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THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 P.M.AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF TUESDAY JULY 18TH, AND WE'LL
[Call to Order]
BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.SUNDSTROM MALISE: DEAR GOD, ALLOW YOUR WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNDERSTANDING GUIDE TO EACH DECISION TONIGHT TO BENEFIT OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
KURETSKI JIM: JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
KURETSKI JIM: FEMALE_1: MAYOR KURETSKI.
FEMALE_1: VICE MAYOR SCHNEIDER, COUNCILOR DELANEY.
FEMALE_1: COUNCILOR MAY, COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM.
FEMALE_1: TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW.
FEMALE_1: TOWN ATTORNEY BAIRD.
KURETSKI JIM: TONIGHT, WE BEGIN WITH A PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION 6823.
[1. Resolution 68-23]
I TURN IT OVER TO THE TOWN MANAGER OR TO STAFF.KURETSKI JIM: GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TRIM, WHICH STANDS FOR TRUTH IN MILLAGE, AND FOR THE COUNCIL TO SET THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE, THAT WILL GO OUT TO THE RESIDENTS ON THEIR NOTIFICATION IN AUGUST.
WE'VE DISCUSSED THE PROPERTY VALUES AT OUR FIRST WORKSHOP FOR THE BUDGET.
WE HAVE SINCE HAD AN UPDATE ON THAT.
IT WAS A VERY MINOR INCREASE, BUT JUST TO SHOW THE INCREASE OVERALL THAT WE'RE RECEIVING OVER FY-23, IT'S $1.7 BILLION IN AN INCREASE IN THE VALUES OVER FY-23, LOOKING INTO 24.
WHAT'S MADE UP OF THAT IS THERE'S A $68 MILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION, JUST LESS THAN A HALF A PERCENT OF THAT TOTAL, WITH A TOTAL INCREASE IN VALUES OF JUST $1.7 BILLION OR 12.23 PERCENT AND VALUATION INCREASE FOR A TOTAL OF 12.71 PERCENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IS TALK ABOUT THE ROLLBACK RATE AND HOW THE PROPOSED MILLAGE COMPARES TO THE ROLLBACK RATE.
WHEN WE DO THIS CALCULATION, WE'RE CALCULATING 95 PERCENT BY STATUTE.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED FY-24 AT A MILLAGE RATE AT 2.4633, AS WE DISCUSSED IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET, JUST OVER $37 MILLION IN TAXES, ADD VALOREM TAXES AT THE ROLLBACK RATE OF 2.2012.
WE'RE LOOKING AT $33.1 MILLION, A DIFFERENCE OF 3.949799 OVER ROLLBACK.
THAT DIFFERENCE IS 11.91 PERCENT OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE.
WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE VALUES AND WE LOOK AT FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE RATE INCREASE COMPARED TO THE VALUATION INCREASES.
YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS CHART THAT IT HAS A ROLLER COASTER LOOK OVER TIME.
YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE HAD THE RECESSION IN 2008, 2009, AND THEN WE SLOWLY CAME OUT OF THAT, AND THEN WE LEVELED OFF FOR SOME TIME, AND THEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS YOU'VE SEEN THESE EXPONENTIAL INCREASES.
NOTHING LIKE THAT OCCURRED BACK IN 2005, 2006.
BUT STILL WE'VE SEEN SOME INCREASES IN VALUES AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
HOW DOES THE TAX DOLLARS PAID TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER? HOW DOES IT LOOK? WE'VE USED THE $550,000 HOMES AS A BENCHMARK TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTS.
WE ALWAYS LOOK AT THE HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES.
WE ALSO LOOK AT THE NON-HOMESTEAD PROPERTY TO SEE WHAT THOSE INCREASES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE BASED ON THOSE VALUE INCREASES ALONG WITH SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
I'VE SAID IT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO
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UPDATE THIS CHART BECAUSE OF THESE VALUES BEING INCREASED.BUT FOR THE HOMESTEAD PROPERTY, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $41 ANNUAL INCREASE BASED ON THOSE VALUES AND $172,000 INCREASE ON THE 550,000 NON-HOMESTEAD PROPERTY.
JUST TO POINT OUT, THE SAVE OUR HOMES IS IN PLAY, A 3 PERCENT CAP ON THOSE HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES.
ALSO, FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THERE'S A CAP OF 10 PERCENT, SO YOU'LL SEE THERE THE 171 DIFFERENCE IN THE VALUES FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
TONIGHT, AS IN RESOLUTION 68-23, WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THE TRIM RATE WITH A FLAT MILLAGE OF 2.4633.
WE ALSO HAVE THE SMALL AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE AT 0.1330 FOR REPORTING TO THE STATE AND SETTING THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OR FIRST PUBLIC MEETING ON THE BUDGET AT SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023 FOR THAT FIRST HEARING.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM 1.
ANDY WESTON: I KNOW THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART, JIM.
BUT DON'T REDUCE THE MILLAGE RATE, PLEASE.
KURETSKI JIM: THAT'S IT? SUNDSTROM MALISE: THAT WAS IT.
ON THE WORKSHOP, I REQUESTED THAT STAFF LOOK AT NEW LEAD TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE RATE BY 3 PERCENT, WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE SAVE OUR HOMES CAP.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAFF FELT THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE, OR JUST SHARPEN OUR PENCILS AND MAKE NO CHANGES IN THE BUDGET? KURETSKI JIM: WE DID DO THE CALCULATION, MAYOR, AS YOU'RE AWARE, HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THE BUDGET IS ESSENTIALLY $1 MILLION, JUST OVER $1 MILLION IN TOTAL.
BUT THAT WOULD MEAN A REDUCTION OF THE $41 THAT WE JUST OUTLINED FOR THE 3 PERCENT.
WE COULD ESSENTIALLY, IF THE COUNCIL WISH TO GO TO THAT RATE, WE COULD REDUCE THE OPERATING IN THE CIP BUDGET TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, AND THERE WOULD ALSO BE A REDUCTION IN THE CRA BUDGET AS WELL.
KURETSKI JIM: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DELANEY RON: YEAH.
I'VE BEEN PONDERING THAT LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
LAST YEAR LOOKING FORWARD, I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ECONOMIC ISSUES AND THEY'VE BEEN SOMEWHAT.
I'M NOT AS CONCERNED AS I WAS BEFORE.
I THINK AT THIS POINT WITH JUST THE VALUE INCREASES I'D BE, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT A THREE PERCENT DECREASE IN THE MILLAGE RATE.
MALE_1: IT'D BE JUST LIKE I SAID, JUST OVER $1 MILLION IN TOTAL REDUCTION.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED, WE WENT THROUGH AS AN EXERCISE BASED ON THE REQUEST TO LOOK WHERE WE CAN DO THOSE REDUCTIONS GOING FORWARD IF THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THE THREE PERCENT.
I KNOW LAST YEAR I ABSOLUTELY WANTED TO STAY THE SAME.
BUT NOW LOOKING AT OUR VALUATION OF MORE THAN 25 PERCENT OVER TWO YEARS AND JUST OUR PLANNING VERSUS OUR ACTUAL INCREASE THIS YEAR EVALUATION, I DO SEE AND FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I DID LAST YEAR ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK AS A MATTER OF POLICY-MAKING, I WILL GENERALLY NEVER WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE CUTTING THE MILLAGE IN A TRIM MEETING THIS EARLY.
WE DO HAVE A LOT OF VARIABLES.
I WOULD WANT TO WAIT JUST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I KNOW WE'RE WAITING ON INFORMATION FROM THE STATE, BUT I CERTAINLY AM MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT THAN I WAS LAST YEAR.
IF YOU LOOK ACROSS ALL IT'S NEVER JUST THE MILLAGE RATE, IT'S ALL TAXES, ALL FEES, ALL MILLAGE, EVERYTHING.
ACROSS THAT, WE DO SEE INCREASES IN THE WATER.
THIS CAN HELP PROVIDE RELIEF FOR THAT.
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I MEAN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS I'M THINKING ABOUT.I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO IT NOW, BUT I DO WANT TO SIGNAL THAT IT IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY SINCE READING ABOUT THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE.
THEIR MEETING RECENTLY, THEIR BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE AND JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
I'M DEFINITELY THINKING ABOUT.
MALE_1: WE ARE ASKING THIS EVENING ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COUNCIL TO SET THE UPCOMING WORKSHOP FOR THE CIP ON THE TENTH.
WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THOSE NUMBERS BACK TO SHOW HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THE BUDGET OVERALL, NOT JUST THE OPERATING BUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS WELL.
KURETSKI JIM: I KNOW THAT JUST TO COMMENT ON THIS AS WELL.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IN A TOWN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER REDUCED IT AT THE TRIM AND UNDERSTAND IT.
WE CAN SAY THAT WE CAN DO IT LATER AND WE CAN.
I JUST THINK THAT THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN EXTRAORDINARY AND IMPACTS TO THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO INFLATION BEING THE WORST IN FOUR DECADES AND WHATEVER.
IF THE EVALUATION HAD COME IN THREE PERCENT LESS INCREASE, NOT ONE OF US WOULD BE INCREASED IN THE TAX RATE.
I THINK I'M WILLING AND SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING TO TRIM THREE PERCENT LOWER BECAUSE I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN AS MAKING SURE WE'RE MANAGING FISCALLY LIKE OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES HAVE TO DO SO I WOULD.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: I WANT TO SAY I TEND TO LIKE A STEADY MILLAGE RATE.
I LOVE HOW LONG WE'VE HELD ONTO IT.
I TEND TO WANT THAT TO BE STEADY, BUT OUR ECONOMY HAS BEEN MORE STEADY IN THE PAST.
I THINK WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING, WHICH IS EXTRAORDINARY.
I'M ALWAYS LOOKING TO CUT IT, AND WE'VE BEEN HOLDING FIRM IF IT, WAS IT 2.433? THE VALUE HAS BEEN INCREASING EXPONENTIALLY.
I JUST THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE THROW SOMETHING BACK BECAUSE, WE'VE BEEN REAPING BENEFITS OF THE FUNDS AND WE'RE DOING IT, IMPROVING THE TAIL.
I THINK AT THE POINT WE REALLY GOT TO MAYBE TAKE A BREATH AND JUST TAKE A LITTLE.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: I AM SYMPATHETIC, YEAH.
I JUST WANTED TO GET THROUGH GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, LOOK AT OUR CIP, LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT VARIABLES AND SEE WHERE WE LAND.
KURETSKI JIM: SECOND THE MOTION.
DELANEY RON: WE'RE NOT SETTING THE RATE.
KURETSKI JIM: THAT'S THE POINT OF THE TRIM.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: IS THE MOTION TO APPROVE A TRIM RATE OF 2.4633.
KURETSKI JIM: WELL, THE MOTION WILL BE MADE, BUT WHAT WE DO AND WE'RE SETTING THE TRIM RATE, WHICH IS THE RATE THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO THE PUBLIC.
DELANEY RON: BUT WE CAN REDUCE IT LATER, CORRECT? KURETSKI JIM: YOU CAN REDUCE IT LATER.
DELANEY RON: YOU WANTED TO APPROVE THE CURRENT TRIM.
IS IT, IT'S USUALLY WHAT WE DO, CORRECT? KURETSKI JIM: WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE THAT.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF LONGER THREE PERCENT.
DELANEY RON: MOTION TO SET A TREND OF A THREE PERCENT REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR'S.
KURETSKI JIM: SECOND, WE'LL USE A CHAIR NOW.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: NOW I'M THE CHAIR? KURETSKI JIM: I CAN'T MAKE US.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: [LAUGHTER] MALISE: WE HAVE QUESTIONS AND DELIBERATIONS.
KURETSKI JIM: THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, WE CALL IN THE VOTE.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: I'M CALLING THE VOTE.
NO DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION? KURETSKI JIM: WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND ASSESS IT.
DELANEY RON: DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: WITH TWO IT PASSES.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: [LAUGHTER] MALISE: ALL IN FAVOR? KURETSKI JIM: AYE.
TWO TO ONE WITH THE COUNSELOR SUNDSTROM OPPOSED.
WE DON'T NEED TO READ IT, CORRECT? MOVING ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THIS IS THE TIME FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES.ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IS ASKED TO STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PRIVATE ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? FEMALE_2: YES, YOU HAVE TWO.
FIRST IS GOING TO BE ERIC WAY AND THEN ANDY WESTON.
MALE_2: GOOD EVENING TOWN COUNCIL.
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ERIC WHITES AT 230 OCEAN GRAND BOULEVARD JUPITER.A COUPLE OF YEARS, I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN A WHILE AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I CAME HERE TO ASK FOR MORE HANDICAPPED ACCESS RAMPS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ME, BUT ANYWAY, I WOULD JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
THERE ARE MORE HANDICAP RAMPS OUT THERE.
HANDICAPPED OR SENIOR CITIZENS THAT CAN'T MAKE THE STAIRS OR PEOPLE WITH THEIR BEACH EQUIPMENT AND CARTS ARE GOING DOWN THE RAMPS.
THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL TOWNSHIP AND I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I LOOK AT THESE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES HERE ADDED ON THE BOTTOM.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO BRING UP, I KNOW IT'S ACCOUNTING ISSUE, BUT I'M A RESIDENT AND WHAT'S BUGGING ME IS THE NEW LIGHTS, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING LIGHTS THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED ALONG A1A.
NOW I HAVE TO ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I ALMOST GOT RUN OVER MYSELF.
JUST AS IT'S GETTING DARK, I'M WALKING ACROSS THE STREET WITH MY DOG AND I'M ON THE CROSSWALK AND I'M ASSUMING SOMEBODY IS GOING TO STOP, AND THE PICKUP TRUCK COMES BY WITH A COUPLE THERE AND A KID IN THE BACK SEAT AND THEY'RE NOT STOPPING, THEY'RE SLOWING DOWN, SO I DRAGGED THE DOG ACROSS WITH ME TO GET OFF THE STREET.
I WAS SCARED, AND THEN THE CAR FINALLY STOPPED.
SO NOW WHEN I CROSS THE STREET, I RAISE MY HAND, MAKE SURE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CAR SEES ME WHEN I'M CROSSING.
I APPRECIATE WHAT IS BEING DONE AND I KNOW IT'S A COUNTY EFFORT TO INSTALL THOSE LIGHTS, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I'M AN ENGINEER AND I THINK THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A MORE ELEGANT WAY TO DO THIS WORK.
YOU'VE GOT LIGHTS, TWO LIGHTS.
I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOLAR-POWERED.
SO THEY PROBABLY WON'T WORK AT NIGHT AND DISTURB THE TURTLES.
BUT THEY GOT TWO LIGHTS ON THERE AND IT REMINDS ME WHEN I GO INTO SOME RURAL AREAS THERE'LL BE A MAILBOX AND SOMEBODY WILL PUT UP AN EXTRA MAILBOX 15 FEET UP AND IT SAYS AIR MAIL.
THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE ELEGANT USAGE OF THE DESIGN, BUT IT'S THE SAME LIGHTS GOING UP EVERYWHERE.
SO THE LAST PLACE WHEN I CROSS AND OF COURSE IT'S HOT DURING MY WALKS, IS UNDER SOME TREES THAT ARE HANGING OVER THE SIDEWALK, SO WHILE I'M WAITING FOR THE TRAFFIC TO COME BY SURE ENOUGH THE TREE WAS BLOCKING THE HIGH LIGHT AND TONIGHT WHEN I DROVE BY THERE IT'S CUT, SO I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO CUT THE TREE LIMBS THERE.
THIS IS A PREMIER STREET IN JUPITER TOWNSHIP AND A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THERE.
I JUST WISHED HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER EXECUTION OF THOSE.
AND THEN YOU GOT TO SIGNS, BIG SIGNS AT EVERY CROSSING AND WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN THE STREET I MEAN YOU CAN SEE BOOM, BOOM, SO I THINK THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER EXECUTION OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO TO CALL IT THE COUNTY, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THIS IS OUR TOWNSHIP AND JUST LOOK AT THESE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES HERE.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD MAINTAIN.
ANDY WESTON: I HOPE YOU'RE NOT VIEWING ME AS A BROKEN RECORD BY THIS TIME.
SO WE HAD A MEETING WEDNESDAY NIGHT ON THE 12 AND THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN PUSHING ME OUT HERE SHOWED UP, SO WE HAD 20 HOMES OF THE 38 REPRESENTED IN NUMBER 28 FOLKS THERE BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT THEIR FRIENDS OR SPOUSES AND THEY'RE QUITE VOCAL.
I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING.
THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU ABOUT AND THEY'RE STILL THERE.
I DRAG OUT SOME OF THE STUFF BACK FROM 2002, AND I EMAILED THAT TO YOU LAST NIGHT, WHERE THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET THIS ROAD FIXED.
NOW I SENT FRANCA AN EMAIL AND I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED WITH COMPARATIVE THAT YOU
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CAME UP WITH THIS MANGROVE DEAL.WHAT'S WRONG WITH ELSA ROAD? THAT IS A COMPARATIVE.
ALMOST THE SAME NUMBER, ALMOST THE SAME LENGTH OF THE ROAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
THE SAME NUMBER OF RESIDENCES ON THE ROAD, SAME VALUES, SAME PROPERTY TAXES, EVERYTHING.
YOU TOOK IT UP, PUT THE WATER IN AND THEN YOU PUT DRAINAGE IN AND YOU REPAVED THE ROAD.
AND YOU DIDN'T CHARGE ANYBODY ANYTHING.
I THINK THAT WAS IN 2018 AND I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS MANGROVE THING.
IT'S NOT COMPARATIVE, ELSA ROAD IS.
I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF MAYBE WE CAN SIT DOWN.
I THINK THERE IS A CODE THAT APPLIES HERE.
THE 1992 CODE AND IT'S ALSO STATE LAW I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE IGNORING THE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE YOU PUT IN OVER 50 PERCENT OF THE VALUE OF THAT IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO UPGRADE THE CODE.
SO TO BE CONTINUED, HOPE TO KEEP THIS DIALOGUE OPEN, BUT I DON'T THINK HE CAN PUT THAT WATER IN UNLESS YOU'RE DOING A ROAD.
MOVING ON TO THE MINUTES, WE HAVE BEFORE US THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20TH AND 22ND
[2. June 20, 2023 Town Council Meeting Minutes and June 22, 2023 Town Council Workshop Meeting Minutes.]
TOWN COUNCIL MEETING AND WORKSHOP.I DIDN'T SEE ANY COLLECTIONS ON THE DASH, NO CORRECTION IS GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.
KURETSKI JIM: MOTION IN A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, THIS IS ITEMS 3 THROUGH 13.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO PULL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM? FEMALE_3: NO MAYOR.DELANEY RON: OH, I WANT TO PULL NUMBER 3.
KURETSKI JIM: NUMBER 3? KURETSKI JIM: I WANT TO PULL NUMBER 3.
WITH THAT, WHAT I NORMALLY DO.
THE REVISED CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEMS 4-13.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION ON THE AMENDED CONSENT AGENDA? SUNDSTROM MALISE: MOTION TO APPROVE.
KURETSKI JIM: MOTION IN A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
KURETSKI JIM: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 3-0.
GOING BACK TO THE ITEM PULLED, ITEM 3, THE ORDINANCE 1523.
[3. Ordinance 15-23, First Reading]
FIRST READING.I'LL TURN IT OVER FIRST TO COUNSELOR.
DELANEY RON: JUST DUE TO THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS ORDINANCE, WE'RE MISSING TWO COUNSELORS.
I THINK IS APPROPRIATE THAT EVERYBODY'S HERE TO VOTE ON THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS AND BY THE DIRECTIVE OF THE COUNCIL, HAVE THE TIME AND YOU PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
KURETSKI JIM: I WOULD HAVE LIKEWISE ASKED THAT IT'D BE TABLED.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THE TOWN MANAGER TO UPDATE THE INFORMATION WE HAD EARLIER IN THE YEAR SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT IT'S OUR INTENTION TO INCREASE IT TO 10 YEARS OR SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE ACTION.
I'D LIKE THE TOWN MANAGER TO DO THAT.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: TOWN MANAGER, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT DECISION? FRANK KITZEROW: THERE IS NO TIMELINE ON THIS MSTU EXTENSION.
THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION.
AS WE PUT FORWARD, THE ONLY TIMELINE YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT IS THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S HERE, WE WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE OF THE COUNTY BY THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY MEETINGS UNTIL THEN.
WE COULD TABLE THE MSTU UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, AUGUST 3RD?
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IS THAT RIGHT? KURETSKI JIM: I THINK THE CONVERSATION WAS TO TABLE IT NOT TO CONTINUE WITH TO DATE CERTAINED.I THINK BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE ASKED INFORMATION I WANT FROM THE TOWN MANAGER, THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK.
DELANEY RON: I WON'T BE HERE ON THE 3RD.
DELANEY RON: PROBABLY, I'M NOT GETTING HOME FOR VACATION ON THAT DAY.
THOMAS BAIRD: JUST SUPER CLEAR MANNER, A MOTION TO TABLE, AND HOW MUCH WAS MEANS THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.
THE ITEM IS TABLED UNTIL THERE'S A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE.
THERE HAVE TO BE AN UPCOMING MEETING THAT SOMEONE WOULD MOVE TO REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE TABLE.
THOMAS BAIRD: THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM A MOTION TO POSTPONE AN ITEM.
KURETSKI JIM: YOU HAVE A MOTION.
DELANEY RON: MOTION TO TABLE ORDINANCE 1523 ON FIRST READING.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: ARE WE PREPARING AN ITEM OR? I'M CONFUSED.
DELANEY RON: NO, WE'RE JUST TABLING IT TEMPORARILY THEN WE'LL INSTRUCT THE TOWN MANAGER TO BRING IT BACK AT A FUTURE DATE.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: TOWN MANAGER, ARE YOU CLEAR ON WHAT WE NEED? FRANK KITZEROW: I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU EXPECT ME TO BRING BACK.
IS IT THE ICMA REPORT, IS IT UPDATED NUMBERS, BUDGETS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THAT.
KURETSKI JIM: I'M JUST LOOKING FOR UPDATED INFORMATION ON WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US BEFORE.
KURETSKI JIM: WHATEVER IN YOUR JUDGMENT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, IF ANYTHING.
FRANK KITZEROW: I DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING CURRENTLY, THAT'S ALL.
JUST SO I'M CLEAR, AS WELL AS I'M BRINGING THIS BACK, I GUESS I'VE TEST TOWN ATTORNEY, WILL WE BRING THIS ITEM BACK IN THE FUTURE OR AM I BRINGING IT BACK AS IT? KURETSKI JIM: I'M NOT GIVING YOU TONIGHT WITH THREE OF US HERE.
IS I'M ASKING YOU TO WORK ON IT, I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE WE WILL ADDRESS IN SEPTEMBER AND MY THOUGHTS ARE IN TABLING IT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE THE NEXT MEETING, AND IT WOULD TAKE AS TOWN ATTORNEY MENTIONED, A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK.
YOU COULD KEEP US ADVISED ON THE EFFORT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GET UPDATED INFORMATION AND DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND IT 10 YEARS TO 10 YEARS OR NOT.
SUNDSTROM MALISE: BUT WE DO HAVE PRECIOUS LITTLE TIME, SO I SUPPORT BRINGING BACK AND CONFIRMING THE ICMA REPORT.
THEN IF WE NEED TO PREPARE AN ITEM DOWN THE LINE, WE NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
KURETSKI JIM: WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE.
KURETSKI JIM: MOTION IN A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOMAS BAIRD: AYE KURETSKI JIM: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
WITH THAT, MOVING ON TO REPORTS.
[TOWN ATTORNEY]
THOMAS BAIRD: YES.IN REPORTING A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE TWO, IT'S BROUGHT BY VOYAGE RECOVERY CENTER, AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS WAS BROUGHT IN FEDERAL COURT.
VOYAGE RECOVERY IS A RECOVERY BUSINESS.
THEY PRESENTLY ARE ONLY LICENSED FOR COUNSELING AT THEIR LOCATION.
WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE THEY GOT A ZONING CONFIRMATION LETTER FROM STAFF.
THEY CAME BACK EARLIER THIS YEAR AND ASKED FOR A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE EIGHT RESIDENTIAL UNITS ALONG WITH THERE COUNSELING SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THEIR CURRENT LOCATION.
UNDER THE ZONING CODE, THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED A LICENSED PROVIDER IF THEY ADD THE RECOVERY RESIDENCES, AND THAT'S NOT PERMITTED IN THE C2 ZONING DISTRICT.
THEY ASKED FOR A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION, MEANING THEY WANT THE TOWN TO ACTUALLY ADD THAT AS A USE TO C2.
WE WENT THROUGH AN ANALYSIS AND WE SAID THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
THESE USES ARE PERMITTED IN C3.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED, YOU SHOULD HAVE SORT THAT PARTICULAR USE IN A ZONING DISTRICT THAT ACCOMMODATE IT BECAUSE THEIR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WITH STAFF DID NOT SUGGEST.
IN FACT, IT WAS JUST THE OPPOSITE.
THEY SAID, WE DON'T INTEND TO HAVE DETOX AND WE DON'T INTEND TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL THERE.
CASE HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN FEDERAL COURT.
WE FORWARDED THE CASE TO OUR INSURANCE CARRIER, AND THE CARRIER HAS SIGNED RAYMOND
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REYNOLDS LAW FIRM TO DEFEND THE CASE.[TOWN MANAGER]
FRANK KITZEROW: THANK YOU, MAYOR.JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
MR. WESTON HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE CONDUCTED THE MEETING WITH THE DOLPHIN DRIVE RESIDENTS AND I'D LIKE TO THANK AMANDA BARNES AND THE STAFF OUT OF UTILITIES FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER, AND OUR ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER WAS THERE AS WELL AS ON WITH COMMUNICATIONS FOLKS.
WE FILED THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTIONS.
I MET WITH MR. WESTON PRIOR TO THAT MEETING TO GO OVER THE INFORMATION THAT WAS OBTAINED AS A RESULT OF THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION AND ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE THROUGH OUR UTILITIES FOLKS.
THEN WENT DOWN, THEY HAD THE MEETING.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE OVER AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
HIS RIGHT HAD A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE.
UNOFFICIALLY, WE'RE STILL GETTING EMAILS, BUT TRYING TO GET THE PULSE OF THE COMMUNITY THERE, AND WE HAD TO THIS DATE, 14 NO'S, FOUR YESES AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR FIVE OF THE MOST IMPACTED RESIDENCES OR RESIDENTS TO GET BACK TO US.
I HADN'T HEARD THAT YET, WHAT THEIR INTEREST IS, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AND CERTAINLY I'LL CONTINUE TO MEET WITH MR. WESTON TO ADDRESS HIS CONCERNS FROM THIS EVENING.
THEN, THE SECOND PIECE OF INFORMATION, JUST FOR YOU ALL, I KNOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE ROGER DEAN SITE PLAN AND IN THAT WHOLE PROCESS, BUT WE DID GO AHEAD AND ISSUE THE DEMOLITION PERMITS FOR THE MARLINS AND CARDINALS CLUBHOUSES.
WE WILL DO THAT FROM TIME-TO-TIME.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECT AND ARE LOOKING CLOSELY AT THE TIMELINE FOR NEXT SPRING TRAINING, SO THAT ITEM IS WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW.
KURETSKI JIM: I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT ONE.
I KNOW IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SAID, BUT I'LL SAY IT ANYWAY.
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.
I BELIEVE IN THE STAFF TO WORK THAT THROUGH.
BUT IF IT REALLY EVEN CAME DOWN TO IT, THEY SAY IT WAS GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE RETURN TO SPRING IN TIME FOR SPRING BASEBALL.
I'M OKAY EVEN WITH A SPECIAL MEETING IF WE NEEDED TO DO THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT SOUNDS LIKE MY COLLEAGUES ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE ANSWER.
I KNOW THE WAY STAFF IS WORKING ON IT.
THAT'S ALREADY UNDERSTOOD BY BASEBALL, BUT WE ALWAYS WANT TO SET THEM THAT MESSAGE, INCLUDING FROM US UP HERE IN THE DAIS.
FRANK KITZEROW: THAT'S IT, MAYOR.
KURETSKI JIM: COUNSELOR, DELANEY.
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DELANEY RON: NO.KURETSKI JIM: COUNSELOR, SUNDSTROM.
THE TIME IS NOW 7:33 AND WE
WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.