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>> GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 PM,
[Call to Order]
AND I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 7TH 2023.WE BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> DEAR GOD, GUIDE US TONIGHT AS WE SEEK TO DO OUR BEST TO SERVE OTHERS, GIVE US THE COURAGE AND INNER STRENGTH TO BE OUR TRUE SELVES AND THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT. AMEN.
>> LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
>> CAN YOU READ THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
>> CAN WE BEGIN TONIGHT'S MEETING?
[1. 2-1-1 Helpline Awareness Month – Ms. Randee Gabriel, 2-1-1 Palm Beach/Treasure Coast.]
I HAVE A PROCLAMATION WHICH I WANT TO READ, AND THEN WE'LL BE GIVING IT TO THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM 211, KAREN BAILEY, AND I THINK SHE HAS A PRESENTATION TO GIVE AS I UNDERSTAND.LET ME START WITH THE PROCLAMATION.
THIS IS A PROCLAMATION OF THE COUNTY JUPITER FLORIDA DECLARING FEBRUARY 2023 IS 211 AWARENESS MONTH.
WHEREAS 211 HELPLINE IS ENTERING ITS SIXTH DECADE OF QUALITY AND CARRYING SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS OVER THIS SPAN OF TIME 211 HELPLINE HAS RESPONDED TO OVER THREE MILLION REQUESTS FOR HELP FROM PEOPLE OF ALL WALKS OF LIFE, PROVIDING GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT THEY'VE NEEDED, 211 CONTINUE TO DO SO THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF CURRENT TIMES.
WHEREAS MENTAL, EMOTIONAL, HEALTH, ADDICTION, HOUSING, UTILITIES, FOOD AND SECURITY AND HEALTH CONCERNS ARE THE TOP NEEDS EXPRESSED BY PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO US, AND WHEREAS 211'S CURRENT STAFF CONTINUE TO BE THAT BEACON OF HOPE PROVIDING CRISIS SUPPORT AND RESOURCES WHEN PEOPLE ARE OVERWHELMED AND DID NOT KNOW WHERE TO TURN.
211 IS AVAILABLE ANYTIME OF DAY OR NIGHT.
WHEREAS 211 ALSO HAS SPECIALIZED ADVOCACY AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT INCLUDE THE CAREGIVING SUPPORT PROJECT, THE SPECIAL NEEDS HELPLINE, HELPED ME GROW CATCHING CHILDREN'S DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS EARLY, ELDERLY CRISIS OUTREACH, AND WHEREAS 211 LIFE-SAVING SUNSHINE DAILY TELEPHONE REASSURANCE CALLS CONTINUE TO BRIGHTEN LIVES OF LOCAL ISOLATED SENIORS, IT HAS EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ISOLATED CAREGIVERS.
WHEREAS 211 MY FLORIDA VETERANS, PROVIDES PEER-TO-PEER SUPPORT, AND HELPS VETERANS TO ADJUST, PROVIDING LINKAGE TO SERVICES FOR VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
NOW THEREFORE, I JIM KURETSKI, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER DO HERE PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2023 AS 211 AWARENESS MONTH IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO BE AWARE THAT IF THEY ARE OVERWHELMED AND IN CRISIS OR JUST NEED TO TALK, 211 IS AVAILABLE ANYTIME DAY OR NIGHT, 211 STAFF CAN ALSO PROVIDE REFERRALS FOR MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, HEALTH CARE, EMPLOYMENT, ASSISTANCE, FOOD ASSISTANCE, DAYCARE, SUPPORT GROUPS, VOLUNTEERING, FIND A FREE INCOME, TAX PREPARATION, AND SO MUCH MORE.
IN WITNESS TO WHEREOF I HERE TO SEND MY HAND ON THE 7TH DAY OF FEBRUARY 2023. [BACKGROUND]
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I APPRECIATE YOU SPONSORING OUR AWARENESS PROCLAMATION.
MY NAME IS KAREN BAILEY, AND I AM THE OUTREACH COORDINATOR FOR THE PROGRAM, HELP ME GROW, WHICH IS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF 211.
LAST YEAR IN OUR FIVE COUNTY SERVICE, WHICH IS OKEECHOBEE, INDIAN RIVER, MARTIN'S, ST. LUCIE AND PALM BEACH COUNTY, WE RESPONDED TO CLOSE TO 127 REQUESTS FOR HELP.
PALM BEACH COUNTY MADE UP OVER 49,000 OF THESE REQUESTS.
FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, THERE WERE OVER 76,000 PROBLEMS THAT NEEDS EXPRESSED, HOUSING BEING RANKED NUMBER 1, WITH OVER 21,000 REQUESTS FOR HELP REPRESENTING 28% OF THE TOTAL NEEDS CALL PER DAY, WHICH EQUALS 58 CALLS.
MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS WAS THE SECOND-HIGHEST NEED AT OVER 20,000 CALLS, MAKING UP 27% OF THE REQUEST FOR HELP, 57 CALLS PER DAY, WITH 801 PEOPLE IN SUICIDAL CRISIS AT TWO PER DAY ON AVERAGE.
WE ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT PEOPLE IN CRISIS CAN DIAL 211 OR 988 FOR CRISIS SUPPORT.
NOTE FOR REGIONAL STATS, MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS AT 48,000 OR 33% OF THE PROBLEM NEEDS WITH AN AVERAGE OF 134 CALLS PER DAY WITH SUICIDAL CONCERNS AVERAGING CLOSE TO 12 CRISIS CALLS IN ONE DAY.
IN ADDITION TO THE HELPLINE AND CRISIS LINE WORK THAT WE DO, 211 ALSO HAS ADVOCACY PROGRAMS TO HELP SPECIALIZED POPULATIONS.
THE HELP ME GROW PROGRAM, WHICH I WORK FOR, IS A CHILDREN'S PROGRAM TO ENSURE THAT CHILDREN ARE MEETING THEIR DEVELOPMENTAL MILESTONES.
IF A PARENT HAS A CONCERN, THEY CAN SIMPLY DIAL 211 AND ASK FOR HELP ME GROW SPECIALIST.
WE OFFER SCREENINGS OVER THE PHONE SO THAT THE FAMILY CAN HAVE A SCREENING DONE.
IF THE SCREENING DOES SHOW THAT THERE ARE DELAYS, WE HELP THAT FAMILY LINK TO RESOURCES IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT WILL HELP THEIR CHILD.
WE HAVE OUR SPECIAL NEEDS HELP LINE, WHICH PROVIDES SPECIAL NEEDS SERVICES FOR AGES 0-22, HELPING PEOPLE NAVIGATE SERVICES AND RESOURCES.
WE ALSO OFFER THE 211 ELDERLY CRISIS OUTREACH, WHICH IS A SHORT-TERM CASE MANAGEMENT FOR VULNERABLE AND DISTRESSED ELDERS 60 PLUS YEARS LIVING IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, HELPING THEM TO LINK TO CRITICAL RESOURCES ALSO.
FOR SENIORS, WE HAVE OUR LIFESAVING DAILY SUNSHINE CALL, WHICH IS JUST A WELL CHECK FOR SENIORS 60 PLUS YEARS OLD LIVING AT HOME WITH NO ONE ELSE, BUT THAT CALL TO RELY ON EVERY DAY.
OUR CAREGIVER SUPPORT PROGRAM PROVIDES SUPPORT AND RESOURCES FOR CAREGIVERS 18 AND UP WHO ARE CARING FOR ANOTHER ADULT FAMILY MEMBER.
WE HAVE ALSO EXPANDED OUR SUNSHINE CALLS FOR THESE CAREGIVERS AS WE KNOW HOW ISOLATING CAREGIVING CAN POTENTIALLY BE.
WE ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT LINES FOR SPECIALIZED POPULATIONS, WE'VE STARTED A NEW MY VET PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDES PEER TO PEER SUPPORT FOR VETERANS AND ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY, AND HELPS NOT ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT ALSO THEIR FAMILIES AND FINDING IMPORTANT RESOURCES AND SERVICES.
OUR NEWEST SUPPORT IS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, HELPS ACTIVE REFORMER RETIRED FIRST RESPONDERS, PROVIDING PEER TO PEER SUPPORT AND HELPS THE INDIVIDUAL AND THEIR FAMILIES ALSO LINK TO IMPORTANT RESOURCES.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THIS PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING AND FOR RECOGNIZING 211 AS A VITAL SERVICE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
WE NOW MOVE ON TO THE CITIZENS COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
[CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THIS IS A TIME FOR CITIZENS AND IT'S LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH TO NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA AND ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IS ASKED TO STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PRIOR TO ADDRESSING A TOWN COUNCIL.WE GENERALLY WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING AND ANY ISSUES WOULD BE REFERRED TO STAFF FOR FOLLOW-UP AND REPORTING BACK TO US SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?
>> YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE TWO, BRETT LEONE AFTER BRETT IS GOING TO SEKO.
>> [NOISE] EVENING, COUNCIL OUR TOWN MANAGER FOR THE RECORD BRETT LEONE ALCOA.
FIRST WANT TO START OFF AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A LITTLE BIT LATE, BUT WANT TO THANK THE LEADERSHIP OF THE TOWN MANAGER AS WELL AS
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OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE WORK THAT THE OFFICERS DID OVER ON THE WEST COAST AFTER HURRICANE AND I HAVE FAMILY THAT LIVE OVER THERE AND I WAS REALLY PROUD TO SEE JPD PATROL CARS ON THE ROAD HELPING OUT THE CITIZENS OVER THERE.I REALLY MEANT A LOT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.
A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS I WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, AND SINCE TIME IS LIMITED, WON'T BE ABLE TO GET INTO TOO MUCH TOPIC OR TOO MUCH DETAILS ON ALL OF THIS.
BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS I'VE NOTICED AND APPRECIATE WHEN THE BUDGET WAS PASSED, THAT THERE WAS A LINE ITEM FOR HOLIDAY DECORATIONS AND LOVED SEEING THE LIGHTS IN TOWN HALL AT DIFFERENT VARIOUS PARKS.
HOWEVER, WHAT WAS A LITTLE CONCERNING, WHAT WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN IS THERE WAS A LACK OF DIVERSITY.
IT WAS CHRISTMAS THEMED, 100%.
THERE WAS NO RECOGNITION OF ANY OTHER HOLIDAYS THAT WERE CELEBRATED DURING THAT HOLIDAY TIME.
I'VE TRAVELED THE STATE DURING THAT TIME, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT WENT UP TO OKEECHOBEE.
I SAW DECORATIONS FOR HANUKKAH ON PUBLIC PARKS IN FRONT OF PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
THERE'S A REALLY STRONG JEWISH COMMUNITY IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIVERSITY IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THIS COUNCIL LACKS RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY, AND I THINK THAT SHOWS IN WHAT WAS PUT OUT THERE.
THEN I COME TO SEE AN EVENT THAT I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING MY KIDS TO A TOUCH A TRUCK EVENT.
WE DO IT DOWN AT GARDENS OF PUBLIC SAFETY DAY WAS THIS PAST WEEKEND.
NORTH PALM BEACH HAS ONE AS WELL.
WHAT DO I SEE? IT'S EASTER THEMED.
WHY DOES A RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY HAVE TO BE TIED TO A PUBLIC EVENT LIKE THAT? I UNDERSTAND IF YOU WANT TO DO AN EASTER ICON THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE, THAT'S GEARED TOWARDS PEOPLE THAT CELEBRATE EASTER.
EASTER IS NOT JUST A FLYBY HOLIDAY.
EASTER IS A PRETTY RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY.
I'M NOT CHRISTIAN I'M JEWISH, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF EASTER AND I JUST WONDER WHY IT HAS TO BE TIED TO A PUBLIC EVENT LIKE THAT.
NEXT. NOTICE THAT THEN HEARD THAT THE TOLL BOOTHS AT THE TURNPIKE ARE BEING CLOSED DOWN AND I'VE HEARD THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE TURNPIKE TO KEEP THE PARK AND RIDE LOTS OPEN.
JUST WONDERING IF THE TOWN HAS DONE THAT.
THOSE ARE BIG PUBLIC SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND WITH INDIANTOWN BEING THE CLOSEST EXIT ON 95 AND THE TURNPIKE, I BET THOSE ARE USED A LOT, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THAT.
LASTLY, UNFORTUNATELY, LAST WEEK THERE WAS A TRAGIC ACCIDENT ON CENTER STREET AND I KNOW A FEW YEARS AGO THAT THE TOWN, PALM BEACH COUNTY WENT AND EXPANDED A WESTERN PORTION OF CENTER STREET AND THERE WERE SOME TALKS ABOUT DOING IT ON THE EASTERN PART.
I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE THE TOWN OF JUPITER TO LOOK AT TRYING TO TAKE OVER CONTROL OF CENTER STREET OR AT LEAST REALLY STRONGLY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IN LINE WITH THE VISION ZERO THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED BY THE COUNCIL.
A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT ROAD.
A LOT MORE TRAFFIC IS ON IT AS WELL, BUT WE NEED TO REDUCE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS INVOLVED WITH PEDESTRIANS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> GOOD EVENING. GLENN WITH A CHUNK.
I'LL SEND IT TO MY FLORIDA FRONT OF DONNACONA, DRIVE MALLORY CREEK, JUPITER, FLORIDA.
[NOISE]I'M HERE TO BRING TO ATTENTION TO THE COUNCIL HERE AGAIN, RESOLUTION 49-19.
IT WAS AN APPLICATION TO ALTER THE DESIGN OF MALLORY CREEK THAT LED TO THE RESOLUTION 49-19 IN THAT APPLICATION WAS ILLEGAL.
IT WAS NEVER APPROVED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DECLARATION, MALLORY CREEK, THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, AND IT IS A CONTRAVARIANT FLORIDA 720, IT CONTRAVENES 617 AND THE CONFLICTS THAT EXIST.
STILL THE BOARD IS MOVING FORWARD.
THE BOARD IS NOT AUTHORIZED TO MAKE SUCH MOVE WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE ASSOCIATION.
AS DEFINED IN 720-3019, THE DEFINITION OF THE ASSOCIATIONS, THE VOTING MEMBERSHIP, THE VOTING MEMBERSHIP MADE OF PARCEL OWNERS, WHICH MEMBERSHIP IS A MANDATORY CONDITION OF PARCEL OWNERSHIP.
THE TOWN CANNOT LEGALLY APPROVE BY RECORD THESE ALTERATIONS WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE ASSOCIATION AS DEFINED.
THE BOARD NEVER GOT APPROVAL OF THE MEMBERSHIP.
NOWHERE IN DECLARATION OR THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION OR THE BYLAWS, OR IN FLORIDA 720.
DOES IT SAY THAT THE BOARD OWNS THE CONTENT AREA OR IT IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THE ASSOCIATION.
THE TOWN NEEDS TO USE CHAPTER 13, WHICH YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING.
IN ANY ITERATION, TO REMOVE THE OBSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE IN LOOSENS, WHICH OFFENSES, THAT ARE IN FACT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
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THIS IS A DECADE OLD.THOSE NUISANCES HAVE BEEN ALLOWED, THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED.
THE TOWN NEEDS TO ACT APPROPRIATELY.
IN MINUTES TO THE LAST HOA MEETING, THEY WROTE ON SUCH A WAY TO SAY THAT THE TOWN'S PREVIOUS LAWYER KEPT CHANGING HIS APPOINTMENT ON THIS MATTER, AND THAT'S WHY HE'S NO LONGER INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER.
THE TOWN LAWYER WAS ALSO CONFLICTED.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS THE NAME AND THE TELEPHONE NUMBER OF THE MAIN ATTORNEY FOR THE TOWN ON THIS MATTER AND MEET AGAIN, SAY WHAT THIS MATTER IS.
I NEED HIS NAME AND HIS PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE I'M ACTING PRO SE ON THIS, SO WE NEED TO TALK.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEFORE US THE MINUTES OF
[2. January 11, 2023 Town Council Special Meeting Minutes and January 17, 2023 Town Council Meeting Minutes.]
THE JANUARY 11TH TOWN COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING AND THE JANUARY 17TH COUNCIL MEETING.I THINK WE HAVE BEFORE US ON THE DICE SOME MINOR CORRECTIONS.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THEM OR CAN I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE?
>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS IS ITEMS 3,
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4 AND 5 ON THE AGENDA.FIRST, I'D ASK IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANTED TO PULL ONE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS?
>> THREE. TOWN MANAGER, ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL?
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PULL NUMBER 3.
>> OKAY. WITH THAT REVISED, I NEED A MOTION ON THE AGENDA.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 4 AND 5.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> OKAY. SO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BEING RESOLUTION 623 AND RESOLUTION 15, 23, MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY.
WITH THAT, WE GO BACK TO THE ITEM THAT WAS PULLED,
[3. Ordinance 4-23, First Reading, Nonresidential Building Standards – Town Code Text Amendment to Chapter 13, entitled “Nuisances”, to make the provisions of Article II applicable to all buildings and structures in the Town, and repealing Sections 13-43, 13- 44, 13-45, and 13-46. (second reading 2/21/23)]
ITEM NUMBER 3, ORDINANCE FOR F-23, FIRST READING WRITTEN ON RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS STANDARDS.>> DO YOU WANT THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK FIRST?
>> YEAH, DO YOU WANT A PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING?
>> I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.
>> A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAD PULLED THAT ITEM TO SPEAK.
>> GLENN, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS AS WELL?
>> SO I JUST HAD ONE SMALL CHANGE I WANTED TO MAKE ACTUALLY ON PAGE 6 OF THE ORDINANCE, SECTION 13-42.
IT SAYS, IF AT ANY TIME THE TOWN SHALL DEEM IT NECESSARY OR EXPEDIENT FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY AND THEN YOU'LL SEE STRUCK OR FOR THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE TOWN OR FOR ANY OTHER GOOD REASON.
I'D LIKE TO UNSTRIKE THAT IF POSSIBLE, AND LEAVE THAT LANGUAGE JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO BE SURE OUR HANDS ARE NOT TIED.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US OR BROUGHT TO ME BY A RESIDENT WHO IS VERY THOROUGH, INTERVIEWING THEM PAPERWORK, AND I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH IT.
IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT CHANGE.
I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THIS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS, WE'RE MODERNIZING THE CODE WITH RESPECT TO CODE COMPLIANCE, BUT THIS WILL DO SO MUCH GOOD AND REMOVING RESIDENTIAL FROM THE LANGUAGE OF SECTION 2.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN WE THINK OF CODE COMPLIANCE, WE THINK OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
THIS ALLOWS CODE COMPLIANCE TO APPLY TO NON-RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE APPROACH ME ABOUT
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INDIANTOWN AND ITS APPEARANCE OR BUILDINGS, A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMERCIAL AREAS.THIS ALLOWS CODE COMPLIANCE TO WORK IN THOSE SPACES NOW, SO THIS IS A REALLY USEFUL THING AND I KNOW THAT THE SUPERVISOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE WHO HELPED RECOMMEND IT, I BELIEVE HIS NAME IS CHRIS ALLES OR AISLES, I'M SURE IS PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS FOR BECAUSE THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR THE TOWN AND RECOMMEND THOSE CHANGES ON PAGE 6.
I MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE CHANGES IN SECTION 1342.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND AND I ASK THE TERRITORY TO READ THE MOTION SHORT TITLE.
>> IT'S FOR 23, AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL WAS HELD JUPITER, FLORIDA, THEN IN CHAPTER 13 AND TONS OF CODE OF ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO RESIDENTIAL BUILDING STANDARDS, PREVENTING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 2, MAKING ITS PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO ALL BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES WITHIN THE TOWN, PROVIDING FOR THEM PAYLOAD SECTION IS 1343, 1344, 1345 AND 1346 PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, PROVIDING FOR THEIR APPEAL OF LAWS AND CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> COUNCIL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
[6. Resolution 5-23, 550 Bush Road, - Quasi-judicial - Small scale planned unit development (SSPUD) application to request a two-unit per acre increase in density; Site plan application to construct 35 multi-family residential units with five workforce housing units, and request a workforce housing density bonus on a 2.93 +/- acre property, located at 550 Bush Road.]
FIRST ITEM, ONLY ITEM REGULAR AGENDA RESOLUTION 523550 BUSH ROAD.DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES?
>> I DO. WE RECEIVE VARIOUS EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS, I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH MB HAGUE, DROVE BY THE SITE AND I WATCHED THE PLANNING ZONING MEETING.
I'VE SPOKEN STAFF, RECEIVED A NUMBER OF EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS, AND I BELIEVE I'VE SPOKEN WITH MB HAGUE, AND TERI GROOMS.
>> SEVERAL EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSED TO IT.
I DROVE BY THE SITE NEARLY EVERY DAY.
I'M SURE ALL OF US DID EMAILS FROM VARIOUS RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
THIS BEING A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING, I'D ASK ANY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WHO'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY PROVIDE TESTIMONY TO PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN IN.
>> DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS HEARING IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE APPLICANT PROVIDING PRESENTATION.
YOUR PRESENTATION IS LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES.
IF YOU DID NOT, YOU'VE ONLY 15 MINUTES, YOU MAY RESERVE THE REMAINING TIME FOR CLOSING ARGUMENT OR REBUTTAL.
>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I AM REPRESENTING RICH PROPERTIES, FLORIDA.
WE ARE A FAMILY-OWNED AND OPERATED BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
WE DEVELOP OUR COMMUNITIES AND WE MANAGE OUR COMMUNITIES.
TONIGHT I WILL BE PRESENTING 550 BUSH ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS SEAGLASS TOWNHOMES.
SO 550 BUSH ROAD IS A VACANT 2.93 ACRE PARCEL.
IT IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH INDIANTOWN ROAD ON BUSH ROAD.
CURRENTLY THE LAND HAS TWO STRUCTURES, A HOME AND A SANCTUARY.
THE SANCTUARY IS BEING USED CURRENTLY AS A CHURCH, AND THE HOME IS OCCUPIED BY A FAMILY.
THE TOWNHOMES, I'M PROPOSING ARE A THREE BEDROOMS, TWO-AND-A-HALF BATHROOMS, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE 35 UNITS.
FIVE OF THE UNITS WILL BE PROVIDED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US. I DID INTRODUCE MYSELF, MILES RICH WITH RICH PROPERTIES.
WE'VE BUILT OVER 2000 UNITS ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA,
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PORT ST. LUCIE, PALM BEACH COUNTY, FORT MEYERS, AS WELL AS DUVAL COUNTY IN JACKSONVILLE IN TALLAHASSEE.WE ARE A CERTIFIED GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
WE KEEP MEMBERSHIPS WITH ALL THE NATIONAL APARTMENT ASSOCIATION IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE REQUESTING A SITE PLAN APPROVAL THIS EVENING FOR 35 UNITS.
THE PROJECT WILL INCORPORATE A PRIVATE POOL AND THE LEASING OFFICE, AS WELL AS A PLAYGROUND.
ACCORDING TO SECTION 27-1417, THE ZONING CURRENTLY IS R3 AND IT PERMITS THE USE OF TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
OUR DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY MEETS BUT EXCEEDS THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WITH GREEN SPACE, SETBACKS, PARKING, AND A LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
CURRENTLY, I PULLED UP THIS MAP, YOU CAN SEE THE LAND USE, THE ZONING EXISTING IS BROWN, R3 AND EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH, AND WEST IS ALSO R3 ZONING.
IT HAS A FUTURE LAND USE COMPONENT OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, WEST, AND EAST TO NORTH.
THIS IS A CHART FOR EVERYONE TO SEE AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS, EVERYONE IN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COPIES OF IT.
THIS IS THE DENSITY CALCULATION.
YOU CAN SEE THIS IS HOW WE ACHIEVED 35 UNITS.
WE'RE GOING FOR A SMALL-SCALE PUD.
WE'RE INCORPORATING GREEN BUILDING THEORIES, WHICH IS THROUGH THE FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION. I'LL GET INTO THAT.
WE INCLUDE BIOSWALES AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT AS WELL AS THE GREEN BUILDING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
WE NEED ALL THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE 96 PARKING SPACES AND PER THE CODE, WE ONLY ARE REQUIRED 77.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE GARAGE BECAUSE THE GARAGE IS PROVIDED IN THE PARKING CALCULATION AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE STORAGE WHILE A CAR IS PULLED IN AND THE TRASH CAN.
WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 18 SQUARE FEET OF CLOSET SPACE IN THAT GARAGE FOR STORAGE.
RESIDENCES DON'T HAVE ANY CONFLICT OF PARKING A CAR AND STORING STUFF.
THIS IS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING CHART.
THIS SHOWS US WHO WILL BE LIVING IN THOSE FIVE UNITS.
FOUR OF THEM WILL BE FOR THE LOW-INCOME CATEGORY OF PALM BEACH COUNTY'S AMI, WHICH IS THE 61 PERCENT COLUMN HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE SCREEN.
ONE OF THE FIVE UNITS WILL BE 81 PERCENT OF THE AMI, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ON THE SCREEN.
THAT COMES OUT TO $1,285 PER MONTH FOR THE FOUR LOW-INCOME UNITS AND $1,740 PER MONTH FOR THE MODERATE INCOME LIMIT FOR THE ONE UNIT.
PART OF THE FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOW-E GLASS, ENERGY EFFICIENT APPLIANCES, WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY MATERIALS, AS WELL AS SILVER LEVEL CERTIFICATION THROUGH FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION.
IN CONCLUSION, WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THE APPLICABLE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF.
STAFF HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE TO WORK WITH.
I HAVE VERY PLEASANT EXPERIENCE, AS WELL AS MY LAST MEETING LAST MONTH, WITH PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. THEY WERE GREAT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO DEVELOPING IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER THIS PROJECT.
I JUST HAVE SOME ELEVATIONS AND PICTURES TO FOLLOW UP.
YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THAT ADDITIONAL STORAGES.
THAT'S THE GARAGE, AND THEN A JOGS IN ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE FEET IN FOR STORAGE.
THE ARCHITECT REPRESENTED A CAR AS WELL AS TRASH BINS AND A WATER HEATER.
THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR WITH ALL THREE BEDROOMS UPSTAIRS AND TWO BATHROOMS. THESE ARE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS.
I HAVE SOME COMPUTER-GENERATED RENDERINGS TOWARDS THE END.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE COLOR PLATES HERE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
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A LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR REFERENCE, AS WELL AS SOME RENDERINGS HERE.THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL.
FOR THE RECORD, PETER MEYERS, SENIOR PLANNER AND STAFF.
LET ME JUST PULL UP MY PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICATION FOR CONSIDERATION BY TOWN COUNCIL IS A SMALL-SCALE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REQUEST, INCLUDING A DENSITY INCREASE BY A TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, 61 UNIT TOTAL, AND A SITE PLAN TO CONSTRUCT THREE OR FIVE TOWNHOME UNITS.
THE REQUEST FOLLOWS THE TOWN'S ESTABLISHED INCENTIVES SETS FORTH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING CODE TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, DEVELOPMENTS ON A SINGLE LOT THAT IS 2.93 ACRES.
THE APP IS REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE DENSITY FROM 6-11.9 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, THROUGH THE USE OF TWO TYPES OF DENSITY BONUSES.
TRADITIONAL DENSITY IS PERMITTED THROUGH THE INCENTIVES ESTABLISHED AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES ADOPTED IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND HOUSING ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH PROVIDES FOR DENSITY BONUSES INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THE PROPERTY HAS A RESIDENTIAL, HIGH-DENSITY LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND R3 ZONING, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A BASE DENSITY OF SIX UNITS PER ACRE.
BASED ON THE ACREAGE OF THE SITE, A TOTAL OF 18 UNITS ARE PERMITTED.
THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED A TWO-UNIT-PER-ACRE INCREASE IN DENSITY AS PART OF THE SMALL-SCALE PUD.
THIS WILL ADD A TOTAL OF SIX UNITS PER SITE.
THE APP IS ALSO REQUESTING THEIR WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS, WHICH IS 65% OF THE BASE TNC PERMITTED BY THE LAND USE DESIGNATION, CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING CODE INCENTIVES, THIS WILL ADD 11 UNITS TO THE SITE.
A TOTAL OF 17 UNITS WILL BE ADDED THROUGH THE DENSITY OF BONUSES.
THE APPLICANTS PROPOSING A DENSITY OF 11.94 ACRES UNITS PER ACRE.
I PREPARED AN AERIAL HERE THAT'S SHOWING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN SEE HERE 550 BUSH ROAD AND YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT OF LAUREL OAKS AND THE SOUTH TIMBER WALK.
STILL GETTING THE IDEA OF HOW THIS FITS IN.
I'LL ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN SEE.
JUST NOTING THAT TO THE SOUTH, LAUREL OAKS HAS A DENSITY OF 10.15 UNITS PER ACRE AND THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THEN ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN.
THIS IS A LITTLE SLOW TO LOAD, BUT IT WILL APPEAR IN A FEW MINUTES.
THE EPISODE REQUESTS ANY WAIVERS TO THE ZONING CODE AS PART OF SMALL-SCALE PUD.
THE APP IS PROPOSING TWO OF THE SIX, IDENTIFY PUBLIC BENEFITS LISTED IN THE ZONING CODE FOR SMALL-SCALE PUD, THE CODE REQUIRES AT LEAST ONE.
THE FIRST PUBLIC BENEFIT IS A GREEN BUILDING, THE APP IS PROPOSING TO ACHIEVE SEVERAL LEVELS OF CERTIFICATION WITH THE FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION AS REQUIRED BY CODE.
THIS IS THE THIRD PROJECT IN A TOWN TO UTILIZE A GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM.
THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS SUCCESSFULLY RECEIVED CERTIFICATION.
THE INTENT OF THE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAMS THAT ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABLE CONSTRUCTION, WATER EFFICIENCY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS SELECTIONS, AND IMPROVE INDOOR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.
REDEVELOPMENT INFILL PROJECTS.
STAFF HAS RECOMMENDATIONS TO PRIORITIZE AND ADD SUFFOCATION POINTS WHICH INCLUDE NOT PROPOSING TURF AND DENSELY SHADED AREAS, REPLANT OR DONATE, REMOVE VEGETATION, PRESERVE, OR CREATE WILDLIFE HABITAT.
WE USE CLEAR MATERIAL FOR MULCH OR LANDSCAPE.
THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES A SUMMIT OVER IRREVOCABLE LETTER OF CREDIT EQUALING TO A MINIMUM OF 5% OF THE TOTAL ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF THE PROJECT AS REQUIRED BY THE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM TO ENSURE THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS ARE SATISFIED.
IN ADDITION, WITHIN 12 MONTHS FROM THE RECEDED LAST CO CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCY,
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THE OWNER MUST SUBMIT THE SILVER-LEVEL CERTIFICATION FROM THE FLORIDA BLUE GREEN BUILDING COALITION.THE SECOND PUBLIC BENEFIT IS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
IN ADDITION TO THE FOUR WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS REQUIRED PRUDENCE INCENTIVE PROGRAM, THE APP GETS PROPOSING ONE ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE HOUSING UNIT AT A PUBLIC BENEFIT.
A TOTAL OF FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING ARE PROPOSED, ONE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS TO MEET THE TOWN'S INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT, THREE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS FOR THE DENSITY INCREASES REQUIRED PROTONS INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
THE UPPER PROSE IS ONE ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE HOUSING AS AN ADEQUATE BENEFIT.
IN ORDER TO ASSURE THE FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS ARE PROPERLY MEASURED AND AVAILABLE TO THE CORRESPONDING INCOME LEVEL ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS APPROVAL RELATED TO REQUIRE COVENANTS, ADMINISTRATION, AND ENFORCEMENT OF MAINTAINING WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.
I JUST WANTED TO ALSO NOTE IN THE RESOLUTION, THERE WAS A LITTLE TYPO IN SECTION 3 ON PAGE C OF THE RESOLUTION.
IT INDICATED THEIR DEVELOPMENT HAD FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS AT THE MODERATE LEVEL. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE BEFORE AT THE LOW LEVEL AND ONE AT THE MODERATE LEVEL.
NEXT IS REGARDLESS WHEN TRAFFIC BECAUSE COMMUNITY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT EXISTING TRAJECTION AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE BUSH ROAD AT 20 PEN DRIVE.
ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2022, THE TOWN RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITH CONCERNS REGARDING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON BUSH ROAD.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS RAISED IN THE LETTER WAS REGARDING THE SOUTHBOUND VEHICLES BACKING UP AND BLOCKING INGRESS, EGRESS, AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
TIME HAS ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED THE NEED FOR IMPROVEMENT AT THIS LOCATION.
ACCORDING TO THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THIS APPROVE IT WILL REDUCE THE DELAY ON BUSH ROADS AND IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM AN FTC LEVEL OF SERVICE DURING PEAK HOURS.
NSF REPORTS IT WAS DEDICATED AT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY AND AT THE TIMELINE FOR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, IT COULD BE MOVED UP ONE YEAR IF THE TOWN COUNCIL DESIRES.
HOWEVER, UPON FURTHER EVALUATION BY THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS, IN ORDER TO MOVE THE BUSH ROAD PROJECT TO 2024, THEN OTHER PARTS MIGHT EITHER REMOVED OR DELAYED.
IN ADDITION TO THE DESIGN, THE RISK COULD BE DONE INTERNALLY, SO IT MIGHT HIRE SOMEBODY TO SIT, SO THERE WAS NOT RECOMMENDED TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD.
BUT ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO START REQUESTING THE FIRST CEO PROBABLY AROUND AUGUST 2024, AND THE FISCAL YEAR FOR 2025 STARTS ON OCTOBER 2024, WHICH WILL COINCIDE WITH THIS PROJECT BEING CERTAIN COS AND THE INTERSECTION BEEN IMPROVED.
ANOTHER CONCERN THAT IS RAISED IS WHAT RELATES TO THIS SEMI-TRACTOR TRAILER TRAVELING SOUTH ON BUSH ROADS.
THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS EVALUATING RESTRICTING TRACTOR-TRAILER TRAFFIC ON BUSH ROADS, SOUTH OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT FRONT THE INTERNAL ROAD.
THEN THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE SOME RELATED TO TRAFFIC.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SMALL-SCALE PUD TO REQUEST A TWO UNIT PER ACRE INCREASE IN DENSITY AND A SITE PLAN APPLICATION TO CONSTRUCT 35 MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS AND TO REQUESTS A WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, OUTLINE, AND RESOLUTION.
I JUST ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE PLANS ON COMMISSION AT THEIR JANUARY 10TH MEETING, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION WITH TWO CONDITIONS.
WE'RE ALMOST AT A STOP SIGN AT THE ENTRY POINT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND TO ACQUIRE A SCIENCE PLAN.
DEFINITELY TO PROVIDE A SCIENCE PLAN THAT PROVIDES A SCIENCE PLAN, BUT THIS JUST SHOWS A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGN INSTEAD OF THE STOP SIGN AS RECOMMENDED BY A TOWN ENGINEER.
IN LIKE I SAID, THERE MAY BE RETURNED FOR ANY REBUTTAL.
>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO COUNCIL.
THIS IS THE TIME WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF.
I'LL START AT ONE END AND THEN MOVE TO THE OTHER. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE SEVERAL. WHERE TO BEGIN? FIRST QUESTION TO STAFF.
I WAS READING THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM THAT OUR TOWN HAS IN THE TOWN CODE AND THAT CODE, SECTION 273198,
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SAYS IN PART C2, IN ORDER TO BE GIVEN PRIORITY FOR A RENTAL UNIT, AT LEAST ONE ADULT MEMBER OF THE HOUSEHOLD SHALL BE EMPLOYED BY A BUSINESS LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWN.DOES THAT APPLY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT?
>> THANK YOU. REGARDING, STILL FOR STAFF WITH TRAFFIC, I HAD ASKED BECAUSE I NOTICED THIS LAST BULLET WITH THE 2025, IT COULD BE MOVED TO 2024 AND I HAD ASKED WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF THAT MIGHT BE.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THESE UNITS WOULD COME ONLINE AT AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE COMPLETE OR THERE'S A GAP? AUGUST TO OCTOBER.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THIS IS LOOKING LIKE AND THIS MAY ALSO GO TO THE APPLICANT AND WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS?
>> THE APPLICANT INDICATES THAT NIGHT THAT THE FIRST COS GOING TO BE REQUESTED APPROXIMATELY AROUND AUGUST 2024 AND THEN THE FISCAL YEAR FOR 2025 STARTS IN OCTOBER 2024.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE FISCAL YEAR, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY FOR THIS PROJECT, FOR THEM TO BE CLEAR, ALSO THOMAS FERNANDEZ, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.
ESSENTIALLY, THE WAY IT WAS CURRENTLY PLANNED IN THE CIP PROGRAM WAS TO HAVE A PRELIMINARY PORTION OF THE DESIGN AND SURVEY TO BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR.
START WORKING TOWARDS THE DESIGN FOR THE FUTURE PROJECTS.
THERE'S A LITTLE MORE WORK THAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR DESIGN FOR NEXT YEAR, DEALING WITH SOME OF THE STORMWATER AND OTHER UTILITIES WHICH ARE IN THE AREA BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME UTILITIES THAT DEAL WITH OUR TOWN PORTABLE WATER AND WELL WATER AS WELL.
ESSENTIALLY, THE WORK, IF IT WERE TO CONTINUE ON AS IT IS, THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE UNTIL, AS I HAD MENTIONED TO PETER EARLIER, WOULD BE OCTOBER 1ST OF 2024.
THAT WOULD BE WHEN THE FIRST OF 2025 FISCAL YEAR WOULD BEGIN.
>> THAT'S WHEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD BEGIN?
>> THAT WOULD BE THE EARLIEST IT COULD BEGIN.
WE COULD ALWAYS SET IT UP WHERE IT STARTS.
AS LONG AS THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE AHEAD OF TIME, WE COULD BID OUT THE WORK AHEAD OF THAT TIMELINE.
>> THEN WE'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS AND I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT A NUMBER OF ISSUES AND I JUST WANT TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON THE RECORD TO STAY WITH STAFF.
WHEN THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL UNIT THAT COMES INTO THE TOWN, PEOPLE OFTEN WONDER ABOUT NOT JUST CONCURRENCY WITH IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, BUT SCHOOLS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
HOW OFTEN DO YOU SPEAK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING CONCURRENCY AND SPACE AVAILABLE, THINGS LIKE THAT?
>> WE GIVE UPDATES TO SCHOOLS AND SEMI-ANNUALLY.
ALSO WHENEVER THERE'S A ZONING OR LAND USE CHANGE THAT WOULD GO TO THE SCHOOL FOR THEIR ANALYSIS.
AND IN SOME CASES THERE'S A FEE THAT WOULD GO WITH THAT.
BUT IF IT'S JUST A SITE PLAN, THEY'VE ALREADY CALCULATED THAT INTO THEIR GROWTH MODELS.
>> YOU ALSO GIVE NOTICE TO THE SCHOOLS OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE COMING UP OR IN THE PIPELINE?
>> STAFF, SORRY TO BOTHER ONE MORE TIME. ONE MORE QUESTION.
IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF ARTICLES THAT HAVE COME OUT ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT IN WELLINGTON.
IT WAS WITH RENTAL UNITS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH ENFORCING SOME OF THE PROVISIONS WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH THOSE UNITS.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AROUND WORKSHOP WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION JUST RECENTLY, JANUARY 31ST ACTUALLY.
THEY TALKED ABOUT SOME LESSONS LEARNED FROM IT.
ONE IS THAT THEY IDENTIFIED THAT IN ADDITION TO THE LEASE AND THE RENT THAT SOMEONE WOULD CHARGE, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL FEES THAT WOULD SHOW UP.
SO I'M ENCOURAGED BY SEEING SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS ADDED IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT OF OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM.
BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY LESSONS LEARNED? I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD AS MANY WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS COME INTO THE TOWN.
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I THINK ONLY THREE OR SO IN THE PAST DECADE.BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THAT AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS OR HOW DO WE MONITOR OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM MORE GENERALLY?
>> THERE'S A CERTAIN WAY IT HAS TO BE CALCULATED AND WE MONITOR EACH DEVELOPMENTS WORKFORCE HOUSING AND CALCULATIONS ON A ANNUAL BASIS.
THEN IF THERE IS RESONANCE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY THAT QUESTION, THE CALCULATIONS WE RUN THROUGH THEM AND CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE CORRECT.
THE INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS CAN CHARGE MORE FOR LIKE BALLET, GARBAGE OR PET FEES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE BASE FEE SHOULD BE THE SAME, SHOULD BE LESS FEE.
>> THEN ONE FOR THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY.
I SAW IN YOUR CHART THAT THE RENT FOR LOW INCOME WOULD BE 1,285 AND FOR MODERATE LOW-INCOME 1,740, ON PAGE 10 OF THE STAFF REPORT, THAT'S THE LOW END OF THE RANGE.
ARE YOU INTENDING TO KEEP THE RENT AT THAT LEVEL OR MOVE UP THROUGH THE RANGE OR HOW DO YOU APPROACH THAT?
>> I PLAN ON COMPLYING WITH THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PLAN.
THIS WAS BROUGHT UP LAST MEETING AND IT CAN'T JOG MY MEMORY RIGHT NOW.
I THINK STAFF CAN TOUCH ON THAT BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST MEETING, I DON'T KNOW IF THE 1,285 IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE RENT THAT CAN BE CHARGED TO SOMEBODY.
>> IF IT'S THE MINIMUM, THEN THAT'S THE RANGE, AND WE'LL CHARGE BETWEEN 1,235 AND 1,740.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD SIT OR.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT IF ANYTHING IS INCLUDED IN THE RENTS, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS, AND THE MARKET VALUES?
>> I WANT TO EXTINGUISH MOST, MAYBE HELP ANSWER SOME OF THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS AND THE MARKET RATE UNITS WILL NOT HAVE ANY DIFFERENT FINISHES.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DEFER, WHAT'S A WORKFORCE HOUSING UNIT AND WHAT'S A MARKET RATE UNITS.
THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE THE SAME. ALL 35 ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME FINISHES THROUGHOUT.
ALL 35 ARE GOING TO BE TREATED THE SAME.
REGARDING USER FEES, [OVERLAPPING] TENANTS WILL PAY WATER AND ELECTRIC AND INTERNET, WHICH IS COMMON.
THE LANDLORD WILL PAY THE INSURANCE, LANDSCAPE, AND PEST CONTROL.
>> I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING AT THIS DETAIL QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE GARAGE DOOR AND THE SIDEWALK? CAN THAT ACCOMMODATE A LARGE SUV, LARGE PICKUP TRUCK?
>> THE DRIVEWAY? GARAGE DOOR, AND SIDEWALK?
I KNOW IT'S MORE THAN 18 FEET.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE A LOOK [OVERLAPPING]
>> I COULD PULL UP THE SITE PLAN RIGHT NOW.
IT'S A NINE FOOT WIDE BY 20 FOOT LONG DRIVEWAY.
THE SHORTEST SPACE, WHICH ARE THE GUESTS' SPACES, ARE 17 FEET LONG, THOSE ARE THE GUEST SPACES.
>> THAT'S A STANDARD PARKING SPACE OFF THE STREET, [OVERLAPPING] BUT THE DRIVEWAY THEMSELVES ARE 20 FEET LONG.
>> BUT OBVIOUSLY PEDESTRIANS COMING OUT ON THE SIDEWALK, THEY HAVE TO WALK AROUND A LARGE 23, 24 FOOT EXTENDED PICKUP TRUCK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IS GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO VEHICLES, THE THREE BEDROOMS, AND THIS PARKING ALWAYS A CONCERN WITH US, JUST MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE SECOND VEHICLE.
YOU'RE GOING TO MONITOR THE STORAGE INSIDE THE GARAGE, YOU CAN'T PARK IN THE GARAGE.
>> YES, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS TOO ON OUR LEASES.
OUR LEASE CAN SOMETIMES BE 12 TO 15 PAGES.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF RESTRICTIONS REGARDING STORAGE.
YOU CAN'T USE THE GARAGE FOR STORAGE.
YOU ONLY HAVE TO USE YOUR GARAGE FOR PARKING, AND WITH THE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL STORAGE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SHELVING, THEY CAN USE THAT FOR STORAGE, OBVIOUSLY.
ALSO, BOATS AND RVS, THEY CAN'T BE PARKED IN THOSE DRIVEWAYS, SO IF SOMEONE HAS A LARGE PICKUP TRUCK, IT WILL FIT IN A 20-FOOT LONG DRIVEWAY,
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BUT THEN AN RV OR A BOAT, IT WON'T.WE HAVE THOSE TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS.
>> WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF THE GARAGE AND PARKING, HOW TALL IS THE OPENING FOR THE GARAGE DOOR?
>> THE GARAGE DOOR, A STANDARD DOOR HEIGHT IS EIGHT TO NINE FEET HIGH.
>> OKAY. JUST WONDERING BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE LARGER VEHICLE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT IT UNDER THE STANDARD HEIGHT, SO THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY IS IMPORTANT.
>> CAN YOU CLARIFY, FROM THE DRAWING, YOU SAID A STANDARD GARAGE IS EIGHT TO NINE FEET HIGH, I THINK SHE WAS REFERRING TO GARAGE DOOR OPENING, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM CONSTRAINING DIMENSION.
WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE GARAGE DOOR?
>> IT'S A NINE O DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE, BUT AN EIGHT O HIGH DOOR WORKS ALL DAY FOR SUVS OR PICKUP TRUCKS.
>> JUST STAYING ON THAT TOPIC, YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW RENTAL UNITS, SO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE.
HOW PRACTICAL IS IT TO ENFORCE NO PARKING IN THE GARAGES? WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE ON THAT?
>> IT'S VERY PRACTICAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE A LEASING OFFICE INSIDE, IT MAKES IT EVEN EASIER.
WE LIKE TO ALSO DO QUARTERLY INSPECTIONS IN THOSE UNITS, SOMETIMES.
WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE REPLACING THEIR AC FILTERS BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR APPLIANCES.
WHEN RESIDENTS LEAVE, THEY LEAVE THOSE APPLIANCES WITH AND THEY TAKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR APPLIANCES ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
WE DO INSPECTIONS OF THE UNITS AND PART OF THAT INSPECTION IS LOOKING AT THE GARAGE AND SEEING WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THEY'RE USING.
>> WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH HAVING TO DO ENFORCEMENT?
>> IT'S ENFORCED THROUGH THEIR LEASE, AND IF THEY VIOLATE THEIR LEASE, THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE LEASE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
>> WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF ENFORCEMENT?
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
>> OKAY. I'M USUALLY THE LAST ONE HOME AT NIGHT, AND I GOT TO ROLL THE GARBAGE CAN OUT DUTY.
JUST DESCRIBE TO ME HOW WHEN I GET HOME AT NIGHT, I WOULD TAKE THE GARAGE CAN, WHERE IS IT AND HOW WOULD I GET IT TO THE CAB? [OVERLAPPING]
>>THESE ARE ALL HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS.
>> NO IT'S NOT HYPOTHETICAL, IT HAPPENS TWICE A WEEK.
[LAUGHTER] [NOISE] IT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE.
>> YES, IT COULD BE IN THE BACK OF THE GARAGE TOO, YOU CAN PULL YOUR CAR UP.
>> YEAH, PLEASE DO BECAUSE I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRACTICALITY OF THAT, BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE TO PULL THE CAR OUT TO GET THE GARBAGE CAN OUT.
THAT MEANS I CAN'T OWN A SPACE.
I GOT TO FIRST PULL THE CAR OUT, LEAVE MY SCORE I GUESS IN SLEEP, PULL THE CAR OUT, TO GET THE GARBAGE CAN OUT TWICE A WEEK.
>> THIS IS THE GARAGE, AND I PURPOSELY WANTED TO DO THIS ILLUSTRATION.
I DID HAVE MY ARCHITECT PUT IN A CAR.
HE DIDN'T PUT IN A CAR IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND I KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO COME UP.
THIS ISN'T MY FIRST MEETING WITH TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS.
TOWNHOUSE LIVING, IT'S NOT A CUSTOM HOME, IT'S TOWNHOUSE LIVING.
IT'S BETTER THAN APARTMENT LIVING, IN MY OPINION, BUT IT'S NOT A CUSTOM HOUSE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE GARAGE IS 23 FEET LONG, AND IT'S 10 FEET, 6 INCHES WIDE.
YOU CAN SEE, REGARDING THE WIDTH OF THE ACTUAL DOOR, THE OUTLINE OF THE GARAGE DOOR.
YOU HAVE ONE FOOT ON EACH SIDE OF A BLOCK.
THE ARCHITECT DOES SHOW AN EIGHT-FEET WIDE DOOR, AND I BELIEVE IT'S AN EIGHT-FOOT TALL DOOR.
EIGHT FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT, 8 BY 8.
YOU CAN SEE THE CARS HERE, AND I PLACED THE TRASH BIN HERE.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S DIFFERENT-SIZED TRASH BINS, I LIVE IN A TOWN HOUSE MYSELF IN DELRAY BEACH, AND I HAVE A VERY SIMILAR GARAGE.
I DON'T HAVE STORAGE HERE, MY TRASH CAN GOES NEXT TO MY CAR IN THIS CORNER.
SINCE YOU HAVE A ONE-FEET SPACE HERE, YOU CAN PUT YOUR GARBAGE CAN BEHIND YOUR CAR ON THE SIDE. YOU CAN SEE.
THE PRACTICALITY OF THE GARBAGE CAN REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE IN A TOWN IS NOT PRACTICAL.
PUT IT ON THE SIDE, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WIDTH.
>> WELL, IN SOME OF THOSE CASES THEY HAVE SMALL TRASH CAN, SO I DO HAVE THE WIDTH.
>> OKAY. THIS IS THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
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>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC NOW.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STUFF.
>> TIME ENGINEER. [NOISE] I KNOW THIS APPLICATION ISN'T HINGING ON THIS, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, GO A LITTLE DETAIL ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN CIP FOR BUSH ROAD IN THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN PENNA.
>> I WILL FLIP TO MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANYTHING BECAUSE ACTUALLY THIS IS ALSO COVERED IN THE PRESENTATION LATER TONIGHT.
ESSENTIALLY AT THAT LOCATION, IT WILL INSTALL AN EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE, BASICALLY A STORAGE LANE FOR ANYONE ON TONY BENNETT DRIVE, TURNING NORTH ONTO BUSH ROAD.
IT ALSO INSTALLS A RECEIVING LANE FOR ANYBODY WHO WOULD BE TURNING FROM BUSH ROAD.
ESSENTIALLY, IT WOULD GIVE SOMEONE THE ABILITY TO, IF THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO TURN EASTBOUND ON TO TONY BENNETT DRIVE, TO TURN OUT AND WAIT UNTIL THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL OUT INTO TRAFFIC.
ESSENTIALLY, THERE WILL ALSO BE A BYPASS [NOISE] THROUGH LANE FOR ANY EASTBOUND TRAFFIC ON TONY BENNETT DRIVE.
THE OTHER ITEMS FOR THIS [NOISE] IS ON BUSH ROAD ITSELF.
IT WILL INSTALL AN EXCLUSIVE LEFT TURN LANE, AND IT ALSO WIDENS THE PAVEMENT BECAUSE OF THAT.
IT ALSO ADDS A EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS ALONG TONY BENNETT DRIVE.
>> THERE'S ONE QUICK QUESTION JUST REGARDING THE BUSH ROAD, AS FAR AS THE FUNDING GOES.
IS IT POSSIBLE IF THERE WERE TO BE A GAP IN THE FUNDING, IF WE WANTED TO MOVE IT UP, WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FLOAT IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY BACK TO THE CIP.
SOMETHING MAYBE LOOK INTO, SO THAT THERE'S NO GAP IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.
>> COUNSEL, WE WILL BE PAYING REALLY CLOSE ATTENTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT AND THE ROADWORK COORDINATES TOGETHER.
>> BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE PROJECT CO-ACTIVE [NOISE] RESIDENTS MOVING IN AND WE ADD TO THE COMPLICATIONS ALREADY ON BUSH ROAD.
>> WE'LL BE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT.
>> IF I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH A QUESTION THERE.
I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS NECESSARILY AFTER THIS APPROVAL OF HOW YOU'LL WORK.
SHOULD IT BE APPROVED WITH THE APPLICANT ON MANAGING THAT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? ARE THERE A SERIES OF MEETINGS AFTER THIS WORK BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE TOWN ON THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BUSH ROAD?
>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
>> JUST TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS THERE A PLAN, IN WRITING, THAT'S DRAFTED FOR HOW THIS WILL WORK, OR HOW THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION? I KNOW IN PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY TALKED ABOUT A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN, JUST WITH ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AROUND IT.
>> I THINK BASICALLY, A COUNSEL, IT WILL HAVE TO BE A REALLY COORDINATED EFFORT BETWEEN ENGINEERING, AND PLANNING, AND ZONING.
FORTUNATELY FOR US, THE BUSH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALREADY INTO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, AND ALREADY IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.
AS WE LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, IT'S SLATED IF EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH TO BECOME ACTIVE IN FY25, AS YOU HAVE HEARD, AND THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE SLATED FOR FY25.
REALLY THE BIGGEST PIECE IS TO KEEP ENGINEERING, AND PLANNING, AND ZONING MOVING TOGETHER ON THE SAME PAGE.
TYPICALLY WE'LL HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSH ROAD IMPROVEMENT IS REALLY NOT A HYPOTHETICAL, IT'S ALREADY IN THE PLAN.
>> WE JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IMPROVEMENT CONCURS WITH, IF THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED.
I THINK I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
>> AT THIS POINT, WE GO TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE.
EVERYONE IS LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES EACH AND IF WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY IS ALREADY SAID BY SOMEBODY BEFORE YOU, PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE WISHING TO SPEAK?
>> FIRST IS GOING TO BE JANE SNELL.
AFTER JANE IS GOING TO BE CHARLES COLLAZO.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JANE SNELL.
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I LIVE AT 343 LAUREL OAKS WAY.I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON 550 BUSH ROAD AND JUPITER'S APPROACH TO PRESERVING THE FEEL OF OUR TOWN.
IN 1981, I APPROACHED MAYOR MARY HINTON AND THE TOWN COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE USE OF AN OFFICE IN THE JUPITER LIGHTHOUSE COAST GUARD BARRACKS BUILDING TO ESTABLISH A JUPITER BRANCH OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.
THE TOWN COUNCIL RECOGNIZE RED CROSS SERVICES AND LIFE SAVINGS SKILLS WOULD IMPROVE THE LIVES OF MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, I TRAINED COACHES AT JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL AND CPR IN FIRST AID.
LATER I SERVED AS GERRY THOMAS'S HEALTH AID AND HELPED STUDENTS THROUGH ILLNESSES AND ACCIDENTS AND GAVE FIRST-DAY TALKS TO TRAIN OUR FUTURE RESIDENTS IN VITAL LIFE-SAVING SKILLS.
I ALSO TAUGHT THROUGH THE JUPITER HIGH-SCHOOL COMMUNITY ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAM.
FOR 43 YEARS, I HAVE LIVED IN JUPITER AND CONTINUALLY BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT IMPROVING LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
NOW, I AM ASKING THE TOWN COUNCIL ONCE AGAIN, TO CONSIDER THE RESIDENTS OF OUR BELOVED TOWN.
OUR MOTTO SHOULD NOT BE, IF THERE'S AN INCH OF EMPTY LAND, LET'S BUILD AND LET'S SQUEEZE IN AS MUCH AS WE ARE ALLOWED.
AS YOU'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER, JUPITER IS GETTING TOO CROWDED AND OVERDEVELOPED.
YOU CERTAINLY KNOW THERE'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL MAKE EVEN THIS SMALL SIDE STREET MORE CROWDED WITH CARS.
I UNDERSTAND DEVELOPMENT IS INEVITABLE, JUST HAVE IT BETTER FIT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, PLEASE.
FROM A LONG TIME JUPITER RESIDENT, I AM ASKING THAT YOU SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE SIZE OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
>> CHARLES COLLAZO, AND THEN IT'S KARINA LEONARD.
>> I'M CHARLES COLLAZO, 345 LAUREL LOS WAY.
I'VE LIVED IN JUPITER 23 YEARS.
THE MAIN PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS PLAN IS THE DENSITY OF THE BUILDINGS.
IN THE FOREST SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, THE DENSITY AVERAGE IS EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS DEVELOPMENT PUSHES THE ENVELOPE TO 12, THIS IS TOO MUCH.
THERE'S NO APPRECIABLE GREEN SPACE, IT'S MOSTLY BUILDINGS AND PAVEMENT.
I VOICE MY CONCERNS TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO NO AVAIL.
IT WAS ONLY 12, THE SPEC ALLOWS 15 AND 3-STOREY BUILDINGS.
THERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM, THE CLASSIFICATION OF FUTURE HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
IT PROVIDES COVER TO MAKE BAD DESIGN DECISIONS.
WHERE'S THE DEMAND FOR THIS DENSITY? NOT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
YOU'LL NEVER HEAR A RESIDENT COME UP TO YOU AND SAY, IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU COULD CRAM MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS LOT, THAT'D BE AWESOME.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN AND YOU CAN TELL WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS DENSE DESIGN.
THE MAIN BENEFICIARY IS DEVELOPERS WHOSE MAIN GOAL IS PROFIT AND WHO ASSIGNED LESS IMPORTANCE TO THE EFFECT ON THE COMMUNITY.
ON THE MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE THESE HDR AREAS ARE LOCATED, IT WAS UNSURPRISING TO SEE THAT MOST WERE IN LESS AFFLUENT COMMUNITIES.
I ASKED SOMEONE AT THE PLANNING BOARD IF THERE WAS A DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS THE DENSITY OF VARIOUS COMMUNITIES, SO I COULD GET A REFERENCE. THEY DIDN'T KNOW OF ONE.
I'M BEING TOLD THAT A DENSITY OF 15 IS ACCEPTABLE, BUT I WONDER IF ANYONE HAS SEEN EXAMPLES OF IT IN THIS TOWN, ESPECIALLY 3-STOREY BUILDINGS.
WHAT'S THE GOAL HERE? IS IT TURNING JUPITER INTO A CITY? WE WANT TO LIVE IN A TOWN, NOT A CITY.
BUT THE TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE ON WILL RESULT IN A LOSS OF WHAT HAS MADE JUPITER A NICE TOWN TO LIVE IN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS AS ITS GOAL, ''ENSURE THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PATTERN MAINTAINS THE EXISTING LOW-INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.'' A DESIGN OF 15 AND 3-STOREY BUILDINGS DOES NOT HONOR THAT GOAL.
HDR IS MORE LIKE COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL AND HAS NO PLACE IN CLASSIC RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NEEDS TO BE REVISED TO REFLECT THE GOAL.
THE MAXIMUM DENSITY SHOULD BE AN AVERAGE OF EIGHT AND 10 MAXIMUM WITH NO 3-STOREY BUILDINGS.
I LEAVE YOU WITH A QUESTION: IF OUR TRAFFIC, WHICH GETS WORSE BY THE DAY IS BAD WITH STANDARD LEVELS OF DENSITY, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GO TO HIGH LEVELS OF DENSITY? IT'S LIKE SPEEDING DOWN THE ROAD TOWARDS A CLIFF AND HITTING THE GAS TO GET THERE FASTER.
WHY DO YOU WANT TO GET THERE FASTER?
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THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]>> KARINA, AFTER KARINA, IT'S RAY LUCERO.
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS KARINA LEONARD.
I LIVE AT 123 LAKESIDE CIRCLE.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CROWDED ROAD THAT'S GOING TO BE HIGH DENSITY LOCATION WOULD CAUSE.
THE COMPARISON THAT HE SHOWED ON THE SCREEN SHOWED THAT COMPARED TO CHASE WOOD.
CHASE WOOD DUMPS ONTO CENTRAL BOULEVARD NOT BUSH ROAD, BUSH ROAD IS MUCH SMALLER THAN CENTRAL OBVIOUSLY.
COMPARING THOSE TWO IS NOT A FAIR COMPARISON BECAUSE CHASE WOOD HAS TWO EXITS, NOT ONE, AND BOTH OF THEM DUMP ONTO CENTRAL.
THEY REALLY SHOULD COMPARE TO THE ONES THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, THE ONES HE POINTED OUT, LAUREL SOMETHING, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS OUR POINT OR LAUREL OAKS AND OUR POINT, THOSE ARE BUT MUCH MORE COMPARABLE AND IT MAKES MORE SENSE.
THERE'S A SENIOR CENTER CALLED ATRIA AT ST. JOSEPH ON THE SAME ROAD.
SENIORS LIVE THERE, FRAGILE SENIORS THAT NEED ACCESS TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
I DON'T THINK YOU'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION HOW BUSY THAT ROAD WILL BE WHEN SOMEONE'S HAVING A STROKE, WHEN SOMEONE NEEDS CARE IMMEDIATELY.
MY NIECE WORKS AT THAT FACILITY, SHE SEES AND CARES ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
IF YOU WALK INTO THAT FACILITY, YOU'D UNDERSTAND THEY NEED EMERGENCY SERVICES QUICKLY AND YOU'RE DESCRIBING CROWDING UP BUSH ROAD WITH HIGHER DENSITY TO PREVENT THAT.
THE THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK IN THEIR GARAGES AND FLORIDA IS RIDICULOUS.
[LAUGHTER] NOBODY USES THEIR GARAGES HERE, IT'S TOO HOT.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE CARBON MONOXIDE BEING DISCUSSED.
THIS IS A WHOLE TOWNHOUSE AND SOMEONE'S GOING TO PARK IN THERE AND THEY DON'T KNOW TO LEAVE THEIR AIR CONDITIONING OFF BECAUSE WE TURN IT ON FOR AIR CONDITIONING NOT TO STAY WARM IN THE WINTER.
NO ONE WANTS TO PARK IN OUR LITTLE GARAGE WITH A ONE-FOOT GARBAGE CAN AND HOPE THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK OUT FOR US.
OH, SURE, THEY'LL ENFORCE IT, THEY WILL NOT ENFORCE IT.
IF YOU HAVE THREE BEDROOMS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE CARS.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARKING ALL UP AND DOWN BUSH ROAD, THE PARKING AND ALL THE AREAS AROUND.
[APPLAUSE] I STRONGLY ADVISE, PLEASE MAKE IT SMALLER, MAKE IT MUCH SMALLER, AND OWNERSHIP WOULD BE BETTER THAN MENTAL.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS RAY LUCERO.
I LIVE AT 318 OAK LEAF TERRACE, RIGHT NEXT DOOR SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION.
ARISING OPPOSITION TO THIS HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX FOR APPROVAL AT 550 BUSH ROAD.
I LIVE IN LAUREL OAKS AND OWNER-OCCUPIED DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPOSED APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AS OWNERS, WE TRIED TO KEEP OUR SMALL STREETS CLEAR IN THE EVENT WE NEED AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE ON OUR STREET IS DIFFICULT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING NEAR THE CURVES ON OUR ROADS, WHICH MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO MAKE IT THROUGH OUR MAIN ROAD, LAUREL OAKS WAY.
THE PROPOSED HIGH-DENSITY APARTMENTS, AT 12 UNITS PER ACRE, WILL HAVE A TIGHTER CURVE IN A HIGHER DENSITY, SMALLER SPACE OF 50% HIGHER DENSITY OCCUPANCY IN A SMALLER SPACE MAY NOT LOOK MUCH DIFFERENT ON PAPER, BUT A SCALED CUT OUT OF A FIRE TRUCK WOULD SHOW YOU THE PROBLEM.
I'M SURE YOU'D BEGIN TO REALIZE THAT PUTTING 35 RENTING FAMILIES AND 70 MORE VEHICLES ON BUSH ROAD IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
TO ADD TO THE TIGHT STREETS AS THE PROBLEM ENTERING THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE COMMUNITY ACROSS BUSH ROAD IS TIMBERWALK.
IT HAS ACCESS BARRIERS ON BUSH ROAD MAKE DELIVERY VEHICLES GO AROUND TO TONY BENNETT DRIVE.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT CAUSING A PROBLEM DIRECTLY TO CROSS FROM TIMBERWALK WHERE THIS WAS TRYING TO BE AVOIDED.
BETWEEN 4:00 PM AND 6:00 PM TRAFFIC ON BUSH ROAD BACKS UP, BLOCKING BOTH ENTRANCES TO MY STREET.
WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES TO OUR LOCK WAVE, AND THE TRAFFIC WILL BACKUP COVERING BOTH OF THOSE ENTRANCES.
THAT'S BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC GOING UP CENTER.
THE INDIANTOWN IS ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS AWAY, IS HEAVY ENOUGH TO BACK TONEY PENNA ALL THE WAY BACK TO BUSH.
AND OFTEN AS FAR AS MAPLE WOOD.
TRAFFIC ON BUSH BACKS UP TWO TO THREE BLOCKS SO INDIANTOWN, SOMETIMES FARTHER CREATING A STANDSTILL AT THREE OF THE FOUR INTERSECTIONS.
DOERS THAT SOUND LIKE GRIDLOCK? ADD 70 MORE VEHICLES AND WE WILL HAVE COMPLETE GRIDLOCK.
I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO ADD WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT BUSH ROAD IS NOT A GOOD CHOICE BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY AT A HIGH DENSITY.
IT MAY LOOK LIKE APARTMENTS WOULD BE A GOOD FIT, BUT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN OWNER-OCCUPIED AND RENTALS WHERE RESIDENTS HAVE NO STAKE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU WILL PUT US ON DOWNWARD SPIRAL WITH OWNERS MOVING AWAY FOR BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE,
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EITHER WAY INDIANTOWN AND CENTER STREET ARE AT MAX CAPACITY.I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO FURTHER INCREASE OUR DENSITY UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE THIS MEETING DEVELOPED WITH PEOPLE ASKING WHAT YOU WERE THINKING.
IF YOU CONSIDER ANYTHING, LET IT BE OWNER-OCCUPIED AT A LESSER DENSITY AND TWO ENTRY EXITS TO MATCH EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND IT.
THAT'S WHY THE CURRENT DENSITY WORKS WITHOUT AFFECTING QUALITY OF LIFE AROUND US.
>> NEXT IS LISA MASTERS, AFTER LISA, IT'S MARLENE AVANTE CORSO.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF JUPITER FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS AND HOMEOWNER IN JUPITER VILLAGE FOR 15.
I'M HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY CONCERN ABOUT THE RESOLUTION 523.
I FEEL THIS WOULD BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WITH ADDITIONAL EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC.
EVEN WITH THE BUSH ROAD IMPROVEMENT, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING MORE TRAFFIC THAT WASN'T ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.
I'M AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION AND HOPE THE MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL FEEL THE SAME WAY.
I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP THAT I WAS THINKING OF SOMETHING ELSE DURING THE MEETING.
WAS THAT REALLY ON BUSH ROAD THERE'S REALLY ONE WAY TO GET OUT, WHICH IS TONEY PENNA AND BUSH ROAD GOING TOWARDS INDIANTOWN ROAD, YOU CAN ONLY MAKE A RIDE WHERE YOU GO THROUGH PUBLICS.
SO AGAIN, IT'S MORE CONGESTION.
SO I WOULD HOPE YOU GUYS WILL RECONSIDER. THANK YOU.
>> I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS NOT TOO LONG AGO.
I THINK THAT PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE AND THE CITY OF JUPITER, ESPECIALLY A PROJECT LIKE THIS WOULD AFFECT THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.
I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY FROM OUR HOA FOR TIMBERWALK.
I EVEN HAD A HARD TIME FINDING THIS PLACE.
I'M LIKE, WHERE'S THIS MEETING? I HAD NO IDEA WHERE I WAS GOING.
THAT WOULD BE A GREAT HELP AND YOU'D HAVE A LARGER CROWD, AND I ASSURE YOU THAT MOST OF THE RESIDENTS AT TIMBERWALK FEEL THE WAY THAT I DO.
I'M ALWAYS STUCK ON THIS ROAD ON BUSH ROAD WHEN I COME OUT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TIME OF THE DAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR SCHOOLS AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE GO INTO WORK AND ETC.
AND THEN YOU HAVE HOUSEWIVES GOING OUT, AND SHOPPING OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S ALWAYS CROWDED COMING IN AND OUT.
ANOTHER CONCERN OF MINE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY OF JUPITER HASN'T ADDRESSED THIS.
MY DAUGHTER WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AT JUPITER AND I CAN REMEMBER DROPPING HER OFF WHAT A NIGHTMARE IT WAS.
THEN FINALLY WHEN SHE GOT TO DRIVE US, THANK GOD, BUT THERE WAS NO WHERE TO PARK AND SHE WOULD TELL ME THESE HORROR STORIES ABOUT HOW OVERCROWDED IT WAS.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOW, IF YOU DO THIS DEVELOPMENT? THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE SHORES, THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN BY THE WATER AND FUTURE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE SCHOOLS TO SUPPORT THIS.
HAS ANYBODY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? ALL THE PARENTS TALK ABOUT JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL, HOW BAD IT WAS ME AND MY KIDS OUT.
NOW, SHE'S GRADUATED FROM STETSON BUT, IT WAS A MAJOR PROBLEM TRYING TO GET HER TO SCHOOL AND FOR HER AND THE KIDS WITH THE PARKING TICKETS.
INCREDIBLE. THEY GO ANYWHERE TO FIND A PARKING SPOT.
IT HAD THESE TICKETS, THE PARENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST ONE THING.
BUT WHY BUSH ROAD AND WHY THIS LITTLE PIECE OF LAND? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE WHERE THIS COMPANY CAN GO AND FIND AND BUILD 35 UNITS.
AS FAR AS THE GARAGES GO, WE HAVE PROBLEMS AT TIMBERWALK AND WE'RE OWNERS.
I GUARANTEE YOU WHATEVER THEY'RE TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, IT ISN'T GOING TO WORK.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND IT'S GOING TO BE FAR WORSE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE IT'S ALL BEEN SAID WE'RE ALL OPPOSING.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY HERE THAT'S FOR IT.
WE'RE YOUR RESIDENTS AND THE MAYOR SAID, WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE LIKE DEL REY.
WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE LIKE BOCA.
WE HAVE A DIFFERENT FEEL IN THIS TOWN.
>> LET ME GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND STAFF OR ANY REBUTTAL OR CLOSING ARGUMENT OR COMMENTS.
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DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING HE WISH TO SAY.>> I FIRST WANT TO START MY REBUTTAL WITH WHERE I'M FROM.
I KNOW A BIG BAD DEVELOPERS LOOK LIKE.
I'M NOT ONE. PALMETTO PARK ROAD IN MISER BOULEVARD.
IT'S A VERY POPULAR ROAD IN DOWNTOWN BOCA, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH IT.
IF THEY ARE, FEEL FREE TO GOOGLE MAP IT.
IT'S GOT 6, 10, 12 STORY HIGH DENSITY BUILDINGS BEING BUILT AROUND ONE STORY, RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL CENTERS.
THAT'S CRUNCHING UNITS AS MANY UNITS, I CAN ON A HALF-ACRE, QUARTER ACRE LOT AT TIMES.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO ADDRESS EACH POINT.
THE FIRST POINT IS HIGH DENSITY.
REGARDING GREEN SPACE I'M PROVIDING 45% GREEN SPACE.
THE MINIMUM IS 40% SO I EXCEED THOSE LIMITS.
IN MY PRESENTATION PROVIDED I EXCEED OTHER LIMITS TOO LIKE THE PARKING.
THE TOWNHOUSE UNITS I'M PROPOSING ARE NOT THREE-STORY, THEY'RE TWO-STORY UNITS.
THE DENSITY OF 11.9 [INAUDIBLE] ACRE IS NOT CONSIDERED VERY HIGH DENSITY.
IT'S VERY COMMON FOR TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE THAT DENSITY.
REGARDING THE GARAGES AND THE PARKING, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE TRASH BINS.
I DO HAVE A THREE-FOOT, SIX BY FIVE FOOT WIDE STORAGE AREA THAT IS STILL UP ON THE SCREEN, THAT IS WHERE THE TRASH BINS WE'LL GO.
I'M ALSO PROVIDING 25% MORE THAN THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, I'M PROVIDING 96 SPACES.
THE REQUIRED PARKING PER THE CALCULATION IN THE CODE IS 77.
REGARDING THREE CARS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC.
I UNDERSTAND ANY TOWN ROAD IS A BUSY ROAD.
I UNDERSTAND TONEY PENNA IS A BUSY ROAD.
I KNOW CENTRAL IS A BUSY ROAD.
I HAD TO LEAVE WITH AN EXTRA 30 MINUTE BUFFER JUST TO GET UP HERE FROM BALKAN, BECAUSE I KNOW THE TRAFFIC'S BAD.
I DROVE BEFORE THIS MEETING DOWN BUSH ROAD MYSELF.
IT WASN'T MY SECOND TIME, MULTIPLE TIMES I HAVE DRIVEN DOWN BUSH ROAD.
I'M THE ONE HERE SWORN UNDER OATH.
I'M NOT GOING TO QUESTION THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU UNDER OATH, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY TROUBLE DRIVING DOWN BUSH ROAD.
THE SPEED LIMIT ON BUSH ROAD IS 25 MILES AN HOUR.
IT'S CONSIDERED A NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD, THERE'S NO LIGHT OFF OF INDIANTOWN LIKE CENTRAL.
THERE'S A SPEED BUMP EVERY 500 FEET.
I COUNTED SIX THIS EVENING, SIX SPEED BUMPS I WENT OVER.
[BACKGROUND] THE SPLIT LIMIT IS IS 20 MILES AN HOUR, NOT 25 ON THE SPEED BUMPS.
IT'S A SLOW NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD.
I DO AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE STAFFING THAN SUGGESTED, THERE SHOULDN'T BE TRACTOR TRAILERS.
THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
BUT TO BEAR IT ON MY DEVELOPMENT IS NOT FAIR BECAUSE THIS PIECE OF LAND ISN'T JUST VACANT.
FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES, IT'S BEEN A CHURCH.
THE CHURCH HAS EVENTS NOT ONLY ON SUNDAY, CHURCHES HAVE EVENTS ON TUESDAY EVENINGS FOR TEENAGERS.
THEY HAVE EVENTS ON THURSDAYS, THEY HAVE EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WEEK SOMETIMES, AND THAT ITSELF PROVIDES TRAFFIC.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO FACTS AND CODE COMPLIANCE.
WHEN I WENT TO APPLY FOR DEVELOPMENT, I HAD TO GET A TPS LETTER FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
PALM BEACH COUNTY FOUND THAT I WILL NOT BE EXCEEDING BEYOND THE ALLOWABLE LIMIT OF
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20 PEAK HOUR DAILY TRIPS AND I HAVE A LETTER HERE.I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A COPY OF IT.
BUT IT READS JULY 19, 2022, BASED ON OUR REVIEW, THE TRAFFIC DIVISION HAS DETERMINED THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT GENERATES NO MORE THAN 20 PEAK HOUR TRIPS.
THEREFORE, THE PROJECT MEETS THE TPS OF PALM BEACH COUNTY.
THAT WAS FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER OF PALM BEACH COUNTY.
I'M SORRY, I WAS PULLING UP HIS NAME [INAUDIBLE] KEITH, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER TRAFFIC DIVISION OF PALM BEACH COUNTY.
I DO WANT TO ADDRESS SCHOOL TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SCHOOL.
I DID GET A SCAD LETTER, SO PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOLS DID REVIEW THIS PROJECT AND THEY SAID THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY DETRIMENTAL EFFECT.
I'M SURE THAT SCHOOLS DO ARE BUSY AND THEY'RE ONLY GETTING BUSIER BUT THIS PROJECT IN ITSELF, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, DOES NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON SCHOOLS OR TRAFFIC ACCORDING TO PALM BEACH COUNTY.
SCAD SCHOOL CAPACITY AVAILABILITY DETERMINING LETTER.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S CONCERN IN THE PUBLIC.
I THINK THE APPLAUSES ARE BEAUTIFUL BUT I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO SOMETHING, A CHARACTERISTIC, NOT IN MY BACKYARD CHARACTERISTIC.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS BEHIND ME.
THIS IS NOT IN MY BACKYARD CHARACTERISTIC GENERALIZATION.
I CAME IN HERE WITH A CODE COMPLIANT PROJECT.
I'M HERE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PROJECT AND I THINK THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED ORGANICALLY.
AFTER THIS TOPIC, YOU GUYS HAVE AN ANNUAL TRAFFIC REPORT, I REVIEWED IT.
IT DOES TALK ABOUT CENTRAL, IT DOES TALK ABOUT A LIGHT SOUTH ON TONEY PENNA AND ADDITIONAL TURNING LANES OFF BUSH ROAD IN TONEY PENNA, SO THERE ARE PLANS TO FIX THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, THANK YOU.
>> WITH THAT, I WILL COME BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL TO BEGIN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND I WILL JUST ASK THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, THIS IS A TIME WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, DELIBERATE ABOUT THIS MATTER AND I PLEASE ASK EVERYBODY TO REFRAIN FROM REACTING TO WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE SAID UP HERE SO WE CAN TRULY HAVE DIALOGUE ABOUT IT, PLEASE.
WITH THAT, I'D ASK ANYBODY WHO WANT TO GET START FIRST? [BACKGROUND] I'LL GO FIRST ON THIS ONE.
PERSONALLY, I THINK BEFORE US, IT IS COUNSELS PREROGATIVE.
THIS THING, THIS PROPERTY, HAS HIGH DENSITY ZONING, WHICH ENTITLES IT TO SIX UNITS AN ACRE.
WE HAVE BEFORE US PROPOSED TO BOTH GRANT A SMALL-SCALE PUD APPROVAL WHICH PROVIDES TWO UNITS AN ACRE DENSITY BONUS, AND THEN SECONDLY, TO APPROVE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY INCREASE AS WELL.
CERTAINLY, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF GETTING WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I'M CONCERNED IN THIS PROJECT AND I REALIZE IT IS A SMALL PROJECT IN SIZE, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO FIT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH WORKFORCE HOUSING BENEFIT WHEN WE THINK THAT 30 OF THE 35 UNITS ARE GOING TO BE MARKET PRICED, APPLICANT EXPECTING TO GET 3,000-3,500 DOLLARS A MONTH FOR THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
I DO BELIEVE THERE'S PARKING SHORTCOMINGS.
I'M WELL FAMILIAR WITH THREE BEDROOM CONDO TYPE PROPERTIES.
I'D SAY NUMBER ONE, EVEN IF IT WAS FAMILY,
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FAMILIES ARE GOING TO NEED THE GARAGE.I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS THAT LIVE IN TWO DIFFERENT [INAUDIBLE] NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S COMMON, SO I CAN'T SIT HERE BELIEVING ANY WAY THAT THAT CAN BE ENFORCED.
I THINK IT GETS EVEN WORSE IF THEY'RE RENTAL UNITS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE MORE INCLINED TO BE SEVERAL PEOPLE SPLITTING THE RENT, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THREE-BEDROOM, NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT IN AN APARTMENT SITUATION, BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ENOUGH PARKING.
IT IS MY PREROGATIVE TO DECIDE WHETHER I WANT TO GRANT A SMALL SCALE PUD APPROVAL.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE DESIGN MEETS LEVEL OF STANDARD THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH SUPPORTING, SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE PROJECT.
I DO BELIEVE AS WE GO FORTH WITH THE CHANGE IN OUR GARBAGE PICKUP, I DO THINK THAT'S A REALITY THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.
THE BIGGER CANS THAT WE NOW HAVE, YOU CAN'T GET IT OUT THROUGH THE GARAGE SO THERE'S AN IMPRACTICALITY THAT ANY EVENT.
I'M ENTITLED TO MY OPINION, BUT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH PROVIDING THE SMALL-SCALE PUD APPROVAL DENSITY BONUS.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU. FROM THE FIRST TIME I STEPPED INTO THIS CHAMBER AS A RESIDENT TO WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, I HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED DENSITY BONUSES.
THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN QUITE CLEAR, THEY DID NOT WANT TO INCREASE DENSITY AND THE ONLY WAY TO NOT HAVE INCREASED DENSITY IS TO NOT APPROVE INCREASE DENSITY.
I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE ROAD.
THERE'S ALWAYS A REASON PRESENTED FOR THE INCREASED DENSITY THAT COULD SEEM APPEALING, MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS OR SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU STILL END UP WITH DENSITY THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT.
FOR ME, IT'S JUST A NON-STARTER TO HAVE PROJECTS THAT CONTINUE TO PUSH THINGS IN THE DIRECTION THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR THEY DON'T WANT.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN LEARNING THROUGH THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IN A WAY, BUSH ROAD IS A TOWN ROAD.
I KNOW IT'S LOCAL FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THERE, BUT SO MANY OF US USE IT.
I KNOW I USE IT FREQUENTLY WITH CHASEWOOD PLAZA AND WITH WALMART AND I STRUGGLE TO TURN LEFT ALL THE TIME.
WITH SCHOOL SCHEDULES TOO, I'VE GOT TO I PICK UP MY DAUGHTERS AT 2:00 AND THEN 3:00.
THEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING HOME FROM WORK.
I THINK THE NUMBER 1 COMPLAINT THAT WE GOT FROM RESIDENTS HAD TO DO WITH TRAFFIC.
WE DON'T LOOK AT MANY WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECTS, WE'VE ONLY LOOKED AT A FEW IN A DECADE AND THIS IS MY FIRST ONE.
THERE'S A LOT TO BE LEARNED WITH IT.
ONE THING I LEARNED WITH OUR CODE WHEN I WAS READING THE WORKFORCE HOUSING SECTION OF OUR CODE.
TOWARDS THE END IS THIS SECTION 27-3198.
IT SAYS, IN ORDER TO BE GIVEN PRIORITY FOR RENTAL UNIT, AT LEAST ONE ADULT MEMBER OF THE HOUSEHOLD SHALL BE EMPLOYED BY A BUSINESS LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWN.
I UNDERSTAND THE OWNERSHIP VERSUS RENTAL DIALOGUE HERE, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WERE GETTING.
ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT WE GOT EARLIER, OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS US TO REVIEW OUR CODE, TO SPEAK TO STAFF TO DO BETTER DUE DILIGENCE.
BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THAT INPUT FROM YOU GUYS AND WE'RE ALSO SEEING TRENDS OF WHAT'S GETTING THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF HITS? TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC IS, I SEE IT TOO, WE ALL SEE IT.
WITH TRAFFIC, THAT'S WHY WE WERE LOOKING AT WHY THESE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE TO HAPPEN AROUND THE TIME THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WERE TO COME IN.
IF THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ON BUSH ROAD WEREN'T PLANNED OR IN THE CIP, THIS WOULD BE DEAD ON ARRIVAL WITH ME.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A COMMUNITY.
IT'S A COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT JUST PARKING HOUSES EVERYWHERE.
CERTAINLY NO ONE ON THIS COUNCIL.
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BUT WE SEE IN OUR CITIZENS SURVEY IN 2021, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR GREEN SPACE AND THE GREAT RATINGS THAT WE GET FOR IT.THIS IS A SURVEY THAT GOES OUT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS, TO A NUMBER OF THEM IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY COME BACK TO US WITH WHAT THEY LIKE, WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE.
THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WE CHEER LEAD FOR AND WE GET GREAT MARKS ON, OUR PARKS, OUR GREEN SPACE.
BUT WE HAVE HAD A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING RECENTLY.
FROM 2019-2021, WE'VE SEEN A MUCH DECREASE IN TERMS OF CITIZEN OR RESIDENT SATISFACTION WITH THAT.
LAURA, I THINK I HAD ASKED FOR A SLIDE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
BECAUSE I WAS GETTING EMAILS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT AND AGAINST.
I SEE CITIZENS SURVEYS THAT POINT TOO.
IT'S HARD FOR US, IT'S ALMOST AN IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION BECAUSE WE WANT TO SUPPORT AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AND NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.
WE DO NOT WANT TO PARK HOUSES SOMEWHERE, WE WANT COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE SO HARD ON OUR ZONING, WHY WE HAVE THE CODE WE DO, AND WHY WE FOCUS ON ON THESE BUSH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN 2021 WHEN WE GOT OUR CITIZENS SURVEY BACK.
IT WENT OUT TO A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND THIS IS WHAT WE GOT BACK.
AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING DROPPED FROM 36 PERCENT TO 21 PERCENT, SLOWER THAN BENCHMARK.
IT DECLINED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THE PREVIOUS SURVEY AND IT'S RATED EXCELLENT OR GOOD BY TWO IN 10 RESIDENTS OF OUR TOWN.
THIS CODE, 27-3198 SAYS THAT, TO BE GIVEN PRIORITY FOR THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING, YOU'VE GOT TO BE EMPLOYED BY A BUSINESS LOCATED IN THE TOWN.
THESE ARE OUR NURSES, OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR TEACHERS.
THE BUSINESS HAS TO BE LOCATED IN THE TOWN.
ONE OF MY FIRST MEETINGS ON TOWN COUNCIL THERE WAS A NURSE WHO ACTUALLY HAD TO MOVE.
SHE USED TO WORKED FOR JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER AND SHE HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE ANYMORE.
SHE MOVED TO STUART AND SHE CALLED IT THE EXIT SURVEY WE DIDN'T ASK FOR.
IT TALKED ABOUT HOW HARD IT WAS FOR HER.
THEN EVEN THIS EVENING, WE GET THE PROCLAMATION FOR 211091988 AND THEY SAY IT'S THE NUMBER 1 THING WE GET CALLED ABOUT, IS HOUSING.
THE PANDEMIC HAS HAD A REALLY INTERESTING EFFECT IN THE MARKET.
ESPECIALLY, WE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT COMMUNITY, NOT JUST HOUSES.
WHAT MAKES THIS POSSIBLE FOR ME TO POTENTIALLY SUPPORT IS THE BUSH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
THE FACT THAT WITH RENTAL, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE EMPLOYMENT IN THE TOWN.
THESE ARE ALREADY PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW AND THERE'S OWNERSHIP.
IMAGINE A NURSE THAT WORKS IN THE TOWN, THAT LIVES IN THE TOWN OR A POLICE OFFICER.
I THINK THAT THAT GIVES A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH THE DENSITY AND FIT.
WE GET PROJECTS ALL THE TIME THAT ASKS FOR SO MANY WAIVERS AND SO MANY EXCEPTIONS.
THIS ONE MEETS OUR CODE AND YOU DON'T SEE THAT VERY OFTEN.
THIS IS WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH.
WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN AND WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT IN THE CODE, THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE THESE BUSH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS COMING BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THIS EVEN GETS A SECOND LOOK.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE FROM MY COUNSELORS, BUT WE HAVE A CHANGING CONDITIONS WHERE AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING IS AN ISSUE, ON OUR CITIZENS SURVEY.
THIS IS ONE WAY TO ADDRESS IT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTY AND IN THE TOWN, THEY TYPICALLY PAY A FEE, THEY DON'T BUILD IT, THEY'LL JUST PAY A FEE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTY EVEN STRUGGLING TO KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE MONEY THAT GOES THERE.
THESE ARE ACTUALLY BEING BUILT, WHICH IS PRETTY RARE.
WE DO HAVE A REALLY STRONG CODE.
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I THINK AT THE COUNTY, FIVE UNITS PER ACRE IS MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL.THEY HAVE EIGHT OR 12 UNITS MORE TYPICALLY.
THE JUPITER TOWN CODE IS MUCH STRICTER THAN THAT, OUR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL STARTS WITH THE SIX UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS IS WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY HARD FEW YEARS FOR THIS COUNCIL AND ALL COUNCILS BECAUSE WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
WHAT WE'RE HEARING, THESE ARE OUR RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS THAT ARE PROVIDING THESE RESPONSES THAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN.
THESE ARE RESIDENTS AS WELL AND EMAILS THAT WE GET AS WELL.
THERE IS THIS TUG OF WAR BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND GREEN SPACE, WHICH WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE HIGHEST STANDARDS FOR THAT THIS MEETS.
THIS MEETS OUR STANDARD BECAUSE IT MEETS OUR CODE AND MEETING THIS NEEDS SO THAT OUR WORKFORCE CAN STAY HERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE STRUGGLE BEFORE US.
THAT'S THE CHALLENGE BEFORE US.
I'M JUST SPEAKING HONESTLY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S THE START OF A CONVERSATION THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE, I'M SURE.
WE HAVE A LOT TO WORK OUT AND I HOPE WE CAN DO IT OPENLY AND SEE WHAT TO DO TO ADDRESS THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF US.
>> THE STAFF SAID IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THERE ARE 17 UNITS THAT ARE ADDED BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY, PROBABLY FIVE OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
EVEN IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION, YOU STILL HAVE INCREASED DENSITY BEYOND THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PIECE.
THAT IS REALLY ONLY A VERY SMALL COMPONENT OF THE WHOLE OVERALL INCREASED DENSITY.
FOR ME, THAT IS NOT A PERSUASIVE FACTOR BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU WANT THE INCREASE IN DENSITY WITH ONLY FOR FIVE UNITS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
BUT YOU'RE PUTTING IN 12 OTHER ONES AS WELL.
TO ME THAT THAT RUBS AGAINST WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING.
NOT WANTING INCREASED DENSITY, NOT WANTING IT TO BE COMPACT, NOT WANTING US TO TURN IT INTO A CITY, NOT WANTING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE.
FOR ME, YOU HAVE THE 17 UNITS, FIVE OF THEM BEING WORKFORCE HAS AND YOU'VE GOT 12 OTHERS.
>> THIS PROJECT IN ISOLATION ON A FULLY FUNCTIONAL LEVEL OF SERVICE, A OR B ROAD WOULD BE A REASONABLE CONCLUSION TO MAKE BECAUSE THE TOWN HAS SERIOUS DEFICITS IN THE LOWER RENTS APARTMENT LIVING WORKFORCE HOUSING.
WITH A DEFICIT OF THOUSANDS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING IS LIKE 18,000-UNIT STAFF, IT'S IT'S INCREDIBLE.
BUT THAT ROAD, WE HAVE IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FUNDED IN OUR CIP, WHICH WE PUT IN, I THINK, LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT. THAT'S GOING TO TRY TO FIX WHAT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ON THAT ROAD.
IT'S A GOOD-LOOKING DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE I SAID, IF IT WAS ON A FUNCTIONING ROAD, I WOULD CONSIDER IT.
BUT I STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH THERE MAY BE PARKING.
IF IT WAS LESS DENSE APPLICANT, YOU'D HAVE MORE ROOM FOR THREE-CAR FAMILIES TO PARK ELSEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY.
I SEE THE MAYOR'S CONCERNS WITH THE NARROW GARAGES.
THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE CODE.
HE'S NOT ASKING FOR ANY WAIVERS.
IT FILLS A FEW NEEDS WE HAVE IN THE TOWN, BUT I'M AT THE OLD WHEN IN DOUBT COUNT WITH THE ISSUES ON BUSH ROAD.
IT'S JUST I LIVE ABOUT HALF-MILE SELF THAT ARE DOWN MAPLE WOOD AND I'M ON THAT ROAD THREE OR FOUR TIMES A DAY.
THAT'S MY CUT THROUGH THE PUBLIC'S SO AND I DON'T USUALLY HIT TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS SOME TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD, AND I KNOW I'M ON THE RUSH HOUR IN INDIANTOWN ROAD THEM ON THE ROAD ALL DAY.
IT'S BRUTAL AND WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
BUT I WOULD CONSIDER IF THIS WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS DENSE, I WOULD CONSIDER IT, BUT IT'S JUST A LITTLE TOO IMPACTFUL FOR THE CURRENT SITUATION THAT'S DOWN IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S ABOUT IT. I'M INTERESTED IN COUNCILOR MAY'S COMMENTS.
>> EVERY THIRD DAY I GO TO WORK AND I THINK AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A DAY I HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE NURSING HOME ON BUSH ROAD.
I WORK AS A FIREFIGHTER IN THE DOWN SO I UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS DOING ON THAT ROAD.
THE IMPROVEMENTS TO GO FROM A LEVEL OF SERVICE F, TO A LEVEL OF SERVICE C. BEFORE THIS PROJECT IS EVEN THERE,
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THOUGH IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT.STILL NOT AN A. THE TRAFFIC ALONE IS KEEPING ME FROM WANTING TO APPROVE THIS AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE 60,000 PLUS RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THIS TOWN AND YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME FOUR UNITS AS WORKFORCE.
THAT'S NOT EVEN A DROP IN THE BUCKET.
IT'S LIKE A SPRINKLE IN THE AIR.
WHILE I APPRECIATE COMING FORWARD WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED.
IT JUST DOESN'T DO ENOUGH FOR ME TO GIVE IT ANY BONUS POINTS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT I HATE THE BONUS POINT PROGRAM.
I WANTED TO GET RID OF IT ALTOGETHER, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE INCREASE IN DENSITY GOING AGAINST MY PRINCIPLES, I JUST RIGHT NOW I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
LIKE I SAID, WHILE I APPRECIATE BRINGING WORKFORCE HOUSING, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DEVELOPMENT OF ALL WORKFORCE HOUSING AT SOME LEVEL.
INSTEAD OF JUST A LITTLE BIT OF IT, JUST TO GET SOME BONUS POINTS TO INCREASE DENSITY.
>> THERE'S ONE THING I LEARNED ABOUT TRAFFIC AS WELL.
WE HAVE ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE OUR ROADS, AND I KEPT SEEING BUSH ROAD IS LEVEL OF SERVICE B, AND THEN I LOOKED AT THE STAFF REPORT, AND WHY IS IT A LEVEL OF SERVICE F AND IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION, HAS A DIFFERENT RATING OR LEVEL OF SERVICE THAN THE ROAD.
ALL OF OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS HAVE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR BUSH ROAD AS B, BUT THE INTERSECTION IS FAILING RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS AND WE ALL FEEL IT.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT BY CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC NEED AND THE DENSITY.
BUT I THINK I UNDERSTAND HOW STRONG THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM IS AND TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS AS WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE TPA AND OTHER DISCUSSIONS, TAKE A REALLY LONG TIME TO IMPLEMENT SOMETIMES IF THERE ARE DELAYS, THIS COULD BE EVEN HARDER.
OUR EXTERNAL ENVIRONMENT IS CHANGING FASTER AND WE STRUGGLED TO KEEP UP.
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS DELAYED, EVERYTHING DELAYED.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT FOR THIS COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND IT.
>> I JUST HAD ONE MORE THANKS TO THE TRAFFIC.
THERE'S PLUSES AND MINUSES TO THE OUTLETS FROM BUSH ROAD.
YOU CAN LEAVE THE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT GO SOUTH AND YOU CAN GO EITHER WAY ON TONEY PENNA, EAST-WEST.
BUT THAT HOT RIGHT AT INDIANTOWN ROAD IS A PLEASURE.
EVEN IF THERE WAS A LIKELY YOU CAN GO WEST.
IT'S STILL IN THE TOWN ROAD, BUT THAT HOT RIGHT REALLY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE RIGHT, GET OUT AND MAKE A U-TURN AND THAT'S JUST CLOGS THAT MAY HAVE A WINNER SECTION, IT'S A REALLY TOUGH FIT.
>> OR GOING THROUGH CHASE WOOD WHICH IT'S ALREADY REALLY, [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU CAN'T IMPROVE DEVELOPMENT.
>> YOU CAN CUT THROUGH A PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT'S IN THAT WE HAVE THE SHARED ACCESS TO THE BEST FROM GOING INTO BUSINESS TO BUSINESS.
THAT'S NOT. THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS ARE JUST, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.
>> I THINK IT'S CLEAR BASED ON EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FOR WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
THIS AT A TIME NORMALLY WHERE I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND, BUT I WANT TO GIVE THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAD IF THEY WANT TO WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION.
IF WE GO FORTH AND VOTE ON IT AND DENY IT, WHICH IS THE WAY IT'S GOING, THEN YOU CAN COME BACK WITH AN APPLICATION FOR TWO YEARS.
>> DO YOU WANT US TO GO FORTH WITH THE MOTION AND TAKE ACTION? CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND?
>> WASHINGTON ABOUT TODAY APPLICATION?
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
WITH THAT, WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[7. Annual Traffic Update.]
NEXT ITEM IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON AN ANNUAL TRAFFIC UPDATE IN ANY RESONANCE THAT WISH TO, I'D ASK YOU FOR YOU TO LEAVE IN SILENCE PLEASE.[01:45:38]
>> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, THOMAS FERNANDEZ, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS.
TONIGHT, MYSELF AND THE CHIEF WILL BE GIVING YOUR ANNUAL UPDATE FOR THE TRAFFIC.
REALLY JUST THE TRAFFIC MEASURES WHICH ARE BEING TAKEN WITHIN THE TOWN AND ESSENTIALLY THE VARIOUS PROJECTS.
I WILL BE COVERING MOST OF THE PROJECT STATUS ITEMS, AND THEN CHIEF WILL BE COVERING SOME OF THE TRAFFIC STATISTICS AND SOME OF THE THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
ESSENTIALLY TONIGHT, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO PRESENT THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY FALLS UNDER THE MOBILITY PORTION OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE TOWN.
AS A PART OF THAT, EVEN BREAKING FURTHER DOWN THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION PORTION, WHICH IS TO ENHANCE AND UPDATE THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLANS FOR ROADWAYS WHICH ARE NOT MEETING THE TOWN'S LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS.
ESSENTIALLY, THE SOLE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE AN ANNUAL PRESENTATION ON MITIGATION STRATEGIES AND THE STATUS OF ROADWAY PROJECTS ACROSS VARIOUS AGENCIES.
FURTHER, WE AS STAFF, WE ARE ALSO PURSUE AND SECURE PROJECT COMMITMENTS FROM OTHER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT OUR REGULAR DUTIES THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR.
MYSELF, I SIT ON THE TPA AND THEN WE WORK WITH OTHER ENTITIES TO ADVANCE PROJECTS WHEREVER WE CAN.
ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT WHILE I'M COVERING JUST THIS PORTION OF THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE FOR MOBILITY, I WILL BE DISCUSSING OTHER STRATEGIC INITIATIVE PROJECTS WHICH FALL UNDER THE MOBILITY PORTION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
I WILL START OFF WITH WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY, WE ALL KNOW IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST, IT IS REALLY THE BUSIEST TOWN OR ROADWAY THAT WE HAVE IN THE TOWN, WHICH IS INDIANTOWN ROAD.
I'LL COVER SOME OF THE CURRENT AND PROPOSED TRAFFIC MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR INDIANTOWN ROAD.
ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST THREE PROJECTS WHICH ARE LISTED THERE, THEY ARE ALL ONE PROJECT.
THEY ARE PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD AS A PART OF THE FDOT PROJECTS WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE.
ESSENTIALLY, WE IN JANUARY APPROVE OR THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED AN INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THE FUNDING WHICH WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE FDOT SO THEY CAN CONSTRUCT THE TOWN PORTION, THE FDOT PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
THE WORK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE FOR THOSE FIRST THREE ITEMS IS PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD IN 2024, PROVIDED THAT EVERYTHING IS STILL ON SCHEDULE.
I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY CHANGES FROM THAT SCHEDULE.
THE PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LET IN APRIL OF THIS CURRENT YEAR.
MOVING DOWN TO THE NEXT PROJECT UNDERNEATH THAT, WHICH IS A SOUTHERN EXTENSION OF ISLAND WAY.
THAT PROJECT IS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE TOWN.
THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE IS YET TO BE DETERMINED.
THERE IS RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT IS REQUIRED AS A PART OF THAT PROJECT AS WELL.
LATER THIS YEAR, STAFF WILL BE WORKING TO UPDATE COSTS AND WORK WITH A CONSULTANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE PLANS THAT WE FEEL NECESSARY.
STAFF SUCH AS MYSELF WILL BE REVIEWING THE PLANS.
IT'D BE MORE ACQUAINTED WITH THEM AND THEN PROVIDE SOME OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS THE ABILITY TO REVIEW THE PLANS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES THAT THEY FEEL ARE NECESSARY.
WITH THE NEXT PROJECT DOWN, THAT IS A PALM BEACH COUNTY PROJECT, WHICH IS IT'S AT CENTRAL BOULEVARD AND INDIANTOWN.
IT WOULD ADD ONE NORTHBOUND LANE AND WIDEN CENTRAL BOULEVARD FROM ESSENTIALLY INDIANTOWN ROAD UP TO CHURCH STREET.
THAT I SPOKE WITH THE COUNTY TODAY, AND THEIR PROJECT MANAGERS SAID THAT THE SCOPE IS CURRENTLY BEING DEFINED AS A PART OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.
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IT'S A LITTLE BEHIND ON SOME OF THE SHORT LISTING FOR THE DESIGN.HOWEVER, THAT SHOULDN'T BE TAKING PLACE IN THE FUTURE.
>> BEFORE YOU TURN THE PAGE I JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THIS, AND I SHARE FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE JOINTLY HEAR AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE TOWN ON THE TPA.
NUMBER 1, I JUST WANT TO HAVE YOU CONFIRM AND JUST ON THE RECORD, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT WHEN WE PROCESS TO CHANGE IN JANUARY ON THE FIRST THREE PROJECTS.
BUT I THINK THAT PRIMARILY FDOT FUNDED PROJECT WENT FROM $1012 MILLION TO $22 MILLION.
>> IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE OVERALL, LET'S SAY THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION, IT ENDED UP WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL, IT WAS EIGHT FOR THAT PORTION AND IT WENT UP TO 16.
THE TOWN'S PORTION, WHAT IS GOING TO BE UP TO FOUR FROM WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WAS ABOUT 1.4 MILLION.
>> I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT MY COLLEAGUES REALLY UNDERSTOOD, I APPRECIATE YOUR ROLE IN HELPING TO DELIVER WHAT WE GOT.
HERE'S A PROJECT THAT DOUBLED IN PRICE.
FDOT THOUGHT ABOUT COMING BACK AND ASKING US FOR MORE MONEY, AND DIDN'T, AND IT WAS FULLY FUNDED.
THAT WAS A CERTAINLY OUR STAFF HAD CERTAINLY GET SOME CREDIT FOR HELPING TO MAKE SURE THAT FDOT THOUGHT THERE WERE ABOUT ASKING US TO CONTRIBUTE MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT.
I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
BUT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT, IT'S A $16 MILLION PROJECT.
THEN CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY? COORDINATING WITH THE COUNTY AND I'M NAKED AND I HAVEN'T SPOKE WITH THEM ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MONTHS.
THE CENTRAL BOULEVARD, ONE NORTHBOUND THROUGH LANE IS JUST NORTH OF INDIANTOWN OR DOES IT INCLUDE THE SECTION SOUTH OF INDIANTOWN? BECAUSE I SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT THAT, HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN ANSWER.
>> THE INFORMATION THAT I PULLED HERE WAS FROM THE TPAS WEBSITE AND THEN I DID ALSO SPEAK WITH ONE OF THEIR PROJECT MANAGERS TODAY AND I EMPHASIZE WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH THEM, THE NORTHBOUND THROUGH LANE, AS WELL AS THE PORTION NORTH OF INDIANTOWN.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU BELIEVE THEY HAVE IN THEIR PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR? BUT AS YOU PUT HERE, IT'S STILL LIVES IN AFTER 2027, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE FULL FUNDING.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PUSHING FORWARD TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION.
YOU SAID THAT THE DESIGN IS PROGRAM FOR PARTIAL FUNDING, BUT [OVERLAPPING] CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
>> CORRECT. THAT PORTION I HAVEN'T COVERED THAT ONE QUITE YET, BUT HOWEVER, THAT'S THE EXTENSION OF THE WESTBOUND AUXILIARY LANE FROM CENTRAL BOULEVARD TO JUPITER WEST PLAZA AND THE EXTENSION OF AN EASTBOUND LANE FROM CENTRAL BOULEVARD TO CHASEWOOD PLAZA.
WE HAVE CURRENTLY AS A PART OF OUR FISCAL OUR CIP, THAT A PORTION OF THE DESIGN IS PARTIALLY PROGRAMMED THROUGH THE TOWN FUNDING THAT PORTION.
NO, THAT CURRENTLY THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED.
I'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE TPA AS WELL AS THE FDOT TO GET THAT.
MY IDEAL SITUATION WOULD BE TO GET THAT ADDED TO THE FDOT IS WORK PLANS, SO THE TOWN WOULD NOT TAKE ON THAT EXPENSE.
WHAT RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE REQUIRED.
ESSENTIALLY, MY PLAN IS TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE TPA AS WELL.
>> I JUST WANTED TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT WE OUGHT TO COLLABORATIVELY PUSH IT THAT WAY SO THAT IT'S GRANT FUNDED OR BE FUNDED.
WE NEED TO GET F DOT AND TP TO SUPPORT THE FUNDING OF THAT, SO WE'RE NOT PAYING THE FULL AMOUNT.
THAT'S WHAT YOUR PLAN IS, CORRECT?
>> I'LL JUST PAUSE THERE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I HAD ONE QUESTION TO GO BACK TO THE NORTHBOUND LANE, CENTRAL BOULEVARD TO CHURCH STREET, OR IS THERE ANY PLAN TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE LEFT TERM WHEN YOU'RE COMING OUT OF RIVER WALK ONTO CENTRAL BOULEVARD BECAUSE I ALMOST GET HIT REGULARLY THERE.
IT'S A VERY WIDE AREA YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH BEFORE YOU CAN TURN IN A RESIDENCE, HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP AND WE HAD SAID NO, NOTHING CAN BE DONE, BUT IT'S A PRETTY DANGEROUS SPOT IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXPAND THE LANE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO LOOK AT THAT AT THE SAME TIME?
>> I REMEMBER IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS AS THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT UP BY SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT IT WAS ONE OF OUR ENGINEERS RECOMMENDATIONS TO.
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WHEN THEY DO THAT, WE WOULD MAKE A COMMENT TO THE COUNTIES PLANS TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD INSTALL ESSENTIALLY MEDIAN TO ALLOW MORE OF A REFUGE AREA, EVEN IF THE COUNTY DID NOT, IF IT NEVER CAME TO THE POINT THAT THERE WAS A SIGNAL WARRANTS AND AT THAT LOCATION THAT POTENTIALLY IT WOULD MAKE IT A BETTER REFUGE AREA FOR ANYONE COMING OUT OF THE RIVER WALK COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PULL OUT INTO THE MIDDLE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIT UNTIL THEY COULD ACTUALLY PULL THAT OUT INTO SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC.>> JUST TO ANSWER TO THAT. GOOD COMMENT.
DOES IT AGREE THAT THE DESIGN IS NOT YET PROGRAMMED? I COULDN'T IMAGINE HOW THE COUNTY WOULD PROCEED WITH ENGINEERING TO MAKE AN EXTRA NORTHBOUND LANE EFFECTIVE FOR CROSSING THE INDIANTOWN WITHOUT ACTUALLY RESOLVING WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT CAR GETS TO RIVER WALK.
WELL, I'M STILL SKEPTICAL ABOUT THIS.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT SAYS WIDEN IT TO CHURCH STREET.
THAT MEANS THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE BRIDGE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT IN THE PLAN.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT AS THIS PROCEEDS IN PERSUE YOU DID HEAR ABOUT IT AGAIN AS IT'S PROCEEDING, BUT THEY NEED TO RESOLVE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
IT CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT ADDRESSING WHAT YOU'RE POINTING OUT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE A COUNTY WOULD DO THAT.
YOU CAN'T DEAD END IT AND LEAVE A PROBLEM.
>> AT THIS POINT, WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO ME THROUGH THEIR PROJECT MANAGER IS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON DEFINING THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT ITSELF AND THEY'LL BE WORKING ON SHORT LISTING AND DESIGNER AND MOVING TOWARDS THE DESIGN, COMPLETING THE ACTUAL DESIGN PORTION OF THAT PROJECT.
>> ONE QUESTION. CENTRAL INTERSECTION SELF, IS THERE ROOM FOR MORE LANAGE ON THAT WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> YEAH. BUT I'D ASK THE COUNTY, I HAD AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WAS ENGINEERED SOME YEARS AGO AND I'D ASKED AND HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT YET.
BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS ENGINEERED BECAUSE WE PUT FUNDING TOWARDS IT.
I'M STILL TRYING TO GET THE PLANS FROM THE COUNTY.
I REMEMBER YEARS AND YEARS BACK WHEN THAT WAS BEING ENGINEERED, SPEAKING WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORE OWNER AND I DO BELIEVE THEY HAD ONE PLANNED THAT THEY HAD ENOUGH RIGHT AWAY, IF YOU WILL, TO DO IT WITHOUT REALLY DOING THAT MUCH IMPACT.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS, WHICH IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND THE DRAWINGS WHICH I'VE NEVER SEEN, BUT SO TOO DID THE ENGINEERING ON.
THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT AS PART OF THE PROJECT ALONG WITH THE UPGRADING THE BRIDGE TO CHURCH STREET, AND THEN THEY RAN OUT OF FUNDS.
IT NEVER GOT DONE, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE PLANNING ON THAT, SO WE'LL GET THAT AND MAKE SURE COUNCIL KNOWS ABOUT IT.
>> THAT BRIDGE IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO ADDING LANES TO IT, CORRECT THIS ONE.
>> NO, BUT THEY WERE PROCEEDING INITIALLY WITH THE PLAN TO WIND THE BRIDGE.
I DON'T SEE THEM WIDENING THE BRIDGE.
WHILE INDIANTOWN ROAD IS A VERY BUSY ROAD AND IT'S GOT MOST OF OUR TRAFFIC IN THE TOWN THAT RUNS ACROSS IT, I WOULD NOTE THAT FIVE OF THESE SIX ITEMS THAT ARE IN THIS TABLE, THESE ARE ALL STRATEGIC PRIORITIES OR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.
>> THOMAS, REAL QUICK. AS FAR AS THE INDIANTOWN ROAD AND I95 AREA IMPROVEMENTS, IS THIS GOING TO BE ANYWHERE CONCURRENT WITH THE REDESIGN OF THE OFFERINGS FOR I95?
>> WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAST PROJECT IN THE TABLE THERE?
>> NO. SPECIFICALLY THE REDESIGN GOING FROM A RURAL INTERCHANGE TO THE URBAN OR SUBURBAN INTERCHANGE REDESIGN.
I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING RECENTLY WHERE THAT'S [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE FIRST THREE ARE A PART OF THAT, CORRECT.
ESSENTIALLY IT IS BASICALLY THE FDOT ONE IS THE SECOND ONE DOWN.
THEY ARE COMING TO WHERE YOU WILL COME OFF I95 NORTHBOUND AND YOU WILL STOP AT AN ACTUAL TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN ORDER TO MAKE IN THE MAYBE NO LONGER A HOT RIGHT.
>> JUST FOLLOW UP REAL QUICK THIS PAST WEEKEND WITH THE TURNPIKE SHUTDOWN AND 95 BEING THE ONLY ENTRANCE, EXIT, WHATEVER WE HAD A VERY TERRIBLE ACCIDENT JUST NORTH OF I95,
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WHICH PRETTY MUCH SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN.WELL, AT THE SAME EXACT TIME THAT HAPPENED, THERE WAS A VERY TERRIBLE ACCENT ON TURNPIKE.
THE UNITS RESPONDING TOOK ALMOST 25 MIN TO GET THERE BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED ACCESS.
THIS REDESIGN HOPEFULLY WILL MITIGATE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT IF WE EVER HAVE THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
>> MOVING ON TO SOME OF THE TOWN PROJECTS AND THEN TOWN PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWN, THIS I WILL ALSO MENTION IT AS A STRATEGIC INITIATIVE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE A1A AND JUPITER BEACH ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH JUST THE COVER THE SCOPE BRIEFLY RECONSTRUCT THE EXISTING T INTERSECTION TO AROUND ABOUT AS FAR AS STATUS.
PROJECT WAS AWARDED IN OCTOBER OF 2022.
WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING SHOP DRAWINGS AND SUBMITTALS.
THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS SUCH AS LIKE THE STORMWATER STRUCTURES THAT AREN'T REALLY LONG LEAD ITEMS. FROM THE TIME THAT WE EVEN APPROVE THOSE, IT'S ROUGHLY AN 8-10 WEEK TIMELINE BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY START.
THAT WOULD BE THE WORK THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO START FIRST.
THAT IS CURRENTLY WHERE WE'RE AT, WE'RE REVIEWING SHOP DRAWINGS AND SUBMITTALS.
THE REVISED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY FOR PERMIT WHICH INCLUDED THE MODIFICATIONS FOR A MOUNTABLE CURVE AT THE SOUTHERN APPROACH IN THE EVENT THAT IT'S EVER DESIRE THAT SOMEBODY COULD DRIVE OVER THE MEDIAN LEADING UP AND GOING INTO THE JUPITER RIVER PARK COMMUNITY.
THAT WAS DONE FOR PURPOSES OF GETTING ANY RESIDENTS AND REALLY ANY COMPANIES WHO MIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRIVE THEIR TRACTOR TRAILERS OVER AND GIVE THEM ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY IF THAT WAS A CHOICE ON HOW THEY WANT TO ACCESS.
>> HAVE YOU FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM RECENTLY, I REMEMBER WE HAD THAT MEETING WHILE BACK WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THEY'RE PRETTY SATISFIED WITH WHAT WE CAME UP WITH EVENTUALLY?
>> I HAVE NOT FOLLOWED UP WITH A RESIDENTS, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY [OVERLAPPING]
>> HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING EITHER SO I'M JUST CURIOUS.
>> I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM SINCE THIS TIME.
IT DID OCCUR TO ME THE OTHER DAY THAT I HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM.
>> THE WAY THAT DESIGN IS NOW WHAT THE SLOPE CURVE, IT'S ACCESSIBLE.
WE'VE GOT A TRAILER LIKE THEY DO RIGHT NOW.
THEY COULD GET A TRAIL UP THROUGH THERE?
>> IF THE COMPANY WERE WILLING TO DRIVE OVER THE MOUNTABLE CURVE THEN YES THEY COULD DO THAT.
IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE MORE LIKE A D CURVE OR AN F CURVE WHICH HAS A SIX-INCH RISE.
WE HAD CHANGED IT TO WHAT'S CALLED AN E CURVE, WHICH IS A MOUNTABLE CURVE.
IT HAS MORE OF A GRADUAL CURVE.
IF YOU'VE BEEN DRIVING, I BELIEVE IT'S EASTBOUND ON INDIANTOWN ROAD LEADING UP TO THE ISLAND WAY INTERSECTION THAT HAS A SIMILAR CURVE THAT YOU CAN MOUNT.
IT'D BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.
>> ONE OTHER COMMENT. THE ONLY THING I REALLY HEARD IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE PROJECT WITH THE US 1 BRIDGE.
WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR DEALING WITH THE INEVITABLE TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE WITH THESE TWO GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME? AS.
>> A PART OF THAT PROJECT, WE INCLUDED IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL CONDITIONS WHICH THEY TRUMPED REALLY ANYTHING ALMOST THAT HOW WE WRITE OUR CONTRACTS THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS REQUIRED TO KEEP THE INTERSECTION OPEN ON ALL LEGS SO THAT IT IS GOING TO CONTINUE ON, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CLOSE THE INTERSECTION.
WE HAD SEEN SOME MOT PLANS THAT WE JUST MORE OR LESS TOLD THE CONTRACTOR, WELL, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND REWORK ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE.
WE DO HAVE TO LEAVE THAT INTERSECTION OPEN FOR THAT PURPOSE.
>> DOES IT LINK IN THE PROCESS TIME OF THE PROJECT, [OVERLAPPING] THEN BROAD OPEN?
>> THE PROJECT IS, IT WAS SET WITH THOSE STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS.
THEY WERE GIVEN 150 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE WORK FROM THE TIME THAT THEY ARE ISSUED THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.
>> KEEPING IN MIND THAT DEALS WITH WHETHER.
>> I UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESSES ANXIETY ABOUT THEIR IMPACT TO THE BRIDGE.
BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S THE FACT THAT US 1 IS GOING TO HAVE NO THRU TRAFFIC.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY ISSUE GETTING TOO FROM THE INLET VILLAGE ON US 1, AS WE KNOW TRAFFIC.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THERE IS MORE OF A CONCERN OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE DOWN THERE [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND BUT IT HURTS BUSINESSES TOO.
BUT YOU'VE HEARD HOW IT'S BEING ADDRESSED.
I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT IT'S THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN.
>> WELL, THERE'S A MEETING ON THE 24TH.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BUSINESS IS, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE THAT THIS IS OPEN THE ENTIRE TIME.
>> I WILL BE PRESENT WITH THAT, AT THAT MEETING, THERE WAS ANOTHER MEETING.
IT WAS DOUBLE SCHEDULED OVER THAT AND I'VE ALREADY TOLD THE TOWN MANAGER THAT.
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HE'S ALREADY TOLD ME THAT I WILL BE AT THAT MEETING.>> I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO JUST, I KNOW WE HAD GOTTEN A COUPLE OF EMAILS I THINK FROM THE OWNERS OF GUANABANAS AND BLUELINE.
IF WE CAN JUST GET STAFF TO RESPOND TO THEM, LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO REMAIN OPEN AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THEM DURING THE TIME.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT THE MEETING ON THE 24TH ISN'T JUST FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THERE WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY LIAISON.
>> IT IS. IT'S JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY THERE. LET ME SEE.
I HAVE THE DETAILS FOR IT HERE.
I'LL LOOK IT UP WHILE THOMAS [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE ALSO KNOW I HAD ASKED WHEN WE GOT THE EMAILS FROM THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, I HAD ASKED THE TOWN MANAGER AND THOMAS FOR SOME TALKING POINTS ON IT JUST TO REMIND BUSINESSES THAT IT IS OPEN, THAT IT'S A FIVE MONTH PROJECT AND JUST WHAT TO EXPECT IN TERMS OF THE PHASING.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE WALKING THROUGH THAT ON THE 24TH, BUT JUST TO CONTINUE TO GET THE WORD OUT IS REALLY HELPFUL.
>> YEAH, THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN HAS BEEN FROM RESTAURANTS NOT FOR BUSINESSES, SO ANY COMMUNICATION ON THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> COUNCIL IT APPEARS AT THE MEETING ON THE 24TH IS A ZOOM MEETING SCHEDULED FOR 09:00 A.M.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING HERE.
THAT'S ON THE US BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT OUTREACH TO BUSINESSES, CORRECT?
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY IT'S A TOWN AS WELL AS PALM BEACH COUNTY PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT IS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT TONEY PENNA DRIVE IN CENTRAL BOULEVARD, WHICH INSTALLS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION.
IT WILL BE PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE TOWN.
[NOISE] WE WILL BE PAYING A 50% SHARE IN THE PROJECT, AND THE PROJECT WILL BE DESIGNED IN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION BY THE COUNTY'S CONTRACTOR.
AS FAR AS THE STATUS AT THE STAFF LEVEL, WE ARE NEARLY COMPLETED WITH OUR REVIEW OF THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT, AND AFTER IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND FINALIZED, WE'LL BRING IT BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL.
IT WILL BE EITHER THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WHICH IS THE NEXT MEETING, OR THEIR FIRST MEETING IN MARCH.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS JUPITER PARK DRIVE IN CENTRAL BOULEVARD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS PROJECT EXTENDS A RIGHT TURN LANE AND INSTALLS UNDERGROUND PIPE AND THIS ALLOWS FILLING OF THE DRAINAGE CANAL WHICH IS SOUTH OF THE ROADWAY AT THAT INTERSECTION, AND ALSO INSTALLS LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT AREA WHERE THE CANAL WILL BE FILLED IN, AND ALSO MILLS AND OVERLAYS THE EXISTING ASPHALT.
WHICH YOU'LL NOTICE HERE WITH THE PHOTO, THE CURRENT CONDITION WHERE WE HAVE A VERY SHORT RIGHT TURN LANE, WHICH DOESN'T GIVE THE ABILITY FOR ANY TRAFFIC TO DRIVE AROUND THE QUEUE WHICH MIGHT BE WAITING FOR THE LEFT TURN LANE.
THIS, AND THEN I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE RENDERING TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, WHICH DOES SHOW THE LONG EXTENSION OF THE RIGHT TURN LANE, WHICH WILL ALLOW MORE TRAFFIC TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND THAT LEFT TURN QUEUE.
THIS PROJECT IS FOR A STATUS, THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL DISTRICT.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AS WELL AS DRAINAGE EASEMENT WHICH WILL SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
THEY'VE ALL SAID IT WILL BE PARTIALLY ON THEIR LAND AS A PART OF THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO ALSO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO PULL SOME OF THE WATER OUT FOR SOME OF THEIR PURPOSES WHICH ARE IN THE EXFILTRATION TRENCH, WHICH WILL BE INSTALLED AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT.
THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE AND WE'RE EXPECTING CONSTRUCTION AND FALL AND WINTER OR WINTER OF THIS YEAR.
>> ON THAT ONE. UNDERSTAND IS JUST A QUICK BRIEFING.
BUT FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY, I'M GRATEFUL THAT ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE ADVANCING AND REALLY GETTING CONSTRUCTIVE.
BECAUSE THIS ONE, BY THE WAY, WE COLLECTED MONEY MORE THAN A DECADE AGO TOWARD IT, AND I WAS ADVOCATING AFFORD TO BE DONE THEN.
FOR MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE, I THINK THE RIGHT THING IS TO BE PROCEEDING.
BUT REALIZING THERE'S A LOT GOING ON BECAUSE WE'VE REALLY DELAYED SOME STUFF FAR TOO LONG.
BUT THAT SAID THAT'S AN AWARENESS INTERSECTION.
ANY TIME, SO I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TRAFFIC CONTINUITY MEASURES DONE,
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AND MAYBE LIMITING CERTAIN THINGS AT TAMMANY.IS THAT NOT CORRECT? WILL YOU EXPECT THE CONTRACT THAT?
>> WHEN YOU SAY THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL YOU CAN'T SHUT THAT INTERSECTION DOWN, IT'S GOING TO BE REMAIN OPEN.
THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS IS NOT A.
>> I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME DIFFICULTIES WORKING AROUND THE MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC, BUT LIKELY IF I WERE TO JUST I GUESS THEY WERE AGAIN, THE WAY I WOULD DO THE THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.
KEEP THAT FUNCTIONAL AS ABSOLUTELY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THE MILLAN OVERLAY, THAT'S REALLY WHAT SOME OF THE MOST LIMITING FACTOR ARE.
>> I HAVE NO DOUBT. THIS IS A ONE-SHOT.
NEXT TIME WE SEE YOU BRINGING A CONTRACT TO US.
HERE'S WANT TO EMPHASIZE REALLY WEIGHING IN THE DECK IF PROPERLY ADDRESSED.
I'M SURE IT WILL, BUT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S A RAMUS INTERSECTION.
>> THAT ONE I USE FREQUENTLY, I THINK I MEAN, I THINK THE THEME OF THIS EVENING IS QUICKLY TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT AND STAYING ON TOP OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS GOING FORWARD AND MAKING SURE WE KEEP THE MOMENTUM.
>> THE NEXT PROJECT WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TONIGHT IS TONEY PENNA DRIVE AND BUSH ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS PROJECT INSTALLS AN EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE ON TONEY PENNA DRIVE AS WELL AS A RECEIVING LANE FOR ANY TRAFFIC TURNING FROM BUSH ROAD, A BYPASS LANE FOR EASTBOUND TRAFFIC ON TONEY PENNA DRIVE AND ALSO ADDS EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK ON TONEY PENNA DRIVE AS WELL AS I HAD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED DURING THE PREVIOUS PORTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, IT ALSO WIDENS AND INSTALLS A LEFT TURN OR A DEDICATED EXCLUSIVE LEFT TURN LANE ON BUSH ROAD.
>> MAINTAINING THE SPEED BUMPS.
>> THE SPEED BUMPS WERE NOT TAKEN INTO A PART OF THAT IS ANY PARTICULAR CONCERN THAT SO ESSENTIALLY MOST OF THE WORK IS OUT AT THE INTERSECTION, NOT IN FURTHER UP ON THE ROADWAY.
>> I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I HATE DRIVING OVER SPEED BUMPS THERE, GREAT COMMERCE OF TRAFFIC, BUT WHAT WAS THE I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN THEY WENT IN AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
WHAT'S IN THE HISTORY ON THAT?
>> THAT IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION THAT I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
>> I CAN CHECK ON THAT AND I CAN GET BACK WITH THE COUNCIL.
>> WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY STILL NEED OR THEY WHAT DO YOU THINK SO NECESSARY OR I'M JUST CURIOUS IF I'M NOT FOR THEM OR AGAINST THEM.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF I'M GOING TO RELY ON THE TRAFFIC PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION FOR US OR AT LEAST LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING BEFORE WE REACH A CONCLUSION.
BUT CERTAINLY VICE MAYOR, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
>> JUST THOUGHT. A LOT OF FUN FACT, THEY'RE NOT FUN TO DRIVE OVER IN A RESCUE TRUCK?
>> ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK WHOSE YOU KNOW PROBABLY HAS A TRAUMATIC INJURY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPEDITIOUSLY GET FROM SOMEWHERE?
>> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THE SAME THING IS TRUE WITH THE POLICE CAR.
>> PROBABLY NOT AS BAD FOR ME.
[LAUGHTER] MAYBE LIKE SPEED TABLES, YOU STILL HAVE TO SLOW DOWN BUT THEY'RE NOT AS HARD IN THE VEHICLE, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE HEAVIER VEHICLES ON THE ROAD THESE DAYS, TRUCKS AND WHATEVER, SUVS.
>> TO SAY AS I DRAG PER SE IS PRETTY FREQUENTLY THAT JUPITER CHRISTIAN AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC CALMING BUT DOES NOT INVOLVE SPEED BUMPS AND CHANGE TO PAVERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S HARD BECAUSE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS SO CLOSE TO A MAJOR COMMERCIAL AREA THAT POTENTIALLY THEY'RE SPEEDING IN THAT CONNECTION AND YOU WANT TO KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE THAT SAID, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO CALM TRAFFIC THAT AREN'T SO [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M GOING TO SEE WHY THEY'RE THERE AND THEY WORK MORE SUBTLE WAY TO DO IT.
>> JUST LIKE THE ONES ON NORTH PENNOCK THERE.
YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN A LOT FOR THEM.
>> WORSE ONES THAT THOSE PLASTIC ONES THEY'RE JUST BOLTED DOWN TO THE PAVEMENT.
>> THEY JUST THROW YOUR FRONT-END RELATABLE.
>> THOSE WERE INTENDED FIRST OF ALL, TRAFFIC CALMING NEVER COMES TO THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE IF DON'T OWE EVERYBODY.
THERE'S A FUND THAT STAFF HAS AN ANKLE OUT AND DO IT, AND THE BOLT DOWN ONES ARE JUST TEMPORARY.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE AN EXPERT, I'M NOT.
BUT JUST I THINK BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION WE HAD.
GENERALLY, STAFF HAS HANDLED IT AND IT'S GENERALLY BEEN OKAY.
BUT PROBABLY ON BUSH ROADS TO THE AGREEMENT IS PROJECT COMES BACK IN KUDOS IN WHAT'S HAPPENING ON BRUSHWORK BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT ROAD WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
WE'RE NOT NORMALLY IN THE LOOP, BUT JUST INCLUDE US.
THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE INTERSECTION AND TELL US EITHER
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THAT YOU CAN NOT GOING TO CHANGE WHAT'S THERE AND WHY OR WHAT YOU MIGHT DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.CAN YOU DO THAT? IF YOU NEED TO PUT SOMETHING INTO BUDGET COMING UP AND DO THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH INTEREST I'M HEARING HERE.
>> WE ALSO HAVE REGULAR TRAFFIC COUNTS, SO I CAN CHECK WHAT THE SPEED IS.
THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED WOULD BE ALONG THAT ROADWAY TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S STILL A SPEEDING ISSUE OR WHETHER IT'S BEEN ABLE TO MITIGATE IT.
YOU'RE CORRECT. THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS TO CALM TRAFFIC AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INSTANCES THAT WERE EVEN IMPLEMENTING NOW AND OTHER SMALL COMMUNITIES WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON MAYBE WORKING TOWARDS A LANE NARROWING INSTEAD OF A VERTICAL TRANSITION.
INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY HAVING A SPEED BUMP, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO DRIVE OVER.
I KNOW THAT FIRE RESCUE HAS GIVEN US NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THE THE ACTUAL SPEED HUMPS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE EMPLOY.
[BACKGROUND] THIS NEXT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, WHICH IS ALSO A STRATEGIC INITIATIVE, AND AS PART OF THAT, IT WAS LISTED AS BEING A CHOOSE TWO TO THREE LOCATIONS FOR PILOTING PEDESTRIAN ACTIVATED CROSSWALK SIGNALS, AND THE FDOT'S ANTI-GLARE TECHNOLOGY.
YOU'LL SEE 10 LOCATIONS WHICH WE AS THE ENGINEERING DIVISION STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THESE LOCATIONS INTERNALLY, AND ESSENTIALLY, WE PLAN ON NARROWING THIS DOWN TO A LIST OF SIX AND THEN PROVIDING THEM TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR RECOMMEND.
REALLY JUST SEEKING GUIDANCE ON WHICH TWO TO THREE YOU WOULD LIKE US TO IMPLEMENT.
>> DID ANY OF THESE CERTAINLY, OWNED BY SCHOOLS SHOULD QUALIFY THE FOR TPA GRANT PROCESS REMEDIES INCLUDED IN THAT PROCESS?
>> THEY WERE NOT, WE HAD BUDGETED FOR SOME OF THOSE THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE TPA BUDGET OR THE TPA GRANT FUNDING.
BUT YES, THEY COULD BE CERTAINLY INCLUDED IN THAT.
AT THE STAFF LEVEL WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE COGNIZANT OF, LIKE YOU HAD MENTIONED, PLACES THAT ARE AROUND SCHOOLS, PLACES THAT HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS THAT MIGHT WALK PAST.
LIKE ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO A JUPITER VILLAGE POOL ALONG TONEY PENNA DRIVE.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT ABOUT OF LOCATIONS WHERE MID BLOCK CROSSINGS ARE AT LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S A DEFLECTION IN THE OVERALL HORIZONTAL ALIGNMENT OF THE ROADWAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DRIVE DOWN UNIVERSITY AND IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ITEMS LISTED THERE.
THERE'S A CURVE, AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT, THAT HORIZONTAL CURVE IS A CROSSWALK.
THESE ITEMS AND ENGINEERING CONTROLS WOULD GIVE SOMEBODY THE ABILITY TO SEE IF SOMEBODY WERE CROSSING BEFORE YOU REALLY GET AROUND THE CURVE.
>> I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING MISSING WORK, MAYBE SOME AREAS THAT DON'T, BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE STAFF RANKING AND TELL US HOW MUCH EACH OF THEM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'D BE INCLINED TO PROCEED WITH MORE THAN TWO OR THREE.
IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.
IF YOU COULD COME BACK, THINK OF IT THAT WAY WHEN YOU PRESENT IT.
WE REALIZE YOU HAVE LIMITED BUDGET RIGHT NOW, BUT THESE THINGS TAKE FOREVER TO GET GOING SO SOME OF US MIGHT BE INCLINED TO DO MORE THAN TWO TO THREE.
>> OKAY AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY REVIEW OF THE ROUNDABOUTS ON CENTRAL THAT SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN CONFLICT THERE?
>> AS FROM A PEDESTRIAN STANDPOINT.
>> YEAH. LIKE WHEN SOMEONE IS JOGGING AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET EITHER ACROSS CENTRAL OR WHETHER IT'S FREDRICK'S MALL OR WHATEVER.
THESE CARS ARE COMING AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT PRETTY QUICKLY AND THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO SLOW DOWN IF THEY SEE SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO CROSS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO LOOK AT THIS TYPE OF FLASHING LIGHTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR SOMEONE WHO IS APPROACHING THOSE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS.
>> WE COULD KEEP IN MIND IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, IT WOULD BE ON A COUNTY ROADWAY, SO IT WOULD ALSO BE SUBJECT TO COUNTY APPROVAL.
I'D HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY TYPICALLY DO IT LIKE A ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTION, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT.
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>> HOW ABOUT WE FLOAT THAT TO THE COUNTY.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION SAYING IT'S BEEN ASKED.
LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THOSE ARE COUNTY ROADS SO THEY CONTROL THOSE.
WE JUST ASK THE QUESTION THEY'RE FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH.
WHY THERE'D BE AN INTEREST IN THAT? LET'S JUST ASK THAT GENERICALLY AND HAVE THEM TELL US.
IF NOT, TELL US WHAT ALTERNATIVELY WOULD THEY SUGGEST.
>> ESPECIALLY WITH THE UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD AND CENTRAL BOULEVARD, I KNOW THAT THE ROUNDABOUT WAS PUT IN, IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED, [OVERLAPPING] GIVEN THE SHAPE.
[LAUGHTER] BUT, AND YOU KNOW, AND WE SAW THAT THE NUMBER OF CRASHES WENT DOWN, I THINK IT'S ADDRESSED HERE, BUT THE NUMBER OF NEAR MESSES.
I MEAN, I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST TRULY CONFUSED.
I'M STOPPING, THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE STOPPING, NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO, AND SO THE FRUSTRATION THAT COMES WITH THAT WHILE IT DOESN'T RESULT IN AN ACCIDENT IS A PROBLEM AND FOR PEDESTRIANS AND RUNNERS TO IT SEEMS TO HAVE CREATED FRUSTRATION ON THE PART OF ALL TYPES OF MOBILITY.
I'LL BE CURIOUS ABOUT THE FEEDBACK.
I KNOW A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME WAS SPENT ON IT, BUT IT'S STILL I MEAN, HOW MANY YEARS LATER, HOW MANY MONTHS LATER, CAUSING PROBLEMS AND THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNAGE THERE TOO, WHICH IS CONFUSING.
YOU GET THERE AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE JUST OVERWHELMED BY SIGNAGE AND CARS AND PEDESTRIANS AND BIKES.
>> IT SEEMS EVERYTHING HAPPENS QUICKLY WHEN YOU GET TO IT.
>> BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER DRIVER IS GOING TO DO.
WE ALL JUST SLOW LIKE A STOP SIGN THERE, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS.
IT'S BECOME A FOUR-WAY STOP OR SOMETHING, WHETHER IT MEANT TO BE OR NOT.
>> PEOPLE IN THE ROUNDABOUT DON'T REALIZE THAT IF ONCE YOU'RE IN THE ROUNDABOUT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
>> THE PEOPLE APPROACHING FROM CENTRAL, THEY'RE JUST GOING RIGHT THROUGH THINKING THIS CAR IS COMING IN AND THEY HAVE TO STOP OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT.
> IT ALSO OCCURRED TO ME AS I WAS COMPOSING MY PRESENTATION AND THEN DOING MY REHEARSALS FOR IT.
WHILE I WAS ABLE TO UPDATE ONE PROJECT THAT I HAD MISSED ON THE INDIANTOWN ROAD PROJECTS, I DID ALSO MISS ONE PALM BEACH COUNTY PROJECT WHICH ACTUALLY HAD BEEN MENTIONED BY A RESIDENT EARLIER TONIGHT.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY A THREE LINING OF CENTER STREET FROM LOXAHATCHEE RIVER ROAD TO THE EAST TOWARDS ALTERNATE A1A.
THAT PROJECT IS A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE NORTHBOUND, WHICH I HAD TALKED ABOUT FOR THE CENTRAL BOULEVARD.
THAT PROJECT, THEY JUST COMPLETED THE SHORT LISTING FOR THE DESIGNERS WITH THE COUNTY.
THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE MOVING TOWARDS DESIGN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
>> FOR ME, THAT'S ONE I REALLY WANT US TO FOCUS ON AND TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE WAY THE COUNTY USE THAT ROAD AND THE WAY THE RESIDENTS VIEW THAT ROAD.
IT'S MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD, NOT IN THE TECHNICAL SENSE, BUT THE WAY PEOPLE LIVE THERE, PEOPLE CAN'T GET OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC, AND THE COUNTY IS FOCUSED ON THE FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC NOT HOW IT FUNCTIONS.
THEN WE HAVE THE ABSOLUTE HORRIFIC ACCIDENT ON FRIDAY, AND IF YOU CAN'T WALK DOWN THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, IT SEEMS IT NEEDS TO BE RETHOUGHT.
WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS TRAFFIC CALMING, NOT A WAY TO PUSH MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT GIVEN THAT ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS JUPITER AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD IS PALM BEACH COUNTY.
BUT IT'S REALLY GOING TO AFFECT THE CHARACTER OF THAT ENTIRE AREA IF WE CAN'T FIND A WAY TO DEAL WITH ROAD, TO CALM IT DOWN.
>> ACTUALLY, IT'S INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THAT I DID MEET WITH RESIDENTS LAST MONDAY NOW TO GO OVER SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS, AND WHILE I WAS THERE, I WAS ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THE EASY NOTES AND EASY ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS THAT WE CAN LIKELY IMPROVE AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED IN ORDER TO TRY TO ACCENTUATE THE CURVE.
I HAVE ALSO DIRECTLY SEEN THAT FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS.
>> BUT WHEN THE DESIGN OF THAT ROAD IS DONE, WE'LL COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT THAT.
THAT'D BE THE TIME THEY WOULD BE INSPECTING THAT, AND IF THEY WON'T ACCEPT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO FUND THEN WE CAN DECIDE AS A COUNCIL TO FUND IT.
IT WOULD BE DONE IN THE DESIGN PHASE.
>> HAVE YOU SEEN ANY DESIGNS ON THAT?
>> I HAVE NOT AT THIS TIME, IT IS CURRENTLY BECAUSE THEY JUST SHORT SHORTLISTED IT WITH THEIR DESIGNER THOUGH WE'LL START ON THE DESIGN FAIRLY SHORTLY.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT'S CONCEPTUAL THAT THEY'VE CREATED,
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BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY DESIGNS ON IT.>> WOULD YOU ASSUME IT WILL BE A MIDDLE TURNING LANE?
>> YES. THAT IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF LOXAHATCHEE RIVER ROAD.
>> THERE IS A RESIDENT SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS TOPIC THAT HE HAS STARTED A BLOG ABOUT IT, AND HE REALLY WANTS A MEDIAN WITH TREES ON CENTER STREET WITH PAVER CROSSWALKS AND MID BLOCK CROSSWALKS TO HAVE THAT RESIDENTIAL SCALE OR TO HAVE PEOPLE.
IT IS A MORE PEDESTRIAN SCALE BECAUSE IT'S OLD JUPITER AND IT WAS BUILT THAT WAY.
I'VE HEARD THAT FROM A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS.
I HEARD ONE TWO DAYS AGO AS WELL.
SO THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE COUNTY SEES AND WHAT RESIDENTS WANT TO SEE.
>> WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL.
BEFORE YOU IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDES AFTER THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE ANNUAL STATISTICS FOR TRAFFIC CRASHES REALIZED WITHIN THE COUNTY OF JUPITER.
WE PROVIDE FIVE YEARS WORTH OF STATISTICS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE AN OVERVIEW OF TRENDS AS FAR AS CRASHES, PEDESTRIAN CRASHES, BICYCLIST CRASHES, AND WHATNOT.
AS YOU SEE, WE REALIZED 1,834 CRASHES IN THE YEAR 2022.
TO NOTE, THAT IS AN EIGHT YEARS AGO, EXCLUDING 2020, WHICH WAS COVID WHEN THERE WAS THE STAY, HOME ORDERS AND SCHOOLS ARE CLOSING WHATNOT.
EXCLUDING THAT ONE ANOMALY, THE 1834S AND 80 BELOW, WE'VE LISTED SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS AND SUCH WITH MR. HERNANDEZ AND HIS PREDECESSOR, MR. DRISCOLL.
THIS ADDRESSED HIS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAYS.
THROUGH STATISTICS, WE REALIZED THAT THERE WERE CLUSTERS OF CRASHES IN CERTAIN AREAS AND OVER THAT DECADE PLUS ROUNDABOUT ON CENTRAL BOULEVARD AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ALONG CENTRAL BOULEVARD, PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS ON INDIANTOWN ROAD AS WELL AS OTHER STREETS.
CENTER STREET IMPROVEMENTS, YELLOW TRAFFIC LIGHTS, MEANING PROTECTED LEFT-HAND TURNS.
IN ADDITIONALLY, WE REORGANIZED OUR TRAFFIC UNIT OUR OFFICERS TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE DAYS OF THE WEEK AND HOURS OF THE DAY THAT THE TRAFFIC CRASHES WERE OCCURRING IN THE DAYS OF THE WEEK AND THE HOURS OF THE DAY WE'RE RECEIVING MOST OF OUR COMPLAINTS AS FAR AS TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT DID RESULT IN CRASHES.
OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE HAD A STEADY DECLINE FROM 21, 2,200 DOWN TO THE 1834.
THANK YOU BYE BYE. THE NEXT SLIDE DEALS WITH DUI RELATED CRASHES.
THESE STATISTICS AGAIN FOR LAST FIVE YEARS SAW A DOWNWARD TREND IN DUI CRASHES AS WELL AS ARREST.
AGAIN, EXCLUDING THE YEAR 2022.
OF NOTE, ALSO IS THAT WHEN WE REALIGN OUR TRAFFIC UNIT, WE ALSO PUT TWO INDIVIDUALS ON NIGHT SHIFT WHO THEIR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENFORCE DUI LAWS.
ARE THERE OUT THERE EVERY NIGHT LOOKING AT DUIS, TRYING TO APPREHEND PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING DRUNK, AS WELL AS HANDLING ANY LATE NIGHT CRASHES THAT OCCUR? YES, SIR.
>> PERCEPTION COULD BE WRONG, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS BEFORE WE'VE HAPPENED TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE MULTI JURISDICTION DUI STOP NIGHTS.
>> YOU'RE SPEAKING OF DUI CHECKPOINTS?
>> YEAH. I WONDER IF SOME OF THOSE PEAKS HAPPENED TO HAVE OCCURRED WHEN WE'VE HAD SOME OF THOSE CITE, WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT BEING MISLED BY THE DATA.
BECAUSE IF THOSE PEAKS OF ARRESTS COINCIDED I DON'T HOW MANY NORMALLY IN THOSE CHECK POINTS YOU GET, BUT CAN YOU COMMENT IT OUT OR-.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NOT THE DUI CHECKPOINTS ANYMORE? THERE'S A LOT OF LEGALITY AS FAR AS WHETHER THEY'RE LEGAL OR NOT, THEIR PROPER NOTICING WHETHER PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DRIVE AROUND THEIR INNER DRIVE THROUGH THEM WITHOUT BEING STOPPED.
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE DO WHAT'S CALLED DUI WOLF PACKS, WHERE WE WILL TEAM UP WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, EVERYBODY, WE'LL PUT IN TWO THREE FOUR OFFICERS AND WE'LL FOCUS ON A SPECIFIC AREA OF THE COUNTY.
WE'VE DONE UP HERE, JUPITER, WE'VE DONE I PARTICIPATED IN WEST PALM, BOCA BUT AS FAR AS CHECKPOINTS, NO, WE DON'T [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT MY POINT WAS THEY PROBABLY WERE DONE IN 18 AND 19TH.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF NOW OKAY.
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE MAYBE BACK THEN, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT.
>> STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, I CAN SAY CAN WE NEVER DID MORE THAN TWO A YEAR IN MY CAREER.
>> OKAY. BUT I KNOW WE HAVEN'T DONE A FEW YEARS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE ACROSS THIS HAS CHANGED.
SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE COMFORT IN THE NUMBER GOING DOWN IF IN FACT WE'RE NOT HAVING THOSE HIGHER CATCH RATES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE HAD BACK THEN. THAT'S MY ONLY POINT.
>> THE ARREST VERSUS THE CRASH? THAT IS CORRECT.
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>> NEXT SLIDE, SIR. THANK YOU.
>> AS WE'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY COUNSEL TO FOLLOW A PREVIOUS YEARS, WE DO FOLLOW THE FIVE MOST RELATED CRASHES OR WALK ROADWAYS WITHIN THE TOWN WAS JUPITER.
INDIANTOWN ROAD PROBABLY HAS NO SURPRISE, HAS THE MOST AMOUNT OF CRASHES IN 2022.
I CAN ALSO TELL YOU OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE'VE SEEN THESE TRENDS WITH THESE FIVE ROADS BEING THE EXACT SAME ORDER EVERY YEAR AND NOT NECESSARILY A CAUSATION WHAT A CORRELATION IS.
THERE ALSO RANKED THAT WAY AS FAR AS TRAFFIC PER YEAR ALSO.
INDIANTOWN ROAD OF THE TOP FIVE HAS 28% OF THOSE CRASHES, OR ABOUT 47.6% OF ALL CRASHES WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, FOLLOWED BY ALTERNATE A1A.
FOURTH IS US1, AND DONALD ROSS ROAD IS REMARKABLY IT'S THE SAME FIVE, THE SAME ORDER A YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
>> I HAVE A STRING I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. DON ROSS ROAD.
PART OF THAT ROAD IS JUPITER, THE OTHER PART IS PALM BEACH GARDENS. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> IF YOU'RE GOING EAST VERSES GOING WEST.
>> EASTBOUND LANES BASICALLY BEFORE MY 95 ALL THE WAY TO THE BRIDGE IS JUPITER.
THE WESTBOUND IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEN THE SIDEWALK SOUTH IS PALM BEACH GARDENS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> OKAY. DEPENDING ON WHERE THE CRASH WAS, THAT THAT BEING SAID.
>> IF THE POINT OF THE CRASH OCCURRED IN THE EASTBOUND LANES OR DEAD CENTER OF THE MEDIA, THAT WOULD BE JUPITER.
>> THEN THE STATISTICS FOR THE WESTBOUND WOULD BELONG TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
>> OKAY. YEAH. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE SO LOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE I'M NOT SURE WHEN ALTON CAME ON AND THE NUMBER OF STOPLIGHTS, BUT AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA AND HOW TO INTERPRET IT.
>> IT IS HALF A ROW, STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, YES.
>> WOULD THAT BE OPPOSITE WHY IS SHERIFF HAVE THE WESTBOUND?
>> WHY WOULD THE SHERIFFS MONITOR THE WESTBOUND AND WE HAVE THE SOUTHBOUND AND EASTBOUND?
>> THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS PARTIALED UP BY THE COUNTY AND GARDENS WHEN GARDENS PROBABLY INCORPORATED WHENEVER THEY INCORPORATED.
>> I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE SAME. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE ARE SEVERAL ANOMALIES WITHIN THE TOWN IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY AS FAR AS JURISDICTIONS CONCERNING.
>> YOU HAVE TWO MORE SLIDES AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP.
>> WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT EARLIER TONIGHT.
WE CONTINUE TO GET RESIDENTS THAT VOICE CONCERNS TO US FOR THE CENTRAL BOULEVARD AND UNIVERSITY INTERSECTION, THE PEANUT ROUNDABOUT ENGINEERING STAFF, WE CONTINUE TO GIVE ANY FEEDBACK THAT WE SEE FOR ANYTHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE TO THE COUNTY.
ONE THING I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THAT, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID LOOK AT THE OVERALL PREVIOUS DATA FROM THE YEARS LEADING UP TO THE INSTALLATION OF THE INNER, THE PEANUT ROUNDABOUT, AND WHAT I REALLY WANT TO JUST BRING YOU TO IS THERE IN THE ONE YEAR AFTER THAT TIME, THERE HAS BEEN A REDUCTION ALONG FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS, WHICH IS THE TOTAL CRASH FREQUENCY, THE CRASH RATE, AS WELL AS THE CRASH SEVERITY OF SEVERITY AND THE RELATIVE CRASH SEVERITY PER CRASH.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT EVEN AS THE CHIEF HAS REMINDED ME, WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THESE THINGS BECAUSE HE HAS TOLD MOVES THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ANALYSTS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE A CONSISTENT REDUCTION OVER THE COURSE OF ROUGHLY THREE YEARS THAN WE KNOW IT HAS ACTUALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE, AND IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE REACTING AND DRIVING AROUND IT AND GOING OTHER WAYS BECAUSE THEY GOT USED TO GOING AROUND IT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME.
>> PERSONALLY, I LOVE CJS WORK BEING THE ENGINEER IN ME, BUT IT'S ALL VEHICLE.
EVERYBODY WE SOME UP HERE TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEDESTRIAN.
IF THERE'S SOME INDICATOR ON PEDESTRIAN, IT'D BE INTERESTING.
I WAS CHUCKLING AT MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS INTERSECTION BECAUSE I THINK YOU WANT TO LOOK THREE YEARS BECAUSE OVER TIME YOU WOULD HOPE RESIDENTS LEARN HOW TO MANEUVER THROUGH THAT RATE SO THEY DON'T ALWAYS TAKE A BREAK AND END PERIOD OF TIME.
THE FIRST FEW TIMES I WENT THROUGH IT OH MY GOSH.
BUT YOU CATCH ON AFTER AWHILE.
[LAUGHTER] I HAVE A QUESTION TOO, BECAUSE THIS CAME OUT.
I REMEMBER WATCHING ANOTHER COUNCIL DISCUSS THIS ITEM AND THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD TIME TO LEARN ABOUT THIS ROUNDABOUT.
WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS OR COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT STILL.
AT WHAT IS THE COUNTY SAY WHEN WE SHARE THE ISSUES?
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LIKE WHAT COULD BE DONE IF ANYTHING OR IS THAT LIKE THAT'S NICE WE HEARD YOU.>> THERE HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT INSTALLING LANDSCAPING.
I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING REALLY SINCE I TOOK THE THE DIRECTOR OF POSITION ABOUT THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS SOMETHING ON OUR SIDE.
FOLLOWING UP WITH A LOT OF TIMES THAT IS DONE.
CJ WILL TAKE A LOT OF THAT FEEDBACK AND WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT AND NOT ALL THE TIME DO I GET INVOLVED WITH THAT?
>> I CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ALL TO GIVE YOU ANY FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE FOR THE COUNTY.
>> I THINK THE COUNTY AND ENGINEERS IN GENERAL INCREMENTAL CHANGES AND THEN TEST IT AND SEE RIGHT? TO THE DEGREE THAT THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD APPROACH THIS, AND I'M SURE CJ HAS SHARED THIS WITH THE COUNTY.
WHAT HE'S JUST DONE HERE, AND IF NOT, IT'LL BE PERFECT.
FLIP IT TO THEM AND SAYING, WHOA, YOU KNOW, GREAT FEEDBACK, GOOD SUCCESS.
BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN FROM VEHICLE STANDPOINT.
BUT GEE, THERE'S STILL IS A SENSE THAT ON PEDESTRIAN.
SEE IF WE CAN LEAD THEM IN THE START THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT INCREMENTAL MIGHT BE.
I THINK WITH THE FOCUS REALLY ON.
>> WELL, I THINK THE SUCCESSFUL OBVIOUSLY LESS VEHICLE CRASHES BECAUSE WE ESSENTIALLY RENDERED THIS INTERSECTION AT FOUR-WAY STOP.
>> IF THEY WERE TO JUST MONITOR THAT INTERSECTION ON A DAILY BASIS.
IT WENT FROM JUST PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH AND POTENTIALLY HAVING A BAD CAR ACCIDENTS FROM PEOPLE CROSSING OVER TO PEOPLE NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO AT THIS INTERSECTION.
THEY JUST COME TO A COMPLETE STOP AND THEN EVERYONE JUST STARES AT EACH OTHER.
>> WELL, I THINK IT'S A FOUR-WAY YIELD.
>> WHICH IS WHAT A ROUNDABOUT SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR YIELD.
WELL, I MEAN, IT COULD BE THREE-WAY WHATEVER DEPENDING UPON THE NUMBER OF ROADS INTERSECTING IN INPUT.
BUT ANYWAY, APPRECIATE LET'S ENGAGE THEM.
SAYING HEY, LET'S CELEBRATE THE SUCCESS HERE.
BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT LOGICAL IMPROVEMENT.
>> I BELIEVE IS THE MAYOR'S QUESTION.
I JUST DID SOME ROUGH MATH HERE, LOOKING AT THE SOME OTHER DOCUMENTS I HAVE.
REGARDING BICYCLE CRASHES, FROM 2018 TO 2022, THERE WERE FOUR ALONG SOUTH CENTRAL BOULEVARD BETWEEN DONALD ROSS ROAD AND EDEN CREEK PARKWAY TO LAST YEAR 1 IN 2021, ZERO IN 2020, ZERO IN 2019, AND ONE IN 2018, AND FOR PEDESTRIAN CRASHES, SAME GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.
WE'VE HAD NONE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SPEAKING OF CENTRAL BOULEVARD SOUTH SEGMENT FROM DON ROSS TO EDEN CREEK PARKWAY.
LET ME ALSO SAY REGARDING THE CONTINENT ABOUT THE ANALYST AND THE DATA, IT IS VERY TRUE YOU CANNOT LOOK AT ONE YEAR'S WORTH OF DATA AFTER AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT.
BECAUSE DURING THE INTERSECTION CONSTRUCTION, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO VEER AWAY AND CREATE NEW DRIVING HABITS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD AND THEN WHEN THEY COME BACK, THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION.
ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE YEARS OF DATA IS NEEDED TO REALLY CORRELATE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENT WITH A REDUCTION IN CRASHES.
FOR THAT SEGMENT OF A ROADWAY, AGAIN, FROM 2022, WE HAD 43 TOTAL CRASHES AND THAT IS A FIVE-YEAR LOW OVER 2018 TO 2022.
WE DID HAVE FIVE AT THIS SPECIFIC INTERSECTION WE'RE SPEAKING OF, AND THERE ARE LITTLE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ENGINEERING WE WORKED WITH TO IMPLEMENT REGARDING LED-WRAPPED STOP SIGNS THAT YOU SEE DOWN THERE AT THE INTERSECTION, IS THAT A LITTLE MORE CONFUSING.
EARLIER WARNING AS FAR AS INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE UPCOMING AND THEN SEVERAL AMOUNT OF ROADWAY PAPER MARKINGS FOR THOSE INTERSECTIONS, AND BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS HISTORICAL NUMBERS THAT WERE HIGHER, THAT IS A POINT OF THE TOWN THAT WE HAVE OUR TRAFFIC UNIT GO DOWN TO PAYLOAD ATTENTION TO DURING THE VISIT [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH THE DAY.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS REGARDING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CRASHES AGAIN, 2018 TO 2022.
YOU SEE LAST YEAR 2022, WE DID SEE 36 CRASHES.
THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A NOMINAL NUMBER OVER THE LAST 5-10 YEARS.
ROUGHLY, WE HAD 19 PEDESTRIAN CRASHES AND 17 BICYCLIST CRASHES FOR THE TOWN.
THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT JUST A LITTLE OVER ONE PERCENT AND JUST A LITTLE BIT BELOW ONE-TENTH OF ONE PERCENT OF OVERALL CRASHES.
IT SHOULD BE ALSO NOTED THAT OF THE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE CRASHES, MOST OF THEM ARE EITHER NO INJURIES OR POSSIBLE INJURIES.
WITH MOST CRASHES USUALLY BEING EITHER THE BICYCLIST'S FAULT OR OCCURRING AT
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AN INTERSECTION WHERE SOMEONE GOES OUT INTO THE CROSSWALK AS A CAR PROCEEDS FROM A STOP TO AGO.TYPICALLY THEY ARE LESS INJURIES PER SE.
AS FAR AS THE INITIATIVES THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT UTILIZES TO ADDRESS PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLIST CRASHES.
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE RECEIVE GRANT FUNDING TO PROVIDE OFFICERS IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE TOWN, AND WHAT WE DO IS WE IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC ROADWAYS, THE SPECIFIC DAYS OF THE WEEK, AND HOURS OF THE DAY TO ASSIGN OFFICERS TO GO OUT AND DO EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGNS WHERE THEY WERE LITERALLY STOPPED FOLKS THAT ARE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET LIKE A MID-BLOCK CROSSING OR SOME PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE IS VIOLATION.
TYPICALLY, WE DO EDUCATION AND WARNING THROUGHOUT, BUT THROUGHOUT THE LATTER PART OF THE YEAR, IF WE FIND SOMEONE HASN'T REPEAT OFFENSE OR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REPEAT OFFENSES, SOMETIMES CITATIONS ARE ISSUED.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THOMAS OR COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS.
>> I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOU ALREADY EXPECTING TO COME BACK LATER THIS YEAR.
DID I NOTICE THE COUNTY IS IN FACT TAKEN WINTER PEAK TRAFFIC COUNTS ON INDIANTOWN? I THOUGHT I SAW THE BLACK TUBING.
>> I HAVEN'T NOTICED AND THIS IS RECENT?
>> YEAH, I THOUGHT A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK.
I DON'T NORMALLY GO THAT WAY BUT I'VE HAD A CHANGING, WHERE I GO TO WORK NOW.
I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK, BUT COULD YOU CHECK OUT? BECAUSE DID THEY DO THAT ONCE A YEAR OR IS IT EVERY OTHER YEAR?
>> WELL, FOR US, I KNOW THAT WE TYPICALLY DO IT EVERY OTHER YEAR.
I WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE-CHECK ON WHAT THE COUNTIES WHAT THEIR NORMAL [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE REASON I ASKED THAT IS BECAUSE IN YEARS PAST.
THIS IS A REPORT THAT WE GOT IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.
IT SOMEWHAT COMPETES WITH ANNUAL DATA WHICH IS IN HERE.
BUT THEN FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, PART OF THIS SAME STRATEGIC INITIATIVE IS TO REFRESH OUR RECOLLECTIONS AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE ROADWAY LEVEL OF SERVICE DEFICIENCY TRENDS.
WITHOUT THE DATA, WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT TONIGHT.
ASSUMING THAT THE COUNTY IS TAKING TRAFFIC COUNTS, IT WAS JUST I JUST NOTICED THAT ONE TIME AND I HAVEN'T.
MAYBE I MISREAD SOMETHING, BUT IF THEY ARE TAKING DATA, THEN BE VERY INTERESTED IN KNOWING HOW THAT THE TREND IS CHANGING SO WE CAN BE ADVISED ABOUT THAT THEN I'D EXPECT THAT IT COMES BACK FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION.
NOT TO REPEAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
BUT THEN YOU'D BE COMING BACK TARGETING FACTUAL TRAFFIC COUNTS AND HOW THE LEVEL OF SERVICE DEFICIENCY IS TRENDING.
WE'RE AWARE OF THAT, AND THEN WITH VISION ZERO, I STILL THINK IT'S NOT A BAD PRACTICE TO ALWAYS MAKE SURE ONCE A YEAR THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, AND I KNOW IT'S A DOWNSTREAM INDICATOR, BUT A VERY PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLIST FATALITY IN THE TOWN.
AGAIN, WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING GRANTED THROUGH ASKING THE FATALITY LAST WEEK HAD NOTHING YOU COULD DO ABOUT THAT IF SOMEBODY IS PULLING A U-TURN TO EVADE.
BUT IN SOME OTHER PLACES SOMETIMES THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE, AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PART OF OUR PROCESS.
IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE SHOULDN'T BE THINKING ABOUT IS WHERE THOSE ARE HAPPENING.
>> EVERY TIME THAT THERE IS A FATAL CRASH OR SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY COULD HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT TO IT, IT DOES COME TO THE ENGINEERING DIVISION TO READ WELL.
>> I KNOW IT DOES. YEAH. BECAUSE I STAYED IN TPA ON QUARTERLY BASIS, BUT I JUST WONDERING FOR US ON THE COUNCIL AS WE'RE CONSISTENT, ONCE A YEAR OR TWICE A YEAR, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
WE WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT ONE OF THIS YOU ALREADY COVERED IT OR THE PRIMARY CRASH INTERSECTIONS AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND I THINK WE HAD IT IN SOME PREVIOUS YEARS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE STANDARD.
YOU CAN GET IT IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER IF YOU COME BACK WITH THE TRAFFIC COUNT DATA.
THEN I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING, AND I'M NOT SURE IF CERTAINLY TWO OF MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE WEREN'T HERE ON COUNCIL WHEN WE GOT THIS.
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BUT CJ AND I UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS TAKE WORK.BUT IT WAS INTERESTING HE HAD A TRAFFIC CRASH RATE CURVE AND HE HAD CITIES ORDERED BY TOTAL TRAFFIC RATE, AND HE WAS DOING IT PRE-PANDEMIC VERSUS POST.
BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.
IF IT ISN'T THAT DIFFICULT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT THE DATA FROM OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S INTRIGUING ONE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE HE'D BENCHMARK.
YOU HAD THE GARDENS, BOCA, WEST PALM WHERE WE WERE, AND THAT'S NOT IN HERE.
I THINK MY COLLEAGUES MIGHT BENEFIT FROM SEEING THAT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S THAT ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT JANUARY 11TH ABOUT BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES ON THE RISE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY WELL DOWN IN BROWARD.
I KNOW OUR MAYOR HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THAT AND I WENT TO TPA.
BUT TO KNOW ARE WE PART OF THAT PROBLEM OR ARE WE LOWER THAN BENCHMARK FOR THOSE TYPES OF ACCIDENTS.
>> WITH REGARD TO THAT, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE.
BUT WITH REGARD TO THAT IS I WAS TRYING TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THAT, AND IF YOU ACTUALLY, MAYBE WE NEED TO GET THE ACTUAL CURVES BECAUSE I LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD HAVE MADE THE SAME OBSERVATION I DID, BUT NOBODY ELSE SEEMED TO, WAS THAT HE WAS STAGGERING THE CHANGE IN BROWARD WAS ONE YEAR.
WHEN I ASKED IF THAT AND CAUGHT HIM OFF GUARD, THE COMMENT WAS, WELL, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IMPROVEMENTS FOR YEARS.
WELL, NO, BUT EVERY YEAR THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANY IMPROVEMENTS.
I WOULD HYPOTHESIZE THAT THEY MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING WITH REGARD TO EDUCATION OR SOMETHING TO CHANGE BEHAVIORS.
IN FACT THAT SAME MEETING, I WAS SITTING NEXT TO ONE OF THE WEST PALM COMMISSIONERS.
THEY HAD MADE A SIGNIFICANT EDUCATIONAL EFFORT.
THEY HAVE MULTIPLE RAILROAD CROSSINGS.
THEY HAVE SO MANY OF THEM IN WEST PALM.
THEY REALLY HAD AN EDUCATION OF THING.
I BELIEVE THAT WHAT HAPPENED IN BROWARD, THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO PROMPT GO SEE WHAT THEY DID TO GET THIS ONE-YEAR SIGNIFICANT DROP.
YEAH, OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO IMPROVE IT, BUT WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY DO IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THAT TURN.
EDUCATION SUPPORT OF THIS HERE, AND WHEN YOU'RE SITTING ON THE TPA, YOU WANT TO LEARN FROM WHO'S DOING THE BEST, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE? WE DO EDUCATION AND WHATEVER.
I'M TALKING TO STAFF THAT KNOWS TO DO THAT, RIGHT?
>> CORRECT. WE DO THAT. STATISTICALLY SPEAKING OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE HAD THREE BICYCLIST FATALITIES, AGAIN, FROM 2018 TO 2022, AND WE'VE HAD SIX PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES.
TWO OF THEM LAST YEAR THAT WERE BOTH PEDESTRIANS FAULT.
I'D HAVE TO RESEARCH THE OTHER THREE FROM 2018 AND 2020.
THE NUMBERS ARE EXTREMELY SMALL FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
>> ONE THE INTERSECTIONS THAT CONCERNS ME QUITE A BIT IS CENTRAL BOULEVARD IN INDIANTOWN ROAD.
YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THERE ON BIKES.
THEY'VE TRIED TO JUST CROSS THOSE STREETS YOURSELF.
THERE'S JUST A LOT HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
YOU HAVE ALL THE CAR IS TURNING AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE PEDESTRIANS.
SOMEBODY COMES UP ON A BIKE, AND SO I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT MAYBE THAT'S AN AREA AT SOME POINT WE CAN TARGET FOR IMPROVEMENT.
THEY ARE TRYING TO CROSS THE ROAD MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET WHERE THEY'RE GOING, AND YOU END UP WITH A LOT OF POTENTIAL CONFLICTS.
LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN LUCKY WHERE WE HAPPEN TO HAVE THE FATALITIES THERE.
BUT TO ME IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S SOMETHING WAITING TO HAPPEN.
>> SEVERAL YEARS BACK, WE DID HAVE ONE FATALITY THERE.
AS A PEDESTRIAN WAS CROSSING, THEY WEREN'T CROSSING WITHIN THE CROSSWALK.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY CROSSING FURTHER WEST, JUST THROUGH SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC, AND RAISE A MEDIAN.
>> IN SUBCASES, THE COUNTY, THEY RUN A TRAFFIC SIGNALS, I THINK EXCEPT FOR BUSCH AND WEST PALM IS IT TO MUNICIPALITIES.
OTHERWISE, THEY DO EVERYTHING IN THE COUNTY.
WHEN YOU REALLY GO AND LOOK, THEY REALLY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
I THINK IN RECENT YEARS OF ADJUSTING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WHEN A PEDESTRIAN IS USING THE CROSSWALK SIGNAL BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE AT INDIAN CREEK PARKWAY AND MILITARY WHICH USED TO BE ON MY REGULAR ROUTE, THEY WILL ACTUALLY DELAY A GREEN SIGNAL OR NOT HAVE A GREEN SIGNAL IF SOMEBODY IS CROSSING WHICH IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE ACROSS MILITARY.
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BUT NONETHELESS, I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE PEDESTRIAN BUT THE DRIVERS STILL DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT.THAT'S WHAT WEST PALM DID DO EDUCATION ON, IS THEY'RE REALIZING THAT THE BACKUP AT AN INTERSECTION FOR A TRAIN COMING THROUGH AND CLEARING THEN EVERYBODY IS IN A RUSH TO GET THROUGH THAT.
THIS IS A BACKUP AND IF AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE A HIGH PEDESTRIAN INCIDENCE.
I GUESS EVER SINCE THERE WAS A TRAGIC PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENT ON DONALD ROSS ROAD AND I HAPPENED TO KNOW THE PERSON.
THIS WAS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, I'M REALLY MINDFUL AT INTERSECTIONS AND I DO THINK THAT DRIVERS DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THAT ON AN INDIANTOWN IN CENTRAL BOULEVARD, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A PEDESTRIAN AND GOT THE SIGNAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO TO IMPROVE THAT BUT THAT IS A PROBLEM.
HERE, THERE WAS A SIGNAL PROVIDED.
I SAW IT JUST IN THE LAST TWO DAYS AND A WEST PALM VEHICLE WANTED TO TURN NORTH ON CENTRAL BOULEVARD, DIDN'T SEE THE GUY GOING EAST LEGITIMATELY IN A CROSSWALK WHERE HE HAD THE SIGNAL.
THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT.
HOW DO WE MAKE THEM MORE VISIBLE? MAYBE PUT A FLASHER OR SOMETHING IN ADDITION, SOME TYPE OF FLASHING INDICATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I'M CERTAINLY AGREEING WITH COUNCILOR SNYDER'S OBSERVATION THAT WE'RE GETTING BETTER.
I SAW A PERSON STOP IF THEY HADN'T STOPPED THEY MIGHT'VE GOTTEN HIT.
>> IT HAS TO BE ON A SWIVEL WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON THOSE ROADS.
>> NO. BUT IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE MAKING A TURN MOVING, YOU REALLY HAVE TO REMEMBER THERE'S PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS, ANYWAY.
>> CAN WE DO WHAT THEY DO IN EUROPE AND HAVE THE RETRACTABLE BOARDS TO COME UP AND KEEP THE CARS FROM GOING THROUGH? [LAUGHTER] IT'S AN OPTION.
>> CARS ARE LOOKING AT THE STOPLIGHTS, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME TERRIBLE AND CITIES THERE HAD BEEN CHILDREN THAT WERE STRUCK BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT TURN.
YOU THINK YOU'RE FINE ON A RIGHT TURN AND THEN THE PEDESTRIAN WILL HAVE THE LIGHT BUT YOU CAN'T.
HOW DOES THAT HELP A DRIVER SEE BOTH THE LIGHT THAT APPLIES TO THEM, BUT THEY BOTH APPLY TO THEM, BUT THE PEDESTRIAN AS WELL BECAUSE IN TERMS OF HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW MILITARY TRAIL IS ALSO HARD WITH INDIANTOWN ROAD WHEN JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL GETS OUT.
WHEN I TURN RIGHT FROM PENNOCK AND GO DOWN INDIANTOWN AND THEN RIGHT ON MILITARY TRAIL, TONS OF PEDESTRIANS.
JAY WORKERS TRYING TO GET ACROSS INDIANTOWN ROAD TO GET HOME FROM SCHOOL.
THAT'S A REALLY DANGEROUS TIME TOO, SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE ALL PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AS OPPOSED TO YOU ARE.
ON THE REPORTS, TOWN ATTORNEY.
[TOWN ATTORNEY]
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS, AT YOUR NEXT MEETING THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WHICH I'VE STEPPED ASIDE BECAUSE OF PERCEIVED CONFLICTS, AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THOSE.
IT'S NOT REALLY LEGAL CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS.
IN THE FIRST CASE, IT INVOLVES THE MALLORY CREEK FENCES.
AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, I LIVE IN WINDSOR PARK ON THE SAME EASEMENT OR THE SAME ARRANGEMENT AND ALTHOUGH MR. DECICCO REFERENCED THIS EVENING THAT I HAVE CHANGED MY OPINION.
MY OPINION HAS REMAINED THE SAME SINCE 10 YEARS AGO WHEN THAT ISSUE FIRST CAME UP.
IT ACTUALLY FAVORS MR. DECICCO POSITION AND NOT THE ASSOCIATIONS.
BUT AS YOU ALSO SAW AT THE LAST MEETING, MR. DECICCO AND HIS FRIEND, ARE RATHER EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS ITEM.
AT SOME POINT, MY WIFE HAS BEEN APPROACHED BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN REGARDS WITH MY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS, AND AT THAT POINT I FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT I REMOVE MYSELF FROM THAT SITUATION.
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NOT SO MUCH THAT I'M CONCERNED FOR MYSELF, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT MY FAMILY MEMBERS APPROACHED BY INDIVIDUALS ABOUT THAT POSITION THAT I MAY HAVE TAKEN.ON THE SECOND ISSUE WHICH IS THE BEAR'S CLUB, MR. SELLERS HAS BEEN AN OPPONENT OF THE BEAR'S CLUB, THAT HE HAS A LITIGATED IN SOME LITIGATION WHICH MY PARTNERS [INAUDIBLE] DEFEND JACK NICKLAUS AND THE OTHER FOUNDING PARTNERS OF THE BEAR'S CLUB.
NOT RELATED TO ANYTHING THAT THE BEAR'S CLUB IS DOING IN REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT BUT IN RELATIONSHIP TO CLUB MEMBERSHIPS IN JACK'S PRESIDENCY OF THAT CLUB.
MR. HAWKINS WAS RETAINED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, AND SUBSEQUENTLY LAST YEAR, [INAUDIBLE] A VERY PROMINENT [INAUDIBLE] LAWYER IN THIS COUNTY, JOINED OUR FIRM MANY YEARS AGO AND HE HAD ALSO REPRESENTED THE BEAR'S CLUB IN SOME OF ITS DEVELOPMENT ISSUES BEFORE HE JOINED OUR FIRM AND ACTUALLY BEFORE I JOINED JOHN'S FOSTER AS A CONSULTANT.
I HAVE REALLY PUT MYSELF IN THE COUNCIL IN A POSITION WHERE PLAYERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU COULD CRITICIZE EITHER ONE OF US, MYSELF OR THE COUNCIL IN MY REPRESENTATION OF THE COUNCIL.
FOR BEING INVOLVED IN THOSE ISSUES, I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO STEP ASIDE AND HAVE A LAWYER WHOSE ALLEGIANCES COULD NOT BE QUESTIONED ABOUT IT.
I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT AND MR. KATKO WILL BE HERE NEXT MEETING AS WELL.
[TOWN MANAGER]
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON WHAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY WAS TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR ANYONE ON THIS COUNCIL TO EVER FEEL UNEASY ABOUT BEING APPROACHED BY SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY BASED ON [NOISE] SOME ACTION THAT YOU'VE TAKEN AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WHERE THINGS ARE VERY EMOTIONAL, BUT IF THAT EVER HAPPENS TO YOU, I WOULD STRONGLY URGE YOU TO IMMEDIATELY REACH OUT TO MYSELF OR GIVE THE CHIEF A CALL.
DON'T WAIT FOR THINGS TO ESCALATE OR GO UP A PATHWAY TO VIOLENCE.
JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS OF THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN TODAY'S WORLD, EMOTIONS RUN PRETTY HIGH, AND NOT EVERYTHING IS A COINCIDENCE.
I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS ON MY REPORT, MAYOR.
FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO BE THE BEARER OF GREAT NEWS, TO REMIND YOU THAT WE WILL BE HERE AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT FOR THE CRA MEETING [LAUGHTER] AND THAT STARTS AT 6:00.
THEN ALSO, WE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT THE TRASH CANS AND FITTING INTO THE GARAGE, WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRASH CAN DISTRIBUTION STARTED ABOUT TWO DAYS AGO AND WE'RE ABOUT 7% INTO THE DISTRIBUTION PROCESS WITH ABOUT ALMOST 1,500 CANS DISTRIBUTED ON OUR WAY TO A LITTLE OVER 20,000, AND SO KUDOS TO THOMAS FERNANDEZ AND HIS [NOISE] TEAM FOR WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.
I WENT DOWN THERE TODAY IT WAS LIKE TRASH CANS CENTRAL.
PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE FACILITATING THAT AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING THERE.
OTHER THAN THAT, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF CHRISTIAN GEORGE AND THE TEAM THAT DID TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THE JUPITER JUBILEE.
AGAIN, IT WAS ANOTHER GREAT EVENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE WEATHER DIDN'T STOP US AT ALL AND SO REALLY WELL ATTENDED, SO KUDOS TO ALL OF THOSE FOLKS.
ALSO, BUSINESS COMMUNITY LIAISON, AKA ROGER HELD, IS MOVING ALONG AT ABOUT 100 MILES AN HOUR.
WE HAVE A BUSINESS ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING COMING UP ON THE 15TH, AND IN YOUR WEEKLY REPORT YOU SAW A COPY OF THE FIRST EDITION OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER BUSINESS JOURNAL WHICH TALKS ABOUT HOW TO GET A HOLD OF ROGER, EXTENDING THE OLIVE BRANCH IF YOU WILL, AND IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT LEASING OR RENTING A SPACE TO START A BUSINESS, COME TALK TO ROGER, AND HE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY CRITICAL MISTAKES ALONG THOSE WAYS.
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THE EXPECTATIONS WERE VERY HIGH FOR THAT POSITION AND ROGER HAS EXCEEDED IT 100 TIMES OVER, SO REALLY GOOD ON HIS PART.IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, JUST A REMINDER THAT FOR THE BOATING COMMUNITY, THAT THE TOWN RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THIS WEEK FROM FDOT THAT THE US 1 BRIDGE PROJECT AND THE US 1 BRIDGE PROJECT TEAM THAT THE COAST GUARDS APPROVED FDOT'S REQUEST TO LOCK DOWN UNIONTOWN ROAD BRIDGE IN A DOWN POSITION DURING THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON RUSH HOURS, TEMPORARY CLOSING THE NAVIGATION CHANNEL UNDER THE BRIDGE TO MARINE TRAFFIC.
THE LOCK DOWN IS GOING TO BE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM 07:00 AM.
- 09:00 AM AND FROM 4:30 - 06:30 P.M. FROM MARCH 13TH UNTIL SEPTEMBER 7TH.
WE DO A LOT OF TALKING ABOUT DERELICT VESSELS, KUDOS TO THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM ON THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
THERE ARE TWO VESSELS WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER THAT ARE SUBMERGED, AND BOTH OF THESE VESSELS WERE AUTHORIZED BY FWC TO GET STARTED AND MOVE TO THE DERELICT VESSEL PROCESS.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING ON THAT PIECE.
THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UNDER UPCOMING EVENT WE HAVE COFFEE WITH A COP AT 2J'S DELHI FEBRUARY 9TH, FROM 9:00 -10:00.
SO THAT'S MY REPORT, MR. MAYOR.
>> SO WITH REGARDS TO THE LOCK DOWN BRIDGES,
[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]
I'D LIKE TO REALLY FOLLOW THAT CLOSELY BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR, THAT WAS ONE OF MY STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WAS TO GET THAT TO HAPPEN ON A PERMANENT BASIS.I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING I REALLY FELT THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN IN GENERAL.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT GOING ON.
THEN FLORA FROM DOUBLE ROADS REACH OUT TO ME TODAY, WANTED ME TO INVITE EVERYONE TO THE RIBBON CUTTING THIS FRIDAY AT 5:00. HE'S VERY EXCITED.
I THINK WE MAY HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL ON IT, BUT HE WANTED ME TO PERSONALLY INVITE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL TO BE THERE AND I'LL BE THERE.
IT'S A GREAT ESTABLISHMENT, AND ALSO SUPER BOWL IS COMING UP, AND GO EAGLES.
>> I WANT TO ROTATE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE, COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER.
>> THANK YOU. THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT HAD, I GUESS A PUBLIC SESSION A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SHORELINE AT TALONA AND THE THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO TRY TO PROTECT THE DUNES AND THE SEAGRASS THERE, AND I THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD POSSIBLY GET THEM TO COME IN AND DO A PRESENTATION TO US SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE HUGE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING.
THERE I THINK THE BROADER COMMUNITY SHOULD BE GIVEN A HEADS UP ABOUT THAT.
IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE THAT VERY MUCH.
>> JUST REAL QUICK. GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY AT THE JUBILEE AND THANKS TO CHRIS AND GEORGE AND THE STAFF FOR ANOTHER GREAT EVENT.
I THINK FRANKIE RATTLED WEATHER KEPT TOO MANY PEOPLE AWAY, SO I LIKE THAT ON THAT ONE. IT'S GREAT. NICE DAY.
>> I THINK THE MAYOR SKIPPED ME ON PURPOSE OR SOMETHING, BUT [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T MAKE THE RIBBON CUTTING, BUT I DID GO TO OPENING NIGHT AND THAT WAS A GREAT THING TO SEE, SO REALLY GOOD NEWS FOR THEM.
I ALSO JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO STAFF FOR THE JUPITER JUBILEE.
I HAD RESIDENTS APPROACH ME SAYING THIS WAS SO WELL ORGANIZED BETTER THAN USUAL EVENT AND THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO MIND THE RAIN AND THOMAS YOU MIGHT GET A KICK OUT OF THIS, BUT IT WAS SO FUNNY.
I SAW A BUNCH OF REALLY YOUNG BOYS WATCHING THE WASTE MANAGEMENT TRUCK.
TRASH PICKUP WILL NEVER BE THE SAME FOR A CERTAIN PART OF OUR DEMOGRAPHIC.
[LAUGHTER] THEY'RE GOING TO LOVE IT.
IT WAS JUST A REALLY GREAT EVENT.
I ENJOYED BEING AT THE TABLE GOING TO SPEAK TO RESIDENTS SO AT THE PACIFIC FAIR, JUST VERY WELL DONE.
THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK AND ALL THAT YOU DO FOR TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC MITIGATION.
IT'S ONLY GOING TO BECOME MORE IMPORTANT OVER THE YEARS, SO THANK YOU.
>> FEW ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, DITTO ON THE JUPITER JUBILEE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS FANTASTIC, ESPECIALLY FOR ME, BECAUSE AS I WAS REFLECTING ON WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE WERE AGONIZING, AS I SAID, AT THE MEETING WITH THE JUBILEE.
WE CREATED THAT EVENT TO PERPETUATE A SMALL TOWN FEEL.
AS I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ALSO, I THINK THAT THERE IS NO PLACE LIKE JUPITER AND HOLIDAY LIGHTING IS GOING TO BECOME ANOTHER TRADITION LIKE THAT.
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HAVING A SMALL TOWN FIELD DOESN'T MEAN CONTINUING TO DO NECESSARILY EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE BEFORE, BUT ADDING THINGS THAT STILL ARE LIKE A SMALL TOWN THING.IN THAT REGARD AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FOLLOW UP, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF ABOUT THIS.
LIKE A LIGHTHOUSE, THE FACT THAT THE DECORATIONS WERE STOPPED, AND I SAW THE REPRESENTATIVES EXPLANATION ON WHY BECAUSE DAMAGE OVER THE MANY YEARS ON HOW THINGS WERE ATTACHED TO HANDRAIL.
CAN STAFF GET WITH THEM? I CAN'T BELIEVE WE COULDN'T ENGINEER AN ATTACHMENT, SO THAT FROM THEN ON, WE COULD STILL RETURN THAT TRADITION.
I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M NEGLIGENT ON FOLLOWING UP ON THAT MYSELF, SO I'D ASK STAFF TO DO THAT BUT PROBABLY EVERYBODY SAW THAT THAT WAS THE EXPLANATION.
ENGINEERS IN THE ROOM? YOU COULD DO AN ATTACHMENT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT NEXT YEAR IT CAN RETURN.
LET'S TAKE AN ACTION. IT IS SOMETHING THAT TOWN HAS TO DO, I ASK THAT.
I'D LIKE TO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> REEDS THE WALKWAY ON THE TOP.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, I DON'T THINK THEY REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS.
>> WHATEVER, THE PROPERTY WAS A TIME OR TWO WHERE SOMEBODY DIDN'T DO IT PROPERLY.
WELL, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ATTACHMENT POINTS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE FELT A REAL SIGNIFICANT LOSS THIS YEAR.
THEN WE GOT THE EXPLANATION BUT THE EXPLANATION WAS WELL, WE CAN'T ALLOW IT ANYMORE AND I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
WHAT CAN THE TOWN DO SO THAT WE MAKE PROVISIONS SO IT CAN BE RETURNED NEXT YEAR? WE ALL WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I'M JUST ASKING, CAN WE REACH OUT ON THAT SEEMED LIKE YOU MAY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
>> JUST BY DIVINE PROVIDENCE I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE MY SON HAS A FIELD TRIP THERE AND WE HAVE THE UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE.
I WAS ALREADY PLANNING ON MEETING WITH THEM THIS FOLLOWING MONDAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE ON IT ALREADY, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC [LAUGHTER] THEY FELT A SIGNIFICANT LOSS THIS SEASON.
I'M NOT OVER THAT PART OF THE TOWN.
>> IT'LL BE CHRISTMAS BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
>> IT'LL BE THE HOLIDAY SEASON BEFORE WE KNOW IT.
>> IT'LL BE THE HOLIDAY SEASON. THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINITELY LOOK INTO AS WELL, CONSIDERING THE COMMENTS MADE THAT WHEN WE OUR DECLARATIONS NEXT YEAR, WE SPEAK TO THE COMPANY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE ALL OF THE HOLIDAY TRADITIONS.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, OVERLOOKED, NOT ON PURPOSE BY ANY [NOISE] WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
IT WAS JUST LET'S THROW UP SOME HOLIDAY DECORATIONS AND WHAT WAS PROVIDED WAS WHAT WAS PROVIDED SO WE STARTED GIVE COMMENTS TO THAT.
>> I HAD EVEN ASKED OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE A CONCERN AND YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S REPRESENTED.
SOME THEY'D JUST DECORATE THE CLOCK TOWER OR THE PALM TREES.
IT'S A MORE GENERIC THING TOO.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE HOLIDAY SEASON, IT'S A SEASON FOR ALL.
>> WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT.
I THINK THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT WAS MAYBE NOTICED ALL THE LIGHTS WERE GENERIC. THERE WERE JUST.
>> YEAH. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
>> I THINK THE LIGHTHOUSE THING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAD NO MORE LIGHTS LEFT IN TOWN BECAUSE SOMEBODY PUT THEM ON THEIR HOUSE. [LAUGHTER]
>> LIKEWISE. I'M GOING TO SAY REGARDING THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS, WE NEVER GOT THE BANNERS PUT UP ALONG THE ROADWAYS THAT I EVER NOTICED.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT INITIALLY, THEY COULDN'T BE PUT UP BECAUSE FDOT HADN'T APPROVED THEM.
COULD STAFF JUST GET BACK WITH THE COUNCIL ON THAT BECAUSE THAT LINE ITEM THEN OF HOLIDAY MATTERS BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO EXTEND ON A NUMBER OF ROADWAYS.
I NEVER SAW THAT AND I THINK THAT WAS MISSING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE RAN INTO WITH FDOT,
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WE RESOLVE IT EARLIER BEFORE NEXT SEASON ROLLS AROUND, AND I TRUST WE GOT CREDIT FOR NO BANNERS BEING PUT UP, BUT IT WAS ALONG A NUMBER OF ROADWAYS.I'M ANXIOUS ON THE TRASH CAN AND BY THE WAY.
I GUESS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE GUIDANCE ON WHAT YOU DO IS THE OTHER ONE I'M CURIOUS WHAT THAT GUIDANCE IS GOING TO BE.
I'LL SHOW YOU THAT LEST YOU WANT TO ANSWER BUT I SAW WHERE THEY'RE STARTING TO GO OUT AND WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO THEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO OUR OWN CANS.
THAT'S A LOT OF CANS TO THROW AWAY.
>> YOU JUST GIVE A SOCIAL MEDIA UPDATE ON THAT.
>> YEAH. I SAW IT THE OTHER DAY.
>> THERE HAS BEEN INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN DISSEMINATED AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR SOME FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY RELATIONS HAS ALSO RECEIVED SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.
THEY CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THEIRS AS WELL BUT IF THERE IS ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE THEIR OLD CAN, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THEIR YARD WASTES [OVERLAPPING] OR IF THEY'D LIKE TO REPURPOSE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
OTHERWISE, IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO NOT KEEP YOUR CURRENT CAN THAT YOU HAVE, WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU THAT YOU PLACED A NOTE ON IT.
MORE OR LESS DENOTING THAT IT IS TRASH AND THEY WILL COME AROUND AND PICK UP AND IDEALLY ON YOUR BULK DAY.
>> I STILL THOUGHT WASTE MANAGEMENT WAS RIDICULOUS THAT COULD EVEN SAVE MONEY BECAUSE TOWARD TRASH CAN WHICH IS FULLY COMPLIANT.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW LIKE AN AVOCADO OR THAT HAVE THOSE.
BUT THEY WERE STUBBORN ABOUT AT WASTE MANAGEMENT CHANEL PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE PERFECTLY GOOD TRASH CANS THAT COULD LAST ANOTHER DECADE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE LANDFILLED.
ANYWAY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING WITH THEM.
JUST LASTLY, AND I DON'T WANT TO NOT TO BELABOR, BUT JUST TO BRING UP WE HAD AN ITEM BEFORE US TONIGHT ON WITHIN WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH I KNOW WE ALL HATE HER SUPPORT.
WE KNOW OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOT TO FIT AND ALL THAT.
BUT THE THING THAT GOT ME ON THAT PROJECT AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO IT WHEN THE PUBLIC WAS HERE.
BUT WE HAD THE FEW RESIDENTS HAD DID RIGHT IN THAT WERE SUPPORTED THE PROJECT THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING RATES.
SO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE 30 OF THEM AT $3000-3,500 A MONTH.
SO I THINK GOING FORTH, WE WANT TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH STAFF ABOUT THAT.
LIKE YOU CAN'T LABEL THE PROJECT WORKFORCE HOUSING WHEN ONLY A SMALL FRACTION OF IT IS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO TO ME THAT'S WHAT WAS MISSING ABOUT IT.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORKFORCE HOUSING, MUCH GREATER RATE.
I WAS CHECKING. I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS THAT OWN HOUSING THREE-BEDROOM TOWN HALL OF PROBABLY ABOUT THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THINKING ABOUT THAT FOR A MONTHLY.
IT'S CRAZY. BUT ANY EVENT, I'M NOT LABELING THE CONVERSATION.
I'M JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT WHEN PEOPLE WERE HERE.
SO IT WOULD APPEAR LIKE WE'RE DEBATING IT, WE'RE NOT.
I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT ALL OF [OVERLAPPING] THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR ME.
IT WAS TRAFFIC. IT'S OBVIOUS TO THE WHOLE TOWN THAT BUSH ROAD HAS A MAJOR ISSUE OF TRAFFIC.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE.
>> I'M SORRY I BROUGHT THAT UP.
>> NO, IT'S OKAY. I'M OKAY TALKING ABOUT WE JUST HAVE TO, IT'S A TRICKY SITUATION GOING FORWARD WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING.
>> IT WAS A DECENT PROJECT. IT JUST DIDN'T FIT.
>> OKAY. WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW 10:15 AND WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.