Nov 01, 2022 Town Council Special Meeting

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GOOD EVENING.

[Call to Order]

AND I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING OF TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST.

WE'RE GOING TO DEFER INVOCATION, A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND PLEDGE TO WHEN WE RECONVENE.

EVERYBODY'S HERE.

I TURN IT OVER.

LET THE RECORD SHOW EVERYBODY'S HERE.

WE'LL DO THE ROLL CALL WHEN WE RECONVENE.

AND LET ME TURN IT OVER TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY.

WELL, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL SO WE KNOW WHO'S AT THE TWO MEETINGS.

OKAY. YOU GOT TWO MEETINGS THAT YOU'RE CALLING TO ORDER.

MAYOR KURETSKI. HERE.

VICE MAYOR DELANEY.

HERE. COUNSELOR MAY.

HERE. COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER.

HERE. COUNSELOR SUNDSTROM.

HERE. TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW.

HERE. TOWN ATTORNEY BAIRD.

HERE. SO NOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, MAYOR, IS RECESS THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL WE COMPLETE YOUR PRIVATE ATTORNEY CLIENT SESSION.

OKAY. THAT'S YOUR REPORT? YEP. OKAY.

FOR NOW. WE'LL RECESS THE MEETING AND RECONVENE AROUND APPROXIMATELY 7:00.

[1. Recess for Attorney Client Session to discuss the pending litigation in the case styled,]

[RECONVENE COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING]

WITH THAT, WE'VE ALREADY HAD ROLL CALL.

WE'RE GOING TO DO, I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TODAY.

BEFORE WE START THE INVOCATION MOMENT OF SILENCE AND PLEDGE, I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE LAST MEETING BEFORE VETERANS DAY, AND I WANT TO ASK THAT WE KIND OF DO A SPECIAL KICKOFF IN LIGHT OF VETERANS DAY, SINCE I KNOW WE'LL HAVE AN EVENT FOR THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE ON BEHALF OF THE FACT THAT SHE HAS A BROTHER WHO'S SERVING OUR COUNTRY. AND LET'S THINK ABOUT TODAY.

AND WE SHOULD ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE PLEDGE IS 31 WORDS, 31 WORDS, AND THEY AFFIRM THE VALUES AND FREEDOM THAT THE AMERICAN FLAG REPRESENTS. SO I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN MALISE, EXCUSE ME, COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM, AS WE REMEMBER, AND SHE LEADS US IN THE PLEDGE AS WE REMEMBER THOSE COUNTRIES WHO DO NOT HAVE THE PRIVILEGES OF SUCH FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE WHILE NEVER FORGETTING THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY AND STILL DO SO. SO AGAIN, I JUST THOUGHT WE SHOULD DO THAT EVERY MEETING.

BUT IN LIGHT OF IT'S VETERANS DAY, SO IF AND DURING A MOMENT OF SILENCE, IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED AND CONTINUE TO SERVE.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR TOWN CLERK FOR THE INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN THE PLEDGE.

[INVOCATION] DEAR GOD, GRANT US THE COURAGE TO STAND FOR WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE AND ANIMALS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AMEN. LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

NOW FOR THE PLEDGE.

OF ALLEGIANCE] THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE DO NEED TO RECONVENE THE C.R.A.

MEETING AND ADJOURN IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MOVING BACK TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.

[2. Partnership between University of Florida and Scripps – Mr. James Lapple, CFO of UF]

AND I WANT TO WELCOME MR. JAMES LAPPLE, CFO OF UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, SCRIPPS BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH, WHO WILL BE GIVING US A PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS JIM LAPPLE.

I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AT UF SCRIPPS BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH.

I JOINED UF SCRIPPS IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR FROM THE ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY IN NEW YORK CITY, WHICH IS ALSO A PRIVATE RESEARCH INSTITUTION.

AS YOU MAY BE AWARE OF, UF SCRIPPS IS NOW PART OF UF HEALTH, WHICH IS THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA'S ACADEMIC HEALTH CENTER.

THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IS ONE OF THE NATION'S TOP FIVE PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES WITH MORE THAN $1,000,000,000 IN ANNUAL RESEARCH EXPENDITURES.

THE MERGER WAS COMPLETED IN APRIL, AND WE'RE NOW PROUD TO BE PART OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.

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RECENT NEWS HEADLINES HIGHLIGHT A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES.

I'M SORRY.

YOU NEED SOME HELP GETTING THE PRESENTATION GOING.

I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

ON AND DEMONSTRATE THE ONGOING COMMITMENT TO THE JUPITER AREA.

TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY COMMENT ON OUR INSTITUTE AND GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE INTO OUR FUTURE PLANS.

OCTOBER 12TH WAS A HISTORIC DATE FOR US SCRIPPS.

DOCTOR HERBERT WERTHEIM IS AN INVENTOR AND UF ALUMNUS, CAME TO JUPITER TO SIGN A GIFT AGREEMENT THAT DEDICATES $100 MILLION TO OUR INSTITUTE.

THIS GIFT WILL SUPPORT CURRENT RESEARCH PROGRAMS AND PROMOTE EDUCATION AND TRAINING FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF SCIENTISTS.

UF IS ALSO COMMITTED TO RAISING AN ADDITIONAL $2 BILLION FOR THE GROWTH OF SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY, INNOVATION AND CLINICAL RESEARCH RIGHT HERE IN JUPITER.

OUR SCIENTISTS WORK ON THE INTERFACE OF CHEMISTRY AND BIOLOGY.

THEY RESEARCH THE MOLECULAR BASIS OF HEALTH AND DISEASE TO DISCOVER NEW WAYS TO BETTER ADDRESS UNMET MEDICAL NEEDS.

PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IS ALSO CENTRAL TO OUR MISSION.

WE FEATURE A TOP TEN RANKED GRADUATE PROGRAM, POSTDOCTORAL TRAINING PROGRAM, UNDERGRADUATE TRAINING AND HIGH SCHOOL INTERNSHIPS.

PART OF WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE IN FLORIDA IS OUR DRUG DISCOVERY EXPERTISE.

WE POSSESS SOPHISTICATED EQUIPMENT AND EXPERTISE TYPICALLY FOUND WITHIN PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, SO ITS CAPACITY ENABLES OUR SCIENTISTS TO DEVELOP POTENTIAL TREATMENTS OR PREVENTATIVE THERAPIES.

TRANSLATING LAB DISCOVERY INTO CLINICAL ADVANCES REQUIRE A CLINICAL PARTNER.

WE HAVE CLINICAL SUPPORT FROM UF HEALTH IN GAINESVILLE, AND WE'VE ESTABLISHED A LOCAL ALLIANCE WITH JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE READ ABOUT.

UF HEALTH ALSO ANTICIPATES ON BUILDING A CLINICAL RESEARCH FACILITY AND A BIOTECH INCUBATOR ON THE PROPERTY ACROSS FROM DONALD ROSS ROAD, WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE BRIGER TRACT. DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY FOR THIS FACILITY.

THIS IS SORT OF A SNAPSHOT IN TERMS OF OUR INSTITUTE, AND WE'RE EFFECTIVELY ORGANIZED IN A DECENTRALIZED MANNER.

EACH LAB IS LIKE A PLANET, IF YOU THINK OF IT THAT WAY, HEADED BY ITS OWN PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR.

THE PI SEEKS GRANT FUNDING LARGELY FROM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME PRIVATE FUNDING AS WELL, AND POPULATES THE STAFF WITH STAFF SCIENTISTS, POSTDOCTORAL RESEARCHERS AND GRADUATE STUDENTS.

OUR PIS ARE FACULTY MEMBERS OF BOTH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND ALSO THE SCRIPPS RESEARCH INSTITUTE IN LA JOLLA, CALIFORNIA.

WE HAVE ABOUT 40 PIS, INCLUDING NEUROSCIENTISTS, CHEMISTS, IMMUNOLOGY, IMMUNOLOGISTS AND CANCER BIOLOGISTS.

THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF EXPERTISE, AND WE ANTICIPATE ON GROWING TO A STEADY STATE OF 60 TO 65 PIS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

SO CLEARLY WE'RE IN A GROWTH TRAJECTORY.

OUR TOTAL CENSUS ON THE JUPITER CAMPUS IS CURRENTLY ABOUT BETWEEN 400 AND 425 INDIVIDUALS CONSISTING OF FACULTY, STAFF AND ADMINISTRATORS.

OBVIOUSLY, WHAT WE DO FOCUSES ON PATIENTS AND PATIENT NEEDS ARE ALWAYS AT THE CENTER OF OUR JOBS.

WE LIVE IN A TIME OF RAPID BIOMEDICAL INNOVATION, BUT THE LIST OF UNMET MEDICAL NEEDS IS LONG.

WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH PROGRAMS IN MANY OF THESE AREAS, INCLUDING DEGENERATIVE DISEASES, VARIOUS CANCERS, ALZHEIMER'S AND HIV.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE SCIENTISTS THAT WE CURRENTLY WORK WITH, AND THEY'RE LEADERS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS.

THEY DEVELOP NEW METHODS AND NEW TECHNOLOGIES TO GAIN IMPORTANT NEW INSIGHTS ABOUT HEALTH AND DISEASE.

THE FIRST PICTURE IS DR.

PATRICK GRIFFIN, IS OUR SCIENTIFIC DIRECTOR, STUDIES NUCLEAR RECEPTORS HELPING US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND DIABETES, OSTEOPOROSIS, ARTHRITIS AND HORMONE SENSITIVE CANCERS. THE SECOND PICTURE IS SUSANA VALENTE.

SHE CHAIRS OUR IMMUNOLOGY AND MICROBIOLOGY DEPARTMENT.

SHE HAS MADE INCREDIBLE ADVANCES TOWARDS FUNCTIONALLY CURING HIV BY LOCKING IT INSIDE CELLS AND BLOCKING IT FROM RECEPTORS.

OUR SCIENTISTS HAVE IMPRESSIVE TRACK RECORDS FOR INVENTION, WITH MORE THAN 170 CLUSTERS OF PATENTS, WHICH IS MEANINGFUL GIVEN OUR BRIEF 17 YEARS OF OPERATION. SHARING OUR KNOWLEDGE AND TRAINING WITH THE NEXT GENERATION OF SCIENTISTS IS CENTRAL TO OUR MISSION.

GRADUATE STUDENTS AT UF SCRIPPS EARN THEIR PH.D.

DEGREES FROM THE SKAGGS GRADUATE SCHOOL OF CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES AT SCRIPPS RESEARCH IN LA JOLLA, CALIFORNIA.

WHILE HAVING ACCESS TO OUTSTANDING CLINICAL RESEARCH AND ACADEMIC EXPERTISE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, WE HAVE ABOUT 85 DOCTORAL STUDENTS ON CAMPUS AT THE JUPITER FACILITY. WE ALSO HAVE INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TO BOTH UNDERGRADUATE AND LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

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SINCE OUR FOUNDING, MORE THAN 300 UNDERGRADUATES FROM THE FAU HONORS COLLEGE HAVE INTERNED WITH US AND AROUND 130 LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL PICTURES OF OUR TRAINEES, CURRENTLY AT WORK IN OUR LABS.

THE TOWN OF JUPITER'S INVESTMENT IN AND SUPPORT OF THE SCIENCE AT UF SCRIPPS HAS CREATED SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL.

A STUDY PERFORMED IN 2021 FOUND THAT THE PUBLIC'S INVESTMENT IN SCRIPPS, FLORIDA, HAD PRODUCED A RETURN OF MORE THAN 6 TO 1.

IT ELEVATED THE VALUE OF REAL ESTATE SUPPORTED LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND LED TO EXCITING NEW BIOMEDICAL SPINOFF BUSINESSES LIKE EXPANSION AND MYOSIN THERAPEUTICS, AND ATTRACTED OTHER ACADEMIC INSTITUTES LIKE MAX PLANCK.

THE IMPACT AND THE ALLIES AND STUDENTS IN SCIENCE AND PATIENT GOES BEYOND MEASURE.

AS WE ENTER INTO OUR NEXT PHASE OF HISTORY AS PART OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, I AM CONFIDENT THAT THIS IMPACT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEW CHAPTER IN OUR FUTURE, AND WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AND THE TOWN OF JUPITER FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? JUST A COMMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THIS.

IT TRULY IS EXCITING.

IT IS EXCITING. I HAVE TO SAY THAT.

AND SOMEONE WITH HUNTINGTON'S IN THEIR FAMILY ESPECIALLY EXCITING THAT YOU'VE CHOSEN TO FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS.

GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LIKEWISE. I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS YOURSELF DON'T THINK YOU'D BE WELCOME HERE.

YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE BECAUSE WE LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SURE. SO WE WOULDN'T YOU KNOW, VERY LIMITED INFORMATION OTHERWISE.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING BY AND SHARING THIS WITH US.

MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ECHO THOSE COMMENTS.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS BETWEEN THE PARTNERSHIPS.

THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

THIS IS A TIME FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS AND IT'S LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES.

ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK IS ASKED TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PRIOR TO ADDRESSING COUNCIL.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES. ONE. LINDA OTTO.

THAT WAS POLICY FROM THOMAS THE OTHER DAY, AND IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG.

YOU SHOULD ASK FOR YOUR MONEY BACK.

THEY'RE STILL SPEEDING ON MY STREET.

THEY'RE NOT GOING. THE SPEED LIMIT ON MY STREET IS 25 MILES AN HOUR, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING 25.

THEY'RE GOING 35, 45 AND 55 MILES AN HOUR.

I WANT EACH ONE OF YOU, IF YOU HAVE TIME TO COME OUT TO SEE WHERE I LIVE.

I LIVE AT 201 WEST RIVERSIDE DRIVE, JUPITER, FLORIDA, 33469.

AND I SEE THEM SPEEDING ALL THE TIME ON THE STREET.

I ALMOST GOT HIT BY A CAR THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WAS WALKING MY DOG.

NOW THE SIGNS ARE BY TODD AND I DON'T WANT THE SIGNS ANYMORE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TALKING TO WAYNE POSNER.

HE SAID, WHAT I WANT IS A POLICEMAN IN MY DRIVEWAY ONCE A WEEK TO GIVE OUT TICKETS, AND THAT'LL SLOW THE PEOPLE DOWN FROM GIVING, YOU KNOW, SO NOBODY WILL BE HURT.

SO IF YOU COULD DO THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

NOW, I ALSO HAVE A NEIGHBOR, MR. ANDERSON, WHO HAS A HUGE HOUSE IN THE BACK.

HE WOULDN'T MIND A POLICE CAR IN HIS DRIVEWAY EITHER, BUT I NEED YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SPEEDING ON THE STREET.

I REALLY DO. AND I THANK YOU AGAIN.

THAT WAS IT.

THAT WAS IT? OKAY.

MOVING ON TO THE MINUTES, WE HAVE BEFORE US, SOME MINUTES AND REVISIONS TO THE OCTOBER 20TH MEETING AND COUNCIL I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE POSTPONE.

[3. October 20, 2022 Town Council Special Meeting Minutes.]

MAY WE CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING? CAN WE MAKE, SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION.

MOTION TO CONTINUE THE MINUTES.

SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY. NOW QUICK ITEM CONSENT AGENDA.

I SUSPECT NOBODY WANTS TO PULL THIS ITEM.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ON A CONSENT AGENDA.

MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 4, APPROVING USE OF STATE FORFEITURE FUNDS FOR SHOP OF THE CURE.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL NN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW WE MOVE ON TO ROUND TABLE ON FIRE AND RESCUE DISCUSSION AND I TURN IT OVER

[5. Fire and EMS discussion.]

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I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FIRE CHIEF AND HIS STAFF THAT ARE HERE TODAY FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE FIRE CHIEF ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS REGARDING THIS ISSUE, AND HE'S BEEN VERY CORDIAL AND VERY HELPFUL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO, CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME WITH US.

WE TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

AND WITHOUT INTRODUCING THE ENTIRE STAFF, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT HIS PREDECESSOR IS HERE AS WELL AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CHIEF WHEN I WAS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO, YOU KNOW, AS ALWAYS, PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB FOR US.

AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM BEFORE WE START ON THE ON THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL.

SCOTT REYNOLDS, TOWN OF JUPITER FINANCE.

JUST A LITTLE HISTORICAL.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION THIS EVENING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE HISTORICAL ITEMS. WE'VE HAD A LONG STANDING HISTORY WITH THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WELL OVER 35 YEARS.

WE'VE, AS THE TOWN MANAGER HAS INTRODUCED, WE DO HAVE THE COUNTY FIRE CHIEF HERE, ALONG WITH THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, CHIEF DUREN, ALONG WITH MY COUNTERPART OVER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS MIKE MARTZ.

I WORK WITH THEM EVERY YEAR WHEN WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER THE BUDGET.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DISCUSS IS THAT WE'VE HAD A LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN, AND THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS PROVIDED EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE AND SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES HERE IN JUPITER.

THE TOWN OF JUPITER VALUES ITS PARTNERSHIP WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, SAFETY EDUCATION AND AWARENESS, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INVOLVEMENT.

YOU CAN SEE FROM SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT WE POST HERE.

THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THE NEXT SLIDE DEFINITELY DEMONSTRATES THIS.

EVERY YEAR WE DO OUR CITIZENS SURVEY.

THE COUNTY FIRE RANKS VERY HIGH EVERY YEAR ON THE SURVEY, WHICH AGAIN SHOWS THE QUALITY OF SERVICE BEING PROVIDED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE BUDGETARY CYCLE THIS PAST SUMMER, IS THAT WE WILL BE REACHING THE END OF LIFE OF OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE.

AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACRONYMS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN AROUND LIKE MSTU, JUPITER MSTU, INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE AND WALKING THROUGH A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.

PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE WAS FORMED IN 1984 THROUGH PALM BEACH COUNTY RESOLUTION, CONSOLIDATING EXISTING DISTRICTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

JUPITER RECEIVED FIRE SERVICES FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE FOR WELL OVER 35 YEARS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KEEP HEARING IS JUPITER MSTU.

WELL WHAT IS AN MSTU? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT OVER THE SUMMER.

MSTUS ARE VERY UNIQUE TO COUNTIES.

IT ALLOWS THEM BY FLORIDA STATUTE AS A MECHANISM FOR COLLECTING AD VALOREM TAXES WITHIN A JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY.

MUNICIPALS CAN PARTICIPATE IN THOSE MSTUS THROUGH AN ADOPTION OF A LOCAL LEGISLATION WHICH WE REQUEST TO BE INCLUDED FOR, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US MUNICIPAL SERVICES SUCH AS FIRE, WHICH AS WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST 35 YEARS.

THE CURRENT JUPITER MSTU AND OUR LOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR FIRE PROTECTION AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, FUNDING FROM THE JUPITER MSTU HAS SHOWN AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM ON THE RESIDENTS TAX BILL, AS YOU KNOW, IS JUPITER TAXPAYERS.

YOU CAN LOOK ON YOUR TAX BILL.

YOU WILL SEE AN ITEM CALLED JUPITER MSTU.

THAT IS THE TAXES COLLECTED BY THE TAX COLLECTOR AND DISTRIBUTED TO PALM BEACH COUNTY FOR THE PROVISION OF FIRE WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS.

REVENUES FROM THE MSTU ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE TOWN'S BUDGET.

HOWEVER, THE JUPITER MSTU MILLAGE DOES COUNT TOWARDS THE TOWN'S OVERALL MILLAGE CAP OF TEN MILLS.

THE JUPITER TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE 4213.

THIS IS THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING UNDER.

IT INCLUDES THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES OF THE TOWN AND THE JUPITER MSTU .

THIS WAS FOR A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS AND WE'RE STARTING TO REACH THAT END OF LIFE OF THAT MSTU AGREEMENT.

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ONE OF THE ITEMS TONIGHT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IS THE TOWN MUST NOTIFY THE COUNTY BY THE EXPIRATION DATE OF DECEMBER 31, 2022, WHETHER OR NOT IT WISHES TO CONTINUE WITH THE JUPITER MSTU.

AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE FIRE PROTECTION EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ARE ALSO ADOPTED IN 2013.

THIS IS THE COMPANION DOCUMENT TO THE MSTU ORDINANCE.

THIS HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE OF SEPTEMBER 30, 2023.

THE CENTER LOCAL AGREEMENT SPECIFIES THE SERVICES THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE WILL PROVIDE TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER RESIDENTS BASED ON ACTUAL COST OF SERVICES PROVIDED WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND ALSO ALLOWS FOR REVENUE CREDITS FOR EMS AND OTHER MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES.

SO KNOWING THAT WE WERE COMING TO THE END OF LIFE, THE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED A NEW PROPOSAL.

THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, BUT THEY HAVE SINCE PROVIDED SOME, AN UPDATED PROPOSAL AFTER THE PUBLISHING OF THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT.

I WILL GO OVER THOSE NUMBERS LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO TRY TO SHOW IS HOW WHAT IS THEIR NEW PROPOSAL AND HOW DOES IT RELATE TO THE HISTORICAL FUNDING THAT HAS OCCURRED OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.

THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS NOTIFIED THE TOWN THAT IT DOES NOT WISH TO RENEW THE CURRENT JUPITER MSTU IN OUR LOCAL AS WRITTEN WITH THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY.

THE NEW PROPOSAL AGREEMENT REMOVES THE ACTUAL COST METHODOLOGY, WHICH IS BASED ON NUMBER OF CALLS, PERSONNEL AND THE REVENUE CREDITS AND MOVES THE JUPITER MSTU TO A COUNTY WIDE FIRE RESCUE MSTU MILLAGE RATE, A ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL METHODOLOGY.

IT ALSO ELIMINATES THE REVENUE CREDITS.

FUNDING COLLECTED FROM THE JUPITER RESIDENTS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNTY WIDE FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.

THE COUNTY WIDE METHODOLOGY WOULD INCREASE THE CURRENT JUPITER FY 23 MILLAGE RATE OF 1.8713 TO 3.4581 BY 2028.

THAT'S OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD IS WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, OR 85% INCREASE OVER THE FIVE YEARS, WHICH WOULD BE ALSO A $34 MILLION INCREASE OR 129% DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD.

AS WE ALL KNOW, THE JUPITER MILLAGE RATE FOR OPERATIONS IS 2.4633 SITTING BETWEEN THE COUNTY PROPOSAL RATES FOR FY 24 AND FY 25 FOR FIRE RESCUE SERVICE.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART WITH THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT IT WOULD ESCALATE PAST THE TOTAL JUPITER OPERATING MILLAGE.

THE AD VALOREM TAX REVENUES RESULTING FROM THIS MILLAGE RATE WOULD FUND THE, ALSO FUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OTHER TOWN OPERATIONS RELY ON THE SOURCE OF REVENUES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE $26 MILLION IS WHAT THE CURRENT TOWN OF JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AT AND THEN THE PROPOSED MILLAGE GOING FORWARD BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS.

ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, TOO, IS THE ASSUMPTIONS ROLLING FORWARD IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

IT'S THE ASSUMPTIONS OF THE ASSESSED VALUES THAT WE'VE BEEN USING ALL SUMMER LONG WHEN WE TRY TO LOOK FORWARD.

WE KNOW IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WE'RE AT LIKE A 13.11% INCREASE IN THE VALUES.

WHAT WE'VE BEEN USING AS A BENCHMARK TO PROJECT OUT IS IN NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE 8%, GO DOWN TO ABOUT 5% AND INCREASE IN VALUES AND THEN FLATTEN OUT TO A FOUR AND A 4% GOING FORWARD.

SO THOSE ASSUMPTIONS HAVE BEEN BUILT INTO THESE MODELS WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE VALUES AND THEN COMPARING IT TO THESE MILLAGES.

SO WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF THE ORIGINAL PALM BEACH COUNTY PROPOSAL ON JUPITER RESIDENTS? WE GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE HERE IN THE BUDGET.

WE WANT TO SAY HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT A TYPICAL HOME HERE IN JUPITER, A $550,000 HOME? YOU CAN SEE THE MILLAGE RATE FY 23 IS 1.8713.

THAT'S ABOUT $967,000 OR I'M SORRY, $967 ANNUALLY.

BUT THEN GOING FORWARD, UNDER THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, YOU CAN SEE IT WOULD INCREASE BY $820 ANNUALLY TO $1,786. SO WITH THAT, I KNOW THE

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YEAH. JUST QUICKLY, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I THINK STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF TRYING TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY COMPLETE SATISFACTION WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

NO DISSATISFACTION THERE WHATSOEVER.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT POINT.

BUT WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, YOU LOOK AT THIS GRAPH.

FROM 2007 TO 2023 WE'VE OPERATED UNDER AN AGREEMENT FOR ACTUAL COSTS, AND THAT WAS, WE HAD CONSIDERED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, BRANCHING OUT TO OUR OWN FIRE RESCUE.

WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, AND WE'VE HAD THAT.

AND SO WHEN YOU SEE THE GREEN SOLID LINE, THOSE ARE THE HISTORICAL COSTS FOR 15 YEARS.

PALM BEACH COUNTY DIDN'T LOSE ANY MONEY BECAUSE THEY WERE ACTUAL COSTS ADJUSTED EVERY YEAR.

AND THAT WAS THE COST OF RUNNING FIRE RESCUE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, I MEAN, IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

FAIR TO BOTH PARTIES.

SO THEN THEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK, WE HEAR THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO GO AWAY FROM ACTUAL COST. AND THE RED LINE IS WHAT THEIR FIRST PROPOSAL WAS.

SO THE DASH GREEN LINE IS WHAT THE TREND LINE WAS.

IF YOU COULD SEE IT'S UP, DOWN, WHATEVER.

SO WE PROJECT OUT TO 2028.

CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO GO UP.

WHAT ISN'T GOING UP, BUT WHAT AN ACTUAL COST TO SERVICE.

AND WE'RE A TOWN NOW THAT IS CLOSE TO BUILDOUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD SHOULD BE PRETTY, SHOULD BE PRETTY PREDICTABLE.

SO IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT RED LINE, OKAY, THAT REPRESENTED IN FISCAL YEAR 28, IT ASK FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO FUND 234% OF HISTORICAL COSTS IN THAT SAME YEAR.

21 AND A HALF PERCENT ANNUAL COST INCREASE PER YEAR.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE FOR WHAT WHAT I'M PRESENTING VERSUS, AND THESE NUMBERS ALL CAME FROM MR. REYNOLDS, IS THAT HE WAS PRESENTING IT IN MILLS TO GET IT INTO A TAXPAYER HOMEOWNER LEVEL.

AND THIS IS JUST TOTAL DOLLARS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT RUNNING, YOU KNOW, FIRE RESCUE, IT'S A TOTAL DOLLARS PER YEAR.

SO 21 AND A HALF PERCENT ANNUAL INCREASE PER YEAR.

FACED WITH THAT, WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT PROCEED DOWN A PATH TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE THAT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, SUCH A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR PUBLIC.

SO IT WASN'T THAT WE WANTED TO LEAVE PALM BEACH COUNTY.

IT'S WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO START SUBSIDIZING THE COST OF PROVIDING FIRE RESCUE SERVICES TO MORE RURAL AREAS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, WHERE COST FOR SERVICES ARE INHERENTLY HIGHER.

AND WE'D LIKE TO STAY WITH WHAT WE HAD.

WE'LL PAY ACTUAL COSTS, AND THAT COULD BE FAIRER THAN THAT.

SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO PREFACE, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.

BUT AGAIN, I JUST REALLY WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THE BLUE LINE WE'LL HEAR LATER.

THERE'S A REVISED PROPOSAL THAT CAME IN LATE BREAKING LAST WEEK THAT WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL FAR AWAY.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF HEAR A PROGRESS REPORT.

AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE, WHY ARE YOU LOOKING TO GO ELSEWHERE? LOOK AT THE RED LINE HERE.

21 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE EACH YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

I THINK THAT'S AN UNFAIR ASK OF OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO THIS.

OKAY.

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SO WE'VE DONE THAT.

WE HIRED ICMA TO COME IN AND ASSIST US IN MIDSUMMER.

THEY'VE REALLY BEEN A GREAT GROUP TO WORK WITH AND THIS SECTION OF THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL GO OVER THESE ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAS BEEN PRODUCED BY THE ICMA.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO INTRODUCE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REPRESENTING TONIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE CHIEF JOSEPH POZZO.

CHIEF POZZO HAS OVER 40 YEARS IN A CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE, SERVING AS A PRACTITIONER, FRONTLINE SUPERVISOR AND MIDDLE MANAGER IN ALL AREAS OF FIRE AND EMS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, HUMAN RESOURCES, AND AS A SENIOR EXECUTIVE IN THE ROLE OF FIRE CHIEF AND PUBLIC PROTECTION DIRECTOR IN VIRGINIA AND FLORIDA, CHIEF POZZO HAS WORKED WITH THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND MANAGEMENT FOR 12 YEARS, SERVING AS A PROJECT MANAGER ON OVER 50 FIRE AND EMS PROJECTS FOR TOWNS, CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

CHIEF POZZO CURRENTLY IS THE SENIOR MANAGER FOR FIRE AND EMS. CHIEF POZZO ALSO HOLDS A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION DEGREE FROM TROY UNIVERSITY, A BA IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM SAINT LEO AND NUMEROUS PUBLIC SAFETY, TECHNICAL AND CERTIFICATION.

HE HOLDS THE FIRE CHIEF, CHIEF FIRE OFFICIALS DESIGNATION FROM THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC EXCELLENCE AND IS A SENIOR CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL HUMAN RESOURCES THROUGH THE SOCIETY OF HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, OR SHRM.

IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH CHIEF POZZO THIS SUMMER.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT. WE ALSO HAVE CHIEF PILAND.

CHIEF PILAND HAS OVER 35 YEARS IN FIRE RESCUE SERVICE WITH EXPERIENCE IN THE AREAS OF FIRE ADMINISTRATION, FIRE PREVENTION, FIRE OPERATIONS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CERT TRAINING, SPECIAL OPERATIONS, FIRE ACCREDITATION, FIRE STATION AND TRAINING FACILITY DESIGN EMERGENCY RESPONSE WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS AND EXECUTIVE LEVEL MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET AS A PRACTITIONER, FIRST LINE SUPERVISOR, MIDDLE MANAGER AND FIRE CHIEF IN VIRGINIA AND FLORIDA AND TEXAS.

CHIEF PILAND HAS WORKED WITH THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT FOR THREE YEARS, SERVING AS A PROJECT LEADER ON FIRE AND EMS PROJECTS FOR TOWNS, CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

CHIEF PILAND CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE SENIOR ASSOCIATE FOR FIRE AND EMS. CHIEF PILAND EARNED A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC HEALTH FROM EASTERN VIRGINIA MEDICAL SCHOOL AND A BACHELOR OF PSYCHOLOGY FROM OLD DOMINION UNIVERSITY AND IS A GRADUATE OF THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY'S EXECUTIVE FIRE OFFICER PROGRAM, THE EXECUTIVE LEADERS PROGRAM AT THE POST NAVAL GRADUATE SCHOOL CENTER FOR HOMELAND DEFENSE AND SENIOR EXECUTIVES IN STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT FROM KENNEDY SCHOOL AT HARVARD.

ALSO PART OF CHIEF POZZO'S TEAM IS JASON BRADY.

JASON HAS A 30 YEAR CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE, SERVING AS A PRACTITIONER, FRONTLINE SUPERVISOR, MIDDLE MANAGER AND SENIOR EXECUTIVE IN THE AREAS OF EMS IN VIRGINIA, ILLINOIS AND GEORGIA.

JASON CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF EMS OF UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL, NEWARK, NEW JERSEY, WHERE HE PROVIDES EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TO GROUND ALS/BLS 911 OPERATIONS, NEW JERSEY STATE POLICE MEDIVAC PROGRAM, FBI NETWORK, SWAT BLUE TEAM MEDICAL COORDINATION UNIT, NEW JERSEY TASK FORCE OPERATIONS, EMS URBAN HEAVY AND TECHNICAL RESCUE OPERATIONS, NEW JERSEY PORT AUTHORITY OPERATIONS FOR BOTH LIBERTY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND NEWARK SEAPORT.

JASON HAS WORKED WITH THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT FOR ONE YEAR, SERVING AS THE EMS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON PROJECTS FOR TOWNS, CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. JASON CURRENTLY SERVES AS AN ASSOCIATE FOR EMS. JASON IS CURRENTLY A DOCTORAL CANDIDATE IN HIS DISSEMINATION PHASE OF THE DEGREE OF DOCTOR OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND HEALTH CARE ADMINISTRATION FOR LIBERTY UNIVERSITY.

HE HOLDS A MASTER OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION FROM SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE UNIVERSITY AND HOLDS A BACHELOR IN SCIENCE AND HEALTH SCIENCE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES MANAGEMENT

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JASON IS A NATIONALLY REGISTERED PARAMEDIC, A NEW JERSEY LICENSED MICP, A CERTIFIED FIRE FIGHTER IN NEW JERSEY, VIRGINIA AND GEORGIA.

JASON IS A CERTIFIED SIX SIGMA BLACK BELT IN PROCESS IMPROVEMENT AND CURRENTLY PREPARING FOR HIS PROJECT MANAGEMENT PROFESSIONAL PMP GLOBAL EXAM.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF POZZO.

HE'S GOT A NUMBER OF SLIDES.

THESE ARE THE PRELIMINARY FINDINGS FROM HIS STUDY.

AND AGAIN, CHIEF POZZO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SCOTT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS TO HELP YOU THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND PERHAPS PROVIDE YOU SOME SOME DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED TO DO.

I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T REALLY THANK ALSO PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

AS SCOTT SAID, THEY HAVE PROVIDED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION AND DATA.

WE HAVE REQUESTED QUITE A BIT, WHICH YOU WILL SEE IN A TECHNICAL REPORT IN JANUARY.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT MUCH OF IT HAS COME FROM THEM.

CHIEF KENNEDY AND HIS STAFF HAVE BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH.

I MYSELF HAVE MET WITH CHIEF KENNEDY A FEW TIMES, HAD LUNCH WITH HIM, AND I CAN TELL YOU, AS EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, IT'S A GREAT FIRE DEPARTMENT, NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE IN GOOD HANDS.

SO I, A STUDY, WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN A MINUTE.

BUT LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT.

WE ARE THE EXCLUSIVE PROVIDER OF TECHNICAL PUBLIC SAFETY, TECHNICAL EXPERTISE TO THE INTERNATIONAL CITY COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE REALLY THE MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.

IT'S A 108 YEAR OLD ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SEVERAL THOUSAND MEMBERS.

WE DO STRATEGIC AND PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLANNING FOR ORGANIZATIONS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS FOR POLICE, FIRE, EMS AND 911 CENTERS, PUBLIC SAFETY CHIEF SELECTION.

WE HAVE CONDUCTED OVER 400 SUCH STUDIES OVER A 14 YEAR PERIOD IN 46 STATES AND IN CANADA.

OUR FIRE AND EMS TEAM, AS YOU HAVE JUST HEARD, IS STAFFED WITH HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF PRACTITIONER, FIRST LINE SUPERVISOR, MANAGEMENT AND SENIOR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE.

SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS STUDY? I THINK THE MAYOR PRETTY MUCH CAPTURED IT.

THIS IS ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND ITS SUSTAINABILITY FOR YOUR CITIZENS, SUSTAINABILITY OF HOW YOU CAN PAY FOR FIRE AND EMS SERVICES IN YOUR TOWN.

AND REALLY WHAT MILLAGE OR TAX OR WHAT THE COST OF THAT IS.

SO WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT THAT.

WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME ALTERNATIVES, WHICH WE ARE WORKING THROUGH AND HAVE ALREADY PRELIMINARILY AND GIVE YOU SOME RELEVANT INFORMATION.

AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST ME TALKING THIS EVENING.

IT'S MORE THAN MR. REYNOLDS COMING UP HERE AND SHOWING YOU WHAT THE NUMBERS WITH THE PROJECTED NUMBERS CAN BE.

IT'S REALLY SOME RELEVANT DATA WHICH WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER NOW, AND WE'LL HAVE A TECHNICAL REPORT THAT SUPPORTS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK THROUGH THIS EVENING, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO IF YOU WANT TO BUILD YOUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.

IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK, BUT WE WILL PROVIDE ALL OF THAT BACK UP INFORMATION TO YOU.

WE HAVE MOST OF IT, BUT WE NEED TO FINALIZE THAT AND PUT THAT INTO A TECHNICAL REPORT.

AGAIN, AND IT'S BEEN SAID MANY TIMES, WE HAVE NOT HEARD ONE TIME ABOUT ANY DISSATISFACTION WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

NONE. NO BAD PATIENT OUTCOMES WITH EMS, NO BAD OUTCOMES WITH FIRE RESPONSES AT ALL.

AND AGAIN, IT'S A WONDERFUL STAFF AND THEY'VE BEEN WONDERFUL TO US.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT.

ANYTHING WE'VE ASKED FOR, THEY HAVE GIVEN TO US.

SO WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS.

WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ON SOME RELEVANT INFORMATION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED.

SO WHAT SERVICES DO THEY PROVIDE TO YOU CURRENTLY? WELL, THERE'S THREE FIRE STATIONS IN JUPITER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO IN THE VICINITY.

THERE ALSO IS A FIRE STATION IN UNINCORPORATED PALM BEACH COUNTY TO THE WEST.

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THEY ALL PROVIDE RESOURCES ALSO INTO THE TOWN.

YOU ALSO HAVE THE LARGER FOOTPRINT OF A LARGE DEPARTMENT.

SO ALL SERVICES THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE PROVIDES IS AVAILABLE TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

NOT ALL OF IT IS IMMEDIATE BECAUSE ALL OF IT COMES FROM DIFFERENT AREAS OF PALM BEACH COUNTY.

HOWEVER, THEY WILL AVAIL THAT TO YOU AND HAVE IN THE PAST.

49 STATIONS, 1700 PLUS PERSONNEL, FIRE AND EMS, 911 DISPATCH.

THEY PROVIDE FULL SERVICE FIRE AND EMS SUPPORT.

FIRE, EMS, SPECIAL OPERATIONS, WHICH IS TECHNICAL RESCUE.

THEY HAVE A SPECIAL OPERATIONS UNIT AT YOUR STATION, 19 AIR MEDEVAC, MOBILE INTENSIVE HEALTH SERVICES THAT THEY ALSO PROVIDE TO YOUR CITIZENS HERE, FULL SERVICE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, REALLY, WHICH IS THE FIRE PREVENTION, PUBLIC FIRE EDUCATION, PLANS REVIEW AND ALL THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OR RECONSTRUCTION AND SO FORTH.

SO, FULL SERVICE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO A MAP OF SORT OF WHERE THE STATIONS ARE.

YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THIS.

STATION 19.

AND THIS IS JUST WHAT'S IN EACH STATION.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE TO GO OVER THIS.

IN A NUTSHELL, IT'S THREE ENGINES, IMMEDIATE DISPATCH INTO THE TOWN OF JUPITER, THE THREE MEDIC UNITS.

THEY ARE STAFFED, THE MEDICAL UNITS ARE STAFFED WITH THREE PARAMEDICS AND ALL OF THE ENGINES ARE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT.

YOU GET LADDER COMPANY SERVICE OUT OF JUNO BEACH FROM A PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE UNIT DOWN THERE, AS WELL AS OTHER MEDICAL UNITS THAT WOULD COME FROM ALSO THROUGH AUTOMATIC AID THROUGH TEQUESTA AND PALM BEACH GARDENS.

SO YOU'RE IN A GOOD POSITION RIGHT NOW.

YOU HAVE CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITIES AND YOU ALSO HAVE CONTIGUOUS PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE STATIONS AROUND YOU.

SO THE CONTRACT CALLS FOR CURRENT YEAR.

AND SO THIS IS SORT OF A STARTING POINT, RIGHT? WHEN YOU START TO TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY OF FIRE AND EMS SERVICES, BECAUSE ALL PUBLIC SERVICES, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER SUSTAINABILITY.

IT'S NOT JUST FIRE AND EMS, IT'S IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

IT'S THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SO IT'S ALL REALLY ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.

IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT THE GENERAL FUND MILLAGE RATE IS.

IT'S ABOUT WHAT OTHER MILLAGE RATES ARE PUT ON TOP OF THE GENERAL FUND AND ALL OF THE, HOW ALL OF THAT'S ADDED UP FOR YOUR TAX BILL FOR YOUR CITIZENS.

THAT'S WHAT SUSTAINABILITY IS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

SO IT TAKES ALL OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

THIS IS JUST A PIECE OF IT.

HOWEVER, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT IT.

SO THE CURRENT BUDGET IS 25 EIGHT, CLOSE TO $26 MILLION.

THIS IS A DIRECT COST BUDGET, AS THE MAYOR SAID.

IT'S REALLY IS WHAT ARE THE OPERATIONAL COST? AND THEN THEY PUT SOME OVERHEAD ON IT, WHICH I'LL GO OVER WHAT THAT IS.

SO THE DIRECT COST IS ABOUT $21 MILLION, WHICH IS 63% OF THE BATTALION 1 BUDGET.

SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE STATIONS, IT'S THE THREE JUPITER STATIONS, IT'S THE STATION THAT'S OUT WEST ON INDIAN TOWN, IT'S THE ONE IN JUNEAU. AND THEN THERE'S TWO OTHER STATIONS IN BATTALION 1 THAT ARE SOUTH OF PALM BEACH GARDENS.

SO IN TOTAL, BATTALION 1 IS INITIAL RESPONSE UNITS, SEVEN ENGINE, SIX ENGINES, THE QUINT OR LADDER TRUCK DOWN IN JUNO BEACH AND SEVEN MEDIC UNITS.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S ON THE ROAD DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

THERE'S ANCILLARY UNITS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANCILLARY UNITS IN THE STATIONS IN JUPITER, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT SOME BRUSH TRUCKS THAT IS IN ONE IN EACH STATION.

THEY HAVE SOME SPECIAL OPERATIONS AT THEIR, AT STATION 19, ALL IMPORTANT PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.

THOSE ARE ANCILLARY. THEY'RE SORT OF CROSS STAFF.

SO IF AN ALARM COMES IN, THEY NEED A BRUSH TRUCK THEY JUST DROP OFF THE ENGINE, TAKE THE BRUSH TRUCK AND TAKE THAT TO WHERE IT'S NEEDED.

BUT IN TOTAL, THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST RESPONSE UNITS.

SO THE FORMULA THAT THEY HAVE FOR THIS DIRECT COST OF THE ENTIRE BATTALION, WHICH IS 14 UNITS AND OF WHICH SIX ARE IN JUPITER, IS ABOUT 63%.

OKAY. SO THEY GET TO DIRECT COST UP TO $21 MILLION.

NOW THERE'S SOME OVERHEAD COSTS, RIGHT.

AND THAT PAYS FOR FIRE CHIEF, HIS STAFF WHICH IS, IT'S THE RIGHT SIZE STAFF FOR THAT LARGE

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BUT IT'S THE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION PIECE AS WELL.

RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE FIRE INSPECTORS THAT COME IN, INSPECT YOUR BUILDINGS.

YOU GOT PEOPLE WHO REVIEW YOUR PLANS.

THEY'RE MOBILE INTENSIVE OR MOBILE INTEGRATED.

HEALTH IS PART OF THAT.

LOGISTICS IS PART OF THAT.

FLEET IS PART OF THAT.

FACILITY, MANAGEMENT IS PART OF THAT.

SO THAT'S ALL PART OF THAT OVERHEAD COST OF ABOUT $5 MILLION, A LITTLE OVER.

AND THEN THIS YEAR THEY ROLLED FORWARD FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET ABOUT $1,000,000 FOR FACILITIES, APPARATUS, EQUIPMENT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS CONTINUAL REPLACEMENT OF THAT.

SO THE NET'S $27,242,383.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN YOU GET SOME REVENUE CREDITS.

SO PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE UNDER NOW, YOU GET REVENUE CREDITS, AND MOST OF THAT IS FROM EMS GROUND TRANSPORT REVENUES.

SO THEY GIVE YOU CREDIT BACK FOR THAT.

SO YOU GET A TOTAL OF ABOUT 26 MILLION, 25 EIGHT OR $26 MILLION.

AGAIN, THIS IS A COST FOR SERVICE FORMULA.

SO, SOME OTHER REVENUES THAT THEY ALSO COLLECT.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ON EMS GROUND TRANSPORT, IT'S ABOUT 4000 BILLABLE TRANSPORTS A YEAR AND EMS TRANSPORTS AND HOW YOU BUILD FOR THAT.

IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED SYSTEM.

THERE'S THE CENTER FOR MEDICARE AND MEDICAID.

THEY PROVIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING BACK.

RIGHT. IT'S A PRETTY HARD FORMULA.

OKAY. AND WHAT YOU BUILD FOR, YOU TYPICALLY DO NOT GET FROM MEDICARE AND MEDICAID.

THEY HAVE A PRETTY STANDARD FORMULA AND HOW THEY PROVIDE REVENUES BACK.

THEN THERE'S PRIVATE INSURANCE.

PEOPLE PAY CASH.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T PAY ANYTHING.

OKAY. THAT'S JUST HOW EMS TRANSPORT BILLING GOES.

THE CASH IN HAND IS ABOUT $1.5 MILLION.

WE HAVE 1.8 HERE BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO SOME UNIDENTIFIED REVENUES THAT COME IN.

AND THEN THERE'S COLLECTIONS BECAUSE EMS TRANSPORT REVENUES DON'T ALWAYS HIT IN THE SAME YEAR THEY OCCUR.

THEY WILL HIT IN A FORWARD YEAR OR A FORWARD TWO YEARS.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE COLLECTIONS GO AND WHEN THE BILLS ARE PAID.

SO OUR EMS EXPERT ESTIMATED ABOUT $300,000 THERE.

COULD BE LOWER, BUT WE KNOW THE CASH IN HAND IS ABOUT $1.5 MILLION A YEAR.

AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT NUMBER FOR YOU TO REMEMBER DEPENDING ON WHAT MODEL YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE.

AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GET INTO CALLS FOR YOUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO PERHAPS WHAT THE NEW CONTRACT IS FOR.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE IMPACT FEES.

SO THIS IS A TEN YEAR MARK OF WHAT IMPACT FEES WERE COLLECTED.

RIGHT. AND YOU CAN USE IMPACT FEES UNDER THE STATUTES FOR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.

YOU CAN DO SOME BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS WITH THAT.

YOU CAN EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT OF A BUILDING.

SO IF THEY WANT TO USE THAT TO EXPAND ANY FOOTPRINTS OF THE FIRE STATIONS HERE IN JUPITER, THEY CAN DO THAT.

SO OVER TEN YEARS, ABOUT $1.2 MILLION, THERE WAS, EXCUSE ME, A THREE YEAR PERIOD WHERE THEY HAD A MORATORIUM ON IMPACT FEES.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED NOT ONLY IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, BUT ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA AT AROUND THAT TIME PERIOD.

HOWEVER, THERE WAS A TIME PERIOD THAT THEY WEREN'T.

THEY'RE COLLECTING THOSE REVENUES AS WELL.

NOW, JUST DISREGARD THE NUMBER BECAUSE THE MAYOR SAID THERE'S THERE'S BEEN A NEW PROPOSAL JUST IN THE LAST WEEK.

AND SO THIS WAS PREPARED PRIOR TO THAT, HOWEVER.

SO WE'LL START AT THE 1.8713.

AND THIS ONE JUST SHOWS WHAT THE RATE INCREASE GOES TO IF THEY WENT WITH THE 3.4581.

SO IT IS STILL A 93% RATE INCREASE, JUST BY NUMBERS.

HOW THE REVENUE IS GENERATED.

THERE'S, THIS IS MR. REYNOLDS' PROJECTIONS ON HOW THE AD VALOREM, WHAT YOUR PORTFOLIO IS ESTIMATED TO BE AFTER, OR OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

AND INTERESTINGLY IT GOES UP.

BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T SEE IN THE CONTRACT OR THE PROPOSED CONTRACT WAS ARE THERE ANY NEW PROPOSED SERVICES? SO WE DIDN'T SEE ANY NEW PROPOSED SERVICES THAT WOULD CORRESPOND WITH A RATE INCREASE OR A REVENUE INCREASE.

AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A STRAIGHT TAX RATE FORMULA.

IT'S NOTHING NEW TO FUND.

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COULD BE A FIRE CONTROLLED DISTRICT WHERE YOU HAVE A BOARD THAT JUST SETS WHAT WITH THE MILITARY IT IS FOR THE FIRE SERVICE.

CAN BE A DEPENDENT TAXING DISTRICT OR A DEPENDENT FIRE TAX DISTRICT FIRE DEPARTMENT WHERE A MILITARY IS JUST SET.

SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A STRAIGHT TAX RATE.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S UNHEARD OF.

BUT TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, YOU WERE UNDER A DIFFERENT FORMULA, AND IT'S THIS FORMULA.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT.

AND MR. REYNOLDS WILL GO OVER WHAT THE LATEST, LAST WEEK'S NEW FORMULA IS.

OKAY. SO THAT'S UP FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

SO AGAIN, WE WERE ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE RECEIVED THE DIRECTION FROM THE TOWN MANAGER AND MR. REYNOLDS. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? SO I THINK THERE'S FOUR OPTIONS.

THERE COULD BE FIVE AND SIX, BUT THERE'S FOUR I THINK PRIMARY OPTIONS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER .

ONE REALLY IS KIND OF STATUS QUO EXCEPT A PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT PROPOSAL.

VOTE ON IT, PUT IT IN PLACE.

YOU CONTINUE FORWARD.

THAT'S, YOU CAN DO THAT.

ANOTHER ONE IS CREATE A TOWN OF JUPITER FIRE AND EMS DEPARTMENT.

YOU COULD CONTRACT FIRE AND EMS WITH A CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITY.

YOU HAVE, THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

YOU'VE GOT PALM BEACH GARDENS, YOU'VE GOT TEQUESTA, YOU'VE GOT NORTH PALM A LITTLE FARTHER DOWN, BUT YOU HAVE SOME MUNICIPALITIES CLOSE TO YOU THAT YOU COULD CONTRACT WITH, OR YOU COULD FIND OTHER PARTNERS AND CREATE A A FIRE CONTROL DISTRICT UNDER THE STATE OF FLORIDA STATUTES.

SO THE STATUS QUO OR OPTION 1, MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICE.

YOU JUST ACCEPT A PROPOSAL FOR A FIVE YEAR TERM.

OCTOBER 1, 2023 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2028.

DISREGARD THE 93%.

I WOULD SAY 8% INCREASE IN THE FIRE MSTU.

BECAUSE I THINK THE LATEST PROPOSAL WHICH YOU WOULD SEE STILL HAS A INCREASE AND THE MAYOR SHOWED I THINK IT'S THE BLUE LINE STILL HAS AN INCREASE IN THE FIRE MSTU. YOU DO THOUGH, HOWEVER, REMAIN A PART OF THE BIGGER RIGHT FOOTPRINT FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WE WENT OVER: 1700 PEOPLE, 49 STATIONS, TECHNICAL SERVICES, FIRE PREVENTION BUREAU TRAINING, ALL OF THAT.

YOU COULD CREATE YOUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WHEN WE PUT THIS OPTION ON THE TABLE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, WE WERE ASKED TO COME UP WITH WHAT WOULD IT COST TO DO THIS.

SO WE'LL FIRST START, YOU CREATE YOUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? INCLUDES FACILITIES.

NOT ALL OF THE FACILITIES THAT THAT IS CURRENTLY IN YOUR TOWN YOU OWN.

IN FACT YOU DON'T OWN ANY OF THEM.

OKAY. THERE'S ONE WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, THE ONE IN ABACOA, HOWEVER.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONSTRUCT SOME BUILDINGS.

APPARATUS. YOU DON'T OWN ANY APPARATUS.

SO YOU START YOUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT TO BUY APPARATUS, YOU'VE GOT TO BUY ENGINES.

YOU GOT TO BUY A LADDER.

GOT TO BUY MEDIC UNITS.

AND IT TAKES, AS YOU'LL SEE, RIGHT, FOR THREE ENGINES, IF YOU START YOUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT TAKES FOUR TO MAKE THREE.

SO YOU GOT TO BUY AN EXTRA SO YOU HAVE A SPARE.

IT TAKES FOUR MEDIC UNITS TO RUN THREE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A SPARE.

SO THERE'S COST TO THAT, ALL THE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, UNIFORMS AND THE PEOPLE.

SO ALL OF THAT COMES WITH IT.

BUT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THAT NOW.

YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THAT.

YOU'LL JUST HAVE SOME START UP COSTS.

AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COSTS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

SO WE PROPOSE FIRE, EMS, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION.

RIGHT? YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FIRE PREVENTION STAFF, TECHNICAL OPERATIONS.

YOU CAN'T DO WHAT PALM BEACH COUNTY DOES WITH THREE ENGINES AND A LADDER AND THREE AMBULANCES.

BUT YOU CAN DO SOME OF THOSE TECHNICAL THINGS AT AN OPERATIONAL LEVEL.

THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE YOU CAN START AND THEN WAIT FOR EITHER PALM BEACH GARDENS TO COME, PALM BEACH COUNTY TO COME.

BUT YOU CAN GET SOMETHING STARTED THERE.

IT'S DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ALL EVERY DAY.

YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT LOGISTICS, RIGHT? YOU GOT A WHOLE SUPPLY CHAIN THAT GOES INTO FIRE AND EMS.

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YOU GOT TO GET FIRE, YOU GOT TO PICK STUFF UP, BRING IT BACK.

GOT TO CLEAN TURNOUT GEAR.

THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT.

SO YOU NEED A LOGISTICS STAFF, QUARTERMASTER.

TRAINING.

GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE TO DO THE TRAINING, HAVE PEOPLE TO MONITOR THE TRAINING, MAKE SURE THERE'S COMPLIANCE AND TRAINING, ADMIN SUPPORT, FLEET SUPPORT, FACILITY SUPPORT, ALL OF THAT COMES WITH IT.

BUT SAME THING YOU DO WITH PUBLIC WORKS NOW, SAME THING YOU DO WITH WHATEVER HEAVY EQUIPMENT YOU OWN NOW, RIGHT? SO YOU GOT TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

YOU'VE GOT TO HOUSE IT SOME PLACE.

YOU'VE GOT BUILDINGS NOW THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF.

SO THAT'S NOT NEW TO YOU.

YOU'RE JUST SORT OF ADDING TO IT.

GOT TO CONSIDER 911 DISPATCH SERVICES.

NOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? WELL, COUNTY DOES THAT FOR YOU NOW AND THEY PROVIDE THE RADIOS NOW AND ANYBODY THAT'S IN THEIR SYSTEM, THEY EVEN GIVE YOU THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR FIRE NOW.

OKAY. WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE.

GOT TO CONSIDER THE CERTIFICATE OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY.

COPCN. IT'S A LOT OF WORDS, MEANS A LOT.

IT'S UNDER, IT'S REALLY CONTROLLED BY THE STATUTES AND IT FLOWS DOWN TO COUNTIES, REALLY WHO CONTROLS COPCN, GOES THROUGH THEIR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ORDINANCE.

BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THIS, YOU CAN.

THERE IS A PROGRAM AND A WAY YOU CAN GET INTO TO EMS. YOU'D HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW YOU FUND IT, BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS A TOWN OR A CITY CAN FUND FIRE.

YOU DO IT ALL THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, YOU CAN FUND IT THROUGH, YOU COULD CREATE YOUR OWN DEPENDENT DISTRICT INSIDE THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND YOU COULD KEEP A SEPARATE MILLAGE RATE JUST LIKE YOU HAVE NOW.

IT'S AN MSTU, BUT IT'S A SEPARATE MILLAGE RATE.

IF YOU DO LIKE A FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE, CAN'T INCLUDE EMS IN THAT.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN FUND.

AND OF COURSE, FIRES FUNDING COULD BE FUNDED THROUGH AGAIN, FIRE FUNDS, FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE, OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES, CITIES THAT DO IT THROUGH BOTH.

AND WE'LL GO OVER HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE.

THAT'S THE ROUTE YOU WANTED TO GO DOWN.

IT'S NOT AD VALOREM.

USED TO DIRECTLY FUND MUNICIPAL FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES.

IT'S UNDER THE STATE STATUTES.

THERE'S A PROCESS YOU GO THROUGH THAT.

GOT TO DO A STUDY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW DO WE CREATE A FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE DONE EVENLY ACROSS THE BOARD.

THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT FORMULAS THAT CITIES USE IN FLORIDA.

SOME USE FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

THEY DO IT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO IT'S SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IT'S EVENLY AND EQUALLY APPLIED TO ALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS OR RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS OR HAVE A FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE.

AND IT'S ALL THE SAME.

IT'S NOT REALLY BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT IT'S JUST A FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE.

AND YOU CAN USE THAT FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE.

YOU CAN TARGET THAT TO FUND THE ENTIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

YOU COULD TARGET THAT TO CAPITAL, YOU COULD TARGET IT TO JUST SOME OPERATIONAL PIECES.

THE ONE THING YOU CAN'T TARGET IT TO IS EMS, BECAUSE IT HAS TO HAVE A VALUE AND IT HAS TO BE REALLY FOR REAL PROPERTY.

AND SO EMS REALLY ISN'T FOR REAL PROPERTY.

THAT'S PEOPLE. THOSE ARE ILLNESSES AND INJURIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN USE IT, THOUGH, PARTICULARLY IN YOUR STARTUP COST, BECAUSE THOSE ARE HEAVY AND WHICH WE'LL GO OVER. SO BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND WHAT YOU CAN USE IT FOR.

DEBT SERVICE IS A BIG ONE THAT A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES WILL USE THAT FOR.

SO, AGAIN, WE WERE ASKED, WELL, IF WE WANT TO DO OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHAT WOULD WE DO? WELL, THE ONE THING WE WON'T DO AND WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IS A SERVICE LEVEL THAT WAS ANYTHING LESS THAN WHAT YOU HAVE NOW, BECAUSE WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.

WE RODE THIS TOWN, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.

WE'VE GOT ALL THE BUILDING INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE TOWN, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

THE BUILDING RISK REALLY, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GO AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT, WELL, HOW DO WE DEPLOY AND STAFF A FIRE DEPARTMENT.

LET'S JUST START THERE. JUST THE FIRE PIECE.

THAT REALLY IS YOUR BUILDING RISK AND OTHER RISK.

IF YOU WERE IN LIKE UNINCORPORATED AREA AND YOU HAD LIKE A LOT OF WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE, THEN YOU WOULD SAY THAT'S A BIG RISK, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO STAFF AND DEPLOY CERTAIN TYPES OF APPARATUS APPROPRIATELY FOR THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT HERE.

YOU ARE SORT OF SUBURBANIZED HERE.

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BUT SOME PEOPLE LIKE ME JUST TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE SORT OF SUBURBANIZED, RIGHT? GOT A LOT OF ASPHALT.

BUT WHAT YOU DO HAVE HERE IS YOU GOT A LOT OF WHAT WE CALL VERTICAL DENSITY.

YOU BUILD UP A LOT HERE.

AND SO WHEN YOU GET INTO THREE, FOUR, FIVE STORY RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S VERTICAL DENSITY.

THAT'S A RISK, BECOMES A LIFE SAFETY RISK.

SO YOU STAFF AND DEPLOY FIRE AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT ARE RISK.

SO A COMMUNITY RISK ASSESSMENT WHICH WE'RE DOING WILL DRIVE YOU TO THAT.

BUT WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THE BUILDINGS AND THE BUILDING RISK IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THAT.

SO WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH IS THREE ENGINES, ALS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALS ENGINES NOW, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT, MEANING BEFORE THE MEDICS GET THERE, THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT THE MEDIC CAN DO OTHER THAN TRANSPORT.

SO THREE ALS ENGINES.

WE'RE PROPOSING FOUR PERSON STAFFING ON THOSE.

WE BUDGETED WITH A MINIMUM OF THREE DAILY.

SO THAT GIVES YOU THREE EXTRA PEOPLE EVERY DAY TO FILL VACANT SPOTS THAT ARE CREATED THROUGH SCHEDULED OR UNSCHEDULED LEAVE OR JUST A VACANCY BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS DECIDED TO MOVE ON.

ONE ALS LADDER WITH FOUR PERSON STAFFING.

AND OUR OBSERVATION AND OUR RISK ASSESSMENT, ALREADY, PRELIMINARILY, WE PROPOSE A LADDER IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER . AT FOUR PERSON STAFFING, NOT THE MINIMUM OF THREE, BECAUSE THAT GIVES YOU SURGE CAPACITY ON CERTAIN CALLS.

THAT'S TWO TWO-PERSON CREWS, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS, BUT IN FIRE WE OPERATE IN CREWS.

WE DON'T OPERATE BY OURSELVES.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POLICE AND FIRE, IS POLICE CAN BE ONE PERSON, RIGHT, INVESTIGATING AN ACCIDENT OR INVESTIGATING A LOWER LEVEL CRIME, SO TO SPEAK, OR THEY ARRIVE FIRST ON ANY TYPE OF CRIME.

FIRE IS ABOUT PEOPLE.

IT'S ABOUT WHAT WE CALL AN EFFECTIVE RESPONSE FORCE, AND IT'S ABOUT GETTING CERTAIN NUMBERS OF PEOPLE TO THE SCENE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUILDING RISK OR OTHER TYPES OF RISK.

AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENTS ON THE INTERSTATE TAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF APPARATUS.

SO, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT AT FOUR STAFFING, THREE ALS AMBULANCES USING THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE MODEL, SAME TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, SAME TYPE OF AMBULANCE, THREE PERSON STAFFING, THREE MEDICS WITH A LIEUTENANT ON THERE, AN OFFICER JUST LIKE THEY WROTE IT.

AND THAT TYPE OF SYSTEM BUILDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESILIENCY INTO YOUR RESPONSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T DISPATCH AN ENGINE AND AN AMBULANCE ON EVERY CALL, RIGHT.

THROUGH PRIORITY MEDICAL DISPATCHING YOU'RE ABLE TO ONLY SEND THE MEDIC UNIT ON MOST CALLS, WHICH LEAVES THE ENGINES BACK AND AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO ANY OTHER CALL THAT MAY COME UP, WHICH IS WHY YOU LEAVE THEM AT ALS, THE ENGINES, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE AMBULANCE TIED UP, THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT ENGINE GETS THERE AND THEY CAN PERFORM THE SAME AS THE AMBULANCE AGAIN, THEY JUST DON'T DO THE TRANSPORT.

SO WE'VE PROPOSED THE SAME MODEL.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD POTENTIALLY TWO FIRE STATIONS.

MR. REYNOLDS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE WENT THROUGH THE DEED, THE LAND DEED FOR THE ABACOA STATION.

AND IN THAT DEED, IF THE COUNTY DOES NOT PROVIDE THE SERVICE ANY MORE THEN IT REVERTS BACK TO THE TOWN. SO THAT POTENTIALLY COULD STILL BE USED.

BUT YOU MAY HAVE TO BUILD TWO OTHER STATIONS.

AND WE HAVE BUDGETED ONE OF THOSE TO HOUSE PERHAPS FIRE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL.

SO THERE'S A DIFFERENT COST ON ONE THEN THE OTHER'S GOT MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO PUT THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE FIRE CHIEF STAFF INTO OFFICES SOMEPLACE. THEIR STARTUP COSTS IN ALL OF THIS, RIGHT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE TIME CAPITAL EQUIPMENT ASIDE FROM APPARATUS.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT GOES INTO A FIRE DEPARTMENT AND AN EMS DEPARTMENT, CARDIAC MONITOR, SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS, ALL OF THAT, CAPITAL EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES, STAFF AND OPERATIONAL, RIGHT.

STAFF NEEDS SOME VEHICLES AS WELL, FACILITIES, ETC.

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IT'LL COST YOU YOUR FIRST FULL YEAR.

YOUR FIRST FULL YEAR.

SO YOUR FIRST OCTOBER 1 TO SEPTEMBER 30, WE'VE COSTED THAT.

WE ARE GOING TO COST AS WELL, IT IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, IS AS YOU, IF YOU SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, CAN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

YOU'VE GOT TO BUY APPARATUS, YOU'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE PERHAPS TWO FACILITIES WILL GO.

WE'VE GOT A LISTING OF LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED MAPPING THAT TO SEE WHAT THE RESPONSE PATTERNS WOULD AND SHOULD BE.

BUT YOU'VE GOT TO HIRE SOME PEOPLE FIRST, RIGHT? BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOT TO START TO PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER.

AND RIGHT NOW I CAN TELL YOU YOU'RE 24 MONTHS, SOMETIMES 30.

RIGHT? DEPENDS ON THE MANUFACTURER, ON FIRE APPARATUS.

IT'S JUST WHAT THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS TODAY.

AND IT'S, AND I WAS TALKING TO CHIEF PILAND THIS THIS MORNING ABOUT IT.

IN FACT, THERE'S JUST CERTAIN COMPONENTS AND PARTS, JUST THE PUMPS, THAT THEY CAN'T, THESE MANUFACTURERS CANNOT GET.

AND THEY'RE JUST WAITING AND WAITING SO THEY HAVE A BACKLOG.

RIGHT. SO ALL OF THAT GOES IN TO BUILDING FIRE APPARATUS.

HOWEVER, WE WOULD ESTIMATE THAT AT ABOUT THE 36 MONTH MARK, YOU COULD HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE TO START TURNING THE FIRST WHEEL.

SO RECURRING COSTS, OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE, REPLACEMENT, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO OCCUR, IF YOU DO THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO OCCUR WHILE YOU'RE STILL IN CONTRACT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NO OTHER WAY TO DO IT.

YOU CAN'T SAY, CHIEF KENNEDY YOU DON'T DO IT ANYMORE, WE'RE GOING TO START DOING IT, UNLESS YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH MR. REYNOLDS ON THAT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME POINT YOU BEGIN TO HIRE PEOPLE, YOU BEGIN TO HIRE THE PEOPLE FOR YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND SO YOU WILL HAVE THEM ON POTENTIALLY SIX MONTHS AHEAD OF THE TURNAROUND DATE.

SO YOU ALREADY WILL HAVE STARTED TO BUDGET FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE ANOTHER BUDGET THAT SAYS ALONG THE WAY, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AND THAT WILL BE IN THE TECHNICAL REPORT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A SPREAD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE YOU A SPREAD.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE IN FACT, I'M VERY SURE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ABOUT THE 90TH OR 95TH PERCENTILE ON WHAT THE RECURRING COST WILL BE.

A LOT OF THAT IS, HOWEVER, GOING TO DEPEND ON WHEN YOU DECIDE AND IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO DO THIS, WHEN IT STARTS, BECAUSE COSTS STILL ARE ESCALATING NOW, EVERY YEAR, SOMETIMES IT'S EVERY SIX MONTHS.

JUST WITH FIRE APPARATUS, IT'S 3% MORE, OR 4% MORE.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR RECURRING COSTS FOR A 93 PERSON DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS FIRE AND EMS TOGETHER, THAT'S YOUR FIRE CHIEF, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF, YOU'VE GOT STAFF OFFICERS, YOU'VE GOT A FIRE MARSHAL, INSPECTORS, PLANNERS, REVIEW PEOPLE, YOU'VE GOT A QUARTERMASTER, YOU'VE GOT BATTALION, THREE BATTALION CHIEFS, RIGHT.

FOR FIELD YOU'VE GOT CAPTAINS, LIEUTENANTS, FIREFIGHTER, PARAMEDICS, YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THAT.

SO ALL OF IT HAS COME TO 93 PEOPLE BETWEEN 16 AND $19 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

NOW, I GAVE YOU THAT SPREAD BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING THIS ON ASSUMPTIONS.

A LOT OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS ARE TODAY'S COST.

SO WE'VE GOT CONTINGENCY IN THERE DEPENDING ON IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO DO GO THIS ROUTE, WE'VE GOT TO BUILD SOME CONTINGENCY.

AND YES, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU IT'S 16 AND ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND THEN A YEAR FROM NOW, WELL, PRICES ARE GONE UP.

NOW IT'S $17 MILLION, SO IT'S 16 TO $19 MILLION AND 54 TO $57 MILLION ON YOUR STARTUP CAPITAL, BECAUSE

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AND THEN WHAT I WILL TELL YOU, THOUGH, WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THE NEXT INCREASE IN THAT.

SO THE COST THAT WE CAME UP WITH JUST FOR THE APPARATUS, WE'VE ALREADY ADDED 4% TO THAT.

SO, THEN YOU HAVE BUILDING COSTS AND BUILDING COSTS, AS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING A A TOWN HALL BEHIND YOU.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE COST DIFFERENCES ARE, CHANGE ORDERS ARE, BUT YOU'VE GOT CONTINGENCY IN THAT BUILDING.

SO WE'VE BUILT CONTINGENCY INTO THIS FOR THOSE REASONS.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS IT'S HAPPENED, BUT WE'RE PRETTY SURE ABOUT WHAT THE RECURRING ARE AND WHAT WITHIN THAT SPREAD THAT WE'VE TOLD YOU.

SO, JUST A RECAP THERE.

I WON'T GO OVER THE COST ANYMORE.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED IN THIS.

YOU'RE ADDING 93 PEOPLE.

SO WHEN YOU ADD 93 PEOPLE, THERE'S AN IMPACT ON THE INTERNAL SERVICES.

IT'S AN IMPACT ON YOUR HUMAN RESOURCES, FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

NEW JOB SPECS, 93 POTENTIAL CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE, OR ISSUES THAT COME INTO THE, TO THE TOWN.

YOUR IT DEMAND GOES UP BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE IT DEMANDS IN A FIRE AND EMS DEPARTMENT.

RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. YOU'VE GOT A SEPARATE ONE FOR FIRE AND YOU'VE GOT A SEPARATE ONE FOR EMS TRANSPORT.

YOU'VE GOT TRAINING IT, DIFFERENT SYSTEMS THAT GO INTO THAT.

THERE'S COMPUTERS EVERYWHERE, COMPUTERS IN THE FIRE TRUCKS AND IN THE EMS UNITS.

SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT.

SO THE IT DEMAND GOES UP.

YOU'VE GOT FACILITIES AND FLEET STUFF THAT BEGINS TO HAPPEN.

AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE, IF NOT TWO, MORE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS.

OKAY. SO JUST THINGS THAT COME WITH THIS.

AND SO YOU NEED TO JUST BE AWARE OF ALL OF IT, IF THIS IS A DECISION POINT FOR YOU.

SO, ANOTHER OPTION, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE FIRST TWO, IS YOU CAN POTENTIALLY JUST CONTRACT WITH A CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITY. IT CAN BE FOR THE ENTIRE FIRE EMS OPERATION, WHICH IS EVERYTHING.

YOU COULD DO WITH MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.

YOU COULD DO IT FOR A SINGLE SERVICE.

YOU COULD SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE JUST WANT TO DO THE FIRE PIECE.

BUT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THE EMS PIECE.

MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT WOULD DO THE EMS PIECE FOR US.

WHAT YOU GET WITH THIS IS SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL.

YOU'RE STILL VULNERABLE, RIGHT? YOU'RE STILL VULNERABLE TO WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST FROM YEAR TO YEAR? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU CREATE YOUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT IS YOU GET A REAL SENSE OF COMMUNITY WITH THAT.

AND YOU ALSO GET FROM THE DAIS AND FROM THE TOWN MANAGER SEAT, YOU GET A SENSE OF KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

AND YOU HAVE REALLY FROM THE DAIS, YOU HAVE FULL DECISION MAKING ON WHAT THAT BUDGET IS, BECAUSE IT GETS PRESENTED EVERY YEAR, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO TOWN MANAGERS BUDGET AND ALL THE OTHER DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU THAT FORM AND CREATE THIS TOWN BUDGET.

THAT'S YES OR NO.

OR IT'S YES ON 1-8 AND NO ON NINE AND TEN, AND WE'LL WORRY AND WE'LL WORK ON THAT NEXT YEAR OR WE'LL FIGURE CAN YOU COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ELSE? SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS.

YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT VULNERABLE TO MAYBE WHAT THE UNKNOWN IS.

SO, AND YOU MAY GET THAT WITH A CONTRACT WITH A CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITY AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT OUT TO YOU AS YOU MULL THROUGH THESE.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITIES ARE, RIGHT.

PALM BEACH GARDENS, TEQUESTA REALLY COME TO MIND, REALLY CONTIGUOUS.

YOU HAVE, NOT REALLY CONTIGUOUS, BUT DOWN TO NORTH PALM.

SO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY YOU CAN CONSIDER.

WE TALKED ABOUT DEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT, RIGHT? YOU CAN FORM THAT IN THE TOWN.

IF YOU SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO DO OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE WANT TO DO A DEPENDENT DISTRICT HERE IN THE TOWN.

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SO WHAT WILL COME UP ON THEIR TAX BILL WILL BE DEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT FIRE MILLAGE.

BUT YOU'RE SETTING THAT MILLAGE.

YOU CAN FORM A INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT.

YOU CAN'T FORM IT ON YOUR OWN.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE WILLING PARTNERS TO DO THAT.

SO YOU'RE CONTIGUOUS CITIES YOU KNOW MAY JUST SAY, HEY, WE HEARD A PRESENTATION, LET'S FORM AN INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT MIGHT.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AN OPTION.

BUT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A REAL PARTNERSHIP.

THAT TAKES A LOT OF COLLABORATION FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANGLES, WHICH I'LL COVER A FEW OF THOSE.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES, CHAPTER 191, INDEPENDENT FIRE CONTROL DISTRICT.

IT CAN BE JUST FIRE.

IT CAN BE FIRE AND EMS. AND YOU FUND IT THROUGH AN INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT MILLAGE RATE THAT IS SET BY A GOVERNING BOARD.

IT'S NOT SET BY YOU.

IT'S SET BY A GOVERNING BOARD.

AND WHOEVER IN THAT DISTRICT HAS THAT TAX ADDED TO THEIR TO THEIR TAX BILL.

SO, AGAIN, JUST WHAT IT CAN DO FOR YOU, THINGS YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

THERE ARE THE INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT [INAUDIBLE] CONSIDERS THE SAME THING.

YOU DO IT IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.

YOU STILL COME UNDER THE ORDINANCE, THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ORDINANCE.

YOU'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE COPCN PROCESS AND ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT THE COUNTY IS PROVIDING.

YOU'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO WANT THIS INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT TO PROVIDE, CORRECT.

THE THING ABOUT THE INDEPENDENT DISTRICT OR A REGIONALIZED FIRE DEPARTMENT.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

DO YOU JUST WANT TO PAY INTO IT OR DO YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN IT? BECAUSE PART OF AN INDEPENDENT DISTRICT OR PART OF A REGIONALIZED DISTRICT IS DO YOU HAVE ANY ASSETS HERE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE REGIONALIZED SYSTEM? NOT SO MUCH IN THE INDEPENDENT, BUT IF YOU SAY, HEY, WELL, IS THERE AN OPTION FIVE? CAN WE JUST HAVE A REGIONAL FIRE DEPARTMENT? YEAH, YOU CAN, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME SKIN IN THAT GAME.

RIGHT. OTHER THAN JUST PAYING FOR IT BECAUSE IF YOU JUST PAYING FOR IT AGAIN YOU'RE IN THE SORT OF VULNERABLE POSITION OF WHAT'S THE TAX RATE GOING TO BE.

CAN WE SUSTAIN THAT? SO COMMON TYPES OF SPECIAL DISTRICT GOVERNING BODIES, YOU KNOW THIS, THEY'RE ELECTED, RIGHT? YOU CAN JUST SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO FORM THIS AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ELECTED, RIGHT? SO PEOPLE RUN FOR OFFICE JUST LIKE YOU DO.

THEY'RE JUST RUNNING FOR THE INDEPENDENT FIRE CONTROL DISTRICT.

IT CAN BE IDENTICAL TO A SINGLE COUNTY OR A SINGLE MUNICIPALITY APPOINTED BY A SINGLE COUNTY OR SINGLE MUNICIPALITY, CAN BE MORE THAN ONE, WHICH TYPICALLY IS WHAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE FOUR OR FIVE CITIES IN THERE, EVERY CITY GETS SO MANY SEATS ON THIS BOARD.

THE GOVERNOR CAN DO IT.

THE GOVERNOR CAN HAVE A APPOINTMENT, AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS EITHER ELECTED OR APPOINTED BY THEIR GOVERNING BODIES.

THERE'S MANY, MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THAT IS SET UP.

YOU HAVE ONE JUST UP THE ROAD IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY.

THAT'S A FIRE DISTRICT UP THERE.

AND THEY HAVE A BOARD.

I THINK IT'S, THEIR BOARD IS ONE APPOINTED OFFICIAL, I THINK, BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS APPOINTED BY WHOEVER IS PARTICIPATING THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITIES.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO THAT.

REVENUES COULD BE NON AD VALOREM, RIGHT? THAT CAN BE A FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE, WHICH A LOT OF THEM DO.

IT COULD BE A IT COULD BE A MILLAGE RATE.

CAN'T EXCEED 3.75 MILLS, THOUGH.

THEY HAVE A CAP.

STATUTORILY. IT COULD BE USER FEES.

RIGHT. SO EMS IS PART OF THIS.

SO YOU CAN HAVE THE EMS GROUND TRANSPORT FEES, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN PAY FOR IT AND GRANTS ALSO.

THAT'S MY PRESENTATION, MAYOR.

WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL HAVE A SEAT AS YOU DISCUSS IT, SIR.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, CHIEF POZZO.

WE WILL GO BACK INTO THE NUMBERS AGAIN EARLIER, AS DISCUSSED.

WE HAVE RECEIVED AN UPDATED PROPOSAL FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE.

THESE ARE TO GO OVER SOME OF THE EARLIER SLIDES TO SHOW THE IMPACT OF THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION OR THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL GIVEN TO US BY PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE.

I WON'T BE LABOR ON THESE.

THAT SLIDE THERE, BUT I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO SHOW YOU CHIEF POZZO'S ICMA'S OPTION AND HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT RESIDENTS HERE IN JUPITER.

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WHAT I DO WANT TO SHOW IN THIS SLIDE IS THE MILLAGE RATE THAT WOULD BE ASSESSED ON A $550,000 HOME AND THE TAX BILL.

THERE IS SOME ASSUMPTION OF DEBT SERVICE, AS CHIEF POZZO DISCUSSED.

THAT'S BASED ON ABOUT $47 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT CHIEF POZZO SHOWED AND THE ACTUAL DEBT SERVICE.

WE'RE ASSUMING POSSIBLY THE USE OF A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE COLLECTION OF THAT DEBT SERVICE.

SO THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT WHICH IS AMBULATORY DRIVEN, WHICH HAS ICMA AS INDICATED, THAT HAS TO BE SEPARATED OUT AND PAID OFF WITH MILLAGE.

SO THERE'S A MIXTURE OF CASH ASSUMPTIONS THAT COULD BE USED FOR ANY KIND OF DEBT SERVICE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE LONG TERM DEBT SERVICE OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD.

BUT THE ANNUAL COST TO A RESIDENT BASED ON WHAT'S ICMA IS ESTIMATED WOULD RANGE FROM, THE TAX BILL WOULD RANGE FROM $768 TO $719 ANNUALLY FOR A $550,000 HOME VALUE.

NOW, AGAIN, WE WERE TRYING TO DO A COMPARISON TO THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL PROVIDED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY TO SHOW THE DECREASE OVER THEIR PROPOSAL, WHICH RANGED FROM $378 TO A REDUCTION OF JUST OVER $1,000 AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEARS AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE MILLAGE.

BUT WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL GO ON TO THE NEW PROPOSAL.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH THAT.

THAT AGAIN, AFTER THE AGENDA HAD BEEN PUBLISHED, THIS PRESENTATION HAD BEEN PRESENTED OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE CHIEF KENNEDY CAME TO VISIT WITH US AND PROVIDED US WITH A NEW PROPOSAL.

THAT DOESN'T ONLY JUST SPAN FIVE YEARS, BUT IT GOES OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD.

SOME OF THE COMPARISONS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION IS BASED ON THE FIVE YEARS.

ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS I'M GOING THROUGH THE SLIDES IS ANYTHING AFTER THE FIVE YEARS GOES OVER, GOES UP BY APPROXIMATELY 4%, JUST A LITTLE OVER 4% ANNUALLY. THE PROPOSALS PREVIOUSLY, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS BASED ON A MILLAGE BASED TO TRY TO RAMP UP TO THE COUNTY WIDE MILLAGE RATE, WHEREAS THE NEW PROPOSAL IS BUDGETARY BASED.

SO YOU'LL SEE A RANGE IN HERE OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

BOTH THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL AND THE NEW PROPOSAL OFFER NO ENHANCEMENTS TO THE CURRENT LEVELS OF SERVICES PROVIDED TO JUPITER, ALONG WITH NO REVENUE CREDITS.

I KNOW CHIEF POZZO TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE REVENUES THAT HELP OFFSET COSTS HERE IN THE TOWN.

ALL PAST MSTU AND OUR LOCAL AGREEMENTS WERE BASED ON THE ACTUAL COST.

I KNOW THE MAYOR POINTED THAT OUT.

IT'S AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS AND THE METHODOLOGY TO ACTUAL COST WITHIN THE TOWN, PROVIDED WITHIN THE TOWN, WHICH ARE AGAIN OFFSET BY REVENUES FROM EMS TRANSPORT BILLING.

SO WHAT WE DID DO IS WE DID UPDATE THIS SLIDE TO BE ABLE TO INDICATE HOW THE NEW PROPOSAL OVER THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. IF YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST CHART THAT WE SHOWED FROM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL TO THE RIGHT, THE BAR CHART WENT UP QUITE A BIT, WHEREAS THIS IS JUST GOING UP TO ABOUT $38 MILLION, ALMOST $39 MILLION.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE ASSOCIATED MILLAGES THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROPOSAL.

THE COUNTY'S NEW PROPOSAL WOULD INCREASE THE CURRENT JUPITER FY 23 FROM THE FY 23 MILLAGE OF 1.8713 TO 2.1197 BY FY 28, OR A 13% INCREASE OVER FIVE YEARS.

REVENUES FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY WOULD INCREASE BY $12.3 MILLION OVER THE LIFE OF THIS NEW PROPOSAL.

SO TO GIVE THE SUMMARY IMPACTS OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY NEW PROPOSAL JUST AS EARLIER, YOU CAN SEE THE FY 23 MILLAGE RATE OF 1.8713. THE TAX BILL OF $967.

IT WOULD GO UP TO JUST OVER $1000, $1,095 IN FY 28 BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FY 23 AND THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW IS $128 INCREASE OVER THE FIVE YEAR LIFE FROM FY 23 IN THE NEW PROPOSAL. SO AGAIN, TO COMPARE THESE IMPACTS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, THEY, AND THE TAX, AND THE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS FROM FY 24, IT WAS $1146 TO

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THE NEW PROPOSAL IS $983 TO JUST AGAIN OVER $1,000 A YEAR, BASED ON THE NEW PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO THE TOWN. AND THEN THOSE IMPACTS.

SO WE JUST WENT OVER THOSE IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, 176 TO 820 OVER THE FY 23 BUDGET.

IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

AND THEN THE NEW PROPOSAL, A $16 A YEAR IMPACT UP TO $128 IMPACT ANNUALLY.

SO TO JUST KIND OF BRING ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER, YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF NUMBERS TONIGHT.

JUST WANT TO KIND OF BRING THEM INTO ONE SLIDE.

WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COUNTY ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, THE NEW PROPOSAL, AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT'S BEEN THE ESTIMATES COMING IN FROM ICMA FOR OPERATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE IT HERE ON THIS SLIDE IN THE FIRST CHART.

THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS JUST OVER $33.8 MILLION WENT UP TO BETWEEN $60 AND $62 MILLION AT THE COUNTY WIDE MSTU.

AND THEN THE NEW COUNTY PROPOSAL AGAIN WAS DOLLAR BASED ON WHAT THE THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE SAYS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE IN JUPITER WENT FROM $29 MILLION TO JUST OVER $38 MILLION IN THE FIVE YEAR.

AND THEN IT WILL INCREMENTALLY GO UP AFTER THAT BY JUST OVER 4%.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THE ICMA ESTIMATE THAT CHIEF POZZO DISCUSSED JUST OPERATIONALLY, $16.9 MILLION TO JUST OVER $19 MILLION IN THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW, NOW. ONE THING TO REMEMBER THAT CHIEF POZZO AND WHEN HE GAVE OUT HIS ESTIMATE IS WE ARE ALSO FUNDING FOR FUTURE CAPITAL.

WE'RE PUTTING AWAY CAPITAL RESERVES IN THAT NUMBER.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

BUT THEN HOW DOES THAT ESTIMATED FIRE BUDGET IMPACT OVER FY 23? AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTY PROPOSAL.

THERE WAS OVER A $7 MILLION INCREASE OVER FY 23, UP TO A $36 MILLION INCREASE OVER 23.

BUT THE NEW PROPOSAL IS JUST OVER $3 MILLION, JUST OVER 12.3 OVER THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW, AND THEN INCREMENTALLY GOES UP BY FOUR, JUST OVER 4% A YEAR FOR THE TEN YEAR WINDOW.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A REDUCTION BASED ON THE ICMA ESTIMATE OF A $8.9 MILLION IN THE FIRST YEAR, RAMPING UP TO A SAVINGS OF JUST OVER $11 MILLION IN THE FIFTH YEAR.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST OPERATING.

THIS IS NOT CAPITAL.

THERE IS SOME CAPITAL RESERVES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET, BUT THERE IS A DEBT SERVICE ELEMENT IN THERE.

AND THEN JUST TO SHOW THE $550,000 HOMESTEAD PROPERTY SHOW THOSE IMPACTS.

SO WE WENT THROUGH THOSE SLIDES PREVIOUSLY.

AND THEN THE ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT OVER FY 23, YOU CAN SEE AN ACTUAL SAVINGS FROM THE ICMA, WHICH YOU CAN IMAGINE FROM A $16.9 MILLION TO A $19 MILLION, WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING $29 MILLION TO $38 MILLION, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SAVINGS THERE.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM COUNCIL, DIRECTION.

ONE OF THEM IS TO AS CHIEF POZZO ILLUSTRATED, IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY PROPOSAL, THE NEW PROPOSAL THAT THEY PROVIDED TO US RECENTLY.

OPTION TWO.

WE CAN FURTHER RESEARCH CREATING A TOWN OF JUPITER FIRE AND EMS DEPARTMENT.

OPTION THREE, CONTRACT FOR FIRE AND EMS SERVICES WITH CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITIES, OR SOME COMBINATION OF ONE OR BOTH SERVICES.

OPTION FOUR, WHICH IS TO CREATE A FIRE DISTRICT UNDER THE STATE STATUTE DEPENDENT OR INDEPENDENT, EITHER AS A STANDALONE OR WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

FOR OPTIONS TWO, THREE AND FOUR, THE THE TOWN WILL STILL NEED TO CONTINUE IN SOME FORM OF AGREEMENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY FOR SOME TIME PERIOD UNTIL, IF THOSE OPTIONS ARE SELECTED, SO WE COULD STAND ON OUR OWN.

SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

THERE ARE TWO DOCUMENTS.

ONE IS THE ACTUAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH DISCUSS COSTS, TALKS ABOUT LEVELS OF SERVICE.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE METHODS OF PROVIDING FIRE AND EMS. BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE MSTU.

THE MSTU ORDINANCE IS A DOCUMENT THAT IS A COMPANION DOCUMENT TO THE INTERLOCAL.

WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 15TH FOR CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OF THE MSTU INCLUSIONARY ORDINANCE.

ALL THAT DOCUMENT DOES IS NOTIFY THE COUNTY THAT WE WISH TO BE A PART OF THE JUPITER MSTU THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

THEN IT GIVES COUNCIL THE TIME TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT GOING IN THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

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ALSO, IF OPTIONS TWO, THREE AND FOUR ARE CONSIDERED, SCHEDULE DURING YOUR PLANNING SESSIONS IN EARLY 23 TO INCLUDE A COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION ON THE ALTERNATIVES.

SO IT DOES ALLOW FOR SOME TIME.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WILL NEED TO ACT ON RATHER QUICKLY.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE MSTU DOCUMENT, THE INCLUSIONARY DOCUMENT.

THAT ORDINANCE WILL COME AGAIN ON THE 15TH OF NOVEMBER.

SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

I'M SURE YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO FRAME NUMBER ONE BEFORE I EVEN GET ANY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THIS IS INCREDIBLE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. A LOT OF HARD WORK.

I'M GOING TO GIVE EACH OF MY COLLEAGUES A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND WILL MAKE COMMENTS.

BUT JUST TO FRAME IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, GREAT WORK.

IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT WE HAVE OPTIONS TO 21 AND ONE HALF PERCENT INCREASES EVERY YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHERS WERE EXPECTING, BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE US.

IT'S VERY EARLY TO BE MAKING DECISIONS.

AND I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. KITZEROW KICKED OFF IN GETTING THESE ALTERNATIVES VALUED.

AND I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CHOICE BUT TO CONTINUE THAT TO COME BACK.

I LOOKED AT ACTUALLY, AND MAYBE IT'S ALL JUST HOW YOU READ IT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION, I'LL CALL 1A OR MAYBE IT WAS FIVE, BECAUSE IN PARALLEL IS TO PURSUE AN ALTERNATIVE ACTUAL COST PLUS, YOU KNOW, TEN YEAR CONTRACT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY.

AND I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

THE CONCEPT, BECAUSE TO ME, AN ACTUAL COST IS THE FAIREST TO BOTH PARTIES.

AND SO BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A RISK WHEN IT'S ADJUSTED EVERY YEAR, AS IT'S BEEN FOR 15 YEARS, WE DON'T EITHER.

A LOT OF UNKNOWNS COULD HAPPEN.

I KNOW THEY SAID THEY WERE NO, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I HEARD THAT WHEN THEY CAME IN AND PRESENTED THE SECOND PROPOSAL THAT THEY WERE WAITING TO HEAR FROM US.

RIGHT. SO I AND I'M NOT INTENDING TO GET INTO THAT ON THE DAIS HERE BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE AGREE ON DIRECTION AND THEN TALK ONE ON ONE. BUT AGAIN, AN ACTUAL COST WITH SOME MARGIN, WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE TO THE COUNTY. SO THAT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

RIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT, BUT IT'S A CONCESSION, IF YOU WILL, TO NOT JUST STUBBORNLY SAY, NO, I WANT THE SAME CONTRACT WE HAD.

KIND OF OPEN TO THAT. BUT THE INTENT IS TO STILL GET, BRINGING IT TO BE MORE REASONABLE, IN LINE WITH WHAT ALTERNATIVES WE MIGHT HAVE.

I KNOW THAT MR. KITZEROW IS, WE'VE ALL PROBABLY HEARD, IS MEETING WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES.

CORRECT. SO REALLY ALL OF THIS IS PROCEEDING IN A WAY TO MAKE SURE WE'LL BE BETTER, MORE AND MORE INFORMED.

SO THEREFORE, IN THE DIRECTION, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN TO MAKING SOMETHING.

BUT TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE CONTINUE THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO BE VALUING THAT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION, WE GET A TIME CHANCE TO ABSORB THIS AND THE NEW INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE COMING OUT IN JANUARY.

AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED IT.

I DON'T SEE ANY ALTERNATIVE.

BUT AGAIN, TO TRY TO REACH BACK TO OUR TOWN MANAGER, BACK TO THE COUNTY, IF THERE'S TRULY AN INTEREST ON PALM BEACH COUNTY TO PURSUE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THEIR SECOND OFFER.

RIGHT. THAT'S JUST MY TAKE.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO EITHER ASK QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, WHAT HAVE YOU.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE WAS OUTSTANDING.

IF YOU'VE EVER HAD TO MAKE THAT CALL AND HAVE THEM COME TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW HOW OUTSTANDING THEY ARE.

AND SO THEY REALLY MEAN A LOT TO ME.

AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE US CONTINUE HAVE THAT SERVICE IN THE TOWN.

BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH MAYOR KURETSKI THAT THE PROPOSAL, THE INCREASES WERE SO GREAT THAT IT BUMPS UP AGAINST OUR COMMITMENT TO THE

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SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE, I FEEL, ANY OTHER CHOICE BUT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED.

I ALSO AGREE WITH MAYOR KURETSKI THAT, AND I WAS ALSO THINKING THAT PERHAPS 1A OR A FIVE, OPTION FIVE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF COUNTERPROPOSAL THAT WAS A MODIFICATION OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH WOULD BE A COST PLUS.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE COUNTY IS SAYING TO US, WELL, THAT'S GREAT, JUPITER YOU COVER YOUR COSTS, BUT WE REALLY NEED YOU TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE GREATER SYSTEM.

AND SO MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND TO ADD TO OUR CURRENT FORMULA SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A CONTRIBUTION, BUT ONE THAT FITS WITHIN OUR OUR BUDGET AND FITS WITHIN OUR COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

SO I'M KIND OF BASICALLY AGREEING WITH WHAT MAYOR KURETSKI SAID.

AND THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I'VE BEEN, WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I.

I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU CLEAR DIRECTIONS.

LIKE THIS IS A LOT TO DIGEST.

I WANT TO GET TOGETHER WITH STAFF AND THE TOWN MANAGER, AND, BUT I THINK JUST KIND OF KEEP MOVING DOWN THE ROAD.

YOU'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE'VE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS NOW, AND ALSO GREAT PRESENTATION BY THE STAFF AND ICMA, SO APPRECIATE IT.

SO JUST, I JUST KIND OF SAY LET'S KEEP MOVING THE BALL DOWN THE ROAD.

I NEED MORE INFORMATION.

SO, I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS [LAUGHTER].

AS A RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LOT TO DIGEST AND THIS SEEMS LIKE THE TIME TO TRY TO START TO DIGEST IT BECAUSE WE WILL BE GETTING A REPORT IN JANUARY, WHICH I LOOK FORWARD TO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS STARTING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE COUNTY, WATCH SOME OF THEIR MEETINGS, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE BENEFIT OF RESIDENTS. RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT, I REMEMBER THE COUNTY LOOKING AT THEIR BUDGET AND GOING THROUGH THAT.

DOES ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY HAVE ITS OWN MSTU IN PALM BEACH COUNTY? YES. YES.

THEY, I'M TRYING TO THINK IT WAS IT.

NO, NOT LIKE JUPITER.

THERE'S LIKE A. THERE'S A COUNTY MSTU AND WHEN THE COUNTY GOES THROUGH ITS BUDGET THERE'S THE COUNTY MSTU YOU AND THEN UNDER IT IS ALWAYS THE JUPITER MSTU.

WE'RE KIND OF SINGLED OUT IN A WAY.

AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY LOOK AT OURS AND WONDER WHY WE HAVE IT AND WHY IT'S NOT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS PAYING.

AND SO THAT WAS PART OF THE BACKGROUND ABOUT WHY THEY WERE COMING TO US WITH THE MILLAGE GETTING TO BE WHAT IT WOULD BE IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YES.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL GOALS OF THIS.

SO IN THE NEW PROPOSAL, IT WOULDN'T RESOLVE THAT FOR THE COUNTY.

IT WAS.

OK. SO I'M JUST, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S LEADING TO THIS? IT'S BEEN A BIT UNCLEAR.

AND THEN I JUST, LET'S SEE.

THE, SO FIRE IS RATED VERY WELL.

IT IS INCREDIBLY POPULAR HERE.

WE LOVE IT. I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW UP WITH THAT COMMENT AS WELL.

JUPITER HAS VERY HIGH RATINGS ACROSS THE CITIZEN SURVEY FOR POLICE AS WELL.

RIGHT. FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO, AND OUR POLICE FORCE HAS IT'S FUNDED WITH $26 MILLION.

IS THAT RIGHT, FOR OUR ENTIRE POLICE FORCE? SO IT'S JUST HARD TO GET FROM, YOU KNOW, IN 2023, WE'VE GOT $26 MILLION, A LITTLE UNDER $26 MILLION FOR FIRE. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS VERY HARD, OVER $60 MILLION.

I START TO WONDER WHAT'S GOLD PLATED AT SOME POINT.

BUT THIS NEW ONE IS ABSOLUTELY MORE REASONABLE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GOALS, THE UNDERLYING GOALS ARE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AT ACTUAL COST.

WE'RE STILL NO, THERE ARE NO REVENUE CREDITS WITH THE NEW MODEL.

IS THAT RIGHT, WITH THIS NEW PROPOSAL? CORRECT. OK.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY WILL GO OR HOW THAT WILL BE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE NEW PROPOSAL? WE'VE GOT TO ASSUME AT THIS POINT THAT THOSE REVENUES WILL THEN BE USED TO OFFSET GENERAL OPERATIONS FOR THE COUNTYWIDE MSTU.

OK. AND THERE ARE NO NEW SERVICES WITH THIS.

THERE ARE NO NEW SERVICES.

AND WHILE WE'VE GOT 38, A LITTLE OVER $38 MILLION FOR 2028, IT'S A TEN YEAR AGREEMENT.

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WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP.

YES. FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.

BUT JUST OVER JUST OVER 4% A YEAR AFTER THE FIFTH YEAR.

YES. OKAY. SO ANOTHER THING I HAD HEARD, YOU KNOW, FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, THAT ACTUAL COST IS WE PAY FOR WHAT WE USE IN JUPITER.

IS THAT RIGHT? SO.

AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET BASED ON THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE HAVE.

YES. AND BETWEEN 2022 AND 2023, WE'VE GOT THIS INCREASE IN MILLAGE.

DOES THAT ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING, FOR INFLATION, FOR LIABILITY, FOR INSURANCE? THERE IS AN ALLOCATION THAT COMES OVER LIKE CHIEF POZZO TALKED ABOUT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AND THOSE ANCILLARY COSTS FOR INSURANCE.

THOSE ARE CONSIDERED.

YES. AND EVEN OUTSIDE OF JUPITER, IF THERE'S ANY APPARATUS OR ANYTHING THAT'S OF BENEFIT TO THE TOWN, WE ARE PAYING OUR FAIR SHARE? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

WE WENT THROUGH THE MODEL WITH MY COUNTERPART OVER THE SUMMER TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL BUDGET AND THE ACTUAL PROCESS.

AND SPEAKING WITH CHIEF KENNEDY AND WE SAW IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT THERE WAS A LADDER TRUCK THAT WAS PURCHASED BY THE COUNTY.

A PORTION OF THAT, AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, FROM LOOKING AT THE MODEL, THERE IS SOME ALLOCATION OF COST RELATING TO THAT, THAT BECAUSE JUPITER HONESTLY, WE BENEFIT FROM THAT APPARATUS BEING AVAILABLE TO US THROUGH THAT THEY CAN COME INTO JUPITER AND SERVICE THE RESIDENTS HERE.

SO THERE IS THOSE ALLOCATION OF PROPORTIONAL COSTS.

OK. SO I THINK WHAT WAS HARD FOR ME IN CONCEPTUALIZING THIS IS THE LOGIC GOING IN IS WE ONLY PAY FOR WHAT WE USE.

WE PAY OUR FAIR SHARE AND WHAT WE USE.

SO ANYTHING ON TOP OF THAT IS WE'RE PAYING FOR WHAT WE DON'T USE.

LIKE THAT ALWAYS KIND OF WAS A STRUGGLE FOR ME AND STILL IS.

I UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE COUNTY WIDE PERSPECTIVE, BUT IF WE'RE PAYING FOR LADDER TRUCKS IN WEST PALM BEACH, I THINK WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS COUNTY RESOURCES.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO TEASE THAT OUT IN MY OWN HEAD.

AND I KNOW THAT IT'S VERY EARLY AND THIS IS A VERY LONG PROCESS.

BUT JUST SO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHERE WHERE I'M AT AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE AND FOR RESIDENTS AS WELL.

ANOTHER CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, WITH LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHENEVER THERE'S A TRANSITION, TO THINK ABOUT A TRANSITION TO DOING ANOTHER OPTION, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE CREDIT OF OUR PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, THEY RECENTLY GOT AN ISO RATING OF ONE.

NOW THAT IS FOR, IT'S A HUGE THING, THAT IT'S TOP 1% NATIONALLY.

I THINK 47 DIFFERENT ENTITIES HAVE IT IN FLORIDA.

SO IT'S A BIT MORE, A LITTLE MORE COMMON IN FLORIDA.

BUT STILL, PALM BEACH HAS IT.

DEL RAY, I THINK ISO ONE IS THAT.

I'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS.

I'M GOING OFF, BUT A NUMBER OF ENTITIES HAVE ISO ONE AND A COUPLE OF MUNICIPALITIES IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.

SO IS THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT GOES INTO AN ISO RATING OR WHAT IS BEING ACCREDITED? IS THERE A HOPE THAT JUPITER, IF IT EVER DID START ITS OWN, COULD GET THAT TO THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE? WHAT GOES INTO THAT? CERTAINLY.

THERE'S THREE COMPONENTS: EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION.

SO WHEREVER YOUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER IS GRADED.

SO THAT'S A PORTION OF THE OVERALL.

FIRE DEPARTMENT GETS A SCORING AND A FIRE DEPARTMENT IS DEPLOYMENT ANALYSIS, HOW YOU STAFF, TRAINING, COMMUNITY, RISK REDUCTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS GO INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RATING.

HOW MANY ENGINES YOU HAVE FOR THE AREA YOU HAVE, WHAT THEY COVER.

YOU KNOW, AN ENGINE IS EVERY 1.5 MILES ON BUILT UPON LAND.

LADDER COMPANIES ARE EVERY 2.5 MILES OF BUILT UPON LAND.

AND SO HOW YOU, DO YOU HAVE THAT TYPE OF APPARATUS AND ARE YOU DEPLOYING THAT TYPE OF APPARATUS.

THEN YOUR WATER SYSTEM.

IF YOU ARE COMPLETELY HYDRATED.

RIGHT. HAVE HYDRANTS EVERYWHERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RURAL WATER SYSTEMS OR RURAL WATER SUPPLIES.

SO YOU HAVE HYDRANTS HERE.

AND AS LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN THAT, THEY'RE INSPECTED AND THEY'RE FLOWED AND THEY GIVE THE GALLONS PER MINUTE THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE TYPE OF BUILDINGS YOU HAVE, THEN ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT'S A BENEFIT POTENTIALLY TO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES.

BUT DO ALL INSURANCE? NO, THEY DON'T TAKE IT.

NO, THEY DON'T. NOT EVERY INSURANCE COMPANY OR PROVIDER CONSIDERS THE ISO RATING.

SOME HAVE THEIR OWN RATING SYSTEM THAT THEY WOULD APPLY WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRE COMPONENT.

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THE BIGGER PIECE, YOU KNOW, FOR COASTAL COMMUNITIES IS TROPICAL SYSTEMS. THAT'S A HUGE PIECE THAT GOES INTO IT AS WELL.

SO IT IS A COMPONENT, BUT NOT ONE THAT EVERY INSURANCE COMPANY USES.

EVERY INSURANCE COMPANY, THOUGH, LOOKS AT COASTAL COMMUNITIES.

AND HOW DOES THAT DIFFER FROM SOME OF THESE OTHER, I HAD READ, I LOOKED AT I THINK HIGHLAND BEACH HAD A FIRE STUDY DONE NOT TOO LONG AGO.

THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE NFPA 1710.

YES, MA'AM. OK.

OR THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY EXCELLENCE.

THESE ARE OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE STANDARDS FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION.

AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THOSE ARE, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM IS? NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION, NFPA.

THERE IS A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE, CHIEF KITZEROW [LAUGHTER] IN POLICE AND FIRE.

FIRE HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NATIONALIZED STANDARDS AND IT'S EVERYTHING FROM NFPA 1, WHICH IS THE LIFE SAFETY CODE THAT MANY COMMUNITIES OR STATES ADOPT AS THEIR FIRE PREVENTION CODE TO TURN OUT GEAR, UNIFORMS, APPARATUS, STAFFING, DEPLOYMENT, HEALTH AND SAFETY.

THOSE ARE THE BIGGER ONES THAT YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT, OK.

THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT IN OUR TECHNICAL REPORT.

THE NFPA 1710 STANDARD IS STAFFING AND DEPLOYMENT OF CAREER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET INTO HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY RECOMMEND, HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS THEY RECOMMEND TO BE ON ENGINE COMPANIES AND LADDER COMPANIES.

WHAT AN EFFECTIVE RESPONSE FORCE IS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF BUILDINGS.

SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, 2000 SQUARE FOOT, NO BASEMENT.

THAT'S SORT OF THE BENCHMARK.

APARTMENT AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO RESPOND IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

HIGH RISES, THOSE TYPES OF STRUCTURES.

SO WE'LL TALK TO ALL OF THOSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME OR ALL OF THAT HERE.

AND THEN WHAT THE STAFFING COMPLEMENT IS FOR THAT.

AS AN EXAMPLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS 17 FIREFIGHTERS.

ONE OF THOSE IS A COMMAND OFFICER AND THE REST OF IT MAKE UP ENGINES AND A LADDER COMPANY THAT RESPONDS.

AND ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

GOES ANOTHER PIECE THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THAT, THAT YOU'LL READ ABOUT IN THE TECHNICAL REPORT, IF YOU WANT TO GET A LITTLE BIT INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT, IT'S CALLED CRITICAL TASKING.

EVERYTHING ON THE FIRE GROUND IS A CRITICAL TASK.

AND CRITICAL TASKING IN THE FIRE SERVICE HAS TO BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY, NOT IN SUCCESSION.

MEANING WHEN YOU PULL UP ON A JUST SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING THAT YOU HAVE SMOKE SHOWING.

RIGHT. SO TWO PEOPLE STRETCH A LINE, A HOSE LINE TO THE FRONT DOOR.

IF YOU NEED TO VENTILATE THAT STRUCTURE, YOU WANT TO VENTILATE THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY AS THEY'RE MOVING IN TO ATTACK THE FIRE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEARCH AND RESCUE GOING ON BY ANOTHER TEAM OF FIREFIGHTERS AS THE FIRST TEAM IS STRETCHING A LINE, THE OTHER TEAM IS DOING VENTILATION.

SOMEBODY'S STANDING IN THE STREET IN COMMAND.

THERE'S ANOTHER TEAM OUTSIDE THAT'S THERE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE FIREFIGHTERS INSIDE.

YOU HAVE SEARCH. ALL THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON ON THE FIRE GROUND.

SO IT TAKES A COMPLEMENT OF PEOPLE.

AS I WAS JUST SAYING EARLIER, POLICE HAS A LOT OF ONESIES.

OK. SINGLE UNIT RESPONSE WITH A BACKUP.

FIRE DEPARTMENT IS MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT.

HEAVY APPARATUS, THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE ON THE UNITS AS THEY RESPOND.

NFPA STANDARD IS FOUR PERSON STAFFING FOR EVERY FIRE SUPPRESSION UNIT ENGINES AND LADDERS.

OK. SO WE HAVE BUILT THREE ON YOUR ENGINES AND FOUR ON THE LADDER.

FOUR, FOR, WHAT THEY CALL FOUR O STAFFING, OR FOR STAFFING, IS A GOAL FOR A LOT OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

NOT A LOT OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS GET THERE.

AND SO, AND I APPRECIATE THE APPROACH AND POTENTIALLY A LEVEL OF SERVICE IF THE TOWN WERE TO CREATE ITS OWN LINE TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. BECAUSE I REMEMBER IN THE PAST, IN LIKE THE 1990S WHEN THIS WAS PROPOSED BEFORE THERE WAS, THERE WAS THAT SERIOUS CONCERN BECAUSE THERE WAS NO LADDER TRUCK PROPOSED.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF RESOURCES TO BE THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED.

THAT COULD HAVE BEEN CONCERNING.

SO THIS PROPOSAL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAT WAY.

JUST WITH INFLATION, WITH LABOR ISSUES, WITH THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN, THIS IS NOT GOOD TIMING, SURELY.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW DIFFICULT YOU THINK IT WOULD BE TO CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE IN THAT, IN THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT, JUST HIRING

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THE WAY WE SET THE BUDGET UP ON HOW WE GOT TO THE RECURRING COSTS AND THE BUDGETARY COSTS IS THE MID RANGE.

WE TOOK THE PALM BEACH GARDENS, FULL DISCLOSURE, WE TOOK THE PALM BEACH GARDENS LABOR CONTRACT AND WE WORKED OFF THAT AND THEN WE WORKED WITH THE TOWN ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION. SO ACTUALLY WE TOOK THE POLICE CHIEF'S SALARY AND WE TOOK SOME ADMINISTRATIVE SALARIES AND SO WE WENT TO THE MID LINE ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE.

SO THE MID RANGE, WE'RE NOT STARTING AT THE BOTTOM BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE.

SO, TO ATTRACT PEOPLE, RIGHT, TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

JUPITER FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

THE FIRST THING IS THIS IS AN APPEALABLE PLACE TO WORK.

IT'S AN APPEALABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

IT'S AN APPEALABLE PLACE TO SERVE A COMMUNITY.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S YOUR FIRST SELLING POINT.

THE SECOND PIECE IS THERE'S YOU'VE GOT COUNTIES AND CITY FIRE DEPARTMENTS ALL AROUND HERE THAT HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCED PEOPLE.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WORKING IN A BIG FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY LIKE THE SMALLER TYPE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

OK. SO IT'S AN ATTRACTION FOR THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN FIRE DEPARTMENTS ALL AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

WHERE WOULD YOU STAY IN SOUTH FLORIDA? YOU GOT A LOT OF FIRE DEPARTMENTS HERE.

SO YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE ASPIRING TO MOVE UP AND THEY MAY BE IN A BIG AGENCY AND THEY CAN'T GET THERE OR A SMALLER AGENCY AND THEY CAN'T GET UP.

BUT THEY'RE QUALIFIED, EXPERIENCED PEOPLE THAT MAY LOOK OVER HERE AND SAY, I'M GOING TO BE A BATTALION CHIEF IN JUPITER.

I COULD BE A CAPTAIN OR A LIEUTENANT IN JUPITER.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT TO BE A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC IN JUPITER.

I WANT TO WORK IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.

I WANT TO WORK FOR THE TOWN OF JUPITER, RIGHT? YEAH. BEAUTIFUL TOWN.

YOU DROVE ALL AROUND IT.

SO IS THERE A PROBLEM RECRUITING PARAMEDICS TODAY? YES. YOU CAN GOOGLE PROBLEMS HIRING PARAMEDICS, AND EVERYBODY WILL POP UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE.

THERE HAS TO BE A REASON WHY THEY COME HERE.

OK. AND THERE MAY BE SOME VERY GOOD EMT OUT THERE THAT HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN LEVEL, THAT DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GET TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A LARGER AGENCY OR THEY'RE IN A SMALL AGENCY AND THEY JUST, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO SEND THEM.

SO IN THAT INTERVENING PERIOD WHERE YOU'RE HIRING PEOPLE, YOU POTENTIALLY CAN HIRE THEM AND GET THEM INTO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL.

OK. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPTION.

WE'VE THOUGHT THROUGH ALL OF THAT, BECAUSE WE KNEW THOSE QUESTIONS WOULD COME UP.

WE DON'T FEEL, AND I HAVE HAD TO GO IN AND HAVE TO BUILD A FIRE DEPARTMENT, OK, IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, TRANSITIONING FROM MOSTLY VOLUNTEER TO CAREER.

AND SO FACED WITH THE SAME THING.

BUT IT WAS AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO WORK, AND WE COULD OFFER COMPETITIVE SALARIES.

AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM HIRING PEOPLE.

UNDERSTOOD. I CERTAINLY THINK JUPITER IS A GREAT PLACE TO WORK.

SO JUST IF, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PULL UP THE PICTURE OF THE MAP WITH WHERE THE STATIONS ARE? SURE. SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO HELP ME.

JUST FOR THE VISUAL [LAUGHTER].

I FIND THAT TO BE VERY HELPFUL.

IT'S THE ONLY SLIDE WITHOUT NUMBERS ON IT.

NO. WELL, A COUPLE NUMBERS.

I THINK IT WAS. I THINK WE JUST PASSED IT.

OKAY. SORRY.

YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT THE ONE WITH ALL THE.

WITH THE CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITIES.

BECAUSE THAT WAS ANOTHER OPTION.

LET ME FLIP THROUGH HERE A LITTLE BIT.

THIS ONE. YEAH. SO, SAY YOU'RE IN SONOMA ISLES, WHICH IS WEST OF THE TURNPIKE AND THE NORTHERN PART OF JUPITER.

AND WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THESE STATIONS.

I KNOW ABACOA WOULD TRANSFER OVER, BUT THERE WOULD BE A QUESTION OF WHERE TWO OTHERS WOULD BE.

BUT WITH CONTIGUOUS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL ALTOGETHER.

BUT SAY WE WERE TO WORK WITH A CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITY ON EMS SERVICES, HOW WOULD WE ENSURE RESPONSE TIMES? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WITH CONTIGUOUS, WITH THOSE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, YOU START TO THINK ABOUT DISTANCE AND NOT.

OK. HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF YOU CAN'T, IT'D BE THE SAME YOU'RE DOING WITH THE COUNTY.

IF YOU SAID, ARE YOU SAYING, HEY, WE WON'T DO FIRE AND MAYBE WE JUST DO THE EMS, LEAVE THE EMS PIECE TO SOMEBODY ELSE, A CONTIGUOUS MUNICIPALITY, THEY WOULD STAFF IN YOUR TOWN.

OKAY. YEAH, THEY WOULD STAFF IN THE TOWN JUST AS THE COUNTY DOES TODAY.

[01:55:05]

SO. I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR MY COMMENTS, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE CONCERNS.

ONE CONCERN WOULD BE, OR AN OPPORTUNITY POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY OPTIONS.

THIS IS SO EARLY. MY MIND IS SPINNING, ALL THE TECHNICAL DETAILS AND I'M GRATEFUL WE HAVE THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT JUST COST, BUT I THINK ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO REALLY LOOK AT, TO HAVE SOME KIND OF LOCAL CONTROL AND IN REMOVING POTENTIALLY A LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY.

IF WE DID THAT, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY POTENTIALLY INTO THE BUDGET OF HOW THE FIRE SERVICE WORKS EACH YEAR.

I DON'T, AND IT WOULD REMOVE UNCERTAINTY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD KNOW WHAT'S COMING OR BE ABLE TO CONSIDER IT AS A TOWN.

IT'S HARD.

I DO LIKE THE COST PLUS MODEL, THE OPTION FIVE AS THE MAYOR SAID, WITH ACTUAL COST BECAUSE THAT MODEL HAS SERVED US WELL FOR SO LONG WITH SOME MARGIN.

THAT MAKES SOME SENSE TO ME.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD, I WOULD WANT TO KIND OF MAINTAIN SOME LEVEL OF THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF RESIDENTS. AND WITH THE COST, AGAIN, I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GOALS ARE.

IF WE DO PAY, YOU KNOW, OUR FAIR SHARE, WITH INFLATION, WITH LADDER TRUCKS IN WEST PALM BEACH, WITH ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

THIS ISN'T SOLVING THE COUNTY'S PROBLEM WITH THE SEPARATE MSTU AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

IT'S NOT SOLVING THAT.

THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO SOLVE IN THE BEGINNING.

BUT $60 MILLION FOR A FIRE DEPARTMENT WHEN WE HAVE 26 FOR POLICE IS A BIG JUMP.

IT'S SHOCKING.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS.

IT WAS LIKE 15, $20, 30, $40.

SO $820 IN THE FIRST PROPOSAL IS A BIG DEPARTURE FROM THAT.

125, MORE REASONABLE.

BUT THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE COUNTY'S PROBLEM AND IT DOESN'T HELP US EXPLAIN TO OUR RESIDENTS WHERE THAT MONEY'S GOING AND HOW IT'S GOING . WITH THE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, OPTION FOUR.

WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY.

I HADN'T CONSIDERED IT TOO MUCH.

THAT ONE I WOULDN'T BE TOO SUPPORTIVE OF RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANT TO HEAR MORE FROM MY COLLEAGUES NOW.

THERE'S JUST, IT SEEMS VERY COMPLEX WITH ELECTIONS AND NEW PEOPLE, IT'S HARD FOR RESIDENTS.

OUR BALLOTS NOW, WE'RE VOTING NOW.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHAT, TEN PAGES LONG WORTH OF QUESTIONS AND POSITIONS.

AND IT CAN BE HARD TO SORT OUT WHO'S DOING WHAT AND WHAT IT'S FOR.

AND WITH BOARDS, IT'S JUST A LOT OF COMPLEXITY AND UNCERTAINTY AROUND THAT.

SO I THINK WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE BUT TO PURSUE OTHER OPTIONS GIVEN THE COST.

AND JUST HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THIS TO RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY IN TIMES LIKE THESE, WHERE, I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A RECESSION, WE WERE DEALING WITH INFLATION.

RESIDENTS ARE UNDER INCREDIBLE STRESS RIGHT NOW.

AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TIMING AND WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THEM.

SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF MY THOUGHTS AND SOME OF MY QUESTIONS.

I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MANY MORE, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AS WE GO.

BUT THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME ANSWER, START TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE.

SO, SCOTT, THE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE SLIDE, I GUESS, OR PAGE 31, YOU HAVE THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DEBT SERVICE ESTIMATE OF $178. THAT WOULD BE TO COVER CAPITAL COSTS, CAPITAL STARTUP COSTS.

THAT'S THAT'S THE SLIDE THAT CHIEF POZZO WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THAT COULD BE OVER $52 MILLION, USING THE MODEL OF THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, WHERE IT'S ONLY THE FIRE PIECE, APPROXIMATELY $47 MILLION.

OKAY. SO YOU'VE GOT TO ADD TO THAT.

IF THE PROPOSAL WAS TO, YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO DO A FIRE ASSESSMENT FEE TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES.

AND WHAT WAS THE ESTIMATE PER YEAR ON THAT? FOR, IN TOTAL, IT WAS JUST OVER $3 MILLION, I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND $3 MILLION A YEAR.

[02:00:04]

OH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, JUST BASED ON THE ESTIMATE FOR THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT WOULD BE FROM $178 TO $157.

AND THEN WE BASED THAT ON THE 550.

OKAY. AND THEN THAT WOULD GET ADDED INTO THE ESTIMATED COST.

CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHY YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL, FROM 768 TO 719.

GOTCHA. SO WHEN YOU ADD THAT TOGETHER, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEW PROPOSAL FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY, YOU KNOW, YOUR INCREASE, YOU GO UP $16 NEXT YEAR, ZERO NEXT YEAR, 16 THE YEAR AFTER THAT, YOU GET UP TO $120, JUST INCREASE.

AND THAT'S BASED ON 550.

SO, YOU KNOW, COULD BE LESS.

COULD BE A LITTLE BIT LESS.

SO. AND THESE ARE ASSUMPTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SPEAKING WITH BOND COUNCIL ON WHAT WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THIS COST THE TOWN OF JUPITER? I MEAN, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, THE INTEREST RATES ARE WELL ABOVE 4%.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO DO.

WE ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ADDING A MARINE DIVISION INTO JUPITER'S.

OK. AND THEN THE AS FAR AS A TRAINING, WE HAVE TRAINING, RIGHT.

WAS ANYTHING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION OF A TRAINING CENTER WITH A TOWER AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO TRAIN THE FIREFIGHTERS? NOT FOR THIS PRESENTATION, BUT IN A DISCUSSION YESTERDAY AND LAST NIGHT, IT CAME UP ON SOME POTENTIAL SITES THAT THAT COULD OCCUR AT. YEAH. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT IN, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME ASSUMED CALLS FOR THAT AS WELL.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ESTIMATE OUT INTO THE THING.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AND THEN WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOT BROUGHT UP.

SO WITH THE, WHEN WE'RE PROPOSING, IF YOU'RE PROPOSING STARTING A NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT, WAS IT ADDED INTO THEIR SPECIAL OPERATIONS WITH JUPITER DOING THEIR OWN THING, A DIVE TEAM, A HAZMAT TEAM, TECHNICAL RESCUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, SIR. CAN WE GET ESTIMATES ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE TO ADD THAT IN THERE? WELL, WHAT I THINK THE, WHAT I THINK THE BEST APPROACH TO THAT IS, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU ESTIMATES ON THIS, IS MOST COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THIS, THERE'S LARGER REGIONAL TEAMS THAT WOULD RESPOND TO A COMPLEX HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INCIDENT WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO MULTIPLE LEVEL A ENTRIES IN A COMPLEX CONFINED SPACE EMERGENCY, WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE TEAMS IN PLACE TO MAKE THAT ENTRY. YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES HERE.

CAN YOU START THE ASSESSMENT ON THE HAZMAT? CAN YOU DO OPERATIONAL LEVEL THINGS? ABSOLUTELY. BUT CONTINUOUS OR JUST A LEVEL A ENTRY? NO, THAT'S MORE OF A REGIONAL CONCEPT.

AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS THERE IS YOU RELY ON STILL THE COUNTY FOR THAT TO COME IN AND DO THE COMPLEX MISSION.

OKAY. AND THEN DID WE TAKE, WHEN WE WERE ESTIMATING WITH THE PERSONNEL HIRING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, WAS THERE AN ESTIMATE IN THERE FOR BUILDING IN RETIREMENT? THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED YET ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDING IN THERE FOR RETIREMENT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONTINUOUS THING GOING ON.

YEAH. YEAH, WE HAVE THAT. AND THE PERSONNEL COSTS INCLUDE ALL OF THAT.

OKAY. AND THEN YOU SAID MID RANGE SALARY.

WHAT WAS THAT MID RANGE? FOR? FOR THE FIREFIGHTER.

YEAH. IF YOU'RE GOING TO RECRUIT SOMEONE AND THEY WANT TO COME FROM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE HIRED THEM STRAIGHT OUT OF SCHOOL OR YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO ATTRACT SOMEONE FROM A DIFFERENT FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE DID THE MID RANGE, BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A GOAL HERE TOO AT THE 75 PERCENTILE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND RECOST THAT.

OKAY. SO, IF YOU JUST.

YOU GOT.

WHEN CHIEF POZZO BROUGHT UP HIS NUMBERS, I DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PERSONNEL COSTS, COMPARED THEM TO GARDENS.

I DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME THAT THEY HAD USED GARDENS AS THE MODEL, BUT I'D PICK THE CLOSEST ONE, LOOKED AT THAT AND I DID REMIND CHIEF POZZO THAT THE COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US DIRECTION IN RELATION TO PERSONNEL, THAT WE TRY TO BE WITHIN THE 75TH PERCENTILE OF AREA MARKET.

SO HE HAD ALREADY TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO UPDATE THOSE NUMBERS BASED ON THAT.

OKAY. JUST YEAH, JUST FOR CONSIDERATION.

JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WHEN I HEARD THE THE LAST, THAT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE.

YEAH. OKAY. OKAY.

AND THEN JUST BACK TO THE ISO CLASS 1 RATING.

[02:05:03]

NO, SIR. STATE FARM IS ONE BIG ONE THAT I CAN CAN TELL YOU ABOUT.

THEY DO NOT. NO, SIR.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN THEY HAVE A SIMILAR SORT OF SYSTEM, BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT DATA THAT THEY USE AND PLUG INS.

OKAY. JUST BECAUSE WITH THE ISO RATING, OBVIOUSLY THE, FOR A DEPARTMENT TO OBTAIN ISO JUST FOR YOUR GUYS'S INFORMATION, IT IS AN INSANELY HEAVY LIFT.

THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT.

AND IT COMES DOWN TO OBVIOUSLY IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, WE HAVE HYDRANTS EVERYWHERE.

WE HAVE GREAT WATER PRESSURE, WE HAVE GREAT RESPONSE.

BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO SOME OF THE MORE RURAL AREAS AND YOU NEED TO MAKE YOUR OWN WATER SUPPLY, YOU KNOW, PALM BEACH COUNTY WAS ABLE TO PROVE THAT THEY CAN MAKE THEIR OWN WATER SUPPLY IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S NO WATER.

AND IT'S A IT'S A BIG TASK.

IT'S A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE OPERATION WHEN YOU PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

SO TO ATTAIN A CLASS 1 ISO RATING, THEY DID THAT TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BEACH COUNTY AND THE VISITORS AS WELL.

AND SO YOU GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE THING, YOU GET THE RATING.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE IT, BUT IT ALSO GIVES THE INSURANCE COMPANIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO, OKAY, SO THEY'RE BEING SERVICED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR FIRE EXTINGUISHMENT IN THEIR BUSINESS OR RESIDENCE, WHATEVER IT IS.

AND THESE INSURANCE COMPANIES TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TO ACTUALLY GET A REDUCTION ON YOUR INSURANCE BILL.

SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER AN INCREASE IN FIRE RESCUE THE TAX, YOU COULD ALSO LOOK AT IT AS A DECREASE IN YOUR INSURANCE BY STAYING WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY, TOO.

SO IT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW EVERYTHING WORKS OUT.

BUT YOU COULD HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE OVER HERE, BUT YOU MIGHT ALSO BE EXPERIENCING A SLIGHT DECREASE ON YOUR INSURANCE BILL.

SO.

BUT WE HAVE A LOT TO OBVIOUSLY DIGEST AND TALK ABOUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT EVERYONE COMES BACK WITH.

SO I WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH MORE TIME.

SO.

AGAIN, I WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO THE CONSULTANTS, TO STAFF FOR REALLY PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, I MEAN, FOR STILL PERHAPS BEING INTERESTED IN CONTINUING TO SERVE US.

SO I KNOW IT WAS IN YOUR DECISION TO COME IN WITH THE EXTREMELY HIGH PROPOSAL.

BUT AGAIN, I FEEL WE AS A TEAM MADE GOOD PROGRESS TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. AND WE'LL CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH WE'RE GOING.

THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, WE

[REPORTS]

I'D LIKE TO REQUEST AN ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVATE SESSION IN REGARDS TO THE CASE OF HARBORSIDE PLACE LLC VERSUS THE TOWN OF JUPITER TO BE SET WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND? SO MOVE. SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[TOWN MANAGER]

I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SIT HERE WHILE YOU HAVE ALL THIS GOING ON WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EMERGENCY SERVICES.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN SUCH A UNIQUE POSITION.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, AS A TOWN, WHILE THIS IS A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION, IT IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE IN BECAUSE WE HAVE GREAT LEVELS OF SERVICE.

IT IS A BUSINESS DECISION.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A SUSTAINABILITY ISSUE.

AND AS YOU'RE ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS.

I KNOW CHIEF DUREN AND CHIEF KENNEDY AND I HAVE, WE MEET REGULARLY AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND KEEP THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE DID HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING BEEN HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ASKED ICMA TO COME ON BOARD.

THAT'S THE INTERNATIONAL CITY COUNTY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT RUN CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND INTERNATIONALLY.

OUR FIRE CHIEFS HERE ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD, AS YOU'VE YOU'VE HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT.

AND SO REALLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO IS, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IT'S NOT.

IT'S NOT THE TOWN OF JUPITER VERSUS THE PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

IT IS NOT THAT.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD EVER BE THAT.

AND REALLY, IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO ACCEPT IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL SERVICE COSTS.

[02:10:06]

SERVICE COSTS, MSTU RATES.

AND I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY'VE COME FORWARD WITH THE SECOND PROPOSAL IN A TIMELY MANNER SHOWS THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN STAYING HERE IN JUPITER. NONETHELESS THOUGH WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BRING YOU THE INFORMATION.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

WHEN WE COME BACK IN JANUARY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT MORE DETAILS AND ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS COUNCILOR MAY HAD AND OTHERS.

AND SO WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT IN TERMS OF TIMELINE.

I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN JANUARY.

WE, EITHER WAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN MSTU AGREEMENT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE FIRST DRAFT OF THAT, THE FIRST READING OF THAT COMING UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.

AND SO THEN YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK.

WEIGH IN. WE'LL BRING YOU THE SECOND READING AT THE FIRST MEETING OF DECEMBER AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE IT.

OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE IT SIGNED AND READY TO GO AND TO THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT BY THE END OF DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER WE'VE GOT THE SECOND, BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAMMER OUT A LOT OF THE SPECIFIC NUTS AND BOLTS.

WE HAVE A FEW MONTHS TO GET THAT DONE.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOWN THE ROAD WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU SEE ON THE NEXT AGENDA THE FIRST READING FOR THE MSTU.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT BUSINESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

I KNOW ONE OF THE IMPORTANT ASPECTS FOR THE COUNCIL WAS TO START, EXTEND OUR OUTREACH INTO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD ROGER HELD IN HIS POSITION NOW.

WE HAD OUR FIRST BUSINESS ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY LEADERS.

THE FEEDBACK WAS VERY GOOD.

WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THAT AND SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON THAT PIECE AS WELL. FOR THOSE, JUST A REMINDER THAT ON NOVEMBER 2ND, STARTING AT 9 A.M., P & Z, PLANNING AND ZONING, IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE NEXT STEPS OF THE TOWN'S LIVING SHORELINE PILOT PROJECT.

AND THAT'S TOMORROW AT SAW FISH BAY PARK.

AND YOU'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON THAT.

AND THE FINAL.

AND THERE'S ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING OUT OF THIS AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE CLOSING.

NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES RECENTLY HOSTED A HOA CERTIFICATION CLASS, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

THEY'RE VERY, VERY GOOD AT IT AND GOOD FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL.

SO IT'S NICE TO GET OUT OF THE COVID WORLD AND AND HAVE TRUE INTERACTIONS AGAIN.

AND THEN THE FINAL THING ON MY REPORT TONIGHT IS RECENTLY AT COUNCIL COMMENTS, YOU HAD ASKED ME TO LOOK INTO THE NEW BUILDING AND TAKE A LOOK AT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHETHER THE SPACE WAS ADEQUATE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO REPORT BACK TO YOU THAT I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE STAFF, WITH THE TEAM, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPERS, THE ARCHITECTS.

WE LOOKED AT OVER AND OVER ON THE FLOOR PLANS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT TO YOU THAT THE FOOTPRINT LOOKS GOOD, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE LOOKS GOOD.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE JUST MINOR MODIFICATIONS [INAUDIBLE] THE STANDARD PROCESS OF WHAT THEY CALL PROGRAM EVALUATION.

AND SO ANY TIME YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW BUILDING, YOU START OUT WITH YOUR PROSPECT AND THEN YOU COME BACK AS YOU'RE GETTING READY TO REALLY GO AT IT.

WERE OUR ESTIMATES ACCURATE.

AND SO THEY WERE.

WE'VE HAD TO MAKE A FEW MINOR ADJUSTMENTS.

SO EVERYTHING IS GOOD THERE.

I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO ADD ADDITIONAL SPACE IN THAT OPEN FORUM AREA.

CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD LOOK AT.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THIS GOT A PRICE TAG OF ABOUT 600 TO $700,000 TO DO THAT.

SO IN A ONE ON ONE, YOU CAN KIND OF, OR IF YOU WANT TO TELL ME NOW, IF YOU WANTED TO PURSUE THAT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK.

THE TEAM HAS DONE A GOOD JOB WITH IT AND WE SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO.

THAT'S MY REPORT, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]

COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM.

I'M IN THE MIDDLE. THAT'S DEFINITELY A DEPARTURE FROM NORMAL.

WELL, I DON'T REALLY HAVE TOO MUCH TO REPORT TODAY.

I DO WANT TO SAY HOW GRATEFUL I AM FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE JUST BEING IN TOWN.

[02:15:01]

YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER EXPECT TO SEE YOU IN ACTION, BUT IT HAPPENS.

AND THERE WAS SOMEONE AT TJ MAXX THAT REALLY NEEDED HELP.

AND YOU WERE THERE IN RECORD TIME.

I MEAN, BEFORE I COULD TURN AROUND, YOU WERE THERE.

SO WE REALLY ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOU.

AND I PLAN TO BE AT THE VETERANS SERVICE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AGAIN, FOR ACKNOWLEDGING TODAY.

AND THAT'S REALLY IT.

COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

COUNCILOR MAY.

I'M GOOD. THANK YOU.

IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT. I'M GOOD.

[LAUGHTER] JUST. AND THIS IS AN ASK.

BUT NOT TO CREATE IT.

YEARS AGO.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YEARS AGO, WE WERE IN THE SAME SITUATION AND THE TOWN WAS CONSIDERING BEGINNING ITS OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND I THINK THE SAME ORGANIZATION HELPED US BACK THEN.

AND WE WOUND UP STAYING WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY, BUT BEEN THERE, DONE THIS BEFORE.

I WASN'T SITTING IN THIS SEAT.

I THINK I WAS ONE OF THESE OTHER SEATS.

BUT WE USED TO GET AN ANNUAL REPORT.

MAYBE IT STILL COMES INTO THE TOWN, BUT, AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR ONE TO BE CREATED.

IF THERE IS SUCH AN ANNUAL REPORT, I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY INFORMATIVE.

I THINK THE COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JUST SEEING THAT.

I'M SEEING HEAD NODS, BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT TO BE CREATED.

BUT IF THERE'S ONE, I HADN'T SEEN IN YEARS.

I ALWAYS LIKE READING IT.

YEAH. I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM.

WE DO GENERATE IT AND WE DO HAVE ONE COMING OUT VERY SHORTLY.

I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER 4TH.

I THINK WE'RE REALLY CLOSE.

SHE'S LOOKING AT. I THINK I GOT IT RIGHT.

I THINK. OR YOU COULD MAYBE JUST GET US THE LAST ONE YOU DID.

AND THEN WHEN THE NEW ONE COMES OUT.

CERTAINLY. YEAH. AND I WOULD ASK TO ALSO DO A PRESENTATION TO THIS BODY AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK WE HEARD A LOT TONIGHT, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN SHARE FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AS WELL.

THAT WAS PRETTY INFORMATIVE BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY, IT GAVE THE SUMMARY OF WHICH THE NEXT ACTUALS WERE COMPUTED.

RIGHT. MY RECOLLECTION OF IT.

SO AND WE'VE ALSO UPDATED OUR VIDEO WHAT PALM BEACH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED TONIGHT THAT ARE REALLY PUT INTO THAT VIDEO AND WHAT WE REPRESENT AND WHAT WE DO.

BUT I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK.

I KNOW IT'S A LATE EVENING, BUT I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND PRESENT TO YOU.

CERTAINLY. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU COULD GET US PAPER COPY OR WHATEVER.

YES, SIR, I WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.