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[Call to Order]
IF EVERYBODY WOULD TAKE A SEAT.AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF TUESDAY, MAY 2.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN THE PLEDGE. PLEASE RISE.
>> DEAR, GOD, WE NEED TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, TO USE OUR RESOURCES WISELY, TO REPRESENT ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY FAIRLY, AND TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT PROMOTE THE COMMON GOOD.
AMEN. LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT ONE OF OUR FUN EVENTS ONCE A YEAR.
[1. National Drinking Water Week, May 7-13, 2023 – Ms. Allyson Felsburg, Assistant Facilities Manager.]
I'LL BEGIN WITH A PROCLAMATION.THIS IS A NATIONAL DRINKING WATER WEEK.
WHEREAS WATER IS OUR MOST VALUABLE NATURAL RESOURCE AND WHERE SAFE, RELIABLE AND SUSTAINABLE WATER RESOURCES ARE VITAL TO FLORIDA'S ENVIRONMENT, ECONOMY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
WHEREAS WATER IS ONE OF THE FEW BASIC AND ESSENTIAL NEEDS OF MANKIND IN THE ENVIRONMENT, AND WHEREAS FLORIDIANS CONSUME MORE THAN 15 BILLION GALLONS OF CLEAN DRINKING WATER PER DAY, AND THE FUTURE FLORIDA DEPENDS GREATLY UPON THE AVAILABILITY AND CONDITION OF ITS WATER RESOURCES, AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF JUPITER HAS INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DEVELOP ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLIES, UPGRADE DRINKING WATER FACILITIES, ADDRESS STORM-WATER POLLUTION, AND PRESERVES THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER AND ITS TRIBUTARIES FOR THE BENEFIT OF RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS COMMITTED TO CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN THE PRODUCTION AND DELIVERY OF SAFE AND RELIABLE DRINKING WATER AND PROTECTING LOCAL NATURAL RESOURCES FOR THE SAKE OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND WHEREAS THE RESIDENTS OF OUR TOWN ARE ENCOURAGED TO HELP PROTECT OUR SOURCE WATERS FROM POLLUTION AND PRACTICE WATER CONSERVATION.
AND WHEREAS DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS IN DEVELOPING, OPERATING, AND MAINTAINING TREATMENT AND DELIVERY SYSTEMS. NOW THEREFORE, I JIM KURETSKI, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 7TH TO 13TH AS NATIONAL DRINKING WATER WEEK.
WITH THAT, TODAY, WE ALSO HAVE OUR DROPPED FAVORS AWARDS TONIGHT AND I BELIEVE MS. ALLISON SALSBERG IS GOING TO BE HANDLING THAT PORTION.
TOWN COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ALLISON SALSBERG AND I'M THE TOWN OF JUPITER UTILITIES ASSISTANT FACILITIES MANAGER.
WELCOME TO THE TOWN'S 2023 DROP SAVERS WATER CONSERVATION POSTER CONTEST AWARD CEREMONY.
EACH YEAR THE TOWN OF JUPITER PARTICIPATES WITH THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION, DROP SAVERS WATER CONSERVATION POSTER CONTESTS DURING NATIONAL DRINKING WATER WEEK.
THE CONTEST WHICH BEGAN IN 2010, GIVES STUDENTS FROM KINDERGARTEN THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL THE OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGN A POSTER ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION.
THIS PROGRAM HELPS US INSTILL A HEIGHTENED ENVIRONMENTAL CONSCIOUSNESS AND OUR RESIDENTS AT AN EARLY AGE.
THREE WINNING STUDENTS FROM FIVE DISTINCT GRADE DIVISIONS ARE SELECTED BY TOWN OF JUPITER EMPLOYEE SELECTION COMMITTEE AND AWARDED A PRIZE PACKAGE FOR THEIR EFFORTS.
TO HONOR THE WINNING STUDENTS, THE TOWN ALSO REACHES OUT TO LOCAL BUSINESSES FOR DONATIONS.
THIS YEAR, THE TOWN IS THANKFUL FOR THE PARTICIPATION FROM THESE LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO HAVE DONATED GENEROUSLY TO OUR STUDENTS.
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THAT'S THE AWARDS AND PRIZES.WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO BE CONGRATULATED BY MAYOR KURETSKI AND RECEIVE YOUR PRIZE PACKAGE.
AFTERWARDS, PLEASE STAY UP HERE SO WE MAY THEN TAKE A GROUP PHOTO OF ALL WINNERS.
STARTING OFF WITH DIVISION 1, WHICH IS KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE.
IN THIRD PLACE, WE HAVE MASON KUGLER FROM FIRST GRADE.
[APPLAUSE] SECOND PLACE, EVELYN FOY.
[APPLAUSE] FIRST PLACE MAKANA WARREN.
[APPLAUSE] MOVING ON TO DIVISION 2, SECOND AND THIRD GRADE, THIRD PLACE, CAMERON TANNER [APPLAUSE].
>> THAT'S A FANTASTIC NAME BY THE WAY. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE]
>> SECOND PLACE, WILL DONALDSON.
[APPLAUSE] IN FIRST PLACE, HUNTER PERRIN. [APPLAUSE] MOVING ON TO DIVISION THREE, FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE IN THIRD PLACE.
>> [APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND]. GEORGE. [BACKGROUND]
>> THEN IF YOU WANT TO JUST COME OVER HERE. YOU'RE?
>> OH, HIS MOM. SORRY. [APPLAUSE]. SECOND PLACE, CHLOE MAR.
[APPLAUSE] [NOISE] [BACKGROUND] [APPLAUSE].
>> MOVING ON TO DIVISION FOUR AND OUR FINAL DIVISION, WE HAVE THIRD PLACE, JAYDEN BARNHART, [APPLAUSE].
SECOND PLACE, LYDIA CHAPLAIN [APPLAUSE].
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ENDING WITH FIRST-PLACE, CLARA SMITH [APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND] IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A QUICK GROUP PICTURE WITH THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.>> WE'RE GOING TO MAKE TWO ROWS HERE.
>> YOU WANT TO STEP HERE OR DOWN THERE? [BACKGROUND] DOWN THERE. [BACKGROUND]
THANK YOU [APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND]
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH [APPLAUSE]
>> AS THE NEXT REWARD WE GIVE EVERYBODY A FEW MINUTES IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT'S UP IN THERE.
[BACKGROUND] PERFECT. [BACKGROUND]
>> NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
FIRST TO SAY SOME COMMENTS, THIS IS A TIME FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS, ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.I DON'T HAVE ANY NON-AGENDA ITEM. IS THERE SOME COMMENTS?
>> YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE FIVE [NOISE] WE'RE GOING TO START WITH WAYNE POSNER FOLLOWED BY GLEN DICHICO [BACKGROUND]
>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I'M WAYNE POSNER, WITH 315 COMMUNITY DRIVE.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY I THINK I MAY HAVE LOST TIME ON SOME OF THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT PAYING AS MUCH ATTENTION TO THIS AS I USED TO.
BUT I THINK OUR TOWN MANAGER HAS BEEN HERE FOR OVER A YEAR AND ALL I HEAR IS GREAT THINGS ABOUT HIM.
I'M SO HAPPY AND VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT THIS COUNCIL DECIDED TO HIRE HIM.
IN MY OPINION, HE'S THE BEST TOWN MANAGER WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE I BECAME COUNCILMAN AND NOW AND THROUGH TO THE FUTURE.
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I HOPE HE STAYS FOR AS LONG AS HE WANTS TO STAY AND I THINK HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE TRASH CAME OUT VERY WELL.
IN MY COMMUNITY IS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY DON'T READ THEIR EMAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT EVENTUALLY IT ALL WORKED OUT WELL AND IT LOOKS VERY UNIFORM, VERY CLEAN.
IT'S A GREAT WAY TO PICK UP THE TRASH.
I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AS WELL.
MY CLOCK NEVER STARTED SO I COULD START ALL OVER, RIGHT? IT'S OKAY AND I SEE WE HAVE A DIGITAL CLOCK AND I WILL SPEAK ON THE COLOR OF THE POLICE CARS LATER, BUT I JUST NOTICED FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING IN AN EMAIL OR ANYTHING IN THE NEWS OR ANYTHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE COLOR OF THE POLICE CARS, BUT I'LL SPEAK ABOUT THAT WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. GLEN DICHICO, 3245 DUNCOMBE DRIVE.
THAT PRESENTATION WITH THE KIDS AND EVERYTHING TOOK THE WIND RIGHT OUT OF MY SALES.
BUT I THINK TO MY BENEFIT MAY BE BECAUSE THERE IS A SEGUE.
YES, WATER IS A PRECIOUS NATURAL RESOURCE, BUT SO IS OPEN SPACE IN A HIGH IMPACT URBAN PLAN DEVELOPMENT LIKE ABACOA.
LETTERS WENT OUT IN ABOUT A YEAR AGO, ALMOST A YEAR AGO, IN JUNE, TO REMOVE OBSTRUCTIONS IN OST 29 AND MALLORY CREEK, AND SOMEHOW IT GOT STALLED OUT.
LETTERS WENT OUT AGAIN 60 DAYS AGO, AND WITH A MUST REMOVE SPRAYS IN THERE AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED AND IT'S BEEN 60 DAYS.
IT'S NOW AN ISSUE OF ASSIGNED EASEMENT, THIS FLORIDA STATE LAW THAT SPEAKS TO BUSINESS LAW 19, COMMENT 4.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT WOULD APPLY HERE ON THE DESTRUCTION OF THE EASEMENT.
THERE'S NOTHING IN CODIFIED THAT WOULD SAY THAT THE TARIFF DOESN'T NEED TO ACT.
TOMORROW WILL BE 60 DAYS, SO I'VE BEEN WATCHING.
OPEN SPACE IS A RESOURCE. MY TIME IS UP.
I DO LIKE THE ONE THAT SAYS ABOUT THE WATER OR GO EXTINCT.
I THOUGHT THE ONE WITH BROWN WITH NO BLUE, IT'S PRETTY POIGNANT.
MAY BE A LITTLE BIT HYPERBOLE, BUT MAY BE FACT.
ANYWAY, JUST AS AN ASIDE. THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE RICK CLEGG FOLLOWED BY ANDY WESTON.
>> GOOD EVENING. RICK CLEGG, 103 WEST SANDPIPER CIRCLE, JUPITER.
I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE JUPITER OUTDOOR CENTER.
IN 1997 WE STARTED A SMALL RESTAURANT CALLED GUANABANAS.
WE'RE HELPING PEOPLE DISCOVER LIFE AND DISCOVER JUPITER RIVERBEND PARK NOW.
WE DO HAVE LOVE STREET OUTDOOR CENTER AT THE LUCKY SHUCK WHERE WE OFFER CAPTAIN SIGHTSEEING CRUISES ON OUR PONTOON BOATS.
THE PRIMARY REASON I'M HERE IS TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE FACT THAT THE INLET VILLAGE MARINA IS SITTING THERE COMPLETELY UNDERUTILIZED.
FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS THAT JUPITER OUTDOOR CENTER HAD A NON-EXCLUSIVE AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER TO USE THAT MARINA FOR LAUNCHING KAYAKS AND PADDLE BOARDS.
IT WAS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR YOUTH CAMP.
I SEE THESE KIDS HERE, AND THEIR MESSAGE ABOUT WATER WAS SO POIGNANT BECAUSE WE'VE DISCOVERED IN OUR CAMPS WHEN KIDS LOVE SOMETHING, THEY PROTECT IT AND WANT TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN MANAGER HOPEFULLY, TAKE A LOOK AT THE NONEXCLUSIVE RENTAL OR USE AGREEMENT WE HAD WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND CONSIDER REINSTATING THAT.
IN TIME FOR OUR YOUTH CAMP THAT'S COMING UP IN JUNE, WE'D LOVE TO PUT THE KIDS ON THE JUPITER RIVER OXBOW, TAKE THEM OVER TO FULLERTON ISLAND, LET THEM SEE THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ON THE OTHER ISLAND, AND HELP US EXPLORE THE WATERWAYS OF JUPITER.
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>> GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. ANDY WESTON, 949 DOLPHIN.
I'M WEARING MY SCHOOL SHIRT TODAY BECAUSE THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA HIRED A NEW BASKETBALL COACH AND A NEW FOOTBALL COACH.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH ANOTHER CYCLE, AND THEIR STATEMENT IS WE'RE GOING TO START WINNING.
AS JIM CARREY ONCE SAID, SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE.
ANYWAY, I'M HERE ABOUT DOLPHIN DRIVE.
I TRIED TO FAIR IT OUT WHAT THAT SURVEY WAS TELLING US ABOUT THE ROADWAY, FRANK.
THE BEST I COULD DO IS TAKE THE SCALE, BELOW THAT THING, AND MEASURE WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.
THE PLAIT SAID IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A 50-FOOT RIGHT AWAY, MY BEST GUESS IS 45 FEET.
IT MIGHT BE 46, BUT 45 FEET IS MY GUESS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY, ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S 10 FEET, ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S 18 FEET.
WE CAN MOVE THAT BACK HALF A FOOT EITHER WAY BECAUSE AS IT GOES DOWN A ROAD, THE ROAD CHANGES A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I THINK IT'S A SOLID STATEMENT THAT THE EAST SIDE HAS 10 FOOT REMAINING OF THE RIGHT AWAY, WHEREAS THE WEST SIDE HAS 18 FEET.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXPAND THE ROAD BY FOUR FEET, IT WOULD BE ENTIRELY ON THE WEST SIDE.
WELL, GUESS WHAT? THE GOOD THING IS, THAT'S WHERE THE WATER LINE IS GOING AND THAT'S THE SIDE YOU'RE GOING TO BE TEARING UP.
WE'RE DEALING WITH 11 HOUSES HERE OUT OF 38.
OF THE 11 HOUSES, WHEN I DID MY EFFORT TO GET EVERYBODY, ARE YOU INTERESTED? I GOT HALF OF THOSE GUYS WHO SAID, YES.
THAT DIDN'T MEAN THERE'S ONLY TWO PEOPLE ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD WHO SAID NO.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE ENTIRE LENGTH ALL THE WAY AROUND COMING ON, OTHER THAN THOSE ALONG THE HOUSE, I GOT 100%.
SO THAT'D BE A LANDSLIDE IF WE'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
I SENT YOU WHAT I DISCERN FROM THAT SURVEY AND THEN WHAT THOSE MEASUREMENTS ARE TELLING US, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO SEE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT.
GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN, AND I HOPE I'LL BE BACK.
>> THE LAST ONE WAS BRETT LEONE.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, BRETT LEONE, ABACOA.
HERE TONIGHT TO TOUCH ON A TOPIC THAT I BROUGHT FORTH TO YOU, I THINK BACK IN OCTOBER.
IT'S VERY FITTING BECAUSE MAY IS NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.
JUST COMING BEFORE YOU ALL TO GET AN UPDATE AND TO CONTINUE TO LOBBY THAT THE OLD TOWN HALL THAT SITS AT 100 TOWN HALL AVENUE, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SITE OF THE JUPITER SCHOOL, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL SITE OF THE ORIGINAL TOWN HALL, POLICE STATION, CIVIC CENTER, SO ON AND SO FORTH, GETS LOCALLY DESIGNATED.
IT WAS SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP WHEN I WAS ON THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD AND COMING BEFORE YOU ALL TO PUSH THAT FORWARD AS WELL.
JUST TO TOUCH ON WHAT MR. CLEGG SAID, JUPITER OUTDOOR CENTER IS A FANTASTIC RESOURCE.
I WENT TO THE CAMP WHEN I WAS A KID AND I REMEMBER GROWING UP ON THOSE WATERS, KAYAKING, LEARNING TO SERVE AT THE INLET AND ALL THAT.
THE JUPITER INLET MARINAS, EXTREMELY UNDERUTILIZED, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT'S THERE'S A NICE PLAQUE THAT DESIGNATES THE CELESTIAL RAILROAD IN A COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES.
BE GREAT TO SEE THAT ACTIVATED AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE JUPITER OUTDOOR CENTER GREW FROM WHAT IS NOW THE BAR AT GUANABANAS BEFORE EVERYTHING WAS PLANTED THERE INTO GUANABANAS AND INTO THE OPERATION THAT THEY HAVE NOW AND OUT TO RIVER BEND.
I HOPE YOU ALL LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU.
[2. April 18, 2023 Town Council Meeting Minutes.]
>> MOVING ONTO MINUTES. COUNCIL WE HAD BEFORE US IN MINUTES IN SOME MINOR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES ON THE DICE.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CHANGES, PLEASE MAKE THEM OTHERWISE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANT TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?
>> THREE AND FIVE? IS ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OR THE COUNTY MANAGER WHO WANT TO PULL AN ITEM?
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>> YES. I'D LIKE TO PULL FIVE ALSO AND SEVEN.
>> I AGREE WITH SEVEN. I NEED TO PULL SEVEN.
>> YEAH. I WAS GOING TO PULL THREE AS WELL.
>> WE'VE GOT LEFT ON THE AGENDA ITEMS 4 AND 6.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION ON THE AMENDED CONSENT AGENDA?
>> MOTION SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> THE AMENDED AGENDA PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[3. Jupiter River Estates]
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.>> GOOD EVENING, TOWN COUNCIL, MAYOR.
MY NAME IS DAWN CLARK. I'M THE ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
WE'RE CONDUCTING THIS PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT ON THE JUPITER RIVER ESTATES BY ANNUAL VEGETATIVE TRIMMING MAINTENANCE AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT TO FUND THE RECURRING MAINTENANCE COST OF THE PRIVATELY OWNED CANALS.
THIS REPRESENTS THE LAST FORMAL ACTION OF TOWN COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS STEPS WE'VE TAKEN TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT.
TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED SEVERAL RESOLUTIONS, FOUR, TO BE EXACT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE OF THE UNIFORM METHOD OF COLLECTION FOR THE ASSESSMENT, INCLUDING THREE AGREEMENTS WITH THE PALM BEACH COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER TAX COLLECTOR AND IS DEPARTMENT.
IN ADDITION, TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED A SUBSEQUENT RESOLUTION DECLARING THE ASSESSMENT, WHICH INCLUDED THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL COST OVER THE 10-YEAR ASSESSMENT PERIOD, AND IDENTIFIED THE BENEFITTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
THOSE RESOLUTIONS REQUIRED MULTIPLE LEGAL NOTICES, INCLUDING NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENTS AND MAILED NOTIFICATIONS TO THE BENEFITING PROPERTY OWNERS WITH THE SPECIFICS OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
WITHIN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGES THIS EVENING, YOU HAVE THE ASSESSMENT PLOT AND ASSESSMENT ROLE WHICH IDENTIFY THE 187 BENEFITING PROPERTIES AND THE AMOUNTS TO BE ASSESSED OVER THE 10-YEAR ASSESSMENT TERM.
AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE ALSO INCLUDES LETTERS FROM AND RESPONSES TO RESIDENTS THAT INDICATED THEY WERE EITHER NOT IN FAVOR OF OR HAD QUESTIONS REGARDING THE NON-AD-VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS ARE ON FILE WITH THE TOWN CLERK.
AS A PARTNER DOCUMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU HAVE THE CONTRACT FOR THE INITIAL AND ONGOING TRIMMING MAINTENANCE.
AGAIN, AS THE LAST FORMAL ACTION OF TOWN COUNCIL IN THIS PROCESS, THE NEXT STEP IS TO ADOPT AND CERTIFY THE ASSESSMENT ROLE SO THAT IT MAY BE PLACED ON THE TRIM NOTICES, AND ANNUAL TAX BILLS FOR MAILING BY THE PALM BEACH COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER AND TAX COLLECTOR LATER THIS SUMMER.
AT THIS TIME, STAFF SEEKS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 1323 FOR THE ADOPTION AND CERTIFICATION OF THE ANNUAL NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT FOR THE JUPITER RIVER ESTATES BIENNIAL TRIMMING MAINTENANCE AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
IN ADDITION, STAFF SEEKS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 9622 FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT AWARD FOR THE INITIAL AND ONGOING TRIMMING MAINTENANCE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
>> COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO START WITH STEVE MASSANO, FOLLOWED BY ERIC ALLISON.
>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, AND MAYOR.
I BOUGHT MY HOME AT 1005 SUE STREET IN 1981.
WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE ANYWHERE ELSE.
I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK MY NEIGHBOR'S LAWN JONES STREET FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO TRY TO CLEAN UP JONES STREET.
MY KIDS USED TO SWIM IN THAT CREEK BACK IN THE EARLY '80S.
SO I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT'S BEEN TO SEE THE DETERIORATION OF THE CREEK.
>> I'M SORRY. COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE?
>> I'M SORRY. SURE. THE FIRST POINT I WANT TO BRING UP IS THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH JOSEPH CHASE AND I BELIEVE HIS NAME IS FROM JUPITER INLET DISTRICT AND PUT HOWARD FROM LOXAHATCHEE RIVER DISTRICT.
I GOT ALL KINDS OF DOCUMENTS FROM THEIR PERMITS WHEN THEY HAD THE CREEK DREDGED BACK IN '06 AND THEY ONLY GOT A PERMIT FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR THE NATURAL PART OF THE CREEK.
WELL, THE NATURAL PART OF THE CREEK EXTENDS FROM,
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OF COURSE, THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER UP TO, ACCORDING TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THESE TWO DISTRICTS TO A PROPERTY OWNER JUST TO THE SOUTH OF ME, WHICH MEANS THERE'S THREE PROPERTIES IN JUPITER RIVER STATES THAT ARE ON THE NATURAL PART OF THE CREEK ACCORDING TO THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER DISTRICT AND JUPITER RIVER DISTRICT.SO MY CONCERN IS THAT IF THOSE THREE PROPERTIES AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE HERE, ALSO, IF THEY ARE ON A NATURAL PART OF THE CREEK, THEY SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE MAN-MADE PART OF THE CREEK, WHICH JUPITER HAS SAID IS NOW OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
MY SURVEY THAT WAS DONE IN 1981 AND A SECOND SURVEY THAT WAS DONE IN 1983 WHEN I REFINANCED STATES I OWN TO THE HIGH TIDE LINE, I DO NOT OWN TO THE MIDDLE OF THE CREEK, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S THE NATURAL PART OF THE CREEK.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT OUR PROPERTY SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE MAN-MADE PART OF THE CREEK.
MY SECOND OBJECTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE MAN-MADE PART OF THE CREEK, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOATS AND KEEP THEIR PROPERTIES TRIMMED.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE BOATS AND DON'T KEEP THEIR MANGROVES TRIMMED.
THEY JUST THINK THAT THE CREEK IS A DRAINAGE DITCH.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T TRIM THEIR MANGROVES BECAUSE OF AGE OR FINANCES.
TO PUT THE BURDEN ON EVERYONE, TO GO BY THE LENGTH OF SHORELINE THEY HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL TAX THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IS NOT FAIR. DOES THAT MEAN I'M DONE?
>> THE FAIR WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE, IF CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES TO MY HOUSE AND SAYS MY FRONT LAWN IS TOO HIGH, I GET CITED.
THE SAME SHOULD APPLY TO YOUR BACKYARD IF IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
IF YOUR MANGROVES NEED TO BE TRIMMED, IT SHOULD BE THAT PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TRIM THEIR OWN PROPERTY [OVERLAPPING] INCLUDED UPON THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU.
>> IT WAS ERIC ALLISON FOLLOWED BY KAREN BENSON.
I'M ERIC ALLISON 220 COLONY WAY WEST JUPITER.
I'VE LIVED IN JUPITER FOR 53 YEARS.
LIVED ON JONES CREEK FOR 18 YEARS.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING THE TOWN'S DOING IS BY MAKING THIS INITIAL TRIM, AND IF THERE'S ANY NAYSAYERS, YOUR HOME VALUES ARE GOING TO INCREASE DRASTICALLY.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE FROM LIVING ON A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT STINKS TO HAVING TRUE WATERFRONT PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT I'D BE WILLING TO BET IN A YEAR, YOUR PROPERTY VALUES IS GOING TO BE UP $100,000 A YEAR.
THE OTHER THING I HAD TO BRING UP IS I DON'T KNOW IF THE TOWN HAS LOOKED INTO THIS OR WHATEVER AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
I'LL PAY ANYTHING TO GET IT DONE.
BUT AS THE TOWN LOOKED AT MAYBE DOING THE MAINTENANCE EVERY OTHER YEAR, WHICH WOULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS I CONSIDER MYSELF FROM BEING A FLORIDA RESIDENT FOR MY WHOLE LIFE.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT MANGOES AREN'T GOING TO GROW BACK THAT MUCH IN A YEAR.
IN TWO YEARS YOU'D COME BACK AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BRANCHES AND IN LESS THAN AN INCH THICK AND THEY JUST COME THROUGH AND DO A HAIRCUT JUST ENOUGH THAT YOU COULD LOOK INTO, MAYBE CUT SOME OF THE COSTS.
THEN THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THAT CANAL JONES CREEK, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS THE LAST MEETING AS I KNEW COLIN WHITE.
HE DIED AT 106 YEARS OLD AND HE TOLD ME THAT THAT CANAL USED TO HAVE A SAND BOTTOM WHEN HE WAS A KID, AND THERE'S LIKE WHEN I MOVED THERE, THERE WAS MILLIONS OF LITTLE MINNOWS IN THERE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT NOT ONLY BENEFITS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE CREEK, IT BENEFITS THE WHOLE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THE FISH THAT ARE GROWN IN THAT LITTLE ESTUARY MOVE TO THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER.
THEN THEY MOVE TO THE REEF OFFSHORE,
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WHICH WE ALL KNOW THAT ALL THE TOURISTS COME HERE TO GO FISHING.THEN THE LAST THING I'LL JUST SAY IS THAT AND NOT TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON.
BUT I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THING AND I'M ALL FOR TRIMMING THAT CANAL, BUT MANGROVES, AND AGAIN, I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.
THE LEAVES THAT DROP OFF THOSE TREES AND THE SEEDS THAT DROP-OFF THOSE TREES, THEY SINK RIGHT TO THE BOTTOM.
EVEN THOUGH YOU DO THIS TRIMMING, NOTHING IS GOING TO CLEAN UP THAT WHOLE CREEK UNTIL THEY DREDGE ALSO.
I WISH THE TOWN WOULD MAYBE GET WHAT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHATEVER THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON JONES CREEK, I KNOW A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT MARK POWELL IS LIKE A MARINE ENGINEER.
IT COULD MAYBE FIND THE WAYS TO GET THE MONEY TO HAVE THE CANAL DREDGED TOO.
BECAUSE ONCE YOU DO THAT AND I THINK THE PLAN FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS TO TRIM THE MANGROVES OF 30 FEET WIDE AND ALSO OF 30 FEET HIGH.
THAT WAY THOSE LEAVES FALLING DOWN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
>> I NEED TO ASK EVERYBODY WHEN YOU HEAR THE BEEP THEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
>> I WAS TOO BUSY TALKING TO HEAR IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> HI. MY NAME'S KAREN BENSON.
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK KEITH AND STEVE AND MICHELLE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE IN HELPING TO TRY AND CLEAN UP JONES CREEK.
I'M NOT AGAINST CLEANING UP JONES CREEK.
I'M AGAINST 600 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS A YEAR THAT'S GOING TO BE RAISED 5% EVERY YEAR ON MY TAXES BEING RAISED TO THAT MUCH BY A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT IS BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR WATERWAY THAT IN ESSENCE CONTRIBUTES TO THE WHOLE TOWN OF JUPITER AND MANAGE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT DURING EACH AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WATER RUNOFF.
YOU HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE BUILT, THEY ALL DRAIN INTO THERE.
HAS THERE EVER BEEN A STUDY TO SHOW WHAT THE CAPACITY IS ON THAT CREEK AND THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF AND THE MOUNT OF ROAD RUN-OFF, ASPHALT AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S DUMPED INTO THAT CREEK ON A DAILY BASIS WITH EVERY STORM THAT WE HAVE, EVERY RAINFALL WE HAVE, AND EVERY GOLF COURSE THAT WHEN THEY GET OVERLOADED, THEY DUMP IT IN THERE? THAT'S ONE THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY.
THE OTHER THING IS I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE OTHER THAN I'M NOT WILLING TO PAY EVERYTHING BECAUSE I HAVE TO STILL SUPPORT THE REST OF MY HOUSEHOLD.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRIM IT, TRIMMING IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP UNLESS YOU GO TO DREDGE IT.
THE LAST TIME THEY TRIMMED, THEY TRIMMED ABOUT THIS MUCH.
THE TRIMMING WAS ASTRONOMICAL, BUT YET THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ACTUALLY TRIMMED WAS MINISCULE.
IT DID NO GOOD, HAD NO GOOD EFFECT TO IT WHATSOEVER.
I THINK THE $600 A YEAR IS A HARDSHIP ON SINGLE-FAMILY HARDSHIP ON TWO PEOPLE WHO WORK ARE TRYING TO RAISE A FAMILY AND LIVE IN THIS AREA ON A CREEK AND A WATERWAY THAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE TOWN OF JUPITER AND I FEEL LIKE THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE INPUT FROM THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
I'M NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THE FACT OF WHAT JUPITER HAS DONE FOR US AND AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT JUPITER IS TRYING TO FRONT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS DONE.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.
IT'S A HARDSHIP THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU VOTE FOR TO HOW A NON AD VALOREM TAX PUT ON, NORMALLY IT'S THROUGH THE WHOLE TOWN AND IT'S PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ONE SUBDIVISION TO PAY CERTAIN PEOPLE PICKED OUT ON A SPECIFIC CREEK.
MY PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS WHAT STEVE WAS REFERRING TO IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED ON A NATURAL PART OF THE CREEK.
WHEN THAT CAME UP A LONG TIME AGO IS WHEN I QUIT GOING TO THE MEETINGS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO PAY SOMETHING.
THE ORIGINAL COST WAS $400, SUPPOSE IT AND I UNDERSTAND NOBODY KNEW AT THAT TIME, 600 IS A LOT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE INCREASED BY 5% EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
THAT'S ON TOP OF MY TAXES THAT ARE GOING TO GO UP ALSO.
IT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. [APPLAUSE]
>> NEXT WE HAVE NICKS GAFFITI, FOLLOWED BY MARK WATSON.
>> GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL, NICKS GAFFITI, 691 POINT E STREET, 40 YEAR RESIDENT THAN 35 YEARS ON THE CREEK.
WE'VE SEEN SOME DREDGING ATTEMPTS AND OTHER ATTEMPTS TO CLEAN THE CREEK UP AND NONE OF THEM HAVE WORKED.
THE COMPANIES WENT BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY UNDERBID AND IT COST THE TOWN AND EVERYBODY MONEY.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT IN TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS THAT WE EVALUATE AND SEE IF THIS IS WORKING, UNFORTUNATELY, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, WE'RE STILL STUCK PAYING.
ALL I ASK IS THAT SOMEHOW WHOEVER GETS THIS CONTRACT AND WHO'S MADE ALL THESE STUDIES HAS SOME ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THIS WILL WORK.
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>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARK WATSON.
MR. MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL PEOPLE.
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL TOWN. YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AND I'M PROUD OF YOU.
YOU HAVE BIGGER GARBAGE CANS? [LAUGHTER] IF I COULD USE A FEW MINUTES OF HIS TIME.
I MOVED HERE 42 YEARS AGO ONTO JONES CREEK.
WE'VE OWNED A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES HERE.
WE USED TO OWN MY ROWS HOBBES.
LOT OF YOU ADULTS HERE WITH YOUR KIDS, YOUR CHILDREN WOULD COME IN WITH THEIR KIDS.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING IS I WAS GOING TO BID THIS JOB.
I'M A STATE CERTIFIED GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
I WAS GOING TO BID TAKING CARE OF THE TRIMMING OF ALL OF THIS.
IN MY ESTIMATION, THE BULK OF THE COST OF THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE IN REMOVING EVERYTHING INITIALLY.
THE MAINTENANCE YEAR AFTER YEAR IS NOT GOING TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT THE COST OF THE INITIAL CLEANING IS GOING TO BE.
THERE'S NO REASON TO CHARGE US AND FORTUNATELY, I OWN A COUPLE OF HOUSES.
I HAVE 165 FEET ON ONE AND 140 FEET ON ANOTHER, AND I'M LOOKING AT $20,000 IN FEES OVER 10 YEARS.
I'M RETIRED NOW. BUT I'M STILL TRYING TO WORK.
BUT MY POINT IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS CHARGE US TO CLEAN THE PLACE.
ONCE IT'S CLEAN, MAINTAINING THIS EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS IS GOING TO BE A QUARTER OF WHAT IT COST TO DO IT INITIALLY.
YOU SHOULDN'T TAKE THE FULL AMOUNT, SPREAD IT OVER 10 YEARS AND CHARGE US FOR THIS.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO US THAT ARE RETIRED.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL, GRANTED IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
BUT I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EXTREME.
THE GENTLEMAN HAD ACTUALLY GOT THE CONTRACT, TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT, AND I TOLD HER I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ALL THE NEIGHBORS MAD AT ME.
THAT'S WHY I DECIDED NOT TO DO IT.
BUT THE POINT IS, THE INITIAL COST IS GOING TO BE THE BULK OF THIS PROJECT, NOT THE MAINTENANCE.
SEE IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT I'M WILLING TO PAY TO HAVE THIS THING FIXED.
I LOVE THE PLACE. I'M NEVER GOING TO LEAVE.
BUT WE NEED TO REDUCE OR CUTBACK ON WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON CHARGING US FOR THE REMAINING NINE YEARS.
I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> NEXT WE HAVE STEVEN BATSON, FOLLOWED BY HEATHER OR HEATH WINDS.
>> TOWN COUNCIL, STEVE DADS, I LIVE IN 1110 C STREET.
I'VE COME BEFORE YOU NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE PAST ABOUT THE CREEK.
>> YES, MA'AM. I THINK ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE IN AGREEMENT.
THE CREEK NEEDS TO BE CLEANED.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SIX YEARS, BEEN AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
THE TOWN COUNCIL, COUNTY, THEY'VE ALL USED THEIR UNIFORM.
THIS IS HOW WE NORMALLY DO IT.
WHAT I LIKE TO PAY LESS, ABSOLUTELY I WOULD.
I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY DOESN'T NEED IT.
MY MANGROVES ARE COMPLETELY TRIM, TO BE HONEST.
I THINK IT'S RATHER APROPOS THAT THE CHILDREN [NOISE] WERE TALKING ABOUT CLEAN WATER IN THE FUTURE AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. IT'S THE FUTURE.
SHIRT NEEDS TO BE DREDGED, EVENTUALLY IT WILL.
BUT IT'S ALL GOT TO START SOMEWHERE, AND THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS.
LIKE I SAID, DO I WANT TO PAY THAT MUCH? NO. BUT I'M WILLING TO.
WE ALL KNOW THAT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR TOWN STAFF FOR DOING ALL THEIR WORK AND WHATNOT LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.
>> HEATHER'S MY SISTER, ACTUALLY.
HEATH LIVES 1114 SUE STREET. THANKS, COUNCIL.
THANK TOWN JUPITER UTILITIES, TOWN STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
I REALLY THANK MY NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE COME OUT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR OCCASIONS TO HALL TRASH OUT OF OUR CREEK.
WE'D BEEN KNEE DEEP, HIP DEEP IN THIS WATER TOGETHER, PULLING OLD MATTRESSES AND BICYCLES AND ALL CRAP OUT OF THIS CREEK.
IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THAT PEOPLE WOULD JUST DISCARD INTO JONES CREEK.
BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE HEALTH OF THE WATER BY TAKING TRASH OUT OF IT.
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THE PROBLEM WITH THE CREEK IS THE BACTERIA LEVELS AND THE BACTERIA LEVELS ARE ELEVATED.IT'S NATURALLY OCCURRING BACTERIA.
WELL, THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET TO SOLVING THIS PROBLEM, A LOT OF THIS BACTERIA IS BENTHIC BACTERIA THAT LIVES DOWN IN THE MUCK AND WE'VE GOT FIVE BEAT A MUCKING THIS CREEK.
THE SIMPLEST THING TO DO IS TO TRIM THE CREEK, TO OPEN UP THE CANOPY TO ALLOW MORE SUNLIGHT AND ALLOW UV LIGHT TO DISINFECT THE BACTERIA THAT ARE ON THE SURFACE THERE.
THERE IS NO QUICK, EASY SOLUTION HERE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER HERE IS A REASONABLE FIRST STEP TO DEMONSTRATE OUR COMMUNITIES WILLINGNESS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF OUR CREEK AND WORK TOWARDS A SOLUTION.
WE'RE THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE WATERFRONT ACCESS, AND SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF US BEARING SOME OF THIS COST.
WHAT I LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE WE CAN WORK THERE SOME POINT.
MAYBE IF WE FIND THE RIGHT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT I THINK THAT ESTABLISHING A COMMUNITY MAINTENANCE SPECIAL BENEFIT AREA MIGHT HELP POSITION US FOR SUCH A GRANT OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS, AND I APPRECIATE TOWN COUNCIL AND TOWN UTILITIES FOR HELPING US [NOISE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THE LAST ONE IS ED MAHONEY.
THE POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TONIGHT IS THAT I THINK IT'S VERY UNFAIR TO HAVE THIS PROPOSAL TAKE THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE CANALS AND CHARGE IT TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE CANAL.
THE REASON THAT I FEEL THAT WAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS USED IN THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT MY CANAL IS NOT PRIVATELY OWNED.
I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WERE COMMON AREA MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT I HAD TO OBEY AND THAT INCLUDED HAVING FOREIGN PLANTS TAKEN OUT OF IT.
NOW, I WAS TOLD THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS THEY HAVEN'T, AND I HAVE PAY PEOPLE COME IN AND CLEAN IT UP.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WAS TOLD ME THAT WAS THE BENEFIT OF THAT CANAL WAS FLOODWATER CONTROL.
THE FLOODWATER CONTROL DOESN'T JUST PROTECT MY HOME, IT PROTECTS HOMES ALL OVER THE AREA.
I THINK MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW THERE ARE GATES ON TONY PEN DRIVE AND THOSE GATES CAN BE OPENED UP BY THE ALEXA HETCHY CLUB AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF FLOODWATER CAN BE DUMPED OUT OF THE FLUX HETCHY CLUB INTO THAT CANAL TO PROTECT THEIR MILLION-DOLLAR HOMES.
I THINK IT'S VERY UNFAIR TO ASK ME AND MY NEIGHBORS TO HAVE TO PAY TO MAKE SURE THAT CANAL CAN HANDLE THAT FLOOD WATER.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS A GREAT IDEA.
WE HAVE TO KEEP THE CANALS CLEANED AND WORKABLE.
BUT I THINK EVERYBODY WHO IS PROTECTED BY THEM SHOULD PAY THE COST.
>> THANKS FOR COMING. JUST FOR SOME QUESTIONS AND I'LL START JUST TO CLARIFY THINGS THAT WERE TOUCHED ON.
WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US ON THE SECOND ITEM, THE RESOLUTION, IS A CONTRACT AWARD TO DO THE FIRST TIME MAINTENANCE TO TRIM BACK, OPEN THAT AREA UP, AND THAT IS BEING TOTALLY PAID FOR BY THE TOWN, CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. WITH THE STORMWATER UTILITY.
>> THEN THE CONTRACT, IN ORDER TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC WHAT THE COST COULD BE TO MAINTAIN IT WE GOT BUY-IN AND RENEWALS INTO THE CONTRACT FOR 10 YEARS, CORRECT?
>> NOW, ARE JUST THAT RENEWAL, WE HAVE TO RENEW EACH ONE OF THEM?
>> NO, THE CONTRACT INCLUDES THOSE BI-ANNUAL RENEWABLES FOR THE ANNUAL [OVERLAPPING] SORRY.
>> HI, TOWN COUNCIL. AMANDA BARNES, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES.
THE CONTRACT IS SET UP WITH BIENNIAL,
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WHICH MEANS EVERY TWO-YEAR RENEWALS.AT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN AND THE CONTRACT, IF WE AGREE ON WE'RE DOING WE CAN, IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO RENEW.
THE INITIAL CONTRACT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL IS THE INITIAL TRIMMING AND THEN A CHANGE ORDER FOR BIENNIAL, THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW BIENNIALLY AND WE HAVE THAT PRICE ALREADY OBTAINED THROUGH COMPETITIVE BIDDING.
>> THAT OPPORTUNITY IS CONTRACTED ALREADY OR IS IT HAS TO BE RENEWED? I WANT TO KNOW.
>> NO. IT'LL BE IN THE CONTRACT BY CHANGE ORDER.
WE CAN RENEW BY CHANGE ORDER WHERE WE WOULDN'T BE GOING OUT TO BID.
>> UNDERSTAND. FIRST OF ALL, YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT THE PUBLIC COULD ASK.
WE WENT TO EVERY OTHER YEAR IN ORDER TO SAVE MONEY, CORRECT?
>> TO THE DEGREE THAT WAS A SUGGESTION THAT WE INITIALLY HAD EVERY YEAR, BUT WE WANT EVERY OTHER YEAR TO REDUCE COSTS.
>> AGAIN, YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
IF WE EXERCISE THE CHANGE ORDER FOR THE BIENNIAL, THEN IT'S COMMITTED FOR 10 YEARS?
>> NO. WE WOULD DO THAT FOR EACH RENEWAL, SO WE'D EXECUTE A CHANGE ORDER FOR EACH TWO-YEAR PERIOD.
>> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CONFIRM BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED, SEE IF IT WORKS, HOW IT WORKS, SO WHAT'S BEFORE US, AGAIN, THIS IS A QUESTION I WANT YOU TO CONFIRM, IS THE CONTRACT FOR THE METHYL REMOVAL AND THEN IS A CHANGE ORDER FOR THE FIRST OF POTENTIALLY FIVE BIANNUAL, CORRECT?
>> THAT GIVES THE TOWN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKING BEFORE WE WOULD RENEW BEYOND THAT?
>> JUST HAD A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO WHAT YOU WERE ASKING.
IF WE DECIDE AFTER THE FIRST TRIMMING THAT IT'S NOT WORKING, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ASSESSMENTS?
>> IF WE DON'T RENEW WHEN WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH TO COLLECTION PERIODS, THEN THAT FUNDING WOULD HAVE TO BE REFUNDED TO THE RESIDENTS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, THE ASSESSMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASSESSED EVERY YEAR EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY TRIMMING EVERY TWO, CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. IT'S PRORATED OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD ANNUALLY, BUT THE COST THAT THEY'RE BEING CHARGED FOR IS A TRIMMING EVERY TWO YEARS.
>> FROM THE INITIAL ESTIMATES THAT WE HAD GOTTEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY CUT IN HALF?
>> NOT CUT IN HALF, BUT THEY WERE REDUCED.
>> THEY WERE REDUCED BY, I HAVE THAT NUMBER.
THE SAVINGS OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD IS $537,492.67 BY TRIMMING EVERY TWO YEARS INSTEAD OF EVERY YEAR.
>> COULD WE POTENTIALLY TAKE ACTION TONIGHT JUST TO DO THE INITIAL TRIM AND THEN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT NEXT YEAR WITHOUT HAVING TO AGREE TO THE ASSESSMENT?
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I THINK YOU CAN.
>> YOU'RE TAKING ACTION ON A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE ASSESSMENT AND TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH THE TAX COLLECTOR, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, AND PALM BEACH COUNTY IT DEPARTMENT TO SET UP A PROGRAM THAT WILL ASSESS PROPERTY OWNERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR THE PROGRAM.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM, YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TO NOTIFY THOSE AGENCIES SO THAT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DOESN'T APPEAR ON THEIR TAX ROLL.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF JUST STOPPING THE PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO STOP, THINK OF A MENTAL ACTION THAT IS TAKEN TO RAISE THE FUNDS OR TO PRODUCE THE FUNDS FOR THE PROGRAM.
>> THE INITIAL TRIMMING, THAT'S THE 533,000 THAT'S BEING PAID FOR BY THE TOWN.
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IF WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE COST AND THE ASSESSMENTS FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE, DO WE NEED TO ENTER INTO THE ORIGINAL ITEM A, WHICH WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT? CAN WE JUST APPROVE THE TRIMMING AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE ASSESSMENT? THE INITIAL TRIMMING GOES FORWARD, WHY WE REEVALUATE THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND THE COSTS TO THE RESIDENTS. CAN WE DO THAT?>> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE'RE ON COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IF WE TRIM AND THEN STOP DOING ANYTHING WE BACK TO WHERE YOU HAD BEEN BEFORE.
>> I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE WOULD STOP, [OVERLAPPING] I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT THERE'S ISSUES.
>> I APPRECIATE STAFF HAVING TRIED TO BE AS COST-EFFECTIVE AS THEY COULD.
GOING BACK AND ASKING, COULD WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT? GO AHEAD AND ASKING, WHAT'S THE COST IF IT'S EVERY OTHER YEAR, THE CONTRACT IS FLEXIBLE SO THAT WE CAN SEE HOW IT'S WORKING.
I DO THINK THAT IT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL THAT WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE SPEND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO DO THE INITIAL TIME, THAT THERE'S AT LEAST A MECHANISM TO MAINTAIN IT, SO I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO BE COLLECTING FOR THAT FIRST TRIMMING AND THEN WE SEE HOW THAT GOES.
IF WE WERE TO CONCLUDE THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEN WE WOULD DO IT.
BUT I THINK TO ME, THEY GO HAND IN HAND SETTING UP THE PROCESS TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE'RE INVESTING IN.
OTHERWISE, WE'VE HEARD STORIES, THIS WAS DONE BEFORE AND IT FELL BY THE WAYSIDE.
>> BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO THE RESIDENTS CENTER IF IT WAS JUST THE FIRST TRIMMING? IT WOULDN'T BE THE FULL 600?
>> NO. EFFECTIVELY, EVERY TWO YEARS YOU'RE COLLECTING FOR ONE TRIMMING.
>> THE TWO YEARS OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS COVERS THE TRIMMING.
IF WE WERE TO DECIDE AFTER THE FIRST TRIMMING THAT WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE WOULD ADDRESS IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
>> I THINK RIGHT NOW GIVEN THE COMMENTS BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY WITH THE ACTIONS AND THE LEGWORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO ESSENTIALLY CANCEL THE ASSESSMENT SO THAT WE DON'T TIE STAFF UP WITH ALL THAT STUFF, I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT OBVIOUSLY TO THE MONEY IS EARMARKED TO DO THE INITIAL TRIM, AND THEN WE HAVE A YEAR TO LOOK AT IT.
IN THAT TIME-FRAME, I THINK WE CAN PURSUE STATE FUNDING BECAUSE BACK IN 2020, WE HAD STATE FUNDING ALLOCATED, BUT IT WAS LINE-ITEM VETO BY THE GOVERNOR, I BELIEVE, AND COVID UNCERTAINTY WITH THE BUDGET AND STUFF SO I THINK THEY WERE GOING TO SEND MONEY DOWN HERE TO DO THIS, BUT I GOT MINE ON VETOED.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO PURSUE STATE FUNDING FOR THIS ANNUAL TRIMMING GIVEN THE AMOUNTS THAT I'M SEEING HERE, $89,000.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE TOO HARD TO PURSUE GRANT FUNDING FOR THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE.
>> I AGREE, [APPLAUSE] I WOULD MUCH RATHER DO THAT AND JUST DO THE TRIMMING AND TAKE THE NEXT YEAR AND SEE IF WE CAN GET STATE FUNDING FOR IT.
IF WE CAN'T GET IT, THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO LOOK AT SOME ASSESSMENT, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH TO TRY BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A HARDSHIP FOR PEOPLE.
WE SHOULD TAKE THE TIME TO SEE IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT FOR THEM FIRST.
>> PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S NAIVE TO THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET GRANT FUNDING.
WE'VE TRIED, IT WAS A TIME WHEN THIS IN THE PAST HAD BEEN DONE BY DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
>> WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOBBYIST THEN.
BUT IN SETTING THIS UP, THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP US FROM TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COME AND TO REDUCE THE COST.
BUT IN ORDER TO GO FORTH AND INVEST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN TOWN FUNDING TO DO IT THE FIRST TIME, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE ASSURANCE THAT IT'S GOT TO BE MAINTAINED.
>> WE DO. WE'VE BEEN CHEWING ON THIS FOR OVER SIX YEARS AND THE PRIOR COUNCIL, WHO WAS A HEAVY LIFT TO DECIDE TO HAVE THE OTHER JUPITER TAXPAYERS KICK IN OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO AGAIN, MAINTAIN OWNERS PROPERTY THAT THEY'LL BENEFIT WITH CLEAN WATER AND ALL THAT, BUT IT'S YOUR PROPERTY.
I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE, I WAS IN MR. DOBSIN'S BOAT.
IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT WE CAN'T STICK OUR NECK OUT AGAIN AND DO THIS INITIAL TRIMMING AND CLEAN-UP AND NOT HAVE ASSURANCES THAT IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED.
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THIS IS A VERY HEAVY LIFT FOR ALL INVOLVED STAFF AND YOUR NEIGHBORS AND GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND CALLING TOGETHER YOUR GROUP TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.WHAT WE HAVE, WE CAN CHANGE COURSE DOWN THE ROAD IF WE THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE COURSE.
BUT THERE HAS BEEN TOO MUCH WORK INTO THIS SO FAR TO CHANGE ANYTHING TONIGHT AND WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD SEE WHERE WE ARE.
BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE DOWN THERE.
WE CLEANED IT UP 20 YEARS AGO BEFORE I WAS HERE AND IT JUST GREW IN AGAIN, AND IT'S A MESS.
THOSE CANALS THEY'RE FULL OF BACTERIA THEY'RE A DISASTER.
YOU GOT TO OPEN IT UP, GET THE SUNLIGHT IN THERE.
THIS HAS EMBEDDED RESEARCHED CHEWED ON SPIT OUT.
THIS NEEDS TO BE PASSED TONIGHT.
WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO CHANGE ANYTHING TONIGHT IN MY OPINION.
I DON'T HAVE THE MOTIVATION TO TWEAK THIS OR CHANGE IT.
WE HAVE THE TWO-YEAR OUTS AND I THINK THAT'S WITH A TWO-YEAR RENEWALS.
IT'S BASICALLY $600 A YEAR WITH A 5% INCREASE OVER TIME OR SKEWED IN FOR INFLATION.
IS THAT NUMBER LOCKED IN EVERY TIME WE RENEW, OR DO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE THE PRICE?
>> THE CONTRACT HAS BUILT-IN FOR ANNUAL INCREASES BASED ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, CPIU, NOT TO EXCEED 5% ANNUALLY.
>> IF WE KEEP RENEWING, WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT' THE ACCELERATION OF COST IS GOING TO BE, CORRECT? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PAY IT, BUT EVERYBODY BENEFITS FOR THIS GETTING DONE.
THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH WORKING IN AND I JUST THINK THIS SURPRISES LAST MINUTE WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
>> I THINK RESIDENTS RAISED A LOT OF VALID POINTS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, WHICH IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH A LITTLE MORE CAUTION.
THE INITIAL TRIMMING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE THAT FUNDED AND I THINK EVERYONE AGREES THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BUT IT'S THE ASSESSMENTS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET STATE FUNDING OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT.
IF THERE ISN'T A WAY TO DO IT AND WE KNOW WE NEED TO TRIM, THEN WE STILL HAVE TIME AFTER A YEAR TO PUT EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO DO THE ASSESSMENT.
I DON'T SEE HOW THAT SETS US BACK AT ALL FROM BEING ON A COURSE OF HAVING THE TRIMMING EVERY TWO YEARS.
I'M JUST SAYING I'D LIKE TO INVESTIGATE THINGS BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND SET UP A SYSTEM TO TAX PEOPLE.
>> ONE CONCERN WITH THE STATE FUNDING BECAUSE I DID ASK ABOUT THAT.
ONE CONCERN WAS THAT IT WAS A RECURRING MAINTENANCE COST AND THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT THE STATE LIKES TO FUND ARE THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS ONE-TIME COSTS.
THAT IS WHEN I HEARD A COMMENT SAID THAT IT PUTS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN A POSITION TO RECEIVE GRANT FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.
I WOULD TEND TO BELIEVE BASED ON WHAT I KNOW THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE CASE.
I THINK WE SHOULD PURSUE STATE FUNDING.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MAY WANT TO DO DREDGING DOWN THE LINE.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON LONG BEFORE OUR TIME, FIVE, SIX YEARS.
IT IS A LENGTHY PROCESS AND THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING, NEW EYES, FRESH EYES ON THIS IS THAT THE RESIDENTS CAME TO THE TOWN SEEKING HELP.
I WAS SO IMPRESSED AND I HAD SAID SO IN THE PAST, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS WORKED SO HARD TO ORGANIZE AROUND AN ISSUE FOR MANY YEARS NOW.
THE SUSTAINED EFFORT OF A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, AGAIN, THERE ARE 187 HOMES INVOLVED.
I SEE SIGNS OF THAT ORGANIZATION IN MANY WAYS ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER THINGS.
I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT REQUEST.
IT'S A RARE THING TO SEE A NEIGHBORHOOD DO THAT.
I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE COST AS WELL.
WE ALL DID THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH EVERY OTHER YEAR, WHICH I FULLY SUPPORTED AND I'M EVEN MORE ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT THERE IS THAT OUT EVERY TWO YEARS.
I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T WORK.
BUT IF IT DOES, THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR EVERYONE.
>> I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING AN UNKNOWN TAX BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO OPT INTO AN ASSESSMENT AND GO, MAYBE WE CAN OPT OUT NEXT YEAR IF WE DON'T I DON'T LIKE THAT UNKNOWN.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TRIMMING AND REVISIT THIS NEXT YEAR.
IF WE CANNOT GET STATE FUNDING, WE WILL KNOW BY JANUARY.
IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET AN APPROPRIATION FOR THIS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE AND THEN WE CAN REASSESS IF WE NEED TO DO AN ASSESSMENT AND THE DOCUMENTS ARE THERE,
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THE LEG WORK HAS BEEN DONE THANKS TO YOU GUYS WORKING SO HARD.I JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT AN UNKNOWN TAX BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW AND I THINK I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE INITIAL TRIM DONE, SEE HOW IT LOOKS, SEE WHERE IT'S AT, AND THEN WORK ON ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR IT TO GOING FORWARD.
IF WE'RE MAKING A HALF-MILLION-DOLLAR INVESTMENT, I HIGHLY DOUBT ANYONE'S GOING TO LET THAT JUST GO TO WASTE.
I WOULD BE ENCOURAGED THAT WE WILL CONTINUALLY WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THIS TRIMMED EVERY TWO YEARS AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT IT NEXT YEAR AND MAYBE PURSUE THE ASSESSMENTS, THEN.
[APPLAUSE] I'M NOT WILLING TO PUT UP OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF OTHER JUPITER RESIDENTS' TAX MONEY WITHOUT THE AGREEMENT OR OBLIGATION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BENEFITING THE MOST OF THIS PROJECT.
I HATE TO USE THE TERM SKIN IN THE GAME.
WE CAN CHANGE COURSE AFTER TWO YEARS.
I THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY REASONABLE SITUATION TO DO, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH PASSING THIS TONIGHT AND AFTER TWO YEARS, WE CAN CHANGE COURSE IF IT'S GOING GREAT, WE KEEP GOING WITH IT.
BUT WE HAVE BUILT-IN FLEXIBILITY WITH THIS SITUATION, CORRECT?
>> I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THAT.
TO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OVER $544,000 AND IT'S GOING TO GROW ONE AGAIN.
MR. WINSTON, MR. DOPSEN, YOU FOLKS SHOULD APPRECIATE THESE TWO MEN AND THEIR ASSOCIATES FOR GETTING THIS DONE BECAUSE THIS WAS A LOT OF WORK.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THIS IN THIS TOWN.
THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL, SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN STAFF.
I THINK EVERYBODY HAS TO PUT IN HERE AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
>> JUST A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FROM STAFF.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE NON-NATIVE LOREM ASSESSMENT PROCESS SINCE I'VE BEEN SUBJECTED TO IT FOR THE 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN THIS TOWN AND IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR BY ACTION.
WE'RE NOT SITTING IN THE STONE THE ACTUAL NUMBER WE'VE PROVIDED FOR THE RESIDENTS, SOME CERTAINTY IN WHAT IT COULD BE BY GETTING THEIR CONTRACT PRICE.
EVERY YEAR IN BUDGET TIME, WE SAID IT CORRECT.
>> WERE WE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING GRANTS OR WHATEVER WE CAN ADJUST IT, CORRECT?
>> THE MECHANISM THERE TO BE AS FAIR AS WE CAN TO THE RESIDENTS THAT BUILT INTO THE PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON RESOLUTION 1323.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 1323.
THAT'S THE RESOLUTION TO PROVIDE FOR ANNUAL NON AD VALOREM TAX ASSESSMENT.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES THREE TO TWO.
TAKE A MOTION ON RESOLUTION 9622, APPROVING THE CONTRACT AWARD TO SHOW ELECTRIC COMPANY WITH PROVISIONS FOR THE BI-ANNUAL RENEWABLES AND INCLUDING A CHANGE ORDER FOR THE FIRST BI-ANNUAL TRIMMING.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES THREE-TO-TWO WITH VICE MAYOR AND COUNCILOR MAY DISSENTING.
[5. Resolution 41-23, Approving the mid-year budget amendments for fiscal year 2023.]
WHICH WAS TOLD THIS WAS PULLED BY, WAS IT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OR OTHER DIET?>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AGAIN, MAIN POSNER, 315 KARINA, DRIVE.
THIS IS A MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT.
I DON'T HAVE THE TAB IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT FOR OUT OF MEMORY, I KNOW IT COVERS A LOT OF ITEMS.
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ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUDGET.I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU UP THERE NOW WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT THAT YOU MADE A BUDGET, YOU AGREED ON IT, YOU VOTED ON IT AND TWO YEARS LATER, A NEW COUNCIL COMES IN AND THROWS IT OUT THE WINDOW.
I SAW HOW HARD YOU JUST WORKED TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN OR NOT HAPPEN.
YOU'RE UP THERE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS.
ONCE YOU MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, YOU DON'T WANT THOSE REMOVED ONCE YOU MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BECAUSE YOU DID A LOT OF WORK ON IT, WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES.
IN THIS CASE, ANDY WESTON, HISTORY WAS SCHEDULED WHEN I WAS A COUNSELOR IN THE BUDGET TO BE FIXED AND DONE.
THIS COUNCIL CHANGED THAT AND CHECKED THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED. I WASN'T HERE WHEN IT HAPPENED.
BUT I THINK WE STILL OWE DOLPHIN A NEW STREET.
JUST LIKE WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE WITH JONES CREEK.
SOMETHING FOR THEIR TAX DOLLARS.
WE NEED TO FORM SOMETHING FOR WHAT THEY'VE PAID FOR.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANT TO FINISH THIS STREET, BUT CAN'T GET THE PROPER EQUIPMENT DOWN THERE TO HELP HER IF NECESSARY.
I REMEMBER ELON KOFFER WHEN HE WAS ON THE COUNCIL, HE SAID NO BECAUSE HE THOUGHT EVERYONE IN TOWN WOULD BE STARTING LINEUP TO HAVE THE STREETS FIXED.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY HERE LINING UP TO GET THEIR STREETS FIXED.
IT'S STILL THE SAME ONE STREET.
I WOULD HOPE THIS COUNCIL DOES MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, DOES SOMETHING FOR ITS CITIZENS.
AN EX-VIETNAM VETERAN, IT'S NOT ME, IT'S FOR THEM, IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE.
ALSO I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE STREET THE OTHER DAY AND I NOTICED THIS IS IN THE BUDGET AS WELL.
I NOTICED THE BLACK AND WHITE POLICE VEHICLE.
NEVER SAW ONE HERE BEFORE. IT SAID JUPITER ON IT.
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANYTHING IN ANY E-MAILS OR ANY NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC OR ANYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE COLOR OF THE POLICE CARS.
NOT THAT THAT MAKES ME ANY BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE LIVING HERE AT 31 OR 32 YEARS.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS COUNCIL, AND I SEE THE BLUE AND I SEE GREEN AND THE LIGHT CEILING, IT PORTRAYS SOMETHING.
AS AN OBSERVER, I CAN SEE IT'S PEACEFUL.
IT'S NICE. WE HAVE A REALLY PEACEFUL TOWN AND A NICE TOWN.
LOOKING AT BLACK AND WHITE CARS TO ME REMINDS ME OF CALIFORNIA OR THE BIG CITIES.
THEY PUT THE BLACK AND WHITE CARS OUT THERE, SHOWS A FORCE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED THAT IN JUPITER.
I LOVED WHAT WAS PUT FORTH IN JUPITER WHEN OUR MANAGER WAS THE CHIEF, WAS SOME BEAUTIFUL STATEMENTS ON THE CARS. THEY'RE WHITE.
THEY'RE PURE. THEY'RE CLEAN, AND OUR POLICE DO A GREAT JOB. I LOVE OUR POLICE.
I HOPE DAVE'S NOT OFFENDED BY THIS, BUT I JUST THINK THE COLOR OF THE CARS IS GOING TO PORTRAY SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE NOT.
TOWN OF JUPITER IS A PEACEFUL TOWN AND BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.
SCOTT REYNOLDS, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THIS EVENING, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT'S BEEN PULLED, WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 4123.
AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR, WE DO IT WITH A MIDYEAR AMENDMENT AND ALSO A YEAR-END AMENDMENT.
BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE ADOPT THE BUDGET, IT'S VERY LINEAR.
IT'S A ONE-YEAR PROCESS THAT WE'RE ADOPTING.
WE HAVE CONTRACTS AND OBLIGATIONS.
IT'S APPROVED THROUGH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS.
SPECIFICALLY, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN HERE ARE CAPITAL RELATED.
WE'RE CARRYING FORWARD THOSE DOLLARS INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
WE HAVE TO AMEND THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION THAT ADOPT THE BUDGET TO CARRY THOSE REMAINING DOLLARS FORWARD TO CONTINUE ON WITH THOSE CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE HAVE AMENDMENTS THAT OCCUR TO THE BUDGET.
THEY COME BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL.
CONTRACT AMENDMENTS, ONE THAT WAS ON THE CRA RECENTLY OR BEFORE THIS MEETING WAS THE ROUNDABOUT.
THERE WAS AN INFLATIONARY COST TO THE BUDGET.
THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR BROUGHT YOU A CONTRACT.
YOU HAD TO AMEND THE BUDGET AT THAT POINT OR YOU AUTHORIZED THAT EXPENDITURE.
NOW WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS OF ACTUALLY AMENDING THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, WHICH IS THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED LAST SEPTEMBER.
THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF OTHER SMALLER TYPE OF AMENDMENTS.
YOU'LL SEE THINGS IN HERE LIKE POLICE AMMUNITION.
THOSE WERE ON ORDER AT THE END OF LAST YEAR DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
THOSE ITEMS DIDN'T COME IN UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO CARRY THOSE DOLLARS FORWARD.
THEY'RE OPERATING DOLLARS, AND WE'VE GOT TO AMEND THE ACTUAL BUDGET TO PAY FOR THOSE ITEMS.
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE AFTER THE AMENDMENTS IS WE'VE BEEN ADDING FOR LAST YEAR, ADDITIONAL EXHIBITS, SPECIFICALLY ON THE CAPITAL ITEMS, SO THAT NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL, BUT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING CARRIED FORWARD THEIR DOLLARS, THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE CARRIED FORWARD INTO THE NEXT YEAR, THAT THEY'RE CONTINUING.WE HAVE TO BUY STATUTE AFTER THE COUNCIL APPROVES THIS RESOLUTION WITHIN FIVE DAYS.
THIS HAS TO BE POSTED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE.
HAS TO STAY THERE FOR TWO YEARS.
THAT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING AMENDED AND QUESTION IT.
ALSO TO COME TO THE MEETINGS, JUST LIKE MR. POSNER DID THIS EVENING.
BUT THE MEANING OF TRANSPARENCY TO BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE TRANSACTIONS OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TOWN'S BUDGET.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF YOU THIS EVENING.
>> JUST A QUESTION. YOU SAID IT, BUT JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
WE ADOPTED OUR BUDGET IN MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE SPENT FROM THE PRIOR YEAR BUDGET.
WE'VE DONE THIS EVERY YEAR, CORRECT? YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY WATCH LEFT.
YOU'VE GOT [OVERLAPPING] CARRIED OVER.
THEN IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE THAT WE DIDN'T ALWAYS DO. THANK YOU.
YOU BROUGHT THIS UP IS FOR ALL THE PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN FUNDED, CAPITAL PROJECTS.
I USED, BY EXAMPLE, THERE'S ONE IN HERE, COLLECTIVE ROADWAY LIGHTING, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS A NUMBER OF COLLECTIVE ROADS AROUND TOWN THAT WAS GOING TO GET DONE.
THE COUNT IS STILL WORKING, WHITTLING AWAY THAT LIST.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ILLUSTRATION.
IT TOOK ME MANY YEARS TO UNDERSTAND THIS, EVEN SITTING UP HERE, BUT THE BELL KANNER ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT UNLESS IT ACTUALLY HAS THE MONEY SET ASIDE, RIGHT?
>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE BANK BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN ENTER A CONTRACT?
>> THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF CARRYOVER PROJECTS.
APPRECIATE THAT IN THE WAY OF TRANSPARENCY.
AGAIN, I JUST THOUGHT, LET ME ALSO MAKE SURE I'M HELPING TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS THE HOUSEKEEPING ONE THAT WE DO EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S SO MANY ON CARRYOVER, I WOULD SAY THAT'S REALLY TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I NEVER KNEW WHETHER WE'RE STILL FUNDED OR IT'S BEEN SWEPT.
NOW WE HAVE A MECHANISM FOR THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT TRANSPARENCY.
>> THE LARGEST BULK OF THE AMENDMENTS YOU WILL SEE DURING THE MID-YEAR PERIOD BECAUSE OF THE END OF YEAR TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.
AS WE GET CLOSER TO YEAR-END, THIS LIST WILL DEFINITELY DWINDLE.
IT WILL BE MUCH SMALLER AT YEAR-END.
>> THANK YOU FOR AN EXPLANATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON COUNCIL?
>> WITH THAT RESOLUTION 4123, I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 4123.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[7. Adopting the Fiscal Year 2023-2024 Strategic Plan.]
WHICH WAS CALLED THE STRATEGIC PLAN.I WOULD HAVE PULLED THAT ONE AS WELL WITH JUST THE DIAS PULLED IT.
I THINK VICE MAYOR, YOU HAD PULLED IT IN COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM AND MYSELF.
>> WELL, I PULLED IT BECAUSE AT THE LAST SESSION, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WE WERE REALLY FINISHED I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST GETTING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAD AS PRIORITIES AND WE LOOKED AT THINGS, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE MORE BEFORE IT WAS FINAL.
I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE THAT IT HAD BEEN FINALIZED BECAUSE I STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON IT AND I WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DISCUSS IT.
>> I THINK I UNDERSTOOD THIS IS GOING TO BE THE PROCESS NONETHELESS, IT WAS REPRESENTED THAT IT WAS GOING TO COME BACK TO US AS STAFF HEARD IT, AND WE THEREFORE EITHER APPROVE IT OR HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT IT SO I GUESS WE CAN HAVE THAT TONIGHT.
I HAD A COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF THEM, BUT WE CAN GO THERE, BUT THAT'S THE NEXT STEP TO COME BACK. DID YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS?
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I SAW THE ALREADY FRAUD ON THE DRAFT I WAS GIVEN, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ITEM WAS REMOVED FROM ANYTHING THAT WE FORMALLY ADOPT.
>> I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR INTENTION. WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
>> I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT AT A PREVIOUS MEETING.
I SAW IT ON THIS DOCUMENT AND JUST BEFORE FINALLY ADOPTING ANYTHING, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS REMOVED BECAUSE I HAD PULLED IT AND I WELCOME DISCUSSIONS WHILE I AGREE I THOUGHT THE PROCESS WAS THAT WE ADOPT IT TONIGHT AND WE DO HAVE OUR BUDGET MEETINGS COMING UP, SO I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT, BUT NOW IS AS GOOD A TIME AS EVER TO DISCUSS.
>> I HAD TO IF I MAY, JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE WORD CHANGES SUGGESTED.
ONE WAS AND I THOUGHT ON THIS FIRST ONE, I HAD ACTUALLY SAID IT IN THE MEETING, BUT UNDER THE NEW TOWN HALL, THE LANGUAGE SAYS YOU DON'T ENCLOSE A NEW TOWN HALL BUILDING IN ADVANCE OF THAT PEAK 2023 STORM SEASON AND COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION BEFORE THE 2024 PEAK STORM SEASON.
I HAD ASKED AT LEAST THAT WAS MY INTENTION, COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION BEFORE THE START OF THE 2024 STORM SEASON, WHICH I UNDERSTOOD WAS NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT TOWN MANAGER, BUT WASN'T THAT THE INTENTION OF STAFF ANYWAY?
>> I WOULD PROPOSE THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE INTENTION OF STAFF.
THAT YOU PICKED IT UP ABOUT ENCLOSING IT BEFORE THE PEAK OF THIS STORM SEASON, BUT THEN THEY COMPLETED IT BEFORE THE START OF NEXT STORM SEASON.
UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS IF WE CAN INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE.
>> I'M HEARING ADDING THE WORDS THE START OF THE 2024 PEAK STORMS.
>> THEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON THIS NEXT ONE GRANTED, WE DIDN'T END UP WITH ANY FINAL CLEAR, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, OUTCOME, BUT ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITY UNDER ACTION PLANS, I FEEL THAT THE APPROPRIATE FIRST STEP IS TO ESTABLISH THE SCOPE OF TRAINING FACILITIES USED BY JPD OUTSIDE OF OUR TOWN IN HISTORICAL FREQUENCY USES.
I'D LIKE TO START WITH WHAT IS THE TRAINING FACILITY BEFORE WE WOULD PROCEED AND DEVELOP A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND LOCATION OPTIONS AND PROPOSED FUNDING STRATEGY.
I DON'T WANT TO BE HIRING A CONSULTANT DOING ALL THAT UNTIL WE AS A COUNCIL, HAVE HAD MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT JUST WHAT EXACTLY IS IT.
>> WOULDN'T THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN ENCOMPASS THAT?
>> WELL, I HAD TALKED TO MISS MORETTO ABOUT THIS.
I THINK SHE MAY HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A ROUND TABLE ANYWAY.
AGAIN, I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE LOOKING AT LOCATION OPTIONS AND PROPOSED FUNDING UNTIL WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS IT.
WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE IN THIS TOWN SO I JUST WANT TO BE EDUCATED ON THAT AND I'M REALLY PROCEEDING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, TO SELF-EDUCATE BUT THIS WAS NOT ONE THAT HAD MADE IT ON THE PLAN IT WAS DISCUSSED AND WE AGREED WELL, LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
THAT'S THE FIRST STEP SO IN ANY EVENT I'M THROWING THAT OUT THERE AS THE FIRST STEP.
>> YOU WANT TO ADD IN EVALUATE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ESTABLISHED SCOPE OF TRAINING FACILITIES USED BY JPD OUTSIDE OF OUR TOWN AND HISTORICAL FREQUENCY OF USE IS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAVE WE BEEN LACKING FOR EMPTYING DECADES THAT WE NOW FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE IN THE TOWN THAT DEFINES WHAT IT IS.
>> WOULD YOU WANT TO START OFF WITH A SCHEDULED PRESENTATION FROM STAFF, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, GET TOGETHER WITH STAFF, EDUCATE OURSELVES, LEARN ABOUT IT AND IF WE AGREE, THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, IS THAT?
>> I THINK [OVERLAPPING] WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT TILL WE DEFINE IT BASED ON WHAT WE GET AS STAFF INPUT.
>> BEFORE WE GET THE PROPOSAL ON LAND ACQUISITION FACILITY COSTS.
NOW, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO KILL IT BUT AT LEAST IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT AS A STARTING STONE FIRST STEP.
>> I'M FINE WITH THAT. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT, COUNCIL?
>> I STILL FEEL LIKE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IT'S THE CONCEPT.
>> YOU PROPOSED IT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, BUT THE REST OF US DON'T.
WE HAVE TRAINING FACILITIES, WHEN THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED IT HAD TRAINING FACILITIES IN IT, NOT ALL THE TRAINING FACILITIES THAT A POLICE NEED.
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BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO GET MY HANDS AROUND WHAT IS THAT.>> JUST ADD ENHANCE THE PROCESS I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
>> I CAN GET THE DETERMINATION OF NEED I HAD TOWARD PALM BEACH GARDENS TRAINING FACILITY AND I HAD SAID EARLIER THAT IT WAS SO EARLY, I DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE PAY ANYTHING FOR THE USE OF THOSE FACILITIES, BUT THEN THEY MAY NOT ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE TO US SO IT IS WORTH UNDERSTANDING THAT DETERMINATION OF NEED.
BUT, YEAH, I ALSO THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
I THINK THE ACTION IS THE SAME HOW WE WORD IT.
>> WELL, YOU MIGHT SAY ABOUT A CONCEPTUAL PLAN, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT LOCATION OPTIONS AND PROPOSED FUNDING THAT PRE-SUPPOSES WE NEED ONE.
MAYBE THE RIGHT SOLUTION IS TO FORMALLY PARTNER WITH THE GARDENERS I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T WANT TO PRESUPPOSE ANYTHING THAT'S WHY I PUT IT DOWN.
WHAT'S THE SCOPE OF TRAINING FACILITIES THAT OUR POLICE HAVE USED OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN AND WHAT'S THE HISTORICAL FREQUENCY USES? I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> I JUST VIEWED THOSE AS SEPARATE ELEMENTS THAT EACH WOULD BE DONE WITH THE EVALUATE THE NEED, COME UP WITH A CONSENSUAL PLAN IS THERE A PLACE FOR IT? HOW WOULD WE PAY FOR IT? I JUST THINK THAT'S ALL PART OF THINKING IT THROUGH DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE COMMITTING TO ANYTHING I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT WOULD GO INTO THE EVALUATION.
>> IT'S A GOOD FIRST STEP AND THEN IF IT'S POSITIVE, WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> YEAH, WE HAVE A PREMIER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T WANT TO BE SENDING THEM ELSEWHERE TO DO TRAINING SO I WANT THEM HERE ON CAMPUS IN TOWN DOING THEIR TRAINING.
THAT IS WHAT THEY DESERVE SO THAT WAS WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT AND YOU'RE THE FIRST RESPONDER OF BUSINESS BECAUSE YOU GET TRAINED SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT FAR MORE THAN WE DO SO WE JUST WANT TO CATCH UP TO YOU.
>> IT'S JUST [OVERLAPPING] WHEN YOU'RE SENDING UNITS OUT OF THE TOWN TO TRAIN, TO QUALIFY AND DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS YOU'RE LOSING RESOURCES BECAUSE IF THEY ARE HERE DOING THE TRAINING AND SOMETHING HAPPENS, THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND WITHIN THE TOWN IF THEY'RE DOWN IN WEST PALM BEACH AT THE SHERIFF'S SHOOTING RANGE OUT THERE AND SOMETHING HAPPENS HERE.
THEY'RE GOING TO RESPOND ALL THE WAY BACK UP HERE.
>> THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED SOMETHING, RIGHT HERE IN TOWN.
>> IT'S FAR MORE EFFICIENT, BOTTOM LINE.
>> THEN AGAIN I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE SHERIFF SHOOTING RANGE OF WEST PALM BEACH, SO THAT'S PART OF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE NEED [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S WEST PALM BEACH COUNTY.
IT'S OUT LIKE I THINK CORBETT.
>> TWENTY MILES THEN SO THAT'S 45 MINUTES, AT LEAST IF.
>> THAT WAS MY CONCEPT BEHIND DOING OUR OWN PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITY.
>> I'M I HEARING THAT I'M ADDING THE PRELIMINARY STEP BUT MAINTAINING WHAT'S THERE AS A SECOND STEP.
>> WHAT'S THERE NOW BECOMES NUMBER 2.
>> WE WERE ROUND TABLE AFTER WE GET THE FIRST ONE TO UNDERSTAND.
I REALIZED THAT COUNCIL MAY THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET GRANTS FOR AT ALL, BUT [NOISE].
>> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE [OVERLAPPING] THE BEST LOBBYISTS AND THE BUSINESS.
>> SORRY FOR THE ORDERING WOULD THE FIRST BE THE DETERMINATION OF NEED AND THE SECOND BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF CONCEPTUAL PLAN?
>> THAT'S IT, WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING.
>> I HAD A COUPLE SO UNDER UNIQUE SMALL-TOWN FEEL, THERE WAS AN ITEM ABOUT THE JTAA PARTNERSHIP WHICH IS BASICALLY THE ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES FOR RECREATION AND I THOUGHT THAT REALLY SHOULD BE SOMETHING UNDER THE MASTER PLAN OF HOW WE HANDLE SERVING THE RECREATION NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHAT FACILITIES WE HAVE, WHO'S GOING TO DO WHAT AND I DIDN'T REALLY SEE THAT AS A SEPARATE ITEM.
I WANTED TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE WHOLE LOOK AT HOW WE HANDLE RECREATION.
>> MY MAIN MOTIVATION WAS THAT WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE JUPITER RESIDENTS AND THEIR KIDS ARE GETTING BANG FOR THE BUCK.
>> BUT IF WE CAN COMBINE IT AND I'M ALWAYS INTO STREAMLINING AND PUTTING ANYTHING UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA THAT'S FEASIBLE. THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
>> YEAH. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY THE SAME SUBJECT MATTER AND WHICH SHOULD LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE OF HOW WE PROVIDE THINGS.
>> I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE WAY STAFF LOOKED AT IT AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT IS THE FACILITY MASTER PLAN OF THE FACILITIES WHICH WE HAVE HISTORICALLY EITHER PROVIDED OR HEALTH TO GET SET,
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WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE ONE TO EXPLORE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY, UPGRADE THE WEST COMMUNITY CENTER TO MAYBE HAVE A SITE EXPANSION TO INCLUDE, CREATE MORE INDOOR FACILITIES.THAT'S A FACILITY. EVEN IF WE PUT, I'M OKAY WITH MOVING IT THERE, BUT THE JT PARTNERSHIP IS, IN FACT JUST THAT, IT'S THE PARTNERSHIP ON WHO WE ALLOW OR WE WILL WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW A GROUP TO DO THAT, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE TOWN.
>> YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE IT GET BOGGED DOWN IN THE OTHER ISSUES IN THE MASTER PLAN.
>> OR YOU CAN CHANGE THE TITLE OF IT TO THE MANAGEMENT OF TOWN RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
BECAUSE I REALLY THINK IT'S A BROADER QUESTION ABOUT HOW THE RESOURCES ARE ALLOCATED AND THE SYSTEM.
THIS IS QUITE A PRESUMES AN OUTCOME.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TAKE A BIGGER LOOK AT HOW THE RESOURCES WERE MANAGED.
YOU CAN EITHER MOVE IT OR CHANGE THE NAME.
>> I'M OKAY EITHER WAY. IT IS A DISTINCT ITEM.
>> I WOULD JUST DEFER THE STAFF ON THE EFFICIENCY OF GETTING IT DONE. THAT'S ALL.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS WITHIN THIS CATEGORY REGARDING RECREATION.
IS IT THE SUGGESTION TO COMBINE IT WITH RECREATION FACILITY MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS THE FIRST ITEM ON SLIDE 21, OR WITH ATHLETIC FACILITY USAGE, WHICH IS THE SECOND ITEM ON THAT PAGE.
>> PROBABLY THE SECOND SECOND.
>> PROBABLY THE SECOND ONE. YEAH.
>> OTHERWISE, YOU CAN WALK DOWN.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THE OTHER ITEM I HAD WAS ON FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
WE HAVE THE FIRE RESCUE STRATEGY AND WE JUST FINISHED THE CONTRACT, SO I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY REMOVE THAT ITEM.
>> WE JUST FINISHED A 10 YEAR AGREEMENT, SO WHY DO WE NEED?
WE DON'T YET KNOW WHAT THE RATES ARE GOING TO BE.
WE NEED TO ADD AGREEMENT TO RUN ITS COURSE THROUGH THE COUNTY, AND THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE TOWN HAS TO DECIDE.
>> I ALSO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.
I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COMPLETE BECAUSE IT HASN'T WORKED ITS WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS YET.
>> YEAH. THERE'S SOME ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF WHO IS WILLING SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 15 MINUTES IF EVERYBODY JUST SITS DOWN TO DO IT TO SORT OUT THE LANGUAGE.
BUT I MEAN, IT JUST ODD THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE STRAIN ON STAFF RESOURCES, AND YET WE HAVE AN ITEM HERE TO TAKE STAFF RESOURCES ON SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE A 10 YEAR CONTRACT AND YET OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE HAVE TO FALL TO THE WAYSIDE.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT USE OF STAFF RESOURCES, I REALLY QUESTION WHY THIS NEEDS TO BE A STRATEGIC ITEM THIS YEAR WHEN WE JUST COMPLETED THE CONTRACT.
>> I'M BEING TOLD SOMETHING MAY COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, I DON'T KNOW THE NATURE OF IT.
I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT IT, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM COMPLETE TO ME YET.
>> I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE WE BASICALLY, AS THEIR CONTRACT AND NOW THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH THE LANGUAGE AND THAT'S ODD, BUT I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THE MAYOR.
>> YEAH. WELL, THAT SEEMS BAD FAITH, REALLY.
>> YEAH. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE CONTRACT THAT WE VOTED TO APPROVE IS NOT THE CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED.
BUT I AGREE WITH THE VICE MAYOR THAT I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE A STRATEGIC PRIORITY FOR FIRE RESCUE WHEN WE JUST VOTED FOR A 10-YEAR CONTRACT.
>> WE VOTED ON THREE TO TWO TO ADVANCED.
THEN A LOCAL AGREEMENT GIVEN US THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE SERVICES WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY AS WE AGREED TO.
>> THAT MEANS THAT THEIR SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS.
WHY DO WE NEED TO DEVOTE STAFF TIME INTO LOOKING AT HOW TO PROVIDE.
>> WE ARE NOT ASKING STAFF TO DO ANYTHING, IT WILL COME TO COUNCIL BE THE ONE TO BRING THIS BACK UP.
THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF TRUST AND WHATEVER THE COUNTY ASKED FOR IT AND NOT IN ALL OF US.
I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE INITIAL AD VALOREM RATES GOING TO SETTING IS GOING TO BE ON THIS.
WE SHOULD KNOW THAT IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
>> WELL, IT'S A 10-YEAR CONTRACT.
>> TEN YEAR IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH PROVISIONS, SHOULD A COUNCIL MAJORITY DECIDE THAT TO CREATE A NEW
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[INAUDIBLE] IN TOWN [INAUDIBLE].I THINK WE'VE GOT THREE, I'D SAY KEEP IT IN THERE.
>> THAT'S BAD FAITH. BAD FAITH NEGOTIATED.
>> AM I HEARING APPROVED WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS OR IS THERE A NEED TO BRING THIS BACK IF STAFF COULD GET SOME DIRECTION?
>> I THINK IT'S APPROVED WITH THE AMENDMENT.
>> DO WE HAVE TO GIVE A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM?
>> CONSENSUS DIRECTION WOULD BE FINE.
RESOLUTION TO ADOPT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, MEETING EXPECTATIONS EVEN THERE WERE SOME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING ON TO FIRST ITEM UNDER PUBLIC HEARING,
[8. Ordinance 6-23, Second Reading, – Zoning text amendment to modify Sections 27- 3359 and 27-3362 regarding sign location and area regulations for the Medical Center zoning district, and to add regulations for parking structures and directory signs.]
REGULAR AGENDA ORDINANCE 6-23.>> MAYOR I'D BE ABSTAINING AS I DID ON FIRST READING.
>> TURN THE STAFF, I'LL TURN THE COUNCIL FIRST.
I BELIEVE THIS ONE WAS IRREGULAR AGENDA ITEM, KNOWING THAT THERE'S GOING BE COUNSELOR ABSTAINING.
DOES ANYBODY NEEDED TO HEAR ANYTHING FROM STAFF ON THIS? SINCE IT'S THE SECOND READING, I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ORDINANCE 623 ON SECOND READING.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND, AND I'D ASK TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ ORDINANCE 623 ON SHORT TITLE.
>> ORDINANCE 623 AND ORDINANCES TOWN COUNCIL TOWN JUPITER, FLORIDA AMENDING, ADDING AND MODIFYING SAME LOCATION IN THE AREA OF REGULATIONS FOR HOSPITAL ID SIGNS, FREESTANDING SIGNS, DIRECTORY SIGNS, AND FOR PARKING GARAGE SIGNS IN THE MEDICAL ZONING DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL BODY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL GLASS AND CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> WATCHING A SECOND OWN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES 4, 0 WITH A COUNSELOR ABSTAINING.
WITH THAT, IF YOU'LL REJOIN US IN THE MEETING.
JOIN US, WE'LL BEGIN WITH PUBLIC BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER 9.
[9. Consideration to name the Jupiter Police Department Headquarters after Chief Glynn Mayo]
>> IT BREAKS THAT UP. [LAUGHTER]
>> IF I ASK THE CHIEF TO KICK US OFF HERE.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.
ON MARCH 9TH OF 2023, FOUR INDIVIDUALS SPOKE DURING THE CITIZEN COMMON PORTION AT THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING REQUESTING COUNCIL RECONSIDER THE NAMING OF THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS IN THE HONOR OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO.
IN SUPPORT OF THEIR POSITION THEY PROVIDED COUNSEL WITH A FUN FACTS GUIDE ABOUT CHIEF GLYNN MAYO LISTING, A PALM BEACH POST ARTICLE DATED MAY OF 1991,
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A PRINTED MEMORIAL OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO RELATED TO HIS PASSING, TWO PAGES FROM HISTORICAL PUBLICATION RELATED TO CHIEF GLYNN MAYO IN HIS RECOGNITION BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S LEGISLATURE.THE JUPITER POLICE FARM HEADQUARTERS IS A 38,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WHICH OPENED IN OCTOBER 2021.
THE FACILITY COMPRISES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND A 2000 SQUARE FOOT INFORMATION SYSTEMS OR TECHNOLOGY DATACENTER, WHICH COSTS APPROXIMATELY $18 MILLION TO CONSTRUCT.
THIS STATE OF THE ART BUILDING CONTAINS AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER OF PROPERTY IN EVIDENCED AREA, A HIGH-TECH BRIEFING ROOM, A COMMUNITY ROOM, A RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICE, EXERCISE AND WORKOUT ROOMS, SPACE FOR SWORN AND CIVILIAN TO WORK AND ROOM FOR BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE INFORMATION SYSTEMS DEPARTMENT TO GROW IN THE FUTURE.
EXCUSE ME, THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A BACKUP GENERATOR WHICH CAN POWER THE ENTIRE FACILITY POST HURRICANE FOR UP TO SEVEN CONSECUTIVE DAYS WITHOUT INTERRUPTION, THUS ENSURING THE CONTINUED GOVERNMENT SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC AFTER A NATURAL DISASTER.
GLYNN CHIEF MAYO SERVED AS THE SECOND OF SIX POLICE CHIEFS FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
IN 1955, HE BEGAN HIS CAREER AS A PALM BEACH COUNTY CONSTABLE RESPONSIBLE FOR NORTHERN PALM BEACH COUNTY AS WELL AS HOPE SOUND.
ON MAY 6TH OF 1958, HE BECAME THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
CHIEF MAYO ULTIMATELY RETIRED IN 1987 AND HE PASSED AWAY MAY 26 OF 1991.
IN 1992, ALTERNATE A1A FROM DONALD ROSS ROAD, THE US HIGHWAY 1 WAS DEDICATED IN CHIEF MAYO'S NAME AS THE "GLYNN MAYO HIGHWAY" BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.
IN RECOGNITION OF THIS HIGHWAY DESIGNATION, SIGNAGE WAS POSTED ON TWO SEPARATE LOCATIONS, SOUTHBOUND ALTERNATE A1A AT INDIANTOWN ROAD, AS WELL AS NORTHBOUND ALTERNATE A1A JUST NORTH OF DONALD ROSS ROAD.
THIS IS ACCORDING TO THE GENERAL ACTS RESOLUTION IN MEMORIALS ADOPTED BY THE 12TH LEGISLATION OF FLORIDA UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AS REVISED ON 1969, PAGE 1,156.
IN THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WHICH WAS PUBLISHED ABOUT TWO WEEKS, SO WE'VE LISTED THE SIX POLICE CHIEFS THAT THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD PREVIOUSLY HISTORICALLY RECOGNIZED AS THE CHIEFS OF POLICE MAY INCLUDE CHIEF WILLIAMS, THEN CHIEF MAYO, CHIEF WESTGATE, CHIEF KITZEROW, CHIEF KERR.
SINCE THEN, I SHOULD SAY THAT WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH.
BASED ON A TELEPHONE CALL LAST MONDAY THAT I HAD WITH MRS. GROOMS, SHE INDICATED THAT SHE BELIEVED THAT CHIEF MAYO WAS THE FIRST OFFICER AND THE FIRST CHIEF OF POLICE.
IN SUPPORT OF THAT POSITION, SHE FORWARDED ME AN EMAIL FROM AN INDIVIDUAL NAMED JOSH LILLER, WHO'S LISTED AS A HISTORIAN AND A COLLECTOR'S OF MANAGER FOR THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER SOCIETY.
SO IN THAT LETTER, HE WROTE THAT CHIEF WILSON WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO BE THE POLICE CHIEF FROM 1925-1927 PROBABLY WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WELFARE TITLE, BUT HE WASN'T SURE.
THE BOTTOM OF THIS EMAIL, THE REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP, HE STATED THAT THE SITUATION OF THE TOWN POLICE 1925-1929 IS MURKY AND CAN PROBABLY ONLY BE RESOLVED BY SOME EXAMINATION OF TOWN MEETING MINUTES.
I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER THE POSTING OF THIS LAST MONDAY AND TUESDAY TO SPEAK WITH MS. CAHILL, WHO'S THE CHANNEL CLERK.
MS. CAHILL AND HER TEAM DOES SOME RESEARCH.
SO WHAT SHE WAS ABLE TO LOCATE WERE THE TOWN MEETING MINUTES FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER FROM JULY 30TH, 1927, HELD IN THE TOWN COUNCIL ROOM AT TOWN HALL.
IN THIS DOCUMENT, IT REFLECTS THAT THE TOWN OF JUPITER HAD A CHIEF MIRANDA AND A OFFICER BY THE NAME OF FORCE, AND THE MEETING MINUTES TALKING ABOUT SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES AND SOME SPEEDING COMPLAINTS THAT CHIEF MIRANDA WAS DEALING WITH.
IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT AN ILLNESS THAT CHIEF MIRANDA HAD.
SO MEETING MINUTES, AGAIN FROM THE TOWN OF JUPITER FOR A TOWN COUNCIL MEETING HELD IN TOWN HALL DATED SEPTEMBER 6TH, 1927, INDICATED THAT A CHIEF WILSON TOOK OVER AS CHIEF OF POLICE, AND CHIEF WILSON WAS GRANTED THREE WEEKS OF VACATION TIME AS PART OF HIS EMPLOYMENT WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THERE WAS A PORTION OF THAT CONVERSATION, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED ON PAGE 178.
IT'S ONLY FOUR PAGES, BUT HAPPENS TO BE PRINTED PAGE 178 WHERE IT SAYS CONTROVERSY FOLLOWED AS TO WHO WAS THE HEAD OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT WAS DECIDED THAT MR. WILSON AS CHIEF OF POLICE AND HE WAS ULTIMATELY TO BE DIRECTED, I'M SORRY.
THAT HIS DIRECT CHARGE HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COMMISSION OF THE PUBLIC WELFARE, COMMISSIONER ALBERTSON.
MS, CAHILL ALSO PROVIDED ME A PAGE FROM THE LOXAHATCHEE.
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THERE'S A BOOK THAT'S PUT TOGETHER A BUNCH OF STORIES FROM INDIVIDUALS FROM JUPITER, SO THAT BOOK ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT CHIEF WILLIAMS AS THE FIRST POLICE CHIEF.LOOKING AT THE MARCH 13TH, 1928 COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM THE COUNCIL MEETING HELD IN TOWN HALL, IT DOES REFER TO MR. JAMES WILSON, BUT IT DOESN'T REFER TO THEM BY THE TITLE OF POLICE CHIEF, AS SAME AS AND OFFICER AND ACTUALLY DOCUMENT GOES ON RECOMMENDING THIS TERMINATION FROM EMPLOYMENT, ALTHOUGH THE DOCUMENT DOESN'T SAY THAT HE ACTUALLY WAS TERMINATED, BUT IT DOES LIST HIM AS THE POLICE OFFICER AT THE TIME.
I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE LOXAHATCHEE BOOK THAT I JUST MENTIONED, THE ARTICLE WAS FROM MRS. WILLIAMS SENIOR AND SHE REFERRED TO HER HUSBAND AS THE FIRST CHIEF OF POLICE.
TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHO WAS THE FIRST CHIEF OF POLICE? WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THE TOWN DOCUMENTS DO RECOGNIZE CHIEF MIRANDA, CHIEF WILSON, MR. WILLIAMS OR CHIEF WILLIAMS, IF YOU ACCEPT HIM AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THEN CHIEF MAYO, CHIEF WESTGATE, CHIEF KITZEROW AND CHIEF KERR.
SINCE THAT MARCH 9TH MEETING, I'VE HAD INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT CERTAIN POINTS AS FAR AS OPTIONS FOR RECOGNIZING CHIEF GLYNN MAYO.
WITH RESPECT TO THE CURRENT ROADWAY SIGNAGE FOR THE DEDICATION OF THE ALTERNATE A1A DESIGNATION, NEW SIGNAGE COULD BE DESIGNED OR INSTALLED TO BETTER HIGHLIGHT THE HIGHWAY DESIGNATION AND BRING GREATER ATTENTION TO CHIEF GLYNN MAYO.
IN ADDITION TO THESE SIGNS, A PROPOSAL FOR A MONUMENT WAS MENTIONED OR SOME NEW SIGNAGE OR PLAQUE MEMORIALIZING CHIEF GLYNN'S MAYO YEARS OF SERVICE AND HIS LEGACY AS CAN BE PLACED IN SOME SORT OF LOCATION ALONG A1A THAT WOULD BE VISIBLE TO BOTH BICYCLISTS IN THE MOTORING PUBLIC.
A SECOND ITEM THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME BY INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT PRESENT BACK TO COUNCIL WOULD BE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE WALL OF HONOR WITHIN THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS, WITHIN THE LOBBY THAT COULD LIST ALL OF THE PAST CHIEFS, AND HAVE SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL CHIEFS.
NOW, PREVIOUSLY WE DID HAVE A WALL WORK, WE JUST LISTED PICTURES AND THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE.
BUT WHAT THE CONCEPT THERE WAS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOME BIOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION AND A DESCRIPTION OF ALL OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS THROUGHOUT THEIR TENURE AS POLICE CHIEF.
THE THIRD ITEM DISCUSSED IS NAMING HE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY ROOM IN THE NAME OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO REGARDING HIS TENURE AND HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THIS WOULD LOOK SIMILAR TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS THE [INAUDIBLE] GYMNASIUM THAT IS WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER'S COMMUNITY CENTER.
IN EARLY APRIL OF THIS YEAR, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT I PRESENT THIS ISSUE TO COUNSEL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
IN CULMINATION OF ALL THE SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS, THE ITEMS THAT ARE PRESENTED AS POTENTIAL OPTIONS WOULD BE ONE, JUST NAMING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE NAME OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO.
THE SECOND OR CONVERSELY WOULD BE TO CREATE A LIST OF CANDIDATES ACCORDING TO WHATEVER TOWN COUNCIL IS CRITERIAS FOR TOWN COUNCIL TO CONSIDER NAMING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AFTER SOMEBODY, WHATEVER THAT CRITERIA IS AS FAR AS EITHER THEIR TITLE, WHAT POSITION THEY HELD, THEIR USER SERVICE, WHETHER THEY PASSED AWAY IN THE LINE OF DUTY OR WHATNOT, WHATEVER COUNCIL DIRECTED.
ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THE MONUMENT OR THE SIGNER PACKAGE SHOULD BE PLACED ALONG THE CURRENT ROADWAY AND ALTERNATE A1A WITH THE GLYNN MAYO HIGHWAY.
I CAN TELL YOU IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THERE, IT'S WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATIONS RIGHT-OF-WAY.
IT'S A GREEN REFLECTIVE METAL SIGN ON BOTH WAYS, WE COULD WORK WITH BECAUSE THAT'S AN FDOT SIGN-IN DRIVEWAY, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE THEM DO THE WORK.
BUT IF WE WANTED TO REDESIGN THAT TO BRING GREATER ATTENTION TO CHIEF GLYNN MAYO, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS AN OPTION.
THE THIRD WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THIS WALL OF HONOR TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE PAST CHIEFS AND ALL THE FUTURE CHIEFS.
THE FOURTH OPTION WOULD BE THAT DESIGNATE THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY ROOM, SIMILARLY SPACE WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] GYMNASIUM IN THE NAME OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO, OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF OF SIGNAGE IS PLAQUES, ROOMS, OR WALLS OF HONOR.
I PRESENT THOSE ITEMS TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
>> BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON DISCUSSION UP ON THE DICE AND WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> YES, MAYOR. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MARK BRESSLER, FOLLOWED BY PENNY PAYNE.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARK BRESSLER, 360 FIESTA AVENUE TEQUESTA.
I'VE BEEN ARRESTED INTO THE JUPITER TEQUESTA AREAS SINCE JANUARY OF 1971.
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THAT'S 52 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES SINCE MY FAMILY ARRIVED HERE IN THE PLACE I CALL PARADISE ON EARTH.I'M GOING TO BREAK UP THIS BRIEF STATEMENT INTO TWO PARTS.
THE OPINIONS OF MY FATHER IS TOLD TO ME, MATTHEW BRESSLER, AND THEN MY OWN.
BEFORE THE YEAR WAS OUT, MY FATHER'S EMPLOYER, RCA, DECIDED TO GET OUT OF THE COMPUTER BUSINESS.
THEY DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS MUCH FUTURE IN IT AND WE ARE FACED WITH LEAVING JUPITER.
MY PARENTS LOVED THIS AREA SO MUCH THAT THEY INVESTED EVERY PENNY THEY OWNED AND PURCHASES THE ORIGINAL JUPITER MARINA.
IT WAS LOCATED ON A PIECE OF WATERFRONT THAT IS NOW SAWFISH BAY PARK.
THEY WERE THE LAST OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY AND BUSINESS THAT PLAYED A VITAL AND CENTRAL ROLE IN TRAVEL, COMMERCE AND THE ONCE VIBRANT COMMERCIAL FISHING INDUSTRY HERE.
DURING THAT LAST DECADE THOUGH, MY FATHER SERVED ON THE TOWN COUNCIL AND WAS ONE TERM AS VICE MAYOR.
IN THAT ROLE, HE WORKED CLOSELY WITH POLICE CHIEF MAYO AND THE HANDFUL OF OTHER TOWN OFFICIALS.
MANY TIMES HE WOULD LAUD THE EFFORTS OF CHIEF MAYO NOT ONLY IN THE PERFORMANCE OF HIS DUTIES, BUT FOR THE FORESIGHT, FULLNESS THAT HE HAD IN GUIDING THIS TINY TOWN AS HE GREW.
I JUST HEARD A BUNCH OF NAMES, POLICE CHIEFS.
NO ONE'S SPEND AS MUCH TIME IN OFFICE DURING A MORE CRITICAL PERIOD IN JUPITER'S HISTORY THAN CHIEF MAYO DID.
HIS ONE MAN DEPARTMENT OF THE LATE '50S HAD GROWN IN NOT ONLY STAFF, BUT IN THE INTRODUCTION OF TECHNOLOGY, THE BURDEN OF GROWTH THAT HAD TO BE MATCHED AGAINST THE BUDGETARY TAX BASE THAT THE TOWN TRIED TO KEEP MANAGEABLE AND WITH LITTLE HELP FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AT ONE TIME THEY ONLY HAVE ONE DEPUTY NORTH 45TH STREET.
IN MY CASE, I WAS JUST 16 YEARS OLD WHEN I BECAME A REPORTER, PHOTOGRAPHER FOR BETTY BUSHES WEEKLY NEWSPAPER HERE IN TOWN.
THE BEAK OF NEWS [LAUGHTER] AMONG OTHER DUTIES, I COVERED TOWN MEETINGS, THE JUPITER POLICE LED BY CHIEF MAYO AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WENT ON IN JUPITER IS WELL-DOCUMENTED.
THE LOBBYING AND PERSONAL EFFORT, THE CHIEF MAYO INVESTED IN GETTING ALTERNATE A1A WIDEN FROM A TWO LANE DEATH TRAP ALL THE WAY FROM THE TIGHT SQUEEZE NORTH OF THE OLD LUXE HACE RIVER BRIDGE, THEN SOUTH TO DONALD ROSS ROAD.
FOR THAT EFFORT, HE WAS HONORED AND RECOGNIZED. THAT'S FINE.
BUT WHAT HE DID AND THIS YOUNG MAN'S OPINION, IT'S NOT AS EASILY QUANTIFIED.
YOU SEE, I WASN'T JUST PECKING AWAY AT BETTY BUSHES TYPEWRITERS.
AS A TEENAGER, I ARRANGED TO RENT THE CIVIC CENTER THROAT GIANT PARTIES FOR TEENS IN TOWNS.
THIS WAS A RESPONSE TO THE COUNTY CLOSING DOWN COUNTY PARKS, CARLIN PARK FOR US AT SUNDOWN, LEAVING LOCAL YOUTH WITHOUT A SAFE PLACE TO CONGREGATE.
I WOULD RENT THE CIVIC CENTER.
I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 10 BUCKS THEN.
GET A LOCAL BAND TO PLAY FOR FREE AND SPREAD THE WORD.
BACK THEN THERE WAS NO SOCIAL MEDIA, JUST A FEW CARS PARKED IN FRONT AND EVERYBODY KNEW, GUESS WHO WAS THERE IN THE PARKING LOT THAT FIRST NIGHT.
THE JUPITER POLICE, ALONG WITH CHIEF MAYO, KEEPING NOT ONLY A WATCHFUL EYE ON THE GATHERING, BUT OFFERING ADVICE.
SERGEANT BILL REICHERT SAID TO ME, MY IDEA TO SELL BEER FOR $0.35 OF CAN.
HE SAID, LET'S NOT BE MET, MARK.
YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE AND RALPH SAYS YOU NEED TO COMPETITION OR WRAP IT UP.
ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT IN HIS PARTICULAR TIME IN SERVICE AS THE CHIEF HE DID MORE FOR THIS TOWN AND BROUGHT IT IN TRANSFORMATION FROM A SMALL LITTLE TOWN TO ONE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN GROWTH.
AND I THINK AT THAT POINT, IT'S A NO-BRAINER FOR ME TO SAY THAT TWO BUILDINGS SHOULD BE NOT NAMED AFTER HIM.
>> HOW DO I FOLLOW THAT? I'M PENNY PAYNE, I'M THE RESIDENT AT THE FARMS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TONIGHT.
AS YOU KNOW, THE TOWNS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT ESTABLISHED A POLICY IN 2001 FOR NAMING PUBLIC FACILITIES OWNED BY THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
SPECIFICALLY, THE POLICY STATES THAT FACILITIES OWNED BY THE TOWN HAS BEEN NAMED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LOCATION, FUNCTION AND OR HISTORICAL REFERENCE, I E JUPITER VILLAGE PARK.
JUSTICE, FORMER MAYOR KAREN GOLANKA SERVED FOR 28 YEARS.
MR. MAYO SERVED FOR 28, BOTH SERVED TO ENSURE THAT JUPITER, WHICH AIRED IN A SUSTAINABLE FASHION, SETTING THE FRAMEWORK FOR TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THE SPECIAL QUALITIES THAT NEED OUR JUPITER UNIQUE PRESERVING MANY OF THE TOWNS SMALL TOWN QUALITIES, AND ENSURING A VIBRANT COMMUNITY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AS WELL DEMONSTRATED.
OVER THE YEARS JUPITER'S POLICE DEPARTMENT CALLED SEVERAL BUILDINGS THEIR HOME, INCLUDING MISS MAYORS HOME.
AS THE DEPARTMENT GREW, THE 100 OLD TOWN HALL BECAME HOME TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN WHO PROTECTED AND SERVED THIS TOWN, IT'S RESIDENTS AND PASSERS-BY.
AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOVED TO THE CAMPUS HE STAND OR SIT ON TODAY, THE DEPARTMENT HAS FLOURISHED, CONTINUES TO FLOURISH AND HOPEFULLY WILL GROW.
PROGRAMS NOW INCLUDE MARINE AND ENFORCEMENT,
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COMMUNITY CRIME THAT SPECIAL NEEDS REGISTRY, CITIZENS, POLICE ACADEMY, JUPITER POLICE ACADEMY, TEEN ACADEMY, COFFEE WITH THE COPS, COPS AND TEENS TALK, NATIONAL READOUT EXPLORERS PROGRAM, COPS AND TODDLERS, WALK AND TALK, ETC, INCLUDING AMERICAN RED CROSS PROGRAMS, READY.GOV, SECURE FLORIDA AND OF COURSE, HOMELAND SECURITY.WE HAVE THIS FRAMEWORK BECAUSE OF THE WORK OF CAPTAIN AND CHIEF MAYO.
WE GREW SO MUCH THAT COUNCIL DECIDED TO INVEST MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO ERECT THE BUILDING BEAUTIFUL THAT YOU SEE TODAY OUT BEFORE US.
WE SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU DEDICATE IT TO THE MAN WHO HAD A VISION AND BROUGHT THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS MODERN AGENCY.
WE CELEBRATE BURTON LANI, PERRY COMO, DON DOLBY, JUDGE NELSON, ALL OF WHOM I MET CELEBRITIES WHO CALLED JUPITER HOME, TIGER WOODS, CELINE DION, GREG NORMAN, KID ROCK, RICKIE FOWLER, ALAN JACKSON, BROOKS KOEPKA, DARA TORRES, MICHAEL JACKSON, ERNIE ALICE, TICKER TORRES, CODY PARKEY, TIFFANY COPELAND, MIKE SCHMIDT, BRENT MUSBERGER, BRIAN CAMERON, JOHNNY BENCH AND TYRA CAMERON.
WE HAVE RECOGNIZED MANY PIONEERS WHO LAID THE GROUNDWORK INCLUDING THE PANIC FAMILY THAT RUINS THE DUBOIS, THE CARLIN, THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ADDED A NUMBER OR EVEN A CANINE TEAM MEMBER NAMED IN MEMORY BURT REYNOLDS, MOST ICONIC CHARACTER.
WE ENJOY PROPERTIES EVERY DAY THAT RECOGNIZE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY, THE STATE, THE COUNTY, EVEN OUR NEIGHBORING TOWNS AND VILLAGES HAVE RECOGNIZED STAKEHOLDERS IN THE JUPITER THAT WE LOVE.
THE HISTORIC TRUST RECOGNIZES PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT JUST BY AGE BUT ALSO BY RELATIONSHIP TWO SIGNIFICANT FIGURES AND BY ORDER OF COUNCIL, WE SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU TEACH RESPONSIBILITY, HUMANIZED LAW AND ORDER, AND HONOR PIONEER, THE PEOPLE HAVE ASKED, PLEASE NAME THIS BUILDING THE GLYNN MAYO POLICE DEPARTMENT [APPLAUSE] [NOISE].
>> KATHY FAGAN AND LEILANI WEBBERG.
>> I JUST SAY IT LIKE THE NEXT OUT THERE.
>> SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE ALONE.
>> WE'VE BEEN FRIENDS AS LONG AS HE WAS CHIEF OF POLICE.
I'M KATHY FAGAN, I LIVE IN JUPITER AND ALL THE FAMILIAR FACES, I PROBABLY WAS OUT THERE CAMPAIGNING FOR MOST OF YOU.
I CAN'T SPEAK LIKE MARK OR PENNY, I DON'T HAVE ALL THAT ARTICULATION TO SAY WHAT IS IN MY HEART MORE THAN THE FACT THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE SMALL TOWN.
WHEN I LEFT AFTER HIGH SCHOOL AND I MOVED AWAY, I COULDN'T WAIT TO COME BACK.
I CAME BACK HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE FAMILY FEELING THAT THIS TOWN HAS AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT IT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE DID AND HOW HIM AS A PERSON, AS A HUMAN BEING FORGET ABOUT THE CHIEF OF POLICE RESONATED ON US AS CHILDREN, AS YOUNG ADULTS AND THE WAY THAT HE JUST PERSEVERED IN HIS EXAMPLE.
REALLY JUST SHOWED US BY ACTION OF DOING THE RIGHT THING, HAVING INTEGRITY, BEING HONEST, AND BEING A GOOD CITIZEN, AND BUILDING OUR LIVES HERE IN THIS TOWN.
OUR FAMILIES, OUR CHILDREN, OUR PARENTS, AND JUST GROWING JUPITER TO BE WHAT IT IS TODAY.
WE CAN COME UP WITH A MILLION DIFFERENT NAMES TO NAME THINGS AND WE CAN NAME THIS AND WE COULD NAME THAT, BUT THERE'S NO ONE IN MY MIND THAT RESONATES THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THIS TOWN, IF YOU WILL, FOR 29 YEARS.
IT'S JUST TO ME, SOMEBODY ELSE SAID IT'S A NO-BRAINER.
I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD BE OPPOSED.
THAT'S WHAT I CAN'T SEEM TO GET MY HEAD AROUND.
I KNOW THREE OF YOU ON A FIRST-NAME BASIS ACTUALLY FOUR [LAUGHTER] AND I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT.
MY HUSBAND IS HERE WITH ME TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME AS FIRST-TIME COUNCIL MEETING EVER AND THIS IS SUCH A GREAT CAUSE.
FROM MY HEART, I SAY THAT AS SOMEONE THAT LOVES THIS TOWN MORE THAN I COULD EVEN EXPRESS I FOUGHT TO COME BACK HERE.
I FOUGHT TO MOVE BACK HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE HERE AND I WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT.
WHEN SOME OF YOU WERE CAMPAIGNING, I WAS OUT THERE BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT, NOT BECAUSE OF ANY OTHER REASON THAN THAT.
TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER OUT OF THE SPACE OF LOVE, TRUST, AND COMMUNITY.
HE SUPPORTED THE FAMILIES [NOISE] IF SOMEBODY WAS DOING SOMETHING WRONG, HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY YELL AT YOU AND SAY YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
HE'S EXPLAINED MORE WHY YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT, AND WHAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THAT IS THE POWER OF EXAMPLE FOR ME.
IT JUST DEFINES WHAT THIS TOWN IS AND WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AND WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
BACK IN THE DAY, WE GOT A LITTLE MORE LENIENCY THAN IT IS TODAY.
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YOU CAN'T GET AWAY WITH THE STUFF THAT YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO [LAUGHTER] ANYWAY, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE AND SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AND I'M GOING TO HOLD MY FRIEND'S HAND [APPLAUSE]>> HI MY NAME IS ELLONI WELLBERG, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN JUPITER ACTUALLY ST. MARY'S 1962.
CHEAPO SAVED MY LIFE AT TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS OLD.
BUT THROUGHOUT MY GROWING UP IN JUPITER, GROWING UP, HE WAS ALWAYS THERE HOLDING MY HAND.
HE WAS LIKE A SECOND DAD TO ALL OF US.
THIS MEANS A LOT TO ME AND THIS TOWN MEANS A LOT TO ME.
MY DAD WAS THE FIRST DIVE TEAM IN JUPITER, DIVING DOLPHINS.
NOW, OF COURSE, MY BROTHER-IN-LAW IS WHAT SQUARE GROUPER AND WE'RE STILL A PART OF JUPITER.
THIS IS ALWAYS BE MY HOMETOWN.
WE STILL HAVE PROPERTY IN JUPITER FARMS AND MY HEART IS ALWAYS HERE.
I REALLY BELIEVE CHIEF MAYO DESERVES THIS HONOR.
IF JUPITER CAN BE AN EXAMPLE FOR BUILDING HISTORY AND KEEPING OUR HISTORY INSTEAD THE REST OF THE COUNTRY DESTROYING IT.
IF WE COULD JUST BUILD AND KEEP OUR HISTORY GOING, THAT ALL I ASK. IT'S ALL I'M SAYING [APPLAUSE]
>> NEXT IS GOING TO BE DAVID FARMER AND WAYNE POSNER.
>> COUNCIL, MAYOR. WELL, I WANT TO START OUT REAL SIMPLE.
ON MAY 5TH, 1966, GLYNN MAYO SAVED MY LIFE.
I'M STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE OF A OFFICER THAT HEARD MY MOTHER CALLING FOR AN AMBULANCE TO COME UP TO JUPITER FROM WEST PALM.
GLYNN RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL, MY MOM IN THE CAR.
WHAT A RIDE FROM THERE TO DOC ROGAN'S AND TEQUESTAS.
HE GETS THERE AND DOC ROGAN IS LIKE I FORGOT THE KEYS, GLYNN HOLDS ME IN HIS ARMS. HE SAID THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
HE KICKED THE DOOR OFF THE HINGES, LAID ME ON THE TABLE, AND I STARTED TO FADE FROM THERE ON.
BUT MY MOM SAID WHAT A RIDE AND MY DAD SAID WHAT A RIDE FROM THERE TO ST. MARY'S HOSPITAL WITH GLYNN MAYO. HE SAVED MY LIFE.
FAST-FORWARD, I GET OUT OF THE HOSPITAL 24 DAYS LATER AND WE GO TO SUNDAY SCHOOL AND I TALK TO MR. RUDE WAS A PREACHER AND I SAID, WE WERE STUDYING ABOUT WHO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT YOUR FAMILY AND LORD NUMBER 1? HE'S LIKE, YEAH. I SAID, CAN I PUT SOMEONE ELSE? HE'S, YEAH. FAMILY? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I SAID, WELL, THERE'S A GUY THAT'S MY HERO.
HE SAID, YOUR A HERO? AND I SAID, YEAH, GLYNN MAYO AND HE STILL IS TODAY.
I'VE GOT A GRANDDAUGHTER, SHE IS A SECOND LIEUTENANT IN ARMY RANGER, FIRST FEMALE FROM NORTH GEORGIA.
I'M RETIRED FROM DELTA AIRLINES 31 YEARS.
BORN AND RAISED HERE IN JUPITER.
MY DAD WAS BORN AND RAISED, MOVED FROM THE KEYS TO JUPITER IN THE '50S AND THE FIRST GUY HE MET WAS GLYNN MAYO.
BUT I'M HERE TODAY BEFORE YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL TO TELL YOU MY HERO DESERVE IT [APPLAUSE]
>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
EVERYBODY DID SUCH AN AMAZING JOB.
BRAD'S DAD WHO'S RIGHT HERE BUSTED HIM A FEW TIMES [LAUGHTER] DID YOU SLEEP IN THE JAIL A COUPLE OF TIMES?
>> THAT WAS YOUR BROTHER [LAUGHTER] AND SWAM WITH THE DOLPHINS AS WELL.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE REAL JUPITER STORY HERE.
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WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT.WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THESE PEOPLE.
THESE PEOPLE FOUGHT HARD TO GET WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.
THE GENTLEMAN JUST LEFT, IF IT WASN'T FOR BRAD'S DAD, HE WOULDN'T HAVE A GREAT LIFE THAT HE HAD.
I KNOW A LOT OF OFFICERS DO A LOT OF WORK HERE AND THEY'RE ALL GREAT OFFICERS.
I MET MOST OF THEM WHEN I WAS COUNCIL.
I SPENT SEVEN YEARS IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
I DON'T THINK I MET A SINGLE ONE THAT I DIDN'T LIKE, EVERY SINGLE OFFICER [LAUGHTER] IT'S NOT ABOUT THE OFFICER HIMSELF, IT'S ABOUT THE HISTORY AND ABOUT WHAT JUPITER IS REALLY ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IF IT'S THE FIRST OR THE SECOND, WE ALL KNOW FROM THE HISTORY HE WAS THE FIRST THAT CREATED THE DEPARTMENT.
HE'S THE FIRST THAT ACTUALLY BROUGHT MORE OFFICERS IN.
HE'S THE FIRST THAT I KNOW OF THAT CAPTURED A SERIAL KILLER FROM CALIFORNIA.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT.
I LIVED ON TOWN HALL AVENUE FOR 16 YEARS.
I MET BRAD, WE BECAME CLOSE FRIENDS.
HE ACTUALLY HELPED ME SELL MY HOUSE AS A REALTOR.
WE SAW VIDEOS, I SAW PICTURES, WE DID INTERVIEWS.
I BROUGHT TOGETHER A GROUP OF FILMMAKERS TO MAKE A FILM ABOUT HIS DAD.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, BRAD WASN'T REAL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT HE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE IMPORTANT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA OR THIS YEAR, OTHER THAN TO PUT GLYNN MAYO ON THAT BUILDING, HE CREATED WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IN THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY DISRESPECT FOR ALL THE OTHER OFFICERS AND TWO OF THEM GAVE THEIR LIVES THAT I'M AWARE OF, WHICH IS AN AMAZING THING.
BUT GLYNN MAYO, HE WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR ALL THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THIS TOWN.
I APPRECIATE IF THE TOWN AND THE COUNCIL HERE CAN MAKE PROPER DECISION TONIGHT AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
>> NEXT IS CRAIG MALLORY, FOLLOWED BY BRETT LEONE.
>> CRAIG MALLORY 230 BLOCK ISLES LANE IN JUPITER.
I ALMOST WITHDREW MY REQUEST TO TALK BECAUSE I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO AT ALL WITH GLYNN MALLORY, GRADBALE, OR ANY OF THE STORIES THAT WE'VE HEARD, THIS IS PHENOMENAL.
ONE IS WE DON'T NAME BUILDINGS IN JUPITER FOR PEOPLE.
WE NAMED PARKS, WE NAME ROADWAYS, WE NAME ISLANDS.
BUT WE'D NEVER NAMED A BUILDING FOR A PERSON.
WE SET A PRECEDENT IF WE START THAT.
I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THAT'S THE RIGHT PRECEDENT IS SET.
THAT SAID, THE OTHER THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE FIVE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED.
NONE OF THOSE THAT I CAN READ WILL CAPTURE THE HISTORY THAT WE JUST HEARD IN THIS COUNCIL MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OPTION PROVIDED THAT CAPTURES THAT HISTORY.
LOXAHATCHEE LAMENTED THAT THE BOOK THAT YOU REFERENCED IF ENGLAND IS A PHENOMENON THAT I READ THAT TWICE.
MAYBE A COPY OF THAT BELONGS IN THE JUPITER HEADQUARTER, THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PHENOMENAL STORIES IN THERE.
I WAS ALSO DISAPPOINTED IN THE LACK OF SOME OF THESE STORIES ON THE JUPITER.
THERE'S A HISTORY SECTION TO THE WEBSITE, THE TOWN OF JUPITER WEBSITE.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THESE STORIES ON THAT WEBSITE AND THERE SHOULD BE.
I THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE CAPTURING SOME OF THIS HISTORY OF JUPITER, INCLUDING WHAT THE EFFORT THAT YOU WENT THROUGH TO FIND TOWN COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM [LAUGHTER] 100 YEARS AGO.
THAT'S AN INDICATION THAT THE REST OF YOU HOW IMPORTANT THESE COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES ARE.
I AM FULLY IN FAVOR OF OPTIONS 3 AND 4, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ADDED TO CAPTURE THE HISTORY THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT. [NOISE] THANK YOU.
>> MAYO, COUNCIL, TIME MANAGER, AGAIN FOR THE RECORD WROTE LEONI ABENGOA.
NO DISRESPECT BUT SOME OF US THINK CHIEF MAYO WAS BEING THE FIRST POLICE CHIEF SO WHY CAN'T HE BE THE FIRST PERSON TO HAVE A BUILDING NAMED AFTER HIM.
[APPLAUSE] PRESIDENTS FOR SOMEONE WHO REALLY CHANGED THE HISTORY OF THIS TOWN AND WORK TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE, I THINK TONIGHT, MOST OF YOU EXCEPT FOR COUNCILOR MAY HAVEN'T BEEN IN JUPITER AS LONG AS EVERYONE SITTING BEHIND ME, I HAVEN'T BEEN.
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I THINK TONIGHT IS A REALLY GREAT HISTORY LESSON FOR EVERYBODY.MORE OF THESE STORIES NEED TO BE TOLD.
MORE OF THESE PIONEERS NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
MORE OF THESE HEROES NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED IN THIS TOWN.
ALONG THE LINES THAT THE PROJECT OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, ALONG THE SAME LINES AS HONORING CHIEF MAYO TO NAME THE BUILDING YOU'RE HONORING HEROES WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES AND SERVE TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF THE TOWN AND THERE'S A LOT OF PIONEER FAMILIES GROWING UP HERE THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT.
YOU HEAR ABOUT THE ROOTS, YOU HEAR ABOUT THE HEPBURNS, YOU HEAR ABOUT THE DO BOYS AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE EITHER HAVE STREETS, PARKS, BUILDINGS, ALL THAT NAMED AFTER THEM.
THE MAYO FAMILY DESERVES THAT SAME RECOGNITION.
THE STATE OF FLORIDA SAW THAT IN NAMING A PORTION OF A1A AFTER CHIEF MAYO, BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID TO MAKE THAT BETTER.
CHIEF MAYO ALSO LOBBIED ON HIS OWN DIME TO GET THAT ROADWAY MADE SAFER AND LOBBY THE STATE TO PUT THE BRIDGE THAT WE KNOW IS INDIANTOWN ROAD BRIDGE OVER TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN OF JUPITER.
SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE GREAT OPTIONS BUT HONESTLY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WALK INTO A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ENJOY THAT COMMUNITY ROOM.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DRIVE BY THOSE SIGNS WHEREVER YOU GO ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND YOU SEE IT NAMED AFTER SOMEBODY.
IT DOESN'T TELL YOU THAT THE PEOPLE WHO STOOD BEHIND THAT PERSON.
GROWING UP HERE, I GREW UP WITH HIS GRANDSON TAYLOR.
DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE MAYO FAMILY.
AS I GOT OLDER, SERVED ON HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD WITH BRAD, WE REALLY GOT TO KNOW BRAD AND WHEN MY DAD PASSED AWAY, ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT I WAS EVER TOLD IS PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T KNOW HIM, KNEW HE WAS A GREAT MAN BECAUSE OF THE PERSON I BECAME AND I THINK THE SAME COULD BE SAID FOR THE MAYO FAMILY [BACKGROUND] AND ALL THE MEN OF THAT FAMILY AS WELL.
IF WE CAN NAME ISLANDS AFTER FORMER MAYORS, ROADS AND OTHER THINGS AFTER OTHER PEOPLE, I THINK THAT YOU ALL SHOULD TAKE THE ACTION TONIGHT AND NAME THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AFTER CHIEF GLYNN.
>> WE HAVE BRAD MAYO FOLLOWED BY TERRY GROOMS. [NOISE]
>> THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE TOUGH FOR ME GUYS.
GOOD SEEING ALL OF YOU MAYOR COUNCILMEN.
LOT WAS SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN IMPROVE ON THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF MY DAD WAS HERE, HE TELL YOU NOT TO NAME ANY AFTER HIM, THAT I COULD TELL YOU.
[LAUGHTER] HE WOULDN'T BE AGAINST IT.
I'VE GOT SOME NOTES HERE, THINGS GOT HIT ON ALL OVER THE PLACE BUT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE INDIANTOWN ROAD BRIDGE GOT BUILD WAS THERE WAS A SERIAL KILLER THAT KILLED LADY THERE THAT HE HAD KIDNAPPED DOWN IN LAUDERDALE AFTER HE HAD KILLED EIGHT OTHER PEOPLE.
HIS GOAL WAS TO KILL 22 TOTAL.
MY DAD, MY UNCLE FOUND THAT BROKE DOWN CAR AND THE DEAD BODY ON ANOTHER CALL AND WAS ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT GUIDE THE NEXT MORNING AFTER AN ALL-NIGHT SEARCH FOR HIM AND PUT HIM IN JAIL SO HE GOT SHORTED OUT OF THE REST OF THE 22 PEOPLE THAT HE KILLED.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CATALYSTS FOR BUILDING THE BRIDGE OVER TO YOU AS ONE.
INDIANTOWN ROAD QUIT ABOUT WHAT WE NOW KNOW AS 60 MINUTES PHOTO.
LAY LONNIE, HER LIFE WAS SAVED WHEN SHE HAD A LITTLE, I THINK EPILEPTIC FIT AND SWALLOWED HER TONGUE.
>> YEAH. WE GAVE HER MOUTH TO MOUTH AND BROADER BACK BASICALLY SO WE COULD BORE YOU GUYS ALL NIGHT WITH STORIES LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, NOT THAT THAT'S BORING AT ALL BUT [LAUGHTER] SORRY.
GIVE MY BUCK KICKED OUT IN THE PARKING LOT BUT I REMEMBER PEOPLE CAME TO OUR HOUSE ALL THE TIME.
IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW UP.
THERE WAS A BLACK MAN WHO SHOWED UP OUR HOUSE TONIGHT AS FRIEND DROPPED HIM OFF HIS WIFE HAD CUT THEM, HAD TO TELL WITH A BUTTER KNIFE, TOOK EVERY TILE IN HOUSE AND MY MOM HAD RAPING THAT GUY OUT UNTIL MY DAD COULD GET THEIR LOAD THEM INTO POLICE CAR AND TAKE THEM DOWN TO ST. MARY'S.
WE DIDN'T HAVE I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAD US ONE THEN I THINK WE DID BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE I-95 IN THE TURNPIKE TO RUN DOWN TO ST. MARY'S LIKE WE DO NOW.
JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES TO PICK OUT HERE BECAUSE THEY GOT HEAD-ON, BUT I REMEMBER BEING WITH MY DAD AND HIM HANGING THE LIGHT AT LOXAHATCHEE AND INDIANTOWN ROAD.
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BORROW LIGHT FROM HIM AND HEYMAN REY, JAMES WOODWARD, I MEAN, PHYSICALLY HONDA LIGHT BACK THEN HE'S A POLICE CHIEF.I MEAN, THAT'S NOT THE THINGS THAT CHIEF ENGLISH WOULD BE DOING NOWADAYS.
[LAUGHTER] WHEN HIS BEST FRIEND TOOK HIS LIFE, SHOT HIMSELF IN HIS BED, MY DAD HAD TO GO AND PHOTOGRAPH THE SCENE AND INVESTIGATE THIS SCENE AND TAKE CARE OF HIS FRIENDS BODY.
WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENED, NINE TIMES OUT OF 10 WITH A TRAUMATIC STUFF HAPPENED, MY DAD WAS THE ONE DEALING WITH IT AND IT WAS A FRIEND, SOMEBODY'S KID, SOMEBODY'S SISTER AND BROTHER.
IT WAS TOUGH. ONE REAL QUICK THING AND I'LL WRAP IT UP.
I SAW THOSE EFFECTS TAKE EFFECT ON HIM OVER THE YEARS.
HE WOULD SIT AT THE DINNER TABLE WOULD BE OFF IN THE DISTANCE AFTER SEEING STUFF LIKE THAT, AND IT WOULD TAKE ITS TALL.
HE WOULD BE SOMEWHERE ELSE AT DINNER BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE HAD TO DEAL WITH IT.
[NOISE] SOME OF THE OFFICERS DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH NOW ARE SOME OF THE CHIEFS DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT ALL BUT SOME OF THE OFFICERS DEAL WITH THAT ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS CONSIDER THIS REAL HARD, A NICE ROOM IN THERE HISTORICAL ROOM IN THERE WITH A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT MY DAD, THE HISTORY OF JUPITER PD AND BRUCE ST. LAURENT, THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO HONOR THOSE PEOPLE AND HAVE A BUILDING NAMED AFTER MY FATHER.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT COMPROMISE.
>> I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT CHIEF MAYO.
I PRE-RECORDED MY STATEMENTS SO HOPEFULLY THIS WORKS.
>> TO NAME THE NEW POLICE BUILDING AFTER CHIEF GLYNN MAYO.
THIS IS ABOUT THE MEASURE OF A MAN.
GLYNN MAYO WAS JUST 29 YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS ASKED TO TAKE THE HELM AND I WILL QUOTE THE FLORIDA STATE STATUE, MOVED HIS ONE MAN POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH LATER BECAME THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
HE SPENT NEARLY HALF OF HIS LIFE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
NEARLY HALF OF HIS LIFE SERVING THIS TOWN, FIRST AS CONSTABLE AND THEN AS OUR LONGEST SERVING CHIEF.
THIS IS ABOUT A MAN THAT 30 YEARS AFTER HIS RETIREMENT STILL LOOMS LARGE IN THE HEART AND MEMORIES OF THOSE OF US WHO LIVED AND WORKED IN THIS TOWN UNDER HIS WATCH.
BY NOW, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED SOME EMAILS TESTIFYING TO THE MAN THAT HE WAS.
I SENT SO MANY EMAILS BECAUSE I WANTED YOU ALL TO COME TO KNOW THE MAN THAT I KNEW AND WHY HE DESERVES THIS HONOR.
GLYNN MAYO IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO'S PROMINENT GARNERS MENTIONED IN THE PAGES OF A WRITTEN HISTORY OF JUPITER.
HIS CONTRIBUTIONS NOT ONLY TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT THE TOWN ITSELF TICK ALL THE BOXES GENERALLY REQUIRED FOR AN HONOR OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
WHY THIS BUILDING, THIS $18 MILLION STATE-OF-THE-ART HURRICANE HARDENED POLICE AND DATA CENTER? BECAUSE IT RISES UP TO MEET THE MAN AND HONORS THE HARD WORK IT TOOK TO BUILD THE DEPARTMENT FROM THE HUMBLE BEGINNINGS OF A ONE MAN DEPARTMENT, LAYING THE FOUNDATION THAT ENABLED THE DEPARTMENT TO GROW AND BECOME WHAT WE KNOW TODAY.
IT HONORS HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TOWN AND HONORS THE BUILDING BY GIVING AN IDENTITY AND IT HONORS THOSE WHO SERVE TODAY BY HAVING A CONNECTION TO THE DEPARTMENT'S HISTORY AND THE MAN WHO STARTED IT ALL.
ALL THE OTHER SUGGESTED OPTIONS ARE NOT A FITTING TRIBUTE TO HIS LEGACY.
>> WELL, THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TONIGHT TO SHARE YOUR STORY, AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT CHIEF GLYNN MAYO.
WE ALSO RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS FROM VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
I CAME TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS GREW UP COUPLE OF DECADES, WE'RE ON THE SAME STREET.
WHEREVER THAT I WANTED TO JUST GIVE EACH OF US UP HERE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENTS, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE OPTIONS BEFORE US, WHICH TAKE NOTES BY THE WAY, EVERYBODY THAT SPEAKS LEAVES SOMETHING THAT TOUCHES ME, TOUCHING EVERY ONE OF US, BUT I USUALLY MAKE NOTES ABOUT THAT.
FIRST OF ALL KATHY HAD MENTIONED WHY IS IT IMPOSED OPPOSED THE PERCEPTION THAT ANYTHING'S OPPOSED HERE.
I THINK THAT WE ALL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING CORRECTLY NOT JUST CHIEF GLYNN MAYO BUT ALL OF THE HEROES IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OBSERVED THROUGHOUT HISTORY IN THIS TOWN.
THERE'S BEEN HUNDREDS OF POLICE OFFICERS AS WAS MENTIONED IN TODAY,
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HAPPENS TO BE THE TOWN HAD A MEMORIAL, POLICEMEN MEMORIAL TO GIVE TRIBUTE TO TWO MEMBERS OF CHEAPER PD WHO EFFECTIVELY DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND PROTECTING ITS RESIDENTS.IN A CEREMONY ALSO GAVE TRIBUTE WAS AT 24,000 PLACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES, AND NOT JUST GIVEN YOUR LIFE, BUT EVERY POLICE OFFICER THAT HAS WORKED FOR THIS TOWN AND STILL WORK FOR THIS TOWN, PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THEY MAY RETIRE WITHOUT HAVING SUFFERED AN INJURY, BUT EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY CAME TO WORK AND HE COULD HAVE HAPPEN TO HAVE MEMORIES OF THE TWO POLICE MEMBERS THAT DIED IN LINE OF DUTY BECAUSE IT HAPPENED IN A WHILE.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN.
I THINK WE'RE BLESSED THAT WE'VE HAD RELATIVELY LONG TENURED POLICE CHIEFS, THREE OF WHOM, IN MY OPINION, ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT SOMEONE SHARED WITH ME WHEN WE BOUGHT GENERATION LEADERSHIP DRIVEN CHANGES TO JUPITER PD, SO IT'S HARD TO DISTINGUISH WHEN YOU LOOK OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, WHO THEIR NAME, THEIR SURNAME THAT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
I APPROACHED THIS FIRST OF ALL, I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE IN NAMING BUILDINGS FOR PEOPLE.
THAT WAS A POLICY THAT WE'VE HAD BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE LONG OVERDUE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE GIVEN RECOGNITION, SO SOME OF THE ITEMS, RISKS, AND HIS OPTIONS, I HAD ASKED YOU DON'T WANT A POLICE CHIEF TO EXPLORE THEM FURTHER, UNDERSTAND FURTHER, AND PUT THEM FOURTH YEAR.
I'M JUST RUN THROUGH THEM BEYOND THE FIRST ONE THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR.
OPTION 2 WAS TO CONSIDER A MONUMENT.
I DO THINK THAT THE NAMING OF WHEN MALE HIGHWAY STILL IS LACKING SOME HISTORY.
I WORKED FOR FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT FOR 30 YEARS.
I WOULD GO TO THE PALM BEACH THE BUILDING IN GENERAL BEACH.
A FEW YEARS AGO THEIR ROYAL WAS PLACED AT THE CORNER OF DONALD ROSS AND NELSON WILSON.
I GOT OUT AND LOOKED AT MEMORIAL AND IT GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY ON HOW THOSE ROADS GOT NAMED.
WHAT THEY GOT NAMED FOR TWO INDIVIDUALS, DONALD ROSS AND NELSON WILSON.
BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY SERVING OUR COUNTRY IN THE ARMED FORCES SO IN MY MIND, AND I DON'T HAVE THIS THOUGHT OUT, BUT I SHARED THAT WITH OUR CHIEF AND SAID, IN ORDER TO HELP PRESERVE THE TRUE MEMORY, WE OUGHT TO BE IN ENHANCING THAT SIGNAGE, PUT IN SOME TYPE OF MONUMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT.
I ASKED ABOUT, DO WE HAVE A DISPLAY RECOGNIZING ALL PAST AND FUTURE POLICE CHIEFS? I DON'T OFTEN GET IN THE POLICE BUILDING.
WELL, I HAD LEARNED THAT HAD BEEN DONE IN THE PAST IT DOESN'T EXIST AS AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME AND I THINK IT OUGHT TO.
I'VE SHARED THAT. NOBODY GIVE YOU A CHANCE CHIEF TO SPEAK.
I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT.
PEOPLE MAY NOT REALIZE THIS, BUT I KNOW ABOUT THIS, BUT THE COUNCIL DID IN THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE APPROVED FUNDING FOR POLICE MEMORIAL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT MEMORIAL, WHICH WE'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT, BUT IS INTENDED TO BE CONSTRUCTED COINCIDENT WITH THE TIMING FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE TOWN HALL BUILDING.
[NOISE] I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S OVERDUE.
WE GOT A VETERANS MEMORIAL WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICE MEMORIAL, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A POLICE MEMORIAL.
I ASKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMUNITY ROOM AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD BE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE LIKE WE DID WITH RUSSIA TO ESCAPE, PERHAPS TO CALL THAT, THAT WAS OPTION 4, WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE NAMED, WHATEVER.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING EVERYTHING ON A TABLE IN THE FORM OF RECOGNITION.
I DID LEARN IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT QUITE FRANKLY HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON
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THE PAST CHIEFS THAT HAVE SERVED AND IN FACT HAD SOME PAST IN INTEND TO EXPAND UPON IF WE HAD A WALL OF HONOR RECOGNIZING A DIFFERENT POLICE CHIEFS THAT HAVE SERVED OUR COMMUNITY, THAT THERE'D BE SOME PLAQUE CAPTURING THE ESSENCE OF SIMILAR THINGS THEY ACCOMPLISHED UNDER THEIR LEADERSHIP.AROUND TODAY SOME OF US KNEW THIS.
I WAS REMINDED ABOUT IT THAT WHEN ST.
LAURENT WAS TRAGICALLY KILLED EFFECTIVELY IN THE LINE OF DUTY, ALTHOUGH HE DIDN'T GET ESCORTED TO THE HOSPITAL AND THAT BUT I CALL IT EVEN KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THIS DAY HAS PRESERVED THE WINDSHIELD ON HIS MOTORCYCLE.
IT'S SITTING IN SOMEBODY'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW BEING PRESERVED.
BUT I THINK THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS TODAY AT THE SERVICE THAT WE WANT TO PUT IT IN A SUBTYPE OF A PROMINENT PLACE [NOISE] THAT WE RECOGNIZE AND NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF AND WE WOULD IN THAT PLACE WHEREVER THAT MIGHT BE, WE COULD DISPLAY THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING A SPECIAL WAY, THOSE THAT HAD GIVEN THEIR LIVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
THEN THAT WOULD PERPETUATE, GOD FORBID, BUT IF IN THE FUTURE WERE LOSE ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER.
NOW WE'VE CREATED [NOISE] RECOGNITION APPROACH WE WOULD USE IN OUR TOWN TO NEVER FORGET THOSE THAT HAD SERVED.
I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE, BUT I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE POLICE CHIEF DID NOT BUY HIMSELF COME UP WITH THE OTHER OPTIONS, NOT THAT HE MIGHT NOT HAVE, BUT I HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID ALL THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING TO RECOGNIZE THOSE AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAD SERVED HIS COMMUNITY WELL AND THIS PROMPTS US TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS A COUNCIL.
WITH THAT, I'LL ASK WHO MIGHT WANT TO GO NEXT.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR KURETSKI, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD BEEN PUSHING FOR.
THE REQUEST TO NAME THE BUILDING AFTER GLYNN MAYO WAS ACTUALLY FIRST MADE IN 2019.
IT HAS TAKEN FOUR YEARS FOR THIS REQUEST TO FINALLY COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO WAS REALLY THE FIRST CHIEF AND THIS AND THAT.
TO ME, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE POINT.
THE POINT IS THAT THE GLYNN MAYO REALLY CREATED THE DEPARTMENT.
HE REALLY WAS THE FIRST ONE TO GET THE DEPARTMENT STARTED AND TO GET IT ON A TRAJECTORY OF WHERE IT WAS TODAY.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT HE ALSO, THROUGH HIS ACTIONS, REALLY CREATED THE FABRIC OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THE WAY HE INTERACT WITH EVERYBODY, THE WAY HE CARED ABOUT EVERYBODY REALLY SET THE STAGE FOR THE WAY THIS COMMUNITY INTERACTS [NOISE] TODAY.
WE USED TO JOKE ABOUT AND JUPITER, IS TWO DEGREES OF SEPARATION BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS EVERYBODY ELSE.
PART OF THAT WAS STARTED FROM GLYNN MAYO IN THE WAY HE INTERACTED WITH EVERYONE.
I THINK THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HISTORY HERE AND HOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE IT.
HISTORY IS NOT JUST BUILDINGS AND IT'S NOT JUST ARTIFACTS IT'S PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT WHEN MAYO SHOWS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO REMEMBER AND HONOR THE PEOPLE WHO GAVE SO MUCH FOR THIS TOWN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE TO TRY TO CATEGORIZE THIS SIMPLY AS WHO'S ON FIRST.
THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY RESONATES WITH ME [NOISE] IS THAT WE HAVE HERE AN AUDIENCE OF LOCALS.
TO ME, WHEN THE LOCALS COME OUT AND ASK FOR SOMETHING, WE NEED TO TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.
[APPLAUSE] MY JOB IS TO REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS AND WHEN THE LOCALS COME OUT, THE PEOPLE WHO GIVE THIS TOWN ITS HEART AND SOUL, WHEN THEY COME OUT AND THEY ASK FOR SOMETHING ABSENT A REALLY GOOD REASON,
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WE NEED TO LISTEN.WE NEED TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND WE SHOULD GRANT THE REQUEST.
I FIND ALL OF THESE OTHER OPTIONS TO BE NOT SUITABLE TO HONOR SOMEONE OF THE NATURE AND STATURE OF GLYNN MAYO.
[APPLAUSE] I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO QUIBBLE.
I THINK WE SHOULD HONOR GLYNN MAYO FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE'S DONE.
THERE MAY BE OTHER MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS COMING UP IN THE FUTURE, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT AT THAT TIME, IF THERE'S SOMEONE WHO RISES TO THE LEVEL OF GLYNN MAYO, BUT SHAME ON US.
IF WE DON'T HONOR SOMEONE WHO GAVE SO MUCH TO THIS TOWN, AND IF WE DON'T HONOR THE REQUEST FROM THE LOCALS.
[APPLAUSE] NOW THESE PEOPLE PUT US IN THESE SEATS AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO COME OUT AND VOTE.
I KNOW THEY DO ALL THE TIME, SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS ANYMORE.
OBVIOUSLY, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BUT I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.
I GREW UP WITH THE MAYO FAMILY, AUSTIN, ALYSA, TAYLOR, WENT TO SCHOOL WITH ALL THOSE GUYS.
IT'S PRETTY SPECIAL TO BE ABLE TO GROW UP WITH THAT FAMILY AND KNOW THE HISTORY AND HEAR THE STORIES FROM THEM.
YEAH I'LL BE DEFINITELY SUPPORTING NAMING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING AFTER CHIEF GLYNN MAYO AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO EXPLORE THE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS THAT ARE ON THE LIST TO HONOR OUR FALLEN OFFICERS.
I KNOW WE HAVE THE MEMORIAL COMING UP TO HONOR OUR FORMER POLICE CHIEFS AS WELL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT AND CREATE A BETTER PROGRAM TO HONOR, NOT JUST THE OFFICERS WHO HAVE FALLEN, BUT THE ONES WHO HAVE SERVED BEFORE RETIRED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> I'M THE LEAST QUALIFIED PERSON TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
I'M ONE OF THE NEWER MEMBERS AND THE NEW MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
IF MY DAUGHTERS WERE OLDER, I WOULD WANT THEM HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE JUPITER LOCALS AND NATIVES.
I WANT THEM TO HEAR EVERY STORY AND I'VE LOVED ALL OF THESE STORIES.
I MADE A LIST. I LIKE MARK BRESSLER BUT THEN PEOPLE KEPT BEATING IT SO I DIDN'T KNOW.
I HAD ALL THESE E-MAILS THAT I REALLY LOVED.
WHEN WE FIRST GOT ELECTED, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WANTING POSITIVE PARTICIPATION.
USUALLY AN EMPTY ROOM, THEY WOULD SAY, WHEN NO ONE COMES, THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
I ALWAYS WANTED POSITIVE PARTICIPATION AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT THIS IS TONIGHT AND I'VE REALLY LOVED WHAT I'VE HEARD AND I'VE LOVED THIS COMMUNITY AND WHAT IT DOES.
I'M TAKING NOTES, I WROTE NOTES AS WELL.
MY UNDERSTAND WHAT TERRY DID AND I'VE SEEN OTHERS DO IT.
I WANT TO, WITH FRESH EYES INTRODUCE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND JUST SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH IT AND NONE OF IT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT, NOT EVEN BY THE CHIEF.
THIS IS JUST FROM OUR EYES, WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
JUPITER DOESN'T HAVE ANY NAMED BUILDINGS AND THAT IS A POLICY THAT WE HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO CHANGE, BUT IT'S COMPLICATED.
LET ME GO THROUGH IT. HELP ME OUT GUYS.
I THINK WHAT THAT DOES AND WHAT IT HAS DONE AND WHAT I'VE SEEN EVIDENCE OF IS IT DOES GENERATE INTERESTS AND I MEAN THE OTHER BUILDINGS, AND I HAVE HEARD THAT.
THIS CAN BE A DIFFICULT THING.
WE DON'T HAVE MANY BUILDINGS, WE DO HAVE MANY PARKS.
PARKS AREN'T INHABITED BUILDINGS ARE OUR POLICY TALKS ABOUT, AND WE HAVE AN OLD POLICY AND WE CAN CHANGE THAT POLICY.
WE CAN LOOK AT THAT POLICY AGAIN, BUT THE POLICY TALKS ABOUT GOING TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT GOING TO THE INHABITANTS OF THE BUILDING, TO THE INHABITANTS, SHOULD WE EVER NAME A FACILITY OR BUILDING.
IT'S HARD AND I'D HAVE TO PULL UP THE POLICY.
BUT YOU IF THERE WERE EVER TO BE A BUILDING NAMED, YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INHABITANTS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.
AND IN TALKING TO A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS, I'VE FOUND THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH THE NAMING OF THE BUILDING,
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AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT INFORMATION.THEY COME TO ME IN CONFIDENCE, AND WHAT DO I DO WITH THAT INFORMATION? ALL POLICE OFFICERS, THERE WAS A POINT WHERE I SAID MY FATHER WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT.
I THINK THE CULTURE OF POLICE OFFICERS IT'S SO TEAM-BASED, THE WORK THAT THEY DO, IT'S NOT LIKE OURS, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT AND SO THE TEAM IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE CULTURE OF THE POLICE.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY NOT SINGLE OUT ANY ONE PERSON, BUT THEY FOCUS ON THE COLLECTIVE EFFORT AND SPIRIT OF WHAT THEY'RE APART OF.
ADDITIONALLY, I'LL SAY THERE IS GLYNN MAYO HIGHWAY AND I AGREE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS SUFFICIENT.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EYEBALLS ON IT ALL THE TIME. YOU DRIVE BY IT.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WONDER WHY IT WAS NAMED THAT.
THE PALM BEACH POST HAS TALKED ABOUT IT.
I'VE SEEN BLOGS TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK PEOPLE GOOGLE IT WHEN THEY SEE IT, BUT WE DON'T MAKE IT EASY, AND SO WE SHOULD DO MORE THERE.
BUT YOU THINK ABOUT ANOTHER PRECEDENT AND THAT IS THAT THERE IS NO ONE IN THE TOWN RECOGNIZED MORE THAN ONCE OR MORE THAN ONE ITEM.
WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE OTHER FAMILIES AND THE LOXAHATCHEE LAMENT ON THAT FIRST PAGE.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE FAMILIES WHO AREN'T RECOGNIZED AT ALL? SHOULD WE HAVE SOME RECOGNIZED MULTIPLE TIMES AND OTHERS NONE? IT'S A HARD QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
I JUST THINK IT BREAKS PRECEDENT IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.
SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, NO POLICE BUILDING IS NAMED, SO IT'S NOT JUST WITHIN THE TOWN AND TOWN BUILDINGS, IT'S ALSO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND SO YOU WONDER WHY AND YOU GO BACK TO THAT POLICE CULTURE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM OTHERS THAT HAVE COME TO ME.
A FEW WEEKS AGO WE NAMED A PARK AFTER A FORMER MAYOR.
IT WAS A SPECIFIC REQUEST BY A PREVIOUS MAYOR AND THERE'S A SENSE OF FAIRNESS.
I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY ITEMS THAT ARE NAMED AFTER HISTORICAL FIGURES.
A LOT OF THEM STILL LOOM LARGE TODAY CURRENTLY.
I DO WANT OUR HISTORY PRIORITIZED.
I HAVE PUSHED PRIVATELY FOR THE OLD TOWN HALL.
I THINK THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT IDEA RECOMMENDATION MADE BEFORE US.
WE DO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I THINK THERE'S SOME POETRY AND THE FACT THAT THE OLD TOWN HALL MIGHT BE RECOGNIZED AT THE TIME THE NEW TOWN HALL COMES ON, YOU NEVER KNOW.
I KNOW THAT WHATEVER WE DO AND WE NEED TO DO MORE TO RECOGNIZE OUR HISTORY AND CHIEF GLYNN MAYO'S LEGACY, BE IT THAT SIGN OR SOMETHING ELSE.
I WORRY ABOUT THE PARTS OF JUPITER'S HISTORY THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN PRESERVED.
THESE ARE LOCALS, THESE ARE NATIVES.
WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CENTER STREET, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AS A COUNCIL.
WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OLD TOWN HALL.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS BEFORE US THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AND THINK ABOUT COLLECTIVELY AS A TOWN AND HOW WE CAN PRESERVE THE HISTORY COLLECTIVELY.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE HEARD BY MANY PEOPLE TONIGHT AND IN THE PAST, IN PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PRIORITIZE, BUT HOW WE GO ABOUT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TOO.
WE HAVE TO GO ABOUT IT IN A WAY THAT'S FAIR AND THAT RECOGNIZES AS MANY HISTORICAL FIGURES AND IMPORTANT FIGURES AS POSSIBLE.
THIS IS THE COMPLICATION THAT COMES WITH NAMING ANYTHING.
WE JUST RECENTLY NAMED A PARK AND NOW A FEW WEEKS LATER, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS REQUEST AND THERE MAY BE FUTURE REQUESTS.
I'M STRUGGLING AND I'M LISTENING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS PERSPECTIVE FROM A FRESH SET OF EYES. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THIS IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT BECAUSE I WASN'T READY TO EVEN DISCUSS THIS.
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THEN WE'D NEVER DISCUSSIONS OF NAMING BUILDINGS AFTER PEOPLE IN TOWN OR WHATEVER, IT WAS LIKE WE JUST DON'T DO THAT HERE.BUT THERE'S REALLY NO SET POLICY ON IT.
COMING HERE TONIGHT TO VOTE ON THIS, IT'S LIKE, I THINK WE SHOULD KICK THIS DOWN THE ROAD AND DISCUSS WITH EACH OTHER DO WE WANT NAME BUILDINGS OR DON'T WE.
I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.
BUT THE PEOPLE SITTING OUT HERE TONIGHT AND THE PUPIL WHO CALLED ME AND SENT ALL THE EMAILS THESE ARE THE TRUE LOCALS OF THE TOWN.
[LAUGHTER] THEY HAVEN'T ALWAYS GOT THE FEAR END OF THE STICK WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON, DEVELOPMENT THINGS, THEIR TOWN CHANGED AND WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO PRESERVE HISTORY.
I WAS WALKING OUT THE DOOR TONIGHT TO COME TO THE MEETING I JUST RAN THIS BY MY WIFE, SHE'S VERY BRIGHT AND I LAID IT ON THE TABLE AND SAID I'M STILL, IT'S A POLICY DECISION AND I'M NOT READY TO DO IT.
SHE SAID, 'WHAT ARE THE REASONS NOT TO DO IT?" I SAID, "DID I PLAY THE MOUSE?" SHE SAYS, "THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
YOU HAVE NO REASON NOT TO." [APPLAUSE] MY WIFE DOESN'T CALL THE SHOTS BY THE WAY, BUT [LAUGHTER] SHE DOES.
BUT I WAS DRIVING HERE THINKING ABOUT IS LIKE WE WANT TO PRESERVE OUR HISTORY.
HE WAS ONE OF THE PIONEERS FOR THE TOWN.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF POLICE CHIEFS.
WE HAVE A GREAT ONE SITTING TO MY RIGHT, AND HE WAS CHIEF DURING THE TIME, [APPLAUSE] HOLD ON, HE WAS CHIEF DURING A PERIOD OF TRANSITION THAT BROUGHT US OUT OF BEING A LITTLE PRODUCT SOUTHERN TOWN TO MORPHING TO WHAT WE ARE NOW.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT WOULD NOT MAKE ME CONFIDENT OR UNSURE OF NAMING A BUILDING UP AND I'VE NEVER NAMED A BUILDING.
MY NAMES ARE ON THE DAMN BUILDING, WHAT THE HELL HAVE I DONE? I'M GOING TO SUPPORT NAMING THE BUILDING UP FOR FORMER CHIEF MAYOR.
>> IF WE DID THAT AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT OUR POLICY JUST TO CLEAN IT UP, JUST TO GOING FORWARD FOR FUTURE BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING THAT COMES ALONG.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THIS IS NOT PRECEDENT SENDING ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO GET IN LINE TO START NAMING BUILDINGS.
BUT THESE FOLKS HERE, I THINK VICE MAYOR SAID, THEY VOTE, THEY'RE ACTIVE, THEY'RE PASSIONATE.
THIS IS THEIR TOWN, THEY GREW UP HERE HEAR, THEIR PARENTS GREW UP HERE. I'M NEW HERE.
CAN I BE A LOCAL? I DON'T KNOW.
PROBABLY NOT. [LAUGHTER] BUT ANYWAY, IT'S ABOUT TIME THEY GET SOMETHING THERE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
>> TO ME, 90% OF LIFE IS SHOWING UP.
YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE LOUD, NOT LOUD, BUT YOU'RE PASSIONATE.
[LAUGHTER] THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE.
>> [LAUGHTER] IT WON'T BE LOCALS IF THEY WEREN'T LOUD.
>> I BELIEVE IN DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE.
>> ALONG WITH THAT THOUGH, CAN WE ALSO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO EXPLORE THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE LAID OUT TO HONOR THE FORMER CHIEFS, FORMER POLICE OFFICERS THAT SERVED THIS TOWN.
>> I WILL SAY ALSO A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HISTORY IS ON DISPLAY, THAT WE DON'T LOSE ALL OF THESE STORIES, THAT WE DON'T LOSE WHAT MADE GLYNN MAYOR SO DIFFERENT AND SO SPECIAL, THERE SHOULD BE A WAY THAT DOWN THE ROAD PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND LOOK AT THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHY THE BUILDING WAS NAMED AND WE DON'T FORGET.
>> THAT'S RIGHT SINCE THEY'RE -.
>> [LAUGHTER] TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION IN THE COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.
JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN WE MOVED TO THE BUILDING, IT WAS 2020, IT WAS COVID.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO AND PURCHASE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WISHED TO.
IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET, WE PUT MONIES ASIDE FOR THE CHIEF'S WALL, AS WELL AS PAINTING OF ALL THE COMMON AREAS BECAUSE, WHEN WE MOVED IN THERE WAS A LOT OF SCUFF SCRATCHES.
WE NEEDED TO PUT SOME CHAIR RAILS AND WHATNOT.
WE DID COMPLETE AND WE PUT A WORK GROUP TOGETHER OF SWORN AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES.
WE DID COMPLETE THE OFFICER DOWN MEMORIAL RECOGNIZING EMPLOYEES WHO DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY THAT IS IN THE MAIN LOBBY AND IT'S UP-TO-DATE.
THE COMMITTEE IS ALSO WORKING ON THE NEXT STEP AS THINGS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE WALLS IN THE CHIEF'S WALL.
WE DID NOT MOVE FORWARD ON THAT BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY IN THE PREVIOUS BUILDING, WE JUST HAD REGULAR 8 BY 10 PICTURES WITH THE DATES ON THAT, AND WE WANTED TO INCORPORATE SOMETHING MUCH LIKE THE YEARBOOK THE POLICE FARM HAS WHERE THERE'S A TIMELINE OF EVENTS THAT OCCURRED UNDER EACH CHIEF AND WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST THE CHIEFS ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT THE ORGANIZATIONS ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
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IT'S NOT THAT THEY WERE PARKED OR NEVER BEEN DONE OR HAVEN'T BEEN RECOGNIZED.>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I THINK YOU ALL HEARD THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE TO PROCEED ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] WAS THAT THE VOTE.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO, I THINK WE'VE MADE THE DECISION HERE.
>> THE AGENDA ITEM SAYS A CONSIDERATION TO NAME THE JUPITER DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS AFTER CHIEF GLYNN MAYOR, SO IT'S UP TO YOU.
>> MOTION TO NAME THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS AFTER CHIEF GLYNN MAYOR.
>> MOTION I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[10.Strategic Initiative update to the Municipal Complex masterplan and continued improvements.]
WE HAVE A ROUNDTABLE ITEM.>> [BACKGROUND] MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE THE ROUND TABLE.
>> COUNSELLOR, GET READY, WHO'S A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
>> WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE ROUND TABLE AND IT'S PENNY PAYNE. SHE'S GOING TO ASK.
>> DID YOU WANT TO GO FIRST BEFORE THE PRESENTATION. SURE.
>> I WON'T EVEN TAKE THREE MINUTES.
>> THIS MAY OR MAY NOT RELATE TO THIS AND I APOLOGIZE.
BUT WITH THE TOWN HALL AND WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS JUST HAD, ON BEHALF OF THE ART COMMITTEE IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR TOWNS HISTORIAN, WE WOULD LOVE TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF A PICTORIAL OR A HISTORICAL DISPLAY AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO OFFER OUR RESOURCES AS THE COMMITTEE SHOULD YOU ALL CHOOSE TO DO THAT.
>> MAYOR COUNCIL MIKE VALELLA, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW TOWN HALL PROJECT.
JOHN SICKLER AND I ARE GOING TO BE TALKING TO YOU TONIGHT LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION ON WHERE WE CONTINUE WITH IMPROVEMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN REGARDING THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, TO UPDATE AND REVISE THE MASTER PLAN AND CONTINUE WITH OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ON THE CAMPUS.
THIS IS THE 2022 AND 2023 STRATEGIC INITIATIVE WHICH THE ACTION PLAN ITEMS WERE TO DEVELOP AN APPROVAL PLAN FOR DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING TOWN HALL BUILDING, AND THE SECOND ACTION PLAN WAS TO EXPLORE A PLAN FOR AN EVENT SPACE ON THE VACANT DANIEL'S WAVE PROPERTY TO COMPLEMENT THE EXISTING INDOOR SPACE IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER, ALLOW FOR PARKING BEHIND THE NEW TOWN HALL TO BE EXPANDED AND TO USE THE GREEN SPACE ALONG MILITARY TRAIL FOR BOTANICAL GARDEN AND WALKING TRAILS.
TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS AND WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE WITH TOWN HALL CAMPUS CONSTRUCTION.
I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A PLAN TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING, REVIEW WHAT EXPANDED PARKING HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE NEW TOWN HALL COMPLEX, AND AS WELL AS A PROPOSAL TO REVIEW WHAT WE MIGHT DO IN THE TOWN GREEN AREA,
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WHICH WOULD HAPPEN RIGHT WHERE THIS BUILDING CURRENTLY SITS.WE'LL REVIEW A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF A POTENTIAL ALIGNMENT OF DANIEL'S WAY WITH PHILADELPHIA DRIVE.
THEN AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO SEEK YOUR INPUT ON WHERE YOU WANT US TO GO WITH THE WITH THE TOWN HALL CAMPUS AS WE DEVELOP OUT.
LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2022, JUST LAYS OUT THE THREE MAJOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE CAMPUS.
THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE RECENTLY COMPLETED POLICE BUILDING, AND THEN THE NEW TOWN HALL BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE BLACK OUTLINE OF THE EXISTING TOWN HALL BUILDINGS, AND THEN ALSO IF YOU HAD NOTICED THE VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE CANOPY THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT, AND I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE PROCEED.
THIS IS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL OF WHAT THE NEW TOWN HALL BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE, WHAT THAT PROPOSED CANOPY WILL LOOK LIKE THAT COMES OFF THE SALT END OF THE TOWN HALL BUILDING AND THEN THE EXTENDED PARKING.
WHEN THIS FIRST CAME TO COUNCIL, WE JUST HAD A COUPLE OF HANDICAP SPOTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THAT ENTRANCE.
WE'VE NOW EXPANDED AND ADDED ABOUT 14 PARKING SPACES ON THE CELL TYPE.
WHEN PEOPLE EXIT THAT CANOPY, WE'VE PUT THE T ON THAT CANOPY TO PROVIDE FOR GREATER SHADE IN SUN, GREATER RAIN PROTECTION DURING THE RAIN.
WE THINK IT WILL BE MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR GUESTS AND VISITORS TO THE TOWN HALL.
THE CANOPY IS NOT GOING TO BE BUILT AS PART OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT AS PART OF PHASE 2 BECAUSE WE COULDN'T BUILD THAT CANOPY UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DEMOLISH THIS BUILDING.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TALKING TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT THE PLAN TO DEMOLISH THIS BUILDING AND [NOISE] PART OF THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL BE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT CANOPY ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS WELL AS THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED A PRELIMINARY BUDGET FOR THAT PHASE OF THE PROJECT, SO DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING TOWN-HOME BUILDING [NOISE] AND THE SLAB THAT IT SITS ON, AND HAULING ALL OF THAT DEBRIS AWAY, THERE WILL ALSO BE SOME OTHER SITE DEMOLITION, THERE'S A LOT OF PIPING AND CONDUIT THAT GOES UNDER THIS BUILDING, AND WE'RE STILL EVALUATING THE COST, AND SOME OF THOSE COSTS MAY NOT BE KNOWN UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DEMOLISH THIS BUILDING AND PULL UP THE FOUNDATION AND FIND OUT WHAT ELSE MIGHT BE UNDERGROUND THAT WE MAY NEED TO TAKE OUT.
THEN WE HAVE PARKING, PAVING, BUMPERS, AND STRIPES, AND WE'VE GOT SOME BRICK PAVERS AND THEN THE AFOREMENTIONED CANOPY.
THAT TOTAL COST IS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, WITH $100,000 CONTINGENCY AND THE AGREED UPON CONTRACTOR FEE WITH KAUFFMAN AND LYNN.
RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT BUDGET IS ESTIMATED AT $1.4 MILLION.
WE HAVE $1.5 MILLION IN A CIP PROGRAM TO DO THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECT.
BUT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT AND REFINING THIS BUDGET.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL IT AS MONEY TONIGHT, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF WHERE WE WERE IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL EXPENSES, AND IF I GET DIRECTION TO PROCEED, THEN WE WILL CONTINUE FINALIZING A BUDGET AND BRING YOU SOMETHING MORE FORMALLY AS WE PROCEED.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
JOHN SICKLER IS GOING TO FINISH UP THE PRESENTATION AND TALK ABOUT THE BALANCE OF WHAT SHOULD COME.
I'VE BEEN TOLD I'M JUST SUPPOSED TO DO NUTS AND BOLTS.
NOBODY WANTS TO FORMER CFO TO BE THE CREATIVE GUY IN THE ROOM, SO JOHN HANDLES ALL THE WHAT-IFS AND ALL THE GOOD STUFF COMING UP.
I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS WHEN HE'S DONE.
>> BE CREATIVE, MIKE, IT'S FUN.
>> NO, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A FAULT BEING IN THE CREATIVE GUYS.
>> THANK YOU, MIKE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL JOHN SICKLER FOR THE RECORD.
THIS SECOND ACTION ITEM OF THIS STRATEGIC INITIATIVE RELATES TO THE THEN SPACE ON THE TOWN GREEN, WHICH HAS THREE SUB ITEMS, AND I'LL ALSO REVIEW YOUR NEW INITIATIVES FOR THE ADMISSIBLE COMPLEX IN 2024-2025, JUST TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT AND OCCUR TO KEEP THE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW ON THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
MIKE WENT OVER WHAT THIS ACTION ITEM ENTAILS, THERE ARE THREE ITEMS. WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS SOME INPUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INTENT IS FOR THE EVENT SPACE THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THIS ACTION ITEM,
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AND HOW IT SHOULD COMPLEMENT THE INDOOR EVENTS SPACE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.THE SECOND ITEM RELATED TO THE ADDITIONAL PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN HALL HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED.
IN OUR RESPECT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THEN THE THIRD ITEM IS INPUT BEING NEEDED IN REGARD TO THE EXPECTATIONS FOR CREATING A BOTANICAL GARDEN AND A WALKING TRAIL ON THE GREEN SPACE ALONG MILITARY TRAIL.
TO START WITH SOME HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, WE PROVIDED THE DANIEL'S WAY ALIGNMENT THAT WAS CONCEPTUALIZED, AND ON THIS SLIDE IS A CONCEPT PLAN FROM 2017 THAT PROVIDES FOR DIVERTING DANIEL'S WAY TO THE EAST TO ALIGN WITH PHILADELPHIA STREET TO INCORPORATE A SIGNAL AT THAT INTERSECTION.
THEN THIS PLAN SHOWS A CONNECTOR ROADWAY THAT RUNS.
I'LL POINT THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT. I'M SORRY.
THE ROADWAY CONNECTS TO THE ACCESS TO JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL PARKING FOR THE TEACHERS, COMES AROUND WOULD BE DIVERTED TO THE EAST TO CONNECT ACROSS FROM PHILADELPHIA, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGNALIZE THIS INTERSECTION.
THERE WOULD ALSO BE EAST-WEST ROADWAY CONNECTOR THAT WOULD CONNECT INTO THE TOWN HALL MUNICIPAL COMPLEX JUST SOUTH OF THE WENDY'S AND CONNECT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER AUDITORIUM AND THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS.
STAFF NOTES THAT THE TRAFFIC ALONG DANIEL'S WAY HAS REALLY CHANGED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CHANGING, OR THE JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL SPECIFICALLY CHANGING THE USE OF THAT PARKING LOT ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THEIR CAMPUS.
CHANGING IT FROM A STUDENT PARKING LOT, WHICH PEAKED PRETTY HEAVILY AND CREATED A LOT OF TRAFFIC ISSUES AND SAFETY CONCERNS, AND AT THAT INTERSECTION WITH INDIANTOWN ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS AT RIGHT END, RIGHT OUT DRIVEWAY AND IT REQUIRED A LOT OF MANEUVERING TO MAKE U-TURNS TO HEAD WESTBOUND AND SUCH.
BUT WITH THE CHANGE TO A TEACHER PARKING LOT FOR THE DAILY USE OF THAT PARKING LOT, IT REDUCED THE PEAK DEMANDS THAT OCCUR COMING OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT'S CHANGED IS WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
OUR CAMPUS HAS BEEN OPENED UP TO DANIEL'S WAY AND IT PROVIDES FOR CONNECTIVITY ACROSS THE PROPERTY AND PROVIDES ACCESS FROM DANIEL'S WAY TO MILITARY TRAIL, WHICH PROVIDES MORE OPTIONS FOR GETTING OUT AND MAKING MORE TURNING MOVEMENTS WITHOUT MOVING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION AT INDIANTOWN ROAD AND DANIEL'S WAY.
WE DO NOTE FROM THIS PLAN, JUST TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT, THE OVERALL PARCEL THAT WAS ACQUIRED WAS TWO ACRES.
THIS PLAN SHOWS A RESULTING ONE-ACRE PIECE INSIDE OF THIS ROADWAY AREA WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS SHOWN.
IT REDUCES SIGNIFICANTLY OR BIFURCATES THE PARCEL WITH THIS ROADWAY CONNECTION.
IT DOES PROVIDE FOR IN THIS PLAN 66 PARKING SPACES AS JUST A CONCEPT FOR USE OF THE SPACE IN THE TOTAL AREA.
WE DID INCLUDE THAT THERE WAS ESTIMATED BUDGET IN 2019 FOR THIS REALIGNMENT, WHICH WAS $4.5 MILLION.
I WOULD NOTE THAT A MAJORITY OF THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SPENT AND THAT WAS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WAS APPROXIMATELY $2.9 MILLION.
THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THERE WAS A UPDATED BUDGET WHICH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, INCREASED TO ABOUT $900,000, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO REEVALUATE THAT IN TODAY'S DOLLARS TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE EXPENSES MAY BE.
GETTING BACK TO THE SPECIFIC ACTION ITEMS, THE FIRST IS TO EXPLORE THAT EVENT SPACE ON THAT JANICE WAVE PROPERTY WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT, AND THE ACTION PLAN IDENTIFIED THAT THIS SPACE WAS TO COMPLEMENT THE EXISTING INDOOR SPACE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO ASK THE COUNCIL FOR DIRECTION AND WHERE YOU WANT TO HEAD WITH THIS.
ONE IS, IS THE AREA INTENDED TO BE AN OUTDOOR SPACE THAT'S RELATED TO THE RENTAL EVENTS THAT OCCUR AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE AUDITORIUM AREA? WHEREAS IS IT REALLY TO BE PRIMARILY ASSOCIATED WITH LARGER OUTDOOR COMMUNITY EVENTS SUCH AS THE JUBILEE? IF NOT, WHAT ARE THE OTHER IDEAS OR
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INTENDED FUNCTIONALITY THAT WAS ENVISIONED WHEN THIS PRIORITY WAS ESTABLISHED? SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS I WOULD JUST IDENTIFY OR THROW OUT IS THAT, IF DANIEL'S WAY HAS GONE OVER THIS, IS REROUTED, IT WILL BIFURCATE THE PARCEL AND LEAD TO THAT SECOND LINE INTERSECTION.I WOULD NOTE THAT THAT ROADWAY THAT WOULD BIFURCATE COULD BE CLOSED DURING DAYS WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT AN OPERATION, SO YOU'D STILL HAVE THE REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY ACROSS THAT ROADWAY, BUT IT WOULD HAVE A PHYSICAL BARRIER WITH THE ROADWAY.
THE REMAINING USABLE AREA, AS I POINTED OUT, IS APPROXIMATELY ONE-ACRE RESULTS FROM THE TWO-ACRE PARCEL.
JUST TO ACTUALLY FLIP BACK, THERE ARE SOME PIECES OF PROPERTY WHERE THE CURSOR, THE HAND IS POINTING, THESE SLIVERS OVERALL TOTAL ABOUT A-HALF-AN-ACRE TOGETHER NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE CONNECTOR ROADWAY.
IT'S FAINT TO SEE ON THE PLAN, BUT THEY'RE PRIMARILY IDENTIFIED FOR RETENTION AREAS.
THE PARKING AREA, WHILE THERE ARE 66 SPACES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE PARCEL, THERE ISN'T MUCH PARKING ON THE COMPLEX TODAY.
THAT'S INCONVENIENT PROXIMITY TO THIS PARCEL IF IT WAS USED FOR A MAJOR ATTRACTION.
ALSO TO NOTE THAT BUFFERING FROM THE HIGHWAY NOISE MAY BE A CONSIDERATION THAT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT OF DEPENDING ON WHAT THE USE IS, BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE SIXTH LANE ARTERIAL AT THE INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THEN LASTLY, JUST REALLY A COMMENT, I'LL STRESS SOME DEGREE, IS IF AN AREA IS INTENDED TO RELATE DIRECTLY TO THE EXISTING AUDITORIUM SPACE AND THE INDOOR EVENT SPACE, OTHER DESIGN ALTERNATIVES MAY BE AVAILABLE TO LOOK AT EXPLORING OPENING UP THE EAST SIDE OF THE AUDITORIUM WALL WITH MORE GLASS AND WINDOWS TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT AND OPEN THAT UP TO AN OUTDOOR AREA THAT COULD HAVE A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH THE INDOOR SPACE UNDER THE PORT COST-SHARE WHERE THE BUSES QUEUE CURRENTLY AND THAT BUS AREA COULD BE RELOCATED SOMEWHERE AS WELL.
[NOISE] THE THIRD SUB ITEM FOR THIS ACTION ITEM IS THE USE OF THE GREEN SPACE ALONE MILITARY TRAIL FOR BOTANICAL GARDEN AND A WALKING TRAIL.
STAFF NOTES THAT WALKING TRAILS CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO ANY DESIGN SCENARIO THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER FOR THIS SPACE.
WE WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION, IS THE AREA INTENDED TO BE A MORE SERENE AND CONTEMPLATIVE SPACE OR IS IT INTENDED TO BE A MORE ACTIVE SPACE? THE NEXT QUESTION IS, IS THE AREA DESIGNED TO HAVE MORE SEASONAL PLANTINGS AS A BOTANICAL GARDEN, OR IS IT REALLY INTENDED TO BE MORE NATURAL IN CHARACTER? THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCORPORATE WATER FEATURES, SCULPTURES, ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURES, PAVILIONS FOR SHADE [INAUDIBLE] AND OTHER TYPE USES WHETHER IT'S DURING EVENTS OR ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS FOR EMPLOYEES OF THIS COMPLEX OR FOR THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.
SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS POINTED OUT FOR THIS ARE THAT THE TOWN GREEN IS APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRE, SO IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PARCEL ON THE CAMPUS.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEW HAVEN NEIGHBORHOOD SQUARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, SOUTH OF FREDERICK'S MALL, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SQUARE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.4 ACRES, AND IT HAS A COMMUNITY-BUILDING ON THAT PARCEL AT ONE END, AND THEN IT HAS A POLE AND A RESTROOM BUILDING ON THE OPPOSITE END.
THAT CLUBHOUSE BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 2,000 SQUARE FEET FOR REFERENCE.
AT THIS LOCATION, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT PARKING THAT'S PROXIMATE TO THE GREEN TO ACCOMMODATE CONVENIENT PARKING FOR USES ON THE PROPERTY.
THE SPACE IS ADEQUATELY SIZED TO HOST LARGER EVENTS.
IT CAN BE USED INCORPORATING FOOD TRUCKS OR TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT PLAY AREAS AND EXERCISE AREAS.
ALSO HAVE IMPORTANT NOTE, THERE WAS A LOT OF EFFORT IN THE PLANNING FOR THE NEW TOWN HALL TO PRESERVE IN PLACE A NUMBER OF THE MATURE OAKS THAT EXIST ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY.
MANY OF THEM WERE LOCATED WITHIN 100 FEET OF MILITARY TRAIL, AND THERE'S ANOTHER REALLY SIGNIFICANT ONE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE GREEN AREA, AND ONE MIDWAY BETWEEN, LIKE ON THE EDGE OF THE PARKING AREA NOT TO MENTION NUMEROUS OTHERS THAT ARE FURTHER OUT ON THEIR PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE SHADE STRUCTURES OR OTHER SHADE STRUCTURES THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED FOR THE USES ON THAT GREEN AREA.
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WE JUST PROVIDED A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OF THE VIEWER BEACH BOTANICAL GARDEN, WHICH IS A VERY SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER PROPERTY.I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 40 ACRES, AS MOST BOTANICAL GARDENS ARE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN ACREAGE.
JUST TO SHOW YOU IN THIS PLAN, THIS PLAN SHOWS SOME OF THE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING THAT IS PLANNED FOR THIS SPACE BASED ON THE CURRENT SITE PLAN.
ALL OF THE TREES THAT ARE SHOWN WITH DASHED LINES, SO THERE'S ONE OF THE MOST, THE LARGEST ONE IS IF YOU GO UP TO THE TOP MANAGER'S OFFICE FROM THE SOUTH STAIRWELL, THAT LARGE TREE WHERE THE PICNIC TABLE IS, IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST TREES IN THIS AREA.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IN THE PARKING LOT HERE, JUST OUTSIDE THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTH LOBBY.
THEN THERE'S LARGE NUMBER OF LARGE TREES ON THIS AREA WITHIN 100 FEET OF THE MILITARY TRIAL THAT I MENTIONED.
I WOULD NOTE THAT THE CIRCLES THAT ARE INDICATED HERE ARE FAR UNDERESTIMATE THE SCOPE AND SIZE OF THOSE TREES ACTUALLY.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS AREA IS WELL-SUITED FOR EVENTS LIKE THE JUBILEE, AND THE JUPITER'S UPCOMING 100-YEAR ANNIVERSARY IN 2025.
THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES TO CONSIDER FOR THIS AREA FOR WEEKLY OR MONTHLY COMMUNITY EVENTS, BOTH FOR THE COMMUNITY EMPLOYEE GATHERINGS AND SUCH.
LIKE SOME OF THEIR COMMUNITIES LIKE FORT PIERCE DOES A FRIDAY FAST ON THEIR MAIN STREET THAT WELCOMES THE COMMUNITY OUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, CALAMITOUS WAY NOTICE SOMETHING THAT WEST PALM BEACH DOES MORE PROXIMATE TO JUPITER.
AGAIN, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOOD TRUCKS.
IT COULD BE PROGRAMMED FOR A MUSIC VENUE, WHICH ALSO RELATES TO ONE OF YOUR OTHER INITIATIVES FOR HOSTING AN ANNUAL MUSICAL FESTIVAL.
THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE DESIGN OPTIONS FOR THAT SPACE IN PARTICULAR.
THE NEXT ITEM I WANTED TO INTRODUCE IS THAT THE NEW INITIATIVES IN YOUR 24, 25 FISCAL YEAR PLANS INCLUDE NEW ACTION PLANS TO IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL SITE, INCLUDING THE MEMORIAL BRICK PROGRAM, TO DEVELOP A STRATEGY FOR THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE ADMISSIBLE COMPLEX, AND TO SECURE A RIGHT-OF-WAY TRANSFER AGREEMENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ESTABLISH OR ENABLE THE REALIGNMENT OF DANIEL'S WAY, WHICH IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO ONE OF THIS YEAR'S ACTION ITEMS WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER.
JUST AS A SUMMARY, THIS COMPLEX HAS REALLY BEEN TRANSFORMED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS BUILDING IN THE TOWN HALL.
IT'S CREATED A SYNERGY INTERNALLY TO THE PARCEL WITH THOSE THREE BUILDINGS WITH A REALLY NICE URBAN DESIGN THAT'S BEING CREATED WITH THOSE SPACES THAT YOU CAN REALLY SEE TODAY WITH AS FAR ALONG AS THE CONSTRUCTIONIST COME WITH THE TOWN HALL.
SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE THREE AREAS THAT WE'VE POINTED OUT AS PART OF THE REMAINING PARCELS OF THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
ONE IS THE TOWN GREEN THAT WE'VE GONE OVER THE 1.7 ACRES, THE DANIEL'S WAY PROPERTY, WHICH IS TWO ACRES, AND THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT WITH THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS TWO ACRES.
NOW WHEN IN PARTICULAR HAS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ENGAGE THE MAJOR TOWN INTERSECTION AT AN INDIANTOWN AND MILITARY TRAIL, THAT REALLY CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY IDENTIFYING FEATURES THAT THERE'S A TOWN HALL AND MUNICIPAL COMPLEX HERE AT THIS MAJOR INTERSECTION.
THAT PROVIDES YOU WITH A LOT OF IDEAS.
IT'S A LOT TO DIGEST AS IT RELATES TO THE OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO SCRATCH THE SURFACE, PIECE TOGETHER YOUR CURRENT YEAR ACTION PLANS AND IDEAS WITH YOUR NEXT YEAR ACTION ITEMS TO BEGIN TO GET SOME FEEDBACK AS IT RELATES TO WHERE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT ITEM THAT MIGHT GET GONE OVER WAS REALLY TO CONFIRM THE PLANS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEMOLITION OF THE OLD TOWN HALL SO THAT THE COMPLETION OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE NEW TOWN HALL CAN BE COMPLETED WITH THAT COVERED WALKWAY AND THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING AREA THAT WAS ADDED THROUGH THE PRIOR REQUEST.
THEN THE SECOND ITEM, WHICH IS REALLY MORE LONGER TERM AND THINK ABOUT THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THOSE KEY PARCELS THAT ARE ALONG THE PERIMETER OF
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THE PROPERTY TO REALLY ENGAGE AND REACH OUT EXTERNALLY FROM THE CAMPUS OR TO LOOK AT THE THINGS RELATED TO DANIEL'S WAY IN PARTICULAR, IF YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT THE ALIGNMENT WITH PHILADELPHIA DRIVING FURTHER DETAIL TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP SOME CONCEPTS FOR EVENTS SPACE ON THAT PERSONAL.ALSO, IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN IDEAS OF INDOOR RECREATION, WHICH IT MAY LEND ITSELF TO ON SOME OF THAT PARCEL WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY CENTER.
THEN FOR THE GREEN SHED STAFF DEVELOP MORE DETAILS IN DESIGN CONCEPTS TO BRING BACK TO YOU FOR A BOTANICAL GARDEN WITH WALKING TRAILS.
AGAIN, A LOT TO PUT ON THE TABLE FOR YOU.
I KNOW MIKE WOULD APPRECIATE GETTING A CLEAR ANSWER ON THE FIRST ITEM, AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ANY FEEDBACK, GIVE YOU ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR COLLECT THAT FOR ANY FUTURE ACTION YOU WANT TO TAKE AND WHERE YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
THERE'S A LOT HERE. I KNOW I'M NOT READY.
MAJORITY OF US NOT READY TO BE GIVEN TOO MUCH IN THE WAY OF DIRECTION TONIGHT, BUT I'LL JUST SAY, GOING THROUGH SOME HISTORY AND SOME OF THE PERSPECTIVES.
FIRST OF ALL, WE ENDED UP WITH A COMMUNITY-BUILDING, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE POLICE BUILDING AND A TOWN HALL, BECAUSE OF THE ONLY PLACES TO BUILD THEM ON THE SITE.
THOSE ARE FIXED. NOW, I THINK I WANT TO PONDER AND WE ALL SHOULD PONDER THE REST OF THE SITE.
IF I'LL START FIRST, I'LL GO TO THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
WE BOUGHT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY QUITE FRANKLY BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME HONOR COUNCIL THAT WANTED TO DO IT.
[BACKGROUND] I WAS JUST SAYING WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY JASON DANIEL'S WAY BECAUSE AT ONE TIME WE HAD SOMEONE IN THE COUNCIL THAT WANTED TO BUILD AN ATHLETIC FACILITY THERE.
WE BOUGHT IT, JUST BINGO, WE HAD IT.
WE LEARNED ABOUT IT THROUGH OPENINGS WITH A THOUGHT THAT YOU COULD IMPROVE CIRCULATION BY CREATING A LIGHT THERE ACROSS THE WAY, THAT'S A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.
SO ALTHOUGH IN MY MIND, IT REALLY WASN'T A PRIORITY FOR IT, IT'S A COMMON SENSE THING THAT POTENTIALLY DO.
BUT THEN WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENFORCE OR MOURNING CLOTHES ON IT WAS THAT NUMBER 1.
FIRST OF ALL, TALK ABOUT DANIEL'S WAY.
WE LEARNED THAT DANIEL'S WAY REVERTS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IT'S WHATEVER GETS REROUTED AND I'LL TELL YOU THE LONGEST TENURED PERSON WITH KIDS IN MY HIGH SCHOOL IT'S FIEFDOM AND THEY'VE CHANGED MANY TIMES OVER WHO USES THAT PARKING LOT.
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IT WAS A SENIOR PARKING LOT.
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE MY THREE DAUGHTERS WERE CLASS PRESIDENTS FOR NUMBER OF YEARS, SO IT WAS APPOINTING ONE SO IT COULD CHANGE NEXT YEAR.
SO ANYBODY THINKS IT'S GOING TO BE THAT WAY IT'S NOT.
THAT'S WHY STRATEGICALLY WHAT MAKES SENSE IS I DON'T KNOW WHY THE DISTRICT WOULD WOULD OBJECT TO IF WE REALIGN AND IT'S BETTER FOR THEM.
THEY GAVE US THE ROAD THAT'S WHY WE HAD THE STRATEGIC ITEM.
LET'S LOCK THAT DOWN THAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT IF AND WHEN WE WERE TO RELOCATE IT, THEN THAT'S OURS BECAUSE THEN THAT OPENS UP, BUT WE HAVE THAT AT HAND.
IT OPENS UP AN OPTION FOR PROPERTY SWAP THAT AT ONE TIME WE HAD, I'M NOT SUGGESTING OPENS US TO A LOT OF THINGS.
BUT WE THEN THIS COUNCIL OR WHATEVER COUNCIL AT THE TIME WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE IF A PROPERTY SWAP BECAUSE WENDY'S WAS GOING TO REBUILD AND THEY COULD GO THERE AND THEN WE NOW RATHER THAN RIGHT NOW, WE OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IF IT GETS BISECTED BY A ROADWAY, IT'S ALMOST WORTH THE SOUTHERN BY ITSELF.
WE CAN'T DO THAT PARKING LOT WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GOING TO GIVE US THE PROPERTY.
SO AGAIN, WE HAVE THAT IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, THAT'S LOGICAL.
ALTHOUGH I HAD NOT SUPPORTED IT THAT PARCEL WAS PURCHASED FOR AN ATHLETIC FACILITY.
WE MAY NEED AN ATHLETICS FACILITY AND THAT'S A POTENTIAL SITE.
I THINK WE NEED TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON THAT BECAUSE I LOVE
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THE OPTION THAT'S IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS CNF WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ON WEST COMMUNITY.I DO THINK THAT'S IN THERE AND THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO PAUSE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING UP.
IF THAT WORKS OUT, THAT WE GET MORE ATHLETIC FACILITY SPACE PARTNERING, IS THAT ALL THE TOWN ON THE WEST COMMUNITY SITE THEN THAT'S A GREAT SOLUTION BUT IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN WE WANT TO BE CONSIDERING THAT ON THIS CAMPUS.
YOU REALLY HAVE TO THINK OF THE THINGS IN LINE IN THE PRIORITY ORDER AND UNTIL THOSE PRIORITIES GET DONE, I DON'T THINK I'M NOT READY TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION BECAUSE WE COULD BE LOCKED OUT OF IT.
BILLING 61 SPACES NOW I THINK THAT'S THE MORE IMPORTANT PIECE FOR SOMETHING.
THEN I'LL SAY THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IN THE LONG TERM, WHERE IS GOING TO BE THE EAST AND NORTH ENTRYWAY TO THE TOWN.
I ALWAYS FELT ACCESS, IS A HODGEPODGE, ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND THE SIGNAGE IS IN SO QUITE FRANKLY, I'D LIKE US TO DECIDE SOME TIME, MAYBE NOT TONIGHT, WHERE THE PRIMARY INTERESTS IS GOING TO BE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REPLACE THE SIGNAGE TO SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL FOR THE SITE.
I'M JUST THINKING IT WOULD MAKE SENSE SOMETHING ON THE EAST END AND SOMETHING ON THE NORTH END AND WE MAY CONCLUDE ONE OF THOSE TWO CAN'T BE DONE NOW, BUT AT LEAST KNOW THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S NO OPTION ON THE DEMO, WE HAVE TO DO THE DEMO.
I WOULD SUBMIT THOUGH THAT I THINK IT'S FOR ME, IT'S PREMATURE WHEN THE COVERED SPACE BECAUSE THE BUILDING HAS TO BE TAKEN DOWN SO I WOULD SAY WE HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A RISK BEING THERE, WE KNOW IT'S NOT HURRICANE WORTHY.
MY COLLEAGUES MAY BE, BUT I'M NOT READY TO SAY YES ON THE CANOPY, THIS SELF-PARKING AREA TILL I MORE UNDERSTAND HOW, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
BOTANICAL GREEN GARDENING, GREEN SPACE, WHICH WAS THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH YOU COULDN'T DO UNTIL THE BUILDING IS DEMOLISHED, IT COME TO US AND WE ALL WANTED TO HAVE SOME BETTER SENSE ABOUT THAT.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A LOGICAL ONE MAYBE TO WORK ON.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO GO TONIGHT, I DON T THINK EVERYBODY CAN.
I'M OPEN MINDED TO WHAT IT IS AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT I DO THINK THAT WITH THE DEMO, THEN WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THAT? THAT SEEMS DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS, WHAT YOU WIND UP DOING THERE.
BUT SOME TYPE OF GREEN SPACE IN THIS SITE WAS, AND HOPEFULLY WILL RETURN TO BEING A PLACE THAT WE HAVE THE JUPITER JUBILEE SO WERE THAT TO HAPPEN THEN YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE SOME GREEN SPACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE LOST IT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW TOWN HALL.
I KNOW I'VE SAID A LOT, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT TO ME, GETTING THE AGREEMENT THAT WE WILL GET THE DANIEL'S WAY RIGHT AWAY CLOSURE ON INDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITY OPTIONS WITH THE COUNTY IT PREDECESSORS TO DECIDING.
BUT I DO THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO DO AND I WASN'T SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT $50 MILLION MORE IN SPENDING HERE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN HERE.
IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON GRASS NOTWITHSTANDING, BUT I DO THINK ALONG MILITARY WE CAN SOMEWHAT FINISH UP BUT ALONG INDIANTOWN, I THINK IT'S STILL OPEN TO WHOLE WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE BUILDINGS THERE BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE IF WE WERE TO FLOP PROPERTIES AND STUFF THAT CHANGES THE WHOLE DIMENSION AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THERE.
BUT ANY OF THE NICHE BY THOUGHT TO ME, I THINK VICE MAYOR WAS RAISING HER HAND IF YOU WANT I THINK I'VE GONE THROUGH MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
>> WELL, I WAS THE ONE THAT HE SUGGESTED ABOUT THE TECHNICAL GARDENING,
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WALKING AS ON THE TOWN GREEN AND PART OF THAT ORIGINALLY WAS PROPOSED TO BE AN EVENT SPACE, BUT THE CONCERN WAS THERE ARE NO BATHROOMS AND ARE WE GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY GOING INTO THE NEW TOWN HALL BUILDING FOR THE BATHROOMS? THAT'S WHEN I THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE INSTEAD THE DANIEL'S WAY PROPERTY AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAT WAS JUST MY INITIAL THOUGHT, WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE TO HAVE AN EVENT SPACE BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER THERE AND YOU HAVE ALL THE BATHROOMS. THAT WAS A PRACTICAL LIMITATION.THE OTHER THOUGHT THAT PLANNING AND ZONING SUGGESTED A LONG TIME AGO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS WAS TO TURN THE TOWN GREEN PARALLEL TO MILITARY TRAIL SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT PARKING LOT LOST ON ITS OWN IN THE CORNER AND THAT THE PARKING WAS CLOSER TO THE BUILDING. [NOISE] OF COURSE, WE HAD TO TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN.
BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH MIRACLE RISKY THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HERE AND I THINK SOME MORE TIME WOULD BE USEFUL TO REALLY GET A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
>> AGAIN, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD YOU JUST TO CLARIFY THE IDEA FLOP INTO TOWN GREEN.
>> YEAH. RIGHT NOW IT'S THE LONG SIDE, IS PERPENDICULAR TO MILITARY.
THE IDEA THAT PLANNING AND ZONING HAD WAS TO TURN IT.
THE LONG SIDE WAS ON LONG MILITARY AND SO THEN YOU'VE GOT THE GREEN COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN WHERE YOU'VE GOT THAT PARKING LOT.
IN THAT WAY, THE PARKING IS CLOSER TO THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT THIS.
>> WEIRD WE'RE BUYING WITH A MARKER IS NOW WE TURN IT THIS WAY.
>> YES, SO THAT YOU DON'T JUST HAVE THE SAD, LOST, LONELY PARKING LOT SITTING THERE.
>> AS IT'S OUTLINED IN THERE. RENDERING HERE.
>> JUST FLIP IT. THE GREEN MAYOR JUST TO TURN IT.
>> YEAH. I THINK ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THAT WASN'T STAFF, IT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TALKS ABOUT MOVING THE GREEN.
I MEAN, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
IT WAS BASICALLY WHERE THE HAND IS MOVING.
AS I UNDERSTOOD, IT WOULDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO CROSS THE DRIVEWAY AND HAVE IT AGAIN BIFURCATED.
BUT THEN IT DETACHES OF ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE BUILDING, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE INTENTS TO HAVE THIS SPACE, THE SPACE CONNECT.
>> THEN TO ME. IT WAS LIKE, WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE IN EVENT SPACE AND THAT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING.
IS IT REALLY THE RIGHT CONNECTION? WHICH IS WHY I WAS THINKING MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING BY THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS A PUBLIC SPACE.
WE CAN ALL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE LATER, BUT THAT WAS JUST SOME OF MY INITIAL FALL [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE DID SPECIFICALLY DESIGN RESTROOMS RIGHT IN THAT MAIN HALLWAY.
>> WE HAVE STALLS FOR MEN AND STALLS A WOMAN, I THINK THERE ARE FOUR AND FOUR AND FOUR [NOISE] IN THE MAIN HALLWAY, SO THE REST OF TOWN HALL CAN BE SEALED OFF AND YOU WOULD HAVE A DIRECT PASS THROUGH FROM THE TOWN GREEN TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND THERE'S RESTROOMS.
>> IT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION THOUGH FOR SURE.
LIKE WATER FEATURES FOR CHILDREN, YOU WOULD NEED RESTROOMS FOR THAT.
IF YOU'RE OUTDOORS AND SWEATY, ARE YOU FEELING COMFORTABLE TO USE THAT? I MEAN, IS IT A VERY FORMAL SETTING OR YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ACCESSING THOSE? IT'S A BIGGER QUESTION.
>> YEAH. THEN YOU'RE INVITING LOTS OF PEOPLE MILLING AROUND INSIDE AND IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING.
I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE FINE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT I'M NOT SURE.
YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE GREEN AND YOU'VE GOT A LINE IF PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE THE KIDS TO THE BATHROOM, YOU GOT FOR US BALLS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING SOMETHING SOMEPLACE ELSE WHERE IT'S MAYBE MORE MULTIPLE BATHROOMS. I MEAN. I'M SAYING I GUESS I DON'T KNOW [LAUGHTER].
>> I MEAN, THERE SHOULD BE SOME PLANS EITHER WAY.
BOTH WAYS AND LET'S LOOK AT IT.
THERE'S PROS AND CONS, ONE UP HERE.
I'M NOT CLOSED-MINDED ABOUT THAT WAY OR THE OTHER WAY.
I'D LIKE TO ASSUME BOTH WITH PROS AND CONS BY STAFF.
THE RIGHT DECISION CAN BE MADE.
IT'S JUST PARKING SPACE OR TOWN GREEN, SO IT CAN BE WORKED OUT.
>> ONE THING I HAD THOUGHT OF THAT I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT THERE IS JUPITER IS KNOWN FOR ITS NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE KNOWN FOR.
YOU ALWAYS WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE FUNCTIONALITY TO AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS.
THAT IS JUPITER. I THOUGHT WITH PALM BEACH POST RECENTLY WROTE ABOUT THOSE TRUMPET TREES, THE YELLOW TREES.
THEY'RE SO BEAUTIFUL THAT PEOPLE GO AND PHOTOGRAPH AROUND TOWN OR ON THE JUPITER LOCALS PAGE.
IT'D BE INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT LIKE SOME STATEMENT TREE.
BUT A NUMBER OF THEM ENOUGH TO CATCH ATTENTION AND DRAW PEOPLE IN.
I THINK WE WANT TO DRAW PEOPLE INTO THIS NEW TOWN HALL, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF FUNCTIONALITY AND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE TOWN?
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WE WANT THE NEW TOWN HALL TO BE ACCESSIBLE.I LIKE THE IDEA OF ACTIVE USES.
WE DON'T HAVE CONCESSIONS, THERE'S NOWHERE TO EAT ANYWHERE ON THAT CAMPUS. YOU HAVE TO GO OFF.
IT'D BE NICE TO ALLOW THE OPTION FOR FOOD TRUCKS IN TERMS OF ACCESSIBILITY, IF POSSIBLE.
I KNOW THOSE ARE HAT, WE HAVE THOSE FOR THE JUBILEE THAT JUBILEE WAS AT ONE POINT ON THE CAMPUS, IT WOULD BE NICE TO BRING IT BACK.
I THOUGHT ABOUT A WATER FEATURE, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH BATHROOMS [LAUGHTER] I DO THINK THAT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE.
IF THE TOWN GREEN WERE TO BE TURNED, I LIKE THE WAY IT WOULD ENGAGE THE FRONT ENTRANCE.
YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY FIND IT AND SEE IT.
IT WOULD BE MORE GREEN SPACE, LONG MILITARY TRAIL THAT SAD IF IT WERE AN EVENT SPACE, YOU WOULD WANT IT CONNECTED TO THE NEW TOWN HALL AND THE WAY THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, POTENTIALLY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ELEVATIONS ARE HER THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ELEVATIONS RECENTLY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SPACE LOOKS LIKE OR IF YOU COULD HAVE A PAVILION, I MEAN, ALL OF THIS GETS VERY EXPENSIVE VERY QUICKLY, ISN'T THERE SAID.
I THINK WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS WE DO NEED TO GET TOGETHER.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES JUST TO THROW IDEAS OUT THERE.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF JUST HAVING A STATEMENT TREE TO A NUMBER OF STATEMENTS TREES TO DRAW ATTENTION IF ONE EXISTS AND IT'S MANAGEABLE.
I HAD TALKED A WHILE AGO ABOUT PUBLIC ART.
WE DO HAVE THE ART COMMITTEE, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THAT THERE IT DOES CONCERN ME THE AMOUNT OF SOD ON THE TOWN GREEN.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN PLAY ON THE TOWN GREEN AND I WORRY ABOUT MAINTENANCE, BUT IF YOU HAVE A BOTANICAL GARDEN OR WALKING PATHS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THAT SIDE WHICH CAN BE GOOD.
>> YEAH. OUR BUTTERFLY GARDEN, ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THESE ARE.
I'M SAYING THIS WITHOUT KNOWING HOW EXPENSIVE THESE ARE.
WE SHOULD KNOW AND HAVE THESE THINGS PRICED OUT OR SOME BALLPARK.
I WORRIED ABOUT THAT WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
HERE WE ARE MENTIONING STRATEGIC ITEMS AND NOT KNOWING THEIR COST.
I SAY ALL OF THESE THINGS, NOT KNOWING THEIR COST BUT JUST WANTING TO EXPLORE, I'M SURE I WOULD QUICKLY CHANGE MY MIND ON A NUMBER OF THEM IF I KNEW THE COST.
THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
IS THAT THE EXERCISE AREA THAT WE HAVE IN ON THE CURRENT CAMPUSES IT PRESERVED.
I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT. IS IT GONE? THE OUTDOOR EXERCISE EQUIPMENT HAS GONE.
WE SHOULD FIND A NEW PLACE WHERE I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT MISSED IT.
POTENTIALLY. WE DO HAVE A PLAYGROUND CURRENTLY.
WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THAT AS WELL.
>> I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT'D BE NICE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK AROUND THE COMPLEX OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PARKING LOTS.
I MEAN, SO MANY TIMES DOES THE STAFF ON A WALK AND I WAS WALKING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND WE HAVE A NICE PATH THAT WAS SHADED SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE WALKS SO WITHOUT HAVING TO WEAVE IN AND OUT OF THE CARS.
>> I LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
EVERYTHING THE MAYOR SAID, RIGHT NOW OLD TOWN HALL HAS TO GO VERY EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO BRING THE TUPLE LEAD BACK TO THE [NOISE] CAMPUS.
THE VISION OF THE REC CENTER OR NEW INDOOR REC CENTER, MAYBE BEING ATTACHED TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER SO HOWARD, ANY RENDERING OF THAT AFTER WE EXPLORE THE SITUATION WITH THE COUNTY IF THE COMPLEX UPON WEST MILITARY.
JUST ANYTHING THEY GIVE US FUTURE FLEXIBILITY.
DON'T RUSH INTO ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO THE WATER FEATURE AND ALL THAT.
IF WE'RE NOT SURE NOW MAYBE WE CAN EVEN ROUGH PLUM TO AN AREA WHERE IT MAY BE IT'S INEXPENSIVE AND THEN YOU'RE NOT EXCAVATING DOWN THE ROAD OR I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S AN OPTION.
BUT IN REGARDS TO THE TOWN GREEN BEING FLIPPED, NICE TO HAVE THE GREEN ALONG MILITARY, BUT THEN IF AN EVENT YOU HAVE THE TRAFFIC NOISE THE WHOLE TIME, AT LEAST IF IT'S PERPENDICULAR, THE FURTHER YOU GO INTO THE TOWN GREEN IS A LITTLE QUIETER.
THAT'S THE ONLY MORE OF AN AESTHETIC THING FOR THAT, BUT.
I'M OPEN-MINDED TO ANYTHING THERE.
I DECIDED TO SAY SO FAR SO GOOD.
I'M HOPING WHAT COMES UP AND JUST I'M INTO THE FLEXIBILITY ASPECT OF EVERYTHING DOWN THE ROAD, ESPECIALLY WITH DANIEL'S WAY.
>> I AGREE WITH FLEXIBILITY AND DANIEL'S WAY.
WE MIGHT ADD A STOPLIGHT THERE.
IS THAT RIGHT? OR THAT WAS THE ONE OPTION IF YOU LIGHTEN IT [OVERLAPPING].
>> NOT A DATE, IT GETS REALIGNED ACROSS THE WAY.
>> THAT WAS WHAT WAS MAKING IT A SAFER INTERSECTION THEN IN THE FUTURE.
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>> THAT YOU HAVE NORTH, ON THE NORTH SIDE COMING OUT, THEY'VE GOT A TRAFFIC LIGHT, AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE FROM THE SCHOOL OR FROM THIS PROPERTY COMING OUT, YOU'VE GOT TO LIGHT.
>> HOW MANY LIGHTS DO WE HAVE ON INDIANTOWN?
>> THEY WERE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS COME OUT OF THAT ROAD.
>> THERE ARE. I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME WHEN I PICK UP MY KIDS. I JUST DON'T KNOW THE TRAFFIC. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'D BE CURIOUS. I JUST WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
>> I'M CERTAINLY HAVE NEVER ADVOCATED FOR THAT.
BUT AS WE MOVE TOWARDS MORE AND MORE, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN ROAD, PROBABLY TURNING INTO THE PROPERTY.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, THE ENTRYWAY INTO THIS PROPERTY, JUST SOUTH OF WENDY'S, WE HAD A CHANGE AT ENTRY RATES TWO OR THREE TIMES BECAUSE PEOPLE MAKING THE TERM THERE.
HAVING IT [NOISE] HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN IN BY A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND MAYBE HAVE A TURNOFF.
[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] IT'S THE WORST ROAD I CAN EVER HAVE.
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S WHY, I PERSONALLY LIKE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE IN THE NORTH SIDE.
>> WELL, I USE IT BUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> AS FAR AS DANIEL'S WAY GO, LET ME JUST TONIGHT AT 5:30, THERE WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ACCIDENT RIGHT THERE, I THINK.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS A ROLLOVER OR WHAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF UNITS ON THAT CALL.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS OFTEN.
BUT I WON'T DIG FURTHER INTO THAT BECAUSE I'M OUT OF BANDWIDTH FOR TONIGHT.
AS FAR AS THE DESTRUCTION [LAUGHTER] AT TOWN HALL, AS WE ALL OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THAT, AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT HOW TO APPROACH THE TOWN GREEN AND DO THAT STUFF AT A LATER NIGHT.
>> MIKE, I THINK YOU HAD TO WARN THAT IS MOST CRITICAL TO THE DEGREE THAT WHEN BUILDING IS DONE YOU WERE PROPOSING THE BUDGET AND I WAS NOT YET READY, PERSONALLY ON THE CANOPY TO THE SOUTH PARKING AREA.
THAT MAY NOT MAY BE THAT I'M OKAY WITH IT AS WE GO ON, BUT WHAT DOES THE OTHER COUNCIL THINK ABOUT THAT ITEM?
>> IT FITS IN THE PLAN AND IF YOU NEED TO KNOW NOW I'M OKAY WITH IT.
>> YEAH. I'D LIKE TO COME BACK WITH A FIRM BUDGET, CONTRACT AMENDMENT.
THEN AT THAT TIME YOU CAN STILL PICK AND CHOOSE IF YOU DECIDE YOU ONLY WANT TO DO THE DEMO. WE CAN DO THE DEMO.
BUT I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST GET SOMETHING THAT I FEEL MORE CONFIDENT IN THESE BUDGETARY NUMBERS.
MOST OF THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY GOOD.
I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE UNDERGROUND DEMO COSTS.
BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS A LITTLE MORE EFFORT ON THAT AND THEN COME BACK.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN STATE.
>> YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THESE OLD BUILDINGS.
>> IT'S WHEN YOU START DIGGING.
>> DOES THAT CANOPY COME OUT TO A DROP-OFF, POINT?
>> I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING THAT, OKAY.
>> YES. IT'LL COME OFF TO A DROP-OFF POINT. YES, IT WILL.
IT WILL COME OUT TO A DROP-OFF POINT.
>> I THINK IT'S THOSE THINGS THAT WE DON'T DO, WE WILL REGRET IT DOWN THE ROAD.
WE MIGHT AS WELL PLAN FOR IT AND KNOCK IT OUT.
>> I THOUGHT WE NEEDED IT. IN SOME WAYS, IT'S REALLY THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S EASIER.
>> YEAH, WE HAVE THIS SHADE THERE AND HAVE SOMETHING THERE.
>> I'LL FLUSH ALL OF THAT OUT AND COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU GUYS TO DO THEM ALL, PICK AND CHOOSE.
EVEN THE EXTRA PARKING, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE, THIS IS ALL NEW PARKING.
WE MAY NOT NEED ALL THAT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACTIVATE THE GREEN SPACE RIGHT AWAY.
I'LL COME BACK WITH A MULTIPLE-CHOICE LIST FOR YOU ALL TO CHOOSE FROM WHEN I COME BACK NEXT.
>> TOWN GREEN IS BIG AS POSSIBLE, I THINK BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE TO PAPER SUPPLY [OVERLAPPING].
>> TOWN GREEN IS LARGE AS POSSIBLE, WHATEVER WE CAN DO [OVERLAPPING] THE SIZE.
>> THE TOWN GREEN, RIGHT NOW I'M HEARING WELL, LET'S JUST LEVEL IT.
>> GET SOME GRASS SEED OVER THERE GET IT GREEN AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN WORK WITH JOHN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
>> YEAH, IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN EVENT SPACE, IT'S GOING TO NEED BATHROOMS AND WATER FOUNTAINS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, AND BENCHES AND SHADE AND BLAH, BLAH SO IT SNOWBALLS AND WHICH IS FINE, BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IF IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL EVENT SPACE.
>> BY THE WAY, THE CANOPY, I'LL JUST SAY THIS THAT, AGREED, IT'S A NICE CITY.
I HAPPEN TO GO TO A CHURCH THAT HAD AN IDEA
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AND A CANOPY 20 YEARS AGO THAT WAS CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET, WAS NEVER STILL PUT IN BECAUSE IT'S A NICE EXTRA.>> I CUT THAT OUT OF THAT BUDGET, NOW I REGRET IT. I'VE BEEN WALKING IN THE RAIN FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS [LAUGHTER].
>> NO, IT'S $200,000 SO THAT WAS A LOGICAL CANOPY, JUST LIKE THIS IS A LOGICAL CANOPY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT ALL ADDS UP SO I GET IT.
BUT LIKE IT'S A COMMUNITY CENTER, IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO DROP OFF.
>> THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
BUT I SEE THAT AS A MORE FREQUENT DROP-OFF THAN I SEE TOWN HALL PERSONALLY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
>> IT JUST THE AMOUNT OF MONEY STANDPOINT.
>> I'LL COME BACK WITH NUMBERS THAT I'LL STAKE MY REPUTATION ON AND YOU GUYS [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, I HOPE WE DON'T REORIENT SOMETHING THERE AND LATER WE FINISH IT UP.
>> WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY TO KEEP YOU SO LONG.
>> WITH THAT, MOVE ON TO REPORTS. TOWN ATTORNEY.
[TOWN MANAGER]
SPEAKING TO OUR LOBBYISTS THE STATE BUDGET PROCESS CONCLUDED YESTERDAY.
IN ADDITION TO FUNDING FOR OUR TOWN HALL CYBERSECURITY PROJECT, THE SIMS CREEK BUSH ROAD PROJECT HAS ALSO BEEN FULLY FUNDED AND THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THROUGH THE VETO PERIOD.
I THINK WHEN YOU COMBINE THOSE PROJECTS TOGETHER, IT'S OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
>> SORT OF VETO. THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS SOMETHING.
>> AGREED. THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR.
>> YEAH. COUNCILOR [INAUDIBLE].
[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]
>> I WILL BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE SENTENCE.
>> I WASN'T VERY GOOD MUCH EARLIER, BUT NOW I JUST WANTED TO SAY THE LOBBYISTS' STUDIO WAS VERY GOOD IDEA, AND IT COST $45,000 PUT IN PLACE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT RETURN IS THE NEXT ONE THIS YEAR.
I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO GO WITHOUT BEING SAID.
THIS MEETING HAS HAD ITS HIGHS AND LOWS [LAUGHTER].
I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD EVER CRY ON THE DIAS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M SO GRATEFUL TO SERVE WITH ALL OF YOU HERE, AND IT'S AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE. THAT'S IT.
>> WHO NEEDS TO GET TO BED, YOU GOOD.
>> NOTHING. THE TIME IS NOW AT 10:37. WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.