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>> [BACKGROUND] GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 P.M,
[Call to Order]
AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF JUNE 6TH.WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN THE PLEDGE, IF YOU ALL ARISE, PLEASE.
>> DEAR GOD, HELP US TO CONTINUE TO GROW IN WISDOM SO THAT WE MAY BE BETTER EQUIPPED TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, AMEN.
LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> MADAM, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
>> COUNSELOR MAY. COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM.
[1. Code Enforcement Appreciation week - June 5-9, 2023 – Mr. Chris Ailes, Code Compliance Manager. #]
WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION.IT'S CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS WEEK AND NOW GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS PROCLAMATION TO CHRIS ELLIS.
I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER CODE COMPLIANCE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
BUT THIS SUB-POPULATION OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA, DECLARING THE WEEK OF JUNE 5TH-9TH, 2023 AS CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS APPRECIATION WEEK.
WHEREAS CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS PROVIDE FOR THE SAFETY, HEALTH, AND WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THE ENFORCEMENT OF BUILDING, ZONING, HOUSING, FIRE SAFETY, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND OTHER CODES AND ORDINANCES.
WHEREAS CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS ARE OFTEN NOT CREDITED FOR THE JOBS THEY DO IN SAVING LIVES AND IMPROVING NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHEREAS EVERY DAY ASSISTED BY SUPPORTING PROGRAM STAFF, THEY ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
WHEREAS TOO MANY TIMES YOUR REFERENCE GO UNNOTICED, EVEN AFTER CODE COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED DUE TO THEIR EFFORTS AND EXPERTISE.
WHEREAS CODE COMPONENTS OFFICERS ARE DEDICATED, WELL-TRAINED, AND HIGHLY RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS WHO TAKE YOUR JOB SERIOUSLY AND ARE PROUD OF THEIR DEPARTMENT AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT WITHIN WHICH THEY SERVE.
WHEREAS FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS DECLARED THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE TO BE SET ASIDE BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THEIR CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS.
NOW THEREFORE, I, JIM KURETSKI, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA, DO YOU HEAR WHAT TISSUE THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE JUPITER TOWN COUNCIL AND DO PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF JUNE 5TH-9TH AS CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER APPRECIATION WEEK AND WITNESS THEREOF, I HAVE HERE ON TO SET MY HAND AND SHIELD THE 6TH DAY OF JUNE 2023. [APPLAUSE].
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M CHRIS ELLIS, CODE COMPLIANT SUPERVISOR.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK MY TEAM FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO THIS TOWN.
WITHOUT THEM, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE IN A LOT DIFFERENT PLACE.
THESE GUYS ARE SO BEYOND DEDICATED TO MAKING SURE THAT THEY MAINTAIN THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE.
THE SMALL TOWN FEEL THAT JUPITER HAS.
ALSO, I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CODE OF MY INSTIVISION.
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>> WE'LL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS AND CITIZENS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
ANY WISHING TO SPEAK IS ASKED TO STATE HIS OR HER NAME FOR THE RECORD AND ADDRESS PRIOR TO ADDRESSING TOWN COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> SEEING NONE AND MOVE IT ALONG.
[2. May 16, 2023 Town Council Meeting Minutes]
WE HAD BEFORE US THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 16TH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, ALONG WITH SOME REVISIONS ON THE DICE.ANY ADDITIONAL REVISIONS OR I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THIS IS ITEM 3-11 ON THE AGENDA.IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTED TO PULL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?
>> WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT,
[3. Ordinance 9-23, Second Reading, Ritz Carlton]
WHICH IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ORDINANCE 923, SECOND READING.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES TO MAKE? I HAVE NONE.
>> SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'LL ASK TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ ORDINANCE 923 ON SHORT TITLE.
>> ORDINANCE NUMBER 923 AND ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL TO TOWN OF THE JUPITER, FLORIDA PRESENTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE RITZ-CARLTON PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROVIDING FOR A WAIVER TO THE UNIT TYPE IN THE R1 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW GUEST COTTAGE AS AN ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNIT.
I'M NOT GOING TO WRINKLE THAT TWO OF PART A AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12,
[12.Resolution 30-23, Christ Fellowship - Quasi-judicial - Special Exception Application and Site Plan Amendment to change the use from Indoor Recreation to Church for a 20,316 Sq. Ft. existing building located at 1200 West Indiantown Road located on 2.03 ± acres.]
RESOLUTION 30-23. QUITE FELLOWSHIP.DOES ANYBODY ON COUNCIL HAVE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES?
>> JUST THE WRITING EMAILS FROM THE PUBLIC COUNCIL.
>> I SPOKE WITH STAFF BRIEFLY.
>> LIKEWISE, QUITE A FEW EMAILS.
WITH THAT, I WILL ASK THOSE PREPARED TO GIVE TESTIMONY AT THE HEARING TO STAND AND BE SWORN IN.
>> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS HEARING IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> I SHOULD EXPLAIN THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN.
>> HERE WE GO. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR THE RECORD, DONALDSON HEARING WITH KOTLER AND HEARING HERE ON BEHALF OF CHRIST FELLOWSHIP CHURCH TONIGHT.
I HAD MR. LEE WEBB DELLA, REPRESENTATIVE FROM CHRIST FELLOWSHIP IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, MR. ADAM CURL WITH KEN LAY OWEN, AND A NUMBER OF WONDERFUL FRIENDS HERE IN SUPPORT.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CHRIST FELLOWSHIP JUPITER, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A HOME IN JUPITER FOR, I THINK PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS.
WE LOOKED AT MULTITUDES OF SITES.
WE'RE SO EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
CHRIST FELLOWSHIP, THE MAIN CAMPUS IS LOCATED IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
IT WAS STARTED BY THE MULLINS' FAMILY.
COACH MULLINS AND RIGHT THERE ON NORTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND HAS GROWN TO BE A REGIONAL INFLUENCER HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
THEY HAVE CAMPUSES FROM BOCA RATON TO THE SOUTH AND NORTH TO INDIAN RIVER COUNTY AND VERO BEACH,
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AND ALL THE WAY OUT WEST TO VERO BEACH.IT MIGHT BE A LARGE CHURCH, BUT WE MEET IN MANY DIFFERENT PLACES.
THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I'M A MEMBER OF CHRIST FELLOWSHIP AND HAVE ATTENDED FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND RAISE MY FAMILY THERE.
FOR YEARS, WE'VE DRIVEN DOWN TO PALM BEACH GARDENS, EVERY SUNDAY OR IF IT WAS SATURDAY, EVERY SATURDAY.
IT'S SO NICE NOW TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE RIGHT HERE IN JUPITER.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE CURRENTLY MEETING WITHIN THE WYNDHAM GRAND OVER AT THE HARBOR SIDE, WE MEET THERE.
WITH THIS ON THE SCREEN THERE IS PASTOR ETHAN SHOCKLEY AND HIS WONDERFUL WIFE ERIN, OUR CAMPUS PASTOR THAT'S HERE LOCALLY.
THE WYNDHAM GRAND HAS BEEN GREAT, BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORK SETTING UP EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY AND THEN TAKING DOWN.
SO WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE INTO WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE JUPITER FITNESS SITE RIGHT HERE ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
IT'S A PART OF WHAT WE CALL THE JUPITER CREEK SUBDIVISION, WHICH IN GENERAL IS ABOUT 11 ACRES OR 12 ACRES IN TOTAL SIZE AND IT IS WITHIN THE C-2 COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN THAT YOU HAVE CHURCHES THAT ACTUALLY WITHIN A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT ARE NOT ALONE, THE MOST INTENSIVE DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE TOWN.
MANY OF THEM ARE OFTEN WITHIN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AS THEY'RE CONSIDERED AN ALLOWABLE SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE IN BOTH OF THOSE.
THE EXISTING USE OF THE SITE BEING THE JUPITER JIM, IS INDOOR RECREATION AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A CHURCH.
O THE EXISTING USES OF FITNESS OR EXERCISE, THE PROPOSED USE WILL BE FITNESS OR EXERCISE.
THERE'S JUST GOING TO EXERCISE THE HEART, MIND, AND THE SOUL.
A LOT OF SIMILARITIES THERE TO TALK ABOUT.
FROM THE TABULAR DATA SIDE, THE CHURCH WILL HAVE 368 SEATS.
IT'S ABOUT 20,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
YOU MIGHT THINK THAT'S LARGE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE SMALLEST SATELLITE CHURCHES THAT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP HAS.
THE FACILITY IN PALM BEACH GARDENS ON WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE NORTH CAMPUS, IT IS WELL NORTH OF 200,000 SQUARE FEET AND OUR OTHER FACILITIES TO THE NORTH BEING IN STEWART, IS OVER 50,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE FACILITY WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED IN THE CITY OF WESTLAKE, WHICH OPENED UP ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO IS ABOUT 38,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND MUCH LARGER IN TERMS OF CAPACITY OF 800.
THIS IS A SMALLER SATELLITE FACILITY AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE STEWART CAMPUS AND THE MAIN CAMPUS IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, THAT THIS FACILITY IS THAT THE DEMAND WITHDRAWAL IS MORE LIMITED BECAUSE OF THAT REQUIREMENT.
WE HAVE 92 PARKING SPACES WHICH ARE REQUIRED FOR THE ASSEMBLY SPACE, PLUS 20 FOR THE REMAINING AREA THAT WE HAVE IN THE SITE, SO WE HAVE 112 SPACES ON-SITE AND WE'RE UTILIZING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE WE ARE A PART OF A OVERALL COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ALL INTERCONNECTED, AND WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE, SHOULD WE NEED TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL PARKING FROM OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST.
I BELIEVE MR. KOTLER IS HERE THIS EVENING AND WILL LIKELY SAY A FEW WORDS ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION.
SERVICE TIMES ARE 9:30 IN THE MORNING AND 11 AM.
THAT'S THE CURRENT SERVICE TIMES AT THE WINDHAM IN AN HARBOR SIDE.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 250 PEOPLE IN EACH OF THOSE SERVICES.
THEN ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, THERE IS A STUDENT PROGRAM, SO IT'S A VERY RELATIVELY SMALL PROGRAMS. STUDENTS ARRIVE AROUND 6 O'CLOCK AND THEY LEAVE AT 9, BUT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM FOR OUR YOUTH.
WE'RE CURRENTLY MEETING HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO MEET THAT NEED AND CERTAINLY THAT JUPITER FITNESS SITE WILL PROVIDE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY WORK WITH OUR YOUTH.
IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO REACH THEM AT THIS PARTICULAR YOUNG AGE BECAUSE IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
MR. KURETSKI, MR. MAYOR, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST TRAFFIC MITIGATION PROJECTS I'VE BROUGHT TO YOU.
REDUCTION IN 56 PEAK PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS.
THAT'S BECAUSE FITNESS IS A VERY HEAVY USER OF WATER IN AND OUT,
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AND THAT'S ABOUT A 500 AVERAGE DAILY TRIP REDUCTION.THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE ON WEDNESDAY ARE OFF PEAK AND OUR SERVICES ON SUNDAY OR ON A WEEKEND, SO ALSO NOT ON A PEAK.
WE'VE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY IN EVALUATING THAT WITH YOUR STAFF AND I'LL WALK THROUGH THAT IN A LITTLE BIT IF I CAN.
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THE SITE IS AND YOU ALL KNOW WHERE IT IS ON SOUTH SIDE OF INDIANTOWN ROAD, JUST WEST OF PENNOCK, AND EAST OF DELAWARE.
THIS IS OUR 2.03 ACRE SITE WHICH IS A PART OF THE JUPITER CREEK CONDOMINIUM OR COMMERCIAL CENTER, AND THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TWO LOTS AND IT HAD BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE AND BUILT OUT AS THE FITNESS CENTER.
THERE'S THE OVERALL JUPITER CREEK SITE AND THEN OUR TWO ACRE SITE THAT'S THERE.
THIS REQUEST IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND YOUR CODE HAS A NUMBER OF CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE MET FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO BE APPROVED.
WE HAVE REVIEWED EACH OF THESE AND YOUR STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT WE HAVE SATISFIED EVERY CRITERION OF THE CODE REQUIRED FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
WE'RE PLEASED TO SAY THAT WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, ALL THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT EXIST.
WE ALSO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS.
VERY MINOR CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO THE EXISTING SITE THAT IT EXISTS TODAY.
WE'RE DOING SOME ADA MODIFICATIONS TO BECOME MORE IN COMPLIANT WITH CURRENT DAY ADA STANDARDS.
WE WILL BE DOING EXTENSIVE INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE A SANCTUARY, AS WELL AS OTHER SUPPORT FACILITIES.
WE`LL BE DOING A FRESH COAT OF PAINT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR POA.
THEN SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVE LANDSCAPING, INCLUDING A SUBSTANTIALLY INCLUDE BUFFER ADJACENT TO OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH OF US.
THERE'S AN EXISTING WALL THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF EXISTING TREES, BUT THERE'S SOME EXOTIC VEGETATION AS WELL, AND SO WE'RE GOING IN THERE AND WE WILL BE REPLACING A GOOD BIT OF THAT EXOTIC VEGETATION WITH NEW NATIVE VEGETATION IN THAT AREA.
AS WELL AS REALLY ENHANCING THIS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. COLIN FIRTH WHO HAD TOLD ME THAT HE'S NOT AWARE OF A DOLLAR BEING SPENT ON THIS BUILDING OR THIS SITE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
THIS IS HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED, LANDSCAPING HAS HAD GONE DOWN, SO THIS WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT.
EVERYTHING THAT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP DOES, EVERYTHING IS DONE WITH ABSOLUTE EXCELLENCE.
THE SAME THING NOT ONLY BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BUT MAINTAINING THE FACILITY AND MAKING IT SPECTACULAR.
ALL THE FACILITIES THAT WE'VE HAD THE HONOR TO WORK WITH CHRIST FELLOWSHIP ON OVER THE YEARS ARE LUSHLY LANDSCAPED AND JUST BEAUTIFUL AND VERY, VERY WELL MAINTAINED.
WE THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE DID WORK WITH YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STAFF TO EVALUATE TRAFFIC AND HOW WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH OUR EXITING.
PEOPLE IN THE MORNING OF COURSE THEY COME AT A MORE OF A STAGGERED TIME, BUT THERE TENDS TO BE MORE PEOPLE LEAVING AT ONE TIME.
WE ANALYZE THIS, I WOULD SAY AT NAUSEATOM TO ADAPT REALLY AT A VERY CRITICAL LEVEL OF ANALYSIS.
WE WORKED WITH YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO HAVE RECOMMENDED FOR NORMAL SERVICES TO HAVE BASICALLY A RIGHT OUT MOVEMENT.
IN OTHER WORDS, NOT TO ALLOW FOR LEFT TURNING MOVEMENTS AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE FACILITY.
THAT WORKS FINE BECAUSE I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT WE CALL A HEAT MAP OF OUR CHURCH FAMILIES.
MOST OF THEM ARE TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH.
THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD LEAVE WOULD BE TO GO TO PENNOCK, YOU EITHER GO NORTH ON PENNOCK OR TO GO SOUTH ON PENNOCK.
IF YOU'RE GOING BACK TO ABACOA OR TO EGRET LANDING, OR IF YOU'RE CONTINUING EAST, YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO THE EAST.
WE'LL HAVE A RIGHT IN OR RIGHT OUT EXITING PROGRAM AT OUR EXITS.
THE SITE IS FAIRLY PERVIOUS. WE HAVE TWO EXITS.
RIGHT ON TO INDIANTOWN ROAD AND THEN OVER AT COLLUSIVE HATCHERY, THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO AN EXIT.
WE AT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP HAVE A VERY WELL ORGANIZED AND ORCHESTRATED PARKING TEAM THAT HELPS OUR FAMILIES AND NEW FOLKS WHO MIGHT BE VISITING NOT ONLY PARK, BUT ALSO TO EXIT THE FACILITY, AND SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH GREAT EXCELLENCE.
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IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR 20 YEARS.THERE'S CERTAINLY MUCH LARGER THERE.
WE WORKED VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND CITY TO ORCHESTRATE AND TO COORDINATE HOW WE BOTH ENTER AND EXIT THE SITE, AND THERE ARE NO COMPLAINTS.
THERE, OF COURSE, THERE'S OVER 2,500 SEATS PLUS OTHER ANCILLARY FACILITIES, SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT THERE WITH EXCELLENT.
WE DO THAT TODAY AT HARBOR SIDE AND WE CAN DO THAT HERE ON SITE.
THIS IS JUST A LITTLE HEAT MAP OF OUR CHURCH FAMILY.
THE MAJORITY IS TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE NORTH, AND SO IT WORKED VERY, VERY WELL FOR THE FLOW.
THERE ARE A FEW TO THE WEST, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS TO OCCUR.
THE AREA JUST GIVES YOU A SETTING OF THE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS THE SITE.
MOST PEOPLE WILL HEAD EASTERN INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THEY'LL GO TO PENNOCK, IF THEY'RE GOING SAY EVEN WEST TO GO TO THE SHORE IS THEY'LL GO NORTH TO CENTER STREET AND THEN THEY'LL GO WEST TO GO THAT WAY.
TO GO FURTHER, THEY WILL TAKE A LEFT TO GO BACK WEST, OR IF THEY'RE GOING EAST, THEY'LL GO TO THE EAST, AND IF THEY'RE IN ABACOA OR EGRET LANDING OR ANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES TO THE SOUTH, THEY'LL TAKE A RIGHT ON PENNOCK, OR THEY'LL CONTINUE TO MILITARY TRAIL AND GO EAST.
WE'VE ANALYZED THIS WITH YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO LOOK AT IT REALLY UNDER NOT ONLY STANDARD ITE, BUT UNDER HIS REQUEST ON HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT IT, WHICH WAS EXCEPTIONALLY CONSERVATIVE AND I THINK YOUR STAFF WILL TELL YOU THAT EVERYTHING WORKS, BUT OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS HERE.
IT'S A GOOD THING IF WE HAVE OUR CHURCHES FILLED, AND IN FACT, IF WE HAD MORE OF OUR CHURCHES FILLED ON SUNDAY, THERE WOULDN'T BE SO MANY CARS ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
[LAUGHTER] WE NEED TO PROMOTE GETTING PEOPLE INTO ALL OF OUR WONDERFUL GREAT CHURCHES THAT WE HAVE.
[NOISE] AS I NOTED, WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE WITH THE CONDOMINIUM TO THE EAST OF US, SHOULD WE NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT CORRESPONDENCE WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR THE FILE.
OUR REQUESTS SATISFIES ALL OF THE CRITERIA FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW, SPECIAL EXCEPTION CRITERIA, ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCES TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN ROAD WHEN IT REALLY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS DURING THE WEEK IN THIS PM PEAK HOUR DATE.
WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
WE HAVE ONE REQUEST DEALING WITH THE CONDITION NUMBER 7B, WHICH IS DEALING WITH OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.
BASICALLY THE CONDITION LIMITS ANY OUTSIDE ACTIVITY AND REQUIRES ANY OUTSIDE ACTIVITY TO BE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
WE AGREE WITH THAT CONDITION IF IT'S ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING OR THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING, BUT ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, WE ARE IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THERE ARE TIMES THAT THINGS DO OCCUR OUTSIDE A BUILDING, AND IF IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A SPECIAL PERMIT, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
ONE EXAMPLE THAT WE PROVIDED TO STAFF, SOMETIMES ON A WEDNESDAY, IF A STUDENT IS DROPPED OFF THOROUGHLY, SOMETIMES WE LIKE TO SET UP CORN HOLE IN THE FRONT WHERE THE STUDENTS CAN HAVE A GOOD TIME, BE OUT OF THE WAY OF TRAFFIC, BUT STILL HAVE AN ACTIVITY WHILE THEIR FRIENDS AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO ARE ARRIVING.
JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE, MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT AT ANY LENGTH, AND WITH THAT WE WOULD REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
>> JUST BRING UP AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY SO WE HAVE IT HERE FOR EVERYONE.
UNDERSTOOD. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
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FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S YOUR HEART PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, THEY'RE REQUESTING A HUGE CHANGE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM 20,316 SQUARE FEET OF AN INDOOR RECREATION USED TO A CHURCH USE.
STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICATION WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN CODE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RECOMMENDED WITHIN RESOLUTION 3023, THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS, AS YOU HEARD WITH CONDITIONS 7B OF THE RESOLUTION DUE TO THEIR DESIRED METHOD OF OPERATION, WHICH I'LL DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON IN A FEW MINUTES.
THE PROPOSED CHANGED QUALIFIES AS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
DUE TO THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS THAT A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION BRINGS TO THE ZONING DISTRICT WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, AND ALSO BROUGHT INTO THE REVIEW PROCESS OF THE APPLICATION.
I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH A FEW SPECIFICS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC AND PARKING MANAGEMENT PLANS THAT WE HAVE IN YOUR APPLICATION PACKET HERE TODAY.
FIRST, REGARDING THE PZ APPLICATION RECOMMENDATION, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED A FEW CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
ONE BEING A PARKING STUDY WOULD BE CONDUCTED WITHIN 60 DAYS.
SECOND, BEING A TRAFFIC AND PARKING STUDY B-CHORD, OR TRAFFIC AND PARKING BE COORDINATED WITH NEIGHBORING CHURCHES AND OTHER BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE ON SUNDAYS.
THIRD ONE, THAT CODE COMPLIANCE WOULD OVERSEE AND MONITOR THE MUSIC OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
A FOURTH, WHERE THE SPECIAL PERMITS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS WOULD BE DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THE NOISE STAYS WITHIN THE CODE LIMITS.
CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY JUST DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH.
SINCE THE MEETING, STAFF HAS WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO REFINE THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, AND PERFORMED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BASED ON THE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL CAUSE NO SIGNIFICANT ISSUES ON ANYTIME ROAD OR IN THE SURROUNDING INTERSECTIONS.
COLLABORATING ACROSS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE TOWN INCLUDING JUPITER PD, AND THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
WE'VE REVIEWED THE PLAN THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND HAVE DETERMINE THAT THEIR MINIMIZES THE MAJOR IMPLICATIONS OF THE FLOW ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
IF THIS DOES BECOME A PROBLEM LATER ON, THE CONDITIONED AND THE WAY THAT IT'S WORDED PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY AND WE'RE ABLE TO AMEND IT, ADDRESSED THE ISSUE.
SIMILARLY, IF IT BECOMES LESS OF AN ISSUE, WE CAN ALSO ADDRESS IT THAT WAY AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF LENIENCY SHOULD IT WILL RESOLVE ITSELF.
AS FOR THE PARKING, THE USER HAS ADEQUATELY PARKED THE USE ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE USE.
THE PARKING RATIOS THAT WE DO USE ARE BASED ON AVERAGES OF SIMILAR USAGE AND PROJECTED INTENSITIES OF THE USE.
THE WAY THAT THIS USE WILL BE PARKED IS AT THAT ONE PER 1,000 SQUARE FEET, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL ONE PER FOUR SEATS.
THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE OUTLINED WITHIN THE CODE BASED ON THOSE APPLICATIONS FOR BOTH PARKING AND TRAFFIC.
AS TOUCHED ON EARLIER AND AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A FEW CONCERNS WITH THE CONDITIONS 7B BASED ON HOW THEY PROCEED OR HOW THEY WISH TO OPERATE IN THE FUTURE.
THAT CONDITION DOES STATE ANY ACTIVITIES PROPOSED TO BE CONDUCTED OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING SHALL REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT.
STAFF HAS INCLUDED CONDITIONS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BASED ON THE MEETING WITH THE CHURCH IN ORDER TO PRODUCE DISTURBANCES FOR NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH THE CONDITION AS WRITTEN CURRENTLY IN THE STAFF REPORT, ANY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SHOULD TOWN COUNCIL WILL BE RECEPTIVE TO THE HOPKINS CONCERNED STAFF HAS PROVIDED ALTERNATIVE CONDITIONS ON PAGE 8 OF THE REPORT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADOPTED IN PLACE OF THE CONDITION 7B.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. I'M TURNING TO THE COUNCIL AND ASK IF ANYBODY IN A COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
ON CONDITIONS 7B WOULD BE IS THERE ANY WAY TO DEFINE SMALLER EVENTS LIKE CORN WHOLE GIRLS CALLED COOKIE EVENTS, THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT, THAT SPECIAL PERPETUITY FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC LARGE GATHERINGS.
>> I MEAN, CERTAINLY IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO PROVIDE THAT LENIENCY,
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YOU'D HIT THE FLEXIBILITY.WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING JUST FOR THE SPECIAL PERMITS BASED ON THE TOWN CODE.
>> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, GEAR WATSON WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.
THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED AND WHAT THE CODE STATES.
IT'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS VERY STRICT ON ANY OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AT ALL, WAS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED AN EVENT AND REQUIRE A PERMIT.
THE WAY THAT THE TOWN CODE READS, YOU'RE CORRECT.
THERE'S A CERTAIN LIST OF THINGS CRITERIA THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR THINGS TO BE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A SPECIAL PERMIT.
THE ALTERNATIVE CONDITION THAT'S PROVIDED ON PAGE 8 COULD BE USED TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
WE COULD GO THROUGH THE LIST OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED FOR THAT CODE SECTION TO BECOME AN EVENT.
THOSE WOULD BE THE THINGS THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE EVENT PERMIT PROCESS.
BUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, AS THE APPLICANTS MENTIONED, CORN HOLE IN AN EMAIL, THEY PROVIDED US GIRL SCOUT COOKIES AND SOME OTHER SMALLER ACTIVITIES THAT AREN'T WOULDN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A SPECIAL PERMIT.
THOSE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAPPEN HERE WITHOUT THAT PERMANENT PROCESS.
>> FOR STAFF. WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR MAJOR HOLIDAYS?
>> IF IT'S OKAY, IT MIGHT BE BEST I PRESENT THAT.
FIRST OF ALL, FOR MAJOR HOLIDAYS, ANY SPECIAL EVENT, A CHRISTMAS PROGRAM, SOME SPECIAL CHRISTMAS EVE SERVICE.
LARGE GATHERING WOULD HAPPEN DOWN AT THE MAIN CAMPUS IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
THAT'S WHERE THE CHRISTMAS PROGRAM WAS.
THIS YEAR JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS A BIG SISTERHOOD EVENT FOR ALL OF THE CHURCHES THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
THEY'RE HELD AT THE CAMPUS IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
HERE ON SITE OR IN JUPITER, OF COURSE, ON EASTER AND ON CHRISTMAS ATTENDANCE IS GREATER IN EVERY ONE OF OUR LOCAL CHURCHES, WHETHER THERE'S A PROGRAM OR NOT, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT THOSE ARE SPECIAL HIGH HOLIDAYS THAT THEY LIKE TO ATTEND.
DURING THOSE PERIODS, WE WOULD, AS MANY OF OUR CHURCHES DO, HIRE OFF DUTY JUPITER POLICE OFFICERS TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF SUPPORT.
BUT WE WON'T BE HOLDING LARGE SIGNIFICANT EVENTS ON THIS CAMPUS.
THEY WOULD BE OCCURRING GLOBALLY.
I HOPE THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION.
STILL, IT'D BE A HIGHER LEVEL OF TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, JUST LIKE WE SEE REALLY AT ALL OF OUR LOCAL CHURCHES DURING THOSE EVENTS.
BUT WE WILL NOT BE DOING LARGE CHRISTMAS PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE GROWING LARGE CROWDS LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE AT THE MAIN CAMPUS IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
>> GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE TO HAVING MULTIPLE EVENTS IN A DAY AND THE HOLIDAYS.
I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE ARE MULTIPLE SERVICES IN A DAY WHICH IS GOING TO CAUSE CONGESTION ON THE ROAD.
I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS FOR THAT.
WITH RESPECT TO WORKING WITH JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT, IS THAT GOING TO BE A DETAIL OR A DUTY ASSIGNMENT?
>> WE CURRENTLY, EVEN AT HARBOR SIDE, HAVE JUPITER DETAIL THERE THAT IS PAID FOR BY THE CHURCH.
WE DO THAT AT MOST OF OUR FACILITIES.
IF THERE IS AN EVENT OR HOLIDAY WHERE WE EXPECT A CROWD THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANY SPECIAL TRAFFIC CONTROL, BY ALL MEANS, WE WILL REACH OUT TO YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE GOT A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, AND TRY TO PROVIDE THEM AS MUCH SUPPORT AS WE CAN FROM THE CHURCH.
WOULD 100% COMMIT TO DOING THAT FOR YOU.
YES, COULD THERE BE MORE SERVICES? RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO SERVICES, 9:30 AND 11:00 ON WHETHER IT WAS EASTER, SOMETIMES THERE'S EARLIER SERVICE, OR ON CHRISTMAS, THERE COULD ALSO BE A CHRISTMAS EVE SERVICE, AND AN EARLIER SERVICE MAYBE ON A CHRISTMAS MORNING.
IF THERE'S ANY, TYPICALLY THE EARLIER SERVICES WOULDN'T DRIVE ANY CONFLICT WITH TRAFFIC.
IT'S ANYTHING REALLY THAT'S AFTER 11:00, WHICH IS WHEN THE TRAFFIC TENDS TO PICK UP ON ANY OF OUR ROADS.
WE WOULD OPERATE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF OUR GREAT LOCAL CHURCHES HERE IN THE TOWN.
>> I GUESS I WAS LOOKING FOR MORE SPECIFICS BECAUSE UNLIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, PALM BEACH GARDENS AT NORTH THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE.
THIS IS LOCATED IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHT AND THERE WILL NEVER BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
THE ONLY WAY TO MANAGE THE TRAFFIC IS THROUGH JPD OR SOME OTHER MECHANISMS. I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN A SITUATION WHERE
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YOU HAVE THREE OR FOUR SERVICES IN A DAY BACK-TO-BACK OR THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY.EXACTLY HOW WOULD THIS TRAFFIC BE MANAGED? IN PARTICULAR, IF YOU TURN RIGHT OUT OF THE FACILITY THERE AND THEN YOU WANT TO GO WEST, IS THERE GOING TO BE A LOG JAM, PEOPLE MAKING A U-TURN AT PIN OAK OR SOMEPLACE ELSE? I WANT TO AVOID HAVING TRAFFIC LEACH INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS PEOPLE FIND SHORTCUTS.
FOR ME, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR SPECIFICS.
THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS VERY DETAILED.
AT EACH OF THE DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS, THERE WILL BE MANNED PEOPLE THERE.
MANNED BY CHRIST FELLOWSHIP TRAFFIC TEAM TO DIRECT TRAFFIC WHERE THEY NEED TO GO TO PARTICULARLY PREVENT ANY LEAKAGE INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'VE BEEN VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT TO DAY 1.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE'RE LESS THAN 200 FEET TO A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT DELAWARE.
WHAT THAT DOES, IS THAT PROVIDES SIGNAL TIMING AND THAT ALSO PROVIDES BREAKS IN THE TRAFFIC, WHICH MAKES IT VERY EASY TO GET OUR PEOPLE OUT TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN.
TRAFFIC THAT WOULD GO OUT THE CALOOSAHATCHEE ENTRANCE, TAKING A RIGHT TURN EASTBOUND.
IF THE SIGNAL IS RED AT DELAWARE, CAN VERY EASILY GET OVER AND MAKE A U-TURN WITHIN THE MEDIAN OUT THERE IN THE FRONT OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
MOST OF THE TRAFFIC WILL END UP GOING TO THE EAST.
WE ANALYZED TO A VERY CONSERVATIVE LEVEL, WHICH I THINK MY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, MR. KUHRT, WOULD TELL YOU IS PROBABLY TWICE THE STANDARD OF THE ITE, THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
ACID TESTED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AT THE SIGNAL AT DELAWARE OR AT PIN OAK.
THERE WAS NO ISSUES WITH U-TURN MODE BITS, NO ISSUES WITH LEFT TURNS, NO ISSUES WITH RIGHT TURNS, OR ANY CONGESTION ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THAT WAS REALLY PRESSING IT HARD AND LOOKING AT IT AT THAT 11:00 HOUR WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR SEQUENCE.
WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE TRAFFIC WILL WORK.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, CHRIST FELLOWSHIP HAS A KNOWN HISTORY, IT'S IN THEIR DNA, TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUE IF IT COMES UP.
TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS ADAPTIVELY MANAGED AND PARKING IS ADAPTIVELY MANAGED.
WE WILL DO THAT AND WE'LL DO IT WITH EXCELLENCE IN GREAT COORDINATION WITH ALL OF YOUR STAFF, SO I CAN COMMIT TO YOU THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A CONFLICT.
ALSO, REMEMBER THAT THIS IS AT A TIME WHERE THERE IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC REALLY ON OUR ROADWAY NETWORK BECAUSE IT'S ON SUNDAY.
IT'S NOT EVEN ON SATURDAY, SO IT'S NOT PEAK HOUR.
WE'RE DOING FAR MORE TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC THAN ANY IMPACT THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING.
BUT IF YOU'D LIKE MR. KUHRT TO TALK ABOUT THAT MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE HAPPY TO, BUT THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED TO THE SATISFACTION OF YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
LET ME TELL YOU, CJ IS VERY DETAILED.
IT WAS THE DATA DOUBLING THE TRAFFIC FROM WHAT THE ITE STANDARDS TEST STILL SHOWS THAT THERE'S NO FALSE, AND IF THERE WERE, WE WILL STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY ON SIGNAL TIMING IF THAT WERE NEEDED.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE AMOUNT OF GREEN TIME THAT'S AVAILABLE AT THE PIN OAK, WE'D ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE TYPES OF ADJUSTMENTS.
>> HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION ON SATURDAYS? BECAUSE THERE WILL BE TIMES IN HIGH HOLIDAYS WHERE YOU COULD HAVE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT ON A SATURDAY, WHICH IS THE PEAK TIME FOR INDIANTOWN ROAD.
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE MANAGED IN THAT SITUATION.
>> SATURDAY STILL WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A PEAK, BUT IT WOULD BE DONE IN THE SAME WAY.
WE TYPICALLY DO NOT HAVE SATURDAY SERVICES, OR IF WE DID, IT WOULD BE A CHRISTMAS EVE TYPE OF AN EVENT WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE OFF AND THERE'S A LOT LESS TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAY NETWORK.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE WILL FUNCTION BETTER THAN ANY OF OUR CHURCHES WITHIN THE REGION.
WE HAVE LOTS OF THEM THAT ARE BUSY ON HIGH HOLIDAYS.
WE WILL FUNCTION WITH THEM AND MANAGE OUR TRAFFIC WITH EXCELLENCE.
IF THERE'S ANY ISSUE, WE WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO STEP UP AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ADDRESSED.
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>> HOW MANY OFFICERS DO YOU THINK YOU WILL NEED TO MANAGE THE TRAFFIC?
>> ON A NORMAL SUNDAY, THERE WILL BE NONE.
UNLESS JUPITER PD SAYS WE FEEL THAT WE NEED SOME.
IF THERE WAS A HOLIDAY EVENT, I WOULD THINK TWO, MAYBE THREE.
WE'VE CHOSEN AND I THINK IT'S PD'S PREFERENCE, AND I'LL LET THEM SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES IF THEY'RE HERE, NOT TO HAVE AN OFFICER IN THE MEDIAN TO STOP TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THEY PREFER THE RIGHT TURN MOVEMENT.
BUT WE'LL HAVE WHATEVER WE NEED ON THE SITE TO MANAGE THE TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE.
>> THERE'LL BE NO ACTIVE MANAGEMENT ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, IT WOULD JUST BE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE TRAFFIC AS IT LEAVES THE COMPLEX.
I THINK PD IS HERE MAYBE IF THEY WANT TO RESPOND.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT OFFICERS OUT IN THE MEDIAN OF INDIANTOWN ROAD STOPPING TRAFFIC.
>> THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE QUESTION JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND MAYBE FOR STAFF, I'M NOT SURE.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT CHURCHES ARE ESPECIAL EXCEPTION USES IN ALL ZONES, IS THAT RIGHT? BE IT COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL.
>> YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THEY ARE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO ALL DISTRICTS.
>> THE REASON THERE ARE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS IS BECAUSE THEY CAN BE A NUMBER OF THINGS.
SOME CHURCHES CAN BE SCHOOLS AS WELL.
THEY COULD OFFER DAYCARE SERVICES.
THEY COULD BE LARGE, FLEXIBLE SPACE, ALMOST LIKE A CONVENTION CENTER.
THEY VARY AND SO IT'S HARD TO KNOW THE USES THAT WILL BELONG TO A CHURCH AND THE HOURS THAT THEY WILL OPERATE.
SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE SCHOOLS WILL HAVE THEIR PERFORMANCES AT CHURCHES JUST TO HAVE AN AUDITORIUM AND A SPACE FOR PARENTS TO GATHER AROUND THE HOLIDAYS.
I SHARE COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER'S CONCERNS AROUND MAYBE NOT JUST HOLIDAYS.
I DON'T HAVE CONCERNS AROUND SUNDAY NECESSARILY, SOME CONCERN AROUND WEDNESDAY EVENING, BUT STILL OFF-PEAK.
WHAT IF THIS CHURCH DOES DECIDE TO HOLD LARGE EVENTS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR IN THIS COMMUNITY, TO HELP A SCHOOL, TO HELP ANOTHER CHURCH, TO HELP SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT REQUIRES A TIME THAT DOES NOT WORK FOR INDIANTOWN ROAD AND FOR THE TOWN? HOW WOULD WE MANAGE THAT OR HOW COULD WE MANAGE THAT OR PREVENT A CONFLICT THERE?
>> CERTAINLY. WITHIN THE TRAFFIC SECTION WITHIN THE CONDITION THAT'S PROVIDED TO THE STAFF REPORT, IF AT ANY TIME THE TOWN DETERMINES THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] PROPERTIES TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MANAGEMENT PLAN IS NOT SUFFICIENT, THE TOWN CAN PROVIDE A WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE OWNER THAT REVISIONS TO THAT PLAN WILL BE REQUIRED.
THEN THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THE REVISED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WITHIN 30 DAYS.
IT DOES SAY THAT ANY REVISED TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MANAGEMENT PLAN SHALL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE ENGINEER OF THE TOWN.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE A MOVING TARGET.
IN THEORY THAT COULD BE A CONCERN.
I GUESS SOMETHING, WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE DATES AND TIMES? IS IT LIKE A PERMIT OR YOU WANT TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO APPROACH IT.
>> TWO THINGS. YOU HAVE TO TREAT EVERY SINGLE CHURCH EXACTLY THE SAME AND SO WE CAN HAVE SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR ONE CHURCH VERSUS ANOTHER CHURCH SO I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
WHAT I CAN COMMIT TO YOU IS WE HAVE A HISTORY OF DOING THINGS WITH EXCELLENCE.
ANY OF YOU, YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, I'M SURE ARE WELL AWARE OF PEOPLE IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
THE WAY THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES AND ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES FROM PORT ST. LUCIE DOWN TO BOCA RATON, AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE ISSUES.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR SCHOOLS AND SO I WOULD SEE IT AS A BENEFIT, IF WE OPEN OUR DOORS TO DO THAT.
IF IT'S A PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
WE CAN COMMIT TO THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.
I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW CHURCHES IN A C2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN.
IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE, AT THIS LOCATION ON A SUNDAY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
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THERE ARE MUCH LARGER CHURCHES IN THE TOWN THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE, THAT HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAT HAVE SCHOOLS.WE DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL ON ANY OF OUR CAMPUSES, AND SO WE'LL BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
WELL, GENERALLY WEDNESDAY NIGHT FROM 6:00-9:00, SMALL GROUP FOR YOUTH, AND THEN ON SUNDAY.
I CAN'T THINK OF THE LAST TIME THAT THERE WAS A SATURDAY SERVICE, BUT FOR A CHRISTMAS EVE SERVICE, WHICH WILL BE OFF-PEAK.
PEOPLE ON CHRISTMAS EVE, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY CARS ON THE ROAD OR THAT ACTIVITY WOULD HAPPEN IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE FOR A MUCH LARGER AUDIENCE WHERE WE HAVE THOSE EVENTS.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH LEO A FEW WEEKS AGO, IN PALM BEACH GARDENS WHERE THERE IS MULTIPLE SERVICES, OVER 2,500 SEATS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE FENDER BENDERS.
IT'S BECAUSE THE WAY THAT IT'S HANDLED IS WITH EXCELLENCE.
OUR COMMITMENT TO YOU AND TO THE TOWN IS THAT WE WILL DO THAT.
WE'LL COORDINATE, WE'LL COLLABORATE, AND WE'LL BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.
BUT WE'VE DONE THOSE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO IS A PROFESSIONAL, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAVE ALL CONFIRMED THAT THE TRAFFIC HERE IS APPROPRIATE.
I THINK THE CONCERNS I'M HEARING FROM MY FELLOW COUNSELORS IS THAT ANY CHANGE THAT YOU FOLKS MAKE IN SCHEDULING A NEW EVENT OR A DAYCARE OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND ANY PROBLEMS AND THAT WOULD BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN FROM THE PUBLIC AND THAT WOULD GO TO CODE COMPLIANCE.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WOULD CONTACT TOWN STAFF SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.
CAN WE DO OR WORK OUT A PLAN FOR THAT? A DAYCARE WOULD BE ANOTHER SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
I'M JUST THROWING OUT EXAMPLES.
BUT IF THERE ARE ISSUES, AND WE CERTAINLY WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO NOTIFY THE TOWN OF WHEN THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DIFFERENT HAPPENING AS A MATTER OF NOTIFICATION.
SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO CROSS THAT LINE WHERE WE'RE CREATING A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR CHRIST FELLOWSHIP THAN FOR JUPITERFIRST, BECAUSE WE REALLY CAN'T DO THAT.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE FREEDOM.
IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES, THERE'S PROVISIONS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE AS IT'S WRITTEN OR YOU CAN TIGHTEN IT UP, THAT WE WILL COMPLY.
I CAN TELL YOU IN MY 23-YEAR HISTORY WITH CHRIST FELLOWSHIP, WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM OR AN ISSUE THAT WE CAN'T RESOLVE AND THAT HASN'T BEEN RESOLVED IMMEDIATELY.
I HAD A QUESTION STAFF, FOLLOW UP.
[OVERLAPPING] I WANTED TO ADD, I CAN THEN.
BECAUSE I KNOW I HAD A MEMBER OF THIS CHURCH CONTACT ME SOMETIME BACK SAYING, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN WEDNESDAY EVENINGS AND SUNDAY.
I GET IT WE'RE ALL ANXIOUS THAT COULD CHANGE.
BUT IT IS THE CASE THAT THE STATEMENT OF USE IS ATTACHED AS THE EXPECTATION, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AS I THOUGHT IT WILL ALWAYS BE YES, NO, HERE'S A VERY CLEAR IN A STATEMENT.
THEN THAT SETS UP A MECHANISM THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO CHANGE, AS WE DO EXPECT IT TO CHANGE, POSSIBLY.
THEN UNDER THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, ACTUALLY, IT'S STILL A DELIVERABLE OF DEVELOPMENT ORDER, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT SAYS THAT THAT PLAN IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
WHEN IT'S SUBMITTED FIRST TIME, IT HAS TO MEET THE ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE THREE PROFESSIONAL GROUPS, IF YOU WILL, IN A TOWN, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THEN IT SAYS AS RECITED, AND I'M READING ON PAGE E, IF AT ANY TIME THE TOWN DETERMINES THAT THE SUBJECT TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN IS NOT SUFFICIENT, WHICH MEANS IF WE OBSERVE SOMETHING CHANGED, WE CALL OUT THAT REVISIONS THAT YOU MADE, AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I THINK WE'RE COVERED IN THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN HERE THAT CHANGE IF IT DOES HAPPEN.
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THE PERSON I SPOKE WITH, IT WON'T HAPPEN, BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS, THERE'S A MECHANISM IF AND WHEN IT HAPPENS, AND IT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE.YES. WE'VE PROVIDED PROTECTIVE MEASURES IN THE CONDITIONS TO ADDRESS CHANGING CONDITIONS OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, RECOGNIZING THAT USES DO EVOLVE.
IF THERE ARE OTHER ADDITIONS OR EXPANSIONS ON THINGS THAT OCCUR, THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A SEPARATE APPLICATION AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, ABOUT ADDING A SCHOOL OR DAYCARE OR OTHER TYPE OF USES.
THOSE ARE NEW APPLICATIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS.
IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE TOOLS ARE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO MANAGE THE TRAFFIC IN THE EVENT THERE ARE CHANGES.
THERE'S STILL CHANGES AND THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC, THERE'S MORE PEOPLE TURNING IN AND OUT AT THE SAME TIME.
WHAT SPECIFICALLY CAN BE DONE? WHAT TOOLS ARE THERE? WELCOME TO THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER OR THE POLICE CHIEF TO ADD TO THIS.
BUT THERE ARE OPERATIONAL CHANGES COULD OCCUR WITH THE HOURS OF THEIR SERVICES OR WITH SIGNAL TIMING AS IT WAS EARLIER I MENTIONED.
THERE'S ALSO A SIGNAL OVERRIDE SYSTEM THAT COULD BE REQUESTED FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY FOR CONSIDERATION.
THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS TO TRY TO MANAGE A SITUATION SHOULD IT ARISE.
BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH FOLKS THAT LIVE IN DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE CHRIST FELLOWSHIP OPERATES.
THEY DO HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION FOR MANAGING THEIR TRAFFIC IN A GOOD MANNER.
WE DON'T RELY ON THAT SPECIFICALLY ONLY BECAUSE WHILE CHRIST FELLOWSHIP IS COMMITTED TO THIS LOCATION.
TODAY, THEY MAY GROW OR CHANGE AND DECIDE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND ANOTHER RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS COULD LOCATE HERE THAT OPERATES AND FUNCTIONS DIFFERENTLY.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE'VE PROVIDED PROTECTIVE MEASURES IN THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
IF THE COUNCIL FEELS THAT THESE CONDITIONS DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ABOUT MAJOR EVENTS, AND YOU WANT THAT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED AS IT RELATES TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT THEY BRING FORWARD, THAT THEY SPECIFICALLY HAVE A PLAN FOR THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES, THE CONDITION COULD BE AMENDED TO INCREASE THE EXPECTATION OF WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT INITIAL PLAN.
BUT EVERYBODY DID GET MORE COMFORTABLE AS THEY LOOKED AT THIS, MORE SPECIFICALLY, FOLLOWING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED.
THAT'S WHY THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN ENHANCED SINCE THAT TIME.
>> ATTACHMENT F SHOULD BE, I THINK IT'S BEHIND THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
>> IT'S CONCERNING THE SMALL ACTIVITIES IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH.
DID THE APPLICANT SUPPLY A LIST OF THAT? THANK YOU.
>> IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN EVERYONE'S PACKET AFTER THE MINUTES FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
>> I GUESS I'LL ASK DURING DELIBERATION MY COLLEAGUES.
>> ANYTHING ELSE, OR QUESTIONS?
I'M NOW GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
EACH PERSON WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE FEEL FREE IF SOMEBODY ELSE SPOKE BEFORE YOU UNCOVERED WHAT YOU WOULD'VE SAID, NOT TAKE THE TIME, BUT WE'RE HERE.
[LAUGHTER] YOU WANT TO CALL UP WHO'S GOT COMMENT CARTZ?
>> FIRST WE HAVE LEO ABDULLAH AFTER LEO IS GOING TO BE GREG LION.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS.
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MY NAME IS LEO ABDULLAH, I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE OPERATIONS FOR CHRIST FELLOWSHIP.I'VE BEEN WITH CHRIST FELLOWSHIP FOR 26 YEARS.
SHORTLY AFTER WE CONVERTED YOU'LL POLE BARN FOR SERENA DOWN ON NORTHLAKE BOULEVARD AND TURNED IT INTO OUR FIRST REAL CHURCH.
I'VE BEEN ON STAFF WITH THE CHURCH NOW FOR 22 YEARS.
AS DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE OPERATIONS, I DEAL WITH ALL OF THE QUESTIONS YOU AS COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ASKING AT EVERY CITY WE'VE BEEN.
OVER THE YEARS WE'VE USED PROFESSIONAL DON HERRING.
DON HERRING COMES UP WITH SOLUTIONS.
DON HERRING IS A MAN OF IMPECCABLE INTEGRITY, AND WHEN HE IDENTIFIES A PROBLEM TO US BEFORE CITIES IDENTIFY PROBLEMS TO US, WE RESOLVE THEM.
WE COMMIT AS A CHURCH TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
WE COMMITTED THE CHURCH TO BE AN ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS THAT SERVED THE CITY.
EVERY CITY THAT WE'VE BEEN TO WE ALWAYS HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PUSHBACK WHEN WE COME IN BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG FOR US AS A CHURCH TO PROVE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WHEN THERE'S A HURRICANE OR BAD STORMS WE'RE THE FIRST ONES TO LINE UP AND PASS OUT ICE AND GIVE OUT WATER AND PICK UP BRUSH.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED CARDS TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT I HERE AS PASSIONATE VOLUNTEERS, WE ALL START AS VOLUNTEERS.
ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM ARE VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE THEY CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT BEING IN THE CITY OF JUPITER AND SERVING THIS TOWN.
I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY MORE TIME THAN THAT.
I'LL ALSO ASK ANY OF OUR PEOPLE WHO HEAR POINTS TALKED ABOUT TO ALSO PASS THEIR TIME AS WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE A POSITIVE VOTE FOR ME. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF YOU AND HEAR A BEHALF OF CHRIST FELLOWSHIP AND OUR FAMILY OF CHURCH MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS GREG LION AND I'M AT 211 COMMERCE WAY HERE IN JUPITER.
I'VE BEEN IN JUPITER FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
I'M AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE CHURCH AND I'M RAISING MY FAMILY HERE IN JUPITER WITH GOD AND THE CHURCH AT THE CENTER OF MY FAMILY.
WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY, WE WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE INVEST IN THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT THIS TOWN, ITS CITIZENS TO THRIVE.
I RUN A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
WE OWN RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
[NOISE] A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IT MAKES FOR COMMUNITIES TO THRIVE.
IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT TALL BUILDINGS AND LOTS OF RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW ARE WE REINVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
IN REAL ESTATE, YOU HEAR THE TERMS LOT HIGHEST AND BEST USE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TODAY THE HIGHEST USE, BEST USE FOR THIS BUILDING IS THE CHURCHES SERVICE AND INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS PROJECT'S NOT ABOUT ROI, RETURN ON INVESTMENT, BUT RATHER RETURN OF INVESTMENT.
WE'RE INVESTING IN OUR FAMILIES, OUR MARRIAGES, AND EACH OTHER.
THIS TOWN IS AN AMAZING PLACE TO LIVE, AN AMAZING PLACE TO WORK, AN AMAZING PLACE TO PLAY BUT THIS TOWN TRULY NEEDS MORE PLACES THAT INVEST IN OUR FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN.
WHERE CHILDREN ARE SAFE, CAN GROW, AND PROSPER.
WHERE THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES CAN BE MET AND CARED FOR.
WE'RE HERE TO BUILD GREAT LEADERS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR SUPPORTING OUR NEW CHURCH HOME AT 1,200 WEST INDIANTOWN ROAD HERE IN JUPITER, A FAMILY-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.
>> RAY MAGAZINE AND THEN DAVID AMIGO.
>> GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR TOWN COUNCIL.
I'VE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 23 YEARS.
WE WOULD NEVER GO ANYWHERE ELSE AND MY OFFICE IS HERE AS WELL, MY BUSINESS. JUST ABSOLUTELY LOVE.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY, THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, AND I KNOW IT PAYS DIVIDENDS, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST MENTION, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH CHRIST FELLOWSHIP FOR 23 YEARS.
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WE STARTED IN THE HIGH SCHOOL AT JUPITER, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE BOUGHT A TRAILER FOR THE DRILL TEAM TO PUT THEIR INSTRUMENTS IN.I THOUGHT I WOULD TELL YOU JUST QUICKLY, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
WE PREPARED MEALS FOR ALL THE TEACHERS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE PAINTED THE HALLWAYS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE JUST RECENTLY TOOK COOLERS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE GAVE CARE PACKAGES TO FIRST RESPONDERS.
WE GO INTO THE ASSISTED LIVING, WE PUT MULCH AROUND THERE, AND HAVE PROGRAMS AS WELL.
I'VE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH A CHURCH THAT HAS THE OUTREACH AND THE CONCERN OF A COMMUNITY LIKE CHRIST FELLOWSHIP, IT'S BEEN AMAZING.
THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS AND I KNOW THAT WE WILL PARTNER WITH OUR COMMUNITY IN A VERY BIG WAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION A FEW THINGS THERE. THANKS FOR THE TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME FOR HEARING THIS APPLICATION.
I'VE BEEN IN JUPITER NOW FOR THREE YEARS AND LOVE THIS COMMUNITY.
LAST TIME IN FRONT OF PLANNING AND ZONING, I SAID WE HAD ONE LIGHTHOUSE AND SOON WE'D HAVE TWO IF CHRIST FELLOWSHIP WAS PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.
WE HONORED OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WE TALKED ABOUT HEALTH, WELLNESS, AND SAFETY.
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN? WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT ABOUT THE WELLNESS OF OUR FAMILIES? WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING A PLACE THAT PEOPLE COULD GO AND THERE NEEDS TO BE MET? THIS APPLICATION WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THIS COMMUNITY.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE ATTRIBUTES, BUT THAT'S JUST A SMALL LIST.
CONTACT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES CONTACT WPTV.
YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT WHAT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP DOES AND THE IMPACT IT COULD HAVE IN JUPITER. THANK YOU.
>> ANDREW ROUSSEAU THEN GREG DEVALLEY.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M ANDREW ROUSSEAU I LIVE AT 1304 PENINSULA ROAD IN THE TOWN, AND ALSO A JUPITER HIGH-SCHOOL GRADUATE.
MY TWO OLDEST KIDS GRADUATED JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL, SO I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT.
LOVE THE TOWN. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP. IT'S A GREAT CHURCH.
THE CUMULATIVE REDUCTION TRAFFIC ALONE IS PROBABLY REASON ENOUGH TO APPROVE IT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
ESPECIALLY THE REDUCTION OF TRAFFIC DURING THE PEAK TIME OF THE WEEK DURING RUSH HOUR AS OPPOSED TO THE WEEKEND WHEN THERE WILL BE PEAK HERE, AT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP.
BUT THAT AGAIN TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
CHURCHES IN GENERAL, MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND ARE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY.
CHRIST FELLOWSHIP IN PARTICULAR IS A GREAT CHURCH AND THE RIGHT NEIGHBOR.
GREAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS. THEY HELP AND THEY TRULY LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORS.
GREAT CHILDREN AND STUDENT MINISTRY AND PROGRAMS. CHRIST FELLOWSHIP IT IS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND WILL BE IN JUPITER.
A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT TO THE TOWN.
IT'S A GREAT LIFESTYLE, A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE ALREADY.
THIS CHURCH WILL ONLY MAKE IT BETTER.
I'M HERE IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT AND HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND APPROVE IT TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS GREG DEVAY.
I LIVE DOWN IN RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND I LIKE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK SPEECH HERE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS SMALL BRIEF OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY HEART AND WISH YOU ALL GOOD HEALTH AND HIGH SPIRITS.
SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY AS A PROUD MEMBER OF CHRIST FELLOWSHIP JUPITER CAMPUS, TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR OUR CHURCH BILLING.
CHRIST FELLOWSHIP HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, SERVING AS A BEACON OF HOPE, STRENGTH, COMPASSION, AND SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE.
I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO HIGHLIGHT THE BENEFICIAL ASPECTS OF OUR CHURCH BUILDING, WHICH WILL BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS CHURCH EXTENDS BEYOND ITS RELIGIOUS FUNCTION.
IT SERVES AS A VITAL COMMUNITY CENTER, FOSTERING A SENSE OF UNITY AND PROVIDING NUMEROUS BENEFITS FOR OUR TOWN.
ALLOW ME TO OUTLINE SOME OF THE POSITIVE IMPACTS THAT OUR CHURCH BUILDING WILL HAVE ON OUR TOWN.
FIRST, SOCIAL AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
IT WILL PROVIDE A DEDICATED SPACE FOR OUR CONJUGATION AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO COME TOGETHER, FOSTERING MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS AND PROMOTING SOCIAL COHESION.
IT WILL ALSO SUPPORT FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, EMPOWER COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO REACH THEIR POTENTIAL BUT ALSO INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO CONTRIBUTE BACK TO SOCIETY AND TO GIVE TO THE ONGOING PROSPERITY OF OUR TOWN.
LET'S NOT FORGET COMMUNITY SAFETY AND PREPAREDNESS.
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IN A TIME OF CRISIS, OUR CHURCH MEMBERS SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THIS TOWN WHO ARE SEEKING HELP.DO THE PARTICIPATION OF COLLABORATIVE EMERGENCY RESPONSE EFFORTS AND THE DISASTER RELIEF INITIATIVES.
THIS WILL ALSO FORTIFY AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITIES RESILIENCE AND PREPAREDNESS, PROVIDING A SENSE OF SECURITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
IN THIS LAST BRIEF CATEGORY ON ECONOMIC GROWTH AND REVITALIZATION, THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR CHURCH BUILDING WILL ALSO BE A POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON THIS TOWN.
IT WILL CREATE JOBS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE AND BENEFIT LOCAL WORKERS AND STIMULATE OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
FURTHERMORE, THE PRESENCE OF AN ACTIVE AND VIBRANT CHURCH CAN ATTRACT VISITORS FROM NEIGHBORING AREAS, LEADING TO FOSTERING ECONOMIC GROWTH AND FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
IN CONCLUSION, CHRIST FELLOWSHIP EXPECTATION IS ROOTED IN PAST PERFORMANCE.
THEIR EXPECTATIONS INFLUENCE THE PRESENT AND IMPACTS THE FUTURE.
WE DELIVER TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
WHAT WE BASICALLY ARE ASKING IS FOR YOU TO ALLOW US TO LOVE ON THIS TOWN.
ALLOW US TO NURTURE, MENTOR, AND PROMOTE CITIZENS THAT GIVE BACK TO A COMMUNITY FROM A LOVE THAT WAS BIRTH AND FLOWS FROM WITHIN THEM.
WE ALL KNOW SOMEONE CLOSE TO US OR FRIEND OF A FRIEND HAS BEEN LOVED ON BY A CHURCH.
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THAT STORY. THANK YOU.
>> ETHAN CHOCOLATE THEN REY NIGHT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TONIGHT.
I'M SO THANKFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. MY NAME IS ETHAN.
I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS ONE OF OUR PASTORS AT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP, JUPITER, AND ON BEHALF OF PASTOR TODD AND PASTOR JULIE, I JUST WANT TO READ A QUICK BIBLE VERSES FROM JEREMIAH 29.
IT'S A COMMAND FROM GOD TO HIS PEOPLE.
IT SAYS, SEEK THE WELFARE OF THE CITY WHERE I HAVE SENT YOU AND PRAY TO THE LORD ON THE CITY'S BEHALF FOR THEIR WELFARE IS YOUR WELFARE.
I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW FROM THEM, FROM ME, OUR HEART IS THAT THE WELFARE OF THIS CITY IS FIRST, THE WELFARE OF OUR FAMILIES, OUR MARRIAGES, OUR HOSPITALS, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND EVERYONE IN-BETWEEN.
OUR COMMITMENT TO YOU IS THAT BEFORE A BUILDING, BEFORE A SERVICE, THE THING WE THINK ABOUT, THE THING WE WORK FOR, THE THING WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR UTMOST BEST FOR IS THE WELFARE OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I SERVE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS AT STUDENTS.
WITH THAT MINISTRY. I'VE LEARNED A LOT.
I'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE YOUTH IN JUPITER.
I BELIEVE WE'RE ALL HERE TO REALLY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
TO HELP YOU MAKE THIS TOWN EVEN GREATER THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
THAT'S WHY ON SUNDAYS, AT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP.
IF YOU DO ATTEND A SERVICE, YOU'D SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS, WELCOME HOME.
WELL, I'M ASKING THAT YOU HELP US PLANT THAT SIGN HERE IN JUPITER.
TO ESTABLISH A PLACE WHERE OUR YOUTH WILL ALWAYS BE WELCOMED HOME.
>> JOHN IMA THEN BOB FISHBIEN.
>> HOW DO YOU DO MAYOR AND COUNCIL [LAUGHTER].
MY NAME IS JOHN IMA, RECENT FIRST-TIME HOMEOWNER AND VERY PROUD RESIDENT OF JUPITER.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAS BLOWN ME AWAY WITH THE CHURCH THAT I ATTEND, CHRIST FELLOWSHIP.
THAT'LL BE THE WAY THAT THEY POUR INTO AND ADD VALUE TO FAMILIES.
I'VE GOTTEN A FRONT ROW SEAT TO SEE IN THE WEEKLY PROGRAMS THAT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP PUTS ON.
THERE HAS BEEN A FEW INSTANCES THAT HAVE REALLY BROUGHT A SMILE TO MY FACE.
ONE OF THOSE BEING ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THERE WAS A STUDENT WHO WALKED IN AND HE WAS PRETTY MUCH A SHELL OF HIMSELF, WASN'T CONFIDENT, WANTED TO BE INVISIBLE.
EXTREME OPPOSITE, WON'T STOP TALKING.
IN FACT, HE ACTUALLY RECENTLY PERFORMED A STAND-UP COMEDY FOR THE ENTIRE OF A SCHOOL, JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THE MOST TERRIFYING THING IN THE WORLD EVER TO DO.
ALSO, IT'S NOT A SURPRISE TO ANY OF US THAT MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS IS A TERRIFYING RATES IN STUDENTS.
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THE MENTORSHIP THAT'S AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS ON A WEEKLY BASIS THAT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP ALLOWS, THE STUDENTS DON'T HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THAT ALONE.IN FACT, MANY OF THE VOLUNTEERS AND COUNSELORS THAT ARE THERE AT CHURCH HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT FAMILIES TO MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THOSE SITUATIONS WITH STUDENTS, ALLOWING THEM TO NOT HAVE TO PROCESS THROUGH THIS DARK TIMES ALONE.
ALSO, THE STUDENTS THAT ARE COMING UP IN THIS PROGRAM ARE DOING INCREDIBLE THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK ABOUT ONE 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHO RAISED $10,000 BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO FOSTER FAMILIES IN OUR AREA.
I THINK, OF JUPITER AS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO COME AND RAISE A FAMILY, A PLACE WHERE LEGACY HAPPENS. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT FOR THE FAMILY VALUES THAT MAKE JUPITER SO SPECIAL THAT A PLACE THAT CAN HAPPEN AND WILL HAPPEN IS THAT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP.
THAT'S WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
>> HI, I'M BOB FISHBIEN AND I WANT TO SAY, GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH CHRIST FELLOWSHIP FOR THREE YEARS.
I'VE HAD 38 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION WITH ABOUT 45,000 STUDENTS.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, BROTHERS, SISTERS, EXTENDED FAMILY, AND ALSO THIS BEING A PARENT.
I'VE HAD 150 FOSTER KIDS IN MY HOME.
STRANGE, BUT I ALWAYS SAID I LEARN MORE FROM KIDS THAN A LEARN FROM ANYBODY AND I SEE THAT ALL THE TIME.
I SPENT 11 YEARS AS A REFEREE HERE.
I'VE REFEREED AND JUST ABOUT EVERY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL IN THIS COUNTY AND ALSO A VOLLEYBALL FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT ALSO IMPORTANT IN OUR LIVES, NOW, BESIDES THE EXPERIENCE, CHRIST FELLOWSHIP HAS TOLD US MORE ABOUT LIFE-GIVING, LOVING, AND GET MORE INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT AT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP CENTER IN THE MAPLE WOULD STRIP MALL.
I'M PRIVILEGED TO SERVE 60-70 KIDS WITH SOME OF THE MOST DIVERSIFIED AND CARING LEADERS.
HAVING STUDENTS WHO FOLLOW THESE LEADERS, IT'S ORGANIZED, ITS EDUCATIONAL.
IT INCLUDES OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, PARENTS AND OTHER BUSINESS LEADERS.
WE ATTEND ME AND MY WIFE CHURCH WEEKLY AT A HARBOR SIDE BESIDE OTHER ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING WEEKLY GROUPS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
FINALLY, MY WIFE AND I ARE BUSINESS OWNERS HERE IN JUPITER AROUND AND COMMITTED TO OUR CLIENT'S HEALTH AND WELL-BEING.
I GUARANTEE YOU FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, CHRIST FELLOWSHIP AND ITS LEADERS ARE COMMITTED TO EXCELLENCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND ARE ALL HUGE ASSETS TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING ALL PEOPLE AND CHRIST FELLOWSHIP LEADERS ARE CONSISTENT AND THEY DON'T JUST TALK, THEY FOLLOW UP AND THEY DO IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND FOR ALL THE SERVICES THAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING HERE IN JUPITER, FLORIDA AT 825 CENTER STREET APARTMENT 10A.
I HAVE ALSO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GROWING UP HERE IN JUPITER FLORIDA JUST ON MAPLEWOOD ROAD.
PEOPLE WOULD DRIVE, FORGIVE ME, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I LIVED IN THAT HOUSE.
BUT NOT ONLY DID I GROW UP IN THE BEAUTIFUL TOWN OF JUPITER FLORIDA, BUT I GREW UP IN THE BEAUTIFUL CHURCH OF CHRIST FELLOWSHIP.
AS I LOOK BACK ON THE 28 YEARS OF MY LIFE, I'M CONFIDENT THAT I WOULD NOT BE THE WOMAN, THE PERSON THAT I AM WITHOUT THIS CHURCH IT'S THANKS TO THE MENTORS, THE PASTORS, THE FRIENDS, THE COMMUNITY, THE VOLUNTEERS.
EVERY CONVERSATION, EVERY PHONE CALL, EVERY EVENT TOGETHER SHAPED ME, HAVE MADE ME.
GROWING UP HERE IN JUPITER, FLORIDA, I HAD TO DRIVE 20 MINUTES TO GARDENS CAMPUS TO FIND THAT COMMUNITY, TO FIND THAT HOPE IN THAT LIGHT THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND WE SHARED EARLIER, WE HAVE OUR OWN FAIR SHARE OF MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO ARE WALKING THROUGH SEVERE CHALLENGES EVERY DAY WHO ARE DESPERATE FOR THE SAME HOPE AND ENCOURAGEMENT AND LIGHT THAT I WAS AS A BROKEN MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENT.
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HAVING THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH SO MANY OF THEM ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS AS I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF DOING NOW, I CAN SHARE LIKE IT'S BEEN SHARED BEFORE THE NEED IS GREAT.WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE READY AND WILLING AND DESIRING TO COME ALONGSIDE YOUNG PEOPLE, JUST LIKE PEOPLE CAME ALONGSIDE MYSELF.
I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF CHRIST FELLOWSHIP COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE SEVERE IMPACT IT HAD IN MY LIFE AND I HOPE FOR IT TO HAVE THE SAME INCREDIBLE IMPACT IN THE LIFE OF OUR YOUNG ONES IS IT ALREADY IS.
I HOPE THAT IT CONTINUES TO BE AND PERSONALLY EVEN MORE SO.
MY HUSBAND AND I NOW HAVE A DAUGHTER OF OUR OWN.
IT'S EVEN A LITTLE MORE PERSONAL, I'M HOPEFUL THAT MY DAUGHTER GETS TO GROW UP AND NOT JUST A BEAUTIFUL TOWN THAT'S RIGHT BY THE BEACH AND IS THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE.
BUT ALSO IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS FULL OF LOVE AND ENCOURAGEMENT AND SUPPORT AND HOPE.
I THINK YOU SO DEEPLY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR CHURCH, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL ALLOW US TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU. NOW, I GUESS THERE'S REALLY NO CLOSING REMARKS TO MAKE.
COMING BACK DOWN, THE COUNCIL FOR DELIBERATIONS.
I TURN TO COUNCIL ANY COMMENTS OR?
>> I GUESS FOR ME THIS REALLY COMES DOWN TO TRACK UP AN INDIANTOWN ROAD.
IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THE PARTICULAR CHURCH, IT'S THE USE AND THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ROAD.
I WAS ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP MANAGE THIS TRAFFIC.
PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY THING I REALLY HEARD IS THAT WE WOULD NEED SOME SPIRIT OF COOPERATION FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY TO ADJUST THE SIGNALS.
THERE'S NO CONDITION IN THE CURRENT DRAFT TO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY TO REACH SOME ACCOMMODATION.
TO ME, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE TRAFFIC FLOWS.
I KNOW EVERYONE LIKES TO BE OPTIMISTIC THAT IT'LL WORK FINE, BUT WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK FINE? BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS THE MAJOR ARTERY FOR THE TOWN.
WE KNOW THAT OTHER AREAS USE THE ROAD TO GET TO 95 AND THE TURNPIKE.
THE TOWN HAS ALWAYS TAKE AN EXTRA MEASURES FOR TRAFFIC MITIGATION ALONG IN TOWN, THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM, ETC.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT GOES ON INDIANTOWN ROAD AND THE IMPACTS THERE.
FOR ME, I REALLY NEED TO SEE A LOT MORE ON HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE IN GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION WITHOUT HAVING TO SEE THE DETAILS OF THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
SINCE THAT'S GOING TO BE WORKED OUT LATER, BEFORE THE CEO.
BASICALLY WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION, BUT ALL THE FINAL DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT LATER.
I GUESS FOR ME, I JUST NEED TO SEE THIS THIS BEEFED UP QUITE A BIT.
FOR ME TO BE COMFORTABLE I WOULD NEED TO SEE ALSO MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS ON HOLIDAYS, MULTIPLE SERVICES, ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY BECAUSE THE IMPACT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT.
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WE HAVE BRIGHT LINE GOING THROUGH THE BRIDGE, GOES UP, PEOPLE TAKE THEM IN BOATS DOWN TO THE WATER AND THEN YOU HAVE 100 CARS COMING IN AND OUT AT THE SAME TIME.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIANTOWN IS GOING TO REALLY WORK WITH REGARD TO THE SPECIALTY EVENTS PERMIT.
I UNDERSTAND WHY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW OTHER CHURCHES AND OTHER LOCATIONS THAT HAVE ENDED UP HAVING A LOT OF EVENTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THINGS TEND TO SPIRAL OUT OF CONTROL.
YOU'RE NOT INTENTIONALLY, YOU THINK IT'S A SMALL EVENT, BUT NEXT THING YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ON THE BLOCK, DOWN THE BLOCK, THEIR PEACE AND QUIET, IT'S BEEN DISTURBED.
ONE, I REALLY FIND A WAY TO MAYBE HAVE A BETTER DEFINITION OF SMALL ACTIVITIES OR SOMETHING, BUT JUST ANOTHER WAY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY THERE.
I HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE THROUGH MODIFICATIONS OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
>> I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS APPLICATION.
I DID HAVE MY QUESTION AND I WILL WONDER ABOUT THE OTHER USES THAT COULD BE DONE USING A FLEXIBLE SPACE, AUDITORIUM SPACE, SCHOOLS PARTNERSHIPS THAT MAY ARISE.
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BUT I'M GRATEFUL ALSO FOR THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME IN PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE CONDITIONS ADDED DURING THAT MEETING.I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT VIGOROUS REVIEW.
AS I LOOK OVER THE CONDITIONS, WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM TO HELP PROTECT US IN THAT.
I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THAT CARS CAN EXIT WITH THE RIGHT TURN.
I KNOW THEY WERE LOOKING AT LEFT TURN LANES, RIGHT TURN LANES, PARTNERSHIPS LEASING PARKING SPACES.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TOOLS FOR BOTH PARKING AND TRAFFIC.
IT'S GOING TO BE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE NO MATTER WHERE IT WOULD GO IN THE TOWN.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A SCHOOL, IT DOESN'T HAVE THESE OTHER USES AND THOSE WOULD COME AS SEPARATE APPLICATIONS, SO AS IT STANDS, I'M SOMEHOW COMFORTABLE WITH IT, TO BE HONEST.
>> I WOULD AGREE. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING, THE INGRESS, AND EGRESS, AND I THINK BASICALLY A HEART RIGHT ON INDIANTOWN ROAD IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO THAT CAN BE MANAGED.
ANY PROBLEMS THEY CAN BE COLLABORATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF DOWN THE ROAD THEY NEED A DETAIL TO TAKE CARE OF ANY PROMPTS THAT THEY HAVE.
LIKE COUNSELOR [INAUDIBLE] JUST STATED ANY ANY FUTURE USE CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO BE THEIR OWN SPECIALIZED APPLICATION.
I THINK THIS WAS VERY MOTIVATED BY STAFF AND I THINK THE APPLICANT AND STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD.
I WATCHED THE WHOLE PNC APPLICATION PROCESS AND I THOUGHT THEY DID A NICE JOB OF JUST BLOWN OUT SOME ISSUES THAT WERE CONCERNING TO THE COMMISSION AND SOME OF THE STAFF MEMBERS.
I'M READY TO VOTE FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS BUT THE ISSUE WITH THE OUTSIDE EVENTS AND THE SPECIAL PERMITS, THE ATTACHMENT F WAS THERE.
JOHN, I GET YOUR LIST OF THAT, BUT DID APPLICANT AND STAFF GIVE AN EXACT LIST THAT WOULD NOT BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE SPECIAL EVENT CRITERIA? DOES THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT LATER OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE HASH OUT TONIGHT?
>> BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD OFFERED FOR CONSIDERATION ON PAGE 8, [NOISE] WE DID MENTION THAT ONE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE FOR THE APPLICANT TO UPDATE THEIR STATEMENT OF USE TO REFLECT THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THAT ATTACHMENT F. THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO JUST MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE THE BUILDING ARE NOT TO OCCUR IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING OR TO THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING TO MINIMIZE ANY IMPACTS ON THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> IF THERE'S A MOTION MADE, ITS TO EXCLUDE ANYTHING IN THE REAR AND THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING EXCEPT THERE'S THE FRONT.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, THAT'S THE CONDITION.
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 8, BELOW THE HALF POINT OF THE PAGE IN BOLD, INDENTED ON BOTH SIDES IN QUOTES, STATES, UPON SUBMISSION OF THE FINAL PLANS AND PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, THE APPLICANT SHALL UPDATE THE STATEMENT OF USE TO INCLUDE IN DETAIL THE OPERATION OF SMALL ACTIVITIES IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT ARE NOT DEFINED AS SPECIAL PERMITS PER SECTION 27-373 IN TABLE 1, ALL OTHER ACTIVITIES SHALL REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT.
THAT WAS OUR SUGGESTION FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL.
IF YOU WANT TO ADD FLEXIBILITY FROM WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THE RESOLUTION ON PAGE F OF THE RESOLUTION UNDER CONDITIONS 7B.
>> I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY OUR COLLEAGUES ABOUT INDIANTOWN ROAD IMPACTS.
THAT IS, I MEAN YOU HELP ME LOCATING THE CHURCH ALONG THE WORST WORD WHAT WE HAVE PERHAPS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
BUT THAT SAID, I DO BELIEVE IT'S COVERED IN THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
I'M JUST GOING TO EMPHASIZE THAT UNDER THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, I'M READING FROM PAGE E,
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IT DOES SAY THAT PRIOR TO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, THE APPLICANT HAS TO DEVELOP A TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MANAGEMENT PLAN IN THE NER SUBJECT TO THE PROFESSIONALS IN THE TOWN AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF.I FEEL LIKE THAT'S COVERED IN THE RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE ON PAGE 8 THAT WAS READ WHICH I DO SUPPORT THAT ADDED LANGUAGE.
I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, I'M JUST GOING TO PROPOSE THIS HERE.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CONSIDER IT IN MOTION THAT IN THE RESOLUTION ON PAGE F WHERE IT SAYS OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, WE COULD CHANGE THE LANGUAGE ON B THAT'S IN THERE TO SAY THAT ANY ACTIVITIES PROPOSED TO BE CONDUCTED OUTSIDE TO THE REAR OR THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT.
I REALIZE WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS IS TO WRITE GIRL SCOUT COOKIE SALES AND STUFF, BUT THEY WOULD BE IN THE FRONT, WHICH IS LEAST IMPACT AND WHATEVER OTHER TYPE EVENTS.
I DON T THINK THAT'D BE PROBLEMATIC AS WE SUGGESTED, I THINK IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION TO EXCLUDE THE REAR AND THE SIDE, AND THEN IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE ADDED, WHICH MR. SACKLER READ TAKE WITH YOUR STATE HAD A SENTENCE THAT WHAT THEY SUBMIT IS STILL SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF PLANNING STAFF.
WE WANT IT TO BE INTERPRETED THAT WHATEVER THEY PUT IN THAT LIST GETS ACCEPTED.
ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
>> I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE CONDITION 5 AND THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAN INCLUDED THE HOLIDAYS BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED HAS JUST BEEN THE TWO THINGS ON SUNDAY AND ON WEDNESDAY.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FULL PANOPLY OF WHAT'S GOING TO OCCUR IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE ANALYSIS.
I WILL APPRECIATE IT IF WE COULD BEEF THAT UP.
>> WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION CAN INCLUDE WHATEVER REVISIONS HERE.
>> I AGREE WITH THE BECAUSE I'M ON PAGE 8, THE STAFF LANGUAGE DOES SAY INCLUDE IN DETAIL, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN REACH CONSENSUS OR APPROVAL ON IT.
I AGREE TO HAVE THAT GO BACK TO STAFF AND IT DOES SEEM THAT IT WOULD BE AN EASY CONCESSION TO EXCLUDE THE REAR INSIDE ON HOLIDAYS.
TO GO BACK TO LANGUAGE, I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN THAT SO TO HAVE A FULL PICTURE TO ADD IT.
>> ADDING REARING SIDES WITH A SPECIAL PERMIT OR NO?
>> WELL, NO IN THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PLAN THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED.
IT WOULDN'T JUST BE FOR THE REGULAR OPERATION OF WEDNESDAYS AND SUNDAYS, BUT IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE HOLIDAYS AND GET A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF THE ACTIVITY AND HOW TRAFFIC MIGHT BE MADE.
>> WAS THAT A MOTION INCLUDING THAT AMENDMENT AS WELL, THAT YOU'RE MAKING?
>> I WASN'T MAKING A MOTION, BUT I CAN MAKE A MOTION.
>> YOU HAVE CAPTURED EVERYTHING.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE LANGUAGE PROVIDED ON PAGE 8 BY STAFF TO INCLUDE IN DETAIL THE OPERATION OF SMALL ACTIVITIES, SO THE GRANT THAT FLEXIBILITY, HOWEVER, TO ALLOW APPROVAL BY PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF OF THOSE SMALLER ACTIVITIES AND TO EXCLUDE THE REAR INSIDE.
IN ADDITION, ON THE CONDITION RELATED TO TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CIRCULATION TO INCLUDE THAT MORE COMPLETE PICTURE FOR HOLIDAYS, TO INCLUDE THAT IN ANY PLAN FOR TRAFFIC.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NO, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE APPRECIATE THE DELIBERATION, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
>> I'LL GIVE EVERYBODY A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO DEPART.
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MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13, ROUNDTABLE,[13.Discussion of the 2023 strategic initiative on Areas of Local Importance]
A CONTINUATION, BUT I GUESS BEGIN ALL OVER HERE.SINCE WE HAD ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WASN'T HERE SO YOU HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION, I GUESS IF YOU COULD RUN THROUGH THAT.
>> STEPHANIE THURBER IN PLANNING AND ZONING, SINCE MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF BUT HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION SO THAT VICE MAYOR SCHNEIDER CAN PROVIDE HER INPUT.
THIS IS A CONTINUATION, THE MAIN ITEMS ARE FOR PART OF THE 2023 STRATEGIC INITIATIVE, WHICH IS PART OF THIS ACTION ITEM IS TO CREATE AREAS, IDENTIFY AREAS OF LOCAL IMPORTANCE.
THEN REALLY THE MAIN ITEMS TO DISCUSS, WHICH MOST OF US HAVE ALREADY SEEN THIS, ACTUALLY, ALL OF US PROBABLY, IS ARE THESE MAIN QUESTIONS AND WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU THE INFORMATION OF WHAT IS EXISTING AND THEN GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS OF WHERE DO YOU SEE THE IMPORTANT AREAS, WHAT ARE THE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE DRIVING THIS STRATEGIC INITIATIVE, AND THEN WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE TO STRENGTHEN THE CODE.
JUST VERY QUICKLY, THIS IS A MATRIX OF OUR EXISTING SIX AREAS THAT ARE DEFINED IN OUR CODE ALREADY, THREE ARE SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THREE ARE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREAS, AND THEY HAVE VARYING DEGREES OF REGULATION RELATED TO CHARACTERISTIC ITEMS SUCH AS ARCHITECTURE AND SITE DESIGN, VERY LIMITED REGULATIONS REGARDING HISTORY, BUT ALSO PROVIDES SPECIAL LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.
THE MAIN ITEMS IN THE MAIN AREAS TO LOOK AT IS WE TALKED ABOUT COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, OR INDUSTRIAL AREAS.
AT THE LAST MEETING, THE DISCUSSION WAS TO TRY AND FOCUS IN ON THE AREAS OF IMPORTANCE AND REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE OBJECTIVES WERE, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SLIDE PROVIDES IS LIKE, WHAT ARE THE OBJECTIVES? WERE THEY ABOUT SCALE AND MASSING HEIGHT, PROTECTION OF VIEW-SHEDS, PRESERVING TREE CANOPY, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S IN THE CENTER STREET ALTERNATE A1A REDEVELOPMENT OR RELAY AREA.
THEN THESE ARE THE THREE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREAS WHERE AT THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT TRYING TO ALIGN THE EXISTING REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREAS WITH WHAT THIS CURRENT COUNCIL GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE, WHICH WAS BASICALLY A LOT OF THE MAIN DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST TIME ON APRIL THE 4TH AND THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS AND NARROW THAT SUBJECT GENERALLY TO CENTER STREET AND ALTERNATE A1A BUT VICE MAYOR BECAUSE THIS WAS YOUR ITEM THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, THEY WANTED TO WAIT FOR YOU AND HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL INPUT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PRESENTATION AND REALLY I WANTED CONFIRMATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE FOCUS ON CENTER STREET AND ALTERNATE A1A WAS INDEED THE THOUGHT AND THEN IF THERE WERE REALLY MORE SPECIFICALLY AS WE MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS CHANGES TO THESE AREAS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA.
WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS SO THAT WHEN WE COME
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BACK TO YOU WITH ANY ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS, WE CAN HAVE THAT READY? WITH THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO GET MY INPUT [LAUGHTER].>> WE HAD TALKED BEFORE AND I THINK THAT STARTING WITH THE CENTER STREET AREA, ROA WOULD BE A GOOD TEST CASE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO PROTECT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN GUIDELINES AND HISTORY, TO TRY TO KEEP IT MORE OF AN OLD TOWN, JUPITER FEEL.
I KNOW IT'S A MIX IN THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT MY THOUGHT WAS TO TRY TO TAKE ON TOO MANY AREAS TO START THERE AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO TRY AND PROTECT SOME OF THE IMPORTANT AREAS THAT WE HAVE BACK THERE.
>> JUST TO ADD OR COMMENT TO THAT BECAUSE COUNCILOR ANGSTROM, DURING YOUR ABSENCE EMPHASIZED THAT THAT WAS A RARE COLLECTION OF WHAT YOU WERE PROPOSING ON THIS ITEM.
NONETHELESS, WHEN NEW COUNCIL FOR WHEN THESE WERE ALL DONE, I AGREE WITH THAT THE PRIORITY I JUST WANT TO GIVE ONE STATUS ON THE TELEPENA MONTEREY.
I DO THINK I'M NOT SAYING NOW TO GET STARTED ON IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE NUMBER 1, THAT WAS CENTERED AROUND THE TRI-RAIL STATION WHEN IT WAS DONE.
IT WAS ALSO DONE BEFORE JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER BOUGHT OFF HALF OF THE PROPERTY OVER THERE AND SO ON THE TPA, AND WE'RE EMBARKING ON AN UPDATED LONG-TERM PLAN JUST BEGINNING THAT PROCESS.
IT'S ABOUT A YEAR-AND-A-HALF, TWO-YEAR PROCESS BUT I HAD HEARD SOME RUMORS ABOUT PERHAPS THE MEDICAL CENTERS INTEREST OR NOT IN TRI-RAIL AND SO TOWN MANAGER AND I HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK WITH DR. EMMETT RUSTTOGI AND STEVEN SEALY TO DISCUSS THAT ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'VE CORRECTLY PURCHASED A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROPERTY IN ORDER TO BE A TRI-RAIL STATION AND THAT'S THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL BUT AS I INDICATED TO THEM, IT ALWAYS WAS PREDICATED ON ASSUMPTION THAT THE MEDICAL CENTER WANTED IT, IN ANY EVENT, WE BEGAN SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT THAT AND I SHARED WITH THEM SOME INFORMATION ABOUT.
WE ALSO CONVERSED, BY THE WAY, ON WORKFORCE HOUSING, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNEW HOW SINCERE THIS COUNCIL WAS ON WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT HAS TO BE MORE THAN ONE OR TWO HOUSE.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND SO THEY WERE KEEN ON.
TOWN MANAGER AND I HAD SOME REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT OUR SHARED VALUES ON WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT WOULD HELP TOWN RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES OF TOWN BUSINESSES SUCH AS THE MEDICAL CENTER IN TOWN AND SCHOOL DISTRICT ETC.
I SHARED WITH THEM SOMETHING ELSE THAT I PICKED UP AT THE TPA AND IT WAS TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, TRANSIT SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED, SO I MADE A CONNECTION FOR THEM BECAUSE ANYWAY, WITHOUT GOING ANY MORE DETAIL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE GOOD ALIGNMENT.
I DIDN'T FORCE THEM TO SAY THEIR OPINION, THEY HAD TO RESERVATIONS ABOUT A TRI-RAIL STATION AND ONE OF THEM WHO IS LEGITIMATE IF IT WAS THE FARTHEST NORTHERN MOST TERMINUS OF TRI-RAIL, THEN THEY'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH COMING AND PARKING IN A GARAGE AND HOW WOULD THAT BE CONTROLLED? THEY WERE CONCERNED AND I INDICATE TO THEM I WASN'T THERE ASKING FOR THEM TO PROVIDE PARKING SPACES, BUT I WAS CANDID WITH THEM THAT IF WE WERE TO HAVE TO DO A STATION AND WE NEEDED PARKING STATION.
THEY HAVE PROPERTY, SO WE'RE GOING TO JUST PROCEED COLLABORATING ON THAT AND WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED WHERE YOU CAN CONVERSE WITH THEM AS WELL.
I DO BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL THAT'S HAPPENED WITH MEDICAL CENTER,
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BUYING UP SO MUCH PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE VISION FOR THAT PROPERTY.AGAIN, THE TOWN MANAGER AND I EMPHASIZED, WELL, GEE, IF THE TRI-RAIL STATION WOULD END UP HERE, WE WOULD NEED PARKING.
THAT WAS THE NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION.
IT'S PREMATURE AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO BEGIN ANY CONVERSATION ON THIS, BUT I WISH TO SAY I'M GATHERING INFORMATION SO THAT MAYBE A YEAR FROM NOW, WE'LL HAVE SOME BASIS IN COLLABORATING WITH THE MEDICAL CENTER FOR MAYBE REDEFINING WHAT THE JUPITER [INAUDIBLE] ROA AREA IS.
>> FOR THAT TO BE IT LEADS TO WHAT HAPPEN TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE THEY ORIGINALLY THAT WAS THE AREA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED.
THEN DO WE SHIFT TO CYPRUS STRIVE TO HAVE THAT BE AN AREA WHERE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CAN THRIVE OR SOMEPLACE ELSE?
>> AGREED. ALL I'M SAYING IS RIGHT NOW IT'S BEEN SOMEWHAT OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND QUITE FRANKLY, YOU'VE SAT AROUND THE TRI-RAIL STATION BECAUSE THE FUNDING FOR THE TRI-RAIL STATION IS FIVE TO TEN YEARS OUT, NO EARLIER THAN THAT.
I SHARE WITH THEM A LOT OF UPDATES AND I'VE ALWAYS HEARD RUMORS ABOUT IT.
BUT I TELL YOU ONE THING IS WHEN THE TPA AMENDS ITS LONG-TERM PLAN, 18 MONTHS, TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
IF TRI-RAIL STATION'S STILL IN THERE, IT'S GOT TO BE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL WANTS IT STILL TO BE IN THERE.
IF THERE'S SENSITIZATION ABOUT THAT, I'M OBLIGATED TO RAISE THAT FLAG HERE.
WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL THAT WAS IN THERE A DECADE AGO.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A WILL TO DO IT.
I NEED THAT COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON THE TPA.
AGAIN, IT WASN'T REALLY JUST FOR THIS, BUT I THINK IT ALL GOES TOGETHER.
I STILL SUPPORT CENTER STREET BEING FIRST, I THINK REALLY VICE MAYOR WHEN YOU BROUGHT THIS ONE UP AND THERE'S GOOD OPPORTUNITY, QUITE FRANKLY TO CONSIDER AN ORDER IN SOME ORDER, ALL OF THEM.
MAYBE WE CONCLUDE NONE. THEY DON'T NEED UPDATE.
I THINK THE CENTER STREET ONE IS PROBABLY EASIER ONE OR EASY.
BUT ONE THAT WE CAN GET STARTED ON AND THEN PONDER ABOUT, WHICH WOULD BE SECOND AND THIRD.
I'M JUST GIVING A STATUS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION THAT WE COULD USE TO RECONSIDER OR REINFORCE WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE TONEY PENNA ROA.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE TONEY PENNA ROA AND TO SOME EXTENT THE CENTER STREET.
BUT WITH REGARDS TO YOU IN THE VILLAGE, AND I DON'T WANT TO PRIORITIZE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THE CRA PLAN UPDATE.
BUT HOW DID THOSE TWO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER?
>> THE CRA PLAN IN THE INLET VILLAGE ROA.
THE CR COVERS A LARGER AREA BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTERS AT BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF INDIANTOWN ROAD IN US ONE.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL AREAS BUT IT'S MORE OF AN OVERLAPPING THEME.
AS FAR AS THE ROA AND THE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND THE ZONING DISTRICTS VERSUS THE CRA, WHICH IS MORE GOAL ORIENTED ENVISIONING, AND HERE'S THE BIG PICTURE [NOISE] A PLAN TO WORK TOWARDS.
BASED ON THE DIRECTION I'M HEARING TONIGHT, I HEAR THAT CENTER STREET IS THE FIRST PRIORITY.
THEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION FROM APRIL 4TH WAS THAT WHEN WE INITIALLY DEVELOPED THE ROAS, THERE WAS AN OBSERVATION AND THE LIKELIHOOD THAT ONCE THE TONEY PENNA ROA WAS MORE DEFINED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE TRAIN OR REDEVELOPMENT WITH THE HOSPITAL, THAT THERE WOULD BE A NEED TO DO PERHAPS AN ADDITIONAL REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA WITH THE OLD DIXIE INDUSTRIAL AREA BEHIND THE ALE HOUSE AND ALL THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE ROOM OR MAKE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE INDUSTRIAL MOM-AND-POP USES.
I HEAR CENTER STREET, TONEY PENNA IN CONJUNCTION, PROBABLY ADDING AT THE INDUSTRIAL WHICH WE HAD ANTICIPATED OVER TEN YEARS AGO IN 2009, 2010 WHEN WE ADOPTED IT.
THEN WE CAN MOVE ON OUR OWN WITH THE CRA PLAN,
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AND THEN ALSO WITH THE OTHER STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ON BONUSES AND PEDS THAT ALSO RELATES TO THAT AREA AS WELL.>> [NOISE] I'D AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE CENTER STREET.
I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE HEART AND SOMETHING.
THERE'S A SENSE OF URGENCY AROUND IT AND IT'S IN A WAY WITH TONEY PENNA.
JUST FOR A PERSPECTIVE, I AGREE WITH INDUSTRIAL.
JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER IS ONE OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN THE TOWN.
THEY CONTRIBUTE A NUMBER OF JOBS AND THEY DO HAVE A VISION FOR THAT PROPERTY.
IT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL, SO WE HAVE TO SORT THAT OUT AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH CONTROL OVER IT.
I HAVE A LIMITED VIEW INTO THE WORLD OF TRANSPORTATION.
I'M NOT ON A BOARD THAT WORKS ON IT, BUT WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THINKING IN THAT GROUP, I'M LEARNING THAT.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW TRI-RAIL INTERACTS WITH BRIGHT-LINE AND NUMBER OF STATIONS AND CRITERIA.
I KNOW THAT GARDENS IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO GET A STATION.
YOU NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DENSITY, TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S YOU NEED A LOT OF DENSITY AROUND THOSE STATIONS AND GARDENS SEEMS TO BE PROVIDING IT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY CHANGE AN AREA [LAUGHTER] TO HAVE A STATION.
IT CERTAINLY IS A REALLY BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION POTENTIALLY, BUT I KNOW LITTLE ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF IF THERE WERE TO BE A STATION AND GARDENS, HOW AND WHAT KIND AND THE GOALS AROUND IT.
I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR VIEW INTO THAT.
>> YES. EXACTLY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> DOES BRIGHTLINE HAVE TO STOP SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FULL-BLOWN STATION? I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH IT.
>> YOU SAID THE TRI-RAIL, DO THEY HAVE JUST STOPS? I'M GOING TO TRY REAL THING HAS BEEN BUBBLING, SIZZLING RIGHT AND LEFT.
>> WELL, FIRST JUST TO COMMENT, SINCE I AM ON THE LIST TPA AND WE'VE CONVERSED ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
NUMBER 1 IS, I HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN A BIG FAN OF TRANSIT BECAUSE HOW IT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE TOWN.
I'LL MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR AND THE GARDENS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND WITH THEIR STATION IS GOING TO BE AS PERFECT.
IT'S TRULY TRANSIT ORIENTED WITH THE INTENSITY THEY'RE DOING AROUND THAT.
THE ONLY REAL BENEFIT HAVE DRIVEN FAMILY MEMBERS TOO FROM IGNORING A PARK STATION NOW.
THE GARDENS WILL BE CLOSER SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN JUPITER WOULD PROBABLY FEEL THAT WOULD WORK.
IN THE CONCEPT OF, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING AT THE MEDICAL CENTER WAS NUMBER 1 IS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT A MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTER LIKE A HOSPITAL, IS THE PERFECT FOR TRANSIT, NOT PEOPLE LEAVING FROM THERE BUT ARRIVING THERE.
WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT AND IN FACT, WE LEARNED THAT WITH INCOME LEVELS OF THEIR STAFF, THE LOWER LEVEL INCOME EMPLOYEES AT MEDICAL CENTER CAME FROM THE SOUTH.
THEY COULD BE COMING UP ON TRI-WHEEL, GETTING OFF, WORKING, AND THEN GOING BACK.
AGAIN THAT'S WHAT I HAD ALWAYS HURTING IS THE CASE, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THE CONCEPT OF TRI-WHEEL COMING UP HERE CAME UP, THE FIRST THING I DID WAS I GATHERED THE RIDERSHIP AT EVERY STATION ALONG TRI-WHEEL.
NOW BECAUSE I KNEW HE'D BEEN INSTRUMENT FOR YEARS AND I WONDERED, HEY, WHAT IS THE RIDERSHIP? WELL, A LOT OF THEM IS NOT THAT HIGH.
YOU HAVE ATTRACTORS FOR THE MOST PART.
BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER WITH A MEDICAL CENTER AND IT FITS WITH OUR EXPERIENCES TO TOWN.
MINE IS IN MY DAY JOB IS THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING IS TO THE NORTH AND THAT'S WHAT THE MEDICAL CENTER INDICATED.
FOR THEM, IF IT WERE TO GO NORTH, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR EMPLOYEES COMING INTO JUPITER, CERTAINLY THE MEDICAL CENTER, RATHER THAN HAVING TO COMMUTE HERE.
I HAVE AN ACTION ITEM TO FOLLOW UP TO CONFIRM OR TO FIND
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OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMELINE TO A TRAILER COULD BE EXTENDED TO THE NORTH.THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SITUATION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT HERE, WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING.
WELL, ONE WAY WORKFORCE HOUSING IS YOU DON'T HAVE TRANSIT THAT BRINGS WORKFORCE HERE FROM THE NORTH WHERE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS AND HAS BEEN.
IN FACT, IN THE LAST TWO MEETINGS WITH TPA, WE HAD ONE MEETING WHERE THERE'S A I95 DEBT WHEN BOULEVARD EXIT, WHICH I KNOW VERY WELL, A FAMILY WHICH LIVED THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
THEY PUT IN A PARK AND RIDE STATION.
FDOT IS GOING TO BE FUNDING FOR THREE YEARS A BUS PICKUP FROM THAT LOCATION AND PORTS IN LUCY BRING THEM DOWN INTO PALM BEACH COUNTY.
TENTATIVELY WAS ANY MIGHT'VE READ SOMETHING ABOUT AND I THINK YESTERDAY OR DAY BEFORE IN THE PAPER.
WHAT I'M TALKING MAYBE COME INTO WEST PALM BUT YOU COULD SEE HOW AGAIN, AS WE STRUGGLE IN WORKFORCE HOUSING THE BEST OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE IN ADDITION TO THESE REAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT POP UP PERHAPS, IS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT LIVE TO THE NORTH FOR US IN NORTH COUNTY COULD HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY WITH THOSE TYPE OF SYSTEMS SO THAT WAS WHO I CONNECTED UP WITH THE MEDICAL CENTER.
THERE'S AN ARM OF FDOT, NOT WITH THE BUS, BUT THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE TRANSIT SERVICES IN MUCH SMALLER SCALE.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT MIGHT EVEN WORK FOR CURRENT EMPLOYEES OR WHATEVER.
BUT MANY EVENT, THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
BUT IF IT'S EVER GOING TO WORK, IN MY VIEW, IT HAS TO EXTEND NORTH TO BRING WORKFORCE DOWN HERE.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A BENEFIT TO THE MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH HAS STIRRED DECISION TO MAKE BECAUSE IF THEY WERE TO SAY NO AND IT WASN'T EXTENDED NORTH.
I'D BE SAYING, WELL, LET IT STOP IN THE GARDENS.
PERSONALLY BUT THOSE ARE QUESTIONS WE HAVE TO HAVE ANSWERED AND TOWN MANAGER AND I ARE BEGINNING TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE MEDICAL CENTER ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONE WORKFORCE THAT COULD JUST GET OFF AND GO TO WORK. PERFECT.
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, OTHER DELEGATIONS, POPULATION TRANSITORY AND DEVELOPMENTAL.
IT'S A BIG TOPIC AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US TO LEARN MORE ABOUT.
I KNOW I'M TRYING TO IN MY OTHER COMMITMENTS.
NOT THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THIS ON.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT [LAUGHTER] WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW AND I DO WANT TO MOVE THE CONVERSATION IN A WAY BACK TO CENTER STREET BECAUSE I THINK THAT SHOULD BE FIRST, BUT I DO THINK WE ALL NEED TO LEARN ABOUT TRANSIT BECAUSE OF ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH DEVELOPMENT AND BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE ON SOUTH FLORIDA RIGHT NOW.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO FULLY UNDERSTAND IT.
>> THE TONY PENA RIA, THAT EXISTS [NOISE] NOW, WHILE IT WAS SOME DENSITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT, IT'S MAJOR AND ALWAYS, NEVER COULD BE ANYTHING LIKE THE GARDENS SO THERE'S A LOT OF STATIONS THAT HAVE NOTHING LIKE THE GARDENS.
I DON'T SEE JUPITER EVER HAVING ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I JUST WANT TO ASSURE EVERYBODY IT'S IN THE PLAN.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME FACTS.
I CAN COME BACK AND WE CAN DECIDE.
I DO THINK THAT'S A RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION, LET'S SAY IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, DO WE KEEP IT IN OR NOT?
>> MAYOR, I DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM. DANIEL WILLIAMS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS DANIEL WILLIAMS. I'M NOT A JUPITER RESIDENT.
THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE EARLY STAGES OF THE FUTURE OF JUPITER.
EVERYTHING FROM THE CRA TO THE ROA THAT YOU HAVE HERE.
WHAT I NOTICED IS THE INLET VILLAGE ROA AND PART OF THAT IS THE REASON WHY I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY.
THERE'S SOME OVERLAP WITH SOME OF THE PLANS IN CRA AND YOUR ROA,
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AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHICH ONE IS WHICH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MASTER PLANS BEING CHANGED CURRENTLY.I THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY I'M NOT USED TO IT, I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT PUBLIC SPEAKING, SO GIVE ME A MINUTE.
I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM 13.
I'M HERE TO INQUIRE AND BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION TO THE MATTER OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE REGARDING THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF JUPITER COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND RIVERWALK PROJECT UP TO THE SPERRY PROPERTY FORMERLY KNOWN AS SUNI SANDS AND THE ROA FOR THE INLET VILLAGE.
IT'S RECENTLY COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE CRA HAS PROPOSED A RIVERWALK EXTENSION TO THE SPERRY BOATHOUSE AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, FDOT DISTRICT 4 HOLD SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE OVER THIS PROJECT DUE TO THEIR RIGHT OF WAY IN INLET JURISDICTION.
FURTHERMORE, THE TCRPC INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CRA EXPANDS THEIR AUTHORITY TO ENACT REGULATIONS ALIGNED WITH FDOT'S RAP FLOODPLAIN RULE WHICH HAS TO BE DONE BY JUNE 30TH, SO THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENTARY ON IT RIGHT NOW ON THE WEBSITE FOR TCRPC.
SECTION 339.157, FLORIDA STATUTES REQUIRES A DEPARTMENT TO DEVELOP A RESILIENT ACTION PLAN OR RAP THAT WILL ASSESS POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF FLOODING STORMS AND SEA-LEVEL RISE ON STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEMS IDENTIFYING STRATEGIES TO IMPROVE THE RESILIENCE OF TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES.
THE DRAFT RESILIENCE ACTION PLAN EXAMINES THE VULNERABILITY OF STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM TO FLOODING STORM SURGE AND SEA LEVEL RISE AND IDENTIFIES POTENTIAL INVESTMENT NEEDS.
THIS PLAN IDENTIFY STRATEGIES FOR ENHANCED RESILIENCE IN ALL ASPECTS OF HOW FDOT PLANS DEVELOPS, DESIGNS, CONSTRUCTS, OPERATES, AND MAINTAINS THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
THESE POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE CRA PLAN COUPLED WITH CRA BOARD'S AUTHORITY TO MODIFY ZONING REGULATIONS AND ENFORCE THE PLAN, RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF TRIBAL REMAINS AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL ARTIFACTS.
MY QUESTION IS IF FDOT HAS JURISDICTION ON REGULATORY POWERS AND THE FDOT RAP TAKES INTO ACCOUNT HISTORICAL PRESERVATION WITH EXEMPTIONS TO CERTAIN RULES THAT MAY IMPACT FDOT RAP WITH REGARDS TO FLOOD REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SPERRY PROPERTY AND ADJACENT AND BUDDING PROPERTIES, THEN HAS AN ASSESSMENT BEEN DONE OR STARTED BY FDOT TO ADDRESS THE TRIBAL AND HISTORICAL CONCERNS WITH REGARDS TO THE RIVERWALK IN THIS PROPERTY? OF ADDITIONAL CONCERN IS THE STATEMENT WITHIN THE EXISTING PLAN OF THE CRA THAT INDICATES THE CRA BOARD WILL NOT ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN ARCHAEOLOGICAL PRESERVATION.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S CONCERNING TO ALL TRIBAL MEMBERS BECAUSE IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT YOU GUYS ARE HAVING OUT AND THAT MEANS THAT THROUGH REGULATION AND WITHOUT HAVING EXEMPTIONS TO ARCHAEOLOGICAL PRESERVATION THAT THESE PLANS COULD LEAD TO DIGGING ON THAT PROPERTY IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THAT RIVERWALK FOR WHICH THE TOWN DESPERATELY WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THEIR PLANS SINCE 2012.
NOW, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE AND I'LL [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO WRAP UP.
TODAY I STARTED THE PROCESS TO INFORM THE STATE TO NOMINATE THE SPERRY PROPERTY FOR NATIONAL HISTORICAL REGISTRATION VIA THE ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONNAIRE.
WHAT IT DOES IS SYMBOLIC, BUT IT DOES IT IN THE SENSE OF LOOKING FOR ELIGIBILITY, NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING IT ON THE RECORD, BUT IT FITS WITHIN THE FDOT'S PLAN WITH REGARDS TO EXEMPTIONS TO ALLOW FOR THE REACH OUT WITH THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO REACH OUT TO THE TRIBES.
ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU GUYS REACH OUT TO THE TRIBAL MEMBERS WITH REGARDS TO YOUR RIVERWALK PROJECT AS IT RELATES TO THE SPERRY BOATHOUSE AND CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ARE AGAINST ANYBODY THAT'S GOING AGAINST THE TRIBAL REMAINS AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL REMAINS ON OUR PROPERTY. THANK YOU.
>> BACK TO COUNCIL, ONE QUESTION I LIKE IS WHAT IS THE BOUNDARIES THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ON CENTER STREET FOR THE AREA? [OVERLAPPING] HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?
>> THE EXISTING BOUNDARIES TODAY ARE IN THIS TEAL AND BLACK DASHED LINE,
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SO THEY GO UP TO THEY ENCOMPASS THAT DIVE SHOP PROPERTY SOUTH OF THE SAWFISH BAY PARK ALONG ALTERNATE A1A, AND THEN SOUTH DOWN TO IT ENCOMPASSES THE BAIT SHOP GRAND SLAM THAT FAR SOUTH AND THEN HEADS WEST AND UP UNTIL THE NEW STORAGE WORLD, THE STORAGE YARD EVERY, SO IT GOES UP AND IT'S LIKE A LITTLE DOG LEG AND THEN GOES UP TO THE STORAGE AREA, SO IT COMES ALL THE WAY UP, SO IT COMES UP HERE AND THEN TURNS AND THEN COMES AROUND.SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE OLD TOWN HALL AREA, DOES NOT INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THE ONLY INDUSTRIAL IS THAT PORTION THAT WAS THE STORAGE BUILDING THAT WAS JUST REDEVELOPED, BUT IT'S PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL.
IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT OTHER AREAS, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND WE CAN BRING BACK ANY OPPORTUNITIES AND DO THE PROS AND CONS LISTS FOR IT.
>> EVERYONE SUGGESTING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS THAT WE ALL HAVE IN OUR MIND WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE, WE COULD REDUCE THEM, WE COULD INCREASE THEM.
>> I HAD WANTED TO INCLUDE THE OLD TOWN HALL AREA AS WELL WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE TWEAKING THIS A BIT.
>> I'M WONDERING, SO IT'S IN RESIDENTIAL.
I JUST WENT THROUGH HRV, THE LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR THE OLD TOWN HALL THAT WILL COME TO US SOON AND THERE'S THE ROAD OLD TOWN HALL AVENUE, BUT GIVEN THAT IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND NOT COMMERCIAL, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT?
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO, I THINK MAYOR KURETSKI YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT DURING THE EARLY 2000S, WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT A HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH INCLUDED THE OLD TOWN HALL, THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS FROM THAT AREA RELATED TO ANY ADDITIONAL CONTROLS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE REGULATIONS AND ZONING DISTRICTS THAT AREN'T HISTORIC DISTRICTS BUT THEN PROMOTE HISTORIC COMPATIBILITY.
BUT THEY ARE NOT HISTORIC DISTRICTS, SO THERE ARE OTHER METHODS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IN OTHER CITIES WHICH IS THE ONE IN THE CAROLINAS AS WELL AS ST.
PETERSBURG WHICH HAS A LOT OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES WHERE THEY'VE USED AN OVERLAPPING OF REGULATION RELATED TO COMPATIBILITY AND HISTORY SO THAT ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ANY ADDITIONS ARE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO WHAT IS THERE AND THE CHARACTER THAT'S THERE, SO IF THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AND BRING YOU THE PROS AND CONS, SO THEN YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT.
I HEAR THAT THERE'S ALSO THE ADAPTIVE REUSE THAT HAS OCCURRED ON THE TWO STRUCTURES ALONG CENTER STREET THAT IS A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST OF THE RAILWALK TODAY, SO WE CAN ALSO BRING THAT IN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE THOSE ARE IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, BUT THEY HAVE COMMERCIAL CHARACTERISTICS.
>> AGAIN I WAS TRYING TO GET MY MEMORY REFRESHED, BUT THEN ALSO WAS IT SOMEWHERE ELSE WE DEALT WITH THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA LIKE ON EACH TO PLAN GORDON'S NORTH? WAS THAT IN THE CODE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> SIR, WE DO HEAR YOUR MEMORY'S CORRECT.
WE TALKED ABOUT IN 2009-2010, ADOPTING A ROA FOR THE INDUSTRIAL AREA BEHIND OLD DIXIE AND THE ALE HOUSE.
WE DID NOT ADOPT A ROA FOR THAT.
>> BUT WHAT I HEARD IS THAT WHEN WE DO AND LOOK AT THE ROA FOR TONEY PENNA AND AUGMENTING THAT, WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT HOW THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES CAN BE ACCOMMODATED IN OTHER PLACES IN THE TOWN LIKE OLD DIXIE INDUSTRIAL.
>> WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BACK IN WE SAID IT WAS 09, WAS THAT SO THE TONEY PENNA TENANTS OR OWNERS COULD HAVE A LANDING SPOT? REMEMBER WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT A WHILE AGO.
>> YES BECAUSE THE REGULATIONS,
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THEY'RE EXISTING NON-CONFORMING LOTS SO TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE LOTS TO REDEVELOP AND TO ALLOW THOSE USES TO PERHAPS RELOCATE.>> YOU KNOW THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, I THINK WAS PRETTY UNANIMOUS, WAS CONCERNED ABOUT PRESERVING SOME OF THEIR TRADITIONAL INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND PLANT GARDENS.
[INAUDIBLE], I STILL REMEMBER THIS VIVIDLY.
WHEN THEY ENVISIONED ONE AS A CHARTER NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT WAS A SURPRISE, BUT PLEASED THAT THEY VIEWED THAT INDUSTRIAL AREA AS A GYM FOR THEM BECAUSE IT WAS WORKPLACE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE SO WE HAD THAT ON OUR MIND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SOMEHOW PRESERVED TO BE REDEVELOPED.
THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS MAP AND WE'RE SEEING ON THE MAP SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL GETTING OUR HEAD AROUND JUST WHAT WE'RE STARTING WITH VERSUS WHAT WE'RE NOT.
>> I REMEMBER DISCUSSING KEEPING THOSE INDUSTRIES LOCAL FOR THE RESIDENTS OF JUPITER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET ONTO THE GARDENS.
HOPE SOUND TO GET YOUR CAR WORKED ON OR WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING.
>> I WOULD JUST ALSO NOTE REGARDING THE CENTER STREET ITEM, THE CENTER STREET ALTERNATE A1A ROA, I DID CONFIRM WITH THE TPA THAT THE CENTER STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT THE COUNTIES HAD LISTED ON THEIR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS STILL IN THE PLAN.
IT WAS ERRONEOUSLY LEFT OFF, SO THEY'RE IN THE DESIGN.
THEY'RE GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO SECURE A CONSULTANT AND I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE COUNTY REGARDING THAT.
THE COORDINATION OF THAT DESIGN WORK ALONGSIDE THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE CENTER STREET AND ALTERNATE A1A ROA WILL BE KEY, AND WE HAD ALSO SAID TO THE COUNTY, PUBLIC INPUT WILL BE IMPORTANT AS THEY DESIGN AND GET INPUT ON THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG CENTER STREET.
>> WHO WERE YOU COMMUNICATING WITH AT THE COUNTY ON THAT?
>> I WANT TO SAY IT WAS THIS LADY NAMED ROSARIO.
>> BUT I HAVE THE EMAIL AND I CAN [OVERLAPPING].
>> COULD YOU FORWARD IT TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH THAT TOO BECAUSE I THOUGHT I GOT PULLED OUT OF THE BUDGET.
>> YES, AND I HEARD YOU AND THEN I CHECKED UP ON IT.
I WAS GOING TO DO A LITTLE WEEKLY UPDATE AND THEN I CAN [OVERLAPPING] GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION FOR THIS WEEK.
BUT WHILE WE ARE TALKING I WANTED TO PROVIDE IT BECAUSE I THINK THE COORDINATION OF ANY REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY AREA AND DISCUSSION OF CHARACTER NEEDS TO BE PARAMOUNT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE ROADWAY.
>> AGREED AND THAT'S IT. THEN WHEN THE COUNTY IS DOING THE DESIGN IS WHEN THE TUNNEL CAN HAVE THE INPUT OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THERE, AND WE MAY VERY WELL HAVE TO FUND THE INCREMENTS, BUT THAT'D BE THE TIME TO DO IT.
>> YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A SENSE OF URGENCY AND WE CAN TIME THIS RIGHT, SO THAT WE DO HAVE A NEXT ONE, BUT THIS IS A STRATEGIC ITEM OF COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THIS, SO IT IS A PRIORITY.
>> CAN I JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT I UNDERSTOOD? IF YOU DON'T MIND? STARTING PRIORITIZING WITH CENTER STREET ALTERNATE A1A FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR, WE WILL COME BACK AND UPDATE YOU WHEN THAT WORK CAN COME THROUGH AND ANY TEXT AMENDMENTS COORDINATING WITH THE CENTER STREET TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS WELL.
THE SECOND PHASE WILL INCLUDE TONEY PENNA AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT AND THAT WILL BE COORDINATED WITH THE WORK THAT THE HOSPITAL IS DOING BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT A 2025 TIMEFRAME IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD, SO WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY WORK IN COORDINATION WITH THEM AND CONCURRENTLY ALSO LOOKING AT AN OLD DIXIE INDUSTRIAL REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY IN ASSOCIATION WITH THAT.
WE WON'T BE DOING ANYTHING WITH THE ROAS RELATED TO THIS FOR INLET VILLAGE THAT IS SEPARATE WITH THE CRAS.
>> OKAY. LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK.
>> TONIGHT'S NOT THE NIGHT BUT, I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT IDEAS ARE THERE FOR CHANGES TO THIS?
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WE OUGHT TO START SOME TYPE OF BRAINSTORM LIST OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT.>> ALSO LIKE WHAT LEVEL OF PUBLIC INPUT YOU'D WANT, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.
IF YOU WANT IT TO BE A WORKSHOP.
>> I'M HESITANT TO SAY ANYTHING.
I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH ALIGNMENT ON THIS COUNCIL WITH REGARDS TO PLANNING AND ZONING, THERE'S A LOT COMING AT YOU GUYS.
I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.
IN THE CENTER STREET AND IN MAYBE THE CRA WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC.
IT CAN'T BE OPEN OR IT WON'T BE PRODUCTIVE AND SO WE WOULD BRAINSTORM FIRST.
I THINK PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE A HISTORIC, PEDESTRIAN SCALE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY MAIN STREET, SO THE COUNTY PLANS MAY NOT WORK WITH THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WORK OUT TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.
THAT'S MY MAIN OVERARCHING CONCERN AND THAT WOULD BE THE KIND OF CHARACTER I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THROUGH A NUMBER OF MEANS.
>> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY.
THEIR PLAN IS TO THREE LANE IT SIMPLISTICALLY.
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN ADDITION TO THAT, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'D BE HONEST TO FUND.
I DON'T THINK THEY'D HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT BUT THEY'RE JUST YOUR OWN OPINION.
THEY STARTED WITH THE THREE LANING AND THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECT WAS ABOUT.
I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE UNLESS PEOPLE DON'T WANT A THREE LANE.
>> THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE DOWN THERE IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT.
>> BUT WE CAN PULL THAT, AND THAT BRIDGE IS WIDE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THREE LANE, CORRECT?
>> YEAH. BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL SAMSON SAID THAT I DO THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE WE GO OUT.
>> THERE'S ALARMING TRAFFIC TOO ON THAT ROAD.
>> WHICH IS WHY [OVERLAPPING] IT WAS THE FIRST CALLS ROADWAY IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S OVERCAPACITY, BUT THERE WAS THOSE DAYS WAS INTENTIONALLY CONSTRAINED, SO WE KNOW THAT IN THEORY WOULD BE IMPROVED FOR TRAFFIC IF YOU WIDENED IT, BUT IT WOULD DESTROY THE CHARACTER.
WE LIVE WITH IT AND BUILT OUT TO BE A THREE LANE ROAD, BUT THEN HOPEFULLY NOT ALLOWED THE DENSITY TO GET OUT OF HAND.
I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES IF SOMEHOW EVERYBODY COULD GET WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE YOUR IDEAS ARE LISTED.
NOT NECESSARILY BY NAME IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE DOING THAT, BUT JUST I'D LIKE TO SEE A LISTING.
AS WE SAID, OFTEN WE ARE IN ALIGNMENT BUT.
>> WELL, LET'S FIND OUT. [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER]
>> I LOVE FLOWER POTS AND BEAUTIFUL LIGHT POLES.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH FLOWER POTS.
>> AND BANNERS. I KNOW YOU LIKE BANNERS.
>> OKAY. NOT THE FLOWER POTS THOUGH.
>> THEN WE'LL GET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN I THINK MAYBE AFTER THAT, WE SHOULD DO A ROUNDTABLE.
>> WHATEVER STAFF'S IDEAS ARE, BECAUSE A ROUNDTABLE WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE IS IF WE HAD SOME ITEMS TO GO THROUGH TO BUILD CONSENSUS ON AS OPPOSED TO END THE MEETING, DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR THE LIST ALREADY. THANK YOU.
MOVE IT UNDER REPORTS. TURN TO ATTORNEY.
[TOWN MANAGER]
>> JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, MAYOR. THANK YOU.
AGAIN, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE FOLKS.
THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST THANKLESS JOBS, PROBABLY LIKE WORKING FOR THE IRS AND SOME OF THOSE FOLKS, I WAS LOOKING AT WHO IS HERE AND THEY WERE HERE WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2005.
A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR YOUR SCHEDULES TO REMEMBER.
IF YOU'RE INCLINED, WE HAVE THE TOPPING-OFF CEREMONY FOR THE NEW TOWN HALL.
THAT'S THIS THURSDAY AT 12:00 PM WORKING ON TRYING TO GET YOU GUYS A TOUR OF THE BUILDING AND SO IF YOU CAN MAKE IT MAKE SURE YOU BRING YOUR HARD HEART AND SO THAT WE CAN GET YOU IN THERE.
REMINDER ALSO, WE HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 22ND.
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THE SPERRY HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 27TH.IF WE NEED A SECOND NIGHT, THAT WILL BE JUNE 28TH, THE FOLLOWING NIGHT.
I CAN ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THE AWARDS THAT SOME OF THE POLICE OFFICERS RECEIVED.
OFFICER TRISH HAIZA RECEIVED THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD FROM THE JUPITER LIGHT LODGE MASON LAUNCH AND OFFICER DAN ZITES, RECEIVED THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AWARD AND CAPTAIN SALVEMINI A LIFESAVING AWARD FROM THAT FIRST RESPONDERS APPRECIATION FOUNDATION.
THOSE ARE BIG AWARDS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS ALL THE WAY UP INTO PORT ST. LUCIE.
TO WIN THOSE AWARDS IS A GREAT HONOR.
THEN I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT POLICE CHIEF IS CELEBRATING 25 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
I THINK HE STARTED WHEN HE WAS FOUR YEARS OLD BECAUSE OF HOW YOUNG HE LOOKS.
ANYWAY, THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR.
[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]
>> JUST TO COMMENT ON THE REBUILDING OF THE DRAWBRIDGE.
I PROBABLY GO UNDER THAT EVERY WEEKEND AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE REALLY CRANKING.
THAT BEING BUILT THEY NEED TO BEND DOWN THERE OR WALK IT OR.
>> I THINK RECENTLY I SAW SOME ARIDOS OR WHATEVER SOMEBODY HAD POSTED.
>> THERE 24/7 DOWN THERE SO INCENTIVIZED TO DO UP WITH IT.
LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE REALLY MOVING ON IT.
>> I HAD HER ON TARGET TO GET IT DONE IN JULY WHICH IS MAX MONEY FOR THEM.
>> BECAUSE IT'S SIX MILLION REASONS WHY YOU'RE ON TARGET.
[LAUGHTER] IT'S GOOD INCENTIVIZATION AND THE DETOURS THEY DID I HAVEN'T HEARD OF PROBLEMS. I AM THRILLED AND AMAZED BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE, BUT THEY REALLY HANDLED THAT WELL.
>> THEY DO A NICE JOB BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS REALLY DROPPED OFF THE LAST MONTH.
>> BUT EVEN WHEN THEY STARTED THE FOURTH.
>> I'VE MADE MYSELF DRIVE-THROUGH MORNING AND EVENING RUSH HOUR AND I.
>> UNDERSTAND. BUT IT STARTED AT THE TAIL END OF PEAK SEASON.
WE HAVE ONE PEAK SEASON, THEY GET THROUGH.
>> WE PUSHED AND NUDGED HIM TO DO THAT.
>> I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY SAY THAT I AGREE ON CO-COMPLIANCE. THEY ARE INCREDIBLE.
THEY ARE SMILING, THEY LOOKED VERY AIMED TO GO WHAT THEY GO THROUGH AND TO DO WHAT THEY DO.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY I SPOKE WITH CHRIS SALES AND ASKED HIM FOR SUCCESS STORIES ON WHAT CO-COMPLIANCE DOES BECAUSE WE RECENTLY AMENDED THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO WORK IN NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AT THAT CODE CHANGE, THEY WENT TO THE COMMERCIAL AREAS IN INDIANTOWN ROAD.
IF YOU DRIVE IN INDIANTOWN ROAD YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING TO EDUCATE AND TEACH AND WORK WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN ON THEIR RADAR UNTIL RECENTLY.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS ARE VERY VISIBLE IN A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, AND SO I'M JUST SO PLEASED WITH THAT AND WITH ALL THEY DO AND THAT'S IT.
>> WHEN YOUR DOORBELL RINGS, WHO'S EVER HAPPY TO SEE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER STANDING AT THE FRONT DOOR? THAT'S TOUGH.
>> UNLESS IT'S PAUL OR SOMEONE ELSE IN THERE, AND THEY PULL IT OFF. I DON'T KNOW HOW.
>> IT'S LIKE BLUE LIGHTS IN YOUR RARE VIEW MIRROR
>> DITTO ON THE CODE COMPLIANCE, AS I'VE ALREADY SAID, THAT'S A BURNOUT JOB.
IT TAKES A SPECIAL PERSON TO DO THAT, PUT UP THE GRIEF THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM THE PEOPLE YOU'RE HAVING TO MAKE CHANGES TO AND IT JUST TAKES AN AWFUL AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET ON TO THE FINISH LINE, CONSIDER PATIENTS OR PERSONS HAS PROBABLY EXCESSIVELY SO BUT I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THEY DO, AND THAT THEY'RE STILL MOTIVATED TO DO IT.
WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE SUNNY SANDS MEETINGS TWO NIGHTS.
I JUST ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO THINK ABOUT AND I'LL ASK YOU THAT NIGHT FOR YOUR INPUT OR YOU CAN GIVE IT THROUGH THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE.
BUT I'M WONDERING ABOUT JUST USING THE TWO NIGHTS IF THERE'S A LOGICAL BREAK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT IN THAT MEETING.
BUT NOT KNOWING WHAT TO EXPECT THESE TWO NIGHTS ARE SOME POTENTIAL WITH WE HAD TO SEE HOW THE AGENDA IS WHEN IT GETS CLOSER TO HAVING A GO TO SOME TIME AND THEN WE CONVENE OR BECAUSE I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO BE PUSHING LATE HOURS IF THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THROUGH IT.
>> BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT IN THAT MEETING. IS THAT ALRIGHT?
>> I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG IT WOULD-
>> I DON'T KNOW EITHER. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH IT.
I'M JUST SAYING A NOVELTY OF HAVING TWO MEETINGS.
SOMETIME DOING IT IF COLLECTIVELY WE FAIL TAY.
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BUT I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.>> SHOOTING ME UPSTAIRS FOR THE SHADE MEETING.
>> I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THE PROCESS.
IT'S BASICALLY ARGUMENTS BASED ON THE RECORD.
EACH SIDE IS GOING TO HAVE A HALF-HOUR MAYBE LESS AND WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEN YOU GET TO ASK QUESTIONS.
>> THAT'S IT. THEY DON'T GET ANY MORE TIME.
>> NO REBUTTAL TIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> WELL, THE PETITIONER GETS REBUTTAL, BUT THEY HAVE TO RESERVE IT FROM THERE 30 MINUTES.
>> I HAVEN'T SEEN IF IT IS THAT TIME CONSTRAIN.
>> IT'S AN HOUR PLUS WHATEVER TIME YOU ALL TAKE TO QUESTION AND DELIBERATE.
>> I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE FOR ONE MEETING.
>> I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT THEN.
OTHER ITEM, I DID ATTEND MY FIRST BIOSCIENCE OVERLAY COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE MEET EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS APPARENTLY, BECAUSE WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM 2019, WHICH WAS A TOWN ONE BY THE WAY.
FOR THE RECORD, BACKGROUND DISPOSE SAME SOLELY COMMITTEE WAS FORMED AS PART OF SCRIPTS FLORIDA COMMITMENT TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS I HAVE THE BYLAWS, BUT I THINK IT COULD SUNSET IN 2025, SO SUNSET WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
YOU ONLY CONVENE WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN IS ALLOWED IN THE BIOSCIENCE OVERLAY AREA.
IN 2019, THE TOWN TOOK PROPERTY OUT, SO WAS CHANGING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE BIOSCIENCE-OVERLAID AREA AND IT WAS PROCESSED AS THAT.
WE GO TO ONE IN MAGNOLIA PARK AND SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUILD SOME REALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT GOING ANYTHING FURTHER THAN THAT, BUT IT WAS PROCESSED IN A DIFFERENT WAY WHERE WHAT WE GOT TO SEE WAS ALL OF THE ZONING CHANGES AND ALL THE DETAILS, JUST LIKE WE WERE HEARING ONE AS A COUNCIL.
OF COURSE, THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT VALUES DOWN IN MAGNOLIA PARK THAN WE WOULD EVER APPROVED BUT THAT WASN'T.
DO THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO CHANGE THE USE TO HOUSING? WE OBVIOUSLY WORK CLEARLY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVE THAT.
WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION AND I ASKED, THERE'S ONE MEMBER MAYBE MORE THAN ONE, BUT THERE WAS ONE THERE THAT'S A GOVERNOR APPOINTEE.
WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT SUN SETTING AND WHAT AND I ASKED THAT HE GO BACK TO THE STATE FOR US AND ASK HOW LONG DO THEY BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE COMMITTED TO THE PRESERVING BECAUSE CLEARLY IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS OR WHATEVER IT'S BEEN.
I ALREADY HAD A FEELING OF THIS ANYWAY, BUT I USED THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FORMALLY.
WE WILL RECONVENE IN TWO OR THREE MONTHS WITH AN ANSWER BACK.
THEREFORE, SINCE THIS COMMITTEE WAS ALREADY SET TO SUNSET AND THE SENSE WAS THAT THE BELIEF THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUE BY THE STATE, BUT I REALLY WANTED THE STATE TO TELL US THAT.
THEN I EMPHASIZE THAT I'M NO LESS SUPPORTIVE OF BIOSCIENCE AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE, IT'S JUST NICE TO KNOW THAT WE STILL HAVE THESE POSTERS HERE.
IT'S JUST NICE TO KNOW WHAT SOMETHING IS OVERARCHING OBLIGATION VERSUS ONE THAT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SO I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
WE'RE EXPECTING THAT AGAIN, WE'LL MEET IN TWO OR THREE MONTHS AND I'LL SHARE AT THAT TIME.
TOWN MANAGER DID HAVE JOHN SACKLER GO TO THE MEETING.
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HE LISTENED TO THE CONVERSATION AND GRATEFUL HE COULD BE THERE SINCE HE UNDERSTANDS ALL THAT STUFF AND THE DETAIL THAT I DON'T.WITH THAT, SOMEONE SAID THAT TODAY WAS CAM MAZE BIRTHDAY, SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CAM.
>> I HOPE YOU'RE NOT WATCHING [LAUGHTER] WHEREVER YOU ARE.
>> WITH THAT TIME IS NOW 9:26 WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.