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>> IT'S A NEW ONE I RECOGNIZE. GOOD EVENING.

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THE TIME IS NOW 5:02 AND I CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING OF TUESDAY, DECEMBER 6TH.

WE'LL DIFFER THE INVOCATION MOMENT OF SILENCE AND PLEDGE UNTIL AFTERWARDS AND ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> MAYOR KURETSKI.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR DELANEY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNSEL MAY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNSEL SCHNEIDER.

>> HERE.

>> COUNSEL SANDSTRONG.

>> HERE.

[1. Recess for Attorney Client Session to discuss the pending litigation in the case styled, Harbourside Place, LLC vs the Town of Jupiter and the Jupiter Community Redevelopment Agency. # (continued from 12/1/22)]

>> TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW.

>> HERE.

>> TOWN ATTORNEY BAIRD.

>> HERE.

>> I TURN IT OVER TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR REPORT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'RE ARE HERE FOR ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION ON PENDING LITIGATION IN THE CASE STYLE, HARBORSIDE PLACE, LLC VERSUS TOWN OF JUPITER AND THE JUPITER COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR ARE PRESENT AND WILL PARTICIPATE ALONG WITH TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW, MYSELF, TOWN ATTORNEY BEARD, AND SPECIAL COUNSEL LYMAN REYNOLDS.

IF THE MAYOR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECESS, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BOARD.

>> MOTION TO RECESS.

>> MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES. TOWN COUNCIL MEETING RECESSED.

THE TIME IS NOW 5:04 AND I CALL TO ORDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING OF DECEMBER 6TH TO DO A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

>> CHAIR KURETSKI.

>> HERE.

>> VICE CHAIR DELANEY.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER MAY.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER SANDSTRONG.

>> HERE.

>> EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KITZEROW.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER ATTORNEY BAIRD.

>> HERE.

>> AGAIN, I TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER ATTORNEY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE HERE FOR AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION INVOLVING THE CASE OF HARBORSIDE PLACE VERSUS TOWN OF JUPITER AND THE JUPITER COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ARE PRESENT, AS WELL AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KITZEROW, MYSELF AS COMMISSIONER ATTORNEY TOM BAIRD, AND SPECIAL COUNSEL LYMAN REYNOLDS.

IF THE MAYOR OR THE CHAIRMAN WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECESS THE CRA MEETING, WE WILL ATTEND THE SESSION.

>> MOTION.

>> MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>>[OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'LL NOW RECESS FOR THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION AND RECONVENE AT ITS CONCLUSION. THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER]THE TIME IS NOW 6:58 AND I'M GOING TO RECONVENE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING OF DECEMBER 6TH.

[RECONVENE COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING]

TURNING TO OUR COMMISSION ATTORNEY TO SUMMARIZE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THE BOARD HAS COMPLETED THEIR PRIVATE ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE CRA MEETING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

>> MOTION TO ADJOURN.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>>[OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> AYE. WE ADJOURNED THE CRA MEETING.

MOVING ON.

THE TIME IS NOW 6:58 AND I RECONVENED THE TOWN COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING OF DECEMBER 6TH.

I TURN IT FIRST TO OUR TOWN ATTORNEY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE COUNCIL HAS COMPLETED ITS ATTORNEY CLIENT SESSION AND IT HAS BEEN IN RECESS, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECONVENE THE COUNCIL MEETING THIS EVENING, YOU MAY DO SO.

>> WE'LL BEGIN AS WE NORMALLY DO.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE ROLL CALL, BUT WE MOVED TO THE INVOCATION MOMENT OF SILENCE AND PLEDGE.

>> DEAR GOD, KEEP US MINDFUL TO COUNT OUR BLESSINGS AND NOT OUR BURDENS.

NEVER LET US FORGET OUR JOB, IS TO LIFT THE BURDENS OF OTHERS. AMEN.

>> AMEN.

>> LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

>> EVERYONE PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

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MOVE ON TO JUST THE AGENDA ITEM, PRESENTATION ITEMS NUMBER 2.

FIRST, RECOGNIZING THE DEDICATED TOWN EMPLOYEES WHO GAVE THEIR TIME AND SELFLESS SERVICE TO HELP VICTIMS WITHHELD HURRICANE IAN. [NOISE]

[2. Recognizing the dedicated Town employees who gave their time and selfless service to help the victims of Hurricane Ian. #]

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, HURRICANE IAN WAS A CATEGORY FOR ATLANTIC HURRICANE, WHICH FORMED IN LATE SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

IT CAUSED WIDESPREAD DAMAGE ACROSS WESTERN CUBA AND THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES, SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND LATER IMPACTING SOUTH CAROLINA.

IN TOTAL, 146 FLORIDIANS DEATHS WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS MAJOR STORM AND THE DAMAGE ARE CURRENTLY ESTIMATED AT MORE THAN $50 BILLION.

ON THE EVENING OF SEPTEMBER 28, 2022, HURRICANE IAN MADE LANDFALL IN PUNTA GORDA, CHARLOTTE COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THE STORM TRACK NORTHEASTERLY, CAUSING MAJOR DAMAGE ACROSS NUMEROUS COUNTIES.

THE FOLLOWING MORNING, LAW ENFORCEMENT ESTIMATED THAT OVER 1,000 PEOPLE WERE TRAPPED IN FLOODWATERS.

OVER 200,000 RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES WERE WITHOUT POWER.

ESSENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DESTROYED THROUGHOUT THE AREA AND SEVERAL ROADS AND BRIDGES WERE DEMOLISHED.

IN RESPONSE, GOVERNOR DESANTIS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY.

NUMEROUS LAW ENFORCEMENT PUBLIC SECTORS EMPLOYEES WERE REQUESTED TO ASSIST THE WEST COAST COMMUNITIES WITH HURRICANE RELIEF.

ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST AT 05:00 P.M.

REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE STATE FLORIDA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE FLORIDA POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION REQUESTED ASSISTANCE FROM THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL TO ASSIST WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT RECOVERIES.

WITHIN 20 HOURS, 13 MEMBERS OF THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT MOBILIZED AND RESPONDED TO THE CITY OF NORTH PORT SARASOTA COUNTY, FLORIDA.

OVER THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS, OUR EMPLOYEES WERE DEPLOYED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY FOR NUMEROUS OPERATIONAL TASKS TO INCLUDE CURFEW CHECKS, STATIONARY POINTS AT WASHED OUT AND ROADWAY BRIDGES, SHIFT WORK WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AND NATIONAL GUARD MEMBERS, DRONE OPERATIONS, SUPPORTING ENGINEERS FOR STORM RELATED DAMAGE ASSESSMENT.

IN ADDITION, OUR EMPLOYEES DONATED NUMEROUS ITEMS TO THE NORTH PORT COMMUNITY TO INCLUDE BABY FORMULA, DIAPERS, FOOD, WATER, CLOTHING, SHOES, MONEY, AND OTHER VARIOUS ITEMS THAT THEY PERSONALLY PROVIDED.

THIS IS THE BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE PROVIDED BY OUR EMPLOYEES.

THIS TEAM OF POLICE OFFICERS WORKED WITH DILIGENCE AND PERSEVERANCE, PERFORMED NUMEROUS DIFFICULT TASKS IN WHICH LIFE AND PROPERTY WERE PROTECTED AND CRIME WAS PREVENTED.

EACH OFFICER SERVED WITH HONOR AND DEDICATION AND AMBASSADORS REPRESENTING THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT.

FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT IS MY HONOR TO RECOGNIZE SERGEANTS SCOTT KIM BARK, SERGEANT JASON ALEXANDER, SERGEANT ERIC FRANK, CORPORAL JOHN VANEGAS, CORPORAL DEMETRIOS [INAUDIBLE], DETECTIVE BRADLEY JORDAN, AGENT MIKE NICHOLSON, PFC BRANDON RHODES, PFC JOHN MATANTE, OFFICER ADAM BROWN, OFFICER BRYAN DICK'S, OFFICER KEVIN SCHWEPPES, AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT WAS OFFICER ROBERTO DIAZ.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE TWO MEMBERS FROM THE REQUEST, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OFFICER GERRI LAMB PAUL MARY, AND OFFICER TOM JOWELL, AS WELL AS ONE OFFICER FROM THE JUNO BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, OFFICER JERRY CLINE, WHO ALSO CAME WITH OUR ATTACHMENT FOR HURRICANE RELIEF.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR BROWN REGARDING SOME OF THE CIVILIAN STAFF THAT WENT OVER TO ASSIST WITH HURRICANE RELIEF.

>> GOOD EVENING. AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, THE JUPITER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR A LONG TIME HAS BEEN PART OF FOREWARN, WHICH IS A SUPPORT ENTITY OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, SPECIFICALLY AS A MUTUAL AID RESPONSE NETWORK IN RESPONSE TO WATER UTILITY EMERGENCIES.

SIMILAR TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION ON, I BELIEVE, OCTOBER 1ST, AND BY THE NEXT DAY WE HAD OUR RESPONSE TEAMS TOGETHER.

OUR TEAMS WERE THE FIRST BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN THE FLORIDA KEYS FIVE YEARS AGO AS A PART OF THIS RESPONSE NETWORK AND I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT AS

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JUPITER AS WE WERE EYEING HURRICANE IAN APPROACHING SOUTH FLORIDA, AS SOON AS WE KNEW THAT JUPITER WAS NO LONGER GOING TO BE THREATENED, THE FIRST WORDS OUT OF MY STAFF'S MOUTH WAS, HOW CAN WE GO HELP? WHO CAN WE GO HELP? I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE INDIVIDUALS ON OUR TEAM THAT RESPONDED TO THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL AND HELPED REPAIR THEIR SEVERELY DAMAGED WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE ROGUE CAROL, WHO WAS THE FIELD SUPERVISOR FOR THE ENTIRE RESPONSE TEAM.

CHRIS KRAFT, CHRIS JOHNSON, CHARLES MCCLELLAND, DANNY ADAMS, PAUL ROMERO, JODY POBUSIC AND OUR SUPPORT LOGISTICS EXTRAORDINAIRE ALLISON PHILSBERG.

WHO IS OUR ASSISTANT FACILITIES MANAGER DURING HER DAY JOB.

BUT SHE WAS HANDLING ALL OF THE PHONE CALLS, ALL THE CONFERENCE CALLS CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE WEEKENDS AND EVENINGS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FELLOW UTILITIES ON THE WEST COAST HAD ALL THE RESOURCES THEY POSSIBLY NEED TO RECOVER AS FAST AS THEY CAN FOR THEIR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.

I'D LIKE TO OFFER MY PERSONAL THANKS TO THEM ALSO. THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO JOIN ME WITH A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THIS DEDICATED SELF-GIVING THAT HAPPENED HERE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] I MIGHT NEED SOME TO GO IN FRONT, GO DOWN [INAUDIBLE] ACROSS THE PAVEMENT.

[BACKGROUND]

>> DAVID I'M MISSING YOU [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] [APPLAUSE].

>> I DON'T THINK YOU WANT ME DOING KARAOKE.

[LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND]

>> EXACTLY RIGHT. MAYOR COUNCIL THE OTHER THING IS THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WENT OVER TO THE WEST COAST SINCE CENTRAL FLORIDA THEY HELPED OUT.

BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, YOU CANNOT MOVE THIS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND AMOUNT OF ASSETS THAT WE TOOK OVER THERE WITHOUT LOGISTICAL SUPPORT.

THE EVENING AT 05:00 P.M. WHEN I RECEIVED THE PHONE CALL, FIRST THING I DO IS REACH OUT TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, SCOTT REYNOLDS, WHO IMMEDIATELY JUMPED IN ACTION, PROVIDING ALL OF THE LOGISTICAL PAPERWORK THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE OVER, THE FINANCES, THE CREDIT CARDS.

HE CAME OUT THE VERY NEXT MORNING AND HELPED LITERALLY LOAD UP AND SEND THE FOLKS OUT, HELP WITH PURCHASING.

ALTHOUGH HE DIDN'T GO OUT THERE, HE DID A YEOMAN'S AMOUNT OF WORK.

I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM ALSO.

[APPLAUSE]

>> WITH THAT, MOVE ON TO PRESENTATION AND REFORM THE AGENDA FROM THE PALM BEACH COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY.

[4. Palm Beach County Transportation Planning Agency presentation on U.S. Highway 1 Multimodal improvements. [TAB 3]]

>> EVERYBODY READY? THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

BRIAN, YOU'RE SURE I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE PALM BEACH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY.

WE'RE LOCATED AT 301 DATURA STREET AND WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA.

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TONIGHT I'LL BE GIVING YOU A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION AND INVITATION TO A PUBLIC WORKSHOP THAT THE TOWN OF JUPITER IS HELPING US HOST IN CONSULTATION WITH THE TOWN OF JUNO BEACH.

I JUST WANTED TO ALSO THANK MERYL HALPERN FOR BEING IN THE AUDIENCE FROM THE TOWN OF JUNO BEACH AS WELL.

A FEW YEARS AGO, PALM BEACH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY WRAPPED UP THE US 1 MULTIMODAL CORRIDORS STUDY, WHICH CONNECTED ALL OF PALM BEACH COUNTY'S US 1 QUARTER OR FROM DE CUESTA ALL THE WAY TO BOCA RATON.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT STUDY AND AN EFFORT TO TRY TO FACILITATE A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE TWO TOWNS ABOUT HOW US 1 LOOKS IN YOUR COMMUNITIES.

BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, I WANTED TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THE PALM BEACH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY.

WE HAVE A 21 MEMBER GOVERNING BOARD OF ELECTED OFFICIALS ON WHICH MAYOR KURETSKI SITS ON OUR MISSION AND VISION IT'S A COLLABORATIVE PLAN, PRIORITIZE AND FUND THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO BE SAFE, EFFICIENT, AND CONNECTED.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE HAVE AN AGENCY HERE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY KNOWN AS THE TPA, WHICH WE COMMONLY REFER TO OURSELVES AS WHICH IS YOUR RESPONSIBLE AGENCY FOR DESIGNATING AND PRIORITIZING FEDERAL FUNDS WHICH COME DOWN TO THIS AREA AND STATEWIDE FUNDS FOR PROJECTS IN YOUR LOCAL ROADS AND ON YOUR STATE ROADS.

US 1, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A FEDERAL ROUTE.

IT'S ALSO A STATE ROUTE AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING AND PROJECTS.

OUR PRIORITIES AS DEEMED BY OUR GOVERNING BOARD ARE COMPLETE STREETS, VISION ZERO AND ACCOMPLISHING MODE SHIFT.

WITH AN EMPHASIS ON COMPLETE STREETS, WE REALLY TRIED TO PUT A PRIORITY ON SAFE ACCESS FOR TRANSPORTATION USERS OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES THAT IS COMPLIMENTARY TO VISION ZERO, WHICH HAS AN AIM AND A GOAL OF THE TPA TO ACHIEVE ZERO SERIOUS INJURIES AND ZERO TRAFFIC RELATED FATALITIES.

IN THAT ALSO ACCOMPLISHING MODE SHIFT, WALKING, BICYCLING, AND TRANSIT RIDERSHIP, WHICH REDUCES CONGESTION.

WHY COMPLETE STREETS? WELL, WE CAN'T HAVE OUR POLICE EVERYWHERE.

IT'S NICE THAT WE HAVE RECOGNITION FOR THEM IN THEIR WORK, BUT THEY CAN'T BE IN OUR COMMUNITY AT ALL TIMES.

COMPLETE STREETS IMPROVE COMMUNITIES THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN BY PUTTING EYES ON THE STREET AT ALL TIMES.

IF YOU HAVE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, YOU HAVE BICYCLE ACTIVITY, YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE CRIME IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S ALSO BENEFITS IN TERMS OF INCREASED PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, ECONOMIC RETURN ON INVESTMENT, AND OF COURSE, JUST THE GENERAL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR YOUR RESIDENTS, VISITORS AND GUESTS.

TO GET INTO PROJECT HISTORY FOR US 1.

THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING REALLY SINCE 2013 WHEN THE PALM BEACH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY STARTED LOOKING AT US 1 AS A CORRIDOR AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE PEOPLE'S LIVES, CREATE SAFE MODE CHOICES ALONG US 1, AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

THE IMPETUS OF THIS REALLY CAME FROM THE PUBLIC.

WE HAD A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS WHICH CONCLUDED IN 2008.

WE HAD OVER 450 ATTENDEES, A NUMBER OF OPEN STREETS EVENTS, ONLINE SURVEYS AND OTHER METHODS FOR PEOPLE TO ENGAGE WITH THE TPA ABOUT US 1 AND HOW WE CAN CREATE A MORE MULTIMODAL CORRIDOR IN THE AREA.

FOR THAT, WE ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING A WORKSHOP WITH AN UPDATE FOR THE TWO TOWNS TO BE CONSIDERING A PROJECT FOR FEDERAL FUNDING AND STATE FUNDING TOMORROW HERE AT THE JUPITER COMMUNITY CENTER, CLASSROOM 1,2,3 AND 6.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO DISCUSS DRAFT CONCEPTS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED AT THE TPA, IDENTIFY THE KEY ROLES FOR THE CHALLENGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, AND THEN WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE.

WE'VE INVITED TOWN STAFF, ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND WE'RE INVITING OBVIOUSLY THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND REVIEW THE PLAN SECTIONS, COME AND REVIEW TYPICAL SECTIONS AND DISCUSS THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO SEE ON THE CORRIDOR.

YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS IMAGE AT US 1 IN THE PROJECT AREA.

OUR GOALS FOR THIS PROJECT IN US 1, FIRST AND FOREMOST WERE TO RETAIN ALL THE EXISTING VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS AREA.

ANY LEFT TURNS, RIGHT TURNS, U-TURNS IN THE ASSOCIATED FACILITIES, ALL WILL BE MAINTAINED.

WE ALSO IDENTIFIED THE POSSIBILITY TO WIDEN THE EXISTING BICYCLING TO MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR USERS WHO ARE MORE OR LESS A LITTLE BIT FASTER, DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY BIKE ON THE SIDEWALK, WHILE ALSO WIDENING THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS TO BE MORE ACCOMMODATING TO FAMILIES, PEOPLE WITH STROLLERS OR POTENTIALLY BICYCLISTS WHO DON'T WANT TO OPERATE IN THE ROADWAY.

ONE OF THE KEY DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE FEEL THAT WE WANTED TO STRESS TO BOTH TOWNS IS THAT FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE ENTIRELY COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR FROM THE STATE GOVERNMENT, WITH DESIGN BEING ENTIRELY DONE BY THE STATE.

OBVIOUSLY, TOWN STAFF HAVE INVITED ME HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLARIFYING ALL OF THESE POINTS AND TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ALL THE TOWNS, ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.

BUT REALLY, IF THE TOWN WANTS TO SEE ANYTHING

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THAT'S MORE OR LESS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, THE TOWN WOULD FUND THAT, BUT THE DESIGN WORK, CONSTRUCTION WORK ALL COMES FROM ANOTHER ENTITY.

NEITHER OF THE TOWNS WOULD HAVE TO PUT ANY CAPITAL DOLLARS INTO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.

WITH THAT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PLEASE CONSIDER AND SHARE ABOUT THE WORKSHOP TOMORROW, PLEASE COME MEET THE PROJECT TEAM MEMBERS OF THE TPA, MEET YOUR NEIGHBORS IN JUNO BEACH.

I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE MAYOR OR THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> FIRST ITEM, AND WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER, BUT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE.

THERE WAS A MULTIMODAL CORRIDOR STUDY, AS HE SAID, IS REALLY MANY YEARS.

RECENTLY LEARNED THAT THERE WAS FUNDING PROVIDED FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS AS HE SAID THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED AND IT FELL OFF MY RADAR SCREEN SOMEWHAT BECAUSE PART OF THE STUDY WAS IMPACTED WHERE PALM TRAIN WAS GOING TO OPERATE AND THE STUDY, WENT TO INDIANTOWN ROAD.

THAT IS A LOGICAL TERMINUS AND STARTING POINT FOR PALM TRAIN SERVICE SOMEDAY ALONG US 1.

KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE HAD PLANS FOR PARKING, WHATEVER YOU NEED THAT NONETHELESS.

LOGICAL QUESTION IS, KEY WHY IS IT ENDING IN OCEAN WALK BOULEVARD? I DID GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION AND I'LL LET YOU FIRST.

BY THE WAY, I'M GRATEFUL THAT BRIAN WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHY I WAS ASKING.

BECAUSE HE'S BIKED IN THE AREA, SO HE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT IF YOU COULD JUST PUT SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THAT AND THE ASK AN EXPECTATION THAT IT WOULD GO TO INDIANTOWN ROAD.

>> SURE.

>> PERHAPS A DIFFERENT SCOPE.

>> BASED OFF OF THE CONVERSATION EARLIER, I DID RE-ENGAGE WITH OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR VALERIE NIELSEN ABOUT THAT QUESTION.

WITH RESPECT TO THE EXTENSION TO INDIAN TOWN ROAD, AS I'D SAID BEFORE, THIS PROJECT GOES BACK A FAIR TIME AND SPACE AS ANY TRANSPORTATION PROJECT DOES, FUNDING TYPICALLY COMES FIVE YEARS AFTER YOU MAKE A DECISION.

IT'S VERY HARD TO GO BACK AND DRAW UPON THAT.

IN 2018, WE HAD IDENTIFIED A CONCEPT WHICH ACTUALLY BROUGHT FORWARD A TYPE OF BICYCLE LANE WHICH TYPICALLY IS ONLY FOUND IN VERY URBANIZED CONTEXTS.

AT DOWNTOWN WEST PALM, ETC.

AFTER OUR VIEW AND INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS THE ROADWAY OWNER, THEY'VE PROPOSED WIDENING THE BICYCLE LANES AND NOT PLACING THAT TYPE OF FACILITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES.

WE'VE DELIVERED THOSE PLANS TO BOTH OF THE TOWNS TO EVALUATE FOR CONSIDERATION.

BASED OFF OF THOSE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS, IT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT COMPLETE STREETS HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES.

COMPLETE STREETS IS NOT ABOUT PUTTING THE BEST BIKE LANES AND THE BEST SIDEWALKS AND THE BEST EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE.

IT'S ABOUT DESIGNING FACILITIES WHICH RESPECT THE SURROUNDING CONTEXTS.

FOR THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THE SAME TYPE OF DOWNTOWN BIKE LANE THAT YOU WOULD GET IN, LET'S SAY JUPITER AND JUNO BEACH.

THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.

THE OTHER IS HAS TO DO WITH THE ROADWAY EDGES.

WE HAVE A VERY GREAT PROJECT WITH RIVERWALK AND WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT THAT.

BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS LOOK AT EXTENDING THE ON-ROAD FACILITIES, BECAUSE OF THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SIDEWALK BEING ALREADY CONSTRUCTED TO THE STANDARD THAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET IN THAT RIVERWALK AREA.

WE CAN DISCUSS WIDENING THE BIKE LANE TO INDIANTOWN ROAD AT THE REQUEST OF THE MAYOR AND DEPENDING ON WHAT WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS TOMORROW BECAUSE WE WANT THAT FEEDBACK AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. JUST REALLY REDUNDANTLY STATING, I THINK UNIQUELY SOME YEARS BACK TO THE DEGREE THAT RIVERWALK ALREADY HAD THE MULTI-USE PATHS.

I THINK THERE WAS A PERSPECTIVE PERHAPS THAT WELL, THAT'S WHY WE CAN STOP THERE AND WE'RE COMPETENT ABOUT HOW [INAUDIBLE], WE'RE DOING NOTHING FOR THE BIKERS.

I WAS THRILLED THAT BRIAN HAS BIKED IN THE AREA, AND WAS WELL FAMILIAR WITH THE BENEFITS IF IT WERE TO CONTINUE IN THE INDIANTOWN ROAD.

WE WILL TRY TO PURSUE THAT, SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LOGICAL PIECE OF THIS, ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT POTENTIAL SCOPE.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST GOING INTO THE STUDY PHASE.

>> CORRECT.

>> WHAT IT ENDS TO BE IS STILL YET TO BE DETERMINED, BUT FDOT HAS SET ASIDE FUNDING.

>> CORRECT. REALLY THIS PROJECT IS IN LINE WITH MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE PURSUING.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE US-1 PROJECTS IN LAKE WORTH BEACH, AND IMPLEMENTED PROJECT IN DELRAY BEACH, BOCA RATON.

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IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, RIVIERA BEACH IS ALSO LOOKING AT MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS ALONG US-1 AS AN OUTCOME OF THIS STUDY.

YOU WOULDN'T NOT BE THE FIRST.

YOUR SECTION IS BY FAR THE EASIEST.

BOCA RATON IS DOING WHAT IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS A ROAD ELIMINATION, WHERE THEY'RE GOING FROM SIX LANES OF TRAVEL TO FOUR.

THAT'S NOT WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THIS AREA.

YOU ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ROUTE ROADWAY SPACE FOR VEHICLES, WITH THE OPTIONS TO CREATE A MULTIMODAL CORRIDOR WITHOUT IMPACTING ANY OF THOSE FACILITIES.

YOU'RE IN A VERY FORTUNATE SPACE HERE AND JUPITER AND JUNO BEACH.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TPA THAT MANAGED THE US-1 SECTION INTO CUESTA, AS WELL, I BELIEVE THEY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF LANES INTO CUESTA. [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE MIGHT HAVE HELPED FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION AROUND THAT PROJECT, BUT THE PROCESS IS THAT TPA TYPICALLY COMES UP WITH THE INITIAL CONCEPTS.

FDOT VETS THOSE CONCEPTS, AND THEN MOVES FORWARD WITH THEIR DESIGN AND THEIR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS BECAUSE THE ROADWAY IS OWNED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T LIKE TO HAVE OTHER ENTITIES, CITIES, AND COUNTIES COME IN AND TOUCH THEIR ROADWAY.

THAT'S WHY THE FEDERAL AND STATE DOLLARS ARE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE PROJECTS.

>> I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR CLARIFYING A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE OF MY FIRST QUESTIONS WHEN READING THIS PRESENTATION WAS WHAT COST-SHARING MAY BE EXPECTED FROM THE TOWN.

SO IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO HEAR, A LOT OF THE RESOURCES WOULD BE FEDERAL STATE.

I ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT STREET TREES, IS THAT A PART OF THE DESIGN?

>> IT IS NOT UNLESS THE TOWN DESIRE IT TO BE.

IF THERE IS ENHANCED LANDSCAPING ALONG THE CORRIDOR, THAT WOULD COME AT THE COST OF THE TOWNS BECAUSE FDOT HAS A STANDARD ROADWAY PACKAGE THAT THEY LIKE TO HAVE, IT'S USUALLY BAHIA OR WHATEVER TYPE OF GRASS IS CHEAPEST IN THEIR LIST OF INVENTORY AT THE TIME.

MORE OR LESS THE SECTION THAT YOU WOULD SEE OUT THERE NOW IS A SECTION THAT YOU WOULD GET.

SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD VERY GOOD SUCCESS IN DOING RETROFITS OF LANDSCAPING.

JUST LANDSCAPING AFTER FDOT COMPLETES THEIR PROJECTS.

THAT WAY YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FREEDOM TO GO ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FROM THAT.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE JUPITER, JUNO NATURAL AREAS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THOSE.

I LIKE TO DRAW UPON MY SUCCESSES WORKING WITH A LOCAL MUNICIPALITY HERE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, HAVING IMPLEMENTED LANDSCAPE DESIGN PROJECTS AFTER CONSTRUCTION CAPITAL HAS BEEN EXPENDED IN THE ROADWAYS AS YOU ENVISION IT.

>> AGAIN, I'M GRATEFUL TO YOU, BECAUSE PART OF THE CONFUSION WAS OUR STREET TREE IS PLANNED AS PART OF THIS DESIGN, AND ARE THEY BLOCKING THE VIEWS? BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT ROUTE 1 AND A NUMBER OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THAT'S THEIR DOWNTOWN TO CUESTA, THAT'S MAIN STREET OR ONE OF THEM.

OUR SECTION, PARTICULARLY WITH OCEAN WAYS, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF NATURAL AREA, NOT NECESSARILY A LOT OF SHADE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER SEEN A BIKER ON ROUTE 1.

I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT YOU DO.

I HAVE SOME HOPE THAT IF THIS IS BUILT THE WAY THAT IT'S ENVISIONED, MAYBE IT'LL DRAW SOME TRAFFIC FROM A1A WHICH IS HEAVILY TRAFFICKED, PROVIDE RELIEF, I'M UNSURE, BUT THOSE WERE THE CONCERNS AND THINKING I WAS HAVING AND I'M GRATEFUL TO YOUR COMMENTS AND SPEAKING TO THEM. THANK YOU.

>> I'M JUST WONDERING IF I CAN, I'M NOT ASKING A QUESTION, BUT JUST TO COMMENT FURTHER.

GENERALLY, THE WAY THESE PROJECTS WORK, IS A TPA BOARD WILL ALMOST UNIVERSALLY DEFER TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

UNLESS IT'S IN SOME SHARED AREA WHERE THERE'S SOME DEBATE ABOUT IT.

JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT THE VILLAGE AT THE CUESTA COUNCIL APPROACHED AND ASKED FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, AND THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS PROCESSES IS, WE'RE TOLD THERE'S FUNDING FOR THIS.

BUT IT BEGINS WITH THE WORKSHOP.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE HAVE JUNO BEACH INVOLVED AND IN FACT, IT'D BE REACHED OUT TO ME.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THE FINAL SAY.

IT WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED FOR THEM TO DO ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T WANT, JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS.

WHILE WE HAVEN'T SEEN MANY BIKERS ON US-1, WE KNOW THAT A1A IS SO CONGESTED.

THAT'S WHY I WAS EXCITED THAT IF IN FACT WE CAN GET BIKING IMPROVEMENTS, ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW WE'VE GOT ANOTHER NEARBY CORRIDOR AND IN FACT, TALKING TO BRIAN ABOUT IT, HE HAS BIKED, HE UNDERSTANDS, AND IF YOU PICK UP WHAT HE SAID, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CROSSWALK IMPROVEMENTS BEING DONE ON A1A THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT LESS BIKER FRIENDLY.

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WE HAVE DEALT WITH OVER MANY YEARS, THE CONFLICTS THAT HAPPEN.

WE WANT EVERYBODY TO PEACEFULLY GET ALONG, A1A IS REALLY THE MOST CONGESTED RECREATIONAL CORRIDOR IN THE COUNTY.

>> I WOULD AGREE. FRANKLY, I USUALLY BIKE ON US-1 EVERY WEEKEND.

I STARTED MY BIKES OUT OF BIKES PALM BEACH, TYPICALLY EVERY SATURDAY MORNING.

I SHRUG EVERY TIME I HAVE TO GO ONTO A1A, AND I HAVE TO THINK LIKE US-1, YOU HAVE A BIKE LANE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE NICE TO BIKE ON US-1, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AND YOU FEEL SAFE IN TRAFFIC CONDITIONS.

BUT IF YOU GO ON A1A, YOU'RE NOW DEALING WITH PEDESTRIANS IN THE BIKE LANE WHO RUN EVERY SATURDAY MORNING JUST LIKE THE CYCLISTS LIKE TO GO AND ENJOY A1A.

AS [INAUDIBLE] WAS INDICATING, OUR GOAL IS TO INCREASE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLINESS, AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE BEACH FOR PEOPLE WALKING IN MAKING IT EASIER TO CROSS THE ROAD THAT MIGHT COME INTO CONFLICT WITH SOME OF THOSE OTHER RECREATIONALISTS.

IF YOU PROVIDE A BETTER BICYCLE FACILITY ON US-1, YOU MIGHT DRAW SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC OFF OF OCEAN AND RELIEVE SOME OF THAT FRICTION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT RECREATIONAL GROUPS.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT DESIGN AND HOW MUCH INPUT WE HAD IN THE DESIGN PROCESS.

IT'S CATCH HER SON'S DRUM MENTIONED THERE'S NO SHADE TREES THERE, AND UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FEW MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRACTICAL TO USE THAT CORED ARC, IS GOING TO BE TOO HOT AND TOO SUNNY.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I WANT TO KNOW IF WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO INFLUENCE TO MAKE IT ACTUALLY USABLE MORE THAN JUST A FEW MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

>> SURE. THANK YOU, COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER.

I APPRECIATE THAT, AND YOU REMINDED ME TO MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN DELRAY BEACH.

DELRAY BEACH DID A 63 ROW DIET AND PLANTED ROYAL PALM TREES IN THE SIGHT LINES.

FDOT HAS ACTUALLY UPDATED THEIR ENTIRE STATE BY DESIGN MANUAL BASED OFF OF FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED IN THAT PROJECT AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS.

TREES AND SIGHT LINES BECOME VERY PROBLEMATIC, BUT THEY ARE SAFETY ORIENTED.

I WILL REITERATE THAT THE LANDSCAPING OF THE CORRIDOR IS UP TO THE TOWN.

IF YOU GO ABOUT DECIDING TO DO LANDSCAPING, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A NOTE THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

IT MAY BE BEST TO EXTEND THE CAPITAL DOLLARS FIRST AND THEN GO AND DO THE LANDSCAPING, BECAUSE IF YOU DO THE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REWORKING THE SWALE AREA, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME GRADING WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROAD DOESN'T FLOOD.

YOUR LANDSCAPING IS GOING TO GO CAPUT.

THAT'S WHY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO YOUR CONSTRUCTION FIRST, LANDSCAPING TO FOLLOW, AND THEN IMPLEMENT WHATEVER TREES OR GRASS OR SHRUBS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

WITH RESPECT TO THE QUESTION ABOUT PUBLIC INPUT, WE HAD NUMEROUS WHAT WE CALL TOURETTE'S AND THROUGHOUT PALM BEACH COUNTY TO DISCUSS INPUT FROM RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, AND OTHERS, ALL THROUGHOUT US1.

I BELIEVE I CAN'T RECALL IF IT WAS HELD IN JUNO BEACH OR JUPITER, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS WAS THE SECTION.

SECTION 6 WAS THE LAST SECTION IN BOTH OF THE TOWNS WERE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS EARLY ON THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME AT THE TPA.

>> WE'LL GET A PACKET OR SOMETHING THAT SHOWS US WHAT THE STANDARD PACKAGE LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA.

WHEN YOU SAY I WOULD WANT TO ADD THIS BIG BIKE LANE, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE ON US1 AND A LOT OF THE GRASS IS GOING TO GO AWAY NOW AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE HARD SCAPE, OR I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

>> IF I CAN ELABORATE ON NEXT STEPS.

FOR US, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT BOTH TOWNS CONSIDER A RESOLUTION IN THERE JANUARY MEETING AFTER THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP.

WE HAVE A DRAFT PACKAGE ALREADY FOR YOU TO GO TO BE REVIEWED TOMORROW AT THE MEETING WHERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE WIDTH OF THE CORRIDOR FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DRIVER AND THEN ALSO THE OVERHEAD CONSTRUCTION, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TOMORROW.

THEN YOU WILL ALSO RECEIVE WITH THAT RESOLUTION WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE COST TO FDOT OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION PRELIMINARY CONCEPT PACKAGE TO YOU THAT WOULD ALL COME WITH THE RESOLUTION AS WELL.

IT WILL COME BACK HOPEFULLY TO YOU ALL IN JANUARY WITH A RESOLUTION SIMILAR TO WHAT WILL BE THE PROCESS AND JUNO BEACH.

>> WHAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION YEAR?

>> UNFORTUNATELY, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, AS I SAID BEFORE, THEY ARE TYPICALLY AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OUT FOR ANY STATE OR FEDERAL ROADWAY.

TYPICALLY, DESIGN IS FUNDED FIVE YEARS FROM WHEN YOU MAKE THE REQUEST, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION FOLLOWS TWO YEARS AFTER THAT.

IT COULD BE UP TO SEVEN YEARS OR EIGHT YEARS DEPENDING ON WHEN THE REQUEST IS MADE FOR THIS PROJECT TO GET IMPLEMENTED.

NOW, I WILL SAY FDOT HAS BEEN VERY GOOD, NOTWITHSTANDING COST OVERRUNS DUE TO INFLATION ISSUES WITH THE PAST FEW YEARS.

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HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT PRIORITIZING LOCAL MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS TO COME SOONER.

WE CAN'T GUARANTEE IT, THAT WOULD BE SHORTER THAN THAT, BUT THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE.

THEY WOULD PROGRAM THEM SOONER.

>> AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ACTUALLY, THEY VEER MARKED IT, AND I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

IT MAY BE A YEAR. WE'LL GET BACK WITH THE COUNCIL TO LET YOU KNOW, BUT THEY ARE MARKED AND READY FOR YEAR.

MY ONLY POINT IN ASKING THAT QUESTION WAS IT'S NOT NEXT YEAR, BUT I THINK IT IS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE-YEAR WINDOW.

EVEN WHEN WE DO THE RESOLUTION, THERE'S STILL GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT GETS VETTED.

THE RESOLUTION WILL MEAN THAT WE WANT THEM TO BE PROCEEDING WITH ENGINEERING.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT AND I CAN'T RECOLLECT EVER TPA FORCING THE PROJECT.

ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE, WE'RE STILL A WAYS OFF, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST ANYBODY REALLY INTERESTED BE AT THE WORKSHOP.

EVERY TIME THOSE COME UP, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENED, AND MAKE SURE YOU HEARD SHE CAN INFLUENCE.

THAT'S HOW YOU INFLUENCE.

>> I WILL SAY THESE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE DISTRICT-WIDE FOR OUR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT ANYWHERE FROM UP TO ST. LUCY COUNTY DOWN TO BROWARD.

IF YOU ARE NOT ASKING FOR THESE FUNDS, YOU'RE LOSING OUT ON THEM.

THESE ARE YOUR STATE AND FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS.

I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU'RE MOVED TOWARDS A MULTIMODAL CORRIDOR, IT WOULD BE WELCOMED AND WILL WORK WITH YOU ALL TO GET YOUR TEAM WORKING WITH DOT TO GET THESE PROJECTS IMPLEMENTED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR, I DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

>> OKAY.

>> MATTHEW NEW LOCKER.

>> WHAT'S YOUR NAME?

>> BRIAN.

>> BRIAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE GATHERED HERE TODAY TO BE CELEBRATING ITEM FOR ON THE AGENDA.

BASICALLY, MY DAD DIED ABOUT A MONTH AGO, BUT I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME ABOUT HOW WHEN HE WAS YOUNG, HIS FAMILY WOULD DRIVE DOWN FROM MICHIGAN TO FLORIDA ON US1, AND FILL UP THEIR CAR WITH THE ORANGES FOR THE WINTER.

CLEARLY, THIS IS A HIGHWAY THAT CONNECTS OUR COMMUNITY TO EVEN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.

FOR THAT REASON, I SUPPORT A LOT OF THE IDEAS THAT YOU PUT FORWARD TODAY.

I ESPECIALLY ENCOURAGE THE TOWN COUNCIL AND MY FELLOW RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT, INCLUDING CONCRETE PROTECTED BUFFERS ALONG THE PIPELINES TO KEEP BIKERS EXTRA PROTECTED, AS WELL AS INCREASING AREAS OF SHADE ALONG THE SIDEWALK.

OF COURSE, BRING THESE IDEAS TO THE WORKSHOP TOMORROW.

I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY ELABORATE ON THREE REASONS WHY I THINK THE COUNCIL THEN MY FELLOW RESIDENTS SHOULD SUPPORT THIS PROCESS. FIRST OF ALL, HEALTH.

THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE ENCOURAGES US TO GET OUTSIDE, GET SOME FRESH AIR.

FRESHER AIR TOO BECAUSE FOR EVERY PERSON THAT WALKS OR BIKES, THAT'S ONE LESS CAR ON THE ROAD, LESS TRAFFIC FOR US THAT DRIVES SAFETY TO OF COURSE, THE CURRENT BIKE LANES, WE AGREE ARE DANGEROUS.

WHAT THE TPAS FACILITATING HERE WILL SAVE LIVES.

A SECOND DEVELOP COMMUNITY.

EVERY YEAR NEW BUILDINGS ARE GOING UP AND WE FEEL OURSELVES GETTING MORE ISOLATED FROM EACH OTHER.

THE SKILL IS ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DIVIDED BY MULTIPLE LANES OF ONCOMING TRAFFIC.

SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ALSO MAKE US MORE CONNECTED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, AND CAN MAKE JUPITER A STRONGER COMMUNITY FOR THE FUTURE.

LASTLY, COMMERCE.

WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CREATES JOBS AND STIMULATES THE ECONOMY.

MANY OF US CANNOT AFFORD TO DRIVE A CAR EVERY DAY, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE GAS PRICES.

IF MY FRIEND ALEX, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS A JOB AT THE BLUFFS SWEATSHOPS, WHICH IS IN THIS WORKING AREA.

I THINK THAT SHE DESERVES MORE THAN ONE OPTION ON HOW TO GET TO WORK.

DRIVING A GOLF CART OR WALKING OR RIDING A BIKE, ALL BECOME MORE VIABLE OPTIONS WITH THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.

THEN WITH THE MONEY THAT SHE SAVES ON GAS, SHE MIGHT GO TO A RESTAURANT AFTERWARD.

HOW BAD RESTAURANT PAY OFF THEIR ELECTRIC BILL? WE'RE ALL BETTER OFF.

ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T OWN A CAR AT ALL.

THEY'RE LOCKED OUT OF OUR ECONOMY INCENSE WHEN THE ROADS ARE DANGEROUS AND THEY HAVE TO RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY TIME THEY GET OUT THERE.

TO BE CLEAR, I SUPPORT THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TPAS SUGGESTED IMPROVEMENTS, AND THE FULL SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL AND MY FELLOW RESIDENTS IN THEIR PROCESSES.

I ESPECIALLY ENCOURAGED THE TOWN COUNCIL TO SUPPORT, AGAIN, CONCRETE BUFFERS THAT PROTECT BIKE RIDERS FROM PHYSICALLY SEPARATE THEM FROM CARS AND TRUCKS.

PRACTICAL POLICIES LIKE THESE, THEY ALL BRING US CLOSER TOGETHER AND THEY MAKE JUPITER NOT ONLY IN TOWN TO LIVE IN,

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BUT A TOWN TO THRIVE IN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE A MIRROR OF JUNO BEACH HERE WE WANTED TO CALL HER UP TO MAKE COMMENTS.

>> GOOD EVENING, [INAUDIBLE] MAYOR OF JUNO BEACH.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING AN INTEREST IN THIS.

I'M PERSONALLY VERY EXCITED IN THE IDEA.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD. I RIDE MY BIKE AS WELL.

I'D RIDE ON US1, AND I RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL SAFE IN THE ROAD.

I DO THINK THAT HAVING THIS MULTI-USE LANE WOULD IMPROVE SAFETY ON A1A JUST BY GIVING CYCLISTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CYCLE SOMEWHERE ELSE, PARTICULARLY THE CYCLISTS WHO LIKE TO GO VERY FAST.

MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT IF WE BUILD IT, PEOPLE WILL USE IT.

I ALSO SPOKE TO BRIAN ABOUT THE TREE FACTOR AND THE CONCERN THAT AT LEAST IN JUNO BEACH WOULDN'T ADD LANDSCAPING ON THE WESTERN SIDE THAT WOULD BE UNCHARACTERISTIC OF OUR NATURAL AREAS WHICH HAVE SCRUBBED TYPE PLANTS.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE COUNSEL THESE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS.

BUT LANDSCAPING DETAILS CAN BE WORKED OUT, BUT I HAD MANY OF THE SAME CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT YOU DID ABOUT THE COST SHARING, PRESERVING THE VIEW OF THE NATURAL AREAS, AND THE SAFETY.

HOPEFULLY, IT'LL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME [LAUGHTER] BUT THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE GOOD THOUGHTS. SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT. [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU ALL.

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WITH THAT, WE MOVE ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.

THIS IS THE TIME FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS, LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK,

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

WE ASK THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD BEFORE ADDRESSING COUNSEL.

WE GENERALLY DON'T DISCUSS THESE ITEMS HERE.

WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?

>> YES. FIRST YOU HAVE LINDA SMITH.

AFTER LINDA, IT'S ANDY WESTON.

>> THE NAME LINDA SMITH, JUPITER FLORIDA.

LAST TIME I WAS WITH YOU, I MENTIONED THAT WHERE I WAS FINANCING SOME REUSABLE CUPS FOR THE VILLAGE OF CUESTA AND THAT'S THE EXAMPLE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING A RECORDING OF PAST MEETINGS.

I RECOMMEND THAT FOR ALL CITIZENS TO WATCH AND LISTEN SO THAT THEY CAN BE ENGAGED IN THE TOWN.

THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT WATCHING IT ONLINE IS YOU CAN SPEED IT UP TO 1.5 OR 2, GET TO WHAT YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO A CONTINUATION ON THE DISCUSSION ON EDS.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I BELIEVE PALM BEACH GARDENS USES ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR ALL OF THEIR CODE ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES AND YOU ALREADY HAVE THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.

LAST MONTH YOU SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND MONEY ON POTABLE WATER AND WASTEWATER.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SPEND SOME TIME ALSO ON WATER CONSERVATION.

THERE WAS ALSO A DISCUSSION ABOUT STORM-WATER CONTROL, AND I THINK IF WE CAN TRY TO REDUCE SOME OF THE SINGLE-USE PLASTICS THAT CHOKE OUR STORM-WATER AND END UP IN OUR LUXE HETCHY RIVER, OUR STORM-WATER SYSTEM WILL ACTUALLY WORK BETTER AND IT WILL REDUCE THE CONDITIONS THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE FORCED TO PLAY IN AT DUBOIS PARK.

I APPRECIATE THE ROUND-TABLE DISCUSSION ON THE STATE REQUIRED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE NEED MORE CONSERVATION AND RECREATIONAL LAND.

ZONING NEEDS TO HOLD THE EXISTING EASEMENTS ON PLATS.

I'M ASKING FOR CONSERVATION TO BE A FOCUS.

RECREATION WILL HAPPEN PRIVATELY LIKE GOLF COURSES, PUTT STADIUMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUSINESSES WILL FIND A WAY TO DO THAT, BUT HIKING TRAILS, BIKE TRAILS, KAYAK LAUNCHES, THOSE THINGS THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY REVENUE CREATING IS GOING TO TAKE MORE EFFORT FROM THE TOWN.

WE NEED A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.

I THINK PERSONALLY, WE NEED A SUSTAINABILITY RESILIENCY CHIEF OFFICER LIKE THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND WE NEED SUSTAINABILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL NEW AND RENOVATED TOWN PROJECTS AND SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF THOSE PROJECTS.

I THINK WE NEED TO SUPPORT EQUITABLE RESILIENCY.

IT'S TIME FOR FLORIDA TO ADDRESS THE FACT AND ACCEPT CLIMATE CHANGE.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN BUILDING SEAWALLS.

WE CANNOT BUILD A SEAWALL BIG ENOUGH TO FIX THIS.

BUT WHAT IS JUPITER GOING TO DO DURING EXCESSIVE HEAT DAYS

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THAT WAS PROJECTED BY THE PALM BEACH NORTH RESILIENCY ACTION PLAN.

THE UNDERSERVED, LOW-INCOME JUPITER RESIDENTS WILL BE IMPACTED THE MOST, NOT ONLY IN THEIR HOMES, BUT OFTEN THEY SPEND THEIR WORKDAYS EXPOSED TO SEVERE HEAT.

WE NEED MITIGATION AND EDUCATION OF OUR CITIZENS ON STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE SUCH AS PRESERVING ECOSYSTEMS, ADOPTING FIRM RENEWABLE ENERGY.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO AT LEAST PUT CONDUIT AT THE NEW TOWN HALL, SO YOU CAN CONSTRUCT SOLAR PANELS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

>> MY ONLY COMMENT. I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE ANY MEMBER OF JUPITER TO TELL US ABOUT ANOTHER COMMUNITY MUNICIPALITY, THERE'S MORE CONSERVATION OF WATER THROUGH REUSE OF WATER FOR IRRIGATION.

WE STAND SECOND AND NONE.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REDUCED [OVERLAPPING] I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE. I'M SORRY.

I DON'T WANT THE PERCEPTION OUT THERE THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING A LOT.

THERE IS NO OTHER MUNICIPALITY DOES AS MUCH AS WE DO.

>> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR OF TOWN COUNCIL, STAFF.

ANDY WESTON, 949 DOLPHINS.

THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AND I'LL PROBABLY BE BACK AGAIN.

THIS TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

I APOLOGIZE FOR ESSENTIALLY THE EMAIL ABOUT 11:30 THIS MORNING.

I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO GOTTEN TO YOU EARLIER, BUT A LOT OF RECORDS THAT I HAD TO COMPILE.

IT'S AN EYE-OPENER FOR ME.

I MEAN, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY VALUES AND CHARACTER AND HERE THEY ARE.

THIS IS OFF THE TOP OF MAPS.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE TWO PLATS, RIVERSIDE AND RIO VISTA.

THE COUNTY HAS INCREASED THE MARKET VALUE, OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, 300 PERCENT.

IN THE TAX VALUES HAVE GONE UP 200 PERCENT.

I'M NOT SURE WHY THE TAX IS ONLY ONE UP 172 PERCENT, BUT THAT MONEY IS THERE.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD NOW, DOLPHIN IS $67 MILLION VALUE ON THE 38 PROPERTIES.

I'M HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE WITH THAT, BUT I'M NOT SELLING.

THE PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE VALUES FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTY AROUND US ARE 200 MILLION IN TOTAL PROPERTY TAXES, THAT'S BEING CONTRIBUTED IS $1.7 MILLION FOR THIS YEAR.

THE MONEY IS THERE. WE HAVE A NEW HIGH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, $58,000 ANNUAL PROPERTY TAXES.

THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES IN THERE, IN THE '20, '30S AND '40S.

I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS ROAD.

THAT ROAD LOOKS IT'S A BUSH ROAD.

IT'S JUST NOT.

I'M STILL AGGRAVATED WITH TODD, WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL ADMIRALS CODE FLOW.

WELL, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD LOOK LIKE THAT, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PUT THE ROAD.

NOW, I'D LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS ONE THING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING THERE.

IT STARTS AT THE BEGINNING OF DOLPHIN MAYBE GOES IN TWO HOUSES, THREE HOUSES.

IN ONE OF THE HOUSES, THE FIRST ONE UP, DAVID WEBB.

HE'S THE GUY WHO JUST WATERED THE DRILLING CONTRACT FOR THE WATER.

THE $6 MILLION CONTRACT.

HE IS I THINK SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM THERE, BECAUSE HE PUT IN A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY AND CONCRETE AROUND HIS HOUSE, AND THAT WATER IS ALL COMING OFF ON THE ROAD AND THERE'S NO DRAINAGE THERE.

HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE SWALES THERE.

YOU'RE NOT ASKING DAVID TO PAY FOR THAT.

AND I'M NOT ASKING HIM TO PAY FOR IT.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT DRAINS IN THERE, YOU GOT TO MAKE A PROVISION FOR THE ROAD TO BE THERE.

THOSE CATCH BASINS MAY NEED TO BE OVER FOUR FEET SO YOU CAN PUT THE ROAD IN THERE, AND I WOULD SUGGEST YOU PUT THE ROAD IN.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASSESS ANYBODY, ASSESS DAVID YOU SEE HOW HE LIKES THAT.

ANYWAY, THAT'S MY THOUGHT FOR TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

>> KRISTEN HUTTON, AFTER KRISTEN, IT'S WAYNE PAULSEN.

>> KRISTEN HUTTON, THROUGH A FIVE SECOND STREET.

I FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND FRANK KIDS ROSE THEN AMAZING AT TRYING TO WORK WITH ME AND REALLY JUST BEING A LIAISON BETWEEN ALL OF THE IDEAS AND LOFTY GOALS I HAVE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY, PEDIATRIC CRISIS, I'LL CALL IT, AND PAINT GARDEN SOUTH.

I KNOW EVERY SHELL TO ALL OF YOU AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE OF YOU WHO HAD MADE TIME AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T,

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PLEASE COME SIT ON MY PORCH AT THE COUNSELORS HOUSE AND HAVE A COFFEE OR TEA WITH ME AND JUST DURING THE PEAK HOUR WALK TO SCHOOL FOR THOSE KIDS.

I AM NOT MAKING IT UP.

IT IS A BIG DEAL.

THESE ARE SURVEYS FROM JUPITER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PARENTS THAT CONFIRM THERE IS AN ISSUE.

AS I PROMISED, AS A ADJUNCT INSTRUCTOR AT FAU, I AM WORKING WITH MY STUDENTS TO GIVE YOU HOPEFULLY A GIFT OF SHOVEL-READY GRANT, IF YOU WILL.

I CAN'T SUBMIT IT. I'M NOT THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

I HOPE THAT YOU'LL TAKE THAT GRANT AND BE ABLE TO APPLY IT TO SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

NOT ONLY THE FDOT GRANT, WHICH IS THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, BUT HOPEFULLY TPA GRANTS, MY STUDENTS ARE WORKING EXTREMELY HARD AND CREATING CONTENT THAT IS REUSABLE, PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, EVERYTHING GETS POLISHED AND REFINED BY ME, AND SO IT IS A LEGITIMATE EFFORT.

I AM A RESOURCE.

PLEASE USE ME.

I AM HERE. YOU JUST TELLING ME WHAT YOU NEED.

YOU NEED PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. I'LL MAKE SURE PEOPLE SHOW UP.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS OR PUBLIC FORUMS FOR THIS PROCESS NEXT SEMESTER.

I APPRECIATE MR. HERNANDEZ IS SUPER BUSY AND HE HAS ALSO BEEN AMAZING AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE APPROVED DURING THE WORST, HE'S A BUSY GUY.

I HAVE NOT BOTHERED HIM AS MUCH AS I DID A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IN HOPES THAT WE CAN JUST GET THIS GOING NEXT YEAR HOPEFULLY.

AGAIN, PLEASE JOIN ME ANYTIME YOU ALL HAVE MY EMAIL, COME SIT ON THE COUNSELORS HOUSE PORCH THAT I'M SO BLESSED TO OWN AND ENJOY IT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS WALKING IN THE STREET.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THE EFFORT IS ONGOING.

I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN IT.

I WILL NOT PUT IT DOWN.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S YOUR DECISION, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANKS.

>> WAYNE POSTER.

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, MAYOR, HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE.

JUST IN CASE I FORGET, I FORGET THINGS SOMETIMES.

WHEN POSNER 315 KARINA, JUPITER, FLORIDA, SO APPROPRIATE, I CAME HERE TONIGHT AND TPA SHOWED UP.

I GOT TO SAY THE MAYOR HERE PROBABLY KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE TPA THAN EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN BECAUSE SHE'S BELONGED TO THAT SYSTEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND HE KNOWS HOW IT WORKS.

WE DO HAVE THE LAST SAY, AS YOU SAID, IN THE DESIGN FACTOR, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING FOR US ONE AND JUST ONE COMMENT ON THAT ROYAL PALMS I HEARD THAT MENTIONED THERE KIND OF A LITTLE DANGEROUS.

I RIDE MY BIKE FIVE DAYS A WEEK ALL OVER THE TOWN, AND THE ROYAL PALMS HAVE THIS REALLY LARGE BRANCHES.

WHEN THEY FALL DOWN, THEY COULD KILL YOU.

HOPEFULLY THEY DO SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES ROYAL PALM SORRY TO SAY.

I REALLY CAME HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT MY FRIEND ANDY.

ANDY IS REALLY NOT MY CLOSE FRIEND, I MET HIM MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING AND HE BECAME MY FRIEND.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND.

AGAIN, I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES, HE'S A VIETNAM VETERAN AS WELL.

HIS WIFE IS DISABLED.

IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

I CAN'T HONE IN ON THAT ENOUGH.

WE'VE DONE A LOT FOR THE VETERANS.

WE HAVE A VETERANS MEMORIAL.

IT'S VERY NICE TO HONOR OUR VETERANS, AS WE ALL KNOW.

BUT HERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY DO FOR A VETERAN IN OUR TOWN WHO'S PAID HIS TAXES AND CERTAINLY HAS PAID HIS DUES.

WE REALLY NEED TO RETHINK THIS.

WE'RE DOING ALL THESE ROADS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING STUFF FROM US1 FOR THE BIKE LANES, FOR ALL THESE THINGS, AND IT'S ONE ROAD, ONE TOWN, ONE PLACE, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER MAJOR STREETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE IN THE TOWN, IT'S TIME TO INVEST IN OUR PEOPLE.

THERE'S ONLY 38 HOMES THERE.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

THERE'S NOT A LINE OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT WANT THEIR STREET FIXED.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS.

THERE'S NO SKIN IN THE GAME FOR ME.

BUT I FEEL IN MY HEART THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR VETERANS BESIDES BUILDING MEMORIALS AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S GIVEN HIS LIFE TOWARDS THE COUNTRY.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT, PLEASE TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.

PLEASE HONOR HIS HARD WORK AND HIS EFFORT TO GET THIS THING DONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THAT WAS THE LAST ONE.

>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE TO THE MINUTES.

COUNCIL YOU DO HAVE BEFORE YOU A SMALL REVISION ON THE DIETS.

[5. November 15, 2022 Town Council Special Meeting Minutes. [TAB 4]]

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I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SAY, OTHER SIDE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE IS AMENDED?

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE, MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, THIS IS ITEM SIX TO NINE, IS ANYBODY ON THE DIETS WANTS TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

SEEING THAT ANYBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE?

>> NO, MA'AM.

>> NO. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> MOVE.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, I'D ASK TOWN ATTORNEY TO READ ORDINANCE 12: 22.

>> ORDINANCE 12: 22, AND NORTON INTO THE TOWN COUNCIL TOWN OF JUPITER FLORIDA, CONSENTING TO THE INCLUSION OF LAND WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER INTO A PALM BEACH COUNTY MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT FOR FIRE RESCUE, EMERGENCY MEDICAL, AND OTHER RELATED SERVICES.

PROVIDING FOR INTENT, PURPOSE, AND EFFECT, PROVIDING FOR CONSENT, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF LAWS AND CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF LAW ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM UNDER PUBLIC BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER 10, I TURN IT OVER TO THE TOWN MANAGER OR STAFF. SHE'S COMING

[10.Approving the reallocation of unspent Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds of $197,000 and CDBG-CV funds of $271,588.59. [TAB 9]]

>> GOOD EVENING. SUBOXONE AND WIDTH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

I WAS HERE EARLIER PRACTICING, FINDING MY PRESENTATION AND HERE IT IS.

PERFECT. SO GOOD EVENING, SUBTLE OKSANA WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES HERE TO TALK ABOUT REALLOCATION OF SOME UNPROGRAMMED CDBG FUNDING.

WHAT IS CDBG FUNDING? SO CDBG STANDS FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.

AND THIS IS FUNDING THAT IS PROVIDED FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER BY HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, HUD, THIS IS AN APPLICATION PROCESS, SO THE TOWN APPLIES FOR FUNDING.

AND HUD PUTS US THROUGH THE HOUSING STOCK, THE NUMBER OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE, THERE IS A FORMULA, SO THEY COME UP WITH A NUMBER, OR A NUMBER HAS TYPICALLY BEEN ABOUT 300,000 A YEAR.

WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH GIVING MUNICIPALITIES CDBG FUNDING IS BASICALLY THESE THREE THINGS AND IT'S AWKWARD LANGUAGE, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH DECENT HOUSING, SUITABLE LIVING ENVIRONMENTS, AND EXPANDED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

SO HOW DO WE QUALIFY? WELL, THERE IS A FORMULA, LIKE I SAID, THEY LOOK UP THE EXTENT OF POVERTY HERE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, THE POPULATION, AND THE AGE OF OUR HOUSING STOCK.

SO WE GET ABOUT A 300,000 A YEAR.

IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

USED TO BE MORE MONEY.

IT SEEMS TO BE LESS MONEY EVERY YEAR.

SO 300,000 IS WHAT WE GET, AND 20 PERCENT OF THAT CAN BE USED FOR PLANNING AND ADMIN FUNCTIONS.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY SOME UNPROGRAMMED CDBG FUNDING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN GOOD USE BEFORE, THERE IS A RISK OF LOSING ANY OF THIS FUNDING.

WE ANNUALLY DO AN ACTION PLAN.

WE IDENTIFY THE PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT THEN THINGS HAPPEN.

WHAT RECENTLY HAPPENED WAS THE PANDEMIC.

WE HAD TO SCRAP SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAS LEFT SOME UNPROGRAMMED FUNDING.

THIS IS NOT FUNDING THAT IS CURRENTLY SITTING ON ANY ACCOUNT HERE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

IT IS FUNDING THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A PROJECT THAT IS ELIGIBLE AND WE AGREE ON AND WE WILL GET REIMBURSED FOR THE COST OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE 197,000 IN OUR REGULAR CDBG LINE OF CREDIT US, I LIKE TO CALL IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL UPFRONT GRANT THE FROM HOT TO US.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF PROJECTS LIKE I SAID, WHEN PANDEMIC HAPPENED, THINGS BECAME VERY EXPENSIVE.

THESE JUST WEREN'T FEASIBLE.

ALSO WE HAD A PROJECT THAT WE WERE THINKING AT THE TIME WAS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO PURSUE.

[01:00:02]

IT WAS ACTUALLY HAND SANITIZING STATIONS IN TOWN PARKS.

BUT AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THE VIRUS AND ALL THAT, SOME OF THESE THINGS JUST BECAME OBSOLETE.

WE HAD 197,000 IN REGULAR CDBG AND WE HAVE 271 AND SOME OTHER DOLLARS IN OUR COVID FUNDS.

AND THIS WAS A SPECIAL ALLOCATION WE GOT DUE TO COVID.

AND LIKE I SAID, ALL THESE FUNDS WERE ALREADY ALLOCATED BUT PROJECTS GOT CANCELED.

ONE OF THEM WAS THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL EXPANSION OF MY CLINIC, AND THAT LEFT SOME MONEY ON THE TABLE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO NOW TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

WE HAVE SEVEN YEARS TO SPEND, TYPICALLY WHEN WE GET AN ALLOCATION FROM HUD, AND SEVEN YEARS SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME, BUT LIKE WE HEARD EARLIER, THINGS A LOT OF TIMES CONSTRUCTION THINGS TAKE A LOT OF TIME.

SO THERE IS SEVEN YEARS TO SPEND THE FUNDS, BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE THAN 1.5 TIMES THE ANNUAL ALLOCATION AT OUR LINE OF CREDIT AT ANY TIME.

SO THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO, OF MAKE SOME DECISIONS AT THIS POINT, SO WE CAN MOVE THESE FUNDS AND WE'RE NOT AT RISK OF LOSING THIS LINE OF CREDIT.

AND THE CDBG CV FUNDS, THESE WERE ONE TIME THING, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY NO SEVEN YEARS.

THIS MONEY WILL OR THE LINE OF CREDIT WILL EXPIRE THIS UPCOMING JUNE IF WE DON'T COME UP WITH A SHOVEL READY PROJECT TO EXPAND.

THE STAFF HAS FORMED A CDBG TASKFORCE.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD IT, SOMETIMES WE WE MEET MORE OFTEN.

NOW BECAUSE OF THESE UNPROGRAMMED FUNDS, WE STARTED MEETING MONTHLY AND WE HAVE BEEN BRAINSTORMING AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH GOOD WAYS TO USE THE FUNDS.

WHAT WE DECIDED AS A GROUP IS WHAT IS NOT ONLY FEASIBLE AND QUICK.

OBVIOUSLY STILL, FOLLOWING THE REGULAR GUIDELINES AND FEDERAL REGULATION OF WHO NEEDS TO BENEFIT FROM THESE DOLLARS, IT'S ALWAYS LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE.

WE CAME UP WITH SOME IDEAS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THESE UNPROGRAMMED FUNDS IN SOME PROJECTS THAT WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE.

WE HAVE A CURRENT CIP PROJECT.

IT IS TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF SALT LOCKS.

WE HAD A RESIDENT TALK ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC AREA, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO SPEND CDBG DOLLARS THERE.

THE BIDS CAME BACK VERY HIGH.

THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE SOME OF THAT UNPROGRAMMED FUNDING TO ACTUALLY JUST INCREASE THE BUDGET OF THAT ALREADY APPROVED CIP PROJECT.

THE 197,000 THAT IS UNPROGRAMMED CDBG CURRENTLY SITTING ON OUR LINE OF CREDIT WOULD GO TO THAT PROJECT.

THEN THE SPECIFIC ONETIME COVID FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE 270, SOME EXTRA DOLLARS THERE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE.

WE HAVE A FANTASTIC, REALLY REALLY GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH A LOCAL NON-PROFIT CALLED PEARL MAE FOUNDATION.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE DAVID KRELL, HE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HE IS SITTING HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

HE WANTED TO JUST BE HERE.

BUT I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC SUCCESS STORY HERE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

WHAT THEY STARTED TO DO IS THEY STARTED FEEDING SENIORS DURING COVID AND THEY'RE STILL CONTINUING TO FEED OUR LOW-INCOME SENIORS HERE IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

THEY HAVE DONE PHENOMENAL JOB WITH ALL THE PANDEMIC, ALL THE CONSTRAINTS AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND RISING COSTS, THEY'RE DOING FANTASTIC JOB.

SO THE TASK FORCE WAS PRETTY UNANIMOUS THAT WE'D LOVE TO CONTINUE TO FUND THEM AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE FUNDING UNTIL JUNE WHEN THIS FUNDING EXPIRES.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE $63,000 AND THAT WOULD HELP THEM FEED HUNDRED SENIORS MONTHLY UNTIL JUNE.

THESE COVID FUNDS THEY HAVE TO HAVE A DIRECT TIE BACK TO THE VIRUS.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY BECOMING, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE THAT TIE BACK.

WHAT IS THE CONNECTION TO COVID? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MITIGATE, TO ASSIST WITH PREVENTION OR MITIGATION OF THE VIRUS?

[01:05:03]

ONE OF THE ELIGIBLE ITEMS THAT WE CAN USE THE FUNDING UNDER IS ACTUALLY OUTDOOR RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES.

WE HAVE SOME PARKS IN OUR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME AREAS HERE IN THE TOWN.

WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AND THEY ARE CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE THIS MONEY THERE TO PROVIDE THAT OUTDOOR EXERCISE OR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IN SOME OF THE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME AREAS HERE IN THE TOWN.

THESE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE AND WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR APPROVAL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I GUESS ONE QUESTION WOULD BE FOR THE SOUTH LOX HEALTHY AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, I'VE SPOKEN WITH MISS HOUGHTON BEFORE AND I KNOW SHE'S BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THOMAS HERNANDEZ AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH HER RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE BECAUSE I'VE SEEN WHAT SHE IS PROPOSING AND I FEEL IT'S A PRETTY GOOD IDEA THAT SOMEONE WHO DOES HAVE DIRECT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS TO HOW TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY AND THE AESTHETICS OF THE AREA.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING ALONG WITH HER AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT HER AND HER STUDENTS HAVE DONE TO IMPROVE THE AREA ON [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES. WELL THOMAS CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING TOGETHER.

>> OKAY.

>> CURRENTLY AND AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, THOMAS HERNANDEZ IS DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING IN PUBLIC WORKS.

THE SOUTH LOX HEALTHY AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IS A CURRENT CIP.

MATTER OF FACT, THE FIRST CONCRETE FLOOR IS TAKING PLACE ON THURSDAY.

IT IS TAKING PLACE CURRENTLY, IT'S ALREADY AN AWARDED PROJECT.

WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY SO2 AS WELL AS THE CDBG TASK FORCE IS THAT BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED THE PROJECT WAS BUDGETED AT ROUGHLY $285,000.

WHEN THE BIDS CAME IN, THEY WERE OVER 400.

WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING OR WHAT I HAD RECOMMENDED TO THE TASK FORCE SO WE COULD PUT IT BEFORE THE COUNCIL WOULD BE TO TAKE ANYTHING THAT I HAD SET UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALKS, ANY MINOR STREET RESURFACING ITEMS WHICH WERE BASICALLY TAKEN MOSTLY OUT OF IT BUT THERE WERE A FEW MINOR ITEMS AS WELL AS, CURRENTLY WE HAVE OUR COLLECTIVE ROADWAY LIGHTING IS ALSO HELPING TO SUPPLEMENT THE ADDITIONAL BEYOND WHAT WAS CDBG FUNDING.

WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING WOULD BE TO BASICALLY TAKE THE TOWN'S FUNDS, AND ENCUMBER THOSE AND THEN PUT THOSE TOWARDS THE ADDITIONAL CDBG AMOUNT TOWARDS THE ACTUAL PROJECT ITSELF.

I'VE HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH TOWN STAFF.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO ENCUMBER LET'S SAY THE NEIGHBORHOODS SIDEWALKS, THAT WOULD GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO PUT THAT MORE TOWARDS OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN THE TOWN.

I'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BASICALLY GETTING SURVEYS FOR THE LOCATIONS LIKE MISS HOUGHTON WAS TALKING ABOUT.

WE MET WITH MISS HOUGHTON INITIALLY WITH FRANK AND OTHER STAFF, WAS ESSENTIALLY TO WORK ON ONE STREET AND TRY A TEST SECTION AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

THE OTHER PART IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

NOT JUST NECESSARILY THE PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE SCHOOL THERE AND I KNOW SHE'S SOLICITED PUBLIC INPUT BUT JUST MAKING SURE AS WELL THAT ONCE I CAN GET THE SURVEY, WE CAN DEAL WITH THE STORM WATER AND WE CAN DEAL WITH ALL THE OTHER ITEMS. IT'S NOT EASY TO JUST THROW THE SIDEWALKS OUT THERE IN A COMMUNITY LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO DEAL WITH STORM WATER WHERE SOME OF THE UTILITIES ARE AND SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT WOULD BE DEALT WITH.

IF WE WERE TO TAKE THEM OFF OF OUR CURRENT CIP, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DEVOTE SOME OTHER FUNDS AS WELL BACK INTO OTHER TOWN LOCATIONS AND USE THOSE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK FUNDS TO ACTUALLY DO A SURVEY OF THE AREA AND GET IT ROLLING AND WE COULD BRING FORWARD A CIP IN THE FUTURE.

>> LET'S TAKE ONE FOLLOW UP.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND SHOULD BE COMING UP, BUT I DID HEAR THAT IT SAID THAT APPLYING FOR A GRANT.

I KNOW THAT ON THE TPA THERE ARE SPECIFIC GRANTS FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, IT NEVER GET REALLY APPLIED FOR.

THERE IS A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT UNIQUE.

WHAT I DON'T KNOW WITH THE SPECIFICS, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO LEVERAGE TO THE MAXIMUM WHAT YOU CAN GET TO THAT PROGRAM, WHICH IS IN FACT INTENDED FOR THAT PURPOSE.

THAT'S NOT EVERY KID ON EVERY STREET BUT THE SAFE ROUTE TO THE SCHOOL.

WAS SHE TIED IT IN, WHEN SHE SAID SHE'S GOT GRANT APPLICATION? I'M EXPECTING IT'S GOING TO BE A SUCCESSFUL ONE.

YEAH, WE'D BE THE ONE SUBMITTING IT BUT I JUST

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WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT BECAUSE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD BRING THAT, NO IT IS A PRIORITY, BUT [INAUDIBLE] THAT I'D COMMENT ON THIS AT THE TPA RECENTLY BECAUSE WE'RE ONCE AGAIN GOING THROUGH THE, WE ESTABLISHED THE EVALUATION CRITERIA AND THAT ONE IS ALWAYS VALUED.

I'M EXCITED TO HELP TO APPLY FOR THAT GRANT MONEY AND LET'S SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

BUT I GUESS WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT HERE AND IT'S GOING TO COME UP.

I SAW YOU PULLING THE CARD.

>> FOR REFERENCE, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS IS THE GRANT THAT MISS HOUGHTON WAS PROPOSING.

>> THANK YOU.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. AGAIN, THOMAS IS GREAT.

HE LISTENS TO ALL MY BIG IDEAS WITH GREAT PATIENCE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

YES. SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL IS SPECIFIC TO A TWO MILE RADIUS AROUND THE SCHOOL.

THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT PINE GARDEN SOUTH IS THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS THAT IT COULD SATISFY.

I DO THINK IT HAS A VERY HIGH PROBABILITY OF YIELDING SOME MONEY, AT WHAT POINT, I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE BEEN TOLD IT'S NOT INCREDIBLY COMPETITIVE.

AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M HOPING THAT IF I HAND THIS TOWN A GRANT THAT IS READY TO SUBMIT TO DOT THAT WE CAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY FALSE ILLUSIONS THAT THAT'S GOING TO FUND STREETS ONE THROUGH EIGHT.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT BUT AGAIN, THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE ARE CREATING WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRANTS.

THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING SO MUCH EFFORT INTO IT WITH MY STUDENTS.

THIS IS NOT A ONE SHOT DEAL, THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED FOR HUD HA'S COMPLETE STREETS, DOT, AND THE FLORIDA FWA.

THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRANTS THIS DATA AND THIS WORK COULD ACTUALLY BE UTILIZED FOR, SAFE ROUTES IS JUST ONE PART OF FUNDING.

THAT SAID, ON THIRD AND FORTH STREET, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, THAT HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS.

TWO ONE-HOUR PERIODS ARE PEAK WHEN STUDENTS ARE WALKING TO AND FROM, JUST ON THIRD AND FOURTH STREET ALONE, YOU HAVE 160 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGED PEDESTRIANS.

JUST IN TWO HOURS ON ONE STREET.

THAT'S ONE STREET EACH ACTUALLY.

AGAIN, I INVITE YOU TO JUST SIT ON, SECOND STREET WE DO HAVE WALKERS BUT IT'S NOTHING LIKE THIRD AND FORTH.

I APPRECIATE THE FAST PACED PRESSURE THAT STAFF IS UNDER WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, I DO. I GET IT.

YOU GUYS LIKE, OH, YOU HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY, WHICH IS A GREAT PROBLEM.

YOU HAVE TO SPEND IT.

I WOULD JUST ASK THAT A HUGE PART OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT IS PUBLIC INPUT.

I HAVE ATTENDED THREE YEARS OF MEETINGS ASKING FOR STREET TREES, ASKING FOR SIDEWALKS AND I GET IT.

IT'S A PROCESS BUT INSTEAD OF FUNDING POTENTIALLY PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, COULD WE PLEASE JUST CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE? OUTDOOR RECREATION MEETS THE DEFINITION OF MAYBE LET'S PAVE THROUGH WITH THE ALLEYS, THIRD AND FOURTH STREET WHERE IT HAS THE HIGHEST YIELD OF PEDESTRIANS.

IT'S A TOWN OWNED RIGHT AWAY.

THERE'S NOT MUCH TO IT.

YOU GOT TO GRADE IT AND YOU COULD PAVE IT.

I KNOW THOMAS'S PLAY SIDE EYEING ME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE ON HIS DESK, POTENTIALLY.

I GET IT. PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS EASY.

IT'S WRITING A CHECK. IT'S EASY.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF STAFF TIME INVOLVED.

BUT I GUESS, SEEING WHAT I SAW AND THE DATA I HAVE, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

IF WE CAN JUST RECONSIDER AND MAYBE PAVE A COUPLE OF ALLEYS THAT'S A BACKUP, THAT'D BE GREAT.

BUT THAT'S ALL I CAN ASK.

>> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU'RE LEVERAGING THE ENERGY OF YOUR STUDENTS TO PUT TOGETHER THE DATA TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT.

BUT AS A GOVERNMENT, IT'S ALWAYS INCUMBENT UPON US TO MAKE SURE WE LEVERAGE EVERY GRANT OPPORTUNITY FIRST BECAUSE THAT'S COMING FROM OUR RESIDENTS ANYWAY AND OTHER TAXES BEFORE WE EARMARK FROM SOME AD VALOREM TAXES.

THANK YOU. I'M CONFIDENT AS YOU ARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR THAT.

>> MAYBE MORE HOPEFULLY [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL, WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? CAN I HAVE A MOTION.

>> MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND TO PROVE THE REALLOCATION OF AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE ROUND TABLE ON DISCUSSING TOWN STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[11.Discussing the Town’s Strategic Planning Process. [TAB 10]]

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KATE MORRETO, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, NOT NECESSARILY OUR ACTUAL STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT I'M USUALLY UP HERE TALKING WITH YOU ABOUT BUT THE PROCESS BEHIND HOW THAT STRATEGIC PLAN GETS UPDATED AND CREATED EACH YEAR.

THIS WAS PART OF YOUR 2022-2023 LIST OF STRATEGIC INITIATIVES IN YOUR ADOPTED STRATEGIC PLAN AS YOU RECALL, AND WHAT YOU'D ASKED WAS THAT WE REVIEW AND REVISE THE ANNUAL STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE IN THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR ADOPTED STRATEGIC PLAN THAT I THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE WHERE THAT WE REVISE THE PROCESS TO INCLUDE SOME MORE LONG-TERM PLANNING.

THAT WE INCLUDE A DELIBERATIVE PRIORITIZATION PROCESS, AND THAT WE HAVE AN ALLOWANCE TO SHIFT THE TIMING TO AVOID CONFLICT WITH THE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS.

I THINK EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR WE WERE A BIT DELAYED IN ADOPTING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND THAT WAS FOR GREAT REASON BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO IN THE PROCESS, WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU IS, IF WE COULD SHIFT IN ANY WAY TO AVOID THAT SITUATION IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST START BY GROUNDING US IN THE CURRENT PROCESS.

OUR CURRENT PROCESS IS BUILT UPON IDEA THAT WE USUALLY USE AN ANALOGY OF A HOUSE TO DESCRIBE.

THE ELEMENTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUILD UPON EACH OTHER AND ARE TOPPED WITH THE ROOF WHICH OVERSEES EVERYTHING AND GUIDES EVERYTHING WHICH IS OUR VISION AND OUR MISSION.

OUR CURRENT PROCESS USUALLY INVOLVES REVIEWING THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S PLAN, MAKING SUGGESTIONS ON NEW AND UPDATED ITEMS AND USING A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS TO ESTABLISH THE FINAL ADOPTED PLAN.

THEN AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU ADOPT THAT PLAN AND STAFF USES THAT TO CREATE THEIR PROPOSALS FOR THE BUDGET AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT THEN IS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU AND WORKSHOPS OVER THE SUMMER.

THERE IS THAT LINKAGE BETWEEN WHAT'S IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHAT YOU SAY IS IMPORTANT AND PRIORITIZED FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT ARE FINANCIAL PLAN REPRESENTS.

IN LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT PROCESS JUST VISUALLY, THIS LAYS OUT THE BASIC TIMING.

TYPICALLY, WE'LL START ON STATUS REPORTS AND PRELIMINARY WORK ON WHAT THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGE AND ARE PLANNED IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, SO RIGHT AROUND NOW.

IN JANUARY WE'LL HOLD A WORKSHOP AND WE'LL DO SOME REVIEW OF THE INPUTS THAT WE GATHER IN THOSE WORKSHOPS AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH ANOTHER WORKSHOP TO HONE IN. GO AHEAD, JIM.

>> WELL, WHEN YOU FINISH ON THIS I'VE GOT A COMMENT THEN.

>> THEN WHEN WE GET THROUGH OUR SECOND STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP AND WE GO THROUGH A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS, WE THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL ADOPTION JUST TO PUT A BAR ON IT AND TO SAY THAT IT IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'LL ALL BE WORKING ON FOR THE YEAR.

>> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THESE TWO SLIDES SAYING WHAT THE CURRENT PROCESS IS AND WHICH MEANT WE HAVE A PRACTICE, NOT NECESSARILY A PROCESS AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE.

I'D ALSO SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE, THIS WAS SUGGESTED BY, I CERTAINLY SUPPORT TALKING ABOUT THIS FROM OUR NEWER MEMBERS BUT INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE OF IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANGE THAT IT BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT TO OPEN IT UP WIDER TO RECONSIDER BECAUSE IF EVERYBODY UP HERE WAS INVOLVED WITH THE SETTING OF IT, LET'S SAY THREE YEARS AGO, YOU'D BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE BASIS.

CERTAINLY WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE AND THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR INPUT.

I'LL SUGGEST EVEN ANNA, YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS, BUT THINK ABOUT THE SUGGESTION THAT WE GO FROM AN ANNUAL TO LONGER-TERM PLAN.

I CAN TELL YOU EVEN I'VE BEEN ALONG THIS ONE UP HERE.

IT'S FRUSTRATING HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DO SOMETHING.

I DON'T THINK ANY NEW COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD WANT TO COME IN, AND LAST YEAR WE DID A THREE-YEAR PLAN, YOU CAN HAVE INPUT TO TWO YEARS, SO THERE'S SOME PRACTICALITIES ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO IT.

WE ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE A LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE PUSHING FOR WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH TO BE HAPPENING SOONER THAN LATER.

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ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT BECAUSE I'D ASKED THIS QUESTION EARLIER.

YOU HAD THE LAST BULLET ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THAT IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP PRESENTATIONS AND INCLUDED A TABLE OF WHERE EACH INITIATIVE IS FUNDED IN EITHER THE OPERATING OR CAP SO I ASKED YOU TO PROVIDE IT AND COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT MY PERCEPTION IS THAT WAS A TABLE YOU'RE CORRECT ABOUT WHERE THINGS WERE FUNDED BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF ONES WHERE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE FUNDED.

I SUBMIT THAT IN ITSELF IS AN IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I WAS ASKING DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, THE ITEMS THAT I HAD.

WHERE IS IT IN THE BUDGET? I THINK IT NEEDS TO HAVE A MUCH, MUCH MORE VISIBLE PLACE AND THAT WOULD MEAN EVERY SINGLE ITEM IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, RATHER THAN RELYING UPON A COUNCIL MEMBER TO CHECK IF IT WAS IN THERE.

I'M NOT CRITICIZING THIS WORKSHOP, THIS ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION IS TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS.

THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO CREATE AMONG OTHERS.

THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO CREATE AN AWARENESS THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE ALL AGREED TO IN APRIL OR WHENEVER IT WAS IS IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE HONESTLY, I COME OUT OF IT NOT KNOWING IF IT IS AND WHERE IT IS.

YES I ASKED A QUESTION.

IT'S ON A FEW OF THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON ALL OF THEM.

I DO THINK TO DEGREE I DON'T WANT SOMEONE WHO INTERPRET THAT LAST BULLET TO SUGGEST THAT THERE'S A TABLE WHERE EVERYTHING IS FUNDED BECAUSE IT WAS NOT RIGHT.

I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL. I JUST WANT TO POINT IT OUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE REST OF THE DISCUSSIONS.

>> YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK THIS WILL BE ADDRESSED LATER IN THE PRESENTATION AND THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS, HERE WE ARE COMING UP WITH STRATEGIC ITEMS IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY ADOPTING IT IN MARCH ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT PROCESS AND THEN WE BEGAN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

ON MY BACKGROUNDS FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT, FROM USAID FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BILLION-DOLLAR PAID PROJECT IN HAITI AND IT WAS ALWAYS LINKED.

IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT PARADIGM, BUT ALWAYS WANTING TO PUT THE FUNDING BOTH AT HISTORICAL VIEW AND THAT'S WHAT I HAD ASKED FOR STAFF FOR THIS BUDGET GO AROUND WAS, WHERE ARE ALL THE STRATEGIC ITEMS AND HOW ARE THEY LINKED TO THE BUDGET.

I'M GRATEFUL TO OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER THIS YEAR.

I KNOW WE'LL GET INTO THAT LATER, BUT IT IS A PRIORITY.

>> SURE [NOISE]

>> [NOISE] JUST FOR PURPOSES OF ORGANIZING THE POSSIBILITIES AND IDEAS FOR TONIGHT'S WORKSHOP, I BROKE IT DOWN INTO THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.

NOW OF COURSE, WITHIN EACH OF THESE OPTIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS [NOISE] THAT COULD BE COMBINED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE RIGID IN ANY WAY IN THAT RESPECT, SO LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT THERE.

BUT WE COULD MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT PROCESS.

WE HAVE AN OPTION TO ENHANCE THE CURRENT PROCESS AND I'VE PUT DOWN SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT FOR YOU ALL COMING UP.

THEN WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A RADICAL CHANGE IN SHIFT TO A LONGER-TERM PROCESS WITH AN ANNUAL UPDATE, BUT LOOKING LONGER-TERM AT WHEN WE DO WHOLESALE UPDATES TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE IDEAS ON THAT.

OPTION 2, I'M CALLING AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE CURRENT PROCESS.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER IN DOING THIS TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT PROCESS WOULD BE TO SHIFT THE TIMELINE TO BEGIN OUR PROCESS EARLIER.

WE COULD SPEND SOME ADDITIONAL TIME UPFRONT ON THE MORE STRATEGIC ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN, WHAT WE CALL THE STRATEGIC RESULTS AND THEIR DEFINITIONS, EVEN THE VISION AND MISSION.

VISION AND MISSIONS DON'T TYPICALLY CHANGE ANNUALLY, BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN IT'S GOOD TO REVIEW THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE AREN'T THINGS THAT NEED TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT DIFFERENTLY OR UPDATED, ETC.

ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS TO IN THAT UPFRONT PROCESS, TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN, AND MAKE USE OF A LOT MORE OF THE DATA THAT THE TOWN ACTUALLY HAS AVAILABLE TO IT.

WE DO RELY PRETTY HEAVILY ON OUR CITIZENS SURVEY AND OUR FINANCIAL DATA.

BUT WE ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU START TO STEP BACK AND THINK ABOUT IT, HAVE A LOT OF OTHER MONTHLY REPORTS, QUARTERLY REPORTS, MASTER PLANS, AND OTHER TYPES OF REPORTS, AND TREND DATA THAT WE COULD TRY TO SYNTHESIZE AND LOOK AT FOR GUIDING US IN WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT TO EITHER IMPROVE OR ADD OR TAKE ON IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THEN OF COURSE, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO A STATUS UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CURRENT INITIATIVES BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, MANY OF THOSE CONTINUE THROUGH TIME AND SOMETIMES THEY REMAIN ON OUR PLAN FOR SEVERAL YEARS UNTIL THEY'RE COMPLETELY DONE.

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THEN LOOKING AT THAT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD PROBABLY YIELD A LOT MORE IDEAS THAN WE COULD PROBABLY ACCOMPLISH OR TAKE ON, THERE MAY BE A NEED TO SPLIT OUR PRIORITIZATION INTO A COUPLE OF PHASES.

WHAT I HAVE REFERRED TO HERE AS A CHALKBOARD PRIORITIZATION COULD BE PHASE 1, WHERE SOME OF THE OBVIOUS ELEMENTS THAT YOU ALL COULD QUICKLY AGREE ON SHOULDN'T PERHAPS MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME COULD BE ELIMINATED. YES.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> MAYBE WE SHOULD PAUSE AT EACH BULLET FOR COMMENTS.

>> SURE.

>> AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO PICK UP WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO.

>>I TYPICALLY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE END BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING] I VIEW IT DIFFERENTLY.

I VIEW IT AS A VERY BIG PICTURE,.

>> OKAY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I MAY REORGANIZE THE INFORMATION DIFFERENTLY.

>> THEN FINE. I WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT AND THEN I'LL HOLD IF THAT'S WHAT THE WISHES OF EVERYBODY.

BUT TAKING THESE INDIVIDUALLY, LIKE SHIFTING THE TIME AND TO BEGIN THE PROCESS EARLIER, AGAIN, I SUBMIT IT DEPENDS ON ELECTIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE SUGGESTING ONE THING FITS ALL.

NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER, YOU CAN DO THAT.

BUT THEN THAT'S WHY OUR OVERALL PROCESS IS TOO RIGID FOR THOSE MAY NOT REMEMBER, BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS FORCING US TO SLOW DOWN BECAUSE WE HAD AN ELECTION WITH POTENTIALLY NEW PEOPLE.

I WANT TO BE CAREFUL. THESE BULLETS OVER TO THEMSELVES.

YOU REALLY CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION TO DO THAT.

IT'S REALLY CONTINGENT AND IT WILL BE DIFFERENT EVERY YEAR.

BUT WITH THAT, I'LL HOLD UP.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT, I DON'T SEE US, YES, NO.

BECAUSE THAT ONE IS AN EXAMPLE.

YOU COULD DO IT AND SHOULD DO IT EARLIER, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSIVE OF A NEW MEMBER NOT HAVING A SAY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

>> WHILE I'VE SPLIT THESE INTO THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, THERE CERTAINLY ARE INTERCHANGEABLE ELEMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT ALL DECIDE TO IMPLEMENT OR NOT.

KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH.

SPENDING A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL TIME UPFRONT IS ONE OPTION WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA BEHIND THAT EFFORT.

JUST TO SUMMARIZE THAT FIRST PART.

THEN GOING THROUGH A FIRST PHASE OF PRIORITIZATION [NOISE] TO GET US TO SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF YOU AS A NEED TO GET US TO WHAT I'M CALLING UP THE FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS.

I'LL USE THAT TERM A LITTLE BIT LOOSELY BECAUSE I THINK AT THIS POINT IN ANY ESTIMATES ON RANGES OF COST, OR IMPACTS TO RESOURCES WOULD BE JUST THAT, THEY'D BE VERY HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATES.

BUT I THINK WHAT I HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF YOU IS THAT IT WOULD BE NICE GOING INTO THE FINAL PRIORITIZATION TO UNDERSTAND AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

TO UNDERSTAND THAT A PARTICULAR INITIATIVE WOULD TAKE A LOT MORE [NOISE] INITIATIVE.

THEY MAY TAKE A LOT MORE THAN INITIATIVE WOULD BE, BUT MIGHT YIELD A GREATER RESULT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT.

THEN MOVE INTO THAT FINAL PRIORITIZATION THAT WOULD BE MORE TRADITIONAL TO WHAT WE'VE DONE USING WHATEVER MECHANISM, WHETHER IT'S THE BOARD'S ON THE WALL WITH THE STICKIES, OR THE MORE ELECTRONIC PROCESS THAT WE USE THIS PAST YEAR, THE NET RESULT WOULD BE WHAT DOES THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WANT TO HAVE ON THE FINAL LIST OF STRATEGIC INITIATIVES FOR STAFF TO WORK ON AND INCORPORATE INTO THE FINANCIAL PLAN? SOMETHING ALSO THAT I HEARD SOME FEEDBACK ON AND SOME INPUT ON IS INCORPORATING INTO THE PROCESS A WAY TO GET CONSENSUS ACCEPTANCE OF NEW ITEMS IF THEY HAPPEN TO COME UP.

I'LL CALL IT MID CYCLE.

OFTEN THINGS DO COME UP THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY ISSUES WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, AND THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY WAIT FULLY UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR.

WE COULD CONSIDER SOMETHING THAT MORE FORMALLY, ADDED SOMETHING TO THE LIST AND LOOKED AT WHAT ELSE MIGHT NEED TO MOVE OUT TO ALLOW FOR THAT, AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CONSENSUS BY THE COUNCIL THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WANTED AND ACCEPTABLE.

ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, I'LL JUST MAKE THE COMMENT THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF EFFORTS, SO WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT SHIFT RESOURCES OR AUGMENT THEM PERHAPS, PARTICULARLY FOR SOME OF THAT RESEARCH AND INVESTIGATION UPFRONT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND ANALYSIS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? OKAY. I DID SHOW JUST A GRAPHICAL VIEW OF THE TIMELINE OF WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE.

AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHICH ELEMENTS OF IT WE DECIDED TO IMPLEMENT, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO START THIS AT LEAST IN SEPTEMBER AND MOVE IT BACK A COUPLE OF MONTHS RATHER, IN ORDER TO STILL END UP AT THAT END DATE IN MARCH SO THAT WE HAVE TIME TO INCORPORATE IT INTO THE FINANCIAL PLAN AS WE GO INTO THE SUMMER WORKSHOPS ON THE BUDGET AND THE CIP.

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OPTION 3, LOOKS AT A LITTLE BIT MORE RADICAL CHANGE TO OUR PROCESS.

SHIFTING TO A THREE-YEAR WHOLESALE UPDATE OF THE PLAN, BUT STILL LOOKING AT ANNUAL MINOR UPDATES AS WE GO ALONG TO WHAT I CALL THE WORK PLAN FOR STAFF.

WHAT THAT WOULD DO WOULD BE TO ALLOW US TO REALLY FOCUS EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS ON UPDATING THE HIGH-LEVEL STRATEGIC ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN AND RE-EXAMINE SOME OF THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND PERHAPS GET SOME COMMUNITY INPUT ON THAT, AND PERHAPS CONSIDER A MORE IN-DEPTH PROCESS FOR THAT ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ECONOMY, OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE AT THAT TIME.

WE COULD ALSO IN LINE WITH THIS, CONSIDER MOVING OUR CITIZENS SURVEY TO LINE UP WITH THAT THREE-YEAR CYCLE IF THAT WAS A DESIRE.

THEN WE WOULD IMPLEMENT AN ANNUAL WORK PLAN ROADMAP UPDATE, WHICH WOULD SHOW OUR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES OVER TIME, AND THE ONES THAT ARE PRIORITIZED SO THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO ALIGN THAT WITH THE OPERATING BUDGET AND THE CIP.

STILL REVIEW AND REVISE THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BECAUSE PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES TEND TO OCCUR MORE FREQUENTLY THAN EVERY THREE YEARS.

WE COULD STILL LOOK AT A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS TYPE OF PROCESS FOR THIS, AGAIN, AT THAT HIGH LEVEL TO GIVE YOU AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF WHAT THINGS MIGHT TAKE FROM A RESOURCE AND A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE WITHIN RANGES SO THAT THINGS CAN BE SOMEWHAT COMPARED BY YOU AS YOU'RE ANALYZING AND CONSIDERING WHAT MIGHT BE PRIORITIZED.

I THINK IN THIS CASE, IT'S AT LEAST WORTH CONSIDERING A CONSULTANT OR SOME THIRD PARTY TO COME IN AND MODERATE THAT EVERY THREE-YEAR PROCESS, ONLY BECAUSE IT LENDS A MORE OBJECTIVE POINT OF VIEW AND IT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF ASSISTANCE TO THAT HEAVIER LIFT FOR STAFF AS WELL.

THIS ONE ABSOLUTELY ALSO GETS US OUT OF THAT CYCLE OF DOING LARGE UPDATES ON ELECTION YEARS.

THE OTHER CHARTS LOOKED AT TIMING FROM A MONTHLY PERSPECTIVE, BUT THIS ONE GOES UP A LEVEL AND LOOKS AT IT FROM A YEAR PERSPECTIVE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT OFF ELECTION YEARS, WHICH ARE IN THAT LIGHT GREEN, WOULD BE THE YEARS IN WHICH WE WOULD DO THE LARGER UPDATE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN EVERY THREE YEARS WITH THE ANNUAL UPDATES OCCURRING IN-BETWEEN.

WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TONIGHT IN TERMS OF DIRECTION, WAS WHETHER OR NOT WHICH OPTION MIGHT BE WORTH PURSUING OR INVESTIGATING FURTHER OF THE THREE OPTIONS PRESENTED OR ELEMENTS, AS I SAID EARLIER, OF THOSE THINGS THAT MIGHT APPEAL TO YOU OR REQUIRE MORE INVESTIGATION FROM STAFF IN TERMS OF HOW THEY WOULD WORK.

THEN BASED ON THAT DIRECTION, SINCE WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT OUR NEXT UPDATE FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED IN THIS INTERIM TIME IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION FOR THIS COMING YEARS? STRATEGIC PLAN AND LIST OF STRATEGIC INITIATIVES AS WE GO INTO THAT.

THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION, I WON'T SPEND A TON OF TIME ON, THAT YOU WERE PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET TOO AND JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT THE WORK PLAN ROADMAP COULD LOOK LIKE OVER TIME.

THEN ALSO JUST SOME BENCHMARKING INFORMATION FOR YOU ON A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES IN OUR AREA AND HOW OFTEN THEY UPDATE THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND WHAT FORM IT TAKES.

WHAT I LEARNED FROM DOING SOME OF THAT, JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.

[LAUGHTER] EVERYBODY PURCHASE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, AND AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF FORMALITY AND PROCESS.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

[NOISE]

>> I THINK THE MAYOR WILL AGREE THAT.

I'VE BEEN ENJOYING OUR NEW FORMAT AFTER WE ADDED THE, OH, MY GOD.

>> THE ELECTRONIC?

>> NO. [LAUGHTER] I'M THINKING OF THE WORD.

>> CONSULTANT?

>> THE ADVISER OR THE-

>> CONSULTANT?

>> CONSULTANT. I'M TIRED. I'M SORRY. [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> WE HAD CONSULTANT FOR YEARS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS CLUMSY.

I'M ENJOYING THE NEW PLAN.

I WOULDN'T MIND MAYBE STARTING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, AND THEN IT SEEMS LIKE WE'D GET TO OUR FIRST ROUND TABLE AND WE'D ALL THROW UP OUR INITIATIVES, AND THEN STAFF WOULD BE LIKE, OH, MY GOD.

I THINK IF WE MET WITH STAFF BEFORE THEN AND SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS? GIVE US AN IDEA OF FUNDING, COST, IMPLEMENTATION, SCOPE AND ALL THAT.

I THINK THAT MIGHT GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE HEADS-UP AND THAT'S THE LITTLE IF SOMETHING WAS FEASIBLE OR NOT INSTEAD OF JUST SHOVING IT DOWN THEIR THROAT.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET TOO COMPLICATED.

I THINK IT'S FLOWING PRETTY WELL NOW.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE THREE-YEAR WITH THE CONSULTANT.

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AGAIN, I'M NOT TOO INTERESTED IN THAT.

I DON'T THINK I WANT TO GO BACK DOWN THAT ROAD, BUT I WOULDN'T MIND JUST STARTING A LITTLE EARLIER.

>> OKAY.

>> I LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT THE DATA AND THE CITIZEN SURVEY.

JUST USING ANY CURRENT DATA THE TOWN GENERATES OR WE GET ELSEWHERE JUST TO GET A REAL FEEL OF THE VIBE OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

THAT'S ABOUT IT. I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE, BUT MAYBE PULL IT BACK A LITTLE BIT.

>> THIS IS A BIG ITEM.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A TOOL.

IT'S OURS, IT CAN BE WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO BE AS LONG AS IT'S EFFECTIVE, AND IT CAN LOOK VERY DIFFERENT IN EACH COMMUNITY.

IT REALLY IS A CUSTOM BUILD FOR THIS COUNCIL TO ACCOMPLISH ITS GOALS.

BUT WITH NEW EYES ON THIS PROCESS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT SEEMS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT STAND OUT TO ME ARE ONE, WE DO IT EVERY JANUARY AND WHEN I ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, WHETHER IT'S REALITY OR NOT, IT APPEARS THAT THE IDEAS ARE ONLY COMING FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE TALKING TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BUT THE INPUT INTO THOSE STRATEGIC ITEMS IS COMING FROM A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.

I THINK JUST AS AN OVERALL PRINCIPLE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN AS KATE CALLED IT.

BECAUSE THEN YOU'VE GOT RESIDENT INPUT.

ARE WE LETTING RESIDENTS KNOW OUR TIMELINE FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING? BECAUSE I GET A MILLION SUGGESTIONS A DAY.

I'D LOVE TO ORGANIZE IT OR MOVE PEOPLE TO SPEAK AT THAT MEETING OR CONTRIBUTE SOMEHOW.

STAFF RECEIVED CALLS FROM RESIDENTS EVERY DAY FOR A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS.

THAT'S A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE THAT I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO.

THIS IS THE COUNCIL'S PROCESS, AND THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE CHECKED FOR FEASIBILITY, COST, RESOURCE, AND ULTIMATELY I THINK IT'S OUR DECISION AND PRIORITIZATION, BUT AGAIN ANOTHER INPUT.

WE HAD OUR BUSINESS COUNCIL, WE HAVE OUR NEW BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE, SO WHERE DOES BUSINESS STAND? I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO JUST HAVE MORE PEOPLE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROCESS.

IT MIGHT LEAD TO A NUMBER OF IDEAS THAT ARE INHERENTLY MORE STRATEGIC.

WHEN I THINK OF A STRATEGIC ITEM, I DO THINK OF LONG-TERM.

A LOT OF PEOPLE REMEMBER THE RIVERWALK.

RIVERWALK WAS MANY YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEFORE MY TIME.

A LOT OF PLANNING AND ZONING.

THAT WAS A BIG MOONSHOT VISION.

I WOULD LOVE GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR TO THINK ABOUT THIS COUNCIL REALLY HAVING THAT VISION, COMPREHENSIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOT HAVING IT BE SO MUCH ABOUT A PROJECT HERE, PROJECT THERE, BUT THE WHOLE BEING GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS IN A WAY, AND HAVING A COHESIVE VISION.

>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE SAID.

PART OF WHAT I WANTED IS TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOME VISION LONG-TERM PLANNING INTO IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE WHOLE THING HAS TO BE A LONG-TERM THREE-YEAR PLAN, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE AT SOME POINT THE ABILITY TO HAVE A VISION.

WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH X, Y, AND Z? THEN HAVING A LONG-TERM PLAN TO GET THERE.

I THINK YOU HAVE DIFFERENT ITEMS IN THE STRATEGIC PLANS.

SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE LONG TERM, LIKE THE RIVERWALK LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, AND OTHERS ARE GOING TO BE MORE SHORT-TERM.

BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS TO MOVE AWAY FROM WHAT I SEE ARE THESE DISJOINTED PROJECTS THAT BECOME PRIORITIES AND WE SAY THAT'S A PLAN. IT'S NOT A PLAN.

THOSE ARE JUST PRIORITIES AND THINGS WE THINK OF, WHICH IS FINE.

BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THE OTHER COMPONENT WHICH IS THE LONG-TERM THINKING, WHICH IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO APPLY TO EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK FOR ME I WANT TO SEE SOME ELEMENT OF THAT IN THERE.

>> THE FUNDING IS ALSO IMPORTANT.

HAVING SOME IDEA NOT JUST IN TERMS OF MONEY BECAUSE MONEY IS A PART OF IT AND THERE ARE SO MANY DEMANDS OUT THERE.

I MEAN WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT SIDEWALKS.

I WOULD LOVE SIDEWALKS IN PINE GARDEN SOUTH.

I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THE PASSION AND THE RESIDENT THAT SPOKE.

I'D LOVE TO MAKE THAT A STRATEGIC ITEM.

TOWN WIDE THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE AND THEN YOU WANT TO LOOK AT GRANTS, OBVIOUSLY.

[NOISE] THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

IT ADDRESSES A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOODS, EAST VIEW MANOR AS WELL A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE TALK ABOUT MAINTAINING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, IMPROVING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS WILDLY EXPENSIVE.

WE CAN'T JUST PUT THAT IN A PLAN, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE JUST ONE YEAR BUDGET OR AUDIT.

THE IDEA IS LIKE A LONG-TERM FUNDING OR FINANCE PLAN IN A WAY OR SOMEHOW INCORPORATING THAT BECAUSE,

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I REMEMBER IN, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN 2020 WHEN SCOTT CAME UP AND TALKED ABOUT, OH LOOK, HERE'S OUR REVENUE AND HERE OUR EXPENSES AND THEN 2025 WE MIGHT RUN INTO TROUBLE.

WELL, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT TYPE OF PRESENTATION HAD BEEN GIVEN IN A PUBLIC FORUM HERE.

WE NEED THAT LONGER-TERM THINKING AND PLANNING AND FORECASTING, SO THAT WE CAN PHASE THOSE LARGER STRATEGIC ITEMS. TO THE THREE-YEAR PLAN, I LIKE THE ENHANCED THE CURRENT PROCESS MORE, THE BLEND MAKES SENSE.

IN MANY WAYS WE'RE ALREADY DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO A THREE-YEAR PLAN.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS ON OUR CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT ARE CARRYOVERS WITH NEW ACTION ITEMS, SO OUR PLAN IN SOME WAYS ALREADY LOOKS LIKE THAT.

I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT A CONSULTANT, A, BECAUSE OF COST, BUT ALSO B, BECAUSE OF OWNERSHIP.

THIS IS OUR TOOL, WE SHOULD OWN IT, AND THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THAT.

I KNOW IT'S HARD.

I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH BRIEFINGS AS A NEW MEMBER AND WE HAD ALL OF OUR BRIEFINGS THAT KATE WAS GREAT IN SAYING, BRING IT UP TO THE STRATEGIC LEVEL, TO THE HIGHER LEVEL, AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS FUN.

YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS AND YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE DAY-TO-DAY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET LOST AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF COHESIVE VISION THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO RESIDENTS TO GIVE SOME CONFIDENCE THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.

I LIKE THE BUY-IN AND THE SAVINGS THAT COME FROM FINDING A WAY TO WORK A SYSTEM, TO DO IT ON OUR OWN TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE OR WITH VOLUNTEERS OR WITH THE COMMITTEE.

THERE'S SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE COMMITTEES THAT LOOK FOR INITIATIVES AND HOLD MEETINGS AND WE CAN BE CREATIVE AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S OUR TOOL AND OUR PLAN.

I DO LIKE THE ELECTRONIC VERSION THAT WE DID AT OUR HIGHEST LEVEL.

THAT WOULD BE AFTER THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN, BUT JUST THAT PRIORITIZING, THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL GIVEN THE NUMBER OF ITEMS. THE ADOPTING NEW ITEMS. AGAIN IT'S NOT JUST DOLLARS, IT'S ALSO STAFF TIME.

WE RUN LEAN IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND I TALKED TO OUR DIRECTORS ALL THE TIME PERHAPS TOO MUCH, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW BUSY THEY TRULY ARE OR THEIR STAFF.

I CAN GUESS MAYBE THEIR HAIR'S FRAZZLED [LAUGHTER] AND BLOODSHOT EYES OR SOMETHING DURING A CERTAIN PROCESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW UNLESS I'M TOLD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AND I WOULD FEEL GUILTY DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING THROWING THESE THINGS INTO AN ADOPTED STRATEGIC PLAN THEN TIE SO MANY HANDS THAT I DON'T KNOW ARE BEING TIED.

I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF [NOISE] THAT GOING FORWARD BECAUSE SUDDENLY WE WILL SEE THE STAFF REQUESTED BUDGET, WE NEED THIS MANY NEW EMPLOYEES.

WE JUST WANT TO PARTNER WITH STAFF, OR AT LEAST I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO TRY TO PARTNER WITH STAFF ON THIS LONGER-TERM VISION FOR FINANCIAL RESOURCES, FOR STAFF RESOURCES, FOR IDEAS AND WHERE WE SOURCE THEM.

THESE ARE THE PRINCIPLES WITH WHICH I'M LOOKING AT THIS HOLISTICALLY.

>> JUST TO FOLLOW ONTO ONE POINT YOU MADE IS ONE THING I HAD MENTIONED TO KATE WAS, FOR ME IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE GOING ON IN THE STAFF LEVEL BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT AND MAYBE WE WOULD WANT TO RAISE TO THE LEVEL OF OUR STRATEGIC INITIATIVE.

ALSO LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, IF WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WELL MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OFF AND NOT ADD FORE THINGS BECAUSE THE THINGS THAT ARE WORKING ARE REALLY GOOD AND WE WANT TO LET THOSE PLAY OUT.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS IN A VACUUM, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING.

>> I KNOW WHEN THEY ASKED ME WHERE I WAS ENCOURAGED TO COME UP WITH 3-5 INITIATIVES.

[NOISE] I THINK FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS WE DID.

BUT I GUESS MY POINT WAS THAT I DON'T WANT TO OVERWHELM STAFF BECAUSE THEY ARE BUSY, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN HERE AND ALL THAT.

I HELD BACK AND SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW IT SEEMED LIKE I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING A CONSENSUS ON SOME LARGER ISSUES AND AGREEING ON ONE THING AND NOT MAYBE AS LARGE AS RIVERWALK MAYBE, BUT THAT THING WHERE INSTEAD OF IT'S JUST INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS THROWING UP THESE FIVE INITIATIVES JUST TO REMAIN RELEVANT OR THESE, I HATE THE WORD, BUT PET PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I REALLY LIKE THAT VISION OF SOME COHESIVE THOUGHT AND VISION WITH CERTAIN LARGER PROJECTS, BUT ALSO THE INFORMATION WE GET LOCALLY FROM THE CITIZEN SURVEY AND JUST THE OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT.

I THINK GIVE US TAKE SOME MORE TIME, COME UP WITH THEIR OWN,

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SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE, BUT LET'S START A LITTLE BIT EARLIER AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US A LOT.

STARTING IN JANUARY IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY YEAR, OH, MY GOD, IT'S STRATEGIC INITIATIVE AND IT COMES LIKE THAT.

ONCE SOMETIMES YOU CALL, WELL, WHAT SHOULD WE DO NEXT? BUT I THINK MORE OF A GROUP EFFORT WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE.

>> YEAH. WE ALREADY HAVE SO MANY ITEMS THAT ARE CARRYOVER.

AS A NEW MEMBER, THIS WILL BE MY FIRST PROPER STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WHERE THE PANIC SETS IN LIKE, OH I HAVE TO FIND HOW MANY THINGS AND OH I WANT CREDIT FOR SOMETHING BECAUSE THEN I CAN POINT TO IT LATER COME NEXT ELECTION.

IT SHOULDN'T BE ABOUT THAT.

IT'S THE BIG PICTURE.

WE DO EVERYTHING AS A TEAM, AND SO IT'S JUST HOW CAN WE THINK BIGGER? THAT'S ALL I WANT REALLY.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE.

>> YEAH, AGREE.

>> I THINK THAT WE'LL CERTAINLY FIRST OF ALL, STARTED FROM THE QUESTION, THE THREE OPTIONS.

YOU'D NEVER DO OPTION 1, MAINTAIN THE CURRENT PROCESS.

YOU'RE ALWAYS BE ENHANCING IT, SO AND OUT OF THIS IS GOING TO COME ENHANCEMENTS.

AND THEN, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT TO SHIFT FOR A THREE-YEAR UPDATE, BUT THE PROCESS SHOULD INHERENTLY HAVE SOME THREE-YEAR TYPE OF CHANGE.

AGAIN, NOT TO BE CRITICAL, BUT YOU PLOT YOUR SUGGESTION ON THREE, YOU TAKE 2024.

YOU SAID IF WE DID A THREE-YEAR PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S BETWEEN ELECTIONS, WELL THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT SOMEBODY ELECTED IN 2025, DOESN'T GET TO INPUT TO THE LONG-TERM PLAN TO THEIR THIRD YEAR.

THIS IS WHERE I'M MORE SYMPATHETIC TO THAT MAYBE THAN ANYBODY ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M ALREADY IN THE PROCESS, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ADVOCATING NEW MEMBERS.

NO MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE UP HERE, A NEW MEMBER IS ENTITLED TO GET INTO THE PROCESS AND ADD.

I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD DEFINE BETTER WHAT THE PRACTICE IS.

THERE'S AN AWARENESS BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, I HEARD ABOUT INPUT TO THE STRATEGIC PROCESS.

CERTAINLY WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS, WE HAVE NEW TEAMS THAT COULD PROVIDE INPUTS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

IF WE HAD FOR EXAMPLE LIST OF WHERE DO WE GET OUR INPUTS TO THE STRATEGIC PROCESS, YOU'D ALWAYS WANT TO BE EXPANDING IT.

I WOULD GUESS THAT MY COLLEAGUES MAY NOT KNOW THAT IN THE CITIZEN'S SURVEY WE DO EVERY TWO YEARS, WE TYPICALLY HAVE LIMITED QUESTIONS.

HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T NORMALLY COME TO THE COUNCIL AS IT SHOULD.

I'D SUBMIT, IT HAPPENED ONE TIME THAT WHEN WE DO THE CITIZEN'S SURVEY, WE TALK ABOUT IT TO THE COUNCILS, WHAT SHOULD WE BE TARGETING FOR THE SURVEY QUESTION? BECAUSE WE DID THAT ONE TIME.

WE DIDN'T DO THAT LAST TIME, BUT I'M JUST USING THAT AS ONE EXAMPLE, IT JUST ONE SOURCE OF MANY.

BY LISTING THE DIFFERENT INPUTS, OUR COMP PLAN IS AN INPUT TO THAT? I THINK IT'D BE HEALTHY JUST TO DO THAT, MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL AWARE, MAKE SURE WE MAKE IT AN ALL-INCLUSIVE BECAUSE THAT'S THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING.

MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT, I'VE ALWAYS PUT HEAVY RELIANCE UPON THE CITIZEN'S SURVEY.

I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE LAST PROCESS THAT IT HAPPENED BEFORE I REALIZED.

THE POINTED QUESTION WASN'T NECESSARILY WHAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED AS THE LAST TIME AS IT HAD BEEN THE PRIOR TIME.

I THINK WHEN STAFF SAID ABOUT USING A CONSULTANT, CERTAINLY KATE IS QUALIFIED AS ANYBODY, BUT THE CONSULTANT THAT WE HAVE HAD, SHOULD BE A FACILITATOR AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR DELANEY BECAUSE IN TO THE DEGREE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TIME SPENT THAT IF YOU HADN'T SPENT IT, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE WE'VE DEBATED ALMOST AT NAUSEAM, STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, GOALS, AND WHAT IT MEANS.

BUT WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS EVERY WORD ON THAT DOCUMENT THAT WE JUST FLOAT OVER, MAYBE IT'S CHANGED, BUT TO THE DEGREE THAT SOME OF US HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT, WE KNOW WE GOT OUR INPUTS AND EVENTS, SO WE WERE DEFINING EFFECTIVELY WHAT IT IS WE WANTED AND THEN FROM THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO AT SOME CADENCE.

NOT EVERY YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO RELY UPON IT, BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVEN'T GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT IT.

SECONDLY, WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS, SO I'M JUST SHARING THAT AND I THINK THAT I'M PERCEIVING THAT'S WHAT MS. MORETTO WAS SUGGESTING.

BUT THAT CONSULTANT, IF THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOBS, YOU JUST BE FACILITATOR AND UNBURDENING STAFF.

WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE NOT MUCH CHANGES JUST EVERY YEAR,

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BUT EVERY SO MANY YEARS, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE NEW MEMBERS OR NEW POTENTIAL SOURCES OF INPUT.

>> ON THE CONTRACT FOR THE CITIZEN'S SURVEY, I THINK I REMEMBER HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU THAT I GUESS THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THEY COULD PROVIDE IF WE WANTED THEIR ASSISTANCE WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN.

I DO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU-

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ANALYSIS OF DATA THEY DON'T CREATE THEY WOULD DO I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY CERTAINLY CAN COLLECT ADDITIONAL DATA AND ANALYZE THAT.

>> BUT WE'VE TARGETED SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE CURIOUS ABOUT TO UNDERSTAND.

BUT WE DIDN'T DO THAT AS A COUNCIL LAST TIME, IT WAS DONE BY THE TOWN AND WHAT THE TIME BEFORE THAT, THE COUNCIL DECIDED, HEY, THIS IS THE PARTY WE WANT TO GET INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC ON.

>> ARE WE DOING THE SURVEY THIS YEAR? [OVERLAPPING]

>> WE ARE IN AN OFF-YEAR, SO IT WOULD BE NEXT YEAR.

>> WE DO IT, IS IT EVERY TWO YEARS?

>> TWO, YES.

>> OKAY.

>> WE HADN'T SEEN ONE, WE DID FOR A VERY SHORT TIME, DO IT EVERY YEAR AND WE JUST HADN'T SEEN THE DIFFERENCES TO WARRANT THE EXPENDITURE.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT IT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION FOR US TO RE-LOOK AT.

>> QUITE FRANKLY, I SAW WITH TIMELINES AND WHATEVER YOU DO IT EARLIER, WE'VE TYPICALLY DONE AT YEAR-END, YOU'D WANT TO DO IT EARLIER TO COINCIDE AS AN INPUT, PARTICULARLY IF WE WERE ASKING A SURVEY QUESTION.

I THINK ONE OF THINGS I JUST GOING TO SHARE A PERSPECTIVE, FIRST OF ALL, WE DID INCLUDE OFTEN AT SOME POINT, SOME YEARS AGO, STAFFS INPUTS AND THEN WE'D WANT TO CATEGORIZE THEM WITH A CONSULTANT, BECAUSE WE'D SAY, WELL, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS AND THEY WERE ASSIGNED A STAFF ITEM AS OPPOSED TO A STRATEGIC ITEM.

THAT DIDN'T MEAN IT WASN'T IMPORTANT.

I HAD THE PERCEPTION SOMETIMES STAFF DIDN'T, MAYBE WE DISAPPOINTED, IT WASN'T EMBRACED.

IT WAS IMPORTANT, BUT IT WAS CATEGORIZED AS A STAFF ITEM BECAUSE IT REALLY DIDN'T INVOLVE THE COUNCIL.

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GET INTO WHAT DIFFERENCES WERE, BUT WE WENT THROUGH THAT AND THE CONSULTANT WOULD LEAD US THROUGH THAT.

WE ASSIGNED THAT IN DIFFERENT CATEGORY AND IT WASN'T IN THE PLAN, BUT IT WAS WHAT I'M HEARING, WHAT STAFF IS WORKING ON.

WE HAD THAT COLLECTION, IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

>> FOR PERSPECTIVE ALSO IS THAT A GOOD IDEA CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE? I DON'T NECESSARILY COUNT ON MYSELF.

THE STAFF THAT IT COULD BE LABELED THE STAFF ITEM, BUT IT COULD BE A STRATEGIC ITEM THAT'S SOMEONE HAS.

>> NO, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

WELL ALL I'M JUST SUGGESTING IT MAY BE THE PERCEPTION OVER TIME IS WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT INPUT LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE HAD.

>> YEAH.

>> THAT'S WHY LET'S GO BACK TO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IT AS AN INPUT BECAUSE IT WAS THE CASE THEY WOULD COME UP AN ITEM THAT WOULD BE STRATEGIC.

>> BUT ONE OF MANY.

WE COULD ADVERTISE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

JANUARY IS STRATEGIC PLANNING, I'M SURE YOU HAVE A MILLION IDEAS.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THEM AND JUST GET MORE CONVERSATION GOING AND THIS COULD BE AMONG ALL OF ITS STAKEHOLDERS.

>> BUT AS WE'RE REFLECTING ON THE PROCESS, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE LOST SOME BECAUSE STAFF THEY KNOW.

STAFF WANTS THE PERCEPTION WRONGLY.

>> YOU DID LOSE ONE, IT WAS IN PREVIOUS PLANS.

>> YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

WE DIDN'T EVEN START OFF WITH THE PROCESS GETTING THAT INPUT. IF WE LIST.

JUST TO SHARE THIS AND I KNOW SOME MEMBERS KNOW THIS.

BUT THE STAFF, AND I PURCHASED FROM THE MANAGER, NOT THE CURRENT MANAGER.

PREVIOUS MANAGERS, STAFF NEVER WANTED TO AGREE THE STRATEGIC ACTION ITEM THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL THEY COULD CONTROL AND I GET THAT I'M A STAFF MEMBER, MY DAY JOB.

BUT THEN I TRIED TO RAISE IT TO WAIT A SECOND, I OWN THAT WITH YOU AND IF YOU LOOK IN A STRATEGIC PLAN AS A FOOTNOTE TO THAT RIGHT, SO WE REALLY HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, I HAD THIS DOWN AS ENHANCING THE PROCESS.

IT HAS TO BE MORE TOWN COUNCIL OWNERSHIP FOR IT TO BECOME MORE MEANINGFUL BECAUSE WE CAN INFLUENCE STUFF TO STAFF CAN'T, THEY CAN DO STUFF THAT WE CAN'T RATE.

IT'S A COMBINATION, BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE THE LESSONS LEARNED IS I COULDN'T GET STAFF WRITTEN UP FOR NUMBER OF YEARS BECAUSE THE MANAGER WOULD SAY, NO, THIS DEPARTMENT HEAD ISN'T COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THAT THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.

THAT'S HOW WE EVOLVED TO THOSE ITEMS I SAID, LOOK, AMONG THE TP I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TOM TOGETHER, BUT HE'S NOT ACCOUNTABLE BY HIMSELF AS THE TPA MEMBER AND REPRESENTING

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THIS COUNCIL IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ME TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, TO GET FUNDING TO WORK WITH, I JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE SO WE CAN STEP UP THE HISTORICAL, IF EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL, HAS THAT RIGHT.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE STAFF WON'T AGREE TO THE LANGUAGE IN FAIRNESS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SADDLED WITH THE EXPECTATION ON A STRATEGIC ITEM THEY FEEL THEY HAVE NO CHANCE OF DOING RIGHT.

>> THEY HAVE TO REPORT ON IT QUARTERLY, SO THAT CONTROL ON THAT.

>> BUT THERE HAS TO BE EVEN ON THAT THEN IF THE TRULY IS ASSURED ONE THEY CAN'T REPORT ON AN [INAUDIBLE].

IT HAS TO BE A SHARED ONE I THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT, THAT'S AN OBSTACLE, IF YOU WILL FOR BEST ALIGNMENT IN MOST OUTCOMES.

>> ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY IS NOT JUST WHAT'S HERE, BUT WHAT'S ABSENT.

I REALLY AM PLEASED LIKE THIS ISN'T JUST A CONCERNS WE HAVE WITH THE CURRENT PROCESS, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE WORKING REALLY WELL AND I DO LIKE THE QUARTERLY UPDATES.

I DO THINK THAT THEY'RE APPROPRIATE I DON'T THINK WE NEED MORE.

I HAVE SEEN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DROWN IN METRICS AND I REMEMBER WORKING IN HAITI, THERE WAS THIS FAMOUS SAYING AMONGST ALL THE MONITORING AND EVALUATION STAFF THERE IT WAS, DON'T LET THE SAUCE COST MORE THAN THE FISH.

WHICH MEANS, REMEMBER THE CORE PROGRAMS AND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU PUT IN CORE PROGRAMS VERSUS MEASURING, MONITORING, PLANNING, SO I AM GRATEFUL I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD BALANCE THERE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] GETTING ANOTHER ONE SHORTLY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WHATEVER THE PROCESS WE END UP WITH, IT ALSO HAS TO TIE IN VERY VISIBLY WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

BECAUSE IF ANYTHING IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH, WE CAN'T PASS THE TOLL GATE ON APPROVING AN ANNUAL BUDGET CHANGE WITHOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE FUNDED WHAT NEEDED TO GET FUNDED AND I THINK IN YEARS PAST, THAT HASN'T ALWAYS HAPPENED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD RAISED THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME TO UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BUDGET.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THE PIPELINE, HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING AND WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THIS ASK ON THAT.

FOR ME, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT IN THAT THEY'RE TIED CLOSER TOGETHER.

>> I DO RECOGNIZE BY THE WAY, THAT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THAT STAFF MAY THINK ONLY THING THAT IF IT'S A CIP SHEET IS A CONNECTION.

BUT SOME OF THE ITEMS STAFF MAY KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF INTO BUDGET, BUT WE DON'T KNOW AND THEN QUITE FRANKLY, IF WE DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT ISN'T IN THE BUDGET.

I ALMOST SUGGEST THAT THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING YOU EARLIER TODAY.

IT SEEMED LIKE ANYTHING IN STRATEGIC PLAN, WE ALL HAVE A CHECKLIST OF WHERE IS THE FUNDING TO DO THAT? BECAUSE HISTORICALLY, IF IT'S REALLY DONE AS PART OF REGULAR WORK, THERE'S NO FUNDING PLAN AND THEN IT REALLY MADE ME NO COMMITMENT.

>> IF I COULD, WHAT FORM COULD THAT TAKE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL?

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S CAN PROVIDE IT AS A MATRIX.

>> FIRST OF ALL.

>> THAT'S VERY SIMPLE.

>> I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNSEL SANDSTRONG SAID IS I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS MORE COMPLICATED.

I'M JUST SUGGESTED SOMEHOW SOME WAY WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.

I PREFER NOT TO BE BURDENED BY DEFINING SUCH AND SUCH.

I ASKED YOU TODAY, WHERE WAS THIS FUNDING PROVIDED BECAUSE I MISSED IT.

SHE SENT ME A SUMMARY SHEET BUT THEN THE SUMMARY DIDN'T INCLUDE ALL THE ITEMS. ALL I'M JUST SAYING AS AN OBSERVER, SOMEHOW, WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER THAT WE DON'T PASS THE TOLLGATE OF AN ANNUAL BUDGET WITHOUT HAVING ADDRESSED FUNDING.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT NOT JUST TO HAVE NOT WHEN THE FUNDING WAS PRIOR FUNDING IN 2023, 2024, BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY WHAT POT OF MONEY IS THAT COMING FROM AND THAT BIGGER PICTURE IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR A BIGGER ITEM.

>> YOU WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE?

>> YEAH. [OVERLAPPING] IN THE CIP.

>> IT'S JUST A CHECKLIST.

>> WE DO WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T FORGET ONE, IF A TOP PRIORITY, STRATEGIC PRIORITY, IT'D BE FUNDED SOMEWHERE.

>> MOST OF THE SMALLER INITIATIVES, THEY CAN START IMMEDIATELY, STUFF GETS ON IT, AND IT GOES INTO A BUDGET YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT PLOT IS COMING OUT OF WE CAN FIND THAT OUT.

BEFORE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT DON'T GET BUDGET, LIKE LONGER-TERM THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ATTAIN, WERE NOT THERE THEY WILL PUT LATER ON IN THE CIP OR WARRANT.

[02:00:01]

I RECALL SOME ITEMS LIKE THAT?

>> WELL, I'M NOT FAULT FINDING AND BRING THIS UP, TAKE THE WESTERN CARTER WE'VE HAD THAT THAT ONE FOR YEARS.

I PUSHED ON THAT ONE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS WHERE IS IT? THEN IT WAS FIRST SHOWED UP, I THINK IN 24 AND I COMMENT WAIT A SECOND.

WHY ARE WE WAITING? IT'S AN URGENT PRIORITY IF IT'S STRATEGIC, WOULD JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, WIND UP BEING [OVERLAPPING]

>> I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

>> [NOISE] BUT YOU ASKED ME FOR EXAMPLE THAT'S ONE.

>> I AGREE.

>> THAT'S JUST ONE AND IT WAS DONE BUT KATE, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE SUMMARY QUARTERLY SHEETS ARE PHENOMENAL.

TO ME IS WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE THAT, I CAN GET AN UPDATE IT'S A SMALL GAP HERE IS FUNDING.

JUST LET'S ALL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT MISSED, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING FUNDED AND THEREFORE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUNDED IF NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

THINK ABOUT HOW YOU COULD INTEGRATE IT INTO THE CURRENT PROCESSES WITHOUT CREATING MORE WORK.

>> CAN WE HAVE AN APPENDIX OR SOMETHING TO OUR ANNUAL? WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLANS CAN WE ADD AN APPENDIX OR SOMETHING WITH THE FUNDING SECTION TO THIS PLAN EACH TIME TO REGULARLY UPDATE OR MONITOR OR AT YEAR OVER YEAR OR?

>> NO. TO THAT POINT, PERFECT EXAMPLE, GLAD YOU ASKED IT THAT WAY.

I PARTLY OWN ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN GETTING FUNDED FROM THE COUNTY.

I'M TRYING TO GET THAT RIGHT NOW USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE, FUNDING SOURCES WHICH YOU BROUGHT UP, IT'S QUITE EASIER TO ADDRESS THE FUNDING SOURCES WHEN IT'S TOWN FUNDED.

BUT THE OTHER AGENCIES, THE FUNDING'S HAPPENED IN DIFFERENT CYCLES I'VE BEEN COLLABORATING FOR EXAMPLE THE COUNTY ENGINEER, HIS OFFICE TO CONFIRM UP BECAUSE ACTUALLY WHAT ROADS ARE IN THE BUDGET PLAN ACTUALLY IS OFF CYCLE WITH THE ACTUAL ANNUAL BUDGET.

BUT I'M USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE THAT'S WHY IT HAS TO BE AN ONGOING I RECOGNIZE THAT I GET TO WORK WITH TOM AND I HAVE TO DRIVE THAT THROUGH THE COUNTY.

>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT TOO, BECAUSE IF WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT A LOBBYIST IN THE FUTURE AND THOSE FUNDING TIMELINES IT'S JUST MAKES THE PICTURE THAT MUCH MORE COMPLEX AND THAT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE MANAGE IT AND IT MAKES SENSE.

>> [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT TO PLANNING IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AFTER SOME OF THOSE OTHER TYPES OF FINDINGS YET [INAUDIBLE] STRIVING TO GET IT.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CONVERSATION WILL LOOK LIKE.

BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A VISION, WE'RE NEVER GONG TO BE ABLE TO ASK FOR FUNDS, BE AT A GRANT, BE AT ANY OTHER ENTITY IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN AND VISION AND LONG-TERM VISION TO GET BUYING FOR AND IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER TO CRAFT IF WE ALL HAVE THESE TOOLS HERE AT HOME BEFORE WE GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO SECURE IT.

>> I WOULD JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THAT I WAS STEPPING UP WITH OWNERSHIP AND ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THE INPUTS TO BEING IN THE BUDGET WILL VARY BASED ON THE FUNDING SOURCE WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND ACCEPT THAT.

>> OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? WELL, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE INPUT AND WE WILL TAKE THIS BACK AND BE BACK BEFORE YOU.

PROBABLY IMPROVE AS WE GO PROCESS FOR THIS NEXT CYCLE IF THAT MAKES SENSE BASED ON WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE FASTER TO IMPLEMENT THAN OTHERS.

MAYBE THAT'S A WAY TO APPROACH SOME OF THESE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PROCESS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SWEEP THAT. I MOVE TO REPORTS. TOWN ATTORNEY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE NO REPORT.

>> TOWN MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK KATE FOR ALL OF HER WORK ON THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT COUNCILOR SUBSTANCE

[TOWN MANAGER]

WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WORKLOAD ON OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS.

YOU COULD JUST SEE JUST THROUGH THESE CONVERSATIONS, NOT TO MENTION ALL OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, IT IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WORKLOAD AND REALLY REMARKABLE ABOUT HOW MUCH WORK THEY DO GET DONE.

I THINK HAVING A VISION AND A STRATEGY AND EVERYBODY ROLLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION WILL BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL DOWN THE ROAD.

A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, KUDOS TO THE PARKS AND REC PEOPLE.

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I THINK EVERYBODY IN COUNCIL WAS HERE FOR THE TREE WRITING THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE INTERPRETER COMMUNITY PARK WAS REALLY A GREAT EVENT.

YOU TALKED ABOUT GOOD TO GREAT WITH GOOD ORGANIZATIONS TO ALL THE BIG THINGS WELL AND GREAT ORGANIZATIONS, ALL THE BIG THINGS AND ALL THE WORLD THINGS WELL.

AS YOU CAN TELL IT THAT EVENT THEY DID ALL THE BIG THINGS AND ALL THE LITTLE THINGS AS WELL.

I COULDN'T BE ANY MORE PROUD OF THEM.

THE TOWN LOOKS GREAT WITH ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE ON THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS.

I KNOW THIS WAS A PRIORITY FOR COUNCILOR MAY, AND HOPEFULLY WE'VE MET AND EXCEEDED YOUR EXPECTATIONS ON THAT.

I WANTED TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE CHIEF ENGLAND WHO'S HERE SOMEWHERE, HE WAS HERE.

WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL THE OFFICERS AND FOLKS THAT WERE HEADING OVER TO THE HURRICANE RELIEF.

THE CHIEF WAS HERE LOADING TRUCKS AND CARS AND CARRYING BOXES.

I WANTED TO GIVE KUDOS TO HIM AS WELL.

A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE TOWN OF JUPITER HAS BEEN SELECTED [NOISE] TREASURE COAST CHAPTER, THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONALS, AS A RECIPIENT OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL EXCELLENCE AWARD IN RECOGNITION OF ALL PHASES OF THE SELL FISH BAY MARINE RESTORATION PROJECT.

WE SAY THE TOWN OF JUPITER, BUT I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT'S AKA STEPHANIE [INAUDIBLE] IN ALL OF HER INITIATIVES OVER THERE AT SELL FISH BAY.

IT'S REALLY QUITE REMARKABLE AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THE RECOGNITION COME.

THE TOWN STAFF WILL BE ATTENDING THE AWARD RECEPTION AT LOGGERHEADS MARINE LIFE CENTER TOMORROW FROM 6:00 TO 9:00 PM.

REALLY QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THEM ON THAT.

ALSO ON A FOLLOW-UP FOR THE CAR CARRIERS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

THE CHIEF HAS DISPATCHED HIS COMMANDERS TO MEET WITH DIRECTORS FROM THE BEARS CLUB, TRUMP NATIONAL ADMIRALS COVE AND OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF THE TRANSPORTS AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF FOLLOWING LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND HELPING THEM FIND LOCATIONS WHERE THEY CAN OFFLOAD VEHICLES SAFELY AND CAUSE MINIMAL IMPACTS.

OF COURSE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET REALLY GOOD COMPLIANCE THERE.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE CHIEF TO HAVE TO GO TO A LITTLE INTENSE FELLOWSHIP FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT COMPLY.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT AND LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I GET [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I WANTED TO ALSO THANK EVERYONE FOR THE GREAT EVENT ON FRIDAY, AND ALSO TO THANK STEPHANIE

[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]

AND GRETCHEN AND THE WHOLE CREW FOR ALL THEY DID IN SELL FISH BAY.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR ME AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR RECOGNITION.

I ALSO WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A MEMO THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE TOWN MANAGER, AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY REGARDING MY REQUEST FOR IN-HOUSE COUNCIL TO TRANSITION TO A DIFFERENT MODEL FOR THE PROVISION OF LEGAL SERVICES.

ONE OF THAT CAME OUT, ONE OF THE MEMOS REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE CREATION OF A LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS NOT WHAT I HAD SUGGESTED.

WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS A SINGLE POSITION ALONG THE CORPORATE LEGAL MODEL WHERE YOU HAVE IN-HOUSE COUNCIL THAT MANAGES THE LEGAL AFFAIRS, HANDLES DAY-TO-DAY MATTERS MANAGES OUTSIDE COUNCIL, HIRE, MANAGES TOWN COUNCIL'S SPEND.

ALSO, WHEN YOU HAVE AN IN-HOUSE COUNCIL, YOU CAN EXPAND THE SCOPE OF SERVICES TO INCLUDE MANAGING THE REGULATORY AFFAIRS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY COVERING NOW.

THE REGULATORY SIDE INCLUDES LEGISLATIVE STUFF, MONITORING THINGS ON THE COUNTY, ET CETERA.

THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER WORLD THAT WE'RE NOT COVERING.

WHAT I HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS WE DO NOT REQUIRE TERMINATING THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT WE HAVE BECAUSE JONES FOSTER WOULD BE THERE AS A RESOURCE FOR ANY ISSUES THAT THE IN-HOUSE COUNCIL WOULD DEEM TO BE APPROPRIATE.

ALSO THE TOWN MANAGER HAD PROVIDED US INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE HAD IN-HOUSE COUNCIL.

IN PARTICULAR, THE TOWN OF [INAUDIBLE] HAS MANAGED TO PULL THIS OFF WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET FRAMEWORK THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I FOUND TO BE VERY ENCOURAGING.

BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE EVOLUTION OF JUPITER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT'S LEGAL SERVICES.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE TOWN MANAGER TO GET A MAJORITY TO AGREE TO PURSUE THIS.

I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE TOWN MANAGER ON IT TO CREATE THIS IN-HOUSE GENERAL COUNCIL POSITION AND TO MOVE FORWARD IN HOW WE HANDLE LEGAL MATTERS IN JUPITER.

[02:10:10]

>> JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE THOUGHTS ON THE TREE LIGHTING, FIRST-TIME EVENT LIKE THAT.

DID ANYBODY GET A HEAD COUNT ON THAT? HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE? [OVERLAPPING]

>> NO, BECAUSE I HAD ASKED FOR FEEDBACK.

>> I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

>> I THINK IT'S A LOT TO DIGEST.

I KNOW STEWART, I THINK HAS A MUCH SMALLER POPULATION THAN OURS FOR EXAMPLE. I DON'T KNOW.

I GOT THE MEMO.

WE SAW THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE AT THE DON'T, I'D LOVE TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING IT NOW THAT WE'RE STARTING TO FORM RELATIONSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

I THINK AGAIN, WITH A NEW SET OF EYES, WE ARE TALKING CONSTANTLY.

WE JUST HAD A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WHERE WE TALK ABOUT PERFORMANCE AND VALUE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHERE ITS PERFORMANCE AND VALUE.

I HEAR THE SAME HERE.

OUR TOWN MANAGER, THAT WAS QUITE THE ISSUE LAST YEAR, PERFORMANCE AND VALUE AND TRANSPARENCY.

I REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH OUR TOWN ATTORNEY.

AS A NEW MEMBER, I'M SORTING OUT.

IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT JOB THAN THE TOWN MANAGER.

I KNOW COUNCIL HAS TWO DIRECT EMPLOYEES, SO THE ROLES ARE SO DIFFERENT.

LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE, ITS SO DIFFERENT TOO AND VALUE IS SO DIFFERENT AS WELL.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T KNOW REGARDING OUR TOWN ATTORNEY IN THE OFFICE.

IF WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT'S OUT THERE OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER TALKED ABOUT THAT AS A COUNCIL.

I DON'T REMEMBER WATCHING YEARS OF COUNCIL VIDEOS THAT WE'VE EVER ADDRESSED THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE KNOW WHAT SERVES US OR WHAT'S OUT THERE.

IF THIS IS THE BEST OR IF THERE'S A BETTER FIT OR HOW THAT WORKS.

IN THE SPIRIT OF LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE AND VALUE ACROSS ALL THINGS THAT THIS TOWN DOES.

IT'S JUST ONE MORE ELEMENT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT INVOLVES.

I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY SO TO THE EXTENT THAT SOMETHING COMES UP OR YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING LOOKING INTO IT, MAYBE CHERYL YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON IT.

BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING HERE EXCEPT FOR DIRECT STAFF.

IT'S WORTH A CONVERSATION JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.

>> IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO HAVE IT BE LOOKED AT OFFICIALLY.

[OVERLAPPING].

>> DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS?

>> I THINK COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER BRINGS UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE COUNCIL HAS TWO EMPLOYEES, MYSELF AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY.

TO ME, ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT SHOULD REALLY INVOLVE COUNCIL AND SO IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO MOVE DOWN THAT ROAD, PERHAPS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COUNCIL, BUT THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND I WORKED VERY CLOSELY ON PROJECTS AND WE NEED TO KEEP WORKING ALONG THOSE LINES IF THERE'S AN INTEREST FOR THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES.

WHAT I WOULD ASK THAT TO BE A DIRECT LIAISON FROM THE COUNCIL FOR THIS. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE MAYOR.

>> BUT IT HAS TO BE A CONSENSUS FIRST, I'M NOT INTERESTED AT THIS POINT.

I'M OPEN TO THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN WORKING FURTHER ON THAT MATTER AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

>> I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND IT TO MY EXPERIENCE WITH OUR CURRENT TOWN ATTORNEY, THE OUTSIDE COUNCIL SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

HIS EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE FOR ME.

I STARTED HERE AND LOOK, THERE'S A LEARNING CURVE AND HE'S HELPED ME MEANDER THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT ISSUES AND HE'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE.

I AM JUST VERY LEERY OF YOU STARTING A LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

>> I WASN'T SUGGESTING STARTING A LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S BEEN THE MISCONCEPTION.

I'VE NEVER SAID THAT EVER.

>> I'M JUST SAYING I'VE SEEN REPORTS OF WHAT OTHER TOWNS HAVE AN ATTORNEY, PARALEGAL, A SMALL STAFF, SOME DON'T.

>> RIGHT.

>> I'M JUST A LARRY.

FROM WHAT I CAN SEE RIGHT NOW,

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I DON'T SEE THE COST OUTWEIGHS THE BENEFIT.

>> WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE THE MEMO WAS NOT ACCURATE IN PORTRAYING WHAT I HAD SUGGESTED.

THIS IS A CORPORATE LEGAL MODEL WHERE YOU HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT INTERNALLY, THAT'S AN EMPLOYEE.

THEN THAT PERSON GOES OUT AND PROVIDES A LEGAL SERVICES AND MANAGES THE SPEND.

THERE'S NO OVERSIGHT OF THE SPEND AT THE MOMENT.

YOU WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO JONES FOSTER, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM, THEY PROVIDE GENERAL SERVICES.

WE JUST WOULD NOT BE SELECTING FROM EVERY ITEM IN THE MENU OF THAT CONTRACT.

THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE, BUT YOU HAVE AN INTERNAL MANAGER NOW AND THAT IS WHY EVERY CORPORATE LEGAL DEPARTMENT DOES IT THIS WAY.

IT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT, IT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE.

WHEN YOU HAVE SPECIAL ISSUES THAT COME UP, YOU GET THE RIGHT EXPERTISE.

YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE LEGAL ADVICE IN EVERY WINNING. IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE.

YOU CANNOT HAVE AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL IN EVERY MEETING OF $275-350 AN HOUR.

IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE AN IN-HOUSE EXPERT WHO'S THE MANAGER OF ALL THE LEGAL AFFAIRS.

IT'S NOT CREATING A DEPARTMENT.

IT'S BASICALLY JUST TAKING THE MANAGEMENT FROM SOMEONE WHO'S CHARGING YOU ON AN HOURLY BASIS TO SOMEONE WHO WAS AN EMPLOYEE.

>> I HAVE A DAY JOB.

I WORK WITH QUITE A FEW CORPORATE ATTORNEYS, IN-HOUSE ATTORNEYS.

I'VE ALSO WORKED IN A TOWN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND I THINK THE MODEL FOR US HAS BEEN WORKING WELL.

I CAN RELY UPON TOM FOR THINGS I KNOW I CAN RELY UPON AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M NOT INTERESTED IN PURSUING A CHANGE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

>> WHAT'S MISSING FROM THIS DISCUSSION IS YOUR CHARTER.

YOUR CHARTER PROVIDES FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF A TOWN ATTORNEY.

THE CHARTER PROVIDES THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE TOWN'S LEGAL AFFAIRS.

EVEN IF YOU HAD THIS CORPORATE MODEL, AND OF COURSE, MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS ARE DIFFERENT FROM PRIVATE CORPORATIONS, BUT THE IN-HOUSE COUNSEL WOULD HAVE TO REPORT AND BE DIRECTED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY UNDER YOUR CHARTER.

>> NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WROTE THAT DOWN WITH MY TOWN CHARTER.

>> I GUESS WE DIFFER ON THAT.

>> WE DO, BECAUSE I WROTE THAT ONE NOTE.

>> I ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT MY CONTRACT SAYS.

IF COUNSEL IS NOT SATISFIED WITH THE LEGAL SERVICES THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING FROM ME AND MY FIRM, THEN THERE IS A PROCESS THAT YOU CAN GO THROUGH TO CHANGE ATTORNEYS.

>> BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING BECAUSE THE CONTRACT SAYS THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SERVICES AND WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT THE DAY-TO-DAY SERVICES WOULD BE PROVIDED IN-HOUSE.

BUT STILL, THE GENERAL ADVICE, THE HISTORY, ANY LITIGATION THAT IN-HOUSE COUNSEL DECIDES IS A GOOD FIT FOR JONES FOSTER WILL GO THERE.

BUT THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE TERMINATION.

THE CLIENT ALWAYS HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE SCOPE OF SERVICES IN LIBERALS' PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

IT IS, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AND THE CLIENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE.

I THINK AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE ON TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT BECOMES EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

WE'RE MISSING A HUGE CHUNK OF LEGAL SERVICES RIGHT NOW.

IT'S JUST WHEN SOMEBODY THINKS OF A QUESTION TO ASK, YOU GET AN ANSWER.

BUT THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF ISSUES THAT DON'T GET COVERED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO THINK OF THE QUESTION.

WHEN YOU HAVE AN IN-HOUSE COUNSEL, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON IN COSTS AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT ADVICE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I THINK THAT'S A MEASURE THAT COULD ADDRESS WHETHER I'M NOT ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF STAFF IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WAY AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL FUNCTIONS AND THE WAY IN-HOUSE COUNSEL FUNCTIONS, WHICH I KNOW HAVING RUN SEVERAL IN-HOUSE LEGAL DEPARTMENTS, AND ALSO HAVING TO ADD TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL IN THE UNITED STATES AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

I AM AWARE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE IN TERMS OF THE MODEL.

>> I'M SENSING TENSION, BUT I THINK THE QUESTION OF A STRUCTURE, WHAT I HEAR YOU PROPOSING, COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER, IS A STRUCTURE OF SOME SORT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT STRUCTURE WOULD BE.

I THINK YOU'RE SAYING THAT JONES FOSTER SERVES US WELL.

WE JUST WOULD WANT TO MOVE THEM TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THE STRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE LIKE AN IN-HOUSE REPRESENTATIVE.

>> WELL, THEY WOULD REMAIN AS OUTSIDE COUNSEL,

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BUT YOU WOULD HAVE AN INTERNAL MANAGER THAT GOES OVER THE ISSUES AND DECIDES WHICH COUNCIL HANDLES IT.

>> I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY COMPLEX.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SIGNING ON TO ANYTHING ANY TIME SOON, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH EXPLORING BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS WORTH JUST KNOWING WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT STRUCTURE WORKS BEST IN TERMS OF VALUE AND PERFORMANCE.

YOU'RE ALSO HIGHLIGHTING THAT THERE ARE LEGAL SERVICES, IF WE'RE NOT RECEIVING THEM, THEN THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT I WASN'T AWARE OF ALL THE LEGAL SERVICES THAT YOU HAD LISTED, THAT WASN'T ON MY RADAR.

AS A PROCESS, MAYBE IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA JUST TO BE THAT COUNCIL LIAISON IF THERE IS CONSENSUS TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE TOWN MANAGER TO FLESH THAT OUT, I CERTAINLY WOULD TAKE MORE EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

BUT BASED ON WHAT I SAW IN THE MEMOS, THERE IS A LOT OF VALUE IN HAVING THE STRUCTURE.

I THINK FROM WHAT I SAW, IT LOOKED MORE EXPENSIVE TO HAVE IN-HOUSE.

WHAT'S THE NUANCE OF THAT? IT WARRANTS MORE DISCUSSION, BUT A VOTE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE NEXT MEETING.

WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME WITH IT AND UNDERSTAND IT.

BUT I DO THINK ALL OF US UP HERE FROM TIME TO TIME, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT SERVES US BEST AS WE CONTINUE TO CHANGE, IT'S WORTH REEVALUATION PERIODICALLY, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT'S ALL.

>> I THINK I'M GOING TO CALL THAT ITEM, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION GENERALLY ON THE REPORTS.

WE NEED TO LIMIT. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A CONSENSUS TO PROCEED ON THAT ITEM.

>> NOW I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU HAVEN'T YET, THE BACKGROUND THAT YOU HAVE.

I'M ALWAYS HOPING TO LEARNING MORE AND SEEING WHAT THAT COMPLETELY ENTAILS BECAUSE THE COUNSELORS I KNOW IT'S COMPLEX FOR US BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT BACKGROUND, SO I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO SEE WHAT THAT SCOPE LOOKS LIKE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU HAVE?

>> NO. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILOR DELANEY.

>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR YOU ASKED FOR COLUMN.

>> I'M SORRY, I'M LOSING MY VOICE.

>> THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND YOU ANYWAY, SO IT WAS GOOD.

THANKS TO CHRISTIAN GEORGE AND YOUR STAFF FOR GREAT TREE LIGHTING AND THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN 1,500 MAYBE 2,000, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE IT WAS EASY, IT WAS GREAT.

ANYWAY, AND ALSO THANKS TO STEPHANIE THORBURN WITH THE SOFT HB PROJECT AND ALL THAT.

I THINK YOU'RE DOING SHORELINES, OYSTER BEDS, SEAGRASSES, BUT WHO WERE ON BOARD WITH THAT IT'S JUST FANTASTIC NEWS AND I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO SAY THAT WE'VE GOT OUR CONNECT WITH COUNSEL NEXT WEEK IT'S IN THE EVENING, SO BRING YOUR KIDS IF YOU WANT.

BRING ANYONE FEEL FREE TO JUST COME AND SAY HI TO US.

THERE WAS AN INTIMIDATING PICTURE ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH ALL OF US IN SUITS, I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE DRESSED QUITE THAT WAY.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME OUT, I DID LOVE THE FIRST TREE LIGHTING AND I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT HERE BECAUSE THIS WAS A RATHER TENSE CONVERSATION AND I JUST WANT TO SAY OUR TOWN ATTORNEY HAS BEEN WITH THIS TOWN FOR DECADES AND HE HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE RESOURCE TO THE TOWN, HE CONTINUES TO BE, HE KNOWS MORE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BASEBALL, THE HISTORY THAT IS INVOLVED WITH THAT AND I REMEMBER COMING ON, THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE TO THAT.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO NOT BE SAID AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS, BUT IN THE RIGHT SPIRIT AND FOR THE RIGHT REASONS AND THAT'S JUST BIG PICTURE.

GOOD BUSINESS IS ALWAYS LOOKING AT VALUE AND PERFORMANCE AND LOOKING AT WHAT'S OUT THERE PERIODICALLY FOR ALL PROJECTS, ALL CONTRACTS, OR ANYTHING.

WE'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WORKS, I MEAN, FIRM FOR OUR TOWN MANAGER THAT WAS AN EXPERIENCE I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THAT TRANSPARENCY AND THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST-FIT ALWAYS THAT'S IT.

>> COUNSELOR MAY.

>> JUST TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE SAID THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH STAFF, CHRIS AND GEORGE AND ALL OF YOUR STAFF FOR PUTTING ON THE THERE IS NO PLACE LIKE JUPITER EVENT AND THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY AND BRINGING OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITY TO LIFE.

I KNOW THAT WAS BASED OFF OF AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO PEOPLE BY ASHER SAYING, WHERE'S WORSHIPPERS, HOLIDAY SPIRIT, WE DON'T SEE ANY CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS ANYMORE SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO BRING THE LIGHT AND I THINK YOU GUYS DEFINITELY DID THAT, NO PUN INTENDED.

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>> QUICK ITEMS, NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, FIRST OF ALL, THE DATA, EVERYBODY ON THE TREE LIGHTING PHENOMENAL.

I THINK EVERYBODY THAT WAS THERE WAS JUST JOINED TO HAVE THAT EVENT STAFF DID A WONDERFUL JOB.

THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS ARE NOT COMPLETE AND I'M JUST GOING TO SHARE THIS AS AN UPDATE I'VE BEEN GOING APPROACHING PORT ST. LUCY FOR YEARS MY PARENTS LIVE UP THERE AND MY SISTER, THEY ALWAYS GET OFF IN DECEMBER AND HOW DOES PORT ST. LUCY HAVE ALL THESE DECORATIONS ON THE LIGHT POLES AND WHATEVER AND THEY DO.

WHEN WE HAD OUR PLAN THAT INCLUDED BANNERS, BUT INDIAN TOWN ROAD ALTERNATE A1A, I WAS LIKE, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THOSE.

THEY'RE NOT UP YET AND I DID FIND OUT THAT THE HOLDUP HAS BEEN GETTING THAT APPROVAL.

I WAS THINKING I ACTUALLY, [LAUGHTER] DIRECTLY TO [OVERLAPPING] YOU TODAY I SAID, LET ME SEE HOW CAN I BE MISSING THEM? BECAUSE BEFORE I GET OFF AND GET ON BOULEVARD AND ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY THAT I LEARNED FROM CHRISTIAN JUST COINCIDENTALLY WALKING IN THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON AN F THAT APPROVAL SO THAT ONCE WE CAN GET IT, I GUESS IN FUTURE YEARS.

>> THE NEXT YEAR?

>> WHAT'S THAT?

>> NEXT YEAR THEN?

>> THAT COULD BE [OVERLAPPING].

>> IT'S GOING TO BE UP SUPPOSEDLY.

>> YES.

>> BUT IT'S NOT YET BECAUSE WHAT WAS NICE ABOUT THE PLAN WAS THAT IT WAS, THROUGHOUT THE TOWN IN DIFFERENT WAYS I JUST REALLY WANTED TO SHARE MORE OF THAT INFORMATION LIKE THERE'S MORE COMING SO I'M UNDERSTANDING.

THEN FIND YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WE HAD THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND WE'VE HAD SUCH A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP WITH FIND.

I JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, JUST REALLY EMPHASIZING THAT HERE, AND IT WAS JUST ONE OF MANY ITEMS WERE THERE EXTENDING THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN WONDERFUL IN THE WAY OF GRANTS AND WHATEVER SO WEAK THAT IT'S A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION AND WE BENEFIT FROM THEM BEING HERE.

EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE PASS THAT NODE ONTO THEM AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL.

THEN LASTLY, I HAD RECENT OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WERE QUESTIONING SOME ISSUES AND I REACHED OUT TO THROUGH THE SYSTEM TOWN MANAGER.

BY THE WAY, THAT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO COMMUNICATE STATUS TO ME THANK YOU.

BUT JUST A PERCEPTION I WANTED TO SHARE WAS SO SOMEBODY REACHED OUT TO ME WELL, SEVERAL PEOPLE AND I JUST PASS IT ON TO STAFF BUT IN THIS CASE, IT WAS ON A CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE AND THERE WERE SOME DEFINITE STRONG PERCEPTIONS THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAD AND I JUST TURN IT OVER TO MS. MORETTO, WHO WAS THEN HEADS OF STAFF AND WHATEVER.

BUT INDICATOR SOMETIMES DRIVE THE WRONG BEHAVIOR I'M JUST SHARING SOME OBSERVATIONS IN MY PART, SO THERE'S JUPITER CONNECT IS 97 PERCENT CLOSED ON TIME AND SO IT DOES DRIVE THE BEHAVIOR OF, LET'S GET THESE THINGS CLOSED AND DONE.

WELL, IN THE CASE OF JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL, WHEN I COME TO FIND OUT FROM ESPERANTO, WAS THAT BECAUSE THIS MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SAW THAT HIS REQUEST WAS CLOSED OUT AND HE WAS PAYLOAD ABOUT IT BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T THINK THE ISSUE WAS RESOLVED AND I'M JUST SHARING THIS AS AN OBSERVATION IT'S NOT ANY FAULT FINDING OR WHATEVER.

WHAT TURNS OUT COME TO FIND OUT HE WAS CONSOLIDATING THERE WAS MULTIPLE REQUESTS ON SO I DO THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAD CREATED THIS JUP CONNECT AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT JUST SENT US ONE INCIDENT ON THIS INDIVIDUAL, SENT ME TO WELL-WRITTEN THOROUGH EMAILS THAT IF WE REALLY MIND THE MISUNDERSTANDINGS THAT HAPPENED, THAT THEY WERE MISUNDERSTANDINGS, WE SHOULD CHANGE THE PROGRAM SO THAT IT COULDN'T HAPPEN.

AGAIN, WE'RE AN INDIVIDUAL SEES SOMETHING THAT WAS CLOSED OUT AND PERCEIVE BECAUSE OF THAT, THE ISSUE WAS DONE ON A CODE COMPLIANCE ONE BECAUSE THE TOP BAR IS ALWAYS GENERALLY CALLED COMPLIANCE.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SUGGEST, FIRST OF ALL, THE COUNSEL AWARE BECAUSE WHETHER YOU I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU DID OR DIDN'T GET COMMENTS FROM THIS PERSON, BUT DOESN'T PER SEE MATTER I JUST WANTED TO SHARE I JUST WANT TO GET THESE MY FIRST THOUGHT IS I ASK STAFF TO ANSWER IT AND MAY STAY OUT OF IT AND I'M STAYING OUT OF IT.

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OTHER THAN IT WAS CLEAR THAT I THINK THAT THE PROCESS MAY BE DRIVING SOME OF THE MISUNDERSTANDINGS, SO PLEASE LOOK AT THAT.

LOOK, WE DID A WONDERFUL PROGRAM, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, RIGHT? SO LET'S PLEASE LOOK AT THAT TO GET UPSTREAM AND AVOID BUT ANYWAY, THAT WAS IT.

WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW 9:25 AND WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.