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>> JUST WITH THE SELECTED DATE.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
[3. MINUTES]
>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
>> WITH THE ACCEPTANCE. YOU MEANT?
>> YES. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CORRECTION. WHO HAS A SECOND?
>> AYE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE COME TO THIS.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED, JOHN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS AT THE END OR IF WE WANT TO DO THIS NOW, BUT COMMISSIONER KEENAN HAD A QUESTION THAT HE WANTED TO ASK.
IT'S JUST LIKE A HOUSEKEEPING THING.
>> MY REQUEST IS THAT IF EITHER AT THE BEGINNING OR THE END OF EACH MEETING, WE COULD RECEIVE A REPORT FROM YOU AS TO WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH RESPECT TO ISSUES OR SUBMISSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO OUR BOARD BEFORE IT WENT INTO THIS TO THE COUNCIL.
NO, IT WAS A DISPOSITION REPORT.
[4. CITIZEN COMMENT]
>> THEN WE COME TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING WHERE WE GIVE CITIZENS TO SPEAK UP TO THREE MINUTES ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS TONIGHT?
>>DONE. NOW WE ARE ONTO NEW BUSINESS.
WE HAVE REACHED UP IS THE ROTTERDAM STADIUM AND RENOVATIONS.
[5.B.1. Roger Dean Chevrolet Stadium Renovations]
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES, COMMISSIONER GELIN?>> YES. I SPOKE WITH MR. SACKLER THIS AFTERNOON REGARDING ALL MATTERS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
>> I'VE BEEN TO THE STADIUM MANY TIMES, BUT NO CONVERSATIONS.
>> BEEN TO THE SAME MEETING TIMES BUT NO CONVERSATIONS OF THIS MATTER.
>> THEN TO THE STADIUM MANY TIMES, BUT NO DISCUSSION.
I HAVE NO DISCLOSURES FOR THIS PART OF THE MEETING.
MR. BARRETT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE HONORS OF SWEARING.
>> ANYBODY CAN HAVE TESTIMONY AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL READ SWORN IN.
JUST SWEAR TO TESTIMONY ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> WHO'S PRESENTING? ARE YOU, GEORGE?
>> GREAT. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM MR. JIM TO FROM, I ALWAYS FORGET HOW TO SAY THE NEW THING.
>> WE CHANGED IT. SO YOU DIDN'T THINK WE WERE A LAW FIRM, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE'RE A LAW FIRM.
>> I HAD JUST GOTTEN DOWN, GENTEEL.
>> ANYWAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH MR. KIRK BAUER FROM FAWLEY BRYANT ARCHITECTS, WHO IS THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT.
WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT ROTTERDAM STADIUM ON THEIR RENOVATION PLANS FOR THE ENTIRE COMPLEX.
WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THAT VERY QUICKLY FOR YOU, AND THEN I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AT THE END THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
I'M GOING TO HAVE KIRK COME UP AND ACTUALLY GO THROUGH ALL OF THE DESIGN STUFF AND WE HAVE A FLY THROUGH IF WE NEED TO GO ANYWHERE FOR YOU TO SEE ANYTHING.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
WE ALL KNOW WHERE THE SITE LOCATION, I'M SO GLAD AND MIKE BAUER IS HERE FROM ROTTERDAM STADIUM, THE MANAGER.
HE'S SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES.
I'M SURE HE'S VERY GLAD OF THAT AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE GOING THERE.
IT IS AN ICON FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW WHERE THE LOCATION IS.
YOU SEE CENTRAL BOULEVARD AND THE AREA THAT YOU SEE IN THE MAP AREA.
THE STADIUM WAS ACTUALLY BUILT IN 1997.
IT WAS PART OF THE ABACOA DEVELOPMENT.
IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE STIMULUS OF THE THE ABACOA DRI THAT WAS BEING DONE.
IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TEAMS, AT THIS POINT IS THE CARDINALS AND THE MARLINS.
THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND PALM BEACH COUNTY, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE ATTRACTION HERE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, JUST LIKE THE OTHER STADIUM THAT'S OUT IN WEST PALM BEACH.
THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL MINOR AMENDMENTS AND THOSE HAVE BEEN
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DONE IN REGARDS TO SEEDING SOME RENOVATIONS INSIDE THE STADIUM, IN THE OFFICES AND SOME OF THE FAN ROOMS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT THE RENOVATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING HERE.
THIS IS THE FIRST MAJOR RENOVATION TO THE OVERALL COMPLEX THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING.
WE HAVE GONE TO THE ABACOA POA AND HAD A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR THE DOCUMENTS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT, THE DESIGN AND THE ADDITIONS TO THE STADIUM.
IT'S UNDER THE MIXED USE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. FUTURE LAND USE.
IT'S ZONING DESTINATION IS MIXED USE RECREATION SUB-DISTRICT IN ABACOA.
DISCOURSE, THE ROTTERDAM STADIUMS, THE EXISTING USE AND IT'S OUR SPRING TRAINING FACILITY AND THEY HAVE OTHER EVENTS THERE THAT ARE COMMUNITY ORIENTED AS WELL AS OTHER SPORTS ACTIVITIES DURING THE YEAR.
THE SCHEDULED IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO CONSIST OF STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS IN PUBLIC PLACES, WHICH IS A COMPONENT IN THE PLAZA AREA NEAR THE THIRD BASELINE.
THAT'S MAIN STREET IN AVENUE A.
THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING AREA.
THERE'S A MAINTENANCE STORAGE BUILDING AREA THAT'S BEING REDONE.
WE HAVE NEW CLUBHOUSES, THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES FOR BOTH THE MARLINS AND THE CARDINALS WILL BE TAKEN DOWN AND BRAND NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART CLUBHOUSE WILL BE PUT UP, AS WELL AS THEIR NEW BATTING TUNNEL STRUCTURES THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELDS NOW, THOSE WILL BE RENOVATED AS WELL.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME MORE EXCITING PICTURES THAN OUR SITE PLAN IN THIS ONE.
BUT YOU CAN GET A PICTURE OF A PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S GOING ON.
WHERE THE STADIUM IS ON UNIVERSITY AND A STREET.
I'M GOING TO GO OVER VERY QUICKLY, THE SCOPE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
CLUBHOUSE 1 IS BEING INCREASED BY 44,000 SQUARE FEET AND SOME CHANGE.
CLUBHOUSE 2 IS BEING INCREASED 35,782 SQUARE FEET.
THE BATTING TUNNEL BUILDINGS WILL BE INCREASED BY ABOUT 17,000 PLUS SQUARE, FEET AND THAT IS FOR BOTH TEAMS AND THEIR STATE OF THE ART FOR TRAINING PURPOSES AND THAT THE OBSERVATION TOWERS ARE REMAINING THE SAME.
THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING IS BEING INCREASED TO HELP WITH THE MAINTENANCE ON THE STADIUM.
THEY HAVE A STORAGE BUILDING THAT IS THERE WILL NOT CHANGE AND THE STADIUM SEATS IS BEING REDUCED.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER.
WE ARE REDUCING THE SEATS BY 437 SEATS.
WE'RE ACTUALLY LESSENING THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC ISSUES AND PARKING, AND WE STILL HAVE AMPLE PARKING FOR THE PROJECT.
AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO ASK KIRK BAUER AND COME UP AND GO THROUGH HIS SLIDES AND THEN I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AT THE END AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU.
>> THANKS GEORGE. AS GEORGE SAID EARLIER, THIS IS THE MORE PRETTY PICTURE OF THE OVERALL SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'RE DOING OUT AT ROTTERDAM.
WITHIN THIS PACKAGE THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICKLY.
THE YELLOW DOTS ARE RENDERINGS THAT ARE TAKEN FROM WITHIN THE STADIUM PROPER, SO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, ESSENTIALLY THERE.
THE HIGH-LEVEL STADIUM COMPONENTS ARE TO GEORGE'S POINT.
IN THE THIRD BASE SIDE, WE'RE TAKING OUT JUST THE BARE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS.
WE'RE PULLING THOSE OUT. THOSE HAVE A HIGHER SEATING AND DENSITY COUNT, AND WE'RE PUTTING IN A HIGHER-END FAN EXPERIENCE IN THAT AREA.
IT'S REDUCING THE SEAT COUNTS.
IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR THE FANS AT THE STADIUM, YOU WILL HAVE ACTUALLY A COUNTERTOP IN FRONT OF YOU TO SET YOUR PEANUTS AND YOUR BEVERAGE.
THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE CREATING A THIRD BASE BAR AREA THAT ACTUALLY; ITS ORIGINAL CONCEPTION WAS TALKING ABOUT A MILLENNIAL AREA, BUT IT'S REALLY GOING TO HAVE THOSE LARGER OPEN SPACES WITH COMMUNAL TABLES FOR PEOPLE TO MINGLE, MIX, NETWORK.
A LOT OF CASES THERE'S NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE WATCHING THE BASEBALL GAME EVERY MINUTE AND THEY WANT A SPOT TO BE ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT ACTIVITY, HAVE A BEVERAGE AND TALK TO PEOPLE.
YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE RENDERINGS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS PACKAGE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON WHILE GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE WORKED WITH JOHN AND STEPHANIE AND TALKING ABOUT THE COLOR PALETTES AND HOW WE MAKE THIS STADIUM WHICH WAS BUILT ESSENTIALLY BEFORE THE TRUE ABACUS PROPER.
THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE PATTERN BOOKS HAVE EVOLVED SINCE THEN.
AS YOU GUYS HAVE GONE BY THERE RIGHT NOW, THE PAINT COLORS AND THINGS THAT ARE THERE DON'T REALLY MATCH EXACTLY WHAT'S IN THAT CONTEXT OF WHAT'S BUILT AROUND IT.
WE WERE PROPOSING A NEW COLOR PALETTE THAT WORKS WITHIN
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THE CURRENT CONTEXT AND THEN ALSO PAYING HOMAGE TO THAT RED SPLIT FACE BLOCK, THAT'S THE WATER TABLE THAT GOES AROUND THE ENTIRE STADIUM.WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THAT MATERIAL AND INCORPORATING THAT AS AN ACCENT PIECE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE CLUBHOUSES AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE IN THE RENDERINGS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH.
THIS RENDERING HERE IS SHOWING THE NEW TEAM STORE.
THERE'S A 3,000 SEAT TEAM STORE THAT'S BEING BUILT IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THOSE PLANS THAT GIVES THE TEAMS THE ABILITY TO SELL MORE MERCHANDISE AND UPGRADING THAT PLAZA AREA TO GEORGE'S POINT.
WHEN WE FIRST MET WITH POA, THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES WAS RECOMMENDED TO ONLY BE ON THE FIRST SIDE.
WE'VE AMENDED THE CALL TO ARTISTS TO OPEN IT UP TO BOTH PLAZAS.
THEN SOME OF THE PUBLIC AREAS THAT ARE NOT TICKETED SEATS WITHIN THE STADIUM AS WELL.
THIS AREA MAY HAVE PART OF THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES COMMISSION HERE, AS WELL AS THE THIRD BASE SIDE.
AS GEORGE SAID, WE'RE CHALLENGING ARTISTS TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BRING ART INTO THAT PLAZA AREA THAT'S THERE AND BRING A NEW BREATH OF LIFE THAT'S THERE AND IMPROVE THE AESTHETICS TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOING BY WALKING.
I KNOW THEY DO A YOGA STUDIO OVER THERE OR YOGA CLASS OVER THERE.
WE'RE HOPING TO REALLY BRING MARTIN FROM CULTURE INTO THAT AREA AS WELL.
THIS RENDERING HERE IS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE TWO NEW CLUBHOUSES, AS GEORGE SAID, EACH ONE'S ABOUT 65, 66,000 SQUARE FEET.
THESE ARE SYNTHETIC TURF AGILITY FIELDS THAT ARE CRITICAL FOR THE PLAYER DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT OF WHAT THESE TEAMS ARE DOING.
THIS IS A RENDERING OF THAT PLAZA WHERE THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES IS GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED.
ONE OF THE THINGS, THESE ARE RENDERINGS GOING AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE STADIUM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION WAS HOW DO WE MAKE THIS LOOK MORE LIKE ABBA COLA? THE GREEN ROOF DOESN'T FIT IN, THE PAINT SCHEME DOESN'T FIT IN SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORKED ON WITH THEM IS, OKAY, IN 10 YEARS FROM THAT GREEN ROOF REACHES ITS LIFE END WE REPLACE IT WITH A GALVALUME METAL ROOF THAT MATCHES THE CONTEXT.
WE INTRODUCED THE NEW PAINT COLOR THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WHEN THE STADIUM NEEDS TO BE REPAINTED SO THAT THIS IS GOING TO BLEND IN AND BE A MUCH MORE COHESIVE COMPONENT OF THIS COMMUNITY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TEAM STORE, WE'RE MATCHING THAT RED SPLIT FACE BLOCK, THAT IS THE WATER TABLE AND INCORPORATING THAT NEW COLOR.
PLENTY OF GLASS RETAIL SPACES IS GREAT TO BRING IN NATURAL LIGHT FROM UP TOP SO YOU SEE CLERESTORY WINDOWS.
THIS IS A VIEW GOING AROUND THAT TEAM STORE AGAIN GLASS TO DISPLAY THAT MERCHANDISE.
AS WE GO FURTHER, THIS RENDERING IS MORE OF SHOWING WHAT THE OUTFIELDER SEES.
WE'RE SHOWING HERE. THE MAIN THING ABOUT THIS RENDERINGS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF IT, PLAYER SAFETY WE'RE MOVING THE BALL PENS FROM THE SKINS OF THE STADIUM FIELD AND MOVING THEM TO THE OUTFIELD TO WHERE THEY'RE SECURE AND DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TAKING A BASEBALL TO THE HEAD OR GETTING INJURED.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING ACROSS THE STADIUM FIELD AND WHAT THE THIRD BASE SIDE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN THAT STADIUM SO YOU KNOW THAT VIEW.
THIS IS A FURTHER OUT VIEW OF THE NEW THIRD BASE FAN AMENITY AREAS SO THOSE VERY DENSE BLEACHERS ARE GONE.
IT'S MUCH MORE RELAXED, LAID OUT HIGHER-END FAN EXPERIENCE THAT'S THERE.
THEN AS WE GET FURTHER INTO IT, THOSE ARE THE SHUTTERS ON THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING, THAT SLIDE GOT TAKEN OUT ANY APOLOGIES.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE MET WITH POA WAS PUTTING THE BAHAMAS SHUTTERS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING TO GIVE IT MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL FIELD FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD AND GOING TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN.
THIS IS THE ENTRY IN THE PUBLIC FACING SIDE OF THE CARDINALS CLUBHOUSE.
WE'VE GOT THAT HIGH DOUBLE HEIGHT GLASS.
WE'RE PAYING HOMAGE TO THE RED SPLIT FACE BLOCKS SO WE HAVE THAT AT THE CORNER OF THE PILLARS WHERE THAT MAIN ENTRY IS AND REALLY CREATING THIS PUBLIC PLAZA AREA WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO INTEGRATE SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THE CARDINALS IN THAT PLAZA AREA THAT'S OUT THERE.
IT'S A PRE-ENGINEERING METAL BUILDING, BUT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT IT HAS THE PROPER MATERIALS ON THE SOUTH FACING SIDE THAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO SEE.
IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE A REGULAR COLD OR METAL PANEL FOR A PRE-ENGINEERING METAL BUILDING.
THIS IS THE MARLIN'S CLUBHOUSE SIMILAR DESIGN METHODS IN TERMS OF THAT DOUBLE HEIGHT GLASS AREA, THE RED STONE TO MATCH OR TO PAY HOMAGE TO THE RED SPLIT FACE BLOCK.
AGAIN WITH THE ARCHES, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WE DID WITH JOHN AND STEPHANIE AND SOME OF THE EARLIER DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE WENT INTO POA.
SAME THING, MAKING SURE THAT THE FACADE THAT'S VISIBLE FROM THE STREET HAS AN UPGRADED EXPERIENCE, IT'S NOT JUST A PRE-ENGINEERING METAL BUILDING FROM THE FACADE SIDE.
THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCING SLIDE, THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL IN THERE, ESSENTIALLY THE PLAN IS TO HAVE ALL OF THIS STUFF DONE BY 2025 AT THE END AND THERE'LL BE ABLE TO PLAY BALL.
THIS GOES INTO THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND SOME OF THE LAY DOWN NEW YARDS AND THEIR SEQUENCING PLAN.
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THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDED IN DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT AS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER GOT ON BOARD AND WE GOT MORE INFORMATION ON THEIR MEANS AND METHODS AND SEQUENCING.AGAIN, THIS BEGINS TO SHOW WHERE 10 FACILITIES ARE, WHERE THE WORKERS ARE GOING TO PARK AND HOW THE SITE IS GOING TO FUNCTION UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES ON THERE SO IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE CAN ZOOM FURTHER IN OR ADDRESS THAT AT ANOTHER DATE.
I THINK GEORGE, I'M 2 MINUTES OVER.
I THINK YOU DID GREAT. WILL FIND OUT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
ANYWAY. JUST VERY BRIEFLY, WE REVIEWED THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WITH THE ENTIRE TEAM, OUR ENGINEERS, THE TEAM OWNERS, THE COUNTY, AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM AND THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 7, WHERE THE CONDITION IS TO REQUEST THAT IN THE GRASS AREA BEYOND THE CARDINALS PRACTICE FIELDS, THAT WE PROVIDE A GRASS PARKING AREA IN THERE AND STABILIZE THE GRASS AREA.
OUR ENGINEERS ARE SOMEWHAT CONCERNED WITH THAT BECAUSE IT IS A DRAINAGE AREA, IT'S A DRAINAGE BASIN AREA.
IT WILL HOLD WATER AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR WHEN WE HAD THE DRAINAGE GO IN THERE AND THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DOING THAT SO WE WOULD ASK CONSIDERATION TO ELIMINATE THAT REQUIREMENT.
WE'VE REDUCED THE SEATS, THE PARKING IS THERE WE HAVE REDUCED SOME OF THE PARKING JUST BECAUSE OF ADDING MORE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS IN THE PRIVATE CLUB PARKING AREAS.
BUT WE STILL THINK WE HAVE AMPLE PARKING FOR ALL THE ACTIVITIES ARE GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE, ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE ACCEPTABLE.
WE WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I WANT TO RESERVE A MINUTE AND 44 SECONDS FOR REBUTTAL IF I NEED TO.
WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM MR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD, GARRETT WATSON WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE STADIUM, AS THE APPLICANT STATED, IT'S THE FIRST MAJOR RENOVATIONS SINCE IT'S ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION.
DUE TO THE NATURE OF THIS MULTI-YEAR PROJECT AND SOME CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES IN ORDER TO HELP FACILITATE IT, WE'RE FAST TRACKING THIS ITEM TO ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
AS A RESULT, YOUR RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL TOMORROW SO THEY'LL HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY TOMORROW.
AS THE APPLICANT NOTED, THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO TAKE ROUGHLY TWO YEARS.
2025 IS THE DATE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING OR TARGETING.
THEY'VE COME UP WITH THE LOGISTICS PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THAT WAY THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONS, BUT BE ABLE TO HOUSE ALL THAT DEMAND ON-SITE.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PHASES AND THROUGHOUT OPERATIONS, THAT THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE EFFECT ON TOWN CENTER ON EITHER THE RESIDENTS OR THE BUSINESSES.
THAT LOGISTICS PLAN HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PLANS PACKAGE TONIGHT.
AS PART AS THOSE ACTIVITIES DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE APPLICANT'S SEEKING APPROVAL FOR SOME TEMPORARY CLUBHOUSE FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED IN THE PRACTICE FIELDS.
WE'VE INCLUDED A CONDITION WITH AN EXHIBIT 1 THAT REQUIRES THOSE TEMPORARY FACILITIES TO BE REMOVED WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THEIR PERMANENT COUNTERPARTS BEING COD.
IF THE MARLIN'S CLUBHOUSES COD MARLIN'S TEMPORARY FACILITY HAS 90 DAYS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE.
WITH REGARDS TO LANDSCAPING, AS THE APPLICANT NOTED, THERE ARE SOME LANDSCAPE ISLANDS THAT ARE BEING EXPANDED AND THE PRIVATE PARKING AREAS THAT SERVE THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSES.
OUR NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF WENT OUT WITH THE APPLICANT'S TEAM AND IDENTIFIED A FEW TREES THAT WERE BEING DISPLACED BY THE NEW CLUBHOUSE BUILDINGS THAT WERE IN GOOD CONDITION AND SO THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO BE RELOCATED ON-SITE WHERE THEY DON'T INTERFERE WITH BASEBALL OPERATIONS OR UTILITIES, BUT WHERE THEY CAN CONTINUE TO GROW, PROVIDES SHADE, PROVIDE BUFFERING.
THOSE CONDITIONS ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT.
WITH THOSE NEW BUILDINGS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF NEW ADA SPACES THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THOSE PARKING AREAS.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
SORRY. GOOD. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS WITH ADA AND THE ADA CODES.
WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT A LETTER AND A PLAN BE PUT TOGETHER TO CERTIFY THAT THIS PROJECT MEETS ADA AS WRITTEN.
THERE'S SOME SPACES THAT THERE'S LIKELIHOOD THAT THERE'LL BE A SPACE NECESSARY TO BE DEVELOPED ON MAIN STREET ITSELF IN THAT PARALLEL PARKING AREA WHERE THERE'LL BE A FULL ADA SPACE REQUIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED BUT A DESIGN PROFESSIONAL WILL CERTIFY THAT THE PROJECT MEETS ADA THROUGH A LETTER AND A SITE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO THAT CONDITION.
AS IT RELATES TO THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT BROUGHT UP,
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THAT'S CONDITION NUMBER 7 TO ESTABLISH GRASPS PARKING ALONG CENTRAL BOULEVARD.AS WE'VE NOTED IN THE REPORT, THAT PARKING ISN'T DIRECTLY RELATED TO STADIUM OPERATIONS, LIKE SPRING TRAINING OPERATIONS, IT'S MORE RELATED TO ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE ON THOSE PRACTICE FIELDS AND A LACK OF PARKING IN PROXIMITY TO THOSE FIELDS.
THE CONDITION ISN'T DIRECTLY TIED TO THE NUMBER OF SEATS WITHIN THE STADIUM, IT'S TIED TO OTHER CERTAIN OPERATIONS THAT HAVE AN IMPACT IN THAT AREA.
THAT CONDITION HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED HERE.
IT WAS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED BACK IN 2019 WHEN THE APPLICANT WAS GOING THROUGH A SMALLER PROJECT TO ADD SOME PADDING TUNNELS, AND THE COUNCIL ELECTED TO PUT A PAUSE ON THAT CONDITION UNTIL SOMETHING MORE SIGNIFICANT CAME ALONG.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT CONDITION NOW AND THAT'S WHY STAFF HAS PUT CONDITION NUMBER 7 WITHIN THE EXHIBIT.
ALONG WITH THOSE CHANGES, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SOME NEW SIGNAGE FOR EASE OF UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS OF THAT, THEY'VE BEEN SEPARATED IN THE STAFF REPORT BETWEEN EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL SIGNAGE [INAUDIBLE] HAS ITS OWN SPECIFIC SIGN CODE AND THE STADIUM HAS ITS OWN SPECIFIC SIGN PROGRAM.
THIS IS JUST GOING TO FIT IN WITHIN THAT PROGRAM.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN GENERAL, IT'S IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE SIGN CODE, BUT IT HAS ITS OWN SPECIFIC APPROVAL FOR THE STADIUM SIDEWISE.
THOSE ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION AND THAT INCLUDES ALL THE SIGNAGE THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE STADIUM, AS WELL AS THE NEW SIGNAGE.
WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CONCLUDE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER QIN OR ANYONE TO START US OFF?
WITH RESPECT TO DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ON SECTION 7, DO WE KNOW THEY EXIST AND DO WE HAVE A REMEDY FOR THEM?
>> COULD YOU PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN?
>> YEAH. I KNOW IF WE COULD THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL.
>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR RATIONALE.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT CONDITION REQUIRES GRASS STABILIZED GRASS PARKING TO BE ESTABLISHED IN THAT AREA.
WE'VE SEEN OTHER PROJECTS USE A MATERIAL CALLED TRUE GRID, WHICH IS BASICALLY A GRID SYSTEM THAT HAS STABILIZED SUBSTRATE BELOW IT AND THEN THAT MATERIAL AND THEN GRASS IS PLACED ON TOP OF THAT.
IT MAY NOT DRAIN EXACTLY AS NATURAL GRASS, BUT IT'S VERY PERMEABLE AND CAN TAKE SOME OF THAT.
AN ENGINEER WOULD HAVE TO CERTIFY THAT.
THEY'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TRAINERS, THE WHOLE FACILITY.
BUT IT'S NOT LIKE PAVEMENT IS BEING ADDED.
IT'S A MUCH MORE PERMEABLE SURFACE.
>> MADAM CHAIR, BUT ALSO NOTE, THERE WAS NO INFORMATION PROVIDED THAT WAS A CONCERN, SO IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO PROVIDE DETAILS OF THAT.
THERE IS IN FACT AN ISSUE AND HAVE THAT REVIEWED BY OUR STORM-WATER COORDINATOR.
>> MADAM CHAIR MAY MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT IT?
>> THESE ARE THE PRACTICE FIELDS.
THIS IS CENTRAL BOULEVARD IS RIGHT HERE.
IT'S THE AREA IN THIS GRASS AREA RIGHT IN HERE.
BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSIVE CHANGES THAT WE'RE DOING, THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE AS ALWAYS BEEN, IS AN AREA FOR DRAINAGE TO ACCUMULATE AND THEN DISCHARGE, WHICH IT DISCHARGES ACTUALLY TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT AREA, THE FIELDS.
OUR ENGINEERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT CARS PARKING IN THERE, IN THAT GRASS AREA AND HAVING POLLUTANTS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AND SO THEY'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
EVEN A BIGGER CONCERN IS THAT THE CONDITION AS IT READS AS WELL IT LEAVES NO LEEWAY.
IF SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ON A WATER QUALITY BASIS, IT SAYS THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS AN AREA WHERE THE DRAINAGE GOES AND THEN DISCHARGES TO THE NORTH PAST CENTRAL BOULEVARD.
THAT'S THE REASON AND WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE STAFF BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, PAUL.
I DON'T IMAGINE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE AREAS THAT WELL, YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO THIS YET, JOHN.
BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T PUSHED BACK ON THIS LOCATION FOR GRASS PARKING.
I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SITES.
I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING OVER AT CENTRAL AND UNIVERSITY.
THE CORNER OVER THERE IS POTENTIAL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE ISSUE IS THE ATTRACTION IS THOSE FOUR NORTH FIELDS.
>> YEAH. IT'S CLOSE TO THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
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>> WHEN THEY HAVE TOURNAMENT PLAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. I'VE ACTUALLY PARKED THERE BEFORE.
>> THE PEOPLE PARK COLOR OVER HERE BECAUSE IT'S IN PROXIMITY TO USE.
> >WE'LL TRUST IT IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
THE QUESTION I HAD WAS AROUND SIGNAGE.
GARRETT, IS THE SIGNAGE AS PROPOSED CURRENTLY COMPLIANT WITH ABACOA STANDARDS?
>> YES. YEAH, THERE'S TWO SIGNS PER BUILDING THE SIZES ARE GENERALLY IN SCALE WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF EACH BUILDING.
THEY COMPLY WITH IN GENERAL WHAT THE SIGNAGE IS WITHIN CAPACITY, BUT IT HAS ITS OWN SPECIAL PROGRAM.
>> I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT.
IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY OF ABACOA OF CREATING THAT AND WHO'S GOING TO FINALIZE THAT PROJECT?
>> YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD. YEAH. I'M GOING TO HAVE KURT COME UP AND TALK ABOUT IT.
>> YEAH, IT'S PART OF PALM BEACH COUNTY'S REQUIREMENT TO GO OUT AND SOLICIT ARTISTS FOR ART AND PUBLIC PLACES.
WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF APPLICANTS.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND FILTERED AS TO WHO MEETS THE CRITERIA JUST IN THAT SENSE.
THEN FROM THERE, WE'VE REVIEWED IT AND WE'RE HOPING FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S LOCAL.
ONE OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT'S HAPPENED IS NOBODY THAT'S BEEN SHORTLISTED AND NOTHING'S BEEN SELECTED YET.
IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED THAT WE SHARE THOSE THINGS WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSALS AND WHO WE ARE SELECTING.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALAINA, TOBY SINGER FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY ON THE ACTUAL PROCESS, MAKING SURE WE'RE ABOVE BOARDS.
BUT THE INTENT AND GOOD FAITH FROM THE JUPITER STADIUM LIMITED AND ROGER DEAN STADIUM IS TO REACH OUT TO YOU GUYS AND BRING YOU INTO THE FOLD ON THAT SIDE.
>> JUST DOING A LOCAL ARTIST WOULD BE DEFINITELY PREFERABLE JUST BECAUSE IT IS A BIG PUBLIC SPACE FOR EVERYONE YOU SAY AS A PREFERENCE.
THE FINALIZATION PROCESS IS THAT TURNS THE TOWN OF JUPITER, OR HOW IS THAT FINAL CALL OF THE CONCEPT AS AN ARTIST?
>> THE COUNTY IS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS THERE AN INFLUENCER.
THERE IS A BOARD OF FIVE SELECTION PEOPLE THROUGH JSL, JUPITER STADIUM LIMITED AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY AS TO WHICH ARTISTS GETS FINALLY SELECTED.
THERE'S A PROTOCOL AND AGREEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
THE IDEA AND THE INTENT WAS TO REACH OUT TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND GET YOUR GUYS AS INPUT ON THAT SIDE AS WELL.
FROM WHAT I KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE HAD A TOWN OF JUPITER LOCAL, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY FLORIDA LOCAL THAT ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS OUR COMMUNITY AND BASEBALL AS WELL.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
WE CAN REPORT BACK ON THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE.
YOUR PLAN OBVIOUSLY, THE STAFF'S PLAN IS TO HAVE A GRASP PARKING LOT AREA AND YOUR PLAN FOR THAT IS TO WHAT NOW? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GRASS AREA THAT THE DRAINAGE GOES TO FROM THE FIELDS IN THE STADIUM AND THEN IT'S DISCHARGED TO THIS POINT, THE NORTH END.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GRASS PARKING, AS JOHN SAID, IN THIS LOCATION RIGHT HERE.
>> THEN THAT AREA IS PART OF THE DRAINAGE CONVEYANCE AREA.
WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE DRAINAGE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT LARGER BUILDINGS FOR THE CLUBHOUSES WHICH WE WILL BE DISCHARGING THAT WAY.
>> I GUESS I'M STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING.
THE STAFF ARE LOOKING FOR A GRASS PARKING LOT AREA AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER SOLUTION?
>> WELL, THAT AREA IS A CONCERN TO OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS IN REGARDS TO EVEN GETTING SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT APPROVAL TO PUT CARS IN THAT AREA AFTER THEY REDO THE ENTIRE WATER QUALITY AND MODELING FOR THE PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE STAFF IS COMING FROM.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY USE THOSE FOR NON-BASEBALL OR MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL.
THERE ARE SOME TOURNAMENTS THAT ARE USED LOCALLY AND PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THAT LOCATION ON THE ROADWAYS.
THERE IS PARALLEL PARKING ON CENTRAL BOULEVARD IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT JUST NOT THE EXTENT.
SO THE QUANTITY OF PARKING, WE FEEL AS IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE STATE, IT MEETS YOUR CODE.
THIS IS JUST OVERFLOW PARKING IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
>> I'M SORRY. DO YOU THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE FOR WHAT?
>> WELL, WE MEET THE CODE FOR PARKING.
ON THE SAME, WE ACTUALLY EXCEED THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
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>> BUT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE GRASS PARK?
>> OUR ENGINEERS ARE SAYING THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
WE'VE ASKED TO JUST SEE IF WE CAN ASK THAT TO BE ELIMINATED.
>> JOHN, I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOLKS WOULD GET INVOLVED IN THIS IF NEED BE.
>> IF THEY SUBMIT SOME INFORMATION THAT INDICATES THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE WOULD HAVE THAT REVIEWED BY OUR STORMWATER COORDINATOR.
>> COULD WE MAKE THAT A CONDITION IF WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS MATTER?
>> YEAH. THEY WOULD DO IT ANYWAY.
YOU WOULD SUBMIT PLANS THAT SHOW IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA.
IT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
BUT IT CAN BE CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU LIKE TO DO SO.
>> I WOULDN'T NOTICE JUST A CLARIFICATION.
THERE'S NOT ANY PARALLEL PARKING ON CENTRAL BOULEVARD IN THE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M SORRY, JOHN. IT'S ON UNIVERSITY.
>> SO WE GET DOWN TO THE SOUTH.
>> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION AND IT MIGHT BE OUT OF LINE, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IT ANYWAY.
I'M NOT ALLOWED TO LET ME KNOW.
WHAT'S OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH THE TEAMS ON THE TOWN'S CONTRACT WITH THEM ON THAT OR CAN WE ASK THAT QUESTION OR NOT? I KNOW IT'S NOT GERMANE TO THIS, BUT JUST FROM MY OWN PERSONAL INTERESTS.
>> YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GET SWORN IN.
>> HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GET SWORN IN ON A QUESTION THAT, DOES HE?
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M MIKE BAUER.
I'M THE STADIUM'S GENERAL MANAGER.
>> DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A FACILITY-USE AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
WITHIN THAT AGREEMENT THAT COVERS SUCH THINGS AS ALLOWING GTA OR LITTLE LEAGUERS TO USE OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS.
THERE'S ALSO A REIMBURSEMENT COMPONENT FOR SECURITY WHEN WE USE JUPITER POLICE.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE BUT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK HE WAS ASKING ABOUT THE CONTRACTS BETWEEN THEM ORLEANS AND THE CARDINALS.
>> THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF '27
>> YES. IT HAS HAPPENED THAT THE GROWING WITH THE TOWN HAS NOT BEEN EXTENDED CONCURRENT WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT THE KNN OR TWO WHICH GOES THROUGH 2048 AND THE TOWN'S BEEN WAITING FOR THAT.
>> WHO KNEW THAT TOM WOULD HAVE THE ANSWER? [INAUDIBLE]
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH THIS NUMBER 7, THIS PARKING BECAUSE I KNOW MY NEPHEW COMES FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE STATE THAT THOSE HUGE TOURNAMENTS THAT ARE THERE.
IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHIN FLORIDA THAT ARE PLAYING THERE.
IT'S NOT JUST OUR LITTLE LOCAL THING.
ALSO PEOPLE EVEN GO THERE FOR FIREWORKS BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE IT'S A GREAT LOCATION.
I WANT TO KNOW, BY HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE WE REDUCING BASED ON THE SERVER? WE'RE LOSING ABOUT ROUGHLY 400 SEATS.
HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE WE LOSING?
>> WE'RE REDUCING THE SEATS BY 437.
KURT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT NUMBER RIGHT OFF HAND.
>> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT FOR THE RECORD GEORGE?
>> HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I JUST WANT TO VERIFY IT IF I COULD, IF YOU'D GIVE ME ONE MINUTE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE PARKING ON THE STADIUM.
IT'S CURRENTLY AT 443 AS THIS THING AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO 470.
THE REASON THERE'S AN INCREASE BECAUSE WE REDUCED THE SEATS BUT IT'S RELATIVE TO THE MODIFICATIONS WE MADE IN THE CLUBHOUSE PARKING AREAS BECAUSE WE INCREASED LANDSCAPE ISLANDS IN THERE TO ADD MORE LANDSCAPING.
WE DID REDUCE SOME, BUT THEN WE DON'T NEED AS MANY BECAUSE OF THE SEAT REDUCTION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, CAN I MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE BRICKS WILL STAY?
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>> I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE TEAM STORE.
I DON'T LOVE THE LOCATION, BUT I CAN SEE THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPTIONS JUST BECAUSE IT BLOCKS THAT VIEW RIGHT INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA BUT ARE YOU STILL GOING TO HAVE A TEAM STORE INSIDE OF THE STADIUM AS WELL?
>> WELL, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE WAY TO THAT TEAM STORE.
THERE'S AN ENTRANCE INTO THAT FROM THE INSIDE OF THE STADIUM IN THE COLONIES.
>> THERE'S JUST THE ONE TEAM STORE?
>> YES, IT'S ALL THE SAME TEAM, SO IT'S JUST BEING MADE BIGGER BECAUSE IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE I'M SURE IT'S VERY SMALL AND SO WE'RE MAKING IT MORE EASY ACCESS AND ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF IT A LOT BETTER.
>> WHEN I'VE BEEN TO THERE, I'VE NEVER NOTICED BECAUSE I WANTED TO TAKE A 92-YEAR-OLD CARDINALS FAN.
IS THERE AN ELEVATOR OR SOME TYPE OF A RAMP TO BE ABLE TO GET UP TO THE SEATS.
WHERE'S THAT? NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FIND THAT?
>> [BACKGROUND] NOW WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL GET TO THE RAMP FIRST, THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THE TEAM STORE.
THERE IS CURRENTLY AN EXISTING ADA RAMP THAT IS ON THE THIRD BASE SIDE AND I'M GOING TO FLY US OVER THERE REAL QUICK.
THE INTENT IS TO KEEP THAT THERE BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE STADIUM, THIS IS THE ELEVATED CONCOURSE THAT'S IN THE MAIN SEATING BOWL AND ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT THERE ARE THE ADA SEATS.
EXCUSE ME GUYS, I'M TRYING TO GET OVER THERE QUICKLY TO BE CONSCIOUS ON PEOPLE'S TIME.
THERE IS AN EXISTING ADA RAMP THAT'S IN PLACE AND THE NEW EDITION WE'RE ACTUALLY RAMPING UP AND CONNECTING TO THAT SO THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE NEW THIRD BASE BAR AREA AND THAT ENTERTAINMENT AREA IS ON AN ACCESSIBLE ROUTE FROM THAT GRADE LEVEL CONCOURSE TO THAT MID-LEVEL OR ELEVATED CONCOURSE THAT GOES WITHIN THE SEATING BOWL PROPER AND THEN EVERYTHING.
THERE IS ALSO AN ADA ACCESSIBLE ELEVATOR THAT TAKES YOU UP TO THE PRESS BOX IF YOU'RE IN ONE OF THOSE SUITES THAT ARE ON THAT ELEVATED AREA FURTHER BACK THERE.
IT'S FULLY ON AN ACCESSIBLE ROUTE YOU CAN BRING A 92-YEAR-OLD CARDINALS HORMONE SPANS
>> I WANT TO BRING HER UP, I GUESS IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE.
>>THERE IS A SECOND RAMP ON THE FIRST BASELINE.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. LET ME JUST GO TO THAT.
IT'S ON BOTH ENDS OF THAT SEATING BOWL.
>> SOME OF US OLD GUYS LIKE ME HAVE TO USE THAT.
>> IT'S ACTUALLY MINUS THAT LITTLE TROUGH THAT'S THERE BUT THEY'RE THREE-WAY RAMP THAT GETS YOU UP TO THERE.
THEN MIKE HAD TAPPED ME ON THE SHOULDER.
IN REGARDS TO THE TEAM STORE THERE IS THE TEAM STORE THAT IS ACCESSIBLE HERE FROM THE MAIN CONCOURSE WITHIN THE STADIUM, BUT THE IDEA WAS FOR IT TO BE ACCESSIBLE ON THE EXTERIOR AS WELL.
WE'VE GOT THE DOORS THAT ARE OVER HERE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT IF WE'RE GOING TOO FAST BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE TEAM STORE TO BE OPEN ON NON-GAME DAYS IF SOMEBODY IS IN TOWN AND WANTS TO GET SOME TYPE OF MERCHANDISE OR APPAREL.
TO THE OTHER POINT OF THAT IS THAT WE ARE CREATING IN THE THIRD BASE SIDE, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK UP AND OVER HERE IS UNDER TUCKED UNDERNEATH OF THE NEW THIRD BASE BAR AREA OR ENTERTAINMENT AREA IF YOU WILL.
WE'RE ACTUALLY CREATING A RETAIL SPACE THAT'S AT THE GROUND LEVEL TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO IN AND BUY MERCHANDISE WITHIN HERE AS WELL.
THERE'LL BE APPAREL THAT'S UP HERE SO WE ACTUALLY CARVED OUT SOME OF THE SPACE UNDERNEATH THERE DURING THE HIGH-VOLUME SPRING TRAINING AREAS FOR ADDITIONAL MERCHANDISE TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE FANS.
THE LETTER THAT CAME FROM TO 2GH0, I SAID THERE WERE TWO COLLEGE CAMPUSES IN AGRICULTURE.
BESIDES FAU WHAT ELSE IS THERE BECAUSE I WORKED FOR FA, SO I'M WONDERING WHAT THIS COMPETITION IN SOME OTHER AREAS.
>> THAT'S PROBABLY A SCRIBNER'S ERROR.
THERE IS ONE THE HONORS COLLEGE THERE AND THE NEW STEM BUILDING AS PART OF FAU AS WELL.
THE REST THERE IS ANOTHER INSTITUTION AT SCRIPS.
>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. I'M SORRY THAT'S WHY WE PUT THAT IN THERE.
SCRIPTS HAS THEIR OWN [INAUDIBLE].
NOT TO MENTION FAU AND SCRIPTS DO EDUCATION TOGETHER AS WELL AS STATE PALM BEACH STATE COLLEGE AT THAT CAMPUS AS WELL.
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I'M A GATOR. MY SON IS AN OWL.I WILL JUST SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR LITTLE FLY OVER VIDEO THING.
THAT WAS VERY NICE, BUT I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEY'D LIKE TO ASK? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DELIBERATE ON THE CONDITIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANY?
>> IT LOOKS LIKE WHERE YOU BUY TICKETS IS THAT THE SAME AS BEFORE?
>> IT'S CURRENTLY SIX EXISTING TICKET WINDOWS, THOSE WILL REMAIN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING NOW WITH MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL, IT'S GOING DIGITAL SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU GO IT'S A QR CODE ON YOUR PHONE.
THERE'S LESS PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GO TO THOSE TICKET WINDOWS.
EVERYTHING'S GONE THROUGH TYPICALLY THROUGH THE MLB BALLPARK APP THESE DAYS.
>> WE'RE DONE WITH QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER KEENAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY DELIBERATIONS, THINGS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT?
>> NO. I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER APPROVING SUBJECT TO THE DRAINAGE AND PARKING ISSUE BEING RESOLVED?
THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. I THINK WE GOT TO TRY.
>> I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THE CONDITION AND GIVING THEM TIME TO WORK IT ALL OUT AMONGST YOURSELVES.
I WOULD LEAVE IT AT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT CONDITION.
>> SUBJECT TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT? IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER THING ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY?
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE SET ASIDE AND ALSO WITH THE CONDITION THAT ITEM NUMBER 7 WAS ADDRESSED OR THE DRAINAGE.
STAFF HAS A SAY ON THAT AND THEY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND HAD THE FINAL SAY ON HOW THAT'S TO BE DONE?
>> THAT NEEDS TO BE QUALIFIED OR IS IT JUST IF WE LEAVE THIS CONDITION NUMBER 7 IN PLACE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON IT ANYWAY.
>> YOU COULD MAKE THE CONDITION SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE STORM WATER AT THE TAIL END STORM WATER COORDINATOR AND SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
DO WE HAVE ANY DELIBERATION ON THEM I THINK? NO. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION PASSES.
>> CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THIS DONE AND HAVING YOU OUT TO THE STADIUM.
>> I WANT TO COME SEE THE CLUBHOUSES WHEN THEY'RE DONE. HAVE A HAPPY DAY.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE TOWN STAFF WORKING ON THIS.
IT'S BEEN A LOT OF HOURS AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND THANK YOU-ALL TODAY.
WE'RE EXCITED TO GET THIS GOING.
>> ALTHOUGH I DO HAVE TO SAY IT WAS A LITTLE [INAUDIBLE] HE SAID THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T WATCH IT AGAIN.
WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE? NOW, WE MOVE ON TO OUR MR. MARTIN SCHNEIDER AND OUR EVALUATION
[5.B.2. Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR) based Comprehensive Plan Text Amendments]
AND APPRAISAL REPORT BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE TEXT AMENDMENTS. TAKE IT AWAY.>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARTIN SCHNEIDER.
I'M WITH THE TOWN'S PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED THE ER-BASED AMENDMENTS, WHICH IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT.
THE AMENDMENTS BASED ON THAT PROCESS.
AS AN INTRODUCTION, EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN FLORIDA IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE EVALUATION APPRAISAL REPORT IS REQUIRED EVERY SEVEN YEARS.
THIS IS THE TIME WE'RE DOING IT.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MUST BE UPDATED TO REFLECT STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE LAST UPDATE.
THOSE AMENDMENTS ARE MANDATED.
THE ONLY MANDATED CHANGE DURING THE CYCLE WAS ADDING A PRIVATE PROPERTY ELEMENT,
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WHICH THE TOWN DID IN 2022 PRIOR TO THE YEAR BASED AMENDMENTS.THE TOWN CAN, AS PART OF THE ER, DETERMINE IF THERE'S OTHER UPDATES THAT ARE NEEDED BASED ON CHANGING COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES SUCH AS STRATEGIC PRIORITIES THAT MIGHT CHANGE OR CHANGES TO EXISTING CONDITIONS AND TRENDS AFFECTING COMMUNITIES, SUCH AS POLICIES RELATED TO SEA LEVEL RISE, CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS, OR EVEN THE INCREASE OF POPULARITY OF PICKLE-BALL, AND THE NEED TO HAVE MORE FACILITIES TO MEET THAT DEMAND.
THESE AMENDMENTS ARE NOT MANDATED.
THESE ARE OPTIONAL BY THE TOWN TO UPDATE THEIR COMPETENCE PLAN.
WE ALSO USE THE ER-BASED AMENDMENT PROCESSED AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE POLICIES THAT ARE OUTDATED OR THAT ARE NO LONGER TOWN PRIORITIES.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY PROPOSED AMENDMENT, BUT I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME SPECIFIC POLICIES.
IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, POLICY 1.3.16 AND 18 DEAL WITH CONSERVATION AND RECREATION PROTECTION.
THE FIRST PART OF THE POLICY HAS TO DO WITH ADDING A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF YOU ARE GOING TO CHANGE A CONSERVATION LAND USE OR RECREATIONAL LAND USE TO SOME OTHER LAND USE.
IN MOST CASES, SOME OTHER LAND USE WOULD BE MORE INTENSE THAN CONSERVATION OR RECREATION LAND USE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT ADDS A LAYER OF PROTECTION TO THOSE LANDS.
THE SECOND PART OF THE POLICY IS TO IDENTIFY CONSERVATION RECREATION AREAS THAT ARE 10 ACRES OR MORE THAT WERE REQUIRED TO FULFILL A DEVELOPMENT ORDER, SUCH AS CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR EVENTUAL CONVERSION TO AN ACTUAL CONSERVATION OR RECREATIONAL LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
NOT ALL LANDS USED FOR CONSERVATION PRESERVATION OR RECREATION PURPOSES THAT ARE PROTECTED BY A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OR SOME OTHER LEGAL DOCUMENT, THEY DON'T ALL HAVE CONSERVATION RECREATIONAL LAND USE DESIGNATION UNDERNEATH.
THIS POLICY WOULD DIRECT TOWN STAFF TO RESEARCH THESE AREAS AND MORE PRACTICAL TO MAN THE LAND USE TO THE CORRESPONDING DESIGNATION, THEREBY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PROTECTION TO THESE AREAS.
FOR INSTANCE, THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT HAVE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO AS PART OF A PUD OR SOMETHING.
THIS WOULD ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND SEE WHERE THOSE SITUATIONS OCCURRED AND HAVE THE TOWN DO A LAND USE CHANGE TO CHANGE THOSE TOO, AND ACTUAL CONSERVATION LAND USE DESIGNATION.
>> I'M SORRY. CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET LOST AND EVERYTHING.
IN THAT INSTANCE THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT HARDER, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THE LAND USE ON THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT BECAUSE THEN IT'S GOING TO BE BE A SUPER MAJORITY INSTEAD OF THREE?
>> ALSO ANYTIME YOU CHANGE A LAND USE MAP, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS.
WHEREAS IF YOU WERE JUST GETTING AN EASEMENT REMOVED, THAT WOULD BE JUST GOING INTO THE COUNSEL AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU REMOVE THIS EASEMENT. SO IT ADDS AN EXTRA
>> FOR OBJECTIVE 1.18 RELATED TO TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE USE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT REMOVES THE SELF-IMPOSED AID TO DEVELOP A CRITERIA, AND IT ADDS A REFERENCE TO THE 2035 INTER-MODAL MAP.
THE INTENT IS TO ALLOW THE TOWN TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN.
TO WORK WITH TO JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER ON TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE DESIGN IN COORDINATION WITH THEIR HOSPITAL CAMPUS MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS.
THAT'S IN THE TONY PENA AND OLD DIXIE AREA.
THE HOSPITAL'S PURCHASED A LOT OF PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA AND HAS LONG-RANGE PLANS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T STARTED THAT PROCESS YET.
WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT IN COORDINATION.
IN THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT, THE PROPOSALS TO ADD POLICY 2.2.10, WHICH IS TO SUPPORT STATE AND NATIONAL TRAIL SYSTEM, SPECIFICALLY THE EAST COAST GREENWAY AND THE SUN TRAIL.
THIS IS TO PROMOTE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY.
BY MOVING THE STANDARDS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, THE TOWN WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANT MONEY FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
THAT WOULD HELP TO COMPLETE THESE SYSTEMS AND CREATE THAT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN WHERE THE PADS START AND END AND MAKING ONE UNIFIED SYSTEM.
THIS WOULD FULFILL A BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
THE NEXT ONE IS ADD OBJECTIVE 3.8 AND POLICY 3.8.1,
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WHICH IS TO SUPPORT VISION ZERO, WHICH SEEKS TO REDUCE TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND WAS ADOPTED BY A RESOLUTION BY THE TOWN.THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S STRATEGIC PRIORITY FOR MOBILITY AND SAFETY.
IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, POLICY 1.2.8 IS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED TO UPDATE THE NON-RESIDENTIAL LINKAGE FEE FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM.
THE CURRENT POLICY PREDATES THE ADOPTION OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM AND THE LEAKAGE FEE THAT'S PART OF THAT IN THE LDR.
THIS IS JUST THE CLEANUP TO INDICATE THAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED AND IT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED.
ANOTHER ITEM RELATED TO THE LINKAGE FEE AS PART OF THE ER EVALUATION IS BRINGING THE AMOUNT OF LINKAGE FEE TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
THE CURRENT FEE RIGHT NOW IS ONE DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT AFTER AN EXEMPTION FOR THE FIRST 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE BUILDING.
BASICALLY, THE VALUE HAS BEEN DECREASED CONSIDERABLY SINCE IT WAS CREATED IN 2015 DUE TO INFLATION AND THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION.
THE PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE IT TO TWO DOLLARS, BUT THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE TOWN COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO LEAVE THE SAME CHANGES TO DUAL HOURS, CHANGE IT TO A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OR REQUEST FOR THEIR ANALYSIS ON THAT.
POLICY 1.2.14 WAS EXPANDED TO DETAIL THE ALLOCATION OF THE INCOME CATEGORIES FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM.
IT'S BASED ON THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE LDRS.
IT'S JUST TO PROVIDE FURTHER CLARIFICATION IN THE COMP PLAN TO MATCH WHAT'S IN THE LDRS.
THEN IN THE CONSERVATION OF COST ELEMENTS, THERE ARE SEVERAL INTERCONNECTED AMENDMENTS RELATED TO INCREASING PROTECTION OF SEAGRASSES, MARINE HABITAT AND THE SHORELINE, INCLUDING FLOOD PROTECTION, LIVING SHORELINES, SUBMERSED LAND'S SURFACE WATERS.
THERE IS AN EMPHASIS ON MORE NATURE-BASED APPROACHES TO SHORELINE PROTECTION USING LIVING SHORELINES SUCH AS RIP RAP WITH MANGROVES PROVIDING OYSTER HABITAT AND REEF BALLS RATHER THAN RELYING ON ALL MAN-MADE HARDENING SOLUTIONS SUCH AS SEAWALLS AND BULKHEADS.
THESE POLICIES, WE'VE ALSO ADDED REQUIRE MARINE STEWARDSHIP PLANS FOR WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT TO SHOW HOW THESE PROJECTS WILL PROTECT, ENHANCE, AND MAINTAIN THE SHORELINE.
THESE POLICIES ALL SUPPORT THE TOWN'S GREEN, BLUE, AND OPEN SPACE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
THERE'S ALSO POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN AMENDED TO REFLECT THE PREPARATION OF THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, AND IT GIVES THE DATE FOR THE ADOPTION OF THAT.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR ISSUES.
WE ALSO PROVIDED UPDATES IN HOUSEKEEPING TO THE RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT, AND THROUGHOUT ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS.
WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, HOW DO YOU WANT TO START US OFF?
>> I REALLY COMMEND THE CUMULATION OF ALL THE IDEAS AND VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY TODAY.
I MEAN, THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT WERE PUT INTO THIS THAT I KNOW CORRESPONDS WITH WHAT THE COMMUNAL DESIRES FOR THE 21ST CENTURY.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADDED PROTECTIONS TO MAINTAINING OUR CONSERVATION AREAS, PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL ROOMS FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THE CONSERVATION ASPECT, I MEAN, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY ROUNDED OUT OF WHAT I BELIEVE OUR COMMUNITY BELIEFS AND VALUES ARE, SO THANK YOU.
>> IT WAS A GOOD REPORT, RYAN. [OVERLAPPING]
COMMISSIONER DUNNING, ANY QUESTIONS?
>> [NOISE] EXCUSE ME, I'D LIKE TO ECHO YOUR CONCERNS.
I AGREE, VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS THAT WHEN THIS IS IMPLEMENTED, WHEN WOULD THAT BE IF IT HAS TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL, CORRECT?
>> WHEN WOULD THE OFFICIAL IMPLEMENTATION DATE BE?
>> IT GOES TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING AND TRANSMITTAL TO THE DEO, BUT NOW IT'S DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, I THINK IS WHERE IT'S HOUSED NOW.
IT GOES UP TO THE STATE AND THEN THEY HAVE, I THINK IT'S 60 DAYS TO REVIEW IT AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO US AND THEN WE WOULD BRING IT FOR THE SECOND READING BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL AND ADOPTION.
THERE'S ALSO A TIME PERIOD I BELIEVE AFTERWARDS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS TO IT AND THEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT.
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>> I GUESS I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW A FUTURE APPLICANT WOULD KNOW WHEN THIS COULD GO INTO EFFECT AND HOW THEY WOULD PUT THEIR APPLICATION IN TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS AND MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS.
I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY WAY TOO PREMATURE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WAS THINKING ABOUT.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE THE MARINE STEWARDSHIP PLAN, YOU MIGHT RECALL HAS COME UP IN APPLICATIONS.
SOMETIMES THESE CHANGES ACTUALLY LAG ON WHAT WE'RE DOING THROUGH CONDITIONS AND MOVING THINGS FORWARD.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NEW THAT WILL HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED INTO LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
IT JUST REALLY HELPS GIVE US MORE JUSTIFICATION TO A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND THAT'S HOW WE STEERED THE PROCESS TO INCLUDE THESE AS POLICIES TO MAKE THEM OFFICIAL.
THEN WE HAVE A BETTER STANDING ON APPLICATIONS THAT MAY BE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEWS OR STRAIGHTFORWARD SITE PLANS THAT DON'T REQUIRE A PUD AND HAVE THAT DISCRETIONARY PUBLIC BENEFIT REQUIREMENT.
IT MAKES IT THE STANDARD, IT RAISES IT TO THE NEW STANDARD.
WE WILL MAKE APPLICANTS AWARE AS SOON AS IT'S APPROVED THROUGH OUR COMMENT LETTERS AND THROUGH MAKING A PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF THESE KIND OF CHANGES.
>> I WAS JUST THINKING AND I'D HATE FOR AN APPLICANT WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
YOU'RE PUTTING NEW RESTRICTION ON ME OR WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GUARD AGAINST THAT, BUT JUST A THOUGHT.
>> I AGREE. LOOKING THROUGH THIS, I WAS DREADING IT FROM WHAT YOU SAID LAST TIME [LAUGHTER] ABOUT GETTING READY FOR IT.
BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY EASY TO FOLLOW OVERALL FOR WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE STUFF, BUT I APPRECIATE IT.
I WAS LOOKING AT IT LIKE THIS IS FRIGHTENING DISSERTATION MAKING EVERYTHING GO JUST TOGETHER NICELY AND YOU DID VERY GOOD JOB. THANK YOU.
>> NO QUESTIONS OTHER THAN AROUND PICKLEBALL.
I WAS INTRIGUED BY THE RATIOS THAT WERE IN HERE THOUGH.
DO YOU ALL JUST AGGREGATE ALL OF THESE CHANGES OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD AND THEN THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF THAT? IS THAT THE WAY IT GOES?
>> NO, WE LOOK AT WHAT THE STATE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND MAKE SURE WE MEET ALL THOSE.
THEN THE COMPLAINT CAN BE AMENDED AT ANY TIME BY THE TOWN OR ON DIRECTION FROM TOWN COUNCIL, OR BY AN APPLICANT THAT REQUESTS THE CHANGE.
IT GETS UPDATED THROUGHOUT THOSE SEVEN YEARS.
>> BUT THEN THIS, WE LOOK AT IT AS A TIME TO CATCH OUTDATED POLICIES OR CHANGES.
WE KNOW THAT THE [OVERLAPPING] EMPHASIS IS ON SIGN CONSERVATION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SOME OF THEM MAY COME UP DURING THESE MEETINGS, OTHERS MAY COME UP JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LATEST AND GREATEST [INAUDIBLE].
GREAT. WELL, THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK.
I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S INCREDIBLE.
>> I ALSO AGREE THIS WAS AN OUTSTANDING COMPILATION OF SO MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES AND ELEMENTS.
I TAKE IT THAT THE TIMING WAS AN OPPORTUNE ONE.
THIS WAS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT, OTHERWISE, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DONE LAST YEAR.
IN LOOKING AT MOST OF THESE, I THOUGHT THEY WERE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND VERY WELL-INTENTIONED.
ONE QUESTION AND ONE MINOR COMMENT ON YOUR TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS, MY QUESTION, THE VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, IN THE ANALYSIS, THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO TRAINS BUT IN THE POLICY THING HERE, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO TRAINS. WHY?
>> WELL, IT'S PROBABLY TO DEAL WITH CROSSING TRAINS AND SAFETY LIKE THAT.
>> THAT'S ALL FEDERALLY PREEMPTIVE THOUGH.
YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE MESSING AROUND WITH TRAINS.
ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH A CROSSING OR APPROACHING A CROSSING IS GOVERNED EXCLUSIVELY BY FEDERAL LAW OR LOCAL LAWS PREEMPTED.
>> CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SO I CAN SEE THE WORDING? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IN THE POLICY 3.81, THE THIRD LINE DOWN WHICH APPEARS ON PAGE 217, THERE'S A REFERENCE ABOUT A PROACTIVE SAFE SYSTEM APPROACH FOR TRAINS.
I WOULD DELETE THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY OVER TRAINS.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY OVER TRAIN OPERATIONS, YOU DO HAVE A SAY OVER THE APPROACH TO TRAIN TRACKS AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A SAFE APPROACH FOR THE PUBLIC ON THE STREETS AND HIGHWAYS OF THE TOWN.
>> IF IT'S BEYOND A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM THE CROSSING ITSELF, YOU'RE CORRECT.
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BUT IT'S WITHIN THE CROSSING ITSELF, NO.>> I DIDN'T SAY WITHIN THE CROSSING, I SAID TRAIN OPERATIONS.
TRAINS ARE IN THE OPERATING AREA.
THIS POLICY, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY AND I HELPED CRAFT IT, HAS TO DO WITH VISIONS [INAUDIBLE] AND SAFETY FOR THE MOTORING PUBLIC AND PEDESTRIAN PUBLIC, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS POLICY IS DIRECTED AT.
WHEN YOU HAVE BRIGHT LINE COMING THROUGH HERE, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF FATALITIES ON THE ROAD RAILS, BOTH FOR VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT POLICY IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS.
>> I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS, I MEAN HAVING REPRESENTED THE RAILROAD FOR 40 YEARS IN INTERSTATE COMMERCE, ANYTIME ANY COMMUNITY TRIES TO GET INVOLVED WITH A RAILROAD CROSSING IN TERMS OF REGULATING ANYTHING, ANY PART OF IT, IT'S USUALLY PREEMPTED.
NOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ROAD APPROACHING IT BEFORE YOU GET TO IT, THAT'S PROBABLY LOCAL.
BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY A PHYSICAL DISTANCE WHERE YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT, IT'S ALL FEDERAL.
>> I'LL TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN I MEET WITH STAFF BEFORE THIS GOES TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
>> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION, ACTUALLY COMMENT, I HAD WAS ON 2.10.
I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT PUBLIC SIGNAGE WITH MAPS IDENTIFYING THE LOCATION OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WORK ON, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT WE ARE DOING A CRA PLAN WHICH IS GOING TO DEAL WITH THESE SYSTEMS ALSO.
IN THAT PLAN, YOU MIGHT SAY DO SOME KIND OF MASTER SIGNAGE PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE RIVERWALK, AND THIS COULD TIE IN WITH THAT.
BUT, YES, ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE IS DEFINITELY VALUABLE, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE.
>> IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL THING TO HAVE.
IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING A SYSTEM OF PATHS, TO HAVE A PUBLIC SIGNAGE WITH MAPS IS FANTASTIC.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? ANY COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ISSUE?
>> SORRY. HAVING A ALLERGY ATTACK.
WE ARE IN DELIBERATION, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS PART OF IT? THEN WE'LL HAVE A MOTION.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS COMPILED OR COMPOSED?
>> VICE CHAIR KERN MADE THE MOTION, MR. KEENAN, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? NO. YOU'RE UP AGAIN.
[5.B.3. Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR) based Town initiated Small Scale Future Land Use Map (FLUM) and Zoning Map Amendments]
>> THANK YOU. THIS IS BASICALLY THE SECOND PART OF THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL PORT-BASED AMENDMENTS.
THOSE WERE THE POLICY TEXT AMENDMENTS.
THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS, AND WE ALSO ARE DOING THE REZONING CORRESPONDING TO THOSE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS.
IS A TOWN IN THE SHADE SMALL-SCALE FUTURE LAND MAP AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR 7.9 ACRES LOCATED AT 500 NORTH DELAWARE FROM MEETING DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO RECREATION, AND FROM NOT DESIGNATED TO CONSERVATION.
>> OH, MY GOD. DID YOU SAY 7.9 OR IS IT 7.6?
I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME TYPOS GOING ON.
>> I THINK 7.6 IS THE CORRECT NUMBER.
>> OH, I SEE THE TOTAL 7.9 OF THE TWO PART OF THIS. [OVERLAPPING]
BECAUSE THE OTHER PROPERTY IS 0.3 AND THAT'S FROM NOT DESIGNATED TO CONSERVATION, AND THAT'S A LOCATION ON INDIAN TOWN ROAD NEAR THE TURNPIKE INTERSECTION.
THEN CORRESPONDING TO THOSE WOULD BE THE ZONING CHANGES FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL FOR THE 7.6 ACRES AND FROM THAT ZONE TO CONSERVATION PRESERVATION FOR THE 0.03 ACRES.
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AGAIN, AS PART OF THE YEAR REVIEW, WE LOOKED AT WHAT LAND USE CHANGES WE COULD INCORPORATE INTO THIS PROCESS.AGAIN, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO THEM SEPARATELY ON THEIR OWN.
BUT WE FIGURED THAT THESE ARE TOWN PROPERTIES AND WE COULD FOLD THEM INTO THIS PROCESS.
THE 500 NORTH DELAWARE WAS PURCHASED THROUGH THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM, AND IT HAD A DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL.
THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM ALLOWS YOU TO USE THE LAND FOR ENVIRONMENT SENSITIVE WATERFRONT RECREATIONAL LANDS AND LANDS FOR OPEN SPACE, ARCHAEOLOGICAL, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND TRAFFIC MITIGATION.
WITH THAT IN MIND, WE SELECTED THE RECREATIONAL LAND USE AS THE MOST APPROPRIATE WITH A PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL ZONING IN ORDER TO GIVE THE TOWN COUNCIL SOME FLEXIBILITY SINCE AT THIS POINT THERE HAS BEEN NO PLANNING.
OUR DECISIONS MADE ON THE DESIGN OF THAT 500 DELAWARE PROPERTY.
THIS WOULD RESTRICT THE USES TO RECREATION, OPEN SPACE, AND CONSERVATION COULD BE ALSO ON THE PROPERTY AND IT RESTRICTS THE USES TO ANY PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL USES WHICH ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE RECREATIONAL LAND-USE.
THE SECOND PROPERTY IS A REMNANT PARCEL THAT WAS AIDED TO US BY THE FLORIDA [INAUDIBLE] TEAM IN 2019 AND IT DIDN'T HAVE A DESIGNATION AT THE TIME BECAUSE IT WAS JUST PART OF THE RIGHT AWAY.
THIS WOULD JUST ASSIGN THAT TO A CONSERVATION DESIGNATION AND THE PROPERTY NOW IS A PORTION OF IT.
IT IS PART OF THE GATEWAY FEATURE THAT'S OUT THERE THAT HAS THE PALM TREES AND THE ROCKS AT THAT LOCATION, AND IT WOULD STAY IN THAT NET, THAT GREEN OPEN SPACE CONDITION.
SINCE NEITHER OF THESE PROPERTIES WILL HAVE USE, ANY YOU USE IS MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED UNDER THE PREVIOUS USES.
USUALLY THESE STUDIES ARE A LOT OF IMPACTS OF WHAT THE CHANGE WOULD MEAN ON TRAFFIC, WATER AND SEWER, POLICE, ALL THOSE TYPE OF CHANGES.
BUT SINCE THESE ARE BOTH BASICALLY STAYING IN A NATURAL OR A RECREATION TYPE OF USE, THOSE IMPACTS ARE MINIMAL AND IN MOST CASES IT'S LESS IMPACT THAN THE PREVIOUS USE.
WITH THAT WE'D RECOMMEND THAT WE FIND THAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE CONSISTENT, INAPPROPRIATE FOR THESE DESIGNATIONS AND THE ZONING, AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
>> THANK YOU. MR. BLUM, YOU WANT TO START US OFF WITH ANY QUESTIONS?
>> MY QUESTION IS THIS, IS THERE ANY ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY? [INAUDIBLE] IS THERE ANY REAL ACCESS TO [INAUDIBLE]?
>> JUST THE ROADS THAT LEAD TO IT IN THE ROAD ALONG SIDE OF IT.
>> CAN YOU SPEAK IN YOUR MIC, PLEASE?
>> NO, I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE I THOUGHT DELAWARE ENDED THERE.
>> THE DELAWARE DOES PRETTY MUCH STOP AT HALLEY STREET HERE.
THIS IS THE JUPITER INLET DISTRICT PROPERTY, THERE IS VEHICULAR ACCESS THERE AND THEN THERE IS A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES UP TO TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS APPEAR ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
>> THEN THERE IS HALLEY STREET AND THEN CLOSE THE HATCH ALSO TERMINATES AT THE INTERSECTION OF HALLEY.
>> WHENEVER I SEE A PROPOSED CONSERVATION RECREATION, I GIVE A THUMBS UP. NO QUESTIONS.
>> WELL, THEN I CAN HAVE A DEBATE. MR. VICE CHAIR?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. ON 500 DELAWARE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE TURNPIKE PROPERTY. THAT'S FINE.
500 DELAWARE, IT SAYS THAT THE ITE CODE FOR THE PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY IS PUBLIC PARK ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
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>> IN THE SCOPE OF WHAT DOES A PUBLIC PARK MEAN AND WHAT DOES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSERVATION AND RECREATION?
>> RECREATION WOULD ALLOW MORE USES THAN CONSERVATION.
BUT WE JUST WENT WITH THE RECREATION LAND USE AND PUBLIC INSTITUTION TO GIVE THE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE I SAID THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HASN'T DETERMINED WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT WAS THE REASONING FOR THAT.
THEY CAN PUT THE CONSERVATION LAND USE ON IF THEY CHOOSE.
>> AS AN EXAMPLE, THE CIN QUIZ PARK PROPERTY HAS THE SAME DESIGNATIONS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING ON THIS PARCEL WITH THE RECREATION, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG
>> PUBLIC AND THAT'S PART OF THAT PROPERTY.
THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY IS MORE IN A NATIVE STATE AND IS MORE CONSERVATION AREA, BUT THE SOUTHERN AREA IS MORE ACTIVE IN USE, WHICH IS REALLY REQUIRED MORE THAN THE RECREATIONAL LAND-USE.
IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY ACTIVE USES ON THERE AND THEY WANT TO PUT CONSERVATION AND THAT ALIGNS WITH THE ATTENDED USE FOR THE PROPERTY.
IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT PLAN, WE RECOMMENDED AT THIS POINT, AT LEAST THE RECREATION AND THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL, WHETHER THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT COMMITTING TO JUST PASSIVE RECREATION AND PRESERVATION NATURAL TRAILS AND THAT THING.
KAYAK LAUNCH, WHATEVER, THEY COULD DECIDE TO PUT THE CONSERVATION PRESERVATION AT THIS TIME.
>> JUPITER INLET DISTRICT SENT THE EMAIL THAT SAID THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THE PASSIVE PARK.
>> THEY ARE HEARING. THEY SUBMITTED A CARD, YOU WILL ALSO HEAR FROM THEM.
>> I'LL WAIT FOR HIM TO MAKE HIS CONSENT.
THEN THE OTHER PART OF IT IS TO WHEN THIS WAS BEING PROPOSED FOR RESIDENTIAL BEFORE THE TOWN PURCHASED IT, THE RESIDENTS OF SIMS CREEK REALLY CAME OUT AND FORTH BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IF IT WERE TO BE DEVELOPED INTO A PARK LIKE SINK WAS, THEN THAT WOULD DRIVE TRAFFIC DOWN THAT ROAD AGAIN, RIGHT? DOWN DELAWARE.
>> YEAH. I THINK IN ANY CASE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME USE THERE.
LIKELY THAT WILL RESULT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT.
>> BUT IF IT'S KEPT CONSERVATION, IT WOULD JUST BE LEFT ALONE AND LET THE CRITTERS LIVE?
>> NO, THERE COULD STILL BE A PARKING LOT ACCESS LIKE OUR OTHER NATURAL AREAS HAVE.
THERE COULD BE A KAYAK LAUNCH.
THERE COULD BE SOME OF THOSE IMPROVED. [OVERLAPPING]
NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M DONE WITH THE RECREATION.
THERE'S DIFFERENT INTENSITY LEVELS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> RECREATION COULD INCLUDE BALL FIELDS, IT COULD INCLUDE A COMMUNITY CENTER, OTHER TYPE PIECES LIKE THAT.
>> WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED TO US, IS JUST A BLANKET STATEMENT THAT'S RECREATION.
IS THERE ANY ABILITY THAT WE CAN GIVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IS A LOWER INTENSITY USE OF RECREATION?
>> YOU CAN MAKE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION YOU COME TO A CONSENSUS ON.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT THE WHOLE TOWN.
WHERE DOES THE OTHER PART OF THE PUZZLE COME IN THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT ON THERE?
>> AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR OTHER AREAS.
IT'S JUST THESE AREAS RIGHT HERE, NO OTHER AREAS ARE PROPOSED?
>> EVERYTHING JUST STAYS THE SAME OTHER THAN THIS?
>> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS A CHANGING CONDITION BECAUSE THE TALENT BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND DOESN'T INTEND TO USE IT FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.
WHILE THERE'S SOME UNKNOWNS AS TO HOW INTENSIVE OR ACTIVE OR PASSIVE OR A RECREATION USE MAYBE OR TOTAL CONSERVATION.
THE COUNCIL HAS NOT MADE A DETERMINATION ON THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY, [OVERLAPPING] AND THAT'LL HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
>> WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT RIVERWALK AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND 1000 NORTH AND ALL THOSE AREAS TO BE.
>> NO, IT'S JUST ON THESE TWO PROPERTIES.
>> WE WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GIVE US YOUR MIND.
STATE YOUR NAME AND OF COURSE ALL THAT.
>> MY NAME IS JOE CHASE, AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE JUPITER INLET DISTRICT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'VE BEEN ON BOARD THERE SINCE 2019, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M APPEARING INFRONT OF YOU.
>> IF YOU COULD GET JUST A BIT CLOSER.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF YOU.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF THIS IS THE PROPER VENUE TO EXPRESS THIS OPINION,
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BUT FIRST MOST WE REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING WITH THE TOWN ON THIS PARCEL, AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.THIS COMMISSION MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT WE ARE PART OWNERS OF THIS PARCEL AT 509 NORTH DELAWARE WITH THE TOWN.
WE THINK IT'S A JOINT TENANCY IN COMMON, AND WE HAVE A DEED, AND WE EXECUTED AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND ZONING REVISION.
WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT THE CONSERVATION PRESERVATION ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THIS SITE.
WE THINK THAT THE USES DESCRIBED IN THERE, SURE THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH PI DESIGNATION, BUT WE THINK THE USES ALLOWED UNDER CONSERVATION ALIGN WELL, AND STILL GIVE ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY TO BE IMPROVED AS A PASSIVE PUBLIC PARK, AS WE AGREED IN THE TOWN RESOLUTION.
THAT WOULD BE RATHER THAN FUTURE LAND USE RECREATION AND ZONING, PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL, RATHER CONSIDER CONSERVATION AS THE FUTURE LAND USE AND CONSERVATION PRESERVATION AS THE ZONING FOR THIS SITE.
I THINK THE ENTITIES INVOLVED ENVISION THIS BEING A PASSIVE USE RECREATION SITE WITH POSSIBLY A KAYAK LAUNCH AND NATURE TRAILS, BUT NOT SPORTING FIELDS OR AMPHITHEATERS OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER PI.
>> WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS HAPPENING, SO WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO DELIBERATION ON IT? COMMISSIONER KEENAN, YOU WANT TO START OFF WITH YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> I'M INCLINED TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
>> WE'RE NOT MAKING MOTIONS YET DELIBERATING.
>> OH, I KNOW THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT WAS.
>> I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION. APPROVAL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS STELLAR ACTIVE SITE, THE DESIGNATED CONSERVATION INSTEAD OF RECREATION.
ALL WE DO IS MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
>> I COULD PROBABLY TRY AND ARGUE BOTH WAYS, BUT I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO STRONGER OPINIONS.
>> YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR ARGUMENTS AND THEN WE CAN [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, I JUST I'M ALWAYS CAUTIOUS OF STATING AN OPINION BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GAUGED SOMEONE SAID HERE, THE REST OF THE PUBLIC.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEIGHBORS THINK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYBODY ELSE THINKS OTHER THAN THIS COHORT RIGHT HERE.
>> WELL, WE JUST MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE DON'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.
>> BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I'M TRYING TO LEARN TOO, WHAT OUR ROLE IS VERSUS WHAT THE TOWN COUNCIL ROLE IS.
BUT I ALWAYS PREFER TO BE OVER INFORMED BY THE PEOPLE, COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAN JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT ON MY OWN.
>> WELL, MAYBE THIS WILL HELP YOU.
I WILL SAY THAT OVER 70% OF THE VOTERS VOTED FOR THE OPEN SPACE BOND, AND THIS WAS THE INTENTION OF HAVING CONSERVATION LANDS, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I WAS PROMOTING IT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR IT TO COME INTO FRUITION.
>> MADAM CHAIR, JUST FOR POINT INFORMATION BECAUSE WE ARE CHANGING THE LAND USE AND THE ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET WERE MAILED COURTESY NOTICES LETTING THEM KNOW ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES, [NOISE] SO THERE WAS THAT POINT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE NEARBY RESIDENTS OF WHAT'S PROPOSED.
THEN OF COURSE, WE DO LEGAL ADS AND ALSO POST THE PROPERTIES.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION I WASN'T AWARE OF, THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD VOTED FOR THAT AND THERE IS A BIG PUSH FOR THE [OVERLAPPING] CONSERVATION ASPECTS.
>> IT WAS A REFERENDUM ON THE 2016 OR '17
>> THAT WAS THE [OVERLAPPING] SECOND BONDING ISSUE.
THE BOND ISSUE, THE LAND DOES ALLOW FOR THE RECREATION USE AS WELL.
IT'S NOT JUST CONSERVATION [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S TRAFFIC MITIGATION [OVERLAPPING]
>> CONSERVATION, RECREATIONAL, ANYTHING TO TAKE IT OUT OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT'S A $20 MILLION BOND THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND, BUT THEY ONLY SPENT LIKE 7 MILLION ON THIS PROPERTY,
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SO THERE'S STILL MONEY LEFT IN THAT PART.>> I THINK IT WAS THREE-AND-A-HALF.
>> THREE-AND-A-HALF? OH, OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE, YEAH.
>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING A LOW INTENSITY PASSIVE TYPE OF PARK, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE PARKING SPACES, CORRECT? THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IF IT WAS CONSERVATION AREA.
IS THERE A PARKING LOT IF IT'S A CONSERVED AREA?
>> THERE CAN BE DEPENDING ON THE ACTUAL USE, YEAH.
LIKE A DELAWARE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.
DOWN HERE AT DELAWARE THERE'S A PARKING LOT HERE THAT PROVIDES [NOISE] THE PUBLIC ACCESS AND PARKING.
>> THERE'S CURRENTLY A PARKING LOT THERE, CORRECT?
>> WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS IT GONNA BE ANY TYPE OF EXPANSION IF YOU'RE PROPOSING RECREATION, OR WE DON'T KNOW THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME?
>> NO, WE DON'T KNOW. THAT'S UP FOR THE COUNCIL'S POLICY DIRECTION.
[OVERLAPPING] HOW THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TOGETHER WITH THE INLET DISTRICT?
>> THAT'S THE DELAWARE 1, BUT HE'S SAYING THAT THERE COULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT ON THE TAYLOR PROPERTY, 500, SORRY.
>> IN THE DELAWARE PROPERTY IS CONSERVATION PRESERVATION.
IT'S A VARIETY OF HABITATS THAT EXIST ON THAT PROPERTY.
THAT WASN'T A RESTORATION PROPERTY.
>> WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
>> LIKE COMMISSIONER CAREN SAYS, I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT PUBLIC THINKS ABOUT PROJECTS OF THIS MATTER, AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO ME ON EVERYTHING, AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY FEEL IS AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT LOOKS TO OTHER FOLKS AND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE, BUT THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.
I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING IS THAT WE DID THIS PORTION OF THE TOWN, BUT WHY DIDN'T WE DO THE OTHER PORTION OF THE TOWN? NOTHING OVER THERE NEEDED TO BE CHANGED AND ARE THERE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE TOWN?
>> NO. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING OF CONCERN OR IN YOUR MIND, CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO HEAR IT.
BUT LIKE I WAS I STARTED TO SAY I DIDN'T GET TO FINISH THE COMMENT, BUT THIS PROPERTY WAS DUE TO A CHANGE IN CONDITION WHERE THE TOWN PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND DIDN'T HAVE THE INTENTION TO USE IT FOR RESIDENTIAL.
THE OTHER PROPERTY WE ACQUIRED, IT WAS A RIGHT-OF-WAY, SO IT DIDN'T HAVE A DESIGNATION, AND WHEN WE ACQUIRED IT, IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE A DESIGNATION.
THAT'S WHY THESE TWO PROPERTIES ARE INCLUDED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> BECAUSE THEY WERE NEW PROPERTIES THAT THE TOWN GOT THAT NEEDED TO HAVE SOME RULES SET ON THEM. COMMISSIONER BLUM.
>> YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE ONE THAT'S ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE, CORRECT?
>> YOU BROUGHT UP THE TALK OF DELAWARE NORTH [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW IF THE GOAL WAS HOME.
>> WHO'S JUST SHOWING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE?
>> ANOTHER CONSERVATION PROPERTY THAT HAS TRAILS FOR PEOPLE TO USE.
SO THAT KIND OF THING COULD HAPPEN EVEN IF IT GETS A CONSERVATION DESIGNATION.
>> ON THE SUPPORT OF CONSERVATION THERE IS AN ISSUE.
>> YEAH. I'LL SAY THE SAME THING ON CONSERVATION PRESERVATION.
I AM FULLY VOCAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT I DON T THINK INTO TO TAKE FROM POP CULTURE EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE.
WE DON'T NEED IT. WE HAVE PLENTY IN JUPITER THAT WE CAN ENJOY IN THE CRITTERS NEED A PLACE TO LIVE.
I'M FULLY IN FAVOR FOR PROTECTING THE PROPERTY AND HAVING AS LITTLE INTENSITY OF LITTLE USE THAT HUMANS HAVE TO BE ON IT AT ALL.
THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION OR MY COMMENTS ON IT.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO CRAFT A MOTION?
>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED AS CONSERVATION PRESERVATION. THOUGHT OF ANYTHING.
>> ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
CONSERVATION PRESERVATION AND THEN JUST MR. JOHN DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US?
>> YEAH. I'LL GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE A REPORT OF THE RECENT COUNCIL MEETINGS AS WAS REQUESTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
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WELL, I'LL GO BACK AS FAR AS JUNE 20.JUNE 20TH, THE COUNCIL HEARD THE BEARS CLUB ITEMS THAT YOU HAD HEARD MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO, AND I THINK SOME OF YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T ON THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME, BUT THEY DID APPROVE THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE PUD AND TO APPROVE THE FITNESS CENTER AND THE DUPLEXES OR THREE DUPLEXES FOR SIX UNITS, AND THAT INCLUDED A REQUIREMENT TO DEDICATE THE PALM WOULD PRESERVE TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER, WHICH IS IN THE PROCESS TO BE MET BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH, AND THEN HAS TO OCCUR BEFORE THEY START PULLING ANY PERMITS.
THE CORNERSTONE PROPERTY, WHICH WAS THE DOC THAT WAS REQUIRED THAT WAS REQUESTED TO BE PUSHED OUT IN TIME, THAT ULTIMATELY IT WAS APPROVED WITH THE ALLOWANCE FOR A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF BUILDING THE 14 PUBLIC DOCS.
THAT'S WITH A REQUIREMENT FOR THE VALUE OF THAT PROJECT TO BE DETERMINED BY STAFF AFTER REVIEWING DOCUMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS.
ON JULY 18TH, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION ITEMS. ON AUGUST 3RD, THE COUNCIL HEARD THE MIXED-USE ZONING DISTRICT DENSITY REVISIONS TO THE CODE THAT WAS APPROVED ON CONSENT, AND THAT WAS FIRST READING, AND THEN ALSO IN THE SAME DATE, THE 550 BUSH ROAD PROJECT NAMED SEE GLASS, WENT BACK TO THE COUNCIL THAT YOU-ALL HAD SEEN.
THEY DID NOT TAKE FINAL ACTION ON THAT PROJECT.
THEY HAVE POSTPONED OTHER REQUESTS AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS CENTERING AROUND THEIR PROPOSED PUBLIC BENEFITS, SO THAT WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE.
>> JOHN, WHAT WAS THE PAYMENT FOR?
>> THE CORNERSTONE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF THE DOCS, WHAT WAS THAT PAYMENT TO BE USED FOR?
>> WHAT WOULD THE MONEY BE USED FOR? IT WAS DEDICATED THROUGH THE BONUS PROGRAM FOR THE US ONE CHORD, WHICH WAS SET UP TO PROVIDE RIVERWALK ENHANCEMENTS AND RIVERWALK AMENITIES.
THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE FOR THAT IS FOR OTHER RIVERWALK-ASSOCIATED EXPENSES AND EXPANSIONS, ETC.
>> THEY HAVEN'T SETTLED ON A FINAL.
CAN YOU JUST SIT DOWN? THEY HADN'T SETTLED ON THE FINAL AMOUNT YET?
>> NO, THAT'S UNDER STAFF REVIEW CURRENTLY.
>> OH, WAIT. YOU SAID ABOUT BUSH ROAD?
>> YEAH. PART OF THE COUNCIL THAT THE REASON WHY THEY POSTPONED IT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE TWO-YEAR RULE, CORRECT?
>> ABOUT THE PROCESS. NO. THEY DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE TWO-YEAR PROCESS, BUT THEY WENT FORWARD TO CONSIDER THE ITEM AND THE REASON WHY THEY POSTPONED IT WAS DUE TO THEIR CONCERNS WITH PUBLIC BENEFIT.
>> THAT'S HOW I TOOK IT. I GET THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO CLARIFY THE TWO-YEAR RULE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WE'RE GOING TO CLARIFY THE TWO-YEAR RULE BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR INTENT AND WHAT THEY ASKED ME TO DO WAS FOR FUTURE PROJECTS NOT RELATED TO THAT PROJECT.
THAT WAS NOT THEIR INTENT TO HOLD UP SOMEBODY THAT GOT STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF A CODE THAT WAS NOT THAT CLEAR, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ON THE NEW PROPOSALS TOO.
>> TO EXPECT YOU'LL SEE A FUTURE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FOR CLARIFICATIONS. THAT'S IT.
>> I'LL ASSUME THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY DOESN'T HAVE FOR US SINCE HE LEFT.
[LAUGHTER] I GUESS WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:30.
>> THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.