE.

>> TOWN ATTORNEY BAIRD.

>> HERE.

>> WE BEGIN AS WE HAD IN OUR OLD TOWN HALL WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> YES, MAYOR, WE HAVE SEVERAL.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH BRIAN BOLSER FOLLOWED BY DENISE CARLO.

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS BRIAN BOLSER.

>> EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY, WHEN YOU'RE CALLED UPON, YOU CAN COME UP TO EITHER MIC.

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS BRIAN BOLSER.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN JUPITER.

I LIVE IN MY CURRENT ADDRESS AT 1500 FOR NINE YEARS.

I LIVE HERE WITH MY GIRLFRIEND [INAUDIBLE] SOFTWARE COMPANY.

IT'S NOT LONG AFTER MOVING IN, I REALIZED THAT MY NEIGHBOR [INAUDIBLE].

OVER THE YEARS I HAVE SEEN A LOT [INAUDIBLE] BOAT, MY BRAND NEW TRUCK AND [INAUDIBLE].

ACTUALLY, THAT WAS JUST THIS WEEK.

AND ONE TIME I WAS IN THE MEETING WHEN MY DOG THREW UP CAT PIECES IN MY OFFICE.

DOGS LOVE TO EAT CAT PIECES.

I SHOULD KNOW SINCE I DID THE TRIP TWO TIMES, THAT COST ME BUNCH OF DOLLARS FOR VIRUS TO DRIVE.

IT WAS NOT UNTIL JANUARY 2023 THAT I FINALLY THREW IN THE TOWER.

I FILED A FORMAL COMPLAINT WITH THE JUPITER CODE COMPLIANCE SERVICE REQUEST 23000055 AFTER MULTIPLE REQUESTING WIND AND WATER.

OVER THE YEARS, THE 14, 22 SUMMER OUT, THE DEEPER, DOZENS OF CASTS IN CHECK, NOT IN MY YARD.

FOR MAGNITUDE. I ESTIMATE OVER 30 PAST RESIDE HERE.

YOU SEE, THESE SORTS OF THINGS WE DO WITH WORK FROM HOME.

SOMETIMES HARD TO TELL THAT SINCE YOU GET LOCKED IN OUTDOOR CAGES IN YOUR BACKYARD DURING THE DAY.

CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER HENRY CARDOSA IMMEDIATELY ACKNOWLEDGED AND RECOGNIZED THE ISSUE.

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YOU CAN SMELL A STENCH OF URINE AND FECES ALL OVER OUR BLOCK.

HAVE YOU HEARD OF TOXIN PLASM, PARASITIC DISEASE THAT CAN CAUSE ILLNESSES, CAN CAUSE COMPLICATIONS WITH PREGNANCIES? OVER THE NEXT YEAR THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH IN THE WAY OF PROGRESS.

THE SMELLS NOT A CHECK. I WAS TOLD THAT I JUST HAD A WEEK FOR THE EXPORT HERE WHICH YIELDED ZERO RESULTS.

SOMEHOW THE CODE VIOLATION WAS TWISTED INTO A ROOFING CONCERN FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS FAR FROM WHAT THE CONCERN IS WITH THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORS.

I DID NOT ONLY CONTACT THE TOWN OF JUPITER, I FILED DOZENS OF REQUESTS WITH POLICE COUNTY CONTROL SPECIFICALLY WORKING WITH OFFICER BLACK INVESTIGATION.

I WAS QUICKLY TOLD THAT THE DOZENS OF CATS THAT RESIDE IN [INAUDIBLE] SUMMER HOT WERE ACTUALLY COMMUNITY CATS.

WHILE HENRY HERDS TO THE PHONE, HE PROVIDED THE SMOKING GUN TO OFFICER BLACK.

PHOTOGRAPHS OF CATS ENTERING AND LEAVING HER RESIDENCE THROUGH THE OPEN WINDOW, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.

THIS MEANS THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR LINDA WATERS.

SHE CAN FEED AND BREED CATS TO HER HEART'S CONTENT SINCE THEY ARE NOT HERS BY THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN I ASKED THE CITY CLERK, HOW DOES THIS KIND OF THING RESOLVE ITSELF? SHE ANSWERED ME, TO BE HONEST, WE'VE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN OUR TOWN.

NOT HERE, NOT IN A SPECIAL BASIS OF JUPITER.

THESE ARE NOT HEALTHY CATS.

THEY HAVE ONE EYE AND 11 TOES FROM INJURY.

I STAND HERE TODAY TO SAY, THESE ARE NOT MY CASTS OR THE COMMUNITY'S.

THEY DEGRADE MY QUALITY OF LIFE AND PUT MYSELF, MY FAMILY, AND MY DOG AT HEALTH RISK.

THEY DAMAGE MY PROPERTY, THEY EVALUATE MY HOME AND THEY EVEN MEET UP WHILE I TRAVEL ACROSS MY ROOM.

PLEASE HEAR ME, MY NEIGHBORS, AND MY COMMUNITY AND TAKE ACTION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AS A MATTER OF PRACTICE WE'LL HAVE OUR STAFF GET WITH US AFTER THIS AND WE'LL GET AN UPDATE.

BUT WE REGRET YOU'RE GOING THROUGH WHAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH.

>> DENISE CARLO.

>> HI, MY NAME IS DENISE CARLO.

I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD WITH BRIAN.

I'M ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT COMMUNITY WITH THESE CATS.

THERE'S 30 PLUS CATS AND THEY ARE RUINING OUR LANDSCAPING.

I DON'T EVEN LIVE BEHIND HER, I LIVE DOWN ON ANOTHER ROAD, AND MY WHOLE BACKYARD IS NOW A SANDBOX, AS OTHERS ARE, WITH URINE AND FECES EVERYWHERE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. BRIAN HAS WORKED ON THIS FOR A YEAR.

WE CAME TO YOU BECAUSE WE JUST NEED ASSIST WITH THIS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

THEY'RE DESTROYING OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE WORKED SO HARD ON AND IT'S COSTING A LOT OF MONEY FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN PROPERTIES OR TO GET RID OF CATS.

ANYWAY, WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANYTHING ANYBODY CAN HELP US WITH. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WILL BE JOHN ZAJURA FOLLOWED BY WAYNE POSNER.

>> HI, MY NAME IS JOHN ZAJURA.

I LIVE AT 1514 SUMMER AVENUE.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE YOU'RE WORKING IN HERE.

I'LL COME MORE OFTEN TO SEE IT.

I'M ALSO INVOLVED IN THIS CAT THING.

ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, I WAS ON MY WAY OUT OF TOWN AND I WAS DOING A PROPERTY CHECK AND I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING UNDER MY SHED; AND I LOOKED AND I COULD JUST SEE EYES.

WELL, ONE OF THE CATS HAD BABY CATS AND THERE WERE FOUR OF THEM UNDER MY SHED.

SO I SPENT THE NEXT TWO HOURS TRYING TO GET THEM OUT OF THERE BEFORE I HAD A RUN OFF TO THE AIRPORT.

I FINALLY DID GET THEM ALL, GET THEM OUT OF THERE AND HANDED THEM OFF TO MY NEIGHBOR, WHO THEN DEALT WITH THEM FOR THE NEXT DAY AND A HALF TO TRY TO GET RID OF THESE KITTENS.

AS IT TURNED OUT, I SAW THE MAMA CAT A FEW TIMES, AND NOW I SEE THE MAMA CAT AT THIS RESIDENCE ALL THE TIME.

SO THAT'S WHERE THIS PROBLEM CAME FROM.

OTHER THAN THAT, I'M FIVE HOUSES DOWN, SO I DON'T GET THE SMELL PROBLEM.

BUT WHEN I WALK PAST THAT HOUSE, I COULD SMELL IT AND PEOPLE LIKE BRIAN AND THE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE DIRECTLY NEXT TO IT, THEY CANNOT POSSIBLY BE ENJOYING THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY YOUR PROPERTY AND THEY CAN'T, SO IT'S REALLY A NUISANCE.

I LOOKED UP JUST BEFORE I CAME TONIGHT, I LOOKED UP A FEW THINGS IN THE CODE.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN USE IN THERE.

THERE'S MAXIMUM NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLD PETS.

NO MORE THAN FIVE PETS OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF.

NOW, IF THE OWNERS CLAIM AND THEY'RE NOT HER PETS, LET'S GO TO THIS OTHER THING, VACCINATIONS ANNUAL.

ALL DOGS OR CATS HAVE TO SHOW VACCINATION, PROOF OF RABIES VACCINE STUFF.

IF THEY CAN'T BE SHOWN, IF THERE ARE NO ONE,

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THEN THERE'S ANOTHER THING I FOUND WAS INTERESTING IN THE CODE THAT COULD GET MORE TEETH IN THIS IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING IN THE CODE HERE ABOUT ANIMALS AND PETS.

NO OWNER OR PERSON IN CHARGE OF ANY DOG, CAT, OR OTHER PET ANIMAL SHALL PERMITTED TO RUN AT LARGE IN THE COMMUNITY OR COMMIT ANY NUISANCE WITHIN THE LIMITS OF ANY MOBILE HOME PARK.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S LIMITED TO MOBILE HOME PARKS.

MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE EXPANDED TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY IN JUPITER.

THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WAYNE POSNER.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MAYOR.

WAYNE POSNER, 315 CARINA DRIVE.

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

I GOT TO ADMIT SOME OF THIS IS FRUITS OF MY LABOR.

HOWEVER, I THINK THE NEW COUNCIL AND THE NEW BUILDING, I SAID THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

YOU GUYS NEED TO RAISE. LOOK WHAT YOU DID.

LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL THIS PLACE IS.

COST OF LIVING HAS GONE UP.

THE MONEY YOU MAKE HERE IS JUST BARELY ENOUGH FOR GAS AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU DO.

I SEE ALL OF YOU VISIT HOMEOWNERS AND DO A LOT OF WORK OUTSIDE THE COUNCIL.

JIM, I KNOW YOU DO A LOT OF CHARITABLE WORK.

I THINK IT'S TIME AFTER 30 YEARS SINCE WE HAD THE FIRST RAISE.

IT'S BEEN OVER 30 YEARS SINCE ANYBODY GOT A RAISE HERE.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

ALSO, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON MY NORMAL SUBJECT WHICH IS DOLPHIN STREET, WHICH IS WHERE ANDY IS.

I SAW THE BEAUTIFUL VETERANS MEMORIAL.

SEEING JUST THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS A NICE THING TO SEE, BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR OUR VETERANS? OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW BY NOW, I'VE SAID THIS AT MANY MEETINGS.

ANDY WAS A VETERAN OF VIETNAM WAR, AND ALL HE'S ASKING FOR IS GET HIS STREET FIXED.

WE SHOULDN'T BE DINGING THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET AFTER LIVING THERE FOR 25 YEARS AND PAYING TAXES.

A LOT OF OTHER STREETS HAVE BEEN FIXED IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

FOR SOME REASON IT KEEPS ON GETTING SKIPPED.

DOLPHIN IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL STREET, WITH BEAUTIFUL HOMES OFF OUR MAIN DRAG, WHICH IS I CONSIDER CENTER STREET, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA AND I THINK HE DESERVES SOMETHING AND HIS NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

AGAIN, IT'S A FEATURE AS WELL.

YOU CAN'T GET A RESCUE TRUCK DOWN THERE AND BE ABLE TO MAKE A U TURN AND RESCUE SOMEONE AND HIS WIFE IS DISABLED.

THAT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS DONE SOONER THAN LATER.

PLEASE CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING FOR DOLPHIN STREET.

NOW THAT WE'RE IN THIS NEW BUILDING, WE SHOULD HAVE A NEW STREET FOR SOME OF THE CITIZENS.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S ASKING TOO MUCH.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

I'M NOT SURE WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL, I THINK YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE ONE OF THOSE CODES AS THESE PEOPLE WERE JUST ASKING TO DO ABOUT THE MOBILE HOME PARK.

I'M NOT SURE YOU'D HAVE TO ASK, MR. BAIRD, IF YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO EXPAND THAT ONE CODE FROM MOBILE HOMES INTO ALL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO ASK MR. BAIRD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BRETT LEONE, FOLLOWED BY KAREN VINCENT.

>> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL, TOWN MANAGER, TOWN ATTORNEY.

BEAUTIFUL NEW DIGS WE HAVE HERE TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT THE MICROPHONES WORK VERY WELL AS WELL BECAUSE IT WAS HARD TO HEAR YOU ALL SOMETIMES AT THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

HOPE THE RECORDINGS ARE PRETTY GOOD.

TO TOUCH ON WHAT MR. POSNER MENTIONED.

THIS BEING A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, I KNOW DURING YOUR REMARKS, MAYOR KURETSKI, YOU TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THOSE THAT WERE INVOLVED AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

I DO THINK A PLAQUE ON THIS BUILDING HONORING THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE YOU ALL TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS BUILDING IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE AND WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SOMETHING ELSE I TALKED TO YOU ALL BEFORE IS THE LIGHTING AT INTERSECTIONS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, LAST FRIDAY NIGHT, THERE WAS A FATALITY WITHIN THE ABACOA COMMUNITY AT AN INTERSECTION THAT I CONSIDER TO BE PRETTY DARK, AT LEAST WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IS.

IN SPEAKING WITH SOME OTHER PEOPLE, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THAT.

THERE'S OTHER INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE QUITE DARK THROUGHOUT THE TOWN THAT HAVE BEEN THE RESULT OF ACCIDENTS.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH PUBLICS WORK DIRECTOR.

I HOPE YOU ALL CAN CONTINUE TO PUSH THIS MOVING FORWARD.

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I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT.

AT THE LAST MEETING IN THE OLD CHAMBERS, I BROUGHT UP TRANSPARENCY AND I WAS LOOKING BACK THROUGH SOME MINUTES.

I NOTICED THAT AS OF THE OCTOBER 19TH MEETING, THE FORMAT OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MINUTES HAVE CHANGED.

PREVIOUSLY, IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD SYNOPSIS.

YOU COULD GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS SAID AT THESE MEETINGS.

NOW IT'S LITERALLY A SENTENCE OR A MOTION WAS MADE, THERE'S NO INFORMATION, THERE'S NO WAY FOR THE PUBLIC GET THIS INFORMATION AND TRANSPARENCY HAS ONLY GONE DOWNHILL.

I'LL SAY THIS AGAIN, BECAUSE I SAID IT LAST TIME, MOST OF YOU SITTING UP HERE AND THOSE WHO WANT TO RUN IN THE FUTURE RUN ON THE WORD TRANSPARENCY.

THE OTHER THING, TRUST.

LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, DROPS THE TRUST IN THE PUBLIC AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU CONTINUE TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT JUPITER FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

I'M NOT HERE TO SAY YAY OR NAY AGAINST IT.

BUT I THINK IF YOU HAD MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE, MORE TRANSPARENCY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU ALL MADE YOUR DECISIONS, RATHER THAN BEING REACTIVE, LET'S BE PROACTIVE.

LET'S GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PEOPLE.

SPEAKING OF BEING PROACTIVE, ONE LAST THING.

THESE E-BIKES, I THINK THE TOWN, WE WANT TO TALK TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND OTHERS ABOUT IT, BUT LET'S BE PROACTIVE ABOUT THOSE.

I ALMOST T-BONED A KID ON AN E-BIKE THE OTHER DAY AND HE COULD HAVE BEEN THE SECOND FATALITY IN ABACOA.

I HAD ACTUALLY STOPPED AT A STOP SIGN AND HE FLEW RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND PERHAPS WATCHING ONLINE.

THE TOWN PUTS OUT TWO SETS OF MINUTES.

THE NEXT DAY, STAFF PUTS OUT ONE LINERS SO THAT INFORMATION IS OUT THERE UNTIL REGULAR MINUTES ARE DONE.

WE'RE STILL CONTINUING WITH THE PROCESS WE ALWAYS HAVE ON THOSE MEETING MINUTES.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE MEETING, YOU'LL SEE WE'RE GOING TO BE ACTING ON MEETING MINUTES WHICH ARE THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.

PLEASE BE ASSURED OF THAT, THAT CERTAINLY HAVE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE REALLY PUSHED THE TRANSPARENCY TO IMPROVE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M RECOGNIZING THEM AND EMPHASIZING WE HAVEN'T CUT SHORT.

THEY PUT IT OUT SO IT IS VERY BRIEF THE NEXT DAY, BUT THEN PEOPLE SEE AT LEAST WHAT HAPPENED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BUT THANK YOU.

>> KAREN VINCENT.

>> HI. MY NAME IS KAREN BENSON, 1003 C STREET. THIS IS AWESOME.

IT'S DEFINITELY DESERVED AND DEFINITELY AN UPGRADE FROM THE OTHER COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

I'M HERE TODAY FOR A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT THE FIRST ONE THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY SHOCKED AND SURPRISED, IS FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE TOWN'S LOOKING TO TAKE INDIAN CREEK PARK AND PUT A FIRE DEPARTMENT ON TOP OF THAT.

THAT'S AN 11-ACRE PARK THAT'S THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY, BEST PLACE IN TOWN TO GO LOOK AT A SUNSET BECAUSE YOU HAVE WIDE OPEN VIEW.

WE'RE GOING TO CROWD IT AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE PARK SPACE AND GREEN SPACE AWAY FROM THE KIDS.

IT'S A VERY NICE FAMILY PARK TO GO TO.

NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE FORCED TO GIVE UP PART OF THAT PARK LAND TO BUILD FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S GOING TO BE UP AT THE FRONT THAT'S GOING TO BE BLOCKING PART OF YOUR VIEW.

IT'S A VERY GOOD WATER PARK, IT HAS BRIDGE.

IT HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THERE THAT IT'D BE A SHAME TO CUT IT SHORT JUST TO PUT A FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE.

IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE A THREE-MINUTE EXTENSION ON TIME RESPONSE IN SEVERAL COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DOWN PAST RESCUE FIRE STATION 19.

THAT'S ADDING THREE MINUTES, THREE MINUTES CAN BE A LIFE.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE MORE IF WE ALLOW YOU TO TAKE THE PARKS AND WE DON'T SAY ANYTHING AND WE DON'T FIGHT FOR OUR PARKS, THEN THE MORE YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO TAKE IT FOR PET PROJECTS.

SOON THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY LEFT.

JUPITER HAS ALREADY BUILT OUT.

THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE.

WHY DO YOU KEEP BUILDING? WHY DUPLICATE WHAT'S ALREADY HERE IN THE COMMUNITY? YOU ALREADY HAVE FIRE DEPARTMENTS HERE.

YOU'RE THE ONE THAT CHOSE THAT YOU NEEDED TO BUILD MORE IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY BUILT OUT AND YOU KNEW YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPERTY TO DO IT.

YOU'RE BUILDING ONE AT PIE PLACE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE OTHER COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT THERE IS, WHICH LOOKS SILLY, BUT AT LEAST IT'S A PLACE AND A PROPERTY THAT IS NOT PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED AS PARK AND FROM THE DRAWINGS THAT I SAW, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE REALLY SUPER NICE, BUT TO TAKE AWAY FROM INDIAN CREEK PARK, I THINK IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

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WHY NOT STIPULATE THE PART OF THE PROPERTY THERE BE USED FOR FIRE RESCUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE FAIRLY CLOSE TO FIRE 19, AND YOU WOULD HAVE A CLOSE RESPONSE TIME, AND THEN THAT DEVELOPER COULD ASSIST IN THE COUNTY, INSTEAD OF TAKING AWAY FROM PARKS.

YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE BUILT OUT, YOUR DENSITY IS ALREADY DOUBLE WHAT PALM BEACH GARDEN'S DENSITY IS.

WHY NOT HAVE THE DEVELOPERS HELP YOU TO FACILITATE HAVING A PLACE? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANDY WESTON, FOLLOWED BY JEN CLYER.

>> IT'S A MUCH FURTHER WALK.

[NOISE] GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE TOWN COUNCIL STAFF.

IT IS A GREAT PLACE.

I SENT YOU, A LAST MINUTE, A PICTURE OFF OF DOLPHIN DRIVE AND IT'S THREE YEARS OF PICTURES OF THE SAME SPOT ON DOLPHIN DRIVE WHERE THERE'S A GAS IN THE ROAD, AND THIS IS JUST INDICATIVE OF THE ENTIRE ROAD, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT STAGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IT, BUT THE ROAD IS JUST COMING APART.

IT'S FLOODED EVERY TIME IT RAINS, THE WATER DISAPPEARS, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY? I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU'D RETHINK WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING WITH THE WATER.

THAT IS THE TIME TO GET THIS THING DONE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE TEARING UP THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND YOU'RE TEARING UP ALL THE DRIVEWAYS.

YOU DID NOT GIVE CONSIDERATION IN THIS.

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO ADDRESS THE AMOUNT, IT WAS JUST SO RIDICULOUS THAT YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND, IF YOU HAD TO DO THE FIXED DOLPHIN DRIVE.

YOU NEED FOUR FEET OF ASPHALT ON THE WEST SIDE, THAT'S ABOUT $40,000.

BUT YOU'RE NOT GIVING CONSIDERATION TO THE FACT THAT ON THOSE FOUR FEET YOU'VE RIPPED UP ALL THOSE DRIVEWAYS.

THERE'S 14 DRIVEWAY CUTS, AND SO YOU'RE REALLY ONLY DOING ABOUT 75% OF THAT.

YOU'RE SAVING THE MONEY HAVING TO REPLACE THE DRIVEWAYS, FOUR FEET OF THE DRIVEWAYS.

FRANK, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET STARTED ON THIS AGAIN.

I'VE HELD BACK BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD THESE OTHER FUN THINGS TO DEAL WITH, AND DOLPHIN DRIVE IS STILL ON MY AGENDA.

NOW, BACK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHY DON'T YOU PUT FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE ON THIS PROPERTY? YOU GOT THE SPACE HERE.

THAT WOULD BE ALSO AN OPTION, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS IN ANY COMMENTS ON THE ACTION BY THE PETITION, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN ARTICLE 9.

I'M NOT A LAWYER, I DIDN'T STAY AT A HOLIDAY IN EXPRESS, BUT I DO READ ENGLISH, AND IT'S SAID ON RELATIVE TO PETITIONS, 'SUCH POWER SHALL NOT EXTEND TO THE BUDGET OR CAPITAL PROGRAM', AND THAT'S WHAT A FIRE DEPARTMENT IS.

NOT ONLY IS IT THE FORMATION OF THE DEPARTMENT, IT IS ALSO A BUDGET ITEM THAT YOU'VE DONE AND YOU CAN'T APPROVE THAT.

IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE IT, THEY SHOULD HAVE CHANGED THAT PROVISION ALONG WITH THE ABILITY NOT TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO GET APPROVAL TO DO A FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S MY OPINION.

I DID NOT STAY ON A HOLIDAY IN EXPRESS, SO YOU CAN TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. THANKS A LOT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GREAT JOB ON THIS BUILDING.

>> JEN CLAIR.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. JEN CLYER, RIVERSIDE DRIVE PARK.

JUPITER IS MY HOMETOWN.

I TRULY CARE ABOUT THOSE WHO LIVE HERE, WORK HERE, AND VISIT OUR AREA.

I'M A LIEUTENANT, FIREFIGHTER, PARAMEDIC WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY, AND A MEMBER OF LOCAL 2928.

I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A SMALL DEPARTMENT AND PBCFR, AS I WORKED FOR A SMALL DEPARTMENT IN OUR AREA PRIOR TO JOINING PBCFR.

JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS, I RISKED A SECURE POSITION WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT TO WORK FOR MY DREAM DEPARTMENT.

ONCE OFFERED A POSITION AS A FIREFIGHTER WITH PBCFR, MY JOB WAS NOT GUARANTEED.

THERE IS A THREE-MONTH RECRUIT ACADEMY AND A ONE-YEAR PROBATIONARY PERIOD THAT IS PASS FAIL.

WE HAVE INSTRUCTORS ASSIGNED TO RECRUITS THAT PROVIDE THEM, AND ME, WITH ALL THE TRAINING AND TOOLS THAT YOU NEED TO DO THE JOB, EXCEEDING THE NATIONAL STANDARD.

BUT IF YOU DON'T MEET PALM BEACH COUNTY STANDARDS AND PASS THE TEST AND

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I RISKED MY CAREER FOR AN UNKNOWN BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE A FIREFIGHTER WITH ONE OF THE BEST DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTRY, AND PROUDLY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY KNOWING WE ARE PROVIDING THEM THE VERY BEST CARE.

WHEN TALKS CAME UP ABOUT THE TOWN OF JUPITER TAKING OVER FIRE RESCUE SERVICES IN AUGUST, I FELT BLINDSIDED BECAUSE THE LAST I HAD HEARD THE CONTRACT HAD BEEN NEGOTIATED AND SIGNED TO CONTINUE WITH PBCFR.

JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR, THE TOWN TAKING OVER SERVICES DOES NOT IMPACT MY JOB IN ANY WAY.

WHAT IT DOES, IS IT TAKES AWAY THE LEVEL OF SERVICES PROVIDED TO MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS, AND MY NEIGHBORS IN THEIR GREATEST TIME OF NEED.

YOU CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COMPARE THE RESOURCES PROVIDED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE TO ANY OF THE SURROUNDING DEPARTMENTS IN OUR AREA, WHICH IS WHY SO MANY OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS HAVE LEFT SMALLER DEPARTMENTS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY AND BEYOND TO BE A PART OF THIS GREAT DEPARTMENT.

WHEN YOU ALL MADE THE DECISION WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC INPUT, RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MYSELF, APPROACHED THE TOWN ASKING QUESTIONS AND EXPRESSING CONCERNS.

YOU CHOSE NOT TO LET US BE ON ANY COMMITTEE OR PROVIDE US ANY INSIGHT.

INSTEAD, IT WAS AS IF YOU PLANTED YOUR FEET FURTHER IN THE GROUND AND IGNORED US.

WHEN THE RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MYSELF, APPROACHED LOCAL 2928 FOR HELP, THEY DID THE OPPOSITE OF YOU.

THEY SAT DOWN AND THEY LISTENED TO WHAT WE HAD TO SAY, ALLOWING FOR OUR VOICES TO FINALLY BE HEARD.

THERE ARE OVER 100 LOCAL 2928 FIREFIGHTERS THAT LIVE IN JUPITER, AND OUR MEMBERS SHOWED UP FOR THEM.

THEY TOOK TIME FROM THEIR DAY, OFF DUTY, JOINING FORCES WITH THE RESIDENTS TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT.

THEY ALSO AGREED TO HELP FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THE JUPITER RESIDENTS COALITION TO KEEP PALM BEACH COUNTY FIREFIGHTERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK LOCAL 2928 FOR THEIR HELP, BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM THE RESIDENTS OF THIS TOWN WOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE NO VOICE ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT AFFECTS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IN THIS ROOM.

THAT'S OUR HEALTH, OUR SAFETY, AND OUR WELL BEING.

MY BIGGEST FRUSTRATION IS THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY BY THE TOWN.

I FEEL THE CONTRACT WITH PBCFR WAS NEGOTIATED IN BAD FAITH AND THE NUMBERS PRESENTED TO THE RESIDENTS WERE INCORRECT AND MISLEADING.

MY TAX BILL FROM 2003 SHOWS A LOWER MSTU AND A DECREASE IN COST FOR FIRE RESCUE SERVICES FROM PBCFR THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR.

[NOISE] IT'S LOWER THIS YEAR.

YOU'VE ALREADY BEGUN TO SPEND TOWN OF JUPITER MONEY OUT OF RESERVES THAT WERE NOT LISTED ON THE CONSULTANT'S REPORT, WHICH MEANS YOU ARE ALREADY OVER BUDGET.

WE ASKED FOR ANOTHER CONSULTANT TO REVIEW THE COSTS AND YOU IGNORED US.

I'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ALL CHOSE NOT TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS.

YOU SERVE THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST THOSE WHO AGREE WITH YOU.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE LAST COMMENT IS FROM CINDY LOTT.

[NOISE]

>> HI, MY NAME IS CINDY LOTT.

I'M A MOTHER OF FOUR AND A GRANDMOTHER TO A BEAUTIFUL BABY GIRL.

I SPOKE THE LAST TIME, YOU KNOW WHY I'M HERE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

CONTRARY TO HEARING A MAN DESCRIPTION OF ME ON THOSE BODY CAMS I AM NOT JUST A GIRL AND I'M NOT A DUMMY.

MY KINDNESS SHOULD NOT BE MISTAKEN FOR WEAKNESS.

IT TAKES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF STRENGTH TO SPEAK WITH TRUTH AND GRACE.

THE CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT OCCURRED ON THE NIGHT OF MAY 23RD, 2023 AT 09:00 PM SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.

IF IT HAPPENED TO ME, A COOKIE-CUTTER JUPITER MOM, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE.

I JUST CAN'T LET THIS GO.

I HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS.

STATISTICALLY, WE AS WOMEN ARE AT A GREATER RISK OF VIOLENT SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HARASSMENT.

I WAS ALREADY A SURVIVOR PRIOR TO THAT NIGHT.

EVERY WOMAN SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE AT A TRAFFIC STOP.

NO WOMAN SHOULD BE FORCED INTO DANGER ON AN UNINHABITED HIGHWAY WITHOUT WITNESSES.

HIS POLICE REPORT EVEN STATES IN QUOTATION AND STATED SHE DID NOT FEEL SAFE.

I ADVISED LOTT, SHE PASSED SEVERAL SAFE POINTS TO COME TO A STOP.

THIS INCURRED WITHIN ONE MILE FROM THE ENTRANCE TRAMP OF 95 NORTH TO CVS, THE FIRST PLACE OF BUSINESS, THE FIRST PARKING LOT TO PULL INTO.

I CRIED EVERY DAY FROM THE DAY I WAS RELEASED FROM THE GUN CLUB JAIL UNTIL THE DAY MY CASE WAS FINALLY CLOSED MORE THAN THREE MONTHS LATER.

I ACCEPTED THE STATE OF FLORIDA DIVERSION DEAL SO I COULD FINALLY START TO BEGIN THE HEALING FROM THE EMOTIONAL TRAUMA AND HORROR I WAS LIVING, TO STOP THE FINANCIAL BLEED THAT WAS HURTING MY FAMILY BY TAKING FUNDS FROM MY YOUNG DAUGHTERS' MEDICAL BILLS TO PAY FOR LEGAL FEES.

I STILL CRY, I STILL SUFFER FROM NIGHTMARES, I'M STILL AFRAID TO BE HOME ALONE.

ON 12, 31, I SOLD THE MERCEDES I WAS AFRAID TO DRIVE, BURNED THE CLOTHES THAT I WORE FROM THAT NIGHT,

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THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK FROM THE MOMENT HE TURNED ON HIS LIGHTS, TO THE MOMENT I HAD GUNS POINTED TO ME, IT WAS TERRIFYING.

I SPENT $10,000 TO DEFEND MYSELF AND TAKE FUNDS FROM MY DAUGHTER.

I'M GOING TO STOP AND EACH TIME I'LL COME BACK I SPEND TWO MINUTES, 12 SECONDS AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE END OF THIS TIME TO TELL YOU THAT MY DAUGHTER WHO SUFFERED FROM A MASSIVE HEMORRHAGE BRAIN BLEED, IS 11 MONTHS LATER, SHE HAD HER BIRTHDAY SHE IS 80% RECOVERED, AND I AM INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR HER RECOVERY.

SHE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET BETTER EVERY DAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS THE FINAL COMMENT.

>> MOVING ON TO MINUTES.

[MINUTES]

I DON'T SEE ANY CORRECTIONS ON THE DIAS.

ARE THERE ANY? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS IS ITEMS 2-5 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR STAGE.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

>> NO, MAYOR.

>> ANY MEMBER ON THE DIAS WISH TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?

>> FOUR, PLEASE.

>> WHICH ONE?

>> POLL NUMBER 4, PLEASE.

>> FOUR. TAKE A MOTION, I GUESS WITH THE AMENDED CONSENT AGENDA OF ITEMS 2,3, AND 5.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION IS SECOND.

>> ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER 4,

[4. Approval of Police Department Ford F150 outfitting of previously authorized purchase.]

>> I SAW THAT THERE'S ALSO AN ITEM 5 AND IT'S THE SAME CONCERN FOR BOTH ITEMS. PART OF IT IS A COMMUNICATION PACKAGE.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INTER AGENCIES WILL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE.

SO I GUESS THIS WOULD BE THE STAFF.

THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM THAT'S BEING PURCHASED WILL THAT COORDINATE BETWEEN FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?

>> GOOD EVENING. MY APOLOGIES. I STEPPED OUTSIDE WITH ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WAS SPEAKING.

YOUR QUESTION WAS REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 4 ON THE EQUIPPING OF THE F150 POLICE CRUISERS?

>> SPECIFICALLY THE COMMUNICATION PACKAGE WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS?

>> YES, IT IS.

>> THAT WAS IT.

>> WE'RE ABLE TO LINK OUR RADIO SYSTEM TO BASICALLY ANYBODY.

PALMACH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PALM GARST, QUEST TO NORTH PALM, BOCA BOY AND WE'RE ABLE TO LINK THEM TOGETHER THROUGH THE NORTH COMP COMMUNICATION CENTER.

ALSO PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND A COUPLE OF THEIR VEHICLES UP HERE HAVE OUR RADIOS IN THEM ALSO, SO THAT WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT MECHANISMS TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE.

>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

>> MAKE A MOTION.

>> MOTION APPROVE AS IS.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 APPROVAL OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OUTFITTING OF VEHICLES.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, RESOLUTION 6-24.

[6. Resolution 06-24, Approval of Work Order Number 47 to EPW 2016-12D to Wantman Group, Inc. in an amount not to exceed $253,477.31 for the Design and Construction Criteria Package and Site Approval for the Fire Station and Park Improvements at Piatt Place.]

>> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, THOMAS NUNEZ, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.

TONIGHT I'LL BE GIVING YOU A BRIEF SYNOPSIS AND OVERVIEW OF WORK ORDER 47, WHICH IS BASICALLY A PROPOSAL FOR SITE APPROVAL AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE FOR PIOT PLACE, FIRE STATION, AND PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

THE PROPOSED WORK ORDER IN ITSELF IS JUST TO ALLOW THE PROJECT SITE TO BE DEVELOPED,

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THE SITE APPROVAL SCOPE ITSELF IS REQUIRED AS A PART OF TOWN CODE, JUST THE SAME AS ANY OTHER DEVELOPER WOULD DEVELOP A SITE IN TOWN.

WE ALSO HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND SIDE APPROVAL PROCESS SO WE HAVE TO RUN THE SAME GAUNTLET AS ANY OTHER DEVELOPERS THEY HAVE TO THROUGH THE WHOLE SITE APPROVAL PROCESS.

ESSENTIALLY, THE PROPOSED WORK ORDER ITSELF PROVIDES FOR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PLANNING REPRESENTATION AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL AND HISTORICAL SITE REVIEW AS WELL AS TRAFFIC STATEMENT COMPOSURE THROUGH THE SITE APPROVAL PROCESSES.

THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE SCOPE IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO BASICALLY ALLOW THE TOWN TO PERFORM THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND GET READY FOR ADVERTISING THE PROJECT OUT TO SECURE DESIGN BUILDER FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT A DESIGN BUILD IS PROPOSED AS A PART OF THE ACQUISITION PROCESS BASICALLY, THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY WORK THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

THERE'S A DESIGN BID BUILD, THERE'S A CM AT RISK BUT DESIGN BUILD GIVES US THE ABILITY TO COME UP WITH A PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND THEN A DESIGN BUILDER PICKS IT UP THE REST OF THE WAY, FINISHES THE DESIGN, AND THEN MOVES FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTING THE PROJECT.

IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO WORK ON SOME OF THE LEAD LONG LEAD ITEMS AS WELL UP FRONT TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES, THE TOWN IS ABLE TO USE A CONTINUING SERVICES CONSULTANT FOR THE PRELIMINARY PORTION.

HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO 100% MILESTONE MARK THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE LIMIT OF $4 MILLION REALLY, FOR AN OVERALL ONE PROJECT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO OVER THAT COST.

THEREFORE, THE DESIGN ITSELF IS GOING TO TAKE A TWO STEP PROCESS.

WE'LL WORK ON A PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE ITSELF, GIVE SOME OUTLINES ON HOW WE WANT THE FACILITY TO BE CONSTRUCTED, WORKING WITH STAFF FROM VARIOUS PARTS, WHETHER IT'S PARKS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE FIRE CHIEF VERY CLOSELY AND THEN IT GIVES US THE ABILITY, AFTER WE HAVE ADVERTISED THE PROJECT, TO COME UP WITH BASICALLY WORK ON GETTING OUR DESIGN BUILDER IN AND THEN THE DESIGN BUILDER, ONCE WE HAVE AWARDED TO THEM, THEY CAN FINISH THE OVERALL DESIGN WHICH WE'VE PREPARED.

THE PROPOSED WORK FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE WOULD PROVIDE A PRELIMINARY SITE CIVIL, ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL, ARCHITECTURAL TRAFFIC, AS WELL AS STRUCTURAL DESIGN TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED FIRE STATION IMPROVEMENTS.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, AS ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD REQUESTED, I MENTIONED THAT ESSENTIALLY WGI, WHICH IS WALTMAN GROUP INC, THEY WILL BE PERFORMING THE PRELIMINARY PORTION OF IT.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE FIRM WHICH IS ENGAGING IN THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BID ON THE DESIGN BUILD PORTION OF THE PROJECT ITSELF SO THEY MAYBE ABLE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE WITH RFI'S REVIEW OF VARIOUS ITEMS FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON PART OF THE DESIGN BUILD TEAM BECAUSE OF THAT REASON AND THAT IS UNDER THE FLORIDA STATUTES.

PIATT PLACE, THIS IS THE CURRENT CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT SHOWS BASICALLY OVERFLOW BOAT PARKING AS WELL AS VARIOUS PARKING THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

THERE'S ALSO SHADE STRUCTURES WHICH ARE LOCATED ON THE SITE, LIKELY THROUGH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE.

INSIDE APPROVAL PROCESS, WE WOULD BE COMING UP WITH OTHER SITE FURNITURE, WHETHER IT'S BENCHES, BIKE RACKS, AND TRASH RECEPTACLES, OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED AND BASICALLY LAID OUT FOR PRELIMINARY LAYOUT FOR SCOPE.

AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE, YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THE FIRE STATION IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.

THERE'S ALSO A KAYAK LAUNCH, WHICH IS ALSO LISTED ON THE SITE ITSELF.

THIS IS A LIST OF

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WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT DESIRED ELEMENTS OF THE FIRE STATION ITSELF AND OTHER PARK ELEMENTS.

HOWEVER, WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER FURTHER IN DEPTH DISCUSSION OF THE OVERALL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE DESIRED THEN AFTER THAT POINT WOULD BEGIN AS THE TOWN TO COMPOSE THE RFQ PACKAGE THAT ENABLES US TO START WORKING ON SELECTING A DESIGN BUILD FIRM AND SOLICIT WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE OVERALL PROJECT ITSELF AND THEN WGI WOULD WORK ON SUBMITTING THE SITE APPROVAL APPLICATION AND MOVING ON FROM THERE, ADVERTISE THE RFQ THAT WOULD BE DONE CONCURRENTLY ALONG WITH THE SIDE APPROVAL PROCESS BE WORKING AT THE SAME TIME.

IN BETWEEN THOSE STEPS 4 AND 5 THE TOWN WOULD RECEIVE RFQ RESPONSES FROM INTERESTED FIRMS AND THE SELECTION COMMITTEE AFTER THAT TIME WOULD REVIEW THE VARIOUS RFQ RESPONSES AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CREATE A SHORT LIST OF SELECTED FIRMS TO GO OVER AND MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP.

REALLY DURING THAT TIME, THE TOWN WOULD CONTINUE TO COMPOSE THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE WITH WGI PROVIDING INPUT WHILE THEY ACT AS OUR CONSULTANTS AND THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW TO COMPOSE THE RFP PACKAGE.

AFTER SITE APPROVAL HAS BEEN RECEIVED, THE TOWN WOULD RELEASE THE OVERALL RFP DOCUMENT AND BASICALLY, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE SHORT LIST OF DESIGN BUILD FIRMS TO REVIEW THE OVERALL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE.

GIVE US BASICALLY THEIR FINAL PLAN ON HOW THEY PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT AND AS WELL AS THEIR PRICES AND THEN THE TOWN WOULD ULTIMATELY, AFTER WE RECEIVE THEIR PROPOSALS, WE WOULD REVIEW AS A SELECTION COMMITTEE THE VARIOUS PROPOSALS THAT ARE RECEIVED AS WELL AS RANK THE DESIGN BUILD FIRMS. LAST STEP IN THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO AWARD THE PROJECT TO A DESIGN BUILD FIRM IN LATE SUMMER OF 2024, WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING AN IN SERVICE DATE IN SPRING OF 2026.

AND WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> AS I TURNED TO THE COUNSEL, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THOSE QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE PUBLIC AND ASK IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

SO STARTING TO MY LEFT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THOMAS, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST TO DEMOLISH THE CURRENT PARKING STRUCTURE THAT'S ON THAT?

>> SO THE CURRENT PARKING STRUCTURE, WHEN I GAVE A VERY ROUGH ESTIMATE, IT WAS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO DEMOLISH THE CURRENT PARKING STRUCTURE.

SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE PERFORMED THAT CALCULATION, BUT IT'S BEEN A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.

>> BECAUSE I KNOW I HAD REQUESTED THAT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS SITE IN THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY TO MAKE IT A PARK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD GOTTEN A FULL ANSWER ON HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING TO COST TO DEMOLISH THAT AND MAKE IT A USABLE SITE FOR WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING.

WITH THAT DEMOLISHING, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET?

>> THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT COST, THIS PROJECT THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY SPLIT.

AND THIS IS TYPICALLY HOW WE WOULD DO THIS DURING WHEN I WRITE AN OVERALL PROJECT.

IF I KNOW THAT IT'S COMING FROM MULTIPLE PIECES OR MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS, WHAT I DO IS I LIST THE REQUIREMENT IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL CONDITIONS OF THE DOCUMENTS.

THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT INTO THE DETAILS, BUT BASICALLY I WRITE OUT HOW I WANT THE CONTRACTOR TO SEPARATE ALL THEIR COSTS AND I TRY TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE BIGGEST ITEMS. ESSENTIALLY, AS A PART OF THAT, I LIST THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT WAY VERY INDIVIDUALLY SO I CAN BREAK OUT, THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT.

A PORTION OF THAT, YES, WOULD NEED TO COME OUT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET BECAUSE IT DOES FALL WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT.

HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE OVERALL DESIGN AREA, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH WHAT PORTION IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT PORTION IS GOING TO COME OUT FOR THE ACTUAL PARK ITSELF.

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>> HOW MUCH OF THE MANGROVES WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED TO BRING THIS TO DO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE? AT THIS CURRENT TIME, WE DON'T HAVE A SET NUMBER.

THE WETLAND DELINEATION AND THE VARIOUS WETLAND IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWED AS A PART OF THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE.

>> SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT REGARDLESS, REALLY, OF WHAT WE DO ON THAT SITE.

A WETLAND DELINEATION IS A PART OF THE SITE REVIEW THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE OVERALL WORK ORDER PROCESS.

>> COULD DEP COME BACK AND DENY IT?

>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WOULD DENY, BUT IF IT WERE SEVERE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY BUT NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> [BACKGROUND].

>> MY ONLY QUESTION WAS POSED EARLIER TODAY AND ANSWERED.

THE QUESTION WAS THE WATMAN GROUP AND WHETHER THEY COULD, AFTER DOING THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN FOR THIS FIRST PORTION, THEN BID ON THE PROJECT AFTER.

SO IT WAS ANSWERED THAT THEY COULD NOT. THANK YOU.

>> SORRY, JUST SOME QUICK MATH.

SO I SAID IT WAS A LITTLE OVER ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

IT'S ABOUT 60,000 SQUARE FEET THAT STRUCTURE.

IF I ASSUME $30 PER SQUARE FOOT, YOU GOT ROUGHLY 1.8, SO 1.8 MILLION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> VICE MAYOR.

>> MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED. THANK YOU.

>> COUNSELOR FORE.

>> IT SEEMED LIKE A HUGE AMOUNT FOR DEMOLITION AND I GUESS THAT WAS TO YOUR POINT, COUNSELOR MAY, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A 60,000 SQUARE FOOT PARKING GARAGE AS WELL OR STRUCTURE.

>> IT IS IT DOES HAVE TWO LEVELS TO IT.

>> THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED NO MATTER WHAT WAS BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT.

>> EVEN IF WE WERE TO TURN IT INTO A PARK, THEY'D HAVE TO REMOVE THAT.

>> YES. YOURSELF AS WELL AS THE MAYOR, STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS.

I DON'T KNOW MANY THAT WOULD WANT TO REINFORCE THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE.

>> I WOULDN'T SIGN AND SEAL ANY DRAWINGS TO REUSE THAT, THAT'S FOR SURE.

>> I'D IMAGINE NOT.

>> THE PROPERTY I THINK WAS TAKEN IN THE RECEIVERSHIP.

WE INHERITED THAT PROPERTY, I BELIEVE.

SO PART OF THE COST OF THAT, I GUESS, WOULD HAVE BEEN OFFSET BY ANY PENALTIES OR ANYTHING WE WOULD HAVE IMPOSED ON THE ORIGINAL OWNER.

WE WAIVED ALL THAT AND JUST TOOK THE PIECE OF PROPERTY. IS THAT PRETTY MUCH RIGHT?

>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER THAT POTENTIALLY TO ANY OTHER STAFF THAT MIGHT BE PRESENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS GENERALLY TRUE.

I'VE KNOWN WATMAN FOR A LONG TIME.

NEVER ENGAGED OR BEEN ENGAGED BY THEM, BUT THEY'RE A HIGHLY COMPETENT AND QUALIFIED FIRM.

I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BID ON THE DESIGN BUILD PART.

DID YOU CONSIDER SAVING THEM FOR THE DESIGN BUILD PART AND GETTING SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THE PRELIMINARY WORK?

>> WELL, TO DO THE PRELIMINARY PORTION ITSELF, I HAVE FOUR CONSULTANTS THAT I COULD ULTIMATELY CHOOSE FROM THAT I TYPICALLY USE AS A PART OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS CONTINUING SERVICES CONTRACT.

WATMAN GROUP, THEY HAPPEN TO BE A FIRM THAT I'VE WORKED WITH REGULARLY.

THEY ARE A QUALIFIED FIRM THAT HAPPEN TO BE WORKING ON OTHER OTHER PROJECT ITSELF.

SO I FELT THAT THEY WERE THE BEST OPTION FOR THIS PROCESS.

>> THEY'RE VERY QUALIFIED.

THEY'RE EMINENTLY QUALIFIED FOR THAT PROJECT.

I'M GUESSING WE'VE HAD SURVEYS DONE ON THE PROPERTY.

>> WE'RE BEGINNING THE SURVEY PROCESS, YES.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH WETLAND PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED? YOU SAID YOU HADN'T DELINEATED IT YET, BUT ARE WE DEFINITELY INTRUDING ON WETLANDS?

>> NOT AT THIS TIME. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AREA WHICH WOULD BE IMPACTED IF ANY.

MOST OF THE AREA THAT WE'RE BUILDING ON IS GOING TO BE THE PARKING STRUCTURE PORTION, BUT ULTIMATELY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO FALL BACK TO THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CRITERIA PACKAGE AND THE WETLAND DELINEATION TO GIVE THAT OVERALL.

I'M VERY INTERESTED AND CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA MANGROVES, BUT THERE IS A SEPARATE USE WITH THE KAYAK LAUNCH, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE A PATH IS GOING TO BE CUT THROUGH THE MANGROVES FROM THAT.

THAT I VIEW AS DIFFERENTLY THAN I WOULD A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD DESTROY THE WETLANDS.

SO I'M VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH WITH THAT.

TRY TO MINIMIZE ANY WETLAND DAMAGE AT ALL.

>> OF COURSE. WETLAND IMPACTS ARE ALWAYS SOMETHING WE TRY TO MINIMIZE.

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WE HAD TO DEAL WITH WETLAND IMPACTS ON THAT AS WELL, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS AND WE ALWAYS TRY TO MINIMIZE IT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, LIKE ANY OTHERS THAT WE IMPACTED WE HAVE TO PAY JUST THE SAME AS ANY OTHER DEVELOPER.

>> CAN'T REPLACE IT. ONCE IT'S GONE, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE GONE.

ONE FINAL LINE OF QUESTIONING WAS IN REGARDS TO GIVING ANY WEIGHT IN THE RFQS TO LOCAL FIRMS IS A MATTER IF A FIRMS IN JUPITER VERSUS OHIO.

I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THE STATE STATUTE, BUT I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE A RESTRICTION ON JUST HOLDING IT SPECIFICALLY TO ONLY LOCAL FIRMS, BUT I'LL GO BACK.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I WOULDN'T SAY YOU PROBABLY CAN'T HOLD IT TO LOCAL FIRMS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RFQS WEIGHED SLIGHTLY HEAVIER IF IT'S A JUPITER FIRM, SLIGHTLY HEAVIER IF IT'S PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRM.

I'D JUST LIKE TO KEEP IT LOCAL AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THAT WAY THE COMPANY THAT'S GETTING OUR MONEY IS GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY IN THE TOWN AND THE EMPLOYEES WOULD, SO IT STILL STAYS, SOME OF IT STAYS IN THE TOWN.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND SOME TYPE OF WEIGHTING OF THE RFQS FOR LOCALS.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> [OVERLAPPING] CLEARLY, YOU CAN'T EXCLUDE OUTSIDERS, AND THE VERY BEST FIRM MIGHT BE A FIRM FROM OHIO THAT COMES THROUGH.

SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME WEIGHTING GIVEN TO THE LOCALS IF YOU COULD.

I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK. I WANTED TO SAY THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A RESTRICTION ON LOCAL PREFERENCE, BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE READ THAT STATUTE.

>> THANK YOU. THANKS.

>> WITH THAT, DID WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MAYOR, WE HAVE THREE.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH WAYNE POSNER, FOLLOWED BY KAREN BENSON.

>> COUNCIL WAYNE POSNER, 315 CORINA, JUPITER.

WELL, LET ME START OUT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU TO THE TOWN MANAGER FOR GETTING A GREAT FIRE CHIEF.

THEY SAID WE COULDN'T DO IT, WE DID IT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THE EQUIPMENT AT THE RIGHT PRICE.

SAID WE COULDN'T DO IT, WE DID IT.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD AND BUILD A BUILDING.

BUT I'M GOING TO SAY TWO MORE THINGS.

WE HAD 10 MONTHS OF NEGOTIATION.

WE KEEP ON HEARING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THERE WAS PLENTY OF TRANSPARENCY, FOR 10 MONTHS, WE WERE NEGOTIATING WITH THE COUNTY.

THE PACK I LOOKED UP RECENTLY WAS FUNDED BY THE UNION, AND IT HAD $214,000 TO SPEND ON WHATEVER LEGAL CASE THAT'S GOING ON NOW.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL PART OF IT, BUT THERE WAS ONE CITIZEN, ONE RESIDENT THAT PUT MONEY INTO THAT PACK, AND IT WAS 35 OR 40 BUCKS.

WHEN YOU READ, IT'S THE RESIDENTS OF JUPITER, IT'S NOT THE RESIDENTS OF JUPITER, IT'S A PACK.

LET ME FLOAT OUT THIS NOVEL IDEA, AND THIS MIGHT WORK.

IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS FOR A PILOT PLACE USED TO BE CALLED THE DUNGEON.

MY KIDS WENT THERE.

I THINK CAM WENT THERE, BRETT WENT THERE.

THEY ALL PARTIED THERE.

IT WAS A LOT OF FUN AT ONE TIME.

A MILLION DOLLARS IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE TO TAKE THAT PART OF THE BUILDING OUT TO JUST TO BUILD THE BUILDING.

I KNOW A DEVELOPER THAT'S WILLING TO TRADE HIS PROPERTY I SPOKE TO HIM TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND HE GAVE ME AUTHORITY JUST TO SAY HE'S WILLING TO NEGOTIATE BEFORE YOU MAKE AN OKAY ON THIS AND YOU GO FORWARD WITH THE ARCHITECT HERE.

THE PROPERTY IS INDEXES PROPERTY, IT'S ON A1A, IT'S A PERFECT SIZE FOR A FIRE COMPANY.

IT HAS NO CONSTRUCTION TO BE RIPPED OUT OF IT.

HE'D BE WILLING TO TRADE IT FOR PIE.

MAYBE THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED.

IT MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO GET MONEY OUT OF THE DEVELOPER FOR PIE PLACE TO PAY FOR THE BUILDING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

I THINK IT'S WORTH POSTPONING THIS FOR TWO WEEKS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING SO YOU CAN INVESTIGATE THAT PART.

IT'S CONVENIENTLY LOCATED.

YOU CAN GO RIGHT OVER A1A BRIDGE AND GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE US1 BRIDGE.

US1 BRIDGE WILL BE FINISHED BY THEN,2026 ANYWAY.

SO IT'S REALLY A GOOD LOCATION.

IT'S A GREAT LOCATION, PLACE HAS A LOT OF VALUE, IT'LL CREATE TAX DOLLARS FOR US, IT'LL GIVE US INCOME.

IT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION.

IF IT'S NEGOTIATED PROPERLY, I CAN'T GUARANTEE WHAT IT WOULD TURN OUT TO BE, BUT IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO.

THE LAST QUESTION IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CHOOSE THE COMMITTEE TO CHOOSE THE APPLICANTS FOR DESIGN BUILD, BUT IF THERE'S ANY OUTSIDE CITIZENS, I'D BE INTERESTED TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

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>> KAREN BENSON. MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.

ONE OF THEM WAS ABOUT THE COST OF THE DEMOLITION FOR THE "DUNGEON" THERE, ABOUT THAT BEING INCREASED COST THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF UNKNOWN COST WHEN HE SAID IT'S 1.8 MILLION, THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF MONEY.

THE OTHER ONE IS RELATIVE TO WHAT HE JUST SAID THAT IS THERE GOING TO BE A COMMITTEE OR A CITIZEN COMMITTEE INPUT REGARDING THE BUILDING OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS? THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THEIR INPUT ON IT.

I WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, TOO.

THE OTHER ONE WAS WHY THERE WASN'T AN OPEN BID AND WHY IT JUST WENT TO, WAS IT WGI? WHY DID IT JUST GO TO THEM WITHOUT AN OPEN BID? THAT'S BEEN MY QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES, IS ABOUT THE CONSULTING FIRM WASN'T AN OPEN BID.

GOES BACK TO THE TRANSPARENCY IS THAT THESE THINGS ARE DONE, BUT NOTHING'S EVER DISCUSSED, EVEN SO FAR AS IF THEY MAKE THAT DECISION, IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP TO A ROUND TABLE UP HERE IN THE TOWN COUNCIL JUST SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW SO THAT THERE'S TRANSPARENCY OF WHO'S BEING BID AND THAT IT'S NOT BEING A PARTIAL BID.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WE HAVE BRETT LEONE, FOLLOWED BY KRISTEN HENRY.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, LEONE, 132, BARBADOS DRIVE.

WAYNE DROPPED A BOMBSHELL, THREW ME OFF A LITTLE BIT THERE WITH HIS SUGGESTION, NEED TO MULL IT OVER BUT SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE A PRETTY GOOD ONE BECAUSE MY QUESTIONS COME PIT PLACE.

YOU HAVE A PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE STATION RIGHT ACROSS CATTY CORNER, SO TO SPEAK, FROM THERE.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO PREEMPTIVE EMERGENCY SIGNALS WITHIN 100 YARDS FROM EACH OTHER.

NOT SURE WHAT THE ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS OR TRAFFIC REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR SEPARATION ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'M SURE IT'S BEEN LOOKED INTO.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A VERY COMPETENT STAFF.

AS WAYNE MENTIONED, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE TOWN OWNS THAT COULD BE SOLD TO DEVELOPER.

THAT DEVELOPER COULD PAY THAT $1.8 MILLION TO TAKE DOWN THAT DUNGEON.

ONE THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED IS WHAT'S THE COST TO FILL IN THAT HOLE? THAT PARKING GARAGE IS UNDERGROUND.

HOW MUCH FILL IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PUT IN THERE? THE PILINGS, SO ON AND SO FORTH TO BUILD THAT BACK UP, TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A PARKING GARAGE.

COUNCILOR, I'M SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AS AN ENGINEER.

>> SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND CUBIC FEET.

>> THAT'S A LOT.

>> IF I DID THE RIGHT.

>> I IMPLORE YOU ALL TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES, THE COST OF IMPACT TO WETLANDS.

MR. HANNAN HAS MENTIONED.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IMPACT IS, BUT I KNOW THE TOWN IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPERS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY INPUT FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AS FAR AS ANY SHORELINE STABILIZATION? BECAUSE A LOT OF WETLANDS, THE MANGROVES RIGHT THERE ONTO THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER, FIRE TRUCKS, AMBULANCES, THAT'S NOT YOUR EVERYDAY VEHICLE GOING IN THERE.

COUNCILOR, I KNOW YOU KNOW THE GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT OF THOSE, AND THAT'S NOT JUST PULLING IN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF STABILIZATION THERE.

ANOTHER THING I'M SURE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S STAGING GROUND FOR FDOT TO BUILD THE BRIDGE SO BY THE TIME THEY GET OUT OF THERE, IS THAT GOING TO LEAD ENOUGH TIME TO BUILD A STATION FOR IT TO BE OPEN AT THE TARGET DATE? THAT'S MY QUESTIONS THERE.

WITH MY 40 SECONDS, I'M JUST GOING TO REBUT TO YOU RESPECTFULLY, MR. MAYOR.

THE MEETING MINUTES JUST RECENTLY CHANGED.

I WOULD RESPECT THE ARGUMENT IF THEY CHANGED YEARS AGO, BUT FOR THE FACT OF THEM JUST CHANGING RECENTLY, I FIND THAT QUITE SUSPICIOUS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT.

I HAVE TO THANK YOU GUYS BECAUSE I WAS NEVER A PUBLIC SPEAKER.

IT TERRIFIED ME BEFORE HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR MAKING ME A BETTER PUBLIC SPEAKER.

I'M VERY UNDER-PREPARED BUT AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SPACE.

I THINK IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL.

IT DISPLAYS YOU GUYS VERY NICELY UP HERE, WE CAN SEE YOU PRETTY WELL.

I DID WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS.

I HAD PREPARED SOMETHING WHEN IT CAME TO INDIAN CREEK AND PIATT PLACE.

I DID WATCH A CRA MEETING IN COUNCIL 4 AND VICE MAYOR DELANEY,

[01:00:05]

I THINK COUNCILOR SUNROOM, YOU'RE ALSO JUST TALKING ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE LEFT.

I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD SAID WAS ONCE THAT LAND IS GONE, IT'S GONE.

TO PUT ANOTHER FIREHOUSE WHICH I THINK IS REDUNDANT ANYWAY I'M STILL OPPOSED TO CREATING THE DEPARTMENT, BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PLACE DIESEL TRUCKS ON AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE SPACE SO IF YOU HAVE ANY TYPES OF LEAKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT GOES INTO OUR OCEANS, OUR INTERCOASTAL INTO THE GROUNDS.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME COMMENT ABOUT FILLING THAT SPACE.

WHEN YOU HAVE AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE THAT'S A LOT TO FILL THERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE BUILT SOUND ENOUGH? I THINK TOO JUST TALKING ABOUT EVEN LIKE THE INDIAN CREEK, IF THAT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA WHEN YOU PUT THE FIRE STATION SO CLOSELY TO KIDS AND PEOPLE IN AND OUT WITH THEIR KAYAKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND CAUTIOUS ABOUT THEY'RE AN EMERGENCY, THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT GETTING TO THE PLACE VERY QUICKLY AND SO FOR THEM HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS AROUND THEM I THINK THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING ESSENTIALLY.

I THINK IT PUTS OTHER PEOPLE IN DANGER, I THINK IT PUTS THE PEOPLE WHO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS RESPONDING TO IN DANGER.

IT JUST CREATES THOSE ISSUES.

ON MR. POSNER'S THOUGHT ON A1A, OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HEAT MAP, YOU CAN'T JUST PUT A FIRE DEPARTMENT ANYWHERE.

THAT THOUGHT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT PLACE EITHER, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING.

I THOUGHT WHEN I LOOKED UP, IT SAID THAT YOU GUYS MAYBE HAD BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ALL THOSE YEARS AGO AFTER THE SECOND OWNER, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, I FEEL IT IS REDUNDANT BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT AREA WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THAT TYPE OF LAND LEFT.

WHY TAKE AWAY THE BEAUTY TO PUT ANOTHER STRUCTURE, TO PUT MORE TRUCKS AND JUST THINGS THAT ARE POLLUTING OUR ENVIRONMENT? I THINK WE'RE REALLY GETTING RID OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET BACK. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS THE FINAL.

>> I'LL START. FIRST OF ALL, I DO SUPPORT WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED BEFORE US IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY AND I'LL LOOK INTO THE MEETING MINUTES.

BUT I WAS HONESTLY TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN EXPLANATION THAT I, MYSELF WAS CONFUSED.

SOMETIMES YOU GO ON AND THERE'S AN ABBREVIATED VERSION, SO I HAVEN'T RECOGNIZED IT'S CHANGED BUT WE'LL TAKE THE FEEDBACK AND LOOK AT IT.

AGAIN IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE WITH THIS ITEM.

I'LL SOMEWHAT CONSIDER SOME OF THE STUDY COSTS THAT WE'VE ASKED TO HAPPEN IS WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN VERY CLEARLY AND WE HAD PRIORITIZED TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF PIT PLACE.

THAT'S SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM ANY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THIS STUDY DOES ENABLE US TO HAVE THOSE COSTS AND UNDERSTAND THOSE IMPACTS.

INFACT, WE ARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT WETLAND IMPACTS AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S AN ITEM AND THAT'S WHERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AGAIN, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT IN THE FUNDING, BUT AS WE GO ON, IT MAY BE THE CASE THAT THE CRA, WHICH WE'RE MEMBERS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE HEARING WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT.

THE CRA COMMISSION MAY HAVE SOME ROLE IN WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT PROPERTY.

NOW, THE TOWN OWNS THE PROPERTY, NOT THE CRA.

THE CRA CAN INFLUENCE WHAT HAPPENS.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT THE CRA TONIGHT, WE'RE THE COUNCIL, BUT I JUST WANT TO LAY THESE OUT.

PERSONALLY, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE RIGHT SOLUTION IS FOR US TO ACQUIRE THE BUS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> SOMETHING WENT WRONG. PLEASE TRY AGAIN.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHY MY PHONE DOES THAT.

[LAUGHTER] I THINK THE RIGHT THING TO DO WAS TO ACQUIRE THAT STATION.

WE'RE STILL HOPING THAT HAPPENS.

THERE'S 3,000 CALLS A DAY SERVED BY THE BURT RENTAL STATION, 2,500 GOING TO TOWN.

IT SURE SEEMS LOGICAL TO ME THAT WE WOULD ACQUIRE THAT STATION AND THEN WE WOULD SERVE THE 500 THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF JUPITER WHICH IS THE WAY FIRE RESCUES DEPARTMENTS INTERGOVERNMENTALLY COOPERATE.

SEEMS TO ME THEN THE COUNTY COULD USE THAT MONEY TO BUILD THE STATION SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THEY NEED IT.

[01:05:01]

AS A TAXPAYER, I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR ONE CALL A DAY, BUT THAT MAY BE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THERE'S STILL SOME TIME TO REVISIT ON THAT.

THIS PROPERTY PI PLACE AGAIN, WE HAVE IT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

IF WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT WOULD MAKE A PHENOMENAL EXTENSION TO THE COUNTY PARK SYSTEM.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. REALLY WE'RE GATHERING COSTS.

A LOT COULD HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THIS COMES BACK.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD INTERPRET LIKE WE'RE MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT.

WE'RE MOVING WITH THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP.

SIMPLE TERMS THE FIRE RESCUE STATION WOULD CONSUME ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PROPERTY, UP TWO THIRDS IS A PARK.

QUITE FRANKLY, AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WONDERING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THE APPROPRIATE USE THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS IS A PARK.

WHEN WE GET INTO, SURE, WE KNOW THAT A KAYAK LAUNCH MAY GET INTO SOME ISSUES, BUT THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE VETTED THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT.

THAT'S WHY I DO SUPPORT THIS CONTINUING TO THE NEXT PHASE AND I'VE ALREADY SCHEDULED, I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY.

A WIN-WIN AGAIN, I THINK SHOULD BE THAT, LOOK, THERE'S A COUPLE PIECES OF PROPERTY HERE AND MAYBE THE LOGICAL THING IS TO TRADE AND WE PROVIDE FUNDS.

BUT IF NOT, HAVING TO BUILD ANOTHER STATION ACROSS THE STREET, IT'S BECAUSE THE COUNTY WASN'T INTERESTED IN AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME WITH GIVING UP THE STATION THEY HAVE.

MAYBE THINGS WILL CHANGE.

BUT AGAIN, I LOOK AT THIS, AS ALL THESE THINGS THINK BACK, I TALKED TO MY COLLEAGUES WHEN YOU WERE ACTING AS A CRA COMMISSIONER, AND WE PUT THIS AS A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM, WE WANTED THESE THINGS INVESTIGATED.

THAT'S A LARGE PART OF WHAT IT IS HERE.

I'M TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT, SO YOU REALIZE WE DON'T KNOW ABSOLUTELY.

WE TAKE STEPS ADDRESSING WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED FOR US AND THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED FOR US.

QUITE FRANKLY, WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED IN PIE PLACE.

I THINK SOME OF US BELIEVE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT A MULTI-STORY ON THAT PROPERTY SO AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME THE SITE PLAN HAPPENS TO INCLUDE A PARK, WHICH I PERSONALLY BELIEVE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME IS A GOOD USE ON THE BULK OF THAT PROPERTY.

BUT AGAIN, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, WE'RE REALLY STUDYING A NUMBER OF THINGS HERE, A NUMBER OF WHICH REALLY RELATES TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM IN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, WHICH WE COULD DECIDE WE WANT TO DEVELOP THAT PARK AS A CRA ITEM.

WITH THAT, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED BECAUSE THEY ANSWERED ANY QUESTION I HAD.

BUT I WANTED TO JUST FRAME UNDER WHAT BASIS DO I SUPPORT GOING FORTH.

IT'S THE LOGICAL NEXT STEP.

WE'VE BEEN ASKING THESE THINGS FOR A WHILE AND YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE AT SOME POINT IN TIME WITH SOME PRELIMINARY STUDY IN ENGINEERING AND WHATEVER TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE WE NEED, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DECIDE PERHAPS ON IF A TRADE WAS TO EMERGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU STILL NEED TO DO THIS TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.

ANYWAY, WITH THAT, I'LL START IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS COUNSEL, MAY?

>> I UNDERSTAND THE LOGICAL NEXT STEP AND I GET IT'S GOT TO MOVE FORWARD IN SOME WAY, BUT IT'S JUST CONCERNING TO ME THE AMOUNT OF MITIGATION IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPABLE WHEN I HAD ASKED FOR IT AND UNDER THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY TO MAKE IT A PARK, I WAS MET WITH PUSHBACK AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SPENT TO DEMOLISH THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

I HAD UNDERSTOOD IT THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE CRA FUNDING FOR THIS THAT WE HAVE REALLY SET ASIDE.

IT WAS MY STRATEGIC PRIORITY TO MAKE THIS A PARK AND I APPRECIATE THE PARK PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD DO THERE TO REALLY GIVE BACK TO THE PUBLIC.

IT'S JUST DISHEARTENING FOR ME TO SEE THIS PROPERTY TAKEN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE OTHER PARCELS OF LAND THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE THE AMOUNT OF MITIGATION, POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THIS.

RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS JUST BASED ON THOSE FACTS ALONE.

>> COUNSEL CENTRINE.

[01:10:02]

>> I AGREE. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROCESS BECAUSE THIS IS VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS.

IT'S THE IDEA OF CREATING A PRELIMINARY DESIGN TO WORK WITH TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY, WHAT MITIGATION MAY BE NEEDED, IF ANY, WHAT THE COSTS ARE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE HAD THIS AS A STRATEGIC ITEM FOR A LONG TIME.

I DO REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT IT BEING A PARK.

THAT WAS COUNCILOR MAY'S IDEA FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS.

I'VE BEEN RECEPTIVE TO IT.

THE WAY I SEE IT IS NOT THAT THERE'S PUSHBACK ON IT, BUT JUST WANTING TO MAINTAIN OPTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THIS IS AN OPTION, IT IS EARLY DAYS, THERE'S STILL DISCUSSIONS GOING ON, STILL PLANS BEING HOW WE JUST HIRED A NEW FIRE CHIEF, GETTING HIS INPUT, TALKING TO HIM, BRINGING HIM FULLY ON BOARD IS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT SO WE ARE VERY EARLY IN THIS PROCESS.

IN TERMS OF MITIGATION AND FIRE STATIONS, AND WHAT THEY COULD DO ON THAT PROPERTY.

I THINK A BUILDING COULD DO MORE.

I THINK IT COULD CAUSE MORE HARM, POTENTIALLY SO I HAVE SUPPORTED THE IDEA OF A PARK THERE.

I DO THINK THAT THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

I DO THINK A FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD SERVE THE PUBLIC AND IS SMALL AND SCALE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE RELATIVE TO OTHER THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

I AGREE, IT'S IDEAL TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY IN PARTNERSHIP ON STATION 18 THINGS HAVE BEEN EMOTIONAL FOR SOME TIME WE ARE IN A NEW YEAR, LOOKING LOGICALLY AT THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT THEY ANSWER PER DAY A CALL A DAY IS NOT ENOUGH FOR SUCH AN EXPENSIVE STATION.

I HOPE THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL CONTINUE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING, I WELCOME.

I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THIS IS THE TIME FOR FEEDBACK, FOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THINGS YOU MAY WANT TO SEE, CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND SO IT'S EARLY DAYS, THIS IS THE START OF THE PROCESS AND I WELCOME MORE FEEDBACK.

>> VICE MAYOR.

>> WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY YEARS AGO.

I FORGET WHAT THE NUMBER WAS.

DO YOU MEAN WHAT THE NUMBER WAS WE PAID FOR THAT?

>> NO I DON'T.

>> SAME HERE. IT WAS SHORT MONEY BUT WITH THE STIPULATION, THERE WAS ALWAYS AN ISSUE WITH THAT, THE PARKING STRUCTURE SO SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN APPROACHED PROBABLY BY A DOZEN PEOPLE.

DEVELOPERS WANT TO PUT UP A HOTEL BUSINESS WITH THE GROUP RECENTLY THEY WANT TO RELOCATE THEIR WORLDWIDE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS SO THAT THEY LIKE THAT SPOT.

I WAS NEVER FOND OF ANY OF THOSE, BUT THE PROPERTY IS ALWAYS JUST KICKING AROUND WE JUST HELD ONTO IT, AND I'M GLAD WE DID, BECAUSE AT THIS MOMENT, WE HAVE A NEED AND IT'S A GOOD SPOT FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO BUT THEN AGAIN, THINGS COULD CHANGE DOWN THE ROAD AND LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STEP IN THE PROCESS OF GOING MOVING FORWARD SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT, BUT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FLUID SITUATION, SO THINGS COULD CHANGE THAT.

>> I'VE BEEN HERE 39 YEARS AND I'VE ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BECOME A PARK AND HOPED IT WOULD BECOME A PARK TO TRADE IT TO SOMEBODY NOW OR TO SELL IT THE COST WILL BE SO EXPENSIVE, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BUILD THAT PROPERTY OUT THE LARGEST FOOTPRINT.

IN FACT, I PREDICT THEY'LL COME TO US AND ASK FOR SOME TYPE OF VARIANCE I WANT TO PUT SOMETHING GIANT ON THAT PROPERTY TO GET THEIR MONEY BACK OUT OF IT.

I THINK IT'S EITHER TWO OPTIONS FOR US IN THE FUTURE WE EITHER SOMEHOW TURN IT INTO A PARK OR TURN IT INTO A PARK/FIRE STATION.

THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF STRUCTURE WE COULD EVER HOPE FOR BECAUSE IF THAT DOES GET SOLD, THAT WILL BE TURNED INTO AN AWFUL THING.

I'M ALSO VERY CONCERNED WITH DIESEL FUEL AND THE RUNOFF FROM VEHICLES THERE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD ABSOLUTELY WANT TO SEE ADDRESSED.

COUNSELOR MAY YOU PROBABLY HAVE EXPERIENCE OR AT LEAST LOOKING AT OTHER STRUCTURES, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME TYPE OF CONTAINMENT AROUND THE STATIONS TO MINIMIZE RUNOFF FROM THE PROPERTY EVEN IF IT'S NOT NEXT TO US, SOMETHING ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LIKE THIS IS.

IT WOULD HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY BE MITIGATED AS WE'VE ALL SEEN, FIRE TRUCKS GET WASHED OFF AND THEY NEED TO BE SO THAT RUNOFF WOULD NEED TO BE CONTAINED AS WELL.

THERE ARE THIS IS AGAIN, A VERY PRELIMINARY STEP WE'RE TAKING HERE.

[01:15:01]

YOU SAID ALTERNATE 1A BUT THAT RUNS FROM KEY WEST TO MAINE I THINK SO.

WE WOULD NEED AS IT CLOSE BY, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT ADDRESS BUT AGAIN, THAT DEVELOPER, IF HE WANTS TO TRADE FOR IT'S GOING TO WANT TO PUT SOMETHING BIG ON THAT PROPERTY SO IN THIS REGARD I SAY BABY STEPS, LET'S DO IT IN PHASES LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, AND GET THROUGH SOME PRELIMINARY STUDIES.

AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S WETLANDS AFFECTED, IF THERE ARE WETLANDS AFFECTED, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DELAY.

THE EPA DEP WILL GET INVOLVED WITH THAT JUST LIKE IF YOU'RE A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL BUILDING SOMETHING ON PROPERTY, IT CAN BE EASILY A ONE YEAR DELAY SO THAT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER.

THEY MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE THE LAYOUT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING BASED ON WETLANDS THERE BUT IT SEEMS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE SPACE THAT'S 60,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITIES BIG, IT'S A GIANT THING AND IT'S BEEN A BAD PROBLEM FOR THE TOWN.

THAT'S BEEN A SAND SPUR ON OUR FOOT FOR EVER SINCE IT WAS BUILT, IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM.

IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE I THINK AT THE EXPENSE OF GETTING IT DEMOLISHED SO ALL THESE THINGS WILL HAVE TO WEIGH IN OUR MIND AS WE GET INTO THIS FURTHER IN THE FUTURE.

BUT MY CONCERNS ARE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND THE USE OF IT FOR A PARK, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A GREAT PARK.

I'M WILLING TO TAKE THIS PRELIMINARY STEP, BUT PROBABLY NOT MUCH MORE BEYOND UNTIL WE HAVE SOME OF THESE OTHER QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

>> I THINK THIS STUDY WILL HELP ANSWER MANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS OR BEGIN TO ANSWER, WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

>> I'M COUNTING ON THAT.

>> WHAT I HEARD FROM DEVELOPERS, SAY IT'S TO ABSORB THE COSTS OF THE REMOVAL OF THE PARKING GARAGE WAS UP AND WE DON'T LIKE UP IN JUP SO YOU'RE RIGHT THOUGH.

>> THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE MANGROVES.

DRIVING DOWN [OVERLAPPING] IT WILL BE OBSCURED BY BUILDING.

>> CAN I HAVE THE MOTION IN A SECOND ON RESOLUTION 6-24?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 6-24.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> OPPOSED.

>> NO.

>> MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO ONE WITH COUNSELOR MAY DISSENTING.

MOVING ON TO A PRESENTATION WE HAVE ON THE ANNUAL TRAFFIC PRESENTATION,

[7. Annual Traffic Presentation]

>> A 90 GUY.

>> NO, I JUST CAN'T SEE THE DISTANCE.

>> DO WE NEED TO ADD BIGGER SCREENS THERE, THOMAS?

>> I'M NOT QUITE AT THE POINT WHERE I HAVE TO USE READERS YET, BUT I'M GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE I'M HAVING TO ADJUST.

>> [OVERLAPPING]

>> GOOD EVENING. AGAIN, THOMAS FERNANDEZ, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS, MYSELF, CJ, LAND, AS WELL AS THE CHIEF, WILL BE PROVIDING THE ANNUAL TRAFFIC UPDATE THIS EVENING.

SO WE'LL COVER VARIOUS PROJECTS AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS TRAFFIC STATISTICS.

SO ESSENTIALLY THIS PRESENTATION SATISFIES A PORTION OF THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE FOR MOBILITY, AND AS I MENTIONED, PROVIDES THE ANNUAL PRESENTATION FOR MITIGATION AND BASICALLY TRAFFIC STRATEGIES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, AND PROVIDES THE OVERALL STATUS OF PROJECTS AND ROADWAY TRAFFIC PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND ALSO ACROSS VARIOUS AGENCIES.

BEGINNING WITH ONE OF BASICALLY OUR BUSIEST ROADWAY, CARRIES SOME OF THE MOST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC EVEN IN PALM BEACH COUNTY ITSELF, INDIANTOWN ROAD.

I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND HIT HIGHLIGHTS OF THESE VARIOUS PROJECTS.

THESE ARE FDOT AS WELL AS TOWN AND OTHER PALM BEACH COUNTY INITIATIVE PROJECTS.

THE FIRST THREE ITEMS WHICH ARE LISTED HERE IN THIS TABLE, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ALL CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WHAT WE TYPICALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CIP PROGRAM, WE'VE CONTRIBUTED FUNDS TO THAT.

THEY'RE THE WESTERN INDIANTOWN ROAD CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT PROJECT BEGAN IN LATE 2023 AND IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED IN FALL OF 2025.

[01:20:06]

THAT PROJECT IS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE TOWN.

RIGHT OF WAY IS REQUIRED AS A PART OF IT, AND WE'LL BE LOOKING TO TRY TO COMPLETE 100% DESIGN SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT IN THE FUTURE.

FOR CENTRAL BOULEVARD, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN ADVOCATED MANY TIMES, IS ADDING A NORTHBOUND THROUGH LANE FROM CENTRAL BOULEVARD UP TO BASICALLY JUST SOUTH OF THE C18 CANAL.

THIS IS A PALM BEACH COUNTY PROJECT AND IT IS CURRENTLY LISTED IN THE COUNTY'S FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM AS BEING AFTER 2028.

HOWEVER, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PORTION, THAT IS SHOWN AS BEING IN FISCAL YEAR 2025 ON THEIR FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM.

INDIANTOWN ROAD WITH A WESTERN AUXILIARY LANE FROM CENTRAL TO JUPITER WEST PLAZA, AS WELL AS EXTENDING AN EASTBOUND LANE THROUGH TO CENTRAL BOULEVARD.

THAT IS A PRELIMINARY DESIGN PORTION FUNDED THROUGH THE TOWN.

THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE IS ULTIMATELY TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE IT'S AN FDOT ROAD, WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FOR THAT, AND THEN RIGHT OF WAY IS REQUIRED AS A PART OF THAT PROJECT ITSELF.

THEN THE INDIANTOWN ROAD AND CENTRAL BOULEVARD PD&E, WHICH IS A PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT STUDY, THAT, DESPITE BEING A VERY CONGESTED INTERSECTION, IT WAS ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED IN, I WANT TO SAY IT'S A 2018 OR 2019 STUDY PERFORMED BY THE FDOT FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

IT'S CURRENTLY PROGRAMMED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2029.

>> I JUST WANT TO PAUSE ON THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE COUNCIL FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR.

I LOOKED AT THE LAST THREE ITEMS AND THEY'RE SOMEWHAT PIECEMEAL.

AND WHEN YOU PIECEMEAL STUFF, WELL, EVERY PROJECT GOES THROUGH STOPS AND STARTS AND UNCERTAINTY OF BUDGET AS YOU GO FORTH, BUT THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE STAFF.

I'M THE TOWN'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE TPA, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY.

FDOT DID A STUDY A FEW YEARS AGO AND CONCLUDED THAT FROM CENTRAL BOULEVARD TO CENTER STREET WAS THE MOST CONGESTED ARTERIAL ROADWAY FDOT ROAD IN THE COUNTY, CORRECT?

>> I DEFINITELY KNOW THAT THE INTERSECTION ITSELF FOR SURE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THEY TALK ABOUT THAT SEGMENT, AND I HAVE THE STUDY THAT THEY DID, SO THEN THEY ACTUALLY DID A STUDY ON THE COST TO CURE IT.

AND THEY DID A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS THE WAY FDOT DOES THESE THINGS IF THERE'S BENEFIT TO DO THE WHOLE PROJECT.

THE PROJECT IS IMPROVEMENTS FROM CENTER STREET TO CENTRAL BOULEVARD, WHICH WOULD ENCOMPASS ALL OF THIS.

QUITE FRANKLY, CJ HAD PUSHED BEHIND THE SCENES FOR A LONG TIME TO GET A PD&E STUDY ON THAT INTERSECTION, WHICH WOULD HAVE US TAKE A MORE BROADER LOOK AT IF THERE'S SOMETHING BETTER THAN THE SIMPLE SOLUTION OF JUST ADDING A NEW THROUGH LANE AT THAT INTERSECTION.

JUST SO THAT MY COLLEAGUES KNOW AND STAFF IS CLEAR, I'M TRYING TO LEVERAGE LIKE HECK FDOT STUDY BECAUSE I'M SAYING YOU CONCLUDED THREE YEARS AGO THIS IS THE MOST CONGESTED ROADWAY IN THE COUNTY.

SHOULD BE MOVING UP ON THE SCALE.

I'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY TOO BECAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT IT AS THESE MAY BE BUNDLED TOGETHER.

SO I WAS DELIGHTED THAT FDOT STEPPED UP THEMSELVES ABOUT FUNDING BECAUSE THESE THINGS GET MESSY.

YOU HAVE A TOWN ROAD, A COUNTY ROAD, A STATE ROAD, BUT THEY GAVE US A STUDY THAT ENCOMPASSED IT ALL.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THIS IS THE CORRECT STATUS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THE LINK.

CERTAINLY THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE LOOKING BECAUSE IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING FDOT TO ABSORB IT, IT WOULD FALL OUT OF THE COUNTY'S BUDGET.

ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PRESSING ON THAT TOGETHER.

I JUST THOUGHT, LET ME SHARE THIS WITH THE PUBLIC AND MY COLLEAGUES HERE.

WHAT YOU REPRESENTED IS CORRECT.

IN FACT, THEY WERE TELLING US THEY DIDN'T HAVE MONEY FOR THE STUDY, AND THEY FOUND THE MONEY BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A PRIORITY PROJECT ESTABLISHED BY THE TPA FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS AND IT WAS THE LAST ONE THAT FDOT HAD NOT FUNDED.

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WE'LL SEE WHAT THE STUDY BRINGS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EXPEDITE THAT PROJECT USING THEIR NUMBERS.

>> SPEAKING OF CJ, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM TO COVER THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.

HE WILL ACTUALLY LIKELY COVER CRITICAL ARTERIAL SEGMENTS, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO HIM AT THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, THOMAS. FOR THIS YEAR'S PRESENTATION IN 2023, THE COUNTY SKIP A LOT OF THE COUNT STATIONS TO SURVEY THE 2023 TRAFFIC COUNT AND THE FDOT INFORMATION, WHICH CAN BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT THOSE MISSING COUNTS ARE STILL YET NOT AVAILABLE.

SOMEHOW WE NEED TO TAKE THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, THE DIFFERENT SOURCE OF THE DATA, AND AS SUCH, THE DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY TO ANALYZE AND ASSIGN THE LEVEL OF SERVICES.

AS A RESULT, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THE SO CALLED THE BIG DATA PLAY FORM, WHICH IS MAINTAINED BY FHWA, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, AND ALSO THE UNIVERSITY OF THE MARYLAND CATT LABORATORY.

ADVANTAGE OF THIS BIG DATA PLAY FORM IS ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE YOU 24/7 THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEARS INSTEAD OF ONE DAY COUNT DURING THE YEAR TRADITIONALLY PROVIDED BY EITHER COUNTY OR THE STATE.

SO WE ARE ABLE TO USE THIS INTENSIVE DATABASE TO CONDUCT THE MORE THOROUGH ARTERIAL ANALYSIS AND UTILIZE IN THE ACTUAL SPEED, THE MEASUREMENT INSTEAD OF THE IMPUTED SPEED DATA TO DO ANALYSIS AND ASSIGN MORE ACCURATE ABOUT THE LEVEL SERVICE GRADE ON THIS MAJOR ARTERIAL.

>> CJ, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR US UP HERE IN THE PUBLIC, IS IT THE CASE THAT THE COUNTY, BECAUSE I THINK THIS WENT BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, THEY USED TO DO COUNTS EVERY YEAR AND THEN I THINK AS A BUDGETARY SAVINGS THING, THEY RELY EVERY OTHER YEAR ON FDOT'S NUMBERS. IS THAT NOT CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> I JUST WANT TO KIND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, SO THAT THIS MEANS EVERY OTHER YEAR THAT HAPPENS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION BECAUSE YOU'RE LEVERAGING THE INFORMATION WE HAVE, THANK YOU, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WAS A BUDGETARY THING AND IT'S BEEN HITTING US NOW EVERY OTHER YEAR AND YOU JUST CONFIRMED THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MOST CRITICAL SEGMENTS ON INDIANTOWN ROAD FIRST, UTILIZING THE FIVE MINUTES, THE ACTUAL SPEED MEASUREMENT.

IT'S ACTUALLY PROVIDED 24-HOURS CONTINUOUS COUNT TO THE ACTUAL SPEED MEASUREMENT ALONG THE INDIANTOWN IN THESE TWO MOST CRITICAL SEGMENT FROM I-95 TO CENTER STREET, BROKEN DOWN BY EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND DIRECTION.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE THRESHOLD FOR DEFINING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE D AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE E [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS THE FAILING GRADE, IS 17 MILES PER HOUR.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS EASTBOUND CHAPTER E VERSUS THE WESTBOUND, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DIRECTION BETWEEN I-95 AND CENTRAL BOULEVARD IS ACTUALLY EASTBOUND.

BETWEEN 7:45 AND 8:15, IT DOES FALL BELOW 17 MILES PER HOUR.

CONVERSELY, THE WESTBOUND APPROACH DURING THE PM PEAK WITHIN THE CENTRAL BOULEVARD AND THE CENTER STREET, IT'S A FALL BELOW THE 17 MILES PER HOURS THRESHOLD DURING APPROXIMATELY 4:00-5:30.

IT DOES DEPEND ON MORE CLEAR PICTURES ON THOSE TIME PERIOD AT INDIANTOWN.

IN SOME PORTION OF THAT, IN SOME TIME FRAME, IT DOES FAIL THE ROW BELOW THE LEVEL OF

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WE WANT TO SEE IF RELIABLY, THAT FIVE MINUTES AVERAGE CARRY OUT OVER THE ONE-HOUR TIME PERIOD THAT SUSTAIN THE DRIVER'S EXPERIENCE DURING THAT CONGESTING TIME PERIOD.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE-HOUR AVERAGE SPEED, INDEED THE EASTBOUND FROM I-95 TO CENTRAL IS A FALL BELOW 70 MILES PER HOUR.

THERE WAS RATED LEVELS E, A FAILING GRADE, ON THE WESTBOUND FROM CENTRAL TO THE CENTER STREET.

AGAIN, A FALL BELOW THE 70 MILES, SO IT'S RATED THE LEVELS OF E TOO.

IT HAS SOME INCONSISTENCY IF YOU TAKE THE SPEED MEASURES VERSUS THE TRADITIONAL VOLUME-BASED MEASURES.

IT DOES CREATE SOME INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN HOW YOU ASSIGN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE GRADE ONTO IT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE MOST CRITICAL ONE, AS MENTIONED BY THE MAYORS BETWEEN THE CENTRAL AND CENTER STREET, UTILIZING THE TWO-WAY DIRECTION OF FLOW RATE BASED ON THE VOLUME, IS ACTUALLY PASS THE LEVEL SERVICE D. IT'S NOT FAILING, HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPEED DATA, YOU CANNOT CARRY OVER THE MORE CLEAR PICTURE THAT INDEED BASED ON MY HOME EXPERIENCE AS A COMMUTER EVERY DAY, PASSING THROUGH DURING THE PM PEAK.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT FROM CENTER STREET ALL THE WAY TO THE I-95, IT CAN BE SUSTAINABLE AS A LEVEL OF SERVICE D.

I THINK THE FAILING GRADE WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.

ALSO, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE AS A WHOLE CORRIDOR, UTILIZING THE DEMAND TO THE CAPACITY RATIO.

1.0 MINUTE IS THE THRESHOLD FOR THE FAILING GRADE VERSUS NON-FAILING GRADE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE CORRIDOR AS A WHOLE, ALTHOUGH THIS FIVE ARTERIAL CORRIDOR, ACTUALLY THEIR DEMAND FALL BELOW THE CAPACITY, MEANING THAT THEY DID NOT EXCEED THAT CAPACITY OVER ALL THE CORRIDOR.

HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRITICAL SEGMENT, ESPECIALLY ON THE INDIANTOWN ROAD, THE [INAUDIBLE] RATIO, IN PARTICULAR AFTER 2011, HISTORICALLY AFTER 2011, THE BIG RECESS INTO THE CAPACITY RATIO, IT RAISES TO 110% ABOVE THE CAPACITY AND KEEP RISING JUST RIGHT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

THEN IT TAKES A DIVE DURING A PANDEMIC.

THEN IN 2022, IT ACTUALLY REACHED THE RECORD HEIGHT AFTER THE PANDEMIC IN 2022.

I WILL NOT GET INTO THE DETAIL OF THIS TOWNWIDE LEVEL OF SERVICE TABLE BASED ON THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES IN 2022, BUT JUST HIGHLIGHTED THE [INAUDIBLE] FAILING SEGMENT.

THE FIRST ONE BEING THE CENTER STREET, THE TWO SEGMENT FROM INDIANTOWN ROAD TO LOXAHATCHEE RIVER, FROM LOXAHATCHEE RIVER TO ALTERNATE A1A.

BOTH SEGMENTS ARE FAILING INSTEAD OF THE DAILY CONDITIONS AND ALSO THE TWO-WAY PEAK HOURS DURING THE RUSH HOUR.

BUT THEY ARE ASSIGNED WITH THE SO-CALLED THE CRALLS, STAND FOR THE CONSTRAINED ROADWAY AT LOWER LEVEL OF SERVICE.

THEY ARE IMMUNE FROM THE FAILING LEVEL OF SERVICE.

HOWEVER, THE COUNTY DOES IMPROVE THE TWO LAND SECTION FROM THE INDIANTOWN ROAD TO THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND I BELIEVE IT IS 2019,

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THEN IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THEY ARE GOING TO LAUNCH THE SAME GEOMETRIES IMPROVEMENT OVER THE SECOND SEGMENT FROM THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER TO THE ALTERNATE A1A.

ON CENTRAL BOULEVARD, NORTH OF INDIANTOWN ROAD, THEY BOTH FELL IN TERMS OF DAILY TRAFFIC AND THE TWO-HOUR, TWO-WAY PEAK HOURS.

AGAIN, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO IMPROVE BY CONVERTING FROM A TWO-LANE ROAD TO A FOUR-LANE ROAD, AS THOMAS HAS ALREADY TOUCHED ON.

DONALD ROSS ROAD, EAST OF THE PROSPERITY FARM, IT FELL IN THE DAILY CONDITIONS.

NEXT PAGE, INDIANTOWN ROAD, SEVERAL FAILING GRADES FROM THE TURNPIKE ALL THE WAY TO THE CENTER STREET.

IN TERMS OF THE DAILY CONDITIONS DURING THE RUSH HOUR, IT FELL FROM THE TURNPIKE TO CENTRAL BOULEVARD.

ON THE OTHER HAND, THE US 1, SOUTH OF MASINSKI, NORTH OF DONALD ROSS, THAT SEGMENT ALSO FELL IN THE DAILY CONDITION TOO.

>> BEFORE YOU GO ON, BECAUSE WE GET THIS ANNUALLY AND IT IS THE GOAL OF THE COUNCIL IN WORKING WITH OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING THE ACTIONS WE NEED TO TAKE TO IMPROVE LEVEL OF SERVICE, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE BY EXAMPLE.

I KNOW YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS WELL, BUT DONALD ROSS ROAD, WE HAVE ON HERE ROADS THAT ARE TOWN ROADS, COUNTY ROADS, FDOT ROADS.

BUT WE ALL STILL ADVOCATE THAT SEGMENT WAY EAST ON DONALD ROSS ROAD, THAT SERVICE LEVEL F, BECAUSE I ADVOCATED FOR YEARS.

THE BRIDGE WAS CONSTRUCTED FOR SIX LANES AND FOUR LANES ARE BEING USED.

THE COUNTY, AND I'M NOT FINDING ANY FAULT WITH THIS, BUT THEY BELIEVE THAT THE BEST WAY TO COVER THAT IS WHAT I WOULD CALL MORE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER TURN LANE ON ELLISON WILSON.

NOW, I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I'M A BIT SKEPTICAL HAVING TO GO ON THAT WAY FOR DECADES, BUT THEY BELIEVE THAT WILL SOLVE THAT. YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT? I'M JUST SHARING THE PUBLIC, OBSERVING.

EVERY TIME THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S FAILING, WE OUGHT TO KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING UNDER WORKS TO FIX IT.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE NOT LIVING UP WITH A COMP PLAN OBLIGATION.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ON THE LIST BUT WE KNOW IT'S WORKING, CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> YOU'RE NODDING YOUR HEAD. THAT FALLS IN THE COUNTY'S PLAN, SO WHEN WE REVIEW THE COUNTY'S PLAN EVERY YEAR, WE ENGAGE ON THOSE KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS.

>> THAT'S A SENSIBLE MITIGATION BECAUSE A BOTTLENECK IS ALWAYS ADDING THESE SECTIONS.

NEXT IS SOME TYPE OF GETTING INCREASING ATTENTION AS THE ALTERNATIVE MEASURE IN ADDITION TO THE CONGESTIONS RELIABILITY.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE SEVERAL PERFORMANCE MEASURES ADOPTED BY THE FHWA, FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, INCLUDING FIVE PERFORMANCE MEASURE.

IN ADDITION TO THE TRANSIT ASSET MANAGEMENT AND THE TRANSIT SAFETY, WE HAVE THE SO-CALLED PERFORMANCE MEASURE 1 BEING THE TRAFFIC SAFETY, TRANSPORTATION SAFETY, AND THE PM 2, INCLUDING THE PAVEMENT BRIDGES INFRASTRUCTURES ALSO NUMBER 3.

THE THIRD PERFORMANCE MEASURE BEING THE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE.

THIS SYSTEM PERFORMANCE CATEGORY DOES INCLUDE IN ADDITION TO THE CONGESTION AIR QUALITY BUT ALSO THE RELIABILITY.

THE FHWA ADOPTED ALTERNATIVE RELIABILITY MEASURES, IT'S CALLED LOTTR AND LEVEL OF TRAVEL TIME RELIABILITY.

THEY USE THE DIFFERENT MEASURES FROM WHAT I'M USING HERE.

THEY USE SO CALLED THE 80 PERCENTILE VERSUS 50 PERCENTILE.

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I DO NOT COME UP WITH THAT PARTICULAR MEASURES FOR THE INDIANTOWN ROAD.

HOWEVER, FROM RESEARCH HAD TO FIND OUT, AS LONG AS YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE APPROPRIATE MEASURES FOR THE RELIABILITY AND THEN TRY TO MAKE A CONNECTION, TRY TO MAKE A GOOD CORRELATION WITH THE CONGESTION MEASURES, THEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT AND THEN TURN IT INTO THE USEFUL INFORMATION.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART TO YOUR RIGHT, THE CONGESTION INDEX, THE HORIZONTAL AXIS, IT REPRESENTED THE PERCENTAGE OF REDUCTIONS DURING THE RUSH HOUR OR ANY TIME FRAME YOU'RE INTERESTED AS A PERCENTAGE OF REDUCTION IN RELATION TO THE FREE FOR SPEED.

Y-AXIS IS SO CALLED THE PLANNING TIME INDEX AND WHAT IT DOES IS TAKING A 95 VERY HIGH PERCENTILE LEVEL OF RELIABILITY TRAVEL TIME VERSUS THE FREE FLOW TRAVEL TIME INSTEAD OF THE AVERAGE TRAVEL TIME.

THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATION FOR THAT IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE X HORIZONTAL AXIS.

LET ME TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF I-95 TO CENTRAL THE SEGMENT AS ONE EXAMPLE.

DURING THE RUSH HOUR, THE FREE FLOW TRAVEL TIME IS ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MINUTES DURING THE PEAK SEASON, FROM JANUARY TO MARCH.

FROM SEPTEMBER TO NOVEMBER, THE AVERAGE FOR TRAVEL TIME BECOMES 1.2 MINUTES.

THE CORRESPONDING CONGESTION IN INDEX DURING THE RUSH HOUR IS BETWEEN ABOUT 60-80% OF THE DECLINATION IN THE AVERAGE SPEED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT RANGE BETWEEN 0.6 AND 0.8 IN THE CONGESTION INDEX, THAT CORRESPONDS WELL TO THE PLANNING TIMING INDEX ABOUT FIVE OR SEVEN TIMES.

WHAT IT TELLS US IS DURING THOSE TIMES, DURING THE CONGESTION TIME, YOU NEED TO SPEND AT LEAST 5-7 TIMES FREE FOR TRIAL TIME TO PASS THROUGH THAT CRITICAL SEGMENT.

YOU CAN IMAGINE IN NORMAL TIMES IT TAKE ONE HALF MINUTES, BUT NOW IT NEED TO SET ASIDE AT LEAST EIGHT MINUTES TO 10 MINUTES.

TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A HIGH 95 PERCENTILE LEVEL OF RELIABILITY.

THAT IS THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATION FOR THAT.

LASTLY, IN THIS CHART, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BEFORE AND AFTER EVALUATION IN TERMS OF THEIR SAFETY BENEFIT IN TWO LOCATIONS.

THE FIRST LOCATION I TOUCHED ON THE CENTER STREET COUNTY DID CONVERTING FROM TWO LANE SECTION TO THE THREE LANE SECTIONS, INCLUDING THE TWO WAY LEFT TURN LANE IN BETWEEN.

THE PROJECT WAS DONE IN 2019 AND AS I USED THE DAY BEFORE THERE.

A FOUR YEARS AS A BENCHMARK AND COMPARE WITH THE AFTER FROM 2022 OCCURRING TIMES, I FIND THAT IN TERMS OF THE CRASH OF A RATE PER MEDIAN VEHICLE MILES TRAVEL, IT HAS 60% OF THE REDUCTION IN TERMS OF THE CRASH RATE.

THE SECOND LOCATION IS THE PEANUT ROUNDABOUT AT THE CENTRAL AND UNIVERSITY OF BOULEVARD.

THE TIME PERIOD FOR EVASION IS AFTER TWO YEARS FROM THE INTERSECTION BEING OPENED ON AUGUST 22, 2021.

IN TERMS OF THE CRASH FREQUENCY, THE CRASH RATE, THE RELATIVE CRASH SEVERITY PER CRASHES, IT ALL HAS PERFORMED REDUCTION OF 60% DUE TO MOST OF THE CRASHES ARE PROPERTY DAMAGE ONLY.

IT ACTUALLY RESULT IN THE MORE, EVEN A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THE REDUCTION IN TERMS OF THE CRASH COST.

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>> THANK YOU. REAL QUICK.

I JUST WANT TO POINT [NOISE] OUT, I LOVE THE CENTRAL BOULEVARD UNIVERSITY ROUND ABOUT THE REDUCTION IN CRASHES IS AWESOME, BUT I THINK IT'S BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY GET TO THAT ROUND ABOUT.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> EVERYONE JUST STOPS.

WHETHER THIS WAS ON PURPOSE OR NOT, IT'S A GENIUS DESIGN BECAUSE YOU JUST MAKE IT SO CONFUSING THAT EVERYONE STOPS AND NO ONE ACTUALLY GETS IN AN ACCIDENT. I THINK IT'S PRETTY COOL.

>> WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU, ALSO SAY NO.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SLOW DOWN.

BECAUSE I GO THAT WAY AND EVERYBODY IS PREPARED TO YIELD.

EVERYBODY'S MORE IN A MOOD OF YIELDING AND SAYING I HAVE THE RIGHT AWAY.

IN FLORIDA, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A RIGHT AWAY.

YOU HAVE TO YIELD TO THE RIGHT AWAY, NOBODY'S ABIDING THE RIGHT AWAY YOU HAVE TO YIELD TO THE RIGHT.

>> THEY DON'T KNOW THEY'RE IN THE ROUNDABOUT. YEAH.

>> ALL AS DO I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON.

>> I DO SEE DAILY ENTERING TRAFFIC BEING HIGHER WHEN WE FIRST PUT THAT ROUNDABOUT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IN THE PEANUT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE CHOSE OTHER ROUTES BECAUSE IT WAS VERY CONFUSING.

YOU TYPICALLY HAVE TO LOOK OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND USE IT AND UNDERSTAND IT.

ARE YOU SEEING THAT WITH THE ROUNDABOUT?

>> SINCE I HAVE COMPILER ORDER TO COMPILE WITH THE RATE CRASH RATE, I DO HAVE THE ANNUAL DIRTY TRAFFIC COUNT INFORMATION AND I DID NOT FIND THAT IS THE FACT.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAH. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLIMENT THOUGH.

>> NO, IT'S LIKE I SAID, WHETHER IT WAS ON PURPOSE OR NOT, IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO. YEAH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> [BACKGROUND].

>> I'LL CONTINUE ON GIVING YOU VARIOUS PROJECT STATUS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

AT THE END, IT I'LL COVER A PORTION OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY ITEMS WHICH ARE ON THEIR FIVE YEAR PLAN.

THE CURRENT PROJECT WHICH WE HAVE HERE, A1A AND JUPITER BEACH ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT RECONSTRUCTS THE EXISTING T-INTERSECTION INTO A ROUNDABOUT AND THE PROJECT STATUS IS THAT IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THE PROJECT DID ENCOUNTER A NUMBER OF UTILITY CONFLICTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT ITSELF, WHICH HAS AFFECTED THE SCHEDULE.

AS A PART OF THAT, THE TOWN STAFF HAVE REQUESTED AN UPDATED SCHEDULE FROM THE OVERALL CONTRACTOR ITSELF BECAUSE THEY DID HAVE TO COME, THEY HAD TO TURN AROUND AND MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL LONG LEAD ITEM CHANGES SUCH AS SOME DRAINAGE STRUCTURES.

WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO GET AN UPDATED SCHEDULE FOR THAT, BUT THE WORK IS EXPECTED TO EXTEND INTO MARCH.

WE EXPECT THE END SERVICE DATE TO BE LATER IN THE SPRING OF 2024.

THEN THE NEXT PROJECT, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT TONEY PENNA DRIVE IN CENTRAL BOULEVARD.

THIS WOULD INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION.

THE STATUS IS THAT THE TOWN IS WORKING ON AND FINALIZING AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THAT LOCATION WITH THE COUNTY.

THIS IS IT'S PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE TOWN AS WELL AS IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED BY THE COUNTY.

WOULD REQUIRE JUST TO NOTE, THIS LOCATION WOULD REQUIRE A TURN LANE EXTENSION WHICH WOULD BE FUNDED BY THE TOWN ON TONEY PENNA DRIVE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT A MORE EFFECTIVE LOCATION.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT'S VERY SMALL BUT THE TURN LANE ON TONEY PENNA IN DRIVE ITSELF FOR TURNING RIGHT IS ACTUALLY VERY SHORT.

A TURN LANE EXTENSION WOULD BE NECESSARY IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT AND THEN WITH A PROJECTED IN SERVICE DATE TO BE DETERMINED, IT WOULD BE BASED ON HOW LONG IT TAKES THE COUNTY TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

HOWEVER, WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT BACK TO THE COUNTY BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, TRYING TO PUSH FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PORTION OF THAT TO GET THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL HEARD ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WITH THE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT.

DO WE THINK WE'RE DOWN TO THE POINT THAT THEY'LL AGREE?

>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT ITSELF, IT HAD BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD WITH A COUPLE OF ITEMS. ONE BEING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ONLY AND THEN JURISDICTIONAL TRAFFIC CONTROL, WHICH ARE TWO.

WHILE THEY THEY MIGHT BE RELATED, THE JURISDICTIONAL TRAFFIC CONTROL PORTION IT'S TAKEN A LONG PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE WE HAD 40 YEARS WORTH OF JURISDICTIONAL TRAFFIC CONTROL AGREEMENTS AS WELL AS RIGHT OF WAY TRANSFERS THAT WERE ALREADY BEING SERVED THROUGH MULTIPLE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN US AND THE COUNTY.

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>> NO, I KNOW IT HAS.

I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE ALL ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE HAVE YET ANOTHER MEETING.

WE'RE THINKING, GEE, IT'S MAKING PROGRESS.

I WAS ASKING AN IMPOSSIBLE QUESTION, BUT KEEP US INFORMED.

IF WHEN WE GET IT BACK TO THE COUNTY IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH.

>> WE WILL AS STAFF CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR THOSE TO BE SEPARATE ITEMS AS WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE TIME, JUST TRYING TO GET THOSE TO BE TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENTS.

>> I APPRECIATE STAFF CONTINUING TO PUSH, BUT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, SO KEEP US POSTED IF IN FACT IT DOESN'T GO.

WE DON'T WANT TO MEDDLE WITH YOUR PROCESS, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY TIMES YOU CAN PUSH THE ROCK UP THE HILL.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I APPRECIATE THE EMPHASIS.

WITH JUPITER PARK DRIVE, CENTRAL BOULEVARD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, THIS EXTENDS A TURN LANE, INSTALLS UNDERGROUND PIPE, AS WELL AS INSTALLS LANDSCAPING AND WOULD MILL AND OVERLAY THE EXISTING ASPHALT ALONG THIS SECTION OF ROADWAY.

WE'RE WORKING TO AMEND THE SURVEY, WHICH SHOWS SOME MINOR UTILITY ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED IN THE PROJECT AREA PRIOR TO ADVERTISING THE PROJECT.

WE EXPECT THE IN SERVICE DATE TO BE FALL OF 2024.

THE DESIGN AT THIS POINT WOULD JUST HAVE MINOR ADDITIONS TO UTILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED IN THE AREA.

THE STAFF, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH ONE OF OUR CONTINUING SERVICES CONSULTANTS TO OBTAIN A PROPOSAL FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SCOPE TO TRY TO GO AHEAD AND PUSH THAT FORWARD.

WE'RE ABLE TO RUN NOT ONLY THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS AS STAFF ITSELF, BUT ALSO GET A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST US IN PUSHING THAT FORWARD AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS.

>> THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION.

DOES THIS ANTICIPATE THE ISLAND WAY EXTENSION?

>> THIS PROJECT, WHILE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE ISLAND WAY EXTENSION, IT DOESN'T EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO THE FAR END OF WHERE THE ISLAND WAY EXTENSION WOULD CONNECT.

ULTIMATELY, IF THERE WERE MORE TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF INDIAN TOWN ROAD UTILIZING THE ISLAND WAY EXTENSION, AND THEN GOING FURTHER TO AVOID AND GO TO THAT LOCATION, IT WOULD ASSIST IN TRAFFIC NOT BEING BACKING UP AT THAT INTERSECTION WITH A SHORTER TURN LANE.

>> HAS THERE BEEN CONSIDERATION IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT INCREASE TRAFFIC FLOW?

>> CJ, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE SOME MINOR.

>> AS LONG AS YOU ANTICIPATED.

>> HE'S DONE SOME REVIEW OF IT.

I KNOW AS WELL WHEN HE REVIEWED THE OVERALL LENGTH OF THE TURN LANE ITSELF, THAT THAT WAS BASED OFF OF TRAFFIC.

I'D PROBABLY BE EASIER FOR ME IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.

CJ, DO YOU MIND SPEAKING TO THAT?

>> I RECALL UTILIZING THE INTERSECTION COUNT.

DID TO FIGURE OUT HOW LONG IS THE ATTENDANT LANES.

NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO RELIEVE THE RIGHT TRAFFIC WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE BECOME THE FREE FLOW DURING THE OVERLAPPING PHASES.

I FORGOT THE LENS OF EXTENSIONS BUT THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS THE PRIMARY GOAL TO ACHIEVE UTILIZING THE INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENT COUNT AS THE BASIS FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE TONEY PENNA DRIVE AND BUSH ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS INSTALLS AN EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE AS WELL AS A RECEIVING LANE FOR TRAFFIC COMING FROM BUSH ROAD AS WELL AS A BYPASS THROUGH EASTBOUND TRAFFIC LANE IN ADDITION TO AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK ALONG TONEY PENNA DRIVE.

THE CURRENT STATUS OF THAT IS THE PROJECT IS THAT THE STAFF WERE COORDINATING WITH ALSO A CONTINUING SERVICES CONSULTANT TO WORK ON FINALIZING A PROPOSAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN FOR THAT PROJECT.

PROJECTED IN SERVICE DATE WOULD BE LATE 2025.

WE ALSO AS STAFF, WE'VE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH A LOCAL SURVEYOR TO OBTAIN TOPOGRAPHICAL SURVEY AND WORK ON SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY DATA NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF.

>> THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY.

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>> CJ HAS DONE QUITE A BIT OF ANALYSIS, AND HE HAS SHOWN THAT IT WILL DEFINITELY IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION ITSELF.

THE NEXT PROJECT IS PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A STRATEGIC INITIATIVE ITEM WHICH JUST FOR THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE, ONLY SHOWS THAT IT'S 2-3 LOCATIONS.

HOWEVER, WHILE IT ONLY SHOWS 2-3 LOCATIONS IS A STRATEGIC INITIATIVE.

WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE BUDGET TO DO ROUGHLY THE THREE.

WE COULD PERFORM THIS AND INSTALL ALL FUTURE ONES IF THAT IS DESIRED BY THE COUNCIL ITSELF.

THE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LISTED THERE IN BOLD ARE THE THREE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO FUND BASED ON THE CURRENT BUDGET WE HAVE.

THE PROJECT IS THE STATUS ITSELF IS THAT IT'S IN DESIGN AND THE ENGINEERING, AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE LISTING FOR THE FIRST THREE LOCATIONS TO BE TARGETED AND FELT THAT THEY WERE GOOD LOCATIONS.

THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE OVERALL FIRST THREE, WE'RE LOOKING TO TARGET THOSE DURING THE SUMMER OF 2024.

REASON BEING IS TWO OF THEM ARE AS YOU CAN TELL, THEY'RE AT THE LOCATION OF SCHOOLS.

WE WOULD IDEALLY WANT THOSE TO THE CONSTRUCTION TO OCCUR DURING A TIME WHEN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC ESPECIALLY BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS IN PARTICULAR BASICALLY REROUTES HOW THE STUDENTS GO INTO THE SCHOOL.

THAT ONE BEING THE DAKOTA DRIVE LOCATION.

ALSO THAT LOCATION FOR DAKOTA DRIVE, IT REQUIRES SOME SIDEWALK MODIFICATIONS AND CROSSWALK MODIFICATIONS.

IT WOULD BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO RUN THAT DURING THE SUMMERS.

YES.

>> HOW MUCH IS IT PER LOCATION?

>> IT'S ROUGHLY $30,000 PER LOCATION.

THAT'S SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.

CJ HAD FACTORED FOR SOME LIGHTING AS WELL AS THE ACTUAL LIGHTED LAD ITSELF AND BEACON, AND ANY SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.

>> THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN I THINK I HAD UNDERSTOOD AT ONE POINT IN TIME, SO YOUR COST HAS GONE UP.

I MEAN, YOUR NOW FAIR VALUE ESTIMATE HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

>> CORRECT. SO IF YOU ASSUME ONLY FOR THE LIGHT, OR EXCUSE ME, FOR THE ACTUAL SIGNS THAT ARE LIGHTED, THOSE MAY NOT BE QUITE AS MUCH, BUT IF YOU FACTOR THAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO MODIFICATIONS FOR THE ACTUAL SIDEWALK CROSSINGS, AND OTHER ELEMENTS AND TRYING TO LIGHT THOSE LOCATIONS AS WELL, IT DOES FACTOR AND ADD UP.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I WANT TO JUST FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE, WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH ON THE STUFF.

IF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS IMPORTANT, I'VE SAID THIS, WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, I'VE SAID IT BUT NOBODY ELSE, A MAJORITY DOESN'T WEIGH IN.

SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'M ON THE RECORD SAY WE NEED TO DO THEM ALL.

SO I'M ON THE RECORD, WE NEED TO DO THEM ALL.

>> I AGREE.

>> SO STAFF WANTS TO THANK YOU.

IF STAFF WANTS TO GET BACK WITH US AND TELL US WE NEED TO PROVIDE MORE BUDGET, I'M FOR THAT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BUT WE UNDERSTAND.

I DIDN'T REALIZE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH BUDGET BECAUSE IN THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE, I THOUGHT WE WERE ADDING ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THEM.

SHAME ON ME. BUT FOR MY COLLEAGUES, THIS IS WHERE SOMETIMES IF ONE OF THEM WOULD SPEAK UP, WE DON'T ALL SPEAK UP, THEN IT ISN'T ACCEPTED.

SO STAFF HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT A PILOT, AND I'M WONDERING, I GO TO OTHER AREAS, THE GARDENS, THEY'VE GOT THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED A PILOT TO KNOW THEY WORK.

>> MAYOR, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE IF WE WERE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT OR NOT REALLY? I GUESS IT MAY BE A MID YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, AND PULL MONEY FROM THE RESERVES.

>> IT WOULD. I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT LET STAFF GET BACK WITH US.

WHY? BECAUSE THEN WE CAN AGENDA, IF YOU'RE GETTING DIRECTION.

>> I JUST DID QUICK MATH WITH ALL OF THEM.

HE SAID ABOUT 30K EACH, LIKE $360,000, TO DO ALL OF THEM.

>> AND THAT WILL SAVE A LIFE.

>> YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT.

>> JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, FUTURE AGENDA, HOW WE NEED TO ADJUST THE BUDGET.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THOSE ARE IMPORTANT.

>> ESPECIALLY IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOLS. THAT'S EASY.

>> YEAH.

>> AGREED.

>> ALL THESE, AND I'M ALWAYS TRY TO BE CAREFUL NOT ADVOCATING FOR WHERE I LIVE, BUT THE LAST ONE, WEST APPROACH CROSSING AT LONGSHORE,

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I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES POLICE HAVE BEEN OUT WORKING WITH THE CROSSING GUARD BECAUSE THAT WAS A UNIQUE INTERSECTION WHEN THEY DID IT.

SO EVERY ONE OF THESE HAS GOT SOMETHING UNIQUE TO IT, RIGHT? SO QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE.

THAT'S WHY I SAY, LOOK, STAFF CAME UP WITH THE LIST, ONE MORE GOT ADDED AND IT'S A GOOD START.

>> I'D LIKE TO GET INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT EYES IN SO MANY PLACES, BUT THE CITIZENS HAVE EYES EVERYWHERE.

>> RIGHT.

>> I ONLY KNOW THE ONES I PERSONALLY KNOW OF, BUT I WOULD BE VERY WELCOME TO CITIZEN'S COMMENTS ON THIS.

>> SURE. THIS IS A POWERFUL START ON DOING THE PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU COULD AS EASILY DO MANY AS YOU CAN THREE.

I KNOW IT'S MORE ENGINEERING TIME, BUT FINE.

>> CONSULTANT. OUR CONSULTANT [INAUDIBLE]

>> YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK ON AN AGENDA FOR A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THEN THIS LAST SLIDE FOR PROJECTS ITSELF, THIS IS THE COUNTY'S FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN JUPITER THAT ARE ON THE FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM.

THE FIRST ONE, AND CJ HAD BRIEFLY MENTIONED IT EARLIER, IT'S AT CENTER STREET ON CENTER STREET, FROM LOXAHATCHEE RIVER ROAD ALL THE WAY TO OUR ALTERNATE A1A.

FOR THE CURRENT STATUS, THE DESIGN NOTICE TO PROCEED IS EXPECTED IN SPRING/SUMMER OF 2024, AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION IS SCHEDULED IN FISCAL YEAR 2027 PER THE COUNTY'S FIVE YEAR PLAN.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS IS AN AREA OF LOCAL IMPORTANCE.

I KNOW THAT STEPHANIE THORBURN HERSELF HAS STAYED ON TOP OF THE COUNTY, IN TRYING TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE INPUT IN THAT SECTION.

SHE HERSELF HAS STAYED ON TOP OF THE COUNTY FOR WHAT THE DESIGN SCHEDULE IS AND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INPUT.

>> ON THIS ONE, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, JUST SO THAT COUNSEL AND THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, ANNUALLY PALM BEACH COUNTY UPDATES THIS, SO STAFF HAS THIS CORRECT AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

I HAVE A LETTER THAT I GOT ALONG WITH STAFF WHERE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT, SHOULD BE SURPRISED TO NOBODY, THAT ALONG WITH THE BIG COUNTY, THESE THINGS CAN CHANGE IN THE ANNUAL UPDATE.

I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY ENGINEER REACHING OUT TO US.

I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE PRACTICE FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I'M GRATEFUL THAT COUNTY ENGINEER SENT THIS TO US TO COMMENT.

WE HAVE TILL MID FEBRUARY TO RESPOND.

WE WILL, THEN IT'S BEYOND THEIR CONTROL.

THE ENGINEERS THERE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT GOES BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSION WITH LIMITED BUDGET, SO THINGS CAN CHANGE.

BUT I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING AN UPDATE THAT COULD CHANGE.

BUT THEN I WANTED TO SHARE ON CENTER STREET, BECAUSE WE ALL HAD THIS EXPECTATION.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE DESIGN COLLABORATIONS.

I HAD HEARD FROM STEPHANIE THAT THE COUNTY WAS NOT GOING TO ENGAGE THE TOWN IN THE DESIGN.

THEY WERE GOING TO FINISH THE DESIGN FIRST. HAD YOU HEARD THAT YOU?

>> BASED ON THE E MAIL TRAFFIC, I HAVE SEEN THERE THERE WAS DEFINITELY A STATEMENT FROM THE COUNTY STATING THAT THEY WOULD SOLICIT INPUT FROM THE MUNICIPALITY ITSELF PLUS THE TOWN.

>> THEY WOULD DO IT AFTER THEY DO THE DESIGN.

>> AFTER THE DESIGN, THAT I'M NOT THERE.

>> WELL, IN ANY EVENT, WHETHER THAT'S CORRECT INFORMATION OR NOT.

SO THAT CONCERNED ME.

SO IF THAT'S THE COUNTY'S POSITION, BECAUSE THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT, THIS IS A COUNTY PROJECT AND IT IS FUNDED IN 27, BUT AS IT SAYS HERE, DESIGN SHOULD BE PROCEEDING, AND THAT'S WHEN COLLABORATION SHOULD START.

I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE TOWN UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE MAY BE EXTRAS THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE IN THAT.

BUT THE TIME TO ENGAGE IN THOSE EXTRAS IS WHEN THE ENGINEERING IS BEING DONE.

SO, I THINK, I'M GETTING A CONSENSUS ON THAT.

IF THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO ENGAGE OUR PUBLIC IN THE DESIGN BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S ALL THEIR COSTS AND KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY, THEN WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A LOCAL ROAD, WE WANT SOME EXTRAS AND WE'LL PAY FOR IT.

NO DIFFERENT THAN WE HAD TO DEAL WITH ON THE A1A INTERSECTION THAT YOU WENT THROUGH HELL GETTING THE COUNTY'S INPUTS ON.

>> CJ AND TOM.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> TOM BEFORE ME.

>> I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.

SO LET'S CONFRONT THAT WITH THE COUNTY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE RECOGNIZE IF WE ASKED FOR EXTRAS,

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PUBLIC'S BEEN WAITING ON THIS, SO PLEASE KEEP US POSTED AND ASK FOR HELP IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ENGAGE US WITH PUBLIC MEETINGS ABOUT THAT.

>> I FULLY AGREE WITH THAT. WE'VE HAD ONE-ON-ONES WITH STEPHANIE, BUT THIS IS OUR HISTORIC MAIN STREET.

I SEE IT ON THIS CHART HERE, AND IT'S EASY TO LOSE TRACK OF THE FACT THAT CENTER STREET FROM LOXAHATCHEE RIVER ROAD TO ALTERNATE A1A IS OUR HISTORIC MAIN STREET.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE VIEW THAT BEING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE, WALKABILITY BEING AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, SAFETY BEING AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND SO THE VISION FOR THAT ROAD, THE TOWN VISION VERSUS THE COUNTY VISION IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, SO WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT.

>> IT'S A CONVENIENT CUT THROUGH ALSO, SO THAT'S [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE LEARNED EARLIER FROM CJ, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS CONSIDER.

>> WHEN WE RESPOND BACK, AND I WANT TO BE IN THE LOOP WHEN WE RESPOND BACK TO THE COUNTY ON OUR FEEDBACK ON THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, WE'LL INCLUDE IN THAT LETTER THAT THE TOWN'S POSITION IS WE WANT TO ENGAGE IN THE DESIGN REVIEWS SO THAT KEEPS IT IN PROCESS.

BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE RECOGNIZE STAFF TRIES BUT YOU CAN GET THE RUN AROUND.

THIS ONE'S TOO IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT TO NOT ENGAGE US TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE INCLUDING YOU.

>> I'LL RUN UP THE FLAGPOLE IF I HAVE THE CHANCE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JUST REAL QUICK ON THIS TOO, JUST SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.

THE ADDITIONAL LANE BETWEEN LOXAHATCHEE ROAD AND ALTERNATE A1A, THAT'S TO MATCH WHAT IS FROM INDIAN-CHINA ROAD LOXAHATCHEE TO LOCK THAT RIVER ROAD, THAT CENTER TURN LANE, WHICH HELPS REDUCE TRAFFIC CRASHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THAT CENTER STREET IS A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD WITHOUT HAVING THAT CENTER TURN LANE FROM LOCKS RIVER ROAD TO ALTERNATE A1A.

A LOT OF THE ACCIDENTS ARE VERY SEVERE.

NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING VERY QUICKLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS OFF CENTER STREET, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AT HIGH LEVELS OF SERVICE TIMES OF THE DAY.

JUST SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, WE'RE NOT WIDENING IT AND MAKING MORE TRAVEL LANES.

IT'S MORE OR LESS A TURNING LANE TO INCREASE THE SAFETY ALONG CENTER STREET.

>> I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA.

I LIVED ON HOLLY GO FOR A YEAR AND THE ONE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, THERE'S THREE FATALITIES IN THAT STRETCH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY. IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEBODY GETS ON THAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC AND PUT THEM, THEY GUN IT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE TURNING AND PROBLEMS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT TURN LANE, I THINK, WILL HELP.

WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF FOUR LANING OR WAS THE COST PROHIBITIVE?

>> THAT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE ABOUT.

CJ, DO YOU KNOW IT?

>> IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE, I'M SURE.

>> IT'S THE COST.

>> WE HAD JUST REMOVED THE CROSS DESIGNATION OF THAT PORTION AS WELL.

I REMEMBER WE WERE DISCUSSING IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

>> NO, IT'S NEVER BEEN REMOVED.

>> IT'S NEVER BEEN REMOVED?

>> NO.

>> I KNOW WE WERE IN SUPPORT OF REMOVING IT THOUGH, I THINK.

>> THE CRAWLS, IF YOU REMOVED IT, THE CRAWLS APPROACH WAS TO CONSTRAIN THE ROADWAY.

THAT'S WHAT IT STANDS FOR, CONSTRAINED ROADWAY LOWER LEVEL SERVICE.

>> YEAH.

>> WE CONSTRAINED IT FOR QUALITY OF NEIGHBORHOOD, SO WE WOULDN'T BE REMOVING IT.

BUT THEREIN, WE SHOULD ALL RECOGNIZE BECAUSE IT'S CONSTRAINED AND RATHER THAN WIDEN IT, THEN MONIES CAN BE SPENT PUBLIC SAFETY CROSSINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> GOT YOU.

>> THE SECOND ITEM ON THIS TABLE ITSELF WE ALREADY DISCUSSED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, IT'S ALSO ON THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

THEN THE FINAL ITEM THAT'S LISTED THERE IS CHURCH STREET PROJECT WHICH PROVIDES SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, DRAINAGE AS WELL AS LIGHTED ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHURCH STREET LIMESTONE CREEK.

PROJECT LIMITS ARE FROM LIMESTONE CREEK TO JUST WEST OF CENTRAL BOULEVARD.

I'VE REQUESTED A STATUS FROM THE COUNTY ON THAT, BUT NEVER HEARD BACK FROM THEM UNFORTUNATELY.

BUT THE PROJECT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN ITSELF IS SHOWN ON AS BEING FUNDED IN 2024 OR SO.

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF ENGLAND.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THE STATISTICS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE BEFORE YOU SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023 WERE THOSE AVAILABLE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MONTH WHEN AGENDA ITEM HAD TO BE PUBLISHED SO THEY WERE REFLECTIVE OF JANUARY 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER 15TH.

HOWEVER, ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK, I DID RECEIVE THE NUMBERS FOR THE CALENDAR

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ON THE FIRST SLIDE, YOU SEE THAT THE TOTAL TRAFFIC CRASHES FOR 2023 SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PERIODS OF 2019-2023.

I CAN TELL YOU THE 1,905 WHICH IS YOUR 2023 NUMBERS HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO 1,993 CRASHES FOR THE YEAR.

THAT WOULD BE AN 8% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.

YOU SEE A SMALL DECREASE FROM 2020 WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY OF THE YEAR OF COVID.

THEN AS DRIVING HABITS AND THE GOVERNMENT OPEN BACKED UP AND YOU START SEEING THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES INCREASE, THEN YOU SEE THE NUMBER OF CRASHES COMING BACK TO 2,000 WHICH IS ROUGHLY THE AMOUNT OF CRASHES THAT WE WOULD REALIZE YEAR TO YEAR PRIOR TO COVID.

SO DUI-RELATED CRASHES.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE WERE 184 ARRESTS FOR DUI AND 54 CRASHES RELATED TO DRIVERS OPERATING UNDER THE INFLUENCE FOR THE YEAR 2023.

THAT IS A MINOR DECREASE IF YOU LOOK AT A TREND LINE THROUGH THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT.

THE NUMBER OF DUI ARRESTS HAVE INCREASED.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE IMPLEMENTED TWO NEW TRAFFIC POSITIONS ON NIGHT SHIFT WHERE THOSE OFFICERS, ONE ON EACH PLATOON ARE SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO BASICALLY HUNTING DOWN OPERATORS OF VEHICLES WHO ARE OPERATING WHILE IMPAIRED.

THAT NUMBER GOING UP NECESSARILY ISN'T A BAD THING, IT'S JUST A RESULT OF MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE FOCUSING ON DUI DRIVERS.

THEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT INVESTIGATING DUI DRIVERS, IF A CRASH OCCURS THEY OBVIOUSLY TAKE THE CRASHES THAT RESULT IN THE NIGHT HOURS ALSO.

LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FIVE SPECIFIC ROADWAYS THAT HAVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF CRASHES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND IT HAS BEEN CONSISTENT FOR THE FIVE YEARS.

THOSE ROADS HAVE BASICALLY REMAINED THE SAME.

INDIANTOWN ROAD REALIZED; FOR THIS TIME PERIOD, I DON'T HAVE THE ANNUALS, 514 CRASHES WHICH WAS THE ROADWAY WITH THE MOST AMOUNT OF CRASHES.

THE SECOND IS ALTERNATE A1A WITH 295, MILITARY TRAIL, 152, US HIGHWAY 1 AT 127, AND DONALD ROSS ROAD AT 86.

FOUR OF THOSE FIVE ROAD ARE PRETTY MUCH CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

THE ONE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IS ALTERNATE A1A.

NOW ALTHOUGH WE DO NOT NECESSARILY COLLECT DATA IN CRASHES REGARDING WHERE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING FROM OR TO, ONE COULD EASILY CORRELATE THAT TO THE BRIDGE PROJECT AND MORE VEHICLES BEING MOVED OVER TO THE ALTERNATE A1A AROUND THE US 1 BRIDGE PROJECT.

THAT SPECIFICALLY SAW AN INCREASE OF 54 CRASHES OR ROUGHLY 22%.

>> CHIEF, BEFORE YOU GO, JUST GO ON BACK IF YOU WOULD.

I DID LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE I SAVED THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S ONES AND ON THE INTERSECTIONS, I CONCLUDE CLEARLY THE DETOUR ROUTE IS PICKING UP A LOT MORE.

I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE INDIANTOWN, ALT A1A WAS 90 CRASHES, IT WAS 75 OF THE PRIOR YEAR.

US 1 AND ALTERNATE A1A WASN'T IN THE TOP FIVE AND INDIANTOWN, US 1 WASN'T IN THE TOP FIVE.

EXCUSE ME, IT WAS 28 BUT NOW WENT TO 38 SO INDIANTOWN CENTRAL BOULEVARD WENT 69 TO 52.

I'M JUST LOOKING BETWEEN NUMBERS GOING UP ON THE DETOUR ROUTE OR ONE MOVING IN THE TOP FIVE.

CLEARLY, DETOUR ROUTE IS THE CAUSE OF HIGHER ACCIDENT RATE AND I ALMOST WONDER IF BUT FOR THAT, THE NUMBERS MIGHT HAVE GONE DOWN IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING MY POINT I'M MAKING HERE.

>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

THE CORRELATION BETWEEN CRASHES ON A ROADWAY IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH COMPARING THEM TO THE VOLUME OF THE VEHICLES ON THE ROADWAY RATHER THAN JUST THE YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISONS.

BUT ANECDOTALLY, WE WERE 100% CORRECT.

>> WELL, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ROADWAY AND I WAS JUST FOCUSING JUST ON THE INTERSECTIONS ALONE WHERE A GOOD PORTION OF THE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT ONE MOVED INTO THE TOP FIVE THAT WASN'T THERE AND THE OTHER TWO WENT UP WHILE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WENT DOWN.

ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT OBSERVATION.

SO HOPEFULLY AS THE BRIDGE OPENS-

>> HOPEFULLY THAT WILL RELIEVE SOME OF THOSE INSTANCES.

>> RIGHT.

>> CHIEF, I HAVE ONE QUESTION AS WELL.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> JUST LOOKING AT DONALD ROSS ROAD AND COMPARING IT TO INDIANTOWN ROAD, THAT'S STRIKING THE DIFFERENCE.

I IMAGINE THAT'S BECAUSE OF A, THE NUMBER OF MILES INCLUDED IN THE TOWN IN THE CALCULATION.

BUT IS IT ALSO BECAUSE DONALD ROSS ROAD; I UNDERSTAND HALF OF IT IS IN OUR JURISDICTION BUT THE OTHER HALF IS IN GARDENS, IS THAT?

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>> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

>> OKAY.

>> SO INDIANTOWN ROAD IS A LONGER ROAD AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

AS COMPARED TO DONALD ROSS ROAD, THIS WOULD ONLY BE THE CRASHES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH WESTBOUND BETWEEN I95 AND JUST PAST MILITARY TRAIL.

>> SO IN THEORY, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH PALM BEACH GARDENS TO HAVE MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF DONALD ROSS ROAD AND THE NUMBER OF CRASHES.

>> THE OTHER DIRECTION LANES WOULD BE PALM BEACH GARDEN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

>> OH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE?

>> THEN FROM THE SIDEWALK SOUTH WOULD BE PALM BEACH GARDENS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> IT IS THE MOST CONFUSING ROAD THAT WE HAVE.

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

>> I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF WE RUN A CAR ACCIDENT THAT'S EASTBOUND DONALD ROSS, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR PBSO TO GET THERE.

BUT IF IT'S JUST SOUTH IN THE INTERSECTION, THEN GARDENS COMES.

BUT IF IT'S WESTBOUND, JUPITER COMES.

>> THE RAISED MEDIAN DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD IS THE DIVIDING LINE.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE POINT OF IMPACT OF THE CRASH OCCURS WOULD DETERMINE WHO ACTUALLY TOOK THE CRASH INVESTIGATION.

>> OKAY.

>> THAT'S A GREAT OBSERVATION.

I WOULD HOPE THAT IN FUTURE YEARS THAT WE ASKED FOR DONALD ROSS ROAD AND AS A MINIMUM A SIMPLISTIC LINK, IT'S GOT TO BE DOUBLE.

I KNOW IT MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

I WOULDN'T HAVE REALIZED IT WAS ONLY ONE WAY.

>> YEAH. WE DO HAVE AN INTEREST IN KNOWING THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND IMPACT TO OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR EXPERIENCE ON THAT ROAD.

WE KNOW THAT UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IS THERE NOW.

I THINK IT'LL ALWAYS BE IMPORTANT TO JUST HAVE A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF THAT TRAFFIC SITUATION.

>> COLLISION RATES ARE DETERMINED BY THE AMOUNT OF MILES DRIVEN I THINK IN LIKE MILLIONS OF MILES OR TENS OF MILLIONS OF MILES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT IS CORRECT.

CENTRAL BOULEVARD SOUTH SEGMENT.

THIS IS THE PORTION OF SOUTH CENTRAL BOULEVARD THAT RUNS BETWEEN INDIAN CREEK PARKWAY AND DONALD ROSS ROAD.

OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO, WE'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE AMOUNT OF CRASHES THAT OCCUR ON THAT ROADWAY WHICH OBVIOUSLY NECESSITATED THE DOG BONE OR PEANUT DESIGN MR. MAY WAS TALKING ABOUT.

AS YOU SEE, I SHOULD SAY WE HAVE 57 CRASHES LAST YEAR WHICH IS BOTH THE MEAN AND THE MEDIAN FOR THAT.

THEN OVER THE FIVE YEAR TREND, YOU CAN SEE A SLIGHT DOWNWARD TREND IN THE NUMBER OF CRASHES.

I WILL ALSO SAY THAT OUR TRAFFIC UNIT WHICH WE PUT BACK TOGETHER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS OF THE TOWN THAT THEY TRULY FOCUS ON BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE DOWN THERE AND INDIVIDUALS ARE TRAVELING FROM ABACO TO THE THREE SCHOOLS, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY FROM THE THREE SCHOOLS BACK IN THE AFTERNOON.

BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CRASHES FOR THE YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS ANOTHER AREA THAT WE PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT LAST YEAR WE HAD A TOTAL OF 37 CRASHES, EIGHT OF THEM WERE PEDESTRIAN CRASHES, 29 OF THEM WERE BICYCLE CRASHES.

THE OTHER INTERESTING THING IS THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW TIMES I'VE EVER SEEN A MEAN, MEDIAN, AND MODE ALL AT 37.

OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS YOU CAN SEE AGAIN, A SMALL DOWNWARD TREND OF THOSE NUMBERS OF CRASHES.

THE GOOD NEWS IS, OF THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CRASHES, MOST OF THEM ARE EITHER MINOR INJURY OR NO INJURY AT ALL.

I'M NOT SAYING THOSE ARE NOT SOME WITH SOME INJURIES, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CRASHES AND THE DISTRIBUTION OF AT FAULT IS ROUGHLY 50% THE BICYCLIST OR PEDESTRIAN VIOLATIONS, AND 50% THE VEHICLE OPERATOR CREATES SOME VIOLATION.

THEN LAST JUST TO GO OVER HERE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE DO TOWARDS TRAFFIC SAFETY.

THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE THAT WE REPORT ON EVERY YEAR IS GRANT FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED TO DO EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIANS.

YOU SEE, LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED GRANTS FROM IPTM, THE INSTITUTE OF POLICE TECHNOLOGY AND MANAGEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,160.

NOW, THIS IS A GRANT THAT'S DISPERSED OVER 50 MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE STATE AND THE AMOUNT OF REWARDED FOR THE GRANT IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO YOUR TRAFFIC CRASH STATISTICS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.

WE'RE RATHER LOW IN THE NUMBER OF CRASHES COMPARED TO SIMILAR MUNICIPALITIES OF OUR SIZE, BUT WE DO TAKE THOSE FUNDS AND WE PROVIDE EXTRA PATROL AND INITIATIVES SPECIFICALLY FOR INDIANTOWN ROAD AND FOR US 1, WE USE OUR MONTHLY STATISTICS TO DETERMINE THE TIME OF DAY, THE DAY OF WEEK, AND THE MONTH OF THE YEAR THAT WE UTILIZE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

AS A NOTE, ALSO, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DO WHEN WE START SEEING CRASHES AND WE COLLECT THE DATA AND WE REVIEW IT MONTHLY, WE DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEPLOY OUR HUMAN ASSETS AND OUR RESOURCES FOR EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

AS YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE TRAFFIC FATALITIES IN FOUR WEEKS IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR.

SO WE DID A BIG TRAFFIC PUSH IN ORDER TO DO A LOT OF EDUCATION.

WE REALIZED SOME COMMONALITY BETWEEN THE TRAFFIC CRASHES AND WE MADE A PUSH.

ULTIMATELY, OUR TRAFFIC STATISTICS FOR THE YEAR, WE DID ABOUT 3,000 MORE TRAFFIC STOPS THIS YEAR THAN WE DID LAST YEAR,

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ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU ALL? YES, SIR.

>> THIS MAY NOT BE A QUESTION FOR YOU PER SE.

MAYBE OUR ENGINEERING STAFF.

THIS HAS BEEN AN AREA OF FOCUS.

I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT OUR POLICE DO TO FOCUS ON THIS PEDESTRIAN BIKE SAFETY AND THE FACT THAT WE GOT UNANIMOUS SUPPORT TO EXPEDITE AND COMPLETE MORE CROSSING UPGRADES, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE WHEN SOMEONE'S IN THERE.

BUT ONE THING I'VE NOTICED, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE ROOT CAUSE I WANT TO ASK STAFF IS THAT, IF A LIGHT GOES OUT, WE'VE WE'VE INVESTED OVER THE YEARS WITH ADDING LIGHTS ONTO OUR ROADS.

>> TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, YOU MEAN?

>> NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> INTERSECTION LIGHTING.

>> LIGHTING. STREET LIGHTING.

THEN WE HAD A PROJECT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE LIGHTING WENT IN AFTER YEARS, AND THEN ONE GOT HIT FOUR MONTHS AGO, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND THE POLE WAS LIFTED BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN YET FIXED.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THIS HERE IN THIS MEETING HERE, BUT I WANT TO ASK STAFF, WE OUGHT TO SET SOME REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS AND I'M NOT LECTURING STAFF BECAUSE I THINK IT MAY BE SOME OTHER ENTITY.

BUT I WANT TO GET REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS ON CHANGING THE LIGHT.

CAN YOU GET BACK WITH US AND ENGAGE US? BECAUSE THESE LIGHTS WERE PUT IN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

THEY CAN'T LANGUISH FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

NOW, THE ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S GOT AN INTERSECTION.

SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT, BUT WE HAD A RECENT FATALITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF LIGHTING PLAYED A FACTOR, BUT I SURE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING LIGHTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE INVESTMENTS WE MAKE AT INTERSECTIONS.

SO I JUST WANT TO PLEASE STAFF, LET'S MAKE THAT INITIATIVE THAT LIGHTS WHEN THEY FAIL IS A PRIORITY AND ASK US FOR HELP IF THERE'S SOME OBSTACLE YOU NEED TO OVERCOME AND WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT LIGHTS.

WELL, I WOULD SUBMIT THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS THAT WE DID TONIGHT TOOK ACTED ON.

THEY'RE ALL VALID, BUT THEY'RE MORE DAYTIME ACTIONS WERE TAKEN, ALTHOUGH THEY STILL WORK AT NIGHT TIME.

BUT WE OUGHT TO CIRCLE BACK AND BE LOOKING AHEAD, IS THERE CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE OUGHT TO ADD LIGHTING FOR PEDESTRIANS AND TAKE ACTION ON THAT? THAT'S AN OPEN ENDED ASK.

>> OVER THE YEARS, AND THIS GOES BACK TO WHEN MR. KITZEROW, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, WE DID A LOT OF WORK WITH MR. HERNANDEZ AND MR. DRISCOLL BEFORE HIM IN UTILIZING THIS CRASH DATA TO DETERMINE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE IN A LOT OF OUR MAJOR INTERSECTIONS BASED ON CRASH DATA.

SO MANY THINGS INCLUDING LIGHTING AS WELL AS BACK LIGHTING OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, RAISED CURBS, MORE STRIPING, MORE NOTICE COMING UP TO INTERSECTIONS.

THAT'S ONE WE HAD THEN WE CONTINUE TO DO.

SO WE COMMUNICATE REGULARLY, NOT ONLY IN THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF CRASHES, BUT WHEN THINGS GET DAMAGED, WE ALSO NOTIFY HIM.

>> BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S A FUNDING ISSUE, IT BECOMES A PRIORITY THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING HERE.

WE'RE COMMITTED VISION ZERO AND NO FATALITIES AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT BEING RELENTLESS ABOUT IT.

>> SO I WAS AT AN APOE MEETING TODAY AND THAT DISCUSSION CAME UP MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE VERY UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT THAT THE TOWN HAD, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S STILL BEING INVESTIGATED.

BUT PARKSIDE DRIVE IS SEEING AN UPTICK IN TRAFFIC, JUST IT'S BECOMING A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, BUT IT'S NOT DESIGNED, AS THEY SAID, LIKE MILITARY TRAIL.

THAT'S WHAT ONE RESIDENT AT THE MEETING SAID, AND GIVEN THAT'S NOT DESIGNED LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S SEEING MORE VOLUME AND GIVEN THAT WE'RE HEARING THAT VOLUME IS A MAJOR FACTOR IN CRASHES, PERHAPS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

WE DON'T KNOW THE CONDITIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THE ACCIDENT WE HAD.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE LIKE THAT IN THAT AREA IN OVER A DECADE.

BUT FOR LIGHTING, I AGREE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO FOCUS ON LIGHTING.

I NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

I KNOW WE'VE PRIORITIZED TONY PENNA, THE HEIGHTS AND OTHER AREAS.

WE NEED TO LOOK TOWN WIDE AT HOW VOLUMES ARE CHANGING OR INCREASING, AND WHERE WE CAN MAKE AN IMPACT.

[02:25:01]

>> I AGREE. I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM WHERE IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT AND INVOLVED AGAIN.

BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT EYES EVERYWHERE.

WE HAVE CITIZENS EVERYWHERE THAT CAN REPORT PROBLEMS, THEY CAN SEE THEM.

IT'S INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR ACCIDENTS TO HAPPEN, WHICH OUR BEST METRIC RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'D BE BETTER IF WE COULD SEE THEM AHEAD OF TIME AND FIX THE PROBLEM BEFORE THERE'S A FATALITY.

>> THAT'S WHY IT'S SO GREAT TO HAVE IT BE AN AGENDA ITEM SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE NOTICE AND MAKE THOSE COMMENTS, VERSUS MAKING ANY BUDGET DECISIONS TONIGHT.

>> I AGREE.

>> ANYWHERE WHERE YOU HAVE AN INCREASED NUMBER IN EITHER PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, BICYCLE TRAFFIC, VEHICLE TRAFFIC, OR HIGH DENSITY LIGHTING IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A GREAT OPTION.

>> ADMITTEDLY, I MADE THE COMMENT UNINFORMED BASED ON THAT RECENT EVENT.

BUT THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS, CHECK OUT IS THERE LIGHTING? BECAUSE CERTAINLY LIGHTING COULD HAVE HELPED.

JUST IN THAT SPIRIT THAT WE WERE GIVEN SOME GUIDANCE HERE THAT IF IT TURNS OUT, LET'S STEP IT UP ON LIGHTING, IF WE CONCLUDED THAT THAT WOULD HELP.

>> IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU BRING THAT UP BECAUSE LITERALLY JUST I WANT TO SAY IT WAS LAST WEEK, THE CHIEF AND I WERE EXCHANGING EMAILS.

WE GOT A REQUEST TO LOOK AT POSSIBLE ROADWAY AND WHICH HAPPENED TO BE A COUNTY ROADWAY.

BUT TYPICALLY, EVEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING STATISTICALLY WHERE THE POLICE HAVE SOME SORT OF ISSUE WHETHER IT DEALS WITH CRIME OR SOME OTHER ISSUE, THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE WE DO IMPLEMENT ON COUNTY ROADWAYS IN SOME INSTANCES.

THERE ARE ALSO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COLLECTOR ROADWAY LIGHTING PROGRAM, THAT'S AN ONGOING CIP WHICH WAS CREATED MANY YEARS AGO AND IT'S ONGOING.

WE WORK AND WE MEET WITH FPL BASICALLY MONTHLY TO GO OVER NEW DESIGNS, IMPLEMENTING THEM ON VARIOUS ROADWAYS AS YOU MENTIONED HEIGHTS, TONY PENA DRIVE, SEABROOK, AND OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL.

SO WE DO HAVE THAT ONGOING EFFORT TO LIGHT VARIOUS ROADWAYS AND INSTALL LIGHTING ALONG VARIOUS ROADWAYS.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO IT AT THIS MEETING, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN THE CRITERIA THAT LED TO THE PRIORITIZATION OF THOSE ROADS AND THE TIMELINE FOR IT.

>> I THINK THE DIFFERENCE WAS THOUGH TOM, WAS THAT PROGRAM WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND IT MADE SENSE AS THE TOWN PRIORITIZED HIGHER LEVEL ROADWAYS, PERIOD, JUST BY THE NATURE OF THIS MORE TRAFFIC.

SO IT'S THE GRADE OF THE ROAD AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS.

NOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PIVOT HERE BECAUSE NOW IT'S FORGET THE GRADE OF THE ROAD OR IN ADDITION TO THE GRADE OF THE ROAD, ARE THERE LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S MORE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY?

>> THERE WILL BE.

>> THEN IF THERE IS, THEN THOSE WE WOULD WANT TO THINK ABOUT DOING LIGHTING, DROPPING IN THE LIGHT IF THAT WOULD HELP.

>> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND CONSIDERING THE INCREASE IN VOLUME OF PEOPLE ON BICYCLES ON INDIANTOWN ROAD AND THE MAJOR ARTERIES OF THE TOWN, THERE WERE SOME FATALITIES AND CLOSE CALLS.

>> SOME OF THAT, WE DID.

>> YEAH. SO MORE OF AN EXPANSION.

>> THEN I ACTUALLY ADD ONE MORE. I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP FOR STATUS BECAUSE WE'VE ALL BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SAFETY FOR THE RAILROAD TRACK.

WE STILL HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM BRIGHTLINE TO PUT IN SOME FENCING, BUT IT'S NOT INSTALLED YET.

WHEN I GIVE STATUS, I REACHED OUT TO MY CONTACT AND I'M WAITING FOR AN UPDATE.

BUT I HAD HEARD, AND CHIEF SINCE YOU'RE HERE, THAT ONE OR TWO OF OUR OFFICERS HAD PULLED SOMEBODY OFF THE TRACK AND SAVED A LIFE THAT WAS GOING TO COMMIT A SUICIDE ON THE TRACK.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> YEAH. I WANT TO I WAS HEARING THAT WE MAY GET TO HONOR THAT PERSON AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S JUST I'VE BEEN FEARING THAT HAPPENING.

I DO BELIEVE IF SOMEBODY IS SUICIDAL, THAT HAVING A FENCE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ENOUGH DISCOURAGEMENT FOR THE PERSON NOT TO BE ON THE TRACK.

SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO PUSH THAT.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE THOSE EFFORTS, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT PERSON OR THOSE PEOPLE THAT PUT THEIR LIVES AT RISK.

>> WE HAVE IN WE CAN ACTUALLY THAT WAS ONE OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND ONE OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

[02:30:01]

>> THAT'S WHAT I HAD HEARD. I JUST WANT TO [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S BEEN MORE THAN ONE TIME.

>> WHAT'S THAT?

>> IT'S BEEN MORE THAN ONCE.

OVER THE MANY YEARS, WE'VE DONE THAT SEVERAL TIMES.

>> THAT INFORMATION WE CAN USE WE TO INFLUENCE THE FENCE GOING UP, AND I AM BUT NO, THANK YOU.

I WAS STUNNED TO HEAR THAT.

I MEAN NOT STUNNED THAT I KNOW THAT OUR POLICE AND DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT IT WAS JUST DISAPPOINTING TO ME, DISHEARTENING TO THINK WE CAME THAT CLOSE TO A FATALITY. THANK YOU.

>> AWESOME WORK. AWESOME WORK. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. WITH THAT [OVERLAPPING]

>> MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY.

>> KAREN VINCENT.

>> HI, KAREN VINCENT.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO SAY OTHER THAN WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THE BIKES.

BIKES ARE REALLY, REALLY BAD.

WHEN YOU COME TO TURN ONTO A SIDE STREET LIKE UP WHERE THE FPL STATION IS OFF OF INDIANTOWN ROAD, YOU CAN HARDLY SEE SOMEBODY IF THEY'RE ON A BIKE.

THERE IS A LOT OF BIKE TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN, AND THEY LIKE TO CROSS OVER WHERE THE GAS STATION IS COMING ACROSS TO JUPITER BAR GRILL.

OVER THROUGH THAT SECTION OVER THERE.

EVERYBODY LIKES TO DECIDE TO CROSS THE ROAD AT THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW WHY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO DO WITH LIGHTING OR WHAT IN THE INTERSECTIONS OR THE TURN LANES IN ORDER TO HELP FACILITATE THAT.

BUT IT IS A REALLY BAD PROBLEM.

BIKES ARE A BAD PROBLEM.

MY COMMENT TONIGHT WAS TO WORK MORE TOWARDS LIKE HE'S JUST SAID, WHICH WAS EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC.

IT'S NOT JUST THE DRIVERS, IT'S THE BIKES.

A LOT OF THE BIKES DON'T STOP AT STOP SIGNS.

THEY DON'T STOP AT RED LIGHTS.

THEY JUST KEEP GOING RIGHT ON THROUGH.

THEY DON'T PAUSE WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

THEY DON'T PAY ATTENTION FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.

A LOT OF IT IS, I THINK EDUCATION.

I THINK EVERY PERSON THAT'S DRIVING HAS PRETTY MUCH FORGOT DRIVERS IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, I'M PRETTY SURE.

[LAUGHTER] THE OTHER THING IS LAST YEAR OR MAYBE TOWARDS END OF SEASON AT THE INTERSECTIONS LIKE WHERE TD BANK IS, WHERE MAPLEWOOD INTERSECTION, AND A COUPLE OF THE OTHER ONES, THERE ARE BIG SIGNS TO PUT UP.

THE FLASHING SIGNS LIKE WATCH YOUR SPEED LIMIT EXCEPT FOR IT SAID WATCH THE SQUARE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

DON'T BLOCK THE SQUARE.

EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WHEN I GO OUT, IT'S ABSOLUTELY 100% INSANE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE THAT LIGHT'S GREEN, THEY CAN SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INTERSECTION.

THAT LIGHT TURNS RED WHILE THEY'RE STILL SITTING THERE, AND THEN THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THE OTHER CARS TO GO.

MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS MORE EDUCATION, WHETHER IT'S PUTTING THOSE SIGNS BACK OUT BECAUSE I FOUND THAT THEY SEEMED LIKE THEY DID HELP LAST YEAR OR MORE POLICE SUPPORT AT THE INTERSECTIONS DURING THOSE TIMES OF DAY WHEN WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE THAT BAD.

MAYBE IF PERIODICALLY THEY SHOWED UP WITH A TRAFFIC COP THERE AND PEOPLE GOT CITED, THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD STOP DOING THAT.

MAYBE IT MAY TAKE AN EXTREME LIKE THAT.

BUT IT IS SUPER DANGEROUS AND ALL IT DOES IS CREATES MORE TRAFFIC PROBLEM OF EVERYBODY TRYING TO GO IN THERE.

BASICALLY, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY, WAS I REALLY LIKED THE BIG SIGN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

CHIEF, YOU MAY WANT TO MENTION NOW THAT YOU DO HAVE EDUCATION PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP DOING THEM AGAIN BECAUSE PEOPLE.

>> AS I MENTIONED, THE GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVE, INDIANTOWN ROAD, BETWEEN PENNOCK AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS AS AN AREA THAT WE DO A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE YOU DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC THAT CROSSES THE ROAD.

I WANT TO SAY IT IS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, NINE YEARS AGO WE SAW AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FATALITIES OF PEOPLE DOING WHAT'S CALLED MIDBLOCK CROSSINGS, AND WE PUT A LOT OF RESOURCES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.

OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVEN'T HAD AS ANY FATALITIES.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT ALOUD, BUT WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ATTENTION THERE AND HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE RESULTS.

AS FAR AS MAPLEWOOD AND INDIANTOWN ROAD, I DRIVE THROUGH THERE, IT IS CRAZY, BUT THE OFFICERS DO A LOT OF TRAFFIC STOPS OUT THERE AND A LOT OF EDUCATION, AND WHEN APPROPRIATE, YOU WRITE A LOT OF TICKETS OUT THERE.

THIS PERIOD OF TIME OF THE YEAR, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND MARCH IS USUALLY OUR HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOLUME OF TRAFFIC.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT GOES UP WITH TRAFFIC CRASHES AND WHATNOT BECAUSE IT'S SEASONAL.

THEN WHAT YOU SEE IS APRIL, MAY, JUNE THROUGH THE SUMMER IT STARTS TO GO DOWN.

OBVIOUSLY, TRAFFIC IN SCHOOL IS OUT, SO THERE'S LESS CARS ON THE ROAD AND THEN IT COMES BACK UP.

THESE ARE URBAN FLOWS ACCORDING TO THE POPULATION AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DRIVING ON THE ROAD.

[02:35:03]

WE PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION THERE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTIONS.

>> THAT SITUATION ALSO CAUSES A LOT OF ANGER.

I'VE SEEN A HANDFUL OF ROAD RAGE INCIDENTS WHERE PEOPLE JUMP OUT OF THE CAR AND GO RIGHT UP TO THE DRIVER'S WINDOW AND RULE NUMBER 1, DON'T MESS WITH ANYBODY IN A CAR.

YOU COULD HAVE SOME FATALITIES OF VIOLENCE.

IT'S A BAD SITUATION.

>> I'VE LEFT TO WORK 5:00, 5:30, SIX O'CLOCK COMING OUT THERE.

AS SOON AS YOU HIT DANIEL'S AWAY AT STOP AND GO UNTIL YOU GET TO CENTRAL BOULEVARD.

COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> WHAT'S THAT?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THAT'S SOME OF THE ASSETS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE.

WE MOVE AROUND THE TOWN TO ADDRESS A LOT OF CONCERNS.

SO IF IT'S NOT THERE, IT'S BEING USED SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR SOME OTHER COMPLAINT THAT WE'RE RECEIVING EITHER FROM CITIZENS OR OBSERVATIONS FROM OFFICERS OR DATA WE COLLECT, OBSERVATION THROUGH DATA.

>> DO YOU NEED MORE OF THAT EQUIPMENT?

>> YES.

>> THAT'S MONEY WELL SPENT.

>> HOW MANY WOULD YOU LIKE, CHIEF?

>> WE'RE TALKING WITH OUR TRAFFIC UNIT BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT ARE RATHER OLD AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE NEED A COUPLE MORE.

WE'LL BE COLLECTING THAT IN MARCH WHEN WE START DOING OUR BUDGET PREP.

BUT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE DO NEED MORE OF THEM.

>> OKAY.

>> I'D RATHER SOONER THAN LATER.

>> SPEED AS WELL AS VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS TO PROVIDE MESSAGES TOO.

>> OKAY.

>> WELL, IF YOU NEED IT BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, THEN I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE AGENDA COMING UP HERE.

>> I AGREE.

>> I AGREE.

>> SERGEANT GIBBON AND CAPTAIN BUJANASKI WILL BE ON THAT FIRST THING TOMORROW MORNING.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MONEY WELL SPENT?

>> YES, SIR, IT IS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SHORTLY.

>> THANK YOU. REPORTS, COUNTY ATTORNEY.

[TOWN ATTORNEY]

>> JUST LIKE TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON THURSDAY INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE WE'RE IN MEDIATION IN REGARDS TO THE SPERRY PROPERTY MEDIATION.

WE HAD A SESSION LAST WEEK.

WE HAVE ONE COMING UP THE 24TH.

I'D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH EACH OF YOU.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SCHEDULES ARE AVAILABLE FOR ON THURSDAY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY A 10, 15-MINUTE CONVERSATION ABOUT STATUS OF THINGS. YOU'RE WORKING?

>> NO.

>> OKAY.

>> I'M AVAILABLE.

>> THAT'S IT.

>> OKAY. COUNTY MANAGER.

[TOWN MANAGER]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS BUILDING IS REMARKABLE AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THE COUNCIL HAS GIVEN AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF THE STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE IT GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE.

I THINK THEY WERE WORKING MIDNIGHT SHIFTS AND EVERYTHING TO GET IT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

IT'S JUST REALLY BEEN TRULY A TEAM EFFORT.

I KNOW NIKKI'S BACK THERE AND SHE SPEARHEADED A LOT OF THIS, THE MOVE, AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.

WE KEPT THE TOWN HALL OPEN AND SERVICES MOVING AND SO EVEN WHILE WE WERE MOVING, WE DIDN'T MISS A BEAT.

KUDOS TO THE STAFF ON THIS.

I COULDN'T BE ANY MORE PROUD OF THEM.

JUST A REMINDER, IS IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ALREADY GOING ON, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING.

REMEMBER THAT ON FEBRUARY 3RD IS THE JUPITER JUBILEE, ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK.

WE'RE EXCITED TO KEEP THAT MOVING FORWARD.

COUNCILOR MAY, I GOT YOUR EMAIL ON THE MAPLEWOOD PARK AND WE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

SO FOLLOWED UP ON THAT.

I'M GOING TO KEEP IT VERY BRIEF.

THAT'S IT, BECAUSE I KNOW THESE FOLKS ARE ANXIOUS TO GO HOME.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU.

[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]

>> COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM.

>> QUICKLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY ON THE MINUTES, I MAKE A LOT OF EDITS TO THE MINUTES AND HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT.

I THINK ONE THING I HAVE NOTICED A CHANGE AS WELL, BUT I ATTRIBUTE IT MOSTLY TO LAURA K HILL, OUR CLERK BEING ON MATERNITY LEAVE, AND JUST THE CHANGE.

FOR THOSE RESIDENTS WHO DON'T KNOW, WHEN WE WORK TO EDIT THE MINUTES OR REVIEW THEM, THAT IS PUT TOGETHER WITH THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW.

I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THE LAST SET OF MINUTES WERE TOO LONG.

I WAS TRYING FOUR PAGES.

I HOPE I DON'T TALK THAT MUCH, BUT FOUR PAGES FOR MY COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE NIGHT WAS ROUGH.

WE'RE WORKING TO CONDENSE THAT AND EDIT IT AND JUST WORK OUT DIFFERENT STYLE CHANGES.

BUT I'M AWARE OF THAT.

[LAUGHTER] THE UNIVERSITY AND PARKSIDE THAT I HAD SPOKEN WITH J PD,

[02:40:07]

I DID GET SOME GREAT RESIDENT INPUT FROM THE APOA, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LIGHTING AND CROSSINGS AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY JUST WITH WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT HOW VOLUMES ARE CHANGING AND TRAFFIC IS CHANGING IN THE TOWN OVER TIME WITH REGARDS TO EBIKES.

MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS EARLIER, BUT I WAS THINKING THROUGH AS WE WERE TALKING.

ONE POINT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING IS, WHAT ARE THE CURRENT RULES ON THE BOOKS WITH REGARDS TO EBIKES IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY CAN GO IN COMMERCIAL AREAS, RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THESE DIFFERENT ZONES.

IT WOULD BE NICE FOR ME TO KNOW THAT, BUT ALSO TO HELP EDUCATE RESIDENTS AND DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.

BUT ALSO, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO? I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THEY LOOK AT IS THERE ANY MODE OF TRAVEL OTHER THAN WALKING ON SIDEWALKS IN COMMERCIAL ZONES.

I'M JUST CURIOUS AND LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT ZONING DESIGNATIONS, THE DIFFERENT RULES ON THE BOOKS, AND IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SOME MUNICIPALITIES, I THINK HAVE EBIKE ORDINANCES.

THERE'S A LOT TO CONSIDER.

IT SHOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM.

THERE SHOULD BE A LOT OF INPUT PARTICULARLY, SINCE SO MANY RESIDENTS USE THEM FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

I HAVE A FRIEND WHO ACTUALLY USES ONE TO TAKE HIS CHILD TO SCHOOL.

IT'S A GREAT COMMUTING TOOL THERE.

YOU SEE THEM IN DIFFERENT CONTEXTS.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT TO THAT FOR NOW.

ONE LAST THING, EXCELLENT RIBBON CUTTING TODAY.

WONDERFUL EVENT.

SO GREAT TO START THE NEW YEAR THIS WAY.

THANK YOU STAFF.

>> VICE MAYOR.

>> IT'S BEEN A SPECIAL DAY.

THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

IT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY, TOLD SOME FOLKS THAT WE WERE AT THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THIS PLACE, AND WITH ALL THAT'S GOING ON THIS YEAR, IT'S JUST REMARKABLE THAT IT CAME IN ON TIME AND ON BUDGET.

I WANT TO ESPECIALLY POINT OUT CARL, BECAUSE EVERY TIME I WAS IN THE OLD TOWN HALL, YOU WERE RUNNING AROUND, GOING NEXT DOOR AND GETTING THIS PLACE DONE.

TOWN MANAGER, I WANT TO THANK MIKE VOLALA.

I THANK EVERYBODY BUT MIKE OVERSAW THE PROJECT AND THEN ROGER TOOK OVER, AND SCOTT IN FINANCE, AND JUST EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

JUST AMAZING JOB, PLACE IS GORGEOUS, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE THE REST OF THE ARTWORK GO UP AND SPENDING SOME MORE TIME IN HERE.

OTHER THAN THAT, I'LL CUT IT SHORT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU FOLKS ARE TIRED. I AM TOO.

>> COUNSEL MAY.

>> NOT JUST ADD TO THAT JUST THE RIBBON CUTTING AND EVERYTHING WAS GREAT AND THE TOWN HALL LOOKS AMAZING STAFF, YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD SOME GROWING PAINS TRYING TO MOVE EVERYTHING OVER HERE IN THE TIME FRAME THAT YOU HAD TO BUT EVERYTHING TURNED OUT GREAT AND LOOKS GREAT.

JUST REAL QUICK, I DO SUPPORT SOME E-BIKE ORDINANCE.

I ALMOST HIT TWO KIDS YESTERDAY IN CHASEWOOD PLAZA.

THEY'RE JUST ZOOMING AROUND, SO I THINK WE NEED TO CRACK DOWN ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST GETTING A LITTLE TOO OUT OF CONTROL, AND THESE BIKES ARE A LOT FASTER THAN PEOPLE REALIZE.

BUT I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF AS WELL BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYONE WANTS TO GO HOME.

>> COUNSEL FORE.

>> CHIEF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK A BICYCLE ON A ROADWAY HAS TO ADHERE TO ALL 316.

IT HAS TO ADHERE TO ALL MOTOR VEHICLE LAWS IF IT'S ON THE ROADWAY.

>> CORRECT. WHEN A BICYCLE IS OPERATING IN A MOTOR VEHICLE PATH, IT HAS TO ABIDE BY ALL THE STATUTES ASSOCIATED WITH MOTOR VEHICLES.

HOWEVER, WHEN IT'S ON THE SIDEWALK, IT HAS TO FOLLOW ALL THE REGULATIONS OF A PEDESTRIAN.

THE ISSUE IS PEOPLE GET CONFUSED BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO OPERATE A BIKE IN A ROAD AND THEY THINK THEY CAN JUST BUZZ RIGHT THROUGH A STOP SIGN OR BUZZ RIGHT THROUGH A RED LIGHT.

THAT'S WHERE WE DO A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL INTERACTIONS; TRAFFIC STOPS AND YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE, SPECIFICALLY, THE KIDS.

AS FAR AS THE E-BIKES, IN FLORIDA STATUTE ARE REGULATED THE EXACT SAME AS BICYCLES REGARDING THE BICYCLE AND THE OPERATOR.

THERE'S NO SPECIFIC ORDINANCES OR LAWS ASSOCIATED JUST WITH ELECTRONIC BICYCLES VERSUS A REGULAR HUMAN-POWERED BICYCLE.

>> THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THEY TAKE ANY TYPE OF COURSE BEFORE THEY RIDE A BIKE ON THE ROADWAY.

THEY DON'T KNOW THE LAWS, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T CROSS MID-BLOCK, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO STOP FOR LIGHTS.

THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF IGNORANCE ON THE BICYCLING POPULATION. THEY WERE TAKING CLASSES.

>> I SAW ONE DOING A WHEELIE DOWN TONEY PENNA TODAY IN FRONT OF JERRY THOMAS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOING LIKE 25 MILES AN HOUR JUST ALL THE WAY DOWN.

>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT. [OVERLAPPING].

>> IT'S YOU ON INDIAN CREEK.

>> I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

>> ALL GOOD.

>> I ALSO WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THIS FANTASTIC FACILITY,

[02:45:01]

I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT SO I CAN JUST GLOAT OVER IT AND IT'S JUST GREAT.

I'M LOOKING AT THAT AS A RESIDENT, NOT AS A COUNSELOR.

VERY COOL. WELL DONE.

EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH IT THIS IS REALLY COOL.

THE FACT THAT IT'S UNDER BUDGET MAKES ME ECSTATIC.

UNDER BUDGET AND ON TIME AS A CONTRACTOR ENGINEER, I RARELY HEAR THAT.

THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN CHANGE ORDERS THROUGH THIS AND IT STILL WAS ON TIME AND IN BUDGET SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. TODAY WAS A GREAT DAY.

I'M HONORED TO BE WITH YOU GUYS AND MADAM ON THIS BOARD.

THIS IS SOMETHING AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

I WOULD WANT TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING YOU SAID, MELISSA THAT YOU WANTED TO CUT BACK ON YOUR COMMENT SECTION, THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE FOUR PAGES. I DISAGREE.

EVERY WORD YOU SAY, IF WE CAN GET IT WRITTEN DOWN ON A FORM, IT INFORMS THE PUBLIC OF OUR THINKING PROCESS AND YOU'RE VERY GOOD AT ARTICULATING THE PROCESS.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOUR COMMENTS CUT BACK AT ALL.

>> THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER].

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. BUT AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ALL DID IN MAKING THIS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.

>> TO ADD ON THAT, EVERYBODY CAN JUST WATCH THE MINUTES ON VIDEO AND REALLY GET ALL THE TRUE CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION.

>> THAT'S TRUE, BUT YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES.

>> I KNOW.

>> IF YOU COULD GET FOUR PAGES OF REALLY GOOD QUICK SUMMARIZATION OF WHAT IT WAS.

>> WHO DOESN'T WANT TWO HOURS AND 46 MINUTES [LAUGHTER] OF TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT?

>> ENGINEERS.

>> WHAT'S MORE EXCITING? [LAUGHTER].

>> IT'S FUN FOR ENGINEERS.

>> TWO QUICK ITEMS. ONE, THIS IS, I'M GOING TO SAY IT GENERICALLY BUT TAKE THE CAT ISSUE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF IN DEALING WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS WITH THE CODE AND CODE COMPLIANCE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S LOOPHOLES FOR THIS STUFF.

THEN, OF COURSE, WE HEAR ABOUT IT AND WE KNOW THAT STAFF WAS TRYING HIS BEST FOR A YEAR BUT I JUST WANT TO SUGGEST, BECAUSE HERE WE HAD PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE SUGGESTING CODE CHANGES AND THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T JUMP TO THAT IS BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CODE, BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY SEEMS WRONG.

ALWAYS KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE BOTH HERE AND THOSE OTHER ISSUES WE KNOW ABOUT, THAT IT JUST TAKES FOREVER AND NEIGHBORS SUFFER.

AGAIN, I'M JUST OPEN-ENDED TO ASK PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT COME TO US ON A CODE CHANGE IF A CODE CHANGE WOULD FACILITATE HAVING PEOPLE NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH HELL.

>> MAYOR, LAST YEAR WE HAD AN ISSUE.

IT WASN'T CATS, IT WAS A HOME ODOR AND THE HOUSE WAS DETERIORATING.

WAS IT GARBAGE?

>> YES.

>> THERE WAS THE SAME. IT DIDN'T GET TO US TILL IT HAD GONE NUCLEAR STOPPED AND EVERYTHING THEY COULD DO AND ALL THAT.

>> BUT THE LAW PROTECTS.

LIKE WHAT WE GOT TONIGHT IS THESE CATS WERE NOT YOUR COMMUNITY CATS.

LET'S WORD IT A DIFFERENT WAY IF SOMEONE'S FOUND A LOOPHOLE HERE, NOT COMMUNITY CATS.

FORTY OF THEM? AGAIN, I'M NOT FINDING ANY FAULT WITH ANYTHING STAFF HAS DONE.

I'M JUST SUGGESTING WE'LL MAKE A CODE CHANGE IF THAT WOULD HELP THE SITUATION.

THAT'S ALL I'M JUST SAYING.

DON'T ASSUME THAT WE WOULDN'T. WE WANT TO.

>> MAYOR, IF I COULD EVERY WEDNESDAY AFTER A COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAVE MANAGEMENT TEAM MEETING, AND WE GO OVER EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED HERE.

WE GO OVER ALL THE SITS AND COMMENTS, COUNSEL'S DIRECTIONS, THE CHALLENGES.

TOMORROW MORNING, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE AND THE STAFF IS NOT SHY ABOUT BRINGING FORWARD SOLUTIONS USING THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE.

IF WE NEED CODE CHANGES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, WE'RE NOT SHY ABOUT BRINGING THAT FORWARD BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT WE CONSTANTLY MEET.

>> I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT, BUT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC IS SOME THAT WERE SAYING THIS HAS BEEN RAISED A YEAR AGO.

THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY MORE SPEAKING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

THEN JUST IN CLOSING, I WANT TO JUST TALK, NOT TO SPEND MORE THAN A MINUTE OR TWO HERE ABOUT THE NEW TOWN HALL, THE OCCUPANCY, THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY.

IF SOMEONE ASKED ME BEFORE TONIGHT'S MEETING, YOU HAVE YOUR WORDS, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD PUT IT INTO WORDS.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I OBSERVED THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY TEAM EFFORT BY OUR STAFF FOR A YEAR. IT'S INCREDIBLE.

GETTING READY TO MOVE, GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER, AND WHATEVER AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT TEAM EFFORT, AND I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT OUR STAFF RECOGNIZES HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM

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I THINK THIS FACILITY IS MORE SUITED TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC IN IT.

I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

WE CAN NAME NAMES, BUT I'M NOT SURE EVERY SINGLE STAFF PERSON, FOR EXAMPLE, DIDN'T HAVE SOME ROLE AND THAT'S FROM OUR TOWN MANAGER, ALL THE LEADERSHIP, DOWN TO THE PEOPLE DOING THE THING.

YOU DON'T MAKE A MOVE LIKE THIS AS RELATIVELY SEAMLESS AS IT WAS WITHOUT AN INCREDIBLE EFFORT.

I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU TO ALL.

>> THE TOWN'S LIKE A BIG SHIP AND HE'S OUR RADAR AND YOU'RE AN EXCELLENT RADAR.

>> I'VE BEEN CALLED A LOT OF THINGS [OVERLAPPING]

>> YOU'VE BEEN CALLED THE RADAR, BEEN CALLED A LOT OF THINGS.

>> YOU'RE KEEPING US ON TRACK.

IT'S A ROUGH SEE BUT YOU'RE KEEPING US ON TRACK.

>> WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW 9:51. WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.