[Call to Order]
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>> GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 6:31 AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN OF JUPITER COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING FOR DECEMBER 11TH.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL?
>> VICE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BURRITO?
>> COMMISSIONER ATTORNEY BAIRD?
>> THANK YOU. WE MAY HAVE SOME JOINING US IN PROGRESS.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
BUT HAVING A FORUM OF STORAGE CITIZEN COMMENTS.I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE SOME CITIZEN COMMENTS.
>> I'M JUST SPEAKING BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL TO INQUIRE ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT ON A1A IN BEACH ROAD.
THIS PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO START A LONG TIME AGO.
STARTED, STOPPED, STARTED AGAIN AND WE'RE SURROUNDED WITH ORANGE CONES.
WHEN WE CALL THE TOWN COUNT, WHEN WE CALL THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE, [INAUDIBLE], WE WERE TOLD, WELL, THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH I PRESUME UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THAT WERE A PROBLEM AND WE HIRED A CONSULTANT.
THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE ENTIRE PROJECT BEFORE IT STARTED.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY SCREW UP.
YOU CAN HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT DOESN'T DO HIS JOB, BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE.
I KNOW JOAN AND I HELPED WITH THE BRIDGE.
I KNOW THAT THEY WERE GIVEN A TIME LIMIT AND IF THEY COMPLETED IT ON TIME, THEY WILL GET A BONUS.
WELL, THEY WORKED DAY AND NIGHT.
I'M NOT ASKING DAY AND NIGHT, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS WHO HAS CONTROL OF THE PROJECT AND WHY IS IT NOT WORKING? THANK YOU.
>> WE KNOW CAN ONLY COMMENT, BUT WE'RE AS ANXIOUS FOR PROGRESS TO HAPPEN ON THAT ROAD IS AS THE PUBLIC IS.
WE'LL ASK STAFF TO GET US ALL IN UPDATING.
WHO WILL SAY THAT WITH REGARD TO THE COMMENT ABOUT UNDERGROUND IT MAY BE THE CASE SOMEBODY MISSED IT, BUT THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO TRY TO DO IT AND EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE AT FAULT, WE NOW HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A DISCOVERY OF UNDERGROUND.
GRATEFULLY, BUT WE'LL GET A STATUS UPDATE.
LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT VICE-CHAIR RANDALL ANY JOINED US AND THAT WAS IT.
[1. November 21, 2023 Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting Minutes.]
>> COMMISSION WE HAVE BEFORE US THE MENACE OF THE NOVEMBER 21ST CRA MEETING BECAUSE THEN THERE'S NO REVISIONS TO THAT.
IF NOT, LET'S TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[2. CRA Plan Amendment discussion on the potential goals and priorities of the CRA]
MOVING ON TO THE ROUND-TABLE, THE CRA PLAN AMENDMENT DISCUSSION.>> HI, GOOD EVENING. STEPHANIE THORBURN.
I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL, WHICH THE CRA APPROVED THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT BACK IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL WAS SET UP TO PROVIDE PLANNING ASSISTANCE TO MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE.
THEY WERE SET UP OVER 50 YEARS AGO.
THIS IS PART OF THEIR WHEELHOUSE, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO HELP WITH COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES.
DR. KIM DELANEY IS THE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT AND POLICY FOR THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL, AND SHE PROVIDES STATEWIDE RESOURCES FOR LAND USE, PLANNING, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT, TRANSPORTATION, NATURAL RESOURCES, ECONOMICS, AND PUBLIC OUTREACH.
SHE HAS MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH MUNICIPALITIES SUCH AS OURSELVES.
SHE IS A NATIVE OF NORTHERN PALM BEACH COUNTY, ALSO PREVIOUSLY LIVED IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER WITH DEGREES FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA OF NOTE, FAU, WHICH SHE SPECIFICALLY WORKED ON COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY,
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BALANCING COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC PRIORITIES AS PART OF HER THESIS.WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME DR. DELANEY FOR THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
BEFORE WE START, I JUST WANT TO ASK, THIS ROUND TABLES ARE ALWAYS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT.
THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE DID WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ONE?
>> BECAUSE IT'S HARD ON THE ROUND TABLE.
I WOULD HAVE HAD THEM INVITE THEM UP FOR SO GO AHEAD.
>> SURE. ABSOLUTELY. THANKS FOR THE INVITATION.
FOR THE RECORD, KIM DELANEY FROM TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
BRIEF PRESENTATION REALLY, JUST TO FOSTER YOUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT ON THE PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH US PRIOR TO SO THAT WE TRIED TO HONE THE PRESENTATION TO COVER ALL THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BOARD.
TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION IS INTENDED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE PLAN HOLISTICALLY WITH YOU AS A BOARD TO HELP US NARROW THE FOCUS OF DISCUSSION, TO BE READY FOR A SET OF MORE IN-DEPTH PUBLIC WORKSHOPS THAT WILL BEGIN IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.
JUST A BRIEF BACKGROUND, NOT AS MUCH FOR THE BOARD, BUT REALLY FOR THE PUBLIC.
OF COURSE, THE CRA WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2002 AND IT WAS ESTABLISHED AT A TIME WHERE THERE WERE DIFFERENT REDEVELOPMENT NEEDS IN THE TOWN.
YOU HAD DIFFERENT CONDITIONS IN 2002.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT WHEN WE WORK WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN RE-DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT RE-DEVELOPMENT IS DYNAMIC.
THERE AREN'T STATIC CONDITIONS.
IF YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AS THE CRA, WHICH THIS AREA IS REALLY REGARDED AS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ONES, IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE FOCUS OF A PLANNING EFFORT, LIKE REDEVELOPMENT MIGHT CHANGE OVER TIME, MIGHT EVOLVE OVER TIME.
YOU KNOW MORE AS A TOWN NOW ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WORK WELL IN THE 400-ACRE DISTRICT THAT MAKES UP THE CRA AND THE AREAS WHERE YOU MIGHT NEED TO SHIFT YOUR INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS AN AGENCY, THINGS ABOUT SPECIFIC PROPERTIES THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
I'M IN 2002 WHEN THE AGENCY WAS FORMED.
SO THIS UPDATE PROCESS IS JUST THE NATURAL EVOLUTION OF AGENCIES THAT WE SEE WHEN WE WORK WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AGAIN, WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE A CHANCE TO HELP THE TOWN THROUGH ITS CONVERSATION.
AGAIN, THE CRA IS ABOUT 400 ACRES, ABOUT 250 ACRES OF UPLAND.
THE MAP ON THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE BOUNDARY IN RED, WHICH RUNS FROM THE INLET TO THE SOUTH. HERE WE GO.
THE CRA HAS HAD LOTS OF SUCCESSES IN ITS 22-YEAR HISTORY AND SO THIS MAP ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WERE IDENTIFIED WHEN THIS AREA WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED.
THE MOST NOTABLE PROJECTS AND REALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE BECOME REGIONAL IN NATURE OR IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THE RIVER WALK, WHICH CREATES WATERFRONT ACCESS ALONG THE BANKS OF THE INTERCOSTAL, OF THE THINGS TO NOTE, MOST OF MOST RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN DON'T HAVE DIRECT WATERFRONT ACCESS.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT CREATES A RECREATIONAL AMENITY AND PUBLIC ACCESS POINT TO NOT JUST YOUR RESIDENTS, OF COURSE, BUT ON A LARGER SCALE.
ON ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS LIKE SHORELINES, STABILIZATION, AND LAND ACQUISITION A HALLMARK OF THE CRA ACTIVITY OVER TIME.
THE A1A CORRIDOR AND CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS FOR YOU THIS EVENING AS A BOARD.
BUT THE A1A CORRIDOR HAS HAD LOTS OF IMPROVEMENT FOR MOBILITY AND FOR ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY AS WELL.
THERE'S BEEN LAND ACQUISITION.
THIS AREA IS UNDERTAKEN HELPING TO CREATE A PUBLIC PARKING LOT, THE PIATT PLACE PROPERTY WHICH GIVES YOU DIFFERENT REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND THE INLET VILLAGE MARINA ARE SAMPLES OF THOSE. I'M SORRY, MAYOR.
>> PIATT PLACE WASN'T ACQUIRED FROM CRA SO FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION, WE INVOLVE THE PUBLIC IF YOU COULD DELETE THAT ONE.
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE MARKET HAS RESPONDED HEAVILY AND EAGERLY TO THE DESTINATION THAT THE CRA HAS HELPED REALLY CLARIFY.
THERE'S BEEN A VARIETY OF IMPROVEMENTS LIKE GUANABANAS HARBOR SIDE AND LOVE STREET.
THE CRA UPDATE ALSO GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER ALIGN YOUR PLAN WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THE TOWN HAS CONTINUED TO EVOLVE OVER TIME.
AGAIN, AS WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THE DISTRICT, AS CONDITIONS BECOME MORE CLEAR GOING FORWARD.
THIS AREA PLAN UPDATE PROCESS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER DIFFERENTLY THINGS LIKE PROTECTING LOCAL SEAGRASSES; EMPHASIZING AREAS OF LOCAL IMPORTANCE; PROMOTING MUSIC AND THE ARTS; ADDRESSING DERELICT VESSELS WHICH IS MENTIONED IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN; CONSIDERING PROPERTY ACQUISITION OPPORTUNITIES, AGAIN, WHICH HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME; AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE NEW US 1 BRIDGE,
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WHICH GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALIGN THE RIVER WALK A CENTRAL COMPONENT ALONG THE BRIDGE WHEN IT'S COMPLETED.THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THE PARALLEL OF FLOOD LEGISLATION IMPACTS, TO CONSIDER SHORELINE STABILIZATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES IN A MORE REFINED MANNER.
THE PLAN UPDATE PROCESS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT, AGAIN, AS THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED AND THE PRIORITIES OF THE TOWN HAVE EVOLVED, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT SHOULD REMAIN IN THE PLAN? ARE THERE THINGS YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING OUT? ARE THERE NEW PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT TO ADD IN? THE KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS WE'VE BEEN DOING DUE DILIGENCE WITH YOUR STAFF AND WITH YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS ARE THINGS LIKE CONSIDERING THE GAPS AND THE RIVERWALK AND THE PRIORITY ON IN CLOSING THOSE GAPS.
PERHAPS THE OXBOW CROSSING IN THE RIVERWALK FROM BURT REYNOLDS PARK ACROSS TO THE NORTHERN SIDE.
RIVERWALK MITIGATION, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE SHORELINE STABILIZATION AND SEAGRASS IMPROVEMENTS.
PERHAPS THE INLET VILLAGE MARINA, AND PROPERTIES WITHIN THOSE AREAS THAT MAY NEED TO BE EMPHASIZED AND PERHAPS OTHER PRIORITIES AS WELL.
OF THE NEW INFORMATION THAT REALLY IS BEEN EVOLVING AS WE'VE BEGUN OUR PLAN PROCESS WITH YOU, IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS SOME TRAIL FUNDING, WHICH IS NEW FUNDING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE RIVERWALK TO BE EXTENDED AND COMPLETED THROUGH THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THERE WERE PRIOR ALIGNMENTS IDENTIFIED THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE RED, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE MAP THAT'S ON THE SCREEN.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY INSTEAD TO EITHER SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACE THOSE ALIGNMENTS WITH RIVERWALK IMPROVEMENTS ALONG US1, POTENTIALLY INCLUDING PIKE PLACE, AND ALSO INTEGRATE THE NEW JUPITER FEDERAL BRIDGE, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
IN ADDITION, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THE RIVERWALK ALIGNMENT, WHICH IS REALLY THE SUN TRAIL ENLIGHTENMENT.
APOLOGIZE FOR THE CHALLENGES IN TERMINOLOGY.
THE RIVERWALK IS ELIGIBLE AS A COMPONENT OF THE STATES SUN TRAIL NETWORK, WHICH IS THE SHARED USE NETWORK IN THE STATE THAT IS A PREMIUM BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.
THAT SUN TRAIL ALIGNMENT CAN BE EXTENDED NORTH OF THE BRIDGE TO THE NORTHERN TOWN LIMITS, WHICH IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING STATE FUNDING AND TO COMPLEMENT THE INVESTMENT IN THE CRA.
AND SO WITH THAT BACKGROUND, THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A LIST OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN TODAY.
THIS IS THE SAME LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED INDIVIDUALLY TO BOARD MEMBERS IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, AND SO WE WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK FOR A PUBLIC DISCUSSION TONIGHT TO GET INPUT FROM THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PRIORITIES FOR THE AGENCY.
THOSE PROJECTS THAT SHOULD REMAIN AS PRIORITY, PERHAPS THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT WE MAY WANT TO TAKE OUT THE PLAN BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED THEM ANY LONGER, AND IF THERE ARE ANY NEW PROJECTS THAT WE SHOULD BE ADDING INTO THIS AREA PLAN.
THERE ARE A FEW SLIDES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
I'LL GO SLOWLY BECAUSE THERE'S A BIT OF TEXTS ON THESE SLIDES INTENDED FOR DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC TO INFORM THOSE PRIORITIES.
THE ORDERING IS MAINTAINED AS IT'S REPRESENTED IN THE PLAN TODAY, JUST SO THERE'S CONSISTENCY BETWEEN YOUR CURRENT DOCUMENT AND THE DOCUMENT THAT MAY BE REVISED AS WE GO FORWARD.
THE FIRST PAGE REALLY INCLUDES MOSTLY RIVERWALK FOCUSED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE RIVERWALK WAS BROKEN INTO A SERIES OF SEGMENTS.
MANY OF THE SEGMENTS HAD BEEN COMPLETED.
THE PLAN TALKS ABOUT ADDING SOME GATEWAY FEATURES IN KEY LOCATIONS; ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
TO THE BENEFIT OF THE BOARD, IF IT'S OKAY, I'M JUST GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE PACKAGE OR PROJECTS AND THEN JOIN YOUR STAFF AT THE TABLE FOR YOUR ROUND-TABLE DISCUSSION, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
I SEE NODDING HEADS, SO I'LL JUST TRY TO DO THAT.
OF COURSE, THE TOWN HAS COMPLETED THE RIVER PLAZA CONNECTION AND THE EVENTS PLAZA.
THE PLAN DOES TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF A WATER TAXI.
ONE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT PERHAPS WE KNOW MORE ABOUT NOW THAN WE DID THEN.
SECOND PAGE INCLUDES ANOTHER SERIES OF PROJECTS RELATED AGAIN TO THE RIVERWALK, THE HARBOR SIDE SEGMENT BEING COMPLETED, ALL BUT THE EYE CENTER PROPERTY.
THE RIVERWALK, WAS FOCUSED INITIALLY ON THE IDEA OF ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION, BUT ALSO ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A COMPONENT OF THAT AREA OF WORK.
AT BURT REYNOLDS PARK, AGAIN, THE IDEA OF AN OXBOW BRIDGE OR FERRY CONNECTION GOING ACROSS FROM BURT REYNOLDS PARK TO THE NORTHERN SIDE IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN IN THE PLAN SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
THE ADDITIONAL PIECES OF RIVERWALK AT INLET VILLAGE ARE TRICKIER TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S THERE NOW,
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BUT COMPLETING THE RIVERWALK ALONG THAT SECTION, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CRA.AT INLET VILLAGE, THE A1A ROADWAY ENHANCEMENTS, WE TOUCHED ON THOSE, UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
HOPEFULLY NEARING COMPLETION IN THE EARLY PART OF NEXT YEAR.
CONTINUING WITH THE INLET VILLAGE, THE PLAN INITIALLY IDENTIFIED SOME ROADWAY NETWORK IMPROVEMENTS TO MAINTAIN THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK WITHIN THE INLET VILLAGE ON A1A, A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING IDENTIFIED AT BURT REYNOLDS PARK TO TAKE YOU ACROSS WHAT WOULD BE THAT OXBOW EXTENSION NORTH TOWARDS LOVE STREET.
THERE IS THE IDEA OF PUBLIC BOAT DOCKING IN THE RIVERWALK, AND THAT INCLUDES THE PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO GUANABANAS THAT CURRENTLY IS THE INLET MARINA VILLAGE CONTINUING WITH PROJECT NUMBER 15 AND THE UPLAND ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROPERTY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS OR FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT CAN TAKE PLACE ON THE UPLAND.
THE PLAN IDENTIFIED A PROJECT NUMBER 16, THE US1 SCENIC CORRIDOR THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED.
BUT THE LIGHTHOUSE PROMINENT AT THE RIVERWALK AND OUTSTANDING OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT IMPROVEMENT.
THE INLET VILLAGE PARKING GARAGE IDEA WAS DE-EMPHASIZED BY THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY.
SO THAT'S SHOWN AS A STRUCK THROUGH IMPROVEMENT NOT TO BE CONTINUED IN THE PLAN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
NUMBER 19 TALKS ABOUT THE LOVE STREET TEMPORARY SURFACE LOT THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED.
NUMBER 20, DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE WITHIN THE CRA ALSO COMPLETED, AND THE FIRST PART OF THE OXBOW BRIDGE.
I'M SORRY, THAT YOU ARE WHITE FLAGGING. AM I OKAY? I THOUGHT YOU WERE WAVING FOR ME TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THE FIRST PART OF THE OXBOW BRIDGE BEING COMPLETED, BUT THAT SECOND PART, SWITCHBACKS THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AT BURT REYNOLDS PARK TO TAKE YOU OVER OR ONE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT REMAIN OUTSTANDING.
THE FIRST UNION BANK PROPERTY, PART OF THE HARBOR SIDE PROJECT COMPLETED, BUT OUTSTANDING IMPROVEMENTS.
PIATT PLACE, WHAT MAY OCCUR ON THAT SITE, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL FOR A RIVERWALK SEGMENT ALONG THE EDGE.
OUTSTANDING AS WELL OR ADDITIONAL SUN TRAIL SEGMENTS, POTENTIALLY.
ALONG US1 TO AUGMENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD TAKE PLACE IN BURT REYNOLDS PARK.
THOSE ARE THE ARRAY OF CAPITAL PROJECTS, AGAIN, THAT ARE IN THE PLAN TODAY, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE RIVERWALK SEGMENTS AS A POTENTIAL NEW PROJECT THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED JUST IN THE DUE DILIGENCE DISCUSSIONS.
AND SO WITH THAT OVERVIEW AND AGAIN, GOING TO JOIN YOUR STAFF AT THE TABLE, THE QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT, ARE WHAT ARE THE NEAR-TERM PRIORITIES THE CRA SHOULD FOCUS ON MAYBE IN THE NEXT 1-5 YEARS OR SO? AND THEN BEYOND THAT, WHAT ARE THE LONGER-TERM PRIORITIES? SHOULD ANYTHING ELSE BE ADDED TO THE PLAN? AND THEN RELATED TO THAT, ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD SHIFT AWAY FROM? I'M GOING TO JOIN JOHN AT THE TABLE IF THAT'S OKAY.
>> WELL, JUST A QUESTION IS CAN REFRAME TONIGHT.
HOW MANY YEARS ARE LEFT ON THE CRA AS IT IS?
THE WAY THIS PROCESS WORKED, FOR MY COLLEAGUES IN THE PUBLIC IS EACH ONE OF US INDIVIDUALLY MET WITH STAFF AND A CONSULTANT TO GIVE HER INPUT NOW, WE'RE NOW IN THE SUNSHINE TALKING ABOUT IT.
EACH ONE OF US DID GIVE SOME INPUT.
I THINK THAT MAYBE IF WE KEEP IT BRIEF, A GOOD STARTING POINT, RATHER THAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE.
WE HAVE 10 YEARS LEFT IN THE CRA.
I KNOW THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IT COULD BE EXTENDED, BUT MY VIEW WAS ASSUMING THAT IT ONLY GOES TO 2034, THEN I WAS PRIORITIZING WHAT DO WE WORK ON IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO BE THE LIMIT.
I FRAMED THREE AREAS THAT I FELT WERE IMPORTANT.
THEN IT REALLY DEPENDS WHERE THIS FUNDING LEFT.
I FRAMED, NUMBER 1 SET THIS, FOR ALL THE YEARS OF THIS CRA THAT THE RIVERWALK INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN IT GETS TURNED OUT, WHEN THE CRA SUNSETS THAT IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION,
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DO SOME FUNDING TO MAINTAIN THAT AT THE TAIL END OF THIS, SO NOT A TOWN DOESN'T INHERIT A BUNCH OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN DESPERATE NEED OF MAINTENANCE.THAT WAS NUMBER ONE. THEN, I FELT THAT TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY WERE IMPORTANT ALSO.
ONE WAS PIED PLACE, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENDING THE CRA WITH SOME GOOD USE DECIDED FOR THAT PROPERTY, AND THEN SUNNI SANS, I DO BELIEVE THAT'S A PIECE FOR ME.
WITH THAT, THOSE ARE BIG ITEMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR ME FELT BELOW THAT.
I WANT TO BE CAREFUL GOING THROUGH IT HERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO COME UP WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF IDEAS TO SPEND WHEN IT EXCEEDS THE MONEY WE HAVE.
I'LL GO TO MY WHICHEVER COLLEAGUE WANTS TO GO NEXT.
IF YOU WANT TO SHARE ON THAT ONE ITEM.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO DRIVE IT WHAT I SAID, BUT LET ME GO BACK.
IF I SAY I'M NOT REALLY THAT THEN PUSHES STUFF DOWN THE LIST.
WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER IS, WE'RE REALLY UPDATING THE CRA PLAN.
WE HAD IT AND WE WERE WORKING ON IT FOR YEARS.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS HAPPENING HERE IS IT'S UPDATED WITH WHAT THE ACHIEVEMENTS WERE.
BUT THEN THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THERE ARE GOING TO CHANGE AS WE DECIDE, AND IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS HERE.
WE'RE JUST ROUND TABLING IT, BUT THEN IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE PUBLIC AND EVENTUALLY IT COME BACK WHENEVER MIDDLE OF THE YEAR '24 AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE AMENDING IT.
MY NUMBER ONE WAS ALWAYS COMPLETE TOWN OWNERSHIP OF THE SUNNI SANS PROPERTY.
I HAD COMPLETION OF THE RIVERWALK, BUT YOUR IDEA OF, IT'S A SUNSET AND CRA HAVING A FUNDING MECHANISM AVAILABLE FOR MAINTENANCE, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
ALSO, MAINTAINING, ENHANCING ALL THE WATERFRONTS, SUBMERGED LANDS, SEA GRASSES LIVING SHORELINES WHEN PRACTICAL.
SHORELINES STABILIZATION, WHICH WERE AN ONGOING PROCESS.
ONE OF MY STRATEGIC INITIATIVES FEW YEARS AGO WAS JUST A DILIGENCE OF CLEARING AND REMOVING ALL DERELICT VESSELS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING SITUATION.
REMEMBER, WE WANTED TWO, AND THREE SHOW UP.
>> FUNDING CURRENTLY PROGRAMMED IN THE CRA BUDGET.
>> THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE ADD-ONS THAT WOULD AFFECT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AS OUR RESERVES, BASICALLY?
>> WE DON'T HAVE AM A CRA PLAN MUCH EARMARKED, CORRECT?
>> WE HAVE NO FUNDS EARMARKED FOR THAT PROJECT.
I'M SAYING I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR, WHAT ANSWERED IN COMMISSIONERS QUESTION IS WHAT WE HAVE IN A CRA CIP PLAN IS WELL BELOW 28 MILLION.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT'S THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS, IS THAT WE HAD A CRA PLAN AND TALKED ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE PROJECTS.
BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY BECOME EARMARKED FOR SPEND UNTIL IT'S IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AND THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THERE.
>> THERE'S VERY MINIMAL AT THIS POINT, HENCE WHY WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
>> THEN WE VOTE ON THOSE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
>> RIGHT NOW WITH THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENCUMBERED FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE CIP PROGRAM FUNDING, WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING IF NO NEW PROJECTS ARE ADDED, WE'D HAVE APPROXIMATELY $28 MILLION AT THE END OF LIFE.
BUT AS YOU WORK THE PLAN AND MODIFY THE PLAN, YOU SET YOUR PRIORITIES, AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL IDENTIFY THOSE PROJECTS.
THEY WILL BE ENCUMBERED AGAINST THOSE BALANCES AND SOME OF THE FUTURE BALANCES, SO THAT COULD DRIVE THAT NUMBER DOWN.
>> UNDERSTOOD. THE SUN TRAIL FUNDS, ARE THOSE MATCHABLE FUNDS OR ARE THOSE OUTRIGHT GRANTS?
>> AMAZING. NEW INFORMATION SINCE THE PLAN WAS FORMED.
THE SUNTRAIL DIDN'T EXIST THIS PROGRAM WHEN THE RIVERWALK CONCEPT FIRST EMERGED.
THERE HAD BEEN GRANT DOLLARS RECEIVED FOR THE RIVERWALK.
BUT SUN TRAIL BECAME A NEW FUNDING SOURCE AVAILABLE FOUR YEARS AGO AT 25 MILLION PER YEAR.
IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THAT FUNDING WAS INCREASED TO 50 MILLION PER YEAR GOING FORWARD, PLUS A $200 MILLION ONETIME AUTHORIZATION TO REALLY JUMP-START THE SUN TRAIL NETWORK.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE A NO-BRAINER THEN IF OUTRIGHT GIFT.
YOU SHOULD EVEN CONSIDERED SEPARATELY FROM EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT,
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THAT'S GOING TO BE A GIFT TO GET THOSE ITEMS DONE, SO WE CAN BASICALLY QUICK CONSIDERING THEM AS PART OF OUR OTHER LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE.BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, WHAT'S PUSHING THE BORDER UP TO THE TOWN LIMITS.
I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD TIE IT INTO THE LIGHTHOUSE.
THAT'S DOT FUNDS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT OF THEIR POCKET.
THAT'S A WIN-WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
I THINK THAT THE LIGHTHOUSE IS CLEARLY A DESTINATION.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF RESONANCE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO AS PART OF A DAY ON THE RIVER PLAYING AROUND.
I TOOK YOUR POINT THAT MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS DON'T LIVE ON THE WATER TOO HARD, WHICH IS TRUE. THEY DON'T.
THEY SEEK OUTLETS LIKE THIS AND EVERYBODY, I THINK COMES HERE BECAUSE OF THE WATER, BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE ON IT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE AS MANY OUTLETS FOR CITIZENS TO GET TO THE WATER.
THEN, YOU SAID YOU WERE FOR THE LIVING SHORELINES AND THE GRASSLANDS, BUT IT WAS A SOMEWHAT LOWER PRIORITY.
EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT BE CHEAPER ITEMS. THOSE ITEMS ELEVATE AN IMPORTANCE TO ME BECAUSE ONCE IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE.
WE'RE DESTROYING SO MUCH HABITAT NOW.
I THINK WE'RE IN A CRISIS MODE OF SAVING HABITAT.
THE PARTS OF THE RIVER TO THE WEST, THE RAILROAD TRACK USED TO BE WHEN I MOVED HERE 37 YEARS AGE, ACTIVE WISHED YOUR BARS, HUGE GRASS FLATS, BEAUTIFUL PLACE, ALL THE GRASS IS GONE, AND THERE ARE NO MORE [INAUDIBLE].
WE'RE RAPIDLY SEEN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE RIVER ENVIRONMENT.
IN MY HEART, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PRIORITY OF THIS PROJECT MOVE UP SUNNI SANDS FIRST, THEN THE LIVING PART OF THE RIVER, MARINE GRASS, LIVING SHORELINES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND THEN THE RIVERWALK.
FINAL TIE-INS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
LOOKING BACKWARDS, WHAT A SUCCESS IT'S BEEN.
>> IT WAS KIND OF A BLIGHTED AREA, WHICH I GUESS WAS THE POINT OF THE CRA TO BEGIN WITH.
THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT AND BECOMING VERY COOL.
IT'S GOING TO BE A DESTINATION ITSELF.
AND IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE TOWN, BUT IT CLEARLY ISN'T GOING TO MAKE THE DOWNLOADING.
ALL OF THESE VENUES THAT ARE NOW UP AND DOWN, THEY'RE PAYING TAX DOLLARS.
SO WE WERE NOT REALLY EVEN FIGURING THAT INTO OUR BUDGETS.
I DON'T THINK ALL WE GOT UP THAT THE INCREASE IN TAX DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THESE NEW FACILITIES, THAT'S NOT PART OF THOSE. I CAN'T HARDLY BELIEVE.
>> WE'RE ASSUMING SOME MEASURE OF GROWTH GOING FORWARD WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE $28 MILLION.
SO WE ARE ASSUMING THAT THOSE TAXABLE VALUES ARE INCREASING YEAR OVER YEAR.
>> WHICH MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THAT'S DEFINITELY HAPPENED.
YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW THERE WAS EMPTY SPOTS.
WE HAD A BUBBLEGUM FISH COMPANY THAT DIDN'T DO REALLY WELL THERE FOR A WHILE.
THAT WHOLE AREA AND THERE WAS I WOULD SAY ALMOST BLIGHTED.
NOW, BASED ON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET A TABLE, THEY MUST BE PAYING A LOT OF GOOD TAXES TO THE TOWN NOW, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
>> FOR A MEASUREMENT, YOU ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT BASE TAXABLE VALUE IS FOR THE CRA AT $167 MILLION APPROXIMATELY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CRA.
AS OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INCREMENTAL TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE OF 641 MINUS THE BASE VALUE.
SO $473 MILLION IS WHAT IT IS THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
SO PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
AVERAGE OF ABOUT $250,000 INCREASE IN TAXES THAT WE'RE RECEIVING ANNUALLY ON AVERAGE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
>> I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS ABOUT BIG BUDGET ITEMS AND THE NEED TO THROTTLE BACK.
I'M NOT A DOOMSDAYER, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD BE POSSIBLY ENTERING SOME COOLING OFF, SIGNIFICANT COOLING OFF OF THE ECONOMY.
SO IT'S I THINK VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING AND KEEPING IT WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING LATELY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AND I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
I THINK WE CAN ALL THINK OF ONE IN PARTICULAR.
SO EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT WE CAN TRIM MONEY FROM OUR BUDGETS WILL BE GOOD OR RELY ON STATE FUNDS WHILE STILL ADDRESSING THE FAIRLY IMMEDIATE NEEDS AT JUPITER.
AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THE MARINE PROTECTION.
SO IN MY MIND IT WOULD BE SUNI SANDS, THE MARINE PROTECTION, AND THEN THEIR RIVERWALK GAPS.
SO THAT'S MY PRIOR ORGANIZATION.
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>> BUT RIVERWALK GAPS WOULD BE FUNDED MOSTLY BY THE GRANTS, CORRECT?
>> THE NORTHERN PARTS OF THEM WOULD BE BASICALLY UP TO PIER PLACE, I GUESS. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YEAH. ACTUALLY, UP TO THE BRIDGE.
>> SO BETWEEN HARBORSIDE AND THE NEW US 1 BRIDGE.
>> RIGHT. BEYOND THAT, IF WE TRY TO INCREASE THAT LENGTH SO IT'D BE FROM BRIDGE ROAD OR A LITTLE BEYOND BRIDGE ROAD, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> CRA ENDS AT THE BRIDGE? SO IT'D BE STRICTLY SUN TRAIL FROM THEN ON.
>> THE THING ABOUT A CRA PLAN IS THAT, AND WE'RE FOCUSED IN ON THE CAPITAL PROJECT'S COMPONENT OF THE PLAN, WHICH IS VERY MATERIAL FOR ME AS YOUR FACILITATOR BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO NARROW THE DISCUSSION WITH THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THOSE PRIORITIES AS WE GO FORWARD.
BUT IT'S A PLANNING DOCUMENT ALSO.
SO THAT'S THE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AS YOUR CRA CONTINUES FORWARD.
IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE FOR THE TOWN TO HAVE BECAUSE IT'S AN EXCELLENT WAY TO BRING GRANT DOLLARS IN AND GET PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER ENTITIES.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO THINK ABOUT THOSE CAPITAL PROJECT PRIORITIES BECAUSE THAT'S ONE PIECE.
WHERE DO WE THINK WE WANT TO SPEND OUR DOLLARS? BUT YOU ALSO HAVE OTHER PROJECTS YOU CAN SPEND YOUR ENERGY ON AS AN ORGANIZATION, AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
SO THOSE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS CAN STILL LIVE IN THE PLAN.
THEY JUST MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME CAPITAL EMPHASIS, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE A PROGRAMMATIC EMPHASIS.
IT'S INTERESTING WHEN LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE REALLY AS I'M THINKING ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THE AGENCY AND I WAS HERE AS THE CRA WAS FORMED ACTUALLY, SO I'M A HAPPY CUSTOMER AND HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THE CRA HAS MADE.
THE INITIAL TIME FRAME IN 2002 DID HAVE VACANCY AND REALLY HAD A PATTERN OF SOME DISINVESTMENT.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHY CRAS WERE ALLOWED TO BE FORMED, TO CAPTURE TIFF REVENUE, TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THE EVOLUTION OF THE AGENCY, IT'S REALLY THE PUBLIC ACCESS COMPONENT THAT HAS SHIFTED THE AWARENESS THAT INVESTMENT BRINGS POTENTIALLY THE LOSS OF PUBLIC ACCESS IN-BETWEEN LAND ACQUISITION, WHICH IS PUBLIC ACCESS, AND THE RIVERWALK IMPROVEMENT, THAT BECOMES THE ORGANIZING ELEMENT, I THINK, FOR THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS GOING FORWARD, THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE CRA PLAN TO CARRY THAT AS A PRIORITY TO BE POSITIONED FOR PUBLIC DOLLARS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO HELP COMMUNITIES ACCOMPLISH THAT.
>> I'D SAY SOMEBODY MUST HAVE HAD A CRYSTAL BALL BACK WHEN THESE PRIORITIES WERE BEING MADE BECAUSE IT'S TURNED OUT REALLY WELL.
>> SOME OF THE GAPS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM.
ONE IN PARTICULAR, THE PIER PLACE, I SAW SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LOOP PATH THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE PEOPLE OUT INTO THE MANGROVES.
I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE GROWN UP FISHING IN MANGROVES AND BEING AROUND MANGROVES MOST OF MY LIFE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A MANGROVE FORESTS LOOKS LIKE.
THE EDUCATIONAL VALUE AND THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK I THINK WE'D GET FROM CITIZENS FROM LOOPING AROUND THROUGH THE MANGROVES I THINK SHOULD BE A HIGH PRIORITY.
PROBABLY A FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE PRIORITY.
IT'S A GROUND LEVEL BOARDWALK.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT PRIORITIZED.
HOW MANY GAPS ARE WE LOOKING AT NOW? MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE GAPS IN THE RIVERWALK.
>> ONE OF THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT GAPS IS ON THE PELICAN CLUB PROPERTY AND THEN EAST OF THE LOVE STREET RESTAURANTS WHERE CASTAWAYS IS.
THEN, AS WAS MENTIONED, THE RIVERWALK AS IT'S ADOPTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CONTINUES ONTO THE SUNI SANDS PROPERTY ACROSS MORE THAN 50% OF THE PROPERTY UP TO WHAT WAS THE FORMER BOATHOUSE.
>> THEN THERE ARE SOME SMALL PIECES.
THERE IS A SMALL GAP WHERE THERE WAS A CONNECTIVITY INTENDED TO THE BURT REYNOLDS PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS SOUTH OXBOW.
SO LET'S JUST NORTH AND HARBORSIDE THAT THE TOWN BUILT ARE PAID FOR FDOT TO BUILD AN UNDER BRIDGE WALKWAY SO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE CONNECTED ON BOTH SIDES TO THE EAST AND WEST.
>> THEN FDOT IS ALSO BUILDING THE UNDERPASS UNDER THE NEW US 1 BRIDGE.
SO THAT WILL LINK 1000 NORTH TO U-TIKI.
>> I'LL JUST POINT THOSE OUT REAL QUICKLY.
HERE IS HARBORSIDE AT THE SOUTH OF THE SLIDE.
THERE'S A PATHWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS SOUTHERN BRIDGE AND THEN THIS IS THE BURT REYNOLDS PROPERTY WHERE THERE'S A LOOP THAT CAN BE PART OF THE RIVERWALK OR AN EXTENSION OF THE RIVERWALK.
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JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE YOU CAN HAVE IF YOU GO THAT ROUTE.THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BURT REYNOLDS, THERE'S ALSO A WALKWAY.
IF YOU'VE GONE TO THE PARK, YOU KNOW THAT ONE ACTUALLY IS CONNECTED NOW.
THAT CONNECTS THE EAST SIDE AND THE WEST SIDE OF BURT REYNOLDS PARK, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CROSS THE HIGHWAY TO GO FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.
THEN ALSO AS [INAUDIBLE] POINTED OUT AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE US 1 BRIDGE, THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING PATHWAY UNDERNEATH THAT WILL CONNECT 1000 NORTH AND THE OLD FISHING BRIDGE TO U-TIKI AND THE DESTINATIONS FURTHER TO THE EAST.
>> I SEE THE BURT REYNOLDS AREA APPEARS TO BE KIND OF A STANDALONE.
IT'S NOT REALLY FILL IN ANY GAPS.
IT'S JUST PROVIDING, LIKE YOU SAID, A NEW [OVERLAPPING]
>> ORIGINALLY LIKE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT'S THE OFFICIAL RIVERWALK LOCATION.
BUT WE'RE TALKING AND CONTEMPLATING THESE CHANGES THAT MAY RESULT IN SOME NEEDED CHANGES TO THE CONVERSE OF PLAN ALIGNMENTS.
>> I WOULD PREFER TO SEE US CLOSE GAPS BEFORE WE DO CIRCLES.
I THINK THAT CIRCLE AROUND THAT BURROWS PARK WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.
>> IT'S ESSENTIALLY THERE. IT'S THERE AND THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR BIKE-LIKE SHARED WALKWAY OR PATHWAY ROADWAY, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT ROUGHLY, AT LEAST ON THE SOUTH SIDE, HAS THAT LOOP.
>> SO IT'D BE FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT?
>> BUT LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE OFFICIAL RIVERWALK.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING CONNECTED IN A NEW EXPERIENCE OR DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR DIFFERENT USERS.
>> FOR OUR CITIZENS ON THINGS, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
THEY DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S CALLED PART OF THE RIVERWALK OR NOT, IT APPEARS TO BE.
I BASICALLY THINK THAT'S MY CHOICES FOR PRIORITIES.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ADD.
AGAIN, JUST TO FRAME WHERE WE'RE AT.
ACTUALLY, THIS IS GREAT TIMING.
THERE IS NOT A ONE OF US ON THE DICE THAT HAS ANY REAL GOOD FEELING ON THE COST OF THIS STUFF.
WE DIDN'T BEFORE AND WE DON'T KNOW.
BUT IN THE FRAME OF BEING RESPONSIBLE, THE CRA OVER THE YEARS PRIORITIZE WHAT'S NEXT.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IN THE PLAN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANY MONEY.
THAT'S THE WAY IT'LL WORK GOING IN THE FUTURE.
WHAT COMES OUT OF THIS AND IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND WHEN THE PLAN COMES BACK, IT'S NATURAL THAT STAFF WILL BEGIN TO PROVIDE US SOME NUMBERS.
THEN WHATEVER IS NEXT UP OR THERE AFTER, IT WILL START TO FIND ITS WAY IN THE CRA BUDGET, IF YOU WILL.
I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE SO IT'S CLEAR ON ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENTS AND MITIGATIONS.
WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT KNOWLEDGE AS WE SIT UP HERE.
BUT TWO PIECES THAT I HAD AS A PRIORITY INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE IT'S PI AND PLACE THE SUNNI SANDS.
FOR SOMEHOW IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT I HAD THAT AS A LOWER PRIORITY. NO, I DID NOT.
I WAS TALKING PROJECTS, BUT THE CRA HAD GIVEN DIRECTION AND THE MORE SPEAKING A COMMISSIONER FORD, BECAUSE YOU'RE NEW TO SYRIA HAD GIVEN DIRECTION TO UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTRIBUTES SPECIFIC TO PIPE PLACE KNOWING THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO PLAN ENHANCEMENTS THERE, IF YOU WILL SO WHILE I DIDN'T CALL THAT ONE OUT, IT IS PART OF THAT PLAN, IN MY MIND, INCLUSIVE IN SUNNI SANDS WITH SEAGRASS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT AGAIN ALONG THE WAY, SO SOME OF THESE ARE MORE GENERIC IS PART IS A TYPE OF THING AND OTHERS ARE MORE OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY SPECIFIC.
I WILL SAY THAT WE NEVER HAD RIVERWALK.
NEVER IN THE PLAN DID WE KNOW HOW MUCH RIVERWALK ALONG THE INLET WAS GOING TO BE DONE AND WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO GO AS IT COULD GO.
IT WAS MORE OF THE ALIGNMENT WHICH CLEAR FROM THE SOUTH END KEY GOT UP TO LIKE HARBOR SIDE AND THEN IT GOT TO BE MURKIER, IF YOU WILL.
I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CORRECT HERE.
THEN I REALLY WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR STAFF AND PERHAPS OUR CONSULTANT ON THE SUN TRAIL OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU WILL.
BUT IT COMES TO ME I'M ON THE TPA BOARD AND IT COMES TO ME, IT'S ALREADY QUEUED UP TO SUPPORT AND REALLY GET IN PRIORITY ENDORSEMENT BY THE TPA BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR SUNFLOWER WERE SO FAR AHEAD, SO JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
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BUT THAT HAPPENING, QUITE FRANKLY.I CALL IT A GOD SEND BECAUSE IT NOW ALLOWS A DIFFERENT WAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY THAN HAD BEEN ENVISIONED BEFORE THAT AND THEREFORE, TO SOME DEGREE, IT NOW MOVE TO THE FRONT AND IN ANY COURSE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE FUNDING, BUT THIS IS THE WAY THESE EVOLVES SO WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING THIS.
IT GOES TO PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO US AND WHATEVER BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT WILL HAPPEN, LIKE I SAY, INCLUSIVE OF US GETTING SOME SENSE FOR FUNDING REQUIREMENTS AND SO WE MAY CHOOSE TO PUT MORE IN THE PLAN AND WE BELIEVE WE CAN AFFORD BECAUSE IT JUST IN NEAR IF AN OPPORTUNITY ARISES ON GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I WASN'T TRYING TO. BUT TO SOME DEGREE, WE HAVE TO GIVE GUIDANCE ABOUT WHAT'S THE ORDER TO DO NEXT SO, BUT I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE SURPRISED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY OR TO POP UP THAT WAY.
WE MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT. THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.
THE GAP BETWEEN PELICAN CLUB ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SUNNY SANDS.
WE LOOKED AT THAT BACK WHEN DURING THE REMODEL OF PELICAN CLUB AND THERE WERE SOME PERMISSIONS NEEDED AND ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
IS THAT EVEN FEASIBLE TO DO THAT? SHOULD WE EVEN CONSIDER IT ANYMORE? WE HAD AS PART OF THAT REDEVELOPMENT FROM WHAT WAS THE FORMER RESTAURANT THINK OF AS RUSTY REST AGAIN.
AT THE TIME WHEN THEY DID THE REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE PELICAN CLUB, THEY WERE REQUESTED TO ADDRESS THE RIVERWALK AND THEY PROVIDED US THE RIGHT TO USE THEIR RIPARIAN RIGHTS OUT ON THE WATER TO COMPLETE THE CONNECTION FOR THE RIVERWALK.
JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND THERE, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA AT THAT PROPERTY, WHEREAS NOW PELICAN CLUB WAS A PROOF ROUTER RECEIVING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE MANGROVES SO THERE WAS NO UPLAND TO REALLY HAVE THAT GO THROUGH.
>> OR MAYBE IT'S GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING AND CORRECT.
>> IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AND THIS IS WHEN WE REALLY FOCUSED ON PROTECTING SEAGRASSES, IS BOAT TRAFFIC COMING INTO THE SEAGRASS AREAS CAN BE MOST DETRIMENTAL, SO ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF CONNECTING SOMETHING OVER WATER ISN'T THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A COVE SANCTUARY TYPE OF AREA THAT WON'T BE ACCESSIBLE TO BOATS.
WHILE THERE WILL BE SOME IMPACTS AND WE'D HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THE LOCATION AS IT RELATES TO ANY EXISTING SEAGRASSES THERE.
ULTIMATELY WOULD PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROTECTED AREA.
>> THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, ANY MAN-MADE STRUCTURES LIKE THOSE CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OYSTER RESTORATION NET AND WHAT WE FOUND IN WHEN DOING OUR LIVING SHORELINE AT SELFISH BAY IS THAT ONCE YOU HAVE OYSTERS, THEY'RE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH OYSTERS, SEAGRASS, PIN FISH AND THERE'S THIS CIRCLE OF FERTILIZATION AND HABITAT AND LIFE THAT IS VERY HARD TO RECREATE IN AN AREA WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE BLUE WATER BECAUSE YOU NEED THAT VISIBILITY IN THAT CLARITY TO GROW SEAGRASS.
>> THIS OTHER FIELDS LIKE SHEEP'S HEAD AND DOES OTHER FISH THAT LIKE THE PARENTS WITH THE OYSTERS AND ALL THAT?
>> ABSOLUTELY. YOU'D BE SURPRISED THE PARROT FISH THAT ARE AT SELFISH BAY AND THEY'RE OVER THERE CLEANING OFF THE BARNACLES AND IT'S AMAZING JUST THE SMALL AMOUNT THAT WE'VE LEARNED WITH THE SMALL AMOUNT OF LIVING SHORELINE HAS PROVIDED US A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO NOT ONLY BE RESILIENT FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT TO ALSO PROTECT AND ENHANCE OUR MARINE ENVIRONMENT.
>> IT'S AMAZING HOW QUICKLY IT HAPPENED.
>> YES. OUR REEF BALLS ARE ENCRUSTED WITH OYSTERS AND IT'S ONLY BEEN THIS YEAR SO THEY'RE THIS BIG.
IT'S AMAZING WHICH YOU CAN FIND OUT THERE.
THERE IS SOME IMPACTS, BUT IN THE LONG RUN DOES IT PROTECT AND PROVIDE MARINE HABITAT.
WE'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT SUNNY SANDS IN THAT AREA WITH THE RIVERWALK FOR SURE GIVEN WHAT'S THERE BECAUSE WHAT WE KNOW IS HERE IS.
>> FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC WE HAD CONDUCTED A PILOT PROJECT AT THE SELFISH BAY MARINA AREA AND THAT INCLUDED ARTIFICIAL REEF MODULES,
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WHICH ARE THESE LITTLE DOMES THAT HAVE SWISS CHEESE [LAUGHTER] AND THEY'RE PUT INTO THE WATER AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MARINE LIFE TO ATTACH TO THEM AND WE'VE PROVIDED COUNSEL WITH PHOTOGRAPHS WITH THOSE IN THE PAST.I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME IN OUR SLIDE THAT ACTUALLY SHOW ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE INSTALLED AND THE SLIDE ABOVE THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF OURS. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YOU DON'T REALLY RECOGNIZE THEM MUCH NOW AND ACTUALLY WE PUT ONE OF THESE MINIATURE REEF BALLS IN OUR TIME CAPSULE FOR PEOPLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT BAY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS DONE TO CREATE THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HOPE IN 50 YEARS WILL JUST BE PHENOMENAL AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO EVEN KNOW THAT THOSE WERE PLANTED THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
>> THERE'S A VERY INTERESTING VIDEO TO A QUICK SIDE NOTE, I'M MAKING THOSE AVAILABLE ON WHAT'S THE CODE FOR HOMEOWNERS ALONG THE RIVER PUTTING THOSE THINGS OUT FROM THERE SEAWALLS.
>> WERE WORKING ON THAT WITH A FALL.
THEY'VE JUST RECENTLY GOTTEN EXEMPTION PERMANENT IN SARASOTA SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE BUT THAT'S THROUGH ARMY CORPS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT CAN BE PROVIDED.
THE GOAL WAS TO TRY AND DO THEM FOR THE TOWN, FOR AN END TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.
WE'RE GETTING OFF TOPIC, BUT I'D LOVE TO DO IS REEF BALL GIVEAWAY.
>> THAT'S A GOOD OPTION. I WOULD THINK MOST PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE WATER OUT OF THE MONEY THAT YOU TRUST THEM.
>> YOU PUT THEM WHERE YOU WANT THEM, NOT WHERE IT'S A PROBLEM SO THEY WILL MORE THAN LIKELY BE AN ACID.
>> ONE OYSTER FILTERS 50 GALLONS OF WATER A DAY.
IN THE OLD DAYS, LIKE YOU REMEMBER, WELL, THE ROOSTER BEDS CLEANER THAT WATER WAS.
>> IT'S ALL THOUGH BRACKISH WATER BEING DUMPED.
>> WELL, THERE'S A TWOFOLD CATS DUMPING FROM ONE DIRECTION, THE DREDGED WATER'S COMING IN FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION.
MOVING WATER CARRIES SAND AND WHEN THE WATER SLOWS DOWN AT DUMPS THE SANDSTONE SO WE'LL SEE WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE. SORRY. [LAUGHTER]
>> BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE PRETTY WELL ALIGNED TO GO THROUGH QUICKLY THE LAST GRANT WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANTED, RIGHT?
>> ABSOLUTELY. I CAN'T MANIPULATE THE SLIDES FROM HERE.
WE'LL START FROM THE TOP AND WALK DOWN.
THE BOARD TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE RIVERWALK.
LET'S FOCUS ON MAYBE THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED ONES BECAUSE WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED ONES.
THE IDEA OF THE RIVERWALK HAVING SOME GATEWAY FEATURES, IT'S AN IDEA THAT WAS IN THE PLAN IN KEY LOCATIONS.
IS THAT AN IDEA THAT WE SHOULD MAINTAIN IN THE PLAN? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY ELIGIBLE FOR GRANT FUNDING.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AS A BOARD? SOUND OKAY TO KEEP THAT IN?
>> GRANT FUNDING MATCHING OR GRANT FUNDING GIVEAWAY?
>> WELL, THE GOAL IS GRANT FUNDING GIVEAWAY.
>> THERE MAY BE GRANT FUNDING MATCHING SO KEEPING THE PROJECTS IN, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO A BOARD ARE EVERYTHING IN THE KITCHEN SINK IS GOOD TO HAVE IN THE PLAN NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS PRIORITY BUT KEEP OPTIONS OPEN SO THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE A DOCUMENT TO REFER TO WHEN YOU GO AFTER A GRANT APPLICATION?
>> WELL, I WOULD GENERALLY SAY ABOUT GATEWAY FEATURE WOULD PROBABLY BE LESS IMPORTANT THAN FILLING GAPS BUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED BY ANOTHER AGENCY THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING ENTIRELY.
>> YOU COULD HAVE DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE SO IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
>> I WANT TO BE JUST CAREFUL ON THAT ONE FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT BECAUSE I DO TRY TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR THE PUBLIC REGARDLESS WHO'S PAYING FORTH FIRST.
SOME OF THE GATEWAYS WE'VE DONE OR THINGS ALONG RIVERWALK WERE JUST A NATURAL AS IT CAME UP.
I'M OKAY WITH LEAVING THIS IN HERE AND AS IT COMES UP AS A NATURAL TO-DO THEN IT WOULD SURFACE ITSELF IN THE PLANNING AND BUDGETING PROCESS.
>> WELL, JUST ONE THING, THE US1/A1A GATEWAY, THE BRIDGE IS ITS OWN GATEWAY.
>> DO WE NEED A GATEWAY NEAR THE US1/A1A IF WE HAVE THAT?
>> I'D SAY NOT BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF WHAT MIGHT COME TO PASS.
>> THAT'S GOING TO RISE SO SHARPLY BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH HIGHER THAT ANYBODY'S GOING TO FOCUS ON.
>> WE WENT OUT OF HER WAY TO MAKE SURE THE BRIDGE WAS DONE PROPERLY TO MATCH AND FIT IN AND WHATEVER SO EFFECTIVELY THAT CAME IN.
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>> IT WAS REALLY ANOTHER GRACE THAT FELL ON THE AGENCY REALLY BECAUSE THAT PROJECT NOT THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE CHALLENGES IN CONSTRUCTION BUT WHEN IT'S DONE IT'S ANOTHER REALLY TREMENDOUS SIGNATURE FEATURE TO BRING INTO THE CRA DISTRICT.
>> THE JUST DEDICATED WALKING PEDESTRIAN LANE GOING OVER TO THE LIGHTHOUSE AND A DEDICATED BICYCLE LANES SO IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE PEACEFUL NOISE FROM THE TRAFFIC BUT YOU CROSS THAT BRIDGE NOW YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE ON YOUR HANDS.
>> I'VE RIDDEN ON THE LITTLE STRIPE BEFORE AND IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY SO I DID NOT RIDE ON THAT STRIPE ANYMORE.
>> WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE OUT THE WORD MAJOR.
SAY GATEWAY FEATURES BECAUSE IT'S FEATURES THAT ARE TYING INTO THE RIVERWALK IN SOME WAY.
YOU CAN ALMOST THEN LEAVE IT UNDEFINED.
>> YEAH. WE'VE GOT A MAJOR GATEWAY TO THE TOWN IF THE MAJOR GATEWAY PROGRAM FOR THE TOWN JUPITER AND WE'VE GOT IT NORTH OF THE BRIDGE.
WE ACTUALLY JUST GOT A REALLY NICE EMAIL ABOUT THAT FEATURE BUT IT COULD BE CONFUSING SO JUST TO WATCH THE AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE AND IT COULD BE POLLUTING IN SOME INSTANCES.
>> THE IDEA OF A WATER TAXI IS AN IDEA THAT CIRCULATED ABOUT AND THE TOWN HAS SOME DOCKS THAT WERE INSTALLED WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING A WATER TAXI.
ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T SEEM AS THOUGH WATER TAXI HAS MATERIALIZED OVER TIME SO GOOD INTENTIONS SOMETIMES DIFFERENT OUTCOMES HAPPEN.
IS A WATER TAXI SOMETHING YOU'D WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE OR PURSUE OR LEAVE THE IMPROVEMENTS AS THEY ARE AND LET THE FUTURE BRING YOU WHAT OPPORTUNITIES HAPPEN?
>> BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THIS WAS PUT IN THERE WERE SOME THAT ACTUALLY THOUGHT THE CRA COULD FUND THE TAXI AND WHATEVER REALLY I THINK WE REALIZED FROM THE SCALE WHATEVER HAPPENS COMMERCIALLY I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH IT, I BELIEVE.
>> THAT WAS THE ONE I HAVE IN MIND WHEN I DON'T SUPPORT ALL OF THEM I THINK THAT'S ONE WE CAN EASILY ELIMINATE.
>> THAT'S ONE THAT CAN BE PAID FOR COMMERCIALLY.
>> THEY'RE ALREADY HAPPENING AT U-TIKI.
>> THEY SOLD ME LITTLE TIKI CRUISES AND THEY COULD INVOLVE SOMEBODY IF YOU WANT TO GET ACROSS THE RIVER AND I THINK IT'S ALREADY THERE.
>> THE NEEDS THEIR BUSINESS WILL FIND IT CAPITALISM LIKE GRASS WILL FIND ITS LEVEL.
>> I WANT TO GET AND GO BACK TO WHAT WE'VE TOUCHED ON.
BOTH PROPS ARE NOT GOOD FOR GRASS SO WHERE EVERYTHING WE DO WE SHOULD TRY TO GET IT AWAY FROM THE GRASS LINES.
>> OKAY. NEXT PAGE HAS A COUPLE OF RIVERWALK RELATED ITEMS THE BOARD HAS ALREADY EXPRESSED ITS CONSISTENT SUPPORT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HUNTSMAN AND MITIGATION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A STRONG PRIORITY TO MAINTAIN GOING FORWARD.
THE OXBOW BRIDGE BASED ON YOUR DISCUSSION IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A SECONDARY PRIORITY VERSUS THE MAINLINE GAPS IN THE RIVERWALK.
THEN THE INLET VILLAGE RIVERWALK GAPS THOSE ARE REALLY GOING TO BE NEGOTIATED I THINK ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
SOUNDS AS THOUGH THEY SHOULD STILL HAVE PRIORITY BUT FROM A CAPITAL STANDPOINT THEY'RE LIKELY GOING TO BE DEVELOPED BY OTHER PARTIES.
>> SHOULD BE A NODE IN A PLAN IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE KEPT IN THE PLANNERS IF AS OPPORTUNITIES ARISE STATEMENT AS OPPOSED TO BECAUSE IF YOU IMPLY MISSING LINKS WHEN SOMEBODY HAS MISINTERPRETED THAT MEANS WE'RE OBSESSED WITH FILLING IT IN SO MAYBE AN IF-AS OPPORTUNITIES ARRIVES COMMENT.
>> SOMEBODY IS ASKING FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
>> WELL, ACTUALLY THAT'S A WONDERFUL SEGUE BECAUSE THINKING ABOUT HOW THE DISTRICT FUNCTIONS WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME AS A PLANNER IS THAT THE RIVERWALK IS A COMPONENT OF YOUR OVERALL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IN THE DISTRICT.
THERE'S BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY, THERE'S A PARTICULAR MOBILITY, THERE'S PARKING AS A PART OF THAT SO THOSE PIECES ARE REALLY ALL TIED TOGETHER WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FUNCTION OF THE DISTRICTS SO THERE'S A WAY TO MAYBE POSITION THAT FOR YOU IN THE PLAN TO EMPHASIZE THAT POINT SO THAT WHEN FOLKS COME IN TO ASK FOR A FAVOR FOR EXAMPLE THERE'S A LARGER SYSTEM TO BE CONSIDERED AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HAPPEN AS PART OF THE EXCHANGE OF THAT FAVOR SO THAT'S A PROGRAMMATIC OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE.
>> I INTERPRET IT AND BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE I THOUGHT THAT THE STAFF WAS TALKING ABOUT, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL LIVING, SHORELINES AND WHATEVER IF YOU'RE OVER WATER YOU'RE NOW IN CONFLICT WITH THAT SO LET'S JUST BE REALISTIC HERE WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT WHEN IT WAS DESCRIBED TO US.
FOR EXAMPLE, HOW IN SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS THE ONLY
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WAY IT COULD BE BUILT AS WHAT'S THERE NOW IS OVER WATER SO WE'RE NOT INCLINED TO PUT SOMETHING OVER WATER EVEN IF AN OPPORTUNITY ARISED IF IT'S IN CONFLICT WITH THE HABITAT IN WATER NOW BEING SHADED.>> BUT SOMETIMES THAT CAN REALLY HELP.
>> UNDERSTAND BUT THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE MADE VERY CLEAR BECAUSE IT'S NOT.
WHAT IS THE OVERRIDING PRIORITY? I THINK IT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK TO THE BOAT HOUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH BECAUSE IT'S SO SENSITIVE THERE AND LEARNING ABOUT ALL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE THERE NOW I ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
BUT PELICAN CLUB WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WE COULD CREATE SOME PROTECTION FOR A SEAGRASS COVE AND THEN OYSTER INTERVENTIONS THAT WE CAN DO IF IT'S A MAN-MADE SECTION SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE SEGMENT.
THE WESTERN SEGMENTS I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE EASTERN MOST SEGMENT THAT TERMINUS AT THE BOAT HOUSE I DON'T SUPPORT.
>> MY WIFE AND I WENT DOWN AND HAD DINNER AT TIKI THE OTHER DAY AND AT THE DOCK THAT'S OUTSIDE OFF OF I THINK JETTIES THAT HAS THE BENCHES ON IT. WE'RE SITTING OUT THERE.
THERE WAS A JUVENILE SEA TURTLE ABOUT THIS BIG JUST SWIMMING ALL IN THAT LITTLE FROM LIKE 3, 4 FEET UP UNTIL LIKE ONE FOOT JUST SWIMS. THAT'S A REALLY SENSITIVE AREA.
THEY'RE ALWAYS IN THERE SINCE YOU'RE AROUND.
[OVERLAPPING] I WOULD NOT WANT TO DISTURB ANY OF THAT JUST BACK TO THE BRIDGE, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
IT BURT REYNOLDS, WHAT'S IT A MILLION DOLLARS? YEARS AGO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
THAT WAS EXPENSIVE, WASN'T IT?
>> FOR MULTI-MILLION CONTEXTS.
IT WAS PRICEY AND THEN WE COULDN'T GET THE EASEMENT, ALL THAT.
>> THEN MAINTENANCE OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND WE HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATING ANOTHER SOLUTION WHICH COULD BE LIKE A HUCK FINN FAIRY THOUGHT.
THEY HAVE ONE AT JONATHAN'S LANDING, ON THE GOLF COURSE, WHERE YOU PUSH THE BUTTON AND YOU GO ACROSS AND THEN YOU PUSH BACK ON A TRACK.
>> THAT'S A SMALL AFFAIR THAT RUNS ON A TRACK UNDER THE WATER.
>> BUT THAT REQUIRES DAY TO DAY, SOMEONE TO MANAGE IT.
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN IT'S DIFFERENT OVERALL OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE.
THE THE ROADWAY NETWORK AND THE INLET VILLAGE, THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED OVER TIME.
IT YOU HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON THOSE SPECIFICALLY.
WE WOULD SUGGEST YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER JUST KEEPING THOSE THINGS IN THE PLAN BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THOSE GRANT DOLLARS BECOME AVAILABLE OR DOLLARS FROM THE TPA, SO I JUST FIGURED I'D RAISE THAT FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION AS WE GO FORWARD.
>> I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE PARKWAY KEPT IN.
>> WELL, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER AREA IN TOWN IS IF TRAFFIC GETS TO THE POINT, YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING, THEN WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING SO IT'S A GENERIC ITEM.
>> THAT'S HOW WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE CROP, THERE'S A SUGGESTION, A PROJECT IN THE PLAN THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO PUT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ACROSS A1A, AS THE RIVERWALK WOULD THEORETICALLY BE EXTENDED UP FROM BURT REYNOLDS PARK.
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE IDEA OF THAT CROSSING IN THE PLAN, THE RIVER CROSSING, THE OXBOW CROSSING IN THE PLAN, YOU KEEP THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AS WELL.
>> PEDESTRIAN CAUTIONS JUST IN GENERAL SAFETY.
AT ANYTIME STAFF DECIDES THAT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING WOULD FACILITATE THAT AND THAT WOULD BE IN THERE SO THAT'S ANOTHER GENERIC ITEM.
>> BUT IT SHOWS THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE PLAN.
I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU AS A PLANNER THAT YOU PROCURE THAT TRAVEL JOURNEY ALL THE WAY THROUGH IN A SAFE MANNER.
PUBLIC BOAT DOCKING AT ALONG THE RIVER WALK.
THIS IDEA INCLUDES THE SLIPS AT U-TIKI AND THEN RELATED TO THAT ARE THE IS THE INLET MARINA NEXT TO GUANA BONUS, SO PUBLIC BOAT DOCKING AND ALSO THE UPLAND ACTIVITIES THAT COULD GO ALONG WITH THAT. THOSE PROPERTIES.
>> I THINK ON THIS ONE, IF I'M LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBERS,
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THEY'RE SOMEWHAT ARBITRARILY CRA, BOARD SET 75 FLIPS.WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THE MASS SO IT'S TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE REMOVE 14.
IT'S STILL SAYING 13 IS OUTSTANDING.
I'M OPPOSED TO KEEPING AN ARBITRARY AD EVEN IN THERE, BECAUSE WE'VE COME TO REALIZE HOW PROBLEMATIC PUBLIC DOCS ARE.
I WOULD TAKE OUT THE HOUR JUST STATUS SIDE IS COMPLETE.
WELL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S AGREE WITH THAT.
THEN SOME OPPORTUNITY CAME UP WITH CHANGE YOUR MIND, IT COULD COME BACK AGAIN.
BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE AGREE ON THAT.
>> I'M A BOAT OWNER, BUT I BELIEVE THE BOAT OWNERS ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE RIVER.
THEY'RE IN THE MINORITY OF CITIZENS SO TO PROVIDE AS MUCH SERVICE DOES MANY CITIZENS AS POSSIBLE, IT WOULDN'T BE TO PRIORITIZE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SERVE A MINORITY OF CITIZENS.
>> IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE CERTAINLY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT OVER THE COURSE OF THIS PLAN, JUST FROM JUST RECENTLY WE LOOKED AT PUBLIC DOCKS AND THEIR MAINTENANCE BECOMES A REAL CONCERN, PUBLIC SAFETY BECOMES A REAL CONCERN.
GIVEN ALL THAT WE'VE LEARNED, IT'S FINE TO GO AHEAD AND MARK IT COMPLETE.
RELATED TO THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IS INLET VILLAGE MARINA, THERE'S THE UPLAND PROPERTY AND HAS TO GO ON.
IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THE DISCUSSIONS FOCUSED ON ALLOWING THAT PROPERTY TO BE PROGRAMMED FOR ACTIVITIES AND EITHER BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER OR BY OTHERS FOR SMALL FESTIVALS OR EVENTS THAT COULD TAKE PLACE IN THE DISTRICT, IS THAT AN IDEA THAT THE BOARD LIKES, MAINTAIN IT AS AN OPTION?
>> WE TOSS THIS AROUND FOR AWHILE.
THIS IS ONLY TWO PARKING SPOTS THERE AND YOU CAN, BUT YOU HAVE TO USE THE TOP PARKING LOT, THE PARKING OF THE PARKWAY.
BUT IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT ONE.
IT'S THERE IT'S SOMEWHAT USED.
>> BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PARKING.
[OVERLAPPING] IT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
>> I LIKE IT. SOMEBODY ADDS A NICE GREEN SPACE, THAT AREA.
THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT LIVE OVER THERE THAT CAN ENJOY IT, AND THERE CAN BE PROGRAMS ARE LOCAL COMMUNITY PROGRAMS FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I THINK IT'S ONE, IT'S NOT A PRIORITY FOR ME, BUT TO LEAVE IT IN THE PLAN TO KEEP OPTIONS OPEN AS GOOD.
I'VE HEARD RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT WANTING PUBLIC ART THERE.
I'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT EVENTS, LOCAL EVENTS THERE.
I LIKE THAT IDEA A LOT SO CERTAINLY TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND WITH REGARD TO THAT SPACE.
THE BOARD TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RIVERWALK CONNECTIONS.
THIS IS FOCUSED ON THAT PIECE OF RIVERWALK THAT EXTENDS DOWN TO THE LIGHTHOUSE AND THE THE UPLAND IMPROVEMENTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
>> THAT'S FEDERAL PROPERTY AND THEN WHERE'S THE TOWN AND THEN THE TAKEOVER?
>> IT SO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS THE STREET LLOYD LIGHTHOUSE, RAMADAN.
THEN WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT LOVED STREET, THEY PUT PAVERS IN THERE AND LANDSCAPED AT OUR SECTION IS JUST ASPHALT, HAS LIMITED LANDSCAPING BOTH.
WE HAVEN'T ALLOWED ANY EVENTS AND THERE'S NO EVENTS OCCURRING THERE.
IT HAD ORIGINALLY HAD ANY INTENTION OF BEING A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD COME AND CONGREGATE AS THEY LOOK AT THE LIGHTHOUSE.
>> TO KEEP THAT ONE IN, AS A RIVERWALK ENHANCEMENT.
GRANT ELIGIBLE, LOWER PRIORITY THAN OTHER THINGS SOUNDS.
[NOISE] JUMPING FORWARD TO THE OXBOW BRIDGE CONNECTION IDEA.
WHAT I HEARD FROM THE BOARD IS TO KEEP THAT IN BUT LOWER PRIORITY THAN CLOSING OTHER GAPS.
GRANT FUNDING OKAY, TAKES OTHER RESOURCES LIKELY NOT A PRIORITY.
IF PETE FOR NOW, SUPER QUIET PLACE, THE PIOT PIT PLACE PROPERTY OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RIVERWALK TO BE EXTENDED OUT THROUGH THE MANGROVES.
IT WOULD BE AN OFFLINE IMPROVEMENT.
FROM THE SUN TRAIL FUNDING STANDPOINT, THERE'S THE MAIN CONNECTION WHICH WOULD LIKELY BE THE US ONE SEGMENT AND THEN ANCILLARY LOOPS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR OTHER GRANT FUNDS.
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COULD COMPLEMENT SUN TRAIL FUNDS, PROBABLY NOT TAKE THEM DIRECTLY, BUT THERE MIGHT BE OTHER TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO MATCH WITH OTHER GRANT SOURCES FROM AGENCIES LIKE THE EP AND FIND FOREIGN LAB NAVIGATIONAL DISTRICT, AS WELL AS, WELL PERHAPS THE CRA.SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON THE DISCUSSION, KEEP THAT IN AS A PROJECT BUT NOT AS HIGH A PRIORITY AS OTHER GAPS. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> I THINK THAT ON THIS PARTICULAR LINE AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING BUT THEN MY COLLEAGUES NEED TO WEIGH IN THAT I THINK YOU HEARD AT THE BEGINNING THAT WE ALL HAD THAT AS A PRIORITY.
I'VE HEARD SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THINK THAT THE REASON IT'S NOT DEVELOPERS BECAUSE NOBODY HAS BEEN INTERESTED.
NOT TRUE THAT A LOT OF INTERESTS, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO PUT IN HIGH-RISES AND WHATEVER THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO PUT ON IT SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT PRETTY CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE SOMETHING FOR THAT PROPERTY AND TO THE DEGREE THAT A PLAN HAS EMERGED AND HAD BEEN SHARED PUBLICLY WITH A FIRE STATION AND THEN A PARK.
I THINK THE PARK PIECE OF THAT FITS WITHIN THIS PLAN SO TWO DEGREE THAT'S COME OUT.
I'M JUST SAYING I DO SUPPORT THAT PLAN.
THAT HAS THE TOWN HAS JUST BEGUN TO SHARE.
IT'S JUST US BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC USE AND IT FITS IN WITH WHAT'S SURROUNDING IT.
>> I AGREE, BUT I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT A LITTLE HIGHER PRIORITY.
>> WELL POWERPLAY SAYS [OVERLAPPING].
BUT I'M SAYING THE PLAN THAT EMERGES IT'S A GOOD DEFINED PLAN.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S DONE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IT WOULD FIT NICE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I AGREE. YOU MENTIONED THE MAYBE THE RIVERWALK GOING DOWN INTO THE MANGROVE FOREST.
COULD BE A NICE AMENITY, BUT I JUST HAVE RESERVATIONS, ANY DAMAGE WE COULD DO TO IT. I KNOW.
>> IT HAS TO BE DAMAGED FREE [OVERLAPPING].
>> SERIOUSLY LOOKED AT RESEARCH STUFF, BUT WE HAD A SPECIALIST AND THEN COUNTY THAT ARE VERY GOOD AT MITIGATING DAMAGE DOMAIN.
>> BUT THE FACT THAT [OVERLAPPING] HE'S A KAYAK LAUNCH AND OTHER FEATURES THERE, IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING PARKING FOR BURT REYNOLDS AND SO IT WAS A LOT OF GOOD PUBLIC USES A COMPLIMENT NEXT TO IT.
>> I THINK GIVEN ITS LOCATION TWO AND ITS SIZE IS JUST GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE MAJOR DEFINING PROJECTS FOR THE ENTIRE CRA AREA.
THAT ALONE SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
THE OTHER PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN KICKED ABOUT IS THE IDEA OF ADDING THOSE ADDITIONAL SUN TRAIL ALIGNMENT ALONG US 1, I THINK THE TOWN HAS ALREADY TAKEN ACTION TO PUSH THOSE FORWARD.
WE'D WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE IN THE PLAN AS PRIORITY PROJECTS.
YOU FEEL IT'S GOOD TO SHOW THAT CONNECTION.
ARE THERE OTHER THINGS WE'VE LEFT OUT? IT'S A PRETTY GOOD LIST.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? [BACKGROUND].
>> I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT ONE TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.
THAT'S GOING TO EVOLVE DEPENDING UPON HOW IT EVOLVES HERE.
>> WELL, FROM A CRA PLAN STANDPOINT, PROPERTY ACT POSITION IS INAPPROPRIATE ACTIVITY TO [OVERLAPPING].
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES THAT HAVE KEY FEATURES ALSO IS APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR CRA PLAN.
IT WILL BE CAUTIOUS IN HOW THAT'S DESCRIBED, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY AN ELIGIBLE INAPPROPRIATE ACTIVITY.
>> WELL, THERE'S DISCUSSION GOING ON IT UNDER MEDIATION ON THAT PROPERTY, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN ANY MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
>> BUT THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO GO FOR MONTHS.
SOMETHING MAY WARN THOSE THINGS WERE AN OPPORTUNITY MAY EMERGE AND THEN WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
>> SURE, AND WE'LL BE SURE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY REFERENCE THERE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE TOWN.
>> PROJECTS THAT I'VE SEEN PROPER FOR FLORIDA KEYS AND FOR AMAZON MORE AND MORE IS INVOLVED.
THANK YOUR NEEDS VERY PROMINENT AND WISHES.
EVERYONE, WHEREVER YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE, CONGREGATING BOATS, AND FOR LONGER TIMES YOU CAN GET THESE MORE INVOLVED RANGE OF AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE.
AGAIN IT IS FREE, HELP SAVE SERIOUS FORM.
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>> THE IDEA OF A DESIGNATE AN ANCHORAGE IS A PROJECT AREA WHERE WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE AS AN AGENCY.
THERE ARE SOME COMPONENTS TO IT TO ENABLE IT TO WORK APPROPRIATELY, WHICH INCLUDE ACCESS FOR MORE VESSELS TO GET TO THE UPLAND.
MORNING BALLS IN THE WATER AND THEN AN UPLAND SET OF DOCS AND OFTEN SOME FACILITY SO THAT FOLKS THAT ARE MORE IN CAN GET TO THE UPLAND.
THERE'S ONE LOCATION WHERE THE TOWN HAS EXPLORED THAT IDEA IN THE PAST, WHICH IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE HARBOR SIDE PROPERTY.
WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO WORK THROUGH IDEAS RELATED TO A DESIGNATED ANCHORAGE IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
THERE IS A LOT OF GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE THROUGH THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATIONAL DISTRICT AS WELL AS DEP.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE THOSE GRANT DOLLARS AGAINST EACH OTHER SOMETIMES TO REALLY MINIMIZE THE LOCAL CONTRIBUTION NECESSARY.
>> I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE UPLAND LIQUOR.
I THINK PRIMARILY WANT TO GO SURE.
WE'VE GOT AN INTERESTING COLLECTION ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE.
YOU DON'T SEE NO ONGOING WORKS.
>> WHAT I CAN EXPLORE, WHAT THE STAFF IS, THE IDEA OF MOORINGS THAT WOULD BE USED NOT FOR OVERNIGHT STAY, BUT FOR TEMPORARY STAY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S PRECEDENT FOR THAT, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST TO FIGURE OUT IF WE HAVE PRECEDENT TO WORK FROM OR A NEW PROJECT IDEA.
>> I WILL BE ENCOURAGING NO OVERNIGHT.
>> IF WE LIVE FOR CITIZENS. IT TRANSIENT MORE.
>> IT'S A TRICKY SOLUTION BECAUSE WELL, SUFFICE IT TO SAY I WILL DO MY BEST BIT OF RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND BRING THOSE BACK.
SO ABSOLUTELY. OTHER PROJECTS MAY.
>> WELL, THIS IS A STRANGE ONE I DON'T KNOW IF IT FITS, BUT I'M GOING TO MENTION IT.
IN A WAY RIVERWALK HAS ATTRACTED LIKE BOATS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND TAKING ACTIONS TO DISCOURAGE BECAUSE I THINK I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS SIX MONTHS BACK OR SOME STAFF HAD SHARED WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO CREATE AN AREA THAT'S CONDUCIVE FOR THAT AND IT HAS TO HAVE LAND WOULD ACCESS AND WHATEVER.
AGAIN, IT MAY NOT FIT IN THE CRA PLAN, BUT I THINK TO THE DEGREE THAT WE HAVE THE RIVERWALK HAS BECOME LAND WOULD ACCESS TO SOME DERELICT BOATS, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD TAKE SOME ACTION ON THAT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN WHAT IS IT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS A COUNCIL, BUT IN THE CRA PLAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL WE'RE DOING BECAUSE SOME OF THE DERELICT BOATS ARE CONFLICTING WITH OUR GOAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENT AND MITIGATION.
IT MAY NOT FIT INTO THE PROJECT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT WOULD BE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON DERELICT BOATS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T SOMETHING THAT COULD FIT INTO THIS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, SO YOU JUST TAKE IT AS AN ITEM [NOISE] AS YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE GOING TO THINK ABOUT THIS, THINK ABOUT THAT TOO.
CERTAINLY THE REMOVAL OF DERELICT VESSELS IS A PRIORITY THAT HAS BEEN EVIDENCED, EXPRESSED THROUGH ALL THE TOWNS DOCUMENTATION.
>> BUT WE'RE ATTRACTING THEM OR YOU HAVE A RIVERWALK WHERE THEY CAN, YOU COULD GO ALONG SOME SECTIONS OF RIVERWALK IN HIS BIKES TIED UP THERE PRETTY EASY TO FIGURE OUT.
THE BOAT YOU CAN SEE JUST ALL SHORTED COME IN.
IN FACT, IT COULD SAVE ALL OFTEN, HOW THEY GET TO AND FROM AND WHATEVER SO WE'RE ATTRACTING IT BUT NOT MANAGING IT.
>> NO MATTER WHERE YOU MORE, YOU CAN WROTE A SHORT TIME TO A MANGROVE AND HOP ON A TRAIL AND GO GET FOOD OR WHATEVER.
YOU'RE NOT IN THE WOODS OR SOMEONE'S PROPERTY.
THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE'RE ATTRACTING AND STUFF.
>> WORK WITH THE STAFF AND FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A PROGRAM WE CAN WRAP AROUND THAT CONCERN.
OTHER IDEAS OR THOUGHTS OR ISSUES THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD THIS VERY BROAD SCALE WHERE IT LIKE 20,000 FEET TO USE THE HACKNEYED PHRASE AND THEN WE'LL ZOOM DOWN A BIT FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKSHOP AND WHY DON'T I JUMP FORWARD JUST TO FRAME THAT DISCUSSION.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON DUE DILIGENCE FOR A FEW MONTHS WITH YOUR STAFF.
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MAYOR TO YOUR POINT, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THINGS COST YET, SO AS WE NARROW THE FOCUS OF THE PLAN DOWN, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE TOWN'S CONSULTING ENGINEERS TO BE ABLE TO PRICE PROJECTS OUT SO WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THOSE COST IMPLICATIONS ARE.WE'LL ALSO BE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THE AVAILABLE GRANT, OPPORTUNITIES, AND PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
AS A PLAN COMES BACK TO YOU, YOU'LL HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE AND HOPEFULLY A RESOURCE-BASED TO USE TO GO BRING THOSE DOLLARS IN.
AFTER TONIGHT'S WORKSHOP, WE WILL FURTHER REFINE THE SCOPE OF PROJECTS FOR DISCUSSION REALLY SO THAT WHEN WE GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP IN THE PROBABLY FEBRUARY ISH TIME-FRAME, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A MORE FOCUSED DISCUSSION WITH THE PUBLIC TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC FOR YOU.
AND THEN WORK WITH YOUR PLAN THROUGH THE BALANCE OF THE SPRING TO BRING A DOCUMENT BACK FOR YOUR REVIEW SOMETIME PROBABLY IN ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE SECOND QUARTER AND WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE THAT DRAFT CIRCULATED WITH YOUR STAFF HOPEFULLY BY APRIL OR SO, AND THEN BE READY FOR ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS AGAIN WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THAT DOCUMENT IN THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER.
THE GOAL IS THAT YOU'LL HAVE AN UPDATED CRA PLAN READY FOR ADOPTION BY THE TIME WE GET INTO THE SUMMER AND THAT IS THE OVERVIEW.
STAFF HAVE I COVERED EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO COVER FOR TONIGHT? OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL?
>> THANK YOU I THINK THERE'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL THE WAY I PUT THIS TOGETHER.
>> SUPER, SO I'LL CLOSE WITH MY COGGY ON MY KAYAK AND JUPITER.
>> MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH IS ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR OFF-SITE PARKING THE CRA LOT AND I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ONE.
>> YES, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ACTUALLY, WE JUST HAVE [BACKGROUND] JOANNE PERSAMY.
>> [NOISE] IF YOU WANTED TO PRESENTATION FIRST OR YOU DO WANT TO GO FIRST?
>> I'D LIKE TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK BECAUSE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK IS TO THE COUNCIL.
IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND I'M ASSUMING THIS IS BEING TELEVISED, MAYBE THAT'S AN INCORRECT ASSUMPTION, BUT IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING INTO YOUR MICROPHONES AND IF I GOT 20% OF WHAT YOU SAID TONIGHT AND I'VE GOT HEARING AIDS THAT ARE GOOD AND THEY'RE TUNED UP.
I BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION, I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD THAT CONTINUOUSLY SOMETIMES FROM THE AUDIENCE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE CRA, THE ROUNDTABLE HERE AND THAT IS LOOKING AT IT FROM WHO DO YOU SEE THE CUSTOMER BEING? I CONSIDER MYSELF ONE OF THE FORTUNATE, I LIVE OVER THERE.
LIVE ON THE OCEAN AND I'M SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE US JUST DISAPPEAR AND THE WAY THE BEACH HAS GONE THIS PAST YEAR, I THINK THEY MAY BE GETTING THEIR WISH.
BUT SERIOUSLY IS I LOOK AT, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DEFINE THE AVERAGE, BUT WHO'S THE CUSTOMER AND HOW DO THEY BENEFIT? AND TO ME, I LOOK AT THE TAXPAYERS OF JUPITER.
YOU ATTRACT A LOT OF SNOW BIRDERS AND TEMPORARY RESIDENTS DOWN HERE.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST IDENTIFY WHAT YOU SEE THE BENEFIT BEING AND MAYBE THE BENEFIT IS NOTHING BUT THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT'S GOING TO BE GENERATED BECAUSE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES, AND THEREFORE, THE HIGHER TAXES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PAID AND WHAT THE TOWN DOES WITH THE MONEY FOR THE FAMILIES.
THE RIVERWALK IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT HOW OFTEN DOES THE AVERAGE FAMILY TAKE THE KIDS AND WALK UP THE RIVERWALK.
THAT WAS THE TWO COMMENTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ITEM FOR MR. BERG, WHICH IS THE LOVE STREET MARKETPLACE.
MR. BERG IS VERY ILL TONIGHT WITH THE FLU, OTHERWISE HE WOULD BE HERE, SO HE DID ASK THAT I SEND HIS REGARD BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT TO HIM.
HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FACT OUR FIRST REQUEST OF THE TOWN WERE FROM NOVEMBER OF 2021,
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SO TWO YEARS AGO SO VERY IMPORTANT REQUEST.OUR PROJECT IS CALLED LOVE STREET MARKETPLACE OR LOVE STREET DONUTS AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD TONIGHT.
WE'RE NOT REQUESTING APPROVAL TONIGHT, WE'RE SIMPLY REQUESTING THE ABILITY TO PROCEED THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE YOUTH TO USE ANY PARKING SPACES.
WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, GO TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AND PRESENT THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE SPENT WELL OVER $100,000 ON TODAY.
OUR REQUEST IS RELATIVELY SIMPLE, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, NOT TONIGHT, BUT THE ABILITY TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR EIGHT DAYTIME SPACES.
THIS IS UNLIKE ANY OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE, WHICH ARE FOR THE EVENING HOURS.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A FAMILY-FRIENDLY, NON-ALCOHOL RELATED ESTABLISHMENT THAT WE THINK WILL BRING DIVERSITY AND BENEFIT.
OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOUR APPROVAL OF THAT TONIGHT, BUT THE ABILITY TO JUST SIMPLY MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU.
WE'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT, WE'RE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO BE PATIENT, WE ARE NO WAY ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO GET A HEAD OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON TONIGHT WITH YOUR RE-IMAGINATION OF INLET VILLAGE.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME ENCOURAGEMENT AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO START TO MOVE THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF MR. BERG, WHO WISH YOU WOULD BE HERE THIS EVENING AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
>> STEPHANIE THORBURN, AND MR. HARRY COVERED MUCH OF IT.
IT'S REALLY AUTHORIZATION IN ORDER TO PROCESS THE SEPARATE APPLICATION FOR A SMALL SCALE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND A SITE PLAN.
IT'S A LOT SOUTH OF SQUARE GROUPER ON LOVE STREET.
THERE'S ONE THAT A BUDGET AND THEN YOU SKIP THAT ONE AND THEN THAT'S THE LOT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS OF ADJACENCY, TOO, IT'S WITHIN 300 FEET OF OFF-SITE PARKING.
OFF-SITE PARKING REQUIRES AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE OFF-SITE PARKING WHO OWNS IT TO BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THAT REQUEST.
SO THAT'S REALLY ALL THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS SITE AS OPPOSED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PINK HOUSE.
PINK HOUSE PROVIDED THEIR PARKING ON-SITE.
THEY PROVIDED SIX PARKING SPACES, AND THE PROPOSAL THAT MR. HARRY WAS TALKING ABOUT IS TO RAISE THE BUILDING AND TO REPLACE IT WITH A TWO-STORY BUILDING.
BUT THE REQUEST IS FOR OFF-SITE PARKING. I'M DONE.
>> I HAD TURNED OFF, BUT I'M BACK ON.
>> THANK YOU. I GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON THIS ONE.
WE ALL GOT AN EMAIL, I THINK EARLIER TODAY, WHERE SOMEONE ASKED US, WELL, WHAT'S THE RULES HERE, HOW DO YOU GET ANY ORDER HERE AND HOW IS THIS ONE COMING IN ADVANCE OF THAT ONE, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THE ASK WAS, AND THE FACT THAT MAYBE DURING THE DAYTIME WE HAVE SPACES, IS THAT THE CASE?
>> YES, DURING THE DAY TIME THERE IS SPACE.
>> SO IN THIS CASE, CONCEIVABLY THIS IS A FIT.
BUT I SEE IT DOES NOT INCLUDE PURE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
WELL, THEY HAVE NIGHTTIME USE.
>> AND THE APPLICANT ON THAT SITE, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE QUASI JUDICIAL.
[OVERLAPPING] THEY ARE PROVIDING TWO SPACES, ALTHOUGH TANDEM, BUT TWO SPACES ON-SITE.
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>> IT WAS JUST SAID IT WAS LISTED HERE, SO THEY DON'T NEED PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT?
>> THEY PLAN ON PARKING ON-SITE FOR THOSE TWO SPACES FOR THE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
>> AND I APPRECIATE YOU CAME TO US HERE.
BUT IS THERE ANY GUIDELINES? HOW WOULD WE ANSWER SOMEWHERE IN THE PUBLIC ON HOW WE'RE PICKING WHO MIGHT GET SPACES HERE?
>> WE WOULD BRING THIS FORWARD UPON REQUEST.
SO LIKE THIS APPLICANT HAS DONE, I KNOW YOU HAD AN EMAIL TODAY, BUT I THINK THE USE THAT WAS PROPOSED WAS TO BE ON-SITE AT THE LOVE STREET RESTAURANT PROPERTY.
I'M PRETTY SURE I EMAILED HIM BACK TODAY ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION, BUT I DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT.
I WAS JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF SOMETHING CAME THROUGH.
BUT THAT REQUIRED AN AMENDMENT TO THE LOVE STREET APPROVAL, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM THEM ABOUT PURSUING IT.
THE SPACES I THINK WERE TO RUN SOMETHING AT THE MARINA.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH THAT.
BUT I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT.
>> AGAIN, I REALLY AN OFFER ONE HERE, BUT AGAIN, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.
CAN YOU CONFIRM WHAT I'M SAYING HERE.
THE TOWN COUNCILS, THE ONLY ONE.
BUT YOU ALREADY DO APPROVE A SITE PLAN, CORRECT?
>> UNLESS IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, BUT YES.
>> I UNDERSTAND. THERE'S JUST ONE NON ADMINISTRATIVE RIGHT.
THIS ONE IS NOT ADMINISTRATIVE.
SO IT WOULD REQUIRE THE COUNCIL, WHICH WERE NOT THE COUNCIL.
WE MAY LOOK LIKE THE GUY THAT SHOULD SAY I MIGHT WORK, BUT I'M CRA CHAIR HERE, DIFFERENT ROLE.
NOW I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S PRETTY CLEAR BECAUSE, NOW THE CRA WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD GRANT PARKING IF IN FACT WE WANTED TO, CORRECT?
>> YES. AND THIS ONE IS JUST AUTHORIZATION FOR OUR FILE TO SAY YOU HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THE APPLICATION SO THAT STAFF CAN REVIEW IT, THEN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEN IT WILL COME THROUGH THE COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT PER THE SECTION OF THE CODE.
>> EXCUSE ME ONCE. SO WE GIVE ON AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED, AND THEN IF THEY GET APPROVED, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GET THE PARKING SPACE?
>> NO. THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO SEE IF WHAT IS ON THEIR SITE PLAN IS ACCEPTABLE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, IF THEY GET APPROVAL FOR SITE PLAN, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN TO THE CRA TO GET THE LICENSING AGREEMENT.
>> THAT'S SIMILAR OR THE SAME REALLY AS HOW WE HANDLE ANY APPLICATION FOR OFF-SITE PARKING.
THEY WOULD GET A LETTER AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS FROM THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PERFECT THE THE LEASE FOR THAT PROPERTY, OR WHATEVER ARRANGEMENT THEY HAD.
AND AT THAT POINT, THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE OFF-SITE PARKING COULD SAY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR ARRANGEMENT WAS, I CHANGED MY MIND.
>> NO. BUT THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL BECAUSE WE WOULD PUT IT IN A CONDITION THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GET YOUR AGREEMENT FINALIZED.
>> THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
>> I'M GOING TO HIT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON.
I GUESS THIS IS PROBABLY STAFF OR HOW MANY SPACES ARE IN THAT PARKING LOT NOW?
>> DURING THE DAYTIME HOURS, THERE'S 165 AVAILABLE.
>> HAVE WE MADE AN AGREEMENT LIKE THIS WITH ANYBODY ELSE FOR INSTANCE?
>> WE HAVE 10 SPACES THAT ARE LICENSED FOR JUPITER OUTDOOR CENTER TO USE.
>> MY QUESTION WAS, HOW MANY AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE AT LEAST ARE LICENSED?
>> BECAUSE THE LICENSES THAT WE HAVE FOR GUANABANAS IS 115 SPACES.THEY START AT 04:30 PM, AND THEN THE ONES FOR CASTAWAY IS ALSO START AT 4:30 PM.
>> THEN PELICAN IS FULLY PARKED, RIGHT?
I KNOW THAT MAYBE WHAT THEY HAVE THE SPACIOUS FOR, BUT THERE'S DAY TIME.
THE COUNCIL WOULD PROBABLY ASK FOR
[3. Approving authorization for off-site parking in CRA Lot for Inlet Village Market.]
CLARIFICATION OF HOW MANY SPACES IN REALITY ARE THERE, RIGHT?>> I'M DOWN THERE A LOT DURING THE DAY IF YOU CAN'T FIND A PARKING SPACE.
IT'S TIGHT. I KNOW IT'S JUST TECHNICAL.
>> THEY ARE NON-EXCLUSIVE. SO THAT PUBLIC CONTINUES TO HAVE THE OPTION TO PARK THERE AT ANYTIME.
>> PEOPLE TAKE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE,
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WHICH I DO ALSO. THIS IS THE WAY IT GOES.>> THOSE SPACES, LIKE FOR GUANABANAS, THAT WAS REALLY A START-UP BUSINESS IN THE CRA.
SO THEY GOT THE BEST DEAL, PROBABLY TO SAY PERSONALLY PERHAPS AS A STARTUP.
SOMEBODY TOOK A RISK ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE CONCEPT THAT WAS THERE, AND THEY WERE GRANTED 115 SPACES, WHICH WAS THE MAJORITY OF THEIR REQUIREMENT.
>> HOW MANY SPACES ARE ON SITE, JUST THE TWO DWELLINGS? > AT THIS POINT THAT'S WHEN THEY ARE PLANNING.
>> I JUST WANTED TO CHECK ON THE EXCLUSIVITY.
IT'S FOR MEETING PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF DEVELOPMENT?
>> NEVER SEEN A TWO STORY [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE PROJECT THAT THE COUNCIL, SO I UNDERSTAND, HAS APPROVED SUBJECT TO USING THESE SPARKLING SPACES, THEIR PROPERTY OWNER IS AT R
>> SO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT?
>> YEAH. I THINK WE'VE HAD THREE AND FIVE-YEAR LEASES.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE ANYTHING BEYOND A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS ALSO A PROVISION FOR TERMINATION BY EITHER PARTY WHICH HAS A SHORTER PERIOD.
IF THE ATTORNEY MAY RECALL THAT I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME TERMS FOR TERMINATION OF THAT, THAT LEASE AS WELL.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PROPERTY OWNER RELIES ON THE LEASE, THEN THE LEASE IS TERMINATED, AND THEY DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THEIR BUSINESS, WHERE DO THEY GO?
>> IN THE CASE OF GUAN NEVADAS, THEY HAVE A CONDITION, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH GUAN NEVADAS, AS MOST OF THEIR SEATING IS OUTDOORS, SO IT'S NOT A BRICKS-AND-MORTAR TYPE USE PRIMARILY.
THEY WERE REQUIRED TO CONTRACT THEIR OUTDOOR SEATING OR ELIMINATE IT IN THE EVENT THEY LOST THE PARKING WORK TO FIND WHO THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEMPT TO FIND OR SECURE PARKING THAT WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THEIR APPROVAL OR COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER SOME ALTERNATIVE.
>> THAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD HAVE JUST TWO PARKING SPOTS ON THE PROPERTY, RIGHT?
>> YOU WOULD CONVERT BACK TO A RESIDENTIAL USE.
IT'S RESIDENTIAL TODAY, ALTHOUGH THE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE RISKS.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE DISCUSSION.
>> HOW ABOUT LIABILITY INSURANCE? WE HAVE A CLAUSE THAT DISSOLVES US.
>> THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PARKING LOT, BUT JOHN MIGHT KNOW.
>> I DON'T HAVE THE FORM OF THE LICENSE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S COVERED.
>> ARE THERE OTHER PRIVATE ARRANGEMENTS FOR SHARED PARKING.
ARE THERE OTHER OFFICE BUILDINGS? THIS IS THE DAYTIME USE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ARRANGEMENTS WITH PRIVATE PROPERTIES THERE FOR SHARED PARKING.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALWAYS BE THE TOWN LOT.
THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE.
>> THERE ARE MANY ARRANGEMENTS THAT EXIST THERE.
THE DIFFICULTY IS SOMETIMES THOSE AREN'T IN PERPETUITY BECAUSE THEY'D BECOME AN EASEMENT OR AN IMPAIRMENT ON TITLE.
BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF WHOLE TECH LEASES TO A LOT.
THERE ARE MANY PRIVATE ARRANGEMENTS OUT THERE THAT WORKED PRETTY WELL.
>> WELL, JOHN JUST SAID THE CRA PARKING LOTS ARE IN PERPETUITY THERE?
>> AGAIN, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US HERE?
>> WELL, THE PROCESS SEEMS BACKWARDS TO ME.
SEEMS LIKE YEAH, TO BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN.
IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR SHARED PARKING, YOU OUGHT TO KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THEY'RE DOING ONSITE AS COMPARED TO HOW MANY OFF-SITE AS COMPARED TO HOW MANY TOTAL SPACES ARE REQUIRED? THAT SEEMS TO ME THE PROCESS.
>> I THINK STAFF, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, WASN'T ALLOWED AN APPLICATION TO BE PROCESSED UNTIL THERE'S SOME SENSE THAT THE CRA MIGHT EVEN GIVE THIS CONSIDERATION.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT NOT RUNNING IT THROUGH THE COURSE WITHOUT COMING TO THE CRA.
THE AGENDA THOUGH SAYS APPROVING AUTHORIZATION.
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I'M JUST SPEAKING AT WHAT I'M CONSIDERING AND I WANT MY COLLEAGUES TO WEIGH IN, BUT I MIGHT CONSIDER PROVIDING SOME DIRECTION THAT I'M MAYBE OPEN TO THIS DEPENDENT UPON WHAT THE SITE PLAN INDICATES.BUT I'M NOT GOING TO AGREE TO APPROVE IT WITH SITE ON SCENE.
>> THE TERM AUTHORIZATION IS USED BECAUSE A STATEMENT OF AUTHORITY IS REQUIRED IN THE CODE FOR AN APPLICATION TO BE SUBMITTED.
>> NO, I APPRECIATE THAT, SO LONG AS IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE'RE CONDITIONING THAT OR SOMETHING, RIGHT?
>> WELL, IT GETS BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT WHAT ARE WE AUTHORIZING TONIGHT?
>> JUST FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPLICATION.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK.
>> THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO ACTUALLY GET APPROVAL OF A LICENSE.
>> THAT'D BE INCLINED TO PUT FORWARD A MOTION THAT SAYS WE'RE AUTHORIZING TO PROCEED WITH THE APPLICATION, BUT NOT AUTHORIZATION FOR THE OVERALL RESULTS.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE AUTHORIZING STRICTLY TO PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS.
>> SO THE COUNCIL CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AND ADVISE US.
>> THE AUTHORIZATION TO USE THE CRA PROPERTY.
WHAT IS THE AUTHORIZATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO PROVIDE?
>> THE AUTHORIZATION IS JUST TO PROVIDE A PIECE OF PAPER TO SAY YOU CAN INCLUDE THE REQUESTS.
YOU CAN REQUEST THE EIGHT OFFSITE SPACES IN THE CRA, BUT NOT APPROVAL OF THEM.
THAT APPROVAL WILL COME LATER BECAUSE WE REQUIRE A LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION FOR ANY PROPERTY THAT IS BEING SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW, WHETHER IT BE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE 1025.
>> WHAT IS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THEN? [OVERLAPPING] IS IT FOR THE CRA PARKING? THAT'S PART OF APPLICATION?
>> WHEN YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.
>> I UNDERSTAND MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE CODE AT LEAST IS IF YOU WANT TO USE SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION OF THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF YOUR PLAN.
IS THAT WHAT THIS AUTHORIZATION IS?
>> YOU ACTUALLY ARE ASKING THE CRA TO AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION THAT USES THE CRA PARKING LOT AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING?
>> THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR YOU. DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT?
>> BUT I HEARD I THINK IT WAS MR. SACKLER THAT SAID, IT'S IRREVOCABLE AUTHORIZATION.
>> YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE SPACES.
I THINK THE WAY YOU WORDED ORIGINALLY THAT YOU'RE AUTHORIZING THEM TO PROCEED WITH AN APPLICATION THAT INCLUDES UP TO EIGHT SPACES WITHIN THE CRA LOT.
>> LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
SAY THE SHELL STATION ON US1 WANTED AN AGREEMENT FROM, ALL THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLE, ANY OF THOSE TWO BUSINESSES, WOULD THAT'D BE A BINDING AUTHORIZATION? THE SHELL STATION GOT A LETTER FROM ALDI APPROVING SHARED USE.
>> I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR TOWN ATTORNEY.
>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR HYPOTHETICAL.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A PUBLIC PARKING LOT?
>> THESE WERE JUST TWO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.
ONE WAS ASKING THE OTHER PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL OR CORPORATION FOR SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.
WOULD THAT BE BINDING OR IS THAT DEPENDENT UPON THE CONTRACT THEY SIGN?
>> PRESUMABLY, THEY'D BE EXECUTING SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT.
WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED HERE IS, CAN WE USE YOUR PROPERTY FOR PURPOSES OF LAYING OUT A STATE PLAN THAT USES THAT PROPERTY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? IT'S AN ENDORSEMENT OF THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
AS YOU GO DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE SITE PLAN, IT'S TRUE THAT YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE SITE PLAN TONIGHT, BUT CLEARLY THE INTENT IS TO LOSE THE CRA PARKING LOT TO SATISFY THEIR PARKING DEMAND.
>> BUT I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SATISFY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY GET THE GREEN LIGHT FOR POTENTIAL AUTHORIZATION.
>> STAFF IS SAYING AND WE FILL OUT THE APPLICATION FORM FOR YOUR PROPERTY, YOUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
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IF YOU'RE NOT USING ALL OF YOUR PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO GET THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER'S AGREEMENT TO ALLOW YOU TO SOME PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY OWNER'S PROPERTY FOR YOUR APPLICATION, WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY OR IN THIS CASE, THE CRA ZONE PROPERTY.THE REQUEST IS CAN THEY FILL OUT AN APPLICATION THAT SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL AGREES TO LET THEM USE THE CRA PARKING LOT TO SATISFY PART OF THEIR PARKING DEMAND?
>> WELL, I WOULD THINK IN A PRIVATE AGREEMENT.
>> WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE AGREEMENT.
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THIS.
>> WE'RE TALKING SIMPLY ABOUT AN APPLICATION.
>> JUST TO ALLOW IT TO PROCEED.
CAN THIS ALL BE WITH CONTINGENCIES, LIKE THE SITE PLAN COULD BE CONTINGENT ON THE APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMISSION CONTINGENT ON THOSE, COUNCIL ON THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S ALL CONTINGENT, CAN ALL GO AWAY.
THEY MAY NOT END UP USING THE LOT.
THEY MAY USE ANOTHER LOT OR A PRIVATE LOT, OR THEY MAY DEVELOP IT ON THEIR OWN.
THIS COULD ALL BE MONTHS OF PROCESS AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL OR COMMISSION LEVEL.
BUT YOU'RE JUST SAYING THIS IS A MOTION TO PROCEED?
>> I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THIS, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON HOW WE FRAME.
I WILL SAY I KNOW IT'S TO DEGREE THAT WE'VE LEASED IT, BELIEVING WE'RE LEASING FOR THE PEAK USE WHICH IS EVENING.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DAYTIME SPACES AVAILABLE.
THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST DAYTIME SPECIFIC.
IS IT NOT USE THAT'S COMING IN?
>> JUPITER OUTDOOR CENTER HAS DAYTIME USE.
>> BUT AS I ASKED, AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE, WE WON'T KNOW TO THE SITE PLAN THE REAL STORY ON AVAILABILITY OF SPACES.
ALTHOUGH THERE'S A A GUT FEEL THAT THERE IS SOME BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT IN THE SITE PLAN.
LET'S BE SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE ALWAYS RUN INTO THIS ALL THE TIME.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT PARKING SPACES FOR DAYTIME USE.
THAT OUGHT TO BE IN THERE IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANY MOTION, AND IT'S SUBJECT TO IT HAVING A COMEBACK WHERE WE SEE A USE IN A SITE PLAN THAT WE FIND ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE CRA WOULD GRANT, YOU KNOW.
APPLICATIONS CAN TAKE ON LIVES AND MORPH INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
THIS IS SPECIFIC TO EIGHT SPACES, DAY TIME USE AND SUBJECT TO US SEEM A SITE PLAN THAT'S WORTHY OF USING PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PREMIUM.
>> MR. BARRETT, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS TODAY, ARE WE OPENING OURSELVES UP TO LITIGATION IN THE FUTURE IF WE BACKED OUT OF IT? BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SEND THE MONEY.
>> THERE'S NO LITIGATION THAT IS TO BE HAD.
IT'S SIMPLY GIVING NEAR A PROPERTY OWNER, THE CRA AS A PROPERTY OWNER.
WE'RE GIVING THEM THE AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT THIS APPLICATION USING YOUR PROPERTY AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION.
>> BUT THAT IS APPROVING THE RIGHT TO USE THE PROPERTY.
>> IT'S APPROVING THE RIGHT TO PLAN TO BE USED THE PROPERTY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO CONDITION IT SUBJECT TO US BELIEVING WHEN WE SEE THE SAME.
>> THEN THE APPLICATION GETS SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR REVIEW, ASSUMING COUNCIL SAYS THE EIGHT SPACES ARE OKAY, THEN THE CRA INTERESTS INTO A LEASE FOR THE EIGHT SPACES.
>> IF WE SAY NO, WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU YOUR AUTHORIZATION.
THEN THE OWNERS IS ON GOING TO FIND THE EIGHT SPACES ELSEWHERE.
>> NOW IF WE APPROVE IT TONIGHT AND THEN DISAPPROVE IT LATER ON.
>> YOU CAN'T APPROVE IT TONIGHT.
THERE'S NO MEANS IN FRONT OF YOU TO APPROVE.
>> THAT'S THE ANSWER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IF WE GIVE THE GREEN LIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD, IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
IF IT GETS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, AND IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO CRA, THEN THE CRA SAY OKAY, YOU CAN LEASE THE SPACES.
>> LEASE AGREEMENT HAS TO COME BACK, THE CRA.
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>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
>> I THINK JUST FOR THE RECORD OF THE CRA HAS BEEN ISSUING LICENSES AND NOT LEASES IN THE PAST, SO WHEN EVERYBODY REFERS TO LEASE, I THINK WE'RE REALLY TALKING LICENSE.
>> LICENSES ARE LESS OF A PROPERTY INTERESTS THAN A LEASE, WHICH MAKES IT MORE TENUOUS IN TERMS OF THE COMMITMENT.
>> WE HAD A MOTION, BUT IT WASN'T SECONDED.
>> WE MAY WANT TO SAY [OVERLAPPING] .
>> I WROTE IT DOWN IF YOU WANT ME TO.
>> I HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH AN APPLICATION, BUT NOT AUTHORIZATION OF APPROVAL OF A LICENSE FOR EIGHT DAYTIME PARKING SPACES TO BE REVIEWED BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN TOWN COUNCIL AND IF APPROVED, CRA APPROVAL OF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT.
>> I THINK ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS GIVE AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.
IT'S JUST TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.
WHAT THEY WIND UP SUBMITTING, WHO KNOWS WHAT IT WILL BE.
>> YOU'VE MADE THE MOTION ON WHAT?
>> ON WHAT WAS JUST SAID ABOUT THE AUTHORIZATION.
>> BY THE [INAUDIBLE] ATTORNEY?
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF I DON'T SEE YOU ALL, HAVE A WONDERFUL MERRY CHRISTMAS.
>> MERRY CHRISTMAS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> COUNCIL KURETSKI, THE LIGHTS OUT THERE LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
>> CHAIR, SHE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS.
>> I THINK MAYBE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT ANOTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU RIGHT NOW TODAY HAVE 175 SLOTS THERE FOR THE EVENING.
GUANABANA HAS 115 OF THEM, AND CASTAWAY 60, SO THERE'S NO ROOM TO GROW THERE UNLESS ONE OF THEM WOULD PULL OUT.
THE OUTDOOR CENTER HAS 10 DAYS.
NOW, I CAN'T FIND IN THE COPIES THAT I'VE MADE HERE, BUT SOMEWHERE IS TODAY I READ THAT THERE'S ALSO GOING TO COME WITH THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, SOME TYPE OF A REQUEST FOR SOME CONSIDERATION FOR NIGHT PARKING NOT BEING AVAILABLE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
MY CONCLUSION IS I COME HERE AND I SAY TO YOU, I THINK THAT YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK TO THE NEXT POINT AND WHAT HAPPENS.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYMORE.
I LOOK AT THE NAMES HERE AND APPEARS LIKE THE SPOTS WERE DESIGNATED FOR WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER BUSINESSES THAT WERE ALREADY OPERATING IN THE AREA, AND THEN SOMEHOW TO GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH HOW YOU WANT IT TO GO AND MANAGE PARKING ET CETERA THERE.
IF INDEED THIS DEVELOPMENT THEN IS GOING TO COME AND ASK FOR SOME TYPE OF A PARTIAL EVENING WAIVER BECAUSE SHE CAN'T GIVE IT TO THEM FROM HERE.
I REALLY THINK BEFORE YOU CHEW ANYTHING, YOU GET THE WHOLE PICTURE.
>> THEN THE NOC NOTATION WE HAVE BEFORE US IS DAY TIME PERIOD.
>> L BELIEVE THE ULTIMATE APPLICATION WAS SPELL OUT SOME MORE.
>> IT IS GOING TO BE SPREAD OUT.
BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS LOOKING AT THIS HERE, YOU HAVE NO SPACE TO GIVE.
>> AGREED. WE'RE RELYING UPON DOCUMENTATION THAT CLEARLY SAYS DAY TIME ONLY.
>> THAT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY SEE THAT IN ATTACHMENT A? SINCE THEY TERMINALLY.
>> WE'RE DISCUSSING THE SITE PLANS FOR NOW.
>> IT'S APPLICATIONS, SO ONLY TALKING ABOUT AN APPLICATION.
>> IT WAS IN OUR MEMO JUST THAT THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION AND THAT INCLUDES REQUESTS FOR WAVING EVENING PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RETAIL USE.
BUT THAT'S SUBJECT TO TOWN COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
>> THAT TOWN COUNCIL OR THAT OTHER BODY. [LAUGHTER]
>> COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, ANY?
>> THE TIME IS NOW 8:34. WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.