[00:00:04] >> [BACKGROUND] THE TIME IS NOW 07:00 PM AND I'LL [Call to Order] CALL THE ORDER OF TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF THURSDAY, MARCH 9TH. WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN THE PLEDGE. >> DEAR GOD, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US STEP FORWARD AND WORK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. AMEN. >> AMEN. >> LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. >> IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. >> CAN WE HAVE ROLL-CALL, PLEASE? >> MAYOR KURETSKI? >> HERE. >> VICE MAYOR DELANEY? >> HERE. >> COUNCILOR MAY? >> HERE. >> COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER? >> HERE. >> COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM? >> HERE. >> TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW? >> HERE. >> TOWN ATTORNEY BARRY? >> HERE. >> TONIGHT, VERY FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, [1. Installation and Swearing-in of Council Members Ron Delaney and Cameron May by the Honorable Judge G. Joseph Curley.] WHICH HAPPENS ONCE A YEAR OR SO, IS INSTALLATION AND SWEARING IN OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, RON DELANEY AND CAMERON MAY. DOES THE TOWN ATTORNEY WANT TO SAY ANY WORDS BEFORE WE GET STARTED? >> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE THE HONORABLE JUDGE JOSEPH CURLY HERE ONCE AGAIN FOR A REPEAT PERFORMANCE. NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO COME BACK, BUT JUDGE CURLY ENJOYED THE EVENT LAST TIME, AND YOU MAY RECALL, WE HAD A VERY SIGNIFICANT LIFESAVING AWARD AT THAT WHICH WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE AND ENDEARING TO ALL OF US. JUDGE CURLY, I TOLD YOU ABOUT ALL OF THE ACCOLADES HE'S HAD AS A LAWYER DURING HIS CAREER BEFORE HE GOT ON THE BENCH, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE ONE FURTHER OBSERVATION ABOUT THIS. WE HAVE A THING IN THE LAW WHERE WE GO TO MOTION CALENDAR HEARINGS, AND THAT'S WHERE THERE ARE SHORT MOTIONS THAT ARE ARGUED IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE AND IT'S USUALLY A ROOM FULL OF LAWYERS, WHICH IS DAUNTING, BUT NOT FOR THE JUDGE. THE ARGUMENTS ARE MADE. I DREW AN ANALOGY WITH JUDGE CURLY BECAUSE HE WAS SUCH A FINE LAWYER THAT IF ANY OF YOU HAVE WATCHED THE LAST COUPLE YEARS KEN JENNINGS AS THE HOST OF JEOPARDY, YOU KNOW KEN JENNINGS WAS A CHAMPION OF JEOPARDY. WHEN HE ASKS THE QUESTIONS, I ALWAYS THINK, "KEN JENNINGS PROBABLY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO LOOK AT HIS NOTES TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. HE ALREADY KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THEM." THAT'S WHAT MOTION CALENDAR IS LIKE WITH JUDGE CURLY; IS THE ARGUMENTS ARE MADE, BUT HE ALREADY KNOWS THE ANSWER BEFORE THEY'RE MADE, AND INVARIABLY, HE'S ALWAYS CORRECT. SO A VERY FINE JUDGE, WE'RE VERY PRIVILEGED TO HAVE HIM HERE AGAIN, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE JUDGE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. >> THANK YOU TOM. WE GOT TWO TONIGHT. FIRST UP IS CAMERON MAY. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> OVER HERE. >> YOU GOT YOUR CREW? >> YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT. BRING THEM UP. [BACKGROUND] >> THIS IS THE BIBLE [INAUDIBLE]. I. >> I. >> CAMERON MAY. >> CAMERON MAY. >> DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. >> DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. >> THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION. >> THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION. >> AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> AND AT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. >> AND AT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. >> THAT I'M DULLY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE. >> THAT I'M DULLY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE. >> [INAUDIBLE]. THAT I WILL WELL. >> THAT I WILL WELL. >> AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM. >> AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM. >> THE DUTIES OF COUNCIL MEMBER. >> THE DUTIES OF COUNCIL MEMBER. >> WHICH I'M NOW ABOUT TO ENTER. >> WHICH I'M NOW ABOUT TO ENTER. >> SO HELP ME GOD. >> SO HELP ME GOD. [00:05:01] >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. [APPLAUSE] >> YOU DID A GOOD JOB. NEXT UP, MR. DELANEY. [BACKGROUND] >> IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >> HOW ARE YOU? [BACKGROUND] [NOISE] YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BIBLE? >> [LAUGHTER] NO, WE'RE GOOD. >> YOU READY? I RON DELANEY. >> I RON DELANEY. >> DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. >> DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. >> THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND PROTECT. >> THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND PROTECT. >> AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. >> AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. >> AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> AND AT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. >> AND AT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. >> THAT I'M DULLY QUALIFIED. >> THAT I'M DULLY QUALIFIED. >> TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE. >> TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE. >> THAT I WILL WELL. >> THAT I WILL WELL. >> AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM. >> AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM. >> THE DUTIES OF COUNCIL MEMBER. >> THE DUTIES OF COUNCIL MEMBER. >> WHICH I'M NOW ABOUT TO ENTER. >> WHICH I'M NOW ABOUT TO ENTER. >> SO HELP ME GOD. >> SO HELP ME GOD. >> CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND] >> COUNCIL DOES WISH TO THANK THE HONORABLE JUDGE FOR COMING AND BEING A PART OF THE SWEARING IN CEREMONY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [BACKGROUND] [APPLAUSE] WE TRY TO HAVE FUN UP HERE, SO IN RECOGNITION OF THE GRUELING ELECTION CAMPAIGN THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS WENT THROUGH, WE'LL GIVE THEM THREE MINUTES EACH TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE. >> SURE. JUST THINKING ABOUT TONIGHT, I GUESS ALL I CAN SAY IS I FEEL GRATEFUL TO BE IN A POSITION TO SERVE THIS GREAT TOWN OF OURS. I'D LIKE TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE MY FAMILY, AND WIFE AND KIDS FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT BECAUSE THIS TAKES A BIT OF TIME AWAY FROM THE FAMILY. I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I'M PROUD AND PLEASED TO SERVE WITH MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE HAVE GREAT A COUNCIL UP HERE. WE COME FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE AND PERSPECTIVES, BUT I THINK WE TEND TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS MOST OF THE TIMES, MAYBE ALL THE TIME. I'D LIKE TO THANK TOWN MANAGER AND OUR VERY COMPETENT AND CAPABLE STAFF. THEY MAKE OUR JOB SO MUCH EASIER AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANKS YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT. I'VE BEEN ON FOR SEVEN YEARS, THIS IS ANOTHER THREE-YEAR TERM. THIS IS FAR MORE GRATIFYING THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> JUST LIKE RON, IT'S DEFINITELY AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO SERVE, FOR ME, MY HOMETOWN. I'M A VERY EMOTIONAL PERSON, BUT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT HER TAKING CARE OF THE BOYS AND SUPPORTING ME DOING THIS. IT'S AWESOME. THIS IS ACTUALLY, I GUESS MY FIRST OFFICIAL SWEARING IN BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I GOT SWORN IN, IT WAS THE HEIGHT OF COVID. IT WAS ME, RON AND LAURA, I THINK WERE THE ONLY ONES IN THE CHAMBER FOR IT. MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I REALLY THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALWAYS WORKING TOGETHER AND DOING WHAT'S REALLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. STAFF, YOU GUYS MAKE THIS JOB INCREDIBLY EASY, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO. JUST THE COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORT US AND HAD FAITH IN MYSELF AND VICE MAYOR DELANEY TO RUN AGAIN UNOPPOSED, THANK YOU GUYS. [APPLAUSE] >> I DO WANT TO BEGIN BY WELCOMING JUPITER GIRL SCOUT TROOP [INAUDIBLE] WHO ARE ATTENDING TONIGHT'S MEETING. IT'S BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE UP HERE THAT THE GIRL SCOUTS WANT TO DO THINGS FIRST. WE HAVE NEVER DONE A PHOTO WITH THE TROOP BEFORE. WE'VE NEVER BEEN ASKED BEFORE, BUT DON'T SPREAD THE WORD AROUND. [LAUGHTER] WE DID IT BECAUSE YOU ASKED, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. WITH THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE JUDGE FEELS COMFORTABLE TO SCOOT OUT OF HERE ANYTIME YOU LIKE. DON'T FEEL COMPELLED TO SIT HERE. [BACKGROUND] SO MOVING ON TO THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA, [2. Bicycle Month – March 2023.] [00:10:02] WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION WHICH I UNDERSTAND WILL BE PRESENTING TO MR. THOMAS FERNANDEZ, WHO'S ON THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE PALM BEACH TPA AND MRS. SMITH'S STEPHANIE THORBURN WHO'S CHAIR FOR THE VISION ZERO ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SO I'LL BE PRESENTING IT TO BOTH OF THEM. THIS IS THE PROCLAMATION OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER DECLARING MARCH 2023 AS BICYCLE MONTH WHEREAS THE TOWN OF JUPITER RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ENGAGE IN BICYCLING AS A VIABLE, ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND FORM OF TRANSPORTATION AND EXCELLENT FORM OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND RECREATION, AND WHEREAS THE STATE OF FLORIDA RECOGNIZES MARCH OFFICIALLY AS BICYCLE MONTH, AND PALM BEACH COUNTY WILL RECOGNIZE IT LOCALLY. AND WHEREAS BICYCLE MONTH FEATURES A NUMBER OF FITNESS OPPORTUNITIES AND EVENTS FOR WRITERS OF ALL AGES TO ENJOY THROUGHOUT THE MONTH AT VARIOUS PARKS AND LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT PALM BEACH COUNTY. AND WHEREAS THE RECOGNITION OF FLORIDA BICYCLE MONTH WILL RAISE AWARENESS OF BICYCLING AND ULTIMATELY PROMOTE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND HEALTHY LIFESTYLES BY ELEVATING BICYCLING AS THE MORE WIDELY ACCEPTED CHOICE OF TRANSPORTATION. WHEREAS THE PALM BEACH COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AGENCY PLANS AND RECOMMENDS PROJECTS TO MAKE BICYCLING MORE ACCESSIBLE AND PROMOTES COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY EDUCATION EFFORTS AIMED AT IMPROVING BICYCLE SAFETY, AND WHEREAS THE TOWN OF JUPITER HAS ADOPTED THROUGH ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IN COORDINATION WITH THE PALM BEACH COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY, A BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN TO INCREASE THE AVAILABILITY AND SAFETY OF BICYCLE FACILITIES. AND WHEREAS THROUGH THESE EFFORTS, THE PARAMOUNT HAS OVER 60 MILES OF DESIGNATED BICYCLE AND MULTI-USE PATHS AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE A CONNECTED NETWORK OF IMPROVED BICYCLE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND SAFETY. NOW THEREFORE, I JIM KURETSKI, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH 2023 AS BICYCLE MONTH. [APPLAUSE] [NOISE] OKAY. MOVING ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS. [CITIZEN COMMENTS] THIS IS THE TIME FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS WHERE CITIZENS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. WE'D ASK ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PRIOR TO ADDRESSING THE TOWN COUNCIL. ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP DURING THIS TIME OF THE AGENDA ARE TYPICALLY REFERRED TO STAFF FOR FOLLOW-UP AND REPORT TO COUNSEL. WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, MAYOR. FIRST, YOU HAVE MARK PENTEL, AND THEN AFTER MARK IS TERI GROOMS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK PENTEL. I KNOW ALL OF YOU AND I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE CAM AND RON ON WINNING, AND IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. I'M HERE FOR BEST BUDDIES. BEST BUDDIES IS OUR ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. AND I BROUGHT WITH ME THE PROGRAM MANAGER FROM BEST BUDDIES. AND THE REASON WE'RE HERE IS WE WANTED TO INVITE EACH ONE OF YOU GUYS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BEST BUDDIES WALK ON APRIL 22, 2023. IT'S AT THE WEST PALM BEACH BALLPARK AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE ALL OF YOU GUYS PARTICIPATE, AS WELL AS YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS. THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT WHERE YOU'D SAY, OH, BRING A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A MAYOR, WE WANT YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS TOO. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MY FRIEND TYLER HERE WHO'S THE PROGRAM MANAGER TO FINISH. GOOD EVENING AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE RE-ELECTION. I HAVE 2 MIN AND I HAVE A SPEECH IMPEDIMENT SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK. MY NAME IS TYLER DESCENT SCHEME AND THE PROGRAM MANAGER, BEST BUDDIES PALM BEACH. BEST BUDDIES INTERNATIONAL NON-PROFIT DEDICATED TO HELP PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, OR IDD FOR SHORT. WE HAVE FOUR KEY PILLARS. FIRST IS OUR ONE-ON-ONE FRIENDSHIP PROGRAM, WHERE WE [INAUDIBLE] WITH THIS IDD AND WITHOUT THIS IN OUR SCHOOL PROGRAM AND OUR CITIZENS PROGRAM. [00:15:02] THE SECOND IS LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT SKILLS, WHERE WE HOST LOCAL, STATE AND INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCES. THIRD IS INTEGRATED EMPLOYMENT. SO ONCE SOMEONE WITH AN IDD GRADUATES HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE AND THEY WANT TO PURSUE A JOB. THEY COME TO US. WE HELPED WRITE A RESUME. WE HELP GETTING CONNECTION WITH THE JOB THAT THEY WANT, WHERE THEY ARE, WHAT? THE JOB INTERVIEW. AND WE STAY ON THE JOB UNTIL THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE TO DO IT BY THEMSELVES. AND THE FINAL IS SELF INCLUSION HOUSING, WHERE WE PAIR SOMEONE WITH AN IDD AND WITHOUT SO THEY FEEL SELF INDEPENDENT. AND AS MARK TOUCHED UPON, LET ME TURN THE SCRIPT. BEST BUDDIES HOSTED NUMEROUS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO BRING INCLUDES 72 PALM BEACH COUNTY. AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FRIENDS TO OUR LARGEST EVENT, OUR BEST BUDDIES FRIENDSHIP WALK. THIS FREE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE APRIL 22, 09:00 A.M. AT THE BALLPARK OF THE PALM BEACH. LAST YEAR WE RAISED SHY 170 K WITH 664 PARTICIPANTS. THIS YEAR OUR GOAL IS 180 K WITH 1,000 [INAUDIBLE] GREAT FLIERS HAD FOLDERS THAT HE BROUGHT TO EVERYBODY. AND SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE THEY SEE EVERYBODY APRIL 22, SO THANK YOU. JUST SAY ONE LAST THING. OTHER CITIES ARE PARTICIPATING. WE WANT YOU GUYS TO LEAD US SO JUPITER IS NUMBER ONE. [APPLAUSE] AFTER TERI GROOMS IT'S. PENNY [INAUDIBLE] GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. TERI GROOMS NORTH PERRY AVENUE. FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO SAY WELCOME TO THE GIRL SCOUTS WORKING ON THEIR INSIDE GOVERNMENT BADGE. ALL RIGHT. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO COUNSELOR DELANEY AND COUNSELOR MAY ON YOUR NEXT THREE YEARS. TONIGHT, I'M HERE TO FORMALLY AND PUBLICLY RESUBMIT THE REQUESTS THAT THE NEW TOWN OR THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING BE NAMED IN HONOR OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO. OUR FIRST OUR TOWN'S FIRST POLICE OFFICER IN ITS FIRST AMONG US SERVING POLICE CHIEF. IT WAS IN 2019 WHEN I FIRST EMAILED THE VENT COUNCIL, TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF TO REQUEST THAT THE BUILDING WE NAMED IN HONOR OF CHIEF MAN. LIKE I SAID, IT WAS 2019. AND TODAY WE HAVE A DIFFERENT COUNSEL AT DIFFERENT MAYOR AND OF COURSE A COMPLETELY NEW IN TOWN MANAGER. AND SHE GETS HER SORRY. SO WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT. AND SO THE LAST TIME I JUST DID AN E-MAIL AND TRIED TO CONVINCE YOU ALL TO SUPPORT THIS NAMING. SO TONIGHT I MADE A LITTLE PACKET. IT'S GOT SOME FUN FACTS ABOUT CHIEF MAYO. IT'S A COPY OF A STATE STATUTE THAT HONORED HIM AND SOME NEWSPAPER ARTICLES THAT THE FUN FACTS ABOUT HIS SERVICE TO OUR TOWN. THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS ONLY HAD FIVE POLICE CHIEFS. THE FIRST WAS GLYNN MAYO, FOLLOWED BY RICHARD WESTGATE, AND THEN OUR TOWN MANAGER, CHIEF FRANK [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE]. HE WAS FOLLOWED BY CHIEF CURRY. AND NOW WE HAVE CHIEF ENGLAND. CHIEF MAYO WAS HONORED FOR SERVICE BY STATE STATUE AND A SO WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC OF THE TOWN THAT HE'S FEATURED IN SUCH HISTORY BOOKS AS THE LUX ACTUALLY LIMIT AND 5,000 YEARS ON THE LUX ACHI IN WHICH I'VE COPIED SOME OF THOSE PAGES FOR YOU. HE WAS RESPECTED BY THE COMMUNITY THAT HE SERVED AND BY THOSE THAT SERVED WITH HIM. I'VE NOT FOUND A SINGLE PERSON THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT THE DEDICATION OF THE NEW POLICE BUILDING AND HIS HONOR. AND SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL NOW SUPPORT THIS CAMPAIGN AND AT LEAST ONE MEMBER WILL MAKE IT. IT'S ACHIEVED STRATEGIC INITIATIVE FOR THE COMING YEAR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE] >> PENNY PAYNE AND THEN BRAD MAYO OR BRENT LEONI. [LAUGHTER] >> COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD BRENT LEONI, I'M A RESIDENT HERE IN JUPITER. COUNCIL MEMBER MAY, VICE MAYOR DELANEY CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RE-APPOINTMENT TO THE COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT WHAT TERRY JUST SPOKE ABOUT NAMING THE NEW POLICE STATION IN HONOR OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO. AS I SERVED, ACTUALLY GROWING UP I DIDN'T KNOW THIS AT THE TIME GREW UP WITH TAYLOR MAYO SON OF BRAD MAYO. [00:20:02] BRAD IS THE SON OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO. AS SERVING ON THE HISTORIC RESOURCES BOARD, I HAD A CHANCE AND HONOR TO SERVE WITH BRAD AND GET TO KNOW HIM AND STORIES ABOUT HIS FAMILY AND MANY MORNINGS OF BREAKFAST OVER AT THE CENTER STREET NOOK RIGHT IN THE OLD STOMPING GROUNDS OF OLD TOWN HALL WHICH I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU ALL ABOUT BEFORE. I GOT TO KNOW SOME REALLY INTERESTING STORIES AND INTERESTING FACTS WHICH TERRY NICELY PUT SOME OF THOSE IN A PACKET IF YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THAT. BRAD AND I STARTED TALKING BACK IN 2019 ABOUT HOW TO HONOR HIS FATHER AND SOME OF THE REALLY INTERESTING STORIES AND SACRIFICES THAT CHIEF MAYO MADE TO HIS FAMILY. IT WAS A ONE MAN POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME. HIS BEDSIDE, NIGHTSTAND WAS THE EVIDENCE LOCKER AND THE PHONE NEXT TO THE BED WAS THE LINE TO THE POLICE STATION SO HE WAS AVAILABLE 24/7, WHEREAS I'M SURE CHIEF KITZEROW AND CHIEF ENGLAND CAN ATTEST IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH TECHNOLOGY THESE DAYS. AS WE STARTED TALKING THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND BRAD HAS TALKED TO A FEW OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST THAT YOU ALL SUPPORT NAMING THE NEW POLICE STATION JUST BUILT OVER HERE IN HONOR OF CHIEF GLYNN MAYO FOR HIS SUPPORT AND SACRIFICE FOR OVER 28 YEARS GROWING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM ONE MEMBER. THE PAPER SAYS 55, BUT BRAD HAS TOLD ME IT'S PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THAT BECAUSE HE WAS REALLY HUMBLE AND DIDN'T WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW HOW MANY POLICE OFFICERS HE HAD ACTUALLY. HOPE YOU ALL SUPPORT THE REQUEST TONIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> PENNY PAYNE AND THEN BRAD MAYO. >> PENNY PAYNE, I LIVE IN THE FARMS. AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS BOTH CAM AND RON ON YOUR RE-ELECTION. I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE STILL HERE. I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE MY FATHER SERVED WITH GLYNN MAYO AND I KNOW THE LIFE'S HISTORY. I'M GOING TO REMIND YOU THAT OUR JUPITER POLICE CADET PROGRAM THAT BEGAN UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF GLYNN MAYO IS WHAT TRANSLATED TO WHAT OUR BOY SCOUTS ARE AND, OF COURSE, THAT TRANSLATED TO OUR GIRL SCOUTS THAT ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT. JUST A QUICK READ. I'LL TRY TO SQUEEZE THIS IN REALLY FAST. SORRY. THOSE DAYS OF PATROLLING OUR STREETS, VISITING OUR SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS EXPLAINING CRIME STATS, TEACHING ABOUT DRUGS, LOOKING OUT FOR OUR SENIORS, OUR FAMILIES AND OUR YOUTH. MANY DAYS FOLLOWING SOMEONE HOME TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE SAFE AND CALLING A FAMILY MEMBER WHEN ASSISTANCE WAS NEEDED. PULLING FRIENDS AND FAMILY FROM ACCIDENTS AND UNFORTUNATE HAZARDS, HAVING DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS AND AT TIMES ARREST WITH THOSE YOU WENT TO CHURCH WITH OR THOSE THAT YOU SHARED CHATS WITH AT THE LOCAL FIVE AND DIME. JUPITER WAS A MUCH DIFFERENT PLACE IN THE 50S WHEN CHIEF MAYO WAS APPOINTED CONSTABLE AND THEN CHIEF OF POLICE. WITHOUT HIS UNWAVERING EFFORT AND DEDICATION TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE RESIDENTS AND THE GUESTS OF OUR TOWN, WE MAY NOT SEE JUPITER AS IT IS TODAY. WE MAY HAVE FALLEN TO THOSE CHALLENGES OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST, TO THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH AND MICROCOSM UP BROUGHT MANY CULTURES, DIFFERENT CAREERS, TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGES AND OF COURSE GROWTH. THROUGH IT ALL, CHIEF MAYO GREW THE DEPARTMENT, TAUGHT OUT LEADERSHIP, MENTORED OUR CADETS, AND MAINTAINED THE CALM WE EXPECT IN JUPITER. MY DAD WAS AND STILL IS PROUD TO HAVE SERVED WITH CHIEF MAYO. I WATCHED THAT VIDEO AND I LOOK AT THAT PHOTOGRAPH THAT HANGS ON MY WALL OF CAPTAIN ROBERT PRICE AND HIS FULL UNIFORM AND METALS ALONGSIDE OF CHIEF MAYO AND TOM BRAUDEL AND THE OTHER FAMILIES KNOWING THAT I WAS RAISED IN A TIME OF ETHICS AND INTEGRITY AND DEDICATION. MOST OF ALL, I'LL NEVER FORGET HIM AS A PIECE OF OUR HISTORY, CHIEF MAYO AND HEARING JUPITER. I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER LEAVING HIS LEGACY ON THE BUILDING AND REMINDING US OF THE TUTELAGE THAT HE LEFT WITH US. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> BRAD MAYO AND THEN ANDREW WATSON. >> BRAD MAYO, 953 TOWN HALL AVENUE. CONGRATULATIONS COUNCILMAN RON AND COUNCILMAN CAM. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING UP THERE. I GET A LITTLE EMOTIONAL TEARS SO FORGIVE ME IF I GET TEARED UP TALKING ABOUT MY DAD. TERRY, KINDER HUMBLE HE DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT OUR FATHERS SERVED TOGETHER. HER DAD BEING THE FIRE CHIEF AND MY DAD BEING A POLICE CHIEF BACK IN THAT TIME PERIOD ALONG WITH HER UNCLE WHO SERVED ON MY DAD'S POLICE FORCE AND WAS A FIREMAN. I HAVE A LOT OF GOOD MEMORIES AT THAT TIME. MY SISTERS AND I HAVE SOME REALLY CRAZY MEMORIES OF THAT TIME ACTUALLY AND JUST STORIES THAT WENT ALONG WITH MY FATHER, BUT WE'VE GOT TO LEAD THE PARADE EVERY YEAR IN THE POLICE CAR AND WE GOT TO HANG OUT, TAKE NAPS IN THE JAIL CELLS IN THE OLD TOWN HALL [00:25:01] AND JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT IT MADE IT ALL REALLY NEAT. THERE'S A LOT OF DARK STUFF THAT WENT WITH IT TOO THAT WE WATCHED OUR DAD GO THROUGH WHEN HE WAS PULLING SOMEBODY OUT OF A CAR OR A KID OUT OF THE RIVER OR SOMETHING WENT SIDEWAYS. IT WAS SOMEBODY THAT HE KNEW. IT WAS SOMEBODY THAT HE WENT TO SCHOOL WITH, IT WAS SOMEBODY THAT HE GREW UP WITH. IT WASN'T JUST SOMEBODY IT WAS A LOT DIFFERENT. UNFORTUNATELY, A GOOD FRIEND OF HIS TOOK HIS LIFE AND HE NOT ONLY HAD TO INVESTIGATE IT BUT HE HAD TO TAKE THE PICTURES AND HELP CLEAN IT UP AFTERWARDS. IT TOOK A STALL ON MY DAD BUT HE GAVE HIS WHOLE ADULT LIFE TO THIS TOWN. ALMOST 30 YEARS OF HIS ADULT LIFE BUILDING THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT FROM ONE MAN. EXCUSE ME. FROM ONE GUY TO WHAT WAS PUT IN THE PAPER WHICH WAS 55 PEOPLE, 55 MEN THAT'S NOT COUNT AND SUPPORT STAFF AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WENT WITH IT AND HE DID IT ALL A LOT OF IT ON HIS OWN DIME. GLYNN MAYO HIGHWAY GOT NAMED AFTER MY DAD BECAUSE HE WENT IN AND LOBBIED TALLAHASSEE TO FOUR LANE THAT ROAD BECAUSE OF A FRIEND TO HIS SON THAT PASSED AWAY IN A CAR WRECK ON THAT ROAD ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT JUST NAMING THE ROAD AFTER HIM TO NAME IT, IT WAS BECAUSE IN MY OPINION HE EARNED IT. HE WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR PEOPLE. THAT PHONE RANG, THAT RADIO WENT OFF HE WAS OUT THE DOOR FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, TWO O'CLOCK AT NIGHT HE WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR PEOPLE. IT WOULD BE A REAL HONOR TO SEE HIS NAME ON THAT BUILDING. THANKS. [APPLAUSE]. >> ANDY WESTERN. >> GOOD EVENING. ANDY WESTERN, 949 DOLPHIN. >> MY FAVORITE SUBJECT, DOLPHIN DRIVE. THIS IS WHAT I SENT YOU ALL A PICTURE. THIS IS LOCKE'S THE HATCHING. THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER DAVID'S, THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS DUG IT UP. NOTHING THERE. HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO PUT FOUR FEET OF ASPHALT ALONGSIDE THAT ROAD? THAT IS THE QUESTION FOR TONIGHT. I LOOKED AT IT, I SAID IT'S ABOUT 11,100 FEET DOWN THE ROAD. IT'S ALL ON ONE SIDE, FOUR FEET, FIVE DOLLARS A FOOT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD. FRANK, I HOPE YOU CAN MAYBE FRAME THAT UP AND GET WHETHER I'M RIGHT OR WRONG. THOUSAND FEET, 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF ASPHALT AND ROCK IT'S ABOUT $20,000. COME ON GUYS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS LIFE SAFETY. TWENTY FEET ROAD YOU'VE GOT AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 20 FEET, YOU'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK ON IT, WHY NOT? I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF TOWN ATTORNEY BRAD COULD MAYBE ENLIGHTEN ME IS WHY THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CODE ON THIS ROAD. THAT'S MY REQUEST TONIGHT AND I'LL PROBABLY KEEP COMING. I HOPE SOMEBODY MAYBE DAVID CAN ENGAGE WITH ME. YOU'VE GOT 90% PLANS TO GET THIS THING. DAVID SAID HE'S GOING TO START BIDDING IT. WE SHOULD HAVE THIS INCLUDED IN THAT BID. THEN MAYBE YOU CAN THROW ME UNDER THE BUS, BUT PLEASE LET'S GET SOMETHING DONE WITH THAT. I APPRECIATE. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. [APPLAUSE] >> THAT'S RIGHT. COUNCILOR, WE HAVE BEFORE US THE MINUTES WITH [3. February 21, 2023 Town Council Meeting Minutes.] SOME CORRECTIONS ON THE DAIS FOR THE FEBRUARY 21ST TOWN COUNCIL MEETING. IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THEM? CAN I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION IS SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] THESE ARE ITEMS 4-7 ON THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO PULL ONE OF THESE ITEMS? >> NO, MAYOR. >> ANYBODY ON THE DAIS? SEEING, CAN I HAVE A MOTION? A SECOND. TO ADOPT. >> SECOND. >> MOTION IS SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ENTER THE REGULAR AGENDA. [8.A. Ordinance 3-23, Second Reading - Quasi-judicial – Amendment to an approved planned unit development (PUD) to modify previously approved conditions of approval in regards to parking, sound and events.] [00:30:01] THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS ON HERBICIDE ORDINANCE 3-23 AND RESOLUTION 14-23. THIS BEING A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING, I'D ASK FIRST OF COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION SINCE THE LAST MEETING? >> NO. >> SEE NONE, I'D ASK THE TOWN CLERK TO SWEAR IN WITNESSES OR THE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE TOWN THAT INTEND TO GIVE EXPERT WITNESS TESTIMONY. >> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS HEARING IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING, BUT THE TRUTH? >> I'LL BEGIN BY TURNING OVER THE APPLICANT FOR ITS PRESENTATION. >> FOR THE RECORD, I'M WILLIAM ADENINE WITH TGHO. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AND CONGRATULATIONS COUNCILOR RON AND CAM. TONIGHT, WE WERE JUST BEFORE YOU. I CAN SHOW THE PRESENTATION AGAIN. I WANT NICHOLAS TO SPEAK FOR A MOMENT, BUT JUST A SIMPLE REMINDER. IT'S JUST VERY SIMPLE. THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT CHANGES OF USE IN BUILDING 3A. ADDING RESTAURANT. TAKING AWAY SOME RETAIL. ADDING SOME STORAGE. ADDING OUTDOOR DINING, AND THEN THE INDOOR RECREATION CHANGED TO OFFICE UP ON THE THIRD FLOOR. THE ELIMINATION OF THE OUTDOOR VENUE DESIGNATION, AND TO MODIFY PREVIOUSLY PROVED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN REGARDS TO USES, PARKING, SOUND EVENTS TO ALLOW FOR THE ABOVE TO HAPPEN, PLUS PERMITTING THE USE OF UP TO 68 OF THE 95 SURPLUS PARKING SPACES FOR THE BUILDING A USE CHANGES. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE NICHOLAS MASTROIANNI TO COME UP TO SAY A FEW WORDS. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I CAN SHOW THE POWERPOINT. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. NICHOLAS MASTROIANNI FOR THE APPLICANT. I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT GIRL SCOUTS WOULD STAY. THEY MADE IT FEEL SOFT AND FUZZY AND WARM IN HERE. BUT I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET THE OTHER MOMENT JUST TO THANK EVERYONE. THANK THE STAFF FOR WORKING SO DILIGENTLY WITH US. WE ALWAYS DID THIS ON A, WELL, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT LATELY IT'S BEEN ON A TIMELINE AND EVERYONE HAS PUT FORTH THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD. I WANT TO THANK THEM. I WANT TO THANK TOM, MANAGER, AND THANK MR. BAIRD AND ALSO FOR HIS DILIGENCE IN WORK IN COOPERATION AND KEEPING EVERYTHING IN TRACK. THANK [INAUDIBLE] FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. I'M JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE SO. WELL, HOPEFULLY WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING SOME FIRST STEP FOR MAN, SMALL STEP FOR MANKIND. WE'LL BACK. THERE'S MORE TO CLEAN UP AT HERBICIDE. CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE STAFF AND THE TOWN ON CONTINUING TO IMPROVE UPON THINGS AND GET THINGS MOVING FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH EACH OTHER FROM HERE ON OUT. AND SO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO BEING HERE AGAIN IN THE FUTURE, FOLLOWING UP ON THIS, TO MAKE SOME MORE OF THOSE CHANGES AND ADDRESS SOME MORE OF THE PARKING, THE GARAGES, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THANK YOU ALL. I GUESS, I'LL KEEP THE REMAINING TIME. >> TURNING TO STAFF THAT FIRST ASKED THE TOWN ATTORNEY YOU HAVE SOME. >> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE WANTED TO PUT THIS IN SOME FRAMEWORK BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THIS GREW OUT OF A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS REACHED. ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES ABOUT IT IS THAT NORMALLY THE STAFF DOES A RESOLUTION AND AN ORDINANCE THAT I REVIEW. IN THIS CASE, STAFF DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT I HAD BECAUSE I PARTICIPATED ALONG WITH WYMAN REYNOLDS IN THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSIONS AND BY LAW STAFF CANNOT PRESENT IT. SO THAT ORDINANCE AND THAT RESOLUTION I PREPARED AND THE INTENTION OF THE TWO DOCUMENTS WAS TO REFLECT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. SO THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT ARISE AS PART OF THAT AND ONE IS TO SOME EXTENT AS OPPOSED TO KEEPING. BUT AFTER THE AGENDA WAS DISTRIBUTED WITH RESOLUTION 14-23 IN IT, [00:35:08] WHICH CONTAINED A PROVISION REGARDING, I'LL CALL IT FREE PARKING. I RECEIVED SOME QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THE INCLUSION OF SECTION 4, WHICH MANDATED THE FREE PARKING AS A CONDITION. IT WAS UNCLEAR AT THAT TIME, WHEN I WAS PREPARING THAT AGENDA ITEM EXACTLY WHAT HAD COME OUT OF THAT MEETING. MR. REYNOLDS AND I WENT BACK, WE LOOKED AT OUR NOTES. WE DISCUSSED THE ITEM. WE CONSIDER SOME OF THE DRAFTS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAD BEEN CIRCULATED TO COUNSEL IN THE SESSIONS. AND WE CONCLUDED THAT FREE PARKING WAS NOT IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. COUNCIL WANTED TO CONCENTRATE ON BUILDING 3A ON THE EVENT SCHEDULE AND ALSO ON THE 95 PARKING SPACES. THE INTENT THAT WE DREW FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT COUNCIL HAD AT YOUR MEETINGS WAS THAT FREE PARKING WAS AN ISSUE. IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WILL BE DEALT WITH LATER, BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET THROUGH THIS FIRST HURDLE BECAUSE AS MR. MASTROIANNI NOTED, THERE WERE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. WE INTEND AT OUR LEVEL TO WORK WITH THEM AND DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED IN A WAY THAT COUNCIL FINDS TO BE SATISFACTORY. SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND AS PART OF YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, WHEN STAFF MAKES ITS RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU CONSIDER IF YOU BELIEVE FREE PARKING WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE IN THIS RESOLUTION, THAT YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE RESOLUTION. IT'S SECTION 4 OF THE RESOLUTION AND THERE'S SOME REFERENCE TO IT IN THE TITLE. THAT CAN BE EASILY ACCOMPLISHED IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S DESIRE. THE SECOND ITEM IS ORDINANCE 3-23. NOT A VERY BIG ITEM, BUT THE ORDINANCE READS UP TO 68 PARKING SPACES , SURPLUS PARKING SPACES. WITH THE ACTUAL PARKING CALCULATIONS, IT'S 66. SO THE ORDINANCE OUGHT TO REFLECT THAT NUMBER. THAT'S A CHANGE IN SECTION 2 OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BE MADE IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL CONCLUDES. SO IT'S CONDITION NUMBER 15 AND RESOLUTION 14 OR CONDITION NUMBER 15, AND AN ORDINANCE 14-08, THAT WOULD ALLOW 66 SPACES TO BE USED FOR THE THOSE NEW LEASES IN BUILDING 3A. WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE EITHER NOW OR AFTER THE STAFF PRESENTATION. >> WE GO TO STAFF. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, PETER MEYER, SENIOR PLANNER STAFF. THE APPLICATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION BY A TOWN COUNCIL TONIGHT IS A SECOND READING OF THE PUD AMENDMENT TO MODIFY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN REGARDS TO PARKING, SOUND AND EVENTS. ALSO A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO MODIFY USES, ADDRESS PARKING, AND OUTDOOR SEATING FOR BUILDING 3A. IN ADDITION, REPEAL AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE AN OUTDOOR VENUE AND REPLACE IT WITH A REQUIREMENT TO SUBMIT AN ANNUAL EVENT SCHEDULE FOR THE 24 COMMUNITY EVENTS UP TO TENANT, WHICH CAN BE LIVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC EVENTS, AND CONTINUE TO PERMIT ROUTINE EVENTS SUCH AS THE WATERFRONT MARKET, YOGA, AND CAR SHOWS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY A TOWN'S CODE APPLIANCE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION PROPOSES THE FOLLOWING CHANGES AND USES IN BUILDING 3A. ONE'S CHANGED 9,595 SQ FT OF RETAIL TO 7,252 SQ FT OF RESTAURANT AND 2,343 SQ FT OF ACCESSORY STORAGE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. TWO, CHANGE 3,933 SQ FT OF INDOOR RECREATION USE TO OFFICE ON THE THIRD FLOOR. THIRD, ADD 1,215 SQ FT OF OUTDOOR SEATING TO THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT OF WHICH 490 SQ FT OF OUTDOOR SEATING IS REQUIRED YOU PARKED CONSISTENT WITH THE TIME CODE. THERE ARE NO SITE CHANGES TO PROPOSE WITH APPLICATION. IF APPROVED, THE APPLICATION WOULD MODIFY CONDITION 15 OF ORDINANCE 14-08 OF RESOLUTION 25-08 THAT REGUIRE 95 SURPLUS PARKING SPACES WITHIN HARBOR SITE. IN ORDINANCE, THE CONDITION WOULD BE ADMITTED TO RETAINING 27 OF THE 95 SPACES FOR SURPLUS PARKING. [00:40:03] HOWEVER, IN THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION, PROPOSED MIX OF USES RETAINS 29 SURPLUS PARKING SPACES AS DETAILED IN THE DATA ON THE OVERALL SITE PLAN AND A SHARED PARKING TABLE. STAFF HAS REVIEWED TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO PUD AND SITE PLAN AND FINDS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ORDINANCE 3-23 FOR THE PUD AND RESOLUTION 14-234 SITE PLAN WORK ASSIST WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MEET A TIMECODE. LIKE TO SAVE THE REMAINDER TIME FOR REBUTTAL. THANKS. >> TURN TO COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO. >> OKAY. MOVING ON. ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS? >> NO, MAYOR. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. I GUESS I CAN JUST TURN BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND STAFF IF THERE'S ANY FINAL REMARKS YOU WANT TO MAKE HERE. I JUST HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY AND STAFF MAYBE NONE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BURN THE TIME. >> I'LL JUST SAY A FEW WORDS THAT ARE OUR COMMENTS WERE BASED UPON THAT THERE WOULD BE NO FREE PARKING DISCUSSION FOR THIS APPLICATION. WE AGREE WITH THAT. >> BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DELIBERATION. ANYBODY WANT TO? >> [NOISE] I DON'T SUPPORT INCLUDING THE FREE PARKING INTO THE RESOLUTION WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT WE HAD AGREED TO OR THE COMPROMISE WE HAVE MADE WHILE THE ISSUES WE DISCUSSED WAS LIMITED TO WHAT WE SAW THE FIRST TIME. I FOR ONE WAS ALWAYS A FAN OF KEEPING THIS AS NARROW AS POSSIBLE. THEN OTHER ISSUES CAN COME UP AND BE DEALT WITH LATER. I WOULD PREFER FOR US TO STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL VERSION WITHOUT INCLUDING THE FREE PARKING. >> I CAN SECOND THOSE COMMENTS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH REMOVING IT AND DEALING WITH IT LATER ON FOR FUTURE APPLICATIONS. >> I'M STILL CONFUSED OVER THE PARKING AND SORRY, TOM AND JERRY, YOU HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THAT BEFORE. CAN YOU GO OVER THAT ONE MORE TIME? I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THE MIX-UP WITH THIS ITEM. >> CAN'T DISCUSS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION. BUT I CAN SAY THAT OUR REVIEW OF OUR NOTES FROM THAT SESSION REVEALED THAT AS COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER INDICATED, THE COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS WAS TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THE ORDINANCE ONLY. THAT BEING THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT FREE PARKING. BUT IN THE END, THAT IS THE CONSENSUS WAS DEAL WITH THE OUTDOOR VENUE AND SUBSTITUTION OF THE EVENT SCHEDULE, DEAL WITH THE UP TO 68 PARKING SPACES AND DEAL WITH THE CHANGE OF TWO USES IN BUILDING 3A. THAT'S WHAT'S CONTAINED IN THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT'S CONTAINED IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I THINK THE CONFUSION THAT WE HAD WHEN WE WENT BACK, MR. REYNOLDS AND I WENT BACK OVER OUR NOTES WAS THAT THERE WAS COMMENTS ABOUT FREE PARKING AND THE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT THOSE WERE MADE IN THE CONTEXT OF ADDRESSING KNOWS THAT ISSUE WHEN THE APPLICANT CAME BACK AT A LATER TIME. BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT WAS MADE THAT WE SHOULD KEEP IT NARROW AND WE SHOULD DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE IN THE ORDINANCE. >> SORRY, I WAS [NOISE] TRYING TO READ THROUGH IT. DO WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THIS TONIGHT REGARDING THE 66 OR 68 PARKING SPACES? >> WELL, YES. IN THE ORDINANCE, IN SECTION 3 OR SECTION 2, YOU WOULD DELETE, ALLOW UP TO 68 AND INSERT 66 AS THE NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT IS BASED ON THE PARKING CALCULATIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND THE APPLICANT CRUNCHED. THAT IS THE NECESSARY SPACES TO SERVE THOSE CHANGE ABUSES. >> OKAY. [00:45:02] >> THEN IN THE RESOLUTION, SEPARATE FROM THE ORDINANCE IN THE RESOLUTION, IT WOULD JUST BE ELIMINATE SECTION 4. >> OKAY. >> JOHN SACKLER FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S ALSO A REFERENCE TO 68 SPACES. IT DOES INDICATE UP TO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT. [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING LESS THAN INTENSITY. YOU'RE NOT INCREASING THE INTENSITY. >> THAT'S ALL I GOT. >> I THINK IT WAS CLEAR A POSITION ON TWO MEMBERS UP HERE AND TWO ASKED QUESTIONS, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEIR POSITION IS. JUST FOR THE RECORD EVEN IN LAST MEETING, I STATED IN THE MINUTES WE ADOPTED. I RELIED UPON WHAT I THOUGHT WAS GOOD FAITH UNDERSTANDINGS THAT THE APPLICANT WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH INCLUDED ELIMINATING PAID PARKING. BITTER DISAPPOINTMENT TO ME. THAT BEING SAID, I'LL SUPPORT THIS ONE TONIGHT. BUT A GOOD FAITH REPRESENTATION WAS MADE. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE I PERSONALLY WILL SUPPORT IT IF WE CHANGE THE ITEM THAT MR. BAIRD MENTIONED, WHICH IS IN SECTION 2. ALLOW UP TO 68 CONTENT CLEARLY WAS WHATEVER THE CALCULATION SHOWED, 66. >> MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE AVOIDER SHOULD HAVE THE PAID PARKING WAS GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO US AT A LATER TIME. >> WASN'T MINE, BUT I'LL GO ALONG WITH IT. >> IT WASN'T MINE EITHER. >> NO. I THINK, THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED AND I HAD RAISED SEVERAL. THEN THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO KEEP THIS NARROW AND THINGS WILL BE DEALT WITH LATER. FOR ME, A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE SOMETHING COME UP NOW WHEN I HAD ISSUES THAT I AGREED TO TABLE LATER IN THE SPIRIT OF TRYING TO GET THIS DONE. I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT AT THE LAST MINUTE, AT THE 11TH HOUR TO BRING THIS UP WHEN WE CLEARLY TALKED ABOUT IT, DECIDED NOT TO DO IT. THEN THERE WERE OTHER ISSUES THAT I PUT ASIDE TO STICK WITH THE WITH THE IDEA OF KEEPING THIS NARROW AND MOVING IT ALONG. >> A BIT IN THE LAST MINUTE, I HAD CLEAR UNDERSTANDING TO RECORD SHOWS THAT, BUT I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT IT. >> THE RECORD DOES SHOW IT AFTER A VIEW AS WELL. BUT IN THE SPIRIT OF SETTLEMENT, I WILL ALSO SUPPORT IT. >> CAN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? >> MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 323, WITH THE CHANGING THE PARKING SPACE CALCULATION TO 66. >> IF THAT'S YOUR MOTION. >> CHANGE TO 66. >> SECOND. >> I'M GOING TO VOTE TO REMOVE SECTION THE CHANGES THAT WEREN'T SECOND. >> SECTION 4 IS THE RESOLUTION, CORRECT? >> THAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION. RIGHT. >> OKAY. >> WHEN DO YOU SEPARATELY. >> THAT'S A SEPARATE MOTION. >> WANT A MOTION FOR THAT ONE NOW ALSO? >> YEAH. ACTUALLY THEM SEPARATELY. THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ORDINANCE 323 ON SECOND READING AND ASK THE TERMINATOR READ IT ON SHORT TITLE. >> ORDINANCE 323 AND ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCILOR TURNER, JUPITER, FLORIDA, IMPROVING ANNUITY, THE HERBICIDE PLACE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF THE USES OF RETAIL OFFICES, RESTAURANTS, INTO A RECREATION STORAGE LOCALE AND MARINA ON NINE ACRES LOCATED THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF [INAUDIBLE] AND INDIAN TOWN ROAD FOR WRITING FOR THE REPEAL OF THE AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH AN OUTDOOR VENUE, PREVENTING FOR AIR CONDITIONING AND REQUIRING THE SUBMISSION OF AN ANNUAL PROGRAM EVENTS SCHEDULED WITH A SPECIFIED NUMBER OF EVENTS, AND LIMITING THE NUMBER OF LIVE MUSIC EVENTS AND THEIR VOLUME. PREVENTING FROM THE AMENDMENT OF A CONDITION THAT REQUIRED THE MAINTENANCE OF MANUFACTURING SURPLUS PARKING SPACES IN A MONTH HORIZON UP TO 68 OR THOSE PARKING SPACES TO BE ALLOCATED TO THE CHANGE OF USES AND BUILDING 3A PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT OF ORDINANCES 1408, 4410, 113, AND 5013 TO THE EXTENT OF CONFLICT AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> WHAT'S MY SECOND ON [INAUDIBLE]. FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO RESOLUTION 14-23. [8.B. Resolution 14-23, - Quasi-judicial – Amendment to an approved site plan to modify uses and address parking and outdoor seating; and to repeal authorization to create an outdoor venue.] IF I CAN GET A MOTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 14-23, REPEALING SECTION 4 MANDATED FREE PARKING. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. [00:50:06] MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9. [9. Funding plan for Roger Dean Stadium Improvements.] WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON THE FUNDING PLAN FOR ROGER DEAN STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS. [NOISE] >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. CONGRATULATIONS BY THE WAY. IF YOU REMEMBER, BY THE WAY, SCOTT REYNOLDS, TOWN OF JUPITER FINANCE DIRECTOR. IF YOU REMEMBER RIGHT BACK IN NOVEMBER, WE HAD A ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. THERE WERE THREE ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED FOR CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE OVERALL DISCUSSION OF THE COUNCIL, WHICH WAS THE UPGRADES OF THE MARLINS QUAD FIELD HOUSE, ALSO LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS OR REPLACEMENT AT THE FIELDS. THERE WAS ALSO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ENTRY PLAZA UPGRADES, AND ALSO SOME PUBLIC ART LOOKING FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT TO ANY CONTRIBUTION THAT WAS MADE TO THE CITY OF IMPROVEMENTS. THERE WAS ALSO A DISCUSSION ABOUT FUNDING SHOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON A COMMITMENT FOR PERPETUAL ACCESS TO THE NORTH QUAD AREA WITH AN EASEMENT THROUGH AN INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT. ALSO, THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR US TO COME BACK WITH A FUNDING PLAN. HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THESE ITEMS IF YOU CONSIDERED TO MOVE FORWARD? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO THIS EVENING, IS WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THESE ITEMS? THEN ULTIMATELY, WHAT WOULD THE COUNCIL LIKE TO SEE? SO THAT WAS SYNOPSIS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER. THEN MOVING FORWARD, I THINK MIKE BOWER AND THE STADIUM IS HERE. WE'VE MET WITH MIKE BOWER IN-BETWEEN THAT MEETING AND THIS EVENING, FORMED UP THE NUMBERS FROM NOVEMBER OF SOME OF THE ITEMS AND ALSO THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE STADIUM, SO WE FELT IT'S IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST SHOW THE COUNCIL THOSE ITEMS THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. YOU CAN SEE FROM LOOKING AT THE THE INITIAL REQUESTS BACK IN NOVEMBER, THERE HAS BEEN A SLIGHT INCREASE BECAUSE SOME OF THE NUMBERS HAD AN INCREASE FOR THE PUBLIC ART AND THE ENTRY PLAZA UPGRADES OR THE HARD SCAPE IN FRONT OF THE STADIUM. THE TOTAL IS $2.8 MILLION. COMING UP WITH A BLEND OF FUNDING TYPES TO HELP PAY FOR THAT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX MONEY. I'LL TALK IN THE NEXT SLIDE ABOUT THE FORECAST OF HOW MUCH FUNDS WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE SURTAX FUND, AND THEN THE REST WAS GOING TO COME FROM GENERAL REVENUES WERE AD VALOREM RESERVES, THAT'S THE TUNE OF $1.4 MILLION. BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP FROM THE COUNCIL WAS IF THERE WAS AN UPGRADE TO THE LIGHTING, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST? YOU CAN SEE IN THE NEXT COLUMN TO THE RIGHT, THAT WOULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LIGHTING FROM $1.2 MILLION TO $1.5 MILLION. I WILL POINT OUT THAT THAT'S THE LIGHTING INCREASE ON ONE FIELD ONLY, THE LIGHTING RENOVATION THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND COLUMN, THAT'S ALL FOUR FIELDS. BUT IF YOU JUST WANTED IT UPGRADED THAT CROSS IS REFLECTIVE OF ONE OF THE FIELDS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO POINT THAT OUT. BUT IN THE PROCESS OF MEETING WITH THE STADIUM AND UPDATING THE COST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE UP-TO-DATE COST. THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT CAME IN ON JANUARY IN RELATION TO PUBLIC WI-FI IN THE STADIUM, WHICH ALSO EXTENDED OUTSIDE OF THE STADIUM, IT'S NOT JUST THE STADIUM ITSELF, IT'S OUT INTO THE ABACOA AREA, THE LITTLE PARK THERE, AND THAT GENERAL DOWNTOWN AREA. THAT'S $1 MILLION. ALSO THEY'VE ASKED FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE $330,000 ANNUALLY OVER FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, $1.6 MILLION AND THEN ALSO SOME EXTERIOR PAYING TO MATCH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DOWNTOWN ABACOA COMMUNITY AREA, $750,000. SO IF THAT WERE BEING CONSIDERED BASED ON THE LEFT-HAND COLUMN, IT'D BE $6.2 MILLION. IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE THE LIGHTING UPGRADE TO BE $6.5 MILLION. WHAT THEY'VE ALSO INDICATED IS THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A SCHEDULE OF PAYMENT. SCHEDULE OF $3 MILLION IN ADVANCE AND THEN $3.2 MILLION PAID OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD. NOW, LOOKING AT THAT, IT'S NOT REALLY TIED TO ANY ONE SPECIFIC CAPITAL ITEM. [00:55:01] WHAT I WILL SAY IS IN REGARDS TO THE SURTAX FUNDING IT HAS TO BE TIED TO A VERY SPECIFIC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. THE CASHFLOW FOR THE SURTAX FUND. WE WILL HAVE OVER $7 MILLION AVAILABLE AT THE END OF FY23. THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE UPGRADES OF THE FIELD HOUSE AND THE LIGHTING. THOSE ITEMS ARE CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE TOWN. FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE. WE WERE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THOSE INCREASES IN RELATION TO WHAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES FOR OWNERSHIP. THOSE OTHER ITEMS, IF THEY ARE OWNED BY THE COUNTY, I WILL SAY WE COULD JUSTIFY THAT THROUGH THE SURTAX AS WELL. IT'S JUST CLEANER IF THE TOWN OWNS THE ASSET. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO BRING TO LIGHT IS THAT WHAT WE WILL WE WILL DO IS IF THE COUNCIL SO WISHES TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD NEGOTIATE WITH THE COUNTY, THE JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO BIND THAT CONTRIBUTION. BUT WE WOULD WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THERE WOULD BE STIPULATIONS IN THERE, THE FIELD HOUSE WHICH IS OWNED BY THE TOWN AND THE LIGHTS, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO IN HOUSE. THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WOULD MANAGE THOSE PROJECTS. ANYTHING OVER AND ABOVE THAT WOULD BE DONE ON A REQUEST, A PAYMENT, MEANING THAT IT'S A REIMBURSABLE TYPE GRANT TO THE ENTITY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE COUNTY PURCHASING CODE AS WELL. THERE WILL BE BACKUP THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME WITH THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS. THE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS REQUESTED WOULD BE THE THE PERPETUAL EASEMENT. I WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE WHERE THOSE FIELDS ARE. ALSO IT'S JUST ABOVE 23 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE AS ILLUSTRATED BELOW, BUT THAT'LL BE FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES, CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ORIGINAL ABACOA DEVELOPMENT ORDER. THAT WOULD ALSO BE IN THE JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT. WITH THAT, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, DOES THE COUNCIL WISH TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION? IF SO, WHICH OPTIONS WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? ONE THING I WILL BRING TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, THESE ARE ON BUDGETED ITEMS CURRENTLY, THEY WOULD COME IN THE FORM OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT ONCE ULTIMATELY AUTHORIZED. I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL HAS A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. ALSO THE BUDGET IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. A LOT OF VERY BIG ITEMS THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE DISCUSSING AS FAR AS FUNDING. THIS IS DEFINITELY IN COMPETITION WITH THOSE ITEMS. BUT IF YES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE, WHAT LEVEL OF FUNDING DOES THE COUNCIL WISH TO CONSIDER? NOVEMBER'S WORKSHOP OPTION OF $2.8 MILLION, OR SOME OTHER OPTIONS BASED ON WHAT THE ROTTERDAM STADIUM HAS BROUGHT BACK TO US. AGAIN, IF AUTHORIZED, THERE'LL BE A JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WHICH WILL BIND THAT. WITH THAT, THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> JUST TO GET US KICKED OFF HERE ON THE DIAS, WE LAST WE SPOKE AS A COUNCIL WAS IN NOVEMBER. SINCE THAT TIME, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH ONE OF US INDIVIDUALLY HAS EITHER MET WITH, OR SPOKE WITH A STADIUM AND SO WE HEARD INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF THIS. AS I UNDERSTAND AND TALKING TO SCOTT TODAY, SOME NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED, SO I'M GOING TO TRUST THAT THESE ARE THE LATEST NUMBERS, BUT I STILL HAD SOME UNDERSTANDINGS THAT I THINK ARE PERTINENT. I WON'T HAVE TO ASK. I'M JUST NOT TO GET INTO IT, BUT JUST USE ONE BY EXAMPLE. I'M THE ONE THAT ASKED FOR THE MINOR WEEK LIGHTING OPTION AND THEN I HEARD THAT THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT BASEBALL WAS INTERESTED IN. IF THAT'S STILL THE CASE. WELL, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN DOING IT. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH SO I THINK, I'M SURE WE ALL DID THIS. WE TRIED TO ALIGN TO BETTER UNDERSTAND INDIVIDUALLY SO WE COULD TALK COLLECTIVELY. I THINK TO SOME DEGREE WE OUGHT TO GET THOSE THINGS OUT ON EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL WORKING FROM A COMMON REFERENCE POINT. IF YOU ALL AGREE, WE COULD KEEP THE QUESTIONS TO THAT TO JUST UNDERSTAND NOT NECESSARILY WEIGHING IN ON IT, BUT JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS IS ON THIS LIST HERE. AS AN EXAMPLE, IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT BASEBALL HAS NO INTEREST IN THAT BEING LIGHTED BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MONEY WE HAVE? >> WELL, I KNOW THAT THIS FUNDING LIST WE HAD WORKED WITH MIKE ON THAT, MIKE BOWER. [01:00:01] IT WAS ON HIS LIST. I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED AT A STAFF LEVEL WITH MIKE AND BASEBALL WHEN THEY CAME, THERE REALLY WASN'T A FIRM COMMITMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT THE LIGHTING. I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO ROTTERDAM STADIUM WHETHER THEY REALLY WANT THE LIGHTING UPGRADES OR NOT. BUT IT WAS ON THEIR INITIAL LIST FOR FUNDING THAT THEY PRESENT IT BACK TO. >> I THINK PROBABLY WE HAVE TO PROBABLY HAVE THEM UP TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE PRODUCTIVE HERE. JUST LIKE THIS WHEN I ASKED FOR PRESENTATION, BUT PLEASE, SO AS WE GO THROUGH EACH ITEM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL HAVE EQUIVALENT UNDERSTANDING. JUST ON LIGHTING THE OPEN ITEM WAS I ASKED FOR IT THINKING THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED, AND I UNDERSTAND IT NEVER WAS IN YOUR PLAN. IS THAT STILL THE CASE? >> YES. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY NEED TO UPGRADE THE LIGHTING, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE WERE GOING TO REPLACE THE LIGHTING IN ITS CURRENT LEVEL. WHAT WAS DISCUSSED WAS BRINGING IT TO A MINOR LEAGUE LEVEL OR MAYBE EVEN A MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL, WE JUST NEED A LITTLE LEAGUE LEVEL. >> THANK YOU. AS AN EXAMPLE ON THAT ONE, LET'S GO DOWN ONE-BY-ONE. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? >> I JUST HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE AD VALOREM VERSUS INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX. THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY LIMITS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX FUNDS AND WHICH ITEMS WOULD QUALIFY FOR EACH. JUST LISTED HERE. I SEE THE TOTAL AMOUNTS. >> WELL, THE MAINTENANCE ITEM, THAT DEFINITELY WOULD NOT. IT HAS TO BE A CAPITAL ASSET THAT'S GOING TO LAST OVER FIVE YEARS. THAT'S THE BASE. HAS TO BE OWNED BY A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, WHICH IS THE TOWN, THE COUNTY IF THEY CAN SHOW OWNERSHIP OF IT, THAT WOULD QUALIFY. BUT THE MAINTENANCE THAT DEFINITELY WOULD NOT, THE PAINTING, DEFINITELY WOULD NOT, THE WI-FI, SKETCHY THERE, HAVE TO JUSTIFY THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW. BUT THE PUBLIC ART, THE PLAZA UPGRADES, THE LIGHTING, AND THE FIELD HOUSE. >> FOR QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION I WANT TO GET OUT HERE BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS A COUNCIL, I THINK WERE UNANIMOUS ABOUT THIS AS WE, THE CORNFIELDS OF COMMON PROPERTIES FOR HIS WORK CONCERN THAT TOWN OR COUNTY IS HOLDING THEM. I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY HAD ANY IDEA THAT WE HAVE OWNERSHIP IN THE FACILITIES AND THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING AN ANNUAL AGREEMENT AND WE'VE BEEN COVERING EXPENSES AS IT HAS BEEN. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP THAT BUT, I'M CURIOUS TO THE DEGREE THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING IS ENTIRELY ON BED TAX, CORRECT? >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. >> WHAT WE'VE CONTRIBUTED THE TOWN HELPS EMBED THAT COLLECTION THE COUNTY TOLD US THAT 50 PERCENT OF THE BED TAX IS FROM THE TOURNAMENTS? THAT WOULD BE RECOLLECTION IS? >> THAT IS MY RECOLLECTION. >> TO THE DEGREE THE COUNTY COME IN AND ASK THE TOWN, DO WE KNOW IF THE COUNTY APPROACH PALM BEACH GARDENS BECAUSE THEY STAND TO GAIN AS MUCH AS WE DO. >> SO BETTER A WHILE AGO. >> NO I KNOW WE HAD I JUST WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD. I'M NOT SUGGESTING I'M THE FIRST ONE ASKING THIS STUFF. I JUST WHERE WE STAND HERE TONIGHT, I JUST WANT TO GET ON THE RECORD. HAS THE COMMISSIONER ASKED PALM BEACH GARDENS TO PONY UP BECAUSE ONE STYLE ROTH BECAME ALL COMMERCIAL AND THE GARDEN SIDE, THEY GET AS MUCH BUSINESS OUT OF THE BASEBALL STADIUM AS WE DO. DO WE KNOW IF THEY'VE ASKED AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. I JUST WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD. >> I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. >> WELL, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING OR MAYBE REPRESENT THE TOWN TAXPAYERS AND AS WE SPOKE LAST TIME, WE WERE AN ALIGNMENT. WE WERE WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO HELP WHERE WE CAN JUSTIFY IT WITH OUR TAXPAYERS WE REPRESENT. WOULD YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >> AND THE COUNTY MADE A POINT WHEN THEY WERE DISCUSSING THIS QUITE WHILE AGO, THAT THEY ARE IN FACT NOT USING A DIME OF AD VALOREM TAXES FROM THE COUNTY. AND IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THEY MADE THAT POINT ON THE RECORD. SO THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT. THIS IS ASKING FOR TAXPAYER MONEY FROM THE TOWN OF JUPITER, AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY GETS ME HERE IN MY CONSIDERATION. I CERTAINLY WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE. I KNOW THAT WE OWN ASSETS HERE AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WE OWN, BUT I'M HAVING A HARD TIME COMMITTING ANY AD VALOREM DOLLARS TO THIS. >> JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WE DO HAVE MAINTENANCE COMMITMENTS THAT WE DO PAY FOR MAINTENANCE. [01:05:01] WE PAY MAINTENANCE FOR THE FIELDS. WE DO MAINTENANCE TO THOSE LIGHTS. IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE, IF THEY BLOW OUT THE LIGHTS, WE GO OUT THERE AND WE REPLACE THEM. JUST AS A REMINDER, PROJECTING INTO 2023, IT'S ABOUT $170,000 THAT WE'RE COMMITTING WITH AD VALOREM DOLLARS. THAT'S $70,000 FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELDS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE AGREEMENT WITH ROGER DEAN STADIUM THAT WILL PAY $25,000 FOR SECURITY, FIREWORKS. WE UPPED OUT FROM 10,000 A YEAR TO $14,000. ALSO, THE POWER AT THE LOCATION THAT'S AROUND $44,000 A YEAR. ALSO, THE LIGHTING REPAIRS. WE HAVE BUDGETED OVER $16,000 JUST IN LIGHTING REPAIRS. WE DO TAKE THAT OWNERSHIP SERIOUS AT THE QUAD AND OUR PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE, MONITORING THAT AND MAKING REPAIRS AS NECESSARY. >> I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT MY COMMENTS WERE TAKEN AS I INTENDED THEM. WE'VE HAD A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STADIUM AND SO WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT PARTNERSHIP. IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP. OUR RESONANCE BUSINESSES HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT. IT'S JUST WITH GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT. I DON'T SEE YOUR COUNTY BEING CONSISTENT AND SIMPLE I CARE OF LATELY. THEY JUST WANT TO GET WHATEVER THEY CAN GET OUT OF THE TOWN AND IT'S UNFAIR. AS MAYOR, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M GETTING THAT ON THE RECORD. MY OPINION. BUT GOING THROUGH THEM, SO JUST AGAIN, IF WE CAN INTERVENE I'M SORRY, I'M NOT TRYING TO DRIVE IT. IF WE GO THROUGH EACH ONE TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND COMMENT ABOUT IT. AS AN EXAMPLE, THE WI-FI FOR THE STADIUM AND EXTERIOR AREAS IN THE NUMBERS I KNOW NOW TRUED UP. BUT WHAT I LEARNED WAS THAT THE WI-FI FOR THE STADIUM ONLY WAS WHICH IS WHAT? I THINK BASEBALL ORIGINALLY WOMAN I'M LOOKING FOR MY NOTES HERE. I THOUGHT I HAD IT HERE, WAS HALF-A-MILLION DOLLARS. WHAT WAS THE LANDMARK FOR THE PROJECT? MOVING IT UP TO MILLION DOLLARS TAKES EXTERIOR REUS AND WHILE THAT'S A BENEFIT, THAT'S AN INCREMENTAL THAT ISN'T REALLY BASEBALL. IS THAT STILL THE CASE? I'M JUST TRYING TO PARE IT DOWN TO WHAT IS BASEBALL'S VERSUS WHAT IS NOT REALLY. BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT DECISION. DO YOU KNOW? >> NO, I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO MIKE AGAIN. >> IN REGARDS TO WI-FI, IT'S BROKEN OUT INTO THREE PIECES. ONE IS PUBLIC WI-FI WITHIN THE STADIUM ITSELF FOR GUESTS AS THEY ARE AT BALL GAME. >> YES. >> THEN THERE'S WI-FI OUT TO OUR BACK FIELDS FOR THE TOURNAMENTS, BUT ALSO FOR OUR COACHES AS THEY'RE DOING TRACK MAN AND THEIR PADS AND WHATEVER IN LIFETIME OUT THERE AND THEN IT'S ALSO THE COMPONENT ACROSS THE STREET. THE COMPONENT ACROSS THE STREET WAS ESTIMATED AT ABOUT $400,000. >> OF WHICH LINE ITEM HERE? IT INCLUDES ACROSS THE STREET? >> IT DOES, YES, SIR. >> I JUST THAT'S WHAT I GOT AS MY TAKEAWAY. >> ACROSS THE STREET AS INTO THE AMPHITHEATERS? >> YEAH. WE WOULD PROJECT OUT TO THE AMPHITHEATER AND INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA THERE. >> OKAY. >> WHEN I MET, I WAS REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS BASEBALL'S NEED VERSUS WHAT MAYBE MORPHED. JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT, DON'T INTERPRET THAT I WAS TAKING ANY POSITION. SO NOW WE KNOW THAT 600,000 AS BASEBALL, 400,000 WAS BEING DONE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE TOWN CENTER. THAT'S DIFFERENT. I PUT THAT IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. YOU TOUCHED ON THIS, SCOTT, BUT JUST TO REPEAT, THE QUAD FEEL, WHAT'S ON THE SHEET OF PAPER WAS A NUMBER FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE OVER FIVE YEARS. WHEN YOU'RE READY, YOU SAID THIS ALREADY INCLUDING THAT TO A LESSER DEGREE, IT'S PRORATED. THIS IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT DICEY. AGAIN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING I DO THAT I'M SUPPORTING THAT OR NOT. AS MR. BARRETT, I UNDERSTAND THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH BASEBALL ON THE PARTNERSHIP TO THE STADIUM, I GUESS IT GOES THROUGH WHAT, 2027? [01:10:02] >> YES, MAN. >> BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET TO 2028 AND FIND OUT THAT OUR COSTS ARE GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY GOING UP. I THINK THIS IS TO ME IT'S A LITTLE BIT MESSY IS UNDERSTANDING THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT ENOUGH. THE TOWN ATTORNEY HAS ANY ADVICE. I'M NOT TRYING TO OPEN UP THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE, BUT BEFORE WE PUTTING IN CAPITAL FUNDING, I WANT TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE GOING FORTH. >> THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE OF THIS WAS THAT THERE'S A SPORTS FACILITY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY BALL CLUBS AND THAT WAS LINKED TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BALL CLUBS IN THE TOWN FOR THE USE OF THE QUAD. COUNTIES NOW AMENDED THEIR SPORTS FACILITY AGREEMENT TO EXTEND IT OUT TO 2047, I THINK, A LONG TIME. I WON'T BE AROUND, [LAUGHTER] AND THE LICENSE AGREEMENT NEEDS TO BE LIKEWISE EXTENDED BECAUSE THE TWO HAVE TO BE IN SYNC. THE COUNTY IS NOT A PARTY TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, BUT THERE'S A PROVISION THAT LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THE COUNTY HAS TO CONCUR TO IT. TO THAT EXTENT, JUPITER LIMITED IS SOMEWHAT IN THE POSITION OF HAVING TO GO TO THE COUNTY AND SAY WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE TOWN, GET THE COUNTIES CONCURRENCE WITH IT. BUT LEGALLY, THE AGREEMENT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COUNTY IS JUST THE TOWN JUPITER AND JUPITER LIMITED, WHICH IS THE TWO BALL CLUBS. WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE ON THIS FUNDING, YOU'VE HEARD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT. THERE IS NO JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED THREE YEARS AGO. WHEN THE COUNTY WAS CONTEMPLATING THE BOND. THEN COVID CAME ALONG, THINGS GOT DELAYED, THEY PICKED IT UP AGAIN AND THE DISCUSSION OCCURRED AGAIN ABOUT THE TOWN MAKING A CONTRIBUTION AND THAT'S WHAT THE JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT WAS IN DRAFTS OF THAT WERE BEING CIRCULATED. BUT IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO FUNDING, YOU MUST SECURE THAT AGREEMENT, EXTENSION AS PART OF WHATEVER FUNDING AGREEMENT YOU ALSO REACH. IF YOU ELECT NOT TO DO ANY FUNDING AND NOT TO ENTER INTO ANY FUNDING AGREEMENT, YOU STILL NEED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE BALL CLUBS REGARDING AN EXTENSION OF THOSE FIELDS. BECAUSE THOSE FIELDS THE EXCHANGE WAS BASICALLY THE QUAD PLEX AND THE USE OF THE QUAD PLEX FOR THE TOWNS DONATION OF 25 ACRES TO UBERCORE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY SO THAT THE TWO TEAM FACILITY COULD HAPPEN. WITHOUT THE TOWN GIVING UP ITS 25 ACRES OF PARK LAND IN 1994, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ROGER DEAN STADIUM. >> A YEAR AGO, WHENEVER IT WAS, WHEN WE WERE BEGINNING THIS IN EARNEST, WE ALL GOT THE BOOK ABOUT THIS THICK. I WAS EXPECTING THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE ADVANCING AT THE SAME TIME. I'M NOT FINDING FAULT AND SAYING IT MAYBE HASN'T, BUT I THINK I'VE JUST MADE THE CASE BECAUSE AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, IF A MAJORITY WOULD SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO QUAD FUEL ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FOR THAT WE ALREADY ARE FOR LOWER AMOUNT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN SEPARATE A DECISION WITHOUT DOING THAT, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE GOING FORTH. BUT I DO THINK THEY'RE RELATED IN MY OPINION. ANYTIME I MEAN, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH MY ITEMS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT OUT SO WE'RE IN A COMMON CLARITY. WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL MY COLLEAGUES FEEL YOU'RE ABLE TO ASK WHATEVER OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THESE THINGS BEFORE WE DELIBERATE ABOUT THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LEARNED WHEN YOU MET ONE ON ONE. [01:15:05] I MEAN, TURN IT OVER TO OTHERS. IS THERE A QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT ITEMS ON THIS LIST THAT I HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO? >> ONE QUICK QUESTION ON THE 44,000 FOR POWER. IS THAT WE'RE PAYING JUST THE LIGHTING ON THOSE FIELDS FROM THE QUAD? >> YEAH. IT'S FOR ALL THE POWER AT THE QUAD. >> ALL THE POWER OF THE QUAD. OKAY. >> YEAH. >> IT'S JUST THAT I MET WITH MR. BOWER A WHILE BACK AND WE GOT NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN AND DONATING THE 24 ACRES AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE SKIN IN THE GAME THAN I REALIZED THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST, SO I'M STILL CHEWING ON LIBERATING AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS A REASONABLE DONATION TO THESE PROJECTS AND I JUST STRUGGLED WITH WHAT I WOULD ASK JUPITER TAXPAYERS TO KICK INTO THIS. WE HAVE THE SURTAX FUNDS AND ALL THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW. I'M STILL UNDECIDED AND I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. >> THE AMOUNT FOR POWER, IS THAT FOR SEVEN MONTHS? I KNOW WE USE THOSE FIELDS SEVEN MONTHS OF THE YEAR. >> WELL, THE NUMBER I HAVE IS BASED ON OUR ANNUAL COST. THIS ONE WE GOT FROM FPL. >> OKAY. >> I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY MONTHS OF THAT IS. TWELVE MONTHS OF USAGE AND BILLING IS WHAT WE PULLED. >> THAT 25 ACRES WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE GONE, BUT THIS WAS MADE LONG AGO, THIS DECISION, AND IT MADE THIS WONDERFUL CENTRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ABACOA TOWN CENTER HAPPEN. BUT IT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE GONE TO THE ABACOA COMMUNITY PARK. IS THAT RIGHT? THE LAND AS PART OF MEETING RECREATION. >> YES. >> MR. [INAUDIBLE] SAYING YES. >> OKAY. WHAT I HEAR FROM PARENTS OFTEN AND ABACOA LIVING THERE IS A STRUGGLE FOR FIELD SPACE AND FREQUENTLY AND KIDS HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING TIME KICKING A BALL WITH A PARENT OR FIELDS BEING OVER-COMMITTED WITH JTAA. I THINK IN WAYS PERHAPS NOT SEEN IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS, WE CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THAT PRETTY REGULARLY JUST AS A PERSPECTIVE. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE BALLPARK. I WENT ON OPENING DAY. I THINK IT ADDS A LOT OF VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY. I REALLY LOVE OUR RELATIONSHIP, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SKIN IN THE GAME, AND WE CONTINUE TO WITH THAT LAND. IT IMPACTS THAT AREA IN A WAY THAT WE MIGHT NOT REALIZE. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET LAST YEAR AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT FINANCES, WE HAVE $10 EGGS, WHO KNOWS WHAT IT IS. BUT WE ARE AS A GOVERNMENT BEING HIT WITH THESE COSTS AS WELL, AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS, ALL OF IT, AND INFRASTRUCTURE. EVERYTHING IS SO MUCH MORE NOW THAN IT WAS BEFORE. WE HAVE FACED THOSE STRESSORS. WE SEE THE SINGLE BEDS. WE SEE WHAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR CONTRACTS, SO HAVING TO READ BED AND ALL THE EXTRA WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT. WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL. I DON'T THINK WE GOT TO SAY, I LIKE TO HAVE. I THINK WE'RE IN AN AGE WHERE IT'S NEED TO HAVE AND WE NEED TO BE REALLY MINDFUL OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS BECAUSE WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES WITH THOSE LIMITED FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR END OF THE BARGAIN, TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE STREETS THAT PEOPLE DRIVE ON TO GO TO THE BALLPARK, TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THOSE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE TAKEN FOR GRANTED. WE JUST REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS. THAT'S WHY I'M SO SENSITIVE TO THE AD VALOREM PORTION OF THIS. I GET THAT IT'S LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE WE OWN PIECES OF THIS WHERE THERE ARE MAINTENANCE COMMITMENTS. BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THOUGHTS ON THAT. IN ANOTHER TIME, I THINK LIKE THIS WOULD BE AN EASIER CONVERSATION, BUT THESE ARE STRANGE TIMES AND WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF STRESSORS. WE REALLY JUST NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL WITH THIS. THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY. >> I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT REAL QUICK. BASEBALL HAD A LOT OF FLAVOR TO TOWN. IT WAS ANOTHER ASPECT OF WHAT JUPITER HAD TO OFFER. BUT THERE WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY COSTS AND ALSO AND IT WAS LESS OPEN SPACE FIELDS, BASEBALL, SOCCER, EVERYTHING FOR OUR KIDS AND FOR JUPITER RESIDENTS. WE HAVE A LOT OF SKIN IN THE GAME HERE. I THINK WE REALIZED THAT A LITTLE BIT AFTER WE MET AND SPOKE WITH EVERYBODY, SO TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT MYSELF. I'M IN AGREEMENT. >> WE WANT TO MAKE AS MUCH PROGRESS AS WE CAN TONIGHT, AND IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU SIT IN A SEAT [01:20:03] HERE NOT KNOWING EVERYBODY WHO'S GOING TO COME DOWN, BUT LET'S JUST GO BACK TO NOVEMBER, WHICH IS ON HERE WITH UPDATED NUMBERS. THE FUNDING SOURCES ARE THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX FUNDS AND [INAUDIBLE] WAS ADVISING US WHAT WOULD QUANTIFY AND WHAT WOULDN'T. THEN THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY ON. IF WE CAN, CAN WE AT LEAST TRY TO SEE WHERE WE COLLECTIVELY STAND ON THE FIRST FOUR ITEMS, ONE THROUGH FOUR. I FELT THAT THE QUAD FEEL AND THE LIGHTING WHERE THERE ARE FACILITIES THAT WE'VE ALLOWED TO BE USED. WE'VE GOT A PERCENTAGE OF THEM IN A WAY UPGRADING THE LIGHTING. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A PAYBACK, BUT IT SAVES US MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE STILL OBLIGATED TO MAINTAIN IT AS WE HAVE. IT'S VERY GENERAL CONSENSUS FOR THE FIELD HOUSE BUILDING UPGRADES AND THE LIGHTING UPGRADES, NOT THE MINOR LEAGUE OPTION. WHAT'S THAT? >> DO WE HAVE A PROJECTION IF WE WERE TO DO THE LIGHTING UPGRADES. WOULD THAT SAVE US ANY MONEY ON POWER? >> YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH A BETTER, CHEAPER LIGHT THAT IS GOING TO BURN LESS ENERGY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. >> LED OR WHATEVER IT IS. >> [OVERLAPPING] THE KIND OF SPECIFIC LIGHT. THOMAS IS HERE [INAUDIBLE]. >> I'M SURE YOU CAN TELL IT'S GOING TO SAVE THIS MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR, WHATEVER POWER DRAW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> FOR THE RECORD, THOMAS FERNANDEZ, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. LET'S SAY THAT YOU WERE TO TAKE THAT 40,000 AND ASSUME THAT THAT WAS ALL THE POWER COSTS, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF FIXTURE. I MEAN, YOU CAN SOMETIMES SEE IT GO FROM THAT FULL AMOUNT DOWN TO HALF OR ONE-THIRD, JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT FIXTURE. THERE'S A DECENT AMOUNT, ENOUGH SAVINGS, BUT GENERALLY, IT'S ROUGHLY IN THAT COST. >> OKAY. THE LIGHTS WOULD PROBABLY GENERALLY MORE EXPENSIVE UPFRONT, BUT OVER TIME SAVE YOUR MONEY. DO THEY LAST LONGER? >> THEY TEND TO HAVE LESS MAINTENANCE. THEY DO LAST LONGER PROVIDED THAT THERE'S NO ACT OF GOD OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT DAMAGE THEM. THE POLES OUT THERE ARE A LITTLE NEWER AS WELL, SO THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A LONGER LIFE EXPECTANCY. YEAH, IN THEORY, THERE SHOULD BE LESS MAINTENANCE TO THEM. >> BUT THESE ARE THE VINTAGE LIGHTS THAT WE BASICALLY DECIDED IN JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK TO CHANGE OUT. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT ASSETS WE OWN, SO THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE HAVING TO CHASE PINK BULBS AND STUFF. IF YOU'RE NOT READY, I'M NOT BEING PUSHY. >> GO AHEAD. >> GO AHEAD. >> IN MY POSITION REALLY HAS REMAINED THE SAME. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO THE UPGRADES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO DOWNTOWN ABACOA AND THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE. BASEBALL WAS GOING TO THE EFFORT TO UPGRADE THE FACILITIES AND IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE THAT ON THE OUTSIDE AS WELL, AND THOSE WERE THINGS THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO. FOR ME, I'M INTERESTED IN THE ENTRY PLAZA UPGRADES, THE PUBLIC ART. I WOULD BE WILLING TO ALSO DO THE WI-FI FOR INSIDE THE STADIUM BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE. IT'S ALSO A SAFETY THING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN COMMUNICATE. TO ME, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE AND THEN ALSO KEEP DOWNTON ABACOA LOOKING FRESH BY HAVING A FACILITY THAT LOOKS LIKE A FIRST CLASS FACILITY FROM THE OUTSIDE. ORIGINALLY, I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT 2.8, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S GONE TO 3.1, BUT THOSE WERE THE ITEMS THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN, AND IF WE WANT TO EXTEND MORE, I WOULD SUPPORT THE WI-FI. >> I'M SORRY. I'M JUST WANT TO NOTE. REGARDING THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE ON HERE, WHICH NUMBERS WERE YOU'RE SUPPORTING? >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS I GUESS IT'S A BENEFIT TO DO THE LIGHTING UPGRADE SO THAT THE PUBLIC ART, THE ENTRY PLAZA UPGRADES, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO BE WILLING TO DO AND THE EXTERIOR PAINTING OR THE THE PUBLIC WI-FI, THOSE THINGS THAT GO TO ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE. >> YOU DIDN'T SAY ONE. I'M NOT BEING PUSHY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND GOING DOWN THE ROAD HERE. >> WELL, I HAD ALWAYS SUPPORTED THREE AND FOUR AND SEVEN, AND I'M SAYING THAT I CAN SEE THERE A RATIONALE FOR PUBLIC WI-FI INSIDE THE STADIUM. [01:25:09] THE THE FIELDS, THE LIGHTING UPGRADES SEEMS LIKE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO FOR THE LONG-TERM BENEFIT IN TERMS OF THE COST SAVINGS AND HAVING THE BETTER FACILITY. >> OKAY. >> IF WE JUST DID THE WI-FI INSIDE THE STADIUM, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY THE ESTIMATED 500,000? >> YEAH. BUT IS THAT WHAT IT WAS INSIDE IF YOU HAVE 500,000. SUMS UP ON THAT. >> THE GOOD THING ABOUT OUTSIDE THE STADIUM, IT MIGHT HELP THE STUDENTS MAYBE FROM FAU, IF THEY ARE OVER THERE STUDYING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON BREAK, COULD POTENTIALLY HELP THEM TO ACCESS WI-FI IN THOSE AREAS IF THEY'RE UTILIZING THE BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN, HAVE A COLA FOR LUNCH OR WHATEVER IT IS. IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET COFFEE OR SOMETHING. >> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. IT'S LIKE IF WE HAD TO SKIP ON SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD, I COULD PUT THAT ASIDE, BUT I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF EXTENDING THE WI-FI. IT'S ALL PART OF THE USER EXPERIENCE. WELCOME TO COME DOWN TO THE STADIUM AND THEY'D HAVE WI-FI, THE PLACE LOOKS NICE. IT'S ATTRACTIVE. THEY HAVE A GOOD TIME BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESSES THEY SPEND MONEY. WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE FIRST-CLASS FACILITY. WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE SOME STEPCHILD. TO ME, IT'S ALL THOSE THINGS THAT GO TOWARDS THAT OR THINGS THAT BENEFIT THE TOWN AND BENEFIT ALL OF AVICO AND EVERYBODY GOES DOWN THERE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE EXTERIOR PAINTING. WHAT IS BEING PAINTED? ARE THESE FACILITIES THAT WE OWN OR THIS IS CONTRIBUTING TO PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T KNOW? >> THAT'S A STADIUM. >> IT'S A STADIUM. >> YEAH. THIS IS THE COUNTY'S FACILITY. IS THAT RIGHT? >> YEAH. COUNTY FACILITY. WE ARE GOING TO DEMOLISH AND REBUILD THE TWO CLUBHOUSE FACILITIES, AND THAT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE. BUT PAINTING OF THE MAIN STADIUM ITSELF WAS NOT. THIS WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BLEND IT ALL TOGETHER SO IT LOOKS IN UNISON. >> I CANNOT SUPPORT USING AD VALOREM DOLLARS FROM JUPITER TAXPAYERS TO PAINT A COUNTY FACILITY IN THE EXTERNAL ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW. I'M MUCH MORE CAUTIOUS WITH THIS. I DO THINK THAT IT'S NICE TO HAVE A NICE EXPERIENCE, BUT THOSE ARE NICE TO HAVES AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PRIORITIES. I THINK I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE FIELD HOUSE BUILDING UPGRADES. THAT'S I THINK AN EASY ONE. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT LEAPS OUT WITH QUAD LIGHTING UPGRADES. BUT IT'S A GOOD POINT WITH JUPITER COMMUNITY PARK AND MATCHING, IF THESE ARE LIGHTS THAT WE OWN, THE TIMING I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING FOR THAT. PUBLIC ART AND ENTRY PLAZA UPGRADES, I HAD BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN BEFORE GENERALLY, THE TOP HALF OF THIS DOCUMENT, MORE OPEN TO, BUT THAT WAS ALSO BEFORE THE LAND. UNDERSTANDING THE CONTRIBUTION THAT WE HAVE MADE WITH THE LAND AND UNDERSTANDING FROM PARENTS AND ADD THE CORE OF HOW THAT'S STILL IMPACTS US. I'M A LITTLE MORE HESITANT. I FEEL LIKE ONE AND TWO ARE EASIER FOR ME. THREE AND FOUR, I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSION BUT VERY HESITANT. I WOULDN'T LOOK AT 5, 6 OR 7. >> MAYBE IF YOU JUST FOCUS ON THE LIGHTING ON THE FIELDS, YOU'RE ONLY BENEFITING THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE FIELDS. YOU'RE ONLY BEDDING THOSE ATHLETES THAT USE THE FIELDS. IF YOU DO THINGS, SO STADIUM AS A WHOLE WITH BENEFITS, EVERYBODY WHO GOES DOWN THERE. >> I UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC BENEFIT BECAUSE I DO THINK AVALON DOLLARS. ALL WILL THESE WOULD BE SURTAX DOLLARS. THEY ENTERED PUBLIC ART. BUT JUST THE CONCEPT OF THE PUBLIC BENEFITS SAT WELL WITH ME THE FIRST ROUND. BUT THIS IS KIND OF REALLY BASED ON GOODWILL AND HOW MUCH IS GOOD WILL. I'M WANTING TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE KNOWING THE REALITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR CONTRACTS, KNOWING WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND WHAT'S AHEAD. I'M JUST SENSITIVE TO THAT. >> QUESTION FROM MARK. NUMBER 5. IF THE TOWN DIDN'T AGREE TO FUND THE INTERIOR WHITE PART OF THE STATE AND THE EXTERIOR, WOULD IT STILL GET DONE? OR THEY WERE ASKING THE TOWN TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE THING? [01:30:02] >> WE WOULD STILL DO THE PORTIONS THAT ARE ON THE INSIDE AND ON OUR BACK FIELDS, BUT WE WOULD NOT DO WHAT PROJECTS TO TOWN CENTER. >> BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO THE WI-FI THING OUTSIDE THE STADIUM IS MORE ON WHEELHOUSE. JUPITER RESIDENTS PROBABLY BENEFIT. >> BUT YEAH, THAT TO ME, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WE CAN ADD OR NOT. BUT FOR ME, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS TO MAKING SURE THE FACILITY LOOKS LOOKS NICE, LOOKS UPGRADED. IF YOU DON'T DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, IT CAN JUST CONTINUE TO DEGRADE AND IT'S NOT GOING IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK NICE. I THINK THAT ADDS BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. >> WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE FIELD HOUSE UPGRADES, SCOTT, THOMAS? >> I ACTUALLY WENT OUT WITH MR. BOWER AND SOME OF THE OTHERS TO GO LOOK AT THE FIELD HOUSE ITSELF. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE REALLY INCLUDED IN THE FIELD HOUSE UPGRADES. IT'S REALLY JUST A LOT OF MAINTENANCE ITEMS. BUILDING THE ROOF THAT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE BE REQUIRED. THAT'S THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE ITEM. RESTROOM AND ADA RENOVATIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME LOCATIONS WHERE ADA COULD BE IMPROVED. BLOCKS, JUST FIXING SOME OF THE EPOXY FLOOR ISSUES. THERE'S MINOR DIMPLES AND THE FLOOR. REPLACING COUNTER TOPS AND SOME OF THE CONCESSION STANDS. ORIGINALLY, AS A PART OF MY ESTIMATE, THERE WERE SOME DUCTLESS AIR CONDITIONING THAT WE WERE GOING TO REPLACE. SOME POINT SOMEBODY HAD RETROFITTED A WINDOW SHAKERS STYLE AIR CONDITIONING AND INTO IT. WE'VE ACTUALLY REPLACED THAT RECENTLY, TO MY RECOLLECTION FROM MY STAFF WORKING WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS OUT OF PARKS. THEN INSTALLATION OF POTENTIALLY A SERVICE WINDOW, REPLACING DOOR FRAME FOR THE CONCESSION STAND BECAUSE IT'S STARTING TO GET A LITTLE ROUGH. REPLACEMENT OF SCREENS IN THE SECOND STORY. EVALUATE SOME OF THE CRACKING AND FLOOR IN THE SECOND STORY FLOOR JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO ISSUES. DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE A PROBLEM, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THAT GETS CRACK INJECTED. JUST FILLING IN SOME OF THE LARGER CONSTRUCTION JOINTS SO THERE'S NO TRIPPING HAZARDS. FIXING CRACKING IN THE FLOORING AND THE STORAGE ROOM FLOOR. THAT'S JUST A FIRST FLOOR JUST TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T CONTINUE TO CRACK. THEN REPLACING THE HOT WATER HEATER, WHICH I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO A HOT WATER HEATER IN THAT LOCATION JUST WAITING TO BE INSTALLED FOR WHEN THE OTHER ONE GOES BAD. >> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE AN AESTHETIC OR FUNCTIONAL FACE OF THE PLANET. MORE FUNCTIONAL BUT IT'S MORE LIKE JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE THINGS DETERIORATION? >> CORRECT. >> THINGS A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T EVEN NOTICE IF THAT WAS DONE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. >> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. >> DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN UNDER YOUR OPINIONS ON THOSE OR YOU WANT TO PAUSE? [OVERLAPPING] ONE FOR EACH ONE. >> NO. I COULD SAY 1, 2, MAYBE INTERESTED IN THE EXTERIOR WI-FI. THE FIELD MAINTENANCE, WE'RE ALREADY DEALING. I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE GO ON THAT. PUBLIC ART COULD BE DONE LATER. I DON'T KNOW. I AGREE WITH THE ENTRY. WHEN THIS IS DONE, IT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE A NEW MODERN STADIUM, I AGREE. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S OUR POLICE TO PAINT A COUNTY FACILITY OR BASEBALL FACILITY. IT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY. >> WHICH ONES? I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO TAKE NOTES. >> I WOULD SAY 1, 2, AND 5 EXTERIOR WI-FI BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO TIE IT TO JUPITER TAXPAYER PUBLIC BENEFIT. THAT'S WHERE MY BRAIN IS RIGHT NOW. >> I FEEL LIKE THE PUBLIC ART OR ENTRY PLAZA UPGRADES OR LOWER DOLLAR. IT'S ALSO THE DOLLAR NUMBER, NOT NECESSARILY THE ITEM TOO. I CAN MAKE A MOTION. >> NO. >> WE HAVEN'T HEARD EVERYBODY. [OVERLAPPING] >> [INAUDIBLE] TO DISCUSS. >> I'M GOOD WITH TWO, THE LIGHTING OBVIOUSLY, IN THE INTEREST OF A POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS AND POWER. THREE AND FOUR OBVIOUSLY, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THAT FOR THE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. PUBLIC WI-FI. IF IT'S GOING TO GO INSIDE THE STADIUM, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. IT ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE COME IN HERE. THEY'RE COMING HERE AND SPENDING MONEY AT OUR BUSINESSES EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT COLLECTING THE BED TAX, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT THEY ARE STILL SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS TOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE LAST WEEK-AND-A-HALF, TWO WEEKS SINCE OPENING DAY, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET INTO ANY RESTAURANT, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE RESTAURANTS AND STUFF. [01:35:03] STICKS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT THEY'RE SPENDING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HERE. IF WE CAN KEEP ATTRACTING PEOPLE HERE FOR THAT USER EXPERIENCE, IT'S GOING TO BRING IT BACK REVENUES FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS. JUST HAVING THAT WHOLE EXPERIENCE AS A WHOLE INSIDE THE STADIUM OUTSIDE, PROVIDES PUBLIC BENEFIT OUTSIDE. IT'S LIKE A GIVE-AND-TAKE FOR ME. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE FIELD MAINTENANCE THING. I'M WEARY ON THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE EXTERIOR PAINTING GOES, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO BEING AESTHETICALLY PLEASING FOR THE AREA, FOR WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE, YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] POTENTIALLY PEOPLE MOVING HERE AND WANTING TO BE IN A NICE AREA. TO ME, THAT'S A BENEFIT IN MY MIND. I WROTE DOWN I'M SUPPORTIVE OF 2, 3, 4, 5, AND 7. THEN I ADDED IT UP. IF ANYBODY'S CURIOUS, IT'S 4,430,000. >> OKAY. I'LL WEIGH IN ON THIS. I THINK EVERYBODY IS WAITING. YOU MAY HAVE BEEN PERSUADED TO CHANGE, BUT LET ME GO. THE QUAD FIELD HOUSE IN QUAD LIGHTING, THAT'S ALL SURTAX. LOOK AT IT IS WE FUNDED IT IN THE BEGINNING. WE'VE BEEN MAINTAINING IT AND WOULD CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT. NOW, THE LIFE NEED FOR THOSE FACILITIES HAVE DOUBLED, AND THANKFULLY, SO BECAUSE BASEBALL SIGNING UP FOR ANOTHER 20, 25 YEARS. I SUPPORT ONE AND TWO TO THAT DEGREE. I'LL JUST SAY THAT WHEN I LOOK AT IT AS IN FACT, THAT'S THE BEST INVESTMENT WE CAN DO. NOT ONLY IS IT OUR FACILITIES, BUT IT TRANSLATES INTO THE BENEFIT OF THE OF THE BED TAX ON ALL THE TOURNAMENTS. IT FEELS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO INVEST WHERE THEY'LL SEE THE COUNTY EVEN RECOGNIZING THAT PIECE OF IT TO SOME DEGREE, BUT I'M SURE THOSE TWO I SUPPORT. I DON'T SUPPORT THE WI-FI. I'M NOT SAYING THEY DO THE INTERIOR, BUT I DON'T SUPPORT THE EXTERIOR BECAUSE THAT'S AN EXTERNAL PROJECT AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HIS BASEBALLS REALLY TRULY WAS ASKING US AT LEAST WHEN I HAD CONVERSATIONS, I WANTED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. WHAT IS REALLY GOING TO MOVE THEIR NEEDLE? THEN I'M GOING TO DECIDE ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE IF WE WANTED TO PUT WI-FI OUTSIDE OF THE STADIUM, THAT'S OUR BUSINESS, WE COULD DO IT. NOW THAT WE'VE LEARNED, THAT WOULD BE DOUBLING THE COST. I DON'T SEE DOING THAT AS PART OF A DECISION TO HELP BASEBALL OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE REALLY NOT. I DON'T MEAN THIS NEGATIVELY. THEY DON'T CARE. THEY WANT TO HAVE IT IN THE STADIUM. I THOUGHT THAT POTENTIALLY, AND I THOUGHT FROM THE LAST MEETING THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPORTIVE OF PUBLIC ART AND THE ENTRY PLAZA BECAUSE THAT'S ALL OUTSIDE OF THE STADIUM. I COULD FIND MYSELF TO ACCEPT THAT THAT'S AN AMENITY WITHIN THE TOWN. BUT FRANKLY, WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH IN PUBLIC GARDEN. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S ONE AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT, THESE HAPPEN TO BE THE BUDGETARY NUMBERS THAT BASEBALL HAD. TO THE DEGREE THAT WE FUND SOME OF THAT OR ALL OF IT, THEN THAT'S TRULY AN OFFSET TO THEM. THEY WEREN'T MY DEARS, BUT THEY CAME OUT OF OR LAST IN. I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO THOSE REALIZING THAT THOSE WOULD COME OUT OF AVALON TAXES. NO DIFFERENT IN ANY OF UPGRADES THAT WE DO BECAUSE I THINK SCOTT HAD WEIGHED IN THAT THOSE ARE NOT SURTAX A BALL, CORRECT, SCOTT? >> YES. >> SORRY, WHICH ITEM IS THIS? >> THREE AND FOUR. >> NOT SURTAX? >> NOT SURTAX. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON NUMBER 4? >> THAT'S WHAT'S BEING SUGGESTED FOR THE FUNDING PLAN, IS THAT THOSE COME FROM AD VALOREM DOLLARS. >> YEAH. >> THAT'S BECAUSE THE TOWN DOES NOT OWN THEM. THE COUNTY DOES OWN THOSE ASSETS. WE COULD POSSIBLY JUSTIFY THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN, IT SAYS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY MUST OWN THE ASSET, SO WE COULD POSSIBLY JUSTIFY THAT. BUT LOOKING DOWN ON THE LIST, THE MAINTENANCE IS NOT A CAPITAL ASSET THAT WOULD NOT QUALIFY, THE EXTERIOR PAINTING, THAT WOULD NOT QUALIFY, [01:40:03] AND THEN THE WI-FI AS WELL. BUT THE FIRST FEW, THE TOWN OWNS THOSE ASSETS VERY JUSTIFIABLE, HAVE A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF OVER FIVE YEARS. THEN THE OTHER TWO, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE OWNED BY THE COUNTY. WE HAVE A DIFFERENT STORY THERE. >> HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH PUBLIC ART BEING OWNED. ARE WE CONTRIBUTING TO PUBLIC ART? IT WOULD BE A LARGER PIECE OR IT'S A COST-SHARING ON PUBLIC ART, OR IS THIS SOLELY OUR CONTRIBUTION? >> THIS IS THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTION. THIS WAS THE UPGRADED NUMBER FOR THE PUBLIC ART OUT ON LOTS OF AREA. >> WE WOULD BE THE ONLY CONTRIBUTOR, BUT WE WOULDN'T OWN IT? >> NO. THOSE ARE COUNTY ASSETS. >> WE'RE BUYING THE COUNTY PUBLIC ART, BUT IT FACES ARE PUBLIC THOUGH, WHICH IS INTERESTING. >> THAT'S PART OF THE FACILITY. >> THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT. >> JUST CURIOUS, SCOTT. WHY ISN'T PAINTING CONSIDERED A CAPITAL ASSET? THAT'S MATERIAL. >> THE WHICH ONE? >> PAINTING. [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S A CAPITAL ASSET. THE WAY THE STATUTES ARE AS A CAPITAL ASSET THAT LASTS OVER FIVE YEARS, THE PAINT IS NOT CAPITAL. IT JUST ISN'T. IT HAS TO BE A HARD ASSET. >> BECAUSE TO ME PAINT IS MATERIAL PRODUCTS AND I DON'T KNOW THE LAST TIME THE STADIUM WAS PAINTED. IT HADN'T BEEN WAY OVER FIVE YEARS AGO. >> THE STADIUM IS A CAPITAL ASSET, BUT THE PAINT SPECIFICALLY, IS NOT CAPITAL ASSET, PAINT ITSELF. >> INTERESTING. I WOULD'VE THOUGHT BECAUSE IT'S MATERIAL PRODUCT, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED. >> SCOTT, THE ENTRY PLAZA UPGRADES DOES THAT PAPER'S CURBING. WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? DO YOU REMEMBER? >> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ACTUAL STONES THAT ARE BEING USED ON THE SIDEWALK AREA AND THE CURBING. >> I'VE WEIGHED IN ON 1-4. I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE EXTERIOR. I JUST SAY NOT THE COP-OUT, BUT 5, 6, AND 7, I'M STILL UNDECIDED ABOUT. I'M SURELY HAVE MY LEANINGS ABOUT IT. EVEN THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE WE ALREADY DO, I'D RATHER MAKE SURE WE BRING THE CLOSURE WHAT THE EXTENDED AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AND BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BE SURPRISED AND FOUR YEARS ABOUT THAT TO EXTEND IT. I THINK FOR ME TO ADVANCE ANY OTHER ITEMS I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EXTENDED PARTNERSHIP COSTS ARE. >> I COULD DO 1, 2, AND 4 ALSO. IFFY ON THE WI-FI. I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I AM NOW. I WASN'T SURE IF THE PLAZA ENTRY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PAINTING OR MORE STRUCTURE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. BUT IT'S MAINLY THE HARDSCAPE, PAPERS, CURBS, THAT SORT OF THING. >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> PERMANENT STRUCTURE, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> RIGHT. >> CORRECT. >> I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS, BUT IF ANY OF US ARE THINKING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T OWN, WHICH SHOULD BE ANYTHING, NOTE THAT IN ONE AND TWO, IF OWNERSHIP IS AN ISSUE, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY TRY TO ADDRESS THAT. TAKE THE ART FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IF IT IS REALLY ALL OUR MONEY, BUT I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO THINK THAT THROUGH. WE COULD HAVE IT REVERT TO US OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED. THAT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE ASK IF WE WERE PROVIDING. I THINK I APPRECIATE THAT IN THE PLAN FOR THE STADIUM, THEY WERE INCLUDING THAT AS AN AMENITY. TO THE DEGREE THAT I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT CERTAINLY PEOPLE GOING INTO STADIUM BENEFIT, BUT CERTAINLY EVERYBODY THAT EVERY DAY GOES BY, THEY'RE DUE. THAT'S WHY I'M OPEN TO THAT. THE OWNERSHIP ISSUE, I'M RELUCTANT TO JUST NOT ADDRESSED THAT. >> IS THAT IN THE ENTRY PLAZA? [OVERLAPPING] >> I THINK THE PUBLIC ART [OVERLAPPING]. >> I THINK I COULD SUPPORT 1, 2, AND 4 AS WELL. ONE AND TWO ARE CLEAR BECAUSE THEY ARE WHAT WE OWN, AND I WOULD WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THAT. THEN FOR SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLIC-FACING, THAT IMPROVES THE AREA THAT SHOWS OUR GOODWILL TOWARDS BASEBALL, I THINK THAT MAKES A LARGER IMPRESSION AS A WHOLE. I COULD PROBABLY GET BEHIND 1, 2, AND 4. >> I LIKE TO SEE US MAYBE COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR PUBLIC ART DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT NUMBER. [01:45:02] BUT I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING FOR YEARS AND YEARS. THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST FOR THE PUBLIC TO DO MORE ABOUT ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE PUT IN, GOT TAKEN OUT. WE TRIED TO DO THE MURAL UNDER THE BRIDGE, THAT NEVER HAPPENED. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT, BUT WE'VE NEVER REALLY DONE ANYTHING AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR US TO DO SOMETHING. I CAN UNDERSTAND $650,000 IS QUITE A LOT. BUT IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A SMALLER NUMBER EVEN JUST AS A STARTING POINT TO JUST DO SOMETHING, YES, MAYBE IT REVERTS TO US, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH JUST IGNORING THAT CATEGORY ALTOGETHER BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A PUBLIC REQUEST FOR SO LONG. >> I CERTAINLY SUPPORT PUBLIC ART AND I AGREE THAT THE TOWN NEEDS TO DO MORE IN PUBLIC ART. WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS HAD IN MY MIND AND SOMETHING I'D WANT TO THINK ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE MUNICIPAL CAMPUS AND THE TOWN GREEN OR THE TOWN HALL. WE ALREADY HAVE THE POLICE MEMORIAL. JUST I'D ALWAYS THOUGHT, I'VE HAD IT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND THAT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IN THAT PROJECT OR IN FUTURE PROJECTS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT IT WAS, WHERE WE CAN INVOLVE OUR ART COMMITTEE. THIS DOESN'T INVOLVE OUR TOWN THE WAY THAT OTHER PUBLIC ART PROJECTS WOULD. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL WAY TO APPROACH PUBLIC ART. >> I'M NOT LOBBYING BECAUSE WE ALL WISH WE COULD PROBABLY GET THAT ELEMENT IN. I THINK THE PUBLIC ART HERE WOULD LEAN TOWARDS SOMETHING REGARDING THE SPORT. I CERTAINLY WOULD EXPECT. BUT AGAIN, I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILOR SNYDER SAID THAT I THINK AT LEAST SOME AMOUNT IS REASONABLE AND APPROPRIATE TO DO AS OPPOSED TO, ALL THESE ARE NOT ALL OR NOTHING. I DO THINK THAT ONE, TWO IS CLEARLY THAT BECAUSE IT'S OUR FACILITIES. I THINK WE HAD A CONSENSUS NOW ON FOUR. IF I HAVE MY NOTES WERE CORRECT, I THINK WE HAVE A MAJORITY ON PUBLIC ARTS. WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER. >> I DON'T KNOW. IT COULD BE MAYBE GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ART COMMITTEE AND YOU COULD START AT AROUND $50,000. JUST SOMETHING TO JUST KICK IT OFF AND WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT THAT LATER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT I'D HATE TO SEE IT BE A ZERO NUMBER. >> NOT TO GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, BUT MIKE, IS THERE ANY DEFINITION TO THAT YET OR IS IT JUST A BUDGET AMOUNT? >> FOR NOW IT'S JUST A BUDGET NUMBER, BUT WE ENVISION SOMETHING THAT FOLKS WILL TAKE A PICTURE IN FRONT OF AND IT RESONATES JUPITER. >> THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, I WOULD THINK. >> IT SHOULD BE LIKE A MARLIN JUMPING OVER THE LIGHTHOUSE WITH A CARDINAL IN HIS MOUTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [LAUGHTER] >> IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A NUMBER AND WORK WITH THE ART COMMITTEE, WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT SUITS WHAT MIKE WAS SAYING, BUT ALSO FITS OUR BUDGETARY NEEDS. >> I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. >> I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. >> I SUPPORT THAT. >> AND TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT THE FULL AMOUNT, BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP WITH THAT. >> SOMETHING, 50,000, 100,000, JUST SOMETHING. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS. I CAN UNDERSTAND 650 IS A BIG NUMBER, PARTICULARLY WHERE THE FUNDING SOURCE COMES FROM. BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO START MAKING PROGRESS IN ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. YOU'LL GET PALM BEACH GARDENS AND THERE'S PUBLIC ART EVERYWHERE AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT OFF THE GROUND. SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO JUST TRY TO GET SOME MOMENTUM GOING ON THAT I THINK WOULD BE GOOD. >> SO LIKE A CASH DONATION TOWARDS THE ART? [OVERLAPPING] >> IT COULD BE, OR IT COULD BE THAT WE COME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT, ONLY COST A PARTICULAR AMOUNT OF MONEY. I'M NOT REALLY SURE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT IN MY WHEELHOUSE REALLY. BUT I THINK THAT IF WE COULD JUST AGREE ON A NUMBER THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AND CAN GO FROM THERE TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT GETS IMPLEMENTED. >> I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DESIRE TO LOCK DOWN EVERYTHING, BUT ON THAT ITEM, IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE WE COLLABORATE OVER THE COURSE OF THE SELECTION OF THAT. MIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D PREFER THAT, BUT IT SEEMS THAT MIKE BECAUSE WE'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING WHAT IT WAS. >> WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. >> RIGHT. I'M SEEING SOMETHING I MIGHT BE INCLINED TO [INAUDIBLE]. [01:50:03] >> I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO THE ART COMMITTEE TO COLLABORATE WITH ROGER DEAN TO PERHAPS FIGURE SOMETHING OUT THERE AND COME UP WITH A COST. >> YES. >> I SEE PENNIES SITTING OVER THERE. SO MAYBE A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THEM ALL TOGETHER AND THEY CAN START COLLABORATING AND THEN WE CAN COME UP WITH A COST. >> THAT PARTNERSHIP. >> YEAH. >> THEY MIGHT COME UP WITH SOMETHING VERY EXCITING AND IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND THEN YOU SEE THE PRICE TAG MIGHT BE LIKE WORLDWIDE, IT MIGHT BE GOOD ENOUGH TO DO IT. [OVERLAPPING] >> WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE I KNOW THE ART COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET SOMETHING GOING. I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT, BIG PROJECT KICKOFF. THEY HAVE A LOT OF TALENTED PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD. SO I THINK IF WE CAN GET THAT PARTNERSHIP GOING IT'D BE GREAT. >> I THINK WE'VE PUT THAT ONE DOWN. >> [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE FOR THE ART COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED OR AN INCENTIVE FOR PUBLIC ART IS CERTAINLY APPRECIATED. SO THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DOLLAR SPREAD A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN ALL OF IT AT ONE LOCATION. JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WE HAD ASKED ABOUT A PROJECT TOWN WIDE. >> THANK YOU. WE'RE NOT OPENING UP THE COMMENTS HERE. I THINK WE CATEGORIZE THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON SCOPE DEFINITION. WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED A BETTER SCOPE DEFINITION. >> YES. >> AND THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAD A MAJORITY ON FIVE OR SEVEN TODAY. >> I'M SUPPORTIVE OF FIVE, JUST LIKE I SAID. >> I HAD YOU AND CHERYL DOWN FOR THAT AND THEN ROWAN HAD JUST THE EXTERIOR. >> IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL FOR INSIDE STADIUM. I'M NOT SOLD ON IT, BUT I GUESS I'M LUKEWARM ON IT. THAT'S [INAUDIBLE]. >> I THINK THEY'RE ALL WONDERFUL IDEAS. IT'S JUST THE QUESTION OF, IS IT FOR US TO BE THE ONE DOING THAT? >> CORRECT. >> AND GIVEN WHAT WE'VE GIVEN BEFORE, WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED OVER THIS TIME, JUST WHAT'S APPROPRIATE. >> WELL, IF YOU TAKE THE PUBLIC ART NUMBER DOWN TO SOMETHING MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE, MAYBE THEN THERE IS ROOM TO DO THE WI-FI. >> I CAN'T GET PAST THE NUMBER. I CAN'T YEAH. THAT 5, 6, 7 ARE A STRETCH FOR ME. BUT I REALLY LIKE WHAT'S THE DISCUSSION AROUND THE FIRST HALF OF THE DOCUMENT. >> WELL, WE HAVE A SHARED IN NUMBER 6, WE ALREADY HAD IT. SO IT IS NOT ZERO. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SO I'LL BE AT 1, 2, 3, 4 PUBLIC ARTS. THAT'S VAGUE AT THIS POINT. SO LET EVERYONE LOOK AT THAT. >> SO WE COULD DO A MOTION TO APPROVE FUNDING FOR QUAD FIELD HOUSE BUILDING UPGRADES, QUAD LIGHTING, A CONTRIBUTION TO BE DETERMINED ON PUBLIC ART AND TO INVOLVE THE ART COMMITTEE AND THE FUNDING FOR ENTRY PLAZA UPGRADES. SO A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS. >> THAT'S YOUR MOTION? >> YEAH. >> [OVERLAPPING] IS THERE A MOTION REQUIRED FOR THIS? >> NO. >> DO WE NEED A MOTION? >> THIS IS A PRESENTATION. >> OKAY. >> DID YOU JUST WANT DIRECTION, CORRECT. >> WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION. >> IT'S FOR DIRECTION. >> SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO THE COUNTY AND COME BACK WITH A FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR YOU. [OVERLAPPING] >> [INAUDIBLE] INTERRUPT YOU. I'M SORRY. >> NO. THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING] >> IN FUNDING [INAUDIBLE] IS GOOD. BUT YOU HAVE TO GET A COMMITMENT TO EXTEND THAT LICENSE AGREEMENT. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> IF YOU'RE GOING TO FUND, THEN THAT FUNDING NEEDS TO BE CONTINGENT UPON AN AMENDMENT TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT IS SATISFACTORY TO COUNCIL. >> AGREED. >> AGREED. WE WERE FOCUSING ON THE SCOPE AND LEAVES THE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE. I KNOW BASEBALL OR A COUNTY WAS EXPECTING WE'RE JUST GOING TO SIGN UP TO GIVE MONEY OVER, WHICH WE'RE NOT. BUT AS TOWN ATTORNEY SAID, THIS HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE LICENSE AGREEMENT. THAT HAS TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE GOING TO AGREE TO OFFER UP WITHOUT ANY CERTAINTY THAT WE GET A LICENSE AGREEMENT TO USE THE FIELD HOUSE AND LIGHTING UPGRADES, [01:55:03] WHICH WE'RE DOING AS CRAZY AS THAT IS. >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. >> IS THAT THE DIRECTION? >> YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE OF THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL AS FAR AS THE FUNDING ITEMS THEMSELVES, BECAUSE WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT WITH THE COUNCIL OR WITH THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN DEVELOP THE FUNDING AGREEMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A LICENSING. >> WE HAD 1, 2, AND 4, WE HAD A CONSENSUS AND THREE WE HAD A CONSENSUS, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY DETERMINED AMOUNT BASED ON SCOPE DEFINITION. >> GOT THAT. >> IT'S SIGNIFICANT LESS THAN WHAT'S ON THERE. NOT NECESSARILY THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN ON THE TABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE IS. >> IT'S WHAT I NEEDED. THE COUNCIL IS STILL AS THEY INDICATED BACK IN NOVEMBER IN REGARDS TO THE GRANTING OF PERPETUAL AN EASEMENT, THEY'RE STILL FIRM ON THAT AS WELL. >> YES. >> I THOUGHT WE HAD IT. >> NO. >> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. THE COURTS WERE FAR MORE THAN WE THOUGHT WE HAD IT. >> WOULD BE CONTINGENT ON. >> PERPETUAL EASEMENT, HE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. [OVERLAPPING] >> RIGHT. >> WHAT EASEMENT ARE YOU SPEAKING ON? >> THE PERPETUAL EASEMENT TO THE RIGHTS OF THE FIELD FOR THE 25 OR 23 PLUS ACRES. >> YOU'RE SAYING PERPETUAL EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PERPETUAL USE OF THE FIELDS? >> CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT WAS MENTIONED BACK IN NOVEMBER. >> AS PART OF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT? >> CORRECT. THANK YOU. >> OR VEHICLE. THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID. I SAID FOR EXAMPLE I'M STANDING WE DON'T HAVE IT ALREADY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE COUNTY FORGOT OUR INVESTMENT INTO THIS. WE WANT MAKE SURE THAT'S SORTED OUT AND CORRECTED. >> [INAUDIBLE] BACKWARDS. >> YEAH. >> IF IT'S A DIFFERENT VEHICLE, THEN AN EASEMENT THAT'S FINE. HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY FORGETS AGAIN. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? MOVING ON TO REPORTS, TOWN ATTORNEY. [TOWN ATTORNEY] >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. [LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT EVEN CAME OUT. CONGRATULATIONS TO VICE MAYOR DELANEY AND TO COUNCILOR MAY LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU. I WANTED TO LET COUNSEL KNOW THAT I COMPLETED THE FINAL ORDER ON SPARING PROPERTY TODAY AND IS LIKELY TO BE EXECUTED BY JIM MURRAY TOMORROW. THANK YOU. >> TOWN MANAGER. [TOWN MANAGER] >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ECHO MY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE VICE MAYOR, COUNCILOR MAY AND YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR NOW. [LAUGHTER]. >> WE KNOW. >> REALLY EXCITED ABOUT CONTINUING WITH WORKING WITH YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR US. [INAUDIBLE] NOTE REAL QUICK. JUST A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION COMING UP. IT IS ON THE 16TH AT 06:00 PM AND WE'RE WORKING ON PUTTING THE FINISHING TOUCHES ON YOUR DOCUMENTS FOR YOUR REVIEW, AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE THEM OUT TOMORROW. AND SO TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT. AS YOU KNOW, WE FORMALLY LAUNCHED THE VETERANS MEMORIAL LEGACY BRICK PROGRAM, WHICH IS PRETTY EXCITING, KUDOS TO THE STAFF TO SHAWN AND THE TEAM, AND THOMAS AND EVERYBODY THAT WORKED ON THAT. WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE SIGNING UP. IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED, THEY CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND LOOK UNDER VETERANS BRICKS. EACH BRICK COST A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND RIGHT NOW FOR THE FIRST GO AROUND, YOU CAN ORDER BRICKS FROM MARCH 1ST TO AUGUST 31ST. WASTE MANAGEMENT, AS I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE GETTING YOUR EMAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES, SO ARE WE, AND WE HAD A MEETING LAST FRIDAY WITH SOME OF OUR HOA. WE HAD 16 COMMUNITIES REPRESENTED PLUS THE ABACOA MASTER PLA, WHO'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN AND THE HOA REPRESENTATIVES TO BRAINSTORM SOME IDEAS. [02:00:01] MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AND STILL HAVE SOME THINGS TO WORK OUT. BUT IT WAS GOOD BEGINNING DIALOGUE FOR THAT, SO THAT WAS REALLY A PLUS. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HEARD ABOUT PARKS AND REC. WE'LL DO A LITTLE BIT AFTER ACTION REPORT ON THAT, BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK THAT THE STAFF DID THERE. WE SIGNED UP OVER 200 CAMPERS LAST WEEKEND, WHICH WAS PRETTY GOOD, AND WE'LL WORK TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT BETTER NEXT YEAR. BUT KUDOS TO THE STAFF, THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK TO GET THAT DONE. THE TOWN ATTORNEY HAD MENTIONED THE HRB AND I THINK TOMORROW MORNING WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THE SECOND APPRAISER AND WAS AWARDED THE CONTRACT. AND SO WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH THE FIRST APPRAISER PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO, SO THAT PROCESS IS MOVING ALONG AND I'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON IT. THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR. >> COUNCILOR SHATTER. [TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS] >> I WANTED TO JUST BRING UP THE ITEM TAG ROOMS BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF RENAMING THE POLICE BUILDING FOR CHIEF [INAUDIBLE]. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA. I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE UP AND ACTUALLY PUT INTO PRACTICE. NAMING IT AFTER THE PERSON WHO REALLY GOT THINGS STARTED AND WORK SO HARD DID SO MUCH FOR THE TOWN. I LIKE TO REALLY SEE THAT COME TO FRUITION. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE PERCOLATING AROUND TOWN THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY AND I'VE BEEN WANTING FOR SOME TIME FOR US TO REVIEW THE RULES ON ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT CAN ACTUALLY GET DONE AND HAVE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND IMPACT, AND THEN NOT GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. I'D LIKE US TO IF WE CAN AT SOME POINT, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT PROCESS AND SEE IF WE CAN REFINE IT AND NARROW IT IN SCOPE A LITTLE BIT. THE LAST THING IS, MR. WESTON HAS BEEN HERE MANY TIMES ABOUT DOLPHIN DRIVE AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT UP FORMALLY OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT HE KEEPS ASKING ME ABOUT IT AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A FORMAL RESOLUTION ON THAT FOR HIM, AND SO I'D LIKE TO IF WE COULD JUST FINALLY PLEASE DO THAT. THANKS. >> I'D LIKE TO REPEAT BACK ON THAT. SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ON THE NEIGHBORS ON DOLPHIN DRIVE, ARE THEY ALL ON BOARD? IS IT RIGHT HERE FROM STAFF AND IT'S NOT THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR IT? BUT I WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN THE SIDE ROAD, THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE FOUR FEET OF THEIR FRONT YARD. I KNOW HE'S HERE ALL THE TIME AND I DON'T WANT HIM WASTING HIS BREATH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON HAS ANYBODY IN THAT TOWN REACHED OUT TO THE TOWN TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T KNOW. I WASN'T HERE IS FROM HIM, AND FORMER COUNSELOR [INAUDIBLE] WHEN HE COMES IN AND SPEAK. I DON'T WANT MR. WESTON TO KEEP COMING IN HERE AND ASKING US TO DO SOMETHING I HAVE NO INFORMATION ON IT. I ALSO KNOW THE TOWN DOESN'T DO THAT FOR THE PRIVATE ROAD. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT ROAD? IS IT PRIVATE OR? >> I THINK IT'S THE TOWN ROAD. >> TOWN ROAD AND, OVER THE YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF ASSESSMENT PROGRAM FOR ROADS, WHICH IS USUALLY THE CASE. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL BEFORE THIS COUNCIL WAS SEATED ABOUT MR. BENOIT HAD DONE A MEMORANDUM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WELL, THAT OCCURRED WHEN IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE BUDGET TO THE EXTENT IT WAS EVER IN THERE. AND THE RATIONALE WAS IF WE DO A ROAD PROGRAM FOR THESE FOLKS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER FOLKS COMING IN ASKING FOR IT. BUT I THINK IF YOU RESURRECT THAT MEMORANDUM AND THE PAPERWORK THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCIL BACK THEN THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT Y-ALL ARE RAISING. >> BUT I WANT INPUT FROM ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD. >> I THINK IT WAS MR. WESTON, SOMEBODY BROUGHT IN A PETITION OR SOMETHING ABOUT IT THAT HAD YES, NO. FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTHY, FOR MANY YEARS, LIVED ON THAT ROAD AND I FORGET WHICH WAY HE VOTED. >> I KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE GOOD AND LIKE THE SIDEWALK ON, IS IT RIVERSIDE? >> RIVERSIDE. >> STAFF CAME A GREAT IDEA, AND THEN IT'S LIKE KICKING THE HORNETS NEST NEIGHBORS. I DON'T WANT THAT. I'M LOSING MY FRONT YARD, SO I DON'T WANT A SIMILAR SITUATION, SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE LEGALLY OBLIGED [02:05:01] TO DO AND MAYBE THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IF THEY NEED TO PAY FOR IT. HE COMES UP HERE. I'VE NO INFORMATION. I REMEMBER DISCUSSING THIS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, AND THEN IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE WEREN'T LIABLE OR WE WEREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. THAT'S IT >> I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE TAPE ROLLING. I'LL GO ON DOLPHIN DRIVE. IT'S NOT $20,000. IF IT WAS $20,000 WE WOULD ALREADY DONE IT. SOMETIMES NUMBERS GET THROWN AROUND HERE THAT MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, THIS IS A NUMBER THAT WE HAD HEARD AND IT JUST WASN'T JUSTIFIED. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNTS OF TOM MCCARTHY THAT LIVED ON THAT ROAD FOR DECADES ONE OF THE OPINION IT JUST WASN'T COST-JUSTIFIABLE. HIS CAREER HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC WORKS. HE'S AN ENGINEER AND DOES A LOT OF PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS IN HIS DATED IN PRIVATE PRACTICE. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS HE WAS NEVER HERE BECAUSE IN HIS MIND, THE WORLD THAT WAS THERE WORKED AND FUNCTION AND WHAT HAVE YOU SO AGREED LIKE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHICH OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MOST IMPACTED. IF STAFF CAN JUST SHOW ME THAT, THE HALF DOZEN NEVER GOING TO BE MOST IMPACTED I'LL GO LOOK. ANYWAY, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. THAT'S ALL I WANT ON THAT ONE. ON A STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES, I DO THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AND IT WAS A COUNCIL DECISION TO DEFINE IN YEARS PAST WHAT THAT WAS. BUT TO THE DEGREE WHAT WE NOW BELIEVE OR SIGNIFICANT ITEMS COULD GET THROUGH. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ASK IS, BUT I ALMOST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE THINGS IN THE PROCESS SO WE'RE NOT SURPRISED THAT THEY GO THROUGH SO IF A TOWN MANAGER CAN SEE HOW THAT CAN BE DONE SO WE HAVE AN ADVANCED LOOK AT IT BECAUSE IT MAY BE A WHILE. THAT MAY HELP US TO DEFINE. THAT'S THE THING THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE TO COME TO COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THAT ITEM. WE HAD GOTTEN AN EMAIL FROM SCOTT REYNOLDS ABOUT I THINK IT WAS AN EMAIL ABOUT THE TPAS ASK SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE FOR REFERENDUM AT A COUNTY LEVEL FOR FUNDING. I THINK IT WAS SUGGESTED IN AN EMAIL THAT YOU'LL BE AWARE ABOUT IT. I THOUGHT I HADVE SPOKE ABOUT THAT BEFORE, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD. THE TPA IS LOOKING FOR A SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR MOBILITY, TRANSLATE THAT IN A TRANSIT. THEY'D BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT FUNDING. IN SOME MUNICIPALITIES LIKE WESTBOUND AND THE GARDENS THAT WANT THAT. IF THE DRIVER WAS EVER TO BE EXPANDED, WE WERE HEARING IF IT WISHED TO BE EXPANDED IN A JUPITER, SOMEHOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY OPERATING COSTS AND ADMINISTER GOES BACK TO WHEN COMMISSIONER MARCUS WAS UP THERE AND SHE WAS DEFENDING THE UNREASONABLE LISTS OF THAT, HOW WAS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY ISN'T I DON'T PAY A PENNY, BUT IT'S UNREASONABLE TO ASK US, BUT IT HAS NEVER BEEN EXTENDED BECAUSE OPERATING COSTS HAVE NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, SO BOTTOM LINE, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS AGREED AT A TPA LEVEL WAS JUST SIMPLY TO GET THE ASK, IF THE SURTAX WAS EXPIRING AND NOBODY ELSE WAS IN LINE TO EXTEND IT, THAT WAS THE ASK. I DEFINITELY REPRESENTED THE TOWN SAID, WELL, UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE BENEFIT WOULD BE TO OUR PUBLIC, I'M NOT BEHIND IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MAKING IT VERY CLEAR UP HERE HOW I REPRESENTED THE COUNCIL, AND SO YOU DON'T READ TOO MUCH INTO WHAT THE ASK WAS. BECAUSE JUST LIKE THE LAST SURTAX, IF IT'S EVEN GOING TO BE CONSIDERED, A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY COME FORTH SAYING, "NO, WE'RE GOING TO DO A SURTAX. THIS IS A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THAT." SO THAT WAS A SURTAX OF SORTS ASKED TO COVER MOBILITY. AGAIN, I AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TPA SAID, [02:10:03] "WELL, WHAT'S IN IT FOR US?" WHEN YOU LOOK WORRIED OR TRANSIT IS IN THE COUNTY. WHICH IS WHY THE COUNTY WAS VERY INTERESTED IN. I HAVE A MEETING THAT I'VE GOT WITH THE COUNTY WHERE A COUNTY AND PANTRAN WANTED TO SHARE WITH ME WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DO WITH THAT MANY TRANSIT OR WHATEVER IN JUPITER. WHAT I LEARNED I'M GOING TO SHOW HERE. BUT, THEY REALLY WANT TO TRY TO DEMONSTRATE HOW MOBILITY MAYBE COULD BE COST-EFFECTIVELY EXPANDED. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. NO COMMITMENTS, IT'S GOT A LONG WAY TO GO TO GET ANYWHERE. WE HAVEN'T SIGNED UP FOR ANYTHING AND I NEVER WOULD ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT COMING BACK HERE. HOPEFULLY YOU ALL KNEW THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY IT. TERMINAL ITEMS JUST QUICKLY, THE LEGACY BRICK PROGRAM. OUR WEEKLY REPORT SAID 402 DAYS. IS THAT CORRECT? FOUR HUNDRED BRICKS IN TWO DAYS. >> I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE, [INAUDIBLE]. I'M JUST CHECKING WHICH ON HERE. >> FIFTY SEVEN IN TWO DAYS. >> FIFTY SEVEN IN TWO DAYS. >> FIFTY SEVEN? I DON'T KNOW WHERE I GOT THAT FROM, BUT I THOUGHT I ALSO READ SOMEWHERE LIKE WE'LL OFFER IT AGAIN IF THERE'S ROOM. I SURE HOPE. WHEN I SCULPTED OUT AND ASKED THE ENTIRE CIRCULAR AREA NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS IN FREE. ALL THAT MAY NOT REMEMBER. THE BRICKS WE HAVE OUR CONCRETE HE CAN'T DO IN PARK CONCRETE, SO IT HAS TO BE CHANGED OUT THE CLAY BRICKS TO BE. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT THIS PROJECT IS ADVANCING SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE GOT YEARS OF POTENTIAL AREAS. I THINK YOU REALLY HAVE TO REDO THE CIRCULAR THING I'D TALKED TO MIKE ABOUT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THEY ASK WAS RIGHT. >> DO WE APPROVE FUNDING FOR THAT WHEN WE DECIDED WE TALKED ABOUT THAT? >> NO. BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE DONE UNDER THE WHATEVER. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT, WE NEED TO BE WORRIED AS COST TO IT, AND YOU HEARING ME JUST ASK, I DON'T WANT TO DO A SMALL AREA. LET'S PLAN BECAUSE HOPEFULLY WE'VE ALSO ASKED FOR IT ON THE POLICE MEMORIAL ACROSS THE LEG. SAME THING. THAT'S COMING BACK WHEN THESE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT WE CAN'T RUN OUT OF SPACE. IF WE RUN OUT OF SPACE, THEN WE'RE NOT THINKING BIG ENOUGH. THEN GOES LASTLY, I WANT TO SHARE ON WASTE MANAGEMENT. I'M GOING TO CALL UP WASTE MANAGEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN. I WANT TO SEE A DEMO AND I'LL MAKE SURE STAFF IS THERE. I WANT TO SEE A DEMO OF ARTICULATING ARM. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TRUCKS LIKE THAT YET IN THE TOWN BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT YET AN ASSURANCE. BUT THEY GOT THEM. I WANT TO SEE A DEMO AND I WANT THEM TO PROVE TO ME THAT THEY CAN'T LIFT A 32 GALLON CONTAINER. I WANTED TO SEE A DEMO ON A 32, A 64, AND A 95. I ASKED THAT WHEN WE WERE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND MY QUESTIONS WERE EVADED. I WAS ALWAYS WAITING TO SEE BECAUSE THERE'S DECODER UNITS THAT ARE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE. I HAVE ONE AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR MYSELF. I'VE REALIZED IT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT. WE JUST WANT TO KNOW CAN IT BE DONE WITH THE EQUIPMENT? IF THAT CAN BE DONE IN EQUIPMENT THEN IT COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND POTENTIALLY SOME CONVERSATION WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. IF FOR SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT MINE, BUT SO MANY SMALLER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE LITTLE KINSEY SHARED, YOU CAN'T THE DOOR ISN'T WIDE ENOUGH TO GET THE THING THROUGH. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE HOPEFULLY REPORT BACK THROUGH THE TOWN MANAGER. I THINK HE INDICATED THAT HE WANTS TO SEE IT AND TOM AND WHATEVER. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ASK TO GET THAT DEMO TO KNOW IF IT'S EVEN AN OPTION. WE DID HERE, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT IN ABA COLA, THAT THEY ALWAYS STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE SECOND PERSON AND THEY PULL THE CAN OVER. THE TOTAL TYPE HAS THE BAR, SO WE KNOW THAT THAT'S PRACTICAL. IS IT IN THE CONTRACT? NO. BUT I THINK ALL OF US ARE INTERESTED IF DO SOME REAL HARDSHIP AREAS, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT OPTIONS CAN BE DONE WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE. WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT. WITH THAT, I GO DOWN THE LINE, COUNCILOR SUNSTROKE. >> THAT WAS A LOT LOT. I DO WANT TO EXPRESS SUPPORT AS WELL FOR THE POLICE BUILDING AND WHAT WAS SAID HERE TONIGHT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL PIECE OF HISTORY. WE LEARNED A LOT WHEN WE'RE NAMING AN ISLAND RECENTLY. I HAD LOOKED AT OTHER POLICIES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND IT REALLY IS [02:15:04] INVOLVED AND IT'S NEVER IDEAL TO NAME SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN EXISTING FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME JUST BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE AND LOGISTICS RELATED TO MAPS AND NAMING OF EVERYTHING ACROSS ALL DOCUMENTS, IT'S A LOT OF WORK. WE HAVEN'T HAD OUR POLICE BUILDING FOR TOO LONG AND I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AND IT'D BE A WAY TO HONOR OUR HISTORY. WITH REGARDS TO MR. WESTON. I'VE TAKEN SOME INTEREST IN THAT AND I I LOOK AT THINGS BIG PICTURE AND I SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR. I SEE WHAT KRISTEN OVER AND PINE GARDEN SOUTH, WHICH SHE COMES FORWARD AND SAYS WITH SIDEWALKS AND CHILDREN IN JUPITER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND I SEE MR. WESTON WITH HIS ROAD AS WELL. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF POLICY QUESTIONS WRAPPED UP INTO THIS. IT'S A BIGGER PICTURE TO ME, WHICH IS WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE TOWN. WELL, THIS IS A QUESTION OF THE OLDER PARTS OF TOWN AND IMPROVING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS AND CHILDREN DO HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREET TO GET TO SCHOOL. WE DO HAVE ROADS THAT DON'T MEET CODE NOW, I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS A BIG ISSUE, A COMPLICATED ISSUE AND AN EXPENSIVE ISSUE. BUT I HAD TALKED TO HER TOWN MANAGER ABOUT MAYBE LOOKING AT A LONG-TERM PLAN OF HOW WOULD YOU EVEN BEGIN TO ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND HOW WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE THE AREAS AROUND TOWN? IS IT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IMPACTED OR HOW COULD YOU LOOK AT THAT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I SEE A BENEFIT IN SIDEWALKS FOR CHILDREN TO WALK TO SCHOOL ON A SIDEWALK FOR SAFETY REASONS. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANTS. IT'S JUST SUCH A HUGE, I FEEL LIKE I'M OPENING A BOTTLE HERE. IT'S JUST A REALLY BIG CONCERN, BUT IT'S NOT ONE THAT WE HAVE TO IGNORE. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY AND MAYBE THE FIRST STEP WOULD JUST BE A PLAN. WHAT WOULD IT EVEN LOOK LIKE IN THE TOWN? WHICH AREAS WOULD BE PRIORITIZED? HOW WOULD THAT EVEN BE FUNDED? WHAT COST-SHARING WOULD LOOK LIKE? IT'S A REALLY BIG QUESTION, BUT I VIEW THOSE THINGS IS SOMEWHAT RELATED. MAYBE THIS IS A CAN OF WORMS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SEEING THROUGH IT AND I DO TAKE AN INTEREST IN IT, BUT I DO SEE ALL OF THESE POLICY QUESTIONS WRAPPED UP INTO IT BECAUSE IF WE LOOK AT ONE STREET, WELL, THERE ARE THESE OTHERS, SO IT'S A QUESTION TO ME. LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE WITH TPA. I HAD KNOWN ABOUT THAT THROUGH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT SOMEWHERE. I KNOW IT'S EARLY DAYS AND I DO SUPPORT GO GLIDES. WELL, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IT. LET'S SAY THAT IT DOES SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF RETURNS AND THEY DID SAY THEY WANTED TO BRING IT TO JUPITER. IF THERE IS ANY INFORMATION ABOUT IT COMING [OVERLAPPING] TO THE TOWN. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S I DID WAIT. I WAITED TO REGISTER MY DAUGHTERS FOR SUMMER CAMP AND I WAS PART OF THAT EXPERIENCE AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR STAFF THERE ON IT TO MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE AND IT WAS SOMETHING NEW THIS YEAR. I KNOW THEY HAD DONE A RAFFLE THE PREVIOUS YEAR. I'M PLEASED WITH HOW QUICKLY WE'RE ABLE TO MOBILIZE AND EVERYTHING. THANK YOU FOR THAT EFFORT. I DO LIKE ALSO JUST ONE MORE THING FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. I AGREE WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL IF WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. I WONDER IF IT MIGHT HELP EASE THE BURDEN ON PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A LOT ON THEIR PLATE RIGHT NOW. THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER BENEFIT TO IT AS WELL. THAT'S ALL. >> YEAH, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS FOR LOOKING INTO THAT PROCESS AND TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN GET THAT LOOKED AT QUICKLY. I FORGOT TO MENTION EARLIER TO THANK MY PARENTS [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM, MY WIFE AND I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING THAT WE DO. SHE'S VERY BUSY PERSON WITH HER JOB AND STUFF. I JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO THEM. JUST GOT BACK FROM TALLAHASSEE TODAY ACTUALLY. IT'S A LOT OF FUN UP THERE, BUT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPLY THEIR LOBBYISTS THAT WE HIRED AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT STUFF. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY WITH THEM TO LOBBY FOR THINGS THAT WE NEED IN THIS TOWN. [02:20:08] GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE ROGER TEENS STADIUM THING. IT'S LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THIS PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE COMPETING FOR FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. GOING FORWARD, WE REALLY NEED TO UTILIZE THEM TO START LOOKING FOR FUNDING FROM THE STATE LEVEL WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RELIEVE THE BURDEN FROM THE TOWN AS FAR AS FUNDING GOES AND PUT IT BACK ON THE STATE FOR A LOT OF THINGS. WE HAD AT ONE TIME WITH JONES CREEK. WE HAD FUNDING FROM THE STATE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT GOT LINE-ITEM VETO DURING COVID BECAUSE NO ONE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE CAME OUT OF IT. THAT WAS UNFORTUNATELY I MISSED OPPORTUNITY. WE SAW IT AS WE NEED IT TO DO THIS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT THINGS LIKE THAT GOING FORWARD, WE REALLY NEED TO PURSUE THE STATE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THIS FUNDING. I THINK IT REALLY HELPED US OUT IN THE LONG RUN. IF I ENCOURAGE EVERY ONE OF YOU TO, I THINK MOST OF YOU PROBABLY SAT WITH THEM AND TALK TO THEM, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T, DEFINITELY HAVE STAFF PUT YOU IN CONTACT AND SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO THERE. THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE. THANK YOU STAFF FOR THE CHOCOLATE COVERED STRAWBERRIES. I APPRECIATE THAT. MY KIDS ARE GOING TO LOVE THOSE. >> OH, YEAH, THANK YOU [LAUGHTER]. REGARDING THE LOBBYING FIRM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND FROM THE TOWN MANAGER HOW THAT'S BEING MANAGED, BECAUSE I GET A REPORT EVERY DAY. IT'S NOT EFFICIENT FOR ME TO READ THAT EVERY DAY, SO LONG AS I KNOW THERE'S A POINT PERSON DOING THAT. AM I GOING TO MISS SOMETHING? THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE. LAST TIME WE HAD A LOBBYIST. WHAT WE GOT IS EVERY WONDER CLIENT GOT TO REPORT, BUT IT REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE SOME CHAMPION IN THE TOWN WHICH PROBABLY EXISTS. I'M SURE, BUT CAN YOU LET US ALL KNOW THAT. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A POINT THERE. >> IT DOES, MAYOR. IT'S OUR ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER. >> OKAY. >> SHE IS SHEPHERDING THAT SHE IS THE POINT OF CONTACT. WE HAVE REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH THEM FOR CHAT AND REALIZING THE SELECTION PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS LOBBYISTS FOR MANY YEARS TRYING TO FLORIDA POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND THEY REALLY ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. WE GET REGULAR FEEDBACK FROM THEM IN CAGES, IN CONTACT WITH THEM. WE HAVE A FEW SOME OF OUR PENDING PROJECTS LIKE THE HRB ISSUE, FOR EXAMPLE. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT ISSUE PRETTY DILIGENTLY FOR US AT THE MOMENT. WE STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO ANSWER, BUT WE DO HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT. >> YEAH, TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE PROCESS TOO, IN A WAY TO BRING COUNCIL IN SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S BEING LOOKED AT AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, HAD THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CHASE STATE FUNDING ON THIS, ETC. WORK WITH IT. LOOK AT THE LOBBYISTS RIGHT NOW. THE PROCESSES ARE SEPARATED AND I WANT TO TRY TO INTEGRATE IT. >> I'LL BE CONVINCED THAT WE'RE THERE. I'M RELATIVELY GOOD. I'M HAPPY WITH THE ANSWER, BUT I'VE GOTTEN ABOUT TWO MONTHS EVERY DAY OF A REPORT. I'M EXPECTING ASKING THAT STAFF BRINGING TO MY ATTENTION WHEN ONE IS ONE I SHOULD READ. THERE SHOULD BE SOME OF THOSE WHERE THERE'S A JEWEL IN THERE. JUST LET US KNOW, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE PROCESS, I JUST GET TOO MANY EMAILS THAT IT'S NOT REASONABLE TO READ. I MEAN, I SCAN THEM, THEN I PUT UP GOING TO MISS SOME AND I DON'T WANT TO MISS ONE. IF THERE IS A GOOD ONE IN THERE THAT'S TYING INTO SOMETHING, SHOULD I WENT STRAIGHT? IT COULD BE IN A WEEKLY REPORT. >> YEAH, I WOULD SAY, SECTION, THE WEEKLY REPORT. >> YEAH. >> LOBBYISTS ACTIVITIES. >> YEAH. >> YEAH, I'VE BEEN GRATEFUL FOR THOSE REPORTS RIGHT NOW, JUST LEARNING THE CONTEXTS. I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE COUNTY THAT MORE BECAUSE THERE IS A NEW COUNTY COMMISSION AND THEY'VE HAD Y'ALL MAY BENEFIT FROM THESE WORKSHOPS, WHICH I'VE BENEFITED FROM DATE, BECAUSE THERE'S A NEW COMMISSION. THEY'RE HOLDING A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS AND THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE ONLINE, BUT THEY ARE DOING GROWTH, PLANNING AND GROWTH AND WATER AND ALL OF THESE TOPICS ADDRESSED FOR THE NEW COMMISSION. I'VE BEEN USUALLY WHEN THEY TALK OR GIVE A BRIEFING. IT'S A LOT OF INSIDER BASEBALL AT THE COUNTY LEVEL THAT MAY NOT BE TOO FAMILIAR TO ME, BUT THESE WORKSHOPS ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE NEW COMMISSION. IT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT PERSPECTIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THAT'S GOING ON AROUND WORKFORCE, [02:25:02] HOUSING AND GROWTH AND THESE THEMES THAT YOU HEAR AT THE COUNTY AND STATE LEVEL. THEN I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING SOME OF THE STATE BILLS THAT THE COUNTY HAS FLAGGED AND THAT OTHERS HAVE FLAGGED. IT'S JUST BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW THESE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND HOW THEY MAY IMPACT US. >> ALSO I JUST WANT TO ADD REAL QUICK. I'M ALSO VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE RENAMING OF THE POLICE BUILDING FOR CHIEF GLYNN MAYO. >> THE TIME IS 9:26 MONTH JOURNEY MEETING. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.