Oct 06, 2022 Town Council Special Meeting

GOOD EVENING. REGRETS FOR STARTING LATE.

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WE'LL BEGIN WITH INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN THE PLEDGE.

DEAR GOD, ENABLE US TO ADD OUR SKILLS AND STRENGTHS TO ALL WHO SERVE FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AMEN. AMEN. LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

MAYOR KURETSKI. HERE.

VICE MAYOR DELANEY. HERE.

COUNCILOR MAY. COUNCILOR SNYDER.

HERE. COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM.

TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW.

HERE. TOWN ATTORNEY BAIRD.

HERE. OK THIS IS, WE BEGIN THE MEETING WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PRIOR TO ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL.

YES, WE HAVE THREE.

BETH DILLINGER. AFTER BETH, IT'S LINDA SMITH.

BETH DILLINGER, 104 WEST BEVERLY ROAD.

YEAH. CHIEF ENGLUND PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH A MAN THAT'S DRIVING TO THE WEST COAST SATURDAY WITH A TRUCK AND A TRAILER.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY DONATIONS TO MAKE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW TONIGHT OR IN THE MORNING.

THANKS. LINDA SMITH.

AFTER LINDA, IT'S MB HAGUE I LIVE IN JUPITER, FLORIDA.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I HAVE TO ADMIT, IT'S HARD TO GET TO ALL OF YOUR MEETINGS.

I WANT TO TRY TO GET TO MORE OF THEM.

I HAVE SPOKEN IN THE PAST ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS A BUDGETING ISSUE WHEN IT COMES UP DURING THE YEAR AND THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS. SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE, AS MORE AND MORE AMERICAN COMPANIES ARE PRODUCING ELECTRIC VEHICLES, I HOPE JUPITER IS PUTTING THEIR ORDERS IN AND TRYING TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION ISSUES.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FUNDING THE SAWFISH BAY LIVING SHORELINE.

I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT AND I'M ASKING YOU, IF POSSIBLE, TO PLEASE MOVE AHEAD WITH A SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR POSITION.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE IN CHARGE AND RESPONSIBLE/ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PROGRESS IN JUPITER'S SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY.

SPREADING THIS JOB ACROSS ALREADY OVERWORKED STAFF IS GOING TO PROVIDE LESS THAN A POSITIVE OUTCOME, I'M AFRAID.

AND AS FAR AS THE TOWN HALL, I KNOW YOUR FOLKS WILL BE SPEAKING ON THAT TONIGHT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW AND ADD ENERGY CONSERVATION INITIATIVES.

THESE WILL SAVE RESIDENTS TAX DOLLARS FOR DECADES.

PLEASE DO NOT ACCEPT DEDUCT CHANGE ORDERS THAT WILL PROVIDE SHORT TERM SAVINGS.

AND PLEASE CONSIDER CHANGE ORDERS THAT WILL MAKE US MORE RESILIENT AND MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT IN THE FUTURE.

EFFICIENT USE OF SPACE IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING FOR GOOD DESIGN, BUT ALSO CONSIDER DESIGN FOR STAFF WORKING REMOTELY.

I KNOW THAT WAS USED IN THE PAST AND MIGHT ACTUALLY REDUCE YOUR FOOTPRINT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE HORSE MIGHT HAVE LEFT THE BARN ON THAT.

I HAVE OFFERED THROUGH THE SIERRA CLUB THAT I'M A MEMBER $250 TO THE VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA FOR PURCHASING OF REUSABLE WATER BOTTLES WITH THE LOGO AND STUFF ON IT.

I'M OFFERING THAT ALSO TO THE TOWN OF JUPITER.

IF YOU JUST WANT TO GET ENOUGH TO BE $250, THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU WANT TO ORDER MORE.

AND WE JUST PUT $250 TOWARD THAT, THAT IS FINE.

MY ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO TRY TO REDUCE THE USE OF SINGLE USE WATER BOTTLES, NOT ONLY ON THE DAIS, BUT BACK IN YOUR OFFICES AND WITH STAFF.

AND YOU'VE GOT MY CONTACT INFORMATION.

LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN DO TO HELP.

THANK YOU. MB HAGUE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

FOR THE RECORD, MB HAGUE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF JUPITER INLET FOUNDATION.

WITH WATER BEING THE SOUL OF JUPITER, THE IMPORTANCE OF LIFE THAT OCCURS UNDER THE SEA HAS BEEN GAINING MORE REALIZATION AND ATTENTION.

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THIS PAST TUESDAY, I STOPPED BY SAWFISH BAY PARK TO WATCH THE BEGINNING OF A PROJECT THAT COULD ONLY HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE TOWN DIRECTING A FOCUS INTO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, SPEARHEADED MAINLY BY GRETCHEN AND STEPHANIE IN PLANNING AND ZONING.

PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT BEGINS WITH CONSTRUCTING A LIVING SHORELINE IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING SEAWALL.

WHAT IMPRESSED ME ABOUT THIS PROJECT ARE SEVERAL THINGS I WANTED TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL AND PUBLIC: THE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH AND PLANNING IN ORDER TO PROVIDE RESULTS THAT WOULD BOTH SERVE AND SERVICE LIFE; THE SEARCHING AND FINDING OF A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD HELP PROVIDE MATERIALS AND LABOR FOR THIS PHASE; THE INCLUSION OF STUDENTS FROM JUPITER HIGH SCHOOL ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH ACADEMY, ENCOURAGING HANDS ON HELP, KNOWING THAT EXTRA EFFORT OF EDUCATING IS PARAMOUNT IF WE WANT THE NEXT GENERATION TO CONTINUE CARING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, PHASE ONE IS COOL.

IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN MANGROVES AND RIP WRAP AND CALL IT A DAY.

BUT ADDITION TO THAT, STAFF FOUND THE REEF BALL FOUNDATION THAT MAKES CONCRETE ARTIFICIAL REEF FORMS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY HALF A BALL THAT SITS ON THE SEA FLOOR AND IS ATTACHED.

AND IT'S GOT ALL KINDS OF NOOKS AND CRANNIES ON THE INSIDE SO SEA LIFE CAN SWIM IN AND THEY CAN ATTACH ITSELF.

SOME REALLY INTERESTING THINGS IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PERFECT FOR OYSTERS.

THE PLAN IS TO RESTORE THE OYSTERS THAT USED TO GROW IN THIS AREA.

OYSTERS FUSED TOGETHER AS THEY GROW, PROVIDE HABITAT FOR OTHER MARINE ANIMALS AND PLANTS.

OYSTERS ALSO HAVE A TREMENDOUS ECOLOGICAL VALUE, ACTING AS NATURAL WATER PURIFIERS BY FILTERING AND REMOVING POLLUTION FROM THE WATER, WHICH HELPS TO RESTORE CLARITY. A SINGLE OYSTER CAN FILTER UP TO 50 GALLONS OF WATER A DAY.

OYSTERS HELP REMOVE EXCESS NITROGEN FROM WATER BY INCORPORATING IT INTO THEIR SHELLS AND TISSUE AS THEY GROW.

THIS PROJECT WILL BE TRANSFORMATIONAL IN PROVIDING HABITAT AND FIGHTING POLLUTANTS.

JIF IS GRATEFUL TO PARTNER IN SALTFISH BAY RESTORATION, HAS ALREADY INSTALLED TWO SEAGRASS CAUTION BUOYS SOUTH OF THE SEAWALL, AND HAS AN AMENDED PERMIT TO INSTALL THREE MORE AT THE NORTH END AS SOON AS WE SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING INTENT.

INSTALLING THE REEF BALLS AND MANGROVE PLANTING IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 2ND, SO I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO STOP BY THEN.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS IT.

THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THIS IS ITEMS 3-6 ON THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM? NO, MAYOR. ALSO, I'LL POINT OUT THERE'S MINUTES AHEAD OF THE I'M SORRY, I'LL JUST FINISH ON THE CONSENT AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE MINUTES IF THAT'S OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM SIX.

ITEM SIX. OKAY.

[1. September 22, 2022 Town Council Special Meeting Minutes.]

WE HAVE BEFORE US, THE MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 22ND MEETING.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY CHANGES ON THE DAIS.

ANY CHANGES? CORRECTIONS.

CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND? SO MOVE. SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEM NUMBER SIX HAS BEEN PULLED.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 2 THROUGH 5.

MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TWO THROUGH FIVE.

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. MOTION CARRIES 3-0.

[6. Approving the 2023 Town Council Meeting Schedule]

COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER, YOUR.

YES, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THERE WERE ON HERE, RECOMMENDED CHANGES OF DATES FOR 4TH OF JULY NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

BUT THERE WERE OTHER DATES ON HERE WHERE WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE MEETINGS.

AND I WANTED TO JUST, IF WE DON'T NORMALLY HAVE MEETINGS ON THOSE DAYS, TO JUST CLARIFY THE SCHEDULE.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT FOR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH ALL THE SCHEDULE CHANGES AND SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR ME TO REARRANGE EVERYTHING.

SO I WAS HOPING THAT IF WE KNEW AHEAD OF TIME, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MEETING JANUARY 3RD THAT WE WOULD KNOW THAT.

ARE WE GOING TO MEET THE DAY AFTER LABOR DAY? IF WE NORMALLY MEET IN THE LAST MEETING IN DECEMBER, JUST SORT OF SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE CAN CLARIFY AND THAT WE HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT WE CAN STICK TO MORE READILY AND IT HELPS PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONFLICTS WITH WORK.

YOU KNOW, I'LL TURN IT TO THE TOWN MANAGER, BUT I'LL SAY I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.

I THINK THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE OFTEN HOLD IT IN THE EVENT THERE'S AN ITEM THAT WE HAD TO TAKE ACTION ON.

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BUT IS THAT NOT THE REASON WHY WE INCLUDE EVERYONE? YOU'RE CORRECT, MAYOR, THAT IS WHY WE PUT THEM ON THERE.

AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE TONIGHT'S SIERRA MEETING, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE LAST MINUTE CHANGES ON WHO'S GOING TO BE PRESENT AND WHO ISN'T AND ITEMS AND STUFF.

SO THINGS CAN CHANGE AT THE LAST MINUTE, BUT WE TRY TO STICK TO THE SCHEDULE.

ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT? YEAH. IF WE CAN AT LEAST WORK OUT SOME PROCESS WHERE THERE'S NOTICE THAT THE SIERRA MEETING, THAT WAS KNOWN LIKE JUST A WEEK BEFORE.

AND IF YOU TRY TO MAKE PLANS IN ADVANCE, SOMETIMES IT CAN BE DIFFICULT.

SO I JUST LIKE TO GET CLARITY BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO AREN'T HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE SCHEDULE DID CHANGE.

AND SO I WANTED TO TRY TO AVOID THAT, IF WE CAN.

SURE. WELL, I'LL JUST SUGGEST SOMETHING.

TRYING TO JUST ADDRESS YOUR COMMENT IS WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS OCTOBER SIX.

WE APPROVE THAT AND WE ASK ALL, INCLUDING THE TWO THAT ARE NOT HERE, TO COMMENT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS DATES THAT THEY KNOW THEY COULDN'T MAKE, THEN WE COULD ALREADY ADJUST THAT NOW, RIGHT.

THAT'S A CHANGE WE COULD DO ON THE COUNCIL BECAUSE FOR THOSE THAT IN THE PUBLIC AND NEWEST MEMBER ON THE COUNCIL, THE PRACTICE HAS BEEN, AND IT HAPPENS RARELY, THAT IF WE HAD ONLY THREE, SO IF TWO PEOPLE SOMETHING CAME UP, THEN WE HAVE, UNLESS THERE WAS SOMETHING TIME SENSITIVE, NOT HELD THAT MEETING FOR RISK THAT ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING NOW SOMEONE DOESN'T YOU KNOW SOMETHING COMES UP, SO JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.

SO WHEN IT CAME UP THAT THE SECOND PERSON COULDN'T BE HERE, WE WERE DOWN TO THREE.

THEY WERE FOLLOWING.

IT ONLY HAPPENS ONCE EVERY FEW YEARS, BUT WHEN IT DOES, THAT HAD BEEN THE PRACTICE.

YEAH. SO.

BUT IN ANY EVENT BUT WE ALSO GET THE 30 DAY, WE GET THE 90 DAY LOOK AHEAD.

SO I THINK STAFF COULD, YOU KNOW, TRY TO ADVISE OF A CANCELLATION A LITTLE BIT AHEAD.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE OR YOU HAVE NOT, RIGHT.

BUT THAT WOULD ADDRESS US BEING PREPARED.

AND I THINK WHAT MOST FREQUENTLY HAPPENS IS AN APPLICANT ON A MAJOR ISSUE WOULD PULL IF THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH COUNCILS UP HERE TO GET A FAIR SHAKE.

SO THAT'S USUALLY THAT'S MORE TYPICAL.

YEAH. SO IT'S A PRETTY RARE OCCURRENCE THAT WE JUST CANCEL A MEETING.

YEAH, I JUST KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES THERE'S BEEN SHIFTS ON DAYS AND IT'S CAUSED SOME ISSUES, SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THAT IN ADVANCE. YEAH.

AND I ALSO WANT TO JUST SAY, IF IT HASN'T OCCURRED TO PEOPLE, I UNDERSTAND WHY COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULDN'T WANT TO PUBLICLY STATE THEY MAY BE NOT HERE AHEAD OF TIME.

THAT MAY BE LIKE I DON'T ANNOUNCE THAT I'M GOING ON VACATION.

JUST, YOU KNOW YOU SUBJECT YOUR PRIVATE RESIDENCE, I MEAN, SERIOUSLY.

SO, JUST SO THAT THERE'S UNDERSTANDING.

I GET THAT.

OKAY, SO YOU GOING TO ACCEPT IT OR YOU WANT TO DEFER IT? YOU KNOW, WE CAN ACCEPT IT AND THEN WORK ON THE NOTICE PROVISIONS ON THE CHANGES.

MOTION AND A SECOND? SO MOVE. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND ON APPROVING THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

[7. Resolution 60-22, Accepting the 2022 updates to the Water and Stormwater Master Plans (W2203).]

GOOD EVENING. DAVID BROWN, DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES, FOR THE RECORD.

THIS EVENING I'D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH A FEW, THREE THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, AS REQUESTED, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR TWO WOULD ASK THAT WE DO A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE STORMWATER PROJECTS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WATER SIDE OF THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS AT LENGTH, BUT TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO PRETTY MUCH GO THROUGH THE STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT WERE PROPOSED IN THE PLAN JUST REAL QUICKLY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

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AND THEN LASTLY, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 60-2 2, WHICH WOULD ACCEPT THE MASTER PLANS.

THE WATER AND STORMWATER MASTER PLANS SERVE AS A REFERENCE DOCUMENT TO THE TOWN'S INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENT OF ITS COMP PLAN.

IT ALSO SERVES AS A INTEGRAL PIECE OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT'S LOWER EAST COAST WATER SUPPLY PLAN.

WE HAVE TO DO OUR PLANNING, OBVIOUSLY IN COORDINATION.

AND THEN LASTLY, HAVING A DOCUMENT SUCH AS A UTILITY MASTER PLAN IS USUALLY A PREREQUISITE OF MANY GRANT APPLICATIONS AS WE PURSUE FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDING FOR ANY OF THE INCLUDED PROJECTS, THEY TYPICALLY WILL LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF A PROJECT WHILE WE ENTER THE PROCESS.

SO WITH THAT, LET ME FIRST START TO GO THROUGH THE STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE 2022 STORMWATER UTILITY MASTER PLAN UPDATE. ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS, A COUPLE OF THESE ARE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT I WANTED TO JUST WHIP THROUGH THEM VERY QUICKLY.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE SEMINOLE BASIN IMPROVEMENTS, SPECIFICALLY THE JUNO STREET STORMWATER PUMP STATION.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS CONSTRUCTION UNDERWAY OUT ALONG OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

IT'S MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

OUR CONTRACTOR IS PERFORMING WELL ON THIS PROJECT AND WE HOPE TO HAVE IT DONE IN THE EARLY SPRING, SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE.

BASICALLY THIS PROJECT WILL SERVE AS A FLOOD RELIEF MECHANISM FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA SOUTH OF CENTER STREET, WHICH OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE AREA NORTH OF CENTER STREET, ANY FLOODING THERE DISSIPATES BEFORE THAT AREA CAN BE PUMPED DOWN.

ALL THE WATER FROM THIS AREA HISTORICALLY FLOWS UNDER CENTER STREET UP TO AN EXISTING PUMP STATION THAT WE HAVE UP ON SEMINOLE AVENUE WHERE THE WATER IS DISCHARGED OUT TO THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER.

THIS PUMP STATION WILL PROVIDE REDUNDANCY, REDUCE FLOODING STAGES, AND GIVE US ANOTHER MEANS OF GETTING WATER OUT OF THAT AREA FASTER.

IT ALSO WILL HAVE A WATER QUALITY COMPONENT UTILIZING WHAT IS KNOWN AS A NEW TECHNOLOGY, A JELLYFISH FILTER UPSTREAM OF THE STORMWATER PUMP STATION TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY COMING OUT OF THIS AREA.

PINE GARDENS NORTH.

THIS CONSTRUCTION HAS HAS BEGUN.

MOSTLY THE WATER DISTRIBUTION IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN THUS FAR, BUT THE STORMWATER IS STARTING.

THIS PROJECT, WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE LATTER PART OF NEXT SUMMER.

IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE SOME IMPROVEMENTS UP ALONG OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTH OF CENTER STREET NEAR FLORIDA AVENUE AND SEMINOLE AVENUE.

JUPITER RIVER ESTATES CANAL VEGETATIVE CLEARING.

WE'VE ALL BEEN ANXIOUS TO TRY TO GET THIS UNDERWAY.

THIS PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO A POTENTIAL TEN YEAR MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT FOR THE BENEFITING PROPERTIES.

WE BIDDED ONCE IN WHICH WE HAD ONE, A SINGLE BID, WHICH WAS WAY OVER BUDGET.

SO WE'VE DROPPED BACK, SPOKEN TO THE POTENTIAL VENDORS.

AND WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT OUR TIMING OF THIS PROJECT CONFLICTED WITH CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS? [LAUGHTER] SO THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T GET TOO MANY BIDS.

IT'S AMAZING HOW INVOLVED THE SAME CONTRACTORS INVOLVED WITH TRIMMING AND THEN PUTTING UP DECORATIONS, SO THE TIMING SHOULD WORK OUT THIS GO ROUND. THE BID OPENING IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON OCTOBER 27TH AND WE ANTICIPATE GREATER INVOLVEMENT BY LOCAL CONTRACTORS AND HOPEFULLY A BETTER PRICE.

NORTH A1A INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE ADOPTED A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH PALM BEACH COUNTY TO DO THIS PROJECT JOINTLY.

IT'S AN AREA THAT HISTORICALLY HAS FLOODING ISSUES NORTH OF INDIANTOWN ROAD, EAST OF THE MALTZ THEATER.

THE DEAL WE CUT WITH THE COUNTY IS THAT WE WOULD DESIGN AND PERMIT THE PROJECT IF THEY TAKE ON THE CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR DESIGN.

WE'RE RESPONDING TO SOME DESIGN COMMENTS THAT THE COUNTY HAD, BUT WE HOPE TO MOVE THAT TO CONSTRUCTION VERY SOON WITH THE COUNTY.

PENNOCK INDUSTRIAL PARK STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS PROJECT WAS FUNDED FOR FY 23.

WE'RE INITIATING DESIGN ON THAT.

WE DID RECEIVE A SMALL LOXAHATCHEE RIVER PRESERVATION INITIATIVE GRANT THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATURE ON THIS PROJECT, AND THAT ONE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD THIS FISCAL YEAR.

FISHERMAN'S LANDING.

OLDER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS COMMUNITY, SOME STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS, SOME REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING FAILING SYSTEMS AND THEN A LOT OF [INAUDIBLE] SWALING IN THIS

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EGANFUSKEE. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS STREET, IT'S OVER BACK BEHIND THE DUNE DOG AREA AND SO FORTH.

THAT WHOLE AREA IS VERY LOW FROM A TITLE PERSPECTIVE.

THIS PHOTO THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS BACK WHEN THE STREET COULD RECEIVE BACKFLOW FROM THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY IN THAT AREA. SINCE THIS PICTURE HAS BEEN TAKEN, WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH INSTALLING A STRUCTURE TO ALLOW A BACKFLOW PREVENTION DEVICE IN THE STORMWATER SYSTEM, WHICH HAS PREVENTED A LOT OF THIS FLOODING.

BUT THERE'S STILL SOME AREAS THAT NEED SOME IMPROVEMENT, INCLUDING THE INTERSECTION OF PAULINA AND EGANFUSKEE.

SO WE ANTICIPATE PUTTING IN SOME ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE STRUCTURES AND PIPING THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THAT AREA IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

BUSH ROAD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN ON BUSH ROAD JUST WEST OF THE WALMART SHOPPING CENTER, THAT AREA DOES GET INUNDATED FROM TIME TO TIME, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE AREA TO THE WEST OF BUSH ROAD HAS NO POSITIVE DRAINAGE.

IT'S BASICALLY A LOW LYING BOWL.

I CAN'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THE COMMUNITY JUST TO THE WEST.

IT USED TO BE CALLED SENTIMENTAL JOURNEY.

MAYBE THE STREET'S CALLED THAT.

BUT IT HAS FLOODING ISSUES AND BY OUR PLACEMENT OF BETTER DRAINAGE WITHIN BUSH ROAD, WE SHOULD HELP ALLEVIATE THAT PROJECT'S DRAINAGE ISSUES TO A GOOD EXTENT.

DOLPHIN DRIVE. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS QUITE FREQUENTLY, AND THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD ALONG WITH SOME WATERLINE REPLACEMENTS ON DOLPHIN DRIVE .

THE EXISTING DRAINAGE ISSUES ON DOLPHIN DRIVE BASICALLY ARE EXISTING WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE OR SIX HOMES OFF OF CENTER STREET.

THAT LENGTH OF THE SOUTHERN END OF DOLPHIN DRIVE WILL BE PUTTING IN VARIOUS STORMWATER STRUCTURES AND PIPING, BRINGING IT BACK TO THE OUTFALL, WHICH IS OUT ON CENTER STREET. AND YES, SIR.

JUST ON THAT ONE, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, BUT IT'S PRETTY EVIDENT TO ME WHEN I GO DOWN THERE AT THAT FIRST HOUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, OH MY GOSH, YOU KNOW, THEY BUILD IT UP HIGH AND EVERYTHING SLOPES PRETTY STEEP SLOPE TO THE ROAD.

SO WE'VE ALLOWED HOMES TO BE BUILT THAT ARE ACTUALLY CAUSING THE FLOODING.

YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW GOING FORTH IF THE TOWN SHOULDN'T MAKE THEM REGRADE.

AND THIS IS NOT JUST A LACK OF A SWALE.

THIS IS JUST I MEAN, THAT'S WHY IT FLOODS THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S CAUSED BY A PROPERTY OWNER OR A FEW PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, GOING FORTH, I KNOW THIS ONE'S IN THE PIPELINE HERE TO BE DONE, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE PROPERTY OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE. IF THEY'RE FLOODING, THEN THEY SHOULD BE CURING IT, RIGHT.

SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE GO FORTH.

GOTCHA. IS THAT WATER PUMPED OUT OR IS IT IT'S ALL GRAVITY.

THIS OUTFALL, ALSO WE HAVE ALREADY INSTALLED ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE TIDAL BACKFLOW VALVES BECAUSE THAT AREA ALSO GETS IMPACTED BY BACKFLOW OF KING TIDES INTO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM, WHICH COMES UP IN THE STREETS.

THAT PART HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED BY OUR STAFF.

YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT THE COUNTY USED TO, WHEN I BUILT MY HOUSE, I WAS IN THE COUNTY, IN THE SHORES, AND THE COUNTY MADE US DO A DRAINAGE SURVEY TO PROVE THAT THE LOT YOU WERE CONSTRUCTING WAS CONTOURED TO DRAIN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPERTY PLAN.

TOWN HAD SUCH A THING AND IT WERE PRETTY MUCH BUILT OUT NOW.

BUT THE TOWN HAD SUCH A THING HERE, THAT HOME WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE BUILT AS IT WAS.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS FLOODING THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF PUBLIC MONEY ON.

BUT ANYWAY, LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND.

NEXT UP, CYPRESS DRIVE.

THIS IS, CYPRESS DRIVE, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, IT USED TO BE A WHOLE LOT WORSE.

BUT IT STILL HAS ITS ISSUES BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPERVIOUS, THE ENTIRETY OF THE ENTIRE STREET.

THERE'S VERY LITTLE GREEN AREA AND SO FORTH.

THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE INTENDED TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE FLOODING COMING DOWN THE STREET, SPECIFICALLY A LOW LYING AREA ACROSS FROM LAKE SIX, BERRY, THAT GENERAL AREA. MR. BRANDT, WHO OWNS 1432, HAS BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO PROVIDE US WITH AN EASEMENT TO INSTALL THIS NEW OUTFALL ALONG THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF HIS PROPERTY OUT TO THE EXISTING 42-INCH OUTFALL PIPELINE THAT WE CONSTRUCTED WITH THE NORTHERN PALM BEACH COUNTY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES, WHICH HELPS ALLEVIATE THAT FLOODING.

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BUT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD ALSO.

TOWN HALL AND DANIEL'S WAY WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS.

PART OF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH THE NEW TOWN HALL CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, BUT WE ALSO HOPE TO INSTALL A WATER QUALITY STRUCTURE AT THE SOUTHERN END OF DANIELS WAY.

BASICALLY, IT'S A HYDRODYNAMIC SEPARATOR, HELPS REMOVE FLOATABLES AND A LOT OF THE POLLUTANTS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE DISCHARGED INTO WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE HIGH SCHOOL DITCH.

BUT AS YOU SEE, THE HIGH SCHOOL DITCH FLOWS DIRECTLY INTO JONES CREEK.

SO IT HAS AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON THE WATER QUALITY OF THAT CREEK AND SOUTHWEST FORK OF THE RIVER.

DOVER DITCH LIVING SHORELINE IMPROVEMENTS.

SIMILAR TO SAWFISH BAY, WE HOPE TO TAKE AN UGLY STRAIGHT SHOT DITCH CANAL AND DO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT WITH IT. THIS PROJECT, WE'RE DOING IT FOR FRIENDS IN TEQUESTA.

WE HAVE APPLIED FOR OUR LOXAHATCHEE RIVER PRESERVATION GRANT FOR THIS PROJECT OF $400,000.

IT WAS THE NUMBER ONE RANKED PROJECT BY THE LRPI THIS YEAR.

SO WE'LL BE GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR POTENTIAL FUNDING THIS FALL.

THE TOWN'S PORTION IS 40% OF THE REMAINING BALANCE OF THE PROJECT, OR $160,000, SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD.

AND IT IS SLATED FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ASSUMING THAT GRANT FUNDING OCCURS.

EAST VIEW MANOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

EAST VIEW MANOR IS ANOTHER AREA SIMILAR TO PINE GARDENS NORTH, WHICH IS BASICALLY ENTRAPPED BY CENTER STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE FROM FLOWING TO TIDE.

PRESENTLY, OUR STUDIES HAVE VERIFIED THAT THERE ARE FLOW RESTRICTIONS UNDER CENTER STREET.

THERE'S AN EXISTING PALM BEACH COUNTY DRAINAGE FACILITY THAT GOES UNDER CENTER STREET THAT, IN OUR OPINION, IS UNDERSIZED.

WE HOPE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO ENLARGE THAT CROSSING OF CENTER STREET, WHICH SHOULD BE A LOW COST SOLUTION TO BRING SOME REMEDIATION OF THE FLOODING AT THE NORTH END OF EAST VIEW MANOR.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO WORK TO ELIMINATE POTENTIAL FLOWS FROM INDIANTOWN ROAD INTO THE SOUTHERN END OF THE SYSTEM, WHICH ARE ADDING TO THE PROBLEM SOMEWHAT.

ANOTHER WATER QUALITY PROJECT THAT WE ENVISION AND HOPE TO DO IS AT THE SEMINOLE BASIN PUMP STATION, WHICH IS NORTH OF CENTER STREET NEAR OLD TOWN HALL. THERE'S AN EXISTING WET RETENTION POND.

THERE'S A RELATIVELY NEW PRODUCT ON THE MARKET NOW THAT IS VERY GOOD AND VERY EFFECTIVE AS A NUTRIENT REDUCTION MECHANISM.

BASICALLY, YOU CONSTRUCT A UNDER DRAIN SYSTEM NEAR THE OUTFALL OF A WET RETENTION AREA, AND IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE IN REMOVING NUTRIENTS, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY IMPAIRMENT WITHIN THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER AT THE CURRENT TIME.

NEXT UP, THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY STEMMED FROM A RESIDENT'S SUGGESTION DURING ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT WE HAD WITH PALM GARDEN OR PINE GARDENS NORTH RESIDENTS.

AND THAT IS AFTER WE COMPLETE THAT JUNO STREET PUMP STATION.

MAYBE THE OPPORTUNITY EXISTS TO ALSO GIVE THEM SOME REDUNDANCY AND THEIR METHOD OF OUT FALLING TO THE RIVER.

RIGHT NOW PINE GARDENS NORTH HAS TO FLOW UNDER CENTER STREET, LIKE THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE EASTVIEW MANOR.

BUT POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN CONSIDER IF THE JUNO STREET PUMP STATION IS WORKING VERY WELL AT DRAINING THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA, WE CAN ALSO OUTFALL PART OF THE PINE GARDENS NORTH AREA EASTWARD ALSO, SO IT COULD EXPEDITE SOME OF THE RELIEF THAT THEY WOULD GET IN A FLOODING SITUATION.

SO WE'LL BE INVESTIGATING THAT.

IT'S IN A FUTURE YEAR.

IT'S OUT THERE SEVEN YEARS, SIX, SEVEN YEARS.

SO WE CAN INVESTIGATE IT FURTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FULLY VIABLE AND FEASIBLE.

DAVID, ON THAT ONE, YES.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO BEGIN IN THE UTILITY BEING FISCALLY, HAVE A FISCAL REALITY OF HOW MUCH FUNDING WE HAVE.

PROJECTS LIKE THIS PERHAPS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, PARTICULARLY SINCE IT'S GOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AREA.

TOWN, I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING THAT FOR YEARS.

TOWN DOESN'T DO THAT AND WE KEEP, THERE'S ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF TOWN AND ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE IN.

MANY OF THE OTHER AREAS PAY SPECIAL ASSESSMENT TO NORTHERN PALM BEACH COUNTY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR THEIR DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

SO IT'S REALLY LIKE DOUBLE AND UNFAIR TAXATION.

SO REALLY, LET'S START LOOKING AT THESE.

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THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE CONSIDERED.

AND IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE, WE CAN MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S SIX, SEVEN YEARS OUT.

SO AS WE FINE TUNE THE PROJECT AND START TALKING ABOUT IT IN CIP WINDOWS, THAT DECISION CERTAINLY CAN BE MADE.

DAVID, HOW MANY OTHER OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS NEED TO SORT OF REHABILITATION WITH THE DRAINAGE SOURCES GOING INTO THE FUTURE? AS SOON AS WE FINISH A ROUND OF THEM, ANOTHER SET COMES INTO THAT AGE CATEGORY THAT NEEDS A LOT OF HELP.

JUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE STARTS TO FAIL? AS THINGS START TO AGE, WE'RE FINDING MORE AND MORE STUFF, BUT WE ARE KNOCKING A LOT OF IT OUT.

WE'VE MADE A LOT OF BIG STRIDES OVER THE PAST 20, 20 YEARS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO CIRCLE AROUND AND FEWER AND FEWER AREAS ARE GOING TO NEED IT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THINGS ARE AGING.

THESE COMMUNITIES WERE BUILT IN THE SIXTIES FOR THE MOST PART.

AND A LOT OF THEM HAD VERY LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE INITIALLY.

AND WITHOUT THE VISION OF WATER QUALITY AND THE RIVER SO AS WE GO INTO AREAS THAT NEED SOME MINIMIZATION OF FLOODING, WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO ADDRESS WATER QUALITY AT THE SAME TIME.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAT WAY.

NEXT PROJECT, CENTER STREET AND JONES CREEK WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS.

IT'S OUT THERE IN FY 28 BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT ON OUR PLATE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT THIS IS A BASICALLY INTO PIPE TREATMENT STRUCTURES, ONCE AGAIN, HYDRODYNAMIC SEPARATORS TO REMOVE A LOT OF THE POLLUTANTS COMING OFF OF CENTER STREET THAT ARE GOING RIGHT INTO SIMMS AND JONES CREEK.

ONCE AGAIN, THE PORTIONS OF THE RIVER THAT ARE DEEMED IMPAIRED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION REALLY ARE THOSE AROUND SIMS AND JONES CREEK IN THE SOUTHWEST FORK OF THE RIVER.

SO THESE COULD BE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM.

THIS IS A SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECT.

YOU MAY RECALL FROM A FEW YEARS AGO WE WENT INTO ELSA ROAD, WHICH IS ALSO BACK THERE BEHIND THE DUNE DOG AREA, WHAT WE CALL YACHT CLUB ESTATES. I THINK IT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLATTED NAME OF THE AREA AND PUT IN A GRAVITY DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT REALLY HELPED THAT COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, WHEN AND IF SEA LEVEL RISE STARTS TO IMPACT THAT AREA BY ANOTHER FOOT, FOOT AND A HALF, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE MORE PROBLEMS BESIDES HAVING TO ADDRESS THE AREA AND THE WAY THAT THEY'RE BUILDING HOMES IN THAT AREA, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THE INHERENT PROBLEM OF SEA LEVEL RISE IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THE FINISHED GRADES OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE ROADS ARE ALL VERY LOW.

SO WE DESIGNED THAT SYSTEM SO IT COULD BASICALLY ADAPT TO INCLUDE A PUMP STATION TO PUMP THAT AREA DOWN, TO AID THAT COMMUNITY ALSO.

THIS, MR. MAYOR, MAY BE ONE OF THOSE ASSESSMENT SITUATIONS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.

I KNOW OTHER COMMUNITIES, OTHER COUNTIES, OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS, WHEN IT COMES TO SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECTS, THEY DO CONSIDER ASSESSMENT AREAS ON THE BENEFITING PROPERTIES OF THOSE SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECTS.

BUT THIS IS OUT THERE WAYS BECAUSE WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE SEA LEVEL RISE, OBVIOUSLY, TO BE THAT DRAMATIC THAT QUICKLY.

SO WE ISOLATED IT IN FY 31.

SO IT'S OUT THERE A WAYS.

JUST A QUESTION ON THAT. AND I REALIZE IT'S FAR, FAR OUT AND YOU MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IT'S PROBABLY IMPRACTICAL IF IT WAS A SEA LEVEL RISE TO HAVE THE PUMP SIZE SO THAT THE WATER NEVER GETS IN THE AREA, IT'S MORE THAT IT'S MOVING QUICKER.

IS THAT REALLY A DESIGN BASIS? YEAH [INAUDIBLE] TRY TO JUST MINIMIZE THE EXACT RISE.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF SEA WALLS ARE NOT RAISED CONCURRENTLY OR IF THERE'S WAYS FOR THE WATER TO COME IN AT YOU, THE PUMP STATION WILL NEVER KEEP UP WITH IT.

WE MAY WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE FOOTNOTE THAT SO SOMEBODY IS NOT GETTING THE FALSE IMPRESSION THIS IS GOING TO PREVENT ANY FLOODING FROM HAPPENING.

IT JUST, IT'S GOING TO DRAIN QUICKER.

PERSONALLY, I ENVISION THAT AREA IF SEA LEVEL RISE FOLLOWS THE CURVES THAT EVERYBODY SAYS THAT IT WILL, THAT THOSE HOMES SOONER OR LATER WILL HAVE TO BE ELEVATED. YEAH.

TAYLOR PROPERTY.

I KNOW THAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE.

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IF I CAN BACK, BACK UP.

THIS VISION OF THE PROPERTY'S CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN INCLUDES MANY WALKWAYS, OVERLOOKS KAYAK LAUNCHES AND SO FORTH, AS WELL AS A FRESHWATER WETLAND AREA, WHICH I WANT TO SAY SEVERAL THREE ACRES, I WANT TO SAY MAYBE, AS WELL AS A SMALL WET RETENTION AREA TO THE SOUTH ON THAT ONE LITTLE OUT PARCEL THAT CAME WITH THE TAYLOR PROPERTY TO THE TOWN.

THIS IS VERY CONCEPTUAL AND IT WAS JUST PUT TOGETHER TO START TALKS WITH WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DONE ON THAT PROJECT.

IF WE INCLUDE STORMWATER POLISHING ON IT, OBVIOUSLY THAT ADDS A LOT OF COST TO IT.

WE ENVISIONED THAT IF YOU WANTED TO DO A FRESHWATER WETLAND ON IT, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BRING THE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM THE COMMUNITIES TO THE SOUTH ALONG DELAWARE BOULEVARD UP TO THE SITE, BUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF IS VERY EXPENSIVE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

BUT ONE KEY THING THAT WE ALWAYS ENVISIONED IS THIS PROJECT'S GOING TO NEED PARTNERS AND IT'S GOING TO NEED GRANTS.

SO THE DATE THAT WE PLACED IT WITHIN OUR 25 YEAR CIP PLANNING CYCLE WAS FY 29.

THAT GIVES US ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS TO TRY TO FIT WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE ON THAT PARCEL, HOW FAR YOU'D LIKE TO GO WITH THE PROJECT AND SEE IF ANY PARTNER STEP UP. I THINK JID MAY PARTICIPATE EVEN MORE.

AND SEE WHAT GRANTS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR IT.

SO IT'S ALL CONCEPTUAL AND IT'S WAY OUT THERE.

IT'S NOT IN THE CIP WINDOW YET.

IT'S JUST A BRAINSTORM OF PROBABLY WHAT THE BEST POSSIBLE USE FROM A FRESHWATER WETLANDS STANDPOINT AND STORMWATER POLLUTION COULD BE ON THE TAYLOR PROPERTY.

IS THERE ANY WET AREAS OF THAT PROPERTY NOW? IS IT JUST. YES, I BELIEVE THERE ARE.

STEPHANIE'S NOT HERE. STEPHANIE KNOWS THAT SITE FAR BETTER THAN I DO.

LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK ONE OF THE KEY THINGS, THAT AREA WHERE SHE ENVISIONS AN OXBOW, IS ALREADY PRETTY WET.

IT'S BASICALLY A SALTWATER, MARSHY AREA THAT COULD BE EXCAVATED TO CREATE A BETTER SYSTEM, AN OXBOW SYSTEM.

AND I'M SURE THERE'S SOME LOW LYING AREAS ELSEWHERE IN THE SITE TOO AND THAT'S WHY THE WETLAND AREA WAS LAID OUT LIKE IT WAS.

BUT I CAN FIND OUT MORE DETAILS AND SHARE IT WITH YOU.

I'M INTERESTED IN THAT.

SO I'M SURE THAT SOME TYPE OF SURVEY WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THE SITE ALREADY.

AND I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE, ALMA'S PLACE, WHICH IS A TOWN OWNED PARCEL NORTH OF KILLANE, NEAR OLD TOWN HALL.

IT'S A NATURAL AREA THAT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

RIVER ROAD TO THE EAST AND NORTH IS ACTUALLY A PRIVATE DRIVE, WHICH WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OWNERS ON THAT STREET. THEY KNOW THAT FROM A SEA LEVEL RISE STANDPOINT THAT THEY NEED TO ELEVATE THE ROAD.

THEIR ROAD GOES UNDER FROM TIME TO TIME.

THE TOWN OWNS A LITTLE OUTFALL THAT COMES OFF OF ALMA'S PLACE OUT TO THE RIVER.

YOU SEE THE LITTLE RED SEGMENT, IF I CAN GET MY POINTER TO WORK HERE.

HERE WE GO. SHOWING UP.

YOU CAN'T MAKE IT SHOW UP FOR YOU.

THERE ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT LITTLE RED SEGMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THAT OUTFALL AS SOON AS WE UNDERSTAND FROM THE RESIDENTS WHAT THEY WISH TO ELEVATE THE ROAD TO.

BUT WHAT IS ALSO NEEDED ON THIS SITE FROM A SEA LEVEL RISE STANDPOINT TO PROTECT THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IS POTENTIALLY A BERM ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF ALMA'S PLACE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT WOULD FLOW OVER KILLANE AND WORK TO INUNDATE THE COMMUNITY TO THE SOUTH.

THESE LITTLE INSERT PHOTOS THAT YOU HAVE ON MOST OF THESE SLIDES ARE LIGHT [INAUDIBLE] DATA.

BASICALLY THEY DEPICT THE CHANGES IN ELEVATION OR TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND.

THE MORE RED IT IS, THE WETTER IT IS.

IT'S A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

SO WHERE YOU SEE IT, RED AND YELLOW, IT'S EITHER AT SEA LEVEL OR VERY CLOSE TO IT.

SO THAT'S IT FOR THE STORMWATER PROJECTS.

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DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

YES, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

FIRST, WE HAVE MR. CHIP BLOCK AND THEN MB HAGUE.

IT'S ALMOST WORTH COMING TONIGHT TO SEE DAVE BROWN DRESSED UP.

CHIP BLOCK, 101 LIGHTHOUSE DRIVE, JUPITER INLET COLONY.

VICE MAYOR OF JUPITER INLET COLONY, CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNTY WATER RESOURCES TASK FORCE, WHICH IS THE PRINCIPAL ADVISORY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON WATER ISSUES, AND I'M COFOUNDER WITH KAREN MARCUS AND VICE PRESIDENT OF SUSTAINABLE PALM BEACH COUNTY AND FRIEND OF JUPITER.

FIRST, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE JUPITER FOR ITS EXEMPLARY PAST AND PRESENT WATER POLICIES UNDER DAVE BROWN AND HIS VERY COMPETENT TEAM. YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PROTECTING THE TOWN WATER SUPPLY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

WATER IS NOT ONLY CRITICAL FOR OBVIOUS REASONS: DRINKING, BATHING AND OTHER PERSONAL USE, BUT IT IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY.

OUR THREE MOST IMPORTANT INDUSTRIES IN PALM BEACH COUNTY: FARMING, TOURISM AND REAL ESTATE ARE TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON WATER SUPPLY AND QUALITY. NOT TO MENTION, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE DEPENDS ON WATERWAYS LIKE THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER.

YOUR INVESTMENT IN WATER SUPPLY AND QUALITY HAS PAID OFF AND ENSURING THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE YOUR EXCELLENT TRACK RECORD.

AND I URGE YOU TO DO SO.

YOU CAN AVOID THE WATER TRAGEDIES THAT HAVE BESET OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, SUCH AS WEST PALM BEACH.

YOUR INVESTMENT IN WATER SUPPLY AND QUALITY HAS PAID OFF AND ENSURING QUALITY OF LIFE.

YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE YOUR EXCELLENT TRACK RECORD AND I URGE YOU TO DO SO.

YOU CAN AVOID THE WATER TRAGEDIES, AND I THINK THAT THE STORM THAT JUST TOOK PLACE HAS SHOWN WITH EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE THE DANGER OF NOT ONLY STORM SURGE BUT VERY, VERY HEAVY RAIN, AS IF WE DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH EXAMPLES IN HOUSTON AND GALVESTON WHEN THEY HAD THE BIG HURRICANE A FEW YEARS AGO.

DRAINAGE IS CRITICAL.

PROTECTING THE WATERWAYS IS CRITICAL.

AND THE AREAS WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE WAS HARDENED, WHERE THERE ARE REDUNDANT SYSTEMS, AS DAVE WAS TALKING ABOUT, HAVE SURVIVED IN BOTH THE WEST, SOUTHWEST FLORIDA AND UP IN VOLUSIA COUNTY, WHICH WAS HIT VERY, VERY HARD BY THE THE TAIL OF IDA, MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE AREAS WITHOUT ADEQUATE DRAINAGE AND REDUNDANT WATER SYSTEMS AND HARDENED INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S WONDERFUL THAT JUPITER IS NOW SO SCRUPULOUS WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT, ALMOST FINISHED, AND ENCOURAGING GREEN SPACE.

THOSE POLICIES ARE IN KEEPING WITH YOUR DEDICATION TO WATER SUPPLY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ENSURE WATER QUALITY IN OUR WATERWAYS. THANK YOU.

MB HAGUE.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

FOR THE RECORD MB HAGUE, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF JUPITER INLET FOUNDATION.

I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE STORMWATER UTILITIES MISSION COMPONENT OF CONTROLLING THE QUALITY OF WATER FROM RUNOFF AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT WORK IS.

IF YOU GOOGLE STORMWATER RUNOFF, YOU'LL FIND THAT IT'S ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF WATER POLLUTION IN THE UNITED STATES.

WHEN THE RAIN STARTS TO POUR AND WE SEE THE WATER RUSHING DOWN TO THE STORM DRAINS, HOW MANY OF US THINK ABOUT WHAT'S IN IT AND WHERE THAT WATER ENDS UP? THAT WATER PICKS UP FERTILIZERS, PESTICIDES, YARD TRIMMINGS, DETERGENT, GREASE, OIL, HEAVY METALS FROM CARS, PAINT, BACTERIA FROM PET WASTE, SEWAGE AND SEPTIC LEAKS, DIRT DEGRADING SURFACES, SEDIMENT FROM UNSECURED CONSTRUCTION SITES, HOUSEHOLD CLEANERS AND OTHER CHEMICALS FROM HOMES AND BUSINESSES.

THEN IT MAKES ITS WAY THROUGH STORM DRAINS AND DITCHES, EVENTUALLY INTO THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER AND INTRACOASTAL.

AQUATIC PLANTS AND MARINE LIFE ARE THE WORST SUFFERERS OF POLLUTION.

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FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OUNCE OF HOUSEHOLD BLEACH REQUIRES 312,000 OUNCES OF WATER TO BE SAFE FOR FISH.

EVEN BIODEGRADABLE SOAPS CAN POSE PROBLEMS FOR AQUATIC LIFE.

IN ORDER FOR ONE OUNCE OF BIODEGRADABLE DETERGENT TO BE SAFE FOR FISH, IT NEEDS TO BE DILUTED BY ALMOST 20,000 OUNCES OF WATER.

CIGARETTE BUTTS, THE NUMBER ONE MOST LITTERED ITEM IN AMERICA, HAVE BEEN FOUND IN THE STOMACH OF FISH BIRDS MISTAKEN FOR FOOD, PROVIDING THE MEANS TO MANAGE STORMWATER RUNOFF QUALITY, ESPECIALLY NITROGEN, IS CRITICAL TO PROTECTING SEAGRASS IN THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER.

THE NUTRIENTS SPUR ALGAL BLOOMS WHICH CUT OFF LIGHT AND OXYGEN.

THE TURBIDITY CAUSED BY FLUSHING WATER AND SEDIMENT, BURY THE PLANTS AND CHANGE GROWING CONDITIONS.

DUE TO THE TOTAL DEMISE OF SEAGRASS IN THE SOUTHWEST FORK AND OTHER NOTICEABLE SEAGRASS DECLINE IN THE LAST DECADE.

WHILE THE EFFECTS OF TOTAL NITROGEN, TOTAL PHOSPHORUS CHLOROPHYL A AND FECAL BACTERIA DOCUMENTED, I'M WONDERING WHAT ARE WE MISSING? AND IF THE EFFECTS OF ROUNDUP OR OTHER CHEMICALS SHOULD ALSO BE TESTED.

WE CAN INSTALL SEAGRASS BUOYS AND GO FORWARD WITH RESTORATION PROJECTS, BUT FOR THESE EFFORTS TO WORK, THEY NEED TO BE COMBINED WITH A COMPREHENSIVE AND HOLISTIC APPROACH TO OVERALL WATER HEALTH, MAINLY BY FUNDING THE STORMWATER UTILITY PROJECTS PLAN FOR PURPOSES OF IMPROVING FLOOD PROTECTION AND WATER QUALITY TREATMENT, PLUS OTHER INITIATIVES WILL BE ABLE TO HELP PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

IN LIEU OF HURRICANE IAN AND THE STORM SURGE DEVASTATION, I HOPE THAT THE TOWN WILL INVEST, AS ASKED BY THE STORMWATER UTILITY, FOR STRUCTURAL AND NON STRUCTURAL PRACTICES.

AND I ALSO HOPE THAT THE TOWN WILL CONSIDER MAKING CHANGES IN CODES AND OTHER PLANNING TOOLS, INCLUDING GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS, IN ORDER TO PROTECT LOW LYING OR COASTAL AREAS AND REDUCE POLLUTION.

THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S IT. WELL, BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

SO WE HAD BEFORE US RESOLUTION 60-22.

AND WE HAVE FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE ANY ANY COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THE UTILITY FOR AN ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING PLAN.

I MEAN, THIS IT'S EXTREMELY THOROUGH WITH RESPECT TO WATER AND THE STORMWATER.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, BUT IF YOU GO THROUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION ON 5.4.2 ABOUT OTHER NON STRUCTURAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH SEA LEVEL RISE AND OTHER IMPACTS FROM HEAVY RAINS AND TO AVOID FLOODING.

SO I HOPE AT SOME POINT WE GET TO COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE ITEMS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSING ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POLICY WORK THAT'S SUGGESTED IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE COULD WE COULD LOOK AT.

SO I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING WE GET BACK TO.

BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO COMMEND EVERYBODY FOR AN ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING DOCUMENT.

IT'S A HEAVY READ IF ANYBODY REALLY WANTS TO SIT DOWN AND READ THEM BOTH.

BUT THERE'S QUITE INFORMATIVE AND VERY WELL WRITTEN.

SO THANK YOU. YEAH.

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE STAFF, DAVID PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER.

IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND DETAILED.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE WATER THIS SUMMER, AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK, AND I DON'T THINK THEY DUMPED ANY FRESH WATER SINCE THE SPRING.

AND THE WATER EVERYWHERE WAS CLEAR.

I MEAN, IT WAS, USUALLY LIKE IF THE TIDE'S GOING OUT, IT TAKES FOR THE HIGH TIDE, WHICH IS NICE, CLEAR WATER BACK IN.

BUT GIN CLEAR WATER WAS GOING UP PAST, IF YOU KNOW WHERE TIGRIS HOUSE IS, UP NORTHERN INTRACOASTAL FOR AT LEAST A MILE.

AND IT WAS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK UP INTO THE ISLANDS AT JUPITER.

AND I WAS HEARING REPORTS FROM FISHERMEN AND PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE WATER EVERY DAY THAT THEY SAW THE SEAGRASS IS STARTING TO COME BACK.

AND IT WAS REALLY, I WASN'T HERE IN THE OLD DAYS, BUT I GUESS IT WAS LIKE THE OLD DAYS IN JUPITER WHERE THE WATER WAS MUCH CLEARER.

AND AFTER THE STORM, BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF RUNOFF AND I THINK THEY DUMPED QUITE A BIT OF WATER FROM THE WEST, AND PLUS THE TIDES HAVING TROUBLE GETTING OUT WITH THE WINDS AND THE TIDES BEING EVERYWHERE.

IT WAS LIKE CHOCOLATE MILK.

AND IT WAS DISCOURAGING TO LOOK AT.

SO I JUST THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO CLEAN, POLISH, REDUCE ANY OF THAT, ALL THE NUTRIENTS, POLLUTANTS GOING INTO THE RIVER THAT WE CAN DO REASONABLY, WE SHOULD DO.

AND I UNDERSTAND, MAYOR, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAXING CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALL THAT.

BUT I THINK BY, AND MAYBE SOME OF THAT'S NECESSARY, BUT I THINK WE ALL BENEFIT FROM CLEANING UP THE WATER TOGETHER BECAUSE AS VICE MAYOR OF JUPITER AND [INAUDIBLE] I THINK THE WATER IS OUR LIFEBLOOD, IT'S OUR WAY OF LIFE, TOURISM.

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SO I JUST THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO NOT DISCHARGE TO DISCHARGE MINIMAL POLLUTANTS INTO THE RIVER, BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT COME BACK.

I'M GOING TO BE SHOCKED IF THEY STOP DUMPING RAIN, RAINWATER, ALL THAT TURBIDITY, HOW FAST THE LIFE WOULD JUST BOUNCE RIGHT BACK.

I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN UP IN THE BOSTON AREA.

THEY CLEANED UP BOSTON HARBOR AND IT WAS LIKE DISGUSTING.

AND NOW YOU CAN GO DOWN TO BOSTON AND CATCH STRIPED BASS OFF THE DOCK.

IT'S INCREDIBLE.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY $0.02 ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION PRIMARILY BECAUSE I'VE IDENTIFIED TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SPENDING I DON'T SUPPORT.

IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL 4 TO 1.

SO THAT'S ON THE RECORD.

I THINK THAT THE RESOLUTION TO SOME AGREE IS UNNECESSARY BECAUSE THE RECORD SHOWS THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE PROJECTS.

YOU KNOW, JUST TO CLARIFY, PUT IT IN TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

YOU KNOW, IN THE STORMWATER UTILITY, AND I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING THIS FOR YEARS, THAT I DO THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FUNDING MECHANISM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS THE INTENT WHEN THE STORMWATER UTILITY WAS FOUNDED AND IT WAS THE POLICY AND IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE.

AND I'M GOING TO EMPHASIZE THE JUPITER RIVER CANAL VEGETATIVE CLEANING AS AN EXAMPLE PROJECT.

I'VE SUPPORTED THAT ONE.

I SUPPORTED US. FIRST OF ALL, WE WERE ONLY GOING TO DO 50% OF IT.

I SUPPORTED US GOING AHEAD AND STEPPING UP AND DOING THE WHOLE THING.

BUT THAT WAS CONTINGENT UPON A MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BENEFICIAL, RIGHT? SO I'M GOING TO AGAIN SAY, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO EXPECT IT'S GOING TO COME BACK, IT'S NOT GOING TO THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT WON'T HAVE BEEN SET UP, AS I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING POLICY WISE FOR YEARS.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE CONTRACT.

WE WORK WITH THAT COMMUNITY READY TO AND AGREEABLE TO DO IT.

THEN LET'S FOLLOW THROUGH AND START USING THAT AS THE BENCHMARK OF HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE.

SO AGAIN, I'M JUST EMPHASIZING THAT I'M OKAY WITH THE PROJECT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $665,000 OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.

BUT THEN YOU EXPECT THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE REALLY BENEFITING.

I KNOW WE DO BENEFIT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE DOING THAT.

BUT THEN THEY START MAINTAINING IT.

SO THE ISSUES ON THE STORM WERE IN LARGE PART I HAVE, I THINK FUNDING SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BENEFICIARIES AS OPPOSED TO ALWAYS BEING COMPLETELY FUNDED BY EVERYBODY.

AND THEN SECONDLY, ON THE WATER SIDE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THIS TIES IN TO ANYTHING ENVIRONMENTAL, I THINK THE TIMING OF WHEN WE'RE DOING THINGS IS BEFORE IT HAD TO BE DONE, HAS TO BE DONE.

AND WE'RE JUST QUICK TO JUST THROW STUFF INTO BUDGET WHEN WE STILL ARE PURSUING OTHER COST OPTIONS THAT MAY PROVE TO BE MUCH, MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLARIFYING WHY I'M NOT SUPPORTING.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T SUPPORT A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, BUT IT'S THE TIMING OF THEM.

ANYWAY. SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION BEFORE US, 60-22.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? MOTION TO RESOLUTION 60-22.

SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 2 TO 1 WITH THE MAYOR DISSENTING.

WITH THAT, WE MOVE ON.

[8. Strategic Initiative update - removal of derelict and at-risk vessels from Jupiter’s waterways.]

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

TONIGHT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU REGARDING THE DERELICT VESSEL PORTION OF THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL REGARDING THE GREEN, BLUE AND OPEN SPACES.

BEFORE I BEGIN, I'D JUST LIKE TO INTRODUCE A FEW OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY WHO OPERATE WITHIN THE MARINE UNIT.

THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

FIRST TO MY LEFT TO YOUR RIGHT IS OFFICER PAUL GUNDLACH.

HE HAS BEEN IN THE MARINE UNIT FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS.

HIM AND HIS PARTNER, OFFICER ADAM BROWN, WHO UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, HE WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE OFFICERS WHO WAS DEPLOYED TO THE WEST COAST IN SUPPORT OF NORTHPORT, THE CITY FOR HURRICANE RELIEF.

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SERGEANT SALVEMINI WAS THE SUPERVISOR OF THE MARINE UNIT FOR THREE YEARS FROM 2019 THROUGH 2022 THIS YEAR.

AND SERGEANT BOJANOWSKI, WHO'S NEXT TO HIM, WHO IS THE CURRENT SUPERVISOR FROM [INAUDIBLE].

SO AS I SAID, THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

SO THE OBJECTIVES OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, ONE IS TO PROVIDE A DEFINITION TO YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC FOR DERELICT VESSELS, AT-RISK VESSELS AND PUBLIC NUISANCE VESSELS.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IN TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME CONFUSION AS FAR AS WHAT EXACTLY IS AND IS NOT A DERELICT VESSEL.

AND THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED IN FLORIDA STATUTE.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE REMOVAL PROCESS OF DERELICT VESSELS, WHICH IS GOVERNED BY FWC.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON SEAGRASS PROTECTION AREAS.

BLUE MOON, WHICH IS USUALLY A TOPIC OF A CONVERSATION WHEN I'M OUT IN THE PUBLIC.

PUBLIC MOORING FIELDS, WHICH HAS COME OUT AS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IN THE PUBLIC.

THE OTHER PROPORTION OF THE OF THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE REGARDING ANCHOR VESSELS AND THE MONITORING PROCESS, AS I'M CALLING IT, THAT ARMENIAN OFFICERS DO WHEN VESSELS COME INTO THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAYS OF JUPITER.

AND THEN LASTLY, GOING TO GO OVER SOME HISTORICAL DERELICT VESSELS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE WATERWAYS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

FIRST, IF YOU NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, I JUST WANT TO PAY ATTENTION, POINT OUT TO YOU WHERE IT SAYS FSS 823.11.

ON THE BOTTOM A LOT OF THESE SLIDES WILL BE REFERENCES TO EITHER FLORIDA'S STATUTES OR ADMINISTRATIVE CODES WHERE THIS INFORMATION HAS COME FROM FOR BOTH YOU AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW. SO FLORIDA STATUTE 823..11 TALKS ABOUT DERELICT VESSELS, AND IT IS DEFINED IN STATUTE AS A VESSEL THAT IS WRECKED, JUNKED OR SUBSTANTIALLY DISMANTLED IN CONDITION.

SO THE STATUTE GOES ON TO DEFINE WHAT A WRECKED, WHAT A JUNKED AND A SUBSTANTIALLY DISMANTLED VESSEL IS.

WRECK BEING A VESSEL THAT'S EITHER SUNK OR SINKING, IS WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO EXTRICATE ITSELF, WHICH MEANS IF IT TAKES ON WATER, STARTS TO SINK, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE WEIGHT OF DEEP WATER ITSELF, WHICH IS USUALLY LIKE A BILGE PUMP OR WHATNOT.

A JUNK VEHICLE IS A SUBSTANTIALLY STRIPPED OF ITS COMPONENTS, SUBSTANTIALLY DEGRADED OR DESTROYED OR DISCARDED BY THE OWNER.

AND SUBSTANTIALLY DISMANTLED HAS AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOLLOWING SYSTEMS THAT ARE EITHER MISSING, COMPROMISED AND COMPLETE, INOPERABLE OR BROKEN, AND THAT BEING THE STEERING, THE PROPULSION AND THE EXTERIOR HULL, MEANING IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLOSE AND PROTECT ITSELF FROM WEATHER.

SO BY FLORIDA STATUTE AN AT-RISK VESSEL IS DEFINED AS A VESSEL THAT IS TAKING ON WATER WITHOUT THE EFFECTIVE MEANS OF DE-WATERING.

IT IS A VESSEL THAT IS INCAPABLE OF BEING SEALED OFF FROM THE ELEMENTS AGAIN, SUCH AS RAIN.

IT IS BROKEN LOOSE OR IN DANGER OF BEING BROKEN LOOSE FROM ITS ANCHOR OR ITS ANCHORING.

IT IS LISTING DUE TO WATER INTRUSION OR WATER DOWN ON THE BULGE IN A VESSEL THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN EFFECTIVE MEANS OF PROPULSION OR SAFE NAVIGATION.

PUBLIC NUISANCE, BASICALLY IS A VESSEL THAT IS SUBJECT TO THREE OR MORE AT-RISK VIOLATIONS WITHIN AN 18 MONTH PERIOD.

AND THE CITATION HAS TO HAVE A DISPOSITION OF EITHER, EXCUSE ME, NOT OF AN ACQUITTAL OR NOT OF A DISMISSAL, MEANING IT HAS TO BE ADJUDICATED, MUCH LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO A TRAFFIC COURT AND YOU FIGHT A TICKET AND THE JUDGE SOMETIMES WILL ADJUDICATE YOU, SOMETIMES NOT.

WHAT THAT MEANS, IT'S ON YOUR RECORD OR NOT.

SO IF A CITATION IS WITHHELD BY A JUDGE, IT DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS ONE OF THE THREE VIOLATIONS.

SO THIS IS A NEW STATUTE OF FWC, WHO'S ONE OF OUR PARTNERS IN MONITORING ALL THE VESSELS ON THE WATERWAY.

AND THE PALM BEACH COUNTY STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY VESSEL BEING DECLARED A PUBLIC NUISANCE AT THIS TIME.

NOW, THIS LAW JUST WENT INTO A YEAR, SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE YEAR AND A HALF BEHIND US YET.

BUT WE ARE MONITORING, KEEPING IN CONTACT WITH THEM TO SEE HOW THIS PUBLIC NUISANCE STATUTE GOES THROUGH THE JUDICIAL REVIEW AND IF WHETHER IT'S UPHELD THROUGH TALLAHASSEE.

SO THE DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL PROCESS.

VESSELS ARE NOT AND I'VE HEARD THIS THROUGH CONVERSATION, THEY ARE NOT SIMILAR TO A VEHICLE THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

A VEHICLE ON THE SIDE OF ROAD CAN HAVE A TOW TRUCK JUST COME TAKE IT, PULL IT, PUT IT IN A STORAGE YARD IN AND THE OWNER WILL HAVE TO COME PICK IT UP.

FLORIDA STATUTE CONSIDERS A VESSEL JUST LIKE YOUR HOUSE.

AND BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT CAN SEIZE YOUR HOUSE, IT HAS TO HAVE DUE PROCESS TO THE OWNER.

SO THE FWC HAS A STANDARDIZED PROCEDURE THAT DEALS WITH PROVIDING DUE PROCESS TO AN OWNER FOR THE RIGHTS OF THEIR VESSEL BEFORE IT CAN BE REMOVED.

NOW, ONE THING ON THIS PHOTO, BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT HERE A SECOND, AS YOU NOTICE ON THE RIGHT PHOTO, THERE'S A PICTURE OF A STICKER THAT'S A RED STICKER.

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SO THE PROCESS BY WHICH A VESSEL CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE WATERWAYS THROUGH THE DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL PROCESS WITH FWC.

FIRST AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAS OBSERVED, THE VIOLATION MEAN THEY CANNOT RECEIVE A PICTURE OF IT, THEY CANNOT BE TOLD ABOUT IT.

THERE'S NO FELLOW OFFICER RULES.

SOMEONE TELLS THEM ABOUT IT.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO OUT AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT AS TO WHY THEY BELIEVE THAT VESSEL IS DERELICT.

THEY HAVE TO TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE VESSEL.

AND THIS IS THE HARD PART.

THEY HAVE TO ISSUE A CITATION, A DERELICT VESSEL NOTIFICATION LETTER AND A PACKET TO THE OWNER OF THE VESSEL.

NOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE REALIZED, THIS IS WHEN WE HAVE A VESSEL THAT IS AT-RISK OR IS BEING IS DERELICT, SOMETIMES THE OWNER IS NOT AROUND.

AND WHEN WE FIND OUT THE REGISTRATION INFORMATION ON THE VESSEL, SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT THE ACTUAL OWNER.

THE VESSEL HAS BEEN SOLD TO A SECOND PERSON OR POSSIBLY A THIRD PERSON.

SO THIS PORTION OF THE PROCESS TAKES SOME LEGWORK AND DOING THE INVESTIGATION TO FIND OUT WHO IS THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE VESSEL.

SO ONCE THOSE THREE ITEMS ARE MAILED TO THE IDENTIFIED OWNER, THAT STICKER THAT YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS PICTURE AS APPLIED TO THE VESSEL, THAT STICKER'S THEN PHOTOGRAPHED, AND THEN ALL OF THESE PHOTOGRAPHS, ALL THIS INFORMATION'S PAPERWORK IS UPLOADED TO THE SEAT OF FLORIDA'S DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL COMPUTER AND THEN BEGINS A 21 OR A 45 DAY COUNT.

NOW, THE REASON THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS DEPENDING ON WHAT WAS CAUSING THE VESSEL TO BECOME DERELICT, IF IT WAS INVOLVED IN A CRASH OR A HURRICANE, IT'S A DIFFERENT CONSIDERATION OR TIME FRAME AS WHETHER IT WAS JUST ABANDONED OR BECAME SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE ELEMENTS OR WHATNOT.

EITHER WAY, DURING THAT 21 OR 45 DAY TIME PERIOD, THE OFFICER WILL GO OUT AND START OBTAINING QUOTES, ASSUMING THAT THE CASE WILL BE APPROVED THROUGH THE DUE PROCESS.

THOSE QUOTES ARE OBTAINED FROM A COMPANY AND I HAVE A SLIDE HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S SO COMPLICATED.

BUT THEY RECEIVE THE QUOTES THEY OBTAINED OR IDENTIFY THE APPROPRIATE FUNDING.

NOW, THE STATE OF FLORIDA DOES PROVIDE FOR FUNDING FOR REMOVAL OF DERELICT VESSELS.

THE STATE PROVIDES EACH COUNTY ALONG THE WATERWAYS THAT FUNDING, AND THEN THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE ALLOWED TO APPLY TO THE COUNTY TO RECEIVE THOSE PROCEEDS . IF THAT FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE, MEANING TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, THERE IS NO FUNDS LEFT, OR FUNDS ARE DIVERTED FROM ONE COUNTY TO ANOTHER COUNTY FOR HURRICANE OR ONE COUNTY HAS HAD SUCCESSIVE DERELICT VESSELS.

THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS WHERE WE'VE USED OUR GENERAL FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE REMOVAL OF A COUPLE OF VESSELS, BUT EITHER WAY THE IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCES ARE CREATED AND THEN A SCHEDULE IS MADE TO REMOVE THE VESSEL.

AT THE END OF THE 21 OR 45 DAYS, IF THE OWNER OF THE VESSEL DOES NOT REQUEST A COURT HEARING, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN PHYSICALLY REMOVE THE VESSEL FROM THE WATERWAYS. SO THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF A VESSEL.

THE VESSEL'S NAME IS DIFFERENT CONCEPT.

IT HAD ACTUALLY SUNK IN THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY, JUST SOUTH OF THE INDIANTOWN ROAD BRIDGE.

SO THE SALVAGE COMPANY THAT REMOVES THE VESSELS ACTUALLY SUBCONTRACTS OUT A LOT OF THEIR WORK.

SO THE SALVAGE COMPANY WILL HIRE A BARGE, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED IN BOTH OF THESE PHOTOGRAPHS.

THEY SUBCONTRACT WITH THE CRANE COMPANY WHERE THEY PUT ONE, TWO OR MULTIPLE CRANES ON THE BARGE.

THEY THEN SUBCONTRACT WITH A COMPANY THAT PROVIDES FOR SALVAGE DIVERS AND THEN THEY COORDINATE ALL OF THAT COMING TOGETHER AND THEN THEY WILL REMOVE THE VESSEL.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS.

SO THEY TYPICALLY WILL NOT COME OUT JUST FOR ONE VESSEL.

HISTORICALLY., THEY WILL WAIT UNTIL THEY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE, SIX OR MORE VESSELS TO BE REMOVED.

THEY WILL COORDINATE WITH THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS.

THEY WILL START TO MAKE THIS UP IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, REMOVE ONE OR TWO VESSELS, COME DOWN INTRACOASTAL OF MARTIN COUNTY, REMOVE SOME VESSELS, COME DOWN TO JUPITER, DOWN THROUGH PALM BEACH COUNTY.

AND AS YOU SEE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH, SPECIFICALLY THE PHOTOGRAPH ON THE RIGHT, THERE'S ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN VESSELS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THAT BARGE.

SO THAT CONCLUDES THE VESSEL REMOVAL PROCESS AS GOVERNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I JUST WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THE SEAGRASS SCARRING.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING SEAGRASS SCARRING.

BASICALLY FLORIDA STATUTE DEFINES SCARRING AS A PERSON WHO'S OPERATING A VESSEL OUTSIDE THE LAWFULLY MARKED CHANNELS IN A CALLOUS MANNER THAT BASICALLY WILL DESTROY EITHER THE SEAGRASS ROOTS, SHOOTS OR STEMS BY MEANS OF THE PROPELLER.

NOW, I CAN TELL YOU, IN SPEAKING WITH THE OFFICERS BEHIND ME, WE HAVE NOT HAD A SITUATION WHERE ANYBODY HAS DESTROYED SEAGRASS BY MEANS OF THE PROPULSION.

IN FACT, WE GET A LOT OF VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE THAT IF SOMEONE IS IN THAT AREA, THEY IMMEDIATELY MOVE.

THEY DON'T TEND TO BE IN THERE.

SO IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE A CITATION FOR SEAGRASS SCARRING.

HOWEVER, THE FINES ARE UP THERE.

IF SOMEONE IS FOUND TO BE DAMAGING THE SEAGRASS, THEIR FIRST CITATION IS $50.

IF THEY'RE ADJUDICATED GUILTY, THE SECOND CITATION WITHIN 12 MONTHS WOULD BE $250, $500 FOR THREE WITHIN 36 MONTHS OR $1,000 FOR FOUR

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BUT THE KEYWORD THERE WAS PROPELLER.

THE KEYWORD WAS YOU HAD TO HAVE A PROPELLER SCAR.

IT WOULD BE DAMAGED BY THE PROPELLER, BUT THE PROPELLER IS THE LOWEST PORTION OF THE VESSEL IN THE WATER.

SO IF THE PROPELLER DIDN'T HIT THE REST OF THE VESSEL NORMALLY WOULDN'T HIT IT.

SO THERE ARE A FEW AREAS WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER WATERWAYS.

I'M ONLY GOING TO IDENTIFY TWO OF THEM, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL.

AND THESE ARE THE TWO LARGER OR THE MORE POPULAR ONES.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE PHOTOGRAPH ON THE RIGHT, IS JUST OUTSIDE BURT REYNOLDS PARK, IT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE THE LAUNCHES.

AND IF YOU CAN TELL FROM THE PHOTOGRAPH, THERE'S A LIGHT GREEN AREA THAT'S SORT OF IN A CIRCLE WITH THAT BLUE LINE THAT'S POINTING TO IT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SEAGRASS AREA.

AND THEN THE REST OF THE WAY IS JUST THE NAVIGABLE CHANNEL.

ALSO IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH, YOU NOTICE FOUR OR FIVE BOATS THAT ARE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ARROW.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ANCHORING OUTSIDE OF THE SEAGRASS AREA.

THE SIGN ON THE LEFT IS ONE OF THE CAUTIONARY SIGNS THAT'S MOUNTED.

NOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES, BUT THAT'S ONE IS THE SPECIFICALLY TO THE ONE THAT'S IN THAT AREA.

AND CAUTIONARY SIGNS ARE USUALLY INSTALLED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AFTER APPLICATION.

AND I BELIEVE THE MOST RECENT ONES ARE THE JUPITER INLET FOUNDATION HAS APPLIED FOR A FEW OF THEM.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS ANOTHER LARGER AREA THAT WE HAVE.

THIS IS RIGHT INSIDE THE INTRACOASTAL, AND IT'S JUST NORTH OF THE JUPITER INLET CONDOS, AND THAT IS THAT LARGE GREEN AREA THAT'S KIND OF OBLONG IN NATURE THAT RUNS ALONG THE SHORELINE. AND YOU SEE THERE'S ONE VESSEL THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

THAT'S THE BLUE MOON. I'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.

BUT THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS NOT ACTUALLY THE BUOY THAT'S IN THAT AREA.

THAT BUOY IS ACTUALLY FROM SEA GRASS.

BUT I WANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CAUTIONARY MARKERS THAT ARE USED OUT IN THE WATERWAYS.

SO, NOT AS MUCH RECENTLY, BUT IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BLUE MOON.

THE BLUE MOON IS NOT A DERELICT VESSEL.

IT'S NOT AN AT-RISK VESSEL AND IT IS CURRENTLY AND PREVIOUSLY NOT SUBJECT TO REMOVAL.

NOW, THE MARINE UNIT OFFICERS HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ISSUED A CITATION FOR BLOCKING THE NAVIGABLE CHANNEL TO THE OWNER OF THE VESSEL.

HOWEVER, HE SUCCESSFULLY FOUGHT THAT IN COURT AND THE JUDGE THREW THE CITATION OUT, SAYING THAT IT WAS NOT BLOCKING, IN HIS OPINION, THE NAVIGABLE WATERWAYS.

HOWEVER, OVER THE YEARS, THAT VESSEL HAS RECEIVED 16 DIFFERENT CITATIONS FOR MINOR VIOLATIONS, SUCH AS ANCHORING LIGHTS AND ANCHORING AREAS AND WHATNOT.

CLEARLY, WE KNOW THE OWNER VERY WELL, AND AS OF LATE, HE'S BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE WITH US.

IF WE IDENTIFY AN ISSUE, HE CORRECTS IT OR HE MOVES THE VESSEL OR HE PAYS THE CITATION.

SOMETHING ELSE TO NOTE, THAT NONE OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT HE HAS BEEN ISSUED WOULD AUTHORIZE THE SEIZURE OR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE VESSEL.

HOW OLD IS THAT PHOTOGRAPH? HOW OLD IS THAT PHOTOGRAPH? TWO YEARS? ONE YEAR? I BELIEVE IT WAS 2021.

YEAH. IN FACT, I BELIEVE I TOOK THAT PHOTOGRAPH AS WELL AS THE ONE FROM THE 706 BRIDGE.

SO SOMETHING ELSE TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ON IT, FLORIDA STATUTE REGARDING DERELICT.

IF A VESSEL DURING LOW TIDE TOUCHES THE BOTTOM OF THE INLET, THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED DERELICT AT-RISK BECAUSE ONCE THE TIDE COMES BACK IN, IT RIGHTS ITSELF.

SO ON THOSE TIMES WHERE WE HAVE REALLY SUPER LOW TIDES AND IT DOES TOUCH, AS SOON AS IT GOES BACK UP, THERE'S NO VIOLATION OF LAW THERE.

SO THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PUBLIC MOORING FIELDS.

FIRST THING I WANT TO JUST KIND OF PREFACE THIS WITH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MARITIME PLANNING AND ZONING EXPERTS.

HOWEVER, WE DID DO OUR RESEARCH AND WE SPECIFICALLY REFER TO FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE REGARDING THE CREATION OF PUBLIC MOORING FIELDS.

AND WHAT WE GLEANED FROM THAT IS BASICALLY THAT A MOORING FIELD MUST BE, IF IT'S CREATED IN COMBINATION WITH A LAND BASED SUPPORT FACILITY AND THAT LAND SUPPORT FACILITIE IS DEFINED IN STATUTE AS HAVING A PLATFORM OR A LAUNCH WHERE SOMEBODY CAN TRAVERSE FROM THEIR BOAT TO LAND AND BACK BY MEANS OF A SMALL BOAT OR A DINGHY OR WHATNOT.

IT HAS TO PROVIDE FOR BATHROOMS, SHOWERS AND A LAUNDRY FACILITY.

IT WOULD NEED TO HAVE A PARKING AREA THAT IS ROUGHLY A SIMILAR SIZE TO THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY BE UTILIZING THE MOORING FIELD.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PUMP OUT STATION.

NOW, A PUMP STATION CAN EITHER BE FIXED OR ON A BOAT.

IT HAS TO BE PUBLICIZED AT TIMES AND IT HAS AGAIN BE THE SIZE CONSISTENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF VESSELS AND THE SIZE OF THE VESSELS THAT WOULD UTILIZE THE FIELD.

THE FIELD WOULD NEED TO BE DREDGED YEAR AFTER YEAR TO ENSURE THAT IT MAINTAINED A SPECIFIC DEPTH TO ACCOUNT FOR THE BOATS OR THE SIZES OF THE VESSELS THAT ARE WITHIN THE WATER. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF APPROVALS, BOTH FROM THE STATE AND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR CREATING OF A MOORING FIELD.

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SO YOU CAN'T JUST PUT A MOORING FIELD IN AN AREA AND YOU CAN ONLY HOOK UP TO THE BUOY, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR ANCHORING AROUND THE MOORING FIELD ALSO.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE ON THE LEFT IS A PHOTO OF WHAT A BUOY LOOKS LIKE.

TYPICALLY WITHIN A MOORING FIELD THEY START OUT WITH ON THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN OR THE WATER.

THERE IS A ANCHOR OR SOME KIND OF CONCRETE BLOCK WITH A CHAIN ATTACHED TO IT.

AND THEN THERE'S TWO BUOYS THAT ARE ON THE WATER, A SMALLER ONE AND A LARGER ONE.

AND THE WAY IT WORKS IS A VESSEL WILL COME UP TO THE BUOY.

THEY WILL GRAB THE SMALLER ONE, PULL UP TO THE BIGGER ONE, AND THEY'LL TIE THEIR ANCHOR LINE TO THE LARGER BUOY AND BASICALLY FLOAT THERE THROUGHOUT THE TIME.

THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT, ALTHOUGH THIS IS A VERY LARGE MOORING FIELD, WHAT THIS INTENTION IS TO DO IS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE MOORING FIELD HAS THOSE DINGHIES AND DOCK AREA FOR THE LAUNCH, AND IT HAS A FACILITY WHICH, I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE PERSONALLY, BUT CLEARLY IT LOOKS LIKE A PARKING AREA AND PROBABLY THE BATHROOM, THE SHOWERS AND WHATNOT THAT ARE REQUIRED BY STATUTE.

SO I ASKED, I BELIEVE IT WAS ACTUALLY OFFICER GUNDLACH, IF HE WOULD, HIM AND OFFICER BROWN, WOULD CREATE A PHOTO REPRESENTATION OF WHAT A PROPORTIONATELY SIZED BUOY FIELD WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WERE PLACED IN JUPITER.

SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY TOOK THIS PHOTOGRAPH, AND THIS IS BASICALLY INDIANTOWN ROAD, SOUTH OF THE BRIDGE AND WEST OF US 1, AND THEY CREATED TWO DIFFERENT MOORING FIELDS WITH VESSELS AND PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN FROM ANOTHER FIELD, AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THERE WERE, WHAT SIZE WOULD ACCOMMODATE HOW MANY VESSELS WITHIN THAT FIELD.

SO YOU CAN SEE YOU COULD ROUGHLY ACCOMMODATE FOUR VESSELS NORTH OF THE ISLAND OR YOU COULD DO FOUR SOUTH OF THE ISLAND.

HOWEVER, CLEARLY THIS DOES NOT HAVE ANY LAND BASED SUPPORT FACILITY.

SO THIS WOULD NOT BE A LOCATION THAT WE WOULD SUGGEST, IT'S JUST A PHOTO REPRESENTATION OF SIZE.

SO THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT THING THAT WE DID STARTING BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2017 OR 2018, WE CREATED AN ANCHORING VESSEL MONITORING PROCESS.

SO THE INTENTION OF THIS IS TO MONITOR VESSELS THAT COME INTO THE TOWN OF JUPITER WATERWAYS AND ANCHOR FOR SOME SORT OF EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

SO WHILE OUR OFFICERS ARE ON PATROL, IF THEY SEE A VESSEL THAT IS ANCHORED FOR A DAY OR TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS, THEY WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH THE FOLKS ON THE VESSEL. THEY'LL TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE VESSEL.

THEY'LL DOCUMENT THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUALS, THE REGISTRATION INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE VESSEL.

THEY'LL TALK TO THEM IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF VIOLATIONS OR WHATNOT.

AND THE INTENT HERE IS IF THAT VESSEL WERE TO, SAY, SOME EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME AND SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO IT, SUCH AS IT WERE, TO BREAK ANCHOR OR START TO SINK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD KNOW WHERE TO START TO TRY AND CONTACT SOMEBODY TO CORRECT IT BEFORE IT ACTUALLY SUNK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN.

OR IF SOMEBODY WERE TO ABANDON IT, WE WOULD KNOW WHERE TO START OUR INVESTIGATION TO CREATE OR TO START THE DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL PROCESS.

SO ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, IF YOU NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, THERE'S TWO PHOTOGRAPHS THERE.

BOTH THE OFFICERS CREATE A QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE POST ON THE TOWN OF JUPITER'S WEBSITE, UNDERNEATH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UNDERNEATH THE MARINE UNIT WHERE WE POST ALL THE INFORMATION OF ALL THE VESSELS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ANCHORED WITHIN THE TOWN OF JUPITER WATERWAYS.

YOU SEE THE PHOTO, YOU SEE THE NAMES UNDERNEATH OF THE PHOTOS, THE LOCATION AND THE WHOLE NUMBERS.

AND THEN ON THE LEFT, WHAT WE DO IS WE DOCUMENT ANY CITATIONS THAT WE ISSUE.

WE FOLLOW THEM THROUGH COURT, THROUGH DISPOSITION.

THAT WAY, WE'RE NOT ONLY KEEPING TRACK OF IT, BUT WE'RE LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW WE KNOW THAT VESSELS OUT THERE, WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITION IS.

NOW, NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE VIOLATIONS.

THIS ONE HAD OR BOTH OF THESE HAD TWO CITATIONS.

THAT'S IN THE YELLOW. BUT THESE, AND THIS IS GOING TO RUN AUTOMATICALLY.

BUT JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE VESSELS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE WATERWAYS.

THIS IS THE MEANS BY WHICH WE, AGAIN, DOCUMENT THE VESSELS, HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION TO THEM WHEN WE HAVE TO DO A CITATION OR LORD FORBID A DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL. THIS IS WHERE WE START OUR INVESTIGATION AND WE WORK WITH FWC IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT I JUST EXPLAINED.

SO SINCE 2020, WE HAVE REMOVED 21 VESSELS FROM THE WATERWAYS WITH JUPITER.

NINE OF THEM WENT THROUGH THE FULL DERELICT VESSEL PROCESS AND WERE ACTUALLY REMOVED BY CRANES AND SALVAGE COMPANIES.

OTHER ONES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, AT SOME POINT EITHER CORRECTED THE ISSUE THAT THEY HAD THAT PUT THEM AS AT-RISK OR DERELICT, OR THEY JUST CONTINUE TO MOVE ON.

SO THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION REGARDING THE DERELICT VESSELS AND THE DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL PROCESS.

AND AS I SAID, WE HAVE STAFF HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS.

JUST TO KICK THIS OFF, NUMBER ONE, FOR THOSE OF THE PUBLIC, SOMETIMES I'M JUST USED TO HAVING THE SAME PEOPLE COME, SO I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE

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THEN WE DO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WE DON'T GET INTO DISCUSSION, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK FOR COUNCIL.

SO I'M GOING TO, BUT BEFORE I TURN TO MY COLLEAGUES, I WON'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M ACTUALLY READING FROM THE WORDS THAT A RESIDENT WROTE US ALL IN THE COUNCIL TODAY, AND SHE JUST SAID, JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TENACITY AND DILIGENCE HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT POSITIVE IMPACT ON JUPITER'S WATERWAY.

SO TRUE.

I MEAN, WOW.

I LIKE IT. I LOVE IT THAT YOU HAVE EMBRACED, THIS TEAM HAS EMBRACED THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE.

SO THRILLED.

NOW, I WANTED TO PREFACE THE QUESTIONS NOW TO JUST SAY, OKAY, THIS STUFF AND I KNOW THIS STUFF THAT I WANT TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT IS BEYOND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PREFACE THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DIG RIGHT INTO QUESTIONS AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THE GOOD WORK MAY MISINTERPRET LIKE WE'RE FINDING FAULT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WELL, OF COURSE THANK YOU FOR, MAKING THE EFFORT TO HELP CLEAN THIS UP, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A REAL CONCERN TO THE RESIDENTS.

AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A FABULOUS JOB.

ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS, DID YOU LOOK AT THE ANCHORING LIMITATION ZONES, ANCHORING LIMITED ZONES AS A AS ANOTHER WAY OF TRYING TO PROTECT AREAS THAT HAVE SEAGRASS OR OTHERWISE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE SINCE THE MOORING FIELDS WERE REALLY NOT PRACTICAL.

AND THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE WATERWAY FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT FOR.

THE AREAS ALSO HAVE TO BE OF A CERTAIN SIZE, AND A LOT OF OUR AREAS OUTSIDE THE NAVIGABLE CHANNELS ARE RATHER SMALL IN NATURE.

RIGHT. DID YOU, IN LOOKING AT HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, DID YOU COME ACROSS ANY OTHER TOOLS THAT MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT AS A WAY TO TRY TO TO COMBAT THIS? REGARDING ANCHORING? YEAH, THE ANCHORING AND THE COLLECTION OF THE BOATS THAT ARE MAYBE NOT TECHNICALLY DERELICT, BUT CERTAINLY HAVE ISSUES OR EITHER FROM THE BOAT THEMSELVES OR THE PLACEMENT.

SO ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES IS THAT THE WATERWAYS ARE ACTUALLY GOVERNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVES THE STATES THE AUTHORITY TO GOVERN THEM.

AND THE STATE HAS PREEMPTED MUNICIPALITIES FROM CREATING ANY LAWS THAT GOVERN VESSELS.

SO WHAT THE STATE HAS ENACTED, ALLOWED, IF YOU WILL, IS THAT UNLESS IT IS THE NAVIGABLE CHANNEL, VESSELS ARE ALLOWED TO ANCHOR OUTSIDE THE NAVIGABLE CHANNEL.

THANK YOU.

GUYS, YOU CAN BLAME ME FOR THIS BECAUSE THIS WAS ONE OF MY INITIATIVES BACK IN 16 OR 17, SO SORRY FOR ALL THE EXTRA WORK.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LIST OF BOATS HERE AND THE RED TAPE AND THE PAPERWORK, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN BECAUSE THIS IS NO EASY FEAT.

I MEAN, IT'S BRUTAL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN AS I'M OUT IN THE WATER, I [INAUDIBLE] ON THE WATER TODAY, EVEN AROUND BURT REYNOLDS.

AND I SENT THE TOWN MANAGER A PICTURE OF A BOAT I SAW YESTERDAY.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY TWO BOATS THERE.

THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SAILBOAT IN CLOSER TO SHORE OR NOT.

BUT THAT AREA IS CLEANED UP.

HAVE YOU GOTTEN A LOT OUT OF THERE, TOO? YES, WE HAVE. SO, STARTING BACK IN, LET'S SAY HURRICANE FRANCES, JEANNE, WILMA, A LOT OF VESSELS WENT DOWN AND THE STATE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD PROCESS FOR REMOVING THEM. PLUS, THERE WERE SO MANY VESSELS OVER DADE, BROWARD, PALM BEACH AND COUNTIES THAT IT WAS JUST NOT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO MANAGE IT.

SO IT TOOK A VERY LONG TIME TO SORT OF CLEAN THAT AREA UP, PROVIDE A SOLID FUNDING SOURCE TO EACH COUNTY TO DISTRIBUTE WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY.

AND THEN FWC, I BELIEVE, STARTING IN 2017, CREATED THEIR DERELICT VESSEL REMOVAL PROTOCOL AND THEY HAVE A MARITIME ATTORNEY AND THEY HAVE A MARITIME COURT AND THEY HAVE REALLY STREAMLINED THAT. SO WE'VE WORKED VERY WELL WITH THEM.

NOW THEY HAVE A DOCK UP HERE AND THEY'RE STATIONED OUT OF HERE.

SO WE HAVE A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

SO IT DID TAKE A LONG TIME TO REMOVE MANY VESSELS THAT WE HAVE TO THE POINT NOW WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DERELICT VESSELS, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY AT-RISK VESSELS.

AND AS SOON AS SOMETHING BECOMES DERELICT BECAUSE WE HAVE THEIR INFORMATION, WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO THEM VERY EARLY ON IT.

AND THEN IF THERE IS ABANDONED VESSEL, ALTHOUGH I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME, IT ACTUALLY GOES VERY EXPEDITIOUSLY THROUGH A LONGER PROCESS THAN WE WANT.

RIGHT. JUPITER POINT, FWC, IS THAT WHAT THEY DONE?

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SO IF YOU'RE ON US-1 AND YOU GO WEST ON MARCINSKI.

YEAH. THEIR STATION IS RIGHT THERE BY THE WATER.

OKAY. AND BACK TO THE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS.

WHAT WAS THE COST TO MOVE THAT SAILBOAT, DO YOU KNOW? COULD YOU PIN THAT DOWN OR BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A FORTUNE TO GET A BARGE JUST TO A SITE, BUT I KNOW YOU SAID THEY KIND OF PIGGYBACK WITH OTHER PROJECTS? THAT BOAT WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH YEAH. IT'S UP THERE.

SO THAT ONE WAS 25,000.

THE ONE THAT CAME UP ON THE BEACH WAS AROUND $6,000.

SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU, ONE SUNK TO THE BOTTOM.

IT WAS THERE AND ONE WAS ON THE BEACH THAT NEEDED TO BE PULLED OFF THE BEACH.

RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT ONE SUNK ONCE IT GOT DOWN TO THE OCEAN.

SO IT ACTUALLY HAD TO BE EXTRICATED TWICE.

THAT WAS ABOUT FIVE, $6,000 VERSUS 25,000.

THAT SAILBOAT THAT WAS NEAR THE INDIAN TOWN, THAT WAS A PRETTY BIG BOAT.

YES, IT WAS. HAD A REALLY STOUT MOUNT.

IT WAS ABOUT 30 FOOT, 40 FOOT.

IT WAS PRETTY BIG. IT WAS AROUND 20, AT LEAST 25 FEET.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU.

GREAT JOB. SO.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS I WANT TO THROW OUT THERE.

I THINK TO SOME DEGREE IT'LL PUNCH LIST SOME DISCUSSION WE MIGHT HAVE AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

BUT I SAY IT SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE HAD SPECIFIC ACTION PLANS.

SO ONE OF THE, NUMBER TWO WAS, AND I'M REALLY GOING TO THE POINT THAT COMMISSIONER THAT COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER HAD TOUCHED ON, WAS WE WANTED TO REVIEW TOWN CODES TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVISION OR ADOPTION.

SO THAT'S AN ITEM WASN'T SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE PRESENTATION.

I DON'T SAY IT AS A CRITICISM, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, I THINK.

AND BECAUSE IN FACT THEY FALL UNDER SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WE GOT FROM THE PUBLIC AND MAY HEAR FURTHER.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NUMBER FOUR WAS TO EVALUATE WHETHER CREATING AN ANCHORING LIMITATION AREA AND YOU KNOW, WAS TO EXPLORE THAT.

SO I'M HEARING MAYBE WE CAN'T DO THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE STILL WANT TO, WE MAY WANT TO GET A SECOND OPINION ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT.

THAT'S NOT FINDING ANY FAULT WITH THE OPINION, RIGHT.

BUT WE REALLY WANT TO BE AS PROACTIVE AS WE CAN.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I PREFACED IT WITH WE'RE NOT THE PLANNING AND ZONING SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW OF THEM HERE, BUT, AGAIN, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ONLY THE COUNCIL IS EMPOWERED TO DO, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT, BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

IT'S PART OF THE INITIATIVE HERE.

SO NUMBER ONE, I'LL STATE I DON'T WANT TO PURSUE THE INSTALLATION OF A MOORING FIELD.

YOU DIDN'T IMPLY THAT, BUT TO THE DEGREE IT WAS DISCUSSED.

YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT PERHAPS WE COULD ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL VESSELS FROM OVERNIGHT ANCHORING.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT HAD BEEN POINTED OUT THAT THERE'S ONE SUCH COMMERCIAL BOAT OUT THERE THAT'S CURRENTLY HAS A BAIT PLATFORM AND SIX BAIT PENS, AND IT'S PERMANENTLY ANCHORED IN THE INLET.

AND IF YOU ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF WE WERE TO CONCLUDE THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT IT AND COULD ENACT THAT LEGISLATION, IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU COULD START ATTRACTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER COMMERCIAL USES.

SO I'M KIND OF, AGAIN, I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE RESIDENT HERE THAT I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO TALK ABOUT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT OVERNIGHT STORAGE OF KAYAKS AND DINGHIES ALONG OUR SHORELINE. AND WHAT OCCURS TO ME IS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALONG RIVERWALK, THERE'S A HOUSE, THERE'S A FEW VESSELS, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN SEE.

AND IT'S AT LEAST MY PERCEPTION WHEN I WALK BY THERE, THERE'S BIKES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CHAINED TO THE RIVERWALK FENCE.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE LANDING AREA FOR THAT HOUSEBOAT.

SO IF WE ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN, WHAT HAVE WE DONE? WE'RE JUST ENCOURAGING, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU KNOW, THE PERSON, YOU KNOW, TO CONTINUE TO STAY IN THAT AREA BECAUSE WE'RE AGAIN, WE'RE YEAH, YOU CAN BE OUT THERE AND YOU CAN ALSO, YEAH, TAKE SOME OF THIS PUBLIC PROPERTY OVER HERE.

AND YOU KNOW, SO I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER TO DISCOURAGE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

AND THEN I WAS REALLY ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THE CHIEF SAY THAT THE OWNER OF THE BLUE MOON SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE

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I WAS THRILLED TO HEAR THAT.

BUT I'M KIND OF SKEPTICAL ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION STILL REMAINS TO BE THAT, AT LEAST TO ME, THAT IT NEVER HAS DEMONSTRATED ANY CONCERN FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND THAT'S WHY I STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SOMEHOW ENCOURAGE HIM TO MOVE ALONG IF WE CAN.

SO WITH THAT AND I WAS PUNCHED LISTING BECAUSE WHEN WE COME BACK, IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THOSE, WE WOULD TAKE EITHER NOW OR WE COULD DO IT WHEN OTHERS ARE HERE.

BUT WITH THAT, I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT WE ARE OPEN TO, I THINK YOU PROBABLY SAW SOME NODS HERE, TO DOING SOME ORDINANCES IF IT TURNS OUT WE CONCLUDE WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND IT WOULD MAKE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE.

SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE I THINK WE HAD AT LEAST ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

YES, WE HAVE THREE.

FIRST IS ALYSSA FREEMAN.

THEN AFTER ALYSSA IS BILL KELLY.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS ALYSSA FREEMAN.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE MARINE INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION OF PALM BEACH COUNTY.

OUR ADDRESS IS 1208 US HIGHWAY 1 IN NORTH PALM BEACH.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK YOU ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THIS INITIATIVE.

WE ALL WANT TO SEE THESE BOATS REMOVED FROM THE WATER, THESE DERELICT VESSELS.

THERE WAS ONE THING I DID WANT TO BRING UP, AND THAT IS SOMETHING I DIDN'T HEAR, AND THAT IS THAT FWC RECENTLY APPROVED A VESSEL TURN IN PROGRAM JUST OVER THE SUMMER. AND SO THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE FOR DERELICT VESSELS, BUT THAT WILL BE FOR THE AT-RISK VESSELS.

SO THE ELIGIBILITY IS ALL OWNERS OF VESSELS UPON THE WATERS OF THE STATE WHO HAVE BEEN CITED OR ISSUED A WRITTEN WARNING FOR VESSELS AT-RISK OF BECOMING DERELICT.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I HIGHLIGHTED ABOUT THE PROGRAM, IT SAYS THAT IT WILL OPERATE UNTIL AVAILABLE FUNDING HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED.

I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THE FUNDING IS CURRENTLY, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO.

AND AGAIN, THE VESSEL WILL HAVE TO BE FLOATING, NOT CONSIDERED DERELICT AT-RISK, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP WITH THOSE EXPENSES OF REMOVING THOSE VESSELS.

THE OWNER ESSENTIALLY TURNS OVER THE TITLE AND AND THEN THE STATE COVERS THE COST OF EVERYTHING.

SO IT'S JUST AN EASIER WAY FOR SOMEBODY TO HAND OVER THEIR TITLE, WRITE JUNK ACROSS IT.

AND IT'S HOPEFULLY EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.

AND THEN ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT THE ASSOCIATION IN GENERAL SUPPORTS MANAGED MOORING FIELDS.

I KNOW THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE REALISTIC IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER, BUT PLEASE, AS DISCUSSIONS MOVE FORWARD ON ANY OF THIS, KEEP US IN THE LOOP, USE THIS AS A RESOURCE FOR ANYTHING.

AND FINALLY, JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PALM BEACH HOLIDAY BOAT PARADE.

SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BILL KELLY. AFTER BILL KELLY IS CRAIG MOWERY.

MY NAME IS BILL KELLY, AND I HEARD ABOUT THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE TONIGHT REGARDING THE DERELICT BOATS, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS IT. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF LIVING ACROSS THE WATERWAY FROM BLUE MOON.

I GET UP EVERY MORNING AND I SEE BLUE MOON.

I GO TO BED AT NIGHT AND THERE'S BLUE MOON.

AND TO SAY THAT THE BOAT IS NOT DERELICT, MAYBE THE BOAT ISN'T DERELICT, BUT MAYBE THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES ON THE BOAT IS DERELICT.

THERE IS NO REGISTRATION.

HE DOES NOT HAVE REGISTRATION FOR THE BOAT.

NO REGISTRATION NUMBER IS ON THE BOAT.

HE CAN'T GET REGISTRATION FOR THE BOAT BECAUSE HE'S NOT THE OWNER.

HE DOESN'T HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THAT BOAT.

HE'S LIVING ON THAT BOAT.

HE'S LIVED THERE NOW FOR EIGHT YEARS.

NO REGISTRATION, NO OWNERSHIP.

HE COMES AND GOES AS HE PLEASES.

IT COULD BE 3:00 IN THE MORNING AND HE COULD COME WANDERING THROUGH THE PARK, GETS IN HIS DINGHY, ROWS TO THE BLUE MOON.

IF HE'S NOT DRUNK ENOUGH, WHERE HE CAN'T FIND BLUE MOON, THEN HE RUNS AROUND ROWING THE BOAT, YELLING, SCREAMING OBSCENITIES TILL HE FINALLY FINDS THE BOAT AND FALLS ON TO THE BOAT.

THE SAILS HAVE NOT BEEN UNFURLED SINCE THE DAY THE BOAT LANDED THERE.

THE ENGINE HAS NOT BEEN STARTED SINCE THE BOAT LANDED THERE.

SO HE HAS NO PROPULSION WHATSOEVER ON THAT BOAT.

THE BOAT HAS BROKEN LOOSE TWICE IN STORMS FROM ANCHORAGE.

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I DON'T WANT TO BE CURT OR WHATEVER, BUT THE BOAT HAS NEVER HAD ANY SORT OF SANITATION THERE.

IT'S NEVER BEEN PUMPED.

HE LIVES ON THE BOAT DAY IN, DAY OUT, AND THE PUMP HAS NEVER BEEN PUMPED.

HE HAS AN ORANGE HOME DEPOT BUCKET.

THAT'S HIS SANITATION.

AND YOU HAD ANOTHER SLIDE UP HERE WHICH TALKED ABOUT SCARRING OF THE GRASS, WHICH WE HAVE THE THE CONES IN THE WATER RIGHT UP TO BLUE MOON, BUT NOT PAST BLUE MOON, BECAUSE THERE IS NO SEA GRASS, BECAUSE THE CHAINS THAT HE HAS THAT SIT ON THE OCEAN, ON THE INLET FLOOR, EVERY TIME THE BOAT IS MOVING THOSE, WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY'RE DOING? WELL, THAT GRASS ISN'T SCARRED.

THAT GRASS IS GONE.

SO TO SAY THAT THE BOAT ISN'T THAT DERELICT BOAT, I WANTED TO COME TONIGHT AND SEE THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I HAVE DAY IN AND DAY OUT EXPERIENCE WITH IT.

AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE MORE BOAT ADDED TO THAT LIST.

THANK YOU.

CRAIG MOWERY. GOOD EVENING, CRAIG MOWERY, 230 BLANCA ISLES LANE [INAUDIBLE].

I ALSO WANTED TO HEAR THAT PRESENTATION.

WE ARE UP AND DOWN LOXAHATCHEE RIVER AND THE INTRACOASTAL, THAT AREA A LOT.

SO I'VE WATCHED OVER THE YEARS SOME OF THOSE BOATS, THAT SAILBOAT THAT WAS JUST SOUTH OF INDIANTOWN ROAD.

IT USED TO BE A JOKE THAT WE WOULD TAKE VISITORS OUT ON OUR BOAT AND SHOW THEM THE CURRENT DERELICT VESSEL.

SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE MANY OF THOSE REMOVED.

BUT THE ISSUE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND THE REASON I GAVE A COMMENT HERE UP HERE WAS THE SEAGRASS.

THERE IS ANOTHER AREA OF SEAGRASS WITH MOORING, BUT WITH BUOYS, MARKER BUOYS, THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED [INAUDIBLE].

AND THAT'S ON THE LOXAHATCHEE RIVER, JUST WEST OF THE RAILROAD BRIDGE DUE NORTH OF MARLIN DRIVE, WHAT'S COMMONLY CALLED IBIS ISLAND.

AND THERE'S A SANDBAR THAT GOES ALMOST A PENNOCK POINT FROM THERE.

VERY POPULAR SANDBAR, PARTICULARLY ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.

WE HAVE SEEN, WE HAVE PICTURES OF 40, 50, 60 BOATS AGROUND, SOMETIMES HELD WITH AN ANCHOR IN PLACE AND TWO, THREE, SOMETIMES FOUR BOATS BETWEEN THE TWO MARKER BUOYS.

SHOAL [INAUDIBLE] SEAGRASS CAN'T BE THERE.

THEY'RE COMPLETELY IGNORING THOSE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDRESSED IN A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE FASHION THAN IT HAS BEEN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT REQUIRES THAT TO BE ADDRESSED.

A SATURDAY AT NOON IS AN IDEAL TIME TO GO TAKE A LOOK.

SECOND THING I WAS, THANK YOU, CHIEF ENGLAND, FOR ALL OF THE DETAIL OF WHAT IT TAKES TO GET A BOAT OUT.

I CAN GUARANTEE YOU 90% OF JUPITER DOESN'T KNOW THOSE DETAILS AND I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE ONE OR MORE OF YOU READY TO ADDRESS THAT KIND OF THING AT OUR NEXT MEET THE COUNCIL, MORNING OR NIGHT.

I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT EDUCATIONAL THING TO ADD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS A BOATING COMMUNITY.

LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THE BOATING RULES ARE AND THE DERELICT VESSEL RULES ARE.

LAST QUESTION.

THERE'S SOME CAME UP. YOU SAID PALM BEACH KIND OF LIMITS THE PERCENTAGE OF NAVIGABLE WATER THAT COULD BE MARKED AS, WHAT WAS THE TERM, ANCHORING LIMITED SPACE.

YOU DIDN'T SAY IF THERE WAS ANY PERCENTAGE LEFT.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PERCENTAGE LEFT.

WE CAN PURSUE THAT. THANK YOU.

AND MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS? BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.

YOU WANT ME TO RUN THROUGH THESE OR DO YOU WANT TO? I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I YOU KNOW, THE POINTS YOU RAISED WERE WERE REALLY GOOD.

I THOUGHT THOSE ARE THINGS WE COULD GO BACK THROUGH.

MAYBE WE COULD ASK THE CHIEF IF TAKING A LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL VESSELS, PARTICULARLY THE BIG ONE THAT'S IN THE AREA OF THE BLUE MOON.

AND IS THERE ANYTHING CURRENTLY IN THE TOOLBOX THAT WE CAN USE TO ADDRESS THAT, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE.

SO WE CAN DO OUR RESEARCH ON THAT AND WE CAN WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES IS FLORIDA STATUTES, SPECIFICALLY 327.60 IN PART PREEMPTS A COUNTY OR A

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NOW, BACK IN 2019, WE TRIED TO PASS LEGISLATION AND IN FACT A COPY OF IT WITH WORKING WITH MR. BAIRD WAS SENT TO GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION COMMISSION, WHERE THEY BASICALLY HAD SAID THAT THIS BODY COULD NOT PASS THAT LEGISLATION.

SHORTLY AFTER THAT, MR. BAIRD PREPARED A MEMO DATED OCTOBER 15, 2019, DISAGREEING WITH THE POSITION, BUT SAYING THAT IT WASN'T PRUDENT TO DISREGARD ITS POSITION.

SO I WOULD WANT TO DO A LOT MORE RESEARCH BEFORE I CAN SAY I CAN RECOMMEND LEGISLATION OR A CODE OR SOMETHING FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES, IS WE HAVE TO STICK WITHIN THE FLORIDA STATUTES OR THE COUNTY ORDINANCES.

AND AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, AND I AM EQUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT BLUE MOON AND I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION, BUT IT'S NOT WITHIN THE FOUR CORNERS OF DERELICT BY DEFINITION OF FLORIDA STATUTE.

SO THAT IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE IT.

IS IT UNREGISTERED? YES, IT IS. AND HE RECEIVES A CITATION FOR THAT.

BUT BEING UNREGISTERED IS NOT IN THE FLORIDA LAW AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO REMOVE A VESSEL AS EITHER AT-RISK OR DERELICT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE 16 CITATIONS TO THAT BOAT, BECAUSE WE CONTINUOUSLY ISSUE THE CITATION AND HE PAYS IT, MUCH LIKE IF SOMEONE DROVE A VEHICLE WITH A BROKEN TAIL LIGHT AND THEY NEVER FIXED IT AND THEY JUST PAID THE TICKET EVERY WHATEVER THE CYCLE WAS.

SO WE ARE EQUALLY FRUSTRATED BY BLUE MOON AND BY SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL VESSELS.

WE KEEP ON THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY, EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

WE FOLLOW THEM. WE HOLD THEM TO EVERY LETTER OF THE LAW.

WE EVEN HAVE FOLKS OUT THERE QUARTERLY AT NIGHT WHERE WE DIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT ANCHORING TO OR UTILIZING ANYTHING ILLEGAL LIKE ENGINE BLOCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OUR [INAUDIBLE] TEAM GOES OUT THERE AND DOES THAT.

SO EVERYTHING WITHIN THE STATUTE AS IT IS, WE DO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY ON THOSE TOPICS TO TALK WITH FWC AND THE STATE TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.

THE VESSELS THAT ARE TIED UP OR BETWEEN CAUTIONARY BUOYS, THEY'RE NOT CHANNEL MARKERS, SO THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE THERE ALSO.

AND YES, ON THE WEEKENDS, A LOT OF VESSELS GO ON SANDBARS AND WE HAVE OUR MARINE UNIT OFFICERS OUT THERE MONITORING THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY MAY BE DOING WRONG, INCLUDING LOUD STEREOS OR MUSIC OR ALCOHOL BY MINORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING.

WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN THAT'S WITHIN FLORIDA STATUTE.

I THINK THAT, WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION HERE, BUT JUST WE HAVE THIS EMAIL THAT, I BELIEVE ALL OF US GOT, IT CAME IN ON OCTOBER 3RD. IT DOES REPRESENT A NICE SUMMARY.

SOME OF THESE, WE WOULD HAVE INDIVIDUALLY CAME UP WITH, BUT IT DOES REPRESENT A NICE SUMMARY.

IT DOES REPRESENT ONE RESIDENT'S OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE REGULATIONS MAY ALLOW.

IT'S VERY WELL DONE.

I'D LIKE, WE'LL PASS IT ON AND THEN I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT YOU AND OR THE TOWN ATTORNEY OR WHOEVER ELSE COMMENT BACK ON IT, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM HERE.

BUT WHAT I'LL SAY, TO ME WAS MOST INTERESTING ABOUT YOUR PRESENTATION WAS THE PUBLIC MOORING FIELD.

AND WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THOSE IS, NUMBER ONE, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I ALREADY SAID I'M NOT FOR IT, BUT IT MAKES A NICE PUNCH LIST OF WHAT YOU OUGHT TO HAVE IF ANYBODY'S MOORING, YOU KNOW.

SO THAT'S WHAT STRUCK ME, WHICH IS WHY THEN, KNOWING THAT, I MEAN, LOOK, YOU KNOW, GEE, YOU HAVE A PUMP OUT STATION, OKAY, HERE'S GOT A VESSEL.

BLUE MOON'S, NEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A LANDING AREA.

SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT MAY BE THE CASE THAT WE HAVE IT RIGHT AS A AS A MUNICIPALITY TO TAKE ACTION UPON THE LANDING AREAS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR ACCESS.

BECAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT ACCESS, THEN PERHAPS THEY MIGHT DECIDE IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON, WHICH IS WHY A COMMENT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WROTE THAT, WELL, MAYBE WE GET THE COUNTY IN THE PARK WHERE BLUE MOON HAS THEIR LANDING AREA TOMORROW IN FORCE.

YOU'VE GOT TO DIG HERE. IT'S GONE.

YOU'VE GOT A BIKE HERE, IT'S GONE.

AND EVENTUALLY THEY MIGHT GET THE MESSAGE.

SAME, SAME THING.

WHICH IS WHY I SAID ALONG RIVERWALK, WHERE I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME PRETTY SAD LOOKING HOUSEBOATS THAT I DON'T KNOW HAVE ANY PROPULSION TO THEM, BUT I SEE BIKES CHAINED AGAINST THE RIVERWALK FENCE.

SO WE, ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, EFFECTIVELY HAVE JUST ENABLED AND ENCOURAGED IT TO

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RIGHT. BUT BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE OUGHT TO HAVE THAT EVALUATED BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE PRACTICAL METHODS TO SEND A MESSAGE.

NOW, YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE.

YOU KNOW, I'M GOING, RIGHT? IT'S ONE THING TO LAY UP FOR A FEW DAYS OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE THE OBJECTION IS, IS WHEN SOMETHING'S YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND PARTICULARLY WHETHER OR NOT BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE, I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S THE WORST THING, YOU KNOW.

SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN ON BLUE MOON TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT AND OTHERS THAT ARE AGAIN, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE RULES THAT, AGAIN, WE MAY BE LIMITING WHAT WE CAN STAY ON THE WATER, WE'RE NOT LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN SAY ABOUT WHEN THEY COME TO THE SHORE, WHICH THEY HAVE TO GET TO AND LEAVE FROM.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF A THOUGHT ENOUGH WHAT MY COLLEAGUES THINK ABOUT THAT.

I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH EXPLORING.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE ACTION, THE ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL VESSELS.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AWARE OF THE BAIT, THAT COMMERCIAL VESSEL WITH EIGHT BAIT TRAPS OR WHATEVER, OR SIX WHATEVER.

AGAIN, IF WE ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN COMMERCIALLY, RIGHTLY SO, WE MAY FIND, HEY, WE HAVE NOW WE HAVE THREE, NOW WE HAVE TEN, NOW WE HAVE WHATEVER.

I AGREE, YES, DEFINITELY.

A QUICK COMMENT, IF I MAY, REGARDING THAT VESSEL THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE BLUE MOON.

THAT VESSEL IS REGISTERED.

IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE WHOLE NUMBER ON IT, BUT IT IS REGISTERED.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHICH WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH, WHO'S ALSO DOCKED AT DUBOIS PARK, RIGHT WHERE THE BLUE MOON IS.

THEY'VE ALSO CHECKED OUT WITH THE OWNER OF THAT VESSEL THAT APPEARS TO BE A FLOATING STRUCTURE.

AND THEY'VE ALSO ENFORCED ORDINANCES AND LAWS, BUT NOT THE FLOATING STRUCTURE BECAUSE IT IS REGISTERED.

AND THEN ALSO OUR MARINE UNION HAS ALSO ISSUED SEVERAL CITATIONS TO THAT VESSEL AS WELL.

I BELIEVE THAT WE ALL HAVE A COMMON GOAL, THE COUNCIL OF POLICE DEPARTMENT RESIDENTS.

I'M ALSO A RESIDENT AND I USE THE WATERWAY FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.

I LOVE IT OUT THERE, PUT MY FAMILY OUT THERE.

SO I THINK WE ALL HAVE A COMMON GOAL.

THE ONLY RESTRAINTS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE, AND IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNCIL, IS FLORIDA STATE STATUTE ORDINANCES AND LAWS.

SO WE DO WHATEVER WE CAN.

WE'VE STEPPED UP OUR ENFORCEMENT OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WHICH IS EVIDENT WITH OUR PRESENTATION.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF CITATIONS THAT WE HAVE ISSUED RECENTLY COMPARED TO IN THE PAST, IT'S GROWN TREMENDOUSLY.

SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.

WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS ALSO, TOO, REGARDING THE OWNER OF THE BLUE MOON BEING BELLIGERENT OR BEING OUT THERE.

I ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO CALL US WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

NOT SAYING THAT NO ONE HAS.

I DON'T HAVE THE CALL HISTORY LIKE THAT, BUT I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY CALL US IF THERE'S AN ISSUE ON THE WATER OR NEAR THE SHORE, BECAUSE WE CAN ALWAYS RESPOND TO THAT. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE WE'RE GRATEFUL AND IT'S COMMENDABLE, BUT WE HAVE AN EMAIL, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THAT PARTICULAR ONE, SO WE'RE GOING TO GET IT TO YOU.

YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT IT'S JUST JUPITER NEEDS TO DROP AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL VESSELS FROM OVERNIGHT ANCHORING.

THIS IS SPECIFICALLY APPROVED ON THE FLORIDA STATUTE 327.60, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSELS.

SO JUST READ THAT SENTENCE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT PERSON RESEARCHED THAT.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE JUST WANT TO SAY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND SEE IF YOU AGREE, BECAUSE WHAT'S OUT THERE IS NOT A COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSEL.

AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT AN ORDINANCE WOULD PROBABLY MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR A COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSEL.

BUT THIS IS NOT IT. SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO JUST KIND OF HAND THAT OFF.

SO MAYBE ANOTHER SET OF EYES LOOKING AT THIS.

WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO WORK WITH US TO THAT QUESTION, FLORIDA STATUTE 327 SO WE'RE GOING TO ROUTE THAT TO YOU.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT WAS IN THAT SPIRIT THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THESE HERE.

I'M NOT QUESTIONING, IT MAY BE THIS AS WELL, BUT LET'S RUN IT TO GROUND.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT THIS STRATEGIC INITIATIVE WAS ABOUT.

RIGHT. WE HAVE AND WE ALWAYS WILL RUN DOWN EVERY I'VE NEVER HAD ANY DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND, CHIEF, THE BAIT PEN VESSEL, THAT DOESN'T HAVE PROPULSION, DOES IT?

[01:45:05]

IT'S NOT, THEY'RE JUST HOLDING BAIT PENS.

SO THEY CATCH THE BAIT, PUT THEM IN THERE.

I THINK THEY SELL IT. THAT IS CORRECT.

AND IT IS A LEGAL NORMAL COMMERCIAL FIVE TRAP THAT'S USED.

AND JUST WANTED TO MENTION MR. KELLY. MR. KELLY INVITED ME TO HIS HOUSE ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.

I SAT ON HIS SUNDECK, GOT A CUP OF COFFEE, TALKING ABOUT THE BLUE MOON AND CHIEF, WHY I ASKED YOU WHAT YEAR WAS THAT PICTURE TAKEN? RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH.

SO YOU AND I MET EACH OTHER IN DUBOIS PARK, RIGHT? I'M JUST MENTIONING THAT I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME OVER.

AND, CHIEF, YOU SAID IT WAS A REASON THAT BOAT LOOKED SO MUCH BETTER FROM A DISTANCE, BECAUSE YOU GET CLOSE TO THAT BOAT AND THOSE SAILS HAVE BEEN FURLED AROUND THE BOOM FOR YEARS. I'VE DONE A LOT OF SAILING IN MY LIFE.

I WOULD NEVER TAKE THAT THING OUT ON THE WATERWAY.

DO THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY MAKE WAY OR GO ON A PROPULSION OR SO? I 'M JUST CURIOUS.

THERE IS A NEW LAW THAT REQUIRES THAT ALLOWS AN OFFICER OF THE LAW TO REQUIRE THE OWNER OR THE OPERATOR OF THE VESSEL TO DEMONSTRATE PROPULSION.

NOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT'S OPINION, AND THIS IS JUST MINE, THIS IS PALM BEACH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FWC.

THE LAW WAS WRITTEN TOO QUICKLY AND IS NOT, OR IT'S IN CONFLICT WITH OTHER LAWS BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT THAT LAW ALLOWS IS FOR AN OFFICER TO COME UP AND MAKE A VISUAL ESTIMATION OF THE VESSEL AND SAY, I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS EFFECTIVE MEANS OF PROPULSION AND THEN REQUIRE THE OWNER TO DEMONSTRATE PROPULSION.

SO IF THAT PERSON THEN LIFTS THEIR ANCHOR, FLOATS OFF AND DAMAGES THEMSELVES, DRIFTS INTO THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY, THE OFFICER IN THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY COULD BE CIVILLY RESPONSIBLE. PLUS, IT'S IN CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER FLORIDA STATUTE THAT SAYS IF A VESSEL DOES NOT HAVE EFFECTIVE MEANS OF PROPULSION, IT IS ILLEGAL TO OPERATE IT. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE ASKING THE OFFICER TO MAKE THE PERSON DO SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN DO AND IS IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.

SO THAT HAS BEEN NO TRACTION.

AND WE'RE REALLY WAITING FOR THE STATE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S THAT VESSEL'S ACHILLES HEEL.

AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO COME UP AND SAY, MAKE IT HAPPEN.

AND IF YOU CAN'T WRITE THEM A TICKET, BUT TO MAKE THEM ONE, IT HAS A SAIL.

SO THERE'S NO REASON TO SAY IT DOESN'T HAVE IT.

NOW IT'S OLD, IT'S DERELICT, IT PROBABLY IS, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

BUT THEN YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THE OFFICER OR THE PERSON.

I'M JUST ASKING. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR INFORMATION.

SO, YES, THERE WAS A STATUTE PASSED LAST YEAR.

HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T PASS THE SMELL TEST FROM THE BEGINNING.

I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. MY OBSERVATION'S THAT THAT VESSEL'S NOT SEAWORTHY.

IT FLOATS AND IT FLOATS ON ITS OWN MEAN.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS AND DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING.

AND I APPRECIATE THE OPINION.

I BELIEVE IT'S THERE. LIKE IT'S NOT DERELICT BY FLORIDA STATUTE.

AND IT'S VERY CLEAR. THAT'S WHY I QUOTED IT AND CITED IT.

AND THE BOAT ISSUE IS MAJOR BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT OVER SENSITIVE GRASS FLAT AREA.

AND SO OUR OFFICERS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ON THAT BOAT.

WE MONITOR THAT BOAT, AS WE DO EVERY OTHER VESSEL IN OUR IN OUR WATERWAYS.

SO IF THERE WAS EVER AN OCCASION WHERE WE SAW A VIOLATION, THIS VESSEL AS ANY OTHER VESSEL THAT'S SIMILAR TO IT, WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

RIGHT. OKAY. THANKS.

AGAIN IF WE KEEP FOCUSED ON THE ACTION PLAN.

SO THE FIRST ACTION PLAN WAS MONITOR STATE AND COUNTY LEGISLATION TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE REMOVAL EFFORTS.

SO HERE, WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

[INAUDIBLE] AND IT'S BEEN ADOPTED AND WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL OPINION ABOUT ITS SHORTCOMINGS.

RIGHT? YOU JUST GAVE US THAT.

LET'S RIGHT UP THOSE SHORTCOMINGS.

LET'S SEND IT BACK TO THE LEGISLATOR THAT INITIATED THAT ONE AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET AN ACTION.

THAT'S HOW WE CAN MAYBE INFLUENCE SOME CHANGE.

RIGHT? SO WE RESPECT THE OPINION, RIGHT? BUT NOW WE'D LIKE TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW UP, PUT THAT IN WRITING IN A LETTER.

WE'LL SEND IT TO THE LEGISLATOR.

RIGHT? AND ASK IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, RIGHT? THANK YOU. WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WORK AS DILIGENTLY AS WE CAN WITH FWC AND PALM BEACH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND YES, WE CAN TAKE THE LEAD, CLEARLY.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR, ON YOUR ON YOUR POINT, I WOULD START WITH WORKING WITH JUPITER'S REPRESENTATIVE.

[01:50:02]

I BELIEVE OUR REPRESENTATIVE ACTUALLY LIVES IN MARTIN COUNTY.

SO YOU COULD EXPAND THAT TO THE TREASURE COAST AND GET THE DELEGATION THEN TO SPONSOR, TO ASK ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES TO SPONSOR A BILL TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE FRUSTRATING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THAT STATUTE ON PREEMPTION, OUR EXPERIENCE WITH IT WAS THAT WE WROTE A CODE PROVISION TO PROTECT JUPITER THAT WAS, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, NOT SOMETHING THAT GOT CLOSE TO WHAT THE STATE HAD PREEMPTED.

AND THE GENERAL COUNCIL CAME BACK AND SAID, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SAID YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING IS THE WAY I INTERPRETED THEIR RESPONSE.

AND SO THE KEY TO THIS IS WORKING WITH OUR, I BELIEVE, WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION TO TRY AND GET SOME CHANGE IN THE LAW.

YEAH, WE HAVE THREE.

SO THAT GIVES US MORE OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S JUPITER SPLIT IN THREE.

RIGHT. OKAY.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO WITH THAT, I MOVE ON TO REPORTS, TOWN ATTORNEY.

[TOWN ATTORNEY]

AND THEN A THIRD, BASED ON SOME RECENT RECENT OPINION ON TEXTS AND PUBLIC RECORDS.

SO START ROLLING THOSE OUT FOR DISTRIBUTION TO COUNCIL SO YOU ALL CAN REVIEW THOSE.

NOW, PROBABLY START EITHER TOMORROW OR EARLY NEXT WEEK ONE BY ONE OR MAYBE AS A GROUP.

THANK YOU. READY?

[TOWN MANAGER]

I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON MY LIST.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO SAY BALANCING.

WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SCHEDULE.

BALANCING THE COUNCIL SCHEDULE THIS MONTH IS A LITTLE CHALLENGING, TO SAY THE LEAST, BETWEEN HOLIDAYS, COUNCIL SCHEDULES AND THE CRA AND WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT MOVING THE CRA MEETING.

WE HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED ON MOVING THE CRA MEETING BACK TO NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME CDBG THINGS WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE THAT ONE ITEM ABOUT THE A1A ROUNDABOUT STILL ON OUR AGENDA.

AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT, TO EXTEND THE TIMELINE FOR THAT CONTRACT. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY AND IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING.

SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS A CRA MEETING COMING UP FOR THE 20TH SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE STAY IN LINE WITH OUR TIMELINES, GET THIS ITEM BEFORE COUNCIL, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE ON THE 20TH.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST PIECE.

WE WILL NOT LET THAT TIMELINE EXPIRE ON US TO GET THAT ITEM BEFORE THE CRA AND THE COUNCIL.

OKAY. AND FOR THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE A BID THAT WE COULD GO INTO CONTRACT WITH, BUT THE CRA WOULD FIRST HAVE TO AGREE TO FUND THE PROJECT.

AND THEN WE DID ONE SINCE IT WAS THE SECOND TIME IT WAS BID, WITHOUT HEARING FROM THE CRA.

DIDN'T WANT IT TO EXPIRE AND NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE MAJORITY MAY HAVE WANTED.

SO THANK YOU FOR, SO IT'S GOING TO BE SCHEDULED ON THE 20TH.

WE'LL SCHEDULE ON THE 20TH TOMORROW.

WE'LL REACH OUT AGAIN.

IF WE DON'T GET ANYTHING IN WRITING ON AN EXTENSION, THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT ON THE CALENDAR TOMORROW.

OKAY. AND THEN ALSO, I WANT TO GIVE A THANK YOU AND A COMMENDATION TO THE MEMBERS OF OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, BOTH OF WHOM HAVE GONE TO THE WEST COAST TO ASSIST WITH VICTIMS OF HURRICANE IAN.

[01:55:07]

BUT OUR FOLKS VOLUNTEERED.

IT WAS EVERYTHING HAPPENED QUICKLY.

SUNDAY MORNING THEY'RE ON THE WAY.

AND THEY'VE BEEN BUSY.

SOME ARE COMING HOME, I THINK.

WELL, HALF WILL COME HOME TOMORROW.

OTHER HALF WILL COME HOME SATURDAY.

AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S NOT BEEN A REQUEST FOR RELIEF YET BY ANY OTHER TOWN EMPLOYEES OR JUPITER RESOURCES.

BUT CERTAINLY IF THAT COMES, WE'LL ADDRESS IT.

LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE? AND FOLLOWING UP ON THE MSDU, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION COMING UP ON NOVEMBER 1ST, THE COUNCIL AND HAD A GOOD MEETING WITH THE FIRE CHIEF, THE COUNTY FIRE CHIEF YESTERDAY.

AND SO THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE DIALOGUE REMAINING OPEN AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS WHATEVER THAT RESOLUTION OR OUR AGREEMENT MAY BE THAT WE CAN BRING FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL.

AND I THINK, LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK.

I HAVE THREE PAGES WORTH OF NOTES AGAIN TONIGHT FROM EVERYTHING, AND I THINK THAT WAS IT.

AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE ACTION ITEMS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT THAT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON.

THAT'S MY REPORT, MA'AM. I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

[TOWN COUNCIL – LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMENTS]

ARE THEY'RE DOING ALL THAT VOLUNTARILY? NO, THEY GET PAID.

THEY GET PAID. BUT WHAT MORE AS A COUNCIL CAN WE DO TO SUPPORT THAT OR I MEAN? WELL, I'M GOING TO BRING THEM WHEN THEY COME BACK.

WE'LL LET THEM GET RESTED UP.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THIS IS NOT PART OF THEIR NORMAL WORK DUTIES, NOR ARE THEY REQUIRED TO DO THESE.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEERED TO GO OVER.

SO AT A MINIMUM, I'LL BE BRINGING THEM BEFORE THE COUNCIL SO WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THEM FOR THEIR WORK AND STILL EXPLORING SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MAY HAVE FOR THEM. AND ESPECIALLY TAKE A LOOK AT OUR UTILITIES FOLKS, YOU KNOW, IN THESE DEEP HOLES, WORKING ON PIPES AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. AND IT'S JUST, IT WAS A HEAVY LIFT.

I MEAN, IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM.

IT'S GOING TO BE MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS, FOR SOMETHING.

SO, I MEAN, SHALL WE EXPLORE LENGTH OF TIME, HOW LONG PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO GO OVER THERE, FUNDING? I'M OPEN MINDED.

I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SAY.

WE'LL LET YOU KNOW. TYPICALLY, THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IS WE JUST DON'T VOLUNTARILY GO.

THERE'S MISSION, WE CALL THEM MISSION NUMBERS AND MISSIONS THAT COME THROUGH THE STATE, EITHER THROUGH THE STATE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER OR THE APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT BODY FOR THE UTILITIES.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET A MISSION NUMBER AND A REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE, WE SEND FOLKS.

NOW THEY HAVE A LIST OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PD WAS IN NORTHPORT, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND SO NORTHPORT NEEDED CERTAIN THINGS AND WE MET THAT CRITERIA.

SO IF WE GET ANY MORE OF THAT, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

BUT AT A MINIMUM, I'D LIKE TO BRING THEM HERE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE CERTAINLY THE WORK THEY DID IS REALLY EXEMPLARY.

VERY PROUD OF THEM.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. NOW ON THAT.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW, THAT I KNOW OF, AND I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS ON THE TOWN STAFF AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE ALSO STEPPED UP TO HELP OUT AND DONE THINGS. BUT THE PROCESS YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS ONE, THAT THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.

WE POTENTIALLY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE MISSION NUMBER.

UNDERSTAND? BECAUSE, YES, WE GET BACK, WE GET REIMBURSED.

RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. RIGHT. WELL, I KNEW THAT WHEN YOU STARTED TO SAY THE FORMALITY OF YOU GOING THIS WAY.

I'M CURIOUS IF IT'S INTERESTING.

I'VE GOT A PROJECT GOING ON OVER IN LEE COUNTY, IT KIND OF OCCURS TO ME AND I'M SURE OTHERS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE REALLY BUSY WITH BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS AND PLANNING AND WHATEVER.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IT COMES TO THE ,AND SOME HAVE THOUGHT, WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE PRETTY LIBERAL ABOUT APPROVING BILL BACKS.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF A BUILDING DEPARTMENT SKILL MIGHT NOT BE VALUABLE OVER THERE. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, IF AND WHEN THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN LET US KNOW LIKE YOU DID BEFORE.

[02:00:02]

RIGHT. AND A NEED FOR A LOT OF THAT OVER THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES.

IT WASN'T A FORMAL REQUEST, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT ON TARGET WITH THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

YEAH, I HAD ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT HAS PREVIEWED A PLAN FOR A SHORELINE LIVING SHORELINE PROJECT OVER BY THE LIGHT HOUSE, WHERE THERE'S BEEN ALL THE EROSION.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE IN MIND AND MAYBE GET A BRIEFING.

I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS IT. AND NOT TO PUT KATE MORETTO ON THE SPOT, BUT IF SHE COULD COME UP.

YOU KNOW, I HAD SPOKE TO COUNCIL ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REFERENDUM.

I HAVE NOT YET BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE PRESENTATION THAT I SAW TO ME, BUT I DID TALK TO KATE BECAUSE WE WERE PONDERING ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO GET A PRESENTATION, WHETHER IT MAY BE BEST TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING OR IN A COMMUNITY CENTER.

I NOTICED TODAY THEY MAY BE HAVING ONE IN THE WEST COMMUNITY CENTER.

BUT SINCE YOU AGREED TO FOLLOW UP.

YES. CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US A STATUS UPDATE? SURE. YEAH. I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO MENTION THAT THAT THEY DO HAVE SOME PUBLISHED DATES, EDUCATIONAL SESSION DATES, ONE OF WHICH IS AT THE WEST JUPITER COMMUNITY CENTER.

I'M TRYING TO CONFIRM WITH THE COUNTY THAT IT WILL COVER THE EXACT INFORMATION THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT, BECAUSE THE WEBSITE INFORMATION IS A LITTLE BIT VAGUE.

IT'S A GENERAL HOUSING DISCUSSION.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ACTUALLY COVERS THAT EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT.

OKAY, AND IF IT DOES, THEN MAKE SURE THAT, HOPEFULLY WE COULD ALSO OFFER THEM OUR COMMUNITY CENTER IF IT'S A BETTER VENUE.

SURE. BUT EITHER WAY, IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE JUPITER AREA VENUE, THEN WE NEED TO PROMOTE IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INFORMED.

BUT YOU AND I HAD AGREED YOU WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF IT'S A BOND REFERENDUM THE COUNTY CAN'T ADVOCATE.

I THINK IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE COUNTY, IT'S THE GROUPS THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE OR WHATEVER.

RIGHT. JUST CLARIFY THAT IT'S NOT THE COUNTY WOULD BE DOING, IT WOULD BE THE GROUP THAT'S ADVOCATING BUT IT'S A COUNTY REFERENDUM.

I'M JUST EMPHASIZING WHAT IT IS, BUT YEAH THAT'S ALSO WHY I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT IT WAS AN INFORM AND EDUCATE SESSION, NOT NECESSARILY AN ADVOCACY SESSION.

BUT I DO THINK, MY GOSH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALMOST JUST ONE MONTH OUT.

I'M SURPRISED THAT THERE ISN'T.

SO WE WERE, JUST REMEMBER, I GOT INVITED TO A MEETING AND I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO GET INFORMATION SO I CAN SHARE WITH YOU AND THEN WE COULD SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC.

AND I HAVEN'T GOT IT YET. AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT'S DIFFICULT TO COME BY.

IT IS. YEAH. SO JUST TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED ON SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD THEN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION INDIVIDUALLY, NOT ADVOCATING FOR IT, BUT ADVOCATING MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION.

THIS IS ON AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH SHOULD BE IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY.

WHETHER OR NOT THE REFERENDUM IS SOMETHING YOU SUPPORT IS A PERSONAL DECISION.

BUT YOU'D HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IS THE REFERENDUM DOING.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING? HOW? SO WE'RE TRYING TO, SO WE'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED AS WE CONFIRM WHEN THERE'S A MEANINGFUL PRESENTATION TO THINK ABOUT ATTENDING. THANK YOU.

JUST LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MY, I ONLY HAVE TWO OF MY FOUR OTHER COLLEAGUES UP HERE, BUT IT'S INTERESTING THE DYNAMICS OF A COUNCIL, BECAUSE ON A JUPITER RIVER ESTATES CANAL VEGETATIVE CLEANING, WHICH HAS COME UP, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR YEARS AND I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR YEARS, YOU KNOW, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT.

AND WE WENT IN.

IT WAS A STRETCH JUST FOR US TO PAY FOR HALF OF IT.

WE WERE GOING TO GET A GRANT, IT THEN DIED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE GRANT.

WE STEPPED UP AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? AND WE HAD RESIDENTS THAT CAME HERE AND SAID, WE'LL TAKE THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, LET'S FINALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAVING A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT NOW.

THEN YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAVING TO COME BACK, SOME OTHER COUNCIL'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TEN YEARS FROM NOW AND DO IT AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MAINTAIN IT.

SO WE'RE THIS CLOSE TO DOING IT RIGHT.

[02:05:01]

SO I THINK SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT BE SUPPORTIVE, BUT IF YOU DON'T SPEAK OUT, IT'S GOING TO COME, GUARANTEE IT'S GOING TO COME AND WE'RE GOING TO GET IT FOR A CONTRACT AWARD. AND I MUST SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

I'VE GIVEN YOU A FAIR WARNING.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF, PLEASE WEIGH IN IF YOU AGREE.

AND WHAT WAS THE LATEST ON THE ASSESSMENT? ANYBODY HERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? NO. BUT ANYWAY, I'M AT THE POINT WHERE WE JUST NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP.

AND THEN I BELIEVE THOSE RESIDENTS DILIGENT.

SO I'M PUTTING TRUST IN OUR NEIGHBORS OVER THERE.

BUT TO KEEP KICKING THIS DOWN THE ROAD, I'VE BEEN THERE AND IT'S A SEWER BACK THERE.

I KNOW SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT SAID WE'RE HAPPY TO GO AHEAD TO SIGN UP FOR THE ASSESSMENT, BUT I'VE JUST SEEN THIS HAPPEN TOO MANY TIMES.

WE NEVER GO FORTH. I DON'T KNOW WHY THE STORM AND UTILITY DOESN'T USE THIS AS A MODEL ON HOW TO FUND PROJECTS.

I THINK GOING IN OUR DIRECTION, I WOULDN'T TOTALLY BLAME THEM, BUT I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE CLEANED UP AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO PUSH THEM TO GET THAT DONE.

I PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE WHEN THEY COME BACK IN FIVE, SIX, TEN YEARS.

DO IT AGAIN. TOWN'S NOT DOING IT AGAIN.

OF COURSE. AND IT ENHANCES THEIR PROPERTY VALUE.

THEY HAVE WATERFRONT PROPERTY AND IT'S SHOCKING THAT SOME PEOPLE JUST LET THEIR BACKYARDS JUST DETERIORATE.

IT'S AMAZING.

WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, THOUGH.

FOR ME, I WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS A POLICY MATTER AND UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH WE WOULD SAY THAT ONE WOULD BE DESIRABLE AND ONE IT WOULDN'T BE BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT IT TO BE APPLIED INCONSISTENTLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES SOMETHING MAY SEEM LIKE IT ONLY BENEFITS ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ACTUALLY BENEFITS EVERYONE.

AND I'M A LITTLE LEERY ABOUT GOING DOWN THE ROAD THAT SAYS, WELL, IF IT'S YOUR STREET, THERE'S A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.

AND THEN IF SOMEBODY ELSE'S STREET, THEY GET A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AND THEN THE TOWN ISN'T PAYING FOR THINGS GENERALLY.

SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE BEFORE I WOULD SUPPORT ANYTHING I WANT TO THINK AT ALL THROUGH FIRST BEFORE.

AND WHILE I GET THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT, I'M ALSO BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE THIS IS HISTORY, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.

I KNOW ON THIS ONE PROPERTY, BUT YOU WERE LOOKING TO EXPAND THE CONCEPT TO OTHER PROJECTS IN THE UTILITY.

AND SO FOR ME, AS A POLICY MATTER, I WANT TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HOW DO WE APPLY IT, WHAT ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, WHERE IT DOESN'T, AND WHAT ARE THE GUARDRAILS? THIS ONE'S UNIQUE, WHERE THE PROPERTY IS THEY OWN HALFWAY THROUGH THE CANAL.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE.

BUT IT'S JUST BECAUSE IN THE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE CONCEPT.

SO AT THAT POINT, AND THAT'S ALL SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ARE A POLICY DECISION.

RIGHT BUT WE SHOULD HAVE AN OVERALL POLICY ABOUT POLICY DECISIONS.

SO IT'S NOT ARBITRARY.

WHAT WOULD BE UNIQUE IN THIS, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN STORM AND UTILITY WAS ESTABLISHED, THERE WAS SAID THERE WOULD BE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU LIVE IN STEPPED UP, ASSESSED OURSELVES, DID A $400,000 STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY EVERYBODY WAS GOING TO DO IT, AND THEN THEY STOPPED DOING IT WITH OTHERS.

SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE WOULD DEMONSTRATE THE ABILITY TO DO IT.

WE'VE NEVER DONE IT.

SO I'M CURIOUS TO THE DEGREE WE HAD RESIDENTS COME HERE AND SAY, YEAH, WE'LL SIGN UP, JUST DO IT.

START. IF WE CAN EVER GET IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, WE KNOW IT'S DOABLE, RIGHT? TILL WE KNOW IT'S DOABLE, YOU REALLY YOU KNOW, SO ANY EVENT.

AND I KNOW THE SITUATION IS IMPERFECT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEWN THAT UP YET BUT IN LIFE NOT EVERYTHING'S ALWAYS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO JUST DO SOMETHING TO GET THE BALL MOVING.

YEAH. SO I'M WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK, I GUESS.

PUBLIC PAYING FOR THINGS.

ANYWAY, THAT WAS IT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT ON THE RECORD.

AND COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT WHEN YOU COME ON THE COUNCIL, THERE IS A HISTORY OF POLICY, POTENTIAL ACTIONS THAT YOU CAN CHANGE.

YOU BECOME ONE OF FIVE AND TWO OF FIVE.

BUT THAT'S ONE WHERE THERE ACTUALLY HAD BEEN QUITE A BIT, YOU AGREE, OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW? OH, YEAH, WE KICKED THAT AROUND.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE APPLICATION OF IT, WHICH IS A WHOLLY DIFFERENT MATTER TO ME.

NO, BUT WHAT WAS PRESENTED IS WE'RE GOING TO GET IT BID BACK.

I'VE SAID EVERY SINGLE TIME IT'S COME UP, WHEN YOU BRING THE CONTRACT BEFORE US, BRING THE SPECIAL DISTRICT AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

STILL COULD BE.

AND I KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE PERCEIVED THERE'S NO CONSENSUS ON THAT.

[02:10:03]

SO I'M JUST SAYING THANK YOU.

I BROUGHT IT UP. BE MINDFUL THAT IF YOU DON'T SPEAK UP, THAT MEANS YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN CENTRAL ISLAND WAY SOUTH.

I'VE SAID FOR THREE YEARS, CAN WE MOVE ON TO ENGINEERING? NOBODY WEIGHS IN.

SO NOBODY'S SUPPORTING ADVANCING THE PROJECT THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE WEST END OF TOWN.

YOU MAY NOT REALIZE IT WHEN YOU DON'T SPEAK UP, IT MEANS THAT YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT.

WELL, SOMETIMES IT'S A MATTER OF NEEDING MORE INFORMATION OR WANTING TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS.

I MEAN, I CAN'T ALWAYS JUST COMMENT ON SOMETHING THE FIRST TIME.

I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NEW ON THE COUNCIL.

IT'S JUST THE WAY MY PROCESS WORKS.

I LIKE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION AND I WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT AND LOOK AT ALL THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT.

SO JUST BECAUSE I DON'T RESPOND AT THE TIME YOU BRING IT UP DOESN'T MEAN I'M NOT CONSIDERING IT.

IT JUST MEANS THAT I NEED TO THINK ABOUT.

YEAH, ANYWAY, THAT ONE'S GOING TO COME BACK TO US.

AND WE ALREADY DID, 60% OR 30% ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW.

I THINK AT THAT POINT WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GET WE'RE GOING TO GET A STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE RIGHT.

IS THAT ON THE 20TH OR IS A MONTH? MAYOR I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE, BUT YOU WILL.

AND YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO SEE THAT COME FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT.

YEP. BUT CERTAINLY IF AN ITEM IS A STRATEGIC ITEM, I WOULD HOPE THERE'S AN ADDED.

AND I WAS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THAT ON DILIGENCE ALSO.

SO. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK WE'RE DONE RIGHT.

YEP, WE'RE DONE. OKAY. WITH THAT, TIME IS NOW 9:13, AND I CALL THE COUNCIL MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.