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>> GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 7:01.

[Call to Order]

[00:00:07]

I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF MAY 17TH, 2022.

WE BEGIN WITH INVOCATION.

WE MAY BY THE TOWN CLERK.

>> DEAR GOD, ALLOW YOUR WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNDERSTANDING, GUIDE US WITH EACH DECISION TONIGHT TO BENEFIT OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY. AMEN.

>> AMEN.

>> LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

>> IF YOU JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> MAYOR KURETSKI.

>> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR DELANEY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILOR MAY.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER.

>> HERE.

>> COUNCILOR SUNDSTROM.

>> HERE.

>> INTERIM TOWN MANAGER KITZEROW.

>> HERE.

>> TOWN ATTORNEY BAIRD.

>> HERE.

>> WE'LL BEGIN ON OUR CITIZENS COMMENTS.

[CITIZEN COMMENTS]

THIS IS FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IS ASKED TO STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PRIOR TO ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL.

GENERALLY, WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING WHATEVER ITEMS ARE BROUGHT UP THIS EVENING AND SUCH ITEMS ARE GENERALLY REFERRED TO STAFF FOR A FOLLOW-UP AND GETTING BACK WITH OUR CITIZENS.

WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?

>> WE HAVE ONE. FRANK CARLO?

>> PRIOR TO THE ELECTION, I CAME HERE AND I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE VALLEY GUTTERS AND I EXPRESSED MY CONCERN.

I WANT YOU FOLKS TO KNOW THAT RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION, THE MAYOR CAME AND SAW ME.

HE LISTENED TO OUR CONCERNS AND HE WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH US WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE VALLEY GUTTERS AND THE TREES.

I'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO THANK HIM FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO TAXPAYER FRANK.

HE'S A HAPPY GUY FOR THAT PART.

HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T STOP THE REAL PROBLEM.

THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE OAK TREES, AND IT'S JUST NOT MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S PROBLEM, BUT IT'S PASEOS, IT'S ABACOA AND IT'S ANYWHERE ELSE WE PLANTED THE TREES.

THIS LAST WEEK MY WIFE AND I WENT TO CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND WE WENT TO THE BOONE PLANTATION AND THEY HAD THESE GIANT SAVANNAH OAKS, JUST LIKE WE HAVE AND THEY HAD A TWO-LANE HIGHWAY.

THE TWO-LANE ROAD THAT YOU COULD USE TO GET UP TO THE PLANTATION AND THEY HAD THE OAKS AND THEY CAME RIGHT OVER THE TOP.

THAT'S THE IDEA OF HAVING THESE OAKS THAT YOU GET THIS COVERED IN AREA THAT BLOCKS THE SUNSHINE AND IT MAKES IT LIKE A TUNNEL AND IT'S ALL NEAT BECAUSE THE GRASS HAS COME OUT OF IT.

SURE ENOUGH, THEY WERE PROBABLY 100-150 FEET APART, THEIR ROOTS STILL CAME INTO THE ROAD.

I POINT THAT OUT IS BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT MY PROBLEM WAS THE LAST TIME IS THAT THESE ROOTS TRAVEL LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW AS FAR WIDE AS THE TREE IS THAT YOU SEE THE ROOTS ARE UNDERNEATH THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY OTHER THAN THAT.

MY SUGGESTION IS, AND I WOULD BE PART OF IT, THAT WE CREATE SOME BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE IT'S A FINANCIAL PROBLEM WHERE APPARENTLY YOU OWN THE TREES, BUT WE [NOISE] MAINTAIN THEM THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO.

THIS ALL STARTED WHEN I JUST WANTED TO REDO MY DRIVEWAY.

THERE'S A TREE BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, AND I WENT TO MY HOA AND THEY WOULDN'T LET US TAKE IT DOWN BECAUSE THEY JUST SAID IT IS A STREET TREE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND HAVE ANOTHER TALK WITH THEM.

BUT FOR THE LONG-TERM FUTURE, THESE TREES PRESENT A VERY FORMIDABLE FINANCIAL PROBLEM FOR THIS TOWN BECAUSE THEY WON'T STAY LIKE THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO GO WAY OUT LIKE THAT.

I URGE YOU TO BRING THAT UP.

TO ME IT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR THE CITY TO DEAL WITH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD YOU'VE JUST TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF THEM.

FINALLY, MY LAST COMMENT WITH 20 SECONDS TO GO IS, I THINK THAT THE NEW TOWN COUNCIL BUILDING AT $24 MILLION I WOULD VOTE THAT DOWN.

I WOULD SAY NO TO THAT.

I KNOW IT'S ON YOUR AGENDA.

I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY TOO MUCH MONEY AT THIS TIME OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR WORLD AND I'M DONE. THANKS.

[00:05:04]

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS IT.

>> ANYBODY ELSE? NONE. MOVING ON TO PRESENTATIONS.

[1. Healthier Jupiter – Joanna Peluso, Healthier Jupiter Project Director. #]

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, MS. JOANNA.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY HEALTHIER JUPITER.

>> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE THE TIME TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL ABOUT HEALTHIER JUPITER.

I'M JUST GOING TO SHARE SOME UPDATES AND SOME NEW PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, AS WELL AS SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR TRANSITION.

I AM JOANNA.

I'M THE PROJECT DIRECTOR WITH HEALTHIER JUPITER AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE ALL THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU.

[NOISE] I CLICK HERE.

I'M JUST GOING TO PRESS WHATEVER BUTTON I THINK IS SUPPOSED TO DO IT.

[NOISE] THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT HEALTHIER JUPITER, WE HAVE WORKED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, BRINGING THE GREATER JUPITER COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO ENCOURAGE EACH PERSON TO LIVE THEIR HEALTHIEST LIFE.

WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO DO THAT WORK UNDER A GRANT THROUGH JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER, THROUGH A GRANT PROVIDED BY PALM HEALTH FOUNDATION.

ALL WERE BEING LED BY COMMUNITY.

WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE EIGHT COMMITTEES WITH ABOUT 50 PLUS COMMITTEE MEMBERS AMONGST THOSE EIGHT COMMITTEES AND ABOUT 200 NETWORK PARTNERS.

WHAT I REALLY I'M HERE TO SHARE TODAY, IS THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR A LASTING IMPACT GRANT.

HEALTHIER JUPITER IS NOW TRANSITIONING.

WE NO LONGER WILL BE A PART OF JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER AT THE END OF JUNE.

AS PART OF THAT TRANSITION, WE WANT TO USE OUR REMAINING FUNDS, WHICH IS AN ESTIMATED $50,000 TO OFFER FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO PARTNERS TO CONTINUE ADDRESSING THE PRIORITY AREAS AROUND PROMOTING AND ENSURING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HEALTHY EATING AND ACTIVE LIVING, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO ENGAGE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IN HEALTHY BEHAVIORS, AND THEN ADVOCATING FOR IMPROVING COMMUNITY CONDITIONS IMPACTING HEALTH.

IF SOMEBODY IS INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THOSE LASTING IMPACT GRANTS, YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE AND THAT LINK IS AT THE BOTTOM.

THEN JUST A TEENY BIT MORE ABOUT THESE LASTING IMPACT GRANTS, WE WILL BE AWARDING UP TO $10,000 TO NOT-FOR-PROFIT GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, BUSINESSES, OR CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS.

WE TAKE THAT DEFINITION OF CIVIC ORGANIZATION TO INCLUDE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, HOUSES OF WORSHIP, ANYBODY THAT DOES SERVE THE GREATER JUPITER COMMUNITY.

THE GRANT APPLICATIONS WILL BE REVIEWED FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, THE CAPACITY TO TAKE ON A PROJECT, AND THE LENS TOWARDS SUSTAINABILITY THAT THEY'RE OFFERING THE PROJECT.

THEN THE ULTIMATE PURPOSE OF THESE GRANTS, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN GRANTS HEALTHIER JUPITER HAS DONE IN THE PAST, IS THEY'RE MEANT TO SUSTAIN AND GROW HIGH IMPACT PROJECTS THAT HEALTHIER JUPITER CURRENTLY COORDINATES, HAS PROPOSED FOR THE FUTURE OR AS PREVIOUSLY IMPLEMENTED AND MAYBE DIDN'T WORK OUT OR DIDN'T HAVE THE INTENDED GOAL AND MIGHT JUST NEED SOME NEW ENERGY BEHIND IT.

WE PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, CURRENTLY WORK ON, PROPOSED FOR THE FUTURE OR PREVIOUSLY IMPLEMENTED AT OUR WEBSITE FOR A PROGRAM EVALUATION.

YOU CAN SCAN THAT QR CODE AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU THERE.

THESE ONES ARE OPEN AND THE GRANT APPLICATIONS ARE DUE MAY 27TH.

THEN I DID JUST WANT TO SHARE A FEW UPDATES ON THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

I BELIEVE I PRESENTED IN SEPTEMBER, SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE UPDATED NUMBERS SINCE WE'VE DONE THAT, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER STUFF, BUT THESE ARE THE THREE THAT I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TONIGHT.

WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE THROUGH JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER AND A NOT-FOR-PROFIT PARTNER, FRESHRX, TO DO A FOOD AS MEDICINE PROGRAM FOR ONCOLOGY, CARDIOLOGY, AND PEDIATRIC PATIENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

TODAY, WE'VE IMPACTED 210 INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT WE ALSO PROVIDE ENOUGH FOOD TO FEED THE FAMILY.

THAT IS 16 WEEKS WORTH OF FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES THAT THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS NOW HAVE ACCESS TO.

WE'VE BEEN REALLY FORTUNATE TO DO A FEW WALK AUDITS WITH THE TOWN OF JUPITER AND THE PALM BEACH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY, AS WELL AS A FEW ADDITIONAL PARTNERS IN THE MIX.

WE DID DO BOTH DAYTIME WALK AUDITS WITH THE TOWN AND THE GPA AND THEN, A WALK GROUP THAT WE HAVE FOCUSED ON WALKING AND BIKING,

[00:10:01]

DID A FEW OF THOSE NIGHTTIME ONES ON OUR OWN.

WE DID FOUR AUDITS IN TOTAL OF THE INDIANTOWN ROAD CORRIDOR.

WE DID PARTNER, I KNOW LIMESTONE CREEK IS UNINCORPORATED, BUT WE DID DO ONE WALK AUDIT WITH LIMESTONE CREEK, AND THEN WE DID TWO AUDITS, ONE DURING THE DAY, ONE DURING THE NIGHT, IN PINE GARDENS SOUTH.

WHEN I SAY, SOME OF THEM HAVE THEIR JUPITER, WAS THEREFORE, OTHERS WE WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE THEIR INVITATIONS FROM THE TOWN AND THE GPA, AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP.

NOW THE NEXT PHASE OF WALK AUDITS IS TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO AS HEALTHIER JUPITER, AND THE WALK GROUP THAT WE DO HAVE AROUND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE SOME OF THE PROPOSED IDEAS THAT CAME FROM THE GPA, SEE THEM COME THROUGH, BUT THEN ALSO WORK WITH COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

THEN OUR COUCH TO 5K TRAINING PROGRAM, I KNOW I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY I HAVE A FAVORITE PROGRAM, BUT THAT ONE IS MY FAVORITE.

IT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER, TOWN OF JUPITER, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND THEN THIS YEAR WE ALSO WERE PARTNERED WITH THE ELS FOR AUTISM FOUNDATION, AND LIVE LIKE JAKE.

THIS YEAR WE HAD ABOUT 110 PEOPLE SIGN UP TO PARTICIPATE, ABOUT 50 PLUS PEOPLE ON AVERAGE, WE HAD OUR WEEKLY MEETUPS, WHICH IS A NINE-WEEK TRAINING PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE WALK OR RUN A 5K.

ONE OF THOSE I'VE ACTUALLY TWO OF THE PHOTOS ON THAT ARE FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

IT DRAWS ALL AGE GROUPS, FROM YOUTH TO SENIORS, AND IT REALLY IS A REALLY FUN TIME.

THEN WE HAD 35 PARTICIPANTS JOIN US AT THE TURTLE TROT AND YES, WE DID WIN BIGGEST TEAM, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

THEN ONE OTHER PROGRAM, I WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO, I KNOW WE ALL HAVE BEEN PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

A FEW COMMUNITY PARTNERS HAVE COME TOGETHER TO ORGANIZE A CAMPAIGN TO RAISE AWARENESS FOR MENTAL HEALTH, AND SO, THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR DOING IT, AND WHAT IT IS IS JUPITER MENTAL FITNESS WEEK.

JUST LIKE HOW WE STAY FIT BY GOING TO THE GYM, WALKING WITH FRIENDS, OR PLAYING SPORTS, WE CAN WORK ON OUR MENTAL FITNESS AS WELL.

IT IS GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT FOR ALL OF US.

WE'RE ASKING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SHARE PHOTOS FOR EACH OF THE THEME DAYS OF THE WEEK WITH THE #HEALTHIERJUPITER.

THEN THE MORE PHOTOS SHARED, THE MORE CHANCES THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE TO WIN A PRIZE, ALL FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND WE ARE REALLY, REALLY GRATEFUL.

IF YOU VISIT OUR WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BUSINESS PARTNERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED ON THIS.

THEN IF SOMEONE IS NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY CAN ALSO SUBMIT THEIR PHOTOS THROUGH THE LINK ABOVE, AND THEN THOSE ARE THE THEME DAYS OF THE WEEK, SO TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IS TALKING TUESDAY, WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH? WE HAD SELF-CARE SATURDAY AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO FRESH AIR FRIDAY, HOW DO YOU SPEND TIME OUTDOORS? THEN ALSO, IF YOU DO VISIT THAT WEBSITE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SOME PARTNERS TO PROMOTE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

THEN THAT IS ALL THAT I HAD TO PRESENT TODAY.

I DID WANT TO SHARE, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, HEALTHIER JUPITER'S GRANT WITH JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER WILL BE DONE AT THE END OF JUNE, AND AS PART OF THAT, WE'RE EXPLORING WHAT A POTENTIAL TRANSITION COULD BE FOR TAKING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE, HOW THEY CAN TRANSITION TO OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS THROUGH OUR LASTING IMPACT GRANTS, BUT WHERE OTHER PROJECTS MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXTEND AND GET ANOTHER LIFE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE JUPITER, BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY MORE PEOPLE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.

I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TEST OUT AND REALLY HAVE SOME SUCCESSES IN THE JUPITER COMMUNITY AROUND HEALTH AND WELLNESS, AND REALLY JUST ENCOURAGE THE TOWN AND OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MORE WE CAN DO TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY TO PROMOTE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

POTENTIALLY CONTINUE ON WITH SOME OF THE WORK GROUPS THAT WE HAVE, AT MAYBE COMMITTEE LEVEL, AT THE TOWN COUNCIL, OR JUST OTHER PARTNERSHIPS THAT COULD REALLY PROMOTE HEALTHY EATING AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY BECAUSE WE ALL NEED THOSE TWO THINGS FOR CHRONIC DISEASE PREVENTION, MENTAL HEALTH, AND OVERALL WELL-BEING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR EVERYBODY.

I KNOW I SAID 10 MINUTES, I SAVED ONE MINUTE FOR QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAVE THEM. THANK YOU.

>> DID YOU GET MY EMAIL?

>> I DID GET YOUR EMAIL.

[LAUGHTER] SORRY, I DIDN'T RESPOND, BUT WE EXCITEDLY SHARED IT AMONGST ALL OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL THAT IT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED, AND THAT THERE'S THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE US CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL PHYSICAL ACTIVITY OPPORTUNITIES.

>> MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE PUT IT IN A LETTER, BUT MAYBE WE'LL DO THAT.

BUT I DO THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD IT IN THE PRESENTATION.

I'LL JUST SHARE IT AS A PERSPECTIVE.

[00:15:02]

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE TALENT HAS CONDUCTED BI-ANNUAL RESONANCE SURVEYS FOR THE PAST 14-YEAR PERIOD, AND WE USE A NATIONAL FIRM TO DO SO, SO WE CAN BENCHMARK JUPITER VERSUS OTHER COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA AND IN OUR NATION.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE RESULTS THAT WE SAW IN LATEST SURVEY PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THE POSITIVE INFLUENCE THAT BOTH JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER AND HEALTHIER JUPITER HAS HAD ON OUR TOWN OF JUPITER.

THAT'S WHY I SHARED IT WITH YOU.

I DO THINK IT'S EXTRAORDINARY AND I REFERRED YOU A THIRD PAGE OF THE DOCUMENT, BUT I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IT HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I WISH I COULD HAVE PULLED IT UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT TO THE CATEGORIES THAT I THOUGHT FIT, I HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION IN WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING FOR THESE YEARS AND WHAT JUPITER MEDICAL HAS BEEN DOING FOR US, AND IN ONE CATEGORY ON CHARACTERISTICS THAT OUR RESIDENTS WAITED WAS IN FITNESS OPPORTUNITIES, AND 90 PERCENT FELT POSITIVE ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE TOWN.

STATISTICALLY, THEY FELT THAT WE WERE MUCH HIGHER THAN BENCHMARK, WHICH MEANS WE ARE MORE THAN 20 PERCENT HIGHER THAN BENCHMARK IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, SO WE CAME UP FIRST OUT OF 20 BENCHMARK COMMUNITIES, AND WE WERE HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL BENCHMARKS.

WE CAME OUT 10TH OF 282.

THAT'S HOW WE EVALUATE OUR COMMUNITY VERSUS OTHER COMMUNITIES EVALUATE THEMSELVES.

I THINK THAT'S EXTRAORDINARY.

THEN THE SECOND CATEGORY WAS OVER OUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS OPPORTUNITIES.

ONCE AGAIN, WE LET CASE, WE RATED OURSELVES SECOND OUT OF 24 COMMUNITIES RATED THEMSELVES.

ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, WE RATED OURSELVES 19TH OUT OF 291 COMMUNITIES.

I THINK IT REALLY SAYS A LOT.

CERTAINLY WE HAVE AMENITIES IN THE TOWN THAT ENCOURAGE THAT.

BUT NO DOUBT THAT HEALTHIER JUPITER HAS HAD A TREMENDOUS INFLUENCE AND WE HOPE THAT ENDS UP BEING LASTING.

BUT I'M GLAD YOU PASSED IT ON, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

[APPLAUSE]

>> WITH THAT, COUNCIL,

[MINUTES]

WE HAVE BEFORE YOU, THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 22ND TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP IN THE MAY 3RD TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.

I DON'T SEE ANY CHANGES ON THE DAIS.

>> SO MOVED.

>> [OVERLAPPING] SECOND.

>> MOTION IN THE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIED, FIVE, ZERO.

MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

BEFORE I ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PULL IT, I'D ASK IF I CAN PROPOSE MOVING AGENDA ITEM 10 TO THE CONSENT BECAUSE IT IS IN COMBINATION WITH AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, SO IT REALLY HAS TO BE TAKEN UP TOGETHER.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> THAT WAS A MOTION.

>> I CAN SECOND. SECOND.

>> SOMEBODY ELSE JUST TO SECOND.

>> SECOND. [LAUGHTER] I CAN'T SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'LL JUST LOOK AT THE AGENDA.

>> THAT MOTION IS JUST TO REORGANIZE THE AGENDA TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 10 TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT.

>> OKAY. NOW HAVING DONE THAT, DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?

>> YES, ITEM 5.

>> ITEM 5? OKAY.

>> GOOD EVENING. CRAIG MALLORY, 230 BLOCK AISLES LANE.

>> I'M SORRY. NO, WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH THE AGENDA RULE, WHICH CAN TAKE THEM OFF THE CONCERN.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE AN ITEM THEY WANT TO PULL?

>> I NEED TO PULL OUT NUMBER 3.

>> NUMBER 3.

>> I NEED TO ABSTAIN.

>> OKAY.

>> WHAT'S AN EMPLOYEE AT JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER? [NOISE] THAT IS ACTUALLY COMBINED WITH ITEM NUMBER 5.

I GUESS SINCE 5 WAS PULLED, 10 WILL BE PULLED.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GET IT OUT THERE.

AGAIN, SO ITEMS 3, 5 AND 10 ARE MOVE FROM CONSENT.

MOTION ON THE BALANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEM?

>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

[00:20:04]

>> I'M SORRY. I MEANT TO PULL NUMBER 6.

>> OKAY.

>> CAN I MAKE A REMOTION?

>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> 3, 5, 6, AND 10 HAVE BEEN PULLED.

[NOISE] EVERY MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES 5, 0.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM 3,

[3. Resolution 39-22, Jupiter Medical Center – Quasi-judicial - Site plan amendment to construct an addition to the central energy plant on a 27.3± acre property located at 1210 Old Dixie Highway.]

WHICH IS QUASI JUDICIAL.

I THINK THE VICE MAYOR IS ABSTAINING.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUASI JUDICIAL DISCLOSURES? NONE?

>> NONE.

>> THIS WAS SIMPLY FOR THE EXTINCTION.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CAN WE MOVE IT TO A MOTION?

>> YES.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.

>> SECOND.

>> NUMBER 3.

>> YEAH.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> THAT'S RESOLUTION 3922.

>> YEAH. MOTION AND A SECOND ON RESOLUTION 3922.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES 4, 0.

NOW MOVING TO THE COMBINATION OF AGENDA ITEMS 5 AND 10.

[Items 5 & 10]

IT WAS PULLED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.

>> YES. GREG MAORI.

>> I'LL TRY AGAIN.

>> GREG MAORI, 23 BLANCA ISLES LANE IN JUPITER.

BASED ON THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY PROVIDED AS A TAB 5, THERE IS AN APPARENT SHORTFALL OF FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.

THE TWO SOURCES OF FUNDING IDENTIFIED WERE THE ARPA FUNDS, 2.8 MILLION PLUS, AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FOR 243,000 PLUS, TOTALING 3,054,931.

THE AWARD IS FOR 3,273,930, AND A SHORTFALL OF $219,000.

IF YOU WILL APPROVE THIS ITEM, AS A CITIZEN, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY REVISED TO RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FUNDING. THANK YOU.

>> ANY COMMENT FROM STAFF ON THAT?

>> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DEFER THAT OVER TO DAVID BROWN.

>> LET ME JUST FIND THE CORRECT PAGE REAL QUICK.

GOOD EVENING, YOU-ALL.

I CAN WALK US THROUGH THE BUDGET SUMMARY THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. THERE WE GO.

RELATIVE TO THE REMAINING ANTICIPATED EXPENSES, WHICH IS HALFWAY DOWN THE PINE GARDENS NORTH INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, WAS 2012 PROJECT BUDGET DATED APRIL 28TH, '22.

YOU'LL SEE A BOLDED HEADING THAT SAYS, REMAINING ANTICIPATED EXPENSES TO COMPLETE PINE GARDENS NORTH, COMING IN AT 3,534,934, WITH A TOTAL BUDGET OF $3,902,043.

TO FUND THE REMAINING AMOUNT OF THE PROJECT, IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF THAT THERE BE A TRANSFER OF $480,000 FROM THE SEMINAL BASIN PROJECT, THE JUNO STREET PROJECT.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE PARALLEL PARKING OR THE PARKING TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON OLD DIXIE HIGHWAY, THAT PROGRESS THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

IT LAGGED A LITTLE BIT.

THAT PORTION OF WHAT WAS THE SEMINAL BASIN WORK IS DEFERRED AND INCLUDED IN THIS CONTRACT.

WE STATED IN THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR THE SEMINAL BASIN THAT WE WOULD TRANSFER THE MONEY FOR THAT WORK THAT WILL OCCUR ON OLD DIXIE, FLORIDA AVENUE, AND SEMINAL AVENUE TO THE PINE GARDENS PROJECT WHEN IT IS AWARDED.

THAT IS THAT $480,000.

THERE'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED CDBG GRANT FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT OF $243,264.

THEN TO BRING THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE REMAINING ANTICIPATED EXPENSES UP TO 3.5 MILLION AS DISCUSSED, $2,811,667 ARE RECOMMENDED TO BE ALLOCATED FROM THE SECOND TRANCHE OF ARPA FUNDING,

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FULFILLING ALL OF THE FUNDING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE REMAINING WORK WITHIN THE PROJECT.

>> I GUESS THE PUBLIC PULLED IT BECAUSE ON PAGE 3 OF THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THERE WAS A BUDGET SHORTFALL.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ISSUE I'M HEARING.

>> OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I GOT YOU.

RELATIVE TO WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL $258,882 IN ADDITION THAT NEEDED TO BE FUNDED.

PART OF THAT IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS ANY REMAINING SWALE REHABILITATION WORK IN PINE GARDENS NORTH.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S IN AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE'RE GOING IN AND TRYING OUR BEST TO BRING THE STORM-WATER LEVEL OF SERVICE CLOSE TO THE TOWNS LEVEL OF SERVICE.

THERE MAY BE SOME REMEDIAL WORK THAT WILL NEED TO OCCUR ONCE ALL THE NEW STRUCTURES AND THE NEW PIPE FITTINGS INSTALLED TO RE-ESTABLISH FLOW LINES FROM ALL THE EXISTING SWALES AND THE DRIVEWAY OPENINGS TO MAKE IT WORK HYDRAULICALLY.

THERE'S A CONTINGENCY BUILT INTO THIS PROJECT TO JUST GET IT DONE RIGHT.

>> THAT'S SUDDEN EXPLANATION.

I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW COMPLETELY.

SO HOW WOULD THIS CHANGE HERE ON THIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY SHEET?

>> I WOULDN'T CHANGE IT.

>> BUT IT IMPLIES THAT THE BUDGET HAS X AND THE RESOLUTION IS SPENDING MORE THAN THE BUDGET.

>> WHAT IT DOES STATE IS THE TOTAL PROJECT EXPENSES ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE $258,882 GREATER THAN THE PRIOR TOTAL AMOUNT APPROPRIATED AMOUNTS.

THAT EQUATES TO A SEVEN PERCENT INCREASE FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED THROUGH THE CIP PROCESS.

TO FUND WHAT IS REMAINING UNDER THIS PROJECT, THAT WAS WHY WE SET FORTH EXACTLY WHAT I JUST WENT THROUGH RELATIVE [INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT'S EFFECTIVELY, I'M JUST GETTING YOU TO SUMMARIZE THAT.

IT GOES INTO THE SHEET HERE, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM?

>> YES. IT IS GOING TO GET FUNDED [INAUDIBLE]

>> YES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SUMMARIZING AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

HOW THAT MOVES UP HERE? THEN THAT REMEDIES WHAT THE PUBLIC WAS QUESTIONING.

>> TO CLARIFY, THE $258,882 IS ADDRESSED WITHIN THE $3,534,931 THAT NEEDS TO FUND THE REMAINING EXPENSES FOR THE PROJECT.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> MAYOR, I THINK WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS TO UPDATE THE CHART.

WE CAN UPDATE TO REFLECT WHAT DAVID BROWN IS SPEAKING ABOUT.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MY COLLEAGUES ARE SATISFIED WITH THE EXPLANATION GIVEN. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> REMEMBER, THIS ONE COVERS TWO ITEMS. IT COVERS RESOLUTION 4822 AND RESOLUTION 4622.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION?

>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> I MOVE THE RESOLUTION 4622.

THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, AFTER YOU VOTE ON THAT ONE, A SECOND MOTION ON RESOLUTION 4822.

>> TEN FIRST.

>> RESOLUTION MOVE OF 4622.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND FOR RESOLUTION 4622.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES, 5, 0.

MOVING BACK TO RESOLUTION 4822.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 4822.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES, 5-0.

MOVING TO RESOLUTION ITEM NUMBER 6, RESOLUTION 5522.

[6. Approving the employment contract with Mr. Frank Kitzerow for the Town Manager position. (continued from 5/3/22) [materials to be distributed]]

[BACKGROUND] ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON RESOLUTION 5522? THE ONLY ONE.

[00:30:02]

OKAY. WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ONE TONIGHT.

I HAVE SOME ISSUES I WANT TO DISCUSS, BUT WE DO NEED TO TAKE ACTION AND IMPROVING THE EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT.

THIS IS A SOMEWHAT UNIQUE WHEN WE DO THIS EVERY ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE WITH AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT.

IT'S A NEGOTIATED CONTRACT.

I NEGOTIATED AND WORK WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND KATE BROUGHT FORTH THE EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT, THEN IT WASN'T APPROVED IN COUNCIL SCHNEIDER HAD A NUMBER OF CHANGES SHE WANTED TO MAKE THAT WE NOW HAVE IN FRONT OF US ON THE DYESS.

I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE CONTRACT AS IT IS, SO WE REALLY JUST NEED TO WALK IT TO BRING IT TO CLOSURE.

>> QUESTION. I THOUGHT WE HAD MOVED 6.1, WHICH WAS THE RESOLUTION THAT WE APPROVED 6.

>> WELL, [OVERLAPPING] I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA HAD GOTTEN, MY INTENTION WAS PULLING.

I DIDN'T HAVE THE REVISED AGENDA.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE COMBINED.

>> OKAY.

>> I THOUGHT THE MAYOR PULLED 6.

>> I THOUGHT HE PULLED 6.1.

>> I PULLED 6, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE THE MARKUP ON THE AGENDA, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THE RESOLUTION WITHOUT APPROVING THE AGREEMENT, SO I PULLED 6 ON THE AGREEMENT.

>> OKAY. IF SOMEONE FROM THE PREVAILING SIDE WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AGENDA ITEM 6, THEN YOU CAN TAKE THAT UP.

>> MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM 6.

>> SECOND.

>> OKAY. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ALL IN FAVOR, I.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

>> I.

>> I.

>> MOTION CARRIES 50.

I THINK THAT THE CHANGES THAT WERE INCORPORATED ARE UNIQUE FROM ANYTHING I'VE SEEN FOR A GENERAL MANAGER.

I'M GOING TO JUST, FOR THE MOST PART, JUST GO TO THE SECTION 14 AND PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.

GOT TWO SECTIONS IN THERE.

ONE THAT SAYS, PRIOR TO JUNE 1, THE TOWN IS GOING TO CONDUCT A PERFORMANCE APPRAISAL OF THE MANAGER IN ACCORDANCE WITH PERFORMANCE STANDARDS SET FORTH AND ATTACHMENT 1D AGREEMENT.

AND THEN SECONDLY, IT TALKS ABOUT SETTING UP WITHIN SO MANY DAYS, A PROCESS TO CONDUCT THE EVALUATIONS.

MY CONCERN IS THAT ATTACHMENT 1, ALTHOUGH IT DOES STATE WE MAY TAKE IN A CONSIDERATION SOME OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, IT LIMITS IT TO THAT.

[OVERLAPPING] WELL, LET ME JUST FINISH.

TWENTY SIX PERFORMANCE CRITERIA TO 16 AS LISTED.

I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO BE BOUND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

BUT PERFORMANCE STANDARDS DEFINED BY ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WITHOUT ANY WEIGHTING CRITERIA, AND IF I THINK BACK IN YEARS PAST, EACH ONE OF US ON A COUNCIL HAS AN EQUAL RIGHT TO SAY WHETHER THE PERFORMANCE IS SATISFACTORY OR NOT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS CAN BE APPLIED.

A SET CRITERIA THAT WE'RE AGREEING TO NOW, THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED, AND HOPEFULLY AGREED UPON BY THE COUNCIL, BUT THAT MAY CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

I'M JUST REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED THAT I READ, IT SAYS THAT, WE DO A PERFORMANCE APPRAISAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN ATTACHMENT 1.

I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE WHAT'S ON ATTACHMENT 1.

I'M OKAY WITH ATTACHMENT 1, BEING THE ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW.

BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE BEING BOUND BY IT.

JUST AS A SUGGESTION, THE SECOND ITEM WHICH SAYS BY NO LATER THAN 90 DAYS FROM THE EXECUTION OF THIS AGREEMENT THE TOWN SHALL AGREE UPON AND PUT IN PLACE A PROCESS FOR CONDUCTING THE ANNUAL EVALUATIONS FOR THE MANAGER.

SUGGESTING COULD BE NUMBER 1 90 DAYS PUTS US IN A THICK OF THE BUDGET CYCLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVIDENCE YOU WOULD BE, SO MY SUGGESTION ON THAT ONE IS, BY NO LATER THAN 180 DAYS FROM SOME EXECUTION AND AGREEMENT, THE TOWN SHALL AGREE UPON AND PUT IN PLACE, THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION CRITERIA AND PROCESS FOR CONDUCTING, AND I WOULD PUT THE FIRST ANNUAL EVALUATION BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE BOUND EACH YEAR.

[00:35:05]

IT MAY CHANGE FROM YEAR-TO-YEAR.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH YOU GO FROM YEAR-TO-YEAR, YOU END UP A REVIEW, YOU SET MAYBE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT WE WANT THE TOWN MANAGER AND COUNSEL TO WORK TOWARDS ACHIEVING IN THE COMING YEAR.

I'LL PAUSE THERE.

>> CAN I RESPOND? THE ATTACHMENT 1 LANGUAGE IS NOT AN OBLIGATION.

IT IS SPECIFICALLY DRAFTED TO SAY MAY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, WHICH MEANS IT'S AN OPTIONAL, SOME OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING.

IT'S COMPLETELY OPTIONAL, IS ONLY A GUIDELINE.

IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD SET PERFORMANCE CRITERIA FOR TOWN MANAGER.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A VERY LOOSE JOB DESCRIPTION WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT ARE THE METRICS WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

IT'S NEVER BEEN SPELLED OUT.

I WANT IT TO HAVE SOME GUIDELINES IN THERE.

WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE OF THE POSITION, AND ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT OBLIGATE YOU TO DO ANYTHING.

THAT'S WHY IT SAYS MAY IN SOME OR ALL.

IT'S NOT AN OBLIGATION.

IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT TO 180 DAYS FOR THE PROCESS, THAT'S FINE.

BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IS WE WRITE CONTRACTS, THEY GETS STUCK IN THE DRAWER.

THE PROCESS IS NEVER COMPLETED, AND YOU CAN TELL THAT BY THE FACT THAT WE STILL DON'T REALLY HAVE A FIRM PROCESS FOR HOW DO WE EVALUATE THE TOWN MANAGER? HOW DID WE GO THROUGH THE CONTRACTS? WE CAN SEE THAT BY THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH NOW.

WHAT I WANTED TO DO, WAS TO ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING SET, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN SET.

>> UNDERSTAND. TICKETS ARE UNFAIR TO SUGGEST THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE, BECAUSE WE HAD SET PERFORMANCE CRITERIA FOR ACCOUNT MANAGERS.

I HAVE SOME HERE THAT WE'VE HAD.

AS A COUNCIL, SOME YEARS AGO, EVERY YEAR WE WOULD DECIDE UPON WHAT THE CRITERIA WAS, AND THEN EACH OF US AS INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO BE PART OF 41 MINORITY, AND YOU'RE BOUND BY WHAT THE OTHERS THINK IS ACCEPTABLE.

NO. EACH ONE OF US HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE WHAT IS SATISFACTORY BASED ON HOW WE FEEL WE NEED TO SERVE THE PUBLIC THAT ELECTED US, SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THAT.

I UNDERSTAND FOR YOU WANTING TO, AND RESPECT THAT, THAT WE WANT TO DEFINE SOMETHING, WHICH IS WHY THE LANGUAGE I WAS PROPOSING WAS, LET'S WORK ON IT TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL WITHIN A PERIOD OF TIME.

THAT'S WHERE THE LANGUAGE I WAS PROPOSING THAT THE TOWN SHALL AGREE UPON, AND PUT IN PLACE THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION CRITERIA, IN A PROCESS FOR CONDUCTING THE FIRST ANNUAL, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE HAVING A CONTRACT BOUND BY WHAT WE THINK.

AGAIN, ONE COUNCIL MEMBER OR WHAT WE EVEN THINK FOR ONE YEAR, MAY CHANGE YEAR-TO-YEAR.

ALL PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS DO.

GO AHEAD.

>> SORRY. I REMEMBER, WITH THE LAST TOWN MANAGER BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DAIS SIDE, I CAME AND GAVE REMARKS, AND AS PART OF THEM, I HAD DONE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

IT WAS FOR ANY RECORD OF PERFORMANCE EVALUATION FOR PREVIOUS TOWN MANAGER AND THERE WAS NONE.

I THINK THAT WAS THE CONCERN WAS THAT JUST BEING ABLE TO SOMEHOW MANAGE THAT OR HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS PUBLIC.

A LOT OF THESE VALUATIONS ARE PUBLIC RECORD AND THAT MAKES THEM VERY UNUSUAL.

BUT I THINK WHAT I SEE HERE IS JUST A RESOURCE FOR COUNCIL.

I SEE IT AS SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.

I DON'T MIND THE 180 DAYS WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS VERSUS THE 90 DAYS, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT IN DETERMINING THAT PROCESS, WE CAN DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF THIS WE WANT TO CONSIDER OR NOT.

IT'S NOT BINDING IN ANY WAY.

I VIEWED IT AS A RESOURCE AND HAVING ONLY RECENTLY BEEN A MEMBER OF THIS AUDIENCE, JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER IN TERMS OF PARAMETERS.

WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE LOOK AND DETERMINE ON THE PROCESS, WE CAN USE IT OR NOT, BUT IT'S A RESOURCE.

>> NOT THE WAY SECTION 14 CURRENTLY LEADS.

>> OKAY.

>> I DISAGREE THAT IT READS THE WAY YOU SAY, BUT WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO GET IT DONE SO I'M FINE WITH THAT.

>> EVERYBODY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

>> THE AMOUNT OF TIME I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL, WE'VE NEVER REVIEWED THE TOWN MANAGER, SO I APPRECIATE ALL THIS ATTACHMENT, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT I ALSO GOING FORWARD, WE NEED FLEXIBILITY SO I GUESS I WOULD REFER TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO WHAT'S THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR US TO HAVE THIS ON RECORD AND PUT A DATE WHERE WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE,

[00:40:03]

WHERE WE GET TOGETHER AND CODIFY ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE EXPECT THAT THE TOWN MANAGER.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ADJUST THIS YEARLY?

>> WELL, I'LL JUST TELL YOU WHAT MY EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST IN JUPITER BUT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IS.

PERFORMANCE CRITERIA FOR EVALUATION DOESN'T GO IN AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT.

THE COUNCIL USUALLY MEETS AND ESTABLISHES THE PERFORMANCE CRITERIA THAT THEY WANT AND EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL HAS INPUT INTO THAT CRITERIA.

THEN YOU ESTABLISH THE CRITERIA FOR YOUR ANNUAL REVIEW.

THAT CRITERIA IS WRITTEN, THE MANAGER GETS A COPY OF IT, YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT.

THESE ATTACHMENTS, ONCE THEY COULD BE THE START OF YOUR REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE MANAGER, YOU MAY CHOOSE TO ADD TO IT, YOU MAY CHOOSE TO DELETE TO IT BUT AS A GROUP, YOU WOULD DECIDE WHAT THE BASIS OF HIS VALUATION IS GOING TO BE.

IF IT'S KEPT IN THE CONTRACT, IF YOU CHANGE IT IN THE FUTURE, THEN YOU HAVE TO REOPEN THE CONTRACT TO AMEND THE CRITERIA THAT YOU'VE ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE CONTRACT.

I'M JUST OFFERING YOU WHAT MY EXPERIENCE I'VE REVIEWED IN OTHER CITIES.

LAKE PARK, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A REVIEW TOMORROW NIGHT OF THE MANAGERS CONTRACT BASED UPON CRITERIA THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED AND GOALS THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED FOR THAT MANAGER.

THAT'S WHAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY COUNCIL'S CHOICE AS TO WHETHER THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE THE ATTACHMENT IN TO THE AGREEMENT OR NOT.

BUT IF YOU DO, IF YOU CHANGE THAT CRITERIA, THEN YOU GOT TO CHANGE THE CONTRACT.

>> I APPRECIATED THE ATTACHMENT.

IT'S A STARTING POINT, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

I JUST FEEL IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS OF THE COUNCIL.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS SPELLING OUT, LET'S DO THAT IN THE PROCESS, COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT BUT I ALSO I DON'T WANT TO BE BOUND BY YEAR-TO-YEAR BECAUSE THAT SHOULD BE DONE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

>> TOWN ATTORNEY, IF WE HAD TO REOPEN THE CONTRACT DOWN THE ROAD, DOES THAT LEAVE THIS WHOLE CONTRACT OPEN FOR CHANGES JUST FOR ME TO THE CONTRACT ITSELF OR BENEFITS OR SALARIES OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> EITHER PARTY CAN PROPOSE WHATEVER AMENDMENTS.

>> I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THAT, ARE MY COLLEAGUES INTERESTED IN REOPENING OF THE CONTRACT?

>> IT SAYS MAY, YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED.

YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW IT'S GUIDELINES.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OUT, WE CAN TAKE IT OUT.

BUT I THINK THAT THE JOB OF THE TOWN MANAGER STAYS THE SAME THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TERM OF THE CONTRACT.

SO TO SAY THAT THE PERFORMANCE CRITERIA HAS TO CHANGE YOU WOULD HEAR DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.

THE JOB IS THE JOB AND WE SHOULD KNOW UP FRONT WITH THE CRITERIA AND WHAT THE TOWN MANAGER IS EXPECTED TO DO.

TO ME, IT SHOULD BE SET.

I DON T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT CHANGES, BUT AGAIN, WHATEVER THE MAJORITY WANTS TO.

>> THERE IS A POINT TO HAVING A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS ON THIS, BUT I ALSO WANT THIS APPROVED FOR FRANK.

IS THERE A WAY TO APPROVE IT AS AMENDED IF WE PROPOSE AMENDMENTS OR IS THIS REQUIRED TO BE DELAYED?

>> ALLOW ME TO SUGGEST THAT THE PERIOD THEY PUT AT THE END OF MANAGER IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, PRIOR TO JUNE ONE OF EACH YEAR, THE TOWN SHALL CONDUCT A PERFORMANCE APPRAISAL OF THE MANAGER, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THIS JUNE 1.

THEN DELETE THE A AND SUBSTITUTE THE LANGUAGE NO LATER THAN 100 DAYS FROM THE EXECUTION OF THIS AGREEMENT.

TOWN COUNCIL SHALL AGREE UPON AND PUT IN PLACE PERFORMANCE CRITERIA TO EVALUATE THE MANAGER IN A PROCESS FOR CONDUCTING THE ANNUAL EVALUATION.

SO WITHIN SIX MONTHS, YOU'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON ATTACHMENT 1, WHAT YOU LIKE, WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE, WHAT YOU WANT TO ADD OR WHAT YOU WANT TO DELETE, IT'S YOUR PROCESS.

YOU ESTABLISH IT.

ONCE YOU'VE ESTABLISH THAT CRITERIA, IT'S PUBLISHED, IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC OR ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO READ IT AND THE MANAGER KNOWS WHAT HIS CHARGE IS WITH RESPECT TO HOW YOU'RE GOING TO EVALUATE.

[00:45:10]

>> AS PROPOSED THERE, DOESN'T MEAN WE WOULD WAIT 100 DAYS.

WE COULD START ALREADY WITH [OVERLAPPING].

>> NOT LATER THAN.

>> YEAH. IT'S MEANS, IT'S COMPLETED BY THEN.

>> RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE A DRAFT FOR YOU ALL CAN TAKE AS AN ASSIGNMENT AND WE COME BACK AT SOME OTHER TIME AND SEE IF WE CAN MERGE IT TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOME CONSENSUS OR MAKE IT GENERIC ENOUGH THAT EVERYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

>> FIND A POINT IN TIME. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A LOW AFTER THIS SEASON AND ALL THAT, SO THAT'D BE OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT AS LONG AS THERE'S A DEADLINE, WELL, WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT I WANT TO SAY AS A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE NOT LONG AGO, ATTACHMENT 1 REPRESENTS ENORMOUS PROGRESS IN TERMS OF HOW WE APPROACH THE EVALUATION OF A TOWN MANAGER.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD APPRECIATE.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.

I KNOW I GOT THIS PRETTY LATE TODAY, SO IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO PROCESS AND DISCUSS FURTHER, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC SEEING IT AND DISCUSSING IT. I WOULD AGREE TO IT.

>> I AGREE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE IS AMENDED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I.

>> I.

>> I.

>> I.

>>I.

>> 1.

>> PAUSED. MOTION CARRIES FIVE, ZERO.

NOW, THE MOTION WE PROBABLY HAVE TO BACKUP BECAUSE WE HAD TWO ITEMS, WE HAD THE CONTRACT AND WE HAD THE RESOLUTION SO WE JUST APPROVE THE CONTRACT.

YOU WANT MAKE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT DIFFERENT ITEMS?

>> MOVE.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS IS ON RESOLUTION 5522.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I.

>> I.

>> I.

>> I.

>> I.

>> I.

>> MOTION CARRIES FIVE, ZERO.

THAT COMPLETES THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. MOVING TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, ORDINANCE 422 ON FIRST READING.

[8. Ordinance 4-22, First Reading, Private Property Right Elements Text Amendment – Town-initiated amendment to create a property rights element as required by Florida Statutes Section 163.3177(6)(i)1. (Second Reading – 7/19/22)]

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MARTIN SCHNEIDER, I'M A PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

I'LL JUST GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD A STATE-REQUIRED PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT.

IN 2021, THE GOVERNOR SIGNED HOUSE BILL 59, WHICH REQUIRED EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO ADOPT A PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT INTO ITS COMP PLAN.

THE ELEMENT WAS REQUIRED TO CONTAIN LANGUAGE REQUIRING CERTAIN RIGHTS BE CONSIDERED IN LOCAL DECISION-MAKING.

THE TOWN'S PROPOSED ELEMENT CONTAINS THE STATE'S EXACT REQUIRED LANGUAGE.

THE ELEMENT IS REQUIRED TO BE ADOPTED PRIOR TO ADOPTION OF ANY OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT OR AS PART OF THE YEAR-BASED AMENDMENTS, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

WE'RE PROCESSING THIS AMENDMENT NOW, TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL DELAYS TO ANY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL OR ANY PRIVATE APPLICANT MAY WANT TO PROPOSE IN THE FUTURE.

THE REQUIRED AMENDMENT LANGUAGE LISTS CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS THAT ARE TO BE CONSIDERED IN LOCAL DECISION-MAKING PROCESS, THESE ARE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED BY EXISTING LAWS, INCLUDING THE US CONSTITUTION, THE STATE CONSTITUTION IN THE BERT J. HARRIS PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ACT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT TO ADD THE STATE-REQUIRED PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ACTING AS THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON APRIL 12.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING WHICH IS THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING, IF YOU APPROVE IT, IT WILL BE SENT TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WITHIN A WEEK'S TIME.

THEY WILL REVIEW IT, IF THERE'S NO ISSUES THEN WE WOULD PLACE IT ON THE JULY 19, TOWN COUNCIL AGENDA FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

WITH THAT, I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ANY QUESTIONS.

>> AT ONE POINT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER, YOU SAID THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO LOOK AT OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES AT THE SAME TIME, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AFTER THE TRANSMITTAL LETTER?

>> THAT'S THE YEAR OR THE EVALUATION APPRAISAL PROCESS WHICH WE'RE GOING THROUGH.

[00:50:05]

THIS COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT, BUT WE'RE TAKING IT EARLIER BECAUSE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT CAME UP THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS DESIGNED FOR WOULD BE DELAYED UNTIL WE HAD THIS IN PLACE.

SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS CAN BE MADE, WE MOVED IT FORWARD, BUT THE YEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT'S WHEN WE CAN INCORPORATE OTHER ITEMS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> YES. ANNA CUREN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ANNA CUREN, I LIVE AT 720 NORTH HIGHWAY A1A.

CONGRATULATIONS MR. MAYOR AND THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW APPOINTMENT.

THIS IS A NEW PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT, IS INTENDED TO ESTABLISH THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANT TO USE THEIR PROPERTY FOR THEIR OWN GOOD AND BAD CONTRAST.

IT SHOWS THE DISTINCT DIFFERENCE FROM PUBLIC PROPERTY, WHICH IS USED FOR PUBLIC GOOD.

PRIVATE PROPERTY CREATES INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO IMPROVE THEIR STANDARD OF LIVING VIA THE ECONOMIC INSTITUTION OF CAPITALISM.

PROPERTY RIGHTS HAS BEEN THE ECONOMIC CHAMPION AND MODEL OF PROSPERITY THROUGHOUT WORLD HISTORY AND THEY ARE INSEPARABLY LINKED.

PRIVATE PROPERTY IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE HAPPINESS OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL AND IS IMPORTANT AS CANNOT BE OVERSTATED WITHOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY OR HOUSING, FARMING, AND INDUSTRY WOULD SIMPLY BE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS AND THE WORD COMMUNISM.

PROPERTY IS THE THING THAT CONSISTS NOT MERELY OF OWNERSHIP AND POSSESSION, BUT INCLUDES UNRESTRICTED RIGHT TO USE, ENJOY, AND DISPOSE OF IT.

ANYTHING THAT DESTROYS ANY OF THE ELEMENTS OF PROPERTY TO THAT EXTENT DESTROYS PROPERTY ITSELF.

THIS SUBSTANTIAL VALUE OF PROPERTY LIES IN THE SHOES.

KARL MARX SAID IN THE MANIFESTO OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY WAS TO BE ABOLISHED.

THROUGHOUT HISTORY, THE SOVIET GOVERNMENT HAD NO PROPERTY RIGHTS, NO FREEDOM OF ENTERPRISE, AND NO PROTECTIONS OF INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS.

PRESENT-DAY RUSSIA CONFISCATED LAND IN THE NAME OF LAND MANAGEMENT AND PRESENTLY WE SEE THE HORRORS OF WAR AS THEY FORCIBLY SEIZE LAND FOR THE UKRAINIANS.

OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES IS ALREADY FULL OF PUBLIC BENEFIT TERMS. IN THE PAST ACTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN THAT REQUIRED THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC BENEFIT RATHER THAN ADDRESS A PUBLIC IMPACT CAUSED BY A PROPOSED USE.

LANDOWNERS HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO RELINQUISH VALUE TO THE TOWN IN ORDER TO GAIN APPROVAL OF THEIR PLANS.

WHEN YOU REVIEW PLANS UNDER THIS NEW ELEMENT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, MAKE SURE THE PLANS PROTECT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF LANDOWNERS.

HOLD YOURSELVES TO A HIGH LEVEL OF INTEGRITY, YOUR FUTURE ACTIONS MUST NEITHER DESTROY A FUNDAMENTAL ATTRIBUTE OF OWNERSHIP NOR IMPOSE A PRIVATE BURDEN ON A LANDOWNER FOR A PUBLIC BENEFIT.

I'VE PREPARED A LIST OF PROPERTY RIGHTS LAWS FOR YOU TO USE WHEN REVIEWING PLANS AND I HOPE EITHER THIS LIST OR A SIMILAR LIST WILL BE PROVIDED TO EVERY LANDOWNER THAT SEEKS TO HAVE THE TOWN OF JUPITER'S APPROVAL TO CHANGE PROPERTY ZONING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

OKAY COUNCIL. BACK FOR DELIBERATIONS. YOUR MOTION?

>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION IN THE SECOND, ON FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO READ THE ORDINANCE.

>> CORRECT. ORDINANCE 422.

AN ORDINANCE WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL OF TOWN OF JUPITER, FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 57-89, THE COMPREHENSIVE PARTNER, THE TOWN OF JUPITER,

[00:55:01]

PROVIDING FOR THE CREATION OF A PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> CAN ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE?

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES 50.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9,

[9. Resolution 43-22, Authorizing Change Order No. 5 to the Town’s contract with Kaufman Lynn Construction accepting a Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) amendment and funding plan for the construction of the new Town Hall building in an amount not to exceed $24,794,051.]

WHICH IS RESOLUTION 43-22.

MY WIFE, TERRY'S NIECE, WORKED FOR KAUFMAN LYNN CONSTRUCTION WHICH THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY ELECTED TO OVERSEE THE TOWN HALL PROJECT.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PALM BEACH COUNTY COMMISSION ON ETHICS, CODE OF ETHICS FOR EMPLOYEES AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS, SECTION 2-443, I'M ABSTAINING FROM PARTICIPATING IN THIS AGENDA ITEM.

>> I GUESS WE'RE GETTING A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.

MR. VICE MAYOR, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR.

>> MIKE VILLELLA, CFO FOR THE TOWN AND PROJECT MANAGER.

WE HAVE GONE OVER THIS PROJECT A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH THE COUNCIL AND WITH THE PUBLIC JUST REVIEWING THE THE HIGHLIGHTS THIS EVENING OF THE FINAL GMP, WHICH IS A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE [NOISE] FOR THE KAUFMAN LYNN CONTRACT.

THIS IS THE FINAL AMENDMENT THAT WE NEED TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THIS PROJECT.

AS A VERY, VERY BRIEF SUMMARY, IN 2017, IN 2018 THE TOWN HAD STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING STUDIES DONE OF THIS TOWN HALL BUILDING.

IT WAS DEEMED AT THAT TIME THAT IT WAS IN NEED OF MORE THAN $10 MILLION OF RENOVATIONS TO MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR LONG-TERM USE.

IT WAS THE DETERMINATION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD REPLACE THE BUILDING AT THAT TIME.

THE FIRST PART OF THAT HAPPENED WHEN WE BUILT THE NEW POLICE STATION AND EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER THAT WE COMPLETED LAST YEAR.

SINCE THAT TIME THE COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED STAFF TO SEEK ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL WORK TO BUILD THE NEW TOWN HALL FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TONIGHT.

YOU ALL HAVE REVIEWED THE PLANS OF THE BUILDING, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A PRELIMINARY GMP JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND TONIGHT WE'RE JUST HERE TO REVIEW THE FINAL TOTAL MAXIMUM COST OF THE PROJECT ALONG WITH THE FINANCING PLAN.

[NOISE] AS YOU SAW IN YOUR PACKET, WE HAVE A TOTAL GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FROM KAUFMAN LYNN OF $24.7 MILLION.

WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT SOME VALUED ENGINEERING FOR SOME OF THE FINISHES AS WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO.

AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE CAN STILL MAINTAIN A LONG-TERM LOWER-COST OPTION, WE WILL DO THAT AS WE PROCEED WITH THE FINISH OF THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.

THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TO REFINE A LOWER NUMBER OF COSTS FOR THE PROJECT.

THE FINANCING PLAN.

NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

PENNY SURTAX, THERE'S $40 MILLION THAT THE TAXPAYERS VOTED ON IN 2019.

WE HAVE SPENT 12 MILLION IN CHANGE TO BUILD A POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH CONTRIBUTIONS FROM OTHER FUNDS.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO SPEND $9 MILLION FOR THE BUILDING OF THE TOWN HALL BECAUSE THE TWO ENTERPRISE FUNDS; THE BUILDING FUND AND THE WATER FUND HAVE SIGNIFICANT EMPLOYEES IN THAT NEW TOWN HALL BUILDING.

WE'RE TAKING THE PRO-RATA NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES COMPARED TO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND THEN ALLOCATING THE COST ALLOCATION TO BOTH OF THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

THE BUILDING FUND WILL BE CONTRIBUTING $7.1 MILLION, THE WATER FUND $2.9 MILLION.

THAT LEAVES ABOUT $5.6 MILLION THAT WILL COME FROM THE TOWN TO GENERAL FUND.

AS WE REPORTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE HAVE SLIGHTLY OVER $51 MILLION IN OUR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE.

THAT IS MONEY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATING IN WHAT WE TYPICALLY CALL OUR RAINY DAY FUND.

WE ADDED ABOUT 3.5 MILLION DOLLARS TO THAT LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY FINANCE THE PURCHASE OF THE TAYLOR PROPERTY WITH A VERY LOW-COST BOND OF LESS THAN ONE PERCENT INTEREST, WHICH IS BEING PAID FOR IT DIRECTLY BY THE TAXPAYERS.

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WE'RE TAKING THAT $3.3 MILLION, TAKING ANOTHER $2 MILLION AND THAT'S PAYING FOR THE BALANCE OF THE BUILDING WHICH AS I STATED WHEN I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO, THAT'S A GOOD USE OF GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE.

IT'S A ONETIME USE, PROVIDES A STRUCTURE THAT SHOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

IT'S NOT AN ONGOING USE OF GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE, WHICH I HAVE ALWAYS STOOD UP HERE AND OPPOSED DOING BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A ONE-TIME USE AND SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT THE PUBLIC FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE.

WE'RE ASKING REALLY FOR THREE THINGS THIS EVENING.

WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THREE RESOLUTIONS; 43-22 IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE WITH KAUFMAN LYNN, 44-22 IS THE USE OF THE SURTAX FUNDS.

WE HAVE TO GET A RESOLUTION APPROVED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION.

BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS IN ADVANCE OF THEIR COLLECTION, WE'RE GOING TO USE A BRIDGE LOAN FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE SURTAX FUND FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 45-22 TO APPROVE THAT TEMPORARY BRIDGE LOAN.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DELIBERATE THIS EVENING.

THAT'S ALL. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE BUILDING AND PARKING AND SO MANY OF THE THINGS, BUT THE OTHER TWO NEW MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING.

I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS THE ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT'S ACROSS FROM THE PAVILION.

WE HAVE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE PLAN.

WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD A PLACE TO WORK.

IN THAT RED OVAL THERE YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE ADDED A COUNCIL WORK ROOM AS WELL AS A STORAGE ROOM.

I KNOW THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE NEW MEMBERS AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL HAS LOOKED AT THESE PLANS [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE LAST YEAR OR SO, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE PLANS WHEN WE GET THAT DONE.

BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? [BACKGROUND]

>> MR. VICE MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON IS RESOLUTION 43-22.

THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU ON THIS ITEM, RIGHT? BUT YOU MOVED RESOLUTION 46-22 TO CONSENT AND TOOK IT UP DURING THE DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER ITEM.

>> OKAY.

>> AND I DON'T-

>> FORTY FOUR, TWENTY TWO IS THE ARM FROM THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT?

>> FORTY FOUR, TWENTY TWO IS THE AUTHORIZATION TO USE THE SURTAX FUNDS.

>> SURTAX FUNDS.

>> AND 45-22 IS JUST A BRIDGE LOAN FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE SURTAX FUND, WHICH WILL GET PAID BACK IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> WHERE ARE RESOLUTIONS 44-22 AND 45-22 ON THIS AGENDA?

>> THEY WERE ALL INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

>> THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

>> I DON'T HAVE THEM ON THE AGENDA.

CAN WE ADD THEM OR NOT? THEY WERE IN THERE. CAN THEY BE ADDED?

>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE RESOLUTIONS DURING THE MEETING.

>> WELL, I MEAN, WE CAN ADD THEM TO CONSENT TO THE NEXT AGENDA.

I MEAN, THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY WERE NOT DISTRIBUTED.

DOES THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THEM?

>> NO. IT'S JUST NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

>> I THINK THE POINT IS THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO THE PUBLIC COULDN'T KNOW THAT THOSE RESOLUTIONS WERE GOING TO BE VOTED ON.

THE ONLY ITEM THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THAT YOU CAN VOTE ON THIS EVENING IS RESOLUTION 43-22, WHICH IS THE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 5, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE PROFESSIONALS TO GET MOVING WITH THEIR CONTRACTUAL ITEMS.

>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU OPEN UP THE TAB FOR THE PUBLIC, RESOLUTION 44-22 AND 45-22 ARE WITHIN RESOLUTION 43-22 ON THE AGENDA PACKET.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THEY'RE NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA.

THEY'RE NOT BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE ON.

>> WE CAN INCLUDE THEM AS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IT'S OKAY WITH ME IF IT'S ALREADY DEAD.

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CERTAINLY WANT TO DEFER TO THE TOWN ATTORNEYS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO STALL THE PROJECT TO DEFER THEM TO CONSENT.

>> OKAY.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON 43-22?

>> NO.

>> I MEAN, REAL QUICK, I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION OF THE AMOUNT THAT THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO COST TO BE BUILT.

SOME PEOPLE ARE FINE WITH IT, WE UNDERSTAND IT.

THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE SAID THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH.

I JUST WANT TO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT IF WE HAVE SOME NATURAL DISASTER, SAY ANOTHER HURRICANE DORIAN AND IT ACTUALLY MAKES LANDFALL, THERE'S NO WAY THIS BUILDING MAKES IT OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

IT ACTUALLY PROBABLY WOULD COST MORE TO RECONSTRUCT AND REPLACING THE EQUIPMENT LOSS WITHIN THAT.

SO THIS IS A GOOD THING TO DO TO GET AHEAD OF ANY NATURAL DISASTERS THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE HURRICANE HARDENED AND BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND LARGE AMOUNT OF WINDS.

I JUST WANT TO BE ON RECORD SAYING THAT THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS DONE AND THANK YOU TO THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR GETTING THE NUMBERS TOGETHER FOR US.

>> ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THIS IS THE MAXIMUM PRICE.

THERE MAY BE SOME PRICE SAVINGS OR CHANGES ALONG THE WAY.

>> WE ARE GOING TO WORK AS HARD AS WE CAN TO CONTINUE TO DWINDLE THIS NUMBER DOWN.

COUNCIL, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THIS PAINS ME TO DO THIS.

>> [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].

>> IT PAINS ME TO DO THIS.

>> I KNOW I HAD A QUESTION. IT'S ALREADY DOWN.

I MEAN, A TINY AMOUNT, BUT BETWEEN APRIL 19TH, I SEE THAT IT'S DOWN COMPARED TO THAT DAY.

>> YEAH. WE ARE ABLE TO TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT AND GET IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND KAUFMAN LYNN HAS BEEN WORKING HARD.

WE'RE JUST IN VERY TUMULTUOUS TIMES.

THIS PROJECT HAS ESCALATED FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN THE LAST FIVE MONTHS.

WE'RE ANXIOUSLY TRYING TO GET THE CONTRACT DONE.

WHEN WE DID THE POLICE BUILDING, WE PAID AS WE WENT.

WITH THIS ONE, WE'RE GOING TO BUY ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT PROBABLY STARTING TOMORROW.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE I WANT TO LOCK PRICES IN BECAUSE WE'RE JUST STRUGGLING TO KEEP THE COST CONTAINED TO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AFFORD AND PAY FOR IT IN CASH, WE DON'T HAVE TO BORROW ANY MONEY.

I'VE BEEN SAVING FOR THIS FOR 15 YEARS BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS WAS COMING DOWN THE ROAD AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS NOW.

>> A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE WHOLE TOWN HALL CAMPUS, WE KEPT THE TIRES AND BUILDING NEW TOWN HALL AND WE BUILD ON THAT, WE DID THE POLICE STATION, WORKED OUT VERY WELL BUT AS THIS IS INCH FORWARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I'D BEEN LEERY AND I SAW IT GAIN MOMENTUM AND I LOOKED AT MY COLLEAGUES AND I'M CERTAINLY SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW BUT AS WE'VE GOTTEN CLOSER AND I REALIZE WE HAVE THE MONEY AND WE MAY NEVER BE JUST FOR PUBLIC RECORD, WE MAY NEVER BE IN THIS POSITION AGAIN.

COSTS ARE ESCALATING.

WE'RE GOING TO LOCK IN ON A PRICE AND WE MAY NEVER HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE NOW, JUST TO THROW AT THIS THING, GET IT DONE AND WE HAVE A NEW TOWN HALL FOR 75 YEARS.

>> FIFTY TO SEVENTY FIVE YEARS, IT SHOULD SAY SO.

>> WHAT'S THE CARD RATING ON THIS? IS IT A FOUR?

>> I THINK THEY SAID 180 MILES AN HOUR.

>> YEAH. A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY MILES AN HOUR.

>> IS THAT A FOUR OR THREE? IS THAT FOUR?

>> I THINK THAT'S A FIVE.

>> WHAT?

>> THAT'S FIVE.

>> OKAY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S SORT OF A NOW OR NEVER OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE GOING TO BE RENOVATING THIS WHOLE THING.

>> YEAH.

>> IT'S GOING TO COST WITH THIS COST TODAY.

>> WE WANTED TO DO THIS WHEN WE BUILT THE POLICE STATION AND THE COUNCIL WAS RIGHTFULLY A LITTLE SKEPTICAL WHETHER WE COULD DO TWO PROJECTS AT THE SAME TIME, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FIVE OR SIX MILLION DOLLARS CHEAPER IF WE HAD DONE IT THEN, BUT IN HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS 2020 AND WE'RE FACED.

WE ARE HERE WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO PUSH THIS ANY FURTHER.

>> YEAH. I'D RATHER TAKE THE SMALL AMOUNT FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO DO THIS NOW THAN DRAIN THE ENTIRE GENERAL FUND TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE BUILDING IF SOMETHING HAPPENS.

>> THAT'S ALL OF OUR CONCERN.

I MEAN, YOU'LL END UP HAVING TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE BUILDING WHEN THOSE FUNDS ARE THEN GONE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT FOR A BOND REFERENDUM OR DRAIN IT, EXPAND EVERY PENNY THAT WE HAVE AND NO ONE WANTS TO BE IN THAT POSITION COUNCILS, SO I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> MUST WE THEN APPROVE OR?

>> WE'RE USING MONEY FROM THE OPEN SPACE, A BORROWING FROM THAT?

>> NO.

>> NO, WE'RE NOT.

>> NO, NO.

>> OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 43-22? SECOND.

>> OPEN DO SAY AYE?

>> AYE!

>> MOTION PASSES 4-0.

>> THANKS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. [BACKGROUND]

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>> COMPLETES THE AGENDA.

MOVING ON TO REPORTS, TOWN ATTORNEY.

[REPORTS]

>> I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC REPORT.

I JUST WANTED TO NOTE FOR COUNCIL THOUGH, WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTIONS TO PLEASE REFER TO THE RESOLUTION NUMBER OR THE ORDINANCE NUMBER SO THAT THE PUBLIC AND CLERK ARE CLEAR WHAT THAT ITEM IS THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.

>> ESPECIALLY AFTER TONIGHT, RIGHT?

>> THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THE COMMENT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> SHARP AND SO NICE.

>> TOWN MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS ON MY REPORT.

FIRST, I'M SORRY TO SEE THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE HAMPTONS STEP OUT BECAUSE I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING, AND HE SAID UNDER COUNCIL COMMENTS REGARDING THE VALLEY GUTTERS AND THE TREES.

I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE DAVID BROWN AND THOMAS HERNANDEZ WHO ARE BOTH HERE, AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THAT PROJECT.

IN MY MEETING WITH THOMAS, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, WE'VE COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR ADDRESSING THOSE GAPS IN THE CONCRETE BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE DRIVEWAYS.

WE'VE HAD A PRETTY GOOD RAIN COMING UP AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE VALLEY GUTTER ISSUES.

THEN, IRONICALLY, THOMAS AND I JUST RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL TECHNOLOGY THAT WE MAY BE USING TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS WITH THE ROOTS, AND THE SIDEWALKS, AND THAT STUFF.

HE'S DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THAT, AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH SOME NEWS ON HOW TO START MITIGATING THAT BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE HAMPTONS, I KNOW HIS NAME IS FRANK, HE'S BEEN PRETTY ACCURATE ON SOME OF THE FUTURE CHALLENGES, SO I JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON THAT.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON, I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION FROM THE COMMUNITY ON EASTVIEW MANOR, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE.

I JUST WANTED ALSO TAKE THE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE CHIEF ENGLAND WHO'S HERE, AND THE NET TEAM, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

JUST AN UPDATE FOR YOU, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONDUCTING ADDITIONAL PATROLS THERE AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD ANNOUNCEMENT TEAM, BROOK PATROLS, AND K9 UNITS HAVE BEEN PROVIDING EXTRA VISIBILITY TO PARTS OF SAFETY, BEING SAFE AND FEELING SAFE.

THE HOPE IS THAT WE GET THE NEIGHBORS THERE TO THE RESIDENTS TO FEEL SAFE AS WELL.

THROUGH THE INTERACTION WITH THE RESIDENTS AND GOOD POLICE WORK, WE'VE MADE FOR NARCOTICS RELATED ARRESTS, AND MORE ARRESTS ARE LIKELY COMING DUE TO FURTHER SUSPECT INFORMATION.

ALSO, AS PART OF THESE EFFORTS, WE'RE MONITORING THE SCHOOL BUS STOPS FOR THE DROP-OFFS AND PICKUPS, AS WE'VE HEARD BEFORE ABOUT PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR STUDENTS.

THEN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS STILL WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE OUR FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 1ST, AND SO A LOT OF PROGRESS BEING MADE THERE.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP YOU INFORMED ON THAT.

I DID WANT TO MENTION ALSO THAT THIS IS NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MEMORIAL WEEK.

IT'S WHEN WE TAKE THE TIME TO HONOR THE FALLEN OFFICERS AND THEIR FAMILIES OVER THE LAST YEAR.

AGAIN, TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO ARE OUT TODAY REMEMBERING THE SACRIFICES MADE BY MAJOR HUMPHREY AND PFC BRUCE ST. LAURENT FOR THE JUPITER POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, WE ARE NOW STARTING TOMORROW OUR HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS MEETINGS, [LAUGHTER] SO THERE'S ONE MORE THING TO THE LIST.

TO OUR INCIDENT COMMAND STRUCTURE FOLKS, WE'LL BE STARTING THIS YEAR'S PREP DURING THE DAY TOMORROW.

THEN FINALLY, THE LAST THING I WOULD ASK, AND I JUST NEED SOME APPROVAL OR DIRECTION ON THIS.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE MSTU FOR THE FIRE RESCUE SERVICES COMING UP, AND THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT INCREASES, WHAT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, TO ENGAGE THE INTERNATIONAL CITY/COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION TO COME AND DO A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF OUR FIRE AND EMS SERVICES FOR THE TOWN.

THE IDEA BEING, AS WE PROGRESS DOWN THE ROAD AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE CRITICAL DECISIONS, THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE WE GO IN THE FUTURE.

WE ALL KNOW ICMA IS A VERY RESPECTED, AND CERTAINLY WELL-EXPERIENCED ORGANIZATION.

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I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, TO ENGAGE THEM IN CONVERSATION AT LEAST, AND THEN BRING BACK AN AGENDA ITEM IF IT'S APPROPRIATE.

>> TOWN ATTORNEY, ARE YOU READY TO MOTION ON THAT?

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

>> VOTES.

>> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AWESOME. WAS THAT UNANIMOUS, COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER?

>> YES.

>> OKAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT'S MY REPORT.

>> COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER.

>> THE LAST REGULAR MEETING, I HAD DEFERRED MY APPOINTMENT TO THE BEACH COMMITTEE, AND SO I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND APPOINT LOUIS COAKLEY, WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY SERVED THIS BEACH COMMITTEE UNDER FORMER MAYOR WODRASKA.

SORRY THAT I HAD TO DO THAT.

I ALSO WANTED TO RAISE AN ISSUE REGARDING THE ROGER DEAN AND BASEBALL WITH THE COUNTY.

COUNTY HAD A MEETING TODAY TALKING ABOUT THE AGREEMENTS FOR BASEBALL, AND DURING THE Q&A, THERE WAS A STATEMENT MADE THAT THE COUNTY HAD THE ABILITY TO WITHHOLD CONSENT FOR USE OF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS IF THE TOWN OF JUPITER DID NOT GO AHEAD WITH THE JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT.

I FIND THAT TO BE VERY CONCERNING STATEMENT.

I WENT BACK THROUGH THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAD FOR THE LAST WORKSHOP, AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT ON THE RESTATED SPORTS FACILITY AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, SECTION 5.5 AND 4.6 RESPECTIVELY, MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT ANY SUCH NEW LICENSE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE COUNTIES REVIEW AND CONSENT, PROVIDED HOWEVER, THE ONLY BASIS FOR THE COUNTIES WITHHOLDING SUCH CONSENT SHALL BE THAT THE TERMS OF SUCH NEW LICENSE CONFLICT WITH OR ARE OTHERWISE CONTRARY TO THE TERMS OF ARTICLE 5 OF THIS AGREEMENT.

THIS ARTICLE 5 REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE SCHEDULING AND THE MECHANICS OF THE OPERATIONS FOR THESE TWO FIELDS, IT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING AGREEMENT AND THE OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THE RECORD CLEARED UP ON THAT.

THAT IS NOT THE WAY THE DOCUMENTS READ.

THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE IS IN THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IN SECTION 4.6.

NOWHERE IN THERE DOES IT SAY THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE ABILITY TO WITHHOLD CONSENT BASED ON THE JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT.

>> IF WE CAN JUST STAY ON TOPIC OF BASEBALL.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT TO THE DEGREE THAT I WANTED TO GET ON THE RECORD, I WAS ASKED, OTHERS MAY HAVE BEEN CONTACTED, BUT JUST ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL, WE HAD A WORKSHOP LAST THURSDAY.

WE CAN ONLY TAKE ACTION IN OFFICIAL MEETINGS.

WE LEFT WITH ACTION ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY.

FIRST, BASEBALL IS GOING TO GET US A LIST OF IMPROVEMENTS.

THEN, EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY, WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH MIKE BIRD TO ALL THE STADIUM TO MAKE SURE WE INDIVIDUALLY GET A UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE SCOPE OF IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE SO WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY DECIDE WHAT FUNDING WE MIGHT BE OPEN TO.

THEN, WE WOULD HAVE TO RECONVENE AS A GROUP BECAUSE THERE'S SUNSHINE, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT OUTSIDE THE SUNSHINE.

I HAVE NOT MET YET.

I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF US HAS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT MAY NOT BE BAD, IF ANYBODY HAD, JUST STATE ON THE RECORD, BUT THEN IT'S STILL AN ONGOING FROM THE WORKSHOP.

I DON'T WANT TO OVER REACT TO WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SAID AT THE MEETING, BUT I'D ASK MR. BIRD TO, CONSIDERING WHAT COUNCILOR SCHNEIDER HAD INDICATED, IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN OPINION ON THAT.

BUT I'M AT THE MEETING, BUT IT'S ALL UP.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO REPORT? I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN ACTUALLY REPORT PROGRESS, AND I'M GOING TO ASK HIM FOR IT, BUT YOU HAVE THAT.

THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT I HAVEN'T MET YET.

>> I'M MEETING TOMORROW MORNING WITH MIKE BIRD.

>> OKAY.

>> I DID WATCH THE BCC MEETING TODAY AND WHAT I GATHERED FROM IT, AND I TOOK NOTES, WAS STAFF HAS INCLUDED LANGUAGE IN THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, THE RESTATED SPORTS FACILITY USE AGREEMENT, ESTABLISHING THAT THE COUNTY MAY WITHHOLD ITS CONSENT

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UNTIL AFTER THE JUPITER FUNDING AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED.

I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF THE DRAFT DA AND SFUA HAVE CHANGED, IF THAT LANGUAGE WAS ADDED.

I AM CONFUSED AND WOULD LIKE AN OPINION ON THIS AS WELL BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING, AND THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED DIRECTLY AT THE COUNTY BEFORE.

>> FIRST OF ALL- THE TOWN'S NOT A PARTY TO THE RESTATED SPORTS FACILITY OR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THOSE ARE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE BALL CLUBS.

THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS WHAT GOVERNS THE QUADPLEX, IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BALL CLUBS, JUPITER STADIUM LIMITED, IN THE TOWN.

THAT AGREEMENT WAS EXECUTED IN 1997.

IT GOES THROUGH 2027.

YOU MAY HAVE NOTED WHEN COUNSELOR SCHNEIDER READ THE LANGUAGE AND IT REFERRED TO A NO LICENSE.

AS YET, THE TOWN HASN'T DISCUSSED A NEW LICENSE WITH JUPITER STADIUM LIMITED.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS AGAIN AND GIVE YOU A MORE FORMAL OPINION.

BUT AT THIS POINT, THERE'S STILL A LICENSE BETWEEN JUPITER STADIUM LIMITED IN THE TOWN.

NOBODY HAS PROPOSED TO CHANGE THAT LICENSE SO THE TERMS OF THAT LICENSE SHOULD GOVERN THE RESPECTIVE PARTIES OBLIGATIONS.

>> THE COUNTY SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW LICENSE, I GUESS, WHICH IS WHY THIS LANGUAGE IS HERE. I UNDERSTAND.

I AGREE WITH YOUR POINT THAT THE OTHER ONE IS STILL VALID, BUT IN TERMS OF THE BASIS UPON WHICH THE COUNTY CAN WITHHOLD CONSENT, EVEN IF YOU DO MOVE TO A NEW LICENSE.

IT'S NOT WHAT WAS REPRESENTED IN THE MEETING UNDER THE AGREEMENTS.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I CAN'T CONTROL WHAT THEY REPRESENT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> NO.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE THING, OVER THE WEEKEND.

I HAD SEEN A VIDEO POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA OF SHARK FEEDING HAPPENING AT THE DOCKS, SPECIFICALLY IN THE AREA OF UTICA SQUARE GROUPER, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE SOMETHING TO COME FORWARD, PUT POTENTIALLY AN ORDINANCE THAT BANS SHARK FEEDING FROM OUR DOCS WITHIN OUR INNER COASTAL WATERWAYS.

THESE DOCKS ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO SWIMMING AREAS, SPECIFICALLY AT THE LIGHTHOUSE PROPERTY.

THE VIDEOS I'VE BEEN SEEING ARE 8'9" FOOT BULL SHARKS COMING INTO THE INTERCOSTAL, THEN COMING UP TO THE FEEDING TABLES AND WHERE THE CHARTER BOAT CAPTAINS ARE COMING IN AND THEY'RE TINY, FISH CARCASSES ONTO ROPES AND THROWN IT OUT TO TRY TO LURE THEIR MEN TO FEED THEM.

WHICH IS COOL TO LOOK AT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME BEING SO CLOSE TO THE SWIMMING AREA, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.

I DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE FEEDING SHARKS WITHIN, NEAR SWIMMING AREAS IN THE INTERCOSTAL.

THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TAKE ACTION AS FAR AS AN ORDINANCE BANNING SUCH ACTIVITIES, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT COME FORWARD.

>> I'VE SEEN THAT. I'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THAT AND OTHER LOCATIONS OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED, THAT IT'S BECOME MORE OF A COMMONPLACE OCCURRENCE.

>> I HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH.

ONE IS WE HAVE A SOLID WASTE RFP EVALUATION COMING UP.

THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN IN ACTIONS BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.

BUT THERE IS A CONE OF SILENCE THAT WE'RE BOUND BY AND I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST HEARD THAT, WHICH I THINK IS ONE TIME IN ALL THE YEARS, I THINK WE NEED TO BE REMINDED ABOUT WHAT THAT IS.

BOTH MYSELF AND THEN THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES.

IF THE TOWN ATTORNEY COULD REMIND US ABOUT THE OBLIGATIONS ON CONE OF SILENCE DEALING WITH THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S AN RFP AND EVALUATION WHERE WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET CONTACTED ANY OTHER ONE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON SQUARE FOOTING.

>> IT MEANS YOU CAN'T BE LOBBIED ESSENTIALLY BY THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HAULING COMPANIES THAT MAY BE BIDDING CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

>> BUT AGAIN IF YOU COULD ISSUE US A MEMO, BUT ALSO SO WE KNOW WHO IS BIDDING RIGHT WHEN THE BIDS COME BACK,

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WE OUGHT TO BE ADVISED OF THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHEN YOU'RE ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INFORMED AND NOT FORGOTTEN ABOUT SO THAT'S AN ASK.

BY THE WAY, ONE OF THE BIG TO-DO BACK, IT'S ALMOST PRETTY SOON.

ISN'T IT, MR. KETCHERO?

>> EVENING, THOMAS HERNANDEZ AND I'M DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, PARKS PUBLIC WORKS.

THE BIDS ARE DUE BACK MAY 20TH, WHICH IS THIS FRIDAY AT 2:00 PM.

>> RIGHT. [OVERLAPPING] I GUESS NOT BIDS THE PROPOSALS WHICH WILL OPEN AND EVALUATE THE TECHNICAL PORTION, I'LL BE GIVING THOSE SELECTION COMMITTEE.

THEN ON JUNE 3RD, WE WILL OPEN THE PRICE PROPOSAL PORTION AFTER WE'VE ALREADY MADE OUR TECHNICAL SELECTION AND SCORES OF THE PROPOSALS.

>> OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM THEN, I'M GOING TO TRY TO REALLY EMPHASIZE IN THESE MEETINGS WHEN WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AS A TEAM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THINK THIS COUNCIL IS COMMITTED TO DO.

LAST MEETING I REPORTED ABOUT BRIGHT-LINE IN THE FENCING WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR, AND I'M PLEASED TO SHARE THAT BRIGHT LINE AND FDOT, HAVE APPLIED FOR A RANGE 2022 GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN COMBINATION WITH SOME MONEY PUT UP BY BRIGHT LINE AND FDOT, $40 MILLION GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT GETS AWARDED IN JULY.

IF IT'S APPROVED, AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT COVERS IMPROVEMENTS THAT GO FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY ALL THE WAY TO ORLANDO.

BUT I HAVE CONFIRMED THAT IT INCLUDES THE OTHER HALF OF THE FENCING.

REMEMBER, I REPORTED THAT BRIGHT LINE IS COMMITTED UNDER WHAT THEY CALL THEIR PHASE TWO CONSTRUCTION, WHICH HAPPENED BEFORE YEAR-END, TO INSTALL APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILE OF FENCING.

WE HAD ABOUT ANOTHER HALF-MILE, THAT OTHER HALF MILE IS INCLUDED IN THIS GRANT.

WATCHING THAT ONE CLOSELY BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT ALL THE WORK THE TOWN HAS DONE TO ADVOCATE FOR IT'S BEEN HEARD IT'S INCLUDED IN A GRANT, SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL GET FUNDED AND GET DONE.

FOR THE NEXT AGENDA, I'M GOING TO HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT WANT TO SIT IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

I WANTED TO CONFIRM, I WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND I FIRST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE GETTING WHAT WE NEED, AND I CONFIRM THAT ON FRIDAY.

THEN I THINK NEXT WEEK WE'RE MEETING WITH REPRESENTATIVES, WE MEETING WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND TOWN MANAGER AND MYSELF, WE ARE MEETING WITH BRIGHT LINE TO DISCUSS ISSUES REGARDING THE VENTRAL OPERATION OF BRIGHT LINE, SO THAT THE STATUS ENCOURAGE THAT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT ONE.

THEN, I WANTED TO SHARE SOME FURTHER PERSPECTIVES ON SOMETHING THAT MR. BAIRD HAD SHARED WITH US VIA A MAY 14TH MEMO, AND I JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF MORE BACKGROUND TO IT, PASS ONE.

[BACKGROUND]

>> SOME OF THIS IS DISCUSSED IN MR. BAIRD'S MEMO THAT WE GOT, BUT I HAD REACHED OUT TO STAFF TO GIVE FURTHER INFORMATION.

I THINK IT'S GOOD TO SEE FROM A SUMMARY PERSPECTIVE.

WHEN THE TOWN WAS PURSUING SCRIPPS FLORIDA, AND THAT WAS A DECISION THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAD TO MAKE BETWEEN DIFFERENT SITES, THE TOWN COUNCIL, SO IT'S QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, [NOISE] PUT UP THREE MILLION DOLLARS TO FUND GRANTS, LOANS TO BUSINESSES IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.

EVERY LOCAL ENTITY THAT WAS COMPETING, TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOME EDGE.

OURS WAS WE COMMITTED THREE MILLION DOLLARS TO FUND BASICALLY STARTUPS AND OTHER THINGS TO GROW THE CLUSTER IF YOU WILL.

I GOT TO SAY I'M THE ONLY PERSON ON THE COUNCIL THAT IS FROM THAT TIME.

WE THOUGHT THIS IS GOING TO BE HIGH RISK

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AND WE WERE GOING TO INVEST THE MONEY AND THEN THE FUND WOULD BE DONE.

I WAS THRILLED THAT WE HAD USUALLY LOOSELY THE TOWN, AND MR. VELALA WAS INVOLVED IN THIS, WE SET UP AN ADVISORY GROUP OF SOME PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS AND THEY ADVISED US THAT YOU CAN RECYCLE THE MONEY BY OFFERING UP LOAN GUARANTEES SO YOU COULD BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE, BUT FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT, BUT STILL ONE WOULD THINK EVEN ON LOAN GUARANTEES THESE ARE STARTUPS AND COMPANIES THAT THERE IS SOME RISKS, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A LISTING OF ALL THE TRANSACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

THE FUND BALANCE TODAY SITS AT $1.3 MILLION STILL, AND THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE.

AGAIN, I THOUGHT MR. BAIRD DID A GREAT JOB, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO IT WHAT I GOT FROM STAFF A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.

THEN THE FACT THAT EVEN IN THE CASE THAT A COMPANY THAT WE HAD GIVEN A LOAN GUARANTEE HAD VIOLATED THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, WE WERE WELL-SERVED BOTH BY MR. BAIRD'S AT THE OFFICE AND MINDFUL ELLA THEN WAS OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR BECAUSE A CITY THAT WE HAD WAS PULLED.

AGAIN, I'M READING FROM MR. BAIRD'S AND HE CAN ADD TO IT WHEN I'M DONE, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S EXTRAORDINARY.

WE NEVER GAVE UP.

I USUALLY LOOSELY STAFF TOWN ATTORNEY.

THEY FOUND A NEW ZEALAND COUNCIL THAT WIND UP TAKING IT TO A COURT ALL THESE YEARS LATER IN GETTING A JUDGMENT IN OUR FAVOR.

THAT'S QUITE REMARKABLE. YOU KNOW WHAT? SUCCESS STORY. I DIDN'T WANT THIS TO JUST BE LEFT. WE ALL JUST GOT IT.

I REALLY WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD AND CELEBRATE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND IS BEING MANAGED.

MR. BAIRD, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT, BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIRM'S EFFORTS TO GET US MADE WHOLE WITH INTEREST.

>> WELL, THANK YOU. MR. VELALA.

>> YEAH.

>> PUSHED US AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT WHEN WE STARTED WITH THIS, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THE BANK IMMEDIATELY TOOK OVER THE TOWN'S CD AND WAS SATISFIED BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR GUARANTEE ON THE LOAN.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAD TO DO WAS ENGAGE THE BANK'S COUNCIL AND SAY, ASSIGN US THE RIGHTS TO FORECLOSE ON THE LOAN TO PURSUE COLLECTION OF THE PROCEEDS.

WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE THEN ENTERED, AFTER A LONG PERIOD OF DISCUSSION, INTO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT TO COLLECT THE MONEY.

THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WAS PROMPTLY BREACHED.

THE INDIVIDUAL THAT BREACHED IT WAS SIR NEVILLE JORDAN WHO HAPPENED TO BE A CITIZEN OF NEW ZEALAND.

NOT JUST ANY OLD CITIZEN, BUT A SIR, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.

I KNOW OF SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY, SO I FIGURED HE MUST BE IN GOOD COMPANY.

THEN WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT ANYTHING BECAUSE WE HAD A SUE IN NEW ZEALAND, BUT WE DID GET REFERRED TO AN OUTSTANDING FIRM OVER THERE AND IT ALL CAME TOGETHER.

WE WON. THEN THERE WAS THE MATTER OF COLLECTION.

THEY HAVE A PROCEDURE THAT IS SOMEWHAT SIMPLER TO BANKRUPTCY, BUT THEY CALL IT LIQUIDATING WITH LIQUIDATORS.

THE COURT WILL ASSIGN TO THESE PROFESSIONAL LIQUIDATORS THE AUTHORITY TO GO FIND ASSETS OF THE COMPANY FROM WHOM WE GOT A JUDGMENT.

WE WERE TOLD, AT THAT TIME, THAT THERE WAS PROBABLY A 25 PERCENT CHANCE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY ASSETS THAT WE COULD RECOVER, BUT THE LIQUIDATORS DID A GOOD JOB OF LIQUIDATING AND WE WOUND UP RECOVERING THE FULL AMOUNT THAT WE COULD RECOVER ON THE LOAN.

>> WITH INTEREST?

>> I'M SORRY?

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>> WITH INTEREST?

>> I THINK THE INTEREST WAS INCLUDED IN THERE.

>> YEAH.

>> OVER THE COURSE OF MY CAREER, I'VE HAD OCCASIONS WHERE OTHERS IN MY FIRM HAVE TO CHASE BAD ACTORS, BUT NOT AS FAR AS NEW ZEALAND.

I'M JUST SORRY THAT MR. VELALA AND I DIDN'T GET TO TAKE THE HOBBIT TOUR OVER THERE AND SEE SOME OF THE COUNTRY.

IF WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN SIR NEVILLE JORDAN TO PAY FOR OUR HOBBIT TOUR THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ICING ON THE CAKE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THAT WAS $211,000 THAT WE GOT BACK AS IN THE MEMO IF EVERYBODY HAD SEEN IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M ADDING SOME BACKGROUND TO IT BECAUSE WE WENT INTO THIS KNOWING THAT IN BUSINESS WE WERE GOING IN, IT WAS GOING TO BE AT RISK, BUT IT'S EXTRAORDINARY HOW MOST OF THE MONEY HAS GOTTEN RECYCLED.

EVEN IN THIS CASE, WE'VE PURSUED THAT.

I WANT TO RECOGNIZE BOTH MR. BAIRD'S FIRM AND MR. VELALA.

TREMENDOUSLY GOOD WORK. THANK YOU.

TWO MORE ITEMS. ONE IS JUST FOR THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT CAME IN ABOUT TREE DAMAGE.

ONE THING I HEARD HIM SAY AND WE SHOULD BE CLEAR EVERY TIME WE TALK WITH THE PUBLIC.

I'M NOT SURE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HOW IT IS, BUT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IT ENSURES THE COVENANT SAY THAT THE TREES ARE OWNED BY THE RESIDENT WHEN IT'S IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY OR BY THE ASSOCIATION.

WHY I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT IS THE FACT THAT I THINK I HEARD THE RESIDENTS SAY THAT HE THOUGHT THEY WERE THE TOWN'S TREES.

CAN WE CLARIFY THAT? WE SHOULD ALWAYS MAKE A POINT TO EMPHASIZE TO THE PUBLIC WHOEVER'S TREES THEY ARE, BUT I'D BE SURPRISED IF THEY WERE THE TOWN'S TREES.

WHEN WE HEAR THAT, THEN WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT PERCEPTION IF, IN FACT, IT'S ACCURATE.

>> WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. THEN JUST LASTLY, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF, AGAIN, GETTING THINGS DONE, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE AND ASK FOR SOME STAFF TO GET BACK WITH ME, BUT IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT IT WOULD IT BE NICE IF AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL THAT WE HAVE HERE IF WE COULD HAVE ENGRAVED MEMORIAL BRICKS.

I BEGAN THE RUN-UP TO GROUND JUST TO SEE IF IT WAS PRACTICAL.

I KNOW WE DIDN'T PUT IT ON OUR LIST, BUT I DO THINK IT'D BE A NICE THING.

WHAT I FOUND THUS FAR IS I KNOW THAT MEMORIAL BRICKS ARE AROUND TOWN.

I HAD EXPLORED THE CHURCH THAT I ATTEND.

THEY'VE HAD MEMORIAL BRICKS FOR YEARS.

THEY GAVE ME THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THEY USE.

HAD MY WIFE GO. I WAS GOING DOWN TO PASS.

I THOUGHT, WOW, I COULD BRING IT HERE AND WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND MAYBE GET SOME BRICKS OFFERED IN, IN PLACE BEFORE VETERANS DAY, BUT WHAT I LEARNED WAS THAT THEY DO ENGRAVING ON CLAY BRICKS, NOT CONCRETE AND GRANITE.

QUESTION NUMBER 1 IS, WHAT MATERIAL IS OUR BRICKS MADE OUT OF? AGAIN, I WOULD JUST PURSUE THIS IN THE INTEREST OF LET'S GET SOMETHING DONE, AND NOT TALK ABOUT IT.

STAFF CAN GET BACK WITH ME ON THAT APPARENTLY.

AGAIN, THERE'S A LOCAL FIRM THROUGH WHICH SOME PEOPLE GO THROUGH WITH CLAY BRICKS.

BECAUSE IF WE HAVE CONCRETE AND GRANITE, THEN IT MAY BE DEAD-ENDED AND THEN WE CAN STOP TALKING ABOUT ENGRAVED BRICKS, BUT IF THEY'RE CLAY, THEN WE USE A PROCESS THAT WE COULD COME BACK AND ASK THE COUNCIL WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT, BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS WHAT THE MATERIAL IS.

>> WE'LL LOOK AT THE, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

ANYTHING ELSE? THE TIME IS 8:40 AND I CALL THE MEETING CLOSED. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.