>> I'VE DONE MY FAIR SHARE OF THAT WORK. [00:00:03] [OVERLAPPING] ALL RIGHT EVERYBODY. [1. CALL TO ORDER] IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK. IT'S TIME TO CALL THE TOWN OF JUPITER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER ON THIS MARCH 14TH, 2023. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? >>YES. CHAIR TERI GROOMS. >> I'M HERE. >> VICE CHAIR MB HAGUE. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER FRANK FOUR. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER ASHLYN HELD. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER KEVIN KEARNS. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER MARK PENTEL. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER JOHN WEISMAN. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER RICHARD DUNNING. >> HERE. >> BEFORE WE GET INTO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, [3. MINUTES] I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE NEW FORMAT FOR THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING AND WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE WAY WE USED TO DO THEM OR WHETHER WE WANT TO ACCEPT THE NEW ONE. IT IS APPROPRIATE OF ROBERT'S RULES TO CONDENSE THE CONVERSATION AND NOT HAVE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IF THIS ONE SAID THIS AND THIS ONE SAID THAT. IT IS WITHIN THE RULES OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. >> JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR THAT [INAUDIBLE] DIRECTION OF THE MINUTES WERE CONDENSED BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING TO THE POINT OF TRANSCRIPT WHICH SO THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM. >> THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP ON THAT. >> SURE. >> ANYWAY. >> I LIKE HIM. >> YOU LIKE HIM? ALL IN FAVOR [OVERLAPPING] I WANT THE MOTION TO [OVERLAPPING] >> THE ONLY COMPLAINT I WOULD SAY ABOUT IT IS THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO READ THE MINUTES AND NOT WATCH THE PLANNING AND ZONING TAPE, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THE COMMISSIONERS FEEL WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS OR IF THEY'RE LIKING SOMETHING OR NOT LIKING SOMETHING AND JUST CONDENSING IT LIKE THIS SAYING QUESTIONS WERE ASKED ABOUT THIS AND THIS. THAT DOES BOTHER ME A LITTLE BIT THAT THERE WAS NO SPIN PUT ON IT. >> COMMISSIONER FORD HENRY INPUT. >> I THINK IT ONLY MATTERS FOR THOSE OF US WHO MIGHT HAVE CONSIDERED THE TOP [INAUDIBLE] >> INTO COMMISSIONER HAGUE'S POINT, WE ARE HERE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL, SO IF THOSE ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES AND THEY DON'T WATCH THE MEETINGS THEN, I MEAN, THE PRESENTATIONS THAT STAFF IS GOING TO GIVE THE COUNSEL WILL SAY THAT, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S ONLY THAT THE COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDED 4-3 YEAR, 2-1, OR WHATEVER OR DENIED, THEY DON'T REALLY. >> AS LONG AS OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE TRANSMITTED, THE FEELINGS OF THE BOARD BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT DOWN WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON SAYS. >> MARK, YOU SAYING THAT THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WATCH OUR MEETING, BECAUSE I KNEW THEY DO. >> SOME DO. >> SOME DO [OVERLAPPING]. >> THEY DON'T WATCH ALL OF THEM. >> I THINK THEY KNOW A LITTLE CONTEXT AND THE BACKGROUND OF THINGS. >> THAT WAS WHERE THE OLD FORMAT CAME IN, WAS THAT THEY COULD SEE THAT I SAID SOMETHING OR I RECOMMENDED SOMETHING OR ANYBODY ELSE ON THE DIAS RECOMMENDED SOMETHING IN THIS FORMAT, IT'S SORT OF JUST CONDENSING GENERALIZED. >> WITH THAT, CONDENSED AND GENERALIZED, WILL THEY KNOW THE CONTEXT IN WHICH WE'RE EXPLAINING OUR MATTERS OR NOT? >> MR. BAIRD. >>ALL MINUTES ARE REQUIRED TO REFLECT OR THE MOTION THE SECOND AND THE VOTE AND FOR MANY YEARS, THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN REWARDING THE NATURE OF A TRANSCRIPT. IT BECAME A STAFFING ISSUE AND WE ELECTED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE BETWEEN MANAGEMENT AND MYSELF, AND I WAS ASKED WELL, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE SUCH LENGTHY MINUTES WITHIN THE DIALOGUE IN IT. NEW RECOMMENDATIONS REFLECTED TO THE COUNCIL BY VIRTUE OF WHAT YOUR VOTE ON THE PARTICULAR ITEM IS. >> IS THERE AN APPETITE FOR A HYBRID? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? >> I WOULD THINK THAT THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF A COMPROMISE BETWEEN A HUGE TRANSCRIPT AND JUST A PARAGRAPH, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE VOTE AND YOU SAY, WELL, THIS COMMISSIONER VOTED THIS WAY, WELL, WHY? WHAT DID THEY SAY? AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES. [00:05:02] >> WHAT WAS THE REASONING? >> YEAH. WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND IT >> I THINK THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY IF YOU HAVE IT. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> WELL, HOW IS IT DONE STEPH? HOW HOW ARE THESE TRANSCRIBED INTO MINUTES? DOES SOMEBODY GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO OVER AGAIN? >> YES. IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS THAT IT'S ONGOING TO DO THAT. ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE WHEN THERE'S A DISSENTING VOTE, THAT IT'D BE CLEAR THAT WHOEVER'S DISSENTING FROM THE VOTE MAKE THEIR REASONING CLEAR AS PART OF THE DELIBERATIONS. THE COMMISSION DOESN'T ALWAYS DO THAT AND THAT BURDEN IS OFTEN LEFT ON STAFF TO DECIPHER THE REASON WHY AND WE ARE VERY HESITANT TO DO THAT. I THINK ONE, THE MAKING EMOTIONS BY THE COMMISSION COULD BE WORKED ON AND IMPROVED AND WHEN THERE'S A DISSENTING VOTE, THE DISSENTERS, I BELIEVE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CAN MAKE A STATEMENT AS TO THE REASON FOR THEIR DESCENT, AND WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE MINUTES. IF THIS WAS A CERTAIN CASE WHERE IT WAS UNANIMOUS VOTE, THERE WAS NOT SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION, THERE WAS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WENT INTO ANY LENGTH THAT NECESSITATED MORE. I HEAR YOUR MESSAGE. WE'RE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONSUMERS OF THE MINUTES AS IT RELATES HISTORICALLY. I MEAN, WE'RE ALSO KIND OF KEEN TO MAKING SURE WE CAPTURE THOSE CRITICAL ELEMENTS WHEN THE MINUTES WERE PREPARED. UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION FROM MANAGEMENT OR THE ATTORNEY, WE WILL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ISSUES IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE'S DESCENT COME UP CAN BE CAPTURED IN THE MINUTES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING] >> ANYBODY IN AGREEMENT? >> THAT'S THE WAY WE CAN DO THEM, I'M ALL FOR THAT. >> OKAY. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT OR JUST YIELD THAT'S JUST DIRECTION? >> YEAH. I HEARD THE COMMENTS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT. >> THEN SEEING DO WE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 14TH? >> NO. >> NO CORRECTIONS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> FLOOR MOTIONS TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN. >> ANYONE'S SECOND? >> SECOND. >> SECOND BY MARK PENTEL AND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WEISMAN IS DISSENTING. ABSTAINED. I'M SORRY. ABSTAINED. SORRY. >> YOU CAN'T ABSTAIN FROM FIRST OF ALL, ARE THERE EIGHT MEMBER HERE? >> YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] >>WHO IS THE ALTERNATE THAT WOULD NOT BE VOTING? >> RICHARD DUNNING IS THE SECOND ALTERNATE. >> YOU CAN ONLY ABSTAIN IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT, YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON AN ITEM THAT'S BEFORE YOU. >> TAKE THE VOTE AGAIN, SO THAT HE CAN VOTE AYE OR NAY? >> UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER WANTS TO JUST INDICATE THAT HE'S VOTING FOR THEM RATHER THAN ABSTAINING. >> THANK YOU, AND THEN BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ANY OTHER BUSINESS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE JOHN INTRODUCE OUR NEW SECRETARY. >> I THINK EVERYBODY HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INDIVIDUALLY MEET CAROL BASEL, CAROL BASEL'S OUR NEW ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR THE DEPARTMENT, AND SHE'S THE BOARD SECRETARY, AND WE'LL BE COORDINATING ITEMS FOR YOUR AGENDAS AND SERVICING YOUR NEEDS AND QUESTIONS IN THE EVENT THAT I'M NOT AVAILABLE TO DO SO OR OTHER STAFF MEMBERS. WE ALSO DO HAVE ANOTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, SUZANNE STAN, SHE JUST STARTED ON MONDAY, SO SHE'LL BE THE BACKUP. WE'RE CLOSE TO BEING FULLY STAFFED. WE HAVE ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER STARTING IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND NOW WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A GROUP. >> THANK YOU. >> WELCOME. >> WELCOME. >> WELCOME. >> WELCOME. [FOREIGN] MOVING ON, [Items B1 & B2] WE HAVE TWO THINGS FOR JUPITER HOSPITAL MEDICAL CENTER, AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT WE COMBINE THE SIGNS AND THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT, AND I'M ASKING WHAT THE FLAVOR OF THE COMMISSION IS. DO WE WANT TO KEEP THEM SEPARATE AND VOTE SEPARATELY ON EACH ITEM OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE HIS PRESENTATION COMBINED? >> CHAIR WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE SEPARATELY ON THEM. BUT YOU CAN HAVE A COMBINED PRESENTATION, AND AFTER THE PRESENTATION THEN VOTE SEPARATELY ON THE ITEMS. >> THANK YOU. THEN WE WILL [LAUGHTER] GO AHEAD AND LET YOU COMBINE YOUR PRESENTATION. >> SINCE YOU'RE COMBINING THOSE IF YOU WOULD MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE YOUR EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION? [00:10:01] >> YES, WE WILL TAKE EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER FORT. >> YES, I'VE MET WITH THE APPLICANT AND HAD A FAIRLY LENGTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT TWO OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE PET PEEVES OF MINE, THE SIGNAGE, WHICH YAY. I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT AND THE PARKING GARAGE, YAY SO BOTH ITEMS I FELT GOOD ABOUT COMMUNICATE THAT HAD FAIRLY LENGTHY CONVERSATION WITH HIM. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAREN. >> I'VE DROVE THE SITE SEVERAL TIMES AND THEN SPOKE WITH PETER MYERS TODAY. >> COMMISSIONER HAGUE. >> I'VE JUST BEEN TO THE HOSPITAL A LOT, SO NOTHING OTHER THAN THAT. >> COMMISSIONER PINTEL. >> I MET WITH THE APPLICANT. >> AND DISCUSSED? >> DISCUSSED WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING, AND I TOLD THEM ON THE REVIEW WHEN IT COMES BEFORE US. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HILL. >> YES, I CONSULTED WITH PETER MYERS. >> CAN YOU USE THE MIC? >> I CONSULTED WITH PETER MYERS AND JOHN SICKLER AND ALSO WITH THE APPLICANT. OUR MAIN DISCUSSION POINTS WERE PARKING, YAY, SIGNAGE, BIG PLUS, AND LANDSCAPING AROUND THE BORDER OF THE NEW EXPANSION OF THE PARKING GARAGE. >> I DROVE BY SEVERAL TIMES TO TALK WITH PETER ABOUT THIS MATTER ALSO. >> YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES? >> WITH COMMISSIONER HAGUE, I'VE BEEN THERE TOO OFTEN MYSELF. >> I JUST SPOKE TO STEPHANIE SULBORN AND SCOTT THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THE PACKET IN GENERAL AND HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT THEY CLARIFIED FOR ME, BUT I'LL GET INTO THAT LATER DURING OUR QUESTIONS ON THE PACKET. ALREADY, TAKE IT AWAY. >> DO WE HAVE TO SWEAR IN? >> ANYONE GIVING ANY TESTIMONY TODAY? PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS GEORGE MIDSUMMER WITH KOTLER, AND HEARING HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER. AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, WE DO HAVE TWO ITEMS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. I WILL DO A COMBINED PRESENTATION JUST BECAUSE EVERYTHING REALLY FITS TOGETHER, AND THEN AFTERWARDS YOU CAN HAVE TWO SEPARATE VOTES. ALREADY, SO WE'VE HAD THE GREAT PLEASURE WITH WORKING WITH A REALLY TREMENDOUS TEAM. OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HOSPITAL STEVE SEELEY COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT. HE REGRETS IT. HE DID HAVE A VACATION PLANNED SO HE WISHES HE COULD BE HERE, BUT ANY QUESTIONS I'M SURE WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH ANY OF YOU. OUR MANAGING CONSULTANT NORTHSTAR, MAINLY TONY RUEBSAM, WE ARE THE AGENTS AND THE LAND PLANNERS OR RECORD FOR THE PROJECT. KIMLEY HORN IS THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AND THEN THE ARCHITECTS ARE EARL SWENSSON ARCHITECTS, WERE THE SAME ARCHITECTS WHO DESIGNED THE LATEST SURGERY EXPANSION, WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED LATER THIS YEAR, SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. FIRST THING WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS RESOLUTION 29-23, WHICH IS OUR APPLICATION FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE HOSPITAL FOR THE EXPANSION TO CREATE A NEW 135,000 SQUARE FOOT PATIENT BED TOWER WITH APPROXIMATELY 92 PATIENT ROOMS, AS WELL AS THE ADDITION OF A FREESTANDING PARKING STRUCTURE CONTAINING ABOUT 845 PARKING SPACES. THE OTHER ITEM IS ORDINANCE 6-23, WHICH IS A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION WITHIN THE MEDICAL CENTER SIGNAGE CODE RELATING TO SPECIFIC SIGN DIMENSIONS, CRITERIA, AS WELL AS QUANTITIES. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANTED TO START BY JUST OVERVIEW OF THE SITE LOCATION. I KNOW WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE HOSPITAL LOCATED JUST WEST OF ALTERNATE A1A AND DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTH OF JUPITER LAKES BOULEVARD AND SOUTH OF TONY PANET. JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB IN INVESTING IN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN CONTROL THE FUTURE OF THE MEDICAL CENTER AND PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE PATIENT CARE AND FLEXIBILITY WITH WHAT THEY DO IN THE FUTURE PROVIDING THE STATE-OF-THE-ART TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO RECRUIT THE BEST MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. BEING A COMMUNITY MEDICAL CENTER, THEY ARE NOT FOR PROFIT, [00:15:04] SO A LOT OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS IN THEIR MAJOR EXPANSIONS HAS BEEN ENTIRELY DEPENDENT UPON THE GENEROSITY OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE DONATIONS THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED, AND IT'S REALLY BEEN WONDERFUL FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER IN EXPANDING THIS MEDICAL CENTER. SOME OF THE MOST RECENT PROJECTS, AGAIN, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW, THE COMPLETED NEONATAL INTENSIVE CARE UNIT, THE COMPLETED CANCER INSTITUTE, MRI EXPANSION, THE DEGEORGE EXPANSION, OUR SURGICAL INSTITUTE, TWO EMERGENCY ROOM EXPANSIONS AS WELL AS AN EXPANSION TO THE CENTRAL ENERGY PLANT WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THINKING ABOUT THE NEXT PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE HOSPITAL, THE BIGGEST FACTOR WAS THE NUMBER OF PATIENT BEDS, AND SO THERE'S BEEN ONGOING LONG-RANGE PLANNING FOR THE HOSPITAL AND PROVIDING THAT NEXT LEVEL FOR THE HOSPITAL AND INCREASING THE CAPACITY, AND THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, I REALLY SHOWED THAT THE HOSPITAL NEEDED MORE PATIENT BEDS. IT'S BEEN A CRITICAL ITEM SO THIS PROJECT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN ADVANCED IN SCHEDULE BY SEVERAL YEARS. I WASN'T INTENDED FOR THIS PROJECT TO GET STARTED FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THE HOSPITAL HAS JUST BEEN AT CAPACITY WITH THE NUMBER OF PATIENT BEDS THAT THEY'VE HAD SO IT'S BEEN A NECESSITY TO BRING THIS PROJECT FORWARD SOONER THAN EXPECTED. AS PART OF THAT LONG-RANGE PLAN, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE NEW PATIENT TOWER WOULD EXTEND FROM THE HOSPITAL IN THIS LOCATION ON THE EASTERN SIDE. IT IS LOGICAL BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY FOR CIRCULATION OF THE HOSPITAL, AND THE PARKING STRUCTURE WAS BEST SUITED TO FIT IN THIS LOCATION, IT PROVIDED THE OPTIMUM DESIGN OF THAT STRUCTURE IN TERMS OF CIRCULATION. WE ALL KNOW HOW MUCH WE DON'T LIKE NARROW PARKING STRUCTURES THAT ARE HARD TO MANEUVER AROUND WITH SPEED RAMPS AND SUCH. THIS PARKING STRUCTURE HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO REALLY HAVE A LOGICAL FLOW WHICH IS COMFORTABLE FOR PATIENTS COMING TO THE HOSPITAL AND VISITORS. AS I SPOKE EARLIER, THIS EXPANSION IS ABOUT 135,000 SQUARE FEET WITH 92 NEW PATIENT ROOMS. ADDITIONAL PATIENTS SUPPORT FACILITIES SUCH AS PHARMACY, NEW ADMINISTRATION OFFICES, IMPROVED INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR CIRCULATION AND ACCESS, AND THEN THE ADDITION OF A NEW PARKING STRUCTURE, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT. ANOTHER ITEM, THE HEALING GARDEN IS BEING RELOCATED. CURRENTLY, IT'S TUCKED BEHIND AND NEXT TO THE NICU. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO ACCESS BOTH FOR EMPLOYEES AND FOR PATIENTS, SO MOVING IT AND EXPANDING IT TO THE SOUTH HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A BIT LARGER AND MUCH MORE EASY TO ACCESS FOR VISITORS, PATIENTS, AND EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS THAT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE'VE ARTICULATED THAT SPACE. NOW LOOKING AT ACCESS, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE NEW PATIENT TOWER CLOSES OFF THAT NORTH-SOUTH DRIVE. THAT WAS DONE VERY INTENTIONALLY IN THE RECENT YEARS AND REALLY FOREVER IT'S BEEN A BIT OF A SAFETY HAZARD, BUT EVEN MORE NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AS YOU'RE COMING INTO THE HOSPITAL, THAT IS OUR MAIN ENTRANCE FOR VISITORS. CREATING THIS NEW STRUCTURE HAS ALLOWED US TO BE MUCH MORE INTENTIONAL WITH HOW WE SECTION OFF THE PARKING AREAS, AS WELL AS DIRECTING PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE HOSPITAL TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. THIS IS OUR MAIN VISITOR ENTRANCE, AND IT HAS ALLOWED US TO REALLY DEDICATE THIS NEW PARKING FACILITY FOR VISITORS AND PHYSICIAN PARKING. WHEN A VISITOR COMES TO THE HOSPITAL, THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE DIRECTED TO, THIS IS WHERE THEIR GPS IS GOING TO TAKE THEM. IT'S WHERE THE PRIMARY ADDRESS FOR THE HOSPITAL IS. THEY COULD ENTER THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THEY COULD PULL UP AND COMPLIMENTARY VALET THEIR CAR IN THE PARKING STRUCTURE, OR THEY COULD JUST SELF PARK. THERE IS A SMALL NUMBER OF SECURED PHYSICIAN PARKING SPACES ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THAT PARKING STRUCTURE, WHICH IS TOWARDS THE EAST SIDE. IT'S NOT THE MOST ACCESSIBLE PARKING, IT'S NOT THE MOST CONVENIENT PARKING, BUT IT IS COVERED FOR THE DOCTORS. TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE OUR CANCER CENTER AND OUTPATIENT PARKING. WHEN A PATIENT IS SCHEDULED FOR AN APPOINTMENT AT THE HOSPITAL FOR AN OUTPATIENT PROCEDURE, THEY WOULD BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE SOUTH ENTRANCE. THEN WE HAVE OUR PRIMARY EMERGENCY ACCESS ROUTES TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM LOCATED IN THE BACK OF THE HOSPITAL WITH THE EMERGENCY ROOM PARKING. MOVING INTO THE PARKING NUMBERS. I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION WITH THESE EXPANSIONS. OUR EXISTING PARKING PER THE LATEST APPROVED PLAN WAS FOR 1,251 SPACES. [00:20:06] OUR NEW PROPOSED TOTAL WITH THE ADDITION OF THE GARAGE INCREASES THAT BY ABOUT 500. NET INCREASE OF ABOUT 500 SPACES FOR 1,794. WE HAVE A PROPOSED 4,388 SPACES, SO NEARLY DOUBLE ACTUALLY WHAT'S REQUIRED IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF ADA SPACES BUT WE FEEL THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. GETTING INTO SOME OF THE SIGNAGE. THIS IS A MAP OF THE EXISTING SIGNAGE WHICH WAS PART OF THE PACKET THAT YOU HAD RECEIVED. HERE IS OUR PROPOSED AN EXISTING SIGNAGE FOR WHAT THE ULTIMATE LOOK OF THAT SIGNAGE IS GOING TO BE. WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD WITH STAFF ON THIS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS TO GET THESE SIGNS APPROVED. THERE ARE PERMITS IN PLACE AND SIGNS HAVE BEGUN TO GO IN THE GROUND. THIS IS AN ONGOING PROJECT AND SIGNAGE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO POP UP AROUND THE HOSPITAL SO WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO SEVERAL SIGNS. FIRST, THE MAIN ENTRANCE SIGN, IT'S AN EXISTING SIGN THAT WAS MODIFIED WITH THE LAST APPROVAL FOR A NEW MANAGEMENT SIGN, WHICH IS MUCH MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOSPITAL, JUST TO REFLECT ITS EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE OLD CODE REFERENCED A MUCH SMALLER SIGN WHICH WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING. THE NEXT THING THAT WAS IN REFERENCE TO WAS THE HOSPITAL IDENTIFICATION SIGNS, SPECIFICALLY THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT. THEY WERE REQUIRED TO BE 50 FEET UP THE BUILDING AS AT A MINIMUM, THEY COULDN'T BE ANY LOWER, WHICH WITH NEW HOSPITAL EXPANSIONS CAN LIMIT BOTH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AS WELL AS PLACEMENT OF THE SIGN AND REALLY CONFINES IT, SO PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT OF WHERE THAT SIGN IS LOCATED. NEXT, PROVIDING TEXTS SPECIFIC TO SIGNAGE ON PARKING STRUCTURES, SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE MEDICAL CENTER. MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS REFERENCED IN THAT THERE WAS SOME GUIDELINES ON WHAT THE SIGNAGE COULD BE ON PARKING STRUCTURES. THEN FINALLY, A STAFF INITIATED AMENDMENT WAS ADDED FOR CLARIFICATION IN THE NUMBER OF DIRECTIONAL SIGNS AROUND HOSPITAL. HERE'S A QUICK VIEW OF SOME OF THOSE SIGNS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO BE INSTALLED AROUND THE HOSPITAL. HERE'S A QUICK RENDERING THAT WAS DONE. THIS IS LOOKING TO THE SOUTH, NEXT TO THE GEORGE. YOU CAN SEE THE NEW PARKING STRUCTURE THERE. IT HAS AN ENTRANCE AT THAT NORTHWEST CORNER. A VERY CONVENIENT ACCESS POINT. THEN A MASSING RENDERING TO SHOW HOW THESE NEW ADDITIONS FIT WITH THE HOSPITAL. THEY ARE VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING HEIGHT OF THE MAIN TOWER OF THE HOSPITAL IN THE NICU. THE GARAGE IS OBVIOUSLY MUCH SHORTER, BUT IN THIS RENDERING DOES NOT REFLECT THE LANDSCAPING. WE'LL GET INTO LANDSCAPING A LITTLE BIT LATER. HERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE [NOISE] RECENT RENDERING THAT WAS DONE. YOU CAN REALLY START TO SEE HOW THIS ARCHITECTURE BLENDS IN WITH THE LATEST ADDITIONS REALLY WONDERFUL NEW ADDITION TO THE HOSPITAL IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND MATERIALITY. HERE'S A VIEW OF THAT SOUTH ENTRANCE OF THAT GARAGE. FROM THAT POINT, IT WOULD LEAD YOU DIRECTLY TO THE RAMP STRAIGHT UP. VERY CONVENIENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY SHARP TURNS AS YOU ENTER THE GARAGE. YOU ENTER AND YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT UP TO A HIGHER FLOOR. HERE IS A COLOR SITE PLAN SHOWING YOU SOME OF THAT LANDSCAPING. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE. THIS GRAPHIC REPRESENTS A 40 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT BUILDING SETBACK 50 FEET. THAT WAS PART OF THE CONDITIONS, IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE DOCUMENTS REFLECTED THAT 50 FEET SETBACK. WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR DESIRE TO POTENTIALLY MODIFY THE CODE OR REQUEST A VARIANCE IN THE FUTURE TO ALLOW A 40 FOOT SETBACK OF THAT GARAGE. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. AGAIN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT. WE'RE JUST WANTING TO BRING THAT FORWARD AS TESTING THE WATERS ON THAT, AND THE MAIN REASON IS TO PRESERVE PARKING. THERE IS PARKING ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE GARAGE, THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT COULD NOT BE PRESERVED IF WE MOVE IT TO THE 50 FEET. HERE'S THE EXISTING BUFFER ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE [00:25:03] PRESERVING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT SO LARGE CANOPY OAK TREES. WE'RE ALSO ENHANCING PROVIDING EVEN MORE LANDSCAPING BEHIND IT AS PART OF THAT 50 FEET. HERE ARE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS OF THAT HEALING GARDEN THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT. AGAIN, JUST A VERY TRANQUIL ENVIRONMENT FOR BOTH PATIENTS AND EMPLOYEES AND VISITORS, UTILIZING CANOPY COVERAGE AND NICE LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS SOME WATER FEATURES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LARGE OAK TREES WITHIN THE EXISTING PARKING FIELD THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO RELOCATE BOTH AROUND THE NEW BUILDINGS AS WELL AS IN SOME OF THE SURROUNDING BUFFERS. ALL OF THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT ARE GOOD RELOCATED OPTIONS HAVE BEEN SELECTED AND THEY WILL BE RELOCATED. THERE ARE A FEW LARGE OAK TREES THAT UNFORTUNATELY ARE NOT GOOD CANDIDATES FOR RELOCATION DUE TO STRUCTURAL INSTABILITY OR JUST OVERALL QUALITY. THOSE TREES WILL BE REMOVED. NOW GETTING INTO, LET ME BACK UP A SECOND I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON A POINT HERE. THE PHASING OF CONSTRUCTION IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORK WITH STAFF ON AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT THAT WOULD BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IS THE PATIENT TOWER. THAT TOWER WOULD BE STARTED LATER THIS YEAR. ONCE THE PARKING ON THE SOUTH END OF CAMPUS OPENS UP, WE NEED TO MAINTAIN ADEQUATE PARKING ON THE CAMPUS AT ALL TIMES. THERE IS AN OVERLAP OF SOME CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, BUT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN PARKING. THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THE PATIENT TOWER, WHICH WILL TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE. THE PARKING STRUCTURE DOESN'T TAKE QUITE AS LONG, SO THAT WON'T BE STARTED FOR A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT. SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. WE ARE REQUESTING THE REMOVAL OF THE CONDITION REQUIRING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE TO BE PLANTED ALONG THIS PORTION OF OLD DIXIE, WHICH IS A TOWN ON RIDER WAY. WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE REQUEST TO PLANT THIS ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING OFF THE PROPERTY. AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING A COMMUNITY HOSPITAL NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION. THESE EXPANSIONS ARE FUNDED THROUGH DONATIONS AS WELL AS LOANS. ADDING TOO MUCH ADDITIONAL COST TO THE PROJECT CAN INHIBIT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE SOME OF THESE ENHANCEMENTS WITHIN THE MEDICAL FACILITY. ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO A CONDITION THAT WAS PRESENTED AS PART OF RESOLUTION 4-21, WHICH STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF AND HAS PROVIDED A TIMETABLE FOR WHEN THAT CONDITION COULD BE NULL AND VOID. HOWEVER, THE CONDITION STATES THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GARAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETED IN TWO YEARS. WE FEEL THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TIGHT IN THE TIMELINE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE FAST-TRACK THIS AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT WE FEEL THE WAY THE CONDITION IS WRITTEN CURRENTLY, WE MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF MODIFICATION AT LEAST TO THE TIMETABLE TO EXTEND IT OUT TO MAYBE 52 OR 60 MONTHS. NOT TOO MUCH, BUT JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE WIGGLE ROOM. AS PART OF THIS, WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO CONDITION 7B OF RESOLUTION 4-21, WHICH JUST TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF THE PROPERTY ALONG TONY PENA FOR TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, MAINLY STAGING OF CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW PATIENT BED TOWER AND GARAGE CONTINUE. THAT TEMPORARY LOT IS SHOWN HERE. ANOTHER CONDITION REQUIRES US TO PROVIDE AN EXHIBIT SHOWING THE FUTURE ACCESS POINTS ALONG TONY PENA. WE WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU TONIGHT JUST BRIEFLY TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT EXTENSIVELY AT THE FUTURE EXPANSIONS AND MODIFICATIONS OF THE CAMPUS. THESE ARE HIGHLY CONCEPTUAL, BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU, WE HAVE THOUGHT OUT THESE FUTURE ACCESS POINTS AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING THAT AS PART OF THE FINAL PLANS, JUST AS A CONTEXT FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR TONIGHT. I'M SURE THERE'S SOME THINGS I MISSED SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM SCOTT THATCHER FROM THE TOWN PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. >> JUST TO BE NOTED, STAFF WILL NOT BE COMBINING A PRESENTATION, SO WE'LL HAVE ONE FOR THE SIGNAGE AND WE'LL BE HAVING ONE FOR THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION. [00:30:06] >> GOOD EVENING. ONCE AGAIN, SCOTT THATCHER WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. FOR YOUR CONSIDERATIONS TODAY ARE THREE CHANGES THE SIGN CODE PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT. AS THE APPLICANT ALREADY MENTIONED, THE FIRST ONE IS TO MODIFY THE HOSPITAL IDENTIFICATION SIGN. THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE TAUGHT A HIGHER UP IN THE BUILDINGS SPECIFICALLY AT 50 FEET. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THAT TO 30 FEET. THE SIGN CODE. THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING TO INCREASE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A FREESTANDING MONUMENT SIGN. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO INCREASE IT FROM 32 SQUARE FEET TO 70 SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A NEW TYPE OF SIGN FOR PARKING GARAGES. WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS UTILIZE OUR EXISTING PAT WALL SIGN REGULATIONS AND ALLOW THEM TO BE PLACED ON PARKING GARAGES. GIVEN THAT THE GARAGE WILL BE A PROMINENT LOCATION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO FIND THE ENTRANCES TO THE HOSPITAL. IN ADDITION WITH STAFF, STAFF WAS REVIEWING THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT. STAFF IS PROPOSING TO CREATE A NEW SIGN CATEGORY TO BE CALLED A FREESTANDING DIRECTORY SIGN. IF YOU NOTICED ON THE MASTER SIGN PLAN, THERE WAS LOCATIONS OF DIRECTORIES SIGNS THROUGHOUT. THAT OCCURRED BECAUSE IN 1992, THE HOSPITAL RECEIVED A VARIANCE FROM THE TOWN TO PERMIT SEVEN FREESTANDING DIRECTORY SIGNS IN ADDITION TO THE ONE THEY ALREADY HAD ON THE SITE FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT. BECAUSE VARIANCE IS APPROVALS ARE TYPICALLY SIGNS, INDICATORS OF THE CODE NEEDING TO BE MODIFIED OR UPDATED, STAFF DECIDED TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW. UNDER THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN, THERE'LL BE A TOTAL OF NINE FREESTANDING DIRECTORY SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY. STAFF NOTES THE CODE REQUIRES A MASTER'S SIGN PLAN TO BE SUBMITTED AND IS UNDER CURSORY VIEW WITH THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU. SINCE THE TOWN CODE APPLIES TO ALL MEDICAL CENTER ZONE DISTRICTS. THE ACTUAL SIGN PLAN IS UNDER CURSORY REVIEW WITH THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR THE PATIENT TOWER IN THE GARAGE. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ON THE PAGE LABELED SHEET 1 IS THE EXISTING SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY. ON SHEET 2 IS THE PROPOSED SIGNS [NOISE] AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO SHEET 3, IT'S ALL THE SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT IN THE SIGN PACKET, SOME SIGNS ARE NOTED AS PROPOSED. HOWEVER, THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICANTS CAN CLARIFY WHICH SIGNS THOSE ARE. IF THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN HEARD TONIGHT IS APPROVED AT A LATER DATE, THE MASTER SIGN PLAN WILL BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. THE SAME PLAN HAS BEEN PROVED TWICE BEFORE, AND THIS WILL BE THE THIRD MODIFICATION OF THAT PLAN. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PETER MYER TO DISCUSS THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION. >> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, PETER MYER, SENIOR PLANNER STAFF. THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CONSTRUCT A MAJOR EXPANSION TO ADD A FIVE STORY, 135,000 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO THE FOUR PATIENT TOWER AND A FIVE LEVEL PARKING GARAGE ON A NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE HOSPITAL CAMPUS. AS PART OF REQUESTS, THE EXISTING ALBIN BUILDING USED FOR [INAUDIBLE] OFFICES WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND A TEMPORARY MODULAR BUILDING USED FOR VOLUNTEERS WILL BE REMOVED. WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOSPITAL PROPERTY. IT WAS DISCOVERED TODAY THAT NOT ALL PAGES OR THE EXHIBIT CONDITIONS WERE PROVIDED IN THE PACKAGE TO THE COMMISSION. AS WE HAD EMAILED AS WELL TO YOU AND THEN PROVIDED YOU ON A DIOCESE THOSE CONDITIONS. BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS IN THAT EXHIBIT SINCE YOU JUST RECEIVED IT TODAY. CONDITION NUMBER 4, JUST MODIFYING CONDITION 7B OF RESOLUTION 4-21 TO EXTEND THE TIME FRAME OR THE REMOVAL OF THE TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION PARKING LOT ALONG TONY PENA. SINCE THAT PARKING LOTS STILL NEEDED FOR CONSTRUCTION PARKING FOR A NEW EXPANSIONS PROPOSED FOR TONIGHT. CONDITION 5, WHICH MODIFIES CONDITION 8 OF RESOLUTION 4-21, [00:35:02] TO NOT REQUIRE THE TWO PARKING STUDIES TO BE DONE IF THE PARKING GARAGE IS CONSTRUCTED WITHIN TWO YEARS FROM TOWN COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. TO BE CLEAR, IF THE GARAGE IS CONSTRUCTED, PARKING STAGE WILL NOT BE COMPLETED, NOT REQUIRED TO BE PERFORMED. MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY DON'T REQUIRE THAT. [INAUDIBLE] HAD MENTIONED ABOUT EXTENDED TIME-FRAME. THIS IS SOMETHING WE WILL TAKE UNDER REVIEW AND CONSULT WITH THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD DO AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL. QUESTION 6, WAS REGARDS TO REQUIRING THAT THE OWNER CONSTRUCT THE FEATURE VEHICLE CONNECTIONS WITH ACCESS ROADWAYS CONNECTING TO THE HOSPITAL CAMPUS TO [INAUDIBLE] PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY FUTURE COS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES IN JUPITER MICHAEL PARK. PARCELS ARE OWNED BY JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH HAS BEEN SHOWN IN ATTACHMENT B, IN THE REPORT THAT SHOWS THEM IN RED, THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE HOSPITAL. THEN QUESTION 7A, AS GEORGE, AND MR. KACH SHOWN ACQUIRED A CONTEXT PLAN TO BE PROVIDED THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE FEATURE IF YOU LOOK AT CONNECTIONS THAT ARE SHOWN IN ATTACHMENT B, WHICH IS JUST SOME ARROWS ON THAT ATTACHMENT THAT SHOWED THOSE TWO LOCATIONS FOR FEATURE CONNECTIONS TO THE NORTH. QUESTION 8B REQUIRES THAT THE AREA BETWEEN AN EAST SIDE OF THE GARAGE AND THE SIDEWALK ALONG OLD DIXIE BE PLANTED AS A BILE SWELL. THIS WOULD HELP TO REDUCE THE MASSIVE SCALE. THE GARAGE WITH TOLERANT NATIVE PALMS AND TREES AND LOWER-LEVEL PLANTINGS. CONDITION 8B REQUIRES APPROXIMATELY 330 FEET RIGHT AWAY ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF OLD DIXIE BE PLANTED WITH THE BAHIA SOD SIMPLE PALMS AND SLASH PINES AND SAW PALMETTO. SINCE THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOSPITAL AS YOU'RE DRIVING SOUTH ON OLD DIXIE. IT WILL IMPROVE THE VIEW OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOSPITAL AND PROVIDE SOME SHADE TO THE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD. AS INDICATED THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED BY THE APP YET FOR THIS CONDITION, AND SUDDENLY WE WILL HAVE TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL, AND THEN THE CONDITION THAT WE ALSO ADDED WAS 11A WHICH ACQUIRES THE PARKING GARAGE BE CONSTRUCTED AND ISSUE WITH CO BEFORE THE PATIENT TOWER CAN BE ISSUED A CO. AS THAT PATIENT TOWER DOES REQUIRE THE SPACES IN THE GARAGE TO MEET THE COAT. THEN EFFICIENT 11D WAS THE CONDITION REGARDS TO ADDING WATER MAINS THROUGHOUT THE HOSPITAL CAMPUS, ENSURE THAT THE PROPOSED EXPANSION WILL NOT IMPACT EXISTS THE OWN LEVEL OF WATER SERVICE, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION WITH THE CONDITIONS OF EXHIBIT 1, AND CONTINGENT UPON THE RECEIPT OF THE APPROVED TRAFFIC CURRENCY LETTER FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY, LIKE TO SAVE YOU FROM YOUR TIME FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. BEFORE I OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, THE ISSUES THAT I HAD WITH THE PACKET THAT I SPOKE WITH STEPHANIE SOBERT AND SCOTT THATCHER THIS MORNING. THIS AFTERNOON WAS THAT THE SITE PLAN PACKET IS VERY HARD TO READ. THERE'S A LOT OF VERY SMALL PRINT AND I COULDN'T READ IT. A LOT OF THE LEGENDS ON THE SITE PLANS ARE UNREADABLE. THERE'S A MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE SITE WHICH SHOWS IT ON ALTERNATE A1A BETWEEN DONALD ROSS AND INDIANTOWN ROAD, WHICH IS INACCURATE. EVEN IN THE STATEMENT OF USE. SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED WERE VERY SMALL PRINT AND VERY HARD TO READ. I'M BLIND AND I HAD TO TAKE MY GLASSES OFF AND HOLD THE PAPER LIKE THIS, WHICH IS NO WAY TO EXAMINE A APPLICATION. THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD SAY THAT IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE US WITH MATERIALS THAT WE CAN READ AND SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCURATELY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON A SITE PLAN BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THIS APPLICATION. BUT I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE [INAUDIBLE]. YES, SIR. >> JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR COMMENT AND WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PACKETS ARE MUCH MORE READABLE. >> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR GROOMS? >> YES. >> WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN? BECAUSE WE FEEL SOME OF US MIGHT FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING THE JOB THAT WE ARE APPOINTED TO DO BECAUSE WE CAN'T READ THE MATERIAL, WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL WE PROVIDED MATERIALS THAT WE CAN READ? >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT MR. HEARING. >> YEAH AND FOR THE RECORD, [00:40:01] IT IS CRITICAL THAT THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD. >> UNDERSTOOD. BUT YOU DIDN'T GIVE US A PACKET THAT I CAN [INAUDIBLE]. >> THE APPLICANT DID WITH THE APPLICANT WAS REQUIRED TO DO SO THAT THE DOCUMENTS ARE PROVIDED DIGITALLY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THEY'RE PRINTED AT A SMALLER SCALE, 11 BY 17, YOU CAN'T READ IT UNLESS YOU SEE IT DIGITALLY. THE APPLICANT DID ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO DO. BUT FROM A SCHEDULING STANDPOINT AND FROM A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE, IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE INTO ENGINEERING FOR BUILDING PERMITS. AGAIN, MR. SEALY AND THE FOLKS FROM JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER CAN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT IT WOULD BE VERY MUCH SO DETRIMENTAL TO THIS PROJECT. I CAN EXPRESS AS MUCH, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT, AND I'LL LEAVE THIS TO MR. SACKLER. WE DON'T PRINT THE DOCUMENTS FOR YOU. EVERYTHING IS DONE ELECTRONICALLY AND WE'RE HAPPY IN THE FUTURE TO GIVE YOU 24 BY 36 FULL-SIZE PLANS. BUT WHAT WE DID, WE FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR STAFF AND OF YOUR CODE. IT REALLY WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR OTHER PEOPLE. >> I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU FOLLOWED THE LETTER OF THE LAW ON THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS SHOULD BE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN READ, HONESTLY. >> WE DON'T MIND PROVIDING IT DIFFERENTLY. BUT THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN DO IS TO FOLLOW THE RULES THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS, AND WE CALLED EACH OF YOU AND OFFERED TO MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE MR. SEALY WAS OUT OF TOWN. BUT AS MR. SACKLER WOULD TELL YOU, EVERYTHING'S AVAILABLE ELECTRONICALLY WHERE YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY BLOW IT UP AND DO IT DIFFERENTLY. BUT AGAIN, IF THE TOWN WANTS TO CHANGE THE POLICY, THAT'S FINE. BUT TO POSTPONE US WHEN WE FOLLOW THE RULES AND THE REGULATIONS FOR THE HEARING IT WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THE HOSPITAL. >> I WILL ALSO SAY THAT, YES, YOU DID OFFER TO MEET WITH US, ME IN PARTICULAR. BUT THE TOP MEETING TIMES DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE BUSINESS DAY AND I WORKED FOR A LIVING. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING OR TWO O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON. >> YOU NEED TO BE AVAILABLE TO MEET ANYTIME. >> WELL, THAT BEING SAID. COMMISSIONER. >> I THINK WHAT THE STAFF SAY ABOUT THIS AS FAR AS THIS, TYPICALLY, WHAT WE GET IS THIS THE PRODUCT THAT WE SHOULD BE SEEING? IS THERE ANY REGRESSOR THIS MATTER OR WHAT? >> WE DO NOT PRINT THESE MATERIALS. THESE MATERIALS ARE PRINTED BY THE APPLICANT OR THEIR CONSULTANTS AND THEY'RE SUBMITTED TO US FOR DISTRIBUTION TO THE COMMISSION. THEY SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY'RE PRINTING THEM IN REDUCING THEM TO SCALE, THAT THEY ARE ILLEGIBLE. WE DO NOT PRESCRIBE A CERTAIN FONT SIZE AS A MATTER OF REQUIREMENT. BUT I THINK THIS ISSUE HAS COME UP BEFORE. I KNOW I HAVE CONVEYED TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, ALWAYS LET US KNOW THAT WE WILL MAKE BEST EFFORTS TO EITHER PROVIDE YOU WITH A LARGER SCALE COPY COORDINATE WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT, OR TO SEND YOU EMAILS OF THE PDF SO YOU CAN REVIEW THEM ELECTRONICALLY AT ANY SCALE YOU CHOOSE. >> AS YOU KNOW, I DID NOT GET MY APPLICATION AND MY PACKET ON TIME, BUT THIS IS SUBMITTED, CAN'T READ. THIS IS READABLE, BUT THEN YOU GET INTO THIS. CAN'T READ IT. CAN'T READ IT. CAN'T READ IT. CAN'T READ IT. THAT'S MY ISSUES. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. >> [INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY. >> WHAT'S THE [INAUDIBLE] MOTION ON THE FORUM? IF YOU WANT TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FORUM IN A SECOND, YOU CAN DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO POSTPONE IT. >> HE MADE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE APPLICATION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SEEING NONE, THE MOTION FAILS. WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER FORD DO YOU WANT TO START? >> YEAH, AND I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN READ. I HAVE BEFORE REQUESTED THE PDFS AND YOU CAN GET THE PDFS AND I THINK THAT'S A SUPERIOR WAY FOR ALL OF US TO LOOK AT THEM AS PDFS. YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON IT AT ANY SIZE THAT YOU WANT AND THEN FOR ME IS THE SAME THING WHEN I DID TAKE PICTURES OF IT AND ZOOM IN THE PICTURES. WHICH IS CRAZY WAY TO DO IT. >> YES AND IT IS CRAZY. >> THE PDF [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S UNACCEPTABLE IS WHAT IT IS. >> THE PDFS THE WAY TO GO. JUST REQUEST A PDF AND GET THE PDF OF THE FILE. >> THEN THEY REQUEST A PACKET THAT I CAN READ, [00:45:01] BUT THAT'S OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> I'M ALL FOR ELECTRONIC. INSTEAD OF WASTING THIS STUFF, THIS IS A WASTE IN MY MIND. THE PDF IS THE WAY TO GO, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN ONTO THE OTHER OBJECTS THAT MATTERS BEFORE US. I GUESS FOR THE APPLICANT. I'LL START OFF WITH THE APPLICANT. THE TIMING OF IT IS SUCH THAT YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE GARAGE SEAL DONE BEFORE THE TOWERS SEAL IS REQUESTED. >> THEY WILL GRADUALLY SEALED BEFORE TARGETS CEO GETS. >> THAT'S I THINK THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE. NOW THE LANDSCAPE ZONING THAT BUFFERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HE'S ONLY EAST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY OR EAST SIDE OF THE PARKING GARAGE? >> EAST SIDE OF THE PARKING GARAGE WAS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO IN MY PRESENTATION. >> BUT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY. >> ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD STILL ON THE HOSPITAL PROPERTY. >> IT IS HOSPITAL BECAUSE YOU WERE MENTIONING OFF CAMPUS LANDSCAPING. WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> THERE IS A CONDITION WHERE THE STAFF IS REQUESTING LANDSCAPE OFF OF OUR PROPERTY IN THE TOWNS RIGHT AWAY THAT WE'RE REJECTING THAT WERE OPPOSED TO I SHOULD SAY, THAT WE'RE ASKING THAT CONDITION BE REMOVED FROM THE APPROVAL. >> WHERE EXACTLY IS THAT? >> THAT'S LOCATED TO THE NORTH EAST. IT'S ALONG THE RAILROAD. >> IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF? >> IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF DIXIE. HERE WHERE I HAVE THE HIGHLIGHTED THE BOX. >> IT'S NOT UP ON THE SCREEN. >> THERE WE GO. THERE WHERE THAT BOX IS, WHICH IS NORTHEAST OF THE AREA WHERE OUR IMPROVEMENTS ARE, WHICH IS ON THE MAIN HOSPITAL PROPERTY HERE. >> BUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD. >> BUT ON THE EAST SIDE WITHIN THE TOWNS RIGHT AWAY. [NOISE] THE 50-FOOT SETBACK VERSUS THE 40-FOOT SETBACK IS THAT NOT AN ISSUE FOR TONIGHT? >> CORRECT. IT'S MORE OF A DISCUSSION POINT FOR TOWN COUNCIL AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT AS WELL FOR THE TIMING OF THIS PROJECT, IT WAS CRITICAL THAT WE MOVE FORWARD. WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO MEET THE 50-FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS WHAT THE PLAN IS TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT. THE ITEM ABOUT THE 40-FOOT VERSUS THE 50-FOOT IS JUST PURELY DISCUSSION, JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD SO THAT IT CAN BE CONTINUED TO BE DISCUSSED. BECAUSE IF WE CAN PRESERVE THAT PARKING, WE'D LIKE TO BECAUSE THE 50-FOOT SETBACK REMOVES A LITTLE OVER 20 PARKING SPACES FROM THE SITE. >> THE HEALING GARDEN AREA, HOW MANY BENCHES ARE YOU PLANNING IN THAT AREA? >> QUITE A FEW. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> IT DIDN'T LOOK MANY FROM THE RENDERING LIKE FOUR MAYBE IS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF A RENDERING? >> IT COULD BE. WE ARE PROPOSING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SEATING OPTIONS IN THAT AREA, BOTH IN THE GARDEN ITSELF AS WELL AS AGAINST THE BUILDING. SOME OF ALL THAT MIGHT NOT BE EXPRESSED. THERE'S ALSO AREAS THAT WE COULD ADD BENCHES CERTAINLY IF I WAS. >> I THINK FOUR IS INADEQUATE. MAYBE A DOZEN WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE APPROPRIATE. >> NOTED. >> GREAT. HAD YOU CONSIDERED ANY TYPE OF LEAVING A WALL ON YOUR GARAGE STRUCTURE? THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN HIDE THE FACT THAT THERE'S CARS PARKED IN THERE. DID YOU CONSIDER ANY OPTIONS? >> IT SEEMS THAT IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT IS DISCUSSED WHEN WE WE'RE PLANNING A GARAGE. I'LL JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS HERE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE GARAGE. THE SIZE OF THE GARAGE WAS CRITICAL IN HOW WE DESIGN THE EXTERIOR. WHEN YOU'RE PLACING A RAMP TOWARDS THE SIDES OF A GARAGE, YOU TEND TO SEE THOSE ANGLED LINES OF WHERE THE RAMP IS, WHICH CAN THROW OFF ANY AESTHETIC THAT YOU MIGHT TRY TO DESIGN IT LOOK MORE LIKE A BUILDING VERSUS A PARKING STRUCTURE. WE DESIGNED A RAMP INTERNAL TO THE GARAGE SO ALL OF THE LINES EXTERIOR, HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL. WE ARE PROVIDING A LOT OF LANDSCAPE TO THE EXTERIOR PORTIONS OF THAT GARAGE TO SCREEN IT. THE IDEA OF ADDING A LIVING WALL, ONE COST OF INSTALLATION ON A LIVING WALL ON A GARAGE OF THIS SIZE IS PRETTY ASTRONOMICAL AS WELL AS ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND THE TENDENCY FOR THEM TO NOT LOOK VERY GOOD AFTER A NUMBER OF YEARS. THERE'S A FEW EXAMPLES TO WHERE IT'S BEEN DONE SUCCESSFULLY, BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT AGAIN ON A GARAGE OF THIS SIZE. WE CHOSE TO DO THIS AESTHETICALLY SCREENING IT WITH LARGE MATURE CANOPY OF TREES AND PALM TREES ON THE SITE. >> BUT I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, THERE IS NO RENDERING OF THAT RIGHT NOW THAT SHOWS THE LANDSCAPING. >> WE DON'T HAVE ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY SHOWS ACCURATE LANDSCAPING ON THAT SIDE, I CAN SHOW YOU THE IMAGES OF THE EXISTING TREES THAT WE HAVE. [00:50:04] >> I SAW THOSE WITH THE POWER LINES IN FRONT OF THEM. YOU GUYS CONSIDER BEARING IN ANY OF THE POWER LINES? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, POTENTIALLY SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. BUT AGAIN, WITH THE FOCUS BEING PUT ON THE MEDICAL ENHANCEMENTS TO THE HOSPITAL AND PROVIDING THE BEST PATIENT CARE IT HASN'T BEEN A CRITICAL PATH. >> YOUR POWERS PRODUCED ONSITE WHEN NECESSARY FOR STORM SO THAT'S NOT REALLY THAT BIG A DEAL, I GUESS? >> CORRECT. WE HAVE COMPLETE POWER REDUNDANCY IN THE NEW CP. >> I GUESS THAT'S IT FOR YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU THOUGH. THE VOLUNTEER BUILDING THAT YOU'RE SCRAPPING, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH THE DISPLACED VOLUNTEERS? >> THEY'LL BE SPACES IN THE NEW EDITION FOR THE VOLUNTEERS. >> DEDICATED TO VOLUNTEERS. >> YES, WE STILL NEED THEM AND EVEN MORE OF THEM. THEY'LL BE SPACE INTERIOR TO THE HOSPITAL THAT'LL BE FOR VOLUNTEERS. >> EQUIVALENT SPACE. >> YES, SIR. >> FOR STAFF, WHERE ELSE WOULD THESE AMENDMENTS AFFECT THE SIGNAGE AMENDMENTS? WHERE ELSE IN THE TOWN WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT? >> THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE MEDICAL CENTER LIKE THE 4,000, I'M NOT SURE OF THE ACTUAL ADDRESS, BUT THAT'S A 5,000 BUILDING, 4, 3, 2, AND 1 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF JUPITER LAKES BOULEVARD. >> IS THAT IT FOR THE TOWN THAT'S ABOUT THIS? >> THAT'S THE ONLY PART OF THEIR PROPERTY I'M AWARE OF THAT HAS MEDICAL CENTER. >> I DIDN'T KNOW OUTSIDE THE HOSPITALS THERE'S A PRE-MEDICAL PARK, THOSE THREE BUILDINGS. >> THANK YOU. >> I WOULD ALSO NOTE THE BEGINNING OF THE P18 SIGNS SAYS THAT HOSPITALS SIGNS ARE AVAILABLE IN MEDICAL CENTERS NOTING DISTRICTS FOR HOSPITALS WHICH HAVE AN APPROVED MASTER SITE PLAN, AND THEN THEY ALSO NEED TO HAVE AN APPROVED MASTER SIGN PLAN. >> THAT REALLY REDUCES IT DOWN TO JUST THIS. >> CORRECT. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WASSERMANN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF YOU WANT ME TO I CAN CALL ON SOMEONE ELSE. >> I WAS JUST FOR THE APPLICANT. I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLETE THE PATIENT BUILDING BEFORE THE GARAGE. >> EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER WASSERMANN, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. >> IT'LL BE STARTED. CONSTRUCTION WILL BE KIN PRIOR TO THE GARAGE BECAUSE THE PATIENT BED TOWER TAKES ABOUT TWO YEARS ESTIMATED, THE GARAGE PROBABLY ONLY BE ABOUT 12 MONTHS, AND SO TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING PARKING FIELD AS LONG AS WE CAN AND NOT TAKE THAT OUT OF COMMISSION WE'RE GOING TO START THE PARKING STRUCTURE AFTER THE PATIENT BED TOWER STARTS. WE STILL HAVE USE OF THOSE PARKING SPACES FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. >> ONCE THE GARAGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION HOW DO YOU PLAN TO PROVIDE AN INTERIM PARKING? >>> WE DO HAVE A PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT'S BEING WORKED ON AND WILL BE PROVIDED THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS, AND WE HAVE DONE THE PRELIMINARY CALCULATIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT WERE REQUIRED FOR OUR CURRENT NEEDS OF THE HOSPITAL, THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME PARKING PROVIDED AT ANOTHER JUPITER MEDICAL PROPERTY FOR EMPLOYEES AND THEY WOULD BE SHUTTLED TO THE TRIP TO THE HOSPITAL PROPERTY. I THINK THAT'S ALREADY STARTED. >> THAT PLAN IS NOT SET IN CONCRETE OR EVEN PRESENTABLE AT THIS POINT? >> NO, SIR. IT'S ONGOING WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF THROUGH THIS PROCESS. >> WILL THAT COME BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING OR WILL THAT BE DONE WITH STAFF? >> IT'LL BE THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? SORRY. A PART OF YOUR ATTACHMENTS IS THE ATTACHMENT D, WHICH IS THEIR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT THE PARKING DURING EACH PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS PAGE 2-29 OF YOUR ATTACHMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE FOLLOWING, SHOWS HOW THEY MEET THE CODE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION, AND IT WILL PROVIDE 175 SPACES OFF-SITE AT THE JUPITER INNOVATION CENTER PROPERTY WHICH IS ON MILITARY AND BOTANICAL DRIVE, WHICH THE HOSPITAL CURRENTLY HAS OFFICES THERE FOR FINANCIAL OFFICES SO THEY DO HAVE THEIR ACTUAL TENANT THAT AS WELL, AND THEY HAVE EXCESS PARKING SPACES ON THEIR SITE, THEY HAVE ALMOST 160 SPOT SPACES THAT ARE EXTRA. MAKE A SELF-REPORT IS EXTRA SPACES THERE FOR THEM TO ACCOMMODATE THEM. IT'S ALSO THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE SPACES COULD BE PROVIDED IN THE EXISTING SPACES ON TO BOULEVARD, WHICH IS ON STREET, WHICH ARE NOT COUNTED TOWARDS THE HOSPITAL. THOSE ARE SOME EXTRA SPACES THERE AS WELL THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE TO OFFSET. [00:55:03] >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISIONER RONY. >> THANK YOU. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. IT LOOKS GREAT, AND MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, BUT I'M NOT REALLY QUITE CLEAR ON THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT YOU ASKED FOR RELIEF FOR. IS THIS FOR THE APPLICANT? ONE OF THOSE WAS THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE THE EXTENSION TO THE TIME FRAME CORRECT? >> YES. >> FOR COMPLETION, AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF. >> JUST THE CURRENT ESTIMATED TIME-FRAME. AS I SAID, THE PATIENT TOWER ITSELF IS ESTIMATED TO TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS WE THINK. IF WE FACTOR IN WHERE WE ARE NOW WHEN WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THE TIME IT'LL TAKE TO FINISH, AS WELL AS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT THE PATIENT TOWER STARTING FIRST AND THEN THE PARKING STRUCTURE. WE THINK IT'LL BE CUTTING IT A LITTLE TIGHT. THE CONDITIONS SPECIFICALLY REFLECTS A TWO-YEAR TIME-FRAME FROM TOWN COUNCIL APPROVAL TO COMPLETE THAT GARAGE. WE THINK WE'RE JUST OFF BY A FEW MONTHS IN THAT AND SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT CONDITION JUST BE MODIFIED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SOMETHING MORE REALISTIC TO WHAT WE THINK WILL ACTUALLY BE THE COMPLETION DAY. >> COULD YOU QUANTIFY THAT TIME-FRAME FOR US? >> WE ESTIMATE ABOUT 52 MONTHS. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON IT TONIGHT, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT BE ABOUT 60 MONTHS JUST TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM. >> [INAUDIBLE] . >> HOW QUICK? >> ARE YOU FINISHED? >> OH, ONE OTHER THING. THIS IS THE QUESTION FOR STAFF WITH REGARDS TO THE LANDSCAPING ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED RELIEF FROM ON THE CONDITION. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE NORMALLY DO OR NOT AS FAR AS ASKING THEM TO DO THE LANDSCAPING? >> TYPICALLY, WE ASK THEM TO DO AND PROVE IT SO LONG THEY'RE FRONTAGE FOR THE PROPERTY. IN THIS CASE, THEY DO OWN THE [INAUDIBLE] PARTS IN NORTH WHICH IS PART OF THAT FRONTAGE OF THAT AREA SP LANDSCAPE, BUT THEY'LL OWN THE WHOLE DISTANCE TO THE NORTH THERE'S SOME INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES HEAD NORTH IDENTITY THEIR OWN. >> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE [OVERLAPPING] >> IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? >> IT'S AN ASK. >> COMMISSIONER WEISMAN. >> ONE QUICK QUESTION. CHARGING STATIONS, DO THEY NEED ANY GARAGE AND HOW MANY WILL IT BE? >> YES, I FAILED TO ANSWER THAT IN MY PRESENTATION. WITHIN THE GARAGE AT THE BEGINNING THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF CHARGING STATIONS PROVIDED. I THINK WE PROPOSE AT LEAST FOUR DAY 1, BUT WE ARE PROVIDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR UP TO 20 PER FLOOR, WHICH IS REALLY THE MAIN PORTION OF PROVIDING ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE TO PROVIDE THEM. WE'RE UNSURE ON DEMAND. WE ALREADY HAVE A NUMBER OF EXISTING ON THE CAMPUS THAT ARE BEING MAINTAINED AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD IN THE FUTURE, LIKE I SAID, UP TO ABOUT 20 PER FLOOR. >> THE EXISTING ONES WILL THEY REMAIN AFTER ALL THE CONSTRUCTION? >> YES, SIR, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY. I SAID 60 MONTHS. I MEANT 30 MONTHS. I WAS THINKING WEEKS AND MONTHS IN MY HEAD. SO 30 MONTHS BECAUSE THE CURRENT CONDITION IS FOR 24 MONTHS. YEAH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KERN. >> I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. JUST ON THE SIGNAGE. I DRIVE BY THERE PRETTY REGULARLY AND I DO A LOT OF WORK PROFESSIONALLY IN THE HEALTHCARE IN A HOSPITAL ENVIRONMENT. THE SIGNAGE SIZING THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, ARE THESE ACCEPTABLE FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT? BECAUSE I KNOW MOST OF THE PEOPLE, NOT MOST, A LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE VISITING THIS ARE OLDER. NOT GREAT SITE TYPICALLY, MAYBE IN FIRM. IF YOU HAD YOUR DRUTHERS, WOULD YOU EVEN HAVE LARGER SIGNS OR ARE THESE CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE TO YOU ALL? >> THESE ARE CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE TO US. WE'VE WORKED WITH SIGNAGE CONSULTANTS ON THE DESIGN OF THESE SIGNS, MAKING SURE THAT THE TEXT HEIGHT WAS ADEQUATE, AS WELL AS COLORS AND MATERIALS. EVERYTHING WAS POSITIONED PROPERLY AROUND THE CAMPUS TO PROVIDE THE MOST ACCURATE WAY FINDING. THEY ARE LARGE SIGNS, THEY DO FIT WITHIN THE EXISTING SIGNAGE. SOME OF THEIR CODE DIDN'T REFLECT THE EXISTING SIZE OF THOSE SIGNS, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY WOULD GIVE MODIFICATIONS, AND SO THE SIGNS ARE ACTUALLY A FAIRLY GOOD SIZE. >> THEN SHIFTING TO PARKING. FORGIVE ME, I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL OR THE COMMISSION WHEN WE DID AMBULATORY FACILITY. WHAT'S THE PROPORTION OF INPATIENT VERSUS AMBULATORY SURGERY THAT'S DONE IN THAT BUILDING OR WILL BE DONE IN THAT BUILDING. IS IT 80% AMBULATORY, [01:00:01] 20% INPATIENT, OR? >> I, UNFORTUNATELY, DON'T HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT ANSWER. STEVE SEELEY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER THAT. I COULDN'T ANSWER. THAT'S RIGHT AND THEN SHIFTING TO THE PARKING GARAGE, I WAS CURIOUS. I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT POINT ARE PARKING GARAGES LARGE ENOUGH, AND AGAIN, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A PATIENT POPULATION THAT IS NOT SUPER SOPHISTICATED, BUT I'VE BEEN TO CERTAIN HOSPITAL ENVIRONMENTS AND FORT LAUDERDALE AIRPORT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT HAS PARKING COUNT SIGNAGE. AS YOU ENTER THE GARAGE THAT TELLS YOU THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER 60 SPACES AVAILABLE ON THE FOURTH LEVEL, THERE'S 30 ON THE THIRD LEVEL. DID YOU ALL CONSIDER THAT? BECAUSE I JUST KNOW WITH THIS KIND OF ENVIRONMENT YOU MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF BACKUPS ON THE RAMPS GOING UP FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND SPACES? UNDERSTOOD, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS A PART OF THE CURRENT PLANS. IT IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD IN THE FUTURE PART OF WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THIS GARAGE IS WE INTENTIONALLY OVERSIZED IT FOR WHAT OUR CURRENT NEEDS WITH THIS EXPANSION ARE. WE HAVE CONSIDERABLY MORE PARKING AVAILABLE IN THAT GARAGE THAN WE NEED EVEN AFTER ALL OF THIS WORK IS COMPLETED. YOU KNOW AS THE HOSPITAL CONTINUES TO GROW AND WE LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE NORTHERN PROPERTIES AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL AND WE COULD CERTAINLY ADD IT LATER, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE CURRICULUM. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE'D LIKE TO ALSO EMPHASIZE THE COMPLIMENTARY VALET SERVICE AROUND THE HOSPITAL. FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT FIND IT CONFUSING, THEY CAN USE THAT SERVICE. >> THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I THINK THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL CONTEMPLATE AN ITEM 5 TWO TRAFFIC STUDIES, AND IT MAKES SENSE OBVIOUSLY TO DO ONE WHEN THE SURGERY INSTITUTE IS COMPLETED TO SEE HOW THAT ALL PLAYS OUT. THE SECOND ONE, I GUESS, GOES AWAY IF YOU COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKING GARAGE WITHIN TWO YEARS OF COMMENCEMENT. >> I BELIEVE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR ON THAT. THE REASON THAT THE PARKING STUDIES WERE PUT IN THE CONDITION FOR THE SURGICAL INSTITUTE IS THAT WE WEREN'T PROVIDING A GARAGE AT THAT TIME, AND SO JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURITY THAT THE PARKING WORKED AND WHEN ALL THAT WORK WAS COMPLETED, WE WERE GOING TO DO TWO PARKING STUDIES WHEN ALL FACILITIES WERE OPEN AND ALL PARKING AVAILABLE. WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW WITH THE ADDITION OF THE NET INCREASE OF 500 PARKING SPACES. WE BELIEVE IT'S FAR MORE PARKING THAN WE'RE NEEDING WITH THE CURRENT HOSPITAL. WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE BURDEN OF THOSE ADDITIONAL PARKING STUDIES BE REMOVED DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS AND THE CHANGE TO THE CONDITION IS SUCH THAT BECAUSE IT WAS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE SURGICAL INSTITUTE COMPLETION AND THE AVAILABILITY OF THE PARKING, THEN WE OBVIOUSLY WON'T HAVE THE PARKING AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE'LL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON THIS NEW EXPANSION, AND SO BY THE TIME WHEN WE COULD DO AN ACCURATE STUDY, WE WON'T NEED IT. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT. >> CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME A BALLPARK? WHAT DOES THE PARKING STUDY COST? 20 GRAND OR 50 GRAND? >> ABOUT 10,000 I'M NOT SURE. >> THEN THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. DO WE HAVE THE OPTION? IF WE SEE A BUSINESS THAT'S OPERATING IN A WAY THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT ACCOMMODATING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THAT FACILITY, CAN WE FORCE SOMEBODY TO DO A BREAKING STUDY TO IDENTIFY? >> THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE PARKING SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS THAT ADDRESSES INADEQUATE PARKING. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER HILL. >> I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. QUESTION I HAVE FOR STAFF IS THE CONDITION THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR RELIEF FOR THE EAST SIDE LANDSCAPE. BUT I KNOW YOU SAID THAT. THAT'S AN ASK, BUT DOES THAT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THE TOWN'S MASTER PLAN OF CONNECTIVITY OF ANYTHING OF A BIGGER PICTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THE UNDERSTANDING OF RATIONALE OF WHY THAT WAS PRESENTED AS A CONDITION. >> WE DON'T HAVE AN ADOPTED MASTER PLAN FOR THIS AREA. THERE WAS A STUDY FOR TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA THAT ESTABLISHED OR BEGAN TO ESTABLISH OR PROPOSED TO ESTABLISH A GRID WHICH IS PART OF THE CONNECTIVITY AND THE NORTH-SOUTH DIRECTION CONNECTING TONY PENA OR CONNECTING THE HOSPITAL TO TONY PENA THE RECORD SYSTEM AND THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH., ANYTIME WE LOOK AT PROJECTS THE HOSPITAL HAS BEEN FLIPPING THEIR ENTRANCE FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, [01:05:05] AND THE TOWN HAD MADE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO JUPITER LAKES BOULEVARD TO ENHANCE THAT ROADWAY IN THE PAST. WE JUST FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT THEY'RE RE-ESTABLISHING NOW DIXIE AS THEIR FRONT DOOR AND THEIR OWN. IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT OR ATTACHMENT B ON PAGE 2-25, YOU'LL SEE THE PROPERTIES IN RED THAT ARE OWNED BY JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER. THEY OWN ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES UP TO TONY PENA EXCEPT FOR THE ONE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY THAT'S BETWEEN ABOUT PROBABLY ABOUT 200 FEET SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION. THEY ARE THE PREDOMINANT OWNER OF ALL THE LAND IN THAT AREA WHERE IT WAS BEING ASKED FOR AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR AN UPGRADE TO THE AREA FOR THE AESTHETICS OF THE ENTRY BASED ON THE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT THEY'RE MAKING THESE IMPROVEMENTS. WE FELT IT WAS A REASONABLE REQUEST TO MAKE SOME INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS. THE OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC OR OUTSIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER FISHER. >> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. WITH THE PARKING GARAGE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO INCORPORATE VALET PARKING THERE ALSO TO MAKE IT EASIER IF SOME PEOPLE WANT TO PARK IN THE GARAGE AND BE VALID IN THE GARAGE. >> IT COULD BE POSSIBLE TO PUT A VALET STAND THERE BUT OPERATIONALLY IT'S NOT VERY EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT AND PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT OF THEIR CARS. WE LIKE TO KEEP THE DRIVEWAY AS OPEN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO WHEN YOU PUT THAT FACILITY INSIDE OF THE GARAGE, I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF THE CODES WOULD ALLOW IT AT THIS POINT. THE CONVENIENCE OF THE VALLEY AT THE FRONT DOORS, SPECIFICALLY AT A HOSPITAL, ALLOW SOMEONE TO GET RIGHT TO THE FRONT DOOR, WHETHER THEY HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES OR THEY JUST WANT TO BE CLOSER. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO AND PARK THE CAR THEMSELVES. IT'S A BIT MORE EFFICIENT. >> ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE: THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT THAT YOU HAVE THERE RIGHT NOW, HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO BE TEMPORARY AND HOW MANY SPACES DOES THAT HOLD AND WHO IS PARKING IN THOSE LOTS RIGHT NOW, THAT TEMPORARY PARKING LOT? >> THE TEMPORARY LOT IS LOCATED OFF TONY PENA AND I'M NOT SURE ON THE EXACT NUMBER. IT'S NOT A LOT. IT'S A DIFFERENT LINE. SO IT'S MAINLY FOR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES AND IT WOULD BE THERE THROUGH THE COMPLETION OF THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT, ROUGHLY TWO YEARS FROM START TO FINISH. AND THEN THE CONDITION, I THINK, IS TO REMOVE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ONCE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED IN PREPARATION FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY SO IT DOESN'T JUST REMAIN A GRAVEL LOT. IT WOULD BE, I BELIEVE, SORTED. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS WHAT THE APPLICANT WANT AND WITH STAFF RECOMMENDED SOURCE SIGNAGE, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT FROM THE 30 FEET TO 50 FEET. >> STATE'S AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO MODIFY THE SIGN CODE TO LOWER THE SIGN HEIGHTS FOR THE HOSPITAL ID SIGNS. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE FROM 50 FEET TO 30 FEET. IT'S MAINLY THEY HAVE A HOSPITAL ID SIGN FACING OLD DIXIE AND THE HOSPITAL SIGN FACING LAKE BOULEVARD. >> THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HAGUE. >> FOR THE APPLICANT FIRST, THE SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE UP RIGHT NOW, THE LAST TWO TIMES EXPANSION CAME IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. WE HAD ASKED FOR A PARKING GARAGE. COULD YOU GO OVER AGAIN. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEONE WHO'S USED THIS HOSPITAL QUITE A BIT MORE THAN I REALLY WANTED TO. WHERE YOU'VE MOVED THE MAIN ENTRY WHERE WE'RE RIGHT NOW. I CAME IN FOR OUTPATIENT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND WAS INSTRUCTED TO COME IN THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE. I THINK DURING YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID THAT OUTPATIENT PARKING IS DIRECTED TO GO DOWN TO THE SOUTH LOT? >> YES. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AT THE COMPLETION OF THE HOSPITAL. SO OBVIOUSLY, A FEW MONTHS AGO, THE SOUTH ENTRANCE WAS CLOSED DUE TO THE SURGICAL INSTITUTE BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO A MAJORITY OF THE MAIN ACCESS FOR EVERYONE TO THIS HOSPITAL HAS BEEN ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE CAMPUS. SO WHEN THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETED, THE MAIN VISITOR ENTRANCE WILL BE ON [01:10:02] THE EAST SIDE AND THE MAIN OUTPATIENT ENTRANCE WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. >> AND HOW ABOUT IN-PATIENT SURGERY? >> MOST LIKELY, IT WOULD BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE AS WELL. >> BECAUSE NOW SINCE I ENTER FROM MILITARY TRAIL ONTO JUPITER LAKES BOULEVARD, WAS DIRECTED NOT TO GO TO THE FIRST LEFT-HAND TURN BECAUSE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM ONLY AMBULANCE. SO GOING DOWN TO THE SECOND ENTRANCE WHICH NOW IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED OFF BECAUSE OF CIRCULATION IN THE FUTURE, WINDING MYSELF AROUND TO GO BACK TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM FOR A FRIEND OF MINE WHO WAS IN AN ACCIDENT, THE ONLY PLACE THAT I COULD PARK I FOUND WAS THE SPACE IN EXPECTANT MOTHERS, WHICH I WENT AHEAD AND I TOOK. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE IS THE IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. THIS SHOWS THE COMPLETED IMPROVEMENTS. >> SO ALL OF THE PARKING SPOTS ON THE SOUTHERN AREA THAT ARE THERE, YOU ARE EXPECTING THOSE PEOPLE TO BE GOING THROUGH A SOUTH ENTRANCE? >> CORRECT. SO FOR CANCER CENTER AS WELL AS THE SOUTH ENTRANCE, THOSE PEOPLE COULD PARK AND THEN GO THROUGH THAT AND ENTRANCE. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THESE PARKING SPACES AREN'T RESTRICTED. IF SOMEONE'S COMING FOR AN APPOINTMENT OR PROCEDURE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN DIRECTION ON WHERE TO GO. >> BY SIGNAGE. >> BY SIGNAGE AS WELL AS YOUR INSTRUCTIONS AND YOUR APPOINTMENT THAT YOU MAKE. SO VISITORS WHEN THEY TYPE IN THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSPITAL, IT'S GOING TO BRING THEM TO THAT EASTERN MAIN ENTRANCE, THAT IS THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSPITAL. BUT LET'S SAY A VISITOR COMES AND THEY PARK IN THE SOUTH ENTRANCE AND THEY GO INTO THE SOUTH ENTRANCE, THEY COULD STILL ACCESS THE HOSPITAL. THEY WOULDN'T BE TOLD THAT THEY HAD TO LEAVE AND GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HOSPITAL. THEY COULD STILL CHECK IN AND GO IN THAT WAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PLANNED BY THE HOSPITAL. >> NOW, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE STATEMENT OF USE, ALTHOUGH, PETER BROUGHT UP IN THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN. I KNOW THE EMPLOYEE PARKING IS SUPPOSED TO BE SCANNED IN ORDER TO GO INTO THEIR EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT. THEY'VE GOT A SCAN IT. THAT GOES THROUGH THE TRACKS, THEIR SWIPES. BUT IT STATES THAT DURING CONSTRUCTION AND I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING CONCURRENTLY THROUGH THIS IS THAT 175 EMPLOYEES HAVE A LOT THAT HAS ONLY 167 EXTRA SPACES FROM FEBRUARY 23RD TO JANUARY OF 24. BUT THEN ALSO THAT EMPLOYEES CAN UTILIZE THAT 35 SPOTS ON JUPITER LAKES BOULEVARD. THOSE SPOTS RIGHT NOW ARE TOTALLY TAKEN. THIS COMMISSION AND STAFF HAVE NEVER AGREED WITH THE APPLICANT BY SAYING THAT WE'RE TELLING YOU THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING, THERE'S NO ENOUGH PARKING, THERE'S NO ENOUGH PARKING. STAFF, ON THEIR PAGES 27 AND 28 SAID THAT IN THE PARKING IN THERE STAFF REPORT, "BASED ON PAST OBSERVATIONS, THE HOSPITAL HAS HISTORICALLY NEEDED MORE PARKING THAN REQUIRED BY CODE. HISTORICALLY, PARKING DEMAND IS GREATER THAN MINIMUM PARKING SPACE IS REQUIRED BY CODE BECAUSE THEIR SHIFT CHANGES, THERE'S A LOT THAT HAPPENS, AND PARKING IS ALWAYS REQUIRED." MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THAT WHY IS THERE ALWAYS CATCH UP GOING ON THIS RATHER THAN HAVING SOME PLANS THAT ARE INITIATED TO KEEP UP WITH IT RATHER THAN CATCHING UP ALL THE TIME CASE AND POINT. THE EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT DESPERATELY NEEDS AN ACCESS TO TONY PENA. AND I KNOW THAT'S IN YOUR FUTURE PLANS BUT WHY ISN'T THAT DONE NOW. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE CIRCULATING EVERYTHING INTO THE MAIN ENTRANCE WAY OF THE HOSPITAL DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE NORTH-SOUTH STREET IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED OUT. SO WHEN EMPLOYEES OR VOLUNTEERS ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT, THEY CAN'T TURN LEFT ONTO TONY PENA IF THEY'RE TURNING NORTH ON OLD DIXIE, [01:15:04] THEY CAN'T GET ON TO TONY PENA. SO WHY AREN'T YOU DOING THAT PASS THROUGH NOW FOR THE EMPLOYEES? IT WOULD REALLY ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION. >> SO THE EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH HAS TWO DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS THAT LEAD OUT TO OLD DIXIE THAT DON'T TAKE YOU THROUGH THE MAIN HOSPITAL CAMPUS. THERE IS NOT A SUFFICIENT WARRANT EVEN BY THEIR OWN TOWN TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO WARRANT THAT ACCESS POINT NOW, WHICH IS WHY IT'S BEEN CONDITIONED FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PARCELS IN THE FUTURE. SECURITY IS ALSO A MAIN CONCERN FOR THAT PARKING LOT. SO AT THIS STAGE, AGAIN, IT'S NOT NECESSARY IN THE EYES OF THE HOSPITAL TO PROVIDE THAT ACCESS POINT. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ISSUES, ONE BEING AVAILABLE PARKING DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THEN PARKING AT THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. SO AGAIN, WE'VE INTENTIONALLY OVERSIZED THIS PARKING GARAGE TO BE WAY MORE THAN WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE HAVE. THEN AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THE EXPANSION AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PARCELS ALONG TONY PENA. >>I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT MY COMMENT TO YOU IS THAT YOU KEEP SAYING THAT WE'VE OVERPARKED IT, WE'RE GIVING YOU MORE PARKING, AND STAFF AND THE HUMANS OUT THERE THAT USE IT ARE TELLING YOU, NO, YOU'RE NOT GIVING US ENOUGH PARKING. MR. HURNIGG, I DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU. THANK YOU. STAFF PETER I KNOW THAT ON THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE APPLICANT GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT CONNECTION TO TONY PENA AND CJ FOR SOME REASON, DIDN'T THINK THAT IT WAS NEEDED. IS THAT THE REASON THAT YOU DIDN'T PUT THAT IN AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL? >> CORRECT. IT WASN'T WORTH IT. THAT WAS RAISED TO THE APPLICANT TO DO THAT. >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >> I'M GOING TO CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER HAGUE ON THE PARKING. I'M A FREQUENT FLIER AT THE HOSPITAL AS WELL, AND MY FIRST GO AROUND AT FOUCHE WAS THE PARKING IT WAS JUST FOUCHE AND YOU PARKED RIGHT THERE AND YOU WALKED INTO THE ENTRANCE AND YOU WERE THERE. MY SECOND GO ROUND, IT'S NOW INTERESTING CANCER, FOUCHE IS STILL THERE, THE PARKING IS STILL THERE SO I PARKED. OH, I'M GOING THERE. NOW, I HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE CANCER CENTER. AND THEN THE THIRD TIME, I WAS NOW RISE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING AND I PARKED IN THE PARKING LOT YOU HAVE DEDICATED THERE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WAS A CAR GOING THROUGH THAT CIRCLED BACK AROUND AND THEY ROLLED DOWN THE WINDOW AND SAID WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PARK? AND I SAID, WHERE ARE YOU GOING? ANDERSON CANCER. I SAID, OH, WHY YOU COULD PARK IN THIS PARKING LOT. THAT PARKING IS NOT CONVENIENT, AND THEN THE MY PARKING WITH THE SURGICAL SUITES BEFORE THE EXPANSION WAS ABYSMAL AND I HAVE ALWAYS HATED THE PARKING FOR EMERGENCY, IT'S JUST SO INCONVENIENT IF YOU'RE SICK OR IF YOU HAVE AN INJURY, TO HAVE TO NAVIGATE OUT OF THAT LITTLE PARKING AREA WITH THE HEDGES ARE AND ALL THAT STUFF. THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS. THE PARKING STRUCTURE, I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION ON, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO DO A SOLAR CANOPY ON THE ROOF THAT WOULD SHIELD THE CARS FROM THE HOT SUN AND ALSO GENERATE SUSTAINABLE? >> AT THIS STAGE, IT'S NOT PART OF THE PLAN. AGAIN, THAT EXPENSE IS PRETTY ASTRONOMICAL, WOULDN'T COMPARISON TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO INTERNALLY WITH PROVIDING THE BEST PATIENT CARE THAT WE CAN SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE CURRENT PLANS. >> THERE'S NO WAY TO PARTNER LIKE WITH FP&L TO DO SOME PHOTO ARRAY ON THE TOP OF THE GARAGE? >> YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH REACHING OUT TO THEM. IT HASN'T BEEN EXPLORED AT THIS STAGE FOR A PARTNERSHIP IN THAT MANNER. TYPICALLY, PROVIDING THE SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF OF A PARKING STRUCTURE IS VERY EXPENSIVE. >> UNDERSTOOD. IT'S REALLY THE WAY THAT THEY'RE GOING NOW THESE DAYS THOUGH. SATELLITE BEACH HAS A SOLAR ARRAY AT THE PUBLIC BEACH THERE THAT THEY DID IN CONJUNCTION WITH FP&L. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR DEAL WAS THERE, BUT I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND PARTNERING WITH THEM AND LOOKING INTO THAT, AND THEN I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT [01:20:02] THE SIGN PACKET THAT WAS A BIT CONFUSING AND THAT I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SCOTT THATCHER THIS MORNING. THERE'S A LOT OF THE SIGNAGE IN HERE THAT SAID IT'S PROPOSED, LIKE THE MASTRIANI PEDIATRIC CENTERS THAT IT WAS PROPOSED BUT THAT'S SCIENCE BEEN INSTALLED FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. IN GOING THROUGH IT WITH SCOTT, WE REALIZED, WHEN IT SAYS IT'S PROPOSED AND ASSIGNMENTS ALREADY INSTALLED IT'S LIKE WHAT ARE THEY ASKING ME THEN? THAT WAS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I HAD WITH THE PACKET. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, CAN I ASK A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UPS? >> SURE. CAN. >> WOULD YOU THIS FOR THE APPLICANT, YOUR VALET PARKING PROPOSALS STRICTLY FOR THE MAIN ENTRANCE? >> NO. THERE'S VALET PROVIDED SEVERAL ENTRANCES INCLUDING WHEN THE CANCER CENTER OR THE SURGICAL INSTITUTE OPENS UP THAT ENTRANCE WILL HAVE VALET, CANCER CENTER HAS VALET AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE HAS VALET. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO USE. >> THAT'S GOOD. THEN THE ER AS WELL? >> ON THAT POSITIVE, I THINK THEY DO. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE. I BELIEVE IT WILL, BUT WE ARE ALWAYS BEEN FOCUSING ON THE SOUTHEAST AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT [OVERLAPPING] >> I'VE BEEN FREQUENT ER PERSON'S UP, I THINK I HAVE A FAST PASS AND IT BE REALLY GOOD AT THE ER TO BE ABLE TO JUST GIVE SOMEBODY YOUR KEYS AND RUN INSIDE. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> I STRONGLY ENCOURAGED THAT. >> GOOD RECOMMENDATION. >> I DON'T GIVE MY KEYS TO ANYBODY, BUT THAT'S OKAY. [LAUGHTER] >> THE PARKING I GOT I THINK IT'S COMMENDABLE THAT YOU'RE ADDING THE 20 EV'S PER LEVEL, THE CHARGING STATIONS, WHICH YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT PEOPLE COMING ON STRICTLY TO CHARGE THEIR VEHICLES THAT ARE USING THAT AND NOT INTENDING TO GO INTO THE HOSPITAL. I'D RECOMMEND YOU PUT SIGNS UP THAT SAY FOR HOSPITAL PARKING ONLY. >> WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH AND WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT PART OF THE REASON THAT WE WEREN'T PROVIDING THEM ALL DAY ONE, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT SURE IF THE ULTIMATE DEMAND ON HOW MANY WE NEED. WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THEM THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE WE COULD HAVE AS MANY AS WE COULD POTENTIALLY NEED, AND SO AS WE UNDERSTAND THE DEMAND MORE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD MORE AND MORE. >> ANOTHER PHENOMENON OCCURS AS HURRICANES WHEN THEY COME THROUGH LIKE HARBOR SIDES PARKING GARAGE GETS FULL. IT'S A MYSTERY HOW THAT HAPPENS IS EVERYBODY RUNS INTO THE PARKING GARAGES. IT WOULD DISPLACE, YOU'RE GOBBLING UP SOME GROUND SPOTS AND YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THE PARKING AND THE GARAGE SO IF WE COULD SOMEHOW I'M SURE THAT'S FOR HOSPITAL PARKING ONLY, THAT'D BE GOOD. >> UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU FOR THE RECOMMENDATION. >> OF STAFF, I HAVE JUST ONE MAYBE A SET OF QUESTIONS IT'S IN REGARDS TO REQUIREMENT 11D, REGARDS TO THE WATER MAIN. TO GET A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THAT, IT'S 11D IT'S COMPLETING A LOOP, AN EXISTING NORTH-SOUTH LOOP, THAT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ON PAGE 214C? >> I'LL TRY MY BEST THAT WAS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, BUT I KNOW IT'S ALL ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THE CAMPUS SO IT'S LONG THE SIDEWALK ALONG OLD DIXIE GOING DOWN CONNECT THE NEGATIVE LONG OF NORTH SIDE OF THE GARAGE, GOING DOWN EAST SIDE OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE AND ENTER THE NEW ENTRANCE TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE HOSPITAL. THEN ALSO ALL THE WAY GOING DOWN TO JUPITER LAKES BOULEVARD CONNECTING TO THE EXISTING LINE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD. THIS PATH IN GENERAL, I KNOW WHAT THE LINES ARE, I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE THAN THAT. >> IS IT FOR THE HOSPITAL OR? >> YES. IT'S ALL FOR THE HOSPITAL TO MAKE SURE THEY MAINTAIN THEIR LEVEL OF THE WATER SERVICE. >> IT'S NOT JUST A CONNECTION LOOP END? >> THAT'S JUST AN ANALYSIS AND THEY DEEM IMPORTANT TO DO TO PROVIDE THE MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE WATER. >> ALL RIGHT. ONE LAST FOR THE APPLICANT, DID YOU ACTUALLY PRICE OUT SOLAR CANOPY OR YOU JUST [INAUDIBLE]? >> NO. WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY PRICE IT OUT. WE'VE PRICED IT OUT ON OTHER PROJECTS BEFORE. WE HAVE DONE THEM ON OTHER PROJECTS BEFORE AND SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> THEORETICALLY THEY SHOULD PAY FOR THEMSELVES AN X NUMBER OF YEARS. THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA OF SOLAR, IT WOULD EVENTUALLY PAY FOR ITSELF. MAYBE CONSIDER A PARTIAL COVERAGE JUST TO COVER THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. JUST A SUGGESTION. >> WE APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT FURTHER. LIKE I SAID WE HAVE NO PLANS TO DO IT NOW, BUT WE WILL CONSULT WITH THE HOSPITAL. LIKE WE SAID, THESE PROJECTS ARE MADE POSSIBLE BY THE DONATIONS THAT THE HOSPITAL RECEIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL, [01:25:03] LOANS TO GET IT DONE AND SO THEY HAVE TO BALANCE BUDGETS AND WE ARE NOT-FOR-PROFIT HOSPITALS, SO EVERYTHING PLAYS A PART. >> IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? >> I'M NOT SURE. >> BACK TO OUR APPLICANT, BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT ABOUT THE RELIEF FROM THE 24 MONTHS TWO YEARS FOR THE PARKING GARAGE AND YOU WANTED 30. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THIRTY MONTHS. YES, SIR. >> WOULD THERE BE ANY OF THAT AVAILABLE DURING THE TIME FRAME? DOES ALL OF IT HAS TO BE SHUT DOWN FOR 30 MONTHS OR IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME A BIT ABOUT WHAT PROVOKES. >> WELL, THE PARKING GARAGE WON'T BE AVAILABLE UNTIL WE GET C0. THE CONDITION FOR THE 30 MONTHS IS RELATED TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OR REMOVAL OF THE CONDITION RELATED TO A SURGICAL INSTITUTE FOR THE PARKING STUDIES. THE CONDITION IS REQUIRING US TO HAVE THAT PARKING GARAGE FINISHED WITHIN TWO YEARS AND WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO FINISH IT. WE'RE STARTING THIS CONSTRUCTION OF THE GARAGE, PLANNING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TO START AFTER THE PATIENT TOWER. AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THAT FIELD OF SURFACE PARKING IS AVAILABLE FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN WE CLOSE IT THE OLDER GARAGE AND OPEN THE TWO TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU. FOR STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH 30 MONTH AND HOW WILL THAT IMPACT THE OVERALL PROJECT IF WE ALLOWED THAT? >> WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT WITH THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO CAN LOOK AT THAT. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE EXTENDING. THE GOAL OF THIS CONDITION WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY DIDN'T BUILD THE GARAGE THAT WE WOULD STILL HAVE [INAUDIBLE] IN STUDY BETWEEN DONE. THAT'S REALLY A GOOD GOAL OF THE CONDITION THAT WE DID JUST TO REMOVE THE CONDITION AND MAINTAIN IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT GARAGE IS BUILT. >> I KNOW YOU DIDN'T ASK ME A QUESTION BUT JUST AS CLARIFICATION, THAT CONDITION IS SECURITY IN CASE CONSTRUCTION DOES NOT BEGIN ON EITHER OF THESE ADDITIONS WITHIN TWO YEARS. IF AT THE END OF TWO YEARS, OBVIOUSLY THE PATIENT TOWER WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE OPENED WITHOUT THE GARAGE. IN THE EVENT THAT AT TWO YEARS WE HAVEN'T CONSTRUCTED EITHER, WE WOULDN'T NEED THE PARKING STUDIES BASED ON WHAT WAS APPROVED FOR SURGICAL. WE AGREE WITH THAT, NO PROBLEMS. IT'S JUST THE TIME FRAME OF COMPLETING THE GARAGE IS THE ONLY FACTOR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WHO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT ME TO. NOW TO PUBLIC COMMENT, MRS. BEST, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? WE CAN GO TO DISCUSSION ON THE APPLICANT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO? >> YES. PART OF MY EX-PARTE CONVERSATIONS, I SAID MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT SOME SPEED BUMPS OUT IN FRONT OF THIS AREA TO TRY TO SLOW SOME OF THE TRAFFIC DOWN AND THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSES [INAUDIBLE] HOSPITAL AND YOU DON'T WANT BUMPS OUT THERE. OH, NO, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL. >> [INAUDIBLE] I REALLY LIKE THEM THAT MUCH ANYWAY. >> ANOTHER ONE I BROUGHT UP WAS TO COVER A WALKWAY FROM THE GARAGE TO THE FACILITY. YOU CAN'T DO THAT EITHER BECAUSE OF FIRE TRUCKS. THERE WAS NO MEANS TO GET IT COVERED PARKING OVER THERE WHICH I THOUGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL. I WAS ALSO CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE IN THE PARKING GARAGE MIGHT TRY TO GO STRAIGHT ACROSS THE STREET TO THE PATIENT TOWER, BUT THERE ARE RENDERINGS AND LANDSCAPING IS GOING TO MAKE IT OBVIOUS THAT THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO GO. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE TRYING TO GO ACROSS THE MAIN ENTRANCE DRIVE WAY TO GET OVER THERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S BEING ACCOMPLISHED FAIRLY WELL. THE TIME EXTENSION I THINK WAS A REASONABLE SIX MONTHS, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT MUCH TO ME. THE VALET PARKING AS I'VE SAID I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE IT AT ALL THREE MAIN ENTRANCES; THE CANCER CENTER, THE ER, AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE. >> I'M SORRY, SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. >> THE VALET PARKING, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT AT THE OTHER LOCATION SO THE SITUATION THAT YOU WERE FACING DON'T HAPPEN. IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO [OVERLAPPING]. >> I DON'T LIKE VALET PARKING, SO I WOULDN'T VALET PARK MY CAR [LAUGHTER] UNLESS I WAS FALLING OUT OF MY CAR DYING. >> PERHAPS WITH THE COMPLAINT METHOD, YOU CAN GET THEM TO PUT THEIR VALET PARKING OUT FARTHER OR SO BIG. WE DON'T WANT TO VALET, WE'LL HAVE THE SPACES THAT ARE CLOSER. THAT'S OFTEN DONE BY BUSINESSES. OTHERWISE, I LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING. PERSONALLY I'M NOT COMFORTABLE ASKING THEM TO PUT LANDSCAPING OFF PROPERTY. THAT'S UNIQUE FOR A NON-PROFIT ESPECIALLY. >> IT'S A PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN, CORRECT? >> NO. >> NO. SORRY. >> IT'D BE OFF CAMPUS LANDSCAPE IT'S LITTLE ODD. IF IT WAS A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS, [01:30:01] I WOULDN'T FEEL SO BAD ABOUT IT, BUT A NON-PROFIT ALMOST MEANS WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IT OURSELVES ANYWAY OTHERWISE I LIKE THE PLANE AND I LIKE WHAT I SEE. >> THANK YOU. >> LET ALONE ME, I DON'T WANT TO BE FORCED TO VALET PARK. REALLY EVER SINCE THE JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER WHICH I LOVE THE FACILITY EVER SINCE IT STARTED MORPHING INTO EXPANDING, I HAVEN'T FELT ACCOMMODATED BY THE PARKING AT ALL, HAVING TO WALK TOO FAR AND BEING SPREAD OUT TOO MUCH. I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH JUST WANTING TO DO THE BARE MINIMUM. FOR INSTANCE, THAT RELIEVER TO TONY PENA WOULD DO A HUGE AMOUNT FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO GO THAT WAY EVEN THOUGH I WAS CORRECTED AND I REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL EGRASSES TO OLD DIXIE BECAUSE I USUALLY TAKE THAT WAY TO GO INTO THE MEDICAL PARK THAT IS BY THERE. I THINK EXTENDING THEIR TIME I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT JUST BECAUSE THE WHOLE IDEA IS LET'S GET THIS PARKING STRUCTURE DONE BECAUSE OUR PARKING IS A MESS. THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE REALLY GOING TO LIKE BEING SHUTTLED AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GO ON WITH THAT. THE LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE HOSPITAL OWNS ON SOUTH DIXIE AND THE OLD DIXIE, THEY'RE MAKING A BEAUTIFUL HOSPITAL. THE ENTRANCE WAY ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN, THEY SHOULD BE LANDSCAPING IT. SO I TOTALLY SUPPORT. I ACTUALLY SUPPORT ALL OF STAMPS OR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU. MR. [INAUDIBLE]. [LAUGHTER] >> I PERSONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE EXTRA SIX MONTHS IF IT'S NEEDED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SUPPLY CHAIN AND THINGS HAPPEN DURING CONSTRUCTION. I THINK IT'S REASONABLE, BUT I DO LIKE THE HEALING GARDEN. I'VE SEEN IT TODAY AND I LOOKED AT THE RENDERINGS, AND IT'S A MUCH IMPROVED AND MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR THE HOSPITAL AND PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO HAVE SUCH A PLACE TO GO AS NEEDED. I APPLAUD THAT. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DUNNING. >> EXCELLENT PLAN. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, EXCITED ABOUT IT WITH REGARDS TO THE CONDITIONS I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THE LANDSCAPING OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY LINES. I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT. THE PARKING SITUATION IS A CONCERN AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US TRY TO STICK TO WORK 24 MONTHS SCHEDULE AS STAFF HAS MENTIONED. I'M SURE THAT DURING THE COURSE OF CONTRACTS AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT YOU WILL PROBABLY BE GRANTED AN EXTENSION ANYWAY WHEN THINGS COME UP. THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ON IT ANYWAY. >> COMMISSIONER KERN. >> I THINK IT'S AN INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY ASSET. MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE 10 YEARS AGO AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'VE MADE IN THE QUALITY OF CARE AND ESPECIALLY INVESTMENTS THEY'VE MADE IN THE HOSPITAL IS REALLY BEEN IMPRESSIVE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING. I THINK ONE THING WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IS US HAVING THE RIGHT TO REQUEST AN ANNUAL PARKING STUDY. IT'S ONLY $10,000. THAT'S NOT COMING OUT OF OUR POCKETS. I DON'T THINK IT'S MATERIAL TO THE HOSPITAL AND I THINK IT WOULD GIVE US ALL THE COMFORT LEVEL INSTEAD OF THINKING THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE COULD QUANTIFY IT AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. I THINK WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED THE FRUSTRATION. A LOT OF THAT'S BEEN BORNE OUT OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S BEEN OCCURRING OVER THE LAST LITERALLY 10 YEARS. BUT I JUST THINK THAT MIGHT BE A WAY THAT WE CAN SET A LITTLE AND BENCHMARKS EACH YEAR OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THOUGHT AROUND THIS. >> COMMISSIONER HELD. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS IT? >> YES. [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER HELD. >> I LOVE THE PROJECT. THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE RELIEF, THE ENTRANCE AREA, THAT IS NOT THEIR PROPERTY. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD AT THIS POINT IN TIME EXPECT THEM TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NON HOSPITAL PROPERTY, BUT THE PROPERTY AT YOUR ENTRANCE WAY, MAKING IT REALLY NICE. TO IDENTIFY IT, THAT THE BEAUTY AND THE JEWEL OF OUR COMMUNITY IS THERE. THE PARKING SITUATION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. WE ALL AT THIS TABLE AGREE THAT PARKING IS AN IMPORTANT INTEGRAL ASPECT OF THE COMMUNITY, OF COMING TO THE HOSPITAL, THERE ARE VISITORS, EVERYTHING THAT'S ABOUT IT. IT'S PART OF THE LIFELINE TO IT. [01:35:04] I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE TIMELINE WE NEED TO STICK TO IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. THAT SIX MONTHS CAN MEAN A LOT TO THE VISITORS AND TO THE DOCTORS AND EVERYONE THAT'S ACCESSING IT. >> COMMISSIONER PINTEL. >> I LOVE THE PROJECT. I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOU GUYS FOR THE EXPANSION AND I HEAR WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT. I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE PARKING BECAUSE HAVE STRUGGLED MYSELF LOOKING FOR PARKING AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE BECAUSE IT'S MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. I HAVE SOMEONE WHO WENT TO JUPITER MEDICAL THIS WEEKEND WAS LOST WITH SOME OF THE SIGNAGE. I HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO HAVE GONE TO JUPITER MEDICAL AND HAVE GOTTEN EXCELLENT CARE AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUING. I THINK WITH THE 30 MONTHS AS FAR AS THEIR PARKING GARAGE, ARE THE 24 MONTHS TORN IN-BETWEEN BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ISSUE WITH THE PARKING, BUT I THINK I COULD GO ALONG WITH THE 30 MONTHS. BUT I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS COULD TRY TO PUT THAT GARAGE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT. BUT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE TWO ASKS TONIGHT. WE HAVE THE SIGNAGE ONLY THE SITE PLAN. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ON THE SIGNAGE? BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR, I ONLY HEARD MR. PINTEL. >> I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF COMMENT ABOUT THE SIGNAGE. ONE OF THE THINGS I DO AS AN ENGINEER IS CONSTANT ACUITY STUDIES AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. HOW CONSPICUOUS IS IT? IT'S TERRIBLE NOW AND IT'S GOING TO BE GREATLY IMPROVED WITH THE SIZE. I'VE REVIEWED, THE SIZE OF THE SIGNAGE. THEY'RE DISCUSSING, GREATLY IMPROVED BECAUSE YOU'D BE MUCH MORE CONSPICUOUS TO UNFAMILIAR MOTORS IS WHAT ENGINEER'S TRIED TO DESIGN THINGS FOR US. ONCE YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING IN THERE, IT'S PRETTY EASY, BUT IT'S FOR THE UNFAMILIAR MOTORIST. I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AS FAR AS THE SIZE OF THE SIGNAGE GOES. I'M PLEASED WITH THAT. AS FAR AS THE DELAY GOES, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THEIR BEST INTERESTS TO GET IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT TIME AGAINST US. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. JUST SEEMS INTUITIVE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE SLACKING ON. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR JUST IN CASE IT WOULD BE HARD TO BELIEVE FROM A BUSINESS PARADIGM THAT THEY'D WANT TO SLIDE THIS IN ANY WAY. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TRY. WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS TERRIBLE NOW, AND IF ANYTHING, WE WOULD SEPARATE THE DELAY OF THE TOWER VERSUS THE DELAY OF THE PARKING GARAGE. I THINK THE PARKING GARAGE, WE REALLY NEEDS TO BE THERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THING TO SAY ABOUT THIS SIGN ASK? NO. I WILL SAY THAT I THINK THE 24 MONTHS IS REASONABLE AND I SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON BOTH. I DO LIKE THE SIGN PROGRAM. THAT WAS ONE THAT I COULD READ. I THINK IT MAKES IT NICE AND IT'S COHESIVE IN IT MAKES IT LOOK EASIER TO GET DIRECTIONAL AROUND THEM. WHAT'S BEEN THERE FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS THOSE LITTLE SIGNPOSTS HAS BEEN THERE. BUT I REMEMBER THEM FOR QUITE AWHILE, SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT. MR. BAIRD, YOU SAID WE NEED TO DO THAT IN EACH OF THEM SEPARATELY AND MAKE A MOTION SET ON SEPARATELY. CORRECT? >> [INAUDIBLE] TEXT AMENDMENT. >> WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. [OVERLAPPING] >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT 1. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL OPPOSED. HEARING NONE. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THEN ON THE SIGNS. >> SITE PLAN. >> SITE PLAN SORRY. [LAUGHTER] MOTION FOR THE SITE PLAN VOTE FOLKS. >> I PROPOSE OF A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OFF-CAMPUS LANDSCAPING. >> I SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]. >> ALL OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. BEFORE WE ADJOURN TONIGHT, COMMISSIONER HAGUE HAS REQUESTED TO SPEAK FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES. [01:40:01] MR. CAMERON, YOU MAY WANT TO STICK AROUND FOR A SECOND. >> I'M TERRIBLE AT SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF, SO I'VE GOT MY SCRIPT. I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL THAT TONIGHT IS MY LAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. FOR MOST OF THE 30 YEARS THAT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO LIVE IN JUPITER, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME CITIZEN ADVOCACY IN THE MID-90S, ADVOCATING SO THAT THE COUNTY WOULD REROUTE THEIR ISLAND WAY PLAN TO WHERE IT IS NOW, INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE SHORES AND OTHER RESIDENCES. I MET OUR NOW MAYOR JIM KURETSKI JOINING TASK FORCES, COMMITTEES, SMALL BUSINESS, AND HOA INVOLVEMENT FOLLOWED THAN ISSUES OF HARBOURSIDE AND LOVE STREET, WHICH IGNITED MANY OF US. DURING THIS TIME IS WHEN I MET AND ADVOCATED ALONGSIDE OUR CHAIR, TERI GROOMS. PROTECTING AND PRESERVING THE ENVIRONMENT WAS ALSO IN NEED OF STRONG ADVOCACY. THE PLATE HAS BEEN FULL WORKING TO KEEP OUR SPECIAL JUPITER QUALITY OF LIFE. I'VE HAD THE HONOR TO SERVE AS JIM KURETSKI'S APPOINTED OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SINCE 2016. BASICALLY, FOR MANY YEARS, MOSTLY MORE THAN 10, MY DAYS HAVE REVOLVED TOTALLY AROUND TRYING TO REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS OF JUPITER WHO LIVE ON LAND, AS WELL AS THE THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS WHO LIVE UNDER THE SURFACE OF THE WATER. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN WE ALL DECIDE IS NECESSARY TO TURN THE PAGE TO A NEW CHAPTER AND MY TIME IS NOW. AS OF TOMORROW, I WILL NO LONGER BE A RESIDENT OF JUPITER. MY MISSION IS TO TRULY RETIRE. WHAT I MISS MOST WILL BE THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT AND WORKING WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS UP HERE ON THE DAIS. I LEAVE YOU IN THE VERY COMPETENT HANDS OF OUR CHAIR TERI GROOMS. TERI HAS ALL THE SKILLS, AND HISTORY, AND ANSWERS TO GUIDE YOU. MY HOPE FOR THE COMMISSION IS THAT YOU WILL WORK TOGETHER TO SCRUTINIZE REQUESTED WAIVERS AND SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AND BE STINGY. [LAUGHTER]. CONSTANTLY BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF ANY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE IN THE FUTURE. TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, I SO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL DO. I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW ALL OF YOU THROUGH THE YEARS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, PROFESSIONALISM, AND PART YOU HAVE PLAYED IN JUPITER BEING THE BEAUTIFUL, DESIRABLE, AND BOUGIE TOWN IT IS TODAY. BEST LUCK TO ALL OF YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST HERE TONIGHT, WHO HAS REQUESTED TO SPEAK AS WELL. I'LL INVITE COUNCILWOMAN CHERYL SCHNEIDER TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THERE. >> IT'S PAYBACK TIME [LAUGHTER]. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO COME HERE. I COULD NOT COME HERE. I HAD TO COME HERE WHEN YOU TOLD ME THAT THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST MEETING AND THAT YOU'D BE "RETIRING", AND I'M GOING TO TRY NOT TO BREAK DOWN. I THINK A FEW OTHERS HERE ARE GOING TO TRY NOT TO BREAK DOWN. I WENT TO PUBLICS TO PICK OUT A CARD FOR YOU. I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE. THERE WAS A THANK YOU SECTION AND THERE WAS A RETIREMENT SECTION, AND SO I GOT ONE OF EACH. [LAUGHTER] I'LL GIVE THOSE TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT I REALLY DO JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US, FOR TOWN OF JUPITER, BUT TEAM JUPITER AND FOR WELCOMING ME INTO THE FOLD AND FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO KNOW ABOUT MB HAGUE, IT'S THAT SHE DEALS IN CURRENCIES THAT HOLD REAL AND LASTING VALUE. IT IS THE ONLY CURRENCY SHE CARES ABOUT. WHETHER IT'S TRUST, TIME, LOVE, ATTENTION, HOPE. THESE ARE PRECIOUS, LIMITED RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY TODAY, AND ONLY SOME OF THEM ARE RENEWABLE. I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT FOR ALL OF THE COMPETING CAUSES AND PRIORITIES OUT THERE, AND YOU'RE ACTIVE IN SO MANY OF THEM, THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS WORTH INVESTING IN, AND YOU GIVE IT YOUR VERY BEST EFFORT. SECONDLY, YOU ARE RETIRING AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SUCCESSION PLAN FOR YOU. [LAUGHTER] WE THINK ABOUT THAT IN FORMAL ROLES, BUT YOU'VE BEEN SUCH A BIG PART OF THIS TOWN, YOU'RE WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC OF IT. HOW DO YOU EVEN BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT THAT? I WILL MISS YOUR CAREFULLY WORDED AND THOUGHTFUL PUBLIC COMMENTS. I THINK IT'S YOUR INSPIRATION THAT LEADS TO THESE NOTES TONIGHT BECAUSE I ALSO STRUGGLE WITH SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF, AND YOU'VE TAUGHT ME VERY WELL HOW TO PREPARE. YOUR DEEP APPRECIATION OF EASTERN EUROPEAN FOOD, [LAUGHTER] YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT SHE'S HUNGARIAN AND THAT I'M CZECH, BUT THAT'S BEEN A POINT OF BONDING FOR A LITTLE BIT, FOR YOUR ENDLESS ENERGY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GET IT. I THOUGHT I HAD ENERGY UNTIL THIS PAST SUMMER OR [01:45:02] THE SUMMER BEFORE WHEN YOU AND YOUR BIKE AND ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVENTS. WHEN I RETIRE ONE DAY OR IN THE FUTURE, YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, AND IT'S THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT YOU DO IT WITH. I HAD TO COME HERE AND SAY THAT TO YOU AND SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU ARE FREE. ENJOY THAT TIME FOR YOU. YOU'VE GIVEN SO MUCH TO US. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AND SHOW UP FOR YOU. I KNOW IT'S NOT A FULL GOODBYE YOU'RE JUST MOVING UP THE ROAD AS IT MAY BE. BUT WE HAD TO SAY THIS, CONGRATULATIONS AND WE'RE CHEERING YOU ON. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE THING PROBABLY AS WELL. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT IN MY LIFE THAT THE SCALE OF YOUR LIFE AT THE END WILL BE JUDGED ABOUT WHETHER YOU TOOK MORE FROM IT OR ADDED MORE TO IT. THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS INFINITELY BETTER OFF BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE. YOUR LIFE MEANT A DIFFERENCE TO THE TOWN, AND YOUR WORK HAS BEEN PROFOUND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, YOU GUYS. >> YOUR PARENTS MUST BE PROUD. [LAUGHTER] >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? >> NO MORE. [LAUGHTER] >> SERIOUS. [LAUGHTER] >> WE NEED TO. >> CONSULTING SERVICES. [LAUGHTER] >> JUST ON BEHALF OF STAFF, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE COMMISSION. WE'VE NOT ALWAYS AGREED ON ITEMS AND WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF DEBATES ON DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT I ALWAYS APPRECIATE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND UNDERSTANDING. THE WAY PEOPLE SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND WORKING TOGETHER AND EDUCATING EACH OTHER THROUGH THAT PROCESS THOUGH. I WISH YOU WELL, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU, GUYS. >> [OVERLAPPING] I WOULD SAY SOMETHING BUT I WON'T GET THROUGH IT. [LAUGHTER] >> WITH THAT, I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING, IT'S 08:47. [OVERLAPPING] >> THE CLOCK HASN'T BEEN UPDATED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.