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IT IS TIME TO CALL TO ORDER THE JANUARY 10TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE?
COMMISSIONER JOHN WEISMAN, AND COMMISSIONER RICHARD DUNNING.
>> THANK YOU. NOW WE COME TO THE PART
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OF THE MEETING WHERE WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR DECEMBER MEETING.DECEMBER 13TH. DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
WE GO TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
THIS IS THE PART OF THE MEETING WHERE WE GIVE CITIZENS THREE MINUTES TO TELL US WHAT'S ON THEIR MIND.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO WISH EVERYBODY HAPPY NEW YEAR.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS? I'M GOING BY THE OLD ONE. SORRY.
>> THANK YOU. THEN WE WILL MOVE
[B1. 550 Bush Road]
ON TO OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT FOR 550 BUSH ROAD A SMALL-SCALE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
WAIT, DO WE HAVE TO SWEAR IN OUR EXPARTE? ANYBODY WISHING TO TESTIFY TONIGHT NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
>> SHE'S A NOTARY, SO SHE'S GOING TO DO THE SWEARING IN.
[LAUGHTER] DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR UNDER THE PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS MATTER IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> THANK YOU. WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FIRST, CORRECT?
>> HELLO, EVERYBODY. HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? GOOD EVENING. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
>>I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A STATUTE LIMITATIONS ON IT.
I KNOW TODAY'S JANUARY 10TH, BUT NEVER.
IT'S STILL JANUARY NEVERTHELESS.
MY NAME IS MILES RICH AND I'LL BE PRESENTING SEA GLASS TOWN HOMES.
WE RECENTLY CAME UP WITH THAT NAME, AND IT IS LOCATED AT 550 BUSH ROAD.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY, THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED SO FAR.
>> CAN WE GET THAT MICROPHONE CLOSER?
>> I'LL GET STARTED. THE PROJECT IS ON 2.9 ACRES.
IT'S CURRENTLY A CHURCH AND A HOME, SO THERE'S TWO STRUCTURES ON THE PROJECT.
IT'S A SANCTUARY THAT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY UNITY CHURCH.
AND IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE THAT IS ALSO OCCUPIED BY A SINGLE FAMILY.
THE TOWN HALLS WILL CONSIST OF THREE BEDROOMS, 2.5 BATHROOMS. WE HAVE A 1,465 SQUARE FOOT UNDER AIR.
PART OF THE PROJECT WE ARE PROVIDING FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE APPLICANT OR THE DEVELOPER.
I REPRESENT RICH PROPERTIES, WHICH IS A FULL VERTICALLY INTEGRATED DEVELOPER.
WE BUILD AND WE MANAGE OUR OWN PROPERTIES.
WE'VE BUILT OVER 2,000 UNITS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND PORT SAINT LUCY, PALM BEACH COUNTY, FORT MYERS, JACKSONVILLE.
WE'RE IN TALLAHASSEE AND WE PLAN ON CONTINUING ON A REALLY STEADY PRESENCE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
WE ARE LOCALS TO PALM BEACH COUNTY.
WE LIVE HERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PROJECT IN JUPITER.
OUR SUBJECT REQUEST, WE'RE REQUESTING A SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF 35 UNITS.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL HAVE A PRIVATE ROAD, A POOL, AND A LEASING OFFICE.
THE COMMUNITY AGAIN, TO REITERATE, WILL BE PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED BY RICH PROPERTIES.
THERE ARE THREE ZONING PERMITS, THE USE OF TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, AND WE EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS OF GREEN SPACE SETBACKS,
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PARKING, AND WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SIDE OF 15 FEET, AS WELL AS A 10 FOOT BUFFER ALONG BUSH ROAD.THE LAND USE RIGHT NOW IS R-3.
THE FUTURE LAND USE IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS LITTLE PICTURE, THE HIGHLIGHTED ORANGE BOX. LET'S SEE HERE.
YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH, AND WEST IS ALL THE SAME ZONING R3, WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL INTEGRATE SEAMLESSLY WITH THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT DUE TO THE SONY MAP.
AND IF YOU WENT ON SATELLITE VIEW, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PLENTY OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOMES AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA.
THIS IS THE BASIC DENSITY CALCULATION CHART, HOW I CAME UP WITH 35 UNITS ALONGSIDE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND SUPPORT.
WE HAVE A BASE DENSITY OF SIX UNITS PER ACRE ON A 2.93 ACRE PIECE.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S 17.5, AS WELL AS THE SMALL-SCALE PUD BONUS, WHICH ALLOWS US TO TAKE TWO UNITS PER ACRE.
A WORKFORCE HOUSING BONUS, WHICH ALLOWS US TO GET 65 PERCENT OF THE BASE DENSITY, WHICH COMES OUT TO 3.9 UNITS PER ACRE.
THAT'S HOW WE COME UP WITH 35 UNITS.
THE PARKING, I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THIS ISN'T MY FIRST TIME AT A CITY PRESENTATION AND I'VE BEEN IN DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES BEFORE.
I KNOW PARKING IS A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT.
I AM PREPARED TO DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WORK WITH STAFF, WITH COMMISSIONERS, WITH THE NEIGHBORS REGARDING PARKING, BUT WE ARE PROVIDING AMPLE AMOUNT OF PARKING.
THIS CHART HERE, I DON'T WANT TO WALK THROUGH EACH LINE ITEM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE 96 PARKING SPACES TOTAL 70 RESIDENTS SPACES AND 26 GUEST SPACES.
WE DO INCLUDE THE GARAGES, PART OF THAT PARKING CALCULATION AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS.
WE HAVE THESE RESTRICTIONS IN ALMOST ALL OUR PROPERTIES, OUR NEW PROPERTIES, TO BE CLEAR.
THEN THE NEWER PROPERTIES, SINCE PARKING HAS BECOME AN ISSUE, WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS LIKE GARAGES, SHOPPING FOR PARKING ONLY.
SINCE THIS IS A RENTAL COMMUNITY WERE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT THROUGH OUR LEASE AND PROPERTY INSPECTIONS.
WE DO THAT. WE DO PROPERTY INSPECTIONS.
GARAGES MAY NOT BE CONVERTED INTO HABITABLE SPACES, OF COURSE, ONLY USED FOR STORAGE.
PART OF THE DESIGN OF THE FLOOR PLAN, I'M SURE EVERYONE GOT A PACKET OF PLANS.
IF ANYONE WAS ABLE TO SEE THIS FLOOR PLANS, WE DID INTEGRATE PLENTY OF STORAGE, IN MY OPINION, IN THE GARAGE ITSELF, AS WELL AS SHORTLY AFTER THE ENTRY DOOR UNDERNEATH THE STAIRCASE, WE HAVE STORAGE.
WERE PROVIDING 18 SQUARE FOOT, CLOSET STORAGE.
THE GARAGE IS DESIGNED FOR NOT ONLY A TRASH CAN AND RECYCLING BINS, BUT BICYCLE PARKING, AND IN STORAGE IF WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT SHELVES, WHETHER ITS WALL MOUNT OR FLOOR MOUNT, THERE'S ROOM IN THAT GARAGE.
THE TRASH WILL BE PICKED UP BY WASTE MANAGEMENT VIA CURBSIDE PICKUP.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC BENEFITS NOW, WHICH JUSTIFIES THE SMALL SCALE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
THE FIRST PUBLIC BENEFIT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ITS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I WORKED CLOSELY WITH STEPHANIE, MARTY, PETER, AND THEY HELPED ME COME UP WITH THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING ELEMENT, WHO WE'RE GOING TO BE LEASING OUT THE FIVE UNITS TO, WHO'S GOING TO BE LIVING IN THESE UNITS? WHAT INCOME LEVEL? YOU CAN SEE HERE I HIGHLIGHTED FOR EASY REFERENCE THE INCOME LEVEL THAT WE'LL BE PROVIDING.
ON THE CHART TO THE RIGHT, THIS IS THE TOWN OF JUPITER CHART THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME WHICH SHOWS THE INCOME LIMIT FOR A FAMILY IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, AS WELL AS AT THE VERY BOTTOM, IT SHOWS THE MAXIMUM MONTHLY RENT THAT WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE UNITS.
IN YELLOW IS THE 61 PERCENT AMI FAMILY.
WE WILL BE PROVIDING FOUR OF THE FIVE UNITS TO THE VERY LOW INCOME, WHICH IS THE 61 PERCENT COLUMN.
THE LAST, THE FIFTH ONE UNIT WILL BE PROVIDED TO MODERATE INCOME LEVEL, WHICH IS UP TO 81 PERCENT OF THE AMI.
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YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM THERE THE RENTAL LIMITS FOR A 81 PERCENT AMI, $1,740 A MONTH.THEN THE FOUR UNITS FOR THE LOW, $1,285 A MONTH.
ANOTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT PART OF OUR SMALL-SCALE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS THE GREEN BUILDING TECHNIQUE AND GREEN BUILDING THEORY.
WE HIRED A CONSULTANT, ECGS, AND WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM TO ATTAIN A SILVER-LEVEL CERTIFICATION.
WE'RE GETTING OUR CERTIFICATION THROUGH THE FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION, FGBC, AND I RECENTLY DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK ON IT AND LEARNED MYSELF AND I LEARNED THAT MOST OF THE GREEN THEORIES AND TECHNIQUES THAT THE FGBC USES, WE ALREADY INTEGRATED IN OUR UNITS NOW SO WE DON'T FORESEE ANY ISSUES BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS AT ALL.
WE WERE EXCITED FOR IT AND WE'RE HAPPY IT'S PART OF THE PROJECT.
PART OF THE GREEN BUILDING THEORY IS JUST FOR SOME EXAMPLES, IS WATER USAGE, WATER EFFICIENCY, EFFICIENT PLUMBING FIXTURES, WE HAVE ELECTRICAL FIXTURES THAT ELECTRICITY EFFICIENCY, WE ALSO HAVE A PART OF THE SITE.
THERE'S SOME POINTS THAT WE GET FOR THE WALKABILITY AND TRANSPORTATION AND THE BIKE RACKS.
WE ALSO HAVE NATIVE PLANTS AND TREES, OF COURSE, THAT'S ALL PART OF THE FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION AND THE WAY WE ATTAIN THE SILVER LEVEL CERTIFICATION, AS WELL AS THE WINDOWS AND THE AC UNITS.
IT GETS TO THE NITTY-GRITTY ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES BEING A LIGHTER COLOR SO THEY DON'T ABSORB AS MUCH HEAT.
THOUGH AC UNITS DON'T HAVE TO WORK AS HARD AS WELL AS THE INSTALLATION IN THE ATTIC IS A SPECIAL INSULATION THAT ALLOWS THE BUILDING JUST TO BE EFFICIENT.
JUST THIS IS A QUICK CONCLUSION.
AGAIN, WE'RE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE.
YOU'RE TALKING TO THE MAIN PERSON.
I'M NOT REPRESENTING ANYBODY, I'M NOT WGI, I'M HERE.
WE'RE FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED BUSINESS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DEVELOPING THIS PROJECT IN JUPITER.
I REALLY BELIEVE IN THIS TOWN AND I LOVE IT.
NOW I JUST WANT TO SCROLL THROUGH SOME PHOTOS AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
EVERYONE, I HOPE THEY GOT THIS PRESENTATION.
IF NOT, I CAN EMAIL IT BUT THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN.
IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND BUT THAT'S THE FIRST FLOOR AND YOU'VE GOT THE GARAGE IN UPPER RIGHT-HAND SIDE AND YOU CAN SEE THE GARAGE BUMPS OUT.
LET ME SEE HERE. THE GARAGE BUMPS OUT RIGHT HERE WHERE THE MOUSE IS AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PROVIDING STORAGE.
THEN MY ARCHITECT SHOWS A CAR HERE AS WELL AS A TRASH AND RECYCLING BINS TOWARDS THE WALL THAT SEPARATES THE GARAGE AND THE LIVING SPACE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS CARVE-OUT RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA IS ALL FOR STORAGE, IT'S NOTHING ELSE.
IT'S EMPTY SPACE FOR HOWEVER THE RESIDENT PLEASES TO USE IT.
THEN WE HAVE AN OPEN-CONCEPT FLOOR PLAN, WHICH IS VERY POPULAR IN THE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AND THE STAIRCASE AND THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR.
WE HAVE A FAIRLY WIDE AND ONE OF THE BEDROOMS OR LESS THAN NINE FEET AND NINE FEET, EIGHT INCHES IS OUR NARROWEST BEDROOM, SO ALMOST 10 FEET WIDE.
THESE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS. I ALSO HAVE SOME RENDERINGS TOO AND I HAVE THE COLOR BOARD HERE BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS BUILDING 4 AND YOU COULD SEE IF YOU WANT TO GLANCE BACK-AND-FORTH TO THE COLOR BOARD BUT THE GREEN IS THERE IN THE CENTER AND THE UPPER LAYER OF THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS THE COLUMNS AS YOU CAN SEE, THE COLUMNS ALONG THE LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE.
THIS PEACH COLOR IS YOUR BOTTOM LEFT COLOR AT THE VERY BOTTOM LEFT AND THE GARAGE AND THE MAIN WALL IS THAT WHITE AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
THEN YOU HAVE THE TRIM WHICH IS JUST TO YOUR LEFT OF THE BOTTOM-RIGHT, WHICH IS A GRAY AND THAT'S THE TRIMS WHICH GOES ON THE ARCHES HERE.
YOU HAVE LITTLE BANDS HERE ABOUT THE FRONT DOORS.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE NEXT BUILDING.
JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, ALL THE COLORS, EVERY BUILDING GETS THE BOTTOM COLORS.
THOSE FOUR, THAT'S PART OF THE BUILDINGS I LABELED WHAT THEY ARE.
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THEN THE TOP THREE OR THE SECOND WALL COLORS BASICALLY BECAUSE WE KNOW STAFF MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE LIKE DIVERSITY HERE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND WE DON'T WANT ALL THE BUILDINGS LOOK THE SAME.IN ORDER TO DO THAT, NOT ONLY ARE WE DOING DIFFERENT COLORS BUT WE ALSO CHANGED, SOME OF THE BUILDINGS HAVE HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING AND SOME OF THEM DON'T AND SOME OF THEM HAVE THEM IN DIFFERENT AREAS LIKE THE COLUMNS ARE CITED ON ONE BUILDING AND THEN THE OTHER BUILDING, THE WALLS ARE CITED SO VICE VERSA.
WE HAVE SIGHTING ON EVERYTHING BUT IT'S JUST WHERE IT IS.
THESE ARE THE TOP THREE COLORS, THOSE ARE JUST THE DIFFERENT COLOR OF THE BUILDINGS.
THIS IS THE GREEN ONE, THAT'S THE ONE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THE COLOR BOARD IS I WANTED YOU GUYS TO SEE THE COMPUTER DOESN'T DO IT JUSTICE.
LASTLY IS THE BLUE, WHICH IS MY FAVORITE, AND I'VE USED THIS BLUE COLOR BEFORE AND I LOVE IT.
I THINK I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE CLUBHOUSE.
THIS IS JUST A QUICK ELEVATION OF THE CLUBHOUSE.
THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND JUST IN CASE WE NEEDED A REFERENCE OF THAT AND EITHER SOME RENDERINGS WE RECENTLY GOT FROM THE ARCHITECT.
NO ONE HAS SEEN THESE RENDERINGS YET, I JUST GOT THESE COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND I HAVE A COUPLE MORE BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT'S A CONCEPTUAL OF THE SITE, THE ENTRYWAY, AND THE ROADWAY.
THEN ANOTHER PICTURE ONES, THAT'S THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THE LEASING OFFICE, EXCUSE ME.
THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE TOWNHOME BUILDING.
NOW, WE HAVE FROM PETER MEYER FROM THE TOWN'S PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
I THINK DISCLOSURE IS AFTER PETER.
THANK YOU, I WAS GOING TO REMIND YOU.
[INAUDIBLE] YEAH, YOU CAN TAKE IT.
I DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THE FLOW.
SENIOR PLANNING FOR STAFF FOR THE RECORD, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SMALL-SCALE PUD TOOK US TWO UNITS PER ACRE INCREASE IN DENSITY IN A SITE PLAN APPLICATION TO CONSTRUCT 35 MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS ENTRY REQUIRES A WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OUTLINED IN EXHIBIT 1.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A SINGLE LAW THAT IS 2.93 ACRES AND WILL BE A RENTAL COMMUNITY.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN DENSITY FROM 6-11.9 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, THROUGH THE USE OF TWO TYPES OF DENSITY BONUSES.
THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY IS PERMITTED THROUGH POLICY 1.3, 0.4, OBJECTIVE 1.3 OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND POLICY 1.2, 0.11 B OF OBJECTIVE 1.2 THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WHICH PROVIDES FOR DENSITY BONUS INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THE PROPERTY HAS A RESIDENTIAL HIGH DENSITY LAND USE DESIGNATION AND R3 ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A BASE DENSITY, IS SIX UNITS PER ACRE.
BASED ON THE ACREAGE OF THE SITE, A TOTAL OF 18 UNITS ARE PERMITTED.
THE APP IS REQUESTING TWO UNIT PER ACRE INCREASE IN DENSITY AS PART OF THE SMALL-SCALE PUD, WHICH WILL ADD A TOTAL OF SIX UNITS TO THE SITE.
ALSO, THE EPC IS REQUESTING A WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS, WHICH IS 65 PERCENT OF THE BASE DENSITY PERMITTED BY THE LAND USE DESTINATION.
THIS WILL ADD 11 UNITS TO THE SITE.
A TOTAL OF 17 UNITS WILL BE ADDED TO THE SITE THROUGH DENSITY BONUSES.
THE EPC THAT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS TO THE ZONING CODE.
THE EPC IS PROPOSING TO THE SIX PUBLIC BENEFITS LISTED IN SECTION 27-1709B AT THE FORDIST MOSCOW PUD.
FIRST PUBLIC BENEFIT AS A GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM.
THE ACRE IS PROVIDING TO ACHIEVE THE SILVER LEVEL CERTIFICATION WITH A FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION AS REQUIRED BY CODE.
THIS IS THE THIRD PROJECT IN TOWN TO UTILIZE A GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM THAT TO OTHER PROJECTS SUCCESSFULLY TO SEE THEIR CERTIFICATION.
ONE IS THE VAD AND MARTY TOWN HOMES OVER AN OLD PATCH UP TROUT ARE ONES THAT BOYD MEDICAL CENTER ON INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THE INTENT OF THE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM IS TO ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABLE CONSTRUCTION, WATER EFFICIENCY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS SELECTIONS, AND APPROVED INDOOR ENVIRONMENT QUALITY FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT,
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WE DEVELOPED AN INFIELDER PROJECTS.STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS THAT APPROVAL TO PRIORITIZE AND ADD CERTIFICATION POINTS, WHICH INCLUDE NOT PROPOSING TURF AND DENSITY SHADED AREAS, REPLANT OR DONATE TO REMOVE VEGETATION, PRESERVE OR CREATE WILDLIFE HABITAT, SHELTER, AND REUSE CLEAR MATERIAL FOR SMALL LANDSCAPE.
ALSO, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HAS BEEN ADDED TO ACQUIRE US THE MIDDLE OF AN AREA OF VOCAL LETTER OF CREDIT EQUALING A MINIMUM OF FIVE PERCENT OF THE TOTAL ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF THE PROJECT AS REQUIRED BY THE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM.
IN ADDITION, WITHIN 12 MONTHS, AND THEY'RE SEATED LAST CEO, THEY ARE MUST SUBMIT THE SILVER LEVEL CERTIFICATION FROM THE FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION.
SECOND, THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT IS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THE EPC PROPOSAL ONE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNIT, TOTAL OF FIVE OR 4,000 UNITS ARE PROPOSED.
ONE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNIT IS TO MEET THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT AT THE LOW INCOME LEVEL.
THREE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS, FOR THE DENSITY INCREASES FOR THE LOW-INCOME LEVEL.
ONE IMPORTANT BENEFIT WORKFORCE, IT WOULD BE FINE AT THE MODERATE LOW INCOME LEVEL.
IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS ARE PROPERLY ADMINISTERED AND AVAILABLE TO CORRESPONDING INCOME ELIGIBLE, HOUSEHOLDS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS CONDITIONAL APPROVAL TO ACQUIRE COVENANTS, ADMINISTRATION ENFORCEMENT THAT MAINTAIN THE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.
STAFF DETERMINER TIMEFRAME PUDDLE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I AM OUT OF ORDER, BUT I WILL TAKE EX PARTE DISCLOSURES FROM THE COMMISSIONERS NOW.
COMMISSIONER FORD, YOU WANT TO START OFF?
>> I'M JUST DROVE BY THE LOCATION.
>> [NOISE] EXCUSE ME. DROVE BY THE LOCATION, LOOKED AT IN A GOOGLE MAPS AND ALSO TALK TO PETER ABOUT THIS AWESOME.
>> I DROVE BY THE PROPERTY AND ALSO VIEWED IT ON GOOGLE EARTH.
>> DROVE BY THE SITE AND SPOKE WITH JOHN SICKLER.
>> I WENT AND DROVE BY THE SITE, I CHECKED STUFF UP ON GOOGLE MAPS, AND I SPOKE WITH PETER.
>> LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY IN THE DISCLOSURES, IF YOU DISCLOSED THAT YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF FOR ADVOCATE, YOU NEED TO SAY WHAT THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT.
I SPOKE ABOUT LIKE LAST MEETING I SAID I SPOKE CHERYL STEINER ABOUT WAIVERS AND BONUS, PUBLIC BENEFIT, WHATEVER.
>> MY DISCLOSURES, I SPOKE TO PETER ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING, THE CODE INVOLVED IN GREEN BUILDING PARKING, AND THE GREEN BUILDING MITIGATION FEE.
>> I SPOKE WITH JOHN ABOUT WHETHER THERE WAS ADEQUATE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON BUSH AND ANTONI PENA FOR THE CONTEMPLATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THEY WERE DISCUSSED AND ALSO THE HOW COMMON THE BIOSWALE THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN OTHER PROJECTS AND JUPITER.
>> I TALKED TO PETER ABOUT THE PROPOSED DENSITY REQUIREMENTS, AND ALSO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, ALSO THE ADA REQUIREMENTS, AND THE QUESTION ABOUT POSSIBLE PRECEDENTS THAT IT MIGHT HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK IN ORDER NOW.
[LAUGHTER] I WANT TO COME TO THE PART OF THE MEETING WHERE WE ASK QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF OR APPLICANT.
>> SURE. I HAD ASKED PETER THE QUESTION BECAUSE ON THE STAFF REPORT, THEY WERE ONLY SHOWING SIX GUESTS PARKINGS, AND THE REST WAS SHARED.
BUT THE APPLICANT HAS NOW VERIFIED THAT THEY WILL ALL BE TOWARDS GUESS PARKING.
HE PUT 26 IN THIS APPLICATION.
>> CORRECTLY WON'T BE RESERVED, ONLY FOR GUESTS PARKING AND RESIDENT PARKING.
>> PETER CAN THE UNITS BE CONDOMINIUMS?
>> THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TO CHANGE A FERMENTER CONDOMINIUM.
>> ARE WE AS PART OF THE GREEN BUILDING REQUIREMENT, ARE WE PUTTING SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES SO THAT IN THE FUTURE REMAINS THE SAME BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE CODE, ACQUIRES A RE-CERTIFICATION PROGRAM FOR IT.
ONCE THEY RECEIVE A CERTIFICATION, THAT'S OUR CODE REQUIRES.
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>> IN ADDITION, FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION IT DOESN'T EXPIRE, SO YOU DON'T REQUIRE THE RE-CERTIFICATION.
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, IF THIS APPLICANT, BECAUSE IT'S A RENTAL COMMUNITY, IS MOTIVATED TO ENSURE LOWER ENERGY EFFICIENT, HIGHER ENERGY EFFICIENCY, LOWER BILLS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
BUT IF IT GOES CONDOMINIUM OR FEE SIMPLE, THEN THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WILL NEED TO OCCUR AND WHY IT WOULD NEED TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BECAUSE THERE ARE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT MIGHT COME UP TO PLAY.
>> OR EVEN IN A RENTAL APART, I THINK THE NON WORKFORCE HOUSING, SOME OF THE RENTERS THAT ARE PAYING PREMIUM COULD GO IN AND CHANGE BATHROOM FIXTURES.
THEY COULD CHANGE CERTAIN THINGS WHICH WOULD AFFECT THEORETICALLY THE CALCULATIONS OF THE GREEN BUILDING.
STEPS ON MR. LEE SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THAT STUFF IS NOT CHANGEABLE.
THEY COULD FALL OUT OF COMPLIANCE OF WHAT THAT GREEN BUILDING STANDARD IS.
>> THEN I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED SPECIFIC GREEN BUILDING PRIORITY ON SITE AND LANDSCAPE PROVISIONS THAT ARE MORE VISIBLE TO THE OUTSIDE AND DON'T RELY AS HEAVILY ON THE INTERIOR SO THE APPLICANT COULD RE-PRIORITIZE THEIR CERTIFICATION LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU SO THAT THOSE THINGS THAT ARE INSIDE LIKE ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
>> THAT STUFF. ISN'T RELIED UPON SO HEAVILY SO LONG AND THEN WE MAINTAIN THE THINGS LIKE CREATING MORE HABITAT, HAVING PRESERVING THE TREES ON-SITE, MAINTAINING THE MULCH ON THE PROPERTY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE PHYSICAL AND ON THE OUTSIDE THAT CAN BE INSURED FOR COMPLIANCE BY THE TOWN.
>> STAFF HAS PUT A CONDITION OF A GREEN BUILDING MITIGATION FEE IN CASE THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HIT THE GREEN STANDARDS UPON CONSTRUCTION, DID THE STAFF TO ASCERTAIN WHAT THOSE FEES ARE?
>> I BAR RAISE AT THE QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT, HE MAY HAVE INFORMATION TONIGHT.
>> I ACTUALLY, I THINK I WANT A SOURCE THAT TO THE CODE THAT I WAS GIVEN.
I THINK IT'S IN THE GREEN BUILDING CODE.
THERE'S LIKE THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
ONE IS THE SCENARIO IF THE DEVELOPER, IF THE BUILDER CANNOT ACHIEVE THE GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATION WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF CO, THEN I THINK THAT THE IRREVOCABLE LETTER OF CREDIT IS LIKE FORFEITED ALMOST, AND THERE'S TWO OTHER ONES.
THE QUESTION IS YOU'RE PUTTING A CONDITION.
IF YOU'RE PUTTING A CONDITION, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT AMOUNT THAT'S RELYING UPON THE APPLICANT TO LIVE.
I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST OF THE PROJECT, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S THE FIVE PERCENT OF THAT IS.
>> THE CODE STATES THAT IT'S FIVE PERCENT OF TOTAL CONSTRUCTION, COST?
>> I HAVEN'T NUMBERED SO I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER.
>> THAT'S FINE. AT LEAST YOU HAVE A FORMULA THAT'S THERE.
>> THIS IS TO APPLICANT, YOU'RE STATING THAT THE GARAGE WILL BE USED FOR ONE CAR BECAUSE, STORAGE SPACE'S PROVIDED, HOW ARE YOU MONITORING THAT IN THE FUTURE, THE WHOLE GARAGE, DOES IT TURN INTO STORAGE?
>> AS STATED BEFORE IN MY PRESENTATION, WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS IN THE LEASES, AND WE DO UNIT INSPECTIONS.
IT STATES IN OUR LEASE THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
>> STAFF WILLING TO MAKE THAT AS A CONDITION? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOUR PARKING THOUGH.
>> IT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THEY PROVIDE THAT AS PART OF THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT?
THE BUSH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING.
THIS IS FIRST QUESTION IS TO STAFF, THE PROXIMITY TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL IS SUBSTANTIAL.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ALL AROUND THIS THING.
HAVE YOU CONTEMPLATED OR TALKED ABOUT ANY FORM OF CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION? BECAUSE THIS IS A SIZABLE PROJECT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SIZABLE SHEER NUMBER OF TRUCKS COMING IN, EXCAVATORS, YOU NAME IT, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING IN.
JUST THE TRAFFIC ON BUSH ROAD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION,
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HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE MANAGED?>> ARE YOU REFERRING TO THEM BE A CONTRIBUTION AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS OF BUSH AND TONEY PENNA OR?
>> NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BENEFIT.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC CONSTRUCTION.
HAS STAFF CONTEMPLATED ALL THE ISSUES THAT WILL ARISE IN THE AREA FROM CONSTRUCTION?
>> THOSE ISSUES ARE TYPICALLY HANDLED WHEN PART OF THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS AND WITH ENGINEERING AND OUR TOWN ENGINEER.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO INCLUDE THEM.
>> YEAH. I'M SEEING RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BUSH ROAD, SO I'M ANTICIPATING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOME LANE CLOSURES OF SOME FORM AT SOME POINT.
BUSH IS A VERY BUSY ROAD JUST BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES TO THE PUBLIX AND WALMART ON THAT ROAD.
IF THERE IS LANE CLOSURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING, IT HAS TO BE SERIOUSLY PLANNED THROUGH AND THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN THAT'S PUT INTO PLACE.
AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE TO SEE IT, THAT NEEDS TO BE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL IF NOT IN FRONT OF US.
THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO PUT AS FAR AS LANE CLOSURES GO.
THEN EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GOING TO FENCE THE AREA AROUND, THERE'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT DUST THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS, AND THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND STUFF ACCORDINGLY.
HOW THAT IS MANAGED OR WHAT'S GOING ON AGAIN, SAME THING.
THAT NEEDS TO BE CHECKED AND FOCUSED ON ON HOW TO MITIGATE THAT ACCORDINGLY.
THEN EVEN WHEN THE ROAD RECONSTRUCTION IS DONE, IT'S JUST NOISE POLLUTION, STUFF LIKE THAT.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A TIMING LIMITATIONS ON WHAT HOURS THEY CAN DO CONSTRUCTIONS ON JUST BECAUSE IT COULD AFFECT SOME RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS ANYBODY TO SIT AND COMPLAIN THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED WITHOUT THINKING THESE THINGS THROUGH.
>> CAN I INTERJECT A COUPLE OF THOSE POINTS BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER? MAYBE I CAN HELP CLARIFY SOME THINGS.
>> SURE, YOU CAN CLARIFY IT, BUT THE QUESTION IS DIRECTLY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION PLAN.
ARE YOU AS AN APPLICANT WILLING TO PUT ONE TOGETHER?
>> SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF I TOLD EVERYONE ALREADY.
I DID TELL YOU GUYS WE'RE VERY FULLY INTEGRATED.
BUT YOU ARE TALKING TO A STATE-CERTIFIED GENERAL CONTRACTOR AS WELL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
I'M HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCTION OPERATIONS OF THE COMPANY, AS WELL AS I'M HERE APPLYING, BUT I'M NOT ONLY THE APPLICANTS, WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU.
I WILL SAY FOR STARTERS REGARDING LANE CLOSURES, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU SEE ANY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY LANES, WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANY LANES.
THE ONLY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE ARE TAPS INTO THE SEWER MAIN AND THE WATER MAIN ALONG BUSH ROAD.
THOSE ACTIVITIES WILL REQUIRE A LANE CLOSURE THAT'S DONE THROUGH AN MLT WHICH IS VERY STANDARD, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RUNS THAT.
BOB'S BARRICADES, I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT.
I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN IN TRAFFIC JAMS, WE ALL HAVE.
IT'S AN MLT THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED.
THERE'S A TIMELINE, THERE'S HOURS FOR THAT MLT.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE WHOLE LANE CLOSURES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING, LET'S SAY THAT THIS CONSTRUCTION HYPOTHETICALLY TOOK 365 DAYS, YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE IN THOSE 365 DAYS, MAYBE THREE TO FIVE DAYS OF LANE CLOSURES.
BECAUSE THESE ONSITE IMPROVEMENTS YOU CUT THE ROAD, THEY DO IT IN THE MORNING.
THESE UTILITY CONTRACTORS, THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME.
IT'S CALLED AN MLT THAT TAKES CARE OF THE LANE CLOSURES. I HOPE IT DOES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] CAN I TAKE THAT FLOOR FOR A SECOND? I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR CONCERNS ARE COMING FROM, BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS.
CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER ALL THE TIME AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE STAFF COMES INTO PLAY.
>> MY QUESTION IS VERY SIMPLE, ARE THEY WILLING TO DO A CONSTRUCTION IN [INAUDIBLE]?
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
THE TOWN MANAGES CONSTRUCTION IN THE TOWN EVERY DAY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK FOR ONE.
I'M JUST PUTTING THE CONDITION THAT THEIR COMMISSIONERS DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT AS A COMMISSIONER, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF HE'S WILLING TO DO A CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION PLAN.
A VERY SIMPLE ASK AND HE'S GIVING ME AN ANSWER.
>> I JUST WANTED TO FINISH TOO IF I CAN, PLEASE.
THIS MITIGATION PLAN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S STANDARD, IT HAS TO HAPPEN.
LIKE STEPHANIE SAID, I HAVEN'T WORKED IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER BUILDING DEPARTMENT WISE, BUT I'VE WORKED ANOTHER BUILDING DEPARTMENTS, IT'S CALLED A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING.
MY CIVIL ENGINEER HAS TO HAVE A SUDDEN AND EROSION CONTROL PLAN, WE HAVE TO ALL MEET.
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YOUR CONCERNS ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE NEGLECTED WHATSOEVER.AS MUCH AS YOU BRING IT UP NOW, I JUST THINK THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE PART OF ANY CONDITIONS OR ANY APPROVAL, BUT THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS YOURSELF.
>> THAT WAS JUST THE QUESTION, I WILL GO WITH THAT.
WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE ENTRY ONTO YOUR PROPERTY, THERE IS SIDEWALKS RIGHT AFTER THE ENTRY.
TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THAT CLOSE OF A RADIUS TO GO INTO IT AND WITH THE POINT OF IMPACT WITH PEDESTRIANS, WHAT IS YOUR MEASURE OF SLOWING TRAFFIC DOWN RIGHT AT THAT POINT OF ENTRY?
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST TURNING IN FROM BUSH ROAD INTO THE PROPERTY ITSELF?
>> WHEN YOU TURN IN, THE VEHICLES CAN SEE PEDESTRIANS ON BUSH ROAD, SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON BUSH ROAD.
I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT'S CROSSING FROM THE SIDEWALK TO YOUR POOL HOUSE.
YOU HAVE TO USE CROSSWALKS ON BOTH SIDES THAT ARE THERE, THE PROXIMITY FOR THAT TURN AND THEN THAT TURN AGAIN.
IF SOMEBODY IS MAKING A RIGHT AND A RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE GREENNESS AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE HEIGHTS ARE AND WHATEVER, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE COULD BE KIDS ON THAT SIDEWALK.
HOW IS YOUR PLAN TO SLOW THEM DOWN TO MAKE THAT TURN INTO IT?
>> ABSOLUTELY. THE SIGNAGE PLAN, I DON'T BELIEVE THE SILVER PLANS HAVE GONE THAT FAR YET TO SHOW SIGNAGE LIKE STOP SIGNS AND PEDESTRIAN SIGNS.
>> YOUR PLAN SHOWS STOP SIGNS ON BOTH SIDES TO COME OUT BUT IT'S NOT SHOWING ANY STOP SIGN TO GO IN.
THAT'S JUST A CIVIL ENGINEERING, THAT'S THE WAY HE DESIGNED THAT ENTRYWAY.
I WOULD HAVE TO JUST DEFER THAT ANSWER.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE].
>> DO YOU SEE THE POINT OF CONFLICT I'M ADDRESSING?
>> YES, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WITH THE TOWN ENGINEER PRIOR TO THE TOWN COUNCIL REVIEWING THIS APPLICATION.
>> YES, GOOD EVENING. A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO CHAT ABOUT ONE-ON-ONE WAS GOING TO BE TRAFFIC.
I READ THE ENGINEER'S TRAFFIC REPORT AND THEY'RE CITING 250 SOME ODD TRIPS PER DAY.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT'S HAVING LITTLE TO NO EFFECT ON THE INDIANTOWN ROAD, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S BEING JUSTIFIED AT ALL.
>> THAT'S A LOT OF TRIPS. INDIANTOWN ROAD, WE'VE ALREADY LEARNED THAT INDIANTOWN ROAD IS AN F ROAD.
YOU REMEMBER THAT PRESENTATION WE WERE GIVEN BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THEY SAID IT'S MAXED OUT.
OF COURSE, YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE ASKING TO PUT MORE TRAFFIC INTO IT THAN IF IT JUST HAD THE NORMAL NUMBER OF UNITS THERE.
>> IS THAT THE TPS LETTER FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY?
>> NO, IT'S BARR D'S ENGINEERING.
>> TRAFFIC STATEMENT, SAYS TRAFFIC RELATED IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING ROADWAY NETWORKS AND NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES ARE INSIGNIFICANT.
>> THAT DOESN'T SEEM PLAUSIBLE.
>> THE TRAFFIC STATEMENT THAT YOU'RE READING COMES FROM MY CIVIL ENGINEER WHO'S NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STATEMENT PREPARED AND THE CIVIL ENGINEER IS LEGALLY ALLOWED TO PREPARE THAT AND THAT'S WHY HE PREPARED THAT.
I TOOK IT MYSELF, I SUBMITTED IT TO PALM BEACH COUNTY FOR TPS LETTER.
THE REASON WHY I'M LOOKING DOWN IS I'M TRYING TO PULL UP THE TPS LETTER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE NUMBER IS 200-SOMETHING TRIPS.
THANK YOU. THAT'S THE TRAFFIC STATEMENT.
RIGHT. OKAY. I HAVE A TPS LETTER.
>> IT'S A TRAFFIC PERFORMANCE STUDY FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.
THERE'S DEFINITELY AN IMPACT WHEN YOU BUILD 35 TOWN HOMES.
THERE'S NOTHING IN MY POWER THAT I CAN DO TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
BUT I CAN REFERENCE THE TPS LETTER WHICH IS PALM BEACH COUNTY.
THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE THE RESEARCH AND THE STATISTICS, THE NUMBERS OF DAILY TRIPS.
THEY COME UP WITH THEIR OWN STUDY, AND IT WAS PART OF THE SUBMITTAL.
I WOULD LOVE TO FIND IT AND REFERENCE THAT.
I JUST NEED A MINUTE OR TWO, BUT I WANT TO KEEP THE MEETING CALM.
>> IT SAYS INSIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON INDIANTOWN ROAD I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT IF NOT SUBSTANTIAL.
IT'S NOT THAT I'M A LITTLE OFF ON DUMPING THAT MANY MORE TRIPS INTO THE INTERSECTION OF BUSH AND INDIANTOWN ROAD SEEMS A LOT.
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>> ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC STATEMENT AT ATTACHMENT D?
>> ATTACHMENT [OVERLAPPING] D, EXACTLY.
THEN THE PEAK HOUR, WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT PM PEAK HOUR, WHICH IS THE 20 TRIPS IS WHAT IS CRITICAL.
>> DURING A CRITICAL TIME IS WHAT IT'S BEEN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> RIGHT. DURING THE PM PEAK HOURS.
>> IS THAT SOMEWHAT LINEAR? IF IT WAS HALF THE NUMBER OF UNITS, WOULD YOU EXPECT THOSE TRIPS TO BE HALF IN ALL CATEGORIES THERE? [OVERLAPPING]
>> YES, GENERALLY. IT'S 10 TRIPS PER UNIT PER DAY.
>> IT WILL BE A DIRECT CORRESPONDENCE TO US INCREASING?
>> THE DENSITY WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC OUT THERE.
>> I JUST PULLED UP THE TPS LETTER.
THEY DO STILL USE THE NUMBER, 256 NEW DAILY TRIPS.
IT SAYS THE NEW PEAK HOUR WOULD BE 16 AND 20.
>> 4:00 PM TO 12:00 AM, I'M ASSUMING.
THEY USE THESE WEIRD NUMBERS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
>> WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHEN YOU GET.
>> INDIANTOWN. YOU SAID YOU'RE FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY.
HAVE YOU SPENT MUCH TIME UP HERE?
>> I JUST DROVE FROM I95 IN INDIANTOWN AND I WAS, I COULDN'T BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC AT 6:15.
>> IT WAS RIDICULOUS, AND THE PUBLIX IN THE WALMART SHOPPING PLAZA WAS CRAZY.
>> BUSH IS RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF CENTER STREET AND INDIANTOWN, AND THAT'S A CHOKE POINT TO BEGIN WITH, SO THIS IS A LOT.
>> RIGHT. I'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH PETER TOO AND HE TOLD ME THAT THERE ARE EXPANSION PLANS FOR BUSH ROAD.
TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN ABSOLUTELY.
IS IT GOING TO INHIBIT THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT? I DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO SAY SO BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE OTHER ZONING STANDARDS AND TRAFFIC IS JUST OUTSIDE OF MY CONTROL.
IT HAS TO BE DISCUSSED BETWEEN THE CITY AND DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND WHEN YOU GUYS, NOT THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT WHEN THE TOWN CAN GET AN EXPANSION PLAN FOR BUSH ROAD, AND I THINK THERE ARE FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT BECAUSE PETER SENT ME AN EMAIL BEFORE AND I COULD DEFER THE STAFF TO REITERATE THAT.
>> I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT BUSH ROAD BEING ABLE TO HANDLE IT.
IT'S WHERE IT DUMPS INTO INDIANTOWN ROAD.
>> RIGHT. TRAFFIC. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC.
>> YOU'RE BASICALLY ASKING US TO CONSIDER TWO CATEGORIES.
ONE IS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND ONE'S THE GREEN SPACE.
THE WORKFORCE'S HOUSING IS GREAT. IT'S EXCELLENT.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR IT TOO.
THERE'S NO WAY TO DENYING THAT.
BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY LIGHTING SCHEDULES.
>> TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS, I LOOKED THROUGH THE LIST AND MOST OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS FIXED SO THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE IT OFF INSULATION, STUFF LIKE THAT.
WATER FIXTURES ARE A THING THAT THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF. COULDN'T CHANGE.
I'M SEEING RECLAIM THE WATER FOR TOILETS AND IRRIGATION. HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT?
>> IS THAT WHAT THE FGDC CHECKLIST SAYS? [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, I SEE THERE'S POINTS IN THERE FOR THOSE.
IS THIS A SAMPLES OR IS THIS NOT APPLICABLE TO YOU GUYS?
>> I THINK IT'S A SAMPLE OR A TYPO.
THERE'S NO RECLAIMED WATER IN ANY OF THOSE UNITS FOR SURE.
>> WHAT ARE THE WATER FIXTURE REQUIREMENTS? IS THAT PART OF WHAT YOU'RE SCORING POINTS ON?
>> YEAH. IT'S SPECIAL FIXTURES THAT WE HAVE TO.
MY PLUMBING CONTRACTOR WHEN WE GO TO FERGUSON, WE REQUEST THESE FIXTURES THAT HAVE SPECIFIC RATINGS, GALLONS PER MINUTE.
>> I THINK IS ONE-SIXTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE STATE REQUIREMENTS ALREADY?
IT'S LIKE THE PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
I'M BUILDING A PROJECT IN BOCA TOWN HOMES AND I WAS TALKING TO MY CONSULTANT HERE AND I WAS TELLING HIM LIKE, "I'M JUST CURIOUS.
THE FEATURES I'M USING NOW." I SENT HIM THE FIXTURES AND STUFF. HE SAYS, "YEAH.
THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE." THE STUFF THAT BUILDERS, MYSELF, WE'RE DOING NOW IS ALREADY IN COMPLIANCE, MOSTLY WITH THE GREEN BUILDING.
>> IT'S HARD TO GET FIXTURES THAT DON'T MEET THAT EUROPEAN FIXTURES OR SOMETHING?
>> SOME OF THE HIGHER-END HOME BYPASS THAT BECAUSE THEY GET THEM FROM OTHER PLACES?
>> IT'S UNLIKELY IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO STICK ONE OF THOSE IN THIS UNIT I GUESS.
IT'S SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT [OVERLAPPING]
>>TO INTERMEDIATE ABOUT YOUR COMMENT SIR, WE'RE A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
WE USE STANDARD LEASE THROUGH THE NATIONAL APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
IT HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T REMOVE STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEY CAN'T RE-DO THE FLOORING.
THEY CAN'T BRING IN THE TILE KINDS OR ADDING TILE.
WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS.
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IT'S VERY CONTROLLING, AND FRANKLY, WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE TENANTS DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THERE'S HYPOTHETICALS.>> I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING THAT TYPE OF PROJECT.
THAT WAY IT'S GOING TO BE INSPECTED OFTEN.
ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR PRICES FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
FOR THE CURBING AND THE SIDEWALKS IN HERE, DO YOU HAVE CURBS? I'VE NOT SEEN THAT ON THE PLANS HERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ARE ALL THE SIDEWALKS CURBED, ARE PROVIDED D-CURB. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU MENTIONED THE MOT, THAT'S MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC.
THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PLANNER.
ARE YOU GUYS ADMINISTERING THAT YOURSELF?
>> MY UTILITY CONTRACTOR IS THE ONE WHO ORDERS THEM BECAUSE THAT'S BACK TO EFFICIENCY AND HOW LONG HE'S GOING TO KEEP A LANE CLOSED.
HE'S THE BEST GUY TO DO IT BECAUSE HE KNOWS HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE HIM AND HE KNOWS WHEN HIS GUYS CAN SHOW UP AND DO IT.
WE DO NEED THE TOWN UTILITY INSPECTOR TO COME UP, BUT USUALLY THEY'RE ALWAYS THE INSPECTORS REGARDING UTILITIES, THEY'RE ALWAYS READY TO GO WITHIN 24-HOUR NOTICE.
YEAH, I DEFER TO MY UTILITY CONTRACTOR.
HE PAYS FOR THEM. I END UP PAYING FOR THEM ANYWAYS THROUGH. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE PLAN'S PART OF IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DESIGNATED PERSON.
ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE DESIGNATED PERSON? [OVERLAPPING].
>> THE ENGINEER OF RECORD IS THE DESIGNATED PERSON USUALLY ON THOSE THINGS.
>> ALWAYS. YEAH. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ENGINEER RECORD. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT COLOR IS IT GOING TO BE?
>> I FORGOT TO MENTION THE TOP, WHICH IS THE MOST EXCITING PART OF THE MATERIAL BOARD ACTUALLY, SO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, IT'S AN IKO DYNASTY.
I BELIEVE THE NAME IS FROST TONE GRAY.
NO. BECAUSE THE ARCHITECTURAL THEY DON'T REALLY MAKE WHITE ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES.
YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO CONCRETE TILE AND IT'S A LOT MORE PER SQUARE.
>> THE WHITE'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FOR YOUR HVAC?
>> HVAC IS ANOTHER WAY THAT AN AC UNIT WILL EVENTUALLY BREAK AND HAVE TO GET REPLACED.
I'M THINKING ABOUT A LOWER EFFICIENCY YOU'VE AFFECTED SOME OF THAT.
BUT GREAT THING TO DO FOR YOUR HVAC AND THE GREEN MITIGATION IS WHITE ROOF?
>> MAYBE FUTURE PROJECTS YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT A METAL ROOF OR SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO IN WHITE.
>> I GUESS THERE ARE NO SHINGLES ON WHITE TO DO THIS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES LIKE THIS.
>> WERE THERE ANY PROVISIONS FOR MAKING ANY OF THESE UNITS ACCESSIBLE, ADA COMPLIANT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT WOULD IT TAKE? I KNOW YOU'VE GOT MOSTLY STAIRS ON THE INSIDE.
I KNOW BEDROOM'S DOWNSTAIRS, RIGHT?
>> RIGHT. AND I'VE QUESTIONED THIS MYSELF TOO.
I DON T KNOW THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION.
MY ARCHITECT KNOWS THAT STUFF BECAUSE I'VE ASKED HIM BEFORE.
AT A CERTAIN POINT, IF YOU BUILD 300 UNITS, I THINK IT'S A CERTAIN POINT WHEN YOU BUILD SO MANY UNITS THEN YOU HAVE TO START PROVIDING AN ACCESSIBLE UNIT.
>> IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
>> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] ABSOLUTELY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> BECAUSE SOME OF OUR POPULATION HAS DISABILITIES.
>> IT'D BE NICE IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THAT.
WOULD YOU BE AGAINST A TENANT PUTTING A LIFT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WE ACTUALLY HAVE BECAUSE MOST OF OUR STAFF'S TOWN HOMES AND GARDEN STYLE LOCKUPS, WE ONLY HAVE ONE PROJECT IN WEST PALM BEACH WITH ELEVATORS, SO WE'VE HAD TENANTS BEFORE REQUESTS FOR LIFTS.
ELDERLY PEOPLE TOO. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE DO WITH A CERTAIN DEPOSIT OR A FEE THAT'S REFUNDABLE TO THAT RESIDENT AT THE END WHEN THEY MOVE OUT AS LONG AS THEY CAN TAKE IT OUT WITHOUT A LOT OF DAMAGE.
>> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING.
>> CAN YOU MOVE YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE SIR?
>> OH, OKAY. SORRY. GOOD EVENING.
I AM VERY ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY ON THIS PROJECT ALSO.
WITH REGARDS TO THE ADA REQUIREMENT, I THINK THE ONLY PLACE I SAW WAS THE ENTRANCE TO THE OFFICE.
THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE YOU HAVE THAT, RIGHT?
>> YES. I THINK THAT'S BY CODE 2 SINCE IT'S COMMON AREA.
>> RIGHT. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE HURRICANE WINDOWS OR SHUTTERS [OVERLAPPING] ALL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE FACILITY?
>> ABSOLUTELY. HURRICANE IMPACT GLASS.
>> OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I GUESS A QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, I KNOW THAT THIS IS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THEY HAVE REQUESTED 11.94 UNITS PER ACRE.
WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM THAT WE ALLOW? IS IT 12.9?
>> FIFTEEN UNITS PER ACRE. IS THE MAXIMUM.
>> FIFTEEN UNITS PER ACRE? OKAY. [BACKGROUND]
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I THINK IT WAS PRETTY MUCH IT OTHER THAN I JUST WANTED TO READ THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON.>> THANKS. FIRST QUESTION IS FOR STAFF ON THE WORKFORCE HOUSING ENFORCEMENT, THERE'S A PROVISION IN HERE ON PAGE 9.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS THAT A STANDARD PROCESS THAT YOU PULL OUT A BOILERPLATE SOMEWHERE OR HOW DOES THAT GET?
>> IT IS IN THEIR CODE SO WE HAVE A PROCESS VERY FEW WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS THAT WERE BUILT ONSITE, BUT WE'VE DONE THEM THREE TIMES NOW SO BARCELONA, DAKOTA, AND THEN NOW THIS IS THE THIRD ONE SO WE LEARN ALONG THE WAY AND OUR PROGRAM IS SUBSTANTIALLY CONSISTENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTIES.
>> THANK YOU. THEN FOR THE APPLICANT, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY OTHER WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS IN YOUR COMMUNITIES?
>> I'M CURIOUS, IS THERE AN INHERENT DIFFERENCE IN THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN MARKET-RATE UNITS AND WORKFORCE HOUSING RATES OR UNITS TYPICALLY?
>> NO. THEN DO YOU PUT ANY LIMITATIONS ON HOW MANY VEHICLES CAN BE PARKED PER UNIT AND LEASED?
>> VEHICLES AND PEOPLE. YES. MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE UNITS.
ABSOLUTELY, WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE APPLY, PART OF OUR APPLICATION IS YOU HAVE TO REPORT YOUR VEHICLES, GIVE US YOUR LICENSE PLATE, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. WE'RE CAREFUL WITH THAT.
>> IS THE RATIO OF GUEST PARKING TO UNIT PARKING THAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE, IS THIS PRETTY TYPICAL ACROSS YOUR COMMUNITIES?
>> I AM VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS HAVE TO SAY TONIGHT AND ALL OF MY COMMISSIONERS HERE HAVE REALLY COVERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD'VE HAD JUST ONSLAUGHT.
THE LETTER THAT WAS DATED SEPTEMBER 28 FROM.
>> I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE ENTRANCE AREA BECAUSE I DID DRIVE BY THE PROPERTY THAT WAS PROPOSED AND THE ENTRANCE AREA.
WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, IS THAT THE SAME ENTRANCE AREA THAT IS ESTABLISHED RIGHT NOW?
>> NO. BECAUSE THE ENTRANCE AREA RIGHT NOW IS NOT DIRECTLY.
IF YOU WERE TO PULL OUT OF THE ENTRANCE AREA NOW AND YOU GO STRAIGHT ACROSS BUSHVELD, YOU WOULD DRIVE INTO THE GRASS SO WE'RE MOVING THAT AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE DESIGN THAT WE WOULD MAKE THE ENTRANCE AREA OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE OTHER ENTRANCE AREA TO AVOID ANY TRAFFIC CONFLICTS.
THEY SAID THAT IT'S A SAFER WAY AND MY CIVIL ENGINEER SAYS THE SAME THING.
PEOPLE STOP AND THEY STOP IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF ACROSS 25 OR 50 FEET OFFSET.
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO GRAPPLE THAT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO, OF COURSE.
>> JUST LOOKING AT ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE AND I KNOW THAT'S MAYBE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS MEETING, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF WITH THIS TYPE OF DESIGN AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN THE MOST SAFEST TYPES OF DESIGN THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.
>> YEAH. FIRST QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT ON ATTACHMENT BW2 GRAY WATER REUSE, PAGE 3 OF 10.
THE GRAY WATER SYSTEM IS INSTALLED.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT? [NOISE] BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OR MAYBE STAFF.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE CHECKLIST.
THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE BLUE HIGHLIGHTED AREA WITH A NUMBER NEXT TO IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO?
>> THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT THAT WAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO GRAY WATER INSTALLED OR THEY'RE NOT ALSO DOING RECLAIM WATER.
IT'S THAT ONE THING THEY'VE CHECKED. I SEE.
>> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT'S RIGHT.
>> YES. THE CHECKLIST IF YOU LOOK ON THOSE BLUE BOXES, IF IT HAS A ZERO, WE'RE NOT DOING IT.
THIS IS A SCORECARD BASICALLY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND SO ALL THESE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE'RE DOING EACH ONE, WHEREVER YOU SEE A NUMBER THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE DOING THE ONES THAT WERE IN RED, SO I APOLOGIZE.
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>> THAT SNAGS ME TOO WHEN I LOOK AT IT.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STAFF OR APPLICANT, COULD YOU PULL UP THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE INCOME LIMITS AND THE ADJUSTED INCOME?
>> JUST TO CLARIFY ALL OF THIS, THAT THE RENT RESTRICTION, ARE WE LOOKING AT ADJUSTED INCOME FOR THE LOW, MODERATE OF THE ADJUSTED INCOME WOULD BE 58,377? STAFF, YOU SAID THAT SOMEBODY, IN ORDER TO RENT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EARN MORE THAN 58,377.
>> IT'S A RANGE SO LOW INCOME GOES THAT'S THE BOTTOM END OF THE INCOME LEVEL SO IT GOES FROM 58 TO A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE 76,000 SO IT'S A RANGE OF 61-80%, THAT'S THE LOW-INCOME CATEGORY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR AT THE LOWER RANGE, 58-76, AND THEN ONE AT 76-98 BECAUSE I KNOW THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR OUR WORKFORCE, WHICH ARE TEACHERS AND FIREMEN, FIRST RESPONDERS, AND POLICE SO I WAS LOOKING UP THE SALARIES OF TEACHERS AND BEGINNING RATE FOR TEACHER IN PALM BEACH COUNTY IS THE MEDIAN IS 54,497 AND THE BEGINNING IS LET'S SEE, 49,133.
I'M SORRY. THE MEDIAN IS 52,133.
YOU KNOW WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IN THE APPLICANT IN YOUR STATEMENT OF VIEWS, YOU HAD WRITTEN DOWN THAT THE RENT WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE LOW, MODERATE, 1,285 A MONTH.
HOWEVER, STAFF POINTED OUT THAT THERE IS A RANGE FOR RENT AS WELL, THAT IT COULD BE UP TO 1,750 AND SO YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN CHARGE WITHIN THAT RANGE SO I'M JUST GUESSING THAT.
USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE HIGHER RANGE OF THE STAFF IS GOING TO BE.
>> TO BE FRANK I ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I'VE INTERPRETED THE CHART THIS WAY.
THE WAY I INTERPRETED THE CHART THIS WHOLE TIME, AS A DEVELOPER, I HAVE TO RUN THESE NUMBERS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FEASIBLE.
THIS WAS A VERY TOUCHY SUBJECT FOR ME WITH STAFF BECAUSE PROVIDING THESE FIVE UNITS, THEY WON'T EVEN BREAK EVEN THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
THIS IS A HEAVILY SUBSIDIZED RENT RANGE, ESPECIALLY WITH HIGH CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE INTERPRETATION ON THE CHART? THE WAY I INTERPRETED IT [OVERLAPPING].
>> NO. OF COURSE NOT THE WAY I INTERPRETED IT WAS THAT THE MAXIMUM RENT WAS 1,285 FOR THOSE FOUR UNITS SO THAT'S THE NUMBER I PLUGGED IN TO A PRO FORMA LET'S SAY WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S THE WAY I INTERPRET THE CHART.
>> THE REPORTS ALSO STATED THAT THE UNITS WITHIN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY COULD NECESSARILY NOT BE RESTRICTED TO CERTAIN UNITS BEFORE THE LAW FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THEY POSSIBLY COULD BE OUTFITTED IN THE INTERIOR WITH DIFFERENT FINISHES.
>> TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER.
THE INTERIOR FINISHES, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
>> WE WILL BE DOING THIS POSSIBLY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I BELIEVE I SAID THAT MY STATEMENT USE AND IF I DIDN'T I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I'M UNDER OATH THE UNITS ARE FLOATING UNITS.
UPON CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IF YOU WORKED IN A UNIT THAT WAS WORKFORCE HOUSING, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IF IT WAS A WORKFORCE HOUSING UNIT, WHERE MARKET RATE UNIT, THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNIT UNLESS YOU GET COFFEE WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR OR DO A WALK WITH THE DOGS AND YOU TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR AND THE NEIGHBOR
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TELLS YOU HOW MUCH THEIR RENT IS AND THAT THEY'RE IN ONE OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.OTHER THAN THAT, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW.
>> THEY WOULDN'T BE HAVING COFFEE IF THEY GAVE THAT INFORMATION UP, THEY WOULD BE HAVING COCKTAILS.
>> NO, THEY WOULDN'T. [LAUGHTER] THE LEASING OFFICE IS GOING TO BE LEASING PLUS IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY A PROPERTY MANAGER AT THE SAME TIME SO ARE YOU PLANNING ON HAVING THAT MANNED DURING THE DAY, 40 HOURS A WEEK OR?
>> YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW. WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THE TURNOVER IS LIKE, HOW QUICKLY WE CAN STABILIZE THE PROPERTY, RENT IT OUT, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
>> I'VE GOT A QUESTION PROBABLY FOR THE ACTIVE TOWN ATTORNEY TONIGHT IS THAT COMMISSIONER PATEL HAD BROUGHT UP THE FACT ABOUT THAT THERE IS A, I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU, POSSIBILITY OF TURNING THESE INTO CONDOS.
THERE IS A 30-YEAR COVENANT FOR RENT TO BE ABLE TO STAY AS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I LOOKED UP SECTION 27, 31, 97, AND ALSO SECTION 27-3,200 ON IT.
DOES THE COVENANT SUPERSEDE CONDO CONVERSION OR CAN THEY CONVERT TO CONDO BEFORE THE 30 YEARS WITH APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO LOOK AT THOSE PROVISIONS THAT YOU LOOKED UP, BUT MY INSTINCT IS NO, THE DEEDS WOULD PROBABLY PREVENT THE TURNOVER OF THAT BEFORE THE 30-YEAR PERIOD.
>> THEN STAFF, BECAUSE YOU WENT THROUGH THIS WITH BARCELONA, RESALE TO ANOTHER PERSON, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS WOULD STAY WITH THE SALE.
>> IT'S PART OF THOSE WITH THE LAND.
>> I WOULD JUST NOTE ON THE CONVERSION FROM RENTAL TO CONDO, THERE ARE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH FOR SALE UNITS AND THE TIME-FRAME THE TENURE FOR SALE UNITS ARE IN PERPETUITY VERSUS 30 YEARS, AND PERPETUITY IN THIS CASE IS CONSIDERED 99 YEARS.
THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COVENANTS THAT ANY CONDO CONVERSIONS GOES BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENT REVIEW THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR RELATED TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.
NOW, THAT BEING SAID, THEY COULD DO CONDO CONVERSION AT YEAR 31, AND IT'S NO LONGER A REQUIREMENT AND THEN THEY MET THEIR REQUIREMENT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR RENTAL.
>> I READ ALSO BITS AND PIECES IN EVERY REPORT THAT AS FAR AS DETERMINING THE RENT CATEGORIES AND THE INCOME LEVELS, IT ALL STARTS WITH HUD.
THEN JUST THE HUD WOULD PREPARE A PALM BEACH COUNTY INCOME LIMIT AND THEN IT GOES TO THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TO DEFINE THE TIERS.
THEN IT GOES TO THE TOWN COMPLYING WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY OR DOES THE TOWN REDO PART OF THOSE TIERS AGAIN.
>> WE GET EVERYONE IN OUR CENSUS AREA, THE BOCA RATON WEST PALM BEACH AREA, HAS A DEFINED LEVELS OF ANNUAL MEDIAN INCOME BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR AREA.
THAT COMES FROM HUD AND IT USUALLY LAGS BEHIND MARKET LIKE 2-3 YEARS.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THINGS LIKE A RENTAL FLOOR IN THERE SO THAT WHEN YOU PURCHASE, WHEN YOU HAVE AN APPROVAL, YOUR RENTAL FLOOR, YOU DON'T GO BELOW THAT.
IF WE HAVE A RECESSION AGAIN, WE HAD THE ISSUE OF GOING BELOW THE RENTAL RATE IN WHICH YOU DID YOUR PRO FORMA AND MAJOR CALCULATIONS ON, SO IT STARTS THERE.
THEN IT COMES THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS RELATED TO WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS OF TRASH? WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS FOR UTILITIES IN THE TOWN? THEN WE LOOK AT THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL IN LINE AND WE APPROVE IT.
ACTUALLY MARTIN SCHNEIDER DOES.
>> THANK YOU. APPLICANT, WASTE MANAGEMENT IS GOING TO BE UPGRADING THEIR SYSTEMS IN MARCH TO THE ARMS THAT PICK UP THE TRASH CANS.
IS YOUR COMMUNITY READY FOR THAT AND THERE STILL GOING TO BE ROOM FOR THOSE 64 GALLON CANS IN THE GARAGE?
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>> THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MANEUVER AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> NOT EVERYBODY'S GETTING THEM.
>> YES, IT WAS ONE COMMENT AND THEN YOU ALSO WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH CAN IN THE GARAGE SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM.
WE PUT THE LARGEST ON THE CAD FILE.
WE PUT THE LARGEST TRASH CAN ON THE FLOOR PLAN.
REGARDING THE GARBAGE TRUCK ITSELF, WE HAVE LIKE A FIRE TRUCK AND A GARBAGE TRUCK AND THE AMBULANCE.
WE DID LIKE A SIMULATION THROUGH THE BROADWAY AND THAT'S HOW THE CIVIL ENGINEER CAME UP WITH THE RADII SO WE'RE NOT HAVING A PROBLEM.
>> LAST QUESTION IS GOING TO BE ON TRAFFIC AGAIN AND I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO BUSH ROAD PEOPLE MAKING THEIR COMMENTS BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL READ THE LETTER IN THE PACKET FROM THEM.
THE CIP IMPROVEMENTS AREN'T GOING TO BE UNTIL YEAR 25.
UP UNTIL THAT TIME, I KNOW BUSH ROAD PEOPLE, MAYBE THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE EXTRA TURN LANES AND EGRESS INTO A BUSH ROAD.
HOWEVER, THEY DID ASK FOR A THREE-WAY STOP SIGN.
I THINK AT BUSH ROAD AND TONEY PENNA, IF THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY SO JUST ASKING STAFF COULD THAT BE A POSSIBLE INTERIM? I KNOW THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CHANNELS, BUT COULD THAT BE AN INTERIM TEMPORARY HELP AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION?
>> I'D LIKE TO ASK THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AND THEN I'LL HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THE COUNCIL.
>> DID THE CJ LOOK AT THIS TRAFFIC FORECASTS? DID HE CONCUR WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY STUDY?
>> DO YOU KNOW? HE DID. ALL RIGHT.
>> ALSO I PASS THAT THE COMMENTS FOR THE RESIDENTS TO CJ TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN SO HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN IT.
>> I THINK I'M THE LONE WOLF ON THIS ONE.
I THOUGHT THIS PACKAGE WAS REALLY FANTASTIC.
I THOUGHT IT WAS PUT TOGETHER WELL.
I APPRECIATE IT ALL YOUR EXPLANATIONS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF, HOW THE WORKFORCE HOUSING WOULD BE ADMINISTERED IN OTHER PROVISIONS THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYED IN PLACE BECAUSE WE LEARNED OUR LESSON ELSEWHERE ON THAT.
THOSE ARE USUALLY MY QUESTIONS LIKE WHO'S WATCHING IT? WHO'S MAKING SURE IT'S GETTING DONE AND HOW DO WE FIND OUT HAVING SOMEONE HAS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT ISN'T A REALISTIC WAY SO I ENJOY THAT.
I DID WANT TO ASK STAFF, STEPHANIE OR PETER THAT IN THE CONCERNS, DID THE STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE LETTER ITSELF IN THE SUGGESTIONS THAT THE HOAS ARE ASKING FOR OR OFFERING AS A WAY TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC WITH THE TRUCKS AND THE SEMIS ON THAT ROAD.
>> IF I PASS ALONG TO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO ALLOW HIM TO PROVIDE THE COMMENTS.
LET US KNOW THERE WAS A PLAN THAT WAS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, AN INTERSECTION AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO ADDING SIGNS TO MAYBE PROHIBIT SEMIS FROM TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND ON BUSH ROAD.
BUT THEY'RE GOING TO INVESTIGATE THAT.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER IF IT'S YES OR NO, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT.
>> IN THE WORLD OF TOWN GOVERNMENT, WOULD THIS BE LOOKED AT AND DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR SOMEONE TO LOOK AT THAT THEIR CONCERNS AND TO MAKE CHANGES OF THAT HIGH INTENSITY TRAFFIC THAT'S ON THAT ROAD?
>> THE TOWN TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS BEEN LOOKING AT IT AND HAS NOTED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO INVESTIGATE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON, BUT WE CAN DO FURTHER INVESTIGATION PRIOR TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
BECAUSE THE CIP PROJECT FOR THE WORK IN 2025 THEY'RE STARTING THE DESIGN SO WE HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR THAT FOR COUNCIL AS WELL.
I WASN'T ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF CJ TODAY, BUT I DID GET INFORMATION FROM THE TOWN ENGINEER ON IT.
>> BECAUSE MOSTLY THEY'RE CONCERNED IN THAT LETTER AND HAVE NOTHING REALLY TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT DOES A LITTLE BIT WITH THE TRAFFIC, BUT IT SEEM LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE CONCERNS WERE IN GENERAL THAT ROADS BEING OVERUSED BY MAYBE SOME THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE OVERUSED BY.
>> THEY CUT THROUGH FROM WALMART IS A GREAT ESCAPE FROM
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INDIANTOWN ROAD AND THEN TRAFFIC ON TONEY PENNA IS GOING A LITTLE FAST.THERE'S VERY LITTLE BREAK BETWEEN CARS.
I SEE THAT ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE WHERE I'M WHERE THERE'S NO SPACING FOR YOU TO GET OUT SO I'VE SEEN IT.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE'LL GET WITH THE TOWN TRAFFIC ENGINEER BEFOREHAND SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE MORE OF THIS INFORMATION FLUSHED OUT.
>> FABULOUS, SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO TO.
>> ONE QUESTION I MEANT TO ASK BEFORE.
AS FAR AS YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE, FOR STAFF WE HAVE TWO WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ALREADY A PROCESS OF BARCELONA AND DAKOTA, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WHAT IS OUR GOAL OR HOW MANY ARE WE TRYING TO HAVE FOR WORKFORCE?
>> OUR COMP PLAN SHOWS THAT WE ARE WOEFULLY LOW IN THE AMOUNT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THE NUMBER IS IN THE THOUSANDS OF OUR NEED.
WHEN WE ADOPTED THE WORKFORCE HOUSING ORDINANCE, WE KNEW THAT WE WERE UP AGAINST MAJOR IMPEDIMENT BECAUSE WE HAD VERY LITTLE RESIDENTIAL VACANT LAND LEFT.
ANYTIME THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES AND WE WERE WILLING TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, IT'S GOTTEN EVEN MORE UNATTAINABLE.
>> I REALIZED THAT. IS THERE A MANDATE THAT WE HAVE THAT SAYS THAT BY A CERTAIN DATE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SO MUCH WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPED?
>> IT'S A GOAL, BUT IT'S DEVELOPER DRIVEN.
IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO MANDATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE DO HAVE ALMOST $2 MILLION IN THE TOWNS WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR A ROUNDTABLE ON WORKFORCE HOUSING SO THAT THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT ADDRESS IT.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER SUBJECT.
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTION?
>> I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, PLEASE.
[OVERLAPPING] WHAT'S THEIR SIGNAGE PLAN? I MISSED IT, IF THERE WAS MOMENTS FOR SIGNAGE PLAN.
>> FOR THE STREET, NO, THERE WAS NOT.
>> ANYTHING THAT SHOWS WHERE THE STOP SIGNS ARE?
>> IT SAYS ON THE CIVIL SIDE PLAN WITH LITTLE ARROWS.
>> WHAT PAGE IS THAT? C303 [INAUDIBLE]?
>> IT DOESN'T SAY IT BECAUSE C3.0 WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE THAT IT WOULD SAY.
HE DOESN'T CALL OUT THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS OR THE STOP SIGNS.
>> IN PARTICULAR, WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS THE EXIT FROM THE COMMUNITY OUT ONTO BUSH ROAD.
>> YOU'RE SHOWING A STOP BAR THERE FOR PEOPLE EXITING.
>> THERE NEED TO BE A SIGN THERE BEFORE PEOPLE CROSS OVER THE CROSSWALK.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE STOP AND LOOK FOR PEDESTRIANS.
BECAUSE PEDESTRIAN IS GOING UP AND DOWN ON THE SIDEWALK AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BEAM AT RISK.
>> YEAH. I AGREE THAT THE CIVIL PLAN NEGLECT SIGNAGE PLAN, AND I'M OPEN TO REVISING THAT BEFORE OUR FINAL COUNCIL MEETING OR FINAL APPROVAL.
I WOULD DEFINITELY BE OPEN TO SUBMITTING A REVISED JUST A C3.0 SHOWING THE SIGNAGE ON IT AS WELL, NOT JUST THE TOP BARS.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER PATEL SAID ABOUT THE ENTRYWAY AS WELL.
THERE SHOULD BE MORE SIGNS THERE.
EVEN A SPEED LIMIT, SIGN TOO, THERE SHOULD BE SPEED LIMIT IN THAT WHOLE ROAD.
SHOULD HAVE A SPEED LIMIT SIGN AS WELL.
>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [INAUDIBLE].WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
>> DO I GET A REBUTTAL? I'M JOKING.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT, WHO KNOWS? [BACKGROUND]
>> THE PERSON ON THE PODIUM IS CHARLES [INAUDIBLE]
>> IF YOU'D STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
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[OVERLAPPING] IT DOESN'T MATTER.>> OKAY. MY NAME IS CHARLIE [INAUDIBLE] I LIVE AT 345 LAUREL OAKS WAY.
OUR HOUSE IS ACTUALLY THE ONLY HOUSE IN LAUREL OAKS THAT HAS AN UNIMPEDED VIEW OF THE CHURCH PROPERTY.
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THAT CHURCH OVER THE YEARS AND WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT THAT PRIME PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS GOING TO STAY.
IT WAS A SMALL CHURCH, BUT IS VIBRANT, BUT YOU COULD SEE THAT SOMEBODY WAS JUST USING IT FOR INVESTMENT PROPERTY AND IT WAS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED.
WE'RE NOT SURPRISED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
HOWEVER, I AM A BIT SURPRISED BY THE DENSITY.
IF YOU LOOK AT AND WAS IT PETER, WAS KIND ENOUGH TO PUT ALL THE DENSITY LEVELS OF ALL THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND STARTING FROM OUR POINT WHICH IS SIX, AND CHASE WOOD AND TIMBER WALKER 8.
BUT THIS GOES 20 PERCENT BEYOND THAT, PUSHING THE ENVELOPE.
HONESTLY, I DON'T SEE THE REASON FOR THAT.
WHY DO WE NEED TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE MORE THAN THE 10 THAT LAUREL OAKS HAS.
WE DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR VISITOR LOTS BUT IT'S MANAGEABLE.
THIS ONE BEING 20 PERCENT MORE THAN THAT AND 50 PERCENT MORE THAN CHASE WOOD AND TIMBER WALK, TO ME, IS PUTTING 10 GALLONS OF STUFF AND A FIVE-GALLON CONTAINER.
I LOOK AT THE SIGN ON THE WALL HERE, IT SAYS QUALITY OF LIFE.
WELL, QUALITY OF LIFE DIMINISHES WITH THE DENSITY LEVEL.
WE DON'T HAVE THE PLOT PLAN UP ANYMORE, BUT YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THERE'S HARDLY ANY GREEN SPACE.
IT'S MOSTLY BUILDINGS AND PAVEMENT.
THEN I LOOKED AT THE COMPOSITION OF THE APARTMENTS AND THEY'RE ALL THREE BEDROOMS. NOW THREE BEDROOMS SUGGESTS TO ME EITHER COUPLES OR FAMILIES.
FAMILIES MEANS KIDS, WHERE THE KID IS GOING TO PLAY? THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE.
DOESN'T HAVE A TAUGHT LOT, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK OUT.
THE OTHER THING IS, KIDS MEANS TOYS, BIKES, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
MORE STUFF THAN THEY'LL PROBABLY FIT IN THAT STORAGE AREA IN THE GARAGE.
IT'S GREAT, IF THEY CAN HAVE THEIR GARAGE POLICING THE FACT THAT STORAGE ISN'T BEING USED IN THE GARAGE IN PROPERLY BECAUSE THE OTHER BIG CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS PARKING.
AT LAUREL OAKS WE SUFFER FROM PARKING ISSUE WHERE THE OVERFLOW, WE DON'T ALLOW PARKING IN THE STREET LIKE MOST COMMUNITIES.
OVERFLOW AND CARS THAT ARE NOT APPROVED TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES PARK OUT ON THE SWALE ON BUSH ROAD.
[NOISE] AM I RUNNING OUT OF TIME ALREADY?
>> [LAUGHTER] IT'S THREE MINUTES, YES.
>> WELL, ANYWAYS, WE SUFFER FROM THAT ISSUE AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
WE ASKED THE TOWN ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO IF THEY COULD STOP PEOPLE FROM PARKING ON THE SOIL, WHICH WRECKS THE GRASS, BREAKS THE SPRINKLER HEADS AND JUST LOOKS BAD.
THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY, WHETHER IT BELONGS TO THE HOA OR NOT.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU'RE NOT BEING PRESENTED WITH A FAIT ACCOMPLI HERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND RE-FACTOR THIS INTO A DENSITY THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU DON'T NEED TO BE 20 PERCENT HIGHER THAN THE HIGHEST ONE, 50 PERCENT HIGHER THAN EVERYWHERE ELSE.
I JUST DON'T SEE THE REQUIREMENT FOR.
THE WORKFORCE HOUSING THING IS VERY NICE, BUT IT'S A PERVERSE INCENTIVE PLAN BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE THE DENSITY UNLIVABLE.
>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOU WRAPPED UP TODAY [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
>> THE NEXT PERSON THAT SUBMITTED A COMMENT CARD IS PAT [INAUDIBLE] SAID INCORRECTLY.
SHE DOES NOT WISH TO TALK, SHE JUST WANTS TO STATE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BUS ROUTE IN TONEY PENNA. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT QUESTION TO TALK IS [INAUDIBLE].
>> WELL, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
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I LIVE AT LAUREL OAKS.THANKS CHARLIE FOR BRINGING UP THE DENSITIES BECAUSE WE ARE THE DENSEST COMMUNITY THERE NOW.
BUT WE'RE IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THAT AREA WHERE WE'RE ALL OWNERS.
WE OWN THESE JUST AS THEY DO IT AT TIMBER OAK WITH THE ON AND ON UNITS.
HAVING THIS BECOME AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD WORKFORCE, HOUSING BEING THE EQUIVALENT OF APARTMENT RENTALS.
THAT IN ITSELF IS GOING TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
IT'S HARD ENOUGH AT OUR DENSITY OF 10 TO ENSURE THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN GET IN AND OUT OF OUR STREETS.
MAKING IT EVEN DENSER IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM ESPECIALLY WITH MORE KIDS PROBABLY, I JUST SEE A LOT OF PROBLEMS COMING OUR WAY.
FRANK, YOU BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE TRAFFIC ON INDIANTOWN IS MAXED OUT.
I COME DOWN, TONEY PENNA GOING WEST AND TURN NORTH ONTO BUSH ROAD WHEN I COME HOME FROM WORK AND WHEN I MAKE THAT TURN, THERE'S ALWAYS A LINE OF TRAFFIC ON BUSH ROAD.
I CAN'T MAKE THAT FIRST TURN TO GO INTO MY TOWNHOUSE UNLESS SOMEBODY MAKES ROOM FOR ME TO MAKE THAT TURN AND THEN TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP HALFWAY TO THE NEXT STREET.
I CAN SEE THAT TRAFFIC BEING BACKED UP AND CUTTING ME OFF A BOLT STREETS WHEN I TRY TO MAKE THAT TURN, JUST TO GIVE YOU MORE OF A SENSE OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS LIKE NOW.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE YOU RECONSIDER WHAT THE DENSITY IS GOING TO BE FOR THIS PROJECT AND KEEPING WITH IT, WITH WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS.
I THINK WHERE WE'RE REALLY AT A MAX FOR JUST SAFETY SAKE, JUST HAVING EMERGENCY VEHICLES BEING ABLE TO COME IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA AS IT IS, THERE'S EMERGENCY VEHICLES THAT HAVE TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR AREA JUST TO GET TO ATRIA, WHICH IS UP THE STREET AND THAT'S ABOUT WHAT I HAD TO SAY.
I'M NOT PLEASED WITH THE PLAN AS IT STATES.
TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST TIME I WAS AWARE THAT THESE WERE RENTAL UNITS. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THE NEXT PERSON IN THE PODIUM IS ANDREA CATSMAN.
>> GOOD EVENING, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M HERE AS THE SPOKESPERSON, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF LAUREL OAKS HOA.
I'M THE ONE WHO WROTE THE LETTER ALONG WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT OF TIMBERWALK SO I'M TALKING ABOUT MY 62 UNITS, THEIR 220 UNITS.
NELSON FROM OUR POINT THEY'RE 12 UNITS AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT SOMEHOW STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF BOTH OF THOSE.
I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC DUMPING INTO INDIANTOWN ROAD.
THE PROBLEM IS FROM BUSH ROAD, IT CAN ONLY GO ONE WAY AND THAT MEANS IT'S GOT TO GO EAST AND MOST PEOPLE WHO USE THAT DON'T WANT TO GO EAST THEY WANT TO GO WEST AND SO THEY EITHER GO BEHIND WALMART AND COME OUT TO CENTER STREET AND USE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IN INDIANTOWN AT CENTER STREET, OR THEY GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC'S PARKING LOT AND COME OUT AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IN THE PUBLIC'S PARKING LOT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT ANYBODY WHO LIVES ON BUSH ROAD THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DUMP OFF ON INDIANTOWN.
THEY AVOID INDIANTOWN BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THE BOTTLENECK ALL THE WAY FROM CENTER STREET TO IRELAND WAY.
IN ORDER TO AVOID THAT, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY COME DOWN BUSH ROAD, THEY STOP AT THE STOP SIGN AT TONEY PENNA AND THE LAST TIME I COUNTED, THERE WERE 25 CARS LINED UP AT THAT STOP SIGN AT TONEY PENNA AND THE PEOPLE ON TONEY PENNA DON'T LET ANYBODY IN.
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I'VE GOT 25 CARS AND I HAVE TWO LITTLE STREETS ON THE EAST SIDE OF BUSH ROAD THE LAUREL OAKS AND THEN THERE'S THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO TIMBERWALK AND OUR POINT THAT NOBODY CAN GET OUT OF.I DO WANT TO MENTION FOR HIM, HAVING THE ENTRANCE TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT RIGHT ACROSS FROM TIMBERWALK.
TIMBERWALK HAS GATES AND THERE ARE CARS THAT ARE STOPPED ON BUSH ROAD TRYING TO GET THROUGH THEIR GATES BECAUSE THE GATES DON'T GO UP TOO FAST.
THERE'S AN EXTRA HESITATION THERE THAT IS GOING TO MAKE HIS PEOPLE HAVING PROBLEM GETTING OUT.
WE WROTE THE LETTER, I'M A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER, I'VE BEEN DIRECTING TRAFFIC FOR I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY YEARS.
I KNOW WHY I SUGGESTED A THREE-WAY STOP THERE BECAUSE THEN THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO BE COURTEOUS THEY HAVE TO STOP AN ALTERNATE TO LET THE OTHER CARS THROUGH AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.
SOMEBODY LETTING THE CARS OUT SO THAT MAYBE WE WON'T HAVE 25 CARS LINED UP DOWN BUSH ROAD.
BUT IT'S JUST IT'S TOO SMALL A STREET AND WHEN THE TOWN NOW WANTS TO DO TURN LANES, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE WHATEVER EASEMENTS WE HAVE TO LOWER LOBES BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HAVE PLANNED I'D LIKE TO SEE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT AND LIKE THEY WERE SAYING, 250 TRIPS A DAY, IT'S GOING TO BE UNTENABLE AT THAT POINT.
YOU FORGET THAT WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS AND PEOPLE DO THEIR DROP-OFFS AND THEY PICK THEIR KIDS UP AND THAT'S BAD ENOUGH.
WHEN THEY'RE COMING DOWN BUSH ROAD AT THAT TIME OF DAY, IT RUNS BETWEEN TWO O'CLOCK AND FIVE O'CLOCK THAT WE HAVE TRAFFIC LIKE THAT AND THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.
>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP UP.
>> THAT'S THE END OF THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
>> WE COME TO THE DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ONE START? YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE EAGER.
[LAUGHTER] WELL, FIRST I DO WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE CHAIR I WAS A LITTLE CURT WITH MY RESPONSES EARLIER SELF.
>> WELL, I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY, BUT THAT'S NOT COOL.
>> I DO FEEL THE PAINS OF THE TRAFFIC ON BUSH ROAD MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL OR HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL OVER THERE AND WE DO GO TO TRY TO CHASE WITH PUBLICS SO AND WALMART, SO WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT THAT IS.
HOWEVER, THE PROJECT ITSELF, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC PROJECT.
HE'S GRANTED 12 UNITS BY RIGHT TO DO OVER THERE AND THE BONUS OF 12 HE'S GIVING IS BECAUSE HE'S ADDING AN ADDITIONAL FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
WORKFORCE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN HAS BEEN REALLY TRYING TO GET.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WHERE PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE.
NOW, ESPECIALLY POST-COVID, IT'S BECOME REALLY BAD.
>> I LIKED THEIR MITIGATION PLAN FOR HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ADMINISTERED IN THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THOSE UNITS AND THEY'VE TO REPORT TO THE TOWN AND I LIKE THAT.
>> I THINK OVERALL THE PROJECT THE WAY THEY'RE DOING IT, THE WAY THAT IT'S A ROTATING TYPE OF BASIS WHERE IT COULD BE IT'S NOT A FIXED UNIT, BUT IT COULD BE ANY [NOISE] OF THE UNITS I THINK IT'S WELL-THOUGHT OUT.
WE TALK ABOUT DENSITIES AND POSSIBLY THE DENSITY IS BEING TOO MUCH.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DENSITY TABLE, THEY'RE ALLOWED 6 UNITS PER 2.93 ACRES, THAT'S THEIR ALLOWABLE AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING THE HIGHER DENSITY NUMBER IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE FIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
YOU TAKE THOSE FIVE OUT, THEY'RE BELOW LAUREL OAKS AND TIMBERWALK BOTH.
IF THE INCREASE TO THE COMPARABLES IS BASED ON WORKFORCE HOUSING AND IT'S HELPING THE TOWN, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DENY THAT ADVANTAGE.
BECAUSE IN THE PAST ALL DEVELOPERS THAT COME HERE, THEY USUALLY JUST TAKE THE FEE OPTION AND THAT'S WHY THE TOWN IS $2 MILLION.
BECAUSE WHATEVER THE PROBLEM IS, WHAT'S THE TOWN GOING TO DO WITH IT? THEY CAN'T BUY ANY PROPERTY FOR THAT MUCH BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROPERTY IN JUPITER THAT YOU CAN BUY FOR THAT MUCH AND EVEN IF YOU BUY IT, COST OF CONSTRUCTION IS SO MUCH THAT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IT.
>> I'LL PAY THE FEE RATHER THAN RISK THE LACK OF INCOME.
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>> CORRECT. WHILE THIS APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY TAKING THE FULL GIST AND BRUNT OF DOING THE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I THINK THAT'S A DEFINITE PLUS FOR THE BONUS.
THE GREEN I THINK THE STAFF IS ADDRESSING IT PRETTY WELL OVERALL.
I DO HAVE MY CONCERNS ON HOW THAT WILL GO INTO THE FUTURE, BUT I THINK THE STAFF THEY'RE CAPABLE OF HANDLING THAT, SO THAT'S FINE.
I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO DOING SIGNAGES AND POSSIBLY PUTTING A STOP SIGN AT THE END I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONDITION I WOULD ASK FOR IS TO GET THAT STOP SIGN RIGHT AFTER THEY ENTER IN BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS RIGHT THERE AND TO HAVE JUST A FAST-MOVING TURN IN COULD POSSIBLY BE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND I DON'T THINK THE APPLICANT IS AGAINST THAT.
>> WOULD A CAUTION SIGN, BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN A STOP SIGN GOING INTO THERE?
>> I THINK A STOP IS MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE STOP SIGN, 90 PERCENT OF TIME PEOPLE WON'T STOP.
>> A CAUTION SIGN THEY'RE ALMOST DEFINITELY NEVER STOPPING.
THAT'S JUST ME BEING HONEST WITH WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE TOWN AND STUFF.
BUT I DO FEEL THE PAIN OF THE OTHER MYTHS THAT ARE THERE I THINK BUSH ROAD IN GENERAL IS A MESS.
I THINK COUNSEL SHOULD ADDRESS THAT TRAFFIC SITUATION THROUGH A SEPARATE PROCESS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE IDEAL WAY, WHETHER IT'S STOP SIGNS ON TONEY PENNA, WHETHER IT'S FLASHING TRAFFIC LIGHT.
WHATEVER THAT IS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS TODAY.
I DON'T THINK THAT ONUS FALLS ON THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT AS SUCH.
>> RIGHT. THAT'S COMING DOWN THE ROAD, THAT'S PART OF THE CIP.
>> RIGHT, IT IS AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING AND I THINK AT THAT POINT, STAFF SHOULD REACH OUT TO THESE COMMUNITIES TO GET THEIR INPUTS ON WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST MEASURE OF ADDRESSING THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY LIVE A DAY IN, DAY OUT.
BUT I LOVE THE PROJECT, I THINK IT'S GREAT, I THINK I'M PROBABLY NOT A BIG FAN OF THAT GREEN COLOR RIGHT THERE.
WILL YOU SHOW THE PAINT CHIPS BECAUSE THEY LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
>> OKAY. THAT WAS JUST [INAUDIBLE] BUT I THINK THE BLUE'S [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE COLORS ARE ALL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT'S NOT AS ORANGE [BACKGROUND] LOOKING FROM THE PAINT CHIPS THAT PATEL HAD.
ANYWAY, I FORGOT TO SAY THAT DURING THE CONVERSATION.
>> YES, I COME FROM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SPIN.
I'VE GONE BY THE PROPERTY, I'VE LOCKED IT, I'VE LOOKED AROUND.
I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
WELL, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE HERE.
I THINK YOU HAVE SOME VALID CONCERNS.
I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONCERNS.
I THINK THAT CERTAINLY, IF WE WERE TO NOT HAVE IT AS DENSE AS WHAT THEY PROPOSED, THERE'S NO REASON WITH HAVING IT AT THE SAME LEVELS, MAYBE AT SOME OF YOUR OTHER PLACES LIKE LAUREL OAKS AND EVERYTHING.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HURT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT I'D LIKE FOR HIM TO ADDRESS THAT.
BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND IT MEANS A LOT.
IF I WAS IN YOUR SITUATION, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THE SAME THING.
JUST WANTING THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW IN THE R3 ZONING DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE AND ABOVE THE MINIMUM GREEN SPACE.
THEY ARE MEETING CODE WITH THIS.
WE DESPERATELY NEED WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, AND I THINK THAT JUST THE FACT THAT THE WE FINALLY HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT WANTS TO PROVIDE IT RATHER THAN PAY THE PLAY AND JUST PAY THE FEES, NOT TO HAVE IT, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT.
I KNOW WE STRUGGLE WITH DENSITY, WE HAVE IN EVERY SINGLE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE COMING FORWARD.
BUT IT'S MEETING CODE, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING A LOT FOR US, FOR OUR TOWN, FOR OUR TEACHERS, AND FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT DESPERATELY NEED TO LIVE HERE INSTEAD OF TRAVEL 45 MINUTES TO GET TO THEIR JOB.
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE COULD RECOMMEND THIS PART OF OUR MOTION A TEMPORARY STOP SIGN, A THREE-WAY WHICH ROAD.
WHEN WE GET TO THE MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT, THAT CONDITION ISN'T MANDATED BY HIS DEVELOPMENT THOUGH.
[01:35:05]
THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CIP, I BELIEVE AT THAT POINT.I DON'T THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE MOTION FOR HIM TO BE THE STOP SIGN IN HIS DEVELOPMENT WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN.
COMMISSIONER PATEL SAID IS PART OF HIS DEVELOPMENT.
THE THREE-WAY STOP AT BUSH AND TONEY PENNA IS A TOWN THING AND NOT BURDENED ON THE APPLICANT.
>> I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER.
I THINK THAT WE CANNOT BURDEN THE APPLICANT WITH TONEY PENNA TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON THIS CONDITION, AND WHATEVER WE DO [OVERLAPPING].
>> BECAUSE THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH OTHER STUFF.
>> THE APPROVAL IS SPECIFICALLY FOR HIS APPLICATION.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN PUT A CONDITION.
>> IT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
>> LIKE I SAID, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN NOTATE AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> OR MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A NOTE OF THAT?
>> YEAH. WHEN THEY GO TO DEVELOP THAT.
>> WE'LL ADDRESS IT IN THE UPDATE AND GET WITH THIS TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER HOWARD, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
>> YES, I'LL BE FRANK. I'M ALWAYS FRANK, BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS HARD.
THIS IS A HARD ONE. WE DO DESPERATELY NEED WORKFORCE HOUSING.
BUT THIS IS A TERRIBLE BURDEN ON THEM.
IT'S OBVIOUS THAT IT IS 25 CARS TO GET OUT ONTO TONEY PENNA IS UNACCEPTABLE.
I UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T TIE THEM TOGETHER, BUT IS THERE SOME WAY WE CAN CONVINCE THE TOWN COUNCIL TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY FOR THE STAFF, WHO DOES CONTROL THAT INTERSECTION, IS THAT A CITY? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE BUSH ROAD IS A TOWN ROAD.
>> TONEY PENNA IN THAT SECTION, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE TOWN ROAD IN THAT SECTION.
BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PLANS WITH A SEAT AT THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I WILL GET THE SPECIFICS.
I MEAN, TONEY PENNA IS 80 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THERE'S A LITTLE SPACE THERE, WHEREAS BUSH ROAD IS 60 FEET.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM ALREADY.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT IT'S NOT THE INDIANTOWN ROAD PROBLEM, IT'S THE TONEY PENNA PROBLEM.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIX THAT PROBLEM.
I THINK IF WE FIX THAT, WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF ANIMOSITY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT.
>> THAT'S PART OF THE CIP PROJECT THAT WILL BE HAPPENING TO IMPROVE THAT AREA REGARDLESS BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, THEY ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM.
I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE UNFAIR TO BURDEN THIS APPLICANT WITH SAYING THAT HE CAN'T DEVELOP BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A PROBLEM ON THAT, WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE CIP.
>> DO WE HAVE IT WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL? I KNOW IT'S NOT BINDING.
>> IT'S NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
WHAT HAPPENS ON BUSH ROAD AND TONEY PENNA, IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION EXCEPT FOR WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE.
BUT THEY ARE ALREADY ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES, IT'S GOING TO COME UP AND THEY'RE ALREADY ADDRESSING THE TRAFFIC ISSUES ON TONEY PENNA AND BUSH ROAD FOR THE CIP.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH THE STAFF.
[OVERLAPPING] WHEN IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING MADE.
>> WHO SHOULD THE LOCAL RESIDENTS PETITION TO TRY TO GET THAT INTO A THREE-WAY STOP? WHAT WOULD BE THE GOOD ROUTE FOR THAT STUFF, I MEAN?
>> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START.
I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY ARE AWARE AND SUBMITTED A LETTER, WE'VE DEFINITELY PUT THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AS WELL AS THE TOWN ENGINEER.
ALSO COMING TO THE COUNCIL IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT THING.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING TRACK OF THIS BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE PROCESS, SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S PROCESSES TO GO THROUGH, SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN AND WE DO OUTREACH TYPICALLY WITH THAT.
THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG BUSH ROAD IS A LITTLE BIT MORE NARROW.
THERE'S A NEED TO ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT.
>> STEPHANIE, YOU SAID YOU WERE ALREADY GOING TO PUT THAT IN THE NOTES, POSSIBLY IN THE REPORT WHEN THE NEXT ONE GOES TO TOWN COUNCIL WHEN THEY HEAR IT.
THEY'LL HAVE THAT IN THERE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING FELT LIKE STOP SIGN AND THE BUSH ROAD NEEDED TO BE AND TONEY PENNA INTERSECTION NEEDED TO HAVE SOME AN INTERMEDIARY FIXED WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE CIP [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THINK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
THAT'LL BE AS POWERFUL STATEMENT TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE ALL AGREED THAT, THAT INTERSECTION NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND IT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED SOON.
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>> SOONER THAN LATER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S EVEN BEFORE THIS PROJECT STARTS.
I MEAN, THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED YESTERDAY.
>> I AGREE THAT WILL BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THEM IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THIS STARTED.
>> I KNOW EVERYONE'S PRETTY MUCH ADDRESSED EVERYTHING THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
>> YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I DO APPRECIATE THE LEVEL AT WHICH THEY DETAIL IN THE PACKET FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF AND THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, BECAUSE TYPICALLY AND COMMISSIONER PATEL WILL SYMPATHIZE WITH THIS, WE'RE USUALLY ASKING WHERE THAT INFORMATION IS.
I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT DETAIL OF GOING FOR THIS CERTIFICATION AND SEVERAL LEVEL, HOW THAT WOULD BE MANAGED.
OF COURSE, I'VE SAID BEFORE, FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
>> THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL WAIVERS AND THEY COULD HAVE GONE FOR THREE STOREYS AND HIGHER AND THEY DIDN'T.
>> ANYONE WANT TO START A MOTION, CRAFTING A MOTION?
>> MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF HAVING A STOP SIGN ON THE ENTRY POINT TO THE PROJECT.
>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WITH THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE FOR THE EXIT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE'RE AMENDING THE MOTION AND WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION FOR OUR SIGNAGE PLAN AND THE MOTION PREPARED AGREES WITH THAT, THE SECOND?
>> WELL, I AGREE WITH THE PLAN LIKE I SAID BEFORE, BUT I DO NOT LIKE THE DENSITY LEVEL.
I THINK EVERYTHING IS FINE, BUT IF WE CAN GET THE DENSITY LEVEL DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE IT'S IN CONFIGURATION WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITIES, I'M FINE WITH IT.
>> ALL IN FAVOR ON THE MOTION SAY, NAY.
>> THAT WOULD BE NAY FOR YOU. BUT YOU HAVE TO SAY IT.
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES SIX TO ONE, RIGHT?
>> ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS FROM STAFF BEFORE WE ADJOURN?
>> I'M GOING TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT TO MAKE THAT PROBLEM AWARE, I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY NICE.
BUT THEY CAME OUT BECAUSE IT REALLY PUTS.
WE DON'T A LOT OF TIMES REALIZE EVERYDAY PROBLEMS. THIS IS GOOD.
>> IT PUTS PERSPECTIVE ON EVERYTHING [OVERLAPPING]
>> UNFORTUNATELY, GOING OVER THERE MYSELF AND TALKING TO THE TOWN DEPARTMENT [LAUGHTER]
>> I'M SURE YOU HAVE ADVOCATES BECAUSE NOBODY LIKES THE TRAFFIC IN JUPITER.
>> IF I CAN GET EVERYBODY TO JUST SAY HI TO MY DAUGHTER, THAT'S BEEN WAITING FOR AN HOUR-AND-A-HALF.
>> IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT ANYBODY HAS TO SHARE, THEN I WILL CALL THE MEETING ADJOURNED.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE GOING TO TOWN COUNCIL.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY.
>> THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.