>> [OVERLAPPING] GOOD EVENING. TIME IS NOW 6:00 PM,
[Call to Order]
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AND I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ORDER, THE TOWN OF JUPITER COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING.CAN WE BEGIN WITH THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
>> YES, MAYOR. CHAIR KURETSKI?
>> INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KESTREL.
>> COMMISSIONER ATTORNEY BARRICK?
>> DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS?
>> I THINK WE HAVE JUST AN ADVANCED ONE ON THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE IT, THAT WE DO HAVE THAT.
MOVING ON THEN TO THE AGENDA UNDER THE MINUTES.
[1. September 7, 2021 Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting Minutes. [TAB 1]]
COMMISSION YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2021, SHEARING MEETING.THE ONLY CHANGES. I HAVE A MOTION.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT ON THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY'S FISCAL YEAR 2021,
[2. Community Redevelopment Agency’s fiscal year 2021 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR) by Marcum CPA Firm, Audit Partner. #]
COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL PLAN FINANCIAL REPORT.>> GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] I'M WITH THE FIRM OF MARCUM LLP, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021.
THE DOCUMENT ITSELF WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE MEETING AGENDA PACKAGE, BUT IT WAS ALSO RELEASED TO ALL MEMBERS ON MARCH 29TH.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW ALONG, I'M GOING TO GO FIRST THROUGH OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT ON PRINTED PAGE 1.
[NOISE] ON PRINTED PAGE 1, YOU FIND OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT ON THE FIRST PARAGRAPH TITLED REPORT ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS MAKES REFERENCE TO WHAT WE'VE AUDITED.
WE'VE AUDITED THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, WHICH IS A COMPONENT UNIT OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021, WHICH IS THE FISCAL YEAR END.
THE SECOND PARAGRAPH TITLED MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITY MAKES REFERENCE TO WHAT IS MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBLE FOR.
THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND THEY DO SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES GENERALLY ACCEPTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THE THIRD PARAGRAPH TITLED AUDITOR'S RESPONSIBILITY, MAKES REFERENCE TO WHAT WE, MARCUM, AS YOUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
WE'RE RESPONSIBLE TO PROVIDE AN OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND WE DO SO BY FOLLOWING TWO SETS OF STANDARDS : WE FOLLOW THE UNITED STATES GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS, KNOWN AS US GAAS, AND GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS.
WHICH IS A SECOND LAYER STANDARDS THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE FLORIDA AUDITOR GENERAL.
ON PRINTED PAGE 2, YOU FIND THE MOST IMPORTANT PARAGRAPH TITLED OPINIONS, AND IT READS AS FOLLOWS: IN OUR OPINION, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF THE CRA REFERRED TO ABOVE, PRESENT FAIRLY NOMINATOR RESPECTS, THE RESPECT OF FINANCIAL POSITION, THE GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES, AND MAJOR FRONT OF THE AGENCY AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CLEAN OPINION.
WE PERFORM OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT AND THIS IS THE ONLY OPINION YOU WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH.
IN REGARDS TO A FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT, THIS IS THE HIGHEST REGARD THAT AN ENTITY COULD RECEIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE. [LAUGHTER]
>> THIS IS THE ONLY OPINION YOU WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
AGAIN, IT'S A CLEAN OPINION, ALSO KNOWN AS AN UNMODIFIED OPINION WHEN IT COMES TO AUDITING STANDARDS.
FOLLOWING THE AUDITOR'S REPORT, IF YOU TURN WITH ME TO PAGE 3, YOU'LL FIND THE MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION ANALYSIS.
THE MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
IT SUMMARIZES AND PROVIDES A QUANTITATIVE VARIANCE ANALYSIS OF CURRENT ACTIVITY VERSUS PRIOR ACTIVITY.
IT ALSO PROVIDES YOU QUANTITATIVE INFORMATION, OR IN ESSENCE, AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT DRIVES THOSE CHANGES.
WHAT IS DRIVING THE ACTIVITY OF 2021 FOR THE CRA AS COMPARED TO 2020? THE MD&A STARTS ON PAGE 3 AND TAKES US TO PAGE 8, AND IT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGETARY HIGHLIGHTS, PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF YOUR NET POSITION AND CAPITAL ASSETS,
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AS WELL AS ECONOMIC FACTORS FOR NEXT YEAR.IF YOU TURN WITH ME TO [NOISE] PRINTED PAGE 9, YOU FIND THE STATEMENT ON NET POSITION, AND IT'S SIMILAR TO A BALANCE SHEET.
THE REASON WE DON'T CALL IT A BALANCE SHEET IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T BALANCE; IT NETS TO YOUR NET POSITION, WHICH IS ANOTHER TERM FOR EQUITY.
YOU HAVE YOUR ASSETS, WHICH A SIGNIFICANT PORTION IS YOUR CAPITAL ASSETS OR THE CRA, YOUR CASH ACCOUNT, NORTH OF 2.4 MILLION.
THEN TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION YOUR LIABILITIES, THE NET EFFECT IS YOUR NET POSITION.
WE HAD A TOTAL NET POSITION OF JUST 4.2 MILLION.
ON PAGE 10, YOU HAVE THE STATEMENT OF ACTIVITIES.
THE STATEMENT OF ACTIVITIES, IT STARTS OFF WITH YOUR EXPENSES.
THAT'S THE FIRST COLUMN TO YOUR LEFT.
THEN YOU CONSIDER YOUR PROGRAM REVENUES, AND THEN YOU HAVE A NET REVENUE OR CHANGING NET POSITION.
AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 10, WE CONSIDER TAX INCREMENT REVENUES OF 2.2 MILLION, RESULTING IN A POSITIVE CHANGE IN NET POSITION OF 626.
TAKING A BEGINNING NET POSITION FROM JUST 3.6 MILLION TO NORTH OF 4.2 MILLION.
[NOISE] OUTSIDE OF THE STATEMENT OF NET POSITION OR STATEMENT OF ACTIVITIES, WE DO HAVE FUN ACTIVITY, BUT THAT'S SIDE OF THE MODIFIED ACCRUAL BASIS.
FOR GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING STANDARDS THEY REQUIRE US TO JUST HAVE TWO SETS OF STATEMENTS: ONE ON THE FULL ACCRUAL BASIS, WHICH CONSIDERS LONG-TERM ACTIVITY, AND THEN THAT'S FOLLOWED BY RECONCILIATION TO MODIFIED ACCRUAL.
THE REASON IT IS IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HAVE COMPARABLE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FIGURE BUDGETS.
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE BUDGETARY TO ACTUAL INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.
IF YOU TURN WITH ME TO PRINTED PAGE 15, WE MENTIONED THE FOOTNOTES AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A COMPONENT UNIT OF THE TOWN OF JUPITER.
THE CRA ITSELF HAS PRESENTED AS A MAJOR FUND IN THE TOWN OF JUPITER ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT.
BUT DUE TO STATUTE REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO ISSUE THE STAND-ALONE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL LAYER TRANSPARENCY AS THERE'S ADDITIONAL DISCLOSURES HERE THAT CANNOT BE FOUND IN THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT.
THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THIS STAND-ALONE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
IF YOU TURN WITH ME TO PRINTED PAGE 26.
ON PRINTED PAGE 26 WE HAVE YOUR BUDGETARY COMPARISON SCHEDULE.
THE POINT OF THIS SCHEDULE IS TO COMPARE THE ORIGINAL AND FINAL BUDGETS AS COMPARED TO THE ACTUAL AMOUNTS THAT WERE AUDITED.
THE FINAL COLUMN IS A VARIANCE COLUMN THAT SHOWS IF THERE WAS ANY VARIANCES BETWEEN WHAT WAS BUDGETED AS COMPARED TO THE ACTUAL AMONGST THAT WERE TRANSACTED OR RECORDED BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
YES, WE ARE PERFORMING A FINANCIAL AUDIT, BUT UNDER GOVERNMENT ONLY STANDARDS, WE ARE REQUIRED TO TEST COMPLIANCE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE'LL MAKE SURE THEY COMPARE THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE ELECTED BODY AGAINST THE ACTUAL ACTIVITY TO ENSURE THAT THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE TRANSACTED BY THE CRA ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BUDGETED DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAD APPROVED.
AS MENTIONED ON PAGE 27, WE HAVE NO ITEMS TO REPORT FALLING OUT OF A BUDGETED AMOUNT.
IF YOU TURN WITH ME TO PAGE 28, YOU HAVE THE INDEPENDENT REPORT ON INTERNAL CONTROLS.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPORT IS TO DEFINE WHAT OUR INTERNAL CONTROL DEFICIENCY IS.
IN THE AUDITING STANDARDS, THERE'S TWO TYPES OF DEFICIENCIES, THERE COULD BE A MATERIAL WEAKNESS, OR SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES.
AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 28, WE'RE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT DURING THE AUDIT, WE DIDN'T IDENTIFY ANY DEFICIENCIES IN INTERNAL CONTROL THAT WE CONSIDERED TO BE MATERIAL WEAKNESSES.
WE'RE NOT AT THE LIBERTY TO IDENTIFY ANY DEFICIENCIES AND REPORT THEM TO MANAGEMENT OR TO YOU VERBALLY OR REQUIRED TO DO SO IN WRITING.
AGAIN, AS MENTIONED IN THIS REPORT, WE HAVE NO DEFICIENCIES TO REPORT.
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 29 YOU FIND OUR COMPLIANCE PARAGRAPH.
THIS MENTIONS THAT ALTHOUGH WE ARE PERFORMING A FINANCIAL AUDIT, WE DO DO TESTING OF COMPLIANCE.
WE REVIEW THE ACTIVITY OF THE CRA TO ENSURE THAT THE ACTIVITY ADHERES TO LAWS, REGULATIONS, CONTRACTS, AND GRANT AGREEMENTS, AND THAT IF ANY NONCOMPLIANCE WERE TO OCCUR THAT HAD A DIRECT MATERIAL EFFECT WE WOULD REPORT IT TO YOU.
THE LAST SENTENCE ON PAGE 29 OF THE COMPLIANCE PARAGRAPH READS AS FOLLOWS.
THE RESULTS OF OUR TESTS DISCLOSED NO INSTANCES OF NON-COMPLIANCE OR OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED ON THE GOVERNMENT AUDIENCE STANDARDS.
AGAIN, THERE WAS A CLEAN OPINION.
THERE'S NO DEFICIENCIES THAT WERE BEING REPORTED OR NONCOMPLIANCE SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PLEASED TO REPORT AND SOMETHING THAT IS NOW USUAL.
WE SERVICED 51 MINUTES OF PADDIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND MANY OF THEM HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OR ITEMS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
AGAIN, IT IS NOT TYPICAL TO HAVE A CLEAN OPINION AND NO ITEMS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
FOLLOWING THE REPORT ON PAGE 30,
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YOU HAVE IMAGINED THAT ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUDITOR GENERAL.THIS LETTER IS REQUIRED BY THE AUDITOR GENERAL SUMMARIZES THE RESULTS OF SOME TESTING ACTIVITY OF THE CRA AS COMPARED TO FLORIDA STATUTES.
THERE ARE SOME SECTIONS MUTATED IN FINANCIAL CONDITION AND MANAGEMENT, BUT AGAIN, THERE WAS NOTHING TO REPORT OR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.
ANOTHER REQUIREMENT OF THIS LETTER IS TO FOLLOW UP ON PRIOR FINDINGS.
IF THERE'S A PRIOR FINDING, I'M REQUIRED TO FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CRA HAS ADDRESSED THOSE FINDINGS OR THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AS NOTED ON PAGE 30, THERE WAS NO FINDINGS OR RECOMMENDATIONS MADE IN THE PRECEDING FINANCIAL AUDIT REPORT BY THE PREDECESSOR AUDITOR.
IF I WANTED TO REMIND YOU, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT MALCOM IS ENGAGED AS A CRA AUDITOR.
THAT'S WHY WE MADE REFERENCE TO THE PREDECESSOR.
OUTSIDE OF THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ON THE SAME DAY WE RELEASED THE COMMUNICATION LETTER TO THOSE CHARGED WITH GOVERNANCE AND THAT IN SOMEWAY MAKES REFERENCE TO ANY DISAGREEMENTS OR COMPLICATIONS THAT WE HAD IN PERFORMING OUR AUDIT, I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THERE WAS NO DISAGREEMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE REPORTING, DISCLOSING OF ANY FINANCIAL TRANSACTION INSIDE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
AS A MATTER OF OPINION BETWEEN THE CRA MANAGEMENT AND OURSELVES, WITHIN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE COMPLETE AND ACCURATE AND ALSO I WANT TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE NO DISAGREEMENTS OR ANY DELAYS FROM MANAGEMENT AS PART OF THE AUDIT AND WHEN CHANGING AUDITORS IT REQUIRES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER AND WE WERE ENGAGE IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY.
THAT TOOK US ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO FINISH THE AUDIT FROM BEGINNING TO END.
AGAIN, I WANTED TO THANK YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT FOR ACCOMMODATING US, ACCOMMODATING OUR REQUEST, AND PROVIDING OUR INFORMATION ON A TIMELY MANNER IN ORDER FOR US TO FINISH THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT PRIOR TO THE END OF MARCH? I'LL OPEN IT UP NOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS?
>> DOES ANYBODY IN THE COMMION HAVE QUESTIONS? I JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS.
NUMBER 1, I APPRECIATE THE WALK-THROUGH AND PARTICULARLY WHICH PLEASED TO FIND IT WAS CLEAN AND NO DEFICIENCIES.
APPRECIATE YOUR EMPHASIZING THAT, I THINK YOU WERE KIND BY INDICATING THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE REALLY, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE CAN SPEND WHAT WE SPEND, BUT IT'S HOW IT GOT REPORTED JUST SO I KNOW WE HAVE A GREAT FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND KUDOS TO THEM FOR A CLEAN AND NO DEFICIENT REPORT.
THANK YOU FOR EMPHASIZING THAT.
I KNOW THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK SO WHICH THEY NEED TO GET [INAUDIBLE] A FEW TIMES IT HAPPENS [LAUGHTER].
>> THEY DID. IF ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT AFTER TODAY'S PRESENTATION THE CRA HAS OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
OUR APPROACH IS JUST NOT TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AT ONE TIME A YEAR.
IF ANY QUESTIONS ARISE REGARDING A FUTURE TRANSACTION OR SOMETHING COMES TO MIND AFTER TODAY'S MEETING, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US.
>> I THINK NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON
[3. Jupiter Beach Road and A1A intersection improvement update. [TAB 3]]
THE JUPYTER BEACH ROAD AND A1A INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT UPDATE.>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD, TOM'S HERNANDEZ, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND CJ, YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
>> FOR THE RECORDS I'M [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEERING TO CHANGE IN LINE, ALSO KNOWN AS CJ.
>> TONIGHT WE'LL BE GIVING YOU A POST BIT UPDATE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO SEEK YOUR DIRECTION AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO AND WHICH WAY YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD POSTS BID AND WHERE WE ARE AT THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
SOME OF THE INFORMATION IN THE BEGINNING YOU'LL FIND ARE SLIDES THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE, EXCEPT FOR THE TWO NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS, BUT WITH NOT A LOT OF THE CONTENT SO WE'LL GO OVER THAT PRETTY BRIEFLY AND THEN MOVE ON.
IF THERE'S ANY MORE IN DEPTH DESIGN QUESTIONS, WGI IS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, SO THEY CAN ALSO ASSIST IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THE DESIGN ITSELF.
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THE TOWN RESIDENTS HAVE VOICED THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC VOLUME AND THE CONGESTION AT THIS INTERSECTION.[NOISE] AFTER PREVIOUS COUNTS IN 2011 AND 2016 DID NOT MEET SIGNAL WARRANTS, THE COUNTS IN 2019 DID MEET A PRESCRIPTIVE WARRANT.
HOWEVER, THE PRESCRIPTIVE WARRANT IS A MINIMUM CONDITION AND IS NOT A MANDATORY CONDITION.
AFTER THE EVALUATION OF THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND IT BEING BRIEFED TO THE COMMISSION THAT PREVIOUS POINTS, THE TOWN STAFF MOVE FORWARD WITH A DESIGN FOR A TRAFFIC ROUNDABOUT.
AFTER FINAL PLANS WERE COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED TO PALM BEACH COUNTY, THE PERMITTING APPROVAL PROCESS ESSENTIALLY TOOK AN ADDITIONAL FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE FINAL PLANS WERE COMPLETED.
IN ORDER TO AVOID FURTHER DELAYS, IT WAS INDICATED TO THE TOWN STAFF LATE IN NOVEMBER [NOISE] THAT THE PERMIT WOULD BE ISSUED EMINENTLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
IN ORDER TO AVOID FURTHER DELAYS, THE ENGINEERING DIVISION ISSUED THE ADVERTISEMENT ON THE 5TH OF DECEMBER WITH A BID OPENING DATE SET FOR THE 11TH OF JANUARY.
LATER IN THE ACTUAL BID PROCESS ON JANUARY 3RD, THE PERMIT WAS ISSUED BY THE COUNTY WITH CONDITIONS THAT TOWN STAFF HAD TO WORK WITH THE TWO UTILITIES, VERIZON AND FPL TO ENSURE THAT OUR WORK WOULD [NOISE] NOT IMPACT ANY WORK THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN GRANTED APPROVAL TO PERFORM WITHIN THE PALM BEACH COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
TO ALLOW TIME FOR COORDINATING WITH THE UTILITIES, WHICH I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT WE ISSUED WITH AN ENGINEERING AN ADDENDUM WHICH DELAYED THE BID OPENING UNTIL THE 20TH OF JANUARY, AND AFTER HAVING SIX FIRMS ATTEND THE MANDATORY PRE-BID MEETING, WE ONLY HAD ONE FIRM SUBMIT A BID ON THE 20TH OF JANUARY.
THAT SOLE BIDDER WAS FG CONSTRUCTION, LLC.
THEIR BID WAS 1.16 MILLION DOLLARS.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THEIR BID WAS WELL IN EXCESS OF THE TOWN'S BUDGET, AS WELL AS THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 700,000 DOLLARS.
CURRENTLY, THE CRA BUDGET HAS UNENCUMBERED BALANCE OF 760,000 DOLLARS AND SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AS WELL.
YOU'LL SEE THERE THAT IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS, WE WOULD NEED APPROXIMATELY 450,000 DOLLARS ADDITIONAL IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE PROJECT ITSELF, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
[NOISE] IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE DECORATIVE LIGHT POLES WERE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR A REGULAR PRESTRESSED CONCRETE POLE.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH PRESTRESSED CONCRETE POLES, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, THEY'RE JUST A SQUARE POLL.
THERE'S NOTHING REALLY SPECIAL ABOUT THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT DECORATIVE IN ANY WAY.
ESSENTIALLY ALSO, WE COULD EVALUATE THE REDESIGN AND SUBSEQUENT PERMANENT MODIFICATION IN ORDER TO TRY TO REDESIGN THE LIGHTING TO SEE IF WE CAN BRING THE COST DOWN.
THE WAY WE COULD DO THAT ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT, MOUNTING HEIGHT OF THE LIGHTS ITSELF THAT COULD CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF LIGHTS, KEEPING IN MIND THERE ARE RESIDENCIES IN THE AREAS SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO EXTREMELY HIGH WITH IT, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE MOUNTING HEIGHT OF THE LIGHTS TO CUT DOWN ON SOME OF THE LIGHTS ITSELF.
ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO SWITCH TO A PRESTRESS CONCRETE POLE.
HOWEVER, THE NATURE OF THIS LOCATION, REGULAR PRESTRESS CONCRETE POLE WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM SOME OF THE AESTHETICS OF THE AREA.
WITH ONLY ONE BID RECEIVED THAN THE AFOREMENTIONED DECORATIVE LIGHT POLE COST, ANOTHER OPTION, AS I HAD MENTIONED, WOULD BE TO REDESIGN THE LIGHTING AND GAIN A PERMANENT MODIFICATION IN THE FUTURE.
WE COULD ALSO REBID THE JOB AS WELL AFTER THAT.
I GUESS, BEFORE I MOVE ON, SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS WITH THE BID THEY CAME IN AS WELL, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW ITEMS SUCH AS THE MOBILIZATION COSTS, CLEARING AND GRUBBING, EMBANKMENT AND FILL, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY HOW MUCH SOIL WE BRING IN AND
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OFF THE SITE AND HOW MUCH SOIL IS ACTUALLY DUG UP AS OPPOSED [NOISE] TO SITE ITSELF.THOSE WERE LARGELY MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD IN THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, AND IN MANY CASES, EVEN WITH SOME OF THE ASPHALT COSTS, THEY WERE 3-4 TIMES WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE FOR THOSE COSTS.
SUBSEQUENTLY ANY REDESIGN WORK WOULD ULTIMATELY DELAY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT AS THE CRA COMMISSION IS LIKELY AWARE OF THE US 1 BRIDGE DETOUR IS PLANNED TO START AROUND MARCH 2023.
HOWEVER, THE ENGINEERING STAFF DOES NOT EXPECTED TO BE A LARGE AMOUNT OR IN SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ANY TRAFFIC IN THE AREA BECAUSE OF THE US 1 BRIDGE DETOUR.
CJ HAS COMMENTED ON OCCASIONS THAT ESSENTIALLY THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WHICH YOU WOULD SEE MOVING NORTH TOWARDS US 1 TO GO NORTH OUT OF JUPITER WOULD LIKELY BE DECREASE.
YOU MAY SEE SOMEWHAT OF A DECREASE IN THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT AREA AS WELL.
TO RECONSIDER ALTERNATIVES, THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS REEVALUATED THE INTERSECTION, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO CJ.
>> NOW, THE PURPOSE OF THIS INTERIM TRAFFIC CONTROL SOLUTION IS TO ALLEVIATE THE RESIDENTS COMING OFF FROM THE JUPITER BEACH ROAD OF MAKING THE LEFT TURN.
THE CURRENT AVERAGE WAIT TIME IS ABOUT 75 SECONDS, I MANAGED TO SHOW IN THE SECOND.
INDEED, ALTHOUGH THE OVERALL INTERSECTION PERFORMANCE IS OKAY BUT THE [INAUDIBLE].
AFTER CONVERSION TO THE ALL-WAY STOP CONTROL, BASED ON THE 2019 TRAFFIC COUNT, NOT ONLY THE OVERALL INTERSECTION PERFORMANCE IS ACCEPTABLE, BUT ALSO THE EVERY APPROACHES LEVEL SERVICE WAS BEING ACCEPTABLE AS WELL.
BUT ALL-WAY STOP CONTROL IS NO DEPENDENCY ON IT, IS NOT THE FUTURE PROOF, IS VERY SENSITIVE TO THE FUTURE INCREASES IN THE TRAFFIC.
I DID THE 10 PERCENT, 20 PERCENT, 30 PERCENT INCREASES AS A SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS.
THIS PERCENTAGE INCREASE THEY COVERED THE TEMPORARY A NATURAL FLUCTUATION OF THE TRAFFIC DEMAND.
THIS APPROACH AS WELL WAS THE 10 PERCENT MONITORS INCREASES.
THE OVERALL INTERSECTION AS WELL AS THE APPROACH OF DELAY APPEAR STILL ACCEPTABLE.
BUT AS THE TRAVELING INCREASED FURTHER, YOU CAN SEE THE PREDOMINANT TRAFFIC APPROACHES, WHICH IS A NORTHBOUND DELAY, THE INCREASE IS EXPONENTIALLY, AND UP TO 30 PERCENT IT WAS STILL LEVEL SERVICE UNACCEPTABLE.
NEXT PLEASE. THEREFORE, WE CAN [INAUDIBLE] PALM BEACH COUNTY TRAFFIC DIVISION TO COMPARE WITH THIS SIMPLE CONFIGURATIONS CHANGES IN ORDER TO CONVERT FROM THE EXISTING TWO WAY CONTROL TO THE ALL-WAY STOP CONTROL.
THIS IS THE HIGHLY OFFSET IN THE SECTION.
SO IT DOES HAVE COMPLICATIONS IN TERMS OF THE CONVERTING TO THE ALL-WAY STOP CONTROL.
IN ORDER TO REDUCE THAT EFFECT OF THE OFFSET, WE PROPOSE FIRST TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE ALL-WAY APPROACHES.
USE THE FLEXIBLE CURVE TO TIGHTEN UP THE TURNING RADIUS.
BY DOING SO, THERE'S TWO ADVANTAGE.
NOT ONLY WE CAN NOW SHORTEN THE CROSSWALK DISTANCE A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALSO BRING THE STOP LINE ON THE SOUTH APPROACHING FOR OURSELVES TO BE CLOSER TO THE NORTH SPAN APPROACHING STOP LINE, TO REDUCE THAT EFFECT OF THE OFFSET.
ALSO, TO REDUCE THE COMPLICATION OF
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THE THREE LANES OPERATIONS FOR THE STOP CONTROL APPROACHES, WE PROPOSE TO ELIMINATE THE LEFT-HAND LANE OF THE NORTH-SPAN APPROACHES.BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC GOING TO THE MOBILE HOME PARK IS RELATIVELY MUCH LESS, SO BY COMBINING LEFT TURN WITH THIS ROUTE ON THE NORTHBOUND ROUTE DID NOT IMPOSE THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE DELAY.
IT'S CONSIDERED A VERY COST-EFFECTIVE CONVERSIONS.
BY DOING SO, WE CAN ALSO PINCH THE STOP SIGN ON BOTH SIDES ON NORTH APPROACH, LEFT SIDE VERSUS RIGHT SIDE TO INCREASE THE COMPLIANCE RATE FOR THE DRIVER TO STOP.
ON THE WEST APPROACH OF WHICH IS THE SOUTH ENTRANCE AND ACCESS OF THE MOBILE HOME PARK, BECAUSE OF THE CORNER CUT SITUATION, WHERE WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH THE HOA OF THE MOBILE HOME PARK TO CONSTANTLY TRIM THE VEGETATION TO PROVIDE THE AMBER SIDE DISTANCE ON THE CORNER CUT.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE COMBINING THE THREE APPROACH INTO TWO BY SHORTENING THE LEFT TURN LENGTH INTO THE MOBILE PARK, ABOUT 1/3 OF THE EXISTING DISTANCE.
WE'RE STILL ABLE TO PRESERVE THE DRIVEWAY AS PARITY TO THE PIT STOP.
THE REMAINING DISTANCE FOR THE LEFT-HAND LANE IS STILL AMPLE AS LONG AS THE 240 FEET THAT MEET THE COUNTY'S ROADWAY DESIGN STANDARD.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH BOTH PALM BEACH COUNTY TRAFFIC AND THE ROADWAY PRODUCTION DIVISIONS.
THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT AND AS LONG WE GET THE COUNCIL'S COOPERATION WE CAN QUICKLY GO AHEAD.
PULL RIGHT AWAY A PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY AND PROCEED WITH THE WORK.
>> AS FAR AS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT AN ALL-WAY STOP-CONTROL CONDITION WHICH IS A LOW COST INTERIM TRAFFIC OPERATION SOLUTION, AS WELL AS, WE COULD LOOK TO REDESIGN THE LIGHTING TO SEE IF THAT COULD GIVE US A FURTHER COST REDUCTION, AS WELL AS TAKING THE PLANS AND HOLDING THEM ON THE SHELF ONCE THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE, MONITOR THE TRAFFIC AS WELL AS THE ACCIDENT DATA THROUGH THE INTERSECTION AND WHEN THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES INCREASE AND THEY BECOME MORE OF AN ISSUE THAT WE COULD FOLLOW UP AND RESUBMIT THE PLANS WITH THE COUNTY FOR PERMITTING AND ACTUALLY REBID THE PROJECT AND IMPLEMENT THE ROUNDABOUT AT A LATER TIME.
ALTERNATIVELY, IF THE CRA COMMISSION DECIDES THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AND PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THE COUNCIL AGENDUM FOR TONIGHT WHICH WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IN ORDER TO AWARD THE PROJECT.
I FORGOT TO MENTION WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING, ALSO GOING BACK AND REDESIGNING THE PROJECT WOULD GIVE A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR SOME OF THE COST AND NOT ONLY WOULD IT SEE WHAT THE CURRENT MARKET IS, BUT IT MAY GIVE THE MARKET THE ABILITY TO GET INTO A TIME WHERE IT'S A LITTLE MORE NORMALIZED AT THE CURRENT MOMENT.
ANY BIDS OR ANY PRICES ARE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE PRIOR TO THE CURRENT MOMENT.
WITH THAT, IF THE CRA COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FIRST?
>> SURE. IN YOUR OPINION, WHY DO YOU THINK ONLY ONE FIRM SUBMITTED A BID?
>> CURRENTLY, AND WE'VE TALKED TO A FEW BIDDERS ON OTHER JOBS AS WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON IN THE MARKET CURRENTLY.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT A FIRM SEES THAT MIGHT BE NOT DESIRABLE, OR THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK GOING ON, THEY PASS ON THE BID ITSELF.
IN THIS SITUATION, IT JUST MIGHT BE THE AMOUNT OF VOLUME OF WORK THAT'S TAKING PLACE.
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CONTRACTORS ARE BEING ABLE TO CHOOSE WHICHEVER JOB THEY WANT TO DO.AS I HEARD IT SAID TODAY, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT A TRUE STATEMENT, THIS IS A FAIRLY SMALL JOB, BUT IF THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO WORK ON ANOTHER PROJECT, THAT MAY BE WHY WE ONLY HAD ONE BIDDER WITH INTEREST IN THE PROJECT.
>> THERE'S, THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE.
BECAUSE THEY EARLIER NEEDED OR WANTED TO THROW A HIGH NUMBER, IF THEIR CUSTOMER BITES, THEY GRAB IT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IN SOME CASES, WE DO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
WE DO HAVE IT WHERE CONTRACTORS WILL SUBMIT A HIGHER BID AND IN SOME CASES IN THIS SITUATION, THEY ARE THE LOW BIDDER.
IN OTHER SITUATIONS, YOU MIGHT SEE WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAD OTHER BIDDERS THAT SUBMITTED AS WELL.
BUT IN THIS SITUATION TO ME, IT SEEMS AS IF THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BID AND IT HAPPENED TO BE THE SOLE BID.
>< FOR OVER $400,000, THIS IS LOTS OF BITE ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
>> IN YOUR OPINION, IF WE DID WAIT, GOT A LOWER BID AND THE TIMING WAS CORRECT THAT YOU DON'T THINK WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT WITH THE ROUTE 1 RECONSTRUCTION, ANY IMPACTS WITH THAT IN OVERLAP?
>> ESSENTIALLY, THE OVERLAP ITSELF, YOU WOULD BE HAVING TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE INTERSECTION ITSELF IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD DURING THAT OVERLAP.
BUT THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS WHICH ARE GOING TO BE GOING NORTH THROUGH THE INTERSECTION WOULD BE GREATLY DIMINISHED BECAUSE VEHICLES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TRAVEL NORTH ON US 1 AS IT WOULD LIKE FOR.
>> THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN WITH THIS?
>> ONE QUESTION. HYPOTHETICALLY, IF WE WERE TO REBID THIS, WHAT WOULD THAT TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT?
>> FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT, BECAUSE IT'S IN EXCESS OF, I BELIEVE, $200,000, WE WOULD HAVE TO A 30-DAY PERIOD, SO IT WOULD NOT TAKE STAFF A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO TAKE IT, REPACKAGE IT, AND PUT IT BACK OUT TO BID BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
ANY ITEMS THAT WERE ISSUED VIA ADDENDUM, WE WOULD LIKELY INCLUDE THAT INTO A REVISED BID DOCUMENT ITSELF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO REVISIT SOME OF THOSE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS.
BUT WE COULD LIKELY REISSUE AS SOON AS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER THIS WEEK, AND THEN IT WOULD BE ANOTHER 30 DAYS AFTER THAT TIME IN ORDER TO GET NEW BIDS.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF WE WENT WITH THE ALL-WAY STOP-CONTROL, HOW LONG DO YOU ENVISION THAT TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE WE RAN INTO DIFFICULTIES WITH THE TRAFFIC INCREASES WHERE IT'S NO LONGER AN EFFECTIVE OPTION?
>> SINCE THE INCREASES OF THE [INAUDIBLE] TRAFFIC IN NORTH AND SOUTH, ON THIS INTERSECTION WILL NOT BE ANTICIPATED TO INCREASES.
BASED ON THE HISTORY THE PAST FEW YEARS, THE TRAFFIC WAS OBSERVED QUITE STABLE.
DURING THE US 1 BRIDGES CONSTRUCTION TIME PERIOD, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THE SITUATION WILL BE KEPT CONTROL IF WE CONVERT IT TO THE ALL-WAY STOP-CONTROL.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC INCREASES IN THE FUTURE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HIGHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE INLET DISTRICT AREA?
>> ALSO, THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC INCREASES AS WELL.
>> BACKGROUND TRAFFIC. BACKGROUND, BECAUSE OF POPULATION INCREASE AND SO FORTH.
>> THOSE NEWER TOWNHOUSES BEING BUILT ARE NOT OCCUPIED YET, CORRECT? UP IN THE VILLAGE AREA?
>> IN DOING THE TRAFFIC PROJECTION, WE ALWAYS TRY TO PROJECT THOSE IN.
THAT IS ABOUT 1/2 PERCENT OF THE INCREASES ON THE REGION.
>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, BUT FIRST, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> NO. REFRESH MY MEMORY, DID PALM BEACH COUNTY PROVIDE ANY PROJECT FUNDING CONTRIBUTIONS? I THOUGHT, FOR DRAINAGE OR SOMETHING WE SHOULD PUT IN THE PROJECT?
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>> MIXING THAT UP IN ANOTHER PROJECT?
>> YES. GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE TRAFFIC DIVISION ON THAT.
SEEING SOME OF THE APPROACH IS YOURS, AND SOME WAS OURS, AND SO SHOULD BE 1/3, 2/3 THE SPLIT, THEY DON'T AGREE WITH.
HOW ABOUT 1/2 AND 1/2? THEY DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
>> THEY DIDN'T AGREE TO ANY CONTRIBUTION?
>>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD, I UNDERSTAND THOUGH THAT THEY IMPOSED EXTRA REQUIREMENTS WHICH IS WHY STAFF THOUGHT THAT THEY SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING. IS THAT NOT CORRECT?
>> SORRY. COULD YOU REPEAT AGAIN?
>> IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, BACK WHEN WE WERE DOING THE DESIGN, THAT PALM BEACH COUNTY IMPOSED EXTRA REQUIREMENTS ON US THAT ACTUALLY ADDED SCOPE TO ADDED COST.
THAT'S THE COST YOU WERE TRYING TO GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR.
>> ACTUALLY, THE ONLY SCOPE OF WORK WE EXTENDED IS WHEN WE TRY TO ACQUIRE THE U-TURN LANE THROUGH THE DOWNSTREAM I'M MAKING A U-TURN BACK FOR THE MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENCE.
INSTEAD OF MAKING THE DIRECT MUCH ONTO THE RUNG THE BELL, AND DUE TO THE CONFIGURATION RESTRICTIONS THAT MAKING THAT MOVEMENT IS QUITE DIFFICULT.
INSTEAD WE PROPOSE TO PROVIDE THAT DOWNSTREAM U-TURN FOR THE RESIDENT TO MAKE THE U-TURN BACK.
THAT WAS ONLY EXTENDED SCOPE OF WORK AT THAT TIME.
BUT LATER ON, WE [NOISE] INTIMATE THAT ONLY REQUIREMENT.
THEY NO LONGER REMAIN AS TO STRICTLY COMPLY WITH THEIR REAL WAY OF PRODUCTION THAT COMES [NOISE] STANDARD AND THEY ALLOW US TO MAKING THE PLEASE JUST SHORTEN THE CROWS TO THE FIRST DRIVEWAY FOR THEM TO MAKE THAT U-TURN RIGHT THERE.
[NOISE] ACTUALLY, THE EXTENDED SCOPE WORK WAS ACTUALLY ELIMINATED DUE TO THAT.
>> OKAY, WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE COST FOR THE HALLWAY STOP CONTROL?
>> IT WOULD BE MINIMAL AT BEST.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT IT WOULD BE MUCH [NOISE] MORE THAN A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS.
>> THE BIG VALIDITY STATUS WHICH CAME BACK ON THE 20TH.
IS IT STILL VALID OR THE ONE BIT IS STILL VALID?
>> CJ, I HAPPEN TO HAVE THE [NOISE] PRESENTATION [NOISE] FROM THE CRA MEETING IN FEBRUARY OF 2020.
WITH THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US, AND WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO US TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT TYPE OF INTERSECTION CONTROL WE WANTED.
[NOISE] THE ROUNDABOUT WAS THE OPTION.
WE LOOKED AT TRAFFICS, THEY'D KNOW ROUNDABOUT AND THE ROUNDABOUT WAS THE ONE THAT LONG-TERM ENDED UP IN LEVEL OF SERVICE B AND IT WAS THE SAFEST.
SO YOU'RE CONFIRMING THAT, YOU'RE NODDING YOUR HEAD JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU AGREE TO THAT?
>> YES. THERE ARE CIVIL CRITERIA AT THAT TIME WE INJECT INTO THE ITERATION OF THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE STARTING FROM THE TRAVEL OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY AROUND THE LAW IS BETTER THAN THE SYNCHRONIZATION.
SAFE IS ALWAYS THE ROUNDABOUT HOW TO PERFORM THE INTERSECTIONS, THE SYNCHRONIZING INTERSECTIONS, AND THE STATICS [NOISE] FABRICS, SINCE THE COUNTY DOES NOT ALLOW US TO USE THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] TYPE OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
THE HUGE MASS DOME STRUCTURE OR LOOSE INTRUSIVE, IT DOESN'T FIT INTO THAT AMBIENCE.
[NOISE] THE A1A SPECIALIST CONSIDER OUT SOME OF THE DESTINATIONS.
THE NOISE IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY NEARBY AND ALSO THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY, MAYBE IN ALSO INCOME FREAKED.
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WE BUILT A PROPOSED OF BOD FOUNDATIONS TOO AND DURING THE HURRICANE, AS YOU KNOW, IF WE RUN INTO THE POWER ISSUE THEN WRONG ABOUT IS STILL CAN BE IN OPERATIONS.>> YOU MADE A COMMENT ON CARTOON NETWORK?
>> NO. IT'S FOR THE NEXT READING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> SORRY, CGMA, ASK A QUESTION.
THIS INTERSECTION IS AN ODD SHAPE.
IT'S LONGER THAN USUAL, AND IT'S RIGHT TO POINT OUT THE TRIMMING OF VEGETATION TO IMPROVE THE LINE OF SIGHT.
OPERATIONALLY, I JUST WONDER HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO PROPERLY AS A DRIVER, PROCESS EACH OF THE VARIOUS STOPS TO DETERMINE THE TIMING WITH WHICH YOU GO.
WITH THE MEDIAN AS WELL WITH THE JUPITER BEACH ROAD.
I JUST WORRY ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THAT INTERSECTION, THE LINES OF SIGHT, AND THE ABILITY TO PROCESS WHERE YOU ARE IN LINE AND WHEN YOU CAN GO.
IS THERE ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME IN PROCESSING THAT?
>> SURE. THAT'S THE OTHER GENTLEMEN QUESTIONS ESPECIALLY COMES TO THE OFFSET INTERSECTION LIKE THIS.
NEVER SAY NO TO REDUCE THAT EFFECT OFF THE OFFSET.
WE HAVE PROPOSED TO BRING THAT THE STOP LYING CLOSER TOGETHER TO REDUCE THAT BUT INTENSE OF THE INFORMATION PROCESS WHEN WE COMES TO THE FOREST STARBUCK THIS, NOTICE THAT THE NORTHBOUND THAT THEY STOP LINE HAS SEPARATED.
NOTICE THAT? THAT DATA OFFSET IS PROVIDED FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] PANEL APPROACH, THE DRIVER TO SEE, INCLUDING THE CYCLIST UNDER THE BIKE LANE IN-BETWEEN RIGHT TURN LANE AND THE ASU AND LEFT TURN LANE FOR THE CYCLIST CAN POTENTIALLY EXPOSE THEMSELVES FOR THE WESTBOUND DRIVER TO SEE.
BETWEEN THE WESTBOUND AND EASTBOUND, AT LEAST IN SECTION A MEASURE THAT DISTANCE IS ABOUT 150 FEET.
IT'S STILL WITHIN THE ACCEPTABLE RANGE FOR THE OFFSET INTERSECTIONS.
WE'RE NOT IMPOSE THE TOO MUCH HARDSHIP BECAUSE OF THE FAULT DESCENDS ARE HARD TO JUDGE WHO'S COME FIRST AND THE WHO WOULD BE DETERMINED TO GO FIRST.
SO THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL CONSTANTLY COMMUNICATE WITH THE HOA, THE RESIDENT TO TRIM THE TREE, TO PROVIDE [INAUDIBLE] THE SATELLITE BETWEEN THE EAST BOUND AND THE SOUTH BOUND APPROACHES.
AND UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THE PROVIDED A SILENT IS RESTRICTED.
BUT IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN MENU IS ACTUALLY PERMITTED THE TOP-LINE CONTROL THE DRIVER TO DO THE TWO-STAGE APPROACH, MEANING THEY COME TO THE STOPLIGHT AND STOP, BUT THEY CREEPING AND CREEPING TOWARDS THE SIDEWALK AND THEN USE THE SECOND POSITION TO IS POSITIVE THEMSELVES.
AND ONCE THEY GET TO THE SECOND POSITION, THERE'S NO A SILENT ISSUE ANYMORE.
SO STILL A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED FOR THE EAST MODEL APPROACH COMING OFF FROM THE MOBILE HOME PARK, BUT IT SHOULD BE, ACCEPTABLE.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THOMAS.
IN TERMS OF BIDDING, WE'RE SEEING FEWER BIDDERS GENERALLY ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS OVER TIME.
IS THERE A SEASON FOR CONSTRUCTION, A SEASON WHERE THINGS ARE BUSIER IN TERMS OF THIS TYPE OF WORK?
>> FOR THIS WORK, WE GENERALLY DON'T HAVE A SEASON.
IF YOU LOOK AT OVERALL LARGER ASPHALT JOBS WE IN ENGINEERING FOR THE TOWN, WE TRIED TO BUILD THOSE OUT TOWARDS THE WINTER TIME.
BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, I'M NOT AWARE OF A SEASON WHERE THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A BUSIER TIME.
THE SUMMERTIME ITSELF, A LOT OF TIMES DOES LEAD TO A LITTLE MORE DELAY AS WELL BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THE WEATHER TO DEAL WITH.
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HOWEVER, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT YEAR-ROUND THERE'S SPECIFIC SEASON FOR THIS WORK.>> YES. I ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS I WANTED TO KNOW.
>> NO OTHER QUESTIONS DURING THE COUNCIL FOR COMMISSION FOR CONVENTION.
JUST LIKE TO KICK THIS ONE OFF, UNDERSTAND.
I THINK TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE EVALUATED THE OPTIONS WE HAD, WE PICKED THE RIGHT OPTION.
WE DID IT FOR SAFETY AND IT HAD THE BEST OVER THE SERVICE FOR A LONG TERM.
I'M GRATEFUL THAT STAFF IS ALWAYS FARMING MINDFUL ABOUT COST.
I'M GOING TO BE PUSHING GENERALLY IT'S WHY, JUST WANTED TO COME BACK.
WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING THAT WE'LL DO IN A LONG-TERM SOLUTION AND BEING DONE WITH IT.
NOW THAT SAID, I WANT TO BE COST-EFFECTIVE ABOUT IT.
SO I'M NOT PERSONALLY INTERESTED IN AND ALWAYS STOP CONTROL AND MORE.
HOW DO WE GET DONE WHAT WE WANTED MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY THAT PERSONALLY.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT ON. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> SURE. I'LL START. I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
MY CONCERN THAT ALWAYS STOP IS THAT I FIND IT TOO CONFUSING.
I MEAN, I CAN JUST SEE TOO MANY CONFLICTS WITH DRIVERS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S FIRST AND THEN YOU HAVE PEDESTRIANS WALKING UP THE STREET.
YOU HAVE CYCLISTS, IT'S VERY HEAVY AREA OF BICYCLES AND CYCLISTS AND THEN CARS PULLING OUT, TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOING TO GO FIRST.
SO FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S APPEALING TO GET A SOLUTION IN THERE QUICKLY, THAT IS NOT AS EXPENSIVE.
ALREADY CONCERNED IN THE LONG RUN, IT'S REALLY GOING TO END UP CAUSING MORE ISSUES THAT IT SOLVES.
>> I AGREE. I MEAN, THAT INTERSECTION HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
UNLESS IT UNDERTAKES A DRASTIC CHANGE I JUST SEE A LOT OF CONFUSION COMING DOWN FROM PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY I THINK A LOT PEOPLE IN THE AREA OF THAT INTERSECTION ARE SEASONAL, SO WHEN THEY COME BACK DOWN IT'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE FOR THEM AND THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND IT.
I THINK IT WOULD CREATE MORE CONFLICT IF WE DID AN ALL-WAY STOP CONTROL.
NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE COST INCREASE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN OPTION TO OFFER A REBID AND SEE WHAT WE COME BACK WITH A SUNSET DATE OF A MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF ANYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED.
>> THIS IS AN ODD ONE, I'D LIKE TO TRY TO GET TO SOME CLOSURE FOR THE CRA, BUT IT IS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR TONIGHT IN THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE WOULD GIVE DIRECTION, I BELIEVE.
>> ISN'T THAT CORRECT, COMMISSIONER ATTORNEY?
>> BUT WE CAN COME OUT OF THIS MEETING WITH AN INCLINATION.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THIS IS IN THE COMMENTS, JUST GENERAL SUPPORT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, AND THEN IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS ON WHETHER ACCEPT WHAT WE HAVE OR REBID IT, I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS OR DEFER.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF WAITING TO REBID THE PROJECT BECAUSE I THINK ENGINEERING HAS SUGGESTED THAT THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THEY COULD MAKE TO MAKE IT LESS EXPENSIVE, AND THEN PERHAPS OVER TIME AS THINGS IMPROVE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE COST DOWN.
MAYBE WE CAN AVOID SOME EXTRA CONFLICT WITH THE US 1 BRIDGE, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF WAITING TO REBID IT.
>> AM I HEARING FROM COMMISSIONER MAIN SCHNEIDER, THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO JUST KEEP THE INTERSECTION THE SAME AS IS UNTIL WE REBID AND TRY TO GET A LOWER NUMBER?
>> YEAH, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE ALL-WAY STOP.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PROJECT COULD BE REBID RATHER QUICKLY.
SEE IF WE GET SOME IMPROVEMENT.
I MEAN FOR ME, THE BOTTOM LINE IS I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE ALL-WAY STOP.
I THINK IT'S TOO CONFUSING, SO I CAN BE FLEXIBLE ON HOW WE GO FORWARD, BUT I REALLY DON'T THINK THE INTERIM SOLUTION IS A GOOD SOLUTION.
>> I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE ALL-WAY STOP EITHER.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT WITH LINE OF SIGHT, AND JUST THINKING ABOUT IT MYSELF AS I DRIVE THROUGH IT, HOW I WOULD SORT THAT.
I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE THE LIGHTING, I THINK THE AESTHETIC COUNTS AND I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A CHANGE IN THE TYPE OF LIGHTING, WHERE IT GOES, SO I BELIEVE THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT PROJECT.
BUT I WONDER IF THE RIGHT PROJECT AT THE WRONG TIME CAN BE THE WRONG THING.
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THERE ARE OTHER BIDS AND THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS.I WAS LOOKING AT THE CONSENT AGENDA OF ANOTHER MEETING LATER TONIGHT WHERE THERE ARE COST INCREASES EVERYWHERE AND THE COSTS MAY CONTINUE TO INCREASE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SEE ANY SIGN OF THAT ABIDING.
THE QUESTION FOR ME IS REALLY, IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT NOW? ARE WE THINKING THAT WE CAN GET BIDDERS, OTHERS IN THE FUTURE TO BID ON THIS PROGRAM? THERE WERE SIX THAT CAME TO THE PRE-BID CONFERENCE, ONLY ONE CAME BACK.
COSTS, IT WAS SO FAR ABOVE THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, SO FAR THAT PERHAPS THERE'S A WAY TO FIND A BETTER VALUE FOR RESIDENTS.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE RIGHT PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE THIS PROJECT TO GO FORWARD.
THE QUESTION I'VE STRUGGLED WITH IS, DO WE EAT THIS COST OR DO WE REBID IT? GIVEN THE TIMING OF THE REBID AND [NOISE] SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
IT SEEMS THAT IT COULD COME TOGETHER FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT I ALSO WORRY ABOUT THE BRIDGE.
THAT CHANGES THINGS AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL IMPACT TRAFFIC.
I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS.
I AM TENDING TOWARDS REBIDDING.
I UNDERSTAND THE TIMING IS SENSITIVE AS WELL WITH THAT BRIDGE PROJECT.
>> ONE MORE COMMENT AND I'M GOING TO USE MY DISCRETION TO MOVE IT ALONG TO THE COUNCIL MEETING.
>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SAID UP HERE, ESPECIALLY WITH COMMISSIONER SUNDSTROM.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO TAKE IT ON THE CHIN TO REDUCE COSTS WITH A PROJECT THAT WE APPROVE TO SATISFY A LONE BIDDER THAT'S BASICALLY GIVEN US A GOUGING PRICE.
I WOULD LIKE TO PROBABLY KEEP THE INTERSECTION AS IT IS TEMPORARILY, PUT IT OUT TO REBID, TRY TO GET AT LEAST TWO MAYBE THREE, WE USUALLY GET THREE OR FOUR BIDS ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
ECONOMIC TIMES, THEY COULD CHANGE VERY QUICKLY AND THESE COMPANIES WILL BE WANTING SOME WORK SOON BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE NATIONAL DATA AND INFLATION AND RECESSION LOOMING.
I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT TO PUT IT BACK OUT.
WAIT A FEW WEEKS, MAYBE PUT OUT A NEW BID AND GO FROM THERE.
THE EXTRA 400,000, I JUST CAN'T SWALLOW TONIGHT.
>> OKAY, CLOSING DISCUSSION, ON TO REPORTS, COMMISSIONER ATTORNEY?
>> MAYOR, [OVERLAPPING] I THINK WE HAD A CONSENT ITEM THAT WE NEEDED TO APPROVE.
>> I'M SORRY, DID WE? YEAH, WE DID, I APOLOGIZE.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
MOVING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU.>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
>> MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, 5,0. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR?
>> DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS?
[COMMISSIONER’S COMMENTS]
>> I DO. THE CRA IS FOUNDED ON A PLAN THAT WAS CREATED OVER 20 YEARS AGO.
OVER TIME, I KNOW THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THE PLAN THAT WAS IN PLACE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE CRA PLAN GOING FORWARD AND WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO DO.
THE CRA WILL NOT SUNSET FOR MANY YEARS SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE GO FROM HERE ON THAT IN A WORKSHOP, AND THEN THROUGH THAT WORKSHOP PERHAPS WE CAN END UP WITH DIRECTION THAT WE CAN GIVE TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR US ON POSSIBLE APPROACHES.
>> YES, SOUNDS GOOD. I MEAN, WE MAY BE ABLE TO KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE AND MOVE THE COMMITTEE WITH THAT ROUND-TABLE WORKSHOP OR WHATEVER.
BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN REQUESTING ANYWAYS, MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PROVIDE WHAT THEY COULD DO IN THAT AREA AS FAR AS CRA STAFF GOES.
>> I THINK THIS WOULD BE A CRA WORKSHOP, SO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS FOR THAT?
>> ANYTHING ELSE? SEEING NONE, I ADJOURN THE MEETING.
THANK YOU. [NOISE]
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