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>> [BACKGROUND] GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 07:00 PM AND I

[Call to Order]

CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

ALL PLEASE RISE.

>> DEAR GOD, HELP US FULFILL OUR DUTIES.

GIVE US CLARITY OF MIND AND COURAGE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AMEN. LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

>> JOIN ME IN PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]. A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> MAYOR KRESGE.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR DELANEY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNSELOR MAY.

>> HERE

>> COUNSELOR SAMSTRON,.

>> HERE.

>> TOWN MANAGER CATER.

>> HERE

>> TOWN ATTORNEY BAIRD.

>> HERE.

>> GOOD. TONIGHT, WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.

[1. Ordinance 16-23, Second Reading, Approval of 2024 Millage Rate.]

IN SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON ADOPTING OUR BUDGET MILLAGE RATE.

WE BEGIN WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THAT, AND I TURN ON THE STAFF.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS YOU JUST INDICATED, THIS IS THE FINAL HEARING OF TONIGHT ON THE FY24 BUDGET PROPOSAL.

I APOLOGIZE.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THE CLICKER TO WORK.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER TO DEVELOP THE FY24 BUDGET.

WE HAD A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS STARTING IN JUNE FOR THE OPERATIONS BUDGET.

IN JULY, WE DISCUSSED THE TRIM WHICH YOU ALL SET, ACTUALLY 3% LOWER THAN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WHICH WE'RE IN.

WE ALSO HAD A WORKSHOP IN AUGUST TO DISCUSS THE TOWN'S CIP AND ANY CHANGES THAT ARE DEVELOPED IN THE OPERATIONS BUDGET SINCE THE WORKSHOP.

THEN WE HAD OUR FIRST HEARING ON THE 5TH OF SEPTEMBER.

NOW WE'RE HERE AT THE FINAL HEARING OF THE BUDGET.

SOME OF THE BUDGET OBJECTIVES AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR WHAT WE'RE READY TO ADOPT THIS EVENING OR BEING PROPOSED FOR ADOPTION.

WE HAVE A 3% REDUCTION IN THE TOWN MILLAGE IS BEING PROPOSED, AND AGAIN THAT WAS SET IN JULY.

AD VALOREM TAXES ARE HIGHER DUE TO FORECASTED INCREASES IN THE PROPERTY VALUES AND OBVIOUSLY SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IN RELATION TO EXPENDITURES, THERE'S A PROPOSAL OF 5% INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE SALARIES.

WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER MOVING FROM AN 80/20 SPLIT TO A 90/10 SPLIT AND THE HEALTHCARE PREMIUMS FOR THE TOWN EMPLOYEES.

ALSO, THERE HAS BEEN SOME INCREASES IN RELATION TO THE FRS BENEFITS THAT IS SET BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.

ALSO THE CONTINUATION OF THE PD UNION SALARY INCREASES THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE UNION CONTRACT LAST YEAR.

ALSO, WE NOTICED THE INCREASES AS ALL HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I HAVE RECEIVED INCREASES IN THE LIABILITY INSURANCE AND PROPERTY INSURANCE, SO WE'VE ALSO INCORPORATED THOSE AND RECOGNIZE THOSE INCREASES.

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PROPERTY VALUES IN THE TOWN.

YOU CAN SEE 23-24, THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF $1.7 BILLION.

ACTUALLY ALMOST 1.8 BILLION, THAT CONSISTS OF 68 MILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S LESS THAN A HALF OF PERCENT.

IF YOU REMEMBER RIGHT, IT WAS JUST OVER 1% LAST YEAR, SO WE'RE AT BUILD-OUT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, ABOUT THE TOWN IS REACHING BUILD-OUT.

THIS IS A GOOD INDICATOR OF THAT IN RELATION TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION NUMBERS GOING DOWN EACH YEAR BUT THE VALUATION INCREASE.

THERE WAS A 12.23% AND NEW VALUES INCREASES TOTAL OF 12.71% INCREASE.

THE PROPOSED MILLAGE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN RELATION TO THE ROLLBACK RATE? YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED MILLAGE AT 2.3894 WITH A ROLLBACK OF 2.2012.

YOU CAN SEE THE FUNDS THAT WE'D BE BROUGHT IN BY EACH OF THOSE NUMBERS, AND THE PROPOSED AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE IS $2.8 MILLION MORE OVER THE STATE MANDATED ROLLBACK CALCULATION.

TOTAL OF 8.55% OVER ROLLBACK.

FOR THE BUDGET ITSELF, IN TOTAL, THE PROPOSED FY24 OPERATING BUDGET REPRESENTS A $7.4 MILLION INCREASE OVER FY23.

OF THAT 7.3 MILLION IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE GENERAL FUND PRIMARILY DUE TO SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR EMPLOYEES, PROPOSED NEW POSITIONS, PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, AND ALSO CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER RELATED TO ROGER DEAN STADIUM.

THERE'S ALSO A $691,000 INCREASE IN THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM.

THE WATER FUND IS RECEIVING A 7% INDEXING DUE TO INFLATIONARY PRESSURES.

YOU ALL JUST ADOPTED THAT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ALONG WITH A 7% ON STORM-WATER, 6.5 FOR THE INDEX RATE AND 0.5% ADJUSTMENT FOR INFLATION.

GENERAL FUND REVENUES, AGAIN, $7.3 MILLION INCREASE OVER FY23.

THERE WAS THE INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUES WHICH RESULTS IN ABOUT $2.4 MILLION INCREASE AVALON REVENUE, $1.2 MILLION INCREASE IN FRANCHISE FEES DUE TO FPL RATE INCREASES.

THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THE COLLECTIONS FOR INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES OF $940,000 DUE TO SALES TAX AND STATE SHARE REVENUES.

INCREASES OF $567,000 AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES PRIMARILY DUE TO THE SOLID WASTE SURCHARGE, REVENUE AND ALLOCATION COST.

THERE'S ALSO AN INCREASE OF 835,000 AND INTERESTS EARNINGS.

ALSO THE $750,000 RESERVE FUNDING FOR THE ROGER DEAN STADIUM CONTRIBUTION THAT WE'D ALREADY DISCUSSED.

FOR THE EXPENDITURES, YOU CAN SEE HERE [NOISE] THAT THE PRIMARY DRIVERS OF SOME OF THE COSTS ARE PRIMARILY THE SALARY AND THE BENEFITS THAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE TOWN EMPLOYEES.

FOR THE WATER FUND, WE START OUT WITH A BAIT BASE INCREASE ASSUMPTION OF 3%+1.5% INCREASE DUE TO INFLATIONARY AND ADJUSTMENTS OF 2.5.

RECAPTURE INFLATION COSTS, IMPACTS AND CAPITAL REINVESTMENT FOR A TOTAL OF 7%.

AGAIN, THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.

WE'RE ALSO ASSUMING A 1/2% GROWTH IN CUSTOMERS, NOW THE WATER UTILITY CAN OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THE CORPORATE BOUNDARIES OF THE TOWN, SO WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SAYING WHERE THE TOWN IS BUILT OUT.

WE CAN ALSO ASSUME CUSTOMERS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE TOWN.

WE'RE ASSUMING A $512,000 AND THE USE OF RETAINED EARNINGS TO HELP BALANCE THE BUDGET.

BUT AGAIN, FOR THE EXPENSES, THE 5% SALARY INCREASES FOR THE EMPLOYEES EQUATES TO $263,000.

THE 90/10 SPLIT FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUM, THAT'S ALSO AN INCREASE.

WE HAVE SOME NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING ALLOCATED WITHIN THE WATER FUND.

WE'VE ALSO NOTICED A REDUCTION IN THE DEBT SERVICE IS [NOISE] $744,000.

THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE IN UTILITY COST.

WE UNDERSTAND WHY, THERE'S BEEN INCREASES IN EVERYBODY EVEN AT THEIR HOME, UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE'S BEEN INCREASES OF ENERGY.

CHEMICAL COST, WE ACTUALLY SAW A REDUCTION THERE.

WE'RE SEEING SOME EASING FROM THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, $474,000 REDUCTION OVER FY2023.

THEN THE PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INCREASES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

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FOR THE STORM WATER FUND TOTAL OF 7% INCREASE, 6 AND 1/2 FOR THE INFLATIONARY COSTS, THE CPU AND THE 0.5% FOR THE CAPITAL REINVESTMENT AND 0.2% CUSTOMER GROWTH, AND ALSO $370,000 COMING FROM RETAINED EARNINGS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.

AGAIN, ON THE EXPENSES, SAME ITEMS RELATING TO THE SALARY INCREASES FOR EMPLOYEES.

THE HEALTH INSURANCE [NOISE] OPTION MOVING FROM AN 80/20-90/10 SPLIT.

ALSO MOVING TO OUTSOURCING, CLEANING AND THE VIDEOING OF THE TOWN OWN DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, WHICH INCREASED $170,000 OVER FY23.

WE'VE ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION THIS IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, BUT WE WERE ADDING ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO ASSIST WITH ALL THE CIP THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

WE JUST NEED SOME ADDITIONAL HELP THERE TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE ON TIME.

WE HAVE ALSO ADOPTED THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT, AND WE TOLD THE COUNCIL THAT ONCE THAT HAPPENED, YOU WOULD START TO SEE THIS EVERY YEAR DURING THE BUDGETARY PROCESS SO, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT IS.

THIS YEAR IT'S $23,670.

THE BUILDING FUND.

WE DO HAVE ONE-OFF PROJECTS THAT ARE OCCURRING WITHIN THE FUND.

WE'RE SHOWING A $200,000 INCREASES NOW THESE ARE LARGE PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THINGS LIKE THE HOSPITAL, ROGER DEAN STADIUM.

WE MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS RELATING TO THE STADIUM CONSTRUCTION.

THESE ONETIME PROJECTS WILL INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF PERMIT REVENUES THAT WE'RE RECEIVING.

WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT INCREASE OF $200,000 OVER FY2023.

INTEREST EARNINGS, SAME SCENARIOS, THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE SEEING AN UPTICK IN INTEREST EARNINGS AND A SMALL USE OF RETAINED EARNINGS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.

EXPENSES ACTUALLY DECREASED OVER FY2023 BY $126,000.

THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO REDUCTION IN ONETIME CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS THAT OCCURRED IN FY2023 AND THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND.

WE'VE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND.

IT'S DOING VERY WELL.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THE FUND BALANCE WILL INCREASE OVER $9 MILLION NEXT YEAR AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE SITTING AROUND $8 MILLION.

CLAIMS COSTS ARE REMAINING STABLE.

WE WATCHED THAT MONTHLY AS THE CLAIMS COME IN.

WE BALANCED THAT FUND SO WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE CLAIMS COSTS ARE GOING TO REMAIN STABLE, GO IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE GOAL OF $10 MILLION.

I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT TO YOU NEXT YEAR WHEN WE'RE STANDING HERE AT THE BUDGET THAT WE COME IN CLOSE TO REACHING THAT GOAL.

THE CIP FUNDING FROM FY2024, WHICH WE'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE INTO THE FY28, JUST OVER $83 MILLION WITH ALL THE FUNDS $22.2 MILLION IN FY24.

WE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT A NUMBER OF THESE PROJECTS WE ACTUALLY MOVED SOME UP DURING THE WORKSHOP, IF YOU REMEMBER RIGHT, SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO PLAYGROUNDS, THERE IS A LARGE EMPHASIS ON PLAYGROUND REHAB AND ALSO CONSTRUCTION OF NEW PLAYGROUNDS.

WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING TO COMPLETE ONE.

IT'S ACTUALLY A CDBG PROJECT THAT SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN, STATED THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE AN EMPHASIS IN THAT AREA.

THIS BUDGET REFLECTS THAT.

IN SUMMARY, STAFF IS SEEKING FINAL APPROVAL ON SECOND READING OF THE PROPOSED OPERATING MILLAGE OF 2.3894, AND A DEBT SERVICE RATE OF 0.1330 THROUGH ORDINANCE 16-23.

WE'RE ALSO SEEKING FINAL APPROVAL ON SECOND READING OF THEIR PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM THROUGH ORDINANCE 17-23, AND OF COURSE THE THE HEARING RELATING TO THE ADOPTION OF THE TOWN'S FY24 OPERATING BUDGET AND PAY PLAN THROUGH RESOLUTION 94-23.

>> THANK YOU. MS. COUNCIL, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON AN AGENDA ITEMS 1, 2 AND 3?

>> NO, MA'AM.

>> GOING BACK TO COUNCIL, MAY HAVE A MOTION ON ORDINANCE 1623.

>> MOTION TO APPROVED.

ORDINANCE 1623 AND SECOND READING.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND AND ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ IT ON SHORT TITLE.

>> ORDINANCE 16, 23 AND ORDINANCE AT THE TOWN COUNCIL.

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THAT'S HOW JUPITER, FLORIDA ADAPTING THE MILLAGE RATE TO BE LEVIED BY THE TOWN OF JUPITER ON TAXABLE, REAL AND TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE TOWN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2024, STATING THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE, STATING THE PERCENT BY WHICH THE MILLAGE RATE EXCEEDS IF ANY, OF THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE RATE AND LOVING ADD VALOREM TAXES ON ALL TAXABLE, REAL, AND TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

CAN I HAVE MOTION ON RESOLUTION 94, 23.

[2. Resolution 94-23, Approving the 2024 Fiscal Year Operating Budget and Pay Plan.]

>> MOTION TO APPROVED RESOLUTION 94, 23.

>> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON RESOLUTION 94, 23.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO ORDINANCE 17,23.

[3. Ordinance 17-23, Second Reading, Approval of Fiscal Year 2024-2028 Community. Investment Program.]

APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 17, 23 ON SECOND READING.

>> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ THAT ORDINANCE ON SHORT TITLE

>> ORDINANCE 17, 23, IN ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, AN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO UPDATE THE FIVE-YEAR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM INCLUDED WITHIN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT NOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROVIDING FOR THEIR ILL OF LAWS AND CONFLICT PROVIDERS FOR SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

THIS IS THE POINT OF THE PORTION OF THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS, AND IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME IS ASKED TO GO TO THE PODIUM, STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND STREET ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PRIOR TO ADDRESING TOWN COUNCIL.

GENERALLY, THE TOWN COUNCIL'S POLICY TO POLICE THE PUBLIC CITIZEN COMMENTS PERIOD, EARLY ON HER AGENDA, TO GIVE OUR CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THE SCHEDULED AGENDA TOPICS OF TOWN BUSINESS IS GENERALLY OUR PRACTICE TO LISTEN TO THE SYSTEM OR COMMENTS, TAKE PERSONAL MODES FOR FOLLOW-UP ACTIONS AT A LATER TIME.

DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> YES, YOU DO. FIRST WE HAVE WAYNE POSNER, AFTER WAYNE IS GOING TO BE LINDA MCDERMOTT.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT SCREEN 15, KARINA DR. JUPITER, FLORIDA.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL WITH MUCH RESPECT.

AS AN OBSERVER, I LOOKED AT THE TOWN CHARTER AND I KNOW TODAY IS THE DAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO CHOOSE SOMEONE FOR THE VACANT SEAT OR THEY MAY NOT.

PART 1, ARTICLE 5, SECTION 4C, CLEARLY STATES THAT AFTER TWO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS, IF A REPLACEMENT IS NOT AGREED UPON BY THE REMAINDER COUNCIL, A SPECIAL ELECTION SHALL BE HELD.

WELL, WE HAD TWO REGULAR MEETINGS.

WE HAD ONE AUGUST THE 15TH AND ONE SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH.

I THINK THIS MAY BE IN AND I THINK AS AN OBSERVER, NOT AN ATTORNEY, THIS MAY BE IN VIOLATION OF THE CHARTER.

I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU DO THIS CHOOSING TONIGHT.

ALSO IT SAYS THE WORD SHALL BE HELD.

SHALL IS A COMPULSION AND OBLIGATION, AND IT'S STRONGER THAN THE WORD WILL, AND IT'S USUALLY IN LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

I THINK MR. BAIRD WOULD SAY THE SAME ABOUT THE WORD SHALL.

IF NOT FOLLOWED, I WOULD HOPE THAT COUNCIL WILL CHOOSE SOMEONE WHO HAS AT LEAST ATTENDED COUN COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHO HAS SOME EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING A MEETING AND HAS HAD SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS FORMAT.

I WOULD LIKE NOT TO SEE SOMEONE GET A FREE RIDE AND GET UP AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT HASN'T REALLY FOUGHT FOR THE POSITION.

ANYONE DOES, WHEREVER IS CHOSEN, SHOULD MORE IN A RUN AND LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT IN THAT SEAT EVENTUALLY.

IT'D BE BEHOOVE THE TOWN COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MAKE THE PROPER DECISION IN THAT REGARD.

DJFRD IS AN HISTORIC MOMENT.

I THINK THAT HISTORIC MOMENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF.

I THINK YOU GUYS DID AN AMAZING JOB.

AGAIN, AS AN OBSERVER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE COULD BE WORKING AND IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL AGAINST CAM.

I HAPPEN TO LIKE HIM A LOT, BUT, WHY HE DIDN'T GET RECUSED WHEN HE WORKS FOR THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I JUST NEVER GOT UNDERSTOOD THAT.

MR. DELANEY, MR. MORESCHI, AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS ALL HAVE RECUSED THEMSELVES WHEN EVEN THERE WAS A QUESTION OF A CONFLICT,

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THEN I'M PROUD THAT THEY DID THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO FORGET. IN RESTON STREET WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING IT FOR FIVE YEARS.

THE WATER AND STORE AND GOT 7% INCREASES.

MAYBE WE CAN FIX THIS STREET.

FINALLY, LET'S DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE, NOT ARGUE AMONGST EACH OTHER AND TRY TO GET SOMETHING DONE FOR THE PEOPLE AND REMOVE THE EQUIPMENT.

PLEASE, FOR MY OLD TOWN HALL AVENUE.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND PUBLIC.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, FAMILY.

PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE IS THE ISSUE.

I REALLY THINK THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US STAY WITH THEM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE EITHER A SURVEY OR SOME SUPPORT, A VOTE, SOME INPUT.

MY CONCERN IS I DID GO BACK TO ALL OF THE AGENDAS AND THERE SEEMS TO BE THERE WAS A FIRST HEARING, BUT THERE NEVER WAS A SECOND.

THERE WAS A FIRST READING.

I DON'T SEE A SECOND READING, BUT I DO SEE JULY 20TH.

ORDINANCE 15-23, FIRST READING, AMENDING ORDINANCE 12-22, TOWN OF JUPITER EXTEND PARTICIPATION AND JUPITER MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT TO FINANCE THE PROVISION OF FIRE RESCUE SERVICES BY PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

FIVE-YEAR TERM CHANGE TO TENURE TERM.

SECOND READING IS TO BE AUGUST 3RD,'23. NEVER SAW A SECOND.

BACK IN APRIL YOU ALL AGREED AND STATED SPECIFICALLY THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY TO RECEIVE FIRE PROTECTION AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES FROM THE COUNTY THROUGH THE JUPITER MSTU IS APPROPRIATE.

I UNDERSTAND HAVING THIS STUDY, IT'S THE PRUDENT THING TO DO FOR FINANCE ON ANY BIG CONTRACT.

A LOT OF TIMES THAT DOES SET IN MOTION MAYBE A DECISION THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE AFTER YOU GET THE INFORMATION.

IN JANUARY THERE WAS A PRESENTATION FOR FEASIBILITY STUDY.

I'VE GOT NO ISSUE THERE.

MY ISSUE IS THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC.

THERE WAS NO STUDY, NO NOTHING TO INVITE THE PUBLIC.

I HAVE FRIENDS WHO WILL LISTEN TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, NOT LOOK ON.

IF YOU LISTEN AND EVERYTHING'S ON CONSENT AGENDA, YOU DON'T HEAR THE DISCUSSIONS AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT THIS GROUP HAS NOW.

BUT I WANT TO KNOW I GUESS THE SECOND HEARING TO VOTE NEVER HAPPENED.

ALL YOU DID IS HEAR OUR DISCUSSIONS, SOME OF OUR COMPLAINTS.

AGAIN, I'VE NEVER BEEN AGAINST A COMMUNITY WANTING TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN FOR FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS.

BUT THIS IS ONE THING THAT WAS PUBLIC HEALTH.

WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST AND I JUST DON'T SEE DOING IT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER MORE IMPORTANT THINGS.

HERE WE HAD RESOLUTION 97-23, APPROVING THE CONTRACT AWARD FOR THE CONTRACTUAL CONSULTING SERVICES FOR CPSM.

AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST THAT.

HOWEVER, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR MORE OF THE PUBLIC OR BRING IT TO A VOTE AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT WAIT TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT TAKES A YEAR-AND-A-HALF TO GET A FIRE TRUCK.

[NOISE] I'M JUST SAYING WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE? [APPLAUSE]

>> MISS GHRELIN AND THEN BOBBY ROGERS.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LISA GHRELIN, AND I LIVE IN THE HEIGHT'S.

FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IN RECOGNITION OF FIREFIGHTER APPRECIATION MONTH, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE IN SEPTEMBER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE WATCHING AND TO THOSE WHO ARE BUSY SAVING THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY AND ELSEWHERE.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU.

NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

I'M DISAPPOINTED AT THE LACK OF RESPECT THAT 75% OF THIS COUNCIL SHOWED TO THE RESIDENTS WHO APPEARED BEFORE YOU AT THE LAST MEETING.

WE CAME TO YOU WITH OUR CONCERNS AND OUR THOUGHTS, BUT YOU IGNORED US.

ONCE AGAIN, YOU PROVED THE POINT THAT YOU WILL DOUBLE DOWN AND NOT LISTEN.

INSTEAD, YOU READ OFF YOUR COMMENTS THAT YOU POSTED EARLIER IN THE WEEK WITH NO CONSIDERATION ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT MADE THAT EVENING.

CHIEF KENNEDY EVEN PROVIDED YOU WITH ERRORS IN THE REPORT PROVIDED BY THE CONTRACTOR YOU HIRED, AND YOU IGNORED HIM TOO, AND THEN YOU GAVE EACH OTHER VERBAL HIGH-FIVE, SAYING JOB, WELL DONE.

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DO YOU CONSIDER THIS OUTCRY A JOB WELL DONE? BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DON'T.

OTHERS STOOD BEFORE YOU TO TELL YOU ALL SORTS OF OTHER FACTORS THAT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN CONSIDERED, SUCH AS DISPATCH TRAININGS, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

LASTLY, I WANTED TO DISCUSS THE SPACE IN WHICH YOU PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE ALL DISCOVERED WILL NOT WORK.

THEN YOU BACKTRACK AND SAY THAT THIS WAS JUST CONCEPTUAL.

YOU'VE ONCE AGAIN PROVED THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW DISASTER PLANNING WORKS.

YOU DON'T GO INTO A DISASTER WITHOUT A PLAN.

THAT IS JUST A PLAN TO FAIL.

ANY PUBLIC SAFETY SERVANT OR CITIZEN CAN TELL YOU THAT.

YOU FAILED THE MISSION AND YOU FAILED THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF THIS TOWN.

JUST TO REITERATE TO YOU ONE MORE TIME, WE DON'T WANT THIS.

PUT IT TO A VOTE AND WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS NOT A CYBERSECURITY ALERT.

[APPLAUSE]

>> HI AGAIN. I'M BOBBY ROGERS.

I LIVE AT 140 FLORIDA AVENUE.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS.

I'M A REGISTERED NURSE.

I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.

I'M HERE JUST TO TRY TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND HOW DISRUPTIVE THAT CONSTRUCTION SITE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM MY HOME.

I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU OUT TO LUNCH AND SO THAT YOU CAN BRING YOUR BOOTS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PARK IN MY DRIVEWAY.

BRING CONES TO PARK HERE TO PROTECT YOUR CARS.

BECAUSE I HAVE TO WORK IN THE ROAD.

BRING A MASK, IT'S SO DUSTY.

BRING YOUR HEARING, BRING YOUR EARPLUGS.

YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

WE WON'T HAVE A CONVERSATION.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK.

IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PARK.

IT'S NOT ANYMORE. MY DAUGHTER, ALL THE FRIENDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD USED TO CALL IT PEACEFUL PARK.

THERE'S NO PEACE. THANKS. [APPLAUSE]

>> [INAUDIBLE] AFTER NADINE, IT'S GOING TO BE KAREN VINSON.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M NADINE BURNS.

I LIVE AT 207 WOOD LAKE DRIVE IN JUPITER.

AGAIN, I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU ASKING YOU TO RECONSIDER.

IN THIS CHAMBER, I CAME WHEN THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY OR TRASH PICKUP ONE OF THE BEST I THINK IN THE COUNTY.

WE GET EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE.

YOU GUYS BROUGHT THAT BACK.

PART OF YOU WERE ON THAT COMMISSION.

YOU BROUGHT THAT BACK.

YOU REALIZED WHAT RESIDENTS WANTED AND YOU LISTENED.

I'M BEGGING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.

GO OUT TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND GET INFORMATION.

I'M WALKING THE STREETS, TALKING TO NEIGHBORS.

THEY ARE ASTOUNDED THAT YOU'VE MADE THIS CHANGE.

NUMBER 1, THEY THOUGHT THAT YOU OWN THE BUILDINGS.

THEY THOUGHT YOU OWN ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND WE JUST CHANGED STAFF.

EASY-PEASY. THEY ALL UNDERSTAND THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS AND BUILDING.

SHOW ME WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THESE FIRE STATIONS ON THIS FREE PROPERTY? OR ARE WE GOING TO SACRIFICE AGAIN SOMETHING ELSE? PARK SPACE, OPEN LAND, OTHER THINGS THAT WE HOLD OF GREAT VALUE HERE IN JUPITER.

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLY ENCAPSULATED IN A FEASIBILITY STUDY? WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR A SERVICE THAT'S GOING TO BE ONGOING.

IF THE TRUCK IS DOWN, ANOTHER TRUCK COMES, THERE'S NO QUESTION.

THERE'S NO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A RESPONSE AND HOW QUICK THAT RESPONSE IS TO ANY OF YOU EXCEPT ONE, EVEN KNOW HOW MANY CALLS FOR SERVICE THERE ARE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW BUSY AND HOW HARD THESE GUYS AND GALS WORK FOR US? I MEAN, THEY GIVE IT THEIR ALL FOR US AND THEY DELIVER IT CONSISTENTLY IN A HIGH-QUALITY FASHION.

MY NEIGHBORS DESERVE TO MAKE THOSE CALLS AND BE ASSURED THAT THEY'RE HAVING QUALITY PEOPLE, QUALITY SERVICE PROVIDED AT THEIR DOOR.

PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS.

YOU GOT A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

HE GAVE YOU WHAT YOU WANTED.

HOW ABOUT LOOKING AT THE REAL COST? TELL ME WHERE THIS IS GOING, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST US, AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FINANCE IT? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO US IF YOU BOND.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND SAY, CAN WE TAX YOU FURTHER SO WE CAN DO THIS? YOU HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY IN RESERVES.

I WOULD HOPE A CITY WASN'T ALLOWED TO KEEP THAT MUCH MONEY.

THAT'S REALLY MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE.

HOW IS IT GOING TO BE DONE? YOU HAVE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONVINCE ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BETTER VALUE THAN WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO CONVINCE ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN EQUAL OR BETTER QUALITY OF SERVICE THAN WE DO RIGHT NOW.

PLEASE LOOK AT IT AND RECONSIDER.

GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASK RESIDENTS, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE THIS CHANGE? DO YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD? ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT YOUR PURSE ON IT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT OUR PURSE ON IT BECAUSE

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YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH $10.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> HI. I'M KAREN VINSON, 1003 STREET.

HONORABLE MAYOR, COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AGAIN.

I DON'T MAKE A HABIT OF ADDRESSING THE TOWN COUNCIL.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 28 YEARS AND I ASSUME THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR WAS HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RESIDENTS OF JUPITER, APPARENTLY I'VE BEEN WRONG FOR 28 YEARS.

THEY'VE DECIDED ON A DECISION FOR 61,000 RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER ABOUT THEIR LIFE AND THEIR DEATH, QUALITY OF CARE THAT THEY RECEIVE BY FIRE COUNTY RESCUE THAT SHOULD BE MADE BY THREE PEOPLE, 61,000 PEOPLE.

I WILL BE AT AS MANY MEETINGS AS I CAN TO ADDRESS THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME.

YOU PROCLAIM TO TRANSPARENCY LAST TIME VERY EMINENTLY.

I WOULD NOT BE HERE IF YOU HAD BEEN TRANSPARENT.

ANYONE CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THE MEETINGS.

WHEN YOU MADE YOUR VOTE, THE TOWN MANAGER WAS NOT EVEN SURE THAT SHE MADE A VOTE.

IT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA, IT WAS ON THE AGENDA AS A PRESENTATION.

AT THE END OF THE MEETING, ANYBODY CAN GO BACK AND WATCH IT.

HE HAD TO ASK YOU GUYS, I NEED CLARIFICATION AND DIRECTION FOR WHAT I'M DOING.

AND THAT'S ALMOST A QUOTE, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAD VOTED BECAUSE THE MAYOR JUST BASICALLY SAID, YEAH, DO THIS, CANCEL THAT CONTRACT.

IN THE END HAD TO COME BACK AND THEN IT'S LIKE, OH, I GUESS WE HAVE TO DO A VOTE BECAUSE HE NEEDED CLARIFICATION.

HOW IS THAT RIGHT? HOW IS THAT TRANSPARENT? IT WAS NOT LISTED THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT.

MAYOR DECLARED IT BE DONE.

THAT'S NOT TRUMP TRANSPARENCY.

AFTER THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A LOT OF BACKPEDALING ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

WHEN YOU INDICATED THAT TIME WAS AN ISSUE, THAT WOULD BE YOU MRS. LUNDSTRUM, THAT TIME WAS AN ISSUE THAT YOU ONLY HAD THREE WEEKS TO MAKE THIS DECISION AND YOU HAD TO DO IT IN A HURRY REGARDLESS OF YOUR EMPTY SEAT THAT WAS OVER THERE.

I KNOW NOBODY KNEW THAT SHE WAS GOING TO STEP DOWN.

POINT IS THAT HOW LONG DID YOU KNOW WHEN THE END OF THAT CONTRACT WAS COMING TO? DID YOU JUST FIND IT OUT THREE WEEKS BEFORE? I THINK NOT. YOU HAVE ONE COMPANY THAT WAS NOT EVEN A SOLID.

THE CAPTAIN WAS UP HERE, THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN DISPUTED, $185,000 SPENT ANOTHER $185,000 AND GET ANOTHER OPINION.

BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU SPENT THAT MONEY, YOU'RE SAYING $68 MILLION, STOCK OF $68 MILLION IN OUR WILDEST DREAMS, THAT'LL BE $68 MILLION MAYBE FOR ONE BUILDING.

YOU TRY AND GET A FIRE TRUCK NOW, IT'S LIKE THREE-YEAR WAIT.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, GET USED EQUIPMENT THAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAS THROWN AWAY? LIKE I SAID, THE COMPANY IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT DID THE RESEARCH, YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAY VERBATIM AND PUT THAT PRICE AND YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IT ON THE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

IF YOU THINK THAT START-UP COST IS WHAT IT IS, THEN YOU'RE ALL CRAZY.

I WOULD LIKE A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ADDING THAT ANYTIME ANY CHANGES ARE MADE TO EMERGENCY SERVICES, IT SHOULD BE PUTTING THE RESIDENCE FOR A VOTE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> THAT WAS THE LAST ONE.

>> THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL,

[4. September 5, 2023 Town Council Meeting Minutes]

WE HAVE BEFORE US THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 5TH MEETING AND THERE ARE SOME REVISIONS ON THE DAIS.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS? OTHERWISE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE IS AMENDED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THIS IS ITEMS 5 THROUGH 11 ON PAGE 2.

IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?

>> NO MAYOR.

>> I'M TURNING TO TOWN MANAGER.

>> NUMBER 5, MAYOR.

>> NUMBER 5.

>> NUMBER 11.

>> LOSS IS GOING TO PULL 11.

>> [BACKGROUND].

>> ELEVEN, OKAY.

I LOOK FOR A MOTION, WELL, I GUESS WE HAVE AN AMENDED CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ITEMS 6 THROUGH 10.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

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>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON BACK TO FIRST ITEM IN OUR REGULAR AGENDA IS ORDINANCE 523,

[5. Ordinance 5-23, Second Reading, Jupiter Medical Center Zoning District Front Setback Reduction - Zoning text amendment to the Medical Center (MC) Zoning District, Section 27-964, entitled “Area and dimension regulations”, to reduce the front setback through a waiver process.]

SECOND READING POLL BY THE VICE MAYOR.

>> MAYOR, MY WIFE IS EMPLOYED AT JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN.

>> DOES ANYBODY ON COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE 523? SEEING NONE, CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ORDINANCE 523.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, TOWN ATTORNEY REID, ORDINANCE 523 AND THEN A SHORT TITLE.

>> ORDINANCE 523, AN ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA AMENDING.

CHAPTER 27, THE TOWN'S CODE OF ORDINANCES PERTAINING THE MEDICAL CENTER DISTRICT SETBACKS.

PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT TO DIVISION 15 OF ARTICLE 6, AUTHORIZING A WAIVER TO THE FRONT SETBACK FOR BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES WITHIN THE MEDICAL CENTER DISTRICT WHERE CERTAIN CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET.

PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, PROVIDING FOR THE APPEAL OF LOSS AND CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR CLARIFICATION, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE MOTION CARRIES 3-0 WITH VICE MAYOR DELANEY ABSTAINING.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11,

[11. Approving the First Amendment to the Employment Agreement for the Town Manager.]

PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SAMSTRUM AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER, MAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO QUESTIONS. JUST COMMENTS.

>> NO QUESTIONS. THE SAME COMMENTS, I WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE CHANGES.

>> WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AS A COUNCIL EARLIER AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST IS THAT THIS CONTRACT PERFORMANCE REVIEW PERIOD WAS JUNE 1ST, 2022 THROUGH JUNE 1ST, 2023.

THAT WOULD BE THE END OF THE PERFORMANCE PERIOD.

I DID WRITE OUT A PERFORMANCE REVIEW, I HAD SPOKEN WITH THE TOWN MANAGER BEFORE, BUT THEN I PROVIDED THE WRITTEN DOCUMENT FOR PUBLIC RECORD.

WE HAD UNANIMOUSLY AGREED OR SIGNALED THAT A RAISE OF 5% WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT WAS BEING GIVEN TO STAFF AS WELL.

I WANT TO SAY IN MY RESEARCH ON BOTH THE RAISE AND THE POTENTIAL BONUS, AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW THIS, BUT OUR LOCAL INFLATION IS MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR NATIONAL INFLATION OR EVEN REGIONAL INFLATION AT 78, 79%.

OUR TOWN MANAGER DID NOT RECEIVE THE SUBSIDY LAST YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, BUT WE GAVE THE INFLATION SUBSIDY ON TO OUR STAFF, WE DID NOT TO OUR TOWN MANAGER.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP IN JUNE AT THE END OF THE PERFORMANCE PERIOD AND GIVEN THE REVIEW, IT WAS DUE JUNE 1ST, 2023.

I HOPE NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO CERTAINLY TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING IT ON TIME.

I WOULD RECOMMEND DIRECTION TO STAFF TO POTENTIALLY WORK WITH HR, TO JUST BRING IT BEFORE COUNCIL IN A TIMELY WAY SO THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT SO LATE FROM THE TIME THAT THE PERFORMANCE PERIOD ENDS.

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THE 5%, ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR LOCAL INFLATION RATE, I THINK IN SOME WAYS OUR TOWN MANAGER HAS TAKEN A PAY CUT BECAUSE OF THAT.

I THINK HE WAS, JUST TO BE FAIR WITH WHAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO STAFF, LOOKING AT THAT SUBSIDY, AND GIVEN ALL THAT HE'S ACCOMPLISHED IN THAT PERFORMANCE REVIEW PERIOD.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT HARBOR SIDE, THE FACT THAT WE SETTLED HARBOR SIDE, THE FACT THAT ROGER DEAN NEGOTIATIONS WENT THE WAY THEY DID, PBA, THERE ARE A HOST OF ITEMS IN THAT REVIEW PERIOD THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.

I THINK THAT WARRANTS THE SUBSIDY AT THE VERY MINIMUM, BUT I WOULD DOUBLE IT AND RECOMMEND A BONUS OF 5,600.

IN REGARDS TO SECTION 4C AND 4D, I WANTED TO CHANGE THE WORDING A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S TOO OPEN-ENDED FOR ME.

AS FAR AS SECTION 4C GOES, THE CHANGE I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS, INSTEAD OF THE SALARY INCREASE FOR THE MANAGER, INSTEAD OF STRIKING OUT OR STRIKEOUT OF UP TO 2.5%, I THINK IT NEEDS TO SAY NOT TO EXCEED THE ANNUAL RAISES GIVEN TO TEN EMPLOYEES BASED ON HIS PERFORMANCE REVIEW.

THEN SECTION 4D, AS FAR AS THEIR PERFORMANCE BONUS GOES YOU HEAR A LOT FROM THE TOWN MANAGER THAT SAYS HIS JOB WOULDN'T BE CAPABLE ARE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT TOWN STAFF.

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I'D LIKE TO BASE HIS PERFORMANCE BONUS ON BONUSES GIVEN TO STAFF ON ANY GIVEN YEAR.

I KNOW WE AWARDED A INFLATIONARY SUBSIDY LAST YEAR, BUT I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE AWARDING BONUSES TO ONE PERSON, WE SHOULD BE AWARDING BONUSES TO EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE TOWN.

I FEEL LIKE ANY PERFORMANCE BONUS THAT HE RECEIVES SHOULD NOT EXCEED A PERFORMANCE BONUS GIVEN TO THE MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF.

>> ANY COMMENT ABOUT THAT?

>> I DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A EXECUTIVE POSITION.

HE'S A CEO OF THE TOWN.

IT'S A LARGE BUDGET, IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY.

MY FIRST MEETING WITH MANAGER KETTRO, HE HAD TWO WHITEBOARDS UP WITH HUNDREDS OF AGENDA ITEMS ON IT.

HE ACCOMPLISH MOST OF THEM.

I DISAGREE WITH COUNSELOR SAMSTRON ABOUT NOT DISAGREE, BUT WE SPOKE ABOUT A $10,000 BONUS.

I BASED STRICTLY ON PERFORMANCE BECAUSE HE OVER EXCEEDED WHEREVER I THOUGHT ANY TOWN MANAGED COULD DO WITH ALL THE THINGS WE HAD ON OUR PLATE OR IN HIS PLATE.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO CAP THE 5% PRICE.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT UP TO FUTURE COUNCILS AND FUTURE TOWN MANAGERS AT THEIR DISCRETION.

TO MAINTAIN PROPER, COMPETENT, QUALIFIED MANAGERS, IT'S COMPETITIVE SO YOU DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOURSELF HAMSTRUNG WITH LIMITED SALARY AND BENEFITS.

IT'S A DIFFERENT ECHELON OF PERFORMANCE PAYMENT IN MY OPINION.

>> LITTLE BIT SEPARATE THE ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS BEFORE US IS A MINIMUM TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT.

ITEM C, IT SAYS THAT A TOWN MAY AUTHORIZE A SALARY INCREASE.

YOU JUST REMOVE THE TWO-AND-A-HALF PERCENT CAP.

AGAIN, MAKE THE JUDGMENT OF THE COUNCIL MAJORITY ANNUALLY WHETHER TO GIVE A INCREASE OR NOT OR IN WHAT ONE AMOUNT.

THEN D SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY ELECT TO AWARD A PERFORMANCE BONUS.

IF ANY BONUSES AWARDED, IT SHALL NOT BE ADDED TO THE BASE SALARY.

THAT REALLY JUST ESTABLISHES THE STRUCTURE UNDER WHICH WE USE THE COUNCIL AFTER DOING A PERFORMANCE ROOT VIEW, DECIDE ON WHAT TYPE OF PERFORMANCE REWARD THAT WOULD BE GRANTED.

I LIKEWISE DON'T AGREE WITH CHANGES TO WHAT'S BEFORE US.

>> FOR SECTION 14, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT WE GO TO HUMAN RESOURCES OR SOMEONE TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE'VE GOT THIS IN.

BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE THAT DONE IN JUNE.

AT THAT AND I DO UNDERSTAND JUST THE VARIABILITY WITH INFLATION BEING WAY ABOVE 2.5%.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I DO AGREE THAT AN EXECUTIVE POSITION IS DIFFERENT.

>> CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON PROVING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT?

>> SECOND.

>> EVERY MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> OPPOSED?

>> NO.

>> THE MOTION CARRIES THREE-TO-ONE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MAY DISSENTING.

MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA,

[12. Ordinance 7-23, First Reading, Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR) based Comprehensive Plan Text Amendments – To modify eight comprehensive plan elements related to incorporating statutorily required changes and additional revisions to reflect changes in local conditions and the Town’s strategic priorities.]

ORDINANCE 723, FIRST READING.

TURN IT OVER TO STAFF.

>> YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? MY NAME IS MARTIN SCHNEIDER.

I'M WITH THE TOWN'S PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, AND I'VE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION, THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT BASED AMENDMENTS.

EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN FLORIDA IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT OR YEAR IS REQUIRED EVERY SEVEN YEARS AND THE COMP PLAN MUST BE UPDATED TO REFLECT STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THAT TIME.

THOSE ARE MANDATORY AMENDMENTS.

THEN THE IR BASED AMENDMENTS ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN TO UPDATE POLICIES THAT ARE OUTDATED OR BASED ON CHANGING COMMUNITY CONDITIONS OR CHANGING PRIORITIES AND THESE AMENDMENTS ARE NOT MANDATED BY THE STATE.

I WILL NOT GO THROUGH ALL THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT WERE IN THE STAFF REPORT IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT WE'LL HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC POLICIES.

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IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF POLICIES THAT BASICALLY INCREASE THE PROTECTION OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATION LANDS.

WE ADDED A REQUIREMENT FOR A SUPER-MAJORITY VOTE TO CHANGE A CONSERVATION OR RECREATION LAND USE TO ANOTHER USE.

USUALLY THOSE USES ARE MORE INTENSE THAN CONSERVATION OR RECREATION.

WE ALSO ADDED WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY CONSERVATION AND RECREATION AREAS OF 10 ACRES OR MORE THAT WERE REQUIRED BY DEVELOPMENT ORDERED FOR VENTRAL.

THESE WOULD BE FOR EVENTUAL CONVERSION TO CONSERVATION OR RECREATIONAL LAND USES DESIGNATED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS NOT ALL LANDS USE FOR CONSERVATION, PRESERVATION AND RECREATION PURPOSES HAVE AN UNDERLYING CONSERVATION OR RECREATION LAND USE.

THIS POLICY WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO RESEARCH THESE AREAS AND WE'RE PRACTICAL TO MEN THE LAND USE TO THE CORRESPONDING DESIGNATION.

THIS WOULD THEREBY ADD AN EXTRA LAYER OF PROTECTION ON THESE LANDS.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COMBINE IT WITH THE SUPER MAJORITY TO CHANGE IT TO ANOTHER USE, THAT'S EVEN MORE PROTECTION.

IN THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT, WE ADDED A POLICY TO SUPPORT STATE AND NATIONAL TRAIL SYSTEMS, SPECIFICALLY THE EAST COAST GREEN-WAY AND SUN TRAIL, TO PROMOTE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY.

BY MEETING THE STANDARDS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, THE TOWN WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANT MONEY FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY WOULD ALSO MEET THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY STRATEGIC PRIORITY.

IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT POLICY 1.2.8 IS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED TO UPDATE THE NON-RESIDENTIAL LINKAGE FEE OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM.

THE CURRENT POLICY PREDATES THE ADOPTION OF THE TOWN'S WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM AND THE LEAKAGE FEE THAT IS IN THE LDR.

THIS WOULD JUST BE TO UPDATE THAT SO ITS CURRENT.

ANOTHER ITEM RELATED TO LINKAGE FEES AS PART OF THE YEAR EVALUATION IS BRINGING THE AMOUNT OF THE LINKAGE FEE TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.

THE CURRENT FEE OF ONE DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT AFTER AN EXEMPTION OF THE FIRST 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT, THAT VALUE HAS LOST CONSIDER REAL VALUE SINCE 2015, WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED DUE TO INFLATION AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO BUILD HOUSING.

THE PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE THIS TO TWO DOLLARS PER SQUARE FEET AFTER THE EXEMPTION OF FIRST 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

BUT IT'S UP TO TOWN COUNCIL DECIDE WHETHER TO CHANGE THE FEE, LEAVE IT AS IT IS, OR TO REQUEST STAFF TO DO FURTHER ANALYSIS.

THERE IS ANALYSIS ON THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT.

IN THE CONSERVATION OF COASTAL ELEMENTS, THERE ARE SEVERAL INTERCONNECTED AMENDMENTS RELATED TO INCREASING PROTECTION OF SEA-GRASSES, MARINE HABITAT AND THE SHORELINE, INCLUDING FLOOD PROTECTION, LIVING SHORELINES, SUBMERGED LANDS, AND SURFACE WATERS.

THERE WAS AN EMPHASIS ON MORE NATURE-BASED APPROACHES TO SHORELINE PROTECTION RATHER THAN MAN-MADE HARDENING SOLUTIONS SUCH AS SEAWALLS AND BULKHEADS.

WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME POLICIES ARE BEING AMENDED TO REFLECT THE PREPARATION OF A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

THOSE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES.

THEN THROUGHOUT ALL THE ELEMENTS, WE'VE PROVIDED UPDATES AND HOUSEKEEPING EDITS.

WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. TURN TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> NO QUESTIONS.

>> COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM.

>> I'M GOING TO WITHHOLD FOR NOW.

>> NO QUESTIONS TO THE COMMENT.

THIS IS MORE THAN HOUSEKEEPING IS JUST A GOOD MODERNIZATION AND GOOD UPGRADES TO THE COMPLAINT, ESPECIALLY REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS OF THE LIVING SHORELINES AND EVERYTHING WE DO IN THAT ASPECT. SO THANKS.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND QUESTION. NUMBER 1.

THIS IS, I THINK THE MOST SIGNIFICANT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES THAT WE'VE DONE IN QUITE SOME TIME, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE AND IS ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC GOALS ESTABLISHED BY THE CURRENT TOWN COUNCIL.

THERE'S ONE ITEM I THINK, AND I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF FOR GUIDANCE, BUT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD DO A CHANGE OR COME BACK TO IT.

IT'S GOT TO DO WITH THE TRANSIT STATION.

SO WHAT OCCURS TO ME,

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NUMBER 1 IS THAT IT REFERS TO A 2035 INTERMODAL MAP, WHICH IS FIGURE 9.

THEN YOU GO TO FIGURE 9.

IT DOES SHOW, AS HAD BEEN THE CASE, THAT THERE WAS TWO POTENTIAL PRIMARY SITES.

I THINK WHEN I READ ON THE MAP, IT SEEMS IN THE LEGEND.

NUMBER 1, IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME IN READING IT BECAUSE IT SHOWED A ONE BY THE TONE OPINION, LOCATION, WHICH WAS THE PREFERENCE OF COUNCILS IN THE PAST IN LOGICAL DUE TO THE LOCATION OF THE HOSPITAL.

[NOISE] IT SAYS PREFERRED LOCATION.

IF ONLY ONE PRIMARY STATION IS FUNDED, IT IMPLIES MORE THAN ONE COULD BE FUNDED.

THERE'S NO CHANCE OF THAT.

THE REALITY IS THERE'LL BE ONE IF EVEN THAT, AND JUST TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL AND STAFF.

FIRST OF ALL, FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT, WHAT IS HELD UP A TRY RAIL STATION FOR AT LEAST A DECADE NOW IS THE RULES HAVE CHANGED AND ADD A STATION.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME LOCAL FUNDING OPERATE THAT STATION.

THAT'S UNFAIR TO JUPITER BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER TRY RAIL STATIONS DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE A LOCAL FUNDING MECHANISM.

THAT'S NUMBER 1.

WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE ADVOCATED ON OUR BEHALF, THAT'S NOT FAIR.

THE FUNDING MECHANISM WILL WANT TO COME IS VIEWED BY THE TPA, WOULD RELATE TO IF IN FACT A REFERENDUM WERE TO BE PASSED FOR TRANSIT ORIENTED FUNDING.

THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN ACTUALLY BROUGHT FORTH.

BUT THAT WOULD BE THE PRECURSOR.

THERE HAS TO BE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT.

NUMBER 2, THE REALITIES OF BUDGETING BECAUSE THIS AGAIN, SITTING ON THE TPA FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER, THERE'S A FIVE-YEAR PLAN OF CAPITAL FUNDING.

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ON THE PLAN UNFUNDED EVERY YEAR FOR A DECADE.

EVEN WHEN FUNDING EVER BECOMES AVAILABLE IT'S IN THE OUT YEAR.

WHICH MEANS THAT THE EARLIEST THIS IS LIKELY TO EVER HAPPEN IS 2035.

SECONDLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COME TO GRIPS WITH THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THEN WHAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS IS.

SEEING THAT IN MY VIEW, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN.

BUT SEEING THAT IN MY VIEW, WE HAD NEVER APPROACHED THE JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER OF THEIR INTERESTS IN A TRANSIT STATION.

I SCHEDULED A MEETING THAT I ATTENDED WITH THEIR ACCOUNT MANAGER WITH THE LEADERSHIP AT THE MEDICAL CENTER, AND WE WERE ADVISED BASICALLY THAT THEY WERE NEUTRAL.

THEY HADN'T MADE ANY DECISION ABOUT THAT.

WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE SOME THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TO THE DEGREE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING.

FIRST OF ALL, THEY BOUGHT A BUNCH OF PROPERTY ALONG ROADWAY THAT WOULD BE NEEDED IF THERE WAS TO BE SOME PUBLIC PARKING THEY'RE BUILDING A PARKING STRUCTURE NOW.

THEY'RE HESITANT. CANDIDLY WAS THE FACT THAT IF THIS IS THE NORTHERN MOST STATION, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FROM, LET'S SAY MARTIN COUNTY, MIGHT DRIVE IN OR WHATEVER.

BOTTOM LINE, I'M JUST SHARING SOME INFORMATION HERE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE REALLY HAVE TO, FIRST AND FOREMOST SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN A COMMITMENT FROM THE MEDICAL CENTER.

WE'VE ASKED THAT TO BEGIN SOME DIALOGUE BECAUSE WE MENTIONED THAT.

I'M NOT SAYING THEY WERE DISINTERESTED, BUT THEY HAD LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

I'LL ALSO STATE AN OPINION THAT I'VE GIVEN FOR YEARS ON TPA.

IF YOU'RE A DEAD END OF RAILROAD LINE, YOU DON'T GET AS MUCH BENEFIT AS IF IT WAS TO CONTINUE NORTH.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HOW MANY WHAT POPULATION COMES FROM MARTIN AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY INTO JUPITER AND SOUTH WOULD IDEALLY SHOULD BE EXTENDED.

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I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE WORDING IMPLIES LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO BE PLANNING TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOT THE PRIMARY USER OF THAT TO AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE DONE.

THEN THEY OWN A WHOLE BUNCH OF THE PROPERTY ALONG TOWN OF PINNA.

THAT WASN'T THE CASE WHEN WE HAD PUT THIS IN THE COMP PLAN.

I KNOW I'VE SAID A LOT, AND I KNOW THIS COMES BACK TO US AGAIN, BUT I DO THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS IT.

I DO THINK WE'VE MANAGER AND I BEGAN TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT BY SEEING IF THE HOSPITAL.

BECAUSE TYPICALLY HOSPITAL DOESN'T MAKE A GOOD LOCATION FOR THEIR WORKFORCE, AND WE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

THE STAFF HAVE ANY SUGGESTED CHANGES FOR NOW OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE COULD OR SHOULD COME BACK TO.

I'M JUST UNCOMFORTABLE LEAVING IT IN THERE IMPLYING LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO BE PLANNING THIS WHEN THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT HAPPENING SEEMS TO BE LESS THAN AND LESS THAN LIKELY FROM WHAT IT WAS WHEN THIS COMP PLAN LANGUAGE WAS PUT IN.

>> WHAT THE CHANGE DID IT WAS REMOVED A DATE OF 2023 THAT WE HAD TO DEVELOP CRITERIA FOR THE PROPERTIES IN THIS TO SUPPORT TRANSIT USE.

IT MAKES IT MORE GENERAL THAT THE TOWN SHALL REQUIRE DEVELOPMENTS LOCATED WITHIN A HALF-MILE OF A PRIMARY TRANSIT STATION TO SUPPORT TRANSIT USE.

IT MAKES IT MORE GENERAL.

AN OPTION COULD BE TO ELIMINATE THE OBJECTIVE COMPLETELY OR TO REQUIRE A STUDY OF THAT AREA.

IN OUR ANALYSIS IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE DO TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO COORDINATE WITH THE JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR MASTER PLAN.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE ELIMINATED THE DATE.

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>> NO YOU ELIMINATED DATE, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT IT STILL SAYS WITHOUT THE DATE, THE TOWN SHALL REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED WITHIN A HALF-MILE OF A PRIMARY STATION IS IMPLIED IS THAT TOWN OF PINNA BECAUSE IT REFERENCES TO MAP WILL SUPPORT TRANSIT USE.

AGAIN, TO THE DEGREE THAT THE MEDICAL CENTER HAS PURCHASED MUCH OF THAT PROPERTY.

IF THIS IS GOING TO GO ANYWHERE, IT'S REALLY SUBJECT TO THEIR BUY-IN TO THIS.

I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MY COLLEAGUES FEEL ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M UNCOMFORTABLE.

I WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY TO INTERPRET NOW A PROJECT COMING IN AND WE SEEM WE REQUIRE YOU TO DO TRANSIT ORIENTED WHEN THE HOSPITALS AND YET COMMITTED TO IT.

IF YOU SUGGEST ONE OPTION IS TO REMOVE IT.

WE COULD COME BACK, AND ADD IT UP OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH REQUIRING THAT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHN STICKLER FOR THE RECORD.

THE MEANING OF BEING TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE IS THINGS LIKE HAVING A WALKABLE STREET, AN ENVIRONMENT WITH BLOCKS THAT ARE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN DOING ANYTHING EXTREME AND THE CONTEXT, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S A JUDGMENT CALL THAT CAN BE MADE ANYTIME AN APPLICATION WITHIN THAT HALF-MILE DISTANCE COMES BEFORE THE COUNCIL, BUT REALLY IT'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD COME AND GO, HAVE ACTIVITIES AND SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSIT.

IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARILY, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOMETHING SO PROFOUND TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE PARKING ON THEIR SITE FOR TRANSIT.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S REALLY JUST TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO WALKABILITY, WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON IN THE TOWN OVERALL.

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE QUESTION WAS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT JUST, SORRY AS I GO THROUGH ALL THIS, HOW DO YOU DEFINE TRANSIT SUPPORTED USES? YOU'RE SAYING IT'S BROAD AND INCLUDES PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

>> I THINK A LOT OF TIMES IT'S ALSO THE CONTEXT OF YOU'LL HEAR THINGS LIKE 18 HOURS OF ACTIVITY SO THAT THINGS LIKE THESE, NOT JUST OFFICE USES THAT SHUT DOWN AT 05:00 PM YOU MIGHT HAVE EVENING USES.

IT'S JUST A CONTINUOUS TYPE OF ACTIVITY THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN A TOWN CENTER TYPE AREA.

IT'D BE ACCOMMODATION OF OFFICE AND RETAIL USES, RESIDENTIAL.

>> I THINK THE THING THAT I STRUGGLE WITH THOSE, IF YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A TRANSIT STATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARKING.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE NO PARKING, WHICH IS WHY WITH THE MEDICAL CENTER

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PROCEEDING WITH A PARKING GARAGE, WE THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEN THE TRANSIT STATION IN THEORY WOULD SAVE THEM PARKING SPACES BECAUSE SOME OF THEIR WORKFORCE FROM THE SOUTH WOULD COME IN BUY TRY RAIL, AND THEN THAT WOULD RELIEVE THE NEED FOR SPACE, AND THAT'D BE A BENEFIT TO THEM AND THEY AGREED TO THAT.

WE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET A FEELING ON THEIR WILLINGNESS TO EVEN ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, AND/OR WHAT ABOUT THE PROPERTY THEY HAVE? I JUST DO BELIEVE AS A GOVERNMENT, WE REALLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, WHERE LEGITIMATELY COULD PARKING BE? WE CAN'T ALLOW DEVELOPMENT TO CONTINUE IF WE HAVE THIS IN HERE WITHOUT SOLVING THE PARKING?

>> AS YOU MAY RECALL, WHEN WE PUT THESE POLICIES IN PLACE ORIGINALLY, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2008, IT WAS TO POSITION OURSELVES FOR THE POTENTIAL OF FUNDING AND GETTING A STATION IN THE TOWN TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.

THE ABSENCE OF THESE TYPES OF POLICIES COULD HAVE IMPLICATIONS ON POTENTIAL FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.

DEPENDING ON THE COUNCIL'S PREFERENCE, WE COULD COME BACK AND BRING YOU SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THIS BASED ON THE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION YOU PROVIDE US.

WE COULD LEAVE IT AS IS AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS OR INTERPRETATIONS AS TO THE LEVEL OF THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE USES AT TIME DEVELOPMENT COMES BEFORE YOU.

THERE'S A LOT OF LATITUDE BECAUSE THERE'S NO SPECIFICS IN THE POLICY AS TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

I JUST THINK YOU SHOULD ALSO BE AWARE OF THE IMPLICATIONS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT FUNDING IF THAT ASSET OR THAT TYPE OF USE IS DESIRED HERE IN THE FUTURE.

>> UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE AGAIN, PURSUING THAT, BUT THE MEDICAL CENTER WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT.

>> UNDERSTAND THAT. WHY LOSE YOUR PLACE IN QUEUE FOR THE FUNDING? WE DO WANT TO HAVE THEM PULL IT AND REWRITE THE LANGUAGE.

>> WELL, I KNOW WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF CHANGES CORRECT AS WE HAVE BEEN.

I WANT IT TO BE ADDRESSED WHETHER WE [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK IT CERTAINLY AN ISSUE THAT IS GOING TO COME FORWARD AGAIN OR NEED FURTHER CONSIDERATION.

THIS IS JUST PROVIDING SOME GENERAL POLICY IN THERE THAT WE CONSIDER THOSE TYPE OF TRANSPORT USES WHEN DEVELOPMENT AND PROXIMITY OCCURS ON THOSE LOCATIONS ON THAT MAP.

>> YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A BLUE DOT DESIGNATION FOR APA CODE DOWN AT WK7, WHICH IS THAT COMPANY STORAGE AND THEN RECENTLY IT CAME UP.

GMC IS THE MOST LIKELY SPOT OR THE MOST FEASIBLE SPOT FOR IT.

I THINK IT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY WE WOULD HAVE IT OR TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE WITH THE PARKING.

I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR, SO EXCEPT I'M INTERESTED WITH MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY ABOUT PULLING IT AND REWRITING IT OR JUST GOING THROUGH THE SAME WITH IT.

>> I AGREE IT'S A LONG SHOT.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE DENSITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT PALM BEACH GARDENS IS BUILDING FOR WHAT THEY WANT IN A STATION, THAT VISION IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS.

I DO THINK THE LANGUAGE IS VAGUE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT POTENTIALLY, BUT I LIKE THAT WE'RE FLAGGING IT AND JUST DISCUSSING IT.

>> IT'S BEEN HOVERING OUT THERE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE.

>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO KEEP HOVERING BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE A DENSITY TO SUPPORT THAT.

>> THAT'S WHY THE ONLY WAY WE'LL ADVANCE IF EVEN THEN IS IF THE MEDICAL CENTER IS INTERESTED IN IT.

THAT WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH THEM ABOUT THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT STAFF AND THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT THE POPULATION OF WORKERS THEY HAVE FROM THE SOUTH VERSUS FROM THE NORTH, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT YOU CAN'T SPECIFY.

THE GARDENS, HAS THE PROPERTY FOR PARKING.

WE ALMOST HAVE TO LINE UP PARKING FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN SAY YOU CAN HAVE A STATION THERE. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

I GUESS WE COULD HAVE IT WHEN IT COMES BACK AND DEEP, BUT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS LANGUAGE THAT TIES IN THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING TO SEE IF THE MAJOR EMPLOYER HAS INTEREST, AND THIS WOULD BE PREDICATED ON THEIR INTERESTS.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE. THEY'RE THE PROPERTY OWNER OF PROPERTY WHERE PARKING COULD OCCUR.

>> I'LL JUST GIVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THEN.

I DO WANT TO JUST POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR RESIDENTS IN THIS.

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I LIKE HOW STAFF SAID IT.

WHAT THESE AMENDMENTS DO IS THEY FURTHER PROTECT EXISTING NATURAL AND RECREATION AREAS, WHICH IS REALLY A WONDERFUL THING TO SEE AND THAT THIS COUNCIL PUT ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND SO IT'S GLAD THAT'S COMING FOR US.

IT'S AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PROTECTION FOR THAT.

IT'S WONDERFUL, AND I'M ALSO GLAD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON OUR SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

I KNOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL TASK FORCE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THAT AS WELL AS THE VULNERABILITY STUDY, WHICH IS A REALLY IMPORTANT KEY STEP TO SECURING FUNDING FOR RESILIENCE ESPECIALLY ALONG OUR COASTAL AREAS AND ANYTHING ELSE.

I GUESS I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE'S A MARINE STUDY AS WELL THAT WAS REFERENCED HERE THAT WOULD BE FOLDED INTO THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN IS JUST WHAT I WOULD IMAGINE TO KEEP IT ALL IN ONE PLACE.

ARE THEY TWO SEPARATE PLANS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES? IT'S CALLING FOR A MARINE.

LET ME SEE. MARINE STEWARDSHIP PLAN.

WOULD THAT BE FOLDED INTO THE SUSTAINABLITY PLAN?

>> NO. THAT'S MORE SAYING THAT WHEN SOMEONE GOES TO DEVELOP OR REDEVELOP A PROPERTY ALONG THE WATER, THEY WOULD PROVIDE A MARINE STEWARDSHIP PLAN TO SAY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PROTECT OR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ENHANCE THE WATERFRONT.

>> EXCELLENT.

>> SIDE OF TOWN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> YES, ONE. BRETT LEONI.

>> MAYOR COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING.

FOR THE RECORD, BRETT LEONI 132 BARBADOS DRIVE.

FROM SOME OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT I THINK THAT SEAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED BY SOMEONE WITH A PLANNING BACKGROUND AND UNDERSTANDING ON EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE IN THIS TOWN.

AS SOMEONE WHO SAT ON THE TPA FOR A LONG TIME, I REALLY THOUGHT THAT MOBILITY AND TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, SOMETHING THAT THE TPA HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR A LONG TIME, ESPECIALLY UP IN THE NORTHERN END OF THE ACCOUNTING BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SO HEAVILY FOCUSED DOWN IN WEST PALM AND EVEN DOWN IN BOCA.

I THINK THE TOWNSHIP FULLY EMBRACE THAT.

I DON T THINK IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO SAY WHETHER A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAS A BLUE DOT ON IT.

I WORKED FOR [NOISE] A LOCAL CONSULTING FIRM WHO REPRESENTED THAT WK7 PROPERTY THAT THE VICE MAYOR BROUGHT UP.

IT HAD A BLUE DOT, AND WE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO DESIGN THAT PROPERTY FOR FUTURE TRAIN STATION.

WE DIDN'T SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO.

IT WAS ON THE MAP AND WE HAD TO.

IF THE JNC SITE IS ONE, WHICH I AGREE THAT THAT'S A GREAT PROPERTY TO DO IT, AND IF JNC IS IN SUPPORT, I THINK THE TOWN SHOULD GET BEHIND THAT AND SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE IT'S ONLY GOING TO FURTHER ENHANCE THE TOWN AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITIES, KEEPING TRIPS OFF THE ROAD.

SOMETHING I KNOW YOU MAYOR HAVE A GREAT CONCERN ABOUT IS THE NUMBER OF TRIPS ON THE ROAD.

I THINK PROMOTING TOD ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN IT SHOULD BE AROUND JNC.

IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST EMPLOYERS AS YOU ALL HAD MENTIONED.

ON ANOTHER NOTE WITH THE YEAR, I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER SASTRAM, YOU'VE MENTIONED IT PROTECTING PROPERTY, OPEN SPACE, RECREATION.

ANOTHER ITEM I'LL SPEAK ON LATER TONIGHT IS TOWN HALL AND PROTECTING ALL 2.4 ACRES OF THAT AND NOT JUST HALF OF THAT.

BUT GOING BACK, TOD IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE NORTHERN END OF THE COUNTY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO JUPITER, TO THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF JUPITER TO ENSURING THAT IT DEVELOPS PROPERLY, SAFELY, AND SUSTAINABILITY. THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS THE ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> THAT WAS IT.

>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, WHEN WE APPROACHED THE MEDICAL CENTER, I DON'T BELIEVE IN TAKING PROPERTY.

WE WEREN'T ASKING THEM PER SE TO PROVIDE PARKING.

WE WERE SAYING YOU'VE GOT A GARAGE OR EXTRA SPACES.

YOU HAVE PROPERTY NOW THAT YOU HAVE POTENTIALLY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS FOR, WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER THAT IF THE STATION IS GOING TO HAPPEN, IT CAN HAPPEN.

>> IN YOUR RESPONSE, ANY FEEDBACK?

>> WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE WHICH THEY HAD NEVER ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

WE BASICALLY SAID IN YOUR LONG-TERM PLANNING.

>> NEVER WERE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> DO WE NEED TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON THE LINKAGE FEE? STEPH ASKING FOR GUIDANCE THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT?

>> YES. BASICALLY, IN THE LDR IS NOT IN THE COMP PLAN, BUT IT SAYS IT'S PART OF THE YEAR BASED TO LOOK AT YOUR FEE.

WE'VE SUGGESTED THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCREASE IT FROM ONE DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT LESS THE FIRST 10,000 SQUARE

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FEET TO TWO DOLLARS JUST TO MAKE UP EVEN THE DIFFERENCES BASED ON INFLATION AND COSTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN HAVE US DIRECT US TO DO THAT NOW AND WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE NOW OR YOU CAN WAIT TILL LATER WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT.

WE HAVE A HOUSING ROUNDTABLE THAT HASN'T BEEN SCHEDULED BUT IS OUT THERE IN THE FUTURE IF YOU WANTED TO JUST FOLD IT INTO THAT.

BUT IF WE GET THE MONEY EARLIER, IF WE HAVE A BIG DEVELOPMENT COME IN, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COLLECT THAT MONEY.

LIKE I SAID, THE ONE DOLLAR WAS IN 2015 AND TIMES HAVE CHANGED [NOISE]

>> I'D SUPPORT THE TWO DOLLARS.

>> I AGREE.

>> I AGREE.

>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD THAT DIRECTION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CAN I HAVE A MOTION ON ORDINANCE 723?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION A SECOND AND I ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ AN ORDINANCE 723 ON SHORT TITLE.

>> ORDINANCE 723, AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF JUPITER FLORIDA AMENDING ORDINANCE 5789 TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE TOWN OF JUPITER PROVIDING FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE TEXTS OF VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RESULTING FROM THE DIRECTORS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE EVALUATION APPRAISAL REPORT, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF LAWS IN CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

>> AYE [OVERLAPPING]

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM 13,

[13.A. Ordinance 10-23, First Reading, changing the Future Land Use designation on 7.9+/- acres located in the Town from: “Medium Density Residential” to “Conservation” on7.6+/- acres (500 N Delaware Boulevard) “Not designated” to “Conservation” on 0.3+/- acres (Indiantown Road/FL Turnpike intersection) (Second Reading 12/19/23)]

A AND B. TURNOVER TO STEPH.

>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. FOR THE RECORD, MARTIN SCHNEIDER WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

THE SECOND PART OF THE YEAR BASED AMENDMENTS FROM THE EVALUATION APPRAISAL REPORT WAS TO CHANGE A COUPLE OF THE TOWN OWN PROPERTIES TO CONSERVATION BASICALLY.

THE FIRST IS THE 500 NORTH DELAWARE BOULEVARD PROPERTY WHICH WAS PURCHASED THROUGH OPEN SPACE FUNDS.

IT WAS A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

>> I'M SORRY. I'M REALIZING THAT A SECOND ORDINANCE IS QUASI JUDICIAL.

>> THE SECOND ORDINANCES, YES, FOR THE REZONING.

>> [OVERLAPPING] NO. THE ZONING DESIGNATION IS NOT QUASI JUDICIAL.

>> THAT'S IT. STRIKETHROUGH.

>> I'LL ADDRESS THEM BOTH. BASICALLY, THAT WAS A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND WE'RE CHANGING IT TO CONSERVATION.

INITIALLY, WE HAD SUGGESTED RECREATION TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY, BUT BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND ALSO THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM THE JUPITER INLET DISTRICT, WHO'S A 20% OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, IT WAS DETERMINED CONSERVATION WAS THE BETTER LAND USE DESIGNATION AND CONSERVATION PRESERVATION, THE BETTER ZONING DISTRICT.

THAT IS THE ONE PROPERTY WHICH IS 7.6 ACRES, SECOND PROPERTY, WHICH IS A 0.3 ACRE.

IT'S BASICALLY A SURPLUS PROPERTY THAT THE TOWN RECEIVED FROM FLORIDA DOT.

THAT'LL BE FROM A NON DESIGNATED DESIGNATION TO CONSERVATION ALSO.

THAT IS BASICALLY WHERE THAT GATEWAY FEATURE IS OUT WHERE THE TURNPIKE COMES ONTO INDIANTOWN ROAD.

BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO CONSERVATION, THOSE ARE LESS INTENSIVE FOR MOST PURPOSES THAN THE EXISTING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.

THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH IMPACTS TO SERVICING THEM.

THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO MEET THOSE CHANGES.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? STEPH? SEE NONE.

WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> NO, MAYOR.

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I TURN IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

I JUST FIRST OF ALL SAY, I APPRECIATE THIS BEING PROCESSED.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO THE INLET DISTRICT.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO PARTNER WITH ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN EXTRA STEWARD OVER CONSERVATION PROPERTY.

I APPRECIATE THE ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT OF THE INLET DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE PUTTING APPROPRIATE LAND USE AND ZONING ON IT.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I GO TO COUNCIL FOR COMMENTS OR MOTION.

>> JUST FROM THE PUBLIC, I HEARD THAT THEY DO OWNERSHIPS, MAN, IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR A FUTURE COUNCIL TO SELL THE PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT, SO IT PRETTY MUCH LOCKS IT UP IN PERPETUITY. THAT'S IT.

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>> MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AN ORDINANCE 1023?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 723, AT A FIRST READING.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. I'D ASK TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ ORDINANCE 1023 ON SHORT TITLE.

>> ORDINANCE 1023, AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL.

THE TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 5789, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF TOWN OF JUPITER, PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT OF FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE TOWN OWN PROPERTY OF APPROXIMATELY 7.6 ACRES, LOCATED AT 500 NORTH DELAWARE BOULEVARD, FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO CONSERVATION, PROVIDING FOR THE ASSIGNMENT OF A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF A TOWN OWN PROPERTY OF CONSERVATION TO AN APPROXIMATELY 0.3 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INDIANTOWN ROAD ACROSS FROM THE ENTRANCE TO THE FLORIDA TURNPIKE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF LAWS IN CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ORDINANCE, 1023, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

>> AYE [OVERLAPPING]

>> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

TAKE A MOTION ON ORDINANCE 1123, FIRST READING.

[13.B. Ordinance 11-23, First Reading, -Quasi-judicial - changing the Zoning designation on 7.9+/- acres located in the Town from: “Residential, Single-family” to “Conservation Preservation” on 7.6+/- acres (500 N Delaware Boulevard); “Not zoned” to “Conservation Preservation” on 0.3+/- acres (Indiantown Road/FL Turnpike intersection) (Second Reading 12/19/23)]

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 1123.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND AND I ASK FOR THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ ORDINANCE 1123 ON SHORT TITLE.

>> ORDINANCE 1123, AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA AMENDING THE TOWN'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO BE ZONED, APPROXIMATELY 7.6 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED 500 DELAWARE BOULEVARD FROM R1 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO CONSERVATION PRESERVATION.

PROVIDING FOR THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE CONSERVATION PRESERVATION ZONING DISTRICT TO AN APPROXIMATELY 0.3 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INDIANTOWN ROAD, ACROSS FROM THE ENTRANCE TO THE FLORIDA TURNPIKE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF LAWS IN CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

>> AYE [OVERLAPPING]

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM 14,

[14. Resolution 49-23, 1000 Town Hall Avenue (Old Town Hall) – Quasi-Judicial – Requesting a Town-initiated Local Historic Designation for a property located at 1000 Town Hall Avenue.]

RESOLUTION 423, THE TOWN HALL PROPERTY.

>> MAYOR. THIS ITEM IS QUASI-JUDICIAL.

DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND FORWARD?

>> OH YES. THANK YOU. FIRST, I'D ASK THIS COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY EX PARTY IN DISCLOSURES.

>> YES I HAD SOME PHONE CALLS WITH ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AND I'VE RECEIVED SOME EMAILS.

>> FROM ME.

>> I'VE RECEIVED SOME EMAILS AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH STAFF.

>> JUST SOME EMAILS AND THAT'S IT.

>> YES, PLEASE. PHYLLIS WE'RE IN.

ANYBODY THAT WILL BE GIVEN TESTIMONY.

>> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IN HIS HEARING IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

>> FOR THE RECORD, STEPHEN MAYER.

I AM SENIOR PLANNER, ATTENDED JUPITER IN HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD LIAISON.

THIS ITEM COMING BACK BEFORE YOU IS A LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR 1000 TOWN HALL AVENUE.

WE ARE THE APPLICANT.

THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

PROPERTY IS TOTALING 2.4 ACRES IN SIZE LOCATED THERE IN PENNANT PLACE.

THIS IS THE CLOSE-UP OF THE PROPERTY.

WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS A LINE BIFURCATING THE PROPERTY IN HALF.

ON THE EAST WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE WHERE THERE IS NO KNOWN HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OTHER THAN THE PROXIMITY TO THE EASTERN PORTION OF THIS SITE AT 1.2 ACRES.

THAT IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THIS OLD SCHOOL HOUSE, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1911 AND THE OLD TOWN HALL BUILT IN 1952.

THE LAST TIME I WAS BEFORE YOU, I SPOKE A STORY ABOUT THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE PENNOCK SCHOOL HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1911.

THAT THE OLD TOWN HALL WAS THE FIRST PURPOSE-BUILT TOWN HALL FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER, AND THAT WAS BUILT IN 1952.

IT WAS LATER TO BECOME THE FIRST BRANCH COUNTY LIBRARY IN 1982.

I ALSO MENTIONED THE CRITERIA FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION THAT THAT INCLUDES THAT IT HAS POLITICAL AND CULTURAL HISTORY, COMMUNITY AND CIVIC INVOLVEMENT AND ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

IN ALL THOSE CASES, THERE IS SIGNIFICANCE IN THE SITE AND AS WELL AS THE BUILDING, THE TOWN HALL BUILDING.

WE ALSO MENTIONED STAFF COMMENTS ON THE DESIGNATION OF THE ENTIRE SITE 2.4 ACRES, THAT SOME IMPROVEMENTS WOULD REQUIRE WHAT IS CALLED A

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CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS OR COA IF THE WESTERN PART OF THE SITE WAS EITHER SITE IMPROVEMENTS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SITE WOULD REQUIRE A COA.

STAFF IDENTIFIED FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR TEMPORARY USES THAT MAY REQUIRE A COAS, WHICH INCLUDE ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PLAYGROUND, THE SEMINAL BASIN IN THE STORMWATER PROJECTS ITSELF ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A TEMPORARY LAY DOWN AREA AND I STRESS TEMPORARY IN SUPPORT OF FUTURE UTILITY IN RESTORATION PROJECTS AS NECESSARY.

THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE HRB BOARD ON MAY 15TH, AND THEN ON JULY 17TH, WAS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ENTIRE SITE TO BE DESIGNATED.

ON AUGUST 15TH, WE CAME BEFORE YOU AND YOU VOTED TO CONTINUE THE ITEM AND HALF-STAFF ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF DESIGNATING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

NOW, FOR THE UPDATE TO THOSE COMMENTS, THE WESTERN PORTION AS STAFF NOTES DOES NOT HAVE AN UNKNOWN HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OTHER THAN BEING ADJACENT TO THE EASTERN PORTION.

ON THAT WESTERN PORTION, IT IS ADJACENT TO THE SEMINOLE BASIN, THE ACTUAL WATER BODY.

THERE ARE STORMWATER UTILITY MASTER PLAN'S PROJECTS THAT ARE SLATED FOR THE STORMWATER BASIN AREA.

TWO IN PARTICULAR, THAT WILL IMPROVE WATER QUALITY CAPACITY AS WELL AS WATER QUALITY INTO THE BOX THAT YOU RIVER.

THERE IS ALSO PROPERTY THAT WE OWN TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE ALMOST PLAYS, WHICH MAY HAVE PROJECTS THAT WILL RESTORE THE PROPERTY TO NATURAL HABITAT AND MAY INCLUDE THEN OUR PROPERTY IN THAT RESTORATION PROCESS.

HISTORIC DESIGNATION ON THE WESTERN PORTION WOULD REQUIRE COAS, ADDING STAFF TIME, AND ADDING COMPLETION TIME FOR STORMWATER AND RESILIENCY PROJECTS THAT MAY REQUIRE EMERGENCY ATTENTION OR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.

THE STAFF HAS OFFERED A POTENTIAL TO DESIGNATE THE EASTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY TO ENCOMPASS THE OLD TOWN HALL, AND THE SCHOOLHOUSE LOCATION.

THAT IS OFFERED TO YOU AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY WHICH WAS THE HRB RECOMMENDATION.

BOTH OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE IN THE PACKET BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THAT END STAFF'S PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> YES. FIRST, YOU HAVE DANA ANDERSON.

>> HELLO, DANA ANDERSON, 144, FLORIDA AVENUE.

AS MANY OF THE PEOPLE YOU'LL HEAR AFTER ME, I'M A NATIVE OF THIS AREA.

I GREW UP THERE. THE FIRST THING I WANT TO START WITH IS WHERE WE STARTED TONIGHT. THAT WAS THE PRAYER.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ARE RELIGIOUS, BELIEVE IN GOD? I DO. BUT SHE'S SPOKEN THE PRAYER FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.

HOPE SOME OF YOU HEARD IT.

I KNOW PEOPLE HERE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE OR ABOUT ALL THAT WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME THINGS, YOU SPOKE ABOUT WORKING WITH JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER IN APPROACHING THEM IN DISCUSSION.

I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST AS YOU CHOOSE.

[APPLAUSE] THE IDEA OF HAVING THIS A LAYDOWN AREA WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING.

THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION WASTE SITE, TEMPORARY.

IF A YEAR-AND-A-HALF OR MORE IS GOING TO BE TEMPORARY, LET'S CONSIDER WHAT TEMPORARY IS, BUT WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS PARK.

PICNIC TABLES, PEOPLE USE THEM ALL THE TIME.

USE THEM FROM THE CHURCH.

THIS DOWN THE CORNER, WE USE THIS AREA, GETS USED ALL THE TIME.

PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR SOUTHERN BELL AND SURVEYORS, THEY COME OVER THERE, PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR BUSINESSES FOR LUNCH JUST TO COME OVER AND PARK, WHAT USED TO BE AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE COULD PARK UNDERNEATH TREES IS NOW THIS CONSTRUCTION SITE.

THIS IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THIS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

GOES BEYOND BELIEF.

THE HISTORIC COMMITTEE SAW OUT THERE THAT YOU SAID ABOUT DESIGNATE THE WHOLE THING.

YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE WITH THAT.

PEOPLE HAVE PLAYED IN THAT PARK FROM LITTLE KIDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR 70 YEARS, PROBABLY. PEOPLE USE IT.

BESIDES FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

HE SPOKE ABOUT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

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THERE'S COMMUNITY INVOLVED WITH IT USES THAT AREA.

BUT CALLING A CONSTRUCTION SITE A TEMPORARY LAY DOWN SITE SURE IS A BEAUTIFUL TERM.

SOMEONE DID THEIR JOB COMING UP WITH A GOOD TERM.

COUPLE OF VEHICLES CAME BY THERE THE DAY AFTER THE LAST MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE WILLING TO TELL ME WHO YOU ARE IN YOUR VEHICLES.

I HAVE YOU ON MY RING DOORBELL, BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED TO SEE, BUT PEOPLE CAME BY.

WE WERE TOLD THAT ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, EVERYTHING WOULD BE GONE OVER THERE.

SOMEBODY WAS FAIRLY DISGUSTED WITH IT.

I DON T KNOW WHO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT THAT LATER THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> MICHAEL COLE PEPPER, THEN SUSAN BRANDT.

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MICHAEL CULPEPER, 18937, 129TH TER NORTH JUPITER, FLORIDA.

AT YOUR SEPTEMBER FIFTH MEETING, YOU HEARD ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE OF THE OLD TOWN HALL.

YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AGAIN FROM A NUMBER OF FOLKS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE TOWN MANAGER FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN GETTING THIS INDUSTRIAL DUMPSITE REMOVED FROM A QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE GONE BY THIS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 22ND.

WE HOPE THIS WILL HAPPEN AND THAT THE AREA WILL BE RESTORED WITH GRASPING BACK TO ITS PRISTINE CONDITION.

THE PROPERTY IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL R1 ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

I STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO REITERATE THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT WANT AN INDUSTRIAL OPERATION AT THIS LOCATION EVER AGAIN.

YOU'RE CHAIRPERSON FOR THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD, MS. DEBI MURRAY, WHO IS ALSO THE CHIEF CURATOR FOR THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY OF PALM BEACH COUNTY, WAS QUOTED IN THE PALM BEACH POST IS SAYING, THE BIGGEST THING WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THAT THE SITE BE PROTECTED AND REMAIN AS IT IS TODAY.

AS I READ THROUGH THE BACKUP FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT STAFF HAS NOT BEEN DIRECTED TO NEVER USE THIS SITE FOR INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY.

IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE STAFF UPDATED REFERENCES INPUT FROM THE STORMWATER UTILITY DIVISION WHICH STATES THERE IS A NEED FOR CONTINUED ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND UNENCUMBERED ACCESS TO THE SEMINOLE BASIN ADJACENT TO THE WEST OF THE SITE.

FOLKS, THE SEMINOLE BASIN HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS AND DIRECT ACCESS CONTINUES TO BE PROVIDED FROM BOTH SEMINOLE AVENUE AND FLORIDA AVENUE.

THIS IS EASILY ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT ACCESS FROM THE OLD TOWN HALL SITE.

YOU'VE HEARD ME AND ALL THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD REFER TO THE INDUSTRIAL DUMPSITE THAT'S BEEN ON THE PROPERTY FOREVER A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AND ALL THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

HOWEVER, THE STAFF UPDATE PROVIDED TONIGHT REFERS TO THIS SAME INDUSTRIAL DUMPSITE AS THE EXISTING TEMPORARY LAY DOWN STAGING AREA.

THE STAFF UPDATE IN FRONT OF YOU ALSO GOES ON TO STATE THAT STAFF WANTS TO EXPAND ON THIS INDUSTRIAL DUMPSITE, EXCEPT THEY DON'T CALL IT AN INDUSTRIAL DUMPSITE LIKE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE DO, THEY REFER TO IT AS A TEMPORARY LAY DOWN SITE.

I THINK GEORGE ORWELL CALLED THAT DOUBLESPEAK.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SAW THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE THE AREA IN ITS PRISTINE CONDITION, ALLOWING CONTINUED AND ONGOING USES AN INDUSTRIAL SITE IS CONTRARY TO THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS AND THE PEACE AND QUIET OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORS.

AS THE OWNER OF THE OLD TOWN HALL PROPERTY, ALL WE'RE ASKING FROM YOU IS A LITTLE RESPECT AND TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO MAKING JUPITER A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.

[APPLAUSE]

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

SUSAN PEARL, I LIVE AT 148 FLORIDA AVENUE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PARK.

AS THOSE BEFORE ME WERE SPEAKING ABOUT, THERE ARE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT THAT PARK.

THE WILDLIFE THAT GOES IN THERE, THE BIRDS.

I'VE SEEN AUSPICE ALL THE TIME, AND EVER SINCE WE'VE HAD THE CONSTRUCTION SITE THERE, THE AUSPICE ARE NOT COMING LIKE THEY DO EVERY DAY AT 4 O'CLOCK, EATING FISH OFF THE LOONS OF THE PINE TREES.

THE CHILDREN THAT PLAY IN THE PARK, THERE ARE ALWAYS EASTER EGG CONES, THEY'RE ALWAYS BIRTHDAY PARTIES.

THEY'RE STORMING FRISBEES.

THEY USE THE BACKSIDE, THE WEST PART OF THAT PARK ALL THE TIME.

PEOPLE COME IN HERE AS DAVID WAS SAYING FOR LUNCH, THEY'RE COMING THERE AFTER THE WORKDAY JUST TO SIT UNDERNEATH THE TREES AND RELAX AND ENJOY THE SOLIDARITY AND THE COMFORT OF THAT AREA BECAUSE IT HAS OLD GROWTH PINES IN THERE,

[01:30:04]

PINES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE.

I'VE LIVED IN JUPITER SINCE '68 AND RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PARK, ON MORELAND DRIVE IN MORELAND CIRCLE.

I'VE ALWAYS GONE OVER THE PARK BECAUSE MY DAD, OF COURSE, WAS A BUILDING INSPECTOR IN 1973 FOR 22 YEARS FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

WE LOVE THAT PARK.

SO MANY PEOPLE GO OVER THAT PARK THAT YOU WOULD NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND IT UNLESS YOU LIVED IN THAT AREA AND SAW THEM REGULARLY.

LIKE HE SAID, AT&T PEOPLE COME AND STAY IN THAT PARK AND EAT THEIR LUNCH, EPS GUYS STOP IN THAT PARK AND EAT THEIR LUNCH.

THEY COME IN AFTERWARDS AND CHILDREN COME AFTER SCHOOL AND PLAY IN THAT PARK AND USE THAT BACK SECTION ALSO TO PRACTICE SOCCER AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

YOU SEE THE KIDS FROM THE CHURCH.

THIS IS ONE OF THE OLDER HISTORIC AREAS IN THE TOWN.

YOU WILL NOT FIND THESE OLD HOUSES AS OLD THEY ARE ANYWHERE ELSE IN JUPITER, BUT ON THAT PROPERTY THAT'S STILL RESIDENTS ARE LIVING IN.

THE CULPEPERS, DOWN DIXIE, YOU JUST SEE THESE OLD HOUSES ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE GOT ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT WAS ON DANA'S PROPERTY, THAT'S ALL FROM SAUSAGE PAY.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THIS AS A HISTORIC AREA FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

PEOPLE WILL COME, PEOPLE WILL GO TO THIS LITTLE MUSEUM, PEOPLE WILL SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL THIS LITTLE PRISTINE AREA IS BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY LIKE OLD JUPITER.

NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE BIG LIGHTHOUSE THERE TO EITHER DRAW, BUT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THERE AND ENJOY SEEING A LITTLE OLD CHURCH THAT'S THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE ALL THIS UNDER CONSIDERATION AND DO NOT LET THEM PUT ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION SITE, TEMPORARY OR WHATEVER IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE USAGE OF THAT PROPERTY THAT SHOULD BE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

[APPLAUSE]

>> LEONI, THEN CARLTON CASTLE.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL. AGAIN, [INAUDIBLE] LEONI 132 BARBADOS DRIVE.

JUST WANT TO START OFF MY TONE, ANYTHING I SAY I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL TO ANY OF YOU.

IT IS MY PASSION.

I'VE BEEN FIGHTING TO GET THIS SITE MOVED UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST FOR THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD SINCE 2020 AND WE'RE FINALLY AT THAT NIGHT.

I HOPE TONIGHT IT DOESN'T GET MESSED UP AND THE ENTIRE 2.4 ACRES THAT WE KNOW IS OLD TOWN HALL PARK GETS DESIGNATED HISTORIC.

IT'S ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY.

THE HISTORY ON THIS SITE GOES BACK OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.

THE EARLIEST PLOT THAT I'M ABLE TO FIND WAS RECORDED IN 1912.

THAT'S ACTUALLY 111 YEARS OF HISTORY ON THIS SITE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ALSO DESIGNATED AS OPEN WORKSPACE.

IT'S BEEN MENTIONED. THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY ON THIS SITE, LOT OF CIVIC HISTORY.

THE FIRST LOCATION FOR A PERMANENT SCHOOL STRUCTURE.

THE FIRST VOTES IN 1925 TO INCORPORATE THE TOWN OF JUPITER, THAT'S ALMOST 100 YEARS AGO.

THE FIRST TOWN HALL, THE FIRST POLICE STATION WHERE CHIEF MAYOR, WHO WE JUST NAMED THE JUPITER POLICE STATION AFTER, WORKED OUT OF THERE.

THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD.

IT WAS INITIALLY PRESENTED TO JUST DESIGNATE THE OLD TOWN HALL BUILDING AND TOOK IT UPON THEIR PROFESSIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE TO RECOMMEND DESIGNATING ALL 2.4 ACRES, AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL LISTEN TO THEM AS AN ADVISORY BOARD AND THEIR EDUCATION EXPERIENCE, AND EXPERTISE AGAIN, TO DESIGNATE ALL 2.4 ACRES.

NOT REALLY SURE WHY THE WESTERN SIDE WOULD BE LEFT OUT OF THAT, AS MENTIONED BY A COUPLE OF OTHER SPEAKERS, THAT WESTERN HALF IS AS MUCH PART OF THE EASTERN 1.2 ACRES TO MAKE IT AN ENTIRE 2.4 ACRES WORTH DESIGNATING HISTORIC.

I'VE BEEN TAKING MY CHILDREN THERE SINCE I COULD GET THEM OUT OF THE HOUSE.

I HAVE TWIN BOYS AND NOT THAT EASY TO TAKE TWO LITTLE ONES OUT OF THE HOUSE, BUT WE'D GO TO JUPITER DONUTS, WE GO TO THE LOCOMOTIVE.

WE GO SIT THERE, I THINK SOME OF THE FIRST TIMES RUNNING AROUND OUTSIDE OF OUR BACKYARD WE'RE IN THAT PARK, KICKING A FOOTBALL OR EXCUSE ME, KICKING A SOCCER BALL, CATCHING FOOTBALL, GOING DOWN THE SLIDES, MEETING GRANDPARENTS THERE.

I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE, I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS HERE THAT CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

THAT GO WAY FURTHER BACK IN HISTORY THAN I DO.

SO I URGE YOU GUYS TO PLEASE DESIGNATE ALL 2.4 ACRES.

I THINK ANY ADDITIONAL TIME OR CONSTRAINTS THAT COULD BE PUT ONTO ANY PROJECTS THAT GO ON IN SEMINOLE BASIN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT COULD BE WORKED INTO THE TIMELINE, CAN BE WORKED WITH THAT CONTRACTOR.

ANY PROJECTS FOR THE TOWN THAT REQUIRES COA, IT COMES BEFORE YOU ALL, IT COMES BEFORE YOUR STAFF WHO ARE VERY COMPETENT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO PROTECT HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN THIS TOWN.

[01:35:01]

SO PLEASE PROTECT ALL 2.4 ACRES.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> CARLTON.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CARLTON CASTLE.

I LIVE AT 957 TOWN HALL AVENUE, CANDY CORN TO THE PARK.

I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND SPEAK FOR THIS ENTIRE PARK TO GET DESIGNATED, NOT JUST HALF OF IT.

COMPARATIVELY SMALL PORTION THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR CONSTRUCTION, STORAGE IS ALREADY TOO MUCH SPACE THAT'S BEING TAKEN UP 30-FOOT TRACTORS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, TAKING UP MORE SPACE THAN NORMAL CAR, ALL THE WASTE THAT'S BEING LEFTOVER, THE FENCES FALLING OVER, THE MOUNTAINS OF ROCK AND DIRT THAT ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETELY CLEANED UP BY, HOPEFULLY, THE 22ND, BUT WHATEVER DATE THAT DOES HAPPEN.

TO THINK THAT YOU WOULD ONLY DESIGNATE HALF OF THIS PARK AS HISTORICAL SEEM SILLY.

JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NO STRUCTURES OR MAN-MADE OBJECTS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS PART DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NO HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

I'M SURE YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT IF YOU'RE HOLDING A TOWN COUNCIL IN THAT OLD BUILDING AS THEY USED TO, THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THEY WOULD NEED TO GO OUT, HAVE A QUIET PLACE TO THINK, HAVE A PLACE TO EAT LUNCH.

UNDOUBTEDLY, THEY WERE WALKING THROUGH THAT SAME PARK JUST AS PEOPLE DO TODAY.

AS OTHERS HAVE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THAT PARK GETS USED ALL DAY LONG, EVERY DAY.

I'M IN THAT PARK EVERY DAY.

I WORK REMOTELY FROM HOME.

IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO GO AND FIND SOME QUIET TO OR AT LEAST IT WAS BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION STORAGE WAS HAPPENING.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO URGE THE COUNCIL TO DESIGNATE THAT ENTIRE PARK AS HISTORICAL.

I KNOW THE LAST TIME SUNSTROKE YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT FLOODING AND THAT'S WHY THIS WHOLE THING HAS BEEN PUT OFF FOR TWO TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS.

LIKE I SAID, I'M THERE EVERY DAY EVEN AFTER IF IT'S RAINED BEFORE, IF HURRICANES HAVE COME THROUGH, IT'S NOT CRAZY LEVEL OF FLOODING THAT'S HAPPENED.

IF WE HAVE TO PUT A COA ON THIS PLACE AND IF SOMETHING DOES NEED TO HAPPEN, I SEE THAT AS A GOOD THING.

WHY SHOULD WE LET THIS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND GET TARNISHED WITH CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, TRASH THAT ACCUMULATES? SO THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> [BACKGROUND].

>> OKAY.

AS WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DELIBERATIONS, FIRST I WANT TOE PUBLIC RECORD. YOUR LAST MEETING.

TOWN MANAGER HEARD YOU AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

WE ASKED THE TOWN MANAGER TO LOOK INTO THE CONTRACT TO SEE WHAT RIGHTS WE HAD TO GET THE CONTRACT OFF THE SITE.

SO IT WAS A CONTRACT.

I'M GOING TO ASK THE TOWN MANAGER TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, BUT THAT WAS A REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL.

SO THE NEXT DAY IT WAS THE TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF THAT WENT.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO LIFT THE TOWN MANAGER SPEAK, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WANTED THE EQUIPMENT OFF THE SITE.

SO THAT WAS THE DIRECTION.

HOPEFULLY THAT'LL HAPPEN BY 09:22.

THEY WERE DIRECTED GET THE EQUIPMENT OUT OF THERE.

OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THE CLEAN-UPS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, BUT AGAIN OUR TOWN MANAGER IS WORKING ON THAT.

SO WE DID HEAR THAT MESSAGE.

SO WITH THAT, LET ME JUST FIRST TURN IT OVER TO THE TOWN MANAGER TO SPEAK TO THAT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT WAS ALL SHE SAW DRIVING AROUND ON YOUR RING DOORBELL, THE SAME CAR A COUPLE OF TIMES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DID GO TO THE VERY NEXT DAY, HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR WHAT WAS BEING SAID.

I WENT WITH ROGER HELD OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, AMANDA BARNES, THE DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES KATE MORADO, THE ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER AND MYSELF.

WE DROVE DOWN THERE AND I SAW EXACTLY WHAT THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

BASED ON THAT, WE'VE DONE IT SEVERAL THINGS.

NUMBER 1 IS WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND INFORM THE CONTRACTOR THAT HE HAS TO HAVE ALL OF THAT MATERIAL OFF THE PROPERTY BY FRIDAY.

SO WE'RE HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT.

THEN I ALSO HAVE OUR OWN TOWN STAFF STANDING BY IN CASE AFTER THAT PROPERTY IS REMOVED, THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS TO CLEAN UP THAT SITE WE USE TOWN RESOURCES TO DO THAT CLEANUP PIECE.

I DID GO DOWN OLD FLORIDA AVENUE AND SAW ALL THE DUST AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE WORKING TO GET THAT PIECE FIXED AS WELL.

THEN WE ALSO TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THE SITE WHERE THE ACTUAL WORK IS DONE.

[01:40:02]

EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEYS FIRM TO ADVISE THE CONTRACTOR WITH FORMAL NOTICE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING THE DECLARATION OF HIM BEING IN DEFAULT AND THAT HAS VERY BIG FINANCIAL CONSEQUENCES FOR THEM IN THE BONDING COMPANY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PURSUING THEM PRETTY HARD.

I'M LOOKING AT THE COPY OF THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT TO THEM ON THE 15TH.

WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP ON THAT AS WELL.

UTILITIES DIRECTOR AMANDA BARNES'S HERE AND SHE'D BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING THIS EVEN BEFORE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

SHE'S BEEN ON TOP OF IT.

SO WE DO HERE YOU WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THINGS AND WE'LL BE WATCHING VERY CLOSELY FOR FRIDAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IS OFF OF THERE.

IF IT'S NOT, WE'LL MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO GET IT OFF OF THERE.

>> THANK YOU. ONE MORE POINT I WANT TO MAKE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL IS THAT CERTAINLY THIS PROJECT REALLY TURNED NEGATIVE BASED ON, QUITE FRANKLY, CONTRACTOR PERFORMANCE ISSUES.

THAT'S WHAT CAUSED IT.

THE BONDING COMPANY WAS INVOLVED WAS INSANE, CORRECT? IT LANGUISHED A LOT LONGER THAN ANYBODY WOULD HAVE EXPECTED.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, SOMETIMES THESE SITUATIONS ARE THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GIVE COUNCIL GUIDANCE.

BUT I'M GOING TO ASK THAT COUNCIL THAT STAFF NEVER CONSIDER USE OF ANY PUBLIC PROPERTY.

I KNOW THIS IS GOING DIRECTIVE, BUT NEVER CONSIDER USE OF PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR LAY DOWN AREA WITHOUT FIRST COME INTO THE COUNCIL AND ASKING FOR CONCURRENCE ABOUT THAT.

I'D GIVE YOU THINK BASED ON WHAT HAD TO HAPPEN.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT ANY NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO THROUGH THIS THAT SETS THE FRAMEWORK THAT THERE MAY BE BY EXCEPTION WE ALLOW SOMETHING BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE.

I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF YOU AGREEMENT THAT COUNCIL DIRECTIONS.

>> RIGHT.

>> NEIGHBORHOOD SERVINGS OR?

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> WITH THAT, I RETURNED TO THE COUNCIL FOR DELIBERATIONS ON THIS ITEM RESOLUTION BEFORE US.

ANYBODY WANT TO TALK?

>> THIS IS ONE OF THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE TOWN AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE 2.4 ACRE SHOULD BE PRESERVED.

I LOOK AT IT AS CONTRACTORS, THEY BID A JOB, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND THE STAGING AREA UNLESS LIKE EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE NEED.

SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE TOWN, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THAT TO BE USED AS A STAGING AREA.

JUST APPROXIMATELY THE OLDER HOMES.

IT'S JUST THAT WHOLE PROPERTY HAS JUST SO MUCH HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE INVOLVED IN IT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE, SO I'M GOING TO PRESERVE THE WHOLE PROPERTY.

>> YEAH, I AGREE. IT'S KIND OF FUNNY.

MY MOM REMINDED ME THE OTHER DAY SHE SAID, WE USED TO GO TO THAT PARK, SHE CALLED IT BYE BYE BIRDIE PARK. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY.

BUT WHEN I WAS LIKE 2-3 YEARS OLD, 30 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT.

I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE PARK MY ENTIRE LIFE.

I TAKE MY KIDS THERE NOW TOO, AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE PRESERVE IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

I'M ALWAYS SUPPORTIVE OF DOING THAT IN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT ACTION.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE DIVIDING IT UP.

>> I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THIS BECAUSE OF THE STORM WATER ISSUES AND I UNDERSTAND THE HARDSHIP WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS CONTRACTOR.

THAT SAID, I ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO RESIDENTS AS A WHOLE SITE.

I GO THERE EVERY WEEKEND AS WELL.

PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW THIS BUT I ACTUALLY GOT ENGAGED TO THE SWING SET.

IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AS A POINT IN MY CHILDHOOD AND MY LIFE.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IN WAYS THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW.

I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL HAS BROADER PRIORITIES WITH PROTECTING PROPERTY.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT STOPPING WORK, IT'S GIVING IT A FEW EXTRA HURDLES JUST TO FOCUS ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M OKAY WITH IT.

>> I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL, BUT ALSO TO THE PUBLIC A COMMENT ABOUT LAY DOWN AREA.

[01:45:01]

THERE ARE SOME TIMES THAT IT'S APPROPRIATELY WE HAVE PROPERTY PIKE PLACE, WHICH IS A LONG US ONE AND WE OFFER THAT UP FOR LAY DOWN FOR THE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH THAT WOULD EXPECT EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE TO, BUT TO DO SO, IT'S NOT THAT THE COUNCIL WON'T AGREE ON OCCASION.

WE JUST WANT TO AVOID SOMETHING AND I DON'T FAULT THE STAFF PER SE.

IN THEIR JUDGMENT, THEY THOUGHT HAD BEEN OVER AND DONE QUICKLY.

BUT THESE THINGS ARE TOO IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE GIVEN THAT POLICY GUIDANCE.

>> WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT MAYOR.

THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.

THEY REALLY WERE ATTEMPTING TO SPEED THAT PROJECT UP IN THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE WOUND UP IN THIS DILEMMA.

>> UNDERSTAND.

>> WE GOT IT.

>> OKAY. SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE RESOLUTION?

>> JUST REAL QUICK CLARIFICATION.

THE RESOLUTION, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AN UPDATE ON THERE.

IF WE APPROVED THE ORIGINAL LARGE RESOLUTION OF 4923, DOES THAT PRESERVE THE ENTIRE 2.4 ACRES?

>> THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU SAW AT THE PRIOR MEETING, HERE'S ATTACHMENT E IN YOUR PACKET.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT VERSION, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT'S THE VERSION THAT INCLUDES THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

>> NO, I THINK THIS WAS A COUNSELOR ASSUMPTIONS PROJECT, SO I'D LIKE TO HAND IT OFF TO HER FOR THE MOTION.

>> SURE.

>> THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. MOTION TO APPROVE ATTACH ME.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY [APPLAUSE].

>> WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT IN A WHILE [LAUGHTER].

>> THAT FOR GOOD.

>> MOVE IT ON THE PUBLIC BUSINESS DISCUSSION

[15. Discussion regarding filling the Town Council vacancy.]

REGARDING FILLING THE TOWN COUNCIL VACANCY AND I'D ASK OUR TOWN ATTORNEY TO SHARE THE OPINION YOU PROVIDED ABOUT THE LANGUAGE THAT PROVIDES FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES.

>> WELL, THE CHARTER PROVIDES THAT YOU HAVE TWO MEETINGS TO DISCUSS FILLING THE VACANCY.

IF AT THE CONCLUSION OF THOSE TWO MEETINGS YOU HAVE NOT SELECTED AN INDIVIDUAL TO FILL THAT VACANCY, A SPECIAL ELECTION HAS TO BE CALLED.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST DISCUSSION YOU WILL HAVE ON FILLING THAT VACANCY.

>> THANK YOU AND I GUESS JUST TO KICK THIS OFF, NUMBER 1, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE COUNCIL FIRST OF ALL, THERE WAS A SUDDEN RESIGNATION THAT CAUGHT MANY OF US OFF GUARD.

I KNOW MYSELF.

IT WASN'T ANY ACTION.

WE HAD TO GET TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT IT, WHICH WAS THE VERY NEXT MEETING.

AND WE TALKED PROCESS AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO GO OUT AND ASK THE PUBLIC TO APPLY IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY ON THIS OPEN SEAT AND I THINK TO THE DEGREE THAT WE GOT 35 MEMBERS WHO ARE QUALIFIED THAN APPLIED.

THINK THAT ATTESTS TO THE FACT THAT WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GIVEN FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO PEOPLE TO FOR THE SOAP AND SEEDS.

TONIGHT IS THE FIRST NIGHT AND HOPEFULLY WE COME TO AN AGREEMENT TONIGHT.

IF NOT, AS YOU HEARD FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY, WOULD HAVE TO BE WRAPPED UP BY THE NEXT MEETING.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THE COUNCIL AND NOT TO PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT, BUT STARTING AT THE END, COUNSELOR MADE DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS REGARD?

>> FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED THAT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT TRULY CARE ABOUT OUR TOWN AND WANTED TO PUT IN AN APPLICATION TO SERVE.

I TOOK MY TIME, I LOOKED THERE WERE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS TO SEE, WHO WAS APPLYING TYPES OF BACKGROUND THAT THEY HAD, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE NAME THAT RELIGIOUS STICKS OUT TO ME FOR THIS IS TERI GROOMS. SHE HAS MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD.

SHE'S THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SHE HAS THAT EXPERIENCE THAT SHE CAN BRING TO THIS DIETS AND ALSO LIVING IN DISTRICT WON HER ENTIRE LIFE AS THEIR TRUE JUPITER LOCAL REALLY SPEAKS TO ME AS SOMEONE WHO'S ALSO FROM HERE.

[01:50:02]

I'D TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE APPOINT TERI GROOMS.

>> COUNCIL SUNDSTORM.

>> I JUST WANTED TO START WITH WHAT I WAS THINKING IN TERMS OF CRITERIA FOR THIS.

I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAD PEOPLE APPLY IN THE BEGINNING FROM OUTSIDE OF THAT ERA AND WE HAD TO COME UP WITH CRITERIA FOR THE APPLICATION, BUT I THINK SOME EXPRESSED A PREFERENCE FOR DISTRICT ONE.

I DO WANT TO SAY MY CRITERIA AND LOOKING AT THESE APPLICATIONS, AND I DO WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP.

I MEAN, THEY ARE ONE MEETING AWAY FROM BEING UP HERE.

TO PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION WITH ALL THAT IS INVOLVED IS REALLY SOMETHING, SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO DID THAT AND PUT THEIR NAME IN THE HAT.

BUT MY CRITERIA WOULD BE FIRST A DISTRICT ONE PREFERENCE, THIS SITA'S DISTRICT ONE COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER, DISTRICT ONE.

IT'S A UNIQUE POINT OF VIEW.

IT'S THE COASTAL JUPITER OR OFF OF ROUTE 1, IT'S NORTHERN JUPITER.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THAT PREFERENCE.

A LARGE NUMBER OF CANDIDATES WERE IN DISTRICT 1, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CHOICES.

I THINK A SECOND PIECE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IS HISTORY OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

NOT JUST GETTING INVOLVED NOW, BUT HAVING BEEN INVOLVED, ARE WANTING TO GET INVOLVED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

I DID LOOK AT WORK ON DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND VOLUNTEERING OR PREVIOUS SERVICE ON COUNCIL.

JUST ANY HISTORY OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROCESS ARE PROCESSES WHICH ARE DISTINCT FROM OTHER OUR CODES ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES.

ALL OF THAT COUNCIL ISSUES JUST FOLLOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN ATTENDING MEETINGS, WATCHING MEETINGS ARE SHOWING KNOWLEDGE OF MEETINGS.

I THINK ANOTHER THING IS JUST PROFESSIONAL AND OTHER EXPERIENCE AND BACKGROUND.

WE EACH HAVE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS THAT CAN COME TO BEAR ON DECISION-MAKING.

ALSO JUST AN AFFECTION FOR THE TOWN.

I AGREE THAT LOCAL THAT JUST A LONG TIME IN THIS TOWN, THE AFFECTION FOR THE TOWN, NOT JUST KNOWLEDGE OF A TOWN, BUT AFFECTION FOR IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

ALSO JUST ON A YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MAJOR ISSUES THAN OUR TOWN AND I KNOW COUNSELORS SCHNEIDER WAS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT JUST MANAGING GROWTH AND FOCUSING ON THAT.

I WOULD WANT THERE TO BE SOME RECORD WHERE RESIDENTS COULD UNDERSTAND AND KNOW OR SOMEONE STANDS ON SOME OF THE BIGGER ITEMS IN THE TOWN.

LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE CRITERIA, WHAT CAME TO ME WAS ACTUALLY FRANK FORCE SO HE'S ON OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.

HE'S BEEN HERE FOR 38 YEARS.

HE LIVES IN DISTRICT 1 ON THE WATER.

HE BOATS REGULARLY AS A SCUBA LICENSE I BELIEVE.

I SERVED WITH HIM ON PLANNING AND ZONING, VERY CALM PRESENCE, VERY CONSTRUCTIVE, STRONG, KNOWLEDGEABLE ON ZONING AND PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUES.

THAT WOULD BE MY TOP CHOICE.

THAT SAID, I KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T NEGOTIATION OR A DISCUSSION AND I HAVE A LIST.

I THINK WE ALL DO OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

AS WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS,.

>> COUNSELOR DELANEY.

>> SQUISH,.

>> VICE MAYOR, EXCUSE ME. [LAUGHTER].

>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SHE SAID, SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT IT.

I DIDN'T ELIMINATE EVERYBODY FROM DISTRICT SHOE, BUT I REALLY DISTRICT 1, IS THIS SPECIFIC DISTRICT.

I'M ALL ABOUT REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT, SO I REALLY THINK SHOULD BE A DISTRICT ONE REP.

I HAVE AND THANK EVERYBODY FOR THROWING YOUR HAT IN THE RING AS OUR OLD MAYOR USED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WHAT CHALLENGE, WHAT A JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS.

A PIECE OF YOUR LIFE THAT YOU GAVE UP DOING THIS AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS, TIME, VACATIONS, ALL THAT'S A LOT, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT OF YOU FOLKS WANTED TO BE ON THIS COUNCIL.

I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY MAYBE A NEW FACE, SOMEBODY WHO HAS SOME MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT BACKGROUND OR EXPERIENCE SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TOWN AND I CAME UP, I HAVE THREE FAVORITES.

I HAVE DAVID THOMPSON, WHO'S ON OUR HISTORIC COMMISSION, AND HE'S ON THE LUXE HACE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

I ALSO HAVE FRANK FORCE WHO'S ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHO I'VE WATCHED HIM THROUGH MANY MEETINGS AND I AGREE HE HAS A GREAT RESUME ENGINEER.

A LOT OF THESE A CAPTAIN, HE JUST FITS IN WITH THE COMMUNITY HERE.

ALSO JIM DAVIS WHO SERVES ON THE JUPITER INLET DISTRICT.

HE HAS THE SAME RESUME AND GOVERNMENT CHOPS.

I GUESS I'D LISTEN TO THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK OF MY LIST.

[01:55:04]

>> I'M SOMEWHAT DIDOT, WHICH BEEN SHED BEFORE ME.

PARTICULARLY THE MORE DETAIL THAT COUNTS FOR SON'S DRUM PROVIDED.

FIRST OF ALL, THE DISTRICTS, WHETHER YOU'RE IN DISTRICT 1, OR YOU'RE IN DISTRICT 2, WE ALL REPRESENT THE ENTIRE TOWN.

I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC MISUNDERSTANDS THAT SOMETIME THEY SHOW YOU OUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE.

THE INTENT OF THE CODE ON RESIDENCY FOR DISTRICTS IS THAT AT LEAST THERE'S A PERCEPTION ON THE PUBLIC THAT NOT EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL IS FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ONE AREA.

THAT BEING SAID, I'M SO ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, THIS IS A DISTRICT 1 SEAT AND I HAD A PREFERENCE FOR SOMEBODY FROM DISTRICT 1, DOES IT MEAN THAT I DIDN'T LOOK AT CANDIDATES AND THEY WERE SOME GOOD CANDIDATES, YOU KNOW, AS WELL FROM DISTRICT 2.

BUT JUST TO BE SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT, IF YOU WILL LOVE THIS APPOINTMENT THAT WOULD BE MADE IS ABOUT A YEAR-AND-A-HALF OF TIME.

MY INCLINATION THEREFORE WAS DESPITE SOME GOOD CANDIDATES AND DISTRICT 2, WAS TO SEE WHO WON DISTRICT 1 WOULD BE THE BEST FIT AND SO AGAIN, I'M VERY GRATEFUL.

IT'S INCREDIBLE THE DIVERSITY OF EXPERIENCE AND PASSION THAT CAME FORTH TO US IN THESE APPLICATIONS.

IN THE END, I THINK WE EACH HAVE A JUDGMENT TO PICK.

WE EACH HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY TO PICK SOMEBODY WE THINK COULD STEP IN AND FILL THAT SEAT AND IN BEST SERVE THE PUBLIC.

I KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO COME DOWN TO SOME DISCUSSIONS HERE.

LIKEWISE, PER SE, COME DOWN TO THIS ONE OR THAT ONE, BUT RATHER TRIED TO USE SOME PRIORITIZATION.

I DO BELIEVE, BASED ON FRANK FORCE, EXPERIENCED SOME PLANNING AND ZONING THAT HE HAS EXHIBITED IN HAS A TRACK RECORD ON.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING TO YOU AREN'T OTHERS, BUT IT SAYS BACKGROUND.

I DO THINK HE WOULD MAKE A GOOD CANDIDATE.

LIKEWISE, I THOUGHT THAT DAVID THOMPSON WAS PERSPECTIVELY ANOTHER GOOD CANDIDATE, IF YOU WILL, ON COUNCIL AND DOESN'T MEAN I'M GOING TO JUST STOP BECAUSE I COULD ADD A NUMBER, BUT I THINK I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE'RE COMING DOWN TO SOME CONSENSUS BEING 3,3,4,3 OR MORE FOUR SELECTION.

>> I HAD I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF PRIORITIZATION.

I DO HAVE FRANK FORCE AS MY TOP CHOICE FOR MR. DAVIS, MIKE, I'M GRATEFUL HE APPLIED.

I THINK HE'S A WONDERFUL THAT.

I JUST MY CONCERN THERE WAS THAT HE'S ALREADY ON INTELLECT IS AN ELECTED POSITION WITH ANOTHER ENTITY ELECTED TO THAT POSITION SO I WOULD HESITATE TO REMOVE HIM FROM AN ELECTED POSITION.

THEN DAVID THOMPSON DID REACH OUT IN A NUMBER OF CANDIDATES REACHED OUT AND WERE VERY PRODUCTIVE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THEIR STORY AND BACKGROUND.

HE DOES SERVE ON A BOARD.

HE DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK I WOULD JUST FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE GIVEN AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES, BUT I THINK THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ISSUE IN TIME.

RECORD ON THAT ISSUE GIVEN COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER'S BACKGROUND AND HER EFFORTS WOULD MAKE ME MORE COMFORTABLE WITH FRANK FORCE BUT HE IS ALSO AN EXCELLENT CANDIDATE.

I AGREE THE PRIORITIZATION I WOULD SAY MY FIRST CHOICE WOULD BE FRANK FORCE MAYBE MY SECOND, DAVID THOMPSON.

>> I AGREE WITH YOUR THOUGHTS ON MR. DAVIS.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO PULL HIM OFF ANOTHER BOARD.

YES, SO I'M DOWN WITH DAVID AND FRANK.

WE DECIDED TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO CHEW ON IT UNTIL NEXT MEETING.

[02:00:03]

>> I THINK WE SHOULD DECIDE.

COUNCIL MEMBER, MAY DO YOU WANT ANYTHING?

>> YEAH, I SAT WITH MR. FOREIGN ON PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN I WAS THERE.

I DO THINK HE'S A GREAT CANDIDATE TOO, BUT IT'S A BIG DECISION.

I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT IF WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO A TOP COUPLE, THREE OR FOUR OR WHATEVER AND JUST CHEW ON IT THAT WAY IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE MEET WITH A FEW OF THESE GUYS, THESE PEOPLE IN PERSON.

I KNOW I HAVE A VERY BUSY LIFE, BUT I'LL MAKE THE TIME TO REACH OUT AND HAVE A MEETING WITH EACH OF THEM TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

>> WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> YES. FIRST, WE HAVE DAVID BIHAR, THEN WE HAVE M.B HAIRE.

>> MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS DAVID BIHAR.

I APPLIED TO FILL THE VACANCY AND FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THOSE THAT MET WITH ME AND COMMITTED THEIR TIME TO ME AND THAT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

I UNDERSTAND I HEARD THE DISCUSSION, BUT I STILL WANT TO AT LEAST COMMUNICATE WHAT I THINK I CAN BRING TO THIS COUNCIL.

I THINK THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR STABILITY, COMPETENCE IN DIVERSITY, EXPERIENCE, AND I THINK I CAN OFFER THAT.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 1.

PERSONALLY, I WAS BORN IN VENEZUELA.

I WAS RAISED IN MIAMI GARDENS IN A TURF NEIGHBORHOOD.

SURROUNDED BY POVERTY.

I WAS ROBBED AT GUNPOINT WHEN I WAS A KID.

THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE, I LEARNED HOW TO EMPATHIZE WITH THE POOR, WHILE ALSO BALANCE LAW AND ORDER.

THAT'S WHAT I GOT FROM THAT EXPERIENCE AND INTERESTINGLY, I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AT A HIGH SCHOOL THAT PULLED FROM A RICH COMMUNITY.

I BECAME FRIENDS WITH VERY WEALTHY PEOPLE AND IN THAT SITUATION, I LEARNED EMPATHY FOR THE POOR WHILE STILL HAVING EMPATHY FOR THE RICH, WHICH I THINK FALLS BY THE WAYSIDE SOMETIMES.

AS A PROFESSIONAL, I WAS THE FIRST PERSON WHO GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE AND MY FAMILY, I WAITED TABLES AND BAR TENDED TO PAY FOR THAT.

MY DREAM CAME TRUE WHEN I GOT ACCEPTED TO LAW SCHOOL, UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI, WHERE I GRADUATED SECOND IN MY CLASS.

I WORKED FOR THE LARGEST FIRM IN THE COUNTRY REPRESENTING FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES.

AGAIN, INVALUABLE BUSINESS EXPERIENCE SO I LEARNED INDUSTRY THERE.

THEN I WORKED FOR A FEDERAL JUDGE WHERE I EXPERIENCED ONE OF THE MOST EMPATHETIC DECISION-MAKERS ON THE PLANET AND HE HAS PASSED AWAY.

BUT I LEARNED TREMENDOUSLY FROM JUDGE BRANNON AND NOW I WORK IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

I UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND THE DECISIONS THAT YOU ALL MAKE.

THROUGH ALL THAT, ON THE PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL SIDE, I CAN OFFER YOU BALANCE, I CAN OFFER YOU DEDICATION, HARD WORK, AND A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.

NOW, I GAVE YOU A LOT OF MIAMI INFORMATION.

WHY DO I LIVE IN JUPITER? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MY SON TO BE ROBBED.

THAT'S WHY I MOVED TO JUPITER.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE, AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD PROTECT EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS PROTECT, AND THAT WHAT EVERYONE HERE WANTS, WHICH IS A SAFE COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD EMPHASIZE IS MENTAL HEALTH.

I BELIEVE A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE DEAL WITH STEM FROM LACK OF KINDNESS AND EMPATHY, WHICH ALL INVOLVE SOME MENTAL HEALTH.

HOW DO YOU BOLSTER THAT? NUMBER 1, IN MY VIEW IS PHYSICAL FITNESS.

I USED TO WEIGH 240 POUNDS.

I'M 80 POUNDS LIGHTER AND I WILL TELL YOU MY MENTAL HEALTH HAS IMPROVED.

IF THERE'S ANY PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT WILL IMPROVE PHYSICAL FITNESS, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

FINANCIAL STABILITY THAT ALSO IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH, WHETHER IT'S CONSERVATIVE, FISCAL POLICIES OR MAKING PROPER DECISIONS WITH THE TREASURY, THAT'S ALL IMPORTANT TO MENTAL HEALTH AS WELL.

THEN ROLE MODELS.

I COACH YOUTH SOCCER NOW, I'VE COACHED YOUTH BASKETBALL, AND WE NEED ROLE MODELS, ESPECIALLY MALE ROLE MODELS.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

[APPLAUSE]

>> M. B HAIRE.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

FOR THE RECORD, M. B HAIRE, TWO WEEKS AGO I MOVED INTO 11886 SOUTHWEST BRISTOL BAY INPUT SENTENCING.

YOU CAN TAKE ME OUT OF JUPITER, BUT FOR 30 YEARS YOU CAN'T TAKE JUPITER OUT OF ME.

YOU'RE ALL MY FRIENDS AND WE SHARE A LOT OF HISTORY TOGETHER.

THIS ISN'T A TOUGH CHOICE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY APPLICATIONS YOU'VE RECEIVED.

YOU ALL KNOW IN YOUR HEARTS AND IN YOUR MINDS.

THAT TERI GROOMS IS A PERSON WHO IS THE MOST QUALIFIED, WORTHY AND WHICH SHE'LL BE AND SHOULD BE APPOINTED.

HOW OFTEN DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE WITH THAT CALIBER AND EXPERIENCE BEFORE YOU TO CHOOSE? SEIZING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A COUNCIL, GROOMS WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF JUPITER RESIDENTS, TOWN STAFF, AND BEYOND.

SOME OF THE OTHER RESUMES DESCRIBE STELLAR PERSONAL CAREERS.

[02:05:02]

BUT NONE OF THEM, INCLUDING ANDY FOE, WHO I WORKED WITH ON PLANNING AND ZONING, CAN HIGHLIGHT AND THE PREPARATION AND QUALIFICATIONS THAT TERRY ALREADY HAS AND WHICH ARE NECESSARY TO PERFORM THE JOB OF TODAY'S TOWN COUNCIL.

THE WEEK AFTER COUNSELOR SLIDER RESIGNED I CONTACTED EACH OF YOU IN ORDER TO LIST A FEW OF THE MANY REASONS WHY TERRY SHOULD FILL THE SEAT.

WITH ONLY THREE MINUTES ON THE RECORD.

HERE ARE JUST SOME OF THEM SO EVERYONE ELSE CAN HEAR.

HER KNOWLEDGE OF TOWN GOVERNMENT, ATTENDING YEARS AND YEARS OF NUMEROUS COUNCIL AND OTHER MEETINGS, STUDYING AGENDAS, INVESTIGATING ITEMS, MAKING COMMENTS, STEPPING UP TO SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, REGULARLY CONVERSING WITH ALL OF YOU AND WITH PAST COUNCIL MEMBERS.

KNOWING THE CURRENT CODE, COMPREHENSIVE AND STRATEGIC PLANS, PRESSING ISSUES, CHALLENGES, DEPARTMENTS AND STAFF READY ON DAY 1.

NO LEARNING CURVE REQUIRED.

FOR LIVING HISTORY GETS LEGACY AND NEWER RESIDENCE, THE VOICE OF A TRUE LOCAL, ALONG WITH THAT RARE PERSPECTIVE, A SOLID DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT.

HER LEADERSHIP, ELECTED AS CHAIR BY HER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION COLLEAGUES FOR THE LAST TWO ELECTION CYCLES, COMPLEMENTED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR COMPETENCY AND DEMEANOR, MANAGING MEANINGS.

HER TENACITY, STRONG BELIEF THAT JUPITER ISSUES ARE TO BE WORKED THROUGH TOGETHER.

POLITICAL AFFILIATION OR AUDIOLOGY SHOULD HAVE NO PLACE IN THE PROCESS ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY BS PLUS GO TOE-TO-TOE WITH ANYONE PRESENTING IT.

HER CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITIZEN ADVOCATE, WORKING TIRELESSLY TO KEEP JUPITER A CONDUIT OF TOWN INFORMATION TO THE RESIDENTS, AND EVEN MORE, TERRY HAS FIERCELY WHO SUPPORTED EACH ONE OF YOU IN MANY WAYS, ALONG WITH BEING A CONSULTANT AND CONFIDENT.

IF YOU DON'T SELECT TERRY, IT COULD ONLY BE BECAUSE YOU'RE DELIBERATELY OVERLOOKING HER QUALIFICATIONS.

WHY WOULD YOU NOT CHOOSE THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO HAS EXPERIENCED THIS IN THE TRENCHES NOW, EVERY DAY.

WHILE WE'VE BEEN HERE MOTIVATION.

MANY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED BY RECENT MAJORITY DECISIONS, INCLUDING SUNNY SANDS AND A SURPRISE ERUPTION CONCERNING THE CONTRACT WITH PALM BEACH FIRE RESCUE.

OVERLOOKING TERRY WE'RE ONLY FURTHER QUESTION THE MAJORITY'S ACTIONS.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPOINT TERRY.

IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, I PLUS MANY OTHERS WILL BE LEFT KNOWING THAT SHE WAS THE ONE WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN SELECTED AND THEN WONDERING WHY SHE IS NOT.

[APPLAUSE].

>> LAST WE HAVE SENECA PRETTY MUCKY.

>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SENECA PRETTY MUCKY OF WEST RIVER DRIVE JUPITER.

RESIDENT OF JUPITER FOR 32 YEARS.

AS FAR AS THE VACANT SEAT, I'M JUST HOPING THAT THE SEAT WILL BE FILLED WITH SOMEONE WHO SHARES THE VALUES THAT COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER WAS ELECTED ON.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHAT COUNSELOR SAMSTRON WAS REFERRING TO.

SHE DEFINITELY ALWAYS SHOWED A LOT OF AFFECTION AND LOVE FOR THIS TOWN, AND I HOPE THAT WHOEVER YOU ELECT HAS ATTENDED LOTS OF MEETINGS, AND HAS BEEN PART OF ALL OF THIS, AND KNOWS HOW IT ALL WORKS.

MAYBE IT IS SOMEBODY FROM PLANNING AND ZONING OR SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN IN A LOT OF COMMITTEES AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> BRADLEY ONEY.

>> ISN'T HERE TONIGHT. BRADLEY ONEY, 132 BARBADOS DRIVE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.

I THREW MY OTHER RING, I WAS AT THE LAST MEETING, THE FIRST ONE TO COME AND ADDRESS YOU ALL PERSONALLY.

NO HARD FEELINGS, IT'S POLITICS.

THIS IS A DEMOCRACY, RESPECT THE PROCESS, RESPECT TO WHATEVER DECISION YOU ALL WILL MAKE.

I WILL JUST MENTION A FEW THINGS.

WHAT I THINK A GOOD CANDIDATE IS SOMEONE WHO'S ATTENDED TOWN MEETINGS, AND HAS COME OUT, AND SPOKE ON THE RECORD, AND UNDERSTANDS THE ISSUES THAT YOU ALL ARE MAKING.

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE OF SERVING ON AN ADVISORY BOARD, AND SERVING ON COUNCIL.

ADVISORY BOARDS DO NOT MAKE POLICY, THEY MAKE ADVISORY DECISIONS THAT COME TO YOU ALL.

SOMEONE WHO SITS ON COUNCIL MAKES POLICY DECISIONS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHOEVER SITS UP THERE UNDERSTANDS AT LEAST THE ROLE THAT THEY WILL BE SERVING HERE.

ALSO, SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER, AS I HAVE.

I WAS RAISED HERE, I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, I RESPECT WHAT OUR COUNCILOR MAKE, FIGHTS FOR THE RESIDENTS OUR TOWN.

THERE ARE SOME OTHERS ON THE BOARD THAT, EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES FACING OUR TOWN RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW, AND I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT THERE'S CERTAIN LITTLE TOPICS WHERE YOU ACTUALLY GET THE TRUE LOCALS TO COME OUT AND TO FIGHT FOR WHAT'S JUPITER.

[02:10:03]

BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS THAT COME LIKE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS, COME OUT AND TRY FIGHT TO PROTECT THAT.

THEY ARE THE REASON JUPITER KEEPS GROWING. PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE.

THERE'S A RIGHT WAY AND THERE'S A WRONG WAY TO PROTECT THE GROWTH AND THE TOWN OF JUPITER, AND I URGE YOU THAT WHOEVER YOU PICK, FIGHTS TO PROTECT JUPITER THE RIGHT WAY, TO ALLOW FOR GROWTH AND A SUSTAINABLE AND SMART WAY, AND NOT AN IRRATIONAL OUT-OF-CONTROL WAY.

JUPITER TURNS 100 YEARS OLD, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IN JUST LESS THAN TWO YEARS, AND CELEBRATING, AND HONORING THE 100 YEAR HISTORY OF THIS TOWN, I THINK SHOULD BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THAT PERSON THAT SITS IN THAT SEAT AS WELL, AS WELL AS ALL OF YOU.

THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY TO BE PROUD OF, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY THAT WE'RE STILL GOING TO MAKE MOVING FORWARD.

CONGRATULATIONS ON MAKING THAT DECISION HOPEFULLY TONIGHT ON FILLING THAT SEAT, AND WHOEVER FILLS THAT SEAT, I WILL SUPPORT THAT DECISION, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU ALL IN EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER. THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS IT.

>> THAT WAS IT? RETURNING TO COUNCIL, I GUESS WE HAD ONE SUGGESTION ON THE DIAS HERE TO CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING OR ALTERNATIVELY, TO REACH A DECISION TONIGHT AND MOVE FORTH.

>> IF CONTINUING TO THE NEXT MEETING BROUGHT US TO A UNANIMOUS DECISION, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

BUT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON TOP THREE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHERS OR WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE FOLKS THAT WE BROUGHT UP? COUNCIL MAYOR.

>> IT'S HARD BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A POST ANYBODY BECAUSE THE BIGGEST SELECTED YOU GOT TO SIT UP HERE AND WORK WITH THEM AND IT SUCKS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S WHY WE WANT YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION.

[LAUGHTER]

>> MY BIGGEST THING IS LIKE I SAID IT'S, AS SOMEONE WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE.

I TRULY THINK WE NEED ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE.

IT MEANS A LOT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN BORN AND RAISED HERE.

YOU SEE THAT A LOT IN THE ELECTIONS WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT AND LIKE, WHERE ARE THEY FROM? IF YOU TELL THEM THEY WERE BORN AND RAISED JUPITER LOCAL, IT REALLY MEANS SOMETHING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I ALWAYS TAKE THAT TO HEART AND THAT'S TO ME, IT'S A DISTRICT ONE PERSON WHO NOT ONLY THAT IS THEY LIVE IN ONE OF THE CHARTER NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT IS SO RARE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOMEONE WHO SITS ON COUNCIL THAT LIVES IN OUR CHARTER NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT REALLY BRINGS A MUCH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO THIS COUNCIL.

WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, WE HAD THAT HUGE FLOODING EVENT RIGHT AFTER I GOT ELECTED BACK IN MAY OF 2020, AND THE RESIDENTS OF PLAIN GARDENS NORTH CAME TO ME BECAUSE I WAS THE NEWEST ONE ON COUNCIL.

BUT LIKE, WELL, WHAT DO WE DO, OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD'S FLOODED? I WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS GOING ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT I WAS ABLE TO GO THERE AND VISIT WITH THEM, AND THEY WERE SO PLEASED, AND HAVING SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THAT AREA TO REALLY BRING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO THE COUNCIL I FEEL IS VERY MUCH NEEDED.

SHE'S BEEN TO PROBABLY MORE MEETINGS THAT I'VE EVER BEEN TO.

BUT SHE'S BEEN COMING HERE FOR A LONG TIME, SHE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, SO THAT'S JUST SOMEONE I TRULY FEEL IN MY HEART THAT NEEDS TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF JUPITER.

LIKE I SAID, I UNDERSTAND, ALL QUALIFIED CANDIDATES, I MEAN EVERYBODY THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THEM, AND I HOPE THEY KNOW THAT WHICHEVER WAY WE GO WITH WHAT WE SELECT THIS, BUT MY NUMBER 1 PICK IS GOING TO BE TERRY.

>> WE'RE STICKING TO IT. IT'S LIKE WE'RE DOWN TO TWO PEOPLE.

MAYOR WHAT WAS YOUR PREFERENCE ON THE TWO?

>> I NAMED THE TWO THAT I HAD AT THE TOP OF MY LIST I LIKE TO HEAR FROM HER.

HEAR WHAT YOU AND COUNSELOR SAMSTRON MIGHT.

>> I THINK WE'RE HEARING THAT ROOTS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I SEE AFFECTION FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND I SEE ROOTS AND FRANK FORD WHO THEY'RE THREE HERE THAT HAVE [OVERLAPPING].

SOME APPRECIATION FOR HIM, 38 YEARS.

>> IT'S A LONG TIME.

>> HE'S A BUSINESS OWNER WHO LIVES ON THE WATER, HE BOATS.

THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION IN ALL THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ON PRESERVATION AND MARINE ACTIVITIES.

[02:15:01]

HIS MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY HAVE LIVED IN FLORIDA SINCE 1843 WHEN FLORIDA WAS STILL A SPANISH TERRITORY.

HER GRANDFATHER WOULD TRADE WITH NOBLE SEMINOLE INDIANS IN WHAT IS NOW WINTER HAVEN, VERY DEEP ROOTED.

I'VE WORKED WITH THEM, I KNOW JUST THE STRONG, CALM APPROACH TO EVERYTHING THAT HE WORKS WITH.

>> HE HAS 110 MASTERS CAPTAIN'S LICENSE ALSO.

I'M IMPRESSED WITH THAT. I AGREE.

EITHER ONE, BUT I THINK MAYBE THE LENGTH OF TIME OF BEING A RESIDENT IN JUPITER, THEY WOULD PUT HIM OVER THE TOP FOR ME.

HE'S TOTALLY QUALIFIED, HE HAS EXPERIENCE WITH THE TOWN AND P&Z, AND WE'LL AGREE A LOT OF ISSUES COMING UP, SO I'LL BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT.

I GUESS WE SHOULD MAKE A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPOINT, FRANK FORD?

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION ON A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> OPPOSED?

>> NO.

>> MOTION CARRIES 3-1 WITH COUNCILOR MAY DISSENTING.

>> I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CHERYL SENARIO THE OTHER DAY AND SHE REALLY LIKES FRANK AND I CAN SPEAK WITH HIM NOW BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE COUNCIL, SIR.

>> THERE'S NOTHING AGAINST FRANK.

[OVERLAPPING] I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH HIM.

>> I KNOW.

>> WE ALL KNOW.

>> YES.

[16. Property Owner’s Unilateral proposal to amend the Development Agreement between the Town and Crossroads 6106 LLC as successor in interest to Developer Diversified Realty (DDR) Jupiter Falls LLC also referred to as Santé Circle.]

>> MOVING ON TO ROUND-TABLE. ITEM NUMBER 16.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

FOR THE RECORD, GARY WATSON WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.

YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT A ROUNDTABLE.

THAT'S TO A REQUEST BY THE OWNER TO AMEND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OF WHICH THE TOWN COUNCIL IS THE OTHER PARTY TO THAT AGREEMENT.

IT IS THE SANTE CIRCLE PROJECT, FORMERLY KNOWN AS DDR.

THE OWNER HAS SUBMITTED THE DESIRED AGREEMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER OPENING THAT AGREEMENT.

TONIGHT IS NOT THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT TO THAT AGREEMENT IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT OPENING IT UP POTENTIALLY FOR SOME DESIRED AMENDMENTS THAT THE OWNER HAS.

IN ORDER TO ASSIST YOU IN THAT DECISION-MAKING, WE PROVIDED A BRIEF HISTORY ON THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AS WELL AS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY THROUGH ALL THE ATTACHMENTS.

THE CURRENT REQUEST OF THE OWNER IS TO AMEND THAT AGREEMENT TO ADD THE USE OF 520 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 104 OF THOSE BEING WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR YOU ALL TO DELIBERATE TONIGHT, POTENTIALLY OPENING THAT AGREEMENT.

IF YOU DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR INFORMATION YOU WANT STAFF TO BRING BACK, PLEASE ARTICULATE THOSE.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU.

IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO PURSUE AN AMENDMENT TONIGHT THAN WE MOVE NO FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM.

I'LL STEP BACK NOW AND LET YOU ALL DISCUSS, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> TURNING TO COUNSEL FOR DISCUSSION, COMMENTS.

>> TO ME, THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN FLOATING OUT THERE AND GONE THROUGH SO MANY DIFFERENT CHANGES AND PROPOSALS AND NOTHING FORMAL BUT WE'VE MET AND WE'VE DISCUSSED TO OPEN UP THE AGREEMENT FOR WHICH CAME OUT OF THE BIRD HARRIS CASE FROM THE MAGISTRATE I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, I'M NOT THERE.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> I THINK THAT THIA WAS A NICE PACKAGE THAT STAFF GAVE US TO WALK THE HISTORY ON THIS PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY EFFECTIVELY HAD LAND USE AND ZONING THAT WAS INTENDED NOW FOR TWO DECADES FOR WORKPLACE.

WE AMENDED IT TO EXPAND THAT TO EMPHASIZE IN BECAUSE IT INITIALLY WAS AN RD LEANING TO EXPAND THAT TO INCLUDE JUST GENERAL WORKPLACE.

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FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD IN THEIR FINGERTIPS BUT FELL APART WITH THE GLOBAL ECONOMY.

A FEW YEARS BACK THEY HAD A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS THAT WAS GOING TO COME ONTO SITE, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT, WHICH WAS WHY WE HAD AMENDED THE DEFINITION FOR THAT TO INCLUDE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.

I DO THINK WORKPLACE IS AN IMPORTANT ATTRIBUTE, REMAINS SO FOR ME.

WE NEED THAT IN JUPITER AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE MARKUP THAT WAS SUGGESTED HERE BY ADDING IN THE RESIDENTS, THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS.

BASICALLY, THERE'S ALMOST ABSOLUTELY NO INTENDED USE BY RIGHTS LEFT THAT IS BEING DONE AS BEING PROPOSED.

EVERYTHING WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND SO THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME.

I DON'T THINK THAT MORE RESIDENTS IN THIS LOCATION IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO BASED ON AT LEAST WHAT MY LONG-TERM EXPECTATION WAS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

WITH THAT, I'LL GO DOWN THE LINE HERE.

>> I DID GET A NUMBER OF EMAILS ON THIS AND THIS PROPERTY.

WHEN I RAN, I RAN WITH ISLAND WAY SOUTH IN MIND AND JUST TRAFFIC MITIGATION AND I KNOW THAT TRAFFIC IN THAT QUADRANT OF JUPITER HAS ALWAYS BEEN A REALLY DIFFICULT CHALLENGE.

I ALSO LOOK AT OUR MIX OF USES.

I REMEMBER TALKING TO STAFF RECENTLY AND I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT WE WERE 80, 20 IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, I KNOW PALM BEACH GARDENS IS MORE 50,50, BUT WE REALLY DO HAVE A PREDOMINANCE OF RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S EVEN MORE STRIKING WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMERCIAL VERSUS NON-COMMERCIAL USES.

I ALSO WORRY ABOUT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.

I KNOW WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS AND WE LOOKED AT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY REPORTS, JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL IS COMPLETELY OVERCROWDED.

THESE ARE BIG PROBLEMS. THEY ARE COMPLICATED.

THEY REQUIRE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES, BE IT THE COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE TOWN FOR ROADS, FOR CONCURRENCY CAPACITY, THE STATE, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

WHAT I'VE DONE IS WE'VE BEEN PULLED IN.

I'M SURE A FEW OF US HAVE BEEN INVITED TO LOOK AT THE PROJECTS AS THEY GO THROUGH AND ARE PROPOSED A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN TRIED.

THERE'S A LONG HISTORY HERE THAT I THINK SOME OF YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO.

I REALLY AM FRESH EYES IN SOME WAYS ON THESE PARCELS IN PARTICULAR.

I DON'T THINK RESIDENTIAL IS A GOOD FIT HERE, SO I DO THINK IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE PARTNERS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ON THIS TO TRY TO FIND A RESOLUTION.

I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A VISION I WATCHED 2019, THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND JUST THAT TALK OF WORKFORCE.

I'VE HEARD THE FORMER MAYOR TALK ABOUT AS WELL, JUST HAVING MAYBE A HEADQUARTERS COMING THERE ONE DAY.

THAT WAS ALWAYS THE VISION IS MY UNDERSTANDING JUST FROM WATCHING COUNCIL MEETINGS.

FOR ME RIGHT NOW, IT'S SIMPLE THAT SAID WE'RE IN A VERY DYNAMIC SITUATION.

OUR ENVIRONMENT IS CHANGING SO QUICKLY.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME THERE.

I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE OPEN MINDS, BUT WE DO WANT IT TO BE MORE WORKFORCE-RELATED.

>> JUST THE LITANY OF EMAILS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SPEAKING AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT.

IT WOULD BE PRETTY DUMB TO GO AGAINST THAT.

I DEFINITELY DON'T SUPPORT THAT JUST BASED ON THE PUBLIC REACHING OUT TO US.

I DON'T SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR 520 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY.

>> SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS TO A DEGREE THAT THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH ATTENTION ON THIS PROPERTY.

I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER, THAT THIS WAS INITIALLY DESIGNATED TO BE A BIOSCIENCE AREA

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AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY A COUPLE MONTHS BACK TO SEE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT OBLIGATION TO THE STATE STILL MUST EXIST.

I ATTENDED THE RARE BIOSCIENCE OVERLAY COMMITTEE MEETING A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK, AND THE COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME ASKED THE REPRESENTATIVE WHO IS A STATE OF FLORIDA APPOINTEE TO GO BACK TO THE STATE AND LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE FEEL STILL SOME AMOUNT OF COMPELLED OBLIGATION THERE.

EXPECT WE'LL HEAR SOMETHING BACK.

THAT SAID FOR ME, I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, IF YOU WILL, KIND OF USES BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT INGREDIENT WITHIN THE TOWN.

I JUST WANTED TO IN CLOSING ON THIS SAYING NO TO THE HOUSING, I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS GENERALLY, ABOUT THE BIOSCIENCE OBLIGATION IN WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THAT STILL IS GOING FORTH OBLIGATION OR NOT.

I THINK THE SENSE IS IT MAY NOT BE.

BUT NONETHELESS, I THINK IT SHOULD BE WORKPLACE.

I'M GOING TO JUST CIRCLE BACK TO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING OTHER THAN NO HOUSING.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU. IT SHOULD BE WORKPLACE BECAUSE WE'RE BASED ON VALUES.

WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE IF WE CAN GET A LARGER HEADQUARTER TYPE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY HAVE STAGGERED TRAFFIC FLOWS, WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE AREN'T COMING, GOING AT THE NORMAL RUSH HOURS.

THAT'S MY VISION OF ANYTHING COMMERCIAL IN JUPITER WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED OR DEVELOPED, THAT IT BALANCES THROUGH THE WHOLE TRAFFIC CYCLE DURING DAY AND NIGHT.

I DON'T THINK RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN CERTAINLY WITH SOUTH ISLAND WAY AND WHEN THAT PROPERTY DOES EVENTUALLY GET DEVELOPED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE JUST TOO MUCH CHAOS.

AGAIN, THEY'LL BE TOO MANY DAILY TRIPS ADDED TO THE NORMAL RUSH HOUR CYCLE, I BELIEVE SO.

I DON'T KNOW IF PRESIDENTS LISTENING ARE IN TUNE TO ALL THE DAILY TRIPS AND TIMES AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH HERE, BUT THAT JUST GIVES ME MAKES ME CAUTIOUS.

>> IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?

>> YES. [OVERLAPPING]

>> FIRST WE HAVE ROMAIN TRUSSELO.

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS REMY TORSIELLO, I RESIDE AT 151 RUDDER CAY WAY AND I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN BORN AND RAISED IN THIS WONDERFUL TOWN.

IN 2018, MY HUSBAND AND I CAME BACK DOWN AND MOVE TO THE COMMUNITY OF RIALTO SO THAT WE CAN RAISE OUR TWO BOYS IN THE BEAUTIFUL PLACE I GREW UP IN.

THERE HAVE BEEN MANY WONDERFUL IMPROVEMENTS AND MUCH POSITIVE GROWTH IN JUPITER OVER MY LIFETIME.

I DON'T BLAME OUR NEW RESIDENTS FOR COMING HERE, IT'S PARADISE.

IT IS NOT AN EASY TASK FOR YOU, AS TOWN COUNCILORS TO BALANCE OUR GROWING POPULATION AND PRESERVE JUPITER'S UNIQUENESS AND SMALL TOWN FEEL.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING ANALYSIS REGARDING AMENDING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND CROSSROADS.

CROSSROADS PURCHASED THE SUN TASTES CIRCLE PROPERTY, KNOWING THAT RESIDENTIAL UNITS WERE NOT PERMITTED USES FOR THE LAND.

THE LIVE LOCAL ACT DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS SITUATION SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS ADOPTED UNDER THE FLORIDA LOCAL GOVERNMENT DEVELOPER AGREEMENT ACT.

I CAN SKIP THAT PART BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS SAID.

RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE WOULD CREATE A MYRIAD OF ISSUES.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THE ISLAND WAY INDIANTOWN ROAD INTERSECTION IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST IN THE AREA, 520 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD CREATE THOUSANDS MORE TRIPS PER DAY.

AS COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM SAID, OUR LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH OVERCROWDING AND 520 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD JUST COMPLETELY OVERWHELM THEM.

MY CHILDREN GO TO LIMESTONE CREEK.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEND MY KIDS AT JUPITER HIGH IF WE STILL ARE THIS OVERCROWDED THERE.

WHILE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT CROSSROADS HAS A RIGHT TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY, I FEEL THAT 520 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BRING MORE HARM THAN GOOD TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE BETTER USES FOR THE LAND, INCLUDING POTENTIALLY FULFILLING ONE OF THE TOWN'S STRATEGIC GOALS BY CONSIDERING AN INDOOR RECREATION SPACE,

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WHICH BRINGS VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY WITH A LOWER PEAK TIME TRAFFIC IMPACT.

AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF JUPITER, I ASK THAT YOU DO NOT CONSIDER A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT WITH CROSSROADS.

THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]

>> JOSH SIMON. AFTER JOSH SIMON IS GOING TO BE JOSHUA SMITH.

>> HELLO JOSH SIMON, I WORK FOR THE DEVELOPER.

I'VE BEEN IN JUPITER SINCE 2007 AND WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN JUPITER, A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT PROJECTS.

WE BOUGHT DOWNTON ABBEY CORE WHEN IT WAS VACANT AND THEY WERE CRYING PROBLEMS AND WE TURNED IT INTO A THRIVING CENTER.

WE BOUGHT THE POWER SYSTEM, WE BOUGHT 185,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN INDIANTOWN ROAD RENOVATED IT.

IT WAS AN ANTIQUATED INDUSTRIAL BUILDING TURNED IT INTO A HIGH-TECH R&D FACILITY.

WE BOUGHT THE ALEXANDRIA BUILDING WHEN THEY COULDN'T BRING BIOTECH TENANTS IN THERE AND NOW IT'S A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL BUILDING WITH BIOTECH TENANTS.

WE'RE INVOLVED IN BARCELONA APARTMENTS, IN BUILDING COVERS AND BUILDING SOUTH FLORIDA MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH IS THE LARGEST MALL TIME MEDICINE PRACTICE IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

WE'VE MADE SEVERAL APPLICATIONS PRIOR TO THIS ONE TO THE TOWN THAT HAD A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.

WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN 2016.

THIS IS OUR THIRD PUD SUBMITTAL.

THE PREVIOUS SUBMITTALS THAT HAD JOBS ALL OVER THE PLACE, WE COULDN'T GET IN FRONT OF YOU.

WE GOT TURNED DOWN BECAUSE OF AN INFINITE NUMBER OF REASONS.

TO COME UP HERE NOW AND HERE WE WANT JOBS IS AGAINST WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FOR THE LAST, FOR 23, NOW, BOUGHT IT IN 16 FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

THAT BEING SAID, MY PITCH NOW IN APARTMENTS IS WE BUILT BARCELONA APARTMENTS IN 2016.

WE DELIVERED 75 WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS TO THE TOWN AT THAT TIME.

SINCE THEN, THERE'S BEEN SIX ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.

WE BUILT BARCELONA APARTMENTS IN 2016.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANOTHER APARTMENT COMMUNITY BUILT OF ANY SCALE SINCE THEN.

RENTS AND JUPITER AT THAT COMMUNITY ARE UP 70% SINCE 2016 [NOISE].

ONE BIG REASON RENTS ARE UP AND HOUSING SO UNAFFORDABLE AND JUPITER IS BECAUSE PROJECTS DON'T EVEN GET CONSIDERED.

WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING FOR AN APPROVAL.

WE DIDN'T ASK TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

WE SUBMITTED A PUD REQUEST.

THE TOWN SAID THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT YOUR PUD REQUEST, WE DON'T CARE WHAT THE STATE SAYS IS IF YOU SUBMIT THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT, BUT WE DIDN'T ASK FOR IT TO BE MODIFIED, IT WAS A REQUEST IT WAS MANDATED BY THE TOWN STAFF BY TOM BARED THAT WE HAD TO MAKE THAT CHANGE IN ORDER FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW THE PUD.

WHEN HOUSING PRICES GO UP 70% AND THERE'S NOT [NOISE] AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING, TEACHERS CAN'T LIVE HERE, POLICE CAN'T LIVE HERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HIRE FIREMEN TO LIVE HERE WHEN YOU BUILD A FIRE DEPARTMENT.

OUR CHILDREN AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME HOME FROM COLLEGE AND LIVE HERE.

I KNOW WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT SENATE BILL 102.

WE WERE TRYING TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH THERE.

WE SUBMITTED, AS WE HAVE ON ALL THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN.

WE ARE PROVIDING WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC BENEFIT IN CASH FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, LAND TO BUILD ISLAND WAIST SOUTH, PARK'S FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK AS A COUNCILS, I GET THAT SCHOOLS ARE CROWDED.

I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC THING BECAUSE APARTMENTS HAVE A LOT LESS TRAFFIC THAN EMPLOYMENT JOBS OR THAN OTHER OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ZONED FOR THE PROPERTY.

BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO AT LEAST CONSIDER, I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT, BUT TO BE HERE AT ONE MEETING AND SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WE DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER BRINGING THE PRICE OF HOUSING DOWN, WE DON'T CARE THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR HOUSE IN JUPITER NOW COULDN'T OTHERWISE AFFORD IT.

I DON T THINK IS VERY REASONABLE.

I'D ASKED YOU TO AT LEAST TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND LET STAFF CONSIDER WHAT COULD BE POSSIBLE AS FAR AS EMPLOYMENT GOES.

OUR PUD I'M HOPING YOU GUYS LOOK

[02:35:03]

BEYOND JUST THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUESTS CHANGED SINCE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM US.

CONSOLE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER JOBS AND THE PROPERTY WITH HOSPITAL AND MEDICAL OFFICE.

THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]

>> JOSHUA SMITH.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DR. JOSHUA SMITH.

I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE MEDICAL GROUP OF SOUTH FLORIDA WITH THE CORPORATE OFFICE BEING A MILITARY TRAIL JUST ACROSS FROM THE POST OFFICE.

THAT IS THE LARGEST MEDICAL MULTI-SPECIALTY COMPANY IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

WE, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD 123 EMPLOYEES WHO WORKED THERE, 90% OF THEM COULD NOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN JUPITER.

AS A COUNSEL, YOU GUYS STAND UP HERE AND YOU SAY YOU WANT TO BRING THE EMPLOYERS, LIKE MYSELF INTO TOWN.

THE EMPLOYEES HAVE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE.

THEY CAN'T LIVE IN MARTIN COUNTY, THEY CAN'T LIVE IN PORT ST. LUCY.

YOU CAN'T BRING THEM UP HERE FOR BLANK WORTH.

JUST YOU'RE PUTTING EMPLOYERS IN A REALLY DIFFICULT POSITION.

AND LIKE MR. SIMON SAID, TO JUST OUTRIGHT SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, MOST OF THE PEOPLE, I ALSO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN FLORIDA.

YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO MOVE FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.

IF YOU WANT JOBS IN JUPITER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ALLOW FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

YOU JUST CAN'T SAY WE WANT TO KEEP IT A QUAINT LITTLE TOWN, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE CORPORATE OFFICES. THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WORK IN CORPORATE OFFICES THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN 5,6, $700 MILLION HOUSE.

I WOULD JUST ASK YOU AS A MAJOR EMPLOYER IN JUPITER, 123 STAFF MEMBERS, TO RECONSIDER THIS REQUEST AND REALLY LOOK AT IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

IT'S A SITE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE BOTH EMPLOYMENT ON IT AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL SO THAT EMPLOYEES CAN LIVE HERE.

IT'S NOT JUST A TOWN FOR RICH PEOPLE, IT'S A TOWN FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]

>> LAST WE HAVE ROSS.

I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME.

>> GOOD EVENING, TOWN COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I MET A COUNCIL MEMBER, DELANEY, AND MAYOR GRETZKY.

IN THE PAST, I HAVEN'T MET A COUNCIL MEMBER SUNDSTROM OR COUNCIL MEMBER MAY.

I LIVE AT 196 BEARING WAY IN RIALTO.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT.

I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT.

I'M ALSO AWARE OF THE HISTORY, I'VE TRACKED THIS PROPERTY.

WHEN THE DEVELOPER BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PALM BEACH POST WITH THE INTENT TO BUILD A BUSINESS PARK THAT WAS GOING TO BRING HIGH-PAYING JOBS TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO HOLD THE DEVELOPER TO THAT PROMISE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[APPLAUSE]

>> THAT WAS THE LAST ONE?

>> DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?

>> I KNOW WE HAVE A ROUNDTABLE COMING UP ON WORKFORCE HOUSING TO BE DETERMINED.

I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF PROJECTS.

I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT THE BEST FIT IS, FOR THE TOWN.

I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

I THINK I DON'T SEE THIS USE IT RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW WE'RE IN A DYNAMIC SITUATION.

A LOT OF THINGS ARE CHANGING, BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T SEE IT.

I DO THINK WE ARE OPEN-MINDED.

I DO THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD.

BUT, I'M GRATEFUL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING [NOISE], BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AS A COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THE NIGHT I GOT ELECTED.

WE HAD SOMEONE COME AND SPEAK ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WE'VE HAD OUR SYSTEM SURVEY THAT WE'RE GOING OUT OR THAT'S GOING OUT.

I JUST THINK IT HAS TO BE CAREFULLY CONSIDERED WITH ALL THESE OTHER FACTORS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FROM SCHOOLS TO EVERYTHING ELSE.

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AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU FOR THE DIALOGUE.

I THINK THAT THE POINT OF THIS ROUNDTABLE IS TO JUST HAVE SOME GOOD DISCUSSION AROUND THESE ISSUES.

I THINK WE'RE DOING JUST THAT.

>> WORKFORCE HOUSING BY DEFINITION IS A TOUGH FIT, SO WE LOOK TO THAT FOR YEARS.

AWESOME ON THE ISLAND WAY NORTH THERE.

THERE MAY ALSO GO UP AND THEN YOU GET UP TO UNINCORPORATED MARTIN COUNTY.

ON THE RIGHT, THERE'S A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN THERE'S A NEW ONE.

IT WAS CLEAR ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

I THINK THEY WENT BELLY UP AND THEN THERE'S A NEW COMPANY AND THAT'S GOING TO BE HUNDREDS OF HOMES.

THEY'RE LARGE, THEY'RE HIGH-END, BUT IT'S GOING TO PUT A LOT OF CARS ON THE ROAD, SO THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL JUST NORTH ON THE SAME ROAD.

I APPRECIATE MR. SIMON, HE'S BEEN WRESTLING WITH THIS THING FOR YEARS.

BUT THAT SIZE OF A COMMUNITY, RESIDENTIAL, IT'S JUST I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT FIT RIGHT THERE AND I DO AGREE THAT WAS THE INITIAL PROPOSAL, BUT IT WAS BASED AROUND BEING A BUSINESS PARK.

WE'LL SEE, BUT RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.

>> I THINK JUST TO EMPHASIZE, WE HAVE CERTAINLY A POPULATION THAT LIVES ALONG ALAN'S WAY THAT IS VERY MINDFUL AND INTERESTED IN WHAT HAPPENS HERE, SO THAT'S WHY I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I'M RESTATING THE WHAT THE INTENTION HAS BEEN IN MY MIND CONTINUES TO BE.

THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY TRAFFIC-CONSTRAINED AREA.

IT ALWAYS WAS VERY INVOLVED YEARS BACK, MAKING SURE IN MARTIN COUNTY, THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE BEING PUT THERE WAS LOWER DENSITY FOR THAT VERY REASON.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO A ROAD SOLUTION.

A ONE-WAY SOUTH THAT QUITE FRANKLY WOULD ENABLE THIS PROPERTY, IT'D BE MORE SHOVEL-READY.

THAT'S POSITIVE, SO I DO THINK WE HAVE IN AS A TOWN ARE CONTINUING TO TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN HERE, WHICH IS A PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT WORKPLACE.

I DON'T CONSIDER HOSPITAL WORKPLACE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE IT IN MEDICAL OFFICE BECAUSE IT ATTRACTS A LOT OF ONGOING THE PATIENTS COMING AND GOING.

WHAT HAD BEEN ENVISIONED HERE HAD TO BE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC CAPACITY WE HAVE IS MORE WORKPLACE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE VISITORS PER SAY, BUT YOU HAVE THE WORKERS COMING, DOING THE WORK AND THEN LEAVING.

I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, HENCE, THAT'S WHY I DON'T SEE A HOSPITAL AS BEING A GOOD FITNESS AREA EITHER.

JUST I KNOW THAT THERE IS SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE CONSIDERATION, BUT I'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

WHEN WE TALK WORKPLACE, UNDERSTAND THE WORKPLACE I'M TALKING ABOUT IS WE'RE RESONANCE THAT MAY LIKELY ALREADY BE ON INDIANTOWN ROAD GOING IN 1985 TO GO TO WORK, MIGHT HAVE THE OFFICE SPACE THERE.

BUT WE ARE TRAFFIC-CONSTRAINED.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE HERE AND WON'T BE AN ISSUE ON DECIDING WHAT SENSE.

I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.

>> I WANT TO SAY ALSO, I AM GRATEFUL FOR MR. SIMON I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH HIM AND GET TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECTS AND JUPITER AND JUST HAVING FRESH EYES ON THIS QUADRANT OF JUPITER.

I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE BIOSCIENCE OVERLAY.

AND IF THAT'S RELEVANT, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE'RE DOING AND LOOKING AT THAT.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO LOOK AND UNDERSTAND FROM STAFF JUST THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY USES LIVE AND SUBMITTED.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.

IT'S VERY COMPLEX, IT'S A LOT TO DIGEST.

I HAD ASKED FOR MORE TIME ON THIS ITEM.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER, SO THANKS.

>> BUT WE'VE COVERED.

[OVERLAPPING] I'M ROUNDTABLE.

>> EXACTLY.

>> WE WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HEAR [OVERLAPPING] FROM US SO THEY UNDERSTAND.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THE PROPERTY OWNER NIGHT, I RESPECT MR. SIMON, HE'S BEEN A QUALITY DEVELOPER IN THE TOWN, HAS DONE, POSITIVE PROJECTS.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS HERE HAS TO FIT.

>> GOOD.

>>WITH THAT, I GUESS THAT CONCLUDES THAT ROUNDTABLE ITEM.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO REPORT SO TIME, ATTORNEY.

[TOWN ATTORNEY]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST AS PART OF MY FIRST REPORT,

[02:45:02]

JUST A REMINDER WHEN YOU DO YOUR EX PARTE DISCLOSURES, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST SAY I MET WITH THE APPLICANT.

YOUR REQUIRED UNDER THE TOWN'S ORDINANCE TO DISCLOSE SPECIFICALLY WHO YOU MET WITH IN THE SUBJECT MATTER OF YOUR DISCUSSION WITH THEM, SO I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES SLIPS, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE QUASI-JUDICIAL CODE.

MUCH MORE POSITIVE NOTE.

I WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU THAT THE JUPITER SOCCER CASE, WHICH HAS BEEN PENDING SINCE 2019 AND WAS FILED AGAINST THE TOWN AND THE JUPITER TO CUESTA ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, ALLEGING THAT THE TWO ENTITIES MONOPOLIZED YOUTH SOCCER IN JUPITER WAS DISMISSED BY THE PLAINTIFF, MR. BEN GALINSKY AND THE BASIS OF THAT DISMISSAL WAS THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEYS HAD FILED MY LAW FIRM FILED A VERY STRONG MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT, WHICH ARE SET TO BE HEARD OCTOBER 6TH, AND WE'RE ON A TRIAL CALENDAR WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BEGIN LAST FRIDAY.

FACED WITH THAT MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT AND THE STRENGTH OF THAT MOTION, RATHER THAN PREPARE A RESPONSE TO THAT MOTION WHICH WOULD HAVE CAUSED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND POSSIBLY AN INCORRECT TRIAL, WHICH THEY WERE NOT GOING TO WIN.

THEY DISMISSED THEIR CASE.

I WANTED TO JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT, MIKE GO OR FROM MY FIRM AND TRAVIS FALLS FROM MY FIRM WHERE THE PRINCIPAL AUTHORS SO THAT THAT MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT LET YOU KNOW ALSO THAT MY GO WAS THE ATTORNEY THAT HAS BEEN ASSISTING THE TOWN MANAGER AT AMANDA BARNS WITH RESPECT TO THE CONTRACTOR.

HE WAS NOT SO THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN OUR JUPITER POLICE PENSION CASE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

IN OUR FIRM WE RECALL THE SWISS ARMY KNIFE BECAUSE HE, IN ADDITION TO BEING A KNIFE THAT FITS ALL APPROPRIATE TASKS, HE SLICES A LOT OF THINGS UP.

I WANTED TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZED HIM FOR HIS FINE WORK ONCE AGAIN, AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS LONG WITH SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF MY FIRM JUST TO VISIT WITH YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

>> MR. KUTCHER.

[TOWN MANAGER]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. BRIEFLY, WE'LL START THE PROCESS TO ON-BOARDING COUNSELOR FOR INCLUDING ANNOUNCEMENTS AND WORK WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO SCHEDULE HIM TO COME GET SWORN IN AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, WE'LL KEEP GETTING QUESTIONS REGARDING PICKLEBALL.

I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON SOME OF THE PICKLEBALL GOING ZONES.

WE KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THE PROJECTS OVER AT ACP AT ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK AND THE QUESTION COMES UP, AND WHEN IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN? I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE CONTRACT OUT FOR BID THE BIDS CLOSE A WEEK FROM FRIDAY.

HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET [NOISE] APPROPRIATE BIDS IN.

IF ALL GOES WELL, WE ANTICIPATE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN COUNCIL ON A SELECT CONTRACTOR SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER AND WE'RE PUSHING TO HAVE THE PROJECT COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2023, EARLY 2024.

THIS WILL INCLUDE FIVE LIGHTED COURTS AT ACP AND EIGHT LIGHTED COURTS AT JCP.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD JUMP ON THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF FOLKS HERE IN TOWN.

>> DID YOU SAY FIVE AND PLUS EIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. THEN I DID WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, SCOTT REYNOLDS, AND OUR ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR DON CLARK AND THE ENTIRE LEADERSHIP TEAM, A TON OF WORK GOES INTO THIS BUDGET PREP AS YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE SO REMARKABLY TRUSTWORTHY AND THEY TAKE EVERY LITTLE BIT OF IT SO SERIOUSLY.

I DO WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR WORK AND FOR THE DUE DILIGENCE AND THEN THANK THE STAFF FOR WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH THEM, SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM. THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR.

[02:50:04]

>> THANK YOU. AGREED. COUNTS FOR ME.

[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]

>> [NOISE] I HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE TOWN MANAGER.

I HAD A RESONANT REACH OUT TO ME THAT LIVES OVER IN JUPITER RIVER PARK REGARDING HIS PROPERTY AND HOW THE PROPERTY LINES THAT COME OUT TO THE ESSENTIALLY THE MIDDLE OF THE RIVER BEHIND HIS HOME, THAT HE'S THE ONLY ONES THAT OWNS A HOUSE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I GUESS THE WAY THE CODE IS WITH THE EP AND STUFF, IT'S PREVENTING HIM FROM BUILDING A DOC ACROSS HIS ENTIRE BACK PROPERTY SEAWALL, I BELIEVE IS WHAT'S GOING ON.

THERE'S PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT ARE PREVENTING HIM FROM DOING SO.

I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK IF THE TOWN MANAGER COULD BRING SOMETHING TO US TO ESSENTIALLY MAKE THE CHANGES WITHIN THE CODE.

THEN I KNOW GARRETT HAS TO WORK WITH THE EP TO GET THOSE THINGS SITUATED BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT HAD A VERY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE FOR THIS PROPERTY OWNER AND IT'S FOR HIM TO GO THROUGH IT HIMSELF.

THAT WOULD BE A VERY LENGTHY AND EXPENSIVE PROCESS AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE BURDEN SHOULD BE ON HIM FOR THAT [NOISE] TO BE DONE.

I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO THE TOWN MANAGER TO TRY TO GET THOSE THINGS WORKED OUT AND BRINGING THAT TO US TO DO A CODE CHANGE TO ASSIST HIM AND POSSIBLY SOME OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.

>> ONE THING I'D ASK OR [NOISE] TO SUPPLEMENT THAT SHOWS ME THE CASE WHEN WE'RE MAKING AN ASK IS CAN YOU FIRST GIVE US A SUMMARY OF THE SITUATION?

>> YEAH. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BECAUSE THEN I'D ASK WHY PRELIMINARY TALK TO THEM AND SAID, OBVIOUSLY ANYTIME YOU LOOK ANYTHING YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR ANYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY AND FROM WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE CASE.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE A PRETTY I WOULDN'T SAY QUICK OR EASY FIX, BUT IT CAN BE DONE.

OF COURSE, THE EPS BE CONTACTED TOO SO WE JUST HAVE THAT GIVING YOU THAT DIRECTION OF GET THAT AND BRING IT BACK TO US TO LOOK AT SO WE CAN POTENTIALLY ASSIST IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I HATE HAVING TO BRING THIS UP BUT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES ABOUT MY EMPLOYMENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

[NOISE] I JUST WANT TO BE ON RECORD WITH THE PUBLIC THAT MY EMPLOYMENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY, I DISCUSSED IT WITH HIM AND HE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS BEFORE WE EVEN NEGOTIATED THE CONTRACT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

DO I HAVE TO ABSTAIN THINGS OF THAT NATURE? ESSENTIALLY, THEY HAD CONCLUDED THAT I DO NOT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE CLASS, AFFECTED NO PERSONAL GAIN OR LOSS TO MYSELF FOR THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON RECORD BECAUSE IT'S GETTING BROUGHT UP TONIGHT.

I THINK IT'S NOT FAIR THAT I KEEP GETTING ATTACKED ON THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. THAT'S ALL I GOT.

>> COUNSELOR SAMSTRON.

>> RIGHT NOW I JUST WANT TO SAY AS WELL, I AGREE ON THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.

IT'S HIS BIRTHDAY AFTER THE BUDGET SEASON.

WHAT A TIE? IT'S A GIFT TO BE DONE WITH IT, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG HAUL AND I KNOW THE TOLL.

I THINK WE SEE THE TOLL IT TAKES ON HIM.

[LAUGHTER] I'M WISHING HIM SOME REST, AND HAPPY NEW OR FISCAL NEW YEAR SOON ENOUGH.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I TEND NOT TO ASK FOR TOO MANY THINGS OR ASK THAT TOO MUCH BE DONE.

WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE, SOME OF OUR CHOOSING, SOME NOT OF OUR CHOOSING.

BUT I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT WE, AS A TOWN BROUGHT THE OLD TOWN HALL FORWARD FOR LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.

JUST HAPPY TO SEE THAT GO FORWARD, SO THANK YOU.

AS WELL AS THE PLAYGROUND WORK THAT'S GOING FORWARD.

THIS SOUND LIKE SMALL THINGS BUT THEY'RE NOT SMALL TO THE SMALLEST OF US [LAUGHTER] AND TO THEIR PARENTS, SO THANKS.

>> GREAT.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING IN JUPITER, SO I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT.

EVERY YEAR, SCOTT AND THE CREW THANK YOU.

GREAT JOB. IS IT REALLY HIS BIRTHDAY?

>> NO.

>> IT'S NOT. WHEN IS IT? [LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT IT'S SURELY AFTER.

>> I CAN'T PUBLICLY DISCLOSE. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOU CAN'T PUBLICLY DISCLOSE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> BUT IT'S A LONG SLOG AND THEY DO A TERRIFIC JOB AND THEY MAKE EVERYTHING PALATABLE AND READABLE FOR US BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF MATERIAL, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, SO THAT'S IT.

>> TWO ITEMS, JUST QUICK.

NUMBER 1, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL, I THINK, ALONG WITH ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT WHAT SEEMED LIKE

[02:55:01]

AN EXTREMELY MESSY SITUATION IN APA-COLA.

WE HAVE WORK UNITS AND INHERENTLY ACCORDING TO THE EMAIL, UNFAIR BURDENS ON THOSE UNITS WITH REGARD TO JUST A NUMBER OF THINGS.

IT WAS ONE OF THOSE COMPLICATED EMAILS THAT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEND THE HOUR TO UNDERSTAND IT.

BUT I'M GOING TO ASK THAT I FOLD IT.

I'M GOING TO FOLD IT ON BECAUSE I THINK THAT ROGER COULD LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT AND COULD GET BACK WITH SUCH ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT COUNCILOR MAY WAS ASKING ABOUT THIS ONE.

WHEN WE GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK IT'S LEGITIMATE TO ASK IS THERE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE OR MAYBE WE'RE NOT GETTING IT OR WHATEVER, SO I'LL PASS IT ON.

I'M NOT ASKING ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT FOR STARTERS.

BUT TO EXPLAIN IS THERE AN ISSUE THAT WE COULD HELP WITH IF YOU WILL? I WOULD SUSPECT THIS ISSUE AS WELL KNOWN BY STAFF, BUT IT'S NOT BY US ON COUNCIL OR NOT ME.

THEN JUST LASTLY, AND I'M NOT CASTING ANY ASPERSIONS HERE.

COUNCILOR MAY, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE AN OPINION LETTER.

I THINK IT'S SO IRONIC THAT COUNCILOR VICE MAYOR, RECUSES HIMSELF AND GETS UP AND LEAVES BECAUSE HIS WIFE, WHO'S A MEMBER OF A SIMILARLY LARGE POPULATION, WORKS FOR THE MEDICAL CENTER.

THERE HAS BEEN INCONSISTENCIES IN INTERPRETATIONS ABOUT THAT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT JUST TO ME, THAT'S INCREDIBLE IRONY.

BUT WITH THAT, THAT WAS IT.

THE TIME IS NOW 9:56 AND WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.